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C'MON HEALER edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GW-Y445jUc

Previous dungeon: >>180999143

Official artists deviantart:
http://cribs.deviantart.com/

Pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/ayjczL4M

Fanfiction Masterlist:
http://pastebin.com/CcNahBZW

OST:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGOvv8Bziniqak1ebzd6njY9S27GdxPRL

Narrator:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy1RoYlej6xWqRRci7K_OuQWa-7UgG0uo

Kickstarter heroes & trinkets
http://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Backer_heroes
http://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Backer_trinkets

Dankest Links
Official website:
www.darkestdungeon.com
Dev Posts & Patch Notes:
steamcommunity.com/app/262060/discussions
Catalogue Page:
boards.4chan.org/vg/catalog#s=darkest
Wiki:
darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Darkest_Dungeon_Wiki
Steam Page:
store.steampowered.com/app/262060
Less grind mod with some /vg/ skins:
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/77?
More /vg/ skins:
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/99/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/100?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/103/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/101/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/112/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/113/?
Musketeer (UPDATED NOW):
https://mega.nz/#!YqoElApC!Hg68PKDqlhrMJRUgrFcvNNCPYIiQuQYiD7FtEtKGa14
Bucket Crusader (also dolphin porn):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8k2t5ncuea5s2bz/crusader_G.rar?dl=0

Anon-approved newbie guide:
http://pastebin.com/jK4HPS2e
/dadg/'s own champion boss guide, written by Anon:
http://pastebin.com/e3Sc7VER
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*snort*
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Do you guys think its worth firing my second lvl 5 crusader with on guard and natural swing locked in, max in equipment and spells, for a second lvl 3 MaA with deadly eldritch slayer, weald scrounger, and fast healer with all maxed out too?

I have like 20 something heroes lvl 6, and I dont have a single MaA or Bh higher than 3.

Asking again.
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>>181081261

Nobody cares, it doesn't matter. None of it matters.
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Okay chaps, for those wanting the musketeer, here it is, updated again!


What it is
>Added musketeer as well as her trinkets and crimson court trinkets as a class separate BUT EXACTLY THE SAME AS Arbalest
>Nothing is different between her and the arbalest aside from not getting a free bandage, just as if it were vanilla

https://mega.nz/#!lj42RBwY!TydX7P1o-vo2zz_kcJdghjf4vetqPQVXrbtqkDBDoaQ

What changed since the last version?
>District for the arballest should work for the musketeer now

What's missing?
>Art assets for her crimson court trinkets, which have not been released yet, meanwhile it uses ancestor's musket ball and some unused backer trinket art

How to add it is on the README

Test it out, any mistakes or problems ask here
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>>181081521
But I care motherfucker.
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11,221 In-Game
Nice
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New player here. I love plague waifu and waifu robber.

How do I build an efficient team around them?
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>>181081613
reminder that the one guy working on that crusader skin offered to help with trinket assets
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>>181081613
Sorry, didn't make the thread this time. Will add it on the next one.
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>>181081682
Currently sitting at a nice 250k.
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>>181081807
as far as I know, they're still unreleaded, based on what redhooktyler said on some reddit thread

we can draw them ourselves too if it takes that long to have them released
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>>181082050
that's what I think that anon meant
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>>181081613
You're the real mvp
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>>181081787
fuck off already holy shit
we're not google
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How fast can the game be beat? The limit Stygian mode places on you made me interested in finding out one can push it thought how it doesn't change enemies other than giving them more hp/damage killed my interest in doing runs on stygian mode.

Speedruns I've seen only go to necromancer. Doing it using only the minimum number of required characters would require some stagecoach luck.
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>>181081787
Two Antiquarians.
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I don't remember: Does the AI go for weaker lvl heroes much more than it does higher level ones?
I just recall trying to level a lvl 1 dofus in pos4 on a short champion run and first fight, ALL 4 MONSTERS go exclusively for her all throughout two rounds.
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Would you?
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>>181082841
>speedruns
The game is almost entirely RNG. There's no such thing as a speedrun in a game like DD.
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>>181083794
bug pussy or people pussy?
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>>181081787
PD/ GR/ Vestal/ Crusader

The first two ranks should hit shit and stun the first few ranks. GR and PD should blight and stun everything else.

The Vestal requires the Profane Scroll trinket to be safe in vet level dungeons or higher. Works best in Ruins and Cove.
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>>181083198
before the dungeon loads, the game decides which of your characters is going to get shit on
see, that makes the RNG fair
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>>181084051
both
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>>181084157
Thanks good to see at least one skilled player in these threads
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>Doing the Baron quest
>All star team of my highest level heroes, Jester, Flaggy, Helion all level 4, Occultist level 3
>Taking my time, enjoying the scene, steamrolling through everything, stress always low, Jester critted the croc for 1/3 of it's health, thinking about calling the quest off to make more space for all the fucking loot
>suddenly the Baron fight starts
>notice that some of my abilities are locked
>heh... so he just locks some random abilities? no problem, all I need is bleeds and heals
>few turns later occultist gets hit by a crit and reaches death's door
>"haha time to heal"
>suddenly it hits me
>only the healing abilities are locked
>the thing literally says NO HEALING ALLOWED WHILE THE EGGS ARE UP
>air leaves my lungs
>throat goes dry
>stare at the screen blankly realising my fate
>click escape
>failed
>occultist dies
>click escape again
>remember that the occultist had Junia's head and the stress box on him

Why the fuck did I never listen to the ancestor
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>>181084190
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>>181084493
We spam that wisdom for a reason kid.
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Rate my DD1 party.
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>>181084886
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>>181084886
>Double Leper

The madman
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>>181084886
Well, worst case is the Jester and the Occultist die and the Lepers can't be moved out of rank 2 and since they can't go over 100 stress I'm pretty sure there's almost no way to lose.
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>>181084032
Technically, with a save state and infinite amount of paitence, you can save scum your way to victory so your lvl1s can win the darkest dungeon.

Pratically, most good players finish the game at 50-75% of the limit
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>House of the yellow hand

is this a reference? an expression?
what does yellow hand mean?
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>81/84 achievement
what the fuck is RH doing fix the goddamn achievements already
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>>181084493
https://youtu.be/8yyAgk9der4
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>head into the courtyard to hunt the baron
>vest/plague/dizzy/rey-rey
>everybody fucking bullies plague
>FEARFUL
>manage to cure her affliction
>come back a few weeks later
>everyone still targets her

Her mask must be mocking them and their dumb, pointy faces
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>>181086014
>your lvl1s can win the darkest dungeon.
Not possible even savescumming. Heroes that weak wouldn't be able to kill the last enemy before reinforcments arrive.

I guess you could technically do this given infinite tries if you bring the last 2 enemies to 1 health before leaving one, but this is outside the realm of reality.
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>>181086129
Possibly a nod to the "Black Hand" which was basically the Mafia. Would make sense for a bunch of thieves and killers.
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>character gets afflicted during mission
>gets flagellant perk in the postmission roundup
>GUESS WHO'S IN THE PENANCE HALL
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>legendary trinket from hooded shrew blood begger girl
>glittering gold
>trinkets and baubles
>paid for in blood
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Wow, that took a whole three turns.

The dungeon itself was ludicrously easy, too. The Jester and both Lepers have quick draw charms, meaning they were able to clear out all the damage dealers before they even had a chance to act.
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>>181087617
How did all of them proc virtues before the mission even started?
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>>181084886
How are they all virtuous?
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>>181083794
PORN WHEN
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>>181087693
He passed all their turns on the first fight (or just kept retreating the first fight) until they hit 100 stress then had the jester destress them down to 0. Rinse and repeat until they all roll virtuous.
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>refuse to follow the numerous "upgrade your town in this order and use these heroes to win ezpz" guides
>can't beat the game
I wish I could figure out why I keep buying roguelikes. Either I bend over and play exactly the way the community has already figured out is the optimal way to beat the game, or I spend hundreds of hours losing to bullshit until I finally get fed up enough to either quit playing or google builds. Either way I feel like I wasted my money.
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>>181087617
>all virtuous
I LIKE THAT DUNGEON RUN
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>>181088460
You know people had to play the game to beat it right? Take the time to think about your upgrades and stuff or what your doing. For example, instead of picking what's available or just the first thing you think of try to plan out ahead.
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>>181088458
But you cant get a virtue if you already got afflicted.
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>>181088460
but you can use literally any heroes to win if you know how to make a not shit comp
except antiquarian
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>>181088726

Lowering stress to 0 removes any affliction, anon.
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>tfw
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>>181088726
You can remove afflictions if they go to zero stress.
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>>181088726
If you go down to 0 stress your affliction is removed. When you get back to 100 it rolls again.
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>>181088458
eh that's a scummy tactic
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>>181088627
>people had to play the game to beat it
nahhh that's not how modern gaming works
datamining and hacking beats most games before they're even released
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>>181088849
Does it? I didn't know that.
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>>181087617
Confirmed for being more autistic than the ancestor himself
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>>181089002
Literally in the big tooltip popup about afflictions in the first Ruins.
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>>181089145
Been some time since I read it.
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>>181088458
I brought a Hero Ring and Tentacle Idol and switched then around between heroes to speed up the process, too. Ended up getting pretty lucky and landed a virtue on all of them first try, so I never actually needed to bring any of them to 0 stress.
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HOW QUICKLY
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THE TIDE TURNS
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Wait, i've yet to do the darkest dungeon, can you just not take any dmg in the first fight and keep jestering your heroes back to 0 stress?
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>>181090260

There can be no hope in this hell, no hope at all.
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>>181090320
The first fight has nothing but 2 guys who only heal and guard each other. Think 2 collected vestals/MaA.

I have no fucking idea why.
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>>181090320
Yes, DD1 and DD2 have a few fights with two Cultist enemies who only guard and heal things. So if you leave those two enemies alive you can get full heals off of them.

They're placed intentionally, at least as far as getting full heals are concerned. Most people don't have the patience to grind virtues like here.
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>>181090320
The enemies in the first fight don't have any attacks, they can only guard and heal. They appear pretty often in the dungeon, so it's a common strategy to abuse encounters with two of them to fully heal and stress-heal your party. Getting everyone virtuous is a couple steps further than most people go, though.
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>>181081613
>Nothing is different between her and the arbalest aside from not getting a free bandage, just as if it were vanilla
>As for the lacking bandage. I'll get that rectified. -redhookjohn (some reddit thread)

Seems like they missed out the free bandage initially. Musketeer is kinda neglected by RedHook as backers don't seem to be reporting bugs as much
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Man there sure is a lot of glittering gold, trinkets, and baubles. I wonder what I have to pay for them?
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>>181090594
I waish it was just a reskin instead of a separate class.

The way it is it only decreases your chance of getting the trinkets/heroes you want as both are taken from a larger poll. If you decide to use both arbalests and musketeers you essentialy need to get each class trinket twice. It's dumb.
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git fucked
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I'm about to tackle the Baron, can I get any advice for party comp?
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>>181091546
riposte with +damage and high crits
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So is the Baron quest supposed to be longer than 3 long length dungeons? I've cleared out about thirty to forty rooms and nada so far. Found a key for a red door, thought the boss was back there, but it was just a crocodilian
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>>181092237
Yes, you're not supposed to complete the entire dungeon in one run.
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>>181091546
HM for Hound's harry since he hides in eggs and 2 damage will pop each egg open
Stack him with bleed
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>>181092445
>not popping each egg one at a time and killing the enemy inside
>not focusing on baron as soon as you find him
You people are too attached to healing. Baron deals almost no damage.
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>>181082756
>stop discussing Darkest Dungeon in the Darkest Dungeon general
What?
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>PD can't cure teammates' diseases
>but GR can
I never understood this
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>>181095016
Pd can, it's leeches that does it
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>>181084493
Me too buddy.
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>>181093129
>almost no damage
>Crowd Pleaser three times a round
>for 5-8 damage on ever character each time
>entire party of level 3-4 characters knocked down 15-24 health every round
>half the rounds you're not allowed to heal

Not to mention he also does bleed and blight.
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First time through here...

First time I got someone to rank three the shrieker showed up and stole 8 of my trinkets. I didn't do it for like 20 weeks cause it's a rank 5 boss, and it showed back up and stole 8 more trinkets. Are those first 8 just gone forever?
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>>181097179
I think so, yes.
It's also not quite as hard as it's made out to be, you just have to survive for 5 turns and it flies away.
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>hellion topless mod has terrible tits that were obviously drawn by someone who has never even seen pictures of real ones
>meanwhile I have no drawing skills
>this is what I have to work with
>going to do my best to fix it and add hard nipples when attacking
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>>181099093
>>181099270
>Using nude mods
Are you fucks horny twelve year olds?
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>>181099785
No I just want a topless barbarian warrior. Is that too much to ask?
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>finally beat DD for the first time
does this mean I'm not a casual anymore
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>>181100147
On Stygian?
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>>181100147
Depends. Did you get the Reynauld and Dismas achievement?
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What exactly am I missing with stress management? Is it just because my heroes are still low level? Seems like I always come out of dungeons with stupid high stress on everyone even when I always try to focus down the stress dealing enemies, while everyone here constantly keeps their stress at zero.
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>>181101285

Every fight should last less than 4 turns max. All stress dealing enemies should die as fast as possible. Wounds can be healed so don't worry to much on health.
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Do we know what Flag says when you choose him to die at Heart of Darkness yet?
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What happened to the Anon who was making a Crusader ReSkin?
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>>181102134
Something along the lines that everything has been leading up to his sacrifice and to not take it away from him.
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>>181102384
what kind of skin was he making?
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>>181102997

Cute knight with a retarded barbed sword.
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>>181101285

My stress problems went away once I put a jester on my team. Find a jester with +speed quirks, finale and stress heal til the fight ends.
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>>181103380
Isn't it kinda dangerous to use Finale early in the fight with the enormous dodge debuff, considering it's the thing making up for him having the second lowest HP in the game?
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>>181104001
Just get a MAA to guard him or something.
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>Occultist hits death's door
>Goes Hopeless
>Deathblows himself on his next turn
Nice
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>>181104053
Oh yeah. I'm retarded I guess.
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>>181104001
Rank 4 is generally a safe position.
There are exceptions of course.
Smoke some medicinal herbs if you have to.
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I like the Crimson Court DLC so far, but holy fuck can the Fanatic go fuck himself. The enemy, the concept, and the execution.

>hey guys you know what we should put in to go with this potentially debilitating permanent status effect
>an obscenely difficult boss who randomly pops up to rape your party's asshole through its mouth
>Also he kidnaps your party members to burn them so you can't even try to run away unless you break his pile of shitty wood because the second you get somebody off he'll use one of his THREE FUCKING ACTIONS to trap you again

Fucking jesus christ everything else I'm fine with but what the fuck
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>All those fuckers from the last thread complaining how sparse invitations are
>I'm getting 5 fucking invitations a quest
HOLY FUCKING SHIT WAIT FOR YOUR INFESTATION LEVELS TO MAX OUT.
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>>181104161
It could be worse. At least he wasn't fucking shanked by the hero that was supposed to heal him.
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>>181104820
This. I'm trying to grind out some money with carriage meat and I keep running into Court enemies, Gatekeeper included.
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Is there a spreadsheet or something of (de)buff durations and stacking limitations? S'pretty bothersome that the game doesn't tell you stuff like how HM's guard only lasts half as long as MaA's, or whether or not you can stack blight with more blight.
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So what sort of composition works best for the Fanatic? Mark teams to destroy the pyre asap? Bleed since he has relatively low resist?

Additionally, is he a constant threat? Or will he only gank you when he's chilling by the ancestors statue?
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>>181105220
Constant Threat but will only guaranteed appear if you get his Loading Screen. Destroy the Pyre ASAP but have one bleed/do riposte so you can still sneak some damages here and there.
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>>181105391
Can he appear in the Courtyard too?
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>>181104161
I had a PD do that in DD3 and that was the point I decided to abandon at the cost of a selfish hellion
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Good morning dadg
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Going back to the Courtyard, my current comp is [Vestal][_____][Hellion][Man-at-Arms]. With luck I may reach the baron.

Would you guys put a Highwayman or Jester in the third slot and if the latter what sort of talents? I'm figuring Harvest, Finale, Slice Off, Battle Ballad
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>>181108358
jester and take a hm instead of a hellion imo but both can work i guess

put jester in first slot, you'll start off with finale anyway
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>>181108568
Currently I don't have a high level Houndmaster. I really should work on balancing out my roster.

Additionally, doesnt this mean the Moon Cloak has permanent uptime since torches don't work?
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>>181108868

Bloodmoon counts as Radiant light for some reason
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>>181108868
the opposite, moon cloak won't work just sun cloak
also level a few houndmasters in warrens
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can you get more than 1 Fortifying Garlic?
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these new trinket sets are so fucking bad
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>fighting swine king
>Crits my flagellant from full to death's door
>Piggy kills him with a one damage mark same turn when he had 95% db resist

Fucking Christ I love this game
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>>181109926
Death Blow Resist is capped though.
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>>181108979
>glaringly bright-red glowing moon over an above ground area
>uh, shouldn't it be like dark or something
Anon
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I was watching Moonmoon play this game and thought it'd be easy as fuck due to his bullshit luck. I've been dicked so hard so many times, what the fuck. How is someone is lucky???
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>>181111468
what

also why are you watching that assface
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>>181109926
Damn. Wasted having two db trinkets on him then.

Praise rnjesus
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This just looks wrong.
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So why is the Houndmaster so popular here? His bleeds are incredibly weak relative to the alternatives. I can see his merit in the warrens but not anywhere else unless I'm missing something horribly important.
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>>181113734
He's a jack-of-all trades that does everything well, and fits well in any party at any position.
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>>181113734
It's the synergy he has in mark parties.
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>>181113734
Hes a versatile hero that can work in many roles and teams. Outside of the warrens you can have him up front helping stun people, or serving as a dodge tank, or mark and take advantage of marks, or relieve minor stress on all your dudes. Granted he can't do everything at once but you can slot him into most teams and he'll have some synergy to offer. It also helps that he has a good design and that hes probably one of the more likeable/noble heroes in the cast
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>bring vestal Dismas Reynauld hellion to heart of darkness
>first form took its time spawning imperfect reflections, hellion close to 100 stress if not for Reynauld healing her
>get to second form with everybody at half stress
>Dismas, Reynauld and hellion stacking on fuckloads of damage and crits, ending the phase in 4 turns
>final phase has Dismas and hellion stacking up the bleeds
>let hellion go first, Reynauld almost shits himself
>Dismas continuing to dish out huge crits, boss drops to his second check in a scant few turns
>vestal's sobs trailed off as a giant tentacle consumes her
>Reynauld loses his shit, goes irrational
>Dismas still going strong, throwing out crits like no tomorrow
>boss down to less than 20 hp
>Dismas ripostes his ass with a huge crit as Reynauld rolls around gibbering incoherently

best bros
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A redditor is looking for someone with Spine to collaborate making Hero Mods with. Either he ends up with Scorpio or some other m'fer or you could help him. I wish the general wasn't so anti-mods that aren't reskins that we could at least talk about concepts and shit like custom trinkets, curios, mobs, items, and shiet.
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>first veteran run
>fanatic appears
>hopefully I won't have to fight him
>have to fight him
>oh I'll just run--fuck no escape
>actually beat the fucker
>drops cool trinket
>have to abandon quest
>feels like a win anyway
>the shrieker has stolen your trinkets

Fuck you.
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>>181114427
It's the least Dismas could do after killing Reynauld's family.
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> redoing Baron expedition
> going smoothly for now, GR hit DD once but got healed back to full by Occult and is doing work with her crit spam
> encounter random Ghoul and Bloodsucker
> Ghoul crits GR for all her hp and Bloodsucker applies bleed
> Know what's going to happen
> Didn't remind myself.
> Deathblow
> mfw
But once again every party member is a resource to gain loot so eh.
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Gonna take on the 8-pounder. Bounty hunter or Grave Robber? Thus far I have hellion and Occultist as my only level 3 healer and tank.
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>>181114427
I love them. They are amazing. Both have acquired virtues more often then afflictions.
Both survived the shambler, acquiring virtues during it.
Dismas has fought in every boss battle so far and performed the killing blow on my first boss.
Reynauld has never stolen any important stuff.
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Do I have enough blood yet?
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>>181084493
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>>181088858
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So i played this game at launch until last dungeon, then kinda abandonned it.
I'm restarting now with a fresh new save and the DLC.
What quality of life/new class mods would you recommend for a smooth sailing run?
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>>181091259
Those motherfuckers were the only champion boss I had any problems with.

Grabbed heroes would instadie the moment I retreated back to the village after the fight, cost me 3 perfectly level'd dudes; including my favourite hellion with 0dmg/0 stress, even after finally beating them.
Fucking bug >:(
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>>181118468
>quality of life
Faster walking/faster combat animations, the default speed is just too slow. Removing the Abomination's religious party restriction is also generally seen as fine.
>new class mods
There are no good ones. Closest you'll get is the Musketeer mod, and that's just the kickstarter backer reward but available for everyone. Even then, it's just an Arbalest skin.
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>>181118685
i fucking love these Bone Courtier pics
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>People say mosquito vampires are 'unique'
>The furry fandom has been doing it for ages
>Red Hook even copied the anthropomorphism along with the taur-ish look
>Because of CC, someone drew the Plague Doctor getting turned into a mosquito girl

Someone on the dev team is a furry
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>>181113734
Best ranged dude that can serve up front and brings lots of utility with him.
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>>181118817
easily the most iconic enemy of this game
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>all camping skill names are in caps, barring the ones antiquarian and flagellant have
>flagellant only has his four unique camping skills
For what purpose?
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>>181119502
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>>181118817
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is corvids eye worth locking in?
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>>181119274
>someone drew the Plague Doctor getting turned into a mosquito girl
You know what I want right now, Anon.
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>>181119848
I'm considering making this my halloween costume
need to find myself a swag ass coat though
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>>181119274
>This is surprising to you
>When there's pigman orgies in the warrens
>When there's a fishmen in the cove
>When a girl gets turned into a fish
>When the abomination turns into a goat-wolf hybrid
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With the Finale buffs, anyone tried 3 Plague Doctors + 1 Jester yet on Heart of Darkness?
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DARKEST DUNGEON POWER RANKING

OBJECTIVE TIER LIST

Tier 1
Houndmaster
Occulist
Jester

Tier 1.1
Man-at-Arms
Bounty Hunter

Tier 2
Hellion
Vestal

Tier 2.5
Arbalest
Plague Doctor
Highwayman

Tier 3
Crusader
Grave Robber

Tier 4
Abomination
Fragellant
Leper

Tier 5
Antiquarian
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>>181087837
he ran into the first group which cant actually do damage to you and just passed his turn until they hit 100% stress

if they went afflicted he can just use the jester and leper skills to go down to 0 stress and try again
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>>181100147
come back when you do it torchless bloodmoon with 4 antiquarians
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>>181119274
kys
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>>181113734
very versatile hero

can slap anyone from nearly any rank, rarely does shuffling put him in a bad spot, good at disarming traps, heals stress, heals himself, can guard, stuns, marks, extra dmg on beasts, mark lowers prot and his camp skills have ambush prevention, stress deduction AND extra scouting
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>The event after fleeing from a battle where Dismas died I get to return him to life
FUCKING YES!
Rank 5, never acquired, an affliction, just virtues. I love him, nearly considered quitting when he died. And this is my first playthrough ever. Too bad I lost my ancestors map.
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>>181120902
>Too bad I lost my ancestors map.
didn't the shrieker have it?
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>>181120902
Success so clearly in view... or is it merely a trick of the light?
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odd they changed the HWM background art
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>>181120942
No I havent met the shrieker yet. Met the collector twice and had to run both times.
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>>181121282
>Met the collector twice and had to run both times.
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>>181120229
>Tier 5: Antiquarian

Your measle power means nothing when I can buy out all the competition, fool
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>Enraging Slight on your Snort

What do you think he said to him, /dadg/?
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>>181121893
>measle power
THE LEPER ONLY GROWS STRONGER WITH EACH NEW CONTAGION
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>>181122060
>casul
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>>181122092
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>>181120229
is antiquarian really that bad?
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>>181120229
I have honestly no idea what this is even based on, like all tier 4 characters are still pretty strong. Are you saying all classes are viable/good?
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>>181122492
I dunno, I always thought of it more of a loot driven character rather than actually used for fighting, maybe something of a bragging rights in using it to defeat certain bosses.

I like to use it mostly with Protect Me! with someone who benefits from getting hit, like Man-At-Arms or Flagellant. I don't find really "MUST HAVE" combo, though, I just use it for the loot it can end up getting.
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>>181084886
>Double Leper
Murphy's Law/10
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Hey guys, what's changed from back before the actual darkest dungeon released, i beat all the zone bosses forms but couldn't be assed coming back. Are low torch teams still OP as fuck?
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>>181122919
>>I dunno, I always thought of it more of a loot driven character rather than actually used for fighting
thats exactly what it is

she's an escort mission

>>181122948
jester is best class, flagellant is good

few more bosses added, dlc is scripted like the DD and they are huge like DD 3
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>>181120286
It's actually significantly faster to gain stress by retreating from the fight a few times. You just need to manage your stress slightly so that only the hero currently carrying the +virtue trinkets gets the affliction check.
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Any actually good character mods worth my time? Shit that is actually balanced, for one.
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When is it a good idea to use Leper's Purge skill? Seems pretty useless to me desu.
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>>181123321
>>It's actually significantly faster to gain stress by retreating from the fight a few times.
i somehow played this long without realizing retreating from a fight gave you stress

>>181123397
pit fighter seems decent
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>>181119274
>People say mosquito vampires are 'unique'
They are though. They make a lot more sense as well since there are only 3 species of bats that feed solely on blood while all mosquitoes/tics/etc. feed solely on blood.
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>>181121156
I know right? The new one doesn't fit the artstyle very well.
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>>181123414
when pushing the melee guy behind the ranged one makes them both useless

corpse clearing is also a thing

works vs stress pirate in champion cove too
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>>181081049
>losing to necromancer
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>>181123578
yea someone mentioned it on the past few threads

took me a while to notice, but now i cant unsee it

odd choice since they are all done by the same guy and once you notice it this one sticks out
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What's a good viscount party?
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>>181124370
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>>181124474
i know, i wasn't expecting the red key to be in that location and since that corridor was locked (got scout) i didn't bother going there. Instead i visited every single room and now back at the entrance
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>>181124370
how do you find those treasure rooms? I had high scouting chance and in the baron run I never discovered them, but I know that there is one there
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>>181124867
"Perfect scout", the ones with a 2 room-radius, with the secret room in range.
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>>181120229
>leper tier 4
>flagellant tier 4
>crusader is on higher tier than leper and flagellant
>grave robber is on lower tier than arbalest
>hellion tier 2
holy shit you couldn't have made this list worse
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>>181124370
>>181124474
so in order to loot the treasures beyond blue gate, you need to literally move across the realm, popssibly getting 5-6 hunger checks on your way.
>kill counterss
>go all the way back to green gate, get blue key
>go all the way fucking back around to blue gate, possibly encountering more monsters on your already tired heroes
>go beyond the fucking blue gate to fight even more monsters
how can you even do this on one go? if you regroup, the quest will count as complete, and you wont be able to return, right?
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>>181125023
thats a shame, what was in the baron secret room?
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>>181125439
They're just level 5 heroes that you can hire from stagecoach
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>>181088806
Them money runs with Antiquarian though.
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>>181125387
>how can you even do this on one go?
occultist, flagellant, hellion, jester

>if you regroup, the quest will count as complete, and you wont be able to return, right?
yes, the quest is complete and you cannot re-enter
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>>181088806
>>181125717
>not using Flagelant with antiquarian constantly hiding behind his scarred back
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>>181088460
you don't need to upgrade anything in a specific order to win

obvious shit like upgrading the stagecoach first will make it easier, but is by no means mandatory to do it immediately

just play safe and take as few risks as possible

you can't even get a game over outside of hardmode anymore
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>yfw Finale Jester with damage trinkets
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>>181126135

>leper with one accuracy and one speed + damage trinket
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The poor caretaker
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>>181126918
Fuck that, that nigger charges me so much money for shit. Do you know how much money that fucker is making off of you? Not to mention all the free facility usage...
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lads
i'm scared
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>>181127121
His longstanding duties here have affected his pricing
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>>181127621
And brothel habits
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was kinda alright but i wish i didn't lose my only hellion
i don't know how she died though, she was there one moment then BOOM deathblow. I suppose it's the love letter
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>can't go to penance hall
>won't drink
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candle of life + junia's head does not turn the antiquarian into a healer

>>181127942
could be a suicide if she was afflicted, not sure if the curse can make them self harm
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>>181128073
>he didn't get rid of the negative quirk immediately
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>>181120286
Wait, if you get to 0 stress the affliction goes away?
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>>181128151
>str(ange)_death_effect_effect
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>>181128476
yes
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>>181128476
yes
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>34% crit chance on Arbalest
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>>181128917
>Arbalest
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>>181129039
?
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>>181129039
you gotta problem with that fuckboy
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>>181129097
Away beast
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>>181129239
>this is supposed to replace a tanky ranged unit
yeah, no
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do i lock on on guard or quick reflexes? on dismas
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>>181129823
both
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>>181129823
honestly this >>181129856
But if I had to choose I'd say quick reflexes.
On Guard is best if the fights don't take a long time, which becomes increasingly less likely in the higher difficulty dungeons.
So I'd rather have quick reflexes to benefit him the whole fight.
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Wait, do you actually have to read the journal pages before finishing the mission for them to get added?
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post'em
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>>181130052
>On Guard is best if the fights don't take a long time, which becomes increasingly less likely in the higher difficulty dungeons.
On Guard/Quick Draw, Quick Draw Charm and stacking Ambush chance are absolutely the best things to have in champion dungeons because of high priority champion-exclusive enemies.
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>>181130207
you have to keep them in your inventory
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>>181130216
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>>181129239
musketeer's sprites are pretty shite compared to the other heroes by now
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>>181130241
Yeah, I just found the entries in the memoir after taking another glance (fucking keratoconus). For a second I was about to quit playing again since I found four fucking entries and left a good chunk o' loot behind, then thought the game fucked me outta them.
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>>181130216
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>>181130267
>>181130407
i feel like a baby
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>>181130216
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>>181130216
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>>181131431
i have exactly 153 hours too
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>>181130216
Good game
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>>181119274
>someone drew the Plague Doctor getting turned into a mosquito girl
You think you can mention this and walk away without a source?
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>>181119274

Furfag here, I have never seen a mosquito vampire furry

most furries fucking hate bugs
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Just started playing and loving it but a little confused. Can I only really use food to heal without a healer? I only really have gotten 1 healer so far.

Also are there any mods that properly implement the Musketeer?
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>just beat the first darkest dungeon segment
>towns people now start randomly flickering looking all fucked up
I didn't sign up for this shit
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>>181133248

>Can I only really use food to heal without a healer?

Depends. You don't necessarily want to use up all your food incase you roll a food check. Plus, several classes have access to healing skills for either themselves (Houndmaster, Leper) or variants with drawbacks (Occultist's Wyrd, Arbalest's bandage)

>Also are there any mods that properly implement the Musketeer?

I know there's one that keeps getting passed round here, but I use the one on workshop for convenience sake:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=953863272

It comes with the assets too, so you don't need to download anything else
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>>181133329
happens to the locations on the embark screen too
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So, do you think heroes getting infected by Crimson Curse is overall a good thing, or bad?
At first I kicked low level heroes instantly if they got infected, but now that I get some of these special trinkets, I feel like the curse is an advantage.
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>>181133248
>>181133406
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=953863272
Do note that this is a class rebalance/addition/ custom class mod, rather than a reskin.
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>>181134939
i wanted to write a long reply but i just want to tell you

you are cute
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>>181133406
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=953863272
that actually looks pretty good, it always bothered me that unarmoured musketeer is as tanky as heavily armoured arbalest
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>>181135127

Honestly, I'd rather have the Musketeer as a class with her own stats/skills than as a reskin
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>>181135315
Yea, but then again, balancing her by users ain't gonna be pretty to be honest
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>>181135184
Honestly, I'd prefer a long reply..
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>>181135382

the one getting linked isn't that bad balance-wise. She can do more damage but can't deal crits as often, on top of having less health which could fuck her over

Plus she doesn't have a proper healing move; it got replaced with a stress heal
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>>181135315
Come on famalan it's right there
>>181081613
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>>181134939
it's not. You basically lose control over your heroes and that's never a good thing.
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>>181136023
>he doesn't deliberately infect all of his heroes and give them afflictions to let them play the game by themselves
Get on my level
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>>181120229
Have you actually had a Flagellant in your party?
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>>181135567
well i think crimson curse is good for boss fights, but not for the normal ones since they are really easy

so basically for the darkest dungeon and for courtyard its really good to have if you are struggling with damage
but then again its not required for anything and overall it just makes runs more complicated and even more RNG heavy

if anything i'd put it on a leper, BH or a hellion those are the damage dealer classes i use in DD
on utility classes or healers its absolutely not needed

the answer is basically No if we look at the bigger picture
there is already stress, negative perks, diseases etc
its just another cuckblocking mechanic

also you are still cute
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>>181136287
>Party beats the shit out of the only black hero thanks to bloodlust
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best party against brigant vvulf?
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>>181137137
vestal/bh/bh/maa
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>>181137506

>*snorts*
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>>181137137
Have beaten him 3 times with maa,vestal,hm,bh
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Why is the Houndmaster so well regarded here? I just feel like other members would do his role much better.
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>>181114687
Dude, the first shit that should do, is ask the devolpers for all possible comands to use in the data of the game. For example the new abilites of the flagellant are this. if we knew more about this, modding would be more "meaningful"
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>>181137536
just mark him once, then proceed to use COLLECT bounty. Even if he uses guard and spawns a brigand, use COLLECT on the spawn of brigand shit.
THEY COME TO COLLECT
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>>181137732
has the best stun in the game, his standard attack can hit all 4, has mark sinergy and leaves bleed, amazing dodge tank with protect for some mobs (like the giant in the weald) can heal himself to get out of dd and stress heal the party (less efective).
His mark gives -30 prot.
Hes also one of the totally ''good characters'' has a cute doggo,
His camp skills are pretty good too (the non ambush +20% surprise -20% get surprised is amazing)
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>>181137732
his utility is unmatched as >>181138123 explained
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>>181120229
>Flag tier four
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>>181138386
He took him to ruins I presume
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>>181127303
She's piss easy.
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>>181130216
It's actually closer to 500 hours because I've played the game a lot in offline mode, but this is still a decent amount of time.
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Is Vestal the character with biggest issues?

Everytime she loses it she gets a lot more disturbing than anyone else.
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post flagellant
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>>181139095
Just bled her to death but i need to know how Love Letter and her time-bomb works
i actually got a back-up save before her, i need to learn all the mechanics
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>>181139457
i need to get a quick rundown on each character
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>>181138964
That's the only excuse, but even that's not a good one because there are plenty of bleedable enemy encounters in the ruins and you should be able to figure out that, even if he's not good in the Ruins, he should be good in other places.
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Vestal chained stunned. Lost only Jester and Highwayman on way to Viscount. How do I even go on playing
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>>181137708
thanks anon
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>>181139583
Read the text from every classes set trinkets

http://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Trinkets
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>>181139910
More specifically... just give MAA at least one good Prot item. Use guard on whoever Vvulf places the bomb on.

Against Vvulf, DoTs are amazing because he goes 3 times per round. I just cakewalked through him easily with PD, Vestal, Flag, MAA about 10 min ago.
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>>181140082
i got unlucky with the trash mobs gangbanging the vestal

the bossfight was easy, stress was through a madman who kept using accusation on the vestal and i kept missing hits on him so he stayed alive too long
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>>181139583

Crusader - fell in love with war and could never go back to his family
Highwayman - killed a woman and child while holding up a coach
Plague Doctor - kicked out of university for unethical experiments
Leper - ruler who exiled himself after getting the fateful disease
Arbalest - former child soldier
Grave Robber - disgraced nobility who turned to stealing from the dead to pay her debts
Houndmaster - former lawman who left policing after he found they were corrupt
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>>181140412
I thought leper was a prince?
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>heh the statue is easy
>destroy the shield and arm
>mfw
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>>181140645
>Bleed team against stonework
The absolute madman
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>Steady, girl. If we're called, we answer.
Why is houndmaster the best class?
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>>181140859
it actually works, Hellion/HM can still hit for craploads of damage. Flaggellant is only there because i still have to go through CC mobs
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>>181134939
on dps heroes sure, but you don't want it on too many people or you run low on blood

they can attack allies and stuff, but its usually worth it for 25% damage
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>>181140487
He's based off a real life king
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is that anon still working on changing musketeer into her own class
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>>181140487

Nope he is based on Baldwin the Leper king of Jerusalem
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>>181140926
>was a lawman before going to the DD
>discovered corruption in the justice system and sought to eliminate it
>turns out the corruption stretched so high up the command structure the police chief was part of it
>presumably turned in his badge and wound up in the hamlet to find some form of justice in this misbegotten world
>his getting hit sprite shows him protecting his dog
>even when afflicted he will still prioritize his dog's safety first
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>>181141506
>mfw he was so based even muslims feared and respected him
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>>181141816
"Martha"
"WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME"
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>>181141816
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>>181141983
>I KNEW IT!
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>>181139583
antiquarian is a power hungry cultist
jester is a mystery, he may have killed a king
flagellant is just a extra crazy zealot
abom got beat up by the church and probably looking for a cure or is ready to die like the leper
man at arms has survivors guilt
occultist may be here trying to eliminate the horror that haunts him
vestal can't keep her mind off sex
hellion was exiled from her tribe
bounty hunter just here to get paid
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>>181142206
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>>181142281
>bounty hunter just here to collect
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>>181140412
>>181141535
>>181142281
NEW COMICS WHEN
THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA HAVE NEW ONES LEADING UP TO THE CRIMSON COURT RELEASE
WHY'D YOU LIE BOURASSA, THEY'RE ONLY ONE GOD DAMN PAGE
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>>181133156
>furfag here
Stay down in the Warrens, beast.
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>>181142281

don't forget the antiquarian may or may not have killed an innocent woman
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>>181142842
they breed
quickly
down there in the tunnels
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>shrieker escaped with 5hp
>not have to heal stress and quirks
>jester not available for 3 weeks
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>>181142842

pig furries are fucking gross man
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>>181142379
We will never know what kind of fucking train-wreck happened for his stress to be that bad before fighting the necromancer APPRENTICE
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>>181142938
>shrieking flight crits because fuck you
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>>181122492

You can't rely on her for combat, but she has a pretty good focus on support/looting

You could probably get a really good teamup going with her and Man-At-Arms
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>>181142281
bounty hunter's trinkets imply he has some sort of grudge against a number of crime lords, perhaps being the reason why he took up bounty hunting in the first place
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>>181120047
This fellow figured out the closest thing there is to his coat

http://eclipse-strider.tumblr.com/post/127131303916/so-ive-kinda-figured-out-what-i-would-need-for
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>>181142281
More like vestal is super damaged goods. She was probably really heavily abused by the church, and doesn't even properly believe any of it and has no idea why her magic works.

And after DD run she can't go to church anymore because she concludes there is no god.
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>>181142281
>>181140412

What about the musketeer?
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>>181114687

Why is his right arm so fucking long?

His knuckles could legit drag along the floor
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>>181143779

>>181140071
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>>181143915
mad she got second place and her senpai doesn't notice her
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>>181119446
hold up, is this an actual skin mod, or are you going to crush my yellow dreams
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>>181143904
I think his sleeves are just really poofy and making his arms seem longer than they actually are.
Or he's a gorilla.
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>>181141535
It always was sweet that even a selfish HM will clarify that his dogs needs come first, then he's next and everyone else can fuck off to the back of the line
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>>181144036
Sorta petty when you compare it to the others.
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>beat countess
>beat the statue twice
>that soul crushing emptiness haunting every inch of my body
i guess it's time for Bloodmoon
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>>181118468
>>181118803

Honestly if you're ok with recycled assets from vanilla classes and tenuous english, you could probably try out the actionjack class mods
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koreans really like this game

why?
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Wish me luck anons
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>>181145063

they dig the stinky life
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Can I beat the horrid shrieker with one Helion level 5 and the rest level 4 and 3?
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>>181145128

Why would anyone want to be a crimson vampire if it means having to be swarmed by mosquitoes for the rest of your life
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>>181144410
Grave robber and especially Antiquarian are less sympathetic compared to the rest of the classes as well
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>>181145063
>tfw gf is korean

maybe i should show her there can be no hope in the hell, no hope at all.
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>>181145406
>having a corean gf
I'd rather a taiwanese chink or a nip than a gook if I ever wanted to racemix
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>>181145063
>>181145406
i spent the last three months in Korea and nobody i spoke with even heard of it
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>>181145158
what is even the explanation for this

does "stinky life" mean "dirty past", or is hwm just violently opposed to sanitation
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>>181145280
It seems implied that GR's father/husband/whoever that guy in the painting was, was responsible for her financial ruin that lead to her grave robbing, so I'll cut'er some slack. Antiquarian on the other hand may be the only outright evil """hero""" if the implication of her final comic panel is what it seems to be.
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>>181145158
I swear I can never see any human DD character with eyes with it being odd looking, guess that's what an art style does to you

>>181146054
You can assume that it's supposed be a dark and troubled past, but the translators goofed up a little

That or the GR has gone crazy again and is describing the Hamlets condition in the most childish way possible
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>>181146054
apparently the original korean is:
아닌 척 내숭 떨고 있지만 냄새가 풀풀 풍기고 있다고. 뼛속 깊은 곳에서부서 시궁창 냄새가 말이야

according to google translate:
>Not pretending to be pretentious, but the smell fades. Deep smell from the debris.

according to some guy:
>You are trying to act casual, but you can't hide the stinky smell (sewer?) from me.
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>>181146197
it's implied in the last panel that Grave Robber didn't stop after looting just her husband's grave in order to pay denbts, and for her to go to the hamlet is obviously the biggest opportunity of her life to get rich looting from some extremely rich guy (the Ancestor)
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>>181145929
military?
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>>181146561
Yeah, but at least she's sticking to robbing graves. It might not be very respectful to the dead, but what do they need treasure for anyway?
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>>181146661
just screwing around as i had free-accomodation through volunteer work
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is Deadly worth locking in?
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>>181147181
No.
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>>181146796
She's being a career criminal by choice and not at all remorseful for doing it
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>>181147060
>do volunteer work
>get free accommodation in korea
How does that even work
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>>181123621
>letting necro summon three skeletons
Not sure if he was going in blind, but he manages to make one stupid decision after the other in this vid. If anything, this shows just how important preparation is in this game
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>>181147340
I found this place that offers English classes to people who want to improve their English speaking. They solely rely on volunteers from other countries who can speak English and in return they offer accomodation and some food. I spent $600 total in the three months i spent there (excluding flight tickets of course)
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>bring arby / occ / flag / maa for the first time viscount fight
>don't bring any trinkets except commons because i expect to die
>beat him in under 2 turns
what the fuck? this was literally the second easiest boss battle ive ever had, only behind necromancer
baron and the fanatic fuck me constantly so i expected this boss to be similar
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>>181147303
Like I said, pilfering from the dead. Would you feel all that guilty if you lived in the fuck-awful Darkest Dungeon universe, and the only thing you ever stole from was a lifeless skellington? Most of the other characters are career killers. There're much worse ways to make illegitimate coin than nicking jewelry off long-dead and forgotten bodies.
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Can you ever redo the Crimson Court dungeons in a given playthrough? I want to get all the trinkets.
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>>181147612
The cost of preparedness measure now in gold. Later, in blood.
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>>181148086
After killing the countess you get random missions there I think.
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>>181147880
My point still stands that she's hardly a heroic character compared to the rest of the assorted misfits by any large margin
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>>181147880

Her sin isn't robbing graves

Her sin is being such a little bitch about it
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>>181145158
>Koreans
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>yfw Treebranch Smackdown
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>>181148274
Well I was only making the case that she wasn't evil, not that she's heroic, so I can't really argue with you there.

>>181148307
Rude
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>tfw just realized that "virtue chance" is the % to go virtuous in battle, not the chance to pick a positive quirk
>have a whole bunch of nonvirtuous quirks on heroes that i let lock in because they were already leveled

fugg :DDD
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>>181123397
I tried out the three mods by whoever made trapmaker, aside from trapmaker being able to disarm all traps without a chance for failure they all seemed good
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>>181148876
>-dmg% debuff from Occ makes it hit for 5 damage
beautiful
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>>181148876
>not using guard
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any simple draw request?

alternatively some audio file extraction or very simple stuff like the combined siren song?
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>>181148876
>he doesnt take a Flagellant in the weald
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>>181148934
also apparently some patch preemptively ended the darkest dungeon quest i was on and chucked all my heroes out to the hamlet without forcing the loss penalty

which was good, because my team was about to party wipe
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>>181149319
Therapy Dog on the only member left in a party.
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>>181149319
Something cute with grace robber
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>>181148086
after the countess dies you can kill the statue boss over and over to farm trinkets and blueprints
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>>181149319

The Flagellnt with the devo hat
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>>181148876
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The curse barks are pretty neat.
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>The A Team
arbalest, antiquarian, abom, man at arms
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>>181150485
>that comp
more like the gay team
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what's your favorite quote in the game? hard mode: no REMIND YOURSELF
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>>181150986
>Watch your step...
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>>181150986
Another soul battered and broken, cast aside like a spent torch.
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>>181150986
A
TRICK
OF
THE
LIGHT
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>>181150986
>Bring me a small dog. So crunchy. Mmm.
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>>181150986
Monstrous size has no intrinsic merit, unless inordinate exsanguination be considered a virtue.
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>>181150986
*snort*
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>>181113734
His bleed got nerfed last patch.
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>>181150986
DESTROY. THEM. ALL.
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>>181152175
The Cudgel weight also got nerfed
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>>181152492
truly, the steadfast hound was too powerful.
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>>181114427
>>181117254

they're fucking gay
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>>181148980

They really need their art and text redone. They're hacked together from other class sprites and it's really obvious for some of them.
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>>181152492
So me taking it on every hm has been a mistake so far? I've still got a guaranteed stun with every blackjack so I still like it.
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>>181150986
>Stoke the bonfire and tie the noose - justice is nigh!
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>>181152932
It's an alright trinket, just not as good as it once was
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>>181152856
Yeah I noticed that as well, but I mean make do with what you can, they all were pretty nice in what they did though
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>>181150986
>>181152692
Damned be the Light! My humors churn with lust!
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How many crocs are in the court on the "kill a baron" quest?
Last run was basically
>enter dungeon
>kill croc
>immediately leave the dungeon after fight
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>>181153240
2
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>>181081613
It didn't ask me to overwrite anything, is this normal?
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>>181153221

Do you think Dismas insists Reynauld keep his helmet on when they sin-
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>>181153406
Goddamnit, thats one too many..
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>>181153675
delete this you infidel
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RATS IN A MAZE
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>>181153738
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>>181123397
i like the seer, prodigy, and revenant
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why does not the darkest dungeon have unholy versions of the heroes who have died?
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>do the Swine God dungeon with a team to specifially kill the Swine God
>almost get wiped at the first battle
>retreat and get a team to clean my way to the Swine god
>find a map and take the cleanest route
>kill the masses crits twice in a row
>kill the piece of shit
>2 adventurers die to squealing
>Hellion tanking squeals at death's door
>little swine is at 14 health because of blight
>gamble
>kill it in one hit
>leave
i fucking hate bossfights in this game
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From a combat perspective, how would you make the Antiquarian better/viable ?
You can change her abilites in any way you like.
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>>181150986
HAH Let those dirty beasts worship the mud now
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>HM goes Courageous
>"I am the Law!"
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>>181150986
BACK TO THE PIT.
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>>181088858
>...
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ideas for four bosses for each dungeon ?
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>>181150986
anger is power. unleash it!
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>>181150986
SOOTHED. SEDATED.
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>>181150986
>...Hm?
Or alternatively
>Steady, girl. If we're called, we answer.

I like the relaxed/accepting final boss barks. Especially since Bounty Hunter doesn't even seem to care.
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>>181154901

>Flashpowder affects the entire enemy team
>Invigorating Vapors gives extra dodge
>Heal cures blight (but not bleed so she's not too much in plague doctor territory)
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>>181155843
But then what is the point to debuff acc on enemies when you can just stack dodge ?
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>>181155229

>Larger skeleton made out of smaller skeletons that detach from it as you damage it
>fungus-corrupted bear
>Human raised by pigmen
>kraken
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>>181150986

Hellion's Heart of Darkness bark

Send me to hell then! AAAKLYORAAAHHH!
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>>181154901
Remove her stab, replace it with a row 4 stun (Or something)
Make her focused on increasing survivability. Maybe give her a Heal Over Time effect so we have someone that could be taken on missions in lieu of a vestal of Occultist.
But I generally think she's fine. Making her good at combat would ruin the point of her character, but I definitely think that if she can't fight, then she should have more powerful options than Invigorating Vapors or 1 health heal.
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i hate ruins

i love warrens

cove is boring

weald is meh
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>>181156047
>i love warrens
You will hate them when you reach champion.
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>>181156047
Cove is just a chore.
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>>181156047
>>181156216
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>Courtyard doesn't become a regular dungeon after beating the Countess
Why do they keep doing this shit? I can let it slide for the Darkest Dungeon itself but there's no reason the Courtyard should essentially be abandoned after the Countess. I mean it's cool it has a new boss afterwards but I don't want to have to fight a boss every time I go there.
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>>181156216
but im at champions and i love it, its so easy
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>>181156337
DELET THIS
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>>181156426
>but im at champions and i love it
No, you're not.
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Is there a way to decrease the spawn of Crimson Court monsters in other dungeons?
I really hate that half of all the groups consist of the same flies+stewards+vomitguys at high infestation, even when your not actually in the Crimson Court.
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>>181156985
i have no idea why everybody is whining about warrens, its so easy

and yes i am
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>>181154901

Maker her blight and -acc debuff a little tiny big better.

Still, she is quite powerful with good teams
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>>181156385
its odd considering they could just have you burn some nests again along with the usual explore and room battles

would be cool if they had a blood harvesting mission to feed your vampires

>>181156989
killing the boss is the only way i think
>>
Any good teams for the first darkest dungeon mission? I was thinking Occ/Arb/BH/MaA but I might need this comp in one of the later DD missions.
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>>181157507
>killing the boss is the only way i think
No way to mod this shit? Its really quite stupid when you go to the Cove, but all you meet is vampires.
Next trip to the Ruins, only vampires again.
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>>181157552
This seems like a good team for all the missions, so it's your choice. None of them is really all that easy.
But switch Arbalest and Occultist.
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>>181157552
I had a lot of trouble with DD1. Shuffling horror wiped the floor with me.

Bring stress heals and stuns. Believe in yourself.
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>>181157918
Well I have been using a Jester on all difficult missions so far. Finale + the new building is just way too strong. 84 crits are not unheard of. Pulled me through the Viscount and Vvulf fight with relative ease.

>>181157934
Maybe a Leper for the first one since he can heal his own stress? I have one at level 6 that I don't really use all that often, might aswell give him the candle (or watch him die) so I can develop some sterner stock.
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>>181157552
occ bh sader jester

this clears it without any problem whatsoever
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>>181158234
>Leper
hope you like getting shuffled
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Anyone have any fanart of heroes becoming vampires?
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>>181158472
I don't really see him getting used on any of the other missions. He hits hard but I have found zero use for him that other characters can't do better. I might just not be using him to the best of his abilities though. I never used the Jester till this playthrough because I thought he was pretty terrible.
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>>181158234
Leper is a bad idea since Shuffling Horror loves to mess with your lineup.

The stress heals are mostly for the dungeon - they make you fight dozens of Cultists before you reach the boss.
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>>181150986
"Spare the others. I am ready."

The Leper is kind of tough to build a party around, but he has the best lines.
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Ok I managed to beat the fanatic. I don't get why people made such a big deal of this guy. I just had a decent team that ranged from 1 to 3 level, and used basic boss tactics like continuosly inflicting him damage over time effects while the healer took care of the team.
He won't come back once I killed him right?
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>>181158683
>"Rain in the mud." after a double 40+ hew crit

How can you not love the man? I need some leper fanart stat
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So how do you use the Jester, I never could be bothered to use him
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>>181159795
just be yourself man
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>>181114687
hey that actually looks really good, and could be a decent character
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>>181159152
wrong
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>>181159795
make enemies bleed and sing songs to calm stressed characters
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Why is Iron Swan considered so good? It seems like nothing special to me.
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>>181159858
>>181160000
mainly when to use finale? seems like a big debuff
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>>181158597
jester is probably the best hero atm
leper just doesn't do anything better than anyone else

for example the flagellant does only slightly less damage than a leper, but has much more he can do
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>>181150986
>Slumped shoulders, wild eyes, and a stumbling gait - this one is no more good to us

>>181155673
a lot of final lines are really cool, the MaA, Occultist, a ton of others
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>>181160256
Hits the back rank where the srtess dealers are.
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>>181159245
>>181159245
isnt it blood in the mud?

>>181160256
hits decently hard and is one of the few front line moves that can hit position 4.

>>181160262
usually start jester up front and finale on the first move, jesters speed will usually let you kill something before they get a turn, then he can sit at the back and buff/stress heal
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>>181160595
>finale
>usually gets used in the first round
hmm
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>>181160256
only position 1 skill that can hit rank 4 for full damage
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>>181160595
Yeah it is blood in the mud, and rain in the fall. I just mixed the two for some reason.

Rain in the mud sounds sick too.
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>>181160595
Isn't solo + finale the usual combo.

Its what i been using on for the whole courtyard.

I usually buff my team with ballad then solo finale Squishy/Debuffed enemies.
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>>181160262
he hits for good damage even after the debuff, just be sure to give him +ACC since you do not want to miss with a finale

for bosses you can just use herbs after finale or move to rank 2-3 and bleed them
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champion croc is fucking insane
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>boss gets my guy with crimson curse to death's door
>Go to heal him
>He won't be healed because of the curse
>Boss kills him next action

What was I supposed to do there?
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Well here we go. Doubt it will be to hard with the Jester deleting any enemy at the start of the battle.
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>>181162015
>What was I supposed to do there?
Don't get cursed.
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>>181162015
not take a cursed guy into a boss, not get cursed, avoid deaths door by playing safer, have more than 1 character than can heal, guard him, stun boss or retreat
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>>181160892
Solo+finale is the INTENDED combo, probably. It's just way better imo to turn a battle into a 3v4 right out the gate.
I personally use Finale first and I've never loved a class so much.
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>>181162134
>Doubt it will be too hard
Don't forget to remind yourself
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>>181161817
I got apex'd critted for 35 damage on two of my gals.

Thank god i killed him after he moves to position 1.
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>>181162376
Jokes on the ancestor, I already knew the outcome.
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>>181162484
>Kiru falconhoof
That's an, uh, interesting name.
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>>181162357
Since CC i always run a flagelant position 1 or 2 and a tank position 1 or 2.

Hes way too good,he can be a backup healer aswell with his insane 50% heal at low hp.

Hope he doesnt get nerfed.
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>>181162628

kill jester
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>>181162628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzKo1JPNf4s

Kiru is a mate of mine, Falconhoof is from the video. My other jester is simply called Kill Jester.
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>>181162303
>>181162337
>Don't get cursed when every zone is max infested
>Play safer by not getting crit on the first round for 34 damage

???

>Boss goes
>Healer goes, fails to heal, fails to stun with full stun trinkets
>Boss goes again
>Guy dies
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>>181149591
like this?
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Koreans were the best thing to happen to this community.

Chinese language review bombers beat out Celerity for the worst. Impressive!
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>>181163208
I feel the need to flog my dick right now.
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>>181162882
>>>Don't get cursed when every zone is max infested
kill the CC boss to clear the infection

>>Play safer by not getting crit on the first round for 34 damage
increase your defense

>>>Boss goes
>>Healer goes, fails to heal, fails to stun with full stun trinkets
>>Boss goes again
>>Guy dies
increase your speed

what boss exactly crit you for 34 then took another turn? what was your party?
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>>181163208
>Chinese language review bombers beat out Celerity for the worst.
They don't have 1337 hours in the game though.
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>>181161817
whew, these guys did much better
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>>181163453
Maybe if you add all of them together.
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>>181158683
I love him. He has never failed me

Post more leper
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>>181161817
Bring occ and vestal and just damage debuff it
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>>181163409
You may as well just said "thats the luck of the draw".
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I wonder what determines a hero's chance to resist Horror.
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>>181161817
>bringing bleed
hehehe
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>>181164882
can't give specific advice when all he said is "boss crit me turn 1 then hit him again turn 3"

can't even think of what boss crits that hard, is that fast and moves twice in 1 round
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>>181164501
>damage debuff
>with %120 debuff resist
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>>181163208
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>>181157072
What's your strategy?
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>>181165513
I don't full understand how skill vs resistance works but a level four occultist has 129% base chance for weakening curse. The district for him increases that by 15 and trinkets can increase it by an additional 30 I think.
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>killing the Garden Guardian's shield
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put in your guesses
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>>181166172
Demon's Cauldron and Cursed Incense give +40% debuff chance each. A fully-upgraded Occultist with both trinkets and the district buff should get up to 235% debuff chance on his weakening curse.
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top or bottom
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>>181163009

Yes, many thanks bro
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>>181166591
bottom looks slightly shorter and has no fight so id go there first
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Is upgrading the nomad worth it?
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>>181166989
No.
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Do I keep going or retreat? Losing one guy is better than all three.
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>>181166989
yes, good source of trinkets

saves you time when hunting down important ones like sun/moon rings
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>>181154901
I think she's fine since shes like a crusader in terms of utility but faster and shitty. On the brightside, her dagger can be used from any position to finish off enemies or even a small heal can save someone from DD, best skill is the forced guard.
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>>181167545
looks pretty easy
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>>181167545
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>realizing you forgot shovels
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>>181167761
Retreat. How did you lose one guy?
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>>181166989
Maybe.
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>>181167819
>WITHOUT TOOLS, YOU MUST RELY ON FLESH AND INDEFATIGABLE PURPOSE
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>that fucking croc party wipe

yeah fuck that dlc
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>>181169049
>party wipe
you have only yourself to blame.
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>>181168976
>Without tools of iron
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>>181169049
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>>181081613
Could you please make it as a mod? It would be easier to turn it on/off.
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>>181169049
>>181169049
>Suffer not the lame horse... nor the broken man.
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>>181169632
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>>181169827
i have too many tabs open
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>>181170383
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>>181169984
>not using thread watcher
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Does anyone have a map of the courtyard (the baron one)

I keep getting nothing but supplicants spawning in regular dungeons and it's getting annoying
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Lads, I need you to relax your anus for what I'm about to say.
I like my games to be tough, but I do not like time limits. Period. It's got nothing to do with difficulty either, I just hate knowing that I can't take my time with shit.
Is there any way I can play through Stygian/Bloodmoon mode without getting fucked over by the time limit? I haven't played the game normally, but I won't play through twice so I want to play on the hardest mode just without the dumb time limit.
Anybody know a way to bypass the time limit preferably without me losing out on getting the achievements you get for completing that mode?
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>>181170726
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>>181166563
yeah but the problem is APEX also uses skills to pull the heroes towards it and i'd rather give my backliners move-resist rather than debuff increasers
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Is the DLC very intrusive to the main game? I never really got far in base game but I want to give it another shot and I'm debating on whether to get the dlc or not.

I know that the dlc enemies can spawn in other areas but is that just a thing that happens or do you trigger it by doing the dlc dungeon?
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Lost my god damn only Jester to the viscount. Had him at 3 hp before he got a 50 hp heal and ruined everything
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>>181170878
Thanks babe.

Do crimson court enemies stop spawning for a while after you take out the baron? They've become at least half of the enemies I've encountered in normal dungeons
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>>181171417
>not killing the Square Meal and Ravenous Feast
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>>181170835
When I played Stygian I didnt notice the time limit at all, it's more than enough to clear it all, it's pretty much a measure to make sure youre not sloppy
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What's the lore about the characters fighting together with copies of themselves?
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>>181171615
>those muffled screams as you attack the bodies
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>>181171694
Was it your first time playing the game though? I usually play extremely safely and slowly in just about every game I play. I don't know what any of the bosses are going to be like either so I'll probably overprep for them which I'm assuming will eat up more time.
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>>181170671
i have thread watcher, only 2 of the tabs are 4chan, i just clicked on the wrong one because i was tilted
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>>181171417
>Lost my only Jester to champion croc
>Town event brings him back half an ingame year later

I missed him so much.
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>>181170383

that's fucking beautiful
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>>181170835
You can edit that out in the game files
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now that we have 16 heroes, anyone trying highlander runs?

>>181171458
yes
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>>181171706

Just other people in the same line of work as them. That's what the alternate skins are for.

We need more skins that are more than palette reskins.
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>>181172859
....Highlander?
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>>181173161
Having only one of each hero in your roster I'm assuming.
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>>181173161
there can only be one (of each class)
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>Get back from harrowing first sortie into second CC area
>Return to this
Just steal all my shit senpai I don't have to actually kill this thing to get my trinkets back,
do I?
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Is there a mod/edit to make the game's animations faster?
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>>181173268
you do not have to kill the bird
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>>181173268
you need to live to the end of round 4
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>>181170835
For your first playthrough I'd heavily advise against starting at the highest difficulty, especially if you're going into the game blind. With that said, if you still want to jump in with Stygian/Bloodmoon you'll have to go into the files to change the time limit since I'm pretty sure there's no mod that does that. In the rules file just change new_game_plus_week_limit from 86 to whatever number you want, and you're good to go. Doing this won't fuck with your achievements, nor will installing any other mod. It will turn you into a massive faggot though, assuming you aren't one already for even considering doing this.
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>>181173429
Good. I only have one champion level team and it sure as hell isn't going to work at killing the bird.
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>>181173573

try killing the nest for dem big gainz
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>>181172859
Bloodmoon has a 16 death limit, so a challenge could be made.
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>you can Shift+click provisions to get a whole stack
Huh, you learn something new everyday
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>>181174002
>you can remove a negative and lock in a positive quirk at the same time

blew my mind
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>>181174002
I sure hope everyone uses T to increase the lights instead of clicking.
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>>181173683
>>181173493
>>181173429
>>181173268
It isn't going well
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Seeing a reduced CC chance on mods, would it make me a scrub to get it?
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>>181174327
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>>181174327
that will happen a lot
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>>181174002
>When looking at treasure you can right-click to use items on the spot without putting them in inventory.
Just learned this one.
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>>181174327
P
E
C
K
E
D
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>>181170835
The time limit is the only interesting thing about Stygian because of how it changes the way you play. Changing the enemies hp/damage and nothing else adds little to the game and is one of the worst ways to increase difficulty.
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I hate mirror matches.
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>>181174696
Don't insult the Collector like that.
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>>181174696
having a bh in 3 would have been better
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>>181174082
n-nani?!
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What does deck based stage coach even do?
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so gay

I don't know what I expected out of there.
But I did always find the Flagellant similar to the cultist brawler.
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>>181174327
>>181174396
>>181174506
Barely did it.
>>181174409
>That will happen a lot
>Happens literally 4 times in a row
I've never seen bleed stacks this high on a hero.
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>>181175493
What the fuck? Gay shit doesn't go well with Darkest Dungeon.
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>>181174082
Discovered this when the Sanatorium was free due to a town event. It was magnificent.
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>>181175625
Be glad I didn't save any Occultist x Abomination stuff
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>>181175508
4 times in a row is a lot :^)
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>>181171270
Teeth rake can only target the first 3 spots
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>>181175625
Didn't the artist retweet Reynauld x Dismas erotica at some point?
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>>181175804
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Haha did you guys see the new update?
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>>181177559
Oh sorry. It can only target the last three spots
>>
Jesterfags eternally ruined.

Jester’s Finale Skill Redesign (and Related)
Finale was too effective at one-shotting mobs without any real downside or lasting cost. Skill has been redesigned to preserve the intent as a powerful big mob finisher, which takes time and setup to achieve maximum power.
Finale
Battle limit of 1
Finale cannot crit
Finale accuracy increased greatly
Dramatically reduced base damage.
Finale leaves a 12 round DEF debuff, to represent exhaustion.
Other jester moves (“Dirk Stab”, “Inspiring Tune”, “Battle Ballad”) give a 7 round +20% stackable damage buff to Finale.
Solo
Accuracy increased
Battle Limit 2
Gives a 7 round +50% stackable damage buff to Finale.
NOTE: we want Finale to still feel awesome and vital, but it was wrecking the balance. We’ll be monitoring feedback on this redesign and will tune more if necessary to ensure it’s a valuable skill...but not toooooo valuable.
>>
Darkest Dungeon
Increased max available Quests by 1: more choices!
First pass on tuning curio interaction delays, bark times, and other stuff to help speed up delays.
Shrieker steal event will now only happen after week 40 and will only happen once per campaign.
Jester’s Finale Skill Redesign (and Related)
Finale was too effective at one-shotting mobs without any real downside or lasting cost. Skill has been redesigned to preserve the intent as a powerful big mob finisher, which takes time and setup to achieve maximum power.
Finale
Battle limit of 1
Finale cannot crit
Finale accuracy increased greatly
Dramatically reduced base damage.
Finale leaves a 12 round DEF debuff, to represent exhaustion.
Other jester moves (“Dirk Stab”, “Inspiring Tune”, “Battle Ballad”) give a 7 round +20% stackable damage buff to Finale.
Solo
Accuracy increased
Battle Limit 2
Gives a 7 round +50% stackable damage buff to Finale.
NOTE: we want Finale to still feel awesome and vital, but it was wrecking the balance. We’ll be monitoring feedback on this redesign and will tune more if necessary to ensure it’s a valuable skill...but not toooooo valuable.
Puppet Theatre cost increased and damage bonus decreased
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Darkest Dungeon
Increased max available Quests by 1: more choices!
First pass on tuning curio interaction delays, bark times, and other stuff to help speed up delays.
Shrieker steal event will now only happen after week 40 and will only happen once per campaign.
Jester’s Finale Skill Redesign (and Related)
Finale was too effective at one-shotting mobs without any real downside or lasting cost. Skill has been redesigned to preserve the intent as a powerful big mob finisher, which takes time and setup to achieve maximum power.
Finale
Battle limit of 1
Finale cannot crit
Finale accuracy increased greatly
Dramatically reduced base damage.
Finale leaves a 12 round DEF debuff, to represent exhaustion.
Other jester moves (“Dirk Stab”, “Inspiring Tune”, “Battle Ballad”) give a 7 round +20% stackable damage buff to Finale.
Solo
Accuracy increased
Battle Limit 2
Gives a 7 round +50% stackable damage buff to Finale.
NOTE: we want Finale to still feel awesome and vital, but it was wrecking the balance. We’ll be monitoring feedback on this redesign and will tune more if necessary to ensure it’s a valuable skill...but not toooooo valuable.
Puppet Theatre cost increased and damage bonus decreased
Reducing new Buff/Debuff Narration VO to be much more rare.
Fixed Monster attacks that could give incompatible quirks and crash the game.
Fixed Quirks being able to evolve while you are treating them.
Sped up several Cove Monsters Animations slightly (Now more they look more menacing!)
Fixed Equipping Trinkets out of the loot window.
Updated Man-at-Arms, Highwayman, and Vestals combat idle animations
Compressed some Tool-tip Strings (MaA Retribution)
Fixed from self heal skills not being able to trigger narration.
Standardized crit chances of heals.
Tooltip Formatting and UI fixes
Various string fixes
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THEY FUCKING RUINED JESTER
RRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>181178175
>>181178208
>>181178262
rip
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>The Blood now stacks at 6
Oh fuck.
>Bosses now award an Invite for the the subsequent boss (if you have already generated a boss quest this effect won’t appear until you start the next one.)
What?
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>>181160675
>>181178208
welp
>>
Is this what dying feels like
>>
the way redhook wants jester to be used renders him a nuisance and requires teams to be built around what is now a gimmick skill

what the fuck
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>>181178489
i assume it means if you kill the baron he drops an invite to the viscount
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>>181178489
since its under the CC part, we can assume it means finishing a courtyard mission rewards an invitation to the next one
>>
What did they mean by shrieker only showing up once?
Does this mean I can't get all the shriker trinkets now?
>>
1 2 R O U N D S D E B U F F
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And now a dirge for the fallen.
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>>181178489
Beating a CC boss gives a free invite to the next boss. If you've already beaten the Baron/Viscount in your current playthrough you won't get a retroactive invite for Viscount/Countess when the patch hits.
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>some constantly insult players on using the in game "cheat" options
>can no longer use a broken skill to cheese most fights
Oh no
>>
What's a good group for the Baron? I had a catholic+leper+bountyhunter+arbalest that went really south really quickly. The leper got critically tongue 3 times in a row and died of quadruple heart attacks
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>>181178829
it means he only steals your shit once

he still picks up shit you lose out in the field
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>>181179043
what if I don't intend to have people dying
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>>181178262
>Fixed equipping trinkets out of the loot window
What
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>>181179092
seems like it, which is odd
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>>181178997
Highwayman - Highwayman - Man at Arms - Man at Arms

You don't need to heal when Baron's getting hit by three quad-ripostes each turn.
>>
>spend 2/3/4 turns to stack damage on finale
>by that time every priority target is dead
Alright Finale was broken, but now what's the point ?
>>
>Crocodilian can no longer critically heal
T-thanks Red Hook...
>>
This game is FUCKING TRASH.
It is literally impossible to go into medium sized dungeons without a healer. Such a fucking awful game.
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>>181179342
Destroying bosses.
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>>181179419
Just bring a healer then
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>>181179419
git gud
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They ruined Jester.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Honestly, hey should have changed the bonuses of the Performance Hall building instead and left Jester untouched,
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>>181179419

You are such a fucking noob holy shit anon.
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>>181179419
H
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>>181179439
>takes time and setup to achieve maximum power.

this is the opposite of what you want on normal fights, it better do 100+ damage if they expect anyone to use it on bosses otherwise id rather have any other damage class
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>>181178175
>NOTE: we want Finale to still feel awesome and vital, but it was wrecking the balance.
I seriously wonder what they meant by this. What type of balance are they going for? Finale jester was strong but not strong enough to carry terrible players nor strong enough to the game trivial. With all the bullshit RNG it was nice to have a little something in the player's favor.
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>even the devs confuse the Puppet Theatre for the Performance Hall in the patch notes
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>>181179419
>Slumped shoulders, wild eyes, and a stumbling gait - this one is no more good to us.
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>>181179493
>>181179556
>>181179576
Fuck off, there's no getting good in this shitty game of dice.
All that happens is MISS MISS MISS *ENEMY HAS 5% STUN RESIST OH LOOK HE RESISTED MY FUCKING STUN ANYWAY HAHAHAHA*
Who the FUCK thought letting those stupid stress dealing faggots deal 30 stress a hit was a good idea? That's fucking retarded
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>>181178175
>Finale was too effective at one-shotting mobs
>imfuckingplying
It was a good skill, but limited ranks 1-3 only and put the Jester in a position where he couldn't deal much damage afterwards. Using solo to get back to rank 1 means you are not doing any damage.

It was a good turn 1 tactical nuke, but mark+arbalest/houndmaster/bounty hunter effectively achieve the same thing. The new Finale is pretty much useless.
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>>181179581
Exactly, the change could be good but it suffer from the same problem that all "buff abilities" share; you waste a turn to do a small amount of damage more, while you could do more by just attacking twice
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>>181179762
>>181179762
>Those without the stomach for this place must move on.
>>
Where can I find the file with the shrieker quest so I can remove the 1 time only restriction?
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>>181179581
Yeah in normal fights you want to end things as soon as possible unless you're keeping an enemy around to heal/stress heal. A skill you have to power up is worthless against anything but bosses and even then the longer the fight goes on usually the worst it gets so its not even attractive there.
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>Heh... guess the joke's on me, then?
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>>181179879
>>181179749
Shut the fuck up you meme spouting fucks, I'm serious
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Hold the fuck up. If the Shrieker only steals from your stash once per save file now, how the fuck will you recover lost trinkets after you kill him via that event? Being sent to hunt the Shrieker when it has not stolen anything does not give you trinkets back, so how the fuck can you recover stuff now?
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>>181179946
>He will be laughing still at the end
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>>181180020
Taking trinkets from your dead and stealing from your coffers are two separate events. Now he'll only steal from your coffer once but continue to take from fallen heroes.
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The nerf to the performance hall doesn't seem too bad. How much does it cost to build now?
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I am beyond mad.
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>>181179762
>Send this one to journey elsewhere, for we have need of sterner stock.
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>>181180013
Frustration and fury, more destructive than a hundred cannons.
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>>181081049
sick
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>>181180040
>>181179946
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>>181180013
>The mind cannot hope to withstand such an assault.
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>>181180161
Can you tell the dmg modifier on finale now ?
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>>181180143
I am pretty sure there are only 2 Shrieker events. One where he steals from you, and the other is where you get the Shriekers boss trinkets.
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So did anything good happen to Jester, or did he just get completely fucked?
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someone make a jester edit
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>Jester is literally useless now
Lel

We can always pirate the previous build though.
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what tiers should I upgrade my stage-coach to before moving onto other stuff
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>>181180193
get fucked
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>>181180421
back to the trash can he goes

best he can do now is be a bleed bot again

>>181180504
extra barracks room, maybe increase the amount of recruits
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>just stopped dungeoning with a double finale meme jesters

jej

At least it was funny while it lasted.
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I guess it could be worse.
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Can flagellants even become virtuous?
I've gotten four up to rank 4-6 and they've been rapturous every time
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>>181181071
Damage modifier anon
WHAT IS IT
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>>181181071
Back to ballads, stress healing, and bleeds.

>>181181157
They cannot become anything but rapturous. That is one of the things that make them so strong.
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>>181181157
No, they'll only ever be Rapturous. They're the only heroes that can get that affliction, too.
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how does infestation rise? just over time? or does more infected heroes make it grow faster?
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>>181181157
only rapturous

>>181181071
was that the most it could do? jesus
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>Finale leaves a 12 round DEF debuff, to represent exhaustion
>a 12 round DEF debuff
>12 round DEF debuff
>12 round

JUST
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>>181181071
>20
Nigga I can deal that much damage in a single hit from Houndmaster/Arbalest/Helion etc. equipped with DMG trinkets and no marks. They will also be able to reach rank 4 and won't apply a 12 round debuff.
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>>181181354
Better bring erbs boy.
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>>181181245
It doesn't say.
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>>181181280
only time, cursed heroes are irrelevant

>>181181354
>>181181071
>can't even crit
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>>181180143
No, there are 3.

-Returning lost trinkets
-Returning stolen trinkets
-Taking new trinkets

The entire point of the corvid being in the game is for there to be a way for you to get back trinkets that you've lost in dungeons.
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>>181181447
Select finale, hoover over an enemy, then hoover over the damage rating in the bottom left corner. It should show the skill modifier.
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>>181178262
>Other jester moves (“Dirk Stab”, “Inspiring Tune”, “Battle Ballad”) give a 7 round +20% stackable damage buff to Finale.
>Gives a 7 round +50% stackable damage buff to Finale.

So basically, stack for N turns, get enough battle ballads spd to be the first to act, Solo in, Finale out?
>12 turns
Jesus.
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>never used memester anyway because he can't hit row 4
I've eluded the nerf bat another day
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>finale fags BTFO
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>tfw changing back finale to relevant tier in the files
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What the actual fuck?

This is a Finale with two Battle Ballads and a Solo for a +90% damage modifier.
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back to the trashbin he goes
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>>181181354
TWELVE (12) ROUND
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>>181181636
>stack for N turns
That's N turns wasted not dealing superior damage with a better hero.

The only appeal of Finale was always its turn 1 instakill potential.
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FUCK
OFF
OH MY FUCKING GOD
THIS IS A LOAD OF FUCKING SHIT
THREE (3) FUCKING STUN RESISTS IN A ROW WHEN THE PIECE OF SHIT ONLY HAS 25% STUN RESIST
NOW I'VE JUST HAD FUCKING 98 STRESS ADDED TO ONE CHARACTER BECAUSE THE STUPID CUNT WOULDN'T FUCKING STUN
THEN MY FUCKING HEALER GETS CRIT FOR 16 DAMAGE BY FUCKING GRAVEYARD SLASH AND I'VE MISSED LIKE 8 TIMES TO ADD INSULT TO FUCKING INJURY

THERE IS LITERALLY NO EXCUSE, THIS GAME IS FUCKING HORRIBLE
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>>181181890
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Hey guys
Flagellant next ;)
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i guess it's the finale for Jester
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>>181181890
should have stacked it over 7 turns, kiddo
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>>181181890
> DMG 11-20
hehe xd
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>>181181974
>THREE (3) FUCKING STUN RESISTS IN A ROW WHEN THE PIECE OF SHIT ONLY HAS 25% STUN RESIST
What's your stun chance?
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>>181181974
>>181181974
>Fear and frailty finally claim their due.
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Since flaggelant is obviously next on chopping block, I don't even see how the Courtyard will be doable without turbo meme lineups like 3 MAAs dodgebuffing soon.
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>>181180421
Basically, you can't use finale is a finale. You can only use in once a battle, at the end of the battle.

It's kind of the opposite of the current >instantly kill rank 3 >sit around and buff/stress heal for a few rounds > solo back to front > finale again
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Wait, I thought we got invitations if we did the previous mission.

WHERE"S MY INVITATION, COME ON I JUST WANNA FIGHT THE BARON.
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>play a pos3 jester always
>mfw the patch don't affect me in any way
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>>181182223
I'm in the middle of Countess run and the only team I ever use is Arb/Occ/HM/BH. It's fine.

You can retreat at any time with no penalty, it's as forgiving as it gets.
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>>181179683
>What type of balance are they going for?
The balance where the use of the skill matches the flavor they had in mind. Personally I would have just changed the name to Opening Act.
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>>181182007
Wouldn't be the surprised the way he's over hyped, despite dealing antiquarian-tier damage without bleed
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>>181182131
100% I was using blinding gas.
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>>181182406
Its not retroactive, you'll only get a free invite for beating CC bosses from now on.
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THE PLAYERS ARE HAVING A BIT TOO MUCH FUN FOR OUR LIKING
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>>181179419
>without a healer
Then maybe you should bring a healer???
I presume you're new to the game. Occultist also works as a healer but you should bring an other minor healer with him such as Plague doctor or Arbalest
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The Dark Souls of turn-based RPGs.
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>>181182439
>The balance where you are pigeonholed into using the skill in one specific way
Ftfy
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I think it's broken. This is a 150% damage buffed finale against an enemy with no prot at all. It's only doing 4 more damage than a finale with no buffs against the same enemy type, as seen >>181181071
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>>181182620
No you won't trigger me
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Musket anon here! Any mistakes spotted?

>>181179912
In light of the changes, I checked the Shrieker quest data and apparently the one that doesn't repeat is the one where you hear of it's prize and go there automatically "Shrieker's Prize"
The one where he steals your shit, "A thief in the night" should be repeatable

this is how it works right?
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>>181182676

Leper those this much damage with literally non of the downside. This patch is completely bullshit, hence, I don't use Jester but I was about to build a team around the a fighting jester.
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If I never close my game it can't update save me
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>>181182531
Assuming you didn't use any trinkets with -stun chance, that has about 1.5% chance of happening.

Not likely, but bound to happen eventually.
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>>181181974
Another soul battered and broken, cast aside like a spent torch.
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>>181182676
Look at the bottom left corner, the damge is 20-37. Unlucky roll, that's it.
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>>181182705
>A trifling victory, but a victory nonetheless.
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>>181182676
quality testing

>>181182890
cant you just cancel the update? or does it force you to update before launching it? try offline mode i guess or grab the pirate version
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>>181183038
>Unlucky roll, that's it.
An unlucky roll that gives you a twelve (12) round debuff.
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>>181182676
Fucking garbage. All he can be used for is bleed and stress healing and the hound master can do that with a stun and a more reliable single target attack along with a dodge guard.
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what's the general opinion on the dlc? is it an improvement or did it fuck up things?
been out of the loop for a while.
I know the new dungeon has progress saving and some new affliction or something similar.
is the game still grindy as fuck or did they tune it down?
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Is something wrong with the quick reflexes quirk?

It says +2 spd, but when I give my hm a -1 spd trinket he has base speed, and the tooltip says +1 quirk -1 trinket
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>>181183038
is that showing the jesters base damage or the base damage of the skill? its supposed to have 150% more damage
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lol jester btfo
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>>181183038
37 damage isn't even good for a one use skill, none-the-less one that cannot crit.
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So the Viscount really is easier than the Baron. Fucker killed himself by moving my GR to pos. 4 right after she lunged, allowing me to lunge again for a 50 dmg crit.
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>>181183114
Steam force updates to play, even if I switch to offline mode it'll be set as needing to update so I'm fucked if I close it
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>>181183175
Yeah, it's shit nonetheless. Just sayin'

They could just leave the damage and crit alone but make it have a 1 per battle limit and maybe stun self in addition to the debuff.
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>>181183272
>is that showing the jesters base damage or the base damage of the skill?
Damage of the last selected skill vs. the last selected enemy.

DMG bonuses are additive.
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So now base dmg modifier for Finale is 0 (zero)
So to achieve the old 150% we need to spend around 5/6 turns buffing up
What the fuck were they thinking
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>>181183240
its ok

most of us were hoping for another region that works like the ruins, but instead we got another preset area like the DD

you cant camp, but the maps are HUGE so you usually need to make a few trips to complete the missions

the infestation is meh since all you can do is wait and the bloodsuckers show up a little too often at high levels, but you need high infestation levels to find the invitations to actually get into the court in the first place

after you finish the preset missions you just fight the same miniboss over and over for the trinkets

districts, the fanatic and the new class are pretty cool
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Has anyone uploaded the Dark Souls/Geralt skins made by the japanese guy outside of the workshop yet?

These 3 skin packs http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198191399779/myworkshopfiles/?appid=262060

If not could one of you fuckers throw all 3 of them on mega for me?
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>>181183720
>you cant camp
You can get firewood from wine crates if you use a shovel.
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>>181183720
You -can- camp, but only if you use certain curios
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How do I get lost trinkets back?

Two of my guys got crit+bleed to death by crimson bastards so I abandoned the fight and the quest.

I went shambler hunting to get the ancestor's scroll again, but no trinket dropped when I killed it.

After reading up, it sounded like I needed to wait for the shrieker to raid my stash again to get it back, but this new update says that it makes said event only happen once.

I don't know what to do anymore.
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>>181183878
After losing 8 trinkets I believe you can get a quest to hunt it, perhaps throw some trash trinkets on a group of new guys and wipe to force it
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>>181183878
>After reading up, it sounded like I needed to wait for the shrieker to raid my stash again to get it back
No. There is a different shrieker event where you recover lost trinkets.
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>>181183240
On the whole, it's not great. The new class is cool, new enemies are cool. But the Crimson Curse itself and the infestation mechanic are just annoying.
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>>181183878

>>181182841
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>>181183240
radiant mode has a lower grind and a reduced difficulty, and you can trade heirlooms in exchange for other heirlooms

those were added before the dlc i believe though
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>>181183720
this may be a stupid question (since I've never completed the DD before and dont know if you can keep playing after that), but is the new content intended to be done before of after the DD?
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How do i prevent the annihilation of my lvl 5 parties?

Until missions lvl 3 it was ultra easy and i only lost 2 guys, now i already played 4 missions lvl5 and most of them i'm forced to abandon them cuz at least a person dies (and i lose the trinkets he was carrying)

How do you win lvl5 mission anons?
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>>181184227
I've played Radiant mode, still was a little too grindy IMO.

and what do you mean with the heirloom exchange? couldn't you always do that, even outside of radiant mode?
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>>181184396
What have you been dying to?
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>>181184327
It can be done whenever, but it feels better before thanks to DD being the finale. And you can still keep playing after the DD.
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>>181184396

I only tried in the ruins for now cuz i thought it was the most easy, i died mostly of stress damage and i met a banner carrier or whatever the name another time.
I get that the stress dealer should be stunned and killed fast, but they got a decent amount of life in lvl5 and too fucking much dodge
Can't deal enough damage plus i have to cure the front row because the enemy dps is insane
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>>181184471
yea you can exchange heirlooms in any difficulty

>>181184327
in bloodmoon you probably want to do it after the DD since you probably wont have time

>>181184396
take short missions, take scouting and ACC+ only take good teams
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>>181184396
Warrens and Weald are the worst because Skiver and Virago are pieces of shit. Ruins are not that bad because the DMG bonus of Bone Bearer is not nearly as dangerous. Cove is definetly the easiest, all the ghast does is stress damage but it's not that high and Cove is not very stress heavy to begin with.

In Weald, stack ACC because Virago has bullshit DODGE. Kill her first, don't leave any corpses as long as she is alive.

In Warrens, the best option is to bring someone with rank 4 stun and high SPD, especially 1st turn SPD. Stun the Skiver before he acts and kill him as fast as you can.

In Ruins, kill the Bone Bearer first and stun whoever he stacks DMG on. He sometimes wastes it on bone royalty.

Cove is whatever, the ghast doesn't deal that much stress to begin with.
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>elusive exit
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>>181184881

meant for

>>181184483
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+25% damage buff from trinkets.
+20% damage buff from camping.
+18% damage buff from the statue curio.
+180% damage buff from the fight.

A stronger finale is definitely possible, but the amount of setup required to make it work it just isn't worth it. The jester did more total damage to the boss dirk stabbing back into position than he did with his "ultimate" attack.
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>>181183987
I'm doing this playthrough trying NOT to let my heroes die. Those were numbers four and five out of a nearly two year campaign.

>>181183989
As far as I can tell there's only "A Thief in the Night" and "Shrieker's Prize"
And I've done the Prize one since I lost those trinkets.

>>181184106
Oh, so I do just wait for "A Thief in the Night" to happen again.

That's the one called "trinket_retention_add_from_storage" just in case I feel like ramping up the chance of it showing up, right?
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>>181185301
yup
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>>181185184
I can deal more with Bounty Hunter marking for himself, especially vs. Humans with PROT.

The whole point of Finale was a nuke without setup. Marking is the best nuke with setup.
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>>181185184
How did the devs managed to fuck up this bad
>Alright now you need to pass 5/7 turns buffing him up
>Meanwhile any other damage character can do the same amount of damage in two turns
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>complaining that you cant use FINALE on turn 1
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Ok boys, whats a good lvl 5 siren party? As always, no MaA/BH
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So what's the story of the crimson court bosses?
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>>181185729
what's wrong with those two?
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>>181176037
It was a fanfic.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/7331002/chapters/16652281
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>>181185691
>how about we rename it to something like SHOW BEGINS

>Nah, better nerf it to the ground
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>>181185887

Local man ruins everything.
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>>181185889
Dont have them. They dieded.

And I cant do lvl 3 missions with the ones I DO have because I need to save them for the fucking baron. And the FUCKING BARON ISNT GIVING OUT FUCKING INVITATIONS FUCK.
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>>181185931
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>>181185729
Vestal/Plague Doc/Bounty Hunter/Man at Arms

Essentially, two heroes that have zero damage stuns and then damage/healing/stress healing.
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Jester officially dogshit
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>>181185417
Funny, I almost killed the boss by accident before I got a chance to finale because my Bounty Hunter kept critting him with unmarked attacks.
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>>181185691
You can use it on turn 1 its just not worth it to do so. Its not really worth it to use it on later turns either. It now how a one time per battle limit.
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What are the best mark setups you guys have? I assume a hero marking targets for himself to hit is shit or can it work?
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Alright alright wanna hear a fun one

Alright spend 5 turns buffing

Wait for it

for nothing since by then the backline is dead and the frontline have 5hp left
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>>181186328
I'm pretty sure Arbalest / Occultist / Houndmaster / Bounty Hunter is most people's go-to marking party.
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>>181185931
>Words: 35,421
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>lose two level six people to vvulf

I can handle xcom rng, but holy mother of God this game is on a whole other level.
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>>181186328
I'd always want a dedicated marker (HM, Occ) to go along with a dedicated mark hitter (Arb, BH). The more of both you can have the better, but you can get away with one of each
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>>181186475
Does the bonus damage of all those marks stack or just the debuffs?
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>>181186669
guard you silly billy

alternatively send in an expendable pleb to dieor retreat instantly for his hamlet
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>>181186328
Arbalest/Houndmaster/Houndmaster/front rank depends on mission
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>>181186328
>What are the best mark setups you guys have?
Arbalest/Occultist/Houndmaster/Bounty Hunter. All can mark, all except the Occultist get benefits from it.

I change the order to Arbalest/Bounty Hunter/Houndmaster/Occultist in Champion Warrens to stun the Skiver with BH's Flashbang. Wwyrd Reconstruction being usable in all ranks is a godsend.

>I assume a hero marking targets for himself to hit is shit or can it work?
Generally not worth it but there are exceptions. Marks also apply dodge/prot debuffs. Max level Arb gets 100% DMG and 10% crit from marks so overall she benefits from marking for herself at max level.
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>>181186762
Can't guard bleed
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>long ruins mission
>4 mosquitoes spawn
>they all act first
>reynauld and my auntie immediately get cursed before we can strike
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>>181186961
not with that attitude
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>>181187005
That's what you get for neglecting SPD and not stacking surprise chance.
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>>181187005
use berserk trinkets on everyone, or scout or disease resist jk don't do that
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>>181185691
How about not being able to do an instant finale at the start of battle then if that is such a problem.
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>>181185691
Just rename it fucking crescendo or something.
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>"rework" Finale before reworking any of the pointless skills on heroes like Leper that no one ever uses

Sasuga Red Hook.
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>>181187136
We were not surprised, A/PD/C/L. I know how slow my front was, but I'm surprised that even with a speed trinket my PD didn't outspeed even one of them. The dlc is neat and all, but it's getting a little annoying how it bleeds lol into the rest of the game so much
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>>181187698
I'll be tracking shot this post for a bit.
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>>181187698
Eh, Leper's okay, the only real pointless skill is probably Revenge. Purge is decent for moving the backline into his range, it's just that you can often have another class do that for him.

My big problem is Arbalest having garbage support skills outside bandage. Funny enough she has the same problem the jester has now, all her damage requires setting up.
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>>181188034
Bola just needs a bit more move. It can be fun messing up the enemy front line and shifting the back and front-line into one another with it.
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I got a Leper with Rabies

did I finally win at this?
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>>181188034
Revenge is alright as a buff, Purge and Intimidate are more what I was referring to especially the former. That the devs still haven't given him a move forward skill for if he's in the back row annoys me.

Arbalest is fine in comparison considering her position as backline hero, Rallying Flare has very few niches but those niches make it very useful, Blindfire is god-tier, Bola's are alright frontline damage, Bandages like you said are good. Her damage doesn't require nearly as much set-up as Jester too considering all she needs is a mark to get big hits for days.
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>>181188034
The difference is even after multiple turns of setup, the Jester still can't do any real damage. Arbalest just needs a mark to be good.
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>>181188034
>Funny enough she has the same problem the jester has now, all her damage requires setting up.
She has naturally high DMG, CRT, can mark for herself/others and Sniper Shot at max rank deals 100% more DMG with 10% more CRT so it's worth it to mark+attack instead of attacking twice.

See, her setup is actually worth it, only takes one turn and she still puts out good DMG without it. None of this can be said about Jester now.

I agree that Bola and Supressive Fire are irrelevant though. Flare is only good vs. Swine Prince.
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>>181188291
Intimidate is great against bosses and for synergy with mark squads. The fact that you can target any rank with it makes it surprisingly viable.
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>>181188682
i think the intimidate buff was nice. a -dmg -prot any rank mark is a solid addition to the leper kit
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>>181188475
Her setup is definitely worth it but it still requires another action on your team to setup which means you're dealing less damage overall round 1. And dealing as much damage round 1 as possible is really important. Since killing anything before it moves is 1/4 less damage for basically the entire dungeon.

That's why I just think her support skills need to be better. Man-at-Arms basically has the same stats round 1 but he has fantastic buffs/debufs and stuns to reliably reduce incoming damage instead of being guaranteed to kill something.

Also the fact that suppressing fire only reduces accuracy on three enemies by 10 at max if all attacks hit and all debuffs stick is fucking retarded when Man-at-Arms has bolster to guarantee 9 dodge versus everything. The damage it deals is negligible and hardly makes up for it.
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>>181188682
Intimidate got stupid powerful in many ways. Not just that it can hit more than the first two but it can actually land. Has like an initial 110% chance to land compared to like 79% before.
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>>181190000
LORD HELP ME
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>>181189290
>Her setup is definitely worth it but it still requires another action on your team to setup which means you're dealing less damage overall round 1.
This is completly incorrect.

First of all, she deals 100% DMG vs. marked. This alone basically makes her attack vs. marked worth 2 regular attacks so it alredy evens out on turn 1. The 10% CRT bonus makes it much more likely to 1-shot the enemy and makes marking+attacking deal more damage on average than attacking twice.

Second of all, you are ignoring the fact that marks apply debuffs to PROT or DODGE. Decreasing PROT is a significant damage buff while decreasing DODGE makes it less likely to waste a turn.

Third, and I think this get extremaly overlooked in general, is that marks can e used to project damage onto ranks that the marking hero cannot deal damage to.

Example: Fight with Swine Skiver at rank 4. Bounty Hunter moves first. His Collect Bounty or Finish Him cannot reach rank 4. But he can mark rank 4 so your Arbalest and Houndmaster deal a total of 4x DMG instead of 2x, while also lowering his 15% PROT to 0. Hell, with luck, Arbalest or Houndmaster with a cookie can 1-shot crit him. This is all turn 1, too.
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>>181190142
>>181190000
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>>181190000
I once heard someone say to never kill the little piggy first. I'm going to do this boss fight now, how fucked will I be if I kill the little piggy first?
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>>181190315

>>181190325
big piggy will proceed to fuck your shit up real hard

never ever kill smol piggy first
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>>181190325
yES
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>>181190315
What even happens if you retreat with just Wilbur left? Does the quest complete? Will Wilbur be in the room alone if you go back in?
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as a guy who started in beta i'm surprised they haven't implemented hero corpses

if enemy crossbowmen can sit behind their mates when they crumble then shouldn't my arb be able to do the same?

>>181190325
incredibly fucked, don't do it
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New thread:

>>181190539
>>181190539
>>181190539
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>>181190291
Which is why she's usually run in a marking party, and doesn't fit well in any random group.

She's hands down the highest DPS class in the game but she has a lot of qualifiers that come with that.
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>>181188032
I've been using tracking shot since it got changed to the battle long buff, helps counter song of ripsote negatives
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>>181190439
She survived like twelve hits from the pig at death's door, and I got an achievement for it. He could attack like six times a turn because Hamage had no speed. She attacked twice but missed both. RIP.

>>181190463
Apparently it counts as a victory as long as the Big Guy is dead. You don't get anything you picked up in the dungeon, though. I didn't retreat, everyone just died.
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Left or right?
Also, did they increase the madman encounter rate? Found fucking three in this dungeon alone, only reason my PD is afflicted is because she got buttfucked by Horror multiple times. Is laudanum worth it just in case?
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>>181190659
She's argueably self-sufficent in Champion where her damage vs. Marked reaches 100%. It is true she won't be able to benefit from it until turn 2 though.

Marks greatly benefit from synergy between heroes, true. Then again, what doesn't?
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>>181190493
I mean, how often would you actually see them? Most hero deaths come from dots.
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>>181190750
You didn't get anything because you didn't have any heroes left to bring your inventory back, as it's technically a wipe.
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>thief in the night
>its an apprentice shreiker
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>>181191001
they'd be significant if a frontliner had a heart attack mostly
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>>181182418
>>mfw people use solo over harvest and dump one of the other three great things for finale on a character that's never meant to be in the front row and doesn't have very good stepping mechanic like higwayman does

I'm glad it's over.
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>>181191352
Glad I get to bench the Jester as well.
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he truly is the king of kings
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