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More monster than man Edition

What's new?

>Stukov confirmed; Starcraft Support
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/stukov/
https://youtu.be/KBBUVUmzxKk

>Sun's Out, Guns Out Summer Event and Sweepstakes; Now LIVE
>New summer themed skins, mounts, and sprays
>Event ends the week of July 24th
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20838724/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20852963/
https://youtu.be/mAolE6W_l9I
https://youtu.be/2RNtPcvCf8Q

>Heroes of the Storm 2.0
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20695700/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/

>For New Players
>Welcome to Heroes of the Storm
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE
>Official Community Resources, Guides, and Tips
>Talent Calculators, Statistics, Youtubers, and more
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/guides-resources/
>Tier lists are effective guidance tools, but should never be blindly followed
http://www.heroescounters.com/map
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist
http://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/heroes-of-the-storm-tier-list

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20877885/
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20888395/
>Current Patch Notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20861968/

>Where can I talk to like minded individuals to discuss shitposting?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

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expand ARM
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>>181438191
Yes
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>>181438098

Warcraft 3 15th Anniversary Anon

SCBW is 19 years old and they will release the remaster next month

imagine the fuckton of money that blizzard would get due to Dawn of War 3's failure?
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>>181438256
>not sonya
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>>181438191
Sonya, Zarya, Lunara, Johana, Morales.
>>181438256
Too young.
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>mfw Stukov is the next hero
>mfw he is a solo support
>mfw he looks incredibly fun to play
>mfw Kel'Thuzad next
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What are gonna be the two or three heroes announced at Blizzcon 2017 guys?
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>>181438515
>johana
u wot. definetely not
also morales shaves for sanitary reasons
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>>181438946
>morales shaves for sanitary reasons
Raynor has scruffy beard/hair and tychus looks dirty. I doubt terran marines have time for hygiene when in armor.
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>>181438923
Junkrat and mei
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Gengu is too stronk pls nerf so I can get out of bronze and into grand master where I belong.
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>>181438923

Mei, Kel'Thuzad, Imperious
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>>181438923
Overmind as a gimmicky 5 man hero
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>>181438191
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who is the best healer right now

is lili good?
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>>181438946
Pubes exist for sanitary reasons anon.
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>>181439297
BW get the biggest healing numbers on scoreboard.
LiLi is really good.
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>>181439340
they exist for copulation.
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>win 9 games in a row
>2 of us get disconnected for 10 minutes in the 10th game
But what do I know, I am merely the only constant.
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>>181439416
BW?
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>>181439252

I could see it as a Map, like something based on the final battle of Aiur from SC1.
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>still no buffs for best girl tyrande
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>>181439710
Brightwing
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>>181439710
Brightwing. She might not be the best support, but her trait build has the best healing output in the game.
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lili has the shittiest model and skin selection ingame
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>>181439801
my winrate with her is 52%
No buff needed
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>>181439979
Ragnaros has worst skin selection

Arthas has worst model.
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>>181439801
>Pick tyrande or tassadar in QM
>3 out of 4 matches, you're the only support in the game
>Boost your QM MMR like crazy
>Get placed in high plat or diamond after HL placements
Feelsgood
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>>181439882
>she
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>>181439297
Lili is solid, but more as a secondary support
Right now Uther is the first pick healer in the majority of cases
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>>181440297
>Pixie Charm
>Each time Brightwing heals an Allied Hero with Soothing Mist, she gains a stack of Bribe.
>She
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>tfw the 1st time since alpha today when i alt+f4
man that match was so anti-fun, hopeless and aimless that i really had no other option but save time
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im so fuckin sick of this meta already. i hate double tank and double support its so fucking lame fuck this game.
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>>181440297
its been confirmed by blizz so yes.she
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>>181440726
It's almost like we're playing Overwatch now.
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>>181440726
just play QM, you queue as an assassin and it is a 5 assassin vs 5 assassin

no healer no tank meta!
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>>181440726
had a game not too long ago that reminded me of wow arena
just two teams whacking away at each other with nobody dying until somebody fucked up using their "out", like Valla vaulting early

>>181438256
delet
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>>181440882
5assV5ass is the true test of skill
when you dont have supports or tanks to save your ass or setup kill you only have yourself to make plays
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Is Stukov's favorite genre of television slapstick comedy?
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why is etc never picked anymore what did they do to him
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>>181441856
Added better characters
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>Anub'Arak still not nerfed
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>"whats the matter... do you have allergies HAHAHA"

LUNARA IS CUTE!
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Who you want me kill?
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>>181442359
all elves are cute
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>>181442359
I play her (somewhat) frequently and I've never heard that.
The way she laughs IS cute though, I can agree.
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>>181442635
He has the best voice lines of all heroes
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>>181442808
because they are all copied from when blizz was good
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>>181442639
But that is a Dryad!
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HEY! do you think having a team comp with 2 tanks and 2 healers for the sole purpose of protecting their 1 damage character (in hots btw not league) might shine a light on how powerful that damage character is? should this be a viable strategy to playing a team based moba that has team experience and level gains and no items/gold/ability to get one character fed to absolute god tier HMMMMM really making me think about team synergy and strategy here
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>>181439727
honestly it was kinda funny how underwhelming that was playing it now, I was expecting the location of the overmind to be some like, eldritch horror stuff but its the same grassy field covered in creep as all the other zerg locations
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>>181442639
>lunara
>elf
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>>181442907
if you find any of her non elf parts attractive you will be gassed along with the li li fags
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>>181442912
>with the exception of like Nazeebo and Butcher you can't fuck over individuals too hard by killing them
feels kind of bad desu
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>>181442938

It's been over a decade since I played, but hadn't the overmind literally just transplanted himself to Aiur and hadn't had time to properly settle in?
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>>181443916

>be kael
>take flamestrike quest like a fucking idiot
>finish it at 30mins at best
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>>181443980
I guess so but it wasn't really explained why he was there, I thought the Overmind would be on another planet like Char and that was the whole point of having cerebrates to micromanage your colonies.
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>>181442639

>elves
>cute
anon....
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC-ZanQjHXM
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>>181443916
You forgot Medivh.

I ping the shit out of a Medivh and suicide charge him when he hits 15+ stacks on his quest.

It is great because he gets past 20 stacks during the fight and then loses it all.
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>>181444237
You finish it early, late game it's never going to happen.
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>>181442767
it's from her taunt
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I don't even know what I want.
What are some good legendary drops?

Also don't fall for the Surfboard meme. It got some perma water sound as you move which gets super annoying very fast.
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>>181444468
I don't know you but I want you to know that I hate you.
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>>181444871
what the fuck is this edit

also the best legendary drops are 10k and especially 15k heroes.
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>>181444871
You could spend some shards on best announcer, friend.
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>>181444543

im so bad at it i need the rest of the talents to actually be able to safely hit it 20 times

at this point if i play kael i just build living bomb otherwise i hate myself for 20 minutes
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when will they give li ming her waveclear back?
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does anyone happen to have the screencap with the guy predicting d.va, malth, genji and some other heroes.
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>>181445135
>the best drops are heroes
I got all of them.

>>181445264
shards are to be saved for event shit which you didnt get from chest also you posted the wrong image
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>>181445382
Yeah, if you die once in the early game it's never going to get finished. It's a pretty shit talent imo.
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>>181445669
It's pretty good but super risky and thus not suited for a beginner. I never take it myself, unless I'm against SamFam/Rexxar.
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maiev soon!
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>>181446301
zeratul is literally maeiv
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>>181445610
It was Junkrat and Kel'thuzad

I know, because I was the one who wrote that post and am losing my shit over past few days seeing anons pointing to it like it's Axolotl's holy leak gospel, while it was just lucky guess on 3 out of 5
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>>181445610
>>181446609
And here's the post, if you still want it anyway
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>>181446301

its Kel Thuzad + the HS frozen throne Xpac and War 3 Remaster/HD update anon

there's no reason to sell both Diablo 2 and War 3 and its xpacs as separate products any more
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stukov WHEN?
this tuesday or next one?
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>>181447034
>first half
>it's already july and 2 still missing
Fake news, sad!
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>>181447195
or is there? think about it goy, we could have 4 separate cross promotions!
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>>181442808
Mebbe I die
Mebbe you die too...
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Fix her heals
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when are they removing malthael from the game
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>>181442234
Imagine living in a world where Nazeebo's pots were full of tiny Anub'araks.
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>>181447435

Tomorrow is War3 15th Anniversary
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>>181446609
>>181447034
There was also another leak that was done just before Malth, it was

Malth
Stukov/Garrosh
Ana
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>>181447707
Work in those AAs nigger and EARN your heals, lil' bitch. Tyrando ain't no healslut, she a killer healslut, you don't kill shit you ain't healing shit
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>>181447881
Tomorrow.
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i will never get legendary...
i never saw anyone get it either
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>>181444237
Why more people don't take arcane barrier is beyond me, having 1000 mana as KT is a fucking blast. The shield is very nice too, coupled with Energy Roil at 4 it makes KT very hard for a solo assassin to kill
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>>181448068
you realised the higher hero dmg of the match right?
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>>181448303
I saw it once. I can't remember the circumstance, though.
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>>181448303
>tfw just spam click to leave because couldn't give less of a shit about the MVP screen
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>tfw the only map i actually have fun on is infernal shrines

why is that map so fucking superior to the rest
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>>181444254

I think it was something about all the psychic crystals on Aiur?
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>>181447949

Ana?
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>>181449158
oh yeah I forgot about the Xel'Naga crystals, I guess that makes sense.

Still I wonder if they'll make the overmind more intimidating than just a really big hive in the remaster
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>>181449158
No, the crytals and the site of the last two missions were just so you could summon the Overmind to Aiur.

It really is never explained explicitly but I always understood it was so the Overmind could personally oversee the assimilation process, maybe a great psychic power was needed to achieve perfection.
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>>181449290
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/ana/

>>181447949
>Garrosh
Yes, please.
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>>181449290
Sniper healer from Overwatch.
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>>181449625
>>181449290
>>181447949
>sniper healer
>healing on a skillshot

Oh boy, I sure don't see how that may become frustrating
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>>181442906
>best voice lines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmndxoF74qQ
>no we gonna bury you here taunt
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>>181449446
>Pirate Freebootaz Garrosh
PATRICK WILL GO NUTS!
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>>181447949
>No Kel'thuzad
Awful leak.
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>>181449625

they call Dat a sniper?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NZDwZbyDus
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>>181449446

Oh. Another Overwatch character.

I thought you meant Andarial for a second.

>Still no complete Angris Council
>Still only two Prime Evils, one of which is a Lesser
>Imperious and Itherael when?
>High speed Ambush Duriel with Slowing and DoT abilities when?
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>>181449946
Truly.
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>>181437565
Anyone have that one picture of an anime diablo fighting v malth?
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>>181449842

If they rip her kit straight from OW, it'll probably look something like this:

>Trait: Biotic Rifle
>Ana may autoattack allied Minions, Mercenaries and Heroes. Ana's basic attacks cause allied targets to heal for [num].
>Ana's basic attacks deal their damage over a short period of time.

>Q: Sleep Dart
>Ana fires a skillshot dart, stunning the first enemy it hits for [num].

>W: Biotic Grenade
>Ana throws a grenade to a target location. Allies hit by the grenade heal [num]% more from all sources for [num] seconds. Enemies hit have their healing reduced by [num]% for the same duration.

>E: ???

>R1: Nano Boost
>Ana fires a dart at target ally Hero that grants them [num]% more movement speed and [num]% more damage for [num] seconds.

>R2: ???
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>>181450349
>Ana fires a dart at target ally Hero that grants them [num]% more movement speed and [num]% more damage for [num] seconds.
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>>181450067

and shit like this makes me wonder why people wanks and overhypes OW...

this is pure gold comedy, in fact i played TF2 again after all these years and i still have fun playing that shit

funny that some things like Proof of Purchase(the hat) are rare nowadays
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>>181450093
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNxO8CqV3GY

When?
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>>181446609
Seems like you're good at guessing. Who will be the next 5 heroes?
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*Balances your qp match*
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>>181450482

anas ult literally is just morales stimdrone

idk how theyd make unique
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What's the best support for someone who doesn't want to think a whole lot?
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>>181451240
Lili
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>>181451240
Tassadar is strong (broken) and straightforward enough. Just remember to take templar's will.
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>Have never died on Li Li before
>Faggot Azmodan on team keeps dying like a little bitch because he has no clue how to play
>"i expected more help"
>About to lose game, enemy making final push
>Enemy uses bouncy ultimate thing on me
>Faggot Azmodan walks up to me
>Runs all the way from our gate to the fountain with me, ultimate bouncing between us
>Die

Time to uninstall, I guess. Faggots like these deserve to die in real life.
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>>181450546
TLV skin
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>>181450101
Verily.
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>>181451415
>worrying about KDA in the game where literally nobody cares about KDA
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>>181444871
Dont fall for this guys
That picture is fake. Blizz would never release lewd pics and you can tell its a fake by how its put just right onot the banner
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>>181451415
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how come people in this game do not communicate that often?
rarely do people say anything beyong gg or glhf.

im a new player with about 15 hours logged so maybe its just my low level
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>>181452014
when you get higher up, you'll see people talking about drafts too
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>>181452014
There's no wards to buy, so that eliminates 99% of all communication
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>>181452014
What exactly is there to communicate? Unless youre using voice chats theres no real reason to talk, just play and use pings to communicate.
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>>181442639
>Lunara
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>>181451882
I've seen lots of shoops in my life and this one looks legit to be honest family member
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What happened to Dignitas?
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>>181452532
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>>181452669
what happened to you?
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you know how characters have to give up things to have strengths? like they usually have a weak spot to make up for being good at other things?

then you have genji
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>>181439727
>Another StarCraft map

WARCRAFT MAPS WHEN???
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>take block on leoric
>feel like my W is completely useless

It's just so damn easy to walk out of without the extra range at 1
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>>181447949
Was there a tripcode?
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>>181454261
>warcraft map
could be cool, as long as it's a raid based map and not a memeground
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>>181449842
It's not, because she has an AoE heal grenade that also blocks enemy healing and also doubles allied healing.

>>181450067
You're just retarded, aren't you?
They're clearly ripping off the Crusader Crossbow but you have to post Meet The Sniper instead.
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>>181454261
We already have shit like Cursed Hollow, Dragon Shire, Blackheart's Bay, Towers of Doom, Haunted Mines, Garden of Terror, and Sky Temple. What more do you WoW fags want?
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>>181453961
Genji is literally 4 skills to offset his one weakness (being squishy) - the hero.
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>>181455068
No, it was just that list posted like a week or two before the Malthael candle tease on Twitter.
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>>181455507
That's not WoW though.
Why do you shitty SCfags always want more heroes, anyway? You already have Raynor and Kerrigan, and noone else is remotely relevant from those crap games, lol
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>>181455647
Yeah not going to trust a list without the leaker's tripcode.
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Leeroy Jenkins when?
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>>181455171

>Implying Alterac Valley isn't the perfect choice for a warcraft map.
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i dont understand hammer

shes literally a shitty raynor
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>>181456247
>using a siege tank as an infantry marine
Doing it wrong.
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>>181456247

>Get all the range talents.
>Get your team to defend you
>Zone the entire enemy team as you push them back to their core.
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>>181455748
>all this projection outta nowhere
Where on the doll did the Starcraft touch (You)?
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>>181448303
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So the next hero is a toss up between Garrosh/Kel'thuzad and then Ana/Junkrat.
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>>181448313
Because "hurr da pros take cunvection".
Back in silver, I saw so many idiots take it and so few finish it. Mana Addict is much better unless you're against multiple bodies, like Samuel or Vikings, or you actually are a pro.
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Man, I hate fuckers that say "gg". At least the people that say "ggez" are being honest about being assholes instead of those retards that think they're being sportsman-like.
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>>181442906
>from when blizz was good
More like because all his fuckin lines and accent are columbian Scarface quotes
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>>181457458
>not saying gg game
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>>181457458
>he gets THIS triggered over losing
What a fucking nerd
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You teasing fucks
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>>181457458

i just say gj when we win

it feels more sincere
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I'm gay?
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>>181457758
even half elves are lewd
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>>181457758
>male and female deers' asses look exactly the same
Oh yes, you sure are.
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>event sprays are rares

c'mon, even fucking overwatch doesn't do this
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what are your top 3 most favorite skins
bonus points for pics
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>>181457010
Garrosh and Ana? Why do people keep pusbing these two? Garrosh I get, but Ana would be stupid.
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>>181458418
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>>181458418
Explorer Lili
Redhead Nova
Master skin Gul'dan
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>>181458670
>Explorer Lili
care to explain why?
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>>181457727
>>181457575
No, I hate it when we win too. It's fucking insincere shit that retards say to think they're being sportsmanlike.
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>>181455245

keep an eye that there's a heavy headcanon atm showing that blizzard made OW as "future TF2"

since the comics are showing some characters like the Mann Brothers and some other shit
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>>181458798
Its cute, shadowpaw is nice too but it just doesnt grab me like Explorer.
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any etc mains here
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>>181459075
Overwatch takes a couple centuries after TF2's setting. A couple references do not make canon. That fancomic of Heavy being Zarya's uncle, while cute, can't work unless Zarya's a schizo who thinks she had a ghost Uncle shooting robots when she was a kid.
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Lewdiablo is best diablo
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>>181459915

WELL... following the latest TF2 coming, all of these fuckers are immortal thanks to medic

who outdicked the devil for their immortality since the war started

>http://www.teamfortress.com/tf06_thenakedandthedead/
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>>181458963
>being THIS fucking mad over gg
I say it because some people like it, some people like you hate it and as a kinda "amen" to a round, I'm not sorry at all that you can't handle it.
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>>181458418
armorless raynor is pretty good
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>>181460449
>meanwhile in LoL
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this forum is pretty slow
are there other hots boards other than the official one
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>>181460413
>following the latest TF2 coming, all of these fuckers are immortal thanks to medic
We must have read different comics. They all died but came back for various reasons that'll probably only work once. Sniper was resurrected, Scout got sent back to finish dicking all the women, Medic came back on a technicality and the implication that the next time would be his last, and all the Australium in the planet is basically exhausted now. There is no life extension or immortality.

Medic stealing their souls had nothing to do with their mortality.
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How to play angry fire man?
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>>181460715
Reddit is fairly active. 4chan slows down when there isn't anything to shitpost about.
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>>181460713
They even spelled easy instead of ez. I fucking hate gg spewers so much cause they're all full of shit but think they're righteous. It's the worst kinda asshole and that's what makes me so pissed off about them.
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>>181460930
Is this easy mode?
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>>181460715
Try 2ch
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>>181460896
Are you seriously telling people to go to reddit?
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>>181460930
If you got such thin skin you shouldnt play in the first place
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>>181461070
He asked. I didn't fucking invent the site so whatever.
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>>181461090
t. buttmad tribunal victim
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>>181461070
Blizzard actively posts there. Not much we can do about that.
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>>181460785
PURGE BY FIRE
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>>181461090
>thin skin
I come to this place. It is the self righteous cunts who think their little two letters is sportsmanship is what digs under my skin. It is the only thing that consistently pisses me off again and again. Even more frustrating is I cannot stop them cause the majority of retards really see it as sportsmanship.
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>>181460785
who is that?
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>>181462409
Ragnaros
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>>181463468
>not using linuxos
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>>181462223
gg, was a nice discussion but I won, I want to be fair so I won't say ez, I'll give you the benefit of trying though, fact remains that getting mad over gg is, and will forever be, a loser thing
>>
Games is an unplayable mess with this serverside lag spikes - funny thing is, they are able to solve this shit every once in a while, then a new patch hits the game and everything goes down the drain again.
>>
I started playing hots one moth ago. Now, feeling more confident, I wanted to try out HL and while I'm not a great player, boy... I'm being paired with really unaware people. How can I get out of bronze? Playing there feels like a trap or a prision
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>>181463658
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>>181464771
>Bronze
Like, actually?

Being even *slightly* competent.

>muh team
kys
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>>181464771
Play super independant shit like splitpushers
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>>181464523
>being cuckd by your isp
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Why is Nazeebo's head twitching all the time? What is wrong with him?
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>>181465129
Spooky voodoo twitches.
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Is cocoon balanced?
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>>181464523
>serverside
Laffin @ ur 3rd world ISP rn family
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>>181465374
with the range it has?
no
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>Malth continuing to have a 60%+ win rate
>Anub'arak
>Genji
>Uther

Nice little game you've got here.
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>>181465374
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>>181465580
Genji is the Medivh of assassins. Even if his winrate is 10%, he'd still be valuable at pro level on kit alone.
>Uther
winrate is fine
>Anub
Cacoon meme carrying shitters
>Malthael
he literally just got some heavy nerfs and his winrate went up. It will take some time to adjust to him.
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>>181465876
Medivh doesnt make half the roster obsolete.
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>>181465876
>he literally just got some heavy nerfs and his winrate went up. It will take some time to adjust to him.
The problem is that they actually buffed him, idiots keep stacking on him and he gets more armor now.

>>181466017
I don't think you understand what he said.
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>>181466017
On paper he does, in practice it's more complicated. Genji is the same.
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hey guys i just started playing
apparently i got tracer for free for owning overwatch.
is it random what overwatch hero you get or is tracer fixed?

also is she a good pick in general?
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>>181466249
It's fixed. Tracer for owning the collector's edition, or something.

>is she a good pick in general
Nope.
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>>181466249
it scans your win rates in ow and based on that you get the particular hero
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>>181466370
>Nope.
why not? she seems very different compared to other heroes
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>>181454960

Well don't pick block then you tard.
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>>181466573
Different doesn't mean good. Tracer is best when she has a team built to support her and you know what you are doing. High Risk for Medium Reward when there are characters that are Low Risk, High Reward or High Risk, High Reward
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>>181466573
Tracer has the lowest HP of all assassins. She needs someone like Tassadar to make her worth it, and the amount of point and click CC and nukes in this game make it hard for her to do well without heavy handholding or dumb enemies.
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>>181465425
>>181465028
>defending blizz
>being unable to search the blizz forums

Loving every laugh
defending blizz in 2017 - Im really loving every laugh
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>>181466757
>Tracer has the lowest HP of all assassins.

Jesus christ. Seriously? She has less than "Sneeze at her and she explodes" Vala?
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>>181466249
Overwatch gets you Tracer.
Starcraft 2 LotV gets you Artanis.
Warcraft Movie First Edition gets you Gul'dan.
Recruit a Friend gets you Sylvanas & Raynor.
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>>181466998
>anub, chromie, nova, tyrande, gaz
vs
>aba, kael, alarak, murky, zag

It hurts to play these QM meme games
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>>181464523
>>181465028
>>181465425
I pity the suckers who keep insisting on playing on Central US servers.
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>>181466998
>>181467167
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>>181466573
Sort of, I guess? Not sure how that would make her a good "general pick".

>no pve/waveclear
>very squishy
>easily shut down or denied
>difficult to play

Basically you'll be useless if you fail to make picks on enemy heroes.

>well I can't they're all tanky and muh team-

And this is why Tracer isn't a good versus-all hero, especially for newer players.
>>
>team just starts shitting on each other after a loss and talking about talent choices
>their talent choices are also equally bad

w e w
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>>181466573
Tracer is good when the enemy cannot do ALL of the following:
- Hit her with AAs
- Hit her with spells
- Stun her
- Dodge/run away from Pulse Bombs
She is worthless otherwise.
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>>181467423
The truly insecure will place their blame in others before themselves. It's a fact of life and this game, really.
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>>181466865
>laugh
doubt it
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>>181467242
t. western cuck
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>>181467167
It wasn't even a problem of getting matched against characters that countered ours, it's just that these fucking people ALWAYS chose to face the Raven Lord's curse instead of gathering tribute.
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>tfw no one has drawn a sexy Raven Lord yet

It pains me.
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>>181466934
In 1.0 Valla and Diablo were free for having D3.
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>>181466934
>Recruit a Friend gets you Sylvanas & Raynor.
waaait what?
so i could just make a fake account?
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>>181466880
Marginally but yes.
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>>181468269
only the guy invited gets the hero.
the inviter gets a portrait and mount.

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/game/recruit-a-friend/
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>>181467335
>And this is why Tracer isn't a good versus-all hero, especially for newer players.
why didnt blizz just give me genji if tracer is bad for newbs ;_;
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>all the "bad guys" have some clever banter whenever they get matched with the "good guys" from their realm
>best thing Arthas can muster is "S-SILENCE..."

Pretty disappointing desu
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>>181468792
You would've gotten D.Va if you're expecting to be given the shitter-friendly character.
>>
Post skin ideas
Malfarion, King of the Fairies
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>>181468792
tracer was the first OW hero in hots, that free hero cross-promotion is really old, anon
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>>181468858
The crown made him dumb.
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>Bully Abathur so hard with Tyrande eagle that he's forced to stay in fountain.
Is there any better feeling?
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>>181469083
SuperMurky, egg is phonebooth
Human Leoric
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>>181469684
Upvoting yourself as Malthael in post game screen because you dealt the most damag ewith your %health based damage ;^)
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>>181469083
Bridal Zagara
Groom Anub
>>
if i lose this next game im uninstalling...................
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>>181469717
>Human Leoric

He has as many human skins as he has spooky skeleton skins m8
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>>181469083
Bowling Cho'Gall. Cho's Hammer of Twilight turns in to a big bowling pin, and Rune Bomb/Dread Orb is bowling balls. Surging Fist does the sound of pins being struck, same with Rune Blast.

Treant Butcher. Holds vegetal versions of his weapons, and blood is water instead. Lamb Post is a tree with a vine linking victims. Furnace Blast is bramble-themed instead. Shouts "MUST DRINK" and "FERTILIZER"

Snail Abathur.
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>>181469890
He has the Vrykul and Space Leo skins but no Leoric when he was alive, thats what I meant by Human Leoric.

Basically vanilla leoric with fleshy bits instead of skeleton.
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>>181469083
Falstad, except he's a bird and his gryphon is a man.
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I want to spunk inside the spunky lesbian's butt.
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>>181469083
Lightlord Ragnaros since the concept already exists thanks to Hearthstone. I was suprised to find out that wasn't already a skin for him.
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>>181470481
Of course that's what you meant, now I feel retarded.
Now I kinda want this too.
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How do you play this hero
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>>181470481
Its weird too, since he has a human model (at least from the waist up) from his launch cinematic. He was briefly alive during it.
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>>181471217
poke with lightning
root people
dont just skill earthquake every round
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>>181469083
stripper valeera
>>
>31s estimated wait
>15 seconds in
>game found
fuckin ded game
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>>181471525
succubus Kerrigan
With bondage gear
>runs around with a ballgag and blindfold
>maelstrom and she floats around with armbinders
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>>181471839
She already has a Succubus skin. Based on the Warcraft succubus.
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How does Olaf know donuts and lasagna?
I never played TLV, are they time travelers or something?
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>>181438923
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>>181469083
Now that we've opened the floodgaytes, I'd like to see DEEPDARKFANTASY skins.
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>>181472310
>Lost Vikings
>In charge of not getting lost
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>>181472310
Other heroes in the nexus told them about donuts in breaktime.
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>>181438923

Rafaam. The Supreme Archaeologist.
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>>181472320
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>>181438923
Overmind for the gimmicky hero
Mengsk because we need his sexy accent in the nexus.
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>>181472156
yeah but
>without BDSM gear
death moans and struggling sounds are all I need
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>>181472320
what would his kit even be? Does random at random random based on random?
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>>181473353
and you have to pay to have a chance at getting something good
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>>181473353
He has a 40 talent cards deck. He draws 4 of them at every talent levels and pick one.
>>
I know TLV is a bad pick on 2 lane maps, but I'm still practicing him in QM. How should I split them up?
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>>181474157
*30
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>>181469684
Watching him die.
>>
Does the amount of exp needed to increase in player level increase exponentially with level? Or is it a flat number like overwatch
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>>181474281
Dont, keep all 3 in one lane as your teams 4 mans the other. Split them when your team goes to do the objective or push that lane hard.
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>>181474536
Player level only goes up with hero level and hero level eventually flattens out to about 1.2 mil xp per level around lv 8-10.
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>>181474436
delete

do not bully our glorious overlord abathur
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>>181474436
Yeah I agree, Abathur should come out of Q faster so he can dodge the laser
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>>181473353
>trait is open pack instead of talent and has 10 mana
>can get common, rare, epic or legendary (card) he can play for a cost of 1-10 mana
>the chance at getting high rarity is shit and his best skills are locked behind legendaries, which he can have a chance at not getting any at all whole game
>skill 1 is play a card, based on rarity of talent
>skill 2 is buy pack, every 10 globes collected give him an ability to open another pack and replace his latest talents
>skill 3 is end turn, he loses all bonuses from his latest picked cards and refreshes his mana
>ultimate 1 is mulligan, he can choose to replace selected cards for a chance at better ones everytime he has an option to buy and draw from leveling
>ultimate 2 is rope, he can wait for 20 seconds after he's exhausted all his cards and he keeps the bonuses from the previous turn after it ends
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>>181474436
>Abathur on Tomb
Please tell me this was quick match.
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>>181474682
>Player level only goes up with hero level
oh, that wasn't very clear from the client. Thanks!
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>>181475510
he can also hold up to 10 cards, getting any more that would go over the limit damages yourself to punish you for hogging up good cards
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>>181475784
It's easy to tell when it's QM. For this one the teams are matched like this

Abathur - Tyrande
Azmodan - Murky
Gul'dan - Valla
Varian or Dehaka - Artanis
Varian or Dehaka - Samuro This one is because it didn't find the same class at similiar MMR queuing
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>>181474436
>Abathur on Tomb
>Against Artanis and Tyrande
After a certain point I would have just stayed in fountain.
>>
Roll 20 picked the meme pyrobast on KT vs team with 4 heroes who can dodge it by themselves
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>>181476330
Phoenix is basically a shit Hyperion though. Pyroblast is a great way to initiate a disengage while also doing a massive poke.
>>
>queue for ranked
>go through picks
>game starts
>sup "hey im tripping acid, hope i play well, lol"
>dps "fucking 500ms lag", drops 10 times during game
>we lose
Thanks for the queue
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>>181477586

>dropping acid
>playing vidya
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>>181470481
was leoric a good or bad guy?
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>>181477841

>if you cant carry on meth you'll never be good at video games
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>>181477907

As he appeared in the Diablo games, a bad guy.

His lore is basically that he was a pretty good king, then Diablo got his evil on Leoric's advisers and slowly influenced Leoric to think that everybody around him was trying to betray him, driving Leoric mad to the point of executing his wife and servants and citizens for treachery. By the time the Diablo games take place he'd long been killed by his knights, but Diablo kept resurrecting him as the Skeleton King.

So he was a good guy driven to homicidal insanity by satan who had to put down for everyone's sake and then revived as a still insane skellybro (hence EVERYONE SHALL SUFFER AS I HAVE).
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>>181478213
Diablo originally planned to use Leoric as his host, but Leoric proved so strong willed that all that came of it was him going mad, so Big D went for his youngest son instead.
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>>181478213
thanks for the well written short summary.
human leoric sound nice
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>>181478213
Wasn't he being primed to be the next host for Diablo in D1 but then we fucked it up?
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Can somebody please post that autism chart with HotS characters? I forgot to save it last time I saw it.
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>>181478762
this one?
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>>181478708
He was already dead.
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>>181439127
Raynor is a rebel fringe world fucked, and typhus isn't exactly regulation either. Morales is a medical though, which requires some self discipline
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>>181478885
kek
That's the one, thanks friend.
>>
>Towers
>Getting wrecked hard
>Core down to 4 and they're bossing
>They're still over 20
>End up winning
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>>181439127
>>181478969
Marines are 99% drugged up roided out prisoners / convicts after Mengsk takes over.

They don't give a damn about hygiene unless it's part of protocol.
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>>181479173
Comebacks are real.
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>>181478885
>Inappropriate response or no response to sound
kek
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>>181438923
Jaraxxus.
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>>181479173
Sometimes all it takes is one objective to win the game. It's bullshit sometimes.
>>
>malthael most popular hero
>malthael most banned hero
>malthael highest winrate hero
>now malthael also a top tier competitive pick

WHEN IS IT ENOUGH BLIZZ
WHEN ARE YOU GONNA NERF THIS PIECE OF SHIT INTO THE FUCKING GROUND
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>>181479683
>LOOKS LIKE YER ENEMIES
>ALL
>PAID
>UP
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>>181480128
And there are STILL malthael players picking Last Rites - it is beyond me why you would, the situations in which it COULD be useful are so rare, you might aswell take the other one for more AoE and heal.
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>>181438923

Kel'thuzad, Overmind as a Core Replacement hero (think a purely offensive Abathur), Rory Swann or a named Firebat. Actually, give me the Firebat.
>>
>>181479683
QM mentality.
>we dont have to play good! we just wait for the enemy to fuck up once and its gg!
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>>181480216
I'm actually starting to consider start playing unranked if I continue getting teams who keep letting this kind of stuff happen.
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>>181468214
What does he actually look like? Is he the giant bird monster from the Cursed Hollow loading screen, or is that just a representation of the curse and his true form is like a bootleg Medivh: a mage/noble in bird-inspired clothes?
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>>181477931
but anon kun, meth makes you great at video games...
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>>181440424

>Uther firstpick heals

I'll never understand this. Uther was mana thirsty as fuck BEFORE the rework, now without Conjurer's Pursuit he has no reliable means to sustain his mana pool unless he wants to put himself clear out the fuck in front as a goddamn healer. Sure, his heals are big bombs but you can literally play around this with poke damage (which he has no reliable means to recover from) against 2 targets. Whoever he doesn't heal is immediately your kill target and there's fuckall he can do about it. People sing Uther's praises but I honestly just don't see it and this is coming from someone that LOVED pre-rework Uther.
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>stitches has visible nipple bumps in summer skin
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>>181480601
>now without Conjurer's Pursuit
Wave of Light wants to talk with you.
He is better than ever now, especially since you dont have to mindlessly run from lane to lane to catch the regen globes.
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>>181480403
No.
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>>181444237


Nigger if you can't reliably finish it by 10 against the enemy comp you don't take it, because you WILL NOT finish it otherwise. The key is to play aggressive as fuck early on -OR- to watch for teammates to stun/snare an enemy hero and follow up with a Sphere'd Flamestrike/Lapse/Bomb combo.
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>>181480636
>Stitches has visible exposed pepperoni nips in every other skin.
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>>181480601
Do you guys seriously have issues using the hammer talent? I don't know what elo you're at where teamfights are constant, but I've had great success using it to fill my mana between fights by just whacking on minions, walls, or objectives.
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>>181478885
>Inappropriate attachment to objects

Who is that?
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>bilion fucking heroes in the roster
>nah lemme just play my favorite 2
bois how do i leave my comfort zone
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>>181480601
It's his trait mate.
W quest at 1 makes it so he has practically no cooldown with his W, and almost no cost as the game goes on.
But even if you're only hitting it every so often that's 25% damage reduction for 2 seconds (3 once the quest is complete) after any heal, effectively giving himself and his allies a fuckton more health.
With GoAK it's 50% DR.

Uther is first pick because either your opponent gets proper fucked by not picking around him, or they pick around him by not taking stuns/roots, which enables far more greedy heroes for your team.
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>>181458418

Redhead Li Ming.
Purifier Artanis.
Crown Prince Arthas.

Alternate to Arthas: Sulfuron Uther.
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>>181480854
that's not nearly as lewd tho
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>>181481029
name me those 2
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>>181481003
ESSENCE
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>>181481029
Learn different strategies and how to most effectively play different maps.

>>181480923
Pros only take the hammer talent when they are off-healer. As a result no one takes the hammer talent unless they're off-healer.
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>>181458418
default love goddess
default sentinel lunara
default medic uther

giv nelf gf pls
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>>181481029
Pick random low level shit for the free lootboxes.
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>>181481184
ZulJin and Zagara
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>>181465807

>cocoon
>easily won teamfights

If Cocoon were any easier to break, it'd be a hymen at it's first frat party.
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Bad day for QM it seems
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>>181481052
Not that Anon but I always pick the Holy Light quest, is W quest significantly better?
How many people do you have to hit with it each time for it to pay off?
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>>181481302
>Zul'jin
Practice Valla, Greymane, and Varian if you want to get ballsy.
>Zagat
Use the voice line glitch to make literally any other specialist spam COME TO MAMA.
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got this from a common chest without rerolling

do i reroll ? xddd
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>>181481303
I love when people bitch about it in QM, yes let me take that cocoon, they have 3 AoE heavy enemies, a strong heal and my guys cant even press A click

>>181481486
60
either deal damage or heal with it, fuck easy to complete
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>>181481419
>playing worse bw
>1440p
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>>181481604
Yeah sure does suck.
Insight Kharazim is busted for output by the way
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>>181481486
Q quest is pretty much only there for self-sustain and super long range poke with holy shock. It's what I consider if my team has no bruiser or the enemy team seems stupid enough to try to stun chain me.
W quest is significantly better as a solo-healer uther by miles. As in if you don't take it as solo-healer uther, you're probably trolling your team. If you are damaged, you only need to hit two allies, two enemies, or one ally and one enemy to effectively get 25% CDR and half the mana cost.
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>>181478708
yeah Leoric was Diablo main target, but the big D give up Leoric was too much, the poor skeleton king had a hard life
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elves are for ____
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>>181478708


Nah we didn't fuck it up, he managed to actually resist Diablo long enough for D to say fuck it and go after his younger son instead.
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>>181481720
>lucio's passive healing is too strong!
>uther, kharazim, brightwing, soon to be stukov exist
>lucio has literally no other use other than speed and heal, better neuter him
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Here my suggestions how to fix broken Genji and Anub

Genji
>E shouldn't go over terrain, he will stop when colliding a wall
>You get reset on E only if you kill someone with it, no 2 seconds window

Anub
>Remove rewind and replace it with something like autoattacks applying 5x stacking 10% slow or something
>Reduce the range of cocoon, or make it a skillshot, right now it's too ridiculous how far you can use this cocoon just by clicking it on someone
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>>181481817
>tranny face
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>>181481720
Every time I pick Insight I just feel bad about not being able to plow through mercs by myself.
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>play raynor
>there's a tracer on my team
>she can move while shooting, chase anyone, and has a better heal than I do if she talents for it
WHY EVEN LIVE
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>log in
>some guy in general chat trying to get people to join a voice server with him
>"just give me 5 minutes, i'll blow your mind. i can prove that all of written history is a lie."
>talks about how jesus and satan are the same person
>his definitive proof that history is fake is talking about how there are chicken bones in old caves in england that shouldnt be there, and that there are chickens depicted in the egyptian pyramids (what this proves i dont know)
>"stonehenge has been secretly moved and replaced multiple times, as recently as the mid to late 1900's"
>"NASA doesnt have video footage of the first moon landing"
>"i am 34 years old"
>his name is bcstoner
honestly sometimes reading chat is as fun as playing the game. those are just a few gems, he's still going on about in in general chat now.
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>>181481996
>Also, she has a nice butt
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>>181482067
Hope it wasn't Skype, otherwise your butthole is gonna be tender.
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>>181482067
You can find people with schizophrenia literally anywhere on the Internet, dude.
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>>181481184
>>181481218
>>181481297
What if im lvl 600+ and in masters ?
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>>181482191
agreed
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>>181482241
no i never joined voice chat. this is how he was trying to convince people in general chat to join and listen to him.
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>>181481898
>remove dodge
>remove rewind
That's it.
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>>181481817
>Elfes are for

being outperformed and replaced by some blue alien without mouth
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fuck yes just pulled abathur announcer
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>>181482462

>replaced
>Zeratul came first

First gen stealth melee assassin is still best gen stealth melee assassin.
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>>181481996
>at the same time, if Tracer gets anywhere near Raynor he will rip her a new asshole
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>>181482371
How the fuck are you level 600+ only playing two heroes?
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>>181482371
Then look at your winrates on different maps and adjust your picks based on which of your comfort picks is fucking you most.
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>nobody on team helps me keep butcher from getting full stacks
>they try to 1v1 him once he's loaded
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>>181480227
I've taken last rites exactly once vs Cho'Gall, just cause the fucker will can actually be pretty hard to finish off especially if he surging fist+dashes away
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>>181482373
Tracer has no ass
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>>181458418

White/Purple Space Lord Leoric
Pink Deputy Valla
Red or Yellow/Green Striker Li-Ming
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>>181482550
because i did play all heroes for easy gold but now not even touching a good 80% of them
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>>181481996
>and has a better heal than I do if she talents for it
Given that talent is the inferior lv 20 pick, not that big a deal.
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>>181482995
>butcher is low health
>teammate facetanks his brand
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>>181483594

>random a stunless hero
>butcher constantly dives on our healer
>teammates ignore butcher
>i desperately try to drive him back with damage
>healer just facetanks his brand
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>>181483594
Butcher is probably the closest I can get to reliving my Dota days of popping Satanic and manfighting teams to death.

Brand is great.
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wowie w-build falstad on hanamura is REALLY FUKIN GOOD
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>>181483938

>going for Malthael second instead of Thrall
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>>181483938
>solarmemex
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>>181483938
Funny you say that, because IMO Butcher is the closest thing this game has to a Dota pre-6.82 mostly carry.

>has to bop creeps for a while to become useful
>loses progress if he dies
>once he hits critical, he rapes everything and does hideous amounts of DPS
>abilities are braindead easy to use
>has crazy strong CC

That said, I don't have any problem with Butcher because he's a lot more counterable than shit like Slark or a level 25 LC. I don't miss playing against that kind of shit in Dota.
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>>181484541
>LC hard to counter

LC is the most trash hero in dota, especially as a carry. There are so many skills to render her duel useless and without it she doesn't even have a proper way to stick on someone

Slark is bullshit tho
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>>181483058
Only useful for 6 levels until he gets molten block, though
although i guess you still have value in preventing him from picking the best talent at that tier
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>>181483594
>Increases Butcher's Brand's healing from 75% to 100% of your Basic Attack damage. While facing the branded enemy, your Movement Speed is increased by 20%.
Unless you have a stun you aren't getting away from him.
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>>181485098

Running away already makes him miss out some autoattacks since he has to move, which already may save your ass (especially if he is slowed)
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>>181484146
if he branded thrall he would just root + walk away
malth is the one who ate Lamb so he's the one you can actually get reliable healing off of
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>>181483594
Anybody have the webm of two butchers just hitting each other with brands?
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>>181484943
>she doesn't even have a proper way to stick on someone
>can cleanse roots and slows
>has a 7 second movespeed buff
>has high base movespeed
what did he mean by this?
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>>181485194
He has a slow and stun too you know.
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>>181485201

Rewatched and you're right. Thought the first time Lamb caught Thrall too.
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>>181485226
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>>181484146
My only mistake was going for Thrall at all instead of hiding behind Valla and letting her clean up. Thrall would just kite me while Malth spooks me from behind. Given that the post didn't even get him, I really doubt I would've gotten anyone else after the Tyrande if I went for Thrall.

>>181484541
Yeah, it's part of the reason I really like Butcher and a lot of the heroes that have quests that requirement time/commitment like the Seasoned Marksmen heroes, Nazeebo, Azmodan, half the support cast, etc. If the quest isn't shit, then I don't feel bad about taking a step back and working on them a bit because it feels like it's something I can actively work on to suck less at the next teamfight. Was pretty disappointed most of the regen globe quests were shit because of that.

>I don't miss playing against that kind of shit in Dota.
I miss it a bit. There are a lot of differences that I miss. But I can't really bring myself to go back after burning out so hard on Valve's time-limited compendium achievement shit. HotS' simpler nature lets me not stress out as much so I actually enjoy playing it more.

>LC
>uncounterable
LC was never a problem - let alone "uncounterable" - when I quit around 6.86 (dotabuff WR was like 46% at the time). She's a snowballing ganker, and if you were losing to her badly because she was uncounterable, you had bigger problems than an enemy LC.
And pubs loved to jungle her so just harassing her and stealing her jungle guaranteed a 30 minute blink. Playing against enemy LCs was a good time.
And even if she wasn't retarded and stayed out of the jungle, you just need to deny her the duel damage with cc and blinds and burn her mana while she tries to farm in lane. Unless something changed with 7.00, I really doubt she was ever much of a problem if you actually drafted/built to deal with her.
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>>181485314
usually he uses his stun to go in and THEN brands somebody

and even with the movespeed + slow, walking away from him means he gets fewer attacks and less healing and thus helps your teammates burst him down
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>>181485628

>solarpletex's FW
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>>181485628
How is that genji so shit?
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i fucking miss when this game was actually good. after coming back from a 5 month hiatus i can confirm this game is fucking garbage in its current state. the only reason people play it is for the gambling lootboxes.

>gay lootbox system rng you cant even buy skins you like anymore, degraded the value of buying skins and no master skins
>incrediblly OP powercreep do-it-all champs in the form of malthael, anub, genji, and d.va (these 2 especially blizzard should know movement speed is the most overpowered thing in mobas by now)
>degradation of generally good tanks like etc and muradin in favor of team-comp/map specific tanks
>horrible meta of double tank and or double support
>insanely rewarding, fun, and complex characters like zeratul or tlv pushed out of the meta by overpowered bullshit like genji because of P U R E powercreep
>stupid and boring maps like bhb, hanamura, GoT, haunted memes still in the game

i really want to love this game again this shit just isn't fucking fun im not giving blizzard any more shekels for fucking over this game with retarded overwatch champions

fucking DEBATE ME where am i wrong
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>>181485785
I think you underestimate how much damage his AA does.
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>>181485839
is this you
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>>181485839
Hate to break it to you but Anub's been in the game for a pretty long time.
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>>181485839
you can buy skins
buy boxes, receive shards, buy skins with shards

also: how is it that there are op powercreep do-it-all champs but the meta favors map specific tanks?
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Hi, I'm new from Overwatch and just started playing.

How do you unlock the AC-130?
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>>181485839
>wah my favourite tanks are worthless
>I hate this double tank meta
Make up your mind.
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>>181485628
Did anyone ever create an infinite of this if possible? I could take a shot at it if not
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>>181485839
>>horrible meta of double tank and or double support
Why is it horrible?
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>>181485938
the point is if you move away and not tank it
he will get 1 less auto on you maybe 2 depending on situation
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>>181486669

Because nobody dies until lategame and whoever dies first gets snowballed on near infinitely. First Blood can literally decide games.
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>>181487346
>First Blood can literally decide games.
You must be thinking of LoL.

HotS is one of the most rubber-band-y games out there right now even in snowball maps like BHB and Tombs.
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>>181487160
If you don't have a stun or root you are pretty much guaranteed to have him wipe your team if he gets his stacks. "lol just walk away from him" will not save you. Getting mad at your teammates wont change that. That is just how it is.
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>>181486024
no actually this is pure bullshit. this is not buying skins this is like going into mcdonalds to buy a cheeseburger and instead of being able to directly purchase a cheeseburger you have to fork out money than normal to buy a happymeal of a random assortment of foods and hopefully either get what you want or you can turn in copies of food you already got for tickets and hopefully get enough tickets to finally buy a fucking cheeseburger over time. i just want a fucking cheeseburger. i dont want salads or chicken wraps. there is no guarantee that i will be able to purchase the skin i want while spending a reasonable amount of money. it's random. you could pay upwards of 50 dollars to get enough copies to buy a skin and i dont have unlimited gold in the game to re-roll all the time because i have to buy champions with that gold as well. this is a jewish tactic to make more money and you should not support it. it is also literally gambling.

>>181486496
>>181486669

double tank/double support is indicative of balance problems within your game. tanks specifically. either your damage characters are doing so much damage that it's more efficient to take 2 tanks and protect the damage character(s) so they can kill the entire team by themselves, or the tanks can deal so much damage and take so much AND OR have good cc all at the same time that just taking an additional tank outweighs a pure damage character. this gets even worse when you have guys like dehaka that have good damage, good CC and also global presence.

ideally in a game you have 1 tank to absorb damage, engage, get in the way, and protect people. when you have 2 it starts to get a little ridiculous and it pushes out squishier champs and forces more bruiser type characters into the meta or double supports to make your team just unkillable.
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>>181487974
>Food analogies

oh boy here we go again
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>>181487547

Losing either a tank or a support in the two tank two support meta causes you to immediately be put on your heels. At which point the enemy team - who didn't lose a hero - can take camps with impunity because you can't teamfight while being a man down- or they can push a keep with impunity because you can't teamfight while being a man down - or they can liesurely BOSS even at low level becuase, you guessed it, you can't teamfight while being a man down.

Any of the above gets them more XP, more progress towards core and greater map control that once they have, they can capitalize on to increase their level lead even more.

This meta by it's very nature enables snowballing on a level that has never been seen before.
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>>181488085
First Blood is only like, 3 minions' worth of exp.
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>>181488085

Anon, go back and read the post you just replied to.

And then reread it.

Keep rereading it until you understand it.
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>>181487547
he's saying first blood decides games because first blood happens at like 13 minutes
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>>181488085
meant for >>181488207
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>>181487974
>double tank/double support is indicative of balance problems within your game.
No, that is balanced. It's just not 3 assasins every game balanced. If tanks were actually better than assasins you would have 4 tanks and 1 support, if not 5 tanks

HotS doesn't have to follow other mobas models for balancing
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>>181488514


Name an assassin that Artanis can't kill or reliably drive off with pressure.

Now think of one that Arthas or Anub'arak can't kill or 100% lock down for a team-gangrape.

Notice how with just two of the three heroes I named, you've hardcountered nearly every assassin in the game either through sheer damage output (Artanis) or hard lockdown that allows the team to burst someone into the ground (Artanis/Anub'arak).

Now put two of those three heroes above on the same team and give them Uther, Brightwing and literally any 5th.
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>>181487974
your complaint was that you can't buy skins, not that you can't buy skins for a reasonable amount of money
make up your mind, please
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>>181488704

Fuck me. Arthas/Anub'arak.
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>>181487760
>butcher charges at someone
>put lurking arm under them
>butcher cant brand them
>he gets burst down
Now that the saltiness went away stukov actually sounds pretty fun.
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>>181488704
Ok, let me blow your mind, don't read if you have mental health problems

Think if you gave that solo assasin a team of 4 other players
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>>181480439
I was thinking more of a Anthro Birb ala BoTW
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>>181488704
As an Artanis main, I hate fighting tanks because I have to wait until lv 16 to be able to do shit against them and even then, any assassin with an escape or ranged AA will fuck me up because the enemy tank blocked my prism that was meant for the assassin.

It's not about a 1v1 matchup, it's about a team.

Plus, as you hinted with your Uther comment, the Assassin doesn't provide all the cc or bodyblocking, their teammates do. So saying "Oh yeah, Artanis/Arthas can do a lot of shit if you let them whack you" is kind of a disingenuous argument. I can do a lot of shit 1v1 but that doesn't mean I'm going to have a fun time in a teamfight because there are enemies to deal with.

If we were talking about Overwatch, you'd have more of a point because 1v1 matchups might be more of a significant factor, but not in HotS.
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>>181488514
no this is not balance. when the tanks become better than the damage characters in every way (more hp, more damage over time, defensive resources, cc) the damage characters quickly serve no purpose anymore. or at least it pushes out a lot of the damage characters from viability and you can only choose a select few. it forces powercreep onto the damage characters to make them so absurdly good so they can survive and beat down the tanks over time so you get shit like genji and malth to deal with the problem of tanks.


>>181488786
it's both issues compounded on top of eachother. i can't buy the skin i want directly and i have to spend a lot of money to -potentially- get it.
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>>181489335
>gay lootbox system rng you cant even buy skins you like anymore, degraded the value of buying skins and no master skins
so this is wrong, is what you're saying
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>>181485839
>>gay lootbox system rng you cant even buy skins you like anymore, degraded the value of buying skins and no master skins
Buying skins was gay and retarded and you were gay and retarded if you bought them. Nobody cares about you spending 15$ to show your autistic dedication for a character that might get nerfed to uselessness. Master skins looked like shit on half the roster.
>>incrediblly OP powercreep do-it-all champs in the form of malthael, anub, genji, and d.va (these 2 especially blizzard should know movement speed is the most overpowered thing in mobas by now)
Play Uther and shit on them with 2 stuns. Uther is always the answer.
>>degradation of generally good tanks like etc and muradin in favor of team-comp/map specific tanks
Having only 3 good tanks was cancer.
>>horrible meta of double tank and or double support
Good thing they recently released tank killers and divers like Malth and Genji, eh?
>>insanely rewarding, fun, and complex characters like zeratul or tlv pushed out of the meta by overpowered bullshit like genji because of P U R E powercreep
What Zeratul is still really good and still the best stealth assassin. Void Prison makes sure he stays relevant.
>>stupid and boring maps like bhb, hanamura, GoT, haunted memes still in the game
git gud
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>>181489335
So what is your idea of balance?
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>>181489335
Just a FYI, the shop rotates available items for direct purchase every week. So if you don't have shards, there is always a gem option when it comes up.
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>>181489335
>it's both issues compounded on top of eachother. i can't buy the skin i want directly and i have to spend a lot of money to -potentially- get it.

You are like 3 months late with this shit.
Besides it's retarded how apparently people who had like 2 years to buy a skin never did it, but now that you can't buy it directly with cash then suddenly you MUST HAVE IT NOW.
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>>181489217

Artanis can force an assassin off a healer with Prism or with a 3-strike Followthrough Twin Blades with the L1 quest. Once he gets Titan Killer on top of that and later the 20 Overload redux talent, Artanis can actually stand up to Butcher or Malthael 1v1. I've actually killed Butcher through Brand with all of the above + Suppression Pulse and still had enough left in the tank to not have to disengage from the teamfight.

Arthas shuts down melee assassins HARD and with Howling Blast quest he can set up perfect rape on any ranged other than Chromie. If he goes full root build melee assassins CANNOT close on his backline without condemning themselves.

Anub'arak is a God of Crowd Control at range and with Cocoon at melee. Needs no explanation.

Any two of these guys on the same team alone can create an impervious front line that can't be breached even with a suicide dive.
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>Enemy gets Varian
>Goes Taunt/Smash
>Win without much effort
>Team gets Varian
>Goes Twin blade
>Lose

I fucking hate how devastating he is without any real weakness besides being stupid on your talent picks. QM makes it even more of a living hell too.
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D.Va's not considered a warrior by matchmaking?

I get Sonya, but come on, D.Va's displacement and two health bars is more than enough of a tank for QM.
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I have 30 k gold. Do I just get malth because he's the best possible hero on BOE?
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>>181489998

Key to beating blades Varian is locking him down and pummeling him into dust.

Any root + ranged damage combo (e.g Chromie combo, Kael combo) guarantees his death.

Heavy stuns and repeatable blinds are also a direct counter to him.

The key is to just not shove your face into the blender or slow down his healing enough to make it easy to outdamage. Arthas excels at this with his full root build. Blades Varian is literally a duelist. Gangrape him.
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>>181490281
Going blade is almost always terrible unless the enemy is dumb enough to keep fighting you. I really wish people would stop picking it.
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>>181490040
I only recently learned that butcher is classed as assassin and not warrior. I might be retarded.
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>>181490592
>I really wish people would stop picking it.
BUT VARIAN IS SO OP AT DPS MAN
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>>181490224
malth is the best hero in the game flat out.

See if he gets anymore balance changes on Stukov PTR though
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>>181489394
how is what i said wrong? if you want to get autistic yes technically you can buy skins. but i cannot purchase the ones i want directly with my money. it's hidden behind rng to milk more money out of people on average.

>>181489536
my idea of balance is something in the realm of world of warcraft PvE in that your damage characters excel at doing the damage, your tanks absorb the damage and protect your damage characters, and your healers sustain the fights and offer utility. it's very simple. it gets more complicated when you add more and more and more characters to the game though which is what always happens to any game when you add characters all the time. you get a powercreep problem where some characters just get outshined and can't really be played. you get tanks like varian with 2 charges of protect who have high hp and deal decent damage and cc and shit like genji that can essentially heal himself by avoiding damage and run around doing lots of damage AND sick mobility. there's no risk/reward of having low hp and doing more damage anymore when your high HP beefy characters can deal almost as much damage as the squishier damage characters and your damage characters can negate damage and can play super aggressive with lots of mobility options to chase AND escape.

>>181489683
i said i took a 5 month break so yea this is new to me. also there are new skins that i want that i can not get thru the boxes and i don't have the time to get them f2p i just want to give blizzard some money for what i want it's that simple. is this wrong to want to do?
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>>181490831
I KNOW MAN JUST LIKE NOVA'S OP INVISIBILITY AND TRIPLE TAP!
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>>181491025
>you can't even buy skins you like any more
>you can buy skins
>where am i wrong
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>>181491096
Fuck Triple Tap Novas. Had to break my back trying to carry one in a 30 minute game.

Was so fucking useless because they would exclusively use it on the enemy Stitches or the X-Strike Genji. And if they fired on anyone else, they get cucked by Anub beetles anyway.
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>>181489998
>>181490281
When I pick Varian, I invariably go for C.Smash. Not because I think it is OP or anything. I just like the HAAAAUUUGHHH! noise that he makes.

I really don't know why anyone would ever pick Twin Blades or Taunt when they could have HAAAAUUUGHHH! instead.
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>>181491359
His beetles count as heroes for the purposes of blocking skillshots?
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>playing Angry Meat Man
>see Tracer on enemy team blow her recall cooldown

EEEEHHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH...
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>>181491379
I like Smash because of the scream too, but also because it lets me delete people. Taunt is nice and probably a better pick in general but more of a "your teammates aren't fucking useless" kind of ult.
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>>181491427
They don't? I swear they did that game.

Maybe they just grazed Anub's shield instead? What I do know is, a 50 HP Valla got away by herself even though Nova fired all three shots and it didn't seem like Anub did any blocking.
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>>181491379
Taunt is nice because it locks down the enemy giving time for your team to blow them up. Smash is nice because it pretty much almost deletes heroes. Only issue with Smash I seen more people survive it then Taunt due to not being stunned. giving them the chance to run away. Blade hardly gives you leverage since most fights don't last long. The only benefit is you can solo bosses.
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>>181491443
>no face when there is no porn of butcher pounding tracer while she struggles against the lamb chain.
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Ugh. Playing characters like Tracer or Illidan is so frustrating because if you're losing, you're losing HARD with them.

I feel there are certain characters that are either at 0 deaths or 6 deaths. No in between.
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>>181491638
Valla probably took Gloom and Anub's natural shield was probably enough to leave him alive.
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>>181491803
Tracer you can't really recover at least with Illidan you can farm up your damage which can help turn the tide. Still you might die more often then you should.
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>>181491226
i guess you can directly buy legendary cards in hearthstone too technically. i guess you can technically fix your car if every time you brought it to the mechanics or do try to fix it yourself something else would break it's still physically able to be fixed. i guess technically you can also fall through the floor of your house when you are walking around it.

are you autistic? or do you just a paid blizzard shill?
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>>181492187
you asked where you were wrong
you were wrong right there
what's the problem?
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>>181491025
>wow pve
Tanks deal almost as much damage as DPS
Healers can deal almost as much damage as tanks if they stop healing
DPS and tanks can heal themselves, especially tanks

It would be hard to make tanks in a moba without giving them tools to make people fuck off, be it damage or the threat of CC. Healers are for the most part utility + healing but some of them do bring damage at the cost of utility or healing. DPS all a bit all over the place with some focused more on damage while others have an easier time suriving but deal less damage. Then there are specialist who are usually lesser damage dealers but bring something unique

Basically there is nothing wrong with double tank or support comps. At most it's a problem of a few heroes being too strong or other heroes being too weak
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just played with an auriel who did not know they had a D ability
thoughts /vg/
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>>181492187
You can buy featured skins with gems
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>>181492762
so how much healing did the ydo
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>>181492762
So many of them are idiots who don't even experiment with try mode.
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>>181492831
less than tassadar only bubbling himself while tassadar only laned. sub 15k i think
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>>181492187
Regardless of your autistic perception on what constitutes being able to buy a skin
Its still better than the old system in which nobody bought skins because they werent worth it and most were trash anyways. It just sounds like you got suckered into a giant ripoff.
Also it isnt RNG on whether or not you can buy shit with shards because you dont even need to pay for chests. You just play. And you get duplicates.
If your next argument is "hurrrr what if I dont get duplicates huh WHAT ABOUT THAT??"
Then congrats you're going to unlock everything anyways without having to pay for them.
You will get duplicates. You will get shards. You can unlock skins.
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>>181492572
>almost as much
I miss vengeance.

>>181492762
They walk among us.
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>Muted for telling a thrower to go fuck themselves
Blizzards games were a mistake.
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>>181492790
that's still random chance of what's going to be available for purchase i have to always keep my eye for when specific skins rotate into the sale

>>181492482
i wasnt wrong. that statement is actually true you can't buy skins with money. you can buy lootboxes and gems with money but not skins.
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>>181481893
Lucio can peel, and both of his ults are very strong.
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>>181491443
>playing Hammer Throwing Midget alongside Literally Satan in Spanish
>Satan checks Tracer into wall and suplexes her
>smash her stupid cockney grin with a hammer
>sit on her face
>mfw
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>>181493115
you didn't say with money
you said
>gay lootbox system rng you cant even buy skins you like anymore, degraded the value of buying skins and no master skins
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>>181437565
This game turned to shit when they nerfed overdrive falstad
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>>181493115
>you can't buy skins with money.
If youre gonna be a faggot like this why dont you try to start another argument with "you cant 1v1 Cho'gall"
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>>181493115
Oh no, you have to play the game more often than once a week to see what the sales are

Good thing you like the game enough to spend money on it so you play it a lot, right?
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>>181493163
Muradin announcer is the best thing that has happened since 2.0
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>>181492762
I think I had that very same Auriel. Of course her butt buddies blamed us. Despite the team telling her several times how to use it. She refused to use it costing us the game. I wish there were pop up for some heroes so they don't make themselves become useless.
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>Mathael farts in my general direction
>die
NICE GAME BLIZZDRONES!
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>>181493569
>he gets hit by the slowest skillshot in the entire game
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>>181493189
>you cant even buy skins you like anymore
so what else am i going to buy them with? rocks and sticks? i was referring to using real life fiat currency that is held in a bank account to purchase the skin with when i used the word "buy". as in going down to the gas station with a dollar and buying a pack of gum with legal currency. i cannot BUY a skin i have to BUY gay rng lootboxes that can potentially contain my skin or a duplicate which is then converted into shards.

>>181493262
no i dont play it a lot but if i play i wanna use a skin i want lol i literally just want to buy the skin for a fair price
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>>181493702
>i cannot BUY a skin
>>181491025
>yes technically you can buy skins
please stop waffling
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>>181493702
>i want lol i literally just want to buy the skin for a fair price
Youre so fucking deluded that you are unable to accept that Blizzard came up with a system which allows you to trade your time for value, because they want you to keep playing. If you play, you get shit, for the low low price of a small amount of your time.
AND YOU CAN STILL BUY SHIT WITH GEMS, WHICH COST MONEY
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>>181493664
Isn't dread orb slower?
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>>181493569
>Tracer is a counter to Malthael!
>get hit once by him
>half HP gone
nice
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>>181491025
You have no fucking comprehension of balance.

Wow's "holy trinity" introduces a shitton of problems for the games health in WoW alone. Extrapolated to a game that you're not fighting AI's in it falls apart quickly.

"Warriors/Tanks" exist to help enable their team to position safely, they're either very durable, or they have a lot of CC or they have various means of shutting down enemy damage.

"Healers" will never be able to sustain you through the ridiculous shit that they could in a PVE MMO; seriously go watch some fucking wow PVP for why we don't have that shit happen in this game. People in wow either need to burn out a healers mana, get enough fatigue stacks that they cant heal through shit anymore, or execute a perfect CC combo to 100-0 someone in wow. In hots supports are more utility oriented, while still existing to correct unforced errors; if you are capable of playing a game with zero errors you can get by without a support.

Assassins in hots have a wide range of shit they can do. Some are beasts at objectives, others are high skill cap divers. and to correct your stupid nonsense *no warriors exist that output as much as assassins* - if varian goes smash or twin blades, he is an assassin.

Sometimes a warrior will win a trade with an assassin in a 1v1, sometimes a warrior cant be anywhere near an assassin without getting absolutely fucking smashed.
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>>181492187
If you're going to bitch about something, don't be wrong about it.
Has nothing to do with shilling.

I can say
>cops are pigs and worthless lazy bums
and there's not much room to argue. But if I say
>cops are pigs and worthless lazy bums...because they don't show up unless I call 911, they should be patrolling all neighbourhoods 24/7.
and it's like "The fuck is this guy on?"

You complained that you can't do something in-game when in fact, you can. It's pretty cut and dry. When you're wrong, you either shut the fuck up or acknowledge that you were wrong, not double down on stupid. I suggest you shut the fuck up.
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>>181494286
>*no warriors exist that output as much as assassins*
not absolutely true
assassins generally have more damage but there are still warriors who can do pretty significant burst

artanis chrono sickness + laser is enough damage to kill many heroes outright
zarya hits fucking hard at full energy

diablo and muradin can both have significant amounts of burst with the right builds
mura with damage build and rewind can even 100-0 some heroes if they're stupid enough to be running around alone at level 20

plus sonya who is pretty much just a melee assassin
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>>181493845
technically through a roundabout way your money can go towards buying a skin but you arent purchasing a skin. there is no money to skin purchase. it's random how much money you have to spend to buy what you want. but i see i'm typing to an autistic person who does not understand using words in a general sense and you have to type everything you say and explain every word of every fuck you nigger bait this and qualify everything and cite your context for everything you ever say.

>>181493913
>>181494403

no i think you are the deluded one. i don't have infinite time my man i have things to do. i wish i could pull the skin through the random chance box of magic but it just doesn't happen and i'm not getting the shards any time soon. it DOES however benefit basement dwelling autists like you that do nothing but play this game and WILL unlock everything you ever want. do you seriously think hiding ITEMS YOU WANT TO PURCHASE behind a SLOT MACHINE OUTCOME is a good idea? i think you have been brainwashed by the jewish overlords my dude.

>>181494286
i didnt mean literally take WoW PvE balance currently and apply it to hots. i said like wow pve in the sense that every role has a clear purpose in the game and also the roles don't overlap with eachother. i cant speak to pve balance nowadays but when i played it was cut and dry classes and specs had certain roles. it sounds like WoW also has a powercreep problem tho. but if there is a tank contending with the top damage characters there is a problem. if there is a healer that can absorb more damage than a tank there is a problem.

it's fine if assassins are good at controlling area or being waveclear as long as they are damage roles and have a decent damage/hp ratio so that there is a risk/reward to using them. and sure the dmg of tanks dont contend for like gul'dan or anything but in fights they hold their own and force people away with tankiness + good damage.
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>>181494812
>artanis chrono sickness + laser is enough damage to kill many heroes outright

No. at level 20 laser does 400 (387 actually, but I'm rounding) damage per second, so even if they're in it for the full 8 second duration is still only 2400 damage. And warp sickness is only a 4 second slow.

To compare, cursed bullet on diablo will easily chunk for 2 to 3k and greymane can follow it up with alpha killer. Hell, quest completed double flamestrike does almost as much damage without someone needing to stand in it for 8 seconds.

>zarya hits fucking hard at full energy

A rather hard conditional to meet quite frequently, and even then she's still not putting out nearly as much damage as say Raynor, who will be attacking from further, critting, putting out ~2 attacks per second with giant killer and hyperion is still one of the best teamfight ults in the game.

>diablo

If you're able to smash things into walls twice in a row, it still only ends up being 30%+damage.

>mura with damage build and rewind can even 100-0 some heroes

"If you blow literally every cooldown twice plus a minute long CD you *might* be able to solo kill someone without them getting away". Compared to y'know, something that just shits fury all over things with a right click.


I'm sorry anon, you're not arguing numbers, you're arguing perceptions and feelings.
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>>181495508
>i don't have infinite time my man i have things to do.
Could
have
fooled
me.

Stop doubling down on stupid.
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>>181495508
so were you wrong when you said you couldn't buy skins or were you wrong when you said you could buy skins?
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i think MM tries to tell me something
and whats with connection, every fucking game people dropping like flies or never even get into a match
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>>181496432
>bot
what did he mean by this
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>>181496570
are you retarded?
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>>181496432
>bots
explain
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>>181496570
>>181496432
>>181496630

> never even get into a match
so we start with a AI teammate from the start

and that one aba who just hat the core and afk whole game
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>>181489174
That's also a possibility I'd be fine with, most of his sex appeal is his voice anyways
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>>181496591
Are you implying people bot this game and multiple of them landed in your matches on your team multiple times in a row, or are you implying that "leavers" and "bots" are two different things somehow?

>>181496716
>aba afk pls report
how new
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>>181480439
like The Shrieker from DD
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>>181495610
>>181495639
>doubling down on stupid

again with the autism. are you just missing the point or are you so focused on being correct and me being wrong about a bait statement you made that you're missing the over all point? so i buy a loot box that has a chance of either giving me what i want or a minor investment in an alternate currency. the jews have won i have to either buy more loot boxes or play over a period of weeks/months of daily play to get enough to purchase something. if i buy loot boxes it's up to chance whether or not i get enough alternate currency or i can get very lucky and pull the skin.

in what way am i BUYING a skin if i continually get a minor payout in an alternate currency that will eventually give me enough to buy the skin in said alternate currency? i love black niggers i am buying a mini slot machine that has a greater chance of giving me what i want the more i buy. i am NOT buying a skin by doing this. making it increasingly probable to get a skin by spending money is not the same as buying a skin. i'm buying a skin as much as i am buying a cheeseburger at mcdonalds by cashing in duplicate fries over time for tickets.
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>>181496860
people who say to report abathur for being afk are the cutest
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>>181496880
You spend 20 minutes writing a post I won't read because the quantity of text indicates taht you didn't take my advice of "Don't double down on stupid".

How many more times do I have to say it before you get it?
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>>181496860
aba literally can hat core and do nothing and he wont be kicked
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>>181496880
>in what way am i BUYING a skin
a barter system is still a system
secondary currencies are still currencies
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>>181496980
>>181496860
>tfw legit throwing games by going AFK on Abathur and watching one guy notice and get upset while the rest of the team attempts to explain how Abathur works
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Gee valeera, what it like dropping half a warriors hp in under 2 seconds from stealth?
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>>181497086
How can he though, if he doesn't collect exp, he gets booted, and if he's at spawn, those locusts aren't going to get exp for the first few minutes because they die at the T1 gate and don't get exp if they don't get a last hit.

Is there an exception for hatting the Core?
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>>181497206
valeera is fucking trash complete garbage bottom tier sewer SHIT what are you talking about
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>>181497206
>get jumped by Valeera because blind or ou
>manfight her instead of getting away from her but feed her infinite energy
>die
>omg valeera so op i couldn't do anything can't even run away nerf pls
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>>181496860
Aba might not be able to be kicked due to being able to sit still but you can still report them for afk/nonparticipating if they are not doing anything. I seen plenty of aba who don't soak or even hat anyone while still being inside the base. Just looking at their siege/exp gain should be tell you if they are afk.
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>>181497396
>>181497410
>Express annoyance
>GIT GUD IM A PLAT 5!

It's a anon message board.
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>>181497002
cool dude cya

>>181497104
no it's not a system. it's throwing lots of hurdles in the way of something you want to obtain to jew the most money out of you that they can. the skin is still technically obtainable if you spend a shitload of money but it isn't comparable to the old system where i just give the company a set amount of money for a certain product. that is called "buying a skin". i cannot "buy a skin" anymore. i have to buy other things and there is no set amount i have to spend to obtain the skin. i also obtain a bunch of other useless skins i dont want that i cannot convert into shards to use. if i could disenchant skins i would consider that system a valid comparison to the old system.
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>>181497463
>you can still report them for afk/nonparticipating
You CAN report them, it just does nothing. The only report category that results in punishment is Abusive Chat which leads to a silence. Maybe they'll use the reports against the guy when he tries to appeal the silence but again, that's only in the case of a silence.

It's basically like how Valve runs Dota 2 reports. Reporting does nothing but make you feel better. Nobody gets banned or anything like that for getting reported outside of Abusive Chat.
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>>181497696
>no it's not a system
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>>181497696
Stop doubling down on stupid.
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>>181497295
expection and his bugs will get siege damage for him
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>can't buy one or two skins I specifically want
>but have hundreds of free lootboxes thru play where I got several hundred dollars worth of value of skins from the previous price points
>have 3400 shards and bought the skins I wanted eventually through this roundabout wacky system

I guess you didn't want my money, Blizzard? Between this and buying the D3 Necromancer with a WoW token I don't know why Blizzard stopped wanting my leafy-greeny-spendy-money but okay.
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>>181497715
You are thinking more of League due their whole system being built around punishing toxic players. It matters way more if they hurt your feelings then admitting you are going to troll and feed the whole game while spamming emotes. Despite having so many ways to stop toxic players LoL has the most toxic player base I have ever seen in the gaming community.
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>>181497794
AGAIN with the autism

>>181497821
AGAIN what is your point what is wrong with my initial statements and supporting ideas of said statement? it's the autism of correcting me that i was "technically" wrong that's bothering you isnt it?
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>>181497206
Just walk away from her.
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>>181498271
Tokens just means that someone else paid for you basically, they still got money out of it.

Lootboxes are a loss though, I guess stimpack purchases might have gone up.
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How do I be a less shit Nova?
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>>181498438
u learn to play zeratul because he is superior in every way and not shit like nova
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>>181498438
Stop playing Nova and pick Zeratul who does her job better without being a burden to their team.
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>>181498508
>Nova will never be good
>Nova will never provide me the feeling of sneaking into enemy base and dropping a nuke like BW

feels bad
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>going for a slap Auriel build at it works
damn feels good
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>>181498271
First one's free.

Next time you want a skin but don't have enough shards, you'll have to wait or buy a shitton of lootboxes.
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has anyone even gotten legit banned before
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>>181498392
She used the shit combo
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>>181498569
>>181498562
>>181498508
What is it about her that's so bad? I've been noticing this a lot recently, that most people in games are less "you're a shit nova" and more "nova is shit".
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>>181498978
Because she is easily countered. she's worthless vs any big push fuckball, she may as well be dead.
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>>181498978
She can do exactly one thing, which is kill people. She can't waveclear, take bosses, siege enemy structures, anything. She can bribe enemy camps but its pretty mediocre in terms of the time it takes to get the bribe stacks

And she's not particularly good at killing either, she has the same problem as Jaina where she has zero escape, her only option is to hope the enemy can't see stealth shimmer.
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>>181498978
she can't do anything outside of her burst damage. she can't actively affect a teamfight outside of just doing damage. zeratul has better damage, burst, mobility, and has void prison that can be used in many different ways to help your team win the teamfight. zer also has lots of outplay potential where nova is just a one dimensional burst hero.
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>>181498978
>Squishy
>Fuck by vision abilites or not being blind to shimmers
>Has no way to escape once caught
>No wave clear
>Ult that locks you in place making it easy to stop you

Despite having powerful burst she probably won't get a lot of kills unless the enemy is blind as fuck. Her whole kit is a trap and blizzard needs to fix her badly.
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>>181498579
It is really damn helpful in teamfights.
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>>181498271
for every 10 people dumb enough to spend $5 on a skin in a videogame under the old system,
there is 1 person so extremely retarded that they will spend $100 on loot chests in the new system
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>>181499279
>Ult that locks you in place
then dont pick that ult dumbass
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>>181500408
Tell that to every Nova player.
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how would you rework triple tap to make it actually useful
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>>181500739
It has too many ways to be interrupted so i would make it deadlier, something like 10% of targets max hp per tap.
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>>181500889
Uh, that would be less damage than it currently does.
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>>181491494
>>181491379
I find taunt the best choice if the enemy is melee-heavy or their DPS relies on AA. Of if they picked Valeera and I feel like bullying some elf. If they're caster-heavy, then it's time to Smash Li Ming and Jaina.
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>>181500987
smash is the most fun ult by far
I WOULD unlock varian to play with it if it weren't for the fact that QM matchmaking now basically forces him to play tank
(yes i am a qmshitter)
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>>181501098
I don't play QM so I don't have those issues.
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>>181501098
>qm matchmaking forces tank
???
It's QM. Do whatever you want. That's what everyone else is doing.
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>go random qm
>get Li Li
>outdamage my team's Tassadar

how can someone be this bad at damage bot tass?
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>>181499228
>>181499245
>>181499121
What would happen if they removed the ghost protocol at 20, but made it so Nova's trait was an active ability?
Make it so when she activates it, she burns through mana at an absurd rate, but her abilities don't end stealth, taking damage still would end stealth though.
Her only ability would be to kill people still, but the enemy team would actually have to be paying attention to murder her.
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>>181500739
Change it to a long range you have to aim that shoots pretty much across the map that will do more based on the how far it went. Basically like a real sniper. You can set up at any point but will go on cd the second you shoot it.
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>>181501219
I've topped damage in Hero League with Lili. She can be a beast against AA comps, even when she doesn't go full blinds build.
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>>181491379
Because Taunt is NO POTIONS.

>>181500739
Make it so it has a long targeting range, and a channel, the time between shots is shorter, and the longer you channel (max of 2 seconds) causes each shot to do significantly more damage.
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Will two Malth's attacking the same target apply double trait, meaning they take 5% hp a second? I've seen Aba's clone Malthael a lot but I'm not sure how effective it is or if they should be spreading rather than focusing
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>>181501202
Ok more like
>If I play smash varian in QM I will be up against a tank with none on my team and I will lose and have nofun
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when should i pick zeratul?
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>>181438923
Not Warcraft trash like last year hopefully
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>>181502149
When your team is well rounded and you need some killing vs squishy heroes, ie never with randoms.
Works best on PvE heavy maps.
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>>181502234
I will take Warcraft trash over OW shit any day
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>>181502234
I think Warcraft heroes are the most interesting characters in HotS.
Their abilities are very distinctive and they often have a strong theme.
More so than Starcraft & OW heroes.
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>>181481029
Having mains is how mobas are meant to be played. Don't change.
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WarCraft stuff is good

WOW stuff is shit
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>>181505353
you are shit
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>>181505353
zul'jin's good and he's wow stuff
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So, I know the 6.5/10 no comeback mechanics meme... but is there too much of a possibility for comebacks?

I was just on a tomb of the spider queen map. Our team was losing hard. We had only destroyed one fort and they had destroyed all our keeps. But they died on the core. 14% left.

We charged in the lane we had taken out a fort, killed the keep, then killed the core at the 26 minute mark. We had their core down to 50% before any of them even respawned and that was after leaving azmodan behind to clear the minions on our core. The last 50% fell quick and we won.

It felt disgusting and I was on the winning team.
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>>181506235
>No comeback mechanics meme

Wait what is this a thing?? I personally thought comebacks were way fucking easy in this game.
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>>181506452
IGN review by a DOTA fanboy blathered on about nonsensical nonsense back when HOTS first came out. Ended up with 6.5/10 saying that out of 115 games he was unable comeback if his team fell behind at all.
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>top hero damage
>top siege damage
>least deaths
>30+ assists
>top EXP contribution

Why does being evil feel so good, lads?
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>>181505765
Zul'jin is WCII stuff
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>>181507049
shit, you're right, this is the version of zul'jin that has both his arms
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>>181506235
At 26 minutes, if you're gonna suicide to core, you better finish it.
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Tell me /hotsg/

1. How do I Jaina?
2. Is it even worth trying right now?

I wish she got some minor buff, maybe a defensive talent or two at least.
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>>181440726
pick malthael, he's blizzard's effort at shifting the meta
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>>181507929
Frost Bolt build feels pretty safe when I play her; poke with Frost Bolt from a safe distance, go in for the kill once your opponent has been weakened enough.
Use Blizzard in team fights when it's harder to avoid.
Always pick Ring of Frost.

>Is it even worth trying right now?
Probably not, I play her mostly because I really like ice themed abilities in videogames. Fortunately Arthas is in a pretty good place right now.

If I could improve Jaina I would just lower the cooldown in Blizzard, it's fucking ridiculous considering how many characters can easily avoid it.
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>>181505353
WCIII Archimonde when
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>>181507929
Keep your distance and chain chill damage, if they're close w-e-q as fast as possible
She's not really worth playing atm though, no
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>>181508164
Just give her back her scaling ability power. She feels like shit without it.
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Jesus christ Probius feels so fucking weak now. His pylons basically die in one spell and it's impossible to set them up.

He used to have a reasonable turret build that was somewhat thematic with the actual character but now you have to go rift build or you're just useless.
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>>181507929
>guldan is a tier
>every other mage is b tier
>jaina is d tier
don't try
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>play kaelthas for the 500 gold
>go flamestrike build
>have to stay back doing shit all during fights or risk dying during stack farming and being useless all game
>go living bomb build
>anyone who isn't pants on head retarded walks away from the giant flashing person so bombs never spread
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>>181509287
What are you skilling up at level 4?
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>>181438923
Tomator.
Blackthorne.

We need more Blizzard Classics up in here.
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>want to watch the KR games
>casters are boring af
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>>181510683
Want to be even more triggered?


>>Turn on HGC KR because I like noise in the background and the occasional while I'm working
>>Normally watch HGC EU/NA, but have finished all the matches
>>these casters don't know anything about the game
>>they're boring, stumbled over words, "uhh, uhh, what's the thing, uhh, uhh" constantly
>the interface and visual graphics for HGC KR is completely different and objectively inferior to HGC EU/NA
>>absolutely worst of all and completely inexcusable: The observer is not using the smooth camera that they use in every other HGC event. It's a stiff, static camera controlled using arrow keys. It's honestly giving me a headache.

>The only redeeming factor for KR's stream is that KR teams use weird picks like Cho'Gall and Lucio

>Oh also

>>there's this giant "2017 HGC KR" in the corner

>Seriously, people make fun of Dred and Gilly, but at least they know things about the game. Gilly is like a walking encyclopedia of talents and knows every team's usual picks in draft, who plays which heroes, and so on. Dread is full of random trivia about the game that is at least mostly related. And when the games are boring (see team freedom vs naventic), they manage to keep up the conversation with amusing anecdotes.


>Another ALSO:

>Since they're in the standard spectator mode, you can see the observer's mouse. Which the observer uses to click around the mini-map to find interesting things to look at. BUT THEN HE LEAVES IT ON THE MINI-MAP. A giant mouse cursor that covers up a section of it.

>How can Blizzard not have standardized this stuff?
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>>181511134
Did you copy+paste this from reddit?
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>>181511338
It is multiple post put together from last thread
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>lost vikings free week
lel
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>>181511134
>chinks are clueless
stop the fucking presses
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>>181512452
rip QM and unranked

>captcha says to select accordians
>only one accordian
>select 3 pianos
>google AI's accordian matchmaking now broken
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>>181512452
Where?
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Is Ragnaros still good? Should I buy him while he's on sale?
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>>181514663
free to play? select them in hero selector?

>>181514907
I'd say he's somewhat underwhelming right now. But general rule for all heroes: Don't buy them unless you think you're going to play them.
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>>181448303
have gotten 2 legendaries as Auriel...if not my best matches
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>>181448303
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>>181515658
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>>181515323
I meant if it was happening next rotation and not just a funny what if
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>>181515703
What the hell would you have to do to get everybody to vote for you?
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>>181515791
tell them you're a girl
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>it's a guldan on team picks glyph of Drain Life, Pursuit of Flame or Chaotic Energy episode
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>>181515835
Sadly anon is not joking.
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>>181516331
>he doesn't go Q build
It's like you hate having sustainable damage.
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Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: July 4, 2017
Raynor
Muradin
Sonya
Nazeebo
Uther
Jaina
Xul
Stitches
Lucio
Auriel
Kerrigan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Illidan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 10)
Probius (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
Lost Vikings (Slot unlocked at Player Level 20)

https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/13604571130?page=7#post-127

>Free Vikings week
>FREE VIKINGS WEEK

time to take a break for a week
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>temple pops in 10 seconds
>team immediately feeds
>immediately give up obj to soak

>NAZ Y U NOT AT DUH OBJETKTIVE

Every fucking time.
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guys i am having fun with valeera

but i am not winning games

how do i carry as valeera
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>>181517378
are you kidding? This is finally my chance to play vikings up to level 10

QUICK MATCH HERE I COME
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>>181517604
>level 10
You mean 15 surely?
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>>181506650
you make it sound easy being green
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>>181517378
>free vikings week
vikings rework confirmed?
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>>181517378
Can't wait to load up Warhead Junction and some TLV shitter has their vikings all grouped up as a pack. Good shit right there. Gonna be havin' a great time. What fun. Thank you Blizzard.
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i just want a motherfucking orc with a big axe to smash faggots in this dead game
thats all i want in life god knows i dont ask for much
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>>181518815
You'll be welcome.
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>quick match still has abathur support vs. actual support

fucking lmao
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>>181519390
>post-"fix" support abathur vs. any other support
jesus christ blizzard
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>>181519390
That's nothing. Quick match still has Dehaka vs. actual tank.
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Thoughts on Stukov?

>That fucken push
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>>181519752
self roots: the hero
bottom tier on release
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tass is stronger than any fucking aa carry
good fucking job blizzard
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>>181517378
I like 6 heroes out of the 14 in rotation. Could be better. What about everyone else in this general?
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>>181520027
t. bronze
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>>181520293
no
t. master
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>>181520061
>not owning every hero
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>>181520340
Yeah, I guess that's why rotations are irrelevant to almost everyone here.
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I wish I could queue up as any given hero and not feel disadvantaged from the start.

The hero roster seems so big now but the list of good heroes seems smaller than a few months back. Though even then, we had heroes like Stitches or Zagara who were just as ignored.

You know what's funny about Anub being broken? I still don't see him in QM at my MMR. It is all Varians and D.Vas. Varian is classified as a warrior now. They aren't breaking the system. They're just fucking pubbies who can't time with his protected, despite his nerf.
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>>181519790

Why is self roots such a bad thing? Lack of mobility an absolute killer?
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>>181520862
HAHA Again!
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>>181520912

What did he mean by this
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>>181522305
You gonna get shotgunned with 9 shuriken right up your shitcreek
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When is PTR going to open for glorious russian half-zerg?
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>>181522863
Probably not till wednesday because of the holiday.
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elves are 4 cute!
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>Enemy team has decent comp
>We have no damage or tanks except for specialists
>Lose objectives
>Lose camps
>Specialist make fun of team for dying while getting ganked pushing

I don't understand why they are happy about making the game a 5v4? They hardly push despite ignoring all objectives. Do people think this is league/dota or something?
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>>181523067
autism
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>>181523067
>winning game on Hanamura by a small margin
>our support is a dumb cunt who first picked Lucio
>he does stupid shit and somehow gets shitcanned 1v5
>we lose
>calls team blind despite being obviously out of position
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>>181523236
The wording was horrible so I tried fixing it because people love to call others out. Kind of like you.
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>tfw you win the blizzcon trip but are too fat for the flight so you would've prefered the computer
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>>181523593
ahhh the plight of the genji mains
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>>181523593
>win blizzcon trip
>it's for 2 people
>you have nobody to take with you
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New player here. Fucking enjoying abathur (im level 30~ acc currently). What is wrong with me? Also, what other characters should i look into. In LOL i main Master Yi, hmm
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>>181519790
>500 burst heal for his whole team
>bad

can't wait until you come back here in two weeks whining for nerfs
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>>181523593
I wonder if you could sell the tickets and hotel and whatever else it had in it. Could buy a better PC than they are giving out
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>chen went from shit to meta with no changes
???
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>Team picks Tracer
>Dies to a sneeze or has to pussy foot the whole game
>Genji counters her while doing everything better then her.

At what point is it a good idea to pick the dyke?
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>>181524532
Chen is good against the characters that became meta.
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>>181524613
>not wanting to fix her mental illness through dicking
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Valeera has bruiser tier health despite having a bunch of ways to get away. I don't understand Blizzard's logic on what defines their certain roles?
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>>181525112
she needs to be tough for rough sexing
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>tfw you get the skinergy with your protoss bro
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>>181517635
sena a best
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>>181525112
is this some hentai?
if yes please gib source
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Is there a fucking way to check what you get at level milestones? This 2.0 UI is absolute shit.
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>>181525112

She be /fit/ yo
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Alarak sucks so much dick

You put in so much effort to play him and get so little out of it.
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>>181525112
She's also useless garbage, so that doesn't actually matter.
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>>181525801
Aside from your Q hitting for like fucking 1000+ damage and shreking people with silence.

Also play with an arthas and take cooldown reduction on AAing things that are slowed/silenced/stunned. You will shit fury all over enemies.
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I've never seen anyone use the angry cloud; is it red enough to match Alarak, or too brown?
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>when a level 86 player throws your promotion game into diamond
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>>181526525
>there are people that don't automatically start at D3
Really boggles my mind
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>>181526525
People are getting seeded into fucking plat and diamond when they shouldn't be getting seeded higher than silver.
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>legendary from hitting 10 with tychus
>red infested
Can you get summer shit from hero specific chests?
>>
>Team engages
>Genji fucks off with dash
>Mocks team for dying

Its almost impossible to die with Genji unless you dash into the game with no hp because you got cocky.
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>overwatch event lootboxes
>guaranteed event item, even if its a shitty white quality
>hots event lootboxes
>not guaranteed event item despite there being 10000000000x more non event shit to bloat the loot tables
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>>181527451
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>>181526482
It shoots thunderbolts. I recommend it for Diablo and similar.
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>>181526917
I'm probably better than you
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>>181527451
I don't know. I've only opened about 10 loot boxes and already have one of the Tracer skins and one of the Tychus skins. And actually, now that I think about it, I think I got a Stitches skin from the brawl loot chest. Don't know if that's related.

Only got one portrait though.
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>>181526461
really you should take that anyway just to dump on people you've hit with Q, or the slow E quest at 1
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>>181528260
>He struggles to get into diamond
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>>181528738
considering 3/4 of my matches are with trollpicks/afk/russian feeders/low level idiots who pick into counters, struggling is not the word
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>>181528268
The random variance in your ten loot boxes is hardly sufficient to form any sort of proper statistic tables. Just because you're inordinately lucky doesn't mean the rest of us are.

In face, you probably stole some of my luck. You jerk.
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>>181528825
>Trollpickers
That's how silvers make up excuses for their own lack of skill, if you can't carry those russians you are not worthy of diamond
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>>181528825
>muh team
you are stuck there forever
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>>181528738
>watching streamer in master
>his team walks in to a 4v5 and dies
>people actually think they are good if they reach master
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>>181529359
>being master means you make no mistakes
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>>181529443
>knew the other team was there getting a camp
>knew their tank was not there
>still engage
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>>181528825
>>181529297
Actually, yes. Definitely this.

When I learned to stop blaming my terrible teammates and started blaming the mistakes that I personally made, I started climbing a whole lot better. Recognizing bad moves on my parts and not doing them in the future solved so many problems.

Does that mean that my teammates are suddenly amazing? No. Does that mean that there are some matches that I simply can't win because the first pick murky was having a bad day? No.

But I guarantee that several of your teammates over the games have looked at you after a game ended and thought, "What a shitter."
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>>181529617
High level players have confidence and judgment problems too, but for different reasons that lower skilled players. Even """pro"""" players do this shit sometimes. Also if they make mistakes and still make it to GM leaderboards every season what the fuck does that say about them? Must be bronze right?
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>>181529901
It says mechanical skill alone is enough to get you to GM.
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>>181529901
High lvl players have bloated ego and self worth and will blame everything on inferior players
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>>181530213
Keep telling yourself that, ye of metallic rank.
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>>181529817
yeah that russian butcher with 9 deaths and no meat in a 30 minutes game must have looked at me thinking what a shitter, that lucio who went alone diving 1v5 must have thought I'm so bad with my 150k damage soaked and 0 deaths
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>>181530306
Really touched a nerve didn't I? You shouldn't pin your self-worth on a rank in game. It's not healthy.
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>>181530365
He said some of them are still shit. Stop sniffing your own farts
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>>181530305
I never really got into pro esport games. After watching a couple most of them do bronze tier shit. Half the time they end up losing then are shocked they lost.
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>>181530453
except that's literally 90% of my games, you can go all the muh only constant you want, the fact is I'm far bellow the rank I should be at because MM this season is fucked.
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>>181530556
You are where you belong and your inability to climb is proof of this.
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>>181530556
>he fact is I'm far bellow the rank I should be at because MM this season is fucked.
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>>181530636
except I do climb, or rather I used to until today by winrate this season was 75%
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>>181530493
>top 0.01%
>still to bronze for me
Why don't you get a team or clone your fucking self 4 times and win every Blizzcon from now into the death of this game?
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>>181530305
What's the story behind this?
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>>181530736
Sure buddy, we believe you. It's a shame so many GM players get stuck in gold because of the rigged matchmaking that this game has that discriminates solely on high level, deserving players like yourself (and no one else).
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>>181530782
>clones himself 5 times
>reaches bronze 5
>other 4 get bored and marry each other
>remain a kissless virgin
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>>181530782
Don't get upset I just would assume they would place decent but that isn't the case.
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>>181530904
you have no clue what you're talking about, nice reddit pic tho
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>>181530904
Fuck you im black and i should get free masters
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>>181531102
I thought white people fought and died in Civil War just because you DIDN'T want masters
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>>181531275
>>181531102
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>>181531275
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>>181531275
Well, people like MLK Jr. and Rosa Parks fought to end segregation and modern college students all seem to want to bring that back so whatever man.
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>>181531275
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>>181530365
>yeah that russian butcher with 9 deaths and no meat in a 30 minutes game must have looked at me thinking what a shitter

Pretty sure he thought you were a shitter who held him back all game and is to blame for those stats
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GOD DAMN IT FUCK GENJI I'M SO FUCKING MAD THIS FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT "LOL JUST CC HIM" THERE'S LIKE TWO FUCKING CHARACTERS THAT CAN CC HIM WELL
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>>181531538
>ask Butcher to wait for us, especially since I'm Tassadar and I can shield him when he goes in
>He doesn't
>Keeps trying to 1v5 the enemy
>probably has like 20 meat by the end of the game

the lesson I learned was never try and support a butcher ever
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>>181531651
play those two characters then, shitter
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>>181531774
>Tassadar
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>>181531774
>not shielding him midway to heal him with lifesteal
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>>181501670
No. Malths can't stack their traits. A team of five malths still only do 2.5% per tick.
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>>181530556
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>>181501670
Trait isn't the strong part, it's the Q that Aba's want to smash when they clone him. Keeps the clone alive and does a ton of damage if they can't kill it.
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>All this shitflinging over HL

Am I missing something? I picked this back up during 2.0 welcome bundle (D.Va pre-release) and have been binging it as my go-to game for my free time. Was level ~20 before my return, now am 173.
Didn't start ranked until I had at least 2-3 of most hero subclasses (like mage assassins, ranged auto assassins, etc.)

Just for reference:
I'm a former LoL player (2+ year hiatus from MOBAs before getting into this) who was high gold before I left. I bailed on LoL because the 40+ min long seemingly unavoidable losses just made me salty, and victories did not make me happy enough to justify the frustration. I'm not claiming to be some pro at MOBAs but this is my reference point.

I placed at Silver 1 (Gold 5 now) and am at 25 HL games, including placements. With the exception of two of the games during said placements (first pick murky WTF), the HL experience has been rather enjoyable compared to the cesspool that I recall from LoL's ranked experience.

People usually communicate during draft, and those who don't still seem to try to fit their picks to the team comp. In-game hasn't really been cancer either. Am I just lucky so far?
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>>181531969
When I shielded him midway it was already gone before he could get an AA in with him running directly into Uther

And those were the times I was actually close enough to shield him and him not going up against 3 people alone in a lane
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>>181532330
Basically we got one angry dude here and bunch of people ticking him off.
Generally people dont care about MMR for HOTS
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>>181532330
Some people lose a lot and blame everything but themselves so they don't feel as bad about. That's where the "only constant" meme comes from. Some people just can't accept that they weren't placed in Diamond 3 and actually have to put in work to climb.
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>>181531774
>Play Medievh
>Get butcher on team
Shield him
>He backs off only to die
>Give him Invisibility
>He breaks it instantly despite warning him before hand

Same concept applies to medic with stim drone being wasted.
>>
>>181532330
You played how they intended to. S lot of shitters get to 5 as any garbage heroes + their garbage main as soon as possible, and if they got lucky in QM for the limited number of matches they played their MMR will be artificially high enough to place in shit like mid-plat.
It's not the biggest deal in the world (you'll see it concentrated here since people are venting frustration) but seeing a level 100 with no right being there in your plat or higher matches is frustrating.
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>>181500739
50% bigger target range.
In addition, any of these:

Twice the current damage. If even tanks have to think twice about blocking shots, then it'll be good.
Shots pierce and CD gets reduced for each target hit.
Increase projectile speed by 50% so they'll have less time to react.

First two could replace the current ult upgrade.
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>>181500739
You don't Triple Tap is the no-aim 1000 damage ult for people who can't aim Precision Strike.
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>>181525785
>she
vitality is not the same a virility
>>
when does the draw occur? where the FUCK is my free stuff?
>>
>>181532110
Also both can tag for the others trait, severeky increasing survivability of each other.
But in a clone upgrade and enjoy the tears.
>>
>>181533135

That's her time of the month, not a bulge
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Yrelka when
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>>181533527
Hopefully never
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>>181533527
never because nobody liked her
we'll probably get some male draenei because there aren't any other notable females

sad sad sad
>>
>>181532058
>get some kuwait nigger
>literally dcing every 4 seconds
>we lose
>le constant may may
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>>181533527
She got her own movie so...never?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ4AZGwGz24

Give me this spray as a skin NOW Blizz!!
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>>181530305
story? doesn't really look like a joke with the look this chink has on his face.
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>>181534412
>Bone Visage Xul
Rework tomorrow on PTR?
>>
>>181530887
>>181534485
>
It starts with EE and company discussing about how hard it is to climb solo queue. Hanni pretty much says once you get to 6k it's whatever at that point, EE says it's hard and he's determined to get to 7k and beyond. So EE starts his queue as we're watching tinker game, he steps out for two minutes. During that time Hanni, knowing how important solo queue is to EE, switches the region to SEA which would result in roughly a 400 ping. Eventually EE returns, Hanni steps out and his queue pops, at which point Hanni returns as EE is picking his hero and starts laughing repeatedly. Shortly after Hanni leaves to go cast Tinker vs VP. During the cast Hanni references this SEA queue prank a couple times, needless to say EE hears about them, adding fuel to the fire. It's at this point EE get's the idea in his head to get Hanni by dumping a Monster Energy Drink on Hanni during a live cast.
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>>181534412
>all those skins we'll never get teasing
>>
>>181534485
DOTA2
the c9 guy is a player
the guy getting red bull dumped all over him was the host

host played a prank by setting the region settings to the opposite side of the world because I guess such a thing works as a prank in dota circles.

player then played a game to demonstrate something or other but because of super high latency, lagged out a ton and lost. Lost rank points as well.

got pissed off, dumped red bull over host's head and walked off stage
>>
>>181534817
>>181534817
Pirate day is coming up in September. Never say never ;).
>>
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20888397/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-notes-july-3-2017-7-3-2017
it's out
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>>181535078
>All those changes to Hanamura but still nothing done about Bribe being too effective against the support camp
>>
>>181535078
>Hanamura still in the game
>>
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>>181535078
>Xul rework

I fucking knew it!!
>>
>>181535078
>Xul rework
MIEN DICC

>>181535193
They made the item you get from it way worse and made it easier to take without Bribe.
>>
>>181535078
>not fixing the support camp
>forcing the payload minigame even harder
>only a single hero got tweaked
>>
>>181535078
>mal not getting nerfed
wew lad
>>
>>181535078
xul actually meta now

oh wait no he isn't LUL
>>
>>181535078
>a whole bunch of nothing
Sick.

>Hanamura hasn't been delete
kms

>Xul rework
Nice.

>no Malth nerfs
installing league
>>
>>181535342
They didn't change the powerup at all, they just made the monster camp easier to take which really doesn't mean much. They did nothing to address that it's cleared with 1 stack of bribe while still giving a huge amount of EXP allowing anyone with Bribe to exploit both support camps easily for a big exp lead.
>>
>>181535078
>Genji and Malthael weren't changed at all
What is this garbage?
>>
>>181535245
>>181535342

>Echoes of Death (Q)
>Moved from level 16 to level 13
>New functionality:
>After an additional 1.5 seconds, 2 more Spectral Scythes appear next to the first and travel back to Xul dealing 75% damage.

>Reaper’s Toll (Q)
>New functionality:
>!Quest: Hit enemy Heroes with Spectral Scythe.
>!Reward: After hitting 20 Heroes, reduce the cooldown by 3 seconds.

tfw Xul wins lanes now

>all those skeleton bufs
>poison nova buffed
>skeletons now useful in teamfight

My boi is back
>>
>Mal not nerfed
>Nova still shit
>Hanamura still worthless
>Hanamura STILL in the fucking rotation
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>no Malth nerfs
>no Genji nerfs
>Hanamura hasn't been disabled

Nice game, Hotsbabs.
>>
>>181535078
>decrepify removed
I almost never used it but goddamn if the sound didn`t tickle my nostalgia boner
Also that heroic cd reduce at 20 seems really fucking cool since it doesn`t seem to specify damage against heroes
>>
>>181535078
>no more skeleton mastery
WHY????????
>>
>Run animations for Battle Raptor and Epic Battle Raptor Mounts have been updated.
the meme is over
>>
>>181535886
noone is forcing you to play sweetie :)
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New skin inc?
>>
https://my.mixtape.moe/apjuof.ogg
MX_Heroes_InfestedStukov.ogg
>>
>>181536017
>>181536017
NEW THREAD
>>181536017
>>181536017
>>
>massive shove has a
>get this
>are you ready
>2 0 s e c o n d c o o l d o w n

but flailing swipe has 80

epic
>>
>>181534412
>pirate loot chest

oh no
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>mfw xul rework

ive missed you, friend
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>>181534412
Portrait at 1:05 is fucking MEPHISTO PORTRAIT.

I THINK. THEY JUST. TEASED. MEPHISTO.
>>
>>181536868
it's Diablo
>>
>ask Sonya to solo lane
>"I shouldn't"
>Sonya dies at 1 minute 30
>"gg"
>proceeds to go "this sylv" "this jaina" "this valla" anytime something bad happens, or even just watching them while they're dead
>of course lose
>"y'all shitters"
>went god damn leap instead of wraith of the berserker, especially when I have divine shield as Uther so that wraith could last a long time

god damn it dude, ranked is just not fun cause every game that doesn't result in a steamroll just has people at each others throats.

That said I really don't know why our first pick Valla didn't go Q build on BoE
>>
New Xul is godly, you heard it here first.

He can duel fucking anyone it's insane.
>>
>>181536049
Implying that more than 100 people are playing at any given moment.
>>
>pick malthael
>win
>they ban malthael
>pick stitches
>win
It's really that simple in gold
>>
the naru have not forgotten use
>>
>PTR stukov is open

He even got the red commie skin and white power skin , not to mentioning the epic octopus hentai skins

Tell me now a single reason not to buy him?
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>Tyrande still in the dumpster
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>>181540262
lewd draenei when?
>>
save dem gems and get the 4500 year long stimpack that will come up later during the (((holiday sale)))
>>
>raynor against muradin/johanna
send help, i can't click on anyone worth clicking on
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>>181537042
thats def not diablo
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>>181542794
>>
>Play artanis
>Kill Nazeebo
>Hmph, an inferior life form
What did he mean by this?
>>
>>181544704

Terrans aren't as advanced as protoss.
>>
>>181542794
>>181544608
http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/Bartuc

this dudes armor would make a top hero, kind of like chogal/abathur but you could choose who you attach yourself too
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