/wowsg/ - World of Warships Admiral

First for Enterprise is best ship

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>>181309834
second for first

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Thirdly for Enterprise... Bigly!

>>181309834
What's a good game for Enterprise?
I got complimented twice on her maiden voyage

35k to Hotel...god I hope its worth it, this grind is on par with pepsi and old ognevoi for pure frustration, Im tired of shells coming out of the barrel sideways. Im tired of missing dev strikes that NC and Monty would pull off easy. Im tired of this third gun being in the wrong end and backwards, tired of staring at the dildo tower on the deck, tired of non-existent aa and questionable armor, tired of mediocre penetration values.... this Izu really is as bad as they say.

>>181309834
Yeah, it really is amazing.
Having the honors of being the worst premium CV, and one of the worst premiums in general.
A literal PTL ship, which does nearly the impossible, by being vastly inferior to all other ships in the same tier at the low low price of 60+ dollars.
Anyone playing this garbage in ranks should be shot.

>>181310502
Shoot yourself first :)

>>181310502
Oh baby, I'm going to buy Enterprise and I'm going post good after battle results and you can eat shit.

mods are asleep
post webms

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nth for making fags buttmad

>>181310653
Right, post them.
Then I'll post a result of a battle in a Shoukaku.
Torps>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AP shit that tickles DDs and cruisers.

I have now seen an Independance dominate a Ryujo and still get kills.

The (lack of) quality of play in ranked is amazing.

>>181310953
Okay. You do that buddy.

>>181311072
Go ahead and post your amazing 50K average dmg, your evaporated plane reserves, and your 40% win rate.
Maybe after Shoukaku completely dominates Shiterprise in the next couple weeks, WG will finally realize that giving a CV utter trash torps, trash fighters, and trash bombers at T7 means a utter trash CV.

>>181311392
why are you so mad?

>Conqueror is a good BB thus people are trying to nerf it
Great, turn it into Groz so it's worthless trash and make the tree pointless.

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>>181311392
Buttmad autist spotted.

It's actually not possible to win a battle in ranked, is it?

>>181311497
Probably a poorfag who couldn't afford it.

>>181311596
You just have to be in the opposite team dude.

>>181311674
Italian ships when?

>>181311646
Yeah, buying a port queen so I can just look at all day.
Can't wait to go in ranks and have a horde of this trash ship pop up everywhere.
It's going to be just like the stupid mother fuckers who come in with a strike Lex, only played by a bunch even worst CV players who just had to buy the new shiny toy.

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>>181311890
>being this mad about how randoms spend their money

>>181311553
yeah the assblast is mainly from the Heal that it gets and less about the Radar, which makes actual sense on a British Battleship. Even after explaining why it is getting such a good heal people still cry bitch tears and try to defend why it shouldn't have it.

>>181311392
that projection

>>181312154
The heal is because it has no armor. Yamato can citadel you through the bow and know off half your hp easily. So having a heal is a good thing or you're just dead and useless Tier X.
I really think it's mostly because there's such a hard on for BB hate. People really need to let that go and look in the mirror.

>>181312154
why is it getting such a good heal then?

>>181312059
Maybe your right.
Lex is going to feel special now, finally fighting a CV that can't lock it's fighter while torpedoing its shit in.
Hallelujah, WG has finally done it, Lexington will not be seen as utter cancer when it shows up on your team.
All thanks to a CV that can only hurt KM BBs, while DDs and Crusiers laugh their asses off after they get overpenned and vaporize her tiny little DB/TB reserve.

>>181312342
Regardless, the thing can solo an entire fleet of cruisers because it can out heal their damage when angled properly.

>>181312458
Just get close and devastrike her broadside dude.

>>181312458
Show me. Because I doubt an onslaught of HE and AP from ships can do nothing to a BB.

>>181312374

>>181312342 literally said why. Conqueror is a glass cannon. Because of said status, it got a huge heal. People are bitching because they would rather be able to solo a ship with a regular heal, than use teamwork to take out a Conqueror with multiple ships mitigating the huge heal. But yeah I know, >teamwork in this game

>>181312627
>a ship is balanced because it can be killed by ganging up on it

>>181312781
>a ship is balanced because I can solo it

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>>181312452
stay mad

>>181312627
>taking out enemy team requires teamwork
>whole team has to focus one ship instead
wew
>literally every single cruiser maybe except for the zao and hindenburg is a glass canon
>only bongs get uber heal
>they even get it faster than everybody else
>and a smoke on top of that
>as if giving regular heal to others would brake the game

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I bought Enterprise and plan to buy Graf. Stay mad, faggots.

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>>181312893
>more than one ship means the whole team now
>bitching about smoke when you're forced to choose, regardless of which, the BB doesn't get.

>>181312840
Sorry, I'm not the one who is going to get shit on for bringing a piece of crap into a battle and help lose it over and over again.
I'm not the one who is going to regret buying a port queen, and leave to rust after T9-T10 AA wipes out my T7 planes and getting torped by a Shoukaku/Lex for the millionth time.
I'm not the one who bought a CV with the worst fucking torp spread ever, and have to rely on RNG shit bombs that only hurt BBs, while watching torps do it better anyways.
I'm quite happy telling you and the other retards who bought this garbage that you'll abandon it, just like everyone else after Zepplin shows up.

>>181313327
Thanks for the essay.

>>181313438
You're welcome, enjoy your shit ship before you
abandon it like the overpriced whore that it is.

>>181313559
k

>>181313559
Why do you care so much about what people spend their money on? It's their money, they can set it on fire for all I care.
I swear, poorfags think so much on how others spend their money while richfags never think about you.

>>181312824
Well, yes. Are you implying a ship that always wins any 1 to 1 engagement is balanced?

By that definition Black might be the only balanced ship in the game.

Holy shit, who let the special needs kid out?

>>181313775
When you stupid fucks buy this shit, you actually use it before you get sick and tired of it, ruining everyone else's game while doing it.
This piece of shit isn't even balanced enough for seasoned players to actually do anything anything else but lose.
Why not do everyone else a favor and leave your overpriced turd in port, before you make the already decreasing player base smaller.

>>181314303
And he's back to paragraphs.

>>181314350
I remember when people would tell me to fuck off for playing my Atlanta as though it was a personal affront that I jepordized their chance of a win by playing a highly flawed but fun ship.

I'm clearly not good enough to win two consecutive battles in ranked, the skill floor is just too damn high.

>>181314606
When Atlanta gets forced into a mirrored MM like CVs do, then you can compare it with the utter cancer that is Shiterprise.
We all have to be stuck with one CV when this shit ship leaves port, and I would rather not being stuck with one that makes the fucking Ranger look good.

>>181313327
As a CV connoisseur with 4.6 Million XP on the Lexy, I am unaffected by this.

>Shoukaku/Lex for the millionth time
what is defensive fire?

The only one who will get assblasted by this are shitty CV players. When all else fails, I can always go easy mode and play IJN.

>>181314851
Tell me anon, did your father beat you as a child? Or perhaps your significant other is abusive to you? What made you this way?

>>181314863
Okay, I'm curious, what does the Big Shit have that a CV connoisseur would buy it?
It can't sink DDs, so it's ability to control the tempo at the beginning of the match is none existent. It can't lock down planes and shot them down fast enough because she has slow, weak T7 fighters. Her staying power is terrible, because she has weak, slow DBs and TBs whose reserves get vaporized by any decent AA.
Her only forte is sinking KM BBs that are stupid enough to wander alone and in a straight line. Which can already be done by Lex and Shou with their not shit torp spread.

>>181310413
>35k to Hotel
You're lucky: I'm still 200k from Yamato, and grinding the Izumo is draining my silver stockpile. Can't wait to get rid of this turd too.

Also, since USN BB buff, it's even more frustrating since american BB can go broadside without getting raped by citpens like before.

>tfw no-one to play with

>>181317045
u on EU senpai?

>tfw people are actually buying Enterprise
>tfw people will actually buy Graf Zeppelin
>tfw Conqueror gets radar, near-Yamato guns and a ridiculously powerful heal
>tfw everyone is fine with that
Well, it's getting pretty clear at this point that WG can get away with literally anything given how utterly retarded the player base seems to be.

>>181319003
Theres literally nothing wrong with any of that, shitlord

>>181319104
Thank you for illustrating the point.

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My back hurts.

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So where's muh Purge, you obnoxious turkish mechafaggot?

You didn't even have the balls to do it, what a limp!

>>181319003
>near Yamato guns
>3mm away from being able to overmatch absolutyely everything
>3 fucking mm
>FOUR EX TWO at TIER FUCKING TEN
>bong turret traverse
can't wait for conqueror to turn out to be absolute and utter shit with meme heal and radar that you will never use because you snipe from the blue line with your bullshit range, never hitting anything due to distance and FOUR EX TWO

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>>181320475
>complaining about 4x2

>>181320475
>Bong turret traverse
>Basically everyone gets a free 10pt Bong captain with +bonus to turret traverse speed

>>181320475
>3mm away from being able to overmatch absolutyely everything
Explain. Why is 460mm able to overpen anything, while 457mm isn't?

>>181320475
4x2 in and of itself is not necessarily an issue, it never stops Nagato from being godlike. But yeah, at tier 10 it's a bit... problematic.

>spotted
>12 people aiming at me
>just angle/wasd dude

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>when you get twice the xp of the second guy in your team
>and he's a fucking CV
I don't enjoy winning anyway.

>>181321115
460/14.3 = 32.17, pen 32mm
457/14.3 = 31.96, can't pen 32mm

It has absolutely nothing to do with real life combat at all, they just invented a number to make Yamato guns penetrate but non-yamato guns non-penetrate.

>>181322158
I never really cared about these numbers:
is 32mm a special kind of widespread thickness?

Conqueror is clearly a made up ship of the worst kind. Personally I'll get up to the Nelson for my autism (having a single historical™ ship for each tier of different nations: VII Nelson, VIII Bismarck, IX Iowa, X Yamato), but I won't go further.

funny fact: real life destroyers were significantly worse than in-game because in addition to actually having the critical components they call a citadel in game, it also could be killed by a missed battleship shell.

A good part of the reason battleship armor is so thick at the waterline is because a 350mm+ shell that detonates underwater is basically a depth charge. Water does not compress (unlike air) so the force of every explosion slams into everything in a 360 degree circle, it only weakens by distance squared.

A battleship gets around this by having immense armor everywhere underwater that will be near the plunging shells.

Destroyers lack this waterline protection. 19mm wouldn't stop a yamato shell that lands 10 feet away in the water from breaking a destroyer open. It might not completely split into two pieces, but the body would be filling with water and permanently out of that combat.

>>181322841
Look at the armor viewer and the nose of a battleship.

>>181322864
>it also could be killed by a missed battleship shell.
Where are the proofs?

>>181322985
A lot of ships during the war were seriously damaged by near misses, both from air drops and from gun fire.

Ded

>>181322864
Imagine if WG implemented this mechanic: DD would die at the first near miss of a BB, but they would also be able to launch torps with proximity fuse that would detonate under the keel of the BB, literally splitting it in half.

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>tfw bullying kraut "battleship" fucking shits in Missouri/Iowa div
>ez 10k volleys no matter where I aim
>that sweet thundering sound of 16in
>the sound of liberty
>ywn be American

>>181322864
You are very wrong, and have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

Please shut up, and at least read some basic shit before you make a fool of yourself again.

British battleships when?

Why should I play Bismarck when NC exists?

Secondaries are literally a meme

>>181322634
every single fucking game

>>181325087
but then nearly all US destroyers would have torpedoes that were harmless duds 8 out of 10 times. They'd sink too deep and fail, or the proximity-fuze would blow up too early and be harmless, or not blow up at all, so they turned that off and just used the impact-pistol fuze, which also failed nearly always.

Hell, early torpedoes could even mess up their steering and drift in 360 degree looping circles and sink friendly ships or your own ship that launched the torp.

Torps were calibrated for certain polarities. If you cross the equator, your atlantic torpedoes would harmlessly fail to detect any ships in the pacific ocean because they didn't have the charge which told the torps a ship was in the area.
The same with south pacific tuned torpedoes up north at japan or the atlantic.

Also, real life torpedoes were far, far slower and near worthless against ships moving at combat speeds unless you have an intense number of them.

A bliss-leavitt torp on the wickes, 36 knots in real life and 56 knots in-game. 56% sped up.

Even worse, ships in-game are 7x larger in size than the real life ships.

Imagine how easy it would be to dodge torpedoes that were as slow as ships and your ship is 1/7th as wide and 1/7th as long.

There would be enough time and space to squeeze even the world's largest battleship between torps fired at long range.

The real danger of torps was if the victim didn't know combat was happening and hadn't done any scouting. (Often-times via incompetence, like the U.S. failure Admiral John Mccain who was told to scout an area and agreed, then never ordered any scouting missions, which let japanese stealth-torpedo his fleet)

The victims would be drifting at 10-12 knots with half the crew (incl. the captain) asleep on the night shift, then suddenly a shootout happens and before the captain even gets back to the bridge and figures out who is fighting who and where and why, they'd already driven into a torp field with no evasion at all.

>>181326019
STs are playing them on the live server, so I guess next patch.

So, there's a broadsiding Montana right in front of our Iowa and an angled Yamato 20km away.
Which target should our Iowa shoot at?

>>181326914
The Montana is an American ship, the Yamato is a Japanese ship

Why would an American shoot another American? Therefore, obviously the Yamato.

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>there's a 2 and 3 man div in my team
>everyone in them is sub 48%
>one goes around the whole map sniping
>the other dies within first 6 minutes
>tfw I am the only constant
What ship should I play to carry such shit? A star destroyer?

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>switch from Ocean to Dry Dock
>GPU 15°C hotter

>>181328423
I've noticed this too: dock is so poorly optimized my GPU starts to scream, even though I'm using the ocean dock.

>>181326309
I don't understand why WG fucked up the scale so much:
>they made ship larger
>but they also blew up landing patterns of battleships so much they still manage to miss most of their shots even at knife range
>all this while capping maximum range of every ship in a seriously ridiculous way
>and altering shells flight path
>just to cram everyone in a stupidly small map for a naval engagement
>increasing however everyone's speed and acceleration
>although everything is bigger and faster, in a small map, they managed to force the visual in such a way everything seems a plastic toy in a bathtub

I know this is an arcade game and everything, but come on...

>>181326309
USN destroyers went on to sink just as many ships with their torps as their IJN counterpart by 1943, they also showed that a DD can take out a BB by themselves, when USS Melvin single-handily sank Fuso with just one torp spread.

>>181326309
>Torps were calibrated for certain polarities. If you cross the equator, your atlantic torpedoes would harmlessly fail to detect any ships in the pacific ocean because they didn't have the charge which told the torps a ship was in the area.
>The same with south pacific tuned torpedoes up north at japan or the atlantic.
Do you have a source for this? I always thought that the proximity fuses just required a ferrous material nearby, I don't see why the equator would matter.

>>181331008
>yfw a single MAS managed to skin a KM BB in 1918

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North Carolina is ________

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>>181333125
sasuga HOTELfag

>>181333125
a smol Iowa

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>>181333125
in need of some BALANSing)))))))))))))))))

>>181333125
A better Iowa.

Since the buffed angles of the X turret and the lowering of the citadel it has become really OP.

>>181333969
Also, now that they nerfed Bisko to the ground NorCal is even stronger.

>>181333969
Are you stupid?
The citadel was never lowered, because it never had that problem.
Only Iowa/Missi and Montana got that buff.

>>181332195
They detect changes in the magnetic field of the earth, which are casued by teh ship's hull.

This means local conditions can influence how well this works, there are noticeable weak and strong spots in earth's magnetic field, the south atlanticd has a really weak magnetic field and in most of the pacific is also not exactly strong.
See link for a better visualization of the change in strength across teh globe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field#Geographical_variation

What this meant was that a German magnetic fuze that worked well against convoys in the north atlantic, got captured and was then copied for use in the western pacific might simply fail to function.

>>181323202
>No proofs
I thought so.

If I buy a silver ship that I already had and researched before, do I have to re-research all the modules again? I wasn't planning on going back to the Hatsuharu but I really want those flags

>>181336265
No, you'll only need to repurchase modules, but not reresearch them.

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OH YES I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!

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>>181326309
As for the the torp speeds, the dev's said they sped up all torpedoes by 20 knots.
Most navy's realized that pre-war magnetic exploders were memes within the first year of the war and then removed them until they could perfect them.

I'm not sure how you figure ships are 7 times as large as they're supposed to.

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Hotel: Literally, the QTest.

>>181332260
>MAS
>KM
>in 1918
Whatever you wanted t osay there, those three cannot be right together.

>>181338381
Why does this bow look so short?

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Holy shit Kirov is literally the best tier 5 cruiser. my favourite cruiser so far

>inb4 anime

>>181341613
How many times are you going to post this?

>>181342009
What? a screenshot of the game? in a general about the game?

>>181342118
>Holy shit Kirov is literally the best tier 5 cruiser. my favourite cruiser so far
You're repeating yourself.

>>181341613
>Holy shit Kirov is literally the best tier 5 cruiser
You misspelled "Furutaka" lad.

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>>181312991

>>181333694
this

>>181336265
>>181336334
Notice also that when selling a ship you have the option to 'Sell with stock modules only' rather than 'Sell with all modules'. If you choose the former you'll save a little money if you ever re-purchase the ship.

>>181312991

>I bought a ship I knew was shit, u mad?

I don't understand. If you bought a Belfast it makes sense but an Enterprise?

>>181346661
they label themselves collectors and call anyone else a poorfag, a very sad individual who has to spend every last penny of his first ever paycheck to fit in

>>181340195
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Szent_István

>an italian torpedo boat
>sank a battleship of the k.u.k Kriegsmarine
>on the 10 of June 1918

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>>181334705
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Harpoon_(1942)

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3rd loss in a row, topped XP each time and done most damage, what am I doing wrong?

>>181349748
>what am I doing wrong?
Existing. Alternatively, posting on /wowsg/.

>>181348865
>not even DDs
>just a guess idk
Stop embarrassing yourself, kid.

>>181350260
You okay anon?

>>181350332
DD don't have significant armor. If a tanker can get damaged by near misses, so a DD. You wanted proofs, you have proofs. Now shut your dick holster and stop moving the fucking goalpost.

>>181350394
I want to start winning.

>>181351379
>a DD can be destroyed by a near miss
>proofs?
>some poofter thinks this non-DD was destroyed by a near miss. Checkmate atheist!
…and you accuse me of moving the goalposts?

>>181346737
Didn't you hear? If you criticize a shit premium, you just want it to be OP.
Enterprise is pretty much the opposite of the Saipan in terms of abilities, but a similar kind of cancer.
You hope you get the Saipan on your team because it's a OP piece of shit, while you hope the Enterprise can fuck off because it's a giant PTL piece of shit.

>>181353732
Are you buttmad paragraph fag from earlier?

>>181353732
IGN?
No going to hurt you but I want to know your CV history and play. Because if you're a skilled CV player with hours upon hous in them then your words may carry weight.

>>181354346
Fun fact: for WG it's way more important the opinion of the average noob, because it's the more representative of their average customer

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>>181353837
>>181354346
Enterprise, can only kill BBs as good as every other CV, but absolute garbage everything else.
Nothing funnier than watching a DD strike fear into a CV, truly breaking new grounds.

>>181354852
k

>>181355372
Meh, guess I can't win them all.
But considering how Enterprise is a joke that keeps on delivering every day. You'll laugh at the shit ship sooner or later.

>>181355798
k

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I am going to find a rope pretty fucking quick here

>>181354852
Maybe Enterprise isn't designed to kill destroyers and that should be left up to cruisers?
Why do CV players need to kill everything on the map?

>>181357223
Same reason why CAutists insists their cruiser class must counter every class: Autists

>>181357223
Name another CV that can't sink DDs, CAs, or any BBs that isn't a KM one?
Because that is Enterprise in a nutshell.

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>All this butthurt over Enterprise
>They'll just buff it later when they figure out AP Bombs and probably fix the torp spread like they've done to USN in the past
They can buff premiums all they want, they can't nerf them. Better to start underpowered and move up from there.

>>181357951
>No, it has to be overpowered from the start or its shit. And if its overpowered then its pay to win and its shit.
The mind of the people hating on Enterprise.

>>181357801
That depends, is the DD captain paying attention or not?

>>181357951
>They'll just buff it later when they figure out AP Bombs
It can already take off 4/5ths of the health of a German battleship, the most popular line in the game, with an autodrop. I don't think the AP needs any buffing. All they ever had to do was reverse the torpedo drop from a W to an M.

>>181358104
1.Horrible torp spread that are slow, and weaker than average
2.T7 planes that are slow, flimsy, and weak
3.Reserves completely dominated by fighters
4.Five plane squads that take forever to arm
5.Only has 500ib He bombs, and AP bombs that are only good against KM BBs

Can you name one thing good about this ship again? Because everything listed is advertised on WG's own store.

>>181358675
>Can you name one thing good about this ship again?
You keep writing paragraphs at the mere mention of her name. And it's hilarious.

>>181358675
>1.Horrible torp spread that are slow, and weaker than average
US torps are stronger than IJN and the spreads are perfect against BBs. Besides no proof they won't change in the future.

>2.T7 planes that are slow, flimsy, and weak
You can get the tier 9 upgrade that makes strike planes stronger.

>3.Reserves completely dominated by fighters
Fighters have always been the USN gimmick. It makes sense WG would carry that over to a Premium US CV.

>4.Five plane squads that take forever to arm
Again, you can change this with Captain skills and upgrades.

>5.Only has 500ib He bombs, and AP bombs that are only good against KM BBs
Good, with the over saturation of German BBs they need a hard counter that Enterprise brings.

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>>181359053

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Anyone know what this is?

>>181358985
1.Her torp spread is not perfect for BBs, they will not do anywhere near the alpha damage that a typical USN spread or IJN one can do.
2.The tier 9 mod is something that only gives her planes more health, not speed, so they will be caught in AA more, especially if she is up-tiered.
3.It's a bad gimmick, and the reason USN CVs are inferior to the IJN.
4.Yes, and it's still to long, especially compared to Shoukaku who has much better strike then her.
5.Only against KM BBs that drive in a straight line, and just hang back. Every other CV can sink these no problem already, and still be effective against every other ship at the same time.

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>>181359798
Belt loops :^)
Seriously, I'd like to know too.

>>181359928
>he keeps comming back
holy shit dude stop

>It's the year two thousand and seventeen of our lord and WG has not yet surmounted the minor technical difficulties preventing the implementation of unified gold

>>181359798
It's for tossing waste water and such overboard, so that the inevitable stain is largely hidden within the chute.

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>>181310502
Just play Steel Ocean for 6 months and get Enterprise for free.

>>181363701
Oh, so its a waste-disposal?

>>181359798
>>181363701
Same poster.

It's specifically called a gash chute, according to HMS Hood Association.
http://www.hmshood.com/ship/hoodspecs6.htm

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>https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2017/07/01/wows-qa-1st-july-2017/
This is some EU level mission standards. But it is for Gangut.

>>181364106
Okay, now what about other stuff? Like trash and human waste? Where is Nagatos poop chute?

>>181366562
>300k damage to destroyers
What the fuck.

British DDs and BBs when?

>>181367571
British CVS when?

>>181367789
What's a CVS?

>>181367571
>BBs
Patch after next probably.
>DDs
There's 2 premiums in the works, so it can't be long. Kind of funny that they still haven't made a premium German DD.

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>>181354852
>>181353732

Meanwhile, Reddit is complaining the ship is OP as fuck

>>181368606
It's both OP as fuck and completely useless. The penalty for being so specialized that all it can really do is nuke German BBs.

>>181368690
>all it can do is nuke german BBs
>webm shows two cruisers getting rekt
hmm

>>181367281
>>181366562
They plan to sell it after so they make the missions for no lifers.

>>181368606
>Reddit is wrong
Stop the presses!

>>181368606
Oh look, Reddit crying OP because BBs are getting sunk, what a big surprise.
Any CV can do this when a ship sails in a straight line and decides to go solo.

>>181370403
See >>181368780

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Another loss, I am literally cursed.

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>>181371482
What am I doing wrong? I try telling my team what to do but they just don't listen.

>>181371904
>16% win rate

you gotta install the gaishu approved warpack

>>181370403
I thought reddit's thing was crying about more BBs and BBs being overpowered.

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>>181370403
Oh fuck off, a CV being able to point and click on the ship to remove is bullshit on its own, but now it just reached a new level of bullshit. A BB can wasd all day long, but a CV with the correct number of chromosomes will be able to ignore all the maneuvering, also because BB can't pull some stunt like anchor dropping or barn door stops. Also, a BB usually doesn't choose to be alone: it either lags behind what should be its escort, or its teammates die around him. In a 1vs1 situation, let's say in a battle where the BB carried on its own, in the moment he's left against a CV, the CV will always win no matter what, and not because some superior skill.

>>181372098
So if a BBs team dies it should be able to shoot down all of a cv's planes regardless?

>>181372225
Name one other class matchup that, if they're forced into a 1v1, one of the ships has zero chance of winning. Not just fighting but also winning through objectives. Even a CA can stealth and use cover against a BB.

>>181372098
Enterprise can only effectively sink KM BBs, that's it. Anything else hit by the AP is either going to get overpenned, or be at the advantage towards the RNG based damage that all DBs have.
This ship was literally made to reduce the KM BB population, she is a one trick pony.

>>181372509
DD vs BB
CA vs BB
CL vs BB

>>181373674
Except some of the high tier cruisers, which run the risk of being one shot too.

>>181372098
Of course CV will win against a sole BB. That was the entire purpose why CV was invented you dense cunt

>>181372098
Oh yes, lets just buff babbie AA even more so that a plane can't even enter a 15km zone around them

>>181372509
DD vs CV

>>181373780
Sending out these slow as shit T7 planes against high tier CAs means running into a gauntlet of AA that will vaporize them.
No one in their right mind will send RNG based DBs into a minefield just to lose most of their already tiny reserves for negative returns.

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Lol I will fucking kill you for doing this to me

>>181374218
And what happens when the Midway gets the AP bombs?

>>181374762
She gets a shit torp spread.
Making her worse in the long run.

>>181373764
>unless the DD fucks up in some ridiculous way, the BB will die and or lose
>if the cruiser has half a brain, it will kite the BB and burn him to death while dodging all his shells
However it's easy to fuck up here for the cruiser, or just for RNG to kick in
>if the cruiser has a complete brain, it will stay clear of the BB and win through cap
But it might not have the time to do so

>>181373919
>if the CV has lost all his attack planes, then he's dead meat
>if not, he still has a chance (or more than one)

>>181374580
>Lol
Anu doesn't talk like that.

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>>181378329

>>181374580
>best CV NA
When was angry moth promoted to best CV NA?

>>181375363
>if the cruiser has a complete brain, it will stay clear of the BB and win through cap

what the fuck am i reading?
CVs are cancer and shouldn't be in the game but baBBies are the 2nd most despicable population

>>181379282
CAutists are worse

t. CVnt

>>181378523
Fake news.

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>Dunkek isn't viable in ranked
>Graf Free isn't viable in ranked
>Bayern isn't viable in ranked
>I know it because my favorite Youtube shitter says so
I love it when these people sink in the first 5 minutes and then bitch about other people's picks as the latter proceed to carry the game to victory.

>>181382439
This is why we need XVM

>>181379429
CAutist are always right

>>181382439
Laugh if you wish, Amin, but they're all inferior to Fuso.

>>181383074
Funny way to spell Warspite

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tfw MM rewards you with an amazing game after a defeat streak
also apparently it took me 2300 games to get the first kraken ever. I was convinced that I'd never get it

Remember the hype about German BBs, but then it turned out that every single one except for maybe the Nassau is inferior to IJN and USN BBs?

>>181385341
Yes, why?
I remember the hype about USN BBs and the same thing happened.

>>181382439
Bayern is a piece of shit, give me one good reason to pick it over the NM or Fuso

>>181385450
>overmatch
>armor
>secondaries
>speed
>turning circle
but I guess it can't hug the map border as well as Fuso, so that makes it completely uncompetitive

>>181385418
USN BBs are better than IJN BBs in a number of cases

>>181385858
>Secondaries
Don't care about 5km secondaries

>Speed
25kn is only 0.5kn faster than Fuso, but a bit faster than NM sure

>Turning circle
It does turn a little better than the Fuso I'll give you that

Overmatch and armour is nice, but with the shotgun accuracy and the 8 rifles you get vs the 12 the others get, I think overall artillery effectiveness would be less than Fuso and NM.

>>181386040
That /case/ is tier 9.

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How goddamn hard do I need to carry to secure a win?

>>181388346
USN is better in some situations, IJN is better in others

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>tfw playing DD and you see a torp wall and you hit the speed boost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv13gl0a-FA

>>181388774
Yes it must be very difficult and intense for a DD to dodge torps, mm

>>181388521
I think that's what they call balance.

>>181385341
>>181385418
>>181386040
>T3,4,9
KM>USN>IJN
>T5
All feel about the same to me
>T6
IJN~=KM>USN
>T7
USN>KM>IJN
>T8
USN>IJN>KM
>TX
KM>IJN>USN

>>181389019
Pretty much everything about this after T5 is wrong.
T9 looks fine I guess.

>>181389019
>Colorado & Gneis better than Nagato
>Bayern better than NM
>etc

For what purpose?

>>181388858
shut the fuck up you negative nigger, sick of you losers shitting up this chat with your depressing shit because you cry when wank

>>181389231
Damn like a pin to a balloon

>>181389210
It's some faggot talking out his ass.

>>181389019
>Myogi
>Worst tier 4
Get out.

>>181389363
my aquarian brother. It's like slapping people with a fucking wet fish, just swing that ass round and slap them with your guns, love Myogi

>>181389019
>Bismarck
>Worst T8
Good joke.

>>181389583
If the fight is >10KM away then bismarck loses. Unfortunately this is quite common.

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The Graf is a nice ship, somehow the only cruiser I can stand playing

>>181389725
You've never seen me play ninja biscuit.

>>181390129
Good luck hunting the NC with better concealment than you.

>>181390303
North Carolinas are pink bitches.

>>181390387
*non-cit pens you for 25k from outside your secondary range*
*bounces your shells off my bow*
You should watch how you speak to your betters young one.

>>181389176
Pretty much everything about this comment is wrong.
Second line looks fine I guess.

>>181389210
>Colorado & Gneis better than Nagato
Of course. If the rapist moves in close her sub-par armour can't shut down those legitimate citadels. If she tries to keep the range open she loses the dmg/min contest against CO and Gneisenau will simply run her down.

>Bayern better than NM
Besides the overmatch advantage, she has better armour and the enemy doesn't have time to go through a pack of cigarettes between salvoes. Secondary memes are just the cherry on top.

>>181389583
She has the lowest skill floor, but also the lowest skill ceiling. Now that her hydro has been nerfed (and her secondaries are apparently next in line), she has lost that offensive edge needed to keep her above Amagi.

>>181390782
What? Can't hear you while you're sunking?
I've taken full hp NCs while I was half health. They're easy pickings.

>>181391315
Something tells me you haven't taken on mine, there's a reason Bismarck and Tirpitz are my favorite ships to fight in the entire game.

>>181391267
>Nagato is inferior to Colorado and Gneis
Shitter detected

>>181391267
>If she tries to keep the range open she loses the dmg/min contest against CO and Gneisenau will simply run her down.
Sounds like you've never played the Nagato.
Actually it sounds like you've never played a lot of these ships.
>GK better than post-buff Montana or Yamato
>Montana anything but first place now
Nagato is tied with Scharnhorst as the best T7 BB, definitely the best of the tech tree options, Gneis is too inconsistent at range and just can't rely on getting close in every situation, especially when in bottom tier games.
NM is only slightly worse than Fuso, and both of them are better than the Bayern.
T8 and 9 are right though, people really overestimate how good the Bismarck is, Amagi and especially NC can do far more in the hands of a decent player.

>>181391780
cant wait for the bisko and derpitz nerf next pathc, they are the best T8 BB's right now

>>181391837
Yeah I've never felt threatened by either when using Nagato Colorado is just citadel food and I love hearing Gneis shells go Twing! off her armour inb4 torps they are usually dead before 7kms

>>181389019
So, with AP bombs coming along the way, with a 1600ib monster being given to T9-T10 USN CVs apparently.
How could this possible look with their introduction?

>>181393157
>1600ib
What does "ib" mean?

>>181382646

>need XVM
you "need" to see yourself to the dumpster for that, my dude

>>181393316
meant to type lb.

>>181393339
what's wrong with xvm, I just wanna xvm snipe unicums and harvest their tears

>>181393743
why?
if you're any good you probably don't need XVM, if you're a shitter you can try to snipe them but they'll probably beat you anyway

>>181393847
If I know they're unicum then I can automatically beat them because that's how xvm works

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>>181392714
>this
I love my Yamato but as I just got Montana I find her extremely fun to play, Fuso is my favorite tier 6 bar none her 12 14 inch rifles feel just right. though I also really like Arizona and Amagi

Concealement expert or fire prevention on Izumo?

>>181382439
From my experience so far Dunk players are actualy pretty decent. Strongest by far have been Fusos, while DD players, especially Gaede are incredibly bad.

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>>181395897
fire prevention> decks are coated with gasoline

this tier 4 is great fun as well

>>181392893
>Nerfing a premium
Someone doesn't know the rules.

>>181396354
The 105 fire chance/damage nerf is universal m8, its hitting Tirp and Scharn as well.

>>181396968
Fake news.

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>>181396080
But captain, your ship is extremely flammable.

>>181397612
Thus why it is critical to set more fires, than getting set on fire(s)

>>181392714
Bayern is the best T6 BB.

If you think otherwise you're bonkers.

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>>181398372
Fuso holds you at 18kms and just keep hitting you over and over then uses it's spotting plane to pull further away to keep out of your gun range 100% of the time, what do?

>>181401107
Fuso only goes 24kts and due to 1.5 sigma is unable to reliably hit at long ranges. Bayern gets great concealment, if you stop firing and are outside of spotting range you can re-engage at your choosing. Bayern doesn't snipe any better than fuso.

>>181401107
You're faster and better consealed than Fuso. In fact, with CE, Bayern will not be detected outside of it's optimal engagement range.

Meanwhile, your guns hit harder, can overmatch Fuso's bow, and actually citadel it. Your armor and AA is also better.

Fuso only wins, given equal skill, if it has team support to spot you at long range.

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>>181401492
I run the signal that makes it's speed 25.7 knots and hitting targets at long range with Fuso is easy enough for me. I've never found it difficult to take down enemy ships with Fuso as a matter of fact I don't think I've ever had a bad game with her even once

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>>181402193
even in defeat the ship just holds it's own

>>181392904
>>181401107
>kms
Hurry up and get it over with.

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>>181402458
even as everyone dies around me

Mutsu or Fusou for rank?

>>181402728
Try both see what sticks, 16 inch guns come in handy though

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Anyone love that feel when you detonate a DD with secondaries?

>>181404020
I once caught a jap DD who thought he was being sneaky, coming up behind me. I don't think he was expecting a secondary-spec Nagato to be expecting him.

>>181404638
I literally was shooting at a Yamato that was side on to me and I got a detonation message that I killed a DD, it was so unf.

WIll WG break their policy of not giving anybody bigger guns than Yamato with the release of soviet BBs?

>>181405075
Da komrade.
Sikret archives tell us about Wrath of Father Stalin guns, that shoot 500mm mustache infused shells at 1953m/s

>>181405075
T10: Stalin, Stalin Class Superbattleship
4 turrets each holding five 30 inch cannons
6x long range anti-ship missile silos
30x ZSU-23-4 turrets mounted on deck
15 turrets each holding 16 inch secondary armament
several dozen torpedo tubes
1x 1000ft flight deck, and hangar. capable of holding 100+ jets
1,000,000,000 hp able to reach 60 knots
10km detectability range
20km torpedo range
150 knot torpedo speed
also is first use able submarine
and twice the dimensions of Yamato

>>181389725
>10 kelvin-nautical miles
wtf are you blabbering about?

>>181405827
*two times smaller than Yamato))))

>>181405860
HOLY SHIT AREN'T YOU SMART MY FELLOW INTELLECTUAL SIR
FOUR-CHAN GOLD IS ALREADY COMING YOUR WAY

>>181405827
That sounds like a fun wows raid boss

>cleveland
>no speed
>no maneuverability
>no armor
>fuckhuge
>shit turret traverse
>shit range
>shit concealment
>t6 mm
>shit arcs
>b-but muh shooting over isles
>as if enemy team is completely fucking braindead and ALWAYS conveniently sails next to my perfect island that is high enough to cover me and low enough to let me shoot through
250 games in this piece of shit and still cannot get how can people consider it good. Leander has smoke, heal, better concealment, torps and AP that doesn't give a shit about angle.
>inb4 git gud

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>Really want Black
>Really hate Ranked
Should I just wait for Radar on British DDs?

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Watcha grinding right now, /wowsg?

>>181409414
Hindenburg
Benson

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>>181409414
Yamato

>>181409414
my will to live

MAHAN IS SHIT
SHIT

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Enterprise is good, I don't know why it's getting hate in this thread by some aspie.

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>>181409414
Izumo, skipped the B hull, got the C hull, not even wasting exp on range and engine.
>tfw still 200k exp to the Yamato.
>tfw silver to exp ratio is too low with this ship

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>>181410190
Its literally one guy writing paragraphs about nonsense.

>>181410190
But can it CV snipe Shoukaku with AP bombs? I am honestly curious

>try supporting DD in a cap
>he only smokes up once he is detected
>I'm already half dead
>gets torped
>FUCKING NOOB RETARD TEAM NO SUPPORT UNINSTALL

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>at least 3 DD in every ranked game
Make it stop! DD don't have fun knife fighting each other.

>Shimakaze
>Just lay torp soups all day without ever being seen
>Get free damage and flooding
Easiest DD to play.

>your team wins due to your murican mist generating machine
>but you did 23k dmg so you get fuck all reward)))))
Yeah, this game really promotes teamplay.

>$260 AUD goy boat pack
>only 3 ships I don't have yet (Saipan, Alabama, Enterprise)
>will never play the CV

ALABAMA ON ITS OWN WHEN REEEEEEE.

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>>181410737
>try to push and lead the attack
>teammates follow me
>suddenly all enemies focus on me
>realize BB went full reverse and CA did a 180 and fucked off at the first sign of danger
>MFW we would have had numerical superiority
>MFW DD instead of laying a smoke curtain to let me turn around popped smoke and sat in their magic circle as soon as they received fire
>in the meantime enemy DD did the right thing
>enemy CV was spotting us
>our CV sent their planes on the far edges of the map
>MFW I couldn't even return fire

>Every game has Sky Cancer now
I miss the days when that class was dead.

>>181412430
I don't
t. North CarolinAA

>>181412430
I don't see any problem
t.not jap BB

>>181412430
>enemy carrier carries his team
>yours doesn't even know he can use fighters
I'VE GIVEN UUUUUUUUUUUP

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Ran into a Conqueror today.
Either this ship got over hyped or the ST sucked but he died like the rest. Ain't anything special.

>>181413254
>but he died like the rest.
No shit, its biggest weakness is other BBs. Gets bullied hard by high caliber AP. It's to smaller ships that rely on HE/fires/smoke that there's hyping going on.

>>181412571
I do
t. >>181410197

>>181413254
all STs suck

>>181413254
It's a battlecruiser.

First girl gamer who post proofs (feet) gets a free Enterprise.

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>first battle in benson
>forgot to mount premium smoke

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Is there any audible difference?

Remember that one guy who went off on a flank by himself and complained that his team abandoned him?

Why do people bother with the skill that tells you whether someone is aiming at you or not? You should know at a pinch how to angle your ship given the surrounding enemies.

>>181414834
If no one is aiming at you, you can full broadside DPS for days.

Why should I play any T6 cruiser other than the Graf?

>>181414905
To progress down the line to your fair and balanced Zaos and Hindenburgs

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So there's this AFK furutaka there, easy free XP right?

Time and time again, firing at the entirely reasonable range of 10km, I would get 1-4 hits doing roughly 840-2000(max) a salvo

The ship is clearly only partially angled and I'm firing at its exact, immobile centre. What gives? Is the Furu suddenly renowned for amazing armour now? What's the go?

This is a game of skill after all and not luck.

>>181415552
>This is a game of skill after all and not luck.
Said who?

>>181414905
Graf fucking sucks

>>181415552
Shooting is all about enemies moving into your shell, not your shell moving into them.

>>181415552
Look at the angle hes at you fucking retard

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>>181415552
>Graf Spee
>2x3

Should I even take range upgrade on USN DDs?
I won't hit shit anyway and it only gimps my concealment.

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Is the thread dying? There's only 300 over posts in over a day.

>>181416553
I joined ERP channel, vg is no loger needed!

>>181416553
Yes, that's because we don't have enough ladyboy anons fulfilling our manly desires.

>>181416553
Umi please join discrod i want to be bullied by u, cunt

>meme bismarck camo
>snipes from the blueline
>snipes with HE
I want separate server or gamemode for people with Freesmarcks.

>25k base xp for a reward I can get from a 2k xp container
w e w

>>181417128
Yeah, they give us real Bismarck owners a bad name. Wish their was some camo or something so people who not to scuttle.

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>>181417052
Why do you want to be bullied?

>>181417052
>Ask umi to join discord
>Call him a cunt while doing so
Guess why umi will never join discord

>>181414638
What's this moonrunes language

>>181416014
Yes I'm looking, it's closer to 90* than 0

Are you telling me I shouldn't expect reliable damage on an immobile ship unless it's exactly broadside?

>>181421016
yes

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>>181421185

God I want to drill Umidoori.

>>181421763
God i want to drill Kashi.

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Please send Bajones a saipan on na

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>>181412430
Tfw double cv t7 match

>>181421898
n-no

>>181422015
God I want to drill Bajones.

Life feels so empty knowing that I will never grow a second dong so I can drill Kashi while drilling Umidoori

>WWI
>Germany had one of the strongest navies in the world that could compete with Britain
>WWII
>Joke aside uboats
Biggest shame.

>>181423372
>both wars
>Britain has a gigantic fleet
>loses lots and lts of merchant ships anyway
>waits for the US to send help
Biggest shame.

>>181423638
Retype that correctly, please.