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Welcome to the Sonic General. Here we talk about all things Sonic! Share art and music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, Team Dark and more.

/sthg/ #807 - Team Dark edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Sonic News<
Sonic Mania vids:
6 Minutes of Gameplay: http://youtu.be/uB9RP2SV8HY
Green Hill Boss : http://youtu.be/X1GZbQgtGLY
Chemical Plant : http://youtu.be/4TX2I3iUORQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52UGIIIp9WE
Pre-order Trailer: http://youtu.be/wvD8NZN9Zsg

Sonic Forces vids:
Sonic Forces E3 trailer:
https://youtu.be/dprxYd_16Ck
7 minutes of Gameplay: http://youtu.be/fyTzm8WgtlE
Full level Gameplay: http://youtu.be/6g6_rRqjlCI
Avatar Gameplay: http://youtu.be/TJZfptketUc

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>General Interest Links<
[NEW] Birthday Bash Zone
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9wQojS0lxpamZnSzItcURDUFE/view?usp=sharing

Sonic Time Twisted
https://overboundstudio.com/index.php?action=game_page&id=1

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1 + Source Code
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html
http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/Vh05gC9s/file.html

Green Hill Paradise Act 2
https://mega.nz/#!bdtByBRB!QENQpUU2fzjYSs79s0Y0lR5Zx1Tt5CI6v3f-buPsUo4

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom-season-2
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If you have any images pertaining to Team Dark laying around, please share them. Wether it's the individuals or the team together.
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>>180940421
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I've always liked the idea of Sonic having aquaphobia.
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>>180940703
they riffed on that in sonic boom as well
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Would you play a Adventures of Sonic visual novel?
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>>180940816
rouge sexually teasing tails WHEN
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>>180941085
Yes
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>>180941026
No, they riffed on Sonic not being able to swim.
I mean an actual irrational fear of water.
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Chaos...
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>>180941296
You mean Sonic has rabies?!
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>>180941620
That's hydrophobia.
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>>180941157
Since the existence of headcanon.
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>>180941565
Don't do it, Shadow.
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>>180941085
Is that even a question?
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>>180941565
Faker
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>>180941859
Is that the correct Shadow model? Looks stubby to me.
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>>180941946
I don't know. It's from Sonic Runners, isn't it? I never got a chance to play that.
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>>180941085
Harem route?
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>>180941778
Chaos...!
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>>180941946
>>180942054
Runners chibi-ized the models so there wouldn't be size differences.
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>>180941296
no he's afraid of water in the episode and even more afraid by the end because he almost drowned
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>>180942342
Don't do it, Shadow!
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>>180943109
Chaos...!!!
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>>180943234
DON'T DO IT, SHADOW!
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>>180943297
C H A O S
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>>180943427
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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>>180943457
Harmony.
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Post cute hogs.
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>>180943731
is there a higher res version of that pic, possibly without Photoshop lens flare? because that is comfy as fuck
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>>180943731
*Sits down under the sun in a grassy field with his waifu*
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>>180943871
I just tried googling for the perfect image to use, and I found that by chance.
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Shadowanon! You HAVE to do it! PLEASE!
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>>180944232
For the last assfucking time, I will not indulge your shitty SEGA forums-tier cringe joke.
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What if the Souls of Maria and Black Doom are within Shadow, and he hears them talk to him and narrate to him and stuff?
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Bored, doodled something on topic.

I'm going to get a cheapish tablet tomorrow, drawing with pens and blunt pencils doesn't make for good practice.
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>>180940830
There a four save files and a no save mode. Just pick an empty file, complete an act, and it'll automatically save. The next time you play it'll continue from the last act that wasn't completed. If you're worried about the Spin Dash, you can actually turn it off in the settings.
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>>180945927
I don't understand.
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>>180947234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7cyG5D3uwk

The idea was funnier in my head, admittedly.
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>>180945927
Kek
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I'm counting on you guys!
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I just remembered that Sonic appeared and provided foreshadowing exposition in a theatrical Disney movie
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The first 20 minutes of the Sonic movie should adapt the final moments of Sonic 1 starting from Scrap Brain, then the rest of the film adapts Sonic 2. The whole movie is about the relationship between Sonic and Tails.

But nope, they're just going to take Sonic Boom, and fill it with product placement and toilet humor.
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>>180949110
You posted this in the last thread.
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>>180949110
if only they'd make it a sonic boom movie
>sony
>live action cgi
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>>180949161
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>>180949274
what no why
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>>180948938
Hmph!
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>>180942059
Fairly easy, the hardest part is convincing Katella and Breezie to dump Robotnik and R. Jr. respectively. AND get the peaceful resolution between Katella and Merna. However this is only because those are the only parts that require skill rather than dialogue trees.

However, to get the secret ending and 100% completion, you have to get the time-travel shoes from Caininestein. You normally do this in order to unlock the Penelope route. But you have make sure she hooks up with Masonic (get the chili dog from Roxy first before going back in time). THEN you have to go forward in time to get Von Schlemmer's duplicator, go back, duplicate Penelope and then take her back to the future. It's a complicated route but it's worth it.
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>>180949274
I wouldn't mind a made for tv Sonic Boom movie but not a theatrical one.
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Is Shadow Fall any good, and is the trade paperback actually going to be released?

It's slated for September I think, the next Volume (and probably last) in line to be released, but with all this Archie drama, I am not even sure we're going to get this.
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New stage name confirmed: City Heights

http://www.nintendo.co.uk/News/2017/June/Interview-Sonic-Team-talks-Sonic-Forces-for-Nintendo-Switch-1238419.html
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>>180949719
Affirmative!
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I'm sick of being an autistic Sonic fan.
I want this rat out of my head.
I want him out!
OUT!
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>>180950559
Bird, Beards and Dogs confirmed as playable animals.

Although "Bird" is too vague, will it look like Jet, Wave, Storm, or a new design?

Also "City Heights" excites me because almost without fail, the City/Urban levels in modern Sonic games are y favorites.
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>>180950725
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>>180950559
>Park Avenue
>City Heights

"PLACE ADJECTIVE"
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>>180950559
>Players will also have seven animal types to choose from: hedgehog, wolf, bird, rabbit, bear, cat and dog.
Not sure if we knew this already, but yeah
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>>180950871
>>180951036
But those were already confirmed months ago.
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>>180950996
It's literally the same place. Granted the stages are original enough but come on.
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>>180950871
PLAYABLE BEARDS CONFIRMED
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>>180951082
I hadn't heard anything about playable Dogs and Bears, so it's news to me
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Apparently City Heights is just the Modern name for Park Avenue. Sorry guys, my bad.
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>>180931065
Sonic 1 (8bit) Scrap Brain/Jungle
Sonic 2 (8bit) Green Hills/Scrambled Egg
Sonic Eraser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxP0n7h_914
SEGASonic the Hedgehog Icy Isle
Sonic Chaos Aqua Planet Master System/Electric Egg
Sonic Spinball Toxic Caves
SegaSonic Cosmo Fighter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaSQq5EDfxU or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ0VfSXFK44
Sonic Drift https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87I-TXhPZuc
Sonic Drift 2: Options Theme/Final Road/GP Select Theme/Ice Cap/Rain Savannah/Credits
Tails and the Music Maker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kw4rTbX2Rk
Sonic the Hedgehog's GameWorld: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyDXj4e9w1k
Knuckles Chaotix Door into Summer/Evening Summer
Tails Adventure Poloy Forest/Sea Fox
Tails Skypatrol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRHeDhViMms or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QOvM4UWRzU
Sonic Labyrinth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2VTwoDt73c or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2VTwoDt73c
Sonic the Fighters Black Bed/KIYO
Sonic Blast Silver Castle/Final Boss
Sonic's Schoolhouse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne5mccT0IE0
Sonic Shuffle Blizzard of Coast
Sonic Battle Holy Summit
Sonic Pinball Party https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD1smfRAwIo
Rivals Crystal Mountain Act 1
Rivals 2 Neon Palace Act 2
Riders Splash Canyon
Zero Gravity Cashell's Ungravitify
4:1 Lost Labyrinth Act 2
4:2 Sylvania Castle Act 3
Free Riders Chris Madin's Free
Shattered Crystal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onf-lskxe3I
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>>180951308
But it was called Park Avenue in Modern Sonic's gameplay preview.
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>>180944443
Can you read off your post
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>>180951597
No.
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>>180951434
Colors: Sweet Mountain Act 1
Bejing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUwXAmHyezw
Vancouver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlLaBKPdstA
London https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD4aWaD3JX8
Sochi
Rio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X6dgwaxhPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vhn5uINmF4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1XKZY3uFAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA5n0K7HglI

Rise of Lyric https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yypYfBxQh4
Sonic Jump Fever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gysMWOohF4M
Sonic Runners https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyKjd4YOwjg
Fire and Ice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUOOGUFQ6RA
Mania https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQxbS6ff_0c
Forces Park Avenue Modern Sonic
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>>180951687
Whoops, forgot one: Sochi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJlprIGqyw
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>>180951871
Who would be the Carl of the Sonic universe?
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>>180951871
Eggman obviously.
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>>180952183
Coconuts when he finally gets tired of Robotnik's shit
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>>180952183
Big
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>>180952280
meant for >>180952183

Actually my headcanon is Carl lives somewhere in Station Square.
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>>180952514
>ATHF adaptation of Sonic Adventure never ever
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>>180950092
Sounds more like a point and click than a VN.
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I HEAR NO SEE NO EVIL
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>>180951871
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>>180950559
Oh fuck, this is reminding me of that fake rumour a while back with a level called Shattered Heights.
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>>180952723
We at least have this.
https://youtu.be/dyuxCosD6Io
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>>180953000
BLACK WRITING ON THE WALL
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>>180950559
Weren't there suspicious pictures of Modern Sonic in a blue city a few threads back? That may be City Heights.
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>>180953059
>>180953260

>>180951308
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>>180953431

>>180951506
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>>180952514
>headcanon
*fanfiction
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Why is he so smug?
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>>180953248
UNLEASH A MILLION FACES
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Can you guys recommend some really bad really autistic fanfiction?
I want the absolute worst.
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>>180953549
>gay
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>>180941565
fart!
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>>180954035
You're one to talk Shadow.
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>>180952951
That's why it's great, it's all the benefits of a VN but with some actual challenge.
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Anyone know how I can save the game on the 'sega forever' sonic 1 app?

Also, sonic 1 with spindash just feels unnatural.
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>>180954001
Green Hill Academy
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>>180954238
>>180946949
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>>180954164
But I just wanna fap and have emotional times with all the waifus. Domination is an emotion right?
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>>180953023
someone needs to get Sticks' VA to say this.
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>>180954158
Shadow's not gay. He's asexual and just wants to be left alone.
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>>180955197
>"Just what the hell was that all about?"

I hate censorship.
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>>180955197
Then why is he kissing Sonic?
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>>180955051
Then find an image gallery.
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>>180955338
Because some edgy 14 year old projected themselves onto Shadow.
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Would Marble Zone be less hated if Sonic 1 had a different Zone order?
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>>180955418
Not an argument.
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>>180955478
Not an argument.
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>>180955424
i genuinely don't mind marble zone

only act 3 is too fucking long
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>>180955424
I don't really hate it.
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Knuckles Chaotix did NOTHING wrong.
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>>180955710
It's easily the worse act, but it's still ok. I think it would've been better if the order was
Green Hill - Spring Yard - Star Light - Marble - Labyrinth - Scrap Brain - Final Zone

>>180955794
I actually enjoy Marble, but I can see how it would be a disappointing follow up to Green Hill.
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>>180955965
but having it in that order would ruin the whole "chronology" theme the game has

the levels get more industrialized the deeper you are in the game
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>>180950559
>Just because it only feature Both Sonics, Fighting Old Enemies, and Revisiting SOME of the stages dosen't make it Generations 2.
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>>180956081
The actual order has Spring Yard - Labyrinth - Star Light, which feels off to me if you want more industrialized the deeper the game gets.

And my justification for Labyrinth before Scrap Brain was act 3 of Scrap Brain.
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>>180956547
They never said it wasn't "Generations 2", they just said it wasn't a sequel. Which it isn't, because the plot has already been confirmed to not have anything to do with Generations.
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>>180956569
the pre-release zone order is actually more accurate to the whole industrial thing

labyrinth zone was the SECOND zone, it could've been even worse

spring yard was second to last
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>>180956851
>Labyrinth SECOND
As if I needed another reason to hate that Zone.
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>>180956851
Holy fuck that would've put so many people off, I can at least bare with Marble Zone, it's not that bad just a bit slower.
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>>180956851
>>180956958
>>180957168
Doesn't the medley theme have the pre-released zone order?

It was like Green Hill, Labyrinth, Marble, Starlight, Scrap Brain, and Spring Yard.
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>>180957549
exactly

and if you put in the stage select code, the zones are still in that order on the screen

needless to say it's a good thing they changed it
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>>180957549
Spring Yard last? Christ. This is how Eggman can finally kill Sonic. Go back in time and keep the initial order of the Sonic 1 zones.
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>>180957549
>>180957740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9_MXpkDaVc
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Reading the content again, I'd like to see an actual Clock (w)Ork Zone for a new level, though they pretty much already did it with Rooftop Run (or was it Skyscraper Scamper?)
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>>180957549
>>180957610
also spring yard (clock work zone) apparently used the scrap brain tile set originally
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>>180958385
I thought Spring Yard was Sparkling and Scrap Brain was Clock Work?

Still quite interesting though.
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>>180958479
yeah i think both zones were radically different in the first place
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>>180960009
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>>180950543
>Is Shadow Fall any good

Yes.

>and is the trade paperback actually going to be released?

I wouldn't hold my breath.
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>>180959717
Primary target is Eggman. Do not deviate from the mission.
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>>180939717
Now in color.
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>>180960602
Alright, thanks for the reply mate

I'll just read it online I guess
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>>180955813
The only thing wrong was being on a system no one cared about.
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>>180960384
>Sonic will never squirt his hot chili all over your face.
Sad!
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>>180940645
That ain't thicc, that looks wrong.
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When do you think we're going to get more Mania/Forces news?
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>>180962293
Chao are dumb.
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>>180962387
I dunno. When do you think we're going to get any movie news?
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>>180962616
2019
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>>180954001
Shronic's Thanksgiving
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>>180954001
Archie Comics.
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>>180963253
>Meanwhile at Sonic, Amy was baking. Baking crack.
What am i reading?
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just remember no matter how shitty a sidekick you are, you will never be as pathetic as tails
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Anyone else think Forces is going to be disappointing?
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>>180964184
Nope, I think it looks like it could unironically be my favorite Sonic game.

It's everything I loved about past 3D games, as well as things like SatAM and the comics.

I know this general has a boner for Classic Sonic and can't understand why people are excited for Forces, but it wont stop me.
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>>180964184
It depends entirely on wether they have a good reason for Shadow to be on the bad guy side or not.
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>>180964184
For me it all depends on the story. I already know I'm going to have fun with the gameplay itself.
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>>180964184
>botched Classic Sonic when Mania exists
Yes. Literally the only real turn-off, but it's enough to hold me off of buying it full-price.
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amy don't look
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>>180964184
Gameplay wise, not really, because I know what I'm getting into here. The only new thing is Buddy, and he looks to be okay. Better than shit like the Werehog.

Storywise, absolutely. It's the part I'm the most interested in, and the prospect of villains coming back is neat, but at the same time I feel like it'll be halfassed and the friends will do jack all again
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>>180964578
>tawna and coco in the same pic
u wot
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>>180964509
Forces was in development 2 years before Mania. When Classic Sonic was put into the game, there wasn't an additional project for Sonic Team to compare to.
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>>180964615
DELET THIS
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>>180964615
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>>180964578
You know, Boom really does feel like it was meant to be a Crash show at one point. Or maybe that's because Crash is a Sonic ripoff.
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>>180964797
I'm aware of that. I still think it's inexcusable, since I'm also comparing it to Generations, the last attempt at Classic Sonic, and think it was better there as well. The only improvement I've seen is that the Spin Dash isn't OP. I would honestly rather Sonic Team give up on Classic and leave him to Taxman and else. Buddy is an improvement over how multiple playstyles have been handled before in 3D games, it's finally like Sonic's gameplay, only with Wispons instead of Boost, like in any 2D game.

For me, Forces is an odd case of one step foward but also one step back.
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>all these people saying the gameplay looks fun
Buddy mowing down waves of 5 enemies in a straight line over and over looks fun to you people?
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>>180964184
I mean, I'm already disappointed at the inclusion of Classic Sonic, but I'm still looking forward to Forces. Modern looks great, Buddy looks fun, although Classic looks to be the weakest of the three. I do hope that after Forces, Classic is left out of the 3D games.
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>>180964578
Crash Boom when?
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>>180965349
I'm assuming it gets better in later levels.
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>>180964184
Nah, I think it's looking great.
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I agree with the anon who says Classic Sonic in Forces is a bad idea that should have been changed. They should have taken this opportunity to have Shadow or Blaze playable again, seeing as Iizuka wants this to be like the Adventure games.

>Three characters
>Sonic (duh)
>OC (everyone gets their autism dreams come true)
>Wastes the third character on Sonic again rather than a fanservice character, even with Mania

But I still think Forces looks amazing, and that it could be one of the best Sonic games yet.
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>>180965349
If the wispons had some sort of ammo that gets refilled through gathering wisps like how Sonic's boost is, I would be fine with it.
Wispons are like the boost, however it doesn't increase speed but destroys enemies way too easily.
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>>180965349
>first level
>designed to help players get used to their gadgets
>also designed to make you feel "badass" saving a city from a literal army to start the game
No shit it's going to be like that. Wait until we see/play later levels
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>>180965694
>Buddy's boost meter is an ammo meter
Oh shit that would've been great.
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Forces should have starred Tails and Knuckles as playable characters instead. Not pandering-to-nostalgia Sonic and OC Donut Steel.
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>>180966110
Nah the OC creator is a good and fun idea.

Tails and Knuckles are already shilled in Mania, they should have taken this opportunity to have Blaze as the third character again for once.
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>>180964184
I don't have a strong bias for any of the factions but I think it's probably going to be probably mediocre to okay. I guess that'd be like 5-7/10.
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>>180963853
It gets better
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>>180965349
This. I'm not going to say it's DOA, but Buddy's gameplay doesn't seem to offer much except Wispon stuff, which looks broken. And Classic doesn't look to be improved over Generations.
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>>180966110
Making Tails and Knuckles playable is nostalgia pandering shit. It should just be Donut Steel and Modern Sanic.
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>>180964184
Anyone expecting Forces to be anything more than a 7/10 at best isn't thinking well
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>>180966110
Agreed.
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>>180960384
American Sonic will always be the best Sonic.
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>>180966352
>Making characters who have been with the franchise through it's whole life playable is nostalgia pandering.
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>>180967265
Be "support" for
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>>180966110
Eh, Tails & Knuckles are already in Mania, so I'm fine with them being NPCs. I'd rather the third character be someone like Amy or Blaze. You know, anyone who isn't already playable in another game.
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If anyone should be playable it's Shadow.
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>>180967416
If your only reason is 'because they should be there', then it's nostalgia shit.
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>>180967379
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>>180966110
I agree or like some others said, someone else. Could be Blaze and Silver or could be more characters at a time instead of three.
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>>180967503
You have an idea going, but the playable lineup should be:

Sonic the Hedgehog.
Blaze the Cat.
Feel the Rabbit.

The perfect teamup.
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>>180964615
>Well, it's got to be lunchtime somewhere, and I'm HUNGRY

Sonic confirmed to eat out?
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>>180967598
I mean why even put Sonic in there in that case.
>>180967589
I agree with this, his character might be edgy amnesiac bullshit but he had some of the best moments in the comic, and some pretty decent ones outside of Shadow.

Shame he's going to be evil for the sake of it now.
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>>180966110
How about we just have a few more games with Sonic only, maybe get a fully 3D Boost game with Sonic only first, then worry about making other characters relevant, much less playable
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The third character for Forces should've been all of the other friends. You can choose which one you want to play the game with, Tails, Knuckles, Blaze, etc.
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>>180967831
It's a 'Sonic game', but really Sonic doesn't even fucking have to be there. I want more solo games.
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>>180967953
Everyone would have just picked Shadow.
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>>180967379
>>180967641
Adorkable
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>>180968058
I wouldn't, fuck that rat
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>>180968039
But Chaotix didn't sell well and Shadow the Hedgehog received underwhelming reception. I guess the public just doesn't want a character-oriented spinoff.
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>>180967953
mods
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If we're talking about Sonic's crappy friends, all I want is a Sonic-Shadow-Blaze teamup. They would make for a good id/ego/superego trio.
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>>180943731
This is actually very pretty
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>>180968298
Chaotix was on a system no one cared about and Shadow the Hedgehog was an overall very poorly designed game.

Maybe it could be a success if they actually did it right.
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>>180968453
What do you mean?
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>>180968123
>fuck that rat
Gladly.
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>>180968298
Chaotix was on a crappy add on. Shadow was a prelude to something even worse. Tails Adventure was the only successful solo game.
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>>180968453
I just want more Blaze because she is the best character, surprising since she was also one of the newest characters added.
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>>180968453
>Sonic-Shadow-Blaze teamup
But Shadow has other, better allies to work with who are also his friends.
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Unpopular opinions time.
I enjoy the multiple playstyles in Sonic as long as they're good. I wouldn't mind a Rouge game that played like Arkham.
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>>180968453
The three would also make sense because they represent the modern era of the franchise. Shadow being the second most popular character behind Sonic and an equal to Sonic, and Blaze being the co-pioneer of boost.
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>>180968975
This is Rouge's best design.
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>>180968068
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>>180969183
Me too, and that sounds amazing

I'm not an Adventurefag, in fact unlike most fans I kind of hate those games. But I would love if they took another shot at a game with lots of characters and playstyles.

Arkham Rouge sounds like it would be perfect for that.
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>>180968298
To be fair, those games also sucked. They'd probably fair better if the games were actually good (& in Chaotix's case, on a system people have).

>>180969183
I would love a spin-off game with Amy, Rouge & Blaze. Given their personalities there's some great interaction potential between the three & they could have very fun playstyles.
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>>180969514
Thank you anon
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>>180969183
>>180969516
If Team Dark had their own game, what kind of gameplay would be the best for them?
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I want a legit Big the Cat spinoff game. No memes included. I think Big has the right attributes for his own game. He has a fishing rod and fishing tools and a round body with strength - I think it could work. I also would want Chaos Gamma to be a reluctant supporting character.
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>>180970237
>Amy VS. Chaos Gamma
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Don't mind me just posting best hedgie.
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>>180970812
Green Hill Chemical Plant Sky Sanctuary bois
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>>180969953
A Sly Cooper-like setup. Bigass hub worlds with mission markers for each character. Shadow is normal Sonic-esque gameplay, Rouge is Arkham, and Omega is a supercharged beatemup like DmC.
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>>180970812
Probably 2-3 at most. This is gonna be Gens 2 in everything but name, but I guess there's no point getting angry over it anymore.
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>>180970812
>Green Hill Zone will be in every new Sonic game until the end of time
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>>180971484
I remember when getting to go back to Green Hill Zone or even getting a reference or two to the level in a Modern Sonic game was a rarity
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>>180971484
>>180971698
I outright that Green Hill is now a mandate. Can anyone confirm this?
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>>180964184
I do, and I'm surprised so few people think the same. I wonder if they'll think the same once it releases.
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>>180971792
*I outright heard
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>>180970812
Jesus fuck, why? People are (rightfully) going to flip over this.
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>>180971698
Are we still pretending like Green Hill wasn't always in everything?

>Neo Green Hill
>SA2 secret level
>Green Hill in Sonic Battle
>Sunset Hill
All these games came out between 2001 and 2004. 4 Green Hills in just 3 years.
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>>180971792
>>180972069
Not for SA2. I think they built it to test out movement and then polished it as a little bonus.
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>>180969953
The three are so radically different that it'd be difficult to have a single, consistent playstyle that they could all fit in. The only major games all three together have been playable in are Heroes and '06, and those aren't exactly the pinnacles of good game design. How would the level progression be arranged? If you say "open-world", I will be very disappointed in you. Should they be playable in different sections of the same stage like '06? Completely separate stages like SA2?
Even within the individual playstyles, there hasn't been a consistent direction. Should Shadow be a straight Sonic clone like in SA2? Should he have Platinum-style spectacle platforming/running? Should he use (ugh) guns or vehicles again? And what about Rouge? Odds are most people would gravitate toward "stealth", but what kind? And would it be "get to the end" or "find the McGuffins"?
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What news do you think will be showed in the next few months and what do you hope it would be?
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>>180972627
Nothing out of Mania, that's out soon anyway.
Probably some new classic levels for Forces.
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>>180972627
Forces' PC version will be fully integrated with Steam Workshop. That's some news I would love to hear.
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>>180972627
Not dead comics...
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>>180967265
wipe the sweat off the forehead of
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>>180972627
Please let there be trades for Champions and Mega Drive, with the remainder of the latter included.
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I wanna pet Shadow's floofy chest.
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>>180972627
Arin Hanson is voicing Infinite in Sonic Forces and Whitehead lost his mind and added Sanic as the final boss in Mania
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>>180972772
Your wish has been granted! Paid mods
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>>180968453
Just give me pic related and I'll be content for years.
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>>180939439
I like these actually franchised themed OPs because people actually talk about specific topics for a while instead of just shitposting.
Requesting the next OP be Sonic CD themed because the game is on sale right now and everyone should play it.

>>180862909
Anyway, Continuing with he StC Poster issue dump, here' the story referenced in >>180837269 , which is in fact a Lew Stringer Sonic and Amy story.And again I have no idea what a "Poster issue" is supposed to be. Can any /co/ anons help out here?
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BIND YOU CONFINE YOU DEFYING YOUR REIGGGGGGGGNNNN

SONIC HEROEEEEEEEES SONIC HEROEEEEEEEEEEEES GIVE US A REASON AND WE'LL RUN AWAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>180973526
i think its a special summer edition where they have a few stories and the rest is made up of single or double page poster spreads.
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>>180973213
>Arin Hanson is voicing Infinite
It's all fun and games but sometimes I wonder the possibility of this and I get scared.
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>>180972418
>Heroes and '06, and those aren't exactly the pinnacles of good game design
Well I think Heroes is flawed in execution, not concept. It's mostly the controls and the level design that are problems, right? Couldn't we have a great game if those things were improved and maybe flight formation was made a little more useful/fun?
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>>180973818
>we'll run away
lel, go team Pussies
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>>180973213
>>180973954
I can see Arin Hanson being a voice option for the custom character.

I swear, that memeing faggot, Webber, better not add anything Grump to Forces' localization.
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>>180973818
>>180974071
I thought it was "Give us a reason and we're on our way"?
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>>180974071
>>180974215
oopsies, yeah it is that.

LOOK OUT DOWN BELOW
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>>180973526
For whatever reason, Fleetway seemed to treat Marble Garden as the "main" Zone of the floating island. Its green hill if you will. Maybe the charred remains of Angel island beachfront would have made for a poor print run?
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>>180973954
>>180974180

I honestly don't see why that would be such a bad thing. If Infinite is a character who hates Sonic due to some ham-handed philosophy and is eventually defeated by Sonic, Buddy and the rest of the Freedom Fighters, then it would be fine by me. There would be cheesy, yet inspirational dialogue about, or by Sonic, talking about who Sonic is and what he stands for: things that Infinite either cannot, or doesn't want to understand. This results in one final clash that reveals to him why Sonic's world is one worth protecting.
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>>180974215
thought it was "...and we'll find a way."
but whatever
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>>180974332
Holy fuck, I'm getting memories of some really bad AMVs that paired WWE wrestlers with Sonic Heroes teams and their themes. The mid-2000s were a shitty time.
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>>180974435
>Freedom Fighters
*Resistance
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>>180974419
>Sonic's a cool dude

with a huge inferiority complex
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>>180974419
Hyper Spring.
As in the special stage spring in Advance? Another item on the StC influence headcanon for the list.
Does this count as a reverse panty shot for Amy?
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>>180973213
>Arin Hanson is voicing Infinite in Sonic Forces
aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
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>>180974419
>"Hey sonic, want sum fuk?"

he's too cool to grab some young, pink puss
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>>180974435
>>180974626
>Freedom Fighters is the name used in Forces
>yet features none of the Freedom Fighters exclusive to SatAM/the Archie comics
>both Archiefags and anti-Archiefags are triggered because the name was used
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>>180974793
how convenient that the island just happened to be right there at that exact time.

Lil' Amy still a cute
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>>180974587
that's fucking hilarious and not at all shitty
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>>180974793
FDOINNG!

>"get off my leg you fat bitch"
Sonic a brutal guy
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>>180975162
I'm half-tempted to look them up again, but I doubt they're still up.
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>>180974793
The ordinary reader may well ask just who is Sonic talking to in the last panel.
But the truly alert will again question what a Pointdexter is doing in Marble Garden...again. I think the Fleetway reference sheet needed proofing.
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>>180939439
> not posting Team Dark Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ-bjZD1EnI
Much disapoint /sthg/
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David Humphrey was the best Shadow. His delivery was questionable at times, but his voice itself was the most suitable for how Shadow looks and acts (barring the silly OOC moments in Shadow the Hedgehog of course).
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>>180975516
Oh wait, this guy fell out of a Badnik. Wearing a T-shirt.
Since it's so prominent in this page, I have to ask, were Fleetway the only publication to use the upward spikes Amy style? I think I asked this before, but I don't think anyone posted shots of early Archie Amy yet.
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>>180976682
100% yes
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>>180976682
Reminder that Kirk Thornton could very easily be a great Shadow if the voice director wasn't retarded.
https://youtu.be/NsT_l0veROc
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>>180976975
I like him as Saix and I don't think he's a bad actor. I just think that he doesn't suit Shadow and that he sounds too old.
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>>180973998
Honestly, I'd go so far as to say that the entire concept of Heroes is fundamentally flawed.

If you assume "Speed" is the default gameplay, which you should because it's a Sonic game, then no matter what you do the gameplay will be such that Flight and Power are either so divergent that they get in the way, or not divergent enough which makes them redundant. Even with good control and level design, what's the point of playing as Tails or Knuckles aside from brief gimmick segments that only exist to justify their existence? What can they do that both compliments Sonic's gameplay and gives you a reason to actually play as them for extended periods of time instead of just switching back to Sonic? I actually prefer the Adventures method because you could at least theoretically ensure that each individual level is design to play to each character's playstyles.
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>>180976793
The art here is by Mike Hadley and Darren Stephens, but the publication has definitely settled into an "Elson" style. Not sure how fair that is.
Amy seems pretty undaunted in the face of danger in that second last panel.
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>>180976793
I think Fleetway was the only one, yeah. I remember hearing one time that Amy's upward hair was done in STC because one of the people working on it thought pic related was Amy's regular hairstyle
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Hey, hey, hey, everybody. I've finally finished production on a project that I hope you'll enjoy. It's a specialized version of the HedgePhysics engine, the engine that the Museum project and the recent Birthday Bash zone were built off of. This version has the Lost World model, some changed physics, some custom loop and half pipe models and a tutorial scene that I made just for you guys so you can start making your very own Sonic levels with relative ease.

I felt bad that I couldn't dedicate the time needed to make a fully-fledged level with you guys, so I figured that the next best thing would be to make a jumping-on point for anyone on /sthg/ to start making their own Sonic levels with their own physics, music, level design, level gimmicks, what have you.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9wQojS0lxpTkNyZTZCdWFkM2c/view?usp=sharing

I encourage everyone who has ever wanted to make a 3D Sonic level to give this a shot. With this system in place you don't have to know a single bit of programming in order to create your own levels. All you need to do is drag, drop, skew, rotate and sculpt your way to a brand new Sonic experience. I'm really looking forward to what you guys can come up with.

Have fun!
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>>180977502
Holy shit, that's awesome! Thx, GHPAnon
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>>180977428
It does help distinguish here visually from Sonic though. Got any Archie screenshots from the same period?
>>180977395
I... don't know how to take this entire fourth panel. I have no words.
My default assumption is that during all this, Knuckles was drunk.
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Got to the limbs, but checking references, it feels like Sega could never decide which bands on Gamma were yellow and which were white
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Honey the Cat is very cute.
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>>180978012
That's really fucking nice, anon. I'd say just stick to the original Adventure one, it saves the headache.
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>>180977850
Had to do some looking around, but the earliest of Archie Amy would be pic related
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>>180978424
I wish Gallagher had become the main writer instead of being replaced by Bollars and Penders.
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>>180978293
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>>180977672
No problem! I hope some of you give this thing a try. Making Sonic levels is a lot of fun and can even be therapeutic at times once you get into the groove of things.
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>>180978771
I'd love to give it a shot. Again, thanks mate!
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>>180978983
Awesome. Post some screenshots of what you come up with!
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>>180977502
God bless you beautiful man going above and beyond.
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>>180977502
Man, why do you have to be so cool?
Are you finally working for SEGA?
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>>180970812
Yup, I bet they got a shit budget.
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>>180974180
Barry showed up on a short stream once. I doubt they'd bother to bring him to SoA for just a cut short stream.
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>>180979170
Oh, no. I've only gone above. It's up to you to go beyond.

>>180979261
If I worked for SEGA you'd know. Trust me.

It's all up to you now, /sthg/. Go for it.
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>>180979506
Are we boned yet?
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>>180977502
Thank ya, GHPAnon!
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>>180978708
Waiting for your reappearance.
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>>180978708
Why do I always picture Honey as a dominatrix?
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>>180981013
Cats Always know how to defend themselves, even if they're cornered.
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>>180979506
Someone here will kill Mememan if he does the unthinkable, right?
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>>180981013
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>>180981253
I can't find that one where she has Tails in a collar and she's holding a thong.
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>>180981183
If no one has tried to kill Penders, then no one will try for mememan either.
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>>180977502
Heeeeeey, this was you, wasn't it? >>180905310 Sneaky fucker.
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I miss Enerjak.
Goddamn that was a cool design.

>>180982376
>no one has tried to kill Penders
Give it time. Someone in this fandom is autistic/crazy enough to do it.
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>>180982579
Yep! I wanted to make some Sage Tips as well, ones that were more cautionary rather than how to make things, but since there wasn't a Sage that was like the Bump I just tossed the idea.
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Knuckles the Echidna
Angel Island
Master Emerald
Mystic Ruins
Knuckles Clan
Nocturnus Clan
Gizoids
Ghosts
King Boom Boo

Tie all of these elements together and make an expansive Knuckles lore and stuff out of it.
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>>180983130
Fuck off Penders.
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>>180982757
They would've tried by now.
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>>180950559
>I’m sorry to say you can’t make a fat cat!

Well there goes my interest in the game.

>>180964184
I can't make my own character fat so it already is, meaning I won't be buying it anytime soon.
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>>180977502
That's neat, but if it can't even handle the original scope of the museum level then what's the point? Birthday Bash was cool and all, but you said that was the upper limit of what the engine could accomplish.

I mean I guess if the point is babby's first level design, sure I guess, but if I wanted to make a 3D game on the scale of After The Sequel it'd be impossible, right?
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>>180983172
I'm trying to see how one could expand Knuckles "lore" without being Penders, and actually adhering to the game canon and elements.
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>>180964184
It's trying to be everything to everyone, so I'm pretty sure it will be. At best it'll turn out like Disney's Hercules - a perfectly serviceable movie with some great elements, but overall it's just kinda there, and while it'll have its fans, it probably won't be as well remembered as its contemporaries.

>>180983565
An honorable endeavor, but good fucking luck, considering even Sega and Sonic Team themselves seem to have a loose grasp on the concept of lore or continuing story.
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Tails:
>Battlekukku Army
>Witchcart
Knuckles:
>Nocturnus Clan
>King Boom Boo, King of the Ghosts
Shadow:
>Professor Gerald Robotnik
>Black Doom and the Black Arms
Silver:
>Doctor Eggman Nega
>Iblis, the Flames of Disaster
Blaze:
>...Doctor Eggman Nega
>Captain Whisker...?
Amy:
>...
>...
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>>180983876
Amy:
>Zero
>Metal Sonic
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>>180983876
Amy
>Reality
>coming to terms
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>>180983352
Fuck off Rotor Faggot.
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>>180983876
Amy:
>The ability to tell two individuals of the same species apart
>Not getting kidnapped (although she hasn't been kidnapped in any recent games so there you go I guess)
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>>180984039
>Zero
But they're friends. Sortof.
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>SN: I like creating characters with wolves, but with straight eyes.

Sounds like we'll be able to change the OC's face in more ways than we've seen so far
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>>180984073
Why are you telling him to fuck off if he's just sharing his opinion over something? That's rude, man.

>>180953549
P-please, do not post this picture. It makes me funny.
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>>180984236
On one hand, I miss the Megaman comic. I actually subbed for a little bit there.
But whereas Sonic comics seemed to move too slowly with their giant overarching stories interspersed with little arcs in them, the Megaman stories felt like they were moving way too fast sometimes, especially when it started double-billing with Megaman X. Still though, I would like to have seen their take on Megaman and Bass and such.
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>>180983876
Zero & Metal would probably be her villains. Although she's already rekt Zero, so I guess Metal.
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>>180984462
These are all the options so far:

Gender
Eyes
Upper headgear
Middle headgear
Lower headgear
Gloves
Shoes
Accessories
Bodysuit
Skin color
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>>180983745
Well, some time ago, I have come up with something that ties those elements together, in the form of a single fan character meant to be "Dark Knuckles", Knuckles' answer to Shadow.

Basically, Professor Gerald used traces of DNA from the Nocturnus Clan, as well as """DNA""" from King Boom Boo, and through them both created an Echidna, which I decided to call "Knocturnus". The purpose of creating Knocturnus, was to have someone to watch over the ARK, as well as the replica of the Emerald Altar, and stuff like that. But, like, uh... the basic idea of Knocturnus' character is that he runs away from that responsibility, unlike Knuckles who fiercely embraces it. Knocturnus would be the side of Knuckles that deep down longs to leave the island and just travel the world freely like Sonic does.

But anyways, it's very easy (to some degree), to tie together the lore and continuity and canon of the Sonic universe, it's just that Iizuka has fun breaking it.
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has anyone here played the megaplay version of sonic 1

it's fucking intense, it actually enforces speedrunning
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>>180984702
>yfw they have a genderfluid option
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>>180984772
Ayy, Sparky!
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>>180984702
>Upper headgear
>Middle headgear
>Lower headgear
It's always nice in games when headgear options extend further than just "hat" or "glasses". Even better if you can mix and match. I'm ok with this.

Doesn't look like we'll have many actual clothing options, i.e. pants and shirts and such, unless I've missed something from the trailers. I guess that's in keeping with the style though. Not many Sonic characters without tits or are named Blaze have clothes.
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>>180984881
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>it's just that Iizuka has fun breaking it
Meh. I personally never really hated Iizuka as much as everyone else here. I don't really see how he breaks continuity when he's directed/produced/supervised/written nearly every main game since Sonic Adventure 2.
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>>180984823
>yfw they don't and the stupid nu-millenials attack the social media pages demanding it
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>>180985140
Geez, how long ago did I draw this? The coloring is horrible...

>>180985242
I mean with the stuff he says about multiple worlds and dimensions and stuff, and... stuff like that.
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Is Lost World the first time Amy directly said she loved Sonic, without being fangirlish?
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>>180983440
I'll be honest with you, Anon: I'm finding that a lot of the minor bugs that are present in version 0.7 of the engine are no longer present in this new version and the Museum concept is actually a lot more feasible after all. It probably seems like I'm just flip-flopping back and forth on this issue and for that I am sorry. I really am. I'm in a pretty flip-floppy stage in my life right now...

Now that I've seen what this new version of HedgePhysics can do, making something big like a large level, or even a series of levels is not such a crazy notion after all! The only problem is that, with my new job and the fact that I'm going to be moving a couple states away in a few weeks, I don't want to make any promises that I can't keep. I do want to get back to the Museum project someday, but that day will not be soon.

In short: The point of me releasing this tailor-made development kit was to make an easy way for non-dev /sthg/ folks to get their hands dirty and to try their hand at making some basic levels. I figure if and when I do come back to go for that big Museum project, I'll be able to actually work with you guys on a more direct level rather than it being a
>Give me assets and I'll do the rest
level. Does that make sense? I hope it does. I'm just ranting at this point.
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>>180985242
Most people Occam's Razor the continuity of Sonic
Then Iizuka says randomly in interviews "no, it's actually more complicated than we presented"
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>>180985374
Well almost did since she was cut off.
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>>180985374
She didn't say it. She died before she could.
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>>180985556
>she died
And her and Knuckles' ghosts are in Forces haunting Sonic?
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>>180985556
I know, I meant to say almost since she was cut off.
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>>180985707
No, she was revived later on in Lost World.

Literally EVERYONE on Sonic's World died in Lost World.
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>>180985818
Did Lah come back to life?
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>>180985427
No worries anon, you've done great work so far. Hope things continue to go well for you.

Now to follow up on my end of some endeavors.
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>>180985427
...So, in other words you just made up a big fat lie instead of just admitting you didn't want to work on it? That's pretty shitty I gotta say.

It's hard to really get mad at you though.
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>>180985906
No, I don't think so.
If anything, that Energy Extractor "extracted" her "ghost energy", and thus she probably ceased to exist for a while.
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>>180985948
I don't take well to LIARS in this General. Absolutely not. GHPAnon is a pariah to me now.
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>>180985948
It wasn't so much a lie as it was a conclusion that I jumped to far too quickly in regards to the engine's capabilities and I passed that misinformation onto you. For this I genuinely and deeply apologize. Sincerely.
I do want to work on it, but that's entirely the problem. I know how I get when it comes to projects like this especially when they're Sonic-related. It swallows up everything else and all I ever want to do is work for endless hours. I can't afford to do that right now.

>>180985935
I'm excited to see what you have in store.
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What would a Crash Bandicoot/Sonic cross over comic be like?

pls no Freedom Fighters
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>>180985427
>I'm going to be moving a couple states away in a few weeks
Despite everything else, good luck with that, man. I moved to a different neighborhood last week and it was a fucking mess.
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>>180985948
I can't blame him.
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>>180986162
Not really. The Extractor absorbs the planet's energy, resulting in things like reduced air and other bad stuff. Since ghosts aren't affected, Lah probably still existed during the Daedly Six's overuse of the Extractor. And this is ignoring the two worlds thing.
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>>180987080
affected by the state of the planet, since they aren't living*
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>>180987080
The Planet's energy would include "Life Energy". I think.
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>>180984702
No hair option is gonna be a drawback for the OC crowd.
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Lah is from Earth though, not Sonic's World.
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>>180987381
Yes, but the poster is ignoring/denying that.
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http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Life_Energy
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>>180977502
Sketch (the guy who drew that Bump and the museum's level design) here. This is EXACTLY what I wanted.
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>>180985948
>made up a big fat lie
Entitled faggot of the thread, everybody.
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>>180986874
Thank you. That means a lot. I hope you guys aren't mad at me, or anything. I suppose the point I've always been trying to make here is that making Sonic fangames has been some of the most fun I've ever had and it's taught me a lot about game design in general. Then, there's this whole general full of Sonic fans who all have different visions and ideas.

When I look at this general, beneath all the shitposting and memery I see a goldmine of creative opportunity. I really do. If I can't collaborate with /sthg/ to make a big level due to my own lack of leadership, or what have you, I at least want to do what I can to encourage as many folks as I can to try to make their own stuff. That's what this little dev kit is meant to be.

Or, alternatively, you could always use this new tool to make a whole new of shitposting: playable shitposting.

Just a thought.

>>180987637
No way! I didn't know you made that Bump as well. What a coinkidink.
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Is this a Sonic?
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>>180987992
Yes.
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I love Amy, in a completely autistic way.
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>>180987992
Mobian? Nah.
Mascot? Nah.
Mongoloid? Yup.
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>>180988090
Too cute 4 school
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>>180987637
Oh fuck, I also didn't know it was you who made that Bump. That's one of my favorite Bumps, man.
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WE ALL DANCED IN FIRE
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>>180987992
Bubsy and Shaq-Fu are getting new games.
This is what happens when memes stop being dreams.
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>>180983130
>>180983565
I think I'd establish three things:
1) The Nocturnus got their tech advantage by discovering a cache of ancient Babylonian tech. In addition to providing an explanation for how they could be so technologically advanced when the Knuckles Clan was a bunch of 15th century Mesoamericans, this ties in the Babylon Rogues as treasure-hunting rivals, since Knuckles and them would be fighting over whether a particular set of ruins is actually echidna or Babylonian when they're both.
2) Establish that there are isolated echidna tribes around the world that have tried their best to stay hidden. In addition to bringing in Alucion and her tribe because why not, this gives a reason for Knuckles to get off his island other than "just because" as now he has ancient echidna tribes to go hunt for. You could make some Knuckles games with stories inspired by "Road to El Dorado" or "Atlantic: The Lost Empire"
3) Establish that the Knuckles Clan was a bunch of colossal dicks and that's why the Nocturnus was so eager to fuck them over, because the idea where every echidna hates Knuckles because of his Clan is funny to be for some reason (he eventually wins them over).

I don't think I'd tie in ghosts to echidna lore, they just exist and Knuckles used to be afraid of them before overcoming his fears. Maybe he's more fearful of the supernatural to highlight the naturalistic tribal aspect? But supernatural elements can be brought up in more ways than just ghosts.
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>>180988368
TRAPPED IN THIS MACHINE
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>>180988368
TRAPPED IN THIS MACHINE
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>>180987937
>>180988346
I should really sign my things more.
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>>180988090
I love Amy with all my heart and soul!!
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>>180987992
What do you think Sonic would do if he met Bubsy?
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>>180987937
I appreciate that, anon. I can't wait to make a stage. As soon as I stop being lazy

>>180988090
2 cute
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>>180988632
When's Sage?
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>>180988869
I'm looking forward to it. I'm sure it'll be great.
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>>180985270
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DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE'VE WAITED
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>>180988949
After I edit out the massive claws.
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>>180988989
AS THE EGGMAN WATCHES
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>>180988989
AS THE EGGMAN'S WATCHING.
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>>180988716
probably smile and give him a thumbs up because Sonic's a polite boy who was raised well
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>>180988716
Rape him repeatedly.
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>>180988716
Bubsy is the hothead. He tries to impress Sonic with his moves and gliding ability, but non-sense and accidents happen with every foot Bubsy takes.

Sonic, watching while keeping up Bubsy, merely shaking his head, Sonic knows what kind of person this is, and knows that it would take a lot of time to improve Bubsy's attitude and clumsyness against very small inconveniences.

Later, Bubsy gets into some real trouble, and realizes his tactics most likely won't work in his situation.
It's up to Sonic to get Bubsy out of trouble. After that, Bubsy is SLIGHTLY...only Slightly humbled and learns he needs to improve.
Still, he's a tad clumsy and punny, but he does seem better than he was before.
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>>180988716
Smile and wave but feel very uncomfortable at the same time
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>>180989061
But those are the second coolest bits
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When you close your eyes and feel the burn, what exactly do you see what you gotta do?
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>>180977502
I tried to join the Discord posted in the test level but it doesn't seem to work...
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>>180989435
go to the eyewash station and flush my eyes and call poison control
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>>180989754
Really? The link is busted? That's odd. It worked for me when I found it on the Sonic Retro site. https://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=36171
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What is the single BEST level in all of Sonic? Final Rush? Rooftop Run? Grand Metropolis?
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>>180990089
Green Hill Zone
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>>180989951
Aah, I see. the "R" and "S" is uppercase, you can't tell with the font used
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>>180990356
I didn't even think of that. Shit. Good catch.
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IT'S
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>>180990978
HIP TO FUCK BEES
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>>180988716
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>>180990089
2D: it's really hard to pick. I want to say Starlight Zone just because of the level design alone and Hydrocity because of the theme, speed, and music

Adventure: Metal Harbor

Boost: Rooftop Run

if I had to pick between all three I'll probably say Metal Harbor. Getting an A rank is so incredibly satisfying
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>>180991181
Rude!
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>>180990978
HIP
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>>180988716
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>>180992560
Rouge looks really good in that.
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>>180993002
Please no. Keep it classy, please?
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>>180981585
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>>180995856
thanks
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This is HIGH QUALITY.
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>>180964184
I genuinely don't think I've ever thought a sonic game looked this entirely, impressively unappealing before. If it's somehow lower than my rock-bottom expectations I'll be amazed, but as it is I can't see myself getting any enjoyment out of it.
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sonic adventures is worst then sonic 06 prove me wrong sonicfags
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>>180997698
that's true but only because it led to sonic 06 in the first place
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>>180941565
SWISS ROLL
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>>180997698
delusional
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>>180996650
What are people's opinion on Gamma and Omega. Who do you prefer?
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>>180998887
Omega in Heroes/Comics > Gamma > Omega in everything else
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>>180998887
I liked Gamma's self-contained story, but Omega works better as part of an ensemble with multiple appearances.
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>>180997698
Sonic Adventure was revolutionary when it came out. Sonic 06 was inexcusable.
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>>180999316
>Sonic Adventure was revolutionary when it came out
In what way?
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>>180999389
it set a new low for 3d platforming
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>>180999389
Not him, but you're a retarded idiot if you don't see how it was. It came out only 2 years after Mario 64. It must have looked god damn amazing when it first came out.
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>>180952297
Coconuts is already done with Robotnik's shit, he works for Breezie now, and for the better
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>>180997698
Sonic doesn't kiss anyone in Adventure.
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>>180999636
Don't worry about him, Anon. Some people just can't put themselves in the shoes of someone from a different era. These are the sorts of people that hold onto the phrase "aged badly" and think that that's some kind of enlightened argument.

Video games are never and were never meant to be timeless. They are created so that they can make money while also giving the player something to enjoy. No game developer has the foresight to predict what will be the norm for players 10 years in the future. What mechanics and control schemes will stand the test of time.

If a video game just happens to age well and just so happens to fit current standards of what is a "good" game then I assure you it is entirely by accident.

If Sonic Adventure was considered to be good game in 1998 then it is a good game regardless of how it is received now.
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>>181000558
>If Sonic Adventure was considered to be good game in 1998 then it is a good game regardless of how it is received now.

adventurecucks everybody

actually good games hold up to any years standards
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>>181000558
I don't even like adventure but that's a fucking good argument.
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>>181000558
If anything your argument convinced me that 'ages badly' actually holds water.
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>>181000558
>Adventurecucks are genuinely this delusional
Just admit that it's a piece of shit but that you still like it, Anon. I promise nobody here is going to judge you.
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>>181000558
Personally, I think it depends. Resident Evil was and is considered a good game, but the controls are a bitch.
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>>181000558
I like Adventure, and your argument is flawed as hell. Technology may change and improve, but actual game design is timeless. A badly designed level is always going to be a badly designed level, same with well designed ones. It doesn't take future-sight to know if the controls for the game you're making in the present are slippery, imprecise, tight, sluggish, finnicky, or any other descriptor. The good parts of Adventure were good when it was released, and they are good now. Same with the bad parts. Being distracted from the bad parts because you were wowed by the novelty of the new tech being displayed doesn't mean those bad parts were magically good at the time.
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>>181001247
But it wasn't a piece of shit in the late 90s. It was only a piece of shit in the early 2000s, since platformers had made much more advancements by then. If a game was "never good", then it wouldn't have received high critical reviews.
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>>181001541
Reminder that Bioshock Infinite received mostly raving reviews from the press.
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>>181001265
>but the controls are a bitch.
Literally how bad do you have to be at resident evil to find the controls are problem? I've never understood why everyone complains about them, I picked up the original trilogy not too long ago and beat the first two games in two to three sittings with little difficulty, the control worked fine for the kind of game they where going for and the games aged well. I never had problems with aiming, movement or shooting, especially with resident evil 3 and its improvements to the engine allowing significantly easier dodging and making things like a pistol only run actually doable.
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>>181001686
I never played BioShock Infinite; what about it hasn't held up?
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>>181000974
>>181001135
>>181001247
>>181001265
>>181001491

I suppose the point I'm trying to make here is, yes. Games can age badly. As technology improves, mechanics change and our collective tastes change then games from 10 years ago may not seem all that great. What I'm trying to get at is people who claim that a game has "aged badly" should never be a reason to take marks off of its score.

Again, do you really think that game developers are looking ahead years in the future and actively trying to make something that will stand the test of time? Of course not! They have a demographic of the present to worry about. They are the people who they are marketing towards. Games can age badly and they often do, but that's not a bad thing. It's a natural thing that shows how much we've come and how much games have changed. If a game has "aged badly," then that means that it was good at some point in the past and has since gone sour as gaming tastes have changed. That's not the game's fault. It's just how progress works. Thus, "aged badly" is not a good argument when talking about a game's quality. It's just something that happens.
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>>181001982
I agree completely with this, but Resident Evil's control still sucks, and I refuse to believe that it was ever considered good.
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>>181001982
>our collective tastes change
kys faggot

a game ages badly because it relies on something like graphics, or physics gimmicks to show off new technology instead of being a good game.

>look how big our levels are
>look how fast you can go
>oooh fancy cinematic camera angles
>goraud shading guys!

that's sonic adventure. no substance, just a dreamcast tech demo
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>>181002150
To be fair, most modern games can be described like that.
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>>181001265
No they aren't. Get good faggot. Even after RE4's godly controls I can still go back and have a blast with the older ones.
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>>181002267
keep dreaming adventure apologist
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>>181001265
the controls are supposed to be a bitch so you don't just own everything with reflexes
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>>181002456
I never grew up with the Adventure games, and I have no nostalgic connection to them. I'm just saying that most games these can fall into the pitfall of being "tech demos", just like some parts of Adventure were.
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>>181001784
All the "choices" have no actual impact on the game, the entire story is fucking retarded, having a limit on the weapons you can carry at once makes upgrading most of them pointless, the puzzles are braindead easy, the waifu is just a walking health dispenser, the bird thing they hyped up has little actual relevance, the shooting feels bad, the list goes on and on.

>>181001982
And I'm (>>181001491) saying games don't "age". A game that's good then is good now, and a game that's bad then is bad now. Things like level design and mechanics design rely on principles that don't depend on the current level of tech. Classic games have stood the test of time because their designers were intelligent enough to figure out what worked well.

>then that means that it was good at some point in the past and has since gone sour as gaming tastes have changed
No it doesn't. When all you have to eat is shit, and you think it's good because you don't know any better, doesn't mean it isn't actually awful. The quality of a game isn't a completely subjective concept.
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>>181002150
>look how big our levels are
>look how fast you can go
>oooh fancy cinematic camera angles
>goraud shading guys

...are we still discussing the Adventure series, or have we moved on to the modern games?
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>>180981013
>Why do I always picture Honey as a dominatrix?
You're not the only one who pictures that fellow anon,
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>>181002760
To be fair, I can kinda see what that anon means. There's been video games I've been wowed by when it first came out, only for me to not be anywhere close to impressed with them years later. The Adventure games definitely had things that were shit in 1998 or 2001, but I can't blame that anon for being of the opinion that a game can at times age.
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>>181004725
Meant to add: for being of the opinion that a game can age, but that doesn't entirely mean it was shit even back then.
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>>180970812
>we're most likely going to get Chemical Plant again, despite it being in Mania too
>yfw it won't even be the same music and just the weird synth stuff we've heard so far
The hell is this game going to be like?
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Honest question: who the fuck cares about Forces at this point?

Shouldn't we focus on making Mania sell 500 billion copies and also rile up all the modern sonic fags, gas all of them to ensure this putrid modern shit can finally die and we can finally send a clear message to SEGA that we only want classic 2D sonic games forever from now on?

Fuck coexisting, let's just get rid of this lump of cancer that enabled SEGA to pump out some of the shittiest games ever made and tarnished Sonic's reputation to the fucking ground.
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>>181006192
>tarnished Sonic's reputation to the fucking ground.
Yeah, fuck Heroes.
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>>181005865
It's gonna be SEGA trying to appeal to multiple fanbases at once. Modern fans with the Boost, Adventure fans with the more serious story, fans who like to make their own OCs with Buddy, & Classic fans with Classic Sonic. If Chemical Plant is remixed for whoever you play the level as like in Gens, then I'll forgive its inclusion. I am fucking sick of SEGA revisiting the same classic stages over & over, tho.
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>>181006192
>fuck not being cancer, IM GOING TO BE AS CANCEROUS AS POSSIBLE
If I didn't love Sonic so much I'd drop my Mania pre-order just to trigger your stupid ass.
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>>181006237
Yes, fuck heroes.

What, you expected me to go back on my opinions because you named heroes?
They're all shit compared to the original 2D games.
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>>181006305
The only cancer here is modern sonic enabling fags.

They've been a cancer on this fanbase for years, they keep giving SEGA money for shitty ass products.
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>>181006313
No, I was just trying to rile up the Heroesfag. I'm not a Classicfag like you are, but I do agree that games like Heroes, Shadow, and 06 are utter cancer.
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guys come on. We're the late night off-hours regulars. We're supposed to be slow and chill. Smart and sharp. Why the hell are you falling for this bait
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What is with the influx of low quality shitposters tonight? The majority of us are too busy sleeping to give you faggots (You)'s, go shit up another general.
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>>181006517
>>181006560
I'll stop when you cancel your preorder of Forces and buy 5 more copies of Mania.
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>>181006605
Jokes on you, I don't pre-order games at all. Now go away.
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>>181006605
just buy 500 copies yourself. everyone's happy and we can sip some coco
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>>181006192
Forces represents everything that killed Sonic to begin with
>OC Cancer
>Press X to win bullshit
>A million side characters
>A donutsteel villain who isn't Eggman
>Edgy shit story
>Modern Sonic
>Music with vocals and weird electronica
>3D
>Voice acting
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i made someone really mad by laughing at shadow the hedgehog once

there's people like this out there
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>>181006192
>who the fuck cares about Forces at this point?
>there are people here not excited about every major sonic game because they're so pessimistic and like to judge a game before its released
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>>181006743
*made sonic great to begin with

forces will make sonic great again
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>>181006743
Literally all those things are why I am buying the game

Fuck off grandpa, your opinion isnt the right one
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>>181006808
Which Shadow? The game or the character?

>>181006848
Anon, stop. Ignore that shitposter & go to sleep.
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>>181006898
>Which Shadow? The game or the character?
both
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>>181006192
>who the fuck cares about Forces at this point?
A lot of people. Clearly you aren't one of them but don't act like they don't even exist and then say they all need to die in the same post.
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sshh Sonic is sleeping
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>>181007376
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>>181007376
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>>181006743
>Forces represents everything that killed Sonic to begin with

the only thing that killed Sonic was Sega.
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Zzzzz....
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>>181007376
Wake up you lazy rat
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zzzz......
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>ywn cuddle under a big bushy fox tail
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>>181008386
>You will never fall asleep on top of a warm pile of sonic characters ;_;7
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>>181006743
I see nothing wrong with this list.
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>>181008685
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>>181008919
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Wakey wakey /sthg/.
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>>181009989
Nigga it's 3am, I'm clocking out. Post StC or whatever it is you Britfags do.
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Is Sonic dumb?
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>>181011525
Yes he's a dumb useless rat.
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>>181011742
Sonic may be dumb but he's nowhere near as dumb as Shadow. Nice eyeliner, dork.
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>>181011792
Rude!
I'm way smarter than Sonic!
And my eyeliner helps me express how i feel inside.
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Zzzz....
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>>181009989
It's only 2am and I haven't even started drinking yet.
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>>181013412
*turns on the fucking washing machine*
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>>181014763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yw5jkAHgME
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>>181013412
If you think it's smart to climb in a dryer, you're REALLY all wet!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xv5eUf01Vc
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>>180984558
I really hope you can change your bodytype in this game or will lose most of my interest in the OC maker.

>>180984823
>yfw they do have a genderfluid option and people here are bitching and complaining about it.
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>>181018545

>>180950559
>>180983352
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Good morning /sthg/!
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>>181019558
There's nothing good about wednesday mornings.
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>>181019745
I'm sorry you don't feel that way anon,
I don't usually like Wednesday's or its mornings either, but I hope your day and others would be good or at least decent with minimal problems.
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>>181019984
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>>181019860
Waking up early, multiple trucks, dumbass people out the wazoo and some important equipment is busted.
It's doomed from the start.
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>>181020089
Stay well and take care of yourselves, alright?

>>181020212
Aw, sounds terrible. Hopefully some of those problems can get resolved soon, anon.
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Will overdrive ever be released
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>>181021743
Only when the interlopers are dead. Do what you know you must.
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>>181021743
No
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Do the Sonic games alternate between Earth and Mobius or just take place on Earth?
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>>180992560

>No Wave
>But let's use Charmy!

REEEEEEE
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>>181022962
It's a totally different planet that just happens to be very similar to Earth and has cartoon hedgehorgs and shit.
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I need two list of objects and concepts of Sonic and/or the series that are recognizable. 1 for even normies to understand, then another one that veteran Sonic fans notice; basically obvious and not so obvious.
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>>181023063
Wave is shit.
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>>181022962
In the far far future the earth got renamed and people forgot it was called earth.
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>>180998887
Omega has more personality. Gamma isa one-shot cyber-moe.
>>181000558 >>181000974 >>181001091 >>181001135 >>181001247 >>181001265 >>181001491
Sonic Adventure IS a good game. The revisionism in the last few years is insane to me. Outside Utopia, Adventure 1 is still the game that gives Sonic the most freedom of movement, most responsive 3D controls, sticks to the series core concepts, and has to date still the best plot in the series. Outside of Big's fishing game and the entire hub concept, the game is remarkably solid to this day. And in terms of core Sonic gameplay is superior to the rest of the Adventure sequels.

Do not fall for the "Adventure was bad" meme. Adventure was good.
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How big of a fag would I be if I got a Piko Piko Hammer tattoo?
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>>181025578
That'd be a very bold move, anon. Where would you put it and how detailed/which version?
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>>181025726
Very small on the shoulder. Either classic or adventure.
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>>181026075
Just make sure that you're sure with it, anon. Especially with the decision between Classic or Adventure.

I think I'd lean towards the Classic one in this case.
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>>180998887
Omega is cool and funny. Gamma is... there.
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>>181027664
Referencing the comics when describing Omega as funny doesn't really count.
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>>181027901
I don't know why you think so but I don't really care either. The characterization in the comics is a million times better than in most of the games and that's all that matters to me.
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>>181028231
>The characterization in the comics is a million times better than in most of the games
>He still believes that being written out of character is good characterization.
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>>181028714
If the base character is garbage then writing them out of character can be good, yes. Especially when "out of character" is just taking their existing canonical traits and personalities and exaggerating some areas for comedic effect.
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>>181028806
>Especially when "out of character" is just taking their existing canonical traits and personalities and exaggerating some areas for comedic effect.
That''s not good written on a lot of fields. It's flanderization.
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>>181028231
Not that anon but good for you?
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>>181028714
What character did they write these one-note cardboard cutouts out of?
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>>181028714
Yeah. It's an improvement. Even if what they're saying doesn't match up with what their game counterparts would say, the dialogue is still better.

This is the better Shadow. He's still reserved and sometimes anti-social, but ultimately he cares deeply about and likes his friends.

None of that "hatred and contempt for the humans" or stealing candy from babies bullshit from Shadow the Hedgehog. If anything that should be considered out of character.
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>>181028936
>"hey guys look, I went to TV Tropes for the first time!"
"Flanderization" removes nuance from a character and plays up the "Flanderized" traits to ridiculous levels. It's also not necessarily bad if used to enhance the personalities of relatively minor background characters, like Omega.
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>>181028231
Mostly I think that because the comics have no influence on the way characters are portrayed in the games. Plus, the comic is cancelled.
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>>181029839
If you're going to complain about Flanderization, pretty much every character has been Flanderized in the games since Pontaff took over. Ignoring that in favor of better writing is not bad, whether it's technically out of character or not.
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>>181029369
>Yeah. It's an improvement. Even if what they're saying doesn't match up with what their game counterparts would say, the dialogue is still better.
But that still makes it still out of character.

>This is the better Shadow. He's still reserved and sometimes anti-social, but ultimately he cares deeply about and likes his friends.
>None of that "hatred and contempt for the humans" or stealing candy from babies bullshit from Shadow the Hedgehog. If anything that should be considered out of character.
Shadow the Hedgehog was the only instance where Shadow was out of character, he's been consistent since then. Taking that one game as a jab at Shadow's overall character shouldn't be the case with him. You don't have to "fix" a character by doing that.
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>>181030127
see >>181030104
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>>181030104
The characters have been flanderized since Heroes, what are you talking about?
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>>180967831
>his character might be edgy amnesiac bullshit
That has been over for like 10 years, he himself dropped that since his own game
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>>181030104
And that puts Pontaff on a similar boat as Archie. Except Pontaff are hacks while Archie is trying to "fix" the characters. In the end the characters still get flanderized.
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>>181030384
>"blah blah tvtropes buzzwords blah blah"
At least use the terms right. Flanderization means removing nuance from a character. You can't remove nuance from a character that didn't have any to begin with (Omega) and most of the comics writing has been adding nuance and depth to the relatively one-dimensional game personalities.
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>>181029369
>He's still reserved and sometimes anti-social, but ultimately he cares deeply about and likes his friends.
You know, just because Shadow in the game universe doesn't say it, doesn't mean he doesn't care about his friends.

Its clear he does care about Rouge and Omega, and they in turn care about him, he's just a serious guy.
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>>181025474
>up 'n down 'n all around
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>>181030476
Tell me about this "depth" that was added that's not references to stuff we already know in the games and meme dialog.
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>>181030660
Even though it was a bad game, Shadow was shown to care about them in 06.
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Are people actually repeating their stance or do I need to take a nap?
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>>181028714
It isn't "out of character," because these are different instances of the character. "Out of character" only applies when a character is written inconsistently with its previous behavior in the same setting/universe/canon. The Archie characters aren't written out of character, just like the Boom characters aren't written out of character.
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>>181030987
>just like the Boom characters aren't written out of character.
>Implying it doesn't also apply to Boom.

It might as well not have been a Sonic show.
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>>181030868
Sonic Battle had a part where Shadow has a dream of many parts of the series before that game, Shadow remember when Rouge had him and Omega join up to be a team.

He chuckles to himself and calls Rouge his ally after finding out she saved him. It doesn't seem like much, but in Shadow's own way that's pretty much hammering in that they're tight.

Also while non-canon due to the Ken Penders stuff and not being a good game, he actively was looking for Omega when he went missing in Sonic Chronicles.
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>>181031153
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>>181031484
Shadow does seem to actively avoid Sonic unless he has to interact with him tbqh.
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>>181031484
This game really changed my perspective on Shadow and Omega's relationship. I can't stop seeing them as best bros after this.
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>>181031120
Sonic's rich history allows him to be interpreted in a multitude of ways. To be sure, this is a lighter incarnation, but it's certainly no less valid and true to the character's roots than the tortured avenger crying out for mommy and daddy.
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>>180998887
I love both to death, but Omega has more staying value. Gamma wouldn't be as good if he didn't have his short, self contained murder-suicide story.
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>arguing with bait posters
C'mon now, you're better than this.
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>>181031808
>Everyone having a discussion on character portrayals,
>"Lol, bait!"

Fuck off. You faggots always come out when we debate on anything.
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>>181030987
Agreed with this
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>>181031674
well, they are kind of related, albeit in a really abstract way
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https://twitter.com/indigorush101/status/879730677180243969

FUCK 4KIDS
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Upskirt
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>>181033283
i don't get it?
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Mornin' all. Anyone tried out the dev kit yet? I'll be here throughout the day if you have questions.
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>>181032926
Is this right?
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>>181034142
I opened it in Unity and nothing showed up in the viewport. I'm guessing I really do need to learn everything from scratch, huh?
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>>181034220
yes
shadow would be omega's kind-of granduncle
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>>181006192
Honest question: who the fuck cares about Mania at this point?

Shouldn't we focus on making Forces sell 500 billion copies and also rile up all the classic sonic fags, gas all of them to ensure this putrid classic shit can finally die and we can finally send a clear message to SEGA that we only want modern 3D sonic games forever from now on?

Fuck coexisting, let's just get rid of this lump of cancer that enabled SEGA to pump out some of the shittiest games ever made and tarnished Sonic's reputation to the fucking ground
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Would Tom hardy be a better Knuckles or Eggman for a boom sonic movie?
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>>181034372
You need to open up the scene called Test Stage. That has everything you need to get started.
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>>181034527
Honest question: who the fuck cares about Sonic at this point?

Shouldn't we focus on making both sell horribly and also rile up all the sonic fags, gas all of them to ensure this putrid shit can finally die and we can finally send a clear message to SEGA that we only want actually good games forever from now on?

Fuck coexisting, let's just get rid of this lump of cancer that enabled SEGA to pump out some of the shittiest games ever made and tarnished their reputation to the fucking ground
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>>181034997
Honest question: who the fuck cares about video games at this point?

Shouldn't we focus on making every game sell horribly and also rile up all the vidya fags, gas all of them to ensure this putrid shit can finally die and we can finally send a clear message to corporations that we don't want anything from now on?

Fuck coexisting, let's just get rid of this lump of cancer that enabled corporations to pump out some of the shittiest business practices ever made and tarnished their reputation to the fucking ground.
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>>181022962
Iizuka thinks there is a classic world, modern world, and human world (plus more maybe).

http://www.tssznews.com/2017/06/11/iizuka-we-probably-think-youll-see-chaos-again-soon-sonics-world-human-world-is-separate/
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>>181022962
>Mobius
There is no "Mobius".
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>>181034618
Oh! Everything works now, but the whole scene is pitch black sans the ball of light already put in the scene.

Should I just join the Discord server so I don't have to keep asking here?
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>>181035678
You could do that, yes. Up to you, really. It could very well be that you just need to let the scene do a quick lighting build and that's why everything is black. Feel free to post a screenshot so I can be sure that's what this issue is, but I'm pretty sure that's what's up.
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>>181034142
I gave it a poke; pretty interesting stuff but it's a little beyond me. Good work, nontheless, and thanks for providing the kit for others to enjoy.

>>181034220
Ever noticed how Shadow and Omega have vaguely similar colour schemes? Red and black, gold wrist cuffs, and so forth? I'm wondering if the colour design wasn't vaguely intentional on Sega's part.
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>>181036080
Thanks for at least giving it a try, Anon.
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Does Omega claw at things like an animal for his melee attacks?
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>>181035867
I sent you a message on Discord so we don't muck up the general too much.
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>>181034581
Eggman. Hardy would have fun with the role.

I don't know who'd make a good Knuckles. I stopped watching TV and films around 5 years ago, but you'd need a younger actor I guess. God what am I writing?
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I didn't know that Vic Mignogna voices and is currently voicing Omega
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>>181036080
Shadow, Omega, and Eggman all have the same color scheme.
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>>181036494
I imagine he would just punch things with his giant metal pointy fists.
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>>181037317
I wish it was still Jon St. John. Omega was funnier when his voice was less robotic and monotone and I like the filter in Heroes more.
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>>181036231
do you still wanna do that fangame btw?
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>>181030987
There's no such thing as "out of character". The writer decides what's in character since its their character
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>>181037625
Anon, what's the difference between Jon St. John's and Jeff Kramer's per chance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtN4lhWl1Bk
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If Maria survived do you think she would've continued to be good or would've eventually been corrupted by her robotnik genes?

I'd like to imagine she'd end up an inventor for GUN or something.
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>>181038534
Someday, yes. I do want to. For now, though, I want to encourage everyone with the interest to give this dev kit a shot just to get a taste of what making a Sonic level is like first-hand.
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>>181038824
>There's no such thing as shitty writing, because that's how the writer wanted it to be.
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>>181038870
The filter seems to be the same, or at least it's close enough if it isn't. But the delivery is still different and sounds more robotic.
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>>181038914
If she's anything like her relatives, then if she suffered a severely traumatic experience or whatever, she's in danger of snapping and losing herself to dangerous insanity and uncontrollable destructive thoughts.

The Robotnik curse... superhuman physiology and extraordinary super intelligence, at the price of sanity and goodness.

But Maria might be the exception, the one who stays pure.
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>>181039060
Shitty writing does exist, because bad writers exist. So do bad characters. But characters are whatever the people who made them wants them to be so they cant be "out of character". Now if someone who didn't make them writes them differently than the creator did that's bad writing. That's why Sonic shouldn't be written by anyone outside of Sega. Only they know how to write the characters since it is their characters. Its why the comics sucked because they couldn't write Sega's characters good
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Hey guys, hows it going. I want to get into the sonic comics, but dont know where to start and go after watching cybershells latest sonic comic video. Whats a good issue to start at and where can I read the comics?
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>>181039369
You started out convincing, but you got too ridiculous by the end of the post.
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>>181039369
>Now if someone who didn't make them writes them differently than the creator did that's bad writing
Not if they make the character better.
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>>181039563
As someone who was in your position a year ago, I'd start at the reboot, #252. All of the crazy Penders nonsense is done away with and the writing is on-point. Yes, you won't get as much out of it since, sadly, you'll be starting at the tail-end of the comic's lifespan, but at least you'll be caught up so you can be sad like the rest of us
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>>181039112
So it was the same that you said initially, my apologies. I think I hear it now though.
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>>181039861
But they don't . Sega are the only ones who should write their characters or change them. Other people, including fans, can't do this. They try, and its bad because they clearly don't know how to write them.
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>>181040051
I know how to write them.
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>>181039887
Not that anon but is pic related the current stance on how to read the Archie comics?

Also, with Fleetway and the Manga, is there a specific order to read or can it just be chronologically.
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>>181040353
>There are actual Sonic Heroes Fags ITT.

Just shut this General down.
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>>181040051
>Sega are the only ones who should write Sonic
Why do you like eating shit?
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>>181022962
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>>181038914
don't worry, the genius is from geralds side. he was just misunderstood. the rottenness is maternal
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>>181041085
>Lost World is last in the timeline
>Zavok is in Forces
Theory busted.
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Whenever someone gets the Sonic 25th Anniversary Art Book, could they maybe scan it and post the link for people who can't afford it?
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Need to amend the textures some, but still progress.
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>>181041330
>what is time travel
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>>181041385
Fine. But why does Modern Sonic remember his exploits as Classic Sonic if Classic Sonic comes after?
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>>181041330
You're arguing against a theory by a guy, genuine or shitposter, more autistic than anything else posted on this general. Stop now, unless you want to spend your time repeatedly banging your head against a wall.
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>>181041604
because from his (and our) perspective sonic adventure does comes after. it's easiest to assume the chronology follows sonics perspective.
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>>181041358
GAMMA-MON DIGIVOLVE TO...!
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Does /sthg/ have a Discord?
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>>181040749
They own the characters, it's only fair
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>>181042185
doesn't matter if you own a character. matters if you can write them well

that's why it's a good thing we have based iizuka
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>>181041275
Gerald created a death laser and Biolizard.

I mean sure he was a nice guy up until creating those things but he still created those things.
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>>181042316
Come on, anon, you're bordering on outright parody, at this point. Don't you have anything better to do? Play video games? Read?

>>181042437
Those things were made to repel an alien invasion.
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>>181040284
Looks right. Just read chronologically, from Super Genesis Wave for the archie comic if you just want to start at the reboot. You can always go back later.

>>181041358
Aw yeah

>>181041936
Don't have a link but I think it's mostly for contacting artists.
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>>181039236
>But Maria might be the exception, the one who stays pure.
Nah, she'd go down the Obito Uchiha route from Naruto. People thought he was the only "good" Uchiha and look what happened; he became one of the worst.
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>>181039563
Should just legit start from the beginning and experience all the craziness if you are willing to put in the time and effort. I think you'd have plenty of time, considering the situation and everyone waiting for Archie to officially cancel it before we do a mass storytime event on 4chan again where every issue is storytimed in order.

If you just wanted the good bits, you could do a good chunk of early issues (up to the 50 or so) then skip to 160 where the current writer gets on-board and experience the commonly called golden age of the book. It's a lot more confusing route, but there's wikis full of stuff to look up if the book doesn't give a rundown itself.

If you just want the easy jumping on point there's the reboot at 252 and Sonic Universe 55. It has consistently decent writing, but never fully hits the highs of what came before it outside of one or two arcs, in my opinion. It's easier to digest in general, though, and you'll be caught up to what is (or was) current with the comic's current world and story.
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>>181038914
I remember imagining this wild headcanon where Maria actually lived and her death was a fake memory implanted into Shadow by GUN, Gerald was captured but also under the knowledge that Maria was dead. I don't know where that would go but it's just me overthinking.
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>>181042653
>>181042851
>>181040284

fuck this marathon bullshit. just look up topics you are interested in and read those issues. or pick one at random until you find a plotline you can't put down
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>>181042890
May I ask why you imagined this in the first place?
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Speaking if Maria. Do you think she would have been capable of possessing the high intellect most Robotnik's have if she lived?
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>>181042316
I wish he was writing Forces. Then again he probably has a big part in it. I feel like people hate him only because he disagrees with their headcanons
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>sonic mania would've been a completely all new original sonic experience if it weren't for bazooka telling the team to rehash a bunch of old levels or it wont sell
>green hill zone AGAIN and other implied rehashed stages in forces is probably also bazooka's fault

How does this make you feel?
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>>181042963
Better yet, use the wiki and look up plot summaries, save yourself the time. It takes less time and you get the important stuff in a fifth of the time
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>>181043168
they didn't cut anything. the classic stages are literally just more content on top of what they were already going to do
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>>181043168
he doesn't know
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>>181043009
Nah, she's a girl.

>>181043168
"Mania" would have been S1, 2, and CD bundled together with a small original game thrown in as a bonus. Bazooka just told them to combine the games and make new versions of the old stages.
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>>181042890
The only way she could have lived is if that bullet wasn't fatal when she was shot and G.U.N went like "Well, she's just a little girl." and saved her.

But if such a thing as Maria living was the case: Then what has she been doing all this time? Living in a shack on an island somewhere?
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>>181043168
Izuka is also the one who thought giving Sonic the Hedgehog a dedicated run button in Lost World was an okay thing to do. He's off his rocker to be sure. I'm not angry at him. More sad than anything.
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>>181042971
It just came from the thought of "What if she lived", but then had to think "How would she survive being shot", only to settle with "She didn't get shot" or "The wound wasn't fatal".

Either way any form of using Maria again would be weird writing anyway unless it was another continuity like Boom.
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>>181043317
>implying they aren't lying to avoid outrage
>or that they aren't telling a misleading truth: all the new stages are what they had already completed, and before they could start on the rest of their planned stages, iizuka told them to put in old stages instead
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>>181043415
What if they pulled a twist on how amnesiac Shadow thought he might have been artificial, by making a clone Maria who thinks she's the real deal?
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>>181043378
>lost world unironically has a fucking run button
>people actually defend that shit
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>>181043672
It isn't a "press this button to GO FAHST" button, it's a "press this button to play regularly because you people kept complaining that Boost Sonic is too hard to control" button.
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>>181043672
it's to make sonic actually controllable so that the platforming can be good

boostfucks out
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>>181043168
Mania's getting more content than it would have and some of the remixed stages look different and crazy enough to be worth having the level theme reused. Iizuka seems high on the idea of the Classic universe continuing based on interviews so if Mania succeeds, we'll likely get a fully original Classic Sonic game from the Mania team proper.
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>>181043856
Sonic was perfectly controllable in the classic and Adventure games, and there was no run button in those.
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>>181043964
>Sonic was perfectly controllable in the Adventure games
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>>181043415
The only way I can see Maria coming back in any reasonable way would be her being a villain for a game. She could be Shadow's final villain. Because when you look at it; Shadow has fought everyone involved in the Ark in some manner. Gerald, the Biolizard, Emerl, the Commander, Black Doom. It would make sense in a narrative sense for Maria to be the last one for him.
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>he's so autistic that he judges the writing based on WHO is writing it, not the quality of the writing itself
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>>181044096
>shadow has to fight maria

anno, please.
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>>181044053
>pokefag is a complete casual

I'm shocked.
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>>181044257
difficult controls are not a good thing
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>>181044230
If you really love your waifu, you're going to have to fight your waifu when she gets edgy.
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>>181044196
It's probably the "fan art is shit because it isn't official art" guy. Pay him no mind.
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>>181043856
If anything the run button makes Sonic harder to control. You have two speeds: too slow to be useful and too fast to be precise.

You want to control Sonic's speed in 3D? Well there's this nifty new piece of tech called an Analog Stick. It lets you have an entire range of speeds simply by tilting the stick! It's really something!
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>>181044393
fast when you don't need to be precise and slow when you do

analog stick works with both speeds, giving you an even fuller range of motion.
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>>181044354
But they aren't difficult. That's what makes you a casual.
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>>181044257
>reaction image means someone's a fan of that series.
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Does anyone know why the Spin Dash mechanics from the Adventure games has never been brought back?

That shit felt great. Spin Dash jumps were fun and rewarding to do, plus it was actually useful for general movement and attacking.
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>>181043964
As someone who loves the Adventure games only second to the classic games, what the fuck are you saying.

Getting through the levels quick is abusing the geometry and the spindash, not good controls.
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>>181044510
adventure had shit controls. the controls being shit is the entire reason we have on rails sections and homing attack and the boost games decided to just be a narrow race track instead of actual platforming

lost world is an actual 3D platformer because you are able to control sonic for the first time in 3D
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>>181044557
Boost replaced it
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>>181044354
If you actually find the controls difficult you should find a new hobby.
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>>181044510
No offense but if Sonic ISN'T casual as fuck then it's doing something wrong. Like. Sonic is CLEARLY made to be a casual game series sometimes with a high difficulty curve (sonic 2) If you need an amount of skill to simply make the character move in a way that causes him to be easy to control, then that's just not well made.
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>>181044776
>if you don't like eating shit then you should find a new hobby
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>>181044785
>implying you aren't just asshurt about getting called out
>employs the "take everything down with me" tactic out of desperation
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>>181044838
hey, don't knock it till you try it
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>>181044916
I did try it. that's why I call it shit

adventure controls are Garbo
boost is on rails
lost world is a good 3D platformer
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>>181044838
>he doesn't like eating shit
What a fag
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>>181044838
>mocks eating shit
>shovels down pokeshit
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>>181043856
>>181044393
>>181044501
You know what's funny about this conversation? I almost never needed to let go of the run button in Lost World, and, when I did, it wasn't because he was too fast, but because I didn't want him going up walls whenever I got near them. Lost World never asks for the precision Sonic's slow speed gives you.

>>181044668
>>181044785
>>181044838
Just because you can't help but spaz out your thumb on the analog stick doesn't mean Adventure takes more than a small modicum of skill to use. It's barely more difficult to control than Mario 64.
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>>181044557
I feel like I'd like spindash more if it was good for almost anything other than spindash jumping.

It's too hard to aim to really be an effective attack and it's not much better at building speed and going fast than just using homing attack and running.

I'd rather they improve on it to be honest, but I do miss spin dash. Lost world tried bringing it back but it felt so wierd.
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>>181045036
>implying I play generic jrpgs
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>>181044838
>Implying liking Sonic in general is not the result of high tolerance for shit-eating.
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>>181045136
Honestly, SA1 Sonic is even easier to control than SM64. Sonic literally goes EXACTLY where you point him at any given time, it's 100% down to user error when you fuck up.
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>>181045018
I was talking about eating shit, silly anon
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>>181045313
I love Adventure and would gladly kill Iizuka for a third one, but fuck dude please stop.

Go on, even with baiting, record yourself not hitting any walls in Windy Valley.
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>>181045164
I always figured boost was the modern spindash and that's why they haven't brought it back
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>>181045313
>>181045313
analog sticks aren't meant for pointing. if you steered him with a mouse it might be a good control. but it's an analogue stick. too sensitive is a bad thing. it's like a steering wheel in a car, you want it to go towards the direction you turn it. you don't want it to spin out when you touch the wheel

>arguing with adventurecucks with stockholm syndrome
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>>181044668
I highly disagree, but I am jealous that you were able to enjoy Lost World. I, for one, feel that it is one of the worst Sonic games ever produced as it spits in the face of everything that Sonic is from a mechanical standpoint while at the same time trying to pass itself off as some kind of Classic Sonic love-letter thematically. It disgusts me on a fundamental level. With that said, I'm happy that you were able to enjoy it.

>>181045136
I never let go of the run button either. Side-note, does Lost World's running feel inconsistent to anyone else? It feels like his speed changes based on the camera angle and the direction he's running. It's very off-putting.

>>181045313
You know, except during that one spline segment in Emerald Coast. You know the one. The one right before the Orca.
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I'll be honest. I like how adventure controls but I'm not gonna pretend it doesn't have flaws or is the most ideal way sonic should move.

Same goes for heroes, Boost and lost world.

All have their pros and cons (some more cons than others) and tend to be wildly different in execution despite having the same base gameplay. I feel like every style could use quite a bit more fine tuning before I declare it the "ideal" gameplay style for sonic, to be honest.
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>>181045467
it does things differently which is good because the way things were done in 3D before was shit.

it's good for the same reason that 2006 is. going fast takes skill, rather than being just a button you press.

>>181045582
all of them share a key flaw: you can't be precise so you need a bunch of crutches like homing attack or on rails to help you
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>>181045582
Lots of honesty in this post.
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>>181045440
Full retarded.

>>181045582
DX has control problems, I'll give you that. And that's the one most people are familiar with.
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>>181045436
The difference is boost is more of a constant movement instead of a quick burst of speed from a stopped position. That said things like the drop dash are pretty neat and I wouldn't mind having something like that as a compromise.
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>>181041085
The "hedgehog line" makes sense as a possible chronology of the games, but why are Adventure onwards, with the exception of Lost World, placed before the classic games?
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>>181027664
Why is he so obedient to Rouge? Is it because she released him? And does Omega have a Flicky inside him?
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>>181045440
>a device meant to point in 360 degrees of direction
>not meant for pointing

>>181045641
>you can't be precise
Except you can be precise. It's called not fully tilting the analog stick to the side. It's called managing Sonic's momentum by pointing him in the opposite direction to slow him down (much like the classic games, imagine that!).

>>181045765
He's trying to make sense of Iizuka's "two worlds" bullshit in the most obtuse, complicated way he can.
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>>181045765
the hedgehog line is literally just the release order
>why are Adventure onwards, with the exception of Lost World, placed before the classic games?
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>>181045885
>adventure
>momentum
full retard
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>All of this discussion about how Sonic should and shouldn't control

It's like Christmas for me when this happens. I love it. Just remember, everybody: you have a brand new tool at your disposal. The HedgePhysics engine gives you complete control over Sonic's acceleration, his top speed, how he reacts to slopes, how the camera responds to his movement, everything.
If you have a vision of how you think Sonic should feel in 3D then you have the power to SHOW people what it is you're trying to get across rather than just trying to explain it through words.
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>>181046104
He's addressing several games there you moron.
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>>181045879
They're friends. Omega trusts Rouge. Plus being the voice of reason and making up for both Omega and Shadow's lack of social skills is a big part of her role in the team.
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>>181045879
I've wondered what is powering eggman robots made from heroes onward. Like they don't have animals in them anymore. Did he find an alternative power source or was he just using animals as a power source just to be a dick?
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>>181046132
But why do something and potentially make a contribution when I can just shitpost instead
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>>181046214
But wasn't Omega right?
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>>181046391
Right about what?
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>>181046214
>Chronicles
But yeah, Omega and Rouge are friends.
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>>181046383
Because once you learn how the engine works you can create a whole new breed of shitposting.
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>>181045994
>Because of a decades old OVA that isn't canon to anything
Makes sense
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>>181045313
>Easier to control than 64
I'm an Adventurefag, but fuck no. Mario's precision in 64, even to this day is astounding. Movement in that game feels so fluid and free, and it's easy to take advantage of the game's many movement options because the controls work so well
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>>181047263
>canon

if they didn't intend for it to be a part of the story why did they tell it in the first place?
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>>181047512
Money
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>>181047441
he's shitposting about the 100% 1:1 direct input. and doesn't realize that momentum and response times are key to making something as smooth as mario, and instead of just having mario go exactly where you point him they spent time to actually tune the physics to be that good
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>>181047441
I vehemently disagree with everything you just said.
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>>181046498
He turns on them at the end so Omega was right for wanting to wreck his shit at any opportunity.
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>>181046104
>>181046210
And the Adventure games do have momentum (as Sonic). They have more momentum than both the boost games and Lost World. It's why spindash jumping works in the first place. It's why you need to actually have speed to go up rails in SA2, and why the majority of rails in that game are downward slopes. It's the entire basis of beating Perfect Chaos in Adventure. Most of the levels don't make much use of it, but it's there.
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>>181047576
OVA's don't make em. what about it?

>>181047674
so omega is worf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edflm7Hh3hs
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>>181047441
>>181047673
FIGHT
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>>181047512
This. 100% this. People rag on about how "adaptations aren't canon" or whatever, but if they didn't count, why make them? Everything is canon to Sonic, because it exists
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>>181045885
A relatively simple way to think of the whole "two worlds" thing is it being metaphorical as opposed to literal and just that there are areas of the world where there are no humans and strange möbius like natural structures and there are areas that more closely resemble our own world.
This, of course, disregards the inconsistencies with the various world maps of the various games.

>>181045994
>the hedgehog line is literally just the release order
Sonic Rush made me think otherwise.
>pic
What happened to Angel Island and the Master Emerald?

Also, as someone said earlier, Modern Sonic remembers the classic games so how could they happen after, and so many years after to boot.
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>>181047728
turning around on a dime at full speed isn't momentum
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>>181047728
Even Heroes has some semblance of those physics, although they only seem to apply to jump off ramps and inclines. Something to do with the lead programmer who worked on the Adventure games and Heroes.
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>>181047512
There is this concept called "separate continuities". It's this idea that you can tell different stories in entirely different settings using similar concepts and characters.
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>>181047890
According to that logic, Sonic has three moms.
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>>181045313
>Sonic literally goes EXACTLY where you point him at any given time
No he doesn't. He'll run at an angle sometimes even when you're pushing straight forward. Especially in Windy Valley.
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>>181047659
No, I understand perfectly well what they tried to do with Mario 64 controls, I just think they failed with their execution.
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>>181034220
Going by this chart, Shadow is Eggman's uncle.

I support this.
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>>181047952
That's a bullshit concept and you know it. It's an excuse for people to try and handwave the fact that if it exists, it's canon in one way or another. Everything in the SOnic franchise has happened in the games, or between games. Or as an alternate timeline. Think of it like Zelda. The same characters come back as reincarnations. Why don't people realize this?
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>>181048003
you think that, as the only person in the world

>>181048014
and maria is shadow's niece
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>>181047890
>Everything is canon to Sonic, because it exists
Everything Sonic related is canon in their own continuities.

Can't exactly explain StC, Underground, AoStH and Archie Sonic all being the same continuity.
Also what >>181047981 said.
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>>181047981
Yes he does. He's had 3 moms throughout his many incarnations
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>>181048092
there is no canon. but the OVA was produced by Yuji naka. do you think he'd just include some random bullshit without intending it to be part of his sonic story? animation offers a chance to tell some story you can't in a game.
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>>181048208
>Continuities
There's that buzzword again. Show me where Sega says they're not canon.
>Can't exactly explain StC, Underground, AoStH and Archie Sonic all being the same continuity.
See >>181048092


>>181048363
Exactly. Sega approved it and Naka worked on it. The OVA is canon to the games, end of story
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>>181048208
American sonic isn't part of the same continuity as the games and the ova. they used a lot of the ideas but they repurposed them to fit
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There is a lot of retardation happening in this thread again.
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>>181047991
>No he doesn't

Yes he does, I 100% promise you that's user error or a DX issue.
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Love sonic
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>>181048591
I mean, I was looking forward to seeing anons on here make some stages in GHPAnon's thing, but I guess everyone's too focused shitposting over pointless nonsense.
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>>181048661
analogue sticks aren't precise to begin with. especially the early ones like on the dreamcast were complete garbage
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>>181048192
>argumentum ad populum
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>>181048591
People can't seem to recognize autists/shitposters no matter how many times they show up. That, or they have an insatiable need to argue with these people.
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>>181048406
Pretty sure Sega said that Boom wasn't canon to the standard games, therefore, it is it's own continuity.

>>181048092
>Zelda
In Zelda, the characters don't remember the events or people from previous games.
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>>181048753
The DC analog literally had the most receptors of any analog stick until the 360 and didn't throw off your movements with a gate. The """analog""" stick on the N64 controller was particularly bad because it wasn't analog at all, it used a limited number of light sensing diodes.
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>>181049143
>In Zelda, the characters don't remember the events or people from previous games.
Same with the various timelines of Sonic. Archie Sonic doesn't remember Game Sonic. AoSTH doesn't remember Archie. It's a simple concept
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>>181049143
>In Zelda, the characters don't remember the events or people from previous games.
Sometimes they do. Even Link on occasion.
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So is Sega ever going to re-release Sonic Shuffle?
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in zelda the reincarnation thing is explicit

sonic is not zelda
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>>181049578
in zelda the entire thing is shit so who cares
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>It's a "Let's apply the logic from another game to this game" argument.
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>>181049578
>banging your head against a wall
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>>181049275
Okay sure, guess I can't argue with that logic, but ignoring the various "alternate timelines" that are not Game Sonic, and going back to the timeline posted here >>181041085, how do you explain the Classic games, which Modern Sonic does remember, happening later in the timeline than the Adventure games onwards?

>>181049438
Okay yes, I painted all Zelda games with the same brush... or whatever, but for the most part, unless the games are directly connected like with OoT and MM or WW and PH, the characters don't remember any events from previous games.
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>>181049839
>how do you explain the Classic games, which Modern Sonic does remember, happening later in the timeline than the Adventure games onwards?

are you mentally limited or something? can you seriously not imagine that someone, using chaos control, would have a different view of the timeline from everyone else?
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>>181049839
Because Modern was sent back in time after Sonic 3 but kept his memories. It's not that hard to figure out. Also this >>181050007
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There is a lot of Iizuka-tier talk going on in here.
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I want to replay Sonic 1 and 2 (and others because of Mania coming out soon), and the Android/iOS version is clearly the best (better resolution, widescreen, added content, etc), is there a way to emulate it well on PC? And if I buy the games for Android, and use a physical controller, can I make those controller overlays disappear? (actually, this information is probably useful for emulating them on PC, too)
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>>181047981
They could just be different versions of the same person.
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>>181050007
>>181050104
So just Modern was sent back in time?

Sure, lets say time travel was involved as it's an easy crutch to rely on, I assume time travel was also used to get Sonic back to the future for Lost World?
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>>181050007
Sonic doesn't discover that until Adventure 2.
>>181050104
But why go back to begin with?
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>>181047789
>Recommend we go to yellow alert sir!
>...why?
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>>181050374
He was sent back in time and through after Sonic 3 to when humans existed
> I assume time travel was also used to get Sonic back to the future for Lost World?
Yes
>>181050414
Eggman was going to take over his current time.
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>>181050548
Where was that said?
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>>181041339
Seconded.

I was going to ask could someone to show it off so I can be encouraged to get it myself eventually. since they officially stated that the books are available yesterday.
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>>181050630
Not said anywhere. But it makes logical sense if you pay attention
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>>181049839
Okay, let me paint the whole picture of this autist/shitposter's timeline. Iizuka's "two worlds" aren't actually separate areas of space, but two different time periods, despite there being no indication of such in the games. The "classic" world actually exists after an apocalypse in the "human" world, where most of humanity died out and animal people evolved, despite there being no indication of such in the games. Sonic was born in the classic era, but, through time travel fuckery, is able to travel between the two eras, despite there being no indication of such in the games. Noticing a pattern here? Also, Tails, Knuckles, the Chaotix, Eggman, and the entirety of Angel Island are also able to travel between the two eras, despite there being no indication of such in the games.

This theory, of course, has a ton of inconsistencies, which the autist/shitposter tries to cover for by saying every single Sonic story, cartoons, comics, the whole lot, are all part of one continuity. His explanation for that bit of retardation is a crippling inability to comprehend the idea of alternate universes. This is why I think he's a shitposter, because one would have to have a severe mental handicap to think like that.
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>>181050414
you're right, the initial travel was an accident
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We need a new thread.
By the way, good afternoon, /sthg/.
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>>181041358
Looks neat so far, anon.

>>181042963
>>181043275
That's another option as well. Some people prefer to read it all or want context of what's being referred to. I was just throwing the picture out there, anon.

It, at least seems, to have the subsections so you can pick and choose from there and then look at up, like you said. We don't know what the other anon wants.
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>>181050798
>despite there being no indication of such in the games.

Forces says Classic is a 'pint-sized Sonic from another dimension'.

>>181051009
So Shadow was talked into stopping the Ark by both Amy and Chris Thorndyk?
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>>181050948
>cartoons, comics
no. the cartoons and comics are inconsistent because they don't operate from the same story bible that sonic team does and are told virtually nothing about the continuinty when making their adaptations

you could make a case for satam, barely. satam is more interesting in that the ideas they had are obviously being adapted by sonic team. just look at forces' resistance and space colony ark.
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>>181051142
>So Shadow was talked into stopping the Ark by both Amy and Chris Thorndyk?
At one point yes. In another timeline it's just Amy
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>>181050948
Y'know, I think he might just actually have a mental handicap that severe.
I hope he has a good carer.
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>>181051169
>space colony ark in SatAM
Huh?
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>>181051369
in satam robotnik is from the past. he was on a space colony and was transported into the future due to time dilation

in sonic adventure robotnik was born in the human world and his grandfather built a space colony
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>>181051075
Afternoon, anon. It didn't seem like people had a good morning/day.
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New bread
>>>>181051721
>>181051721
>>181051721
>>181051721
>>181051721
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>>180966110
Nostalgia plays a factor, but the real reason why Classic is there is stated blatantly in the trailer for Forces.

>BOOST AS MODERN SONIC
>PLATFORM AS CLASSIC SONIC

It's just because Sonic Team can't find a way to add any real substance to the boost formula outside of dumb gimmicks and making an entirely separate, more platforming oriented, character to play as. OC character is just a reskinned Boom Sonic that they threw together after Boom got shat on by everyone.
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