Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

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1st for Reinhardt

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GARROSH IS NEXT

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>no matter what character I play even if it's some immobile fuck like KT I always manage to have half the deaths and more kills than my teammates playing highly mobile and hard to kill characters like Zeratul and D.va

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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

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>Nazeebo takes Vile Infection even though he only has like 90 stacks, or when it is blatantly obvious that he will not be able to complete the quest

What goes through their minds when they do this? Just swallow your pride, cut your losses, and take Humongoid you shitter.

a reddit portrait should be a reward for "pull party"

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>>181322812
Wait why would you be mad at leaks in a moba?

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>>181322938
>why would reddit make sense guys?

Question about Stukov
Can people walk through your Massive Shove?
You can still be interrupted from Massive Shove right? Or will the arm just keep going?
Can people hit the arm while its shoving?

>>181322938
>responding to copypasta that's been posted for months

>>181322912
>Humongoid you shitter
I always do unless it is something like Spider where I can stack easily.

I also use it to backdoor forts

How can Xul be bad?
It appears he has a skill that deals 50% hero health as damage in an area.

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>>181323237
>>181322912
>people so shit they cant get quest completed right on 20 lvl
>they die
>they go back at all
>they dont farm 2 lanes at ones
>they dont throw spider or zombies at passing lane while rotation obj
as a nazeebo being my 2d highest played hero i just cant watch noobs

>>181323589
it also appears that the damage is so slow you end up wiping his team before it ticks halfway through.

>>181323589
>melee
>no movement abilities
>no escapes
and last and most important
>fucking necromancer
>they made his skeletons capped and weak as a joke

>>181321538
poor little green boy

So what does everyone think will be the main build for stukov?

My guess
1 - none seem to really stand out
4- Vigorous Reuptake
7- Targeted Excision
10- Flailing Swipe
13- Virulent Reaction
16- Pox Populi
20- could be either Controlled Chaos or Bio-Explosion Switch

>>181324583
Although now that I think about it with targeted excision it'd probably be best to get poppin pustules at level 1.

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Forced 50 doesn't e...

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>go to unranked draft to learn to draft from watching others
>5 games in a row end up as the person banning
>team suggest terrible bans

>>181324921
...xist.

>>181321046
That gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

>Solo support
Blizzard?!?!?!

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>>181326430
Didnt you know Stukov is a compulsive masturbator?
Finally you can run and gun on your own with no healslutting on the sude.

>>181325778
>always ban new hero
>ban anub if you dont 1st pick him
here you go my man

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>>181325778
>every time i join unranked i say Nova solo mid

>>181325778
Just don't be a shitter.

SOPPING

https://cs.sankakucomplex.com/data/4b/82/4b82a2e3dd38a3ebcec2969c6df3f404.webm?6148841

Since this was where I was adviced about MxM.

Any MxM players? >>181328008

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>>181327993
That...orifice looks like a pocket pussy made out of play-dough.

>>181328049
Did you seriously make a new /vg/ thread about that...why arent you in /v/

>>181328049
>Since this was where I was adviced about MxM.
obvious shilling detected

>>181328242
There's no moba general.

And of course, the game is better than all other MOBAs in history, so it does deserve it's own thread. The game might grow.

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>>181328660
>the best
Not really, this is the best MOBA kind of game on the market atm.

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>>181328660
then go post in your best moba in history dead thread

>>181328801
>implying it wont be very active if you merge it with Battleborn general

>>181328787
>Immortan Joe Roadhog
>Random Sephiroth looking guy

Gets me everytime

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>>181328951
You aint seen nothin yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ydRS0cP34s

Yeah i know its offtopic but its just too glorious not to laugh at it

>Garrosh's trait is Deep Wounds, additional dot applied by abilities that increases in damage the more the wounded target moves (in terms of distance) while applied.

There fixed the mobility creep.

>>181329184
>not adding that talent for hamstring ability

>>181329137
>Literally a storm trooper

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>still no draenei hero

>>181329184
just add bloodcyka
rupture on tracer would be godly

>>181329814
Just finished losing my 3rd triple spec match in a row, Blizz matchmaking is wonderful today.

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felt kind of sorry for the enemy team after seeing malfs stats

>start placements
>first teammate picks Nova
>second picks zera
>third picks Leoric
>in game Nova picks tripple tap
>Leoric picks march
Woah... so this is the power of gold league...

>>181330607
What's it like to be that much of a TRAITOR?

Maybe I die
Maybe you die too

>>181330607
I hope during draft you were saying "plz not nova" or suggesting builds that might synergize such as "entomb + precision"

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>>181330707
>traitor
I will bow to no king who picks March

>>181330907
No I was picking Johanna and arguing against my 5th teammate that he should not pick Valeera

>>181330723
Who says that? Naz?

Anyone else put off by heroes marked as "Easy" to play? I really enjoy playing Jaina, but I feel people will think Im some shitter who can only play easy heroes if I pick her.

>>181329462

Also Cyborg-Sepiroth next to him

>>181331154
Jaina being easy is a meme, she's basically not picked every in competitive because she actually requires a comp to work around her to setup for her massive burst damage

And the fact she has no "press button to not die" escape

>>181331338
She has iceblock, but it comes super late and it's more of a 'press button to die a few seconds later'

>>181331071
Zuljin.

Stukov looks fun

>>181332514
Agreed. I feel at worse he'll be like Hammer or Gaz where he might not be top meta but he will be a blast to play

>>181322938
Mercy when?

>>181333089
Never? She be to much like Morals.

>>181331338
That lack of not die is a big deal. You need escape tactics more so if you plan to push forts

>>181333201
they already showed with D.Va that they're perfectly fine making up shit to include a hero

>>181333398
But D.va is still D.va at her core. Shoot, eject, defense matrix, etc.

Mercy is literally Morales with some tweaks. Either she's an inferior single target sustain healer or a better one, there's no two ways around it because they can't add Mercy without her beam.

>>181333547
Aso what would her ult even be, Auriel already has the res one

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>>181321046
what is wrong with this shitty game. wait 2 minutes every time and this

>>181333796
People with shitty connection tryin to play, it's probably the same person requeueing trying to ruin other people's game

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Leon when?

>>181333713
She resses whole team instead.
They haven't had an issue with doing OP shit like that, so I don't know why they wouldn't do it with her.

>>181333713
I WANT MY WAIFU REEEEEEEEE

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>>181334327
At least they should remake that chessboard map,it looks fun.

>>181334339
The fact that Auriel's ress still only brings back one guy, after 5 seconds, with 50% HP should show you just how afraid they are of that mechanic in their game.

>>181334448
>MEDIVH CHEATS

>>181334517
The death timers in hots are ten times as long as the death timers in ow, so that isn't too surprising

>>181334517
The fact that they gave all their overwatch characeters infinite escapes proves they aren't afraid of making mercy ress whole team.

>>181334939
Being able to get away =/= removing penalty for dying for literally your whole team

eat shit nigger

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>>181334758
>early TBC
>be a rogue
>sneak to chess alone
>solo it 3 weeks in a row
>guild implodes because "Horde guilds are hacking our progress and loot and we got spies in our ranks"

>>181335252
Like a true funking rogue

>>181330485
>falstad

Malf seem to do more tho, u can't heal dead heroes

since 2.0 I destroyed 1 computer monitor, 3 keyboards, like 5 or 6 mugs and a printer because of the infuriating ranked matchmaking, I think I'm done with this game

>>181335750
Was thinking the same thing. Not counting the healer they have 25 deaths and half the siege damage output of the enemy team. My money is they teamfight under lvl all game.

>>181336051
I think the issue is rank isn't based on personal play. You could have MVP and play gold lvl 24/7 but if your team refuses to win, you are stuck at Bronze 5 for life.

Help a newfriend out. I'm studying the heroes and battlegrounds to better understand the game.

When do I go for mercenary camps? And with what chars?

>>181336051
>>181336228
I think the issue lies more with anon and not the game

>>181336051
To think, all you needed to buy was one gun and you could have saved yourself from having to buy all that other stuff

>>181336280
alt f4 and spare yourself the headache thb

>>181336318
yes it's totally my fault when half of my matches are with level 160 players who throw the game when their insta-prepick is banned/picked or who firstpick nova

>>181336327
guns are expensive and so is the license

>>181336280
You go for camps after:
A successful Push on a fort where you beech the gates (so get the ones in that fort)
After a obj resolves (so after the curse lifted on Hollows)
When enemy team is wiped or preoccupied

>>181331154
Ignore that. Valla is also labled but isn't that easy to play well.

>>181336469
No but it is your fault that you broke all that stuff, hinting at some issues you need to take care off.

What rank are you in anyway?

>>181336528
I was placed in silver 1, climbed to plat 3 and now am back down to gold 4

>>181336736
So why be mad about it? Just keep playing, the whole point of climbing is to climb, naturally you'll drop but keep playing and you'll go back up. If you take every loss to the nutbag you'll end up offing yourself from rage for literally no reason.

>>181336495

At what level though? With warriors I'm guessing. Assassins? Specialists? Supports probably not.

>>181336117
Right? If I compare comps the other shouldnt be even fighting 5v5 that comp is so shit. Maybe a good gravo bomb wombo?

>>181336895
On cursed hallow, always get the seige camp closest to your base at 2 minutes. It puts a 50% chance to get value out of it when your team goes for the objective at aroudn 2:45-3:00

Other than that, just take them before the objective generally speaking. Heroes that are good at taking camps are generally solo laners like Malthael, Thrall, Sonya, Gazlowe, Probius, Rexxar, Illidan, heroes with Bribe, etc. Use your better judgment.

>>181336895
It really depends on the character.

>>181336878
yeah it's so nice to lose literally all my progress in a single day because the game matches me with 3-4 people who are so far bellow my level that there is nothing I can do from minute 3 because the enemy team is already 2 levels ahead, it's so fun to always end up placed at least 2 leagues bellow where I should be because my QM MMR is garbage and seeds me with absolute losers so I end up winning 1-2 placement matches at best.
I'm consistently teamed with people who throw games because I tell them that their pre-pick is a bad choice on map/against the enemy comp.

>>181337102
You are the problem. Doesn't matter how good you think you play if you're a flaming rager in games and cause yourself and others to go off the rocker because you want things your way.

>>181337202
yeah telling someone to not pick a hero into a counter team politely is totally being a flaming rager

you're the cancer of this game

hey i quit when genji was released why are muradin, thrall, lost vikings, and my boy zeratul such low winrate? did they all recieve nerfs or did the genji and dva movement speed powercreep + mael kill everything while self sustaining powercreep push them to the bottom?

>>181337314
I'm not the one literally shaking assblasted angry at a fucking video game you child.

>>181337405
high skillcap heroes that faggots who want to mimic pros like to pick and throw games with

>breaking shit because you are angry
How's that 95 IQ working out for you?

>>181337405
It's not powercreep, those heroes are not easy to play and not always good. People pick them in QM or can't play them correctly so tank their winrate.

>>181337405
>Muradin
Low winrate because he is the most popular tank so he gets picked a lot
>Thrall
Don't know why his winrate is low
>Lost Vikings
THey dont see a lot of play
>Zeratul
Outshined by Valeera

>>181337464
no but you're the petulant faggot making baseless assumptions like the retarded inbred baboon you are

>>181337496
132 officially tested IQ; sorry.

>>181335045
Still EXP loss.

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>>181337593
You aren't unique. People post their "muh team" stories all the time and they are all the same. Just because you think you're "so polite" doesn't mean you actually are, and the fact that you throw an actual tantrum IRL when you lose or don't get your way in a video game proves this.
pic related it's you

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>>181337593
>Posting your "actual" IQ on an imageboard

You're either baiting or incredibly stupid, maybe both

>>181337585

genji is still op, valeera is still op, and every OW hero is OP

don't expect any balance soon, mainly for OW heroes, because blizzard doesn't want autistic screeching at their offices coming from Jeff

meanwhile OW is losing interest

>>181337770
no it's not me, my high IQ caused me a shitload of issues already and the psychiatrist who tested me warned me about it, but it's utterly unrelated to the subject at hand

>>181337102
>>181337202 This
I climbed 2 ranks just for accepting all the stupid heroes my team picked and playing my best heroes.

>>181336280
>When do I go for mercenary camps?
depends on the map. but generally prior to objectives. there are a few exceptions though.
>hanamura
if you have bribe, take the hard camp on CD. take the turret camp as you pass next to it while you escort the objective with a teammate or two, take sentry camps on cd. exp is important on hanamura more than the actual camp items.
>haunted mines
take sappers whenever you can, since everyone jumps on them as soon as they spawn. take giants prior to mines opening
>towers
try to take before objectives,but also doesnt really matter. what matters with sappers is that you try to escort them so that they blow up. sappers also hit core if they reach the read zone behind a keep.
>shrines
before objectives. less important for goats, very important for shamans.
>boe
same as shrines. you usually wont get shamans during the first immortal, but for second and each one after, the announcer gives you enough time to go to the camp and cap it.
>tosq
camps absolutely not important. you dont even have to bother taking. can help a bit if you know the enemy is turning in, to depush mid.
>sky temple
siege giants should be taken as soon as they spawn, and promptly escorted, so that you can chunk the bottom wall, and healing well if you're lucky, since the second temple is always going to be bot. take knights a minute or so after the last shot of the first temple phase was fired, so that it can push top lane while everyone is bot.
>garden
try to take them right before the night sets in

part 1

>>181337869
Your autism is not an excuse

>>181337986
I'm not the one who brought it up, but keep it up with your reddit hominem, you'll go far

>>181337959
>>181336280
>bhb
have a dedicated player to camp literally all game, taking everything on cooldown. timing absolutely unimportant.
>dragon shire
same `prior to objective` rule applies. use the camps to create pressure on one of the shrine lanes while you force a fight on the other shrine if late/mid game, or just use mercs to push bot or top hard if you have more of your players than enemies in that lane.
>cursed hollow
if youre camping on cursed you should be on the siege giant camp spawn at 1:55 and take it on cd. if you're lucky, it will push top while the tribute fight is bot or vice versa. after that, just get a feeling of when approx the next trib will spawn and take beforehand.
>braxis and warhead
the easy camp should be taken on cd. if youre solo top for instance, you can clear the wave and go cap the camp and still be back in time to soak the next wave. hard camp requires at least three people in order to not loose too much hp/mana and should be taken whenever theres nothing better to do.

>And with what chars?
sonya samuro thrall greymane rehgar zagara. everyone else wastes too much time/resources for solo clearing. have in mind the braxis/warhead easy camp can be taken by literally anyone with minimal loss of hp or mana.

>bronzies still think valeera is good
>they actually think she is better than zera

You people are beyond stupid.

>>181337585
>Outshined by Valeera
In low elo maybe but nope

>>181338078
>>181336280
also i forgot to add illidan, especially good as a dedicated camper on bhb because hunt makes him global on top of his camping abilities.

>>181337593
/r/iamverysmart

>>181338098
valeera has been nerfed so much since she was released that im surprised people even play her, let alone think shes OP.

but if they buff her now shitters will whine so she will forever be an inferior zeratul

>>181338326
>this actually exists
lol, have some actual intellect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUIcCyPOA30

>>181337959
>>181338078
Thanks for the tips anon.

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>>181337865
>every OW hero is OP
He says while Tracer has massively fallen out of grace while Zarya is solid and Lucio is trying to find his right ground.

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Joo want hammer?

>>181337593
>132 IQ
>wasting his life raging at hots and breaking shit

new zuljin with gulli is kind of fun

>>181321919
Not a huge accomplishment as a ranged aoe character, really. Try it on Kerrigan or Butcher.

me unga team bunga

>>181339615
you think it's worth taking over tazdingo? I haven't tried it out yet but it's a big bunch of damage

>>181329137
>old man twisted fate

>>181340136
if you have competent supports or you know they will just shut down your dingo with stuns\blinds\ etc. its a good pick now. but you gotta play safer

>it's a shitty jaina can't land a root and does less damage than tanks episode
great

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I want Stukov to infest me!

>>181340770
I once played leoric and entombed enemies yet she still missed.

>>181337865
Muh ow blizz boogieman

Kys

>>181337865
>valeera still OP
>genji OP
>OW heroes OP
silver, is that you?

>>181337865
>Valeera OP

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So blizz stopped doing big ass and boobs and started going for the feminine audience?
Read file name.

what are some f*n warriors? The only one I've played much so far is rexxar but I wanna branch out a little

>>181342937
wow nice find anon i would have never noticed the giant muscular man with a huge bulge up until i read the file name as you instructed me to

>>181343089
literally any warrior but rexxar

>>181343089
Stitches slam build most fun for me and race car Dehaka with aa talents. Anub/Arthas are meta.

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>>181342937

>>181343936
stiches slam build is fun because it turns him from having literallly 1 button that has an impact on the game into having 2

i wish his abilities were more useful baseline. slam should at least have a 30% slow or something. he can hook people into his team and then he has fucking nothing to follow up on it and stop them from just walking away again

>>181344429
Fully never

>>181344429
still decent waveclear with orb but you need specific positioning

rip calamity though, it was too good for this world

>promotion match
>shitter jaina feeder
>promotion match
>healer switches to tassadar and no heals
I wonder what my next promo will have?

jesus, guillotine just deletes people

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post em

this week i expect li li to get up there because i can't stop playing her

>>181344382
Yeah that slow baseline would be nice. As long as your team reacts fast enough it's usually fine.

I left the game for quite a while and came back... Everyone is so much nicer now, what happened?

>>181345290
Every game has sperglords, QM is generally more relaxed these days because people know it's a joke. Good luck in Hero League though.

>>181344429
oh wow she really does look like li ming

>>181344429
Blizzard
>If the calamity nerf hurts her too much we can buff her in other ways.

*sitting at 45% winrate*

>tfw teammates chase 1 player instead of pushing core with us
>enemy wins with 2% core

>>181345517
The problem is that Pros have discovered that Ming counters Cocoon and is amazing on maps like Sky Temple and Immortal. It\'s hard to justify buffing a hero that sees such frequent play at high level.

>>181345476
I haven't tried unranked, is it a shitfest?

>>181345819
People just pick whatever they want, but at least it's more organized than QM and there's no mirror matching or Tass vs. Abathur shit.

>>181345819
unranked is my favorite way to play this game honestly, you get the funniest comps on either team. Also no one gets mad

>>181342937
i've been fapping to crossdressing stitches for weeks

>>181342937
More like they know how to play the game and to keep people calm about skin tight perky tits and ass, they offer girls cheesecake as well

Why hasn't Hanamura been removed yet?

At least a public apology for creating the worst map by a long fucking shot?

>>181346971
That's a funny way to spell Dragon shrines

>>181347018
this tbqh famalam

>>181347018
>>181347064
you came during 2.0 right

>>181346971

>blizzard
>apology

they arent bethesda to admit that they went full retarded anon

>>181346971
except garden and haunted mines are the worst

Why is every Overwatch hero a cancerous sack of shit of which you cannot ever escape but who has 75 different ways to get out of any bad situation?

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HL Stats

What does this say about my

Sex Life;

Eating Habits;

Personal Skill;

Weight;

Kinks;

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:3

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Which meme will this be?

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>Sylvanas tries to fight boss solo while they're still 3 up at the like 10 minute mark
>no one helps but they don't disengage
>enemy comes back to their payload we just defended and wipes them
>this happens
>afks near the medic camp the rest of the game, sometimes hitting it so they don't get kicked

how much of a whiney asshole do you have to be to do this? To not just, leave and get a bot when your team makes a non-optimal play in qm but to waste your fucking time too making sure you don't get kicked. Like it blows my mind someone would be this much of an asshole, they seem like the type to start screaming at their waiter cause an order was wrong

They were truly leagues ahead of me in game knowledge though that they think sylvanas is a good solo lane hero while my dumb pleb ass thinks she will die to their butcher repeatedly if I'm not there to spam gravity lapse on him (which is exactly what happened once I left the lane)

>>181347984
some shit mount.

>>181347984
A skin you already have

>>181347984
dickbulge Tychus

>oh boy i sure feel like playing hammer in QM
>every SINGLE time enemy team has zeratul/liming/stitches/nazeebo or similar shit that punishes extremely hard stationary heroes

>>181347984
butcherlisk

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>>181347984

>>181348448
almost everything punishes stationary heroes. siege mode is a self-imposed root. Half the reason Malf is valued so highly is because of his root.

you shouldn't be sieging up hardly at all anyway. Only to kill minion waves or to get a few hits in on buildings while you know it is safe to do so (eg. you just saw all the problematic heroes on the opposite end of the map)

siege mode does the same damage as normal mode except for splash. Very small splash at that.

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>first picks azmodan
>taste for blood

>>181348448
pro tip: your attacks do the same damage whether or not you are in siege mode
if you don't want the splash damage or range for pve shit, just run around unsieged and pretend to be raynor

>>181342937
Do girls even like staring at guys' junk?

>>181349060
sure but there are probably more dudes that post in this thread than girls on earth that play this game

>>181349060
not really

that tychus skin is actually gay fanservice

>>181349060
nah they like shit like rolled up sleeves and exposed forearms

ripped shirtless dudes and big bulges are part of the gay agenda

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>>181348195
>>181348306
>>181348398
>>181348503
>>181348653

why does the default ping only show up on the minimap and not the main screen
this is pretty dumb and shitty
if i want to point out a specific location i have to use one of the alternate gimmick pings

>>181347850
because the immobile heroes in ow haven't been ported yet
well, zarya has, but she has bubbles

>>181349480
memiest skin, congrats

What should I play in this game if I want to not look at the screen much but still contribute a bare minimum to my team so they don't for sure lose?

Abathur I guess?

>>181350328
abathur has to look at his screen (and especially map) a LOT
just play lili and put something heavy on your keyboard's Q button

>>181350328

Lucio to just walk around and e in the middle of your team, or Gall since you don't have to pay attention to objectives or moving or anything

>>181329137
>That video
LITERALLY Immortan Joe with a hook hand

lune when?

>>181345163
Abathur first at around 700 games
Zagara second at around 400 games
Rest I don't remember

>>181341107
Stukov can infest waifus in both teams with his "toxins" if you understand what I want to say. That is much more than new Tychus' skin

>>181352724
Speaking of infested skins, why aren't there an infested morales, hammer, or raynor?

>>181348116
In his defense I do this when my team is really bad too. Take this example of a Quickmeme I had today:
>Sky Temple
>my team iirc was: Diablo, Rehgar, Tassadar(me), Malthael and Alarak
>late game we have a huge advantage
>ALL their keeps are down
>we still have 1 fort and all keeps
>still, the match has gone in some kind of stalemate because my team decided to scatter and do stupid shit
>Diablo and Rehgar 1v5 repeatedly and feed continuously
>finally lose whats left of my patience when enemy team is capping our Bruiser Camp
>Diablo rushes in, despite me pinging 1 gorillion times retreat and telling him in chat to wait for us
>Diablo dies
>Rehgar goes and do the exact same thing

After that I just sat afk in lane and stopped participating, it was obvious these people didnt want to win, so I was not going to waste my time either. In the end we lost and they had the nerve to say
>gg tassadar
>report tassadar
Score screen comes up, me, Alarak and Malthael have around 4-5 deaths each. Rehgar and Diablo have 11-12.

TLDR, if people are doing retarded shit despite being warned repeatedly, then ill throw the game.

>>181347851
Lowest winrates in the only maps that matter.
Bronze af.

>>181352817
You has forgot Nova. Her Infested skin was at early concept

>>181345143
It has a huge delay and you have to sacrifice 4 seconds of invincibility for it. It's still not worth whatsoever.

>>181353112
Yeah, the delay is way longer than I thought it'd be. Good for blowups, I guess.

>>181352830
dude it's fucking quick match who cares. It's just people who are bad or playing with their friends or tired or drunk or just don't give a shit, you just look like a whiny baby throwing a fit

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>>181322812
Aha! So somebody has taken up the mantle.

I stopped coming around after the massive flood of new people due to cross-promotions.

>>181353693
i completely forgot about it desu
nobody posted it up until now
i'll try and continue the legacy until you show up again

>>181323117
>Can people walk through your Massive Shove?
Probably
>You can still be interrupted from Massive Shove right? Or will the arm just keep going?
Would assume it could be interrupted
>Can people hit the arm while its shoving?
That'd be dumb

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HNNNNNNG

I'm new, do I have to have effects on high or ultra to effectively spot cloaked heroes or do I just need practice?

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I haven't been this mad at video games in a while.

>Illidan keeps pushing way too far out and feeding
>insists on pushing core when all three lanes are pushed in with mercs, we have 1 keep of theirs, and they have 2 dead who are 20 and 15 seconds from respawning
> our D.Va is the obligatory retarded AFK splitpush D.Va that seems to be almost every single one of them
>their Tracer builds 15 stacks of her autoattack booster off of our Murky and keeps them for like 20 minute straight
>their Tracer and Li-Ming repeatedly 2v5 our team at objective while their Vikings are pushing our assholes out of mouths
>while I'm tilted, I decide that getting Last Laugh into "Stupid Mobile Assholes: The Team" was a good idea
>game lasts 35 fucking minutes

>>181354261
Didn't someone make a set of images comparing high quality and low quality?

>>181354261
Old SC2 trick is to have ground textures super low
Beyond that, keep your camera still as much as possible
The human eye is really good at detecting movement, so when your camera isn't moving you'll instinctually spot the glimmer more often

What exactly determines what heroes can be rooted or not by Ring of Frost? I often see heroes walking free after I cast it. I thought only the "Unstoppable" effect would make someone immune to rooting. What gives?

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>>181354261
it doesn't really matter
turn off anti aliasing, tinker with texture quality some, and as >>181355159 suggested, turn off camera lock and keep the camera still for stealthies

>>181355173
Center of the ring doesn't root

>>181354261
Practice most likely

I am playing on Medium and I can spot them just fine.

The cloak is actually fairly well done imo. It's not really noticeable if you are not scanning your field of view for it, but if you are looking for the shimmer it's pretty easy to spot.

Only time they get the jump on me is when they catch me with my pants down, and the thought of a cloaker being nearby didn't even occur to me.

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>>181355308

>>181355173
Only the ring part roots, people can "dodge" the stun by standing in the middle.

>>181355273
but sad cloud is the best cloud

>>181355491
>>181355308
this doesn't fucking work because it's a still fucking image

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>>181355173
Friendly reminder that it's a ring, not a circle.

Standing in the center prevents you from taking damage or being rooted.

>>181355648
I just think a sad face in a legendary box with the mount icon pretty well sums up legendaries.

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niceu

>>181354215
My nigga. Navel looks even better in the actual skin. There should be more pool skins of sexy champs. Imagine Sylvanas in one of those.

>>181336051
https://youtu.be/9Deg7VrpHbM?t=2s

>Is kerrigan autistically op atm?

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is there anyone more unfair in qm than rex? blog related, val fags btfo

>>181357282
Who are you quoting? And no.

>>181357432
>dying as rex
what a shitter

>>181357432
Rex can be shut down far too easily in QM. All that needs to happen is for Rex to play against a dive assassin and for that person to not be shit. Easily counters Rexxar.

>>181354215

Error 404, boobs not found

>>181358237
>that everything else
>that original OW ass
>boobs
Plebian detected. A real man looks past what's most obvious.

>Two overshitters on enemy team
>Dicking around in QM with Cassia
>Regen per blocked enemy attack quest Cassia
>lol should fill instantly
>Quest is some how throttled vs rapid attacks
>blocks are not

Why are overshitters given the best benefit or everything regarding their attacks?

>>181358793
>original OW ass
what ass?

>>181358793
>that everything else
Vagina bones and half a navel? Half visible thighs?
What are you, a muslim?
If you say hands you are worse than muslims.

>>181359556
>doesn't like vagina bones
Anon pls

>>181359804
Bitch I want my vaginas to have teeth.

>>181325778
being the banner is a good thing though, you can ban what you don't want to play against

TERMINATOR TERMINATED

>>181359884
Nothing sexier than a woman that can kill you instantly.

>>181348878
tfb is good if you can build stacks with someone like johanna, but i usually see azmodans with <100 stacks at level 20

I'd rather be matched up with a vikings that groups them all up instead of Cho'gall

If they are bad it's the worst experience ever

>>181360120
I have only ever been in one game with an Azmo who went TFB and had 400+ stacks by level 20.
Admittedly that azmo was godly and made me wonder why I never get such good azmo players but that is life I suppose.

>>181360236
It really is, and I say that as someone who abuses Cho'gall and Auriel a lot.

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>>181348878
Fuck you, I'm going to build my stacks and you're going to like it.

>>181360605
I think my biggest problem is when the enemy team keeps killing my waves in lane so that I can never distribute the damage so every wave is only 1-3 stacks for the first 10 minutes. So the answer is probably to not take TFB when the enemy has good wave clear or they keep chasing you around.

How long do the Sun;s Out chests exist?

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>that navel
Halle-fuckin-lujah.

>>181359090
Because having mobility wasn't good enough and marketing >>>>>>>>>>>>> gameplay.

why the fuck do I keep getting matched vs d.va without a warrior on our team?

"durr she's not a tank" okay she can still make a massive amount of space for her team which makes pushing vs her hard and them pushing with her easy when you only have fucking assassins and specialists

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>>181349060
short answer they like it in terms of humor. The speedo skin is something up there for girls that would knit penis cozies (look it up) or just find dicks funny in general.

What usually gets them hot is behavior and actions, hence why most women read smut over viewing porn.

I just did 110k damage as malthael and we still almost lost. Gold league is suffering

>>181345503
well that would make her mix. Asian mother, Europe father made that kid and like almost every combo of that family type there poor kid went nuts.

>>181333895
It's just that free game always attract 3rd world subhumans.

>won 6 of 7 games today
>in the lost game we had no kills and our valla had less damage than malf
Does forced 50 happen through number manipulation ? Does blizzard steal your damage and heals?

>>181362493
She should honestly be classified as a tank. It's actually impossible to kill that hero if she doesn't play like a fucking idiot. Or I guess you don't have three seconds of stuns, can dive in on pilot, and still come out of the explosion in one piece.

A hero that tanky who doesn't actually die when they're killed has no excuse having Tracer's mobility.

>>181363556
How is dva even real haha just walk away lmao just stun her xD

>>181363556
basically this, with her W and charged E she is a Tank through and through. It's just most idiots charge in 1v3 get the mech peeled off and die shortly after.

Do the event items from the event chests not have a fucking occurence bonus up? I've gotten literally 1 event item from like 10 chests. Even the epic gave me a fucking ETC announcer.

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tyrael rework when

>>181354215
Looks like a probe stole human legs.

>>181355308
>)
>>181355491
This is so stupid, what's the point of comparing a static picture? even the idle animation while cloaked has visible movement, Only valeera is a bit harder to look while idle since she ducks.

>>181366424
he's one of the best tanks while not being OP he's perfect where he's at

>>181366828
He has one build though, I feel like he could use the Thrall treatment where they make his mandatory talents baked together or baseline so he as actual talent choices.

>>181366828
He doesn't need a rework. But it would be nice his explosion happened whenever an ally died instead of when he died.

>level 4 leoric "royal focus" talent
HWAT THE FUck is this

If Leoric's body takes no damage during Wraith Walk's duration, the cooldown is reduced to 4 seconds. Wraith Walk also increases the damage of the next Skeletal Swing within 5 seconds by 50%.

>>181366948
There are some useless never picked talents (shield on death level 1 for example) but there is a lot of variation you can do. You can go passive fire or hp regen. You can go extra damage level 1 if they have squishies and you expect to die a lot over the nuke damage. I wouldn't mind seeing a minor quest for him though like maybe mana reduction on smite/might.

>>181367184
There's basically two variations and that (Do I have support or not)

You get burning rage and burst shield or you get shield regen and shield CDR

That's not variation. Though, his ults are now perfectly competitive now and that's good.

>>181366424
They won't rework him.
At best they do kind of what >>181366948 said, and at 1 he chooses
"Q Quest, Hit 10 enemies with Q, Reward: speed bonus after teleporting. Hit 20 enemies with Q, Reward: attack speed bonus after teleporting. Hit 40 enemies with Q, Reward: permanent CDR with Q."
"E Quest, Kill 80 enemies within 1.5 seconds of hitting them with E. Reward: E does more damage, gives a better move speed, and hits a bigger area. Passive: E costs 20 less mana."
"Trait Quest, Block 2,000 Hero damage on allies with your W. Reward: Whenever an ally hero dies, you create an explosion around you as if your trait activated."

>>181367108
still doesn't seem better than the more healing from drain life

>>181367108
That talent exists for when Leoric is dual-soaking.
Sure it can get some extra damage at the start of a team-fight, but really the reason you take it is because on medium sized maps like sky temple, you can E from one lane to the next with extended duration, wipe a wave then spoop your way back to the original lane to do it there too.
This is assuming your team is deathballing to keep the enemy busy of course.

On spider queen you're still better taking Fealty in most situations, and on most other maps you're still better taking either the more healing or +25 armor for your escape/chase.

>>181367108
you take that plus the extended wraithwalk duration at 7 and just float between two lanes bopping creeps

>>181367783
i'm thinking holy ground should be part of the q quest
but if they did that nobody would take any other level 1 talent

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Should i main Chromie guys?

I just got her blonde blue eyes genie skin.

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>being dominated all game in the immortals map
>still manage to get most immortals because of crazy gazlowe dps
>almost at 20 and shit is looking grim, we're going 15-31
>manage to win small fights here and there and slowly take down their structures
>win the game at the 40th minute thanks to catapults sieging them on both sides

>>181369397
Holy Ground straight up needs to be baked into Q as a small quest like Tyrande's quests are.

It's required for Tyrael without question, just make it baseline and gate it behind a quest that finishes around level 13-16 and it will be gucci.

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>>181369730
Nothing like watching a pair of catapults kill the enemy Varian and the Core while the enemy team also can only watch.

>>181369683
>Should i main Chromie

Y

>genie skin

No.

>>181369683
Chromie looks fun

>>181354543
>blaming others for your 12 deaths
I dont understand how people die more than 6 times in a game. Shit even six is feeding.
Dont blame your team mates if you are feeding that much man

Sounds like you are as bad or worse than your team mates

>>181370909
the enemy team has a tracer though so if the team isnt there with him he just gets his ass eaten

>>181371404
So him being stupid enough to be alone justifies those deaths?

As butcher, when I should not take abattoir?

>>181371865
when you need to take block

>>181371404
if you are against an enemy hero who can solokill you, do not run around on the map alone unless you know where she is

>>181372010
but muh infinite scaling

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>>181321046
Which heroes are ACTUALLY S-Rank, hotsg?

>>181370808

She's alright. Cooldowns are too long to be truly fun.

And yes I understand why she has long cooldowns.

>>181373361
>"""""""""long"""""""""

>>181373341
gazlowe's announcer pack

>>181373448

They're pretty long, miss in a teamfight and you're deadweight for pretty much the whole thing.

Dragon's Breath anyway

>>181373341
anub genji uther

>>181373685
>20s
>long
you don't know shit about long cooldowns, okay?

>>181373856

For a non ult that's a pretty long cooldown, stop being autistic.

>tfw have watched the Stukov video like 8 times now

I just want him to be on PTR already

>>181373341
Malthael, Genji, racecar Dehaka, Anub'arak

Possibly exclude Genji since he has to be played well and has a higher skillcap to do so, unlike the others who are faceroll easy or have some characteristic that is hugely impactful

Gorge says "can't be used on massive heroes" but what qualifies as massive?

>>181374010
Oh shit Uther too even after nerf, but requires teammates who understand his strengths/weaknesses, which you prob won't run into in QM

>>181374169
big guys

>>181374010
>racecar Dehaka
people actually go movement speed on him? wtf

>>181374169
Avatar Muradin, anyone else who transforms and gets bigger, heroes in vehicles like DK/GT

Heroes with intrinsically large models like stitches, azmo, etc are fine

Why does Cursed Bullet specifically state that it cannot hit vehicles if it can only hit heroes? does that mean that it cannot hit Hammer? what's the poi9nt of that?

>>181373974
nah
upheaval has a pretty long cooldown for something that isn't an ult
metamorphosis has a pretty long cooldown for something that isn't an ult
molten core has a pretty long cooldown for something that isn't an ult
20s ain't shit

If you can swap out a hero for another one from a different MOBA with stats and mechanics appropriately adjusted, who will it be?

>Trade Nova for Zac from LoL

Get rid of Nova mains and gain an awesome long range ganker.

>>181374454

Molten Core especially is basically a second ult, stop being pedantic holy shit.

Why do you fucks need the last word so goddamn badly.

>>181374454
All of those except molten core are an ult

>>181374335
Once quest is completed he has 40% movement speed for 5s every time he leaves a vent/bush. Removes his one weakness of poor mobility, makes him good at ganks and running people down, let's him rotate extremely fast if he's not solo landing. Absolutely absurd on smaller maps like Tomb too

>>181374693
wrong upheaval and metamorphosis

>>181374365
Vehicles refers to GT/DK. It works fine for characters with vehicles in their kit like hammer or Tychus, as well as mounts.

>>181374010
How the fuck do you even build Dehaka?

I don't use any announcer pack other than default because they never say anything related to the objective. Am I the only one who has this problem/cares about this? I swear I would purge 75% of the character voicelines if it meant that the remaining 25% had more work put into them.

>Casters going "huehue where does lunara keep her spear"

p r o f e s s i o n a l

>>181374941
1 enhanced agility / tissue regen
4 one who collects
7 feeding frenzy (makes drag pretty spammable in team fights) or symbiosis
10 usually adaptation, isolation can work as poor man's cocoon
13 primal rage or primal swarm depending on team comp/skill
16 usually burrowing claws for escape, elongated tongue is good if you're good at landing drags and don't need the escape
20 apex predator or essence claws

pls gib cassia build

>>181375378
Does she not keep it in her hand?

Alternatively her vagina.

Go on hotslogs and find the least popular and/or lowest winrate talent for each level for one hero. Is the hero good? Unplayable? Somewhere in the middle?

Chromie would be kinda shit. Especially considering she'd have to take loophole.

>>181374335
Why wouldn't you? It's pretty broken.

>>181336051
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

What tweaks would ETC need to become Meta?

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>>181378324
Increase duration of his new trait and that's it. Maybe make it spread to allies or something.

>>181378324
by playing better music
heavy metal is weighting him down

>>181378324
ETC is a high skill hero, you might laugh but knowing how to use his extremely powerful cc is the key to success. I play him and have good win rate, I'm currently on diamond 2. People think he's weak bc mosh can get interrupted but it's bc they don't know when to use it.

>>181378324
>>181378469
>abilities give him 30 armor for 3 seconds and allies get 15 for 2
MAYBE

but E.T.C is already good, just not anub-good

How do I build Greymane?

>>181381737
flask build

>>181370909
Did you even look at the other death counts? Also D.Va and Murky are actually way worse than it looks, because .5 and .25 deaths respectively. I'm not gonna say I played amazing, but there's clearly more than just me at fault here.

>>181371589
>implying the other 4 aren't just all over the map, and even when they're together, you don't get dived into with them all right there anyway once they realize that your allies aren't stopping them

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What's her endgame?

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>>181382328

>>181382328
To steal as many stats with Essence Shift as possible.

wtf is this forced 50% winrate meme? i quit for like 5 months takes me a few days to get back into the swing of things and im still getting shitstomped is this what i get for having a 54% winrate prior? is this a legit thing?

>>181383262
yes

>>181383262
the answer is obvious, you would know it if you were not retarded

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>>181383134
>essence shift
fuck Slark, that shit makes Genji look fair

>>181383262
Does this apply to QM or only to ranked, what mode did you play anyway?

>>181383262
the goal of pretty much every matchmaker every designed is to have a given player win 50% of their matches
the "forced" part is just bronzies making excuses for their shitty play and attitude

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Artanis will carry me out of Bronze

>>181383920
>Can't land the prism to save my life
Suffering

>>181384031

It's pretty easy, it has travel time so shoot where they're going, not where they are.

Unless they're walking in a straight line of course.

>team keeps suiciding vs morales instead of focusing the person she's not healing

wew

>>181375551
If you're going feeding frenzy you should take primal rage+essence claws, you'll be spamming drag and healing a ton.

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Which character almost always does well? Pic related, even just heals on low HP ppl and a stim drone makes her useful.

Also Artanis.

why does God keep giving me subhuman dirt league BR teammates

>1 game from promo
>2 leavers right after we load in

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AWESOME!! FUCKING. AWESOME.

>>181385819
punishment for your sins
you sicko stop looking at those sites
girls don't have those