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Welcome to the Sonic General. Here we talk about all things Sonic! Share art and music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, Team Dark and more.

/sthg/ #808 - Angry Cream Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Sonic News<
Sonic Mania vids:
6 Minutes of Gameplay: http://youtu.be/uB9RP2SV8HY
Green Hill Boss : http://youtu.be/X1GZbQgtGLY
Chemical Plant : http://youtu.be/4TX2I3iUORQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52UGIIIp9WE
Pre-order Trailer: http://youtu.be/wvD8NZN9Zsg

Sonic Forces vids:
Sonic Forces E3 trailer:
https://youtu.be/dprxYd_16Ck
7 minutes of Gameplay: http://youtu.be/fyTzm8WgtlE
Full level Gameplay: http://youtu.be/6g6_rRqjlCI
Avatar Gameplay: http://youtu.be/TJZfptketUc

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>General Interest Links<
[NEW] Birthday Bash Zone
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9wQojS0lxpamZnSzItcURDUFE/view?usp=sharing

Sonic Time Twisted
https://overboundstudio.com/index.php?action=game_page&id=1

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1 + Source Code
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html
http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/Vh05gC9s/file.html

Green Hill Paradise Act 2
https://mega.nz/#!bdtByBRB!QENQpUU2fzjYSs79s0Y0lR5Zx1Tt5CI6v3f-buPsUo4

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom-season-2
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>>181051721
>Team Dark and more.
Ya blew it
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Where do you think Sonic is running to right now?
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>>181051804
I blame the obsessed weirdo from the last 3 threads who kept wanting to talk about them.
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>>181051804
Why do you think Cream is so mad?
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Knuckles Chaotix literally did nothing wrong.
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>>181051907
Anywhere but here
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>>181051907
His grave
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I want to fiddle cream's butt
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Got myself a drawing tablet. It takes a bit of getting used to. Have my first attempt at anything with it, before I eventually give up with it and it gathers dust like my ukelele skills.
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So are we still talking about Team Dark then?
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>>181051907
To a new venture Lalaaaa..............
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>>181052026
I have a hard time believing Vanilla would step foot on an air ride.
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>>181051967
'Tis easy and boring.
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I wanna babysit Cream!
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>>181052103
It's a sketchy blue boy
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>>181052103
Keep going with that ukelele, anon!
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>>181052109
both.

this is a shadow/cream thread
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Please don't bring that retardation from the old thread in here.
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Can we all agree that Cream is our queen even though Amy is still best girl?
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>>181052637
Cream is Queen AND best girl you fool
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>>181052637
Amy has never been best girl so I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>181052637
Sure, I can agree with that.
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>>181053447
Look at that OOC Omega.
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>>181045025
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http://sonicthehedgehog.tumblr.com/post/162365792647/wait-was-it-always
#huh.#hope you're all having a good week#thanks once again for all the birthday wishes last Friday#we've been hiding in the dungeons of sega#cooking up some fun new things that we may be able to show you pretty soon#they're not game announcements#we are holding our promise to keep Mania still under wraps enough#so when you finally play it (soon!) you'll have surprises
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>>181052232
I'm gonna pretend you just really want me to learn a Ukelele and not saying that because my drawing was terrible.

>>181052213
It's slow learning and sketchy aesthetic is best aesthetic.

Did some practice redoing an old favourite as well, it's a lot easier without using a mouse.
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>>181053634
Little late on that.
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>>181052637
Cream is moe incarnate.
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>>181053581
He should be using her as ordinance.
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>>181053675
Improve your line quality man, you can't get away with chickenscratch forever if you want to improve your drawing skills. Otherwise it's pretty OK.
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>>181053675
drawabox.com
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>>181053675
I did not intend to say that your drawing is terrible, anon.
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>>181052637
She's gonna one day grow up to be a complete slut.
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Reminder that the the tailor-made Sonic Level Development Kit is now publicly released:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9wQojS0lxpTkNyZTZCdWFkM2c/view?usp=sharing
With this tool you can make your very own 3D Sonic levels with relative ease and, what's more, you don't need to know a lick of programming. If you have any interest in making a 3D Sonic level, I very much encourage that you give this a shot. You'd be surprised at what even just tinkering with the Terrain tools can yield. Good luck.
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>>181054267
OP really should have added that to News.
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>Downlowd GHPAnon's kit
>Entire terrain is black
>Give up, thinking something might be wrong with the computer
>Open it back up in Unity
>Terrain color was listed to be black & just changing the color now allows me to see the full terrain
I feel so stupid, kek. Also that Kit should probably go in the OP next time.
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>>181054267
the physics are probably bad
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>>181054267
>Find halfpipe in models
>Straight Tony Hawk-ing that shit
Today is a good day
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>>181054267
What kind of stuff do I need to run this?
I'm no tech guru and I keep getting a side-by-side configuration error.
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>>181054660
You just need Unity
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>>181054421
Is this what you're seeing?
When first opening the project the lighting may need to process the terrain. You should see a little loading bar in the bottom right telling you its progress. If not, the lighting might not be set to Auto Generate. If that's the case, head to Window, Lighting, Settings and turn it on.

>>181054425
If you feel that they are then you are free to change them. It's that easy.

>>181054660
There's a short readme in the download.
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>>181054987
Yeah, I saw that when I first loaded. But, it's all good now. Just tinkering around with it.
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>>181055092
Excellent. Have fun. Post some screenshots of what you come up with later on, okay?
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>>181055175
No prob.
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>likes cream
>don't like the games she's in
What do?
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>>181055635
Mod her into games that you do like.
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>>181055635
Stop not liking Heroes.
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>>181055635
Mods, son
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>>181055635
>Doesn't like Heroes
>Doesn't like the Advance Games
>Doesn't like Rush(?)
There is no helping you
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>>181055843
>doesn't like a bunch of shitty games

Anon did nothing wrong.
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>>181055635
Personally I enjoy Advance 2 and Rush and Heroes but like others are say, mods. You could also play Sonic Worlds which is a pretty decent project. Control mapping is dumb though.
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>>181056031
>Advance 1 & maybe 2
>Rush
>shit
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>>181054987
I'd imagine the whole thing is pretty dependant on the character controller
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>>181056116
Cream wasn't in Advance 1
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>>181055843
>>181056031
>>181056068
>>181056116
I actually haven't played Advance 3
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>>181056124
I'm afraid I don't follow. Which "whole thing" are you referring to? I mean, yes, how the game plays is very dependent on how Sonic himself behaves, but I'm guessing that's not what you're trying to get at.
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>Wednesdays

>>181052637
Nope
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>>181055635
Out of Advance 2 and 3, Adventure DX, Heroes, Rush, Generations, and Battle, you don't like a single one?
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>>181056391
you're better off this way
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>>181056391
Cream is the hardest character to unlock, but she makes the game one of the best and most fun Sonic games ever, honestly.

OP as fuck.
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>he doesn't like Heroes
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>>181056423
that's exactly what I'm trying to get at
what's the physics if not how sonic moves and interacts with all the other things? you've made that in a specific way and I don't see how you could "just change it" without breaking everything else. I don't really feel like alpha testing your thing
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>>181056589
Easiest way to trigger adventurefags is to say you prefer Heroes

They can't even comprehend it, they just shut down
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By the way, I specialise in drawing Eggman crappily over layers, will work for something to do.
My life is empty this is how I fill the void.

>>181053975
I was gonna do sketch then layer over it, but I thought Sketch Sonic looked cute.
>>181054115
Bloody hell, this looks good.
Thanks Anon man, I appreciate it.
>>181054132
Awww yer too kind.
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>>181056482
She also appeared briefly in Shadow the Hedgehog but only as a quest objective for Amy. Cream's been in a lot of decent games barring ShtH. Even avoided being in 06 but appeared in Riders.
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>>181056865
Would it kill you to stop trying to start autism-battles™ between different Sonic factions for like 2 minutes?
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>>181056865
But I'm not here to troll people. I genuinely love Heroes and find it to be the most enjoyable Sonic game. Stings a little inside seeing how it's more forgotten than anything.
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>>181056667
He didn't make the engine, he just provided a tool set to make your own Sonic stuff from it. You can change Sonic's physics, then make levels suited to those physics.
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>>181056589
>he likes having his friends glued to his side

Then again I like Chaotix and that's exactly what it does. Not sure where I was going with this.
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>>181056667
Well, first you change how Sonic behaves: run speed, jump height, turn radius, how much downward force slopes have on him, etc. Then you build the level around your customized physics. Yes, out-of-the-box, Sonic has specific physics values, but these can be easily changed. Pic related are only just some of the values that you have the freedom to control.
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Haha
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>>181054849
Is the free version good enough for me to Sanic?
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>>181055345
Cute.
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>>181057406
NO BULLY
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>>181057808
Absolutely. That's the version that I use and have always used for years.
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I want to bully Buddy and steal his virginity.
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where the deer at
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>Hedgehog

>Bird

>Rabbit

>Bear

>Cat

>Dog

>Wolf

Which will you pick, and what are they going to be like, /sthg/...?
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>>181058912
Default, because the options will likely be shit.
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>>181058912
I'll probably just go with Wolf because Wolves are cool.
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When will Sonic get it's own Boruto?
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>>181059103
When everyone on the Internet understands the difference between "its" and "it's." In other words, never.
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>>181058912
Bird, either a cockatoo with an Aussie hat and sandles, or a corvid or some description
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>>181058912
Dog, because my lazy ass will make one based off of my own dog.
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>>181058912
The modded one with the biggest tits.
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>>181059103
What would the point be? gameplay wise?

>>181059271
I can see how it would be confusing.
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>>181059409
>sonic oc based off your dog
abort
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>>181059271
I do, yet my finger's will still type in the unnecessary apostrophe on reflex.
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>>181059271
Tell us the difference, anon.
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>>181058912
Cat, but I hope the :3 mouth can be changed.
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>>181059562
Oh yeah, this exists. Shit, maybe Bear. I pulled an all-nighter in 2nd grade to write a report.
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>>181059631
Case in fucking point. Goddammit.
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>>181059674
"Its" denotes possession. For example:
>I do not like Sonic Chronicles. ITS soundtrack (the soundtrack that the game has) hurts my ears.
"It's" is a contraction, meaning that it is a shortening of "it is."
>I do not like Sonic Chronicles. IT'S (it is) a bad game with bad music.

When you say
>When will Sonic get it's own Boruto?
You are really saying
>When will Sonic get it is own Boruto?

Make sense?
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>>181060261
He could just talk to Tikal.
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>>181053634
>#they're not game announcements
Can they be comic announcements?
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>Blaze & Cream Wind Waker never
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>>181060192
Doesn't 's also mean possessive though?

>Anons waifu a shit
>Anon's waifu a shit

fucking IT'S WAIFU IS A SHIT. A SHIT.
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>>181060495
Hope you like memes, anon.
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>>181060545
THE FUTURE OF SONIC
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>>181060516
You mean Blaze and Marine?

Also we literally got that, play Rush Adventure
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>>181054267
Shoot, that sucks. I noticed it reading through the old thread, but I liked hearing arguments, nonetheless. I was kinda surprised that somebody mentioned Adventure and Heroes has momentum, when I hold this knowlegde too, but thought was the only one.

>>181018545
Well, you can't. At least, you can't make your character fat. The interview made Iizuka thought they were kidding, but I'm sure it wasn't a joke and this only made me a little dissapoint that this is the first sign that shows the customization will be limited.
I still hold the hope birds will look good or at least look like Babylon Rogues.

>>181058912
Bird, but I have no idea which kind of bird will I base it. Maybe cocks?
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Hey, this Texture thing is easier than I thought it would be.
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>>181061010
Yeah, "bird" is really fucking vague.

It could be like Jet, Wave, Storm, or something completely new.

Personally hoping it looks like Jet or Wave depending on gender.
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>>181061010
Meant to reply the first response to >>181051759.
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>>181060950
There's no exploration in that though, and fuck Marine. She should just be a side character.
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>>181060520
's is possessive, except when it comes to "it". English is weird.
>The hedgehog's shoes are red.
>Its shoes are red.
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YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING, SO DON'T EVEN TRY

GET SOME HELP
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>>181061364
DON'T DO WHAT SONIC DOES
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>>181061327
's is only possessive for pronouns.
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Do you think we'll ever get another game like Sonic Heroes or anything that Utilizes Sonic's back up friends ever again?

I wouldn't mind an adventure platformer with Blaze and Shadow or something
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>>181061364
TIME TO DIE
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>>181061046
Iizuka Insanity Act 2
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>>181061105
inb4 a Flicky with a human body is the Bird Avatar
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>>181061364
I've got a save file on Wacky Workbench in which I've made all good futures and only have two time stones left to get.
I'M COMING FOR YOUR ASS BOY
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>>181061541
Looks more like Iizuka-Laylee if you catch my drift.
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>>181061471
No, it also applies to regular and proper nouns. Most pronouns actually have their own, entirely different, possessive form. "His", "her", "their", etc.
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>>181061464
DON'T EVEN TRY
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>>181061496
At this point I'd just like to see Tails and Knuckles in 3D again.
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>>181061496
If Forces does well, maybe.

I honestly believe that Sonic 06 is 100% responsible for Sonic's friends taking a backseat. Iizuka panicked and shut down all other gameplay styles, which is why we're getting yet another game with "two Sonics" rather than another character.

But Forces is bringing back characters talking in stages, and the Adventure-style 3+ playstyles. If it's received well, I do not believe they will bring Classic Sonic back again, next time it will be a different character. Either new, or pulling from Sonic's pool of friends.
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>>181061851
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>>181061851
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>>181061987
Poor Amy
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>>181056116
>Do a stylish move

WOOOHOOO YEEAHH WAHA YEAH YEAH YEAH WOOHOOO *Crowd applause on maximum volume*

Into the trash it goes
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>>181061046
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>>181061046
Now make it Penders
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You'll *sniff* never get these chaos emeralds you dumb rat you might as well give up!
Sad!
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>>181052637
Wouldn't princess be more appropriate?
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>>181058912
The one that lets me double jump, that aside however
>You have 30 seconds to post the most obscure Sonic tidbit you happen to know
Chaos is a mutated chao
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>>181061010
Yeah I hope I can at least make my character buff like Strom and Boom Knuckles so I can say she's strong fat, BTW how was your day Rotor Bro?
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>>181055635
Save fanart of her and read issues with her?
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>>181061838
>>181061471
>>181061327
>>181060520
>>181060192
>>181059674
>>181059271
>/sthg/, grammar edition
I'm getting flashbacks to when Sonic and the goons went to school cause the U.S was going through it's anime phase
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>>181062705
Oh please anon.
Sonic could defeat Trump in like half a second.
What powers or abilities does he even have?
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>>181063323
You're doing this on purpose.
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will they ever meet in canon?
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>>181063491
I've been caught
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>>181058912
See >>181059409
I'd do that if I'm not going default or using a bird or bear for gameplay reasons.
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>>181063048
At least as explained in the comics, Omega downloaded the destroyed Gamma's "free will", explaining how Omega could go rogue against Eggman
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>>181063048
Most people deride Shadow's ending for pardoning Gerald, but in the original Japanese script, the President and G.U.N. Commander instead discussed working towards a better future. Said original script also lacked the American script's abundant swearing.
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>>181058912
Hedgehog because they're always cuties
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>>181063880
>Knuckles learned his martial arts from the murals
>Tails scraped completely rebuilt the original tornado and scrapped the tornado 2
>Amy not only uses tarot cards, but also a crystal ball
>Shadow got his name from Maria
>There are multiple Omochao
>Omega is powered by a chaos drive rather than an animal
>Silver and Blaze just come and go from the future/dimension as they please
>Eggman Nega harasses Silver and Blaze for petty reasons
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>>181064601
>Silver and Blaze just come and go from the future/dimension as they please
Redpill me on this.

Ignoring Iizuka's "LOL AMNESIA" response, how have the comics/games/ect handled Silver and Blaze post-06?
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>>181060390
Tikal is gone forever.
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>>181063048
>obscure sonic tidbit
The textures used for the Mystic Ruins were taken from actual pictures from Sonic Team's vacation to South America.
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>>181063880
But that was stupid, though.
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>>181063048
A random npc in the JP (and English beta) version of Sonic Adventure brings up the Little Planet and Angel Island.
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>>181063048
Sonic 2 was going to have time travel in it but it was used for Sonic CD instead.
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>>181063048
Classic Sonic was going to talk and be voiced by Jaleel White in Generations.
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>>181064909
That one I didn't know! Man, now I dislike DX's changes even more...
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>>181065628
Question, how much text were changed from the original Sonic Adventure to DX?
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>>181065812
Text? No idea, Textures, most of them if I remember correctly.
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>>181063048
Sonic has had novel books before and 4 of them were made under a pseudonym name.
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>>181064767
06 never happened. Blaze is from the Sol Dimension and Silver is still from 200 years in the future. In the Rivals games and Colors DS, Silver travels from the future to the past without the use of a third party (i.e. Mephiles in 06). Blaze has also traveled from the Sol Dimension to Sonic's world in Colors DS and Generations. In Runners, it mentions that she travels freely between her dimension and Sonic's.
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>>181063048
Amy suffers from a bad case of puffy vagina
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>>181066629
hot
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>>181066338
Are Silver and Blaze still friends then?
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>>181063048
The first Echidna in Sonic was called Eric.
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>>181066825
No. They met for the first time in Colors DS. Their bond in 06 was alluded to; both by Sonic observing that Blaze and Silver fought in sync and by Tails suggesting that Blaze and Silver may have fought together somewhere, some time. As an easter egg, a character in Runners called "ESP Silver" is implied to be Silver from 06, as his profile states that he's grown stronger and discovered his true power following a "split with Blaze."
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>>181066825
They first meet in Colors DS and work as a team well.
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>>181064767
>games
Silver is from the future. He traveled back in time in both Rivals games to prevent Eggman Nega (also from the future) from ruining the world. In the second game, he and Espio defeated Ifrit (basically not!Iblis) and sealed it in another dimension. He appeared in Colors DS where he informed everyone that his future is now bright and colorful and everyone's happy, so now he just goes back in time for kicks.

Blaze is a princess from another dimension guarding the Sol Emeralds. She appeared again in Rush Adventure where her and Sonic once again recover the Sol Emeralds and prevent Eggman and Eggman Nega from using the Jeweled Scepter (imagine the Master Emerald for the Sol Emeralds except as a scepter) to destroy the dimensional barriers. She appeared in Colors DS for I forget what reason with her and Silver doing the "have we met?" "don't think so" routine. With the Sol Emeralds and Jeweled Scepter in her possession, she can now travel between worlds at will for kicks. That's it for her outside of cameos.
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>Sonic Team can't find a way to add any real substance to the boost formula

From the previous thread. Any ideas how they could have done that?
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>>181066889
>she got to drink the nutrients to sustain her quality of life
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I wish I could have participated in locations such as Too Many Games and Gameworks. People looked like they were having a blast interacting and talking about Sonic.
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>>181064767
>>181067325
>comics, pre-reboot
Silver is from a ruined future and is the student of Mammoth Mogul, an immortal chaos wizard who's Sonic's enemy in the present but repentant in the future, and Edmund, a descendant of Knuckles. His deal is to go back in time to find a traitor of the Freedom Fighters who will cause the ruined future, with him getting it wrong and getting his butt kicked by Sonic every time. Eventually Mogul tells him to sort his shit out and gives him one more opportunity to make things right with him only being allowed back home once he fixes things. Silver gets it wrong again resulting in him being stuck in the present for a period of time where he joins a group of Secret Freedom Fighters. Eventually he figures out that the "traitor" is Sally, who was roboticized against her will. He helps Sonic subdue Mecha Sally so they can save her, and then the reboot happens.

Blaze has Rush and Rush Adventure happen in backstory. Her first appearance involves Shadow and a Metal Sonic jumping into her dimension; the two team up to destroy the Metal Sonic and Shadow hops back home. Later a Sol Emerald ends up in the prime dimension; Blaze teams up with Amy and Cream to get it back. That's it for her until the reboot.
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>>181067351
have actual wide-open spaces to speed through and explore instead of a single track.

Maybe a first person view option when boosting?
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>>181067351
Less, straight racetracks more using the boost as a reward for you knowing the level well enough through constant replays that you can run through it in a speedy and stylish manner.

Some people opted that using it should take away Sonic's ability to not suffer from an attack while in it, and that no longer should command prompts for sliding,quick step and light ring dash be shown.
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>>181064767
>>181067523
>comics, post-reboot
Silver gets a new backstory where he's from a dystopian future controlled by generic cyberpunk dictatorship council of psychics. He runs into a scientist named Von Schlemmer IN THE COOLER who discovers that the time-space continuum is under threat by stuff called Genesis Portals. The two team up with a member of the psychic council named Gold and start hopping through time and space to stabilize things. Silver runs into Sonic and helps him fight off Metal Sonic and Ifrit before peacing out.

Blaze has been confined to her dimension. Amy and Cream end up there and the three fight off a pirate Metal Sonic to recover the Sol Emeralds again. She was supposed to get a team-up arc with Bunnie but the comic was cancelled before that happned at least we got abt's pic

To my knowledge, Blaze and Silver have never interacted in the comics.
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>>181067795
They actually interacted a bit in a Worlds Collide issue.
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>>181067523
Pic was supposed to be this.
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>>181052737
A best
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>>181067257
>>181067291
>They met for the first time in Colors DS.
>They first meet in Colors DS and work as a team well.
Oh alright, that worked out pretty well then. I'd rather take the Rush games over 06 any day.

Is ColorsDS worth picking up? Never got around to it, but I heard it's just as good as the Console version, if not better.
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>>181067351
I like the boost formula, they just need to add a few more points where fast reactions are necessary to maintain going fast to justify it

No idea why boosting upsets fans so much, I thought Generations did it near-perfect
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>>181068643
Colors DS is pretty much Sonic Rush 3, just without a playable Blaze. I like it a lot.
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>>181068792
>No idea why boosting upsets fans so much
Every time a new Boost title is announced people go apeshit, but during the hiatus between games people admit it's not as bad as they say, so it's like a lot of Sonic memes.
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>>181067795
>>181067523
Thanks for giving me the rundown m8, seems pretty good to me

>She was supposed to get a team-up arc with Bunnie but the comic was cancelled before that happned
Fuck

>>181067940
Is Worlds Collide any good? Wondering if I should skip it or not. Not big on Megaman.
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>>181069218
Worlds Collide is very good. Worlds Unite is garbage. Make sure you don't confuse the two.
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>>181068792
I feel like Unleashed handled it better but I also don't mind Boost.
I still would like things to be a little less rollercoastery though.
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Whenever someone gets the Sonic 25th Anniversary Art Book, could they maybe scan it and post the link for people who can't afford it?
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>>181061987
>That file name
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>>181070792
Is that Knuckles concept art meant to be Wild Canyon or Pumpkin Hill?
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>>181070981
I'm not 100% certain and it didn't say what it was from where I got it.

I think it looks like a beta Pumpkin Hill though.
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>>181070981
It looks like Pumpkin Hill to me. Just without some of the environment being pumpkin shaped.
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>>181070825
>hedgehog
Nah, she's all about that /ss/.
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Why does Izuka have a stupid explanation for what should be just simple plot and writing inconsistencies?
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>>181071890
>/ss/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08
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>>181062705
>trump
>owning the chaos emerald

How can he do that when Obama has one of the chaos emeralds right here?
MR PRESIDENT LET GO OF THE EMERALD
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>>181025147
I started on it. I feel like I'm forgetting everything though.
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>>181073683
Wouldn't nature cover flowers as well?
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>>181061105
Or like Bean, or like someone from Archie's universe, or even >>181061654. All bird possibilities are considered, but I too believe Jet and Wave being respectively stock bird male and female has higher chances of being in Forces.

>>181063135
I remember reading somewhere that we can change bodytypes, and I'm sure I'm not being crazy. Still, only future will tell us the truth, but yeah, I wouldn't mind using the buff feature too.

>BTW how was your day Rotor Bro?
It was, I would say, normal, and it's how most of my days goes. No bad stuff, but either no good stuff, and I'm okay with this, but I feel that I should include one more hobby in my life besides some I have. I'm thinking on drawing or either master my english and do serious business with languages or even put my time into finally reading Sonic's comics because I haven't read any kind of comic since years ago. In summary, it was an alright day, so thanks for asking and t-thanks for the compliment.

>>181067351
How about instead editing it? Like, for example, make it more like Advance 2, where boost is only earned through going fast and others? Make changes that makes it feel different, not completely new things.
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>>181073683
The Sonic 1 title screen is off center.
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>>181073683
Physics and momentum, lore and voice acting on obscure?
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>>181074179
>physics
>lore
yeah those broad concepts really define sonic
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>>181073683
Character design would be under obvious.
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>>181074179
>Physics and momentum
>Obscure
It's funny because it's true.
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>>181074247
if we're talking about western fans, the japanese lore is obscure. Normies thought Sonic 4 was just like the genesis games.
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>>181074280
another fucking genius. sonic is the only game to have character design. love it
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>>181074353
but having lore isn't a sonic thing. you gotta take something from the lore
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>>181061364
>>181061464
>>181061529
R-R-R-ROWR
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>>181073870
Yeah that's true. My mindset was thinking of the flowers in the series (e.g: Sunflowers, Posies, etc) isn't the first thing that people think of when they think of the game/Sonic but I'll throw that there.

>>181074280
I suppose I could use icons or their actual animals.

>>181073980
>>181074179
In reference to everyone, it's probably easier to give context.

I wanted to get some things from the series and make it into a physical form for a personal reason. e.g: Adventure -> Pictures of levels
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I've tried downloading that level development kit twice and both times it's like...corrupted or something.
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>>181073941
BTW Why is Rotor your favorite character?
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>>181075341
Couldn't open the rar? I had to get a newer rar opener. Then it worked
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>>181075341
I've been having problems too, but it works for me now. Care to elaborate?
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>>181075475
because penders said he was gay
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>>181076119
Penders is gay.
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What are your thoughts on Sonic CD?
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>>181076119
>taking his word for anything

>>181076440
It's alright.
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>>181076440
I like the american soundtrack
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>>181062567
Had to step out for a while, but here you go! It was upside down, but hope you like it.
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>>181076440
Flawed, but alright.
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>>181076681
>Flawed
What would you have done differently? Personally, I would have done away with the frustrating special stages and replaced them with something more akin to Sonic 2.
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>>181076851
>frustrating special stages
They're better in the 2011 remaster, but I'd hardly call CD's stages "frustrating." Personally, I would make the levels less exploration-based and remove the Time Warp Plates. That way, the levels can be more dynamic like Sonic 2 and 3&K's.
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>>181077113
Hello, ROM hack idea! Can someone get on that? I would, but I don't have any hacking experience.
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>>181076440
It introduced best girl and Metal Sonic.
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>>181076440
best 2d game
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>>181077113
>I would make the levels more shit
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>>181076440
Gameplay wise I still prefer Sonic 2 or 3&K, but everything else is amazing. Favorite soundtrack, introduced Metal Sonic, awesome fmv intro. What's not to love?
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>>181075139
It's harder to explain and it might become off topic if I use examples but I updated my list a little bit more.

I forgot to replace pizza and put food to include the other characters.
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>>181078317
robots?
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Welp, I've fucked around enough for one day. Pretty fun shit
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>>181078467
It is added.

For a background, should I go for the checkerboards in Green Hill, the abstract background in Sonic 1's special stage, abstract art in the Japanese box art and Mania, or something else all together?
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>>181077113
>remove Time plates
So then alternative is, Act One is the present. Act two is you trying to change shit in the past, act three depends on wether you succeeded and got the good future or failed and got the bad?
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>>181079753
bounce pads
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What's gonna happen when Sonic eventually becomes jaded and gets bored with running?
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>>181080920
That's Shadow, anon.
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>>181080920
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What are some good romhacks?
I'm bored and need something new to play.
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>>181080920
He either finds another vice or commits suicide.
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>>181081268
Sonic 2 XL.
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I enjoy playing Sonic games
I think Sonic games are fun
I love all the characters in Sonic games
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>>181081730
I... disagree
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>>181081730
Not in my Merry-o general. Get out.
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>>181081268
Its weird that canonically, Sonic digs human women
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>>181081730
GET OUT.
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>>181081730
What's a Sonic game?
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>>181081730
You're a damn liar
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>>181080047
I'll consider adding some bounce pads just for you, anon.

>>181080920
He probably would just be an isolated grump.
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>>181081730
I agree.
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>>181082234
Would Tails then be NOT SO GRUMP?
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>>181081268
There's one with Silver, Sonia from Underground, and Scourge as playable characters. Sounds pretty fanficcy, but it's actually pretty fun. I seem to remember a version of Sonic 2 with Blaze in it as well that was pretty neat.

Finally there's a 2D version of Sonic Heroes, but I can't remember which game it was using as a base.
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>>181081893
Yeah. It didn't take long for Sonic and Elise to hit it off; meanwhile Amy has been trying for years with no success.
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>>181082485
Cool.
And you're thinking of Sonic 2 Heroes.
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Just ordered all the Rush/Advanced games off of ebay

Did I do good?
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>>181081196
kek
>"i'm pretty tired.....think I'll go home now."
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>>181082635
It depends on how much you paid for it, anon.
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>>181082635
>Did I do good?
Yes, you did.
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>>181082518
Maybe she shouldn't be so pushy and annoying.
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>>181082635
I like Advanced. Rush not as much but it has some good moments. A few of them have some leap of faith moments so be careful about those.
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>>181082518
Dont' forget Madonna
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>>181082635
>paying money for bad games

No.
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>>181082607
>Sonic 2 Heroes
You mean Sonic Classic Heroes, right?
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>>181082838
Oh yeah, I forgot about her. She was supposed to actually be similar to Amy, except she was actually his girlfriend.
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SON-NICK HERE-ROOOOWS
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>>181083116
get a kinda "jessica rabbit" feel from her
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>>181082691
$40-ish for them all, from what I can tell they're all legit working copies but I guess I'll have to wait and see if I got screwed on any of them

>>181082754
Great!

>>181082863
Not great!

>>181082810
I played Advanced 3, Rush and Rush Adventure. I liked them all a lot.

I figured it was time to try the other half of the games
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>>181083171
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xddu4wUWUhE
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>>181083116
It's interesting to see how Sonic Team tries to put her against the other attractive characters (according to some people) of the time such as >>181083189
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>>181083171
>always let the opening animation play just to sing along
>would turn on the game just to play the team songs all day
I miss those days.
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>>181083326
the face shad makes after release in this beta cutscene needs to be made into a reaction gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b63e5tmnZRo
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>>181083460
wake me up inside
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>>181068128
She wouldn't be the best even if she was the only one left.
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>>181083319
That's not so bad. I'm assuming shipping made it a tad more expensive than the initial prices.
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>>181083460
Back in the old days; we played 3D Sonic to hear the music. You can't deny that they were the hottest shit when you were a kid.
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WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN
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>>181083713
>the before time
>no dial-up
>had a tape cassette recorder
>would use sound test on sonic adventure 1 and 2 to record songs onto tape
>low quality and hissing, but was the best i had
>took it to school
>friends all jealous that i had sonic music to listen to
>on tape.

The good ol' days.
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>>181083809
YET MY FEET DON'T TOUCH THE GROUND
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>>181083809
Things that are launched into the air will return back down to the ground. Why? Because gravity, that's why. Whether it's someone jumping up as high as they possibly can, a football being thrown over an open field, or planes flying from place to place, these things can't remain off the ground forever; eventually, due to the force of gravity, they will come back down. Hence, this phrase looks like it came from a basic observation of what gravity does to people or objects.

This idiom was being used at least as far back as the 1800s and its wording is identical to what we say today.
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>>181083116
>Madonna & Tiara never made it past the planning stages
>Sally is kill
>Mina is kill
>Amy is the only girl who likes Sonic left
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>>181083652
Whatever you say anon.
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>>181084006
SEEING THE WORLD SPINNING UPSIDE DOWN
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>>181084045
found the autistic anon. Do enjoy playing sonic games?
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These things had a name?
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>>181080920
I dunno, becomes an anti-hero and starts shit to have something to do?
>>181076440
2nd least favorite Classic game but it's alright
>>181083713
I spent hours in SA2's soundtest
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>>181084323
A MIGHTY CRASH WITHOUT A SOUND
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>>181084379
I didn't those things were worth naming. It also reminds me of that one arcade star villain.
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>>181084550
>I spent hours in SA2's soundtest
Man, I remember loading up a Sonic game so I could listen to the music while tiding my room and stuff.
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>>181084613
I CAN FEEL YOUR EVERY RAGE
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Sonic does not need momentum and physics-based platforming.
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>Mfw Mania flops because everyone is busy playing Crash.
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>>181085401
STEP ASIDE I'LL TURN THE PAGE
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>>181085421
He needs more dakka.
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>>181085427
>tfw not buying either at launch because salty about no vita version but also poor
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>>181069218
The Sonic characters get more of the spotlight, so it's not a big of a deal if you're not a fan.
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>>181085427
Maybe if it was released before Crash like they said people would be playing that more instead. I'm still getting both even though I don't have a PS4 yet.
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>>181085641
Vita is still a thing?
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>>181085558
BREAKING THROUGH YOUR CRAZY MAZE
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>>181085871
LIKE A LASER BEAM MY EYES ON YOU
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>>181085991
SOONNIICC HEERROOEESS.
SOONNIICC HEERROOEESS.
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>>181085991
I'm not any of those, but there's no singing aloud, anon?
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>>181086115
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>>181083809
Where the fuck is opposite anon?
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>>181086115
one line at a time? it's just annoying. post the whole song with a link and move along.
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>>181085991
>>181086226
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>>181084183
>and she still won't win the sonic bowl
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>>181086064
WATCH ME, RULE THE NIGHT AWAY
WATCH ME, SAVE THE DAY
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>>181086181
>>181086332
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>>181086438
FEEL MY STORM IS GETTING CLOSE
HEADING YOUR WAY
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>>181086594
SOOONIC HEROOOEES
SOOONIC HEROOOEES
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>>181086752
BIND YOU, CONFINE YOU
DEFYING YOUR REIGN
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>>181086949
SOOONIC HEROOOEES
SOOONIC HEROOOEES
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Gotta go at a reasonable pace.
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>>181087216
SETTING THE STAGE FOR A HERO'S PARADE
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>>181087293
that's some decent bedroom advice, anon.
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CONFOUND THOSE SONIC HEROES! OH HOW I HATE THEM!
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>>181087865
Inside Outside attack!
Surpass everything altogether!
I won’t let anyone
or anything get ahead of me!

Inside Outside, GO! SONIC!!
Everything altogether, Yes! Sonic!!
“Watch out” and “Have a nice” are similar
That’s right – both are by the skin of your teeth
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>>181088364
Didn't Pollock record himself spewing the whole rant?
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>>181086558
A N D T H A T G R U E S O M E I M A G E
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>>181088795
If he did, I would sacrifice my brother to hear it.
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>>181088364
A MASTER EMERALD. I'LL STEAL IT. NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW.
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>>181051721
Cream is an irrelevant nobody who just exists to be cutesy sidekick for amy.
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>>181086558
Maria canonically has giant fucking alien eyes.
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>>181089254
She's cutesy shit created for Sonic X, which is why she quit appearing after that ended.
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this thread is getting weird fast
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>>181089254
>>181089439
Cream is one of the only things keeping the god of destruction's offspring from going on a rampage, it's a necessary cutesy.
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>>181089470
I think Sonic is a pretty girl.
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>>181089082
Why didn't Shadow ask Rouge about his past instead of Black Doom or Eggman?
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>>181088364
>>181089238
Dear rich Amy Rose, HOW I LOVE HER! Father's money
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>>181089620
Because that would make sense.
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>>181089439
She was in sonic adventure 2 battle and sonic advance 2 and sonic heroes before sonic x
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>>181089620
I can't remember what Rouge did in that game. Was is it nothing?
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>>181089620
Because he barely knew Rouge. He only worked with Rouge in Heroes in order to find out about his past. He didn't get to know her until his adventures in G.U.N. between Shadow and 06.

>>181089845
G.U.N. stuff
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>>181089567
No Sonic is a WAY PAST COOL GAL!
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>>181090197
What does rule 63 amy look like?
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I fucking love everything about Diana Skelly's style. Why the fuck hasn't she done more than just one arc?
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>>181090197
>flat
seriously nigger?
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>>181090197
That's pretty good.
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Remember when Sonic and Sally had kids that were basically mini versions of them? And were basically named after Sonic's siblings in Underground?
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>>181090489
Remember when sally was relevent?
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>>181090489
I try not to.
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>>181090489
Good god why is this comic so autistic
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>>181090489
Sadly.
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>>181090489
Remember when they were baleted from all time and then they had the same kids again at an old age? I'm a sonally fag, but this was just fucking weird.
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>>181090489
Yes, and I had absolutely no problem with that arc.
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>>181090489
Thankfully no, I didn't read that shitty comic.
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>>181090489
>MXYL
>That literal fanfiction-tier arc
I liked the comics (post-reboot mostly) & don't even hate Sonally, but that shit sucked.
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>This one single frame inspired so much rouge and tails /ss/ despite them never interacting ever again
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>>181090489
>Tfw Sonally fag
>Tfw shit like this and pretty much everything post Decesare fucked it beyond all repair
>Best interactions they had after that were reboot
>>181090635
Because this was an attempt to kind of fix the absolute travesty that was the original Mobius 25 Years Later. Granted, M30YL is marginally better, but if M25YL was a 1/10, this is maybe a 1.5 or 2
>>181090581
It's kind of sad how her character started out okay, got fucked beyond all repair, the person trying to fix her got kind of close (Relatively, Ian's Sally has problems of her own), then the comics got rebooted and her character was basically played super safe and while that made her decent, it also kind of made her forgettable. Sad too, because I think the other FFs outside of her and Nicole got off relatively well with the reboot (And Antoine but that's moreso him losing all the shit that made his development satisfying)
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>>181091262
Do you know any fanfiction that treat Sally better? Also, how would you have handled her?
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>>181090489
How could anyone stand this comic pre-reboot?
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>>181091337
Hey there are some gems in there

Like Treasure Team Tango
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>>181091335
>Do you know any fanfiction that treat Sally better?
If anything she gets it worse. Probably because most fics written with her in them are written by people who remember her pre-reboot self, and flanderize the fuck out of it. In most fics, she's not the Princess of Acorn, leader of the Freedom Fighters, and someone who shoulders insane responsibility. She's instead a scheming nag who wants to keep Sonic from seeing his one true love Amy (Because it's ALWAYS this shit) OR little miss can't be wrong who has to defend her precious Sonic from the psycho Amy

There's like maybe a couple of fics that don't involve this, but the majority is this. Also good luck finding ANY fics of the Archie cast, especially ones without romantic drama and NOT centered around Sally/Fiona/Scourge
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>>181091631
Sallyfags really hate amy
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>>181090416
She has.
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>>181091876
They're really different characters. They embody the western vs anime fight kind of. No shit it gets bloody and stupid. I liked the reboot where they were both friend zoned.
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>>181091876
Sally & Amyfags going to war with each other over who should be on Sonic's dick was/is one of the most autistic things I've ever seen in the Sonic fandom. Especially when anyone with a brain knows the superior option to Amy or Sally is both of them.
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>>181091337
Every long running comic has it's stinker arcs. You won't find a single one without them.
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>>181092157
I'm an Amyfag who doesn't ship with Sonic, pretty sure I'm not the only one.
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For the goddamn motherfucking life of me, I can't find the pic of Cream holding a sign saying "Silver a shit". I know I saw it in the Ride folder but I can't find it again.
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>>181091631
I'm gonna be honest with you. I have never seen a good Archie Sonic fanfic. Not even so-bad-it's-good. They're just bad.
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>>181092416
While that's true it's a miracle that the Sonic comic wasn't cancelled after it started nosediving. There are hundreds of other series that were cancelled for much, much less. A combination of brand recognition and Archie/Sega not really caring are what kept this book around so long.

>>181092607
I've read some that weren't bad. But then I can't remember the names of them either so that probably just speaks to them being more inoffensive and bland than anything.
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>>181092503
You're not, but it still happened. I am an Amyfag who ships with Sonic & that shit was stupid.

>>181092607
Champions was really fun. Some of the Universe arcs like Shattered was good too.
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>>181092607
Truth be told, I've found maybe one or two that are...decent. I mean, granted, summaries usually determine if I even try it, but the moment I see "Sally, SOnic and Amy" in the summary I bail.

I mean the only decent one I've read recently is about the fucking Hooligans and even then it has an OC that travels with them, and it went on hiatus because the writer got into Persona 5
>>181092781
I think he's talking about actual fics, not arcs.
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>>181092869
Ohhh, fanfic. Eh, I've seen some that weren't offensive, even some that featured Sonic/Amy & Sally that wasn't love triangle bullshit. But they're few & far between.
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>>181092869
Okay, one or two is underselling it, but I have seen a few fics that while not bad, aren't anything special. There was a cute one-shot showing what different couples do when they wake up, and a BUnnie fic that had her reflecting on Antoine's life (This was around the time Antoine got blown up and everyone assumed he was dead) that I liked though (Second chapter is crap though. He comes back to life because MXYL)
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>>181092869
Most of the ones I've encountered either have Degrassi-tier drama and romance and possesses the most horrifying grammar known to man.
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>>181093252
Or?
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I would sell my soul just to hold her.
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>>181093359
Yeah, I meant "or".
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>>181093360
>'W-who the heck are you? Get off of me! SONIC! HELP!'
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>>181092736
>While that's true it's a miracle that the Sonic comic wasn't cancelled after it started nosediving.
It actually was on the brink of it until Pellerito became editor and shoved Shadow and Metal Sonic into a ton of issues to spike sales until Penders quit.

Just in case people ever question whether Shadow was ever really that popular, he pretty much single-handedly saved the comic.
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>>181093360
>That's Sonic's un-gloved hand.
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>>181093495
I wonder how well Shadow's arcs for Sonic Universe sold.
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>>181093360
I want amy to call me onii-chan like in my anime
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>>181093495
Go to bed, Shadow.
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>>181093495
Why else did you think he was brought back in Heroes? He had a cult within the fanbase.

>>181093583
Probably higher than the regular arcs.
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>>181093360
CWC and Rosechu? delet ths
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>>181093459
>implying she wouldn't be drugged first
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>>181093360
That is a cute Amy.
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>>181093804
for you
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On the topic of fanfictions and ship-wars, I noticed in Sonadow fics (and sometimes Sonaze), Amy is usually bashed a lot.
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>>181093918
Most fanfic writers are female and really hate amy for one reason or another.
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>>181093775
>implying you wouldn't intentionally mess it up so that she whacks you with her hammer
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>>181093918
Amy is the closest thing to a love interest in the games so she's going to be bashed in any shipfic that isn't Sonamy. Same reason why Krystal is the defacto whipping post for Star Fox shippers.
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>>181093360
I would sell both testicles just to hear her fart through a walkie talkie
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>>181093918
But of course, how else can people justify their ship without shitting on everyone else. Same things happen with Knuxouge/Shadouge or Tailsream/Tailsmo. I would say I'm surprised it didn't happen with Sallicole/Shardcole but honestly the fanbases for both are so small I doubt they even see each other. And the Espio/Nicole shippers are like 3 people now
>>181094028
To be fair, didn't Krystal literally fuck up the franchise for 10 years
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>>181094001
Most female fanfic writers who make yaoi usually hate the female love interests.
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>>181094064
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It probably could have been a highlight of the dark ages if Sonic and Sally had some reasonable discussion about their relationship. But no its... called the fucking dark ages for a reason.
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>>181094075
>To be fair, didn't Krystal literally fuck up the franchise for 10 years
AND brought a legion of highly perverted furfags to the point you couldn't discuss anything Star Fox-related without them jizzing over Krystal at every opportunity.
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>>181094064
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>>181094325
So basically what happened with Wander over Yonder?
>>181094309
That arc and every character in it would need a massive rewrite to be readable
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>>181094064
There is a reason no one want your testicles, anon.
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>>181094064
Here we go again. We can't get through one thread without someone getting weird.
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>>181094064
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>>181094571
I bet someone's going to try and top it for kicks.
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>>181094064
Include me in the screencap
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>>181094309
>It probably could have been a highlight of the dark ages if Sonic and Sally had some reasonable discussion about their relationship
If anything that would've made it worse since the arc was already nothing but people talking forever about nothing.
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Let's get weird, Let's get weird. Let's get weird.
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>>181094705
I bet the comment in question was made for kicks.
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>>181094309
Also I thin the main problem is that Penders, while yes, he can't write ANY character for shit, cannot write Sally worth 2 shits. In fact, I would argue that having her be so accepting of marrying Antoine is WORSE than The Slap. At least The Slap, for all the fucking problems it had, was the start of an attempt to bring her character back. All Penders was going to do was hook Sally and Sonic back up after Sonic got his fill of Fiona. I mean, he did try to kill her off a few times because her father supposedly made her redundant or some shit, which then makes him look like an ass when he introduces a literal r63 Sally
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>>181095045
Elias deserved better.

Fuck it, all of the characters deserved better. Sonic deserved a better book. They deserved better adaptations of the games. Everyone deserved better.


Except your favorite character.
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>>181095998
I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE SPOILERS!
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>>181095998
>Elias deserved better.
To be fair, he eventually got written into a really likable and interesting character who became more than what he originally was.

You know who else deserved better? Mina. Mina got a raw fucking deal.
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Was this kino?
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So when is the Lara-Su Chronicles gonna debut? Last I heard, it was supposed to come out in 2012.

>>181097025
This was the best scene in Heroes. Prove me wrong.
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>>181097249
>Prove me wrong.
Intro to Egg Fleet.
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>>181097249
>Prove me wrong.
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>>181097249
>dead comics
>dead LHT
>dead lara-su

Probably none of these will come out until after mania and forces are out.
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>>181097249
>So when is the Lara-Su Chronicles gonna debut? Last I heard, it was supposed to come out in 2012.
Probably never, but I wish it would because I'd love to see that shitshow
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNHq2TVuS_4

For those who care, someone combined the last 2 eps of Sonic Boom into a double feature
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>>181097583
Same. The descriptions he gave for his characters was enough of a trainwreck, could you imagine what a full comic could be like?

>>181097585
Hey hey, this ain't the thread for this discussion.
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>>181097447
>pepe the frog
>serious business
>wins presidency

Autistic furries just like us, Sanik 2020.
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>>181097249
It will never "come out".

It might get a good few pages and such, but that's as far as it'll go. Penders is an auteur artist and will spend as long as he likes perfecting his 10/10 would read again one of a kind best in the world GOAT comic about not-Knuckles

>>181097760
Wasn't one of his characters literally just Mike Tyson in a spacesuit?
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>>181097884
This guy?
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>>181097884
I haven't herd a peep about it for almost two years now, does he still try to go to conventions?
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>>181097884
Did-

Did he trace this??

>>181098089
Hadn't seen that version of him before, but I was remembering him looking like Tyson without the tattoo for some reason. But this is even worse.
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>>181097210
>half-right
Is that a fucking pun?
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>>181097360
Muhahaha... you fools must all have a death wish? Witness this invincible battleship, built by the hands of a genius. Its power... unmatched throughout the universe!
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>>181098089
How is something like this even possible?
I mean, just look at it...christ

THAT ECHIDNA HAS FUCKING FACIAL HAIR!
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>There are people in this thread right now who don't own a body pillow so they can cuddle with Sonic every night.
Sad.
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>>181098449
Is there an amy pillow?
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>>181097249
Penders is literally waiting for someone or some company to fund him for that horror show. It's going to be on indefinite "hold" because no one wants to be involved with that thing.
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>>181098449
>there are people in this thread right now who didn't make a custom fursuit for an actual human skeleton so they can cuddle with Sally every night
Sad.
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>>181098089
harpoon guy is still hilarious. Surprised no anons hacked his computer yet or something.
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>>181099104
JESUS CHRIST
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>>181099104
>this still exists somewhere
>imagine the smell

delete this
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>>181099104
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>>181099104
Has there ever been a fanbase as great as ours?
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>>181099104
Oftentimes I'll say people exaggerate the depravity of the Sonic fanbase.

Then I see shit like this.
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>>181099612
I mean the Undertale fandom did try to murder someone fairly recently with a needle in a cookie
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How did you guys react when this came out?
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>>181099612
Someone from the mlp base probably has fucked a dead horse. But they didn't post pics on the web and brag about it.
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>>181099104
Mother of god, I don't think even the pony fandom has anything on the sonic fandom.
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>>181099104
I have no words.
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>>181099735
I let out a heavy sigh because it's what I'd call "LPbait". It's the epitome of LOLSORANDUMB humor mixed with "SONIC IS BAD AMIRITE".
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>>181099787
Meh, actually fucking horses has been a thing before magical horse show.

But I think Sonic may actually be the worst.
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>>181099715
Okay, what now? Is there a story on this?
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>>181099104
what a great reason to be cremated
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>>181099104
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>>181099104
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>>181100001
Usually wouldnt reccomend reddit but here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/6akpsc/a_fan_literally_tried_to_murder_a_fanartist_over/
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>>181099104
The fucked up thing is; I think heard that the person agreed to donate their skeleton to him when they died.
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>>181100156
He must have been pretty fucking worthless if he thought his skeleton being used for that would be good use
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>>181098306
>"Alright,Eggman, let's get this party started!"
>"You'll regret this,doctor. even if I'm not real, I'm still the ultimate life form,Shadow the hedgehog!"
>"If you want a fight, you've got one! Let's get the bloated buffoon!"
>"Once we start a job, we finish the job, that's our policy, we're Team Chaotix!"

I do find it funny how the three man team gimmick became tacked on to everybody in Sonic after this, Team Babaloyn Team Hooligan, Team PSI, Poor Blaze never got the chance to get a team because she only has Marine and they never got a chance to use her post reboot
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>>181100156
I heard he killed his girlfriend because she wasn't perfect like Sally.
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>>181099104
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>>181100265
I heard it was a she, but I'm not 100% sure.
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>>181100134
>Sans x Frisk.
What a terrible ship.
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>>181099104
>>181099445
>>181100005
>>181100156
After further research, apparently it's not a real skeleton and it's just carved out of wood. Still creepy, but not completely morbid.
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>>181100667
Do you have a single fact to back that up
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>>181100398
They stopped featuring Big in almost anything, and Big has never been very popular, and Team Rose was always the "girly" team, so I always thought it would be incredibly fitting if Blaze replaced Big in Team Rose for a future game.

Blaze is even designed around Big too, so she fits right in.
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>>181099795
I don't know. boiling a figurine in a jar of semen is pretty bad
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>>181100667
>>181100758
And don't say it's the guy's word. Because he probably said it was fake so nobody would call him out on how fucked up it is to have a real skeleton.
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>>181100936
What's wrong with having a skeleton?
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>>181100758
>>181100936
Because if you look at the bones themselves it's blatantly obvious they're not real.
http://gradendine.deviantart.com/art/Building-Sally-2-137842006
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>>181101135
>Comments have been disabled
That's when you know.
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>>181101135
BEHOLD: http://gradendine.deviantart.com/gallery/6707662/Sally
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>>181101135
>that gallery

JUST
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>>181100134
jesus christ. Our fandom may be weird and autistic but at least we're harmless.
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>>181101421
It's so fucking horrifying. To think some blue, video game hedgehog that can run fast, made by Japanese men, can produces this.
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>>181101421
>>181101432
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>>181099104
>>181101135
>>181101421
I hate this fandom so much.
I wish my mom had bought me a SNES instead of a Genesis when i was little.
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>>181101421
>>181101135
>>181099104
>>181100134
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>>181075475
I wouldn't say favorite, as much as I would love to say it. Knuckles and Jet are my favorite Sonic characters instead.
Roty catches my eye easily out of all members of Freedom Fighters, and he's the character that I only care of Archie's universe, outside of Sonic Mega Drive comics, to say the truth. Over the years, seeing him getting better design only made me and my dick love him further, to the point that he has reached the state of perfection. I really like Roty for such reasons I could pick off.
First, because he's big. I have a thing for big guys. Therefore, I have a thing for Rotor. He makes me want to hug him. In case you wonder, yes, I like Big, Vector and Storm too aswell.
Second, because of his personality. Lazy, but optimistic and lovable (see Rotor hugging Nicole and conforting Cream in some situations). Not only I like this kind of personality (even if it might sound generic), but I also think it matches perfectly with Roty's design.
Third, because of his two simple accessories. The kind of green belt he wears around his body emphasizes his strong body, and the goggles not only gives the message he's into science, it also makes him look like he's a bear. Even more reasons to hug him, if you ask me.
Fourth, because he's based on a walrus, and we don't really see much of walruses on Sonic's universe, if we don't count Roty's homeland, if I'm not wrong. I like the diversity of animals on Sonic's universe, and Roty is helping on it.
Fifth, because of his saber tooths. I don't know, but for some reason, I really like them. I know he's a walrus, but it's something else that makes my heart pump out with his tooths. I think they make Roty looks manly or more handsome, or something.
And there's more, but theses make up.
I already said this before, but I never read any of Archie's Sonic, and I'm still not sure if I will at any moment. That's why I can't consider as my favorite character yet. He's my husbando.
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You wake up and see grandenine's "creation" at the foot of your bed. What do you do?
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>>181101751
And to continue it, you may assume it's because of Penders's crazy stuff, even though Rotor being gay was never shown on the comics and this was before the reboot (and nevertheless, I don't care about it, but I can say I got REALLY surprised once I knew this when I thought it was just some joke too). You may be right and I can admit it, but it's not the only reason. I simply do Rotorposting because I have a force of habit to always post pics while discussing, and that includes husbando pics, and that isn't the first time I do this. I'm aware I'm avatarfagging, so that's why I give a cooldown on my habit for every one, two or three hundred posts in one thread. Yes, I'm also aware everyone can report me (and especially receive the "USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST" stamp and be nominated as the joke of the century), but I don't take it seriously. I would just wait and then start posting, or even evade it if I have no patience.
To finish it, I like Rotor because he's a nice big guy. He would make a good friend or boyfriend. It's simple as that.
You're free to call me a retard for loving a character that I know little about it.
I'm sure I deserve it.


Sorry for the late reply and acting like Buckley.
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>>181099104
>all these fags who've never seen this before
How new are you guys? This is old shit.
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>>181101719
I had a playstation and I'm still here
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>>181102009
This is like the fifth time I've seen it, and it still fucks up shit up.
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>>181102009
I don't have time or the interest to keep up with all the degeneracy of the sonic fandom, I just like to play some vidya.
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>>181101421
the comments are complimenting this stuff
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>>181101421
I don't think it's that's creepy.
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>>181102094
did you mean to say: "And it still fucks my shit up."?
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>>181102009
I've seen it, it just never loses the shock. seriously wtf?
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>>181102187
Yes.
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>>181102237
It lost it's shock for me the moment I learned the bones weren't real. I've seen worse shit.
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I bet you guys couldn't build something like him. You watch your waifu. He MAKES his waifu.
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>>181102572
I don't have one, try again.
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>>181101751
>>181101886
>never read an Archie
>Rotor husbando

rare. Start with the issue where rotor builds a power suit.
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>>181102572
I will make her in 5-7 years.
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>>181102789
Just make a simulator on your computer.
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>>181102572
Looking back, I knew a girl in High School who reminds me a lot of Reboot Sally.
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I don't think it's scientificially possible for a sonic game to have dialog as cheesy and lame as sonic heroes or maybe even any video game for that matter.
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>>181102995
>You didn't have a vision of the future, capture her, and learn the surgical skills to transform her into your Nu-universe Acorn waifu.

For shame, anon.
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>>181103108
I would've agreed with you before I played FP but my god that game manages to top Heroes.
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>>181103208
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>>181103234
>FP
Do you mean Freedom Planet?
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>>181103379
that's not a sonic
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>ywn comfort Cream after a nightmare
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>>181103379
This explains everything about that show, never liked it.
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>>181103531
Thomas:
>Blue.
>Can go fast.
>There is a fat human.

Sonic:
>Blue.
>Can go fast,
>Has a fat human.

Basically Sonic-related.
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>>181103134
Cute pic.
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>>181103208
Sally isn't even my waifu but I did have a crush on that high school girl so I feel dirty even though I wasn't even a hardcore Sonic fan back then.
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>>181103407
The initials match up and it started off as a sonic fangame.
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>>181103737
You might be on to something.
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>>181103234
>>181103407
>>181103835
You guys know we don't talk about THAT game here.
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>>181103234
Heroes has camp value to it, FP does not.
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>>181103596
>hey, you know this character that's a small child
>what if she did things small children do
>and her mother did things mothers do
>that's my headcanon
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>>181103531
Kill me, the train
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>>181103879
>Autistic fanbase.
>Two worlds: Thomas' world and the real world. (Magic Railway).
>Red hothead.

It's Sonic: Train Edition.
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>>181103964
What is camp?
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>>181103964
I'm watching a video of FP and the writing is just laughingly bad. It's fanfiction being sold, that's what it is.
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>>181104151
Basically really over the top or really silly that doesn't take itself seriously.
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>>181104158
Hey, not every game can have Lucasarts-tier writing.
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>>181104158
I didn't think Freedom Planet's writing was that bad.
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>>181104158
There's a reason anyone who recommends it recommends playing through the mode without the story.
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>>181104414
It doesn't help the voice acting is subpar.
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>>181104151
>>181104287
That's not what camp is. Camp is when the writing is cringy, but you can tell the creator is trying hard to make a story that people will like and he's not just throwing bullshit at the screen.
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>>181104496
Hey, not every game can have Lucasarts-tier voice acting, either.
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>>181104534
60s batman is an example of what is considered campy. Now that is campy.
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>>181101886
>You're free to call me a retard for loving a character that I know little about it.

This is why I filter you. Nothing worse than a retarded faggot.
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I just beat Sonic Unleashed for the wii after all these years.

Was there nothing unlocked after you beat the final boss? I kind of feel like I wasted my time for some dumb reason.
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Would you want Shade in another Sonic game if it was possible?
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>>181104832
>>181105696
Honestly, this dude could improve. the arms look noodly in the second picture and the mouth/muzzle in general looks kinda fucky.
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I want to keep Sonic as a pet!
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>>181105926
he needs a huge pen and a ton of chilidogs
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>>181105696
Where the fuck is Rouge's torso? Did it disappear into thin air along with any talent this guy may have had?
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>>181104967
Looking at the Eggmanland records it shows I beat the final boss but didn't get a medal because I got a c rank. cool cool whatever.
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>>181105696
>>181106071
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>>181104967
No
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>>181105696
I dig the swimsuit
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>>181104828
Meant for
>>181106116

or other way around, brain is mush right now
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>>181103134
All curves, no breasts.
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>tfw there is no legal way to play the GBA games on modern consoles and I don't own a GBA or DS
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What's the worst thing a non-villain Sonic character has done?
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>>181107958
Well, Shahra loved the villain and nearly let him win, then cried over his "death".
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>>181107958
Be Silver
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>>181099715
>>181100001
>>181100134
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>>181107949
Just use VBA GX.
What's illegal about it?
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>infinite warfare is amazing
you cannot imagine my surprise
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>Ben Bates' deviantart account is deactivated
Damn, wanted to see what he had.
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>OVA
>AoStH
>Boom
>X (sub)
>SatAM
>Underground
>X (dub)
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>>181110271
those are the cartoons, yes. did you have a point?
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>be le me
>be classicuck
>have single digit IQ
>shitpost endlessly about how things that don't cater to me should not exist
>finally screech so loud I break segas brain
>they do nothing but cater exclusively to me for over a decade
>still can't stop screeching
>desperately try and succeed to get sonic comics canceled, thereby eliminating the last vestiges of anything that isn't Classicuck pandering
>go around telling people they should be thankful for my 11 year long concentrated effort to kill and butcher the franchise they liked
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Sonic's rich history allows him to be interpreted in a multitude of ways. To be sure, this is a darker incarnation, but it's certainly no less valid and true to the character's roots than the cute bubbly hedgehog kicking a funny fat man in the rear.
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>>181110716
what's the BTAS of sonic?
>>
gn
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>>181111623
Goodnight anon.
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>>181110767
Good one.
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>>181110325
He's ranking them, in which case I'd personally have it as:

OVA > X (dub) > Boom > SatAM > AoSTH >>> X (dub) >>>>> Underground
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>>181110271
OVA > Boom > X (sub) > AoStH > SatAM >>>>>>> Tails's VA in Sonic Heroes >>>>>>>>> X (dub) >>>>>>>>>>>> Underground

Posting best girl to confirm.
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Is there some kind of language barrier here? Does Sonic Team not know what the word sequel means? Or maybe they just don't know what constitutes one in the west.
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I feel like the people who think Underground is the worst Sonic cartoon haven't actually watched it. If you skip over the songs it's honestly a pretty decent show. Better than Sonic X at least.
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>>181115029
sonikku forces is notu a securar you purebu
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>>181115434
Jaleel's acting sucks as all 3 characters because he hit puberty, the plot is retarded, the songs are even worse than the crap you hear in the Mario cartoons, and the animation is absolute QUALITY.
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>>181115029
He's saying that while it has elements that were in Generations that it's ultimately a new experience and story that isn't connected to Generations, nor is it a game that's being used to celebrate the Sonic franchise like Generations was.

If I knew nothing about the game and it was called Generations 2, I'd think it's just solely a retread of the first one with just different old stages remade again. It needed a different name to separate it from that.
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>>181110128
Wasn't he on twitter and some other art site? It's all gone now jeez.
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Be quiet Sonic is sleeping.
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>>181116432
>ywn scritch the base of his ears and hear him purr
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>>181116432
Is that a dryer he's in? way past uncool.
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>>181116319
>Wasn't he on twitter and some other art site? It's all gone now jeez.
Don't know, it sucks when some or all of an artist's work just vanishes.
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I'm making a Sonic-related review video.

If I talked about Amy and said she was best girl, would that be revealing my power level too much?
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>>181117885
It would reveal that you have shit taste.
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>>181117885
Saying Amy is your favorite is okay, using the actual words 'best girl' is cringe.
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>>181118023
I know, but I was going for the self-aware type of cringe that Pan-Pizza does.
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>>181118079
>self aware cringe

I guess it would be fine then.
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>>181114517
*2nd was meant to be sub (obviously)
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>>181099735
I've played through it a few times. I think it's bloody brilliant.
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>>181115434
I totally agree, I had fun watching it. And some of the songs were catchy.

I just had more fun with alot of the cartoons than boom, maybe its just that I prefer Action and adventure in my Sonic. Boom is still good laughs though.
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>>181098306
>tfw still can't get the 7th emerald
it's like I'll never complete this stupid game
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>>180977850 >>180838965
OK done with Poster mags. Time to head back to the StC Christmas Special. I'm pretty sure these were both the 1994 december specials btw.
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>>181122845
Here we're continuing the story left off in >>180403761 .... a week ago.
Hey in IRL back in the day you had to wait two weeks for this shit.

Why would Sonic call Knuckles "Curly"? I may regret asking this question.
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>>181122958
In my head, Penguinators are always black for some reason, as the artist here has drawn them. But actually Penguinators are have blue armour. They've always had blue armour. Even though I remember them as black. Is this a Bernstein Bears moment?

Perhaps they regard Eggman as a chick and are incubating him during the harsh Floating Island Mid-Winter.
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>>181122845
>Sonic wanted Eggman as a present
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>>181123249
Knuckles dreadlocks are emerging surprisingly unsinged here.
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>>181123518
That was good lampshading by Stringer in the first panel. I think this is what lampshading is right? Or lamp-seguing?
Robotnik's plan here, is essentially to become the military equivalent of Amazon.

And is "mechinations" a typo? I can't tell.
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>>181123518
Of course, Knuckles isn't a wimp like Sonic,
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FUCK SONIC.
ALL HAIL SHADOW.
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>>181127228
HEROES RISE AGAIN!
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>>181123705
And again, this Fleetway Knuckles dig animation reminds me a lot of the SA1/SA2 Knuckles dig animation but whaeterv.

Fleetway never let up on the S/K banter for even one page. Does Archie do the same thing with Sonic/Knuckles dialog. I think what little I watched of the Sonic X anime kind of does this too.
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>>181127745
OK. Now the badniks have animals inside them again. I'm not sure Fleetway ever got consistent about this.
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>>181127228
>>181127731
>isn't rougher than the rest of them
>isn't best of them
>isn't tougher than leather
>chuckle
>doesn't flex his muscles
>isn't hard as nails
>dependent like the rest
Knuckles is better, adversaries get shelft.
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>>181127887
Once again, I like the Fleetway aspect of Knuckles which is, first and foremost, a Guardian of the Island and Master Emerald. It gives (gave) Knuckles that "responsible" aspect that Sonic lacked and really formed the core of the personality clash between the two. They're not rivals unless they have a reason.

What is Amy thinking in the last panel /sthg/
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>>181128154
Things that aren't safe for this board
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>>181128154
>>181128480
sonic gonna get sum fuk
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>>181105926
Cute!!
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>>181091042

Actually it was due to a now infamous scene in Sonic Battle. That was just icing on the cake.
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This is Wave the Swallow, engineer and mechanic for the Babylon Rogues. Say something nice about her!
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>>181130045
Can she even suck dick with that beak?
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>>181130045
No, she's absolutely shit.
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>>181105915
He does have serious potential. He's even gotten better about making the heads too big. Now if only someone would commission non-preggo art from him.
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>>181094423
Wait what happened with WoY?
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>>181094325
>implying there weren't already a legion of furfags before Krystal showed up
>implying that most furfags aren't gay for Fox, Wolf, and Falco

Also, saying one character ruined a franchise is retarded. People say the same thing about Shadow and Axl from Mega Man X, when really it's just the sub-par (or shitty) games that brought the franchises down.
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What did he mean by this?
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>>181131271
The 2nd season introduced a new antagonist that frighted the main characters, previous antagonist included, and it turned out to be fapbait disguising themselves in armor.
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>>181131719

Eh, to be fair you can really pinpoint the start of the Sonic fanbase's long decline after the introduction of Shadow and Rouge.
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>>181131929
rouge and shadow weren't in sonic adventure
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>>181103134
Fixed
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>>181129597
What scene was that again?
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>>181134925
>human face
ew
>breasts/hips too big
>tail poorly drawn
Lovin' the pokadot bikini and little 'sonnichu w/ shorts' bubble
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Is there such thing as actually good sonic OC?
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>>181136679
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>>181136840
>Good OC
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>>181136679
Define good
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>>181136679
>bump/sage
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>>181136679
>Good OC
OC that I like
>Bad OC
OC that you like
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>>181137573
Basically this.
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>>181137573
>Good OC
anything by sonic team
>Bad OC
anything by you
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>>181138331
>Sonic Team
>making OC's
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>>181138456
>What is shadow
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>>181138753
An official character.

He looks like an OC though.
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>>181138753
ultimate crybaby
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>>181138456
>any new character
>not an oc
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>>181139496
Infinite would fit.
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>>181138753
Shadow is a wannabe rat. Not even a real one.
>>
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>>181138753
>>181139496
Since when were official characters OC?
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Shadow is a fake. Can't even run fast like Sonic. Has to cheat with rocket shoes.
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>>181143386
Less literal definition, more how the character compares to other official characters.
IE, a character that's special for special reasons, has overpowered abilities and character design that doesn't mesh well with the rest of the cast, if creativity's lacking a recolour of one of the main characters does just as well, possibly edgy and "dark" because 13 year olds, etc.

Does most of that (sans maybe the abilities part) sound familiar to you?
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>>181144283
The things I would do to those hips, unf
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>>181144283
>tfw KLK showed you the joys of human, rule 63 Shadow.
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>>181144283
>a character that's special for special reasons
Because the main plot of SA2 kinda revolves around him. Same with Knuckles in 3&K, Tikal in SA1, Blaze in Rush and Silver in 06.
>has overpowered abilities
So he can teleport and throw laser spears. Big whoop. Going toe-to-toe with Sonic is not being overpowered. Blaze can do it too.
>character design that doesn't mesh well with the rest of the cast
That's ridiculous. That's like saying Bass doesn't mesh well with the rest of the Mega Man cast.
>if creativity's lacking a recolour of one of the main characters does just as well
It's not a goddamn recolor if their silhouettes are clearly distinguishable. I will never understand this. You only call him a recolor because he's a hedgehog.
>possibly edgy and "dark" because 13 year olds
Just because this is a children's video game series doesn't mean it has to be like Mario and Kirby. Franchises tend to get darker over time to grow with their audience. See >>181110716

You people need to get over this "LOL CRINGE RECOLOR" bullshit.
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>>181136679
Nope. OCs are bad and you should feel bad if you ever make one after the age of 12
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>>181138331
This. Leave the character and world and story creation to the people running the franchise. Your job as a fan is to buy it, or not.
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>>181138331
>Good OC
>Sonic team
>when the triggering six exist
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>>181145939
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Why are they called original characters instead of fan characters anyway, there is nothing original about them.
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>>181145223
The response was more so for
>Since when were official characters OC?
Not necessarily completely about Shadow, but

>First point
Yes, the plot revolves around him to a certain extent, but A, Not absolutely (That's Shadow the Hedgehogs (the game)'s job) and B, The other examples of characters and games they first appear in aren't nearly to the same levels of "Look at me I'm special" that Shadow is in SA2. They're there, but they're not overbearing in both characterization and personality (Expanded on with the spinoff game existing, but I digress).

>Second point
Did you not read the stuff in the brackets at the bottom of the post?

>Third point
A point more so for OCs in general rather than shadow specifically.

>Fourth point
Yes, their silhouettes are distinguishable, but only because Sonic's usually not depicted as Super Sonic as the primary form, which makes Shadows case worse. "My character's so powerful that he's basically super ALL THE TIME!!1!"

>Fifth point
There's nothing wrong about a series getting darker, but most people see the word "dark" and automatically assume tween/early teen definition of "dark", see Jak 1 to Jak 2. Genuinely dark and serious can be done, but it takes nuance that's lost on most people. Raiders to Temple of Doom's the best example I can think of, of darker gone right. I'm lost for video game examples, if anyone has any, that'd be great.
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>>181146069
Because the people that make them are delusional as shit and think any originality is involved in making thwm. Keep in mind most of these people are pre-teens either physically or mentally
>>181146049
Well it's true
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What is the most popular ship among females?
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>>181147747
sonamy?
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>>181112806
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>>181147747
>>181147907
Sonadow.
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>>181146916
>aren't nearly to the same levels of "Look at me I'm special" that Shadow is in SA2.
Pic related is a character that is also overbearing in characterization and personality in his series despite not being the main character, but nobody gave a shit because he was compelling and well-written. That's what you should be complaining about. It's hard to complain about a character being popular and more focus gets put on them because of that, but you can complain about Sonic Team's horribad writing.
>but only because Sonic's usually not depicted as Super Sonic as the primary form
Even then they're distinguishable. Super Sonic's hair sticks straight up like Goku. Yes they did look identical in SA2, but that was a moot point by the time Heroes came out. Besides, being visually similar to Super Sonic is what made him so striking in the first place.
http://sonikkuforever.deviantart.com/art/Super-Sonic-Shadow-and-Silver-142805197
>tween/early teen definition of "dark", see Jak 1 to Jak 2.
So? I said growing with its audience. You go from childish bright colors and happiness, to edgy teen angst, to finally something mature and smart. Jak 2 was jarring and it was clearly edgy for edginess sake, but it was still fun, well-written and never lost its sense of humor. Sonic Team tried to do that with SA2, but they went too far without changing the other characters to work around it.
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>>181148808
>because he was compelling and well-written.
Well, ok, scratch that last part. But he was still compelling.
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>>181148186
How do sonadow yaoi fangirls deal with amy?
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>>181149831
An annoying fangirl and ignored.
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>>181142103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz_9RHFnoSs
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>>181149831
>>181149973
Fujoshit solidarity
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>>181149831
Either >>181150070, or they do what other shippers do & shit on her for "being in the way" of their OTP.
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>>181149831
Menage a trois?
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>>181148808
>#1
"Look at me I'm special" tends to almost exclusively stem from bad writing (and character design), so fair point on that.

>#2
Striking doesn't excuse it from being OC levels of dumb, and although super sonic's design changing over time does alleviate this somewhat, It's not made moot when talking about the origin of Shadow's IRL creation, where he was designed specifically to look like super sonic but not.

>#3
From what I recall, most of Jak 2's humor came from both general use humor that had little to do with the setting, and the absurdity of the tone the game had. Not that tat kind of humor's bad, but having the game teen angsty even if it's played for laughs, unfortunately drags the plot down due to having to play it straight to contrast the humor.

I can't relate to "edgy teen angst", because I was self aware of the cringyness at that age range that I skipped that completely and went straight to "mature and smart(er)", so any attempt at a series "maturing" over time and going through that phase comes off as some combination of being dumb and/or straight up bad.
Even the concept of having to "grow up" with the audience seems to reek of development caring more about muh profits over cohesion of concepts complementing good gameplay to make good games. Changing things up for the sake of new-ness is fine, but please don't think that a audience has to be X age to enjoy a thing, and the only way to keep said audience is to change the game to what's perceived that they'd like at the expense of everything else.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_Z2der5Fx0
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/880480536682090496
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>>181151008
Best answer
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>>181151008
this.
hedgehog spit-roast, anyone?
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When you think about it, all characters are someone's O.C.

Just think about it.
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>>181151151
I played Jak 2 as both a kid and an adult and I can tell you the plot is actually pretty good and it still fits in with the lore and designs the first game had. You don't have to be an edgy teen to enjoy it. Other than Dark Jak, which doesn't have much to do with the plot at all (and was there for marketing more than anything) there's really not a whole lot of "teen angst" even with all the gun use. For me, Jak 2 was a nice middle-ground between Jak 1's cartoony-ness and the gritty realism in GTA.

This is why I never really had a problem with Shadow using guns in principle. The problem for me was that they were photorealistic military guns.
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>>181136504
>>breasts/hips too big
fag detected
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>>181151151
>>181152989
Yeah, Jak 2 wasn't all that "edgy", it was just darker and more adult than the first game. There was sexual humor and themes of revenge, but it wasn't afraid to be goofy.
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>>181152989
>>181153750
Anyone that thinks Jak 2 is edgy watched the intro cutscene and touched no other part of the game.
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>>181152989
>I played Jak 2 as both a kid and an adult and I can tell you the plot is actually pretty good and it still fits in with the lore and designs the first game had.

It was nice to see it all come back around despite the severe change in tone but boy that awful mission design and lack of checkpointing was real rough.
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>>181153845
Edgy isn't necessarily automatically (but usually is) bad. Although Jak 2 is a far superior game than shadow the hedgehog, going from what Jak 1 was to
>Post apocalyptic
>Most of the game's set in grungy cityscape
>Guns (cartoony or not)
>More focus on "mature" themes (read: T&A)
>Plot about straight up murdering a guy (as opposed to having it be sugar coated/cartoony).
>Primarily light on colours that aren't blue-ish grey (For the first part of the game at least, but it never truly brightens up.(Until right at the end?))
Yea, if that doesn't tick the edgy boxes, then I don't know what does.
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>>181155015
Dark isn't edgy and you're an idiot for confusing the two.
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>>181152874
If you use each words as their literal meaning I guess, but the term itself denotes non canon and fan made.
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>>181153575
Nah I agree with the anon. Keep it close to source or pick someone else that fits those characteristics.
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>>181155015
It doesn't tick the edgy boxes because it's not in your face about it in an attempt to be cool.
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>>181156137
>Nah I agree with the anon
About being a fag?
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>>181152874
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>>181155015
Admittedly dark might of been a more apt term to use, but there's so much overlap some people use the terms interchangeably.
So,
Genuinely dark:
>Straight up murdering people for possibly logical reasons and the ramifications for doing so.
>Exploration of life and death and the contrast between the two.
>How the psyche handles things like physical torture and the loss of either the self or things that person cares about.

Dark/Edgy:
>Post apocalyptic
>Grungy cityscape
>Guns
>T&A
>Borderline greyscale.
>Swearing for the sake of swearing.

>>181156151
It doesn't have to be in your face about it (Although at times in Jak 2 it definitely was.) to be distracting from other elements of the game.
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>>181156302
About hilarious off model art being awful.
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>>181156491
*Usually in your face about it for the purposes of comedy, but still.
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>>181156540
So about being a huge fag.
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>>181152874
Are you your parents' OC?
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>>181152874
Yeah, especially when the terms "original character" and "official characters" have the same initials that can be shortened to "O.C.", as surprising as this can sound.
For instance, I like Naoto's OCs.
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Ended up remodeling the torso, it was too low poly

Metallic map's not right, no idea how to properly plug PBR-based maps into a Marmoset, but at least this shows the textures aren't warping anymore. Need to move on to the other parts.
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>>181156871
Yeah, uh, wackity schmackity doo to you too friend-o
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>>181156491
You're an idiot. You're basically saying Mad Max is edgy.
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>>181156871
This is the most HD Gamma model I've ever seen. Did you make this yourself?
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>>181156871
Is it just me, or is his "face" a bit too small?
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>>181157021
There's a Gamma model made for Smash bros I discovered a few days ago I'd argue looks better, but I'm not willing to abandon the project

Yeah I made it myself, using the original Dreamcast Gamma model as a size reference and the 2006 and Generations Omega models as polycount reference. Ideally I want to make the whole E-series out of this.
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>>181156990
>Edgy isn't necessarily automatically (but usually is) bad.
Mad max is a example of edgy done right to the point that it transcends the term to just conceptually dark.
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>>181157149
Is it?
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>>181157301
You didn't happen to make this, did you?
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>>181157149
>>181157447
I agree, the orange/yellow face border should probably be a bit wider
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>>181157473
No I didn't.

It's clean, but I don't like that model's lack of joints, like in the shoulder-to-bicep area.
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>>181157313
>I-It's different because I like it!
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>>181157614
Looking at >>181157447, that's kinda how it is, isn't it?
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>>181157558
I'd rather not honestly, it looks a bit derpy when widened.

Plus editing the head in any way is a major pain and would necessitate a ton of backtracking
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>>181157447
I think it is. On the original model, the yellow part consistently widens from back to from, but your HD model seems to stop widening from about the middle of his body. Where original Gamma's face bit spreads out, the HD's just kinda goes straight forward.
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>>181157792
Well the eyes do angle out a bit, but I guess in trying to make what I felt looked best I deviated from the old intent.
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>>181157991
Do you have any tutorials for character modeling? I know how to use Maya but I suck at that.
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>>181157991
It's honestly only noticeable if you look at Gamma's front dead on.
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>>181158085
Do you have any programs besides Maya, because for more human-shaped models I'd recommend sculpting in Zbrush or some other similar first.

Gamma was made entirely in Maya since he's completely made of geometric shapes. It's really just a matter of building up complex shapes from simple primitives until they resemble the shape you want.

I'm normally a 2D artist so this is all an amateur attempt, I'm just trying to get better at 3D as well.
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>>181157657
Do you think it's impossible for something good to be something that's usually bad?
My entire point is that edgy & dark have a lot of overlap, but edgy tends to be for when it's done poorly and dark's when it's done right. Most things that might be one or the other are usually closer to center.
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https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/06/sonic-runners-adventure-feature-phone-footage-emerges/

weird
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>>181158512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyqu1y-gEik

it looks and sounds awful
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>>181158731
>
This was made for flip phones and Blackberrys that run on Java ME. Of course it's going to be worse than the version for smartphones.
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>>181158512
>>181158731

>Java ME
>2017
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>>181159391
Smart phones are evil.
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>>181159391
Believe it or not, some people still use shitty feature phones. Not everyone in this day and age has a smartphone.
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>>181159186
obviously but it's 2017. No one's using a feature phone these days. Even in 3rd world countries and rural parts of China and India, people are using smartphones.
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https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/880505498575003648

Is he right?
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>>181159757
nope
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>>181159757
It seems like he's mistaking the Sonic Adventure 3 Facebook page and SSMB for the entire fanbase.
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So Shadow kneels before Monster Mash and pledges his loyalty to the graveyard smash.
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>>181159757
>Someone says a thing on Twitter.
>"Oh, I better go post it on 4chan!"
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>>181159757
>TailsChannel
lol
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>>181159757
>lack of game design knowledge
oh fuck off, can I not have an opinion on a game until i make one myself?
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>>181158512
pff, I bet it comes nowhere close to the perfection that was Sonic Unleashed for phones
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This is cute.
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>>181160748
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u30FsGN0ZjQ
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>>181160771
Already posted. >>181151574
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>>181147930
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>>181159757
>lack of game design knowledge
>fans make their own romhacks and get hired by Sega to create their own games because of the knowledge of game design

When was TailsChannel even relevant anyway?
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>>181160849
Sorry, I skimmed through the unnecessarily long """discussion""" about edge and missed it.
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>>181161038
What is this an export for ants holy fuck it was at least twice as big when making it.

At least it's so small people won't notice the glaring errors.
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>>181161038
Big's fishing game, I guess?
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>>181161038
Never.
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>>181161038
but... where else will i get someone to read out todays sonic news?
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>>181161193
Be the change you want to see anon. Sonic would do it.
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>>181058912
hedgehyena
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>>181159757
>Please the entire fanbase

Lool, this lowcut budget Forces game is only gonna please the children and you know it.
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>>181159757
Who would've thought that a badly mistreated franchise with multiple shit games and a split fanbase would lose their sense of fun and humor?
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>>181161947
You can never please the entire Sonic fanbase because sub-groups of that fanbase cannot be happy when other sub-groups are happy.
>>
Trying to please the entire fanbase is honestly a very bad goal to strive for. It is legitimately impossible.
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>>181161947
add classic for retrofags
add boost for modernfags
add OC for deviant types
add story for story fags
keep story for none-story fags
add other characters for support
keep them as NPC for sonic only people

create a jack-of-all-master-on-none game

everyone goes 'ehh'
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>>181156007
Yeah but before they came official, they were original, well some of them are.

>>181156482
So does that mean I should put Blood on my Waffles?

>>181156801
I guess.

>>181156821
I mean it really depends on the way you use the word.
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>>181157301
>Ideally I want to make the whole E-series out of this
I'm excited to see Omega.
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>>181161947
I'm not a child & I'm pleased with Forces. You're only speaking for yourself, my man.
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>>181162146
>>181162456
It's impossible to please everyone because all the "factions" in the sonic community want different things. And some factions will bash something not because they think its bad, but because it's not their preferred gameplay style. See the adventure 3 crowd being upset with mania of all games. When it comes to Sonic, pleasing everyone is literally impossible. Why is this a goal?
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remember, next thread add the dev kit to the op. delete embeds too.
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>>181156674
>I don't like that this character is off model.
>F-FAG!

Fuck off Anon, if the artist wanted to draw a sexy female Sonic character that had a human like body, they he should have drawn Sally.

>INB4 you're a fag too.

No I just think the picture is shitty.
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>>181163410
What should it be called?
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>>181163271
Izuka is probably a dumb INFP who bases his decisions on emotions and ideals, instead of a smart INTP who makes rational, practical decisions.
>>
>>181163271
I guess SEGA just wants to appease their fanbase by trying to appeal to all of them. Sadly, short of making a separate Adventure game, Boost game & Classic game, that won't work. And even then, you'll have autists on each side complaining about the other side getting shit at all.
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WOAH
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>>181162687
>forgetting the adventure fanbase

>>181163234
>myself
Have you've been blind by the backlash since March 16th? Please.
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>>181163772
I've also seen people hyped for the game. Please.
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>>181163610
Game design general? With that picture of Iizuka tiled on the floor.
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>>181163706
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>>181163854
I meant, what do we call the dev kit when it's added to the OP?
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>>181163271
>And some factions will bash something not because they think its bad, but because it's not their preferred gameplay style.
See: everyone in this thread, including you, who hate Boost because it's not muh momentum-based platforming.
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>>181163840
Yes and they're in the minority in every thread I see, youtube reviewers always blindly love Sonic but not this game for "some" reason.

How could you be pleased by this?

This is a NEW game. This can work for mania but this game doesn't have these privileges. We've been waiting so long for a main title modern sonic game and this is all we get? Good thing the OC creator will keep this game a-float with the kids. So Sega can try again next time.
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>>181163978
Oh sorry. it's called -STHG- Level Development Kit.
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>>181163410
Wheres the dev kit so i can add it?
Baking.
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>>181164373
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9wQojS0lxpTkNyZTZCdWFkM2c/view?usp=sharing
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>>181164174
>everyone in this thread
Speak for yourself double nigger, I like Boost. Not my preferred style, but it's still fun.

>>181164271
>How could you be pleased by this?
>Boost isn't as easy to spam as it was in Gens & looks fun
>OC creator looks to be decent & Buddy's design has grown on me
>Eggman winning (even if it wasn't on his own) is awesome
>The other characters doing more than the last few games is great, despite being NPCs
>The music for OC & Modern sounds good
>The graphics on the PS4, Xbone & PC looks great
That's how. It's not my dream Sonic game, but neither is Mania & I'm happy with both. Get over it, anon.
>>
This thread is full of the saltiest motherfuckers on the internet, I swear.

Its fucking depressing seeing how you guys jump hoops to justify why nobody should be enjoying something, and how everyone totally agrees with you, nobody could possibly have a different opinion or anything.
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NEW BREAD
>>181164643
>>181164643
>>181164643
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>>181164542
Good for you.
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>>181164174
>See: everyone in this thread, including you, who hate Boost because it's not muh momentum-based platforming.

What? Sure, its shallow compared to momentum based gameplay like the classics, but I don't hate boost. If Forces was just Modern Sonic's boost gameplay with other playable characters (like Silver, Shadow, Chaotix, etc.) it would be a day 1 purchase for me.
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>>181164682
You stupid fucking nigger.
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>>181164794
But Iizuka says MUH SONIC ONLY since 06 is such a fun and productive experience path though.

Doesn't make anything stale right?

Right?
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>>181164909
Wow rude.
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>>181163580
Now that's a cute Amy.
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Sticksposting
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>>181165470
SHIT. Wrong waifu pic
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>>181160047
Shadow Smash 5 confirmed.
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Gotta go fast to page 10!
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>>181167087
Not if I can help it.
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>be me 10 minutes ago
>at home by myself, roommates not coming home for another 20 minutes
>listening to buttrock Sonic songs on our Amazon Echo
>"Alexa. Volume 6."
>"LIVE AND LEARNNNNN HANGING ON THE EDGE OF TOMORROW"
>aww yeah this is happening
>need to take a shit
>go to the bathroom
>forget my phone
>poop to the sweet sounds of distractionless Crush 40
>it's taking too long
>peek out the door and see I have 15 minutes until the roommates show up
>huh, no problem
>suddenly sense a disturbance
>can hear the slam of a car door over the music somehow and feel the vibration through my bones
>I know that they're here, I can sense them in my feet
>not finished pooping
>"Alexa"
>no blue ring
>"ALEXA"
>fuck she can't hear me over the music
>hear the jiggling of the front door doorknob
>"AAAALLLLEEEXXXAAAA"
>start wiping furiously and pull up pants
>hear the door open
>open the bathroom door and storm out
>our eyes meet
>"AND TOGETHER. WE CAN. OVERCOME ALL THE ODDS. IT'S NEVER AS HARD AS IT SEEEEEEEMMMMSSS."
>"Hey how's it going just let me get through here real quick haha"
>walk by like nothing is wrong
>"EVERY. ONE CAN. DO SOMETHING SPEEEECCIALL. THE SECRET IS SHARING OUR DREEEEAAAMMMS. "
>unplug the Echo
>"It must have heard me on the talking on the phone in the bathroom and it got confused haha"
>roommates just look at me and go into the other room

Shoot. Not my day.
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>>181167548
>being this autisitc over music
>not having headphones

Mate.
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>>181167548
Post this in the new thread.
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>>181163580
Needs pink torso variant
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>>181169280
>Needs topless variant
I agree.
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