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Previous >>180837013


>A lot of info and details about re-balance stuff
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/ktest-ktos-class-rework-thread-important-info-in-1st-post/354628


>HG 315 Purple Weapons X Practonium Purple Weapons
https://pastebin.com/78mTQn1Y

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=3&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1026

>Current events:
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=33&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1018
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1019
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=994


>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)


TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Addon Manager (includes jTOS and iTOS addons)
https://github.com/JTosAddon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager/releases


>Database, skill planner and other stuff
https://tos.neet.tv/

dont use tosbase (you dont read this anyways)


>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Hunting Grounds locations and gear spreadsheet (all in RNG cubes now. drop from all)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fP4G1JjL2pj6wMfpL_3o9pFWYIKpr3QnYgQ-XTfK21k/pubhtml#


>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
cute (Merigolds and Majiene)

>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)

>Telsiai
Comfy (neshoi)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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First for Wugushi buff!!
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>>180931794
there is/should be a shop to exchange them. you pick the item. similar to ET shop
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>>180931994
>>180931903
or nvm.. they didnt even bring that over from kr?
lazy fucks
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I recently did a few 25F runs with random people from shout with my taoist, on my static I play with another character (DPS). Why is playing a full support cleric so comfy? all you need to do is keep people alive, which isn't even very hard in this game. Just have to drop a few heals, cast revive, use mass heal whenever someone needs it, use laima and a few other things like pulling in 21F or using storm call.
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>>180931930
Xth for Wugushi butt!
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>>180932142
You have to bring the right number for the one you want to get
Which is stupid as shit
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>>180932274
>>180931994
>>180932142
Yeah, it was a shop like pic in both KR servers. I got 2 Costumes on klive.

That is really lame. Stupid MrKim.
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>>180932173
Eh, I had to do way more things in my DievMikoPD than I do on my Ele now.
>cast FC + Mastema
>cast Hail + Pole on next wave
>call pass
That's literally it.
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>>180932473
no electrocute on tree?
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Is there anything comfier than successfully farming both 315 HG cubes uncontested?

>(you dont read this anyways)
Thanks OP.
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>>180932549
Shit dies anyway, no need
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>Ktos patch preview
http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=756

Pretty much all the stuff from test. Meh
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>go to orange mat area to farm some mats
>start farming, some random nerd invades my channel while there are other empty channels
>change channel, some other guy comes to my channel
>change channel again
>the last guy that jumped in my channel starts jumping between the other channels that have people in them
well, ok
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>>180933101
How many of them were SR subhumans?
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>>180933101
none of them I believe, one of them was a priest chaplain and not sure what the other one was
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don't really care about this necro killing but trying to kill the ACTIVE guy just shows that you're just as much of a low scum as them
there's density enough for questing there, get your pathetic ass back to dina bee or tenet church, subhuman
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>kTest patch
http://tos.nexon.com/testserver/notice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=77

>Quick Cast
>The problem is that the skill level on the output when using the skill casting speed and the character's head did not fit will be modified .
Oh nice

>charge
>The problem is corrected companion leg does not move when you move while using an assault skills
Hmm

>Food Cover, Refreshments set, TOS placards (fish items)
>The issue did not affect the cooldown of your items will be modified
Oh cmon, dont add cooldowns to all stuff

not much else, some bug fixes
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>>180933330
mad necro scum detected
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>>180933330

It's ten million times more likely to be a bot/macro rather than an "active" necro, especially if it wasn't talking like the guy said.
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Me on the left
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>>180933545
post the follow up picture
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>>180933330
>looking once every 5 minutes at a screen while masturbating
>the same as playing actively
Yeah nah nerd
t. necro
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>>180933585
I want to edge all day while playing a necro.

Post build.
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>>180933659
Cryo3ChronoNecro3
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>>180933782
Please spoonfeed skillbuild
All INT?
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>>180933782
>>180933659
no, baka.
It's Cryo3SummonNecro3
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>>180933836
All SPR

>>180933902
Sorc summon doesn't attack while afk.
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>>180933902

There's no point to Sorceror if you're not using a macro, but I guess there's no point to Chrono1 if you're not using a macro either.
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>>180934068
Costume!
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>>180933342
also many
>Rank Instance
>Lv100-120
Monsters without models

https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items?name=%ED%95%B4%EA%B8%88%EA%B6%8C&order=cdated&f=1
>ClassName: HiddenJobUnlock_Char
>Type: Premium
But maybe they are only for Test or part of RankReset
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https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/490181
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/490182
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/490183
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/490184

Uhmmmmmmmmmm...
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>>180934449
This is not premium stuff to skip pre quests right?
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>>180934548
hehehe... hehe
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>>180934548
It is marked as premium
>>180934239
>>180934449
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>>180934714
It still could just be that they plan to use these for rank resets for R9 release right?

right?
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why does the blessing scrolls you get from vendor make so much more damage?
I have blessing lvl 15 myself, but when I casr my own my hits do 1500-1600 atk while with a pardoner's lvl 15 blessing they do 1800 dmg
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>>180934774
use ur brian moran
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>>180934774
They have better gear than you and often monster gems, so that gives them a better scaling
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>>180934756
Rank Reset are also all Premium https://tos.neet.tv/?q=Rank+Reset

Dont freak out yet. No info about them and its ktest.
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>>180934774
It's not like blessing scales with something
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>>180934449
>Shinobi and Miko quests
B A S E D
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>>180934449
GOOD, now all we need are main/side quest clear tickets, or at least some sort of pass that gives you the bonus stat points from quest/goddess statue. You still have the quests avaliable, but they will only give you exp cards and maybe silver.
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>>180934931
>>180934876
>>180934876
yeah but i thought they were only lvl based and did scale up to your equip and not the pardoner's one
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>>180933545

the followup is glorious impenetrable abs muscles

this is just the basic highlander abs training
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>>180932406
Even worse..

at KR you can log out and the counter still goes to 1 hour. But on WhitePig TOS it does not.

What the fuck, lazy Kim
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>>180931791
Klaipeda
Join Futureproof, pm ApplyAFineHorse3
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>>180934948
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kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCqmjS34kGY&t=5s
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>>180930884
Tried for 30 minutes, got 2 monster gems and a red orb but no boater, will try again later with more time
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>>180936404
Old news granpa
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>>180936730
stfu nerd
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Is Nathar watchtower a "hunting ground"?
I've been doing the lvl 120 one and dropped 3 purple cubes in like 15 minutes. While doing this one which should be lvl 170 I didn't drop single cube in 1 hour
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Is Diev 3 still the best choise for druids after the recent/coming patches? Dropped the game like 5 months ago with a level 320 druid.
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>>180936809
Cube drops get more and more rare the higher level the hunting ground gets
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>>180934948
lmfao

why stop there why not just have everything in the store?

jesus christ just make an insta max level pvp shitter server like pservers in RO. this is already dangerously close anyway, except the pvp is trash compared to RO and always will be.
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>>180936857
ow shitto
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>>180936923

ToS seems to be establishing itself as yet another MMO where levelling is a formality and everyone is pushing towards muh endgame. Problem is they forgot the endgame.
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how the fuck do i send a pm ingame? or do I need to have them in front of me?
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>>180937262
/w name

>>180937060
i can't think of an MMO recently that has a good "endgame", maybe POE

original RO and WoW were all about the journey
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>>180931791
Coffee is recruiting
We are growing stronger, our guild just levelled up too
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>>180937408

There isn't one. That's why the genre is dying. It appealed to normies that wanted instant gratification and never realized MMO "endgame" is a giant meme. WoW has fucking instant level 100 cash shop items and its community gobbled Blizzard's cock for them. That should say enough.
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>>180936453
Necro extermination is going to become a good business if red orbs become common
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>>180936835
Druid got nerfed hard
It wasn't good 5 months ago and now is trash with no niche to fit in
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>>180937408
/w name, have aready a name in whisper that I can't erase ffs
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>>180937541
Sapper3 Fwee3 isn't a DPS class.
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>>180938359
Why is druid bad?
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>>180938359
Druid got buffed again in korea, don't lose hope
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Is GvG broken or just dead?
What are the current rewards?
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>>180938826
me on the right
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>>180938510
Druid3 got nerfed, no more 100% stat gain and Wolf form is weaker and consume lot more SP
Carnivory is a pseudo AoE now though, as long there are less than 8 mobs on the grass they will all get full hits
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>>180938826
>GBL
currently disabled. was dead before.
shiny ugly armband and a cardbox(30day) to sit in

>open world GvG
dead. almost everyone is neutral
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>>180939071
The ugly armband can be sold on market
Recent event gave out perma boxes and they are cheap on market
GBLfags truly BTFO
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>>180939258
>The ugly armband can be sold on market
neets says no
https://tos.neet.tv/?q=Place+Armband
My also can not. And the armband of another person in another guild also cant.

Maybe there is/was some bug or you lie.
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>>180938987
I was hoping to do a plant build instead of the furry memes, as long as I just put 2 points in lycan it will be fine right?
Druid isn't nerfed into being worse than pyro is it?
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>>180939938
Druid is ok it's just kind of a one trick pony with carnivory hitting like a truck and the wolf doing very little damage.
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>>180932142
>>180932274
>>180932406
>To obtain each reward, you must deliver the corresponding number of Wood Boards in a single transaction (for example, to receive the pirate costume, you will need to have 100 Wood Boards in your inventory).
baka imc
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>>180939807
Pretty sure some were sold
A guildmate of mine bought a first place armband
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>>180940706
Thinking about it now, yes i remember seeing some in market sometime ago too. But now they cant. Looks like unintended bug.
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>>180938826

feet should not be allowed on blue boards
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>>180940132
>>180939938
Fuck I was literally going Krivis/Druid DEX/SPR for the furry memes, I even got the yellow gems. Just kill me now lads.
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>>180938826
I want her to do the same on my foreskin.
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>>180938419
It has literally more hopes than my wizard and her not even +10 weapon
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So using sacrament + cafrisun set + enchant fire woul be 4 hit autos?
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Nobody sells max level ancient fire scrolls.... ....... ...
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>>180943516
They dont exist in this game.

Enchanter can only make Lv5 scrolls and they cost a lot for each level.

Enchant Fire Lv15 would probably not be a lot better then Lv1 because they scale with your stats. And you low alt is weak.
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>>180943516
you need to be pyro c4 to make ancient fire scrolls
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I'm a bit new in the game, so correct me i I'm wrong. The boss monsters of the game doesn't drop individual items anymore, but cubes here you can randomly get an item from that boss, right?
So if I want an Wind Runner recipe I still need to kill the boss in royal mausoleum 2F right?
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>>180943780
They only make level 1 scrolls which last only like a minute.
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>>180942106
glad wiz3 is back in meta, it has the best c3 costume plus lots of artwork
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>>180944208
>Pardoners sell buffs that last over an hour
>Can make scrolls that do the same thing

>Enchanter has a buff shop everyone neglects
>Enchanter scrolls are shitty AND expensive
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>>180943968
Yeah. Tosbase is retarded and never made cubes show whats inside them. Same with retarded tos.neet.tv.
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>>180944208
Higher scrolls cost more
Will you pay 5 times for a scroll that last double time? (lv5)
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>>180944785
But does it cost 5 times more?
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they should really rework the scaling cost of scrolls, both from pardoner and enchanters... and they also need to fix attributes (have to double check it...) and agny not working on scrolls anymore. Also, remember that physical dps classes can use the scrolls, they just won't crit (used to crit before r8...)
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>>180945040
yes, it's about 12.5k in mat costs for a lv5 scroll
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>>180945216
This, Simony needs to be reworked to be useful and profitable at the same time.
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>>180944731
tos.neet is datamined stuff and i dont think cube content written are in client files
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>Haven't played my archer in ages
>Have 2h bow out
>Fire cannon
>Doesn't switch back to 2h bow afterwards
The fuck? Do I just have to use crossbow+cannon all the time now?
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>check on my necromancer
>see 2 monster gems dropped
>pick em up while under 5 FPS
>frantically open inventory
>can't find monster gem
>oh, guess it was just an after image of an item that disappeared, shame
>check 20 minutes later
>another monster gem!
>go pick it up
>open inventory
>nothing there
>same thing happens 5 minutes later
>hold ALT to see what the gem is
>"Chimney gem"?
>monsters my necro is killing aren't even called that
>go pick it up
>"Yellow gem"
so confuse
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>>180946162
>necromancer
>go pick it up
anon, you doing it wrong..
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>>180945652
bat shit retarded you are. let me show how retarded you are.

>Haven't played my sword in ages
>Have 2h sword out
>Fire pistol shot
>Doesn't switch back to the 2h sword afterwards
The fuck? Do I have to just use sword+pistol all the time now?
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>>180946162
It's a bug that sometimes happen after maintenance.
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>>180946162
>Afk necro
kys
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>>180945652
Archers auto swap seems bugged now

>>180946336
It worked some months ago, retard.
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Do tokens do last for 30 days for every character in both lobby 1 and 2?
also can characters in the 2 lobibies interact or are lobby 1 & 2 separated?
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>>180946308
but I'm not AFK farming. I'm using a laptop while on my main PC I play better games. image sort of related. also I wish there was a better sound effect when you are low health. sometimes even though i'm right next to my laptop i look back 5 minutes later and my girl is dead
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>>180946162
Update your game noob. It happened to me too because I launched my necro-cluster from command line without patching the clients first.
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>>180946579
yes
Lobbys are still the same team, you can move them around anytime too
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>>180946601
I think you are correct. I want to know tho how do you launch the game with a command line? Would be helpful. I just left my game open all the time.
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>>180946745
so you have 8 character/pet slots for free?
or just 4 shared between lobbies?
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>>180946492
Weird that it'd work one-way but not going back. At least I can grab some Migantis stuff soon until they fix it. Anyways, thanks.
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>>180946864
I think 4 (i got more now, cant remember).
Lobbies are just different screen. slot numbers and everything is for both.
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>>180946587
>afk necro
>dying

you're playing this game wrong
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>>180947159
that's retarded. why should a pet take a character slot
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>>180947245
hehehehe
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>>180947312
>fuck off IMC
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>>180947165
nope
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>>180947245
Because IMC sucks and they give teamexp.
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>>180947245
>here's your free pet!!
>that'll be 33 TP sir
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>>180947581
i'm deleting that fucker once i get 3 chars to 330

don't care if team exp goes down, unless that little shit continues to give 20% exp (it won't) and items (it won't), there is literally 0 point in keeping it for 4 ms
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What level 10 cards do I get as Wugushi?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPdiJPqnxSQ

dragoon is a problematic class all around the world
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>>180947798
it counts just like a char for exp. and 4speed is pretty good. over 10%

but do whatever, f2p guy
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>>180946587
>dynex monitor

Yeah you poor.
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>>180948113
>giving imc shekels given the state of the game
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>>180948308
>implying
:^)
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>>180948308
Hah loser I have like 50m silver from AFK botting Necro call me poor again and I'll pay the chinese RMT mafia to fucking execute your ass
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>>180948537
>can't afford a proper gaming monitor
>not poor

K whatever you say.

>>180948630
50m? That's like $60 bucks. Is that like 984579478 in your Peso?
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>>180948942
That's it. I've contacted the chinese RMT mafia and paid them 20m silver to kill you. Watch your back, fucko.
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>>180948942
Stupid. Just google "laptop image game" and that's in the first page of results. I said image sort of related you autist.

Drink bleach. You deserve rape.
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>>180948454
>not spending some bugs on shit
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even brazilians runs two or more notebooks/laptops and the fine white american man has to com here in /tosg/ to show his acquisitive power, kek
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>>180949292
>implying its just a google stock image

Ok whatever you say buddy, whatever you say.
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>>180949790
>im le retarded poster
even fake stupidity makes me angery
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Does cafrisun work with sacrament or do you get only 1 extra line of dmg?
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what do weapon stats even mean if I do the same damage with a 140-200 atk weapond and a 400-500..?
also, I got 3 5Star red gems in my weapon and It still does the same damage as without.
Playing full SPR
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>>180950143
It works, you get 2 lines
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>>180951010
so I get 3x atk woth both cafrisun and sacrament?
It's a pity it has poor defence
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>>180950530
>I do the same damage with a 140-200 atk weapond and a 400-500
but you don't
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>>180951112
As far as I know, to get the most lines you could do
>Cafrisun
>Sacrament
>Enchant fire
>Enchant lightning
>Running shot

At high level the manahas set does the role of cafrisun better but is a lot of fucking effort to farm
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>>180951139
just tested.
first using blessing+sacrament and a five star hammer with 140 atk and 5 5star red gems in it, total output 1530 ca.
Then changed to a 500 atk ììhammer, same blessings, total 1530 ca.
Then a 100 atk hammer with no gems at all, total 1500 ca
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>>180951206
Enchant Lightning doesn't add a line, it just adds elemental damage. You're missing Aspergilium and Last Rites.
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>>180951206
>Enchant lightning
Nope, just flat attack.
>Running shot
Nope, that splits your physical damage in 2 fake multihits

Chaplain adds one or 2 damage lines.

>>180951438
Nigger you have blessing, at low levels that's 90% of your damage.
try without blessing.
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>>180951206
Doesn't it matter that it has very low def value?
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>>180951452
>You're missing Aspergilium and Last Rites.
This can't be real?
Cafrisun procs Aspergillum too?
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>>180951452
>>180951520
Thanks for reminding me how SHIT enchanter is.
Chaplain wins the most lines

>>180951564
Enemy damage is weak, if you're a chaplain you can heal yourself constantly anyway
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trying to do the Hubert in the maze (1) quest
the thing is the NPC i have to talk to does not appear at all.. tryed to exit and reenter the game, to teleport back and forth between other places, to change channel, to shut down the pc and restart. nothing, the quest mark is there but the npc doesn't show up
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>>180952064
that's a mod.. right?
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>>180951989
>Hubert in the maze
lol
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>>180951989
If Kupole Daiva isn't near the start of Demon Prison District 4, then she's probably bugged and missing. Demon Prison is the only place where NPCs sometimes go missing irc, so might as well do some other quests in the meantime.
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>>180952210
goddamn autocorrect...
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>>180952148
yes
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>>180952315
so I just have to pray that someway the npc shows up again..?
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>>180951616
No, he means that aspergillum and last rites are another individual lines

>>180952327
It's ok anon, made me chuckle
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>>180952490
It's a weird bug that got patched before but somehow showed up again, and it doesn't happen to everyone either. I don't think there's a way to get her to spawn, just do other quests and hope some maintenance in the future happens to fix it. It's oddly rare.
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>>180952952
cause it happened to me 2 quest before, same problem and the npc shiowed up after 1 hour
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>when your guildmates gets 2 practonium from his RNG cubes in less than 2 minutes from each other
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Please tell me this is only happening to me.
I've only got this from kepas so far
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>>180954656
Why are you upset at your friend's good fortune? Doesn't that just make you a shitty friend?
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>>180954656
>master1200
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>>180954841
i just want my Practonium too
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what am i supposed to take on wl2 besides mastema and pole
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>>180954656

if he's your homie, ask for a practo and when you get yours you give to him
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>>180955059
I have 10 practoniums and no orange mats because lazy.

Still opening 5 chests too.
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>>180955148
DT1
Sacrifice1
Invoc8or10
other skills suck, maybe 1 in Trail if you like it
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>>180955148
8 Invocation, 1 in every c1 skill and ignore the ch2 skills.
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>>180955148
Don't take anything, wait for Warlock3 and dump all your points into that, surely it'll be good, right?
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How many times and at what percentage of the damage does Mastema tick?
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>>180955448
20 hits at around 33%
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Wugushi buffs soon!
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>>180955837
>Wugushi butts soon!
prove it!
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>>180955274
>>180955309
why does Valkoria suggest you take max Dark Theurge and max mastema max pole of agony and ignore the rest like invocation and so on?
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>>180956726
Not butts! Buffs! Strong powerful Wugushi poisons!
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Is there anyway to view those big red messages that appear at the top of the screen on chat?
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>>180957643
because he's retarded
Invocation >>>> DT
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>>180957643
Who or what is this Valkoria people have been mentioning for a bit now
Is this some fucking Rugal shit?
Invocation is top tier for AOE
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>>180957652
Strong bootyful Wugushi curves!
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>>180937948

what did they mean by this
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>>180957846
any evidence to support this..?
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unfortunately you can't make spirits from icewalls anymore so I feel that DT -> invocation purely for bossing.

but why boss as elememe when doppel/fencer exists
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>>180958779
hello can you please tell me about chaplain and what to do after it. make sure to post video evidence on every single skill combination plz
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Speaking of elementalist, is Rain a good skill to put one point on or should I just put 2 points in prominence and skip rain?
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>>180958672
>Retard glasses
>Elememe
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>>180958916
your autism is showing
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>>180958672
>weebfag glasses
>retarded build

Checks out.
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>>180958919
not really good, but 1 point in it is ok

>>180958779
invo spirits hit hard. dt spirits dont
source: playing the game
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>>180958779
Play the game
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>>180958672
>0 players like this character
All is right with the world
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>>180959165
nice, I maxed Hail and Electrolute, then 8/10 meteor and was wondering what to do with those 2 points left
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>>180959314
Prom is good too. worth at least 1 point. fire and forget aoe dmg, little rng tho
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>>180959447
thank you
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>>180959447
I've wondered since I started using elememe, what is a prominence?
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>>180959734
It's shit but its worth the cast time I guess

If you mean where the skill originates from, I googled it and instantly the answer was Sun prominences
But I guess google is too hard for the retards of our time
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>>180958916
HELLO MY DEAR FRIEND IT'S THAT TIME OF THE DAY AGAIN!!
WHAT SHOULD I GO AFTER PLAYING CLERIC2 PRIEST3 CHAPLAIN???
PLAGUE DOCTOR OR INQUISITOR???
WHICH ONE IS BETTER???
SUPPORT YOUR ANSWERS AND HELP ME DECIDE ON THE BEST BUILD
FULL SPR BTW
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>>180937948
nice, we need to systematically kill all afk necros and bots
>>
How is the game right now? I quit an year ago once I realized it was just the WoW-like linear quest treadmill. How is the end-game, at least?

Are the classes actually unique, being able to farm solo or in party in different areas and always having a lot of different things to do? How is the itemization?
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>>180960845
ITS ALL COMPLETELY CHANGED
THE GAME IS PERFECT NOW
DONT LISTEN TO DOOMPOSTERS
ITS THE BEST MMO OF ALL TIMES
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>>180960845
I meant to ask that since it was what made RO good.
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>>180958672
if he had gone wiz3>ele2 it would've been ok
I'm wiz3>thauma2 and quick cast will soon be fixed and my full spr build will finally flourish

if r9 brings nothing new for necro/sorc im just gonna pick thauma3 with brand new 800 spr build with inc level cap
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>>180960845
>>180960979
dungeon spam or quest until max lvl
many classes are better now. a few are good. some great.
can solo farm
like no endgame
itemization is basic and boring
no RO

shit but fun game
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>>180961028
>quick cast will soon be fixed
Quick cast bug isn't affecting you at all though, you have no cast times.
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>>180961804
Flesh cannon does
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>>180961804
yeah I have 2 spells that are very long casts depending on how many points you put into them
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>>180962346
>>180962452
Yeah didn't notice it was about necro too
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Wait a second, what should I choose?
play that doctor or inquisition
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>>180962564
yessss another one converted to my eternal question
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>feed fat hoglan twice
>gives no items after 30 minutes
FUCK YOU FAGGOT I'VE HAD YOU SINCE EARLY ACCESS
GIVE ME MY FUCKING EVENT ITEMS YOU FAT SHIT
OR IM GOING TO EUTHANIZE YOUR LAGGY ASS
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>>180962564
Math jew
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>>180962736
>Use free leaf penguin
>Every time it's out of stamina, just level it up
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>>180962857

Why does mine randomly refill its stamina? It's been 330 for a long time now.
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>>180962857
>my penguin got to 330 today
Rip free stamina
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>>180962564
pd seems more fun. plus futureproofâ„¢ because of the ktos update allowing stacked aids.
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>>180962564
well, plague doctor doesn't have to spend 1000s every time he casts his main spell.
Inq hits harder
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>>180962936
DO YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE TO BACK THAT UP?
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>>180962971
pure autism
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>>180962936
what?
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>>180963026
you're amusing
>>180963052
well, isn't it true?
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>>180962564
PD chap isn't even good, Priest Doctor is ok but Chaplain adds nothing to the build; if you're going to go Chaplain go Inq.
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>>180963026
>>180963103
http://tos.nexon.com/testserver/notice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=75

but then again fuck knows it could be next march before servers other than ktos see this
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>>180963424
>fire and forget AIDS and incineration
>autoattack while they tick with priest chap buffs
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>>180963424

PD doctor after chap is top 5 builds on TOS right now
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>>180963615
>plague doctor doctor
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>mfw when PD doctor is the toppest build on TOSG right now
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>>180963820
>TOSofsaviorG general
ftfy
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>>180963820
>tfw want to play PD but cant bring myself to play a 1 hander build
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>>180963724
for double AIDS
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>mfw have 9 pracs
>open 2 boxes today
>get 2 more pracs
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>>180963915
Why would anyone play Plague Doctor when Wugushi is a billion times better?
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>>180964003
You cant spell shit without shi and you cant spell Wugushi without shit
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>>180963915
why 1hander?
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>>180954835
I think this is a big from the update and certain files not changing appropriately.

Did you manually put mods in?
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>>180964092
It just doesnt feel right
Also why the orange practo weapon is a gay magical heart rod
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>>180963820
Who makes this mean bullying art?
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>>180964193
it's not gay, it's cute
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>>180964193
Use the dumb eyeball rod if you don't like it.
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>>180964310
A woman, funnily enough.
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>>180964382
Imagine a room of random 100 men and you show them a picture of this "weapon"
And you tell each one of them to tell you what adjective would be best to describe this
What do you think the common consensus on this thing will be
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>>180964193
You should look at the purple pract staff
Now that shit is gay.
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>>180964559
Why does she hate the highlander?
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Does double pay and swell body work together?
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>>180964583
Agreed, but regard horn staff one of the best looking weapons in the game
Dont know why they went didn't go with the "regard" design on the rod too, and every weapon actually
>>180964463
No that shit is ugly as sin
The only option is to fuse a windia rod to it but that means its going to cost another practo just to not look bad
>>
Anyone who recommends Wugushi isn't your friend, he is probably trying to kill you.
Be safe and stay vigilant.
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>>180963820
>perfect build with high damage and self-sustain for autistic solo players who can't be arsed to socialize
I wonder why too
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>>180964725
She self inserts as the highlander you naive dummy
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>>180964573
A dildo?
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>>180964725
It's her character
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>>180964573
if you play as a boy you should just nys
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>>180965017
>highlander1 barb3
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>>180965181
>dopplenigger
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>>180965017
>high1barb3
did she rerolled to the true highlander and superior HIGH3barb1 yet
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>>180964914
Where do I find this?
>>
Will the pets scale with m.atk from gems in the future or was it just the weapons base damage? Was this tested at all?
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>>180962914
I've noticed this with my 327 normal penguin too. Not sure what it is, but I think it getting incapacitated somehow refills its stamina sometimes. Drains really slowly too, haven't needed to feed it in months.
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>>180965210
I don't even play doppel and I know Barb is bad. I'm the best Wugushi on Klaipeda, don't you dare talk down to me, kid.
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>>180965017
Dopplfag
COULD SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THIS FUCKING TING IS SO HATED AND PRAISED AT THE SAME TIME
>>
I made a ThaumaFF2 and I feel like I'm missing something. I unironically kill twice as fast on my SR with a base camp set up.
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>>180965598
strongest but also the most expensive build out there
whale class, who the fuck likes whales
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>>180966042
>most expensive
Not really, a class that uses 1h + pistol will cost literally double and not even be close to as effective.
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>>180966193
build the wall
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>>180960845
>>180960937
>>180961162
>yfw tos is steadily getting better
year 3 will be golden age and it'll all come apart by year 5
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>>180966193
>Traducir del japonés
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>>180966193

>traducir

hola amigo
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>>180966184
shut up stupid, let the autists rage endlessly
its hilarious
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>>180966486
>>180966439
>>180966331
Uhmm, why did he delete it?
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>>180966184
It's not just about the weapon autismo.
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>>180966628
Doppel has no r8 enhance attribute to buy, c3 skills are all shit damage.
Fencer is more expensive
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>>180966620

not sure why, there's literally nothing wrong in being a amigo in this specific general. 70% are brs/pinoy/latino
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>>180966628
What? You mean the attributes? Literally every class has attributes they have to invest in, and even in that regard Doppel doesn't have it that bad. You have shit like Mergen, Inquisitor, and Falconer that need 20m silver for a single attribute before they even start investing in the +0.5% damage increase attributes. The only reason Doppel is more expensive than others right now is because they're C3, so they actually have a lot of skills. Hell, Fencer is more expensive because they need 1h + high socket number offhand + a billion attributes, and their BiS weapon isn't an Orange, it's a fucking Lolipan weapon.

You can even bring Hackapelle into the discussion, where they need an Xbow + 1h Sword + Pistol to use their skills.
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>>180967450
>Hacka
They don't. Hackas go with fletcher3 so they don't use their melee skills. And Pistol Shot is garbage.
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>>180967450
Inquisitor needing 20m silver for a single attribute before they even start investing in the +0.5% damage increase attributes
what attribute are you talking about
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>>180967993
>Inquisitor: Darkness Resistance
>Inquisitor: Burn
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
I wonder which one could it be
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>>180967993

burn attribute
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>>180967993
Burn
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>>180967868
Why the fuck are you taking hackapelle if you don't use anything it has?
The mount?
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>>180968206
Because it's much better than Mergen.
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>>180967868
What did he mean by this?
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>>180968451
>98
LOL

But yeah, anything is better than Mergen.
>>
> Plague's Black steam attribute requiring 265+ milion silver to 100%
How do people ebven manage to get that ammount of silver?
>>
how good is burn, post a webm of it please
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>>180968608
rmt

captcha tax close
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>>180965597
No I'm the best Wugushi on Klaipeda, noob.
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>>180968564
Somebody, stop him!
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>>180968608
Normal players don't go to 100. It costs as much to go from 90 to 100 as from 1 to 90
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>>180968690
Prove it.
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>>180968608

no one max those attributes, lol

I mean, it's reaches a situation where you get more damage investing on your other rotation spells. 70% for r8 skills are okay. 80% for r7, max rank 1/2, 90% , 90% rank 6. And that's assuming you already have a stage 8 orange or better
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>>180968734
So? The 9th toppest build is NECRO3.

Mergen is shit. Deal with it.
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>>180968608
Wrong

and >>180968791
>>
any tip to get my meme pirate costume asap?
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>>180968936
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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>>180968903
sorry for the question but what's a stage 8 orange?
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>>180969041
No. You can only get it after 10days.
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>>180968614
Burn just deals your auto attacks at your aspd, with no aoe limit
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>>180969043
Retards are too dumb to go Fletcher Hacka. They stick to brainless things like Mergen.
Hacka is too complex for your average bowtarded tostard.


And official build popularity ranking is not a fact for sure.
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>>180969058
>stage 8
Transcendence Stage
>orange
Lv315 Orange color/quality Weapon

endgame gear
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>>180969151
Do you spend all of the boards? Or would I get the title and the Corsair C3 outfit with 180?

>>180969058
A level 315 orange (highest quality) weapon with Transcendence level 8
>>
>>180969058

There are 5 weapon tiers, white being the most simple, then blue -> purple -> orange -> legendary.

The top tier weapons for most characters now are the 315 orange ones, in this example of the plague doctor, the weapon of choice would be the Heart of Glory for the int version or the Skull Smasher for the SPR priest memers. Stage = transcendence level stage. Transcendence is the process of upgrading a weapon with blessed gems it can go up to stage 10. anything past stage 5 is a pain to reach but it's the strongest dps improvement one can invest
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>>180969335
Okay so you have nothing to say about why Mergen is bad. Got it.
>>
>>180969538
thank you
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>>180969510
>Do you spend all of the boards?
100 for costume. they'll be gone
180 total for Title
>and the Corsair C3 outfit
your dumb
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>>180969538
Dont agree with your last statement
Ever since transcend + enhance split there will be a point where enhancing your weapon with diamon anvils is more rewarding than transcend
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>>180969335
Hacka requires you to invest into 2 weapons and give up half your damage against flying mobs, which is fucking huge.
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>>180969745
That's the only thing you lose: the bow mastery
You gain tons of other things though
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>>180969745

mounts don't use bows anyway, most skills you'd use with a bow demount you
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>>180969883
Such as?
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>>180969945
Hola amigo, you fixed it!
>>180969952
Stop replying to him, he's just shitposting.
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>>180969952
You need to use your brain a bit.
Megen's Anti-Air attribute isn't everything.
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>>180970235
So, what do you gain from using a crossbow?
You didn't answer what was asked
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>>180969719
no ur dumb shut up
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>>180970328
>So, what do you gain from using a crossbow?
Well think a bit. What do you gain from not using a two-handed weapon?
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>>180968119
>She isn't maxing darkness resistance for when the new resistance=damage accessories come out
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>>180970509
Nothing of value.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLzDpOSW638

ok. I think that I felt for the doppelmeme again and I'll regret it.

Look at this fencer DPS. Fight starts at 2:05
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>>180970815
>no comparable doppel video
k
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>>180970453
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>>180970961

found this one but there's two doppel and it's a clusterfuck of hits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U67Mf27VSWU
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>>180971379
That doppel is also much less geared than the fencer
Plus his build is a bad meme
>>
>>180971510

Yeah, he's using a gale slasher. Care to share with us a better doppel video/channel?

Is barb doppel this bad? Mine's highlander anyway
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>investing in 2 weapons is bad
just you wait until they release a real dual wielding class and it happens to be the one you like the most
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>Waiting in mission queue
>Total waiting queue: 1
Is nobody playing today?
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>>180972365
didn't you hear, the game died
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>>180971953
No thats the problem
You never see any good geared doppel make a video to compare
For all I know doppel could do the same sick dps or better but we will never know until we compare to similar doppels
I like doppels theoretical numbers more though
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>>180972219
>dual staves
>dual muskets
>dual shields
>dual big ass cannons
I dont know man
>>
>>180969538
is there a correct order for socketing/refining/transcending (since it seems all of them can break your shit)?
>>
>>180972546
1. socket
2. anvil
3. trans
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>>180972526
>Dual shields
>Dual pistols
>Dual spears
I wouldn't mind these
I'd also like a class that uses staves as melee weapons
>>
>>180972546

well, save enough potential for the gem slots always and at least 1 to reroll awakenings with stones (with 0 potential you can't use awakening stones but they might change it later).

After that, it's up to you if you want to gamble your luck to the glorious +16 or better.

+11 is a realistic sweet spot with some luck/diamond anvils or in a worst case scenario, golden anvils.
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>>180972784
i'd say sockets first

>just one more.. this anvil will success
>end up without max sockets
greed and rng my man
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hmmmm...
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>>180973953

I want to buy daino, stigma and zalciai from pardoner shops!
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>>180973953
>krivis scrolls
>miko charms
>divine might for something
>change memes
???
>>
If I put a corsair in a party with a necro, will the skeletons pillage bees?
>>
>>180974542
Yeah
>>
>>180974580
WRONG?
>>
>>180974634
?
Pillage is triggered by any summons
Zombies too
just try it yourself
>>
>>180974149
>buy stigma
>die to buff the monsters around you
???
>>
I want to be a healslut, which build should i follow?
>>
>>180976003
Cleric>Priest3>Cleric2>Kabba2
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>>180976003
Cleric3>diev3>miko>taoist
hide behind your statues and dance for the party
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>>180976083
>>180976178
Which one is better and why?
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>>180976003
cleric 3 priest 2 diev 1 filler taoist
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been a while since i played. What's the consensus on Dex? last time i played, I was a sword3 > barb > corsair 3> nobi. I just changed my stats but never got around to putting them in.
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>>180976003
>>180976083
>>180976178
Cleric Priest2 Cleric Diev3 Taoist

Migo is a dead meme!
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>>180977714
I play with HL3 instead of Corsair3 and 30~50 DEX is a good amount to use your rotation as fast as you can.
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>>180977714
0 or 100 if you're not going to focus on AA. Getting to 200 or close to it is easy with DEX gears/monstrance scrolls.
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What if Kim cut the cooldown of Needle Blow, Throw Gu Pot, and Wugong Gu in half?
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>>180976675
Preference
cleric has heal, cure, a skill that makes you invincible, a skill that cuts your damage taken in half, a skill that increases all skills by one level, and can go invisible to remove aggro
priest has resurrection, another heal skill, and some damage buffs
kabba can increase hp of one party member, massively, and another useful buff

diev has statues that lower cooldown, sp cost, can stop enemies completely, and has invincibility buff
miko can extend your statue time infinitely, has a skill to dance that gives party members in range more damage, and has a skill to increase deployment skills by 1 level.
taoist can make your party invisible, increase lightning damage, increase element resistance, and can do poor damage.
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power of the GOD thunderer

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41333666h.152535.233c4f5a65.1f4f5a65.55

>tfw no more Zaibas vs Frost Cloud arguments
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>>180979128
zaibas doesn't even work most of the times, sometimes I put 2 circles below a fucking pack and one of them takes at least 5 secs to activave, sometimes the other just ends after its duration without hitting anything at all
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>>180979128
How can Elementalists even compete with such POWER?
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>>180976003
ultimate healslut Cleric3>Paladin3>Priest2
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>>180979128
>>180979356
>>180979415
kriviz wuz kangz
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>>180934449
I was actually thinking about this, they'd eventually sell it. Let's hope it's just test stuff rather than cash shop.

Pretty meh if they go with cash shop. To be honest I'd probably buy it, doing the shinobi, rc, chap and miko quests is enough for one to realize how shit are those quests. Even worse because some of them were really underwhelming (RC and Chap pre-buffs).
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>>180980201
Chap quest at least is quick, compared to the others.
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>>180980329
i almost uninstalled b/c of miko quest
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how is shinobi?
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If I join the guild will I make friends? I'm so lonely
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>>180979356
Same. Krivis got shafted the hardest, before they had this whole damage due to "multihit is power" and it sat on having a pretty fucking ridiculous R1 to R6~ spell. Then you'd get another power spike at Taoist like Murmillo. Then they gut Multihit spells, then they buff every other spell, then they gut taoist and then they gut the spell functionality. For a class that was already on it's way to become ignored due to Zalciai nerf and Melstis nerf, it really makes little sense.

Hell, I thoght maybe they wanted it to go back to "being a healer" and that's why they made Aukuras heal % rather than fixed amount, but they reverted it before it even reached live. I can't even say that Stigma is good or bad because despite being clunky and fixed, it is a decent buff nonetheless, maybe not a 10 point buffs but really the only thing worth after all the nerfs.
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>>180980780
You won't make friends in the big guilds anon, most of the ones in the op aren't the most friendly.
If you want to make a friendly guild you should start one, even cute doesn't feel very welcoming anymore.
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>>180980780
Actually no, only if you play with capyba.
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>>180981060
>cute doesn't feel very welcoming anymore
This meme again
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>>180981318
It's not a meme
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>>180981318
I'm in the guild, I didn't call it a clique, don't be a retard.
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>>180981318
>people keep repeating similar opinions of your guild
ITS MEME GUYS NO PLS NO MUH DISCORD MUH CLIQUE
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>>180976083
>>180976178
>>180977390
>>180978002
>>180979717
Can't decide. I've heard bad things about Miko tho
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>>180981060
I'm not the best at maintaining guilds and all that fun stuff, I wouldn't know where to start. I just want to find people to talk/play with that aren't toxic kiddies.

>>180981163
Who? I'm new around here.
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>>180981663
You don't really need to push the guild, just form it and mention it here if you want friends from the thread.

capyba is a guild leader in the euro server, people shitpost his name all the time, just ignore the name mostly.
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It's time! Post characters and their theme!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LibQxS3RmY
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Futureproof and cute aren't cutting it. New guild when? It should be anti-discord.
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>>180982082
I intended to make one but nobody supported it.
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>>180981971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPAOHUKwT1I
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>>180981869
>>180982082
Whoever makes a guild will be shitposted on 24/7
Why the fuck would anyone want that
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>>180982707
nah only your guild because was shit
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>>180982904
Wrong.
Each single guild.

or maybe not the literally who br server who's, but whatever
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Why doesn't the tosbase show videos of the skills anymore?
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>>180982151
Huh?
I dont remember anyone ever making a guild on tosg without getting responses
unless you're DeliciousCake
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>>180982082
>anti-discord
not muh true communism guild
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Does someone know if demon lords that have a 16 hour spawn cycle spawn 16 hours after server maintenance?
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>>180983042
nah you are wrong, now fuck off with your normie shit guild loser.
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>>180981971

https://youtu.be/yhSVeMupag4
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>>180983345
no u
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>>180983185
It was a few weeks ago I posted that I was nearly at R7 and was going to turn my bad character into a templar and asked for guild name suggestions and if anyone was interested, no serious responses or interest.
I asked a few days later, same deal, with someone posting cuck for a while.
I'm not the person you posted, and I didn't use a name.
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>>180983681
Why would you even listen to the shitposters here
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>>180983681
You should do what you want. Dont give to many shits about shitposters on the tosg.
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I didn't mean to start a fight about guilds in here, I only wanted friends.
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>>180983810
I didn't, shitposting was the only response I received though.
Why would I have tried making one if nobody wanted one?
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>>180984025
Then get some, join a guild if you want or whatever. Stop listening to our retarded shitposters.
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>>180984138
Make one if you want?
Why the fuck would you make a guild for a few strangers on a imageboard (if you dont want). Many here dont even play or are fucking retards.
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>>180983928
>>180984231
>>180984406
I like this poster.
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>>180984406
But you don't get it.
The entire reason I'd want to have a guild is so the people who do play and aren't bad can have a reason to play and have fun.
I don't want to start a guild just to have a dilgele farm and another name under my name.
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>>180984756
Making a guild won't make you have friends or be popular, faggot. You'll still be a worthless annoying clingy piece of shit.
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>>180986972
>Completely missing the point
Good job, I expect nothing less
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Tags help new players get an idea of what to expect from the game
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>>180982082
Discord is #1, kys
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>>180988029
>Dating-sim
>Memes
>Nudity
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>>180988029
>Dating Sim
Most accurate thing on the list

>>180984406
What server?
I'm in a nontosg guild but I want to have more fun.
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>>180988029
>Nudity
hmmmmmmm
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>>180988243
BIG FAT
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>>180988376
Thanks for reminding me I'll never get that hat.
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>>180988393
KABBATAT TATS
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What music y'all grinding to?
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>>180988771
>grinding
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>>180988564
Thanks for reminding me that they removed over half the hats and all of the fun toys for no reason.
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>>180988771
>still playing this game
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>>180988564
Crown Headband?
Was it ever in-game?
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>>180988620
give me the original pic anon. I need it
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>>180989245
A lot of hat/recipes used to be rewards from the missions until it was replaced with junk materials.
Most likely yes it was.
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we must warn them
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>>180989123
>no reason

ehehehehe....
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>>180989245
Probably from party missions from CBT. So many nice hats and they just put the same ugly things in the gacha. Fuck IMC.
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>>180979415
>WHY CANT MY CLERIC BEAT A PURE DPS CLASS AND HAVE HEALS AND TONS OF DAMAGE IMMUNITY WITH A RANK 1 CLASS WAAAH WAAAH WAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>180989459
Literally WORSE than every bullshit and one hit killing skills this game ever had.
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>>180980780
lol, are you retarded? fucking give talt or fuck off
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>>180989459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eHOthk2-a4

That being said, I'd love if less shit knocked me down or if knock down was reduced. Hell I'd be fine if I was launched backwards, rolled over and was ready in less than a second. That fucking Siauliai boss is specially annoying.
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>>180982082
>people still use an image you made over 8 months ago
face it, can't kill discord. it has ruined online games forever
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>>180989793
>I HOPE MY SHITPOSTING HELPS IMC LOOK THE OTHER WAY AND IGNORE THE FACT MY CLASS HAS ALMOST 6000% SKILL FACTOR IN AN AOE SKILL WITH 45 SECOND COOLDOWN WHICH IS ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE STRONGER THAN ANY OTHER RANK 6 SKILL
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>>180990020
They only need to add cooldown to bosses' skills. It's really annoying when they start using the same screen knockdown skill over and over again.
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>>180990020
useless videos and 'patch'
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>>180989793
>Using retard level images and bitching about an already useless class
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>>180984025
Lots of shitposting tonight. Why not just ask to join one of the guilds and form your own opinion of it? If it's not the social experience you were looking for, don't hesitate to look for another guild that better suits your preferences
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Only two tokens on Klai's market
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>>180990429
>>180990058
>falling for bait so hard
cleric players everyone
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>>180990904
>falling for my counter bait
thanks for the (You), eleshitter
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You can backmask-res bosses now?
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>>180990968
>eleshitter
lol? you can't just put "shitter" behind anything and expect it to actually mean anything
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>>180990904
thank (you) too
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>>180990217
Bosses need a whole overhaul, for a game that has a boss every corner, the bosses are really more of a chore than any fun to fight.

>muh simon says
No, I just want something interesting. This fucking game had so little interest in making bosses interesting they were just going to give each one of them shmup attacks and those fucking totems. Some spells are interesting (poata, mineloader), some are bad (pointless invuln without miko/fletcher to dispel), some are a nuisance (boss jumping around like on fucking meth three times on a row) and some are fucking annoying as all hell (knockdown chaining).

I don't enjoy how 'movie' and formulaic other MMORPG boss fights are, but I'd sure love if more were Harpeia than the fucking Sialiai tree.
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>>180991027
no
you got that other ress skill for that

>>180991043
baited again, anonshitter
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>>180991535
>you got that other ress skill for that
A chrono backmasked the siauliai golem and it died twice. I didn't notice if it actually gave double exp though.
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>>180991670
that is Reincarnate. Does give xp and drops.
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>>180991964
literally how does this skill even work? i must have tried 50+ times and it has never spawned a 2nd boss
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>when she judges your dps
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>>180991964
Nah something weird happened. There was clearly the backmasking bubble thing and the boss literally died twice, on the same spot, without respawning. Could be just the animation though.
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>>180970961
There's no comparable doppel video because doppel can't compare.
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>>180992273
what about you bend over and judge THIS
*unzips*
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>>180990802
>mfw I finish unlocking miko
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>>180992273
>check her "dps"
>can't even fill a B-cup
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>>180989283
I second this
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What swordie builds do people use for farming now? Something like sword3 hop1 corsair3 shinobi?
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>>180993554
I dunno but I'd personally rather take pelt than hop if it's just for farming.
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>>180993554
That's a good build but you can swap out hop1 for highlander1 or barb1 as well. Or even pelt.
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>>180993554
>farming
>no pelt
>no doppel
lol
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>>180994215
>Doppel
>On a corsair farmer
l o l
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>>180994464
>calls it a farmer
>doesn't have all the farming classes
next you're gonna show me your thaum farmer without chrono
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>>180994048
>>180994052
You can also replace shinobi with fencer if it's strictly for farming quickly.
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>>180994052
>>180994048
I'm just planning on farming orange mats with it. Pelt1 is probably a good idea. I was thinking sword2 pelt1 hop1 even, but I'm not sure if I'm gimping myself by not having double slash and better buffs.

>>180994651
Fencer1? Am I being bamboozled here or is it really that good now?
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>>180995332
Definitely take double slash, as it can be cloned by shinobi skills. I have a shit weapon and it can still get me #1 in most dungeons and missions if all of my clones hit
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>>180995332
You absolutely are gimping yourself without double slash especially if you stat as Shinobi.
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>>180995332
Fencer1 (and Barb1) are the best one circle wonder for swordsman utility in builds where they fit, the former being any farming Corsair build.
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>>180995332
Fencer 1 yes.
It's genuinely good for farming with corsair and somewhat viable in general.
Sept is a very fast 16 hits for pillaging, plus hexen dropper
Lunge and coquille give damage bonus to most of your attacks if you ever need more damage
Plus a cute costume.

Shinobi is still really powerful, the skills it properly copies will eat up almost any boss.
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>>180994651
>fencer
kek
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>>180995720
>>180995771
>>180995332
Remember though that rapiers innately have low durability, so you might be repairing a lot.
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>>180995541
>>180995526
Figured as much. Would I still care about it if I went the fencer1 route? maybe something like sword1 pelt1 barb2 corsair3 fencer1?

>>180995771
>cute costume
You know how to get me excited, anon. I guess since I don't really care about boss dps this might be a good choice.
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>>180995934
You can't take double slash on that build, being a sword3 skill
Double slash is a good skill in general now, but not as necessary if you're going fencer instead of shinobi.
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>>180989283
>>180993531
ask healmage to let you take a picture of her
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>>180988620
Damn Jews trying to stray me from the Lord's path!
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>>180996241
Don't you think cleave, swashbuckling, and finestra would be worth it? I'm not really sure what sort of rotation I'd be using with this build since it's the first time I'll be playing a swordie past rank 4.

>>180995917
That's kind of annoying but I guess I don't really mind. I'm not short on silver or anything.
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>>180997070
Cleave only gives bonuses to slash attacks, most of your skills aren't going to benefit from it, the crit rate is nice though.
Finestra only works with a spear, won't work well if you're going fencer too.
Swashbuckling requires you to be hold a shield when you use it, so you'll need both a dagger/pistol and a shield to switch between if you go pelt, not that big of an issue though

Really for a corsair farmer you're trying to get as many hits in as short of a timeframe as possible, pillaging happens on hits so you'll want to be using multihit skills with it.
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>>180982082
I legit cant think of any MMO guild/clan not using Discord
1 or 2 years and company like Blizzard will add to their game "Share on Discord" options so you don't have to alt+tab for upload a screenshot
Discord has become core component of online game, you can't have gaming without Discord somehwere
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>>180997512
but swashbuckling works with daggers,tho i no idea if it does with pistols
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>>180997793
My bad, daggers yes, though if you're going corsair3 pistol shot becomes a good addition to your skills
So it still stands, somewhat
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Wugushi?
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>>180998183
Wugushit!
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>>180997512
Forgot about the spear thing. Stabbing might still be good but hop1 is probably out with fencer instead of shinobi. I guess it comes to cleave vs cartar stroke vs swash for rank filler.
What about sword1 high2 pelt1? If multihits are the name of the game, wouldn't highlander2 be a better pick for a farming build? Moulinet hits 5 times.
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>>180998374
Don't bully the Wugushi, we're a bit slow.
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>>180998450
That's fine, just give the build some thought for now
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>>180998450
moul has a longass cooldown though
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>>180999383
Ah, you're right.
>>180999251
Will do! Thanks for all the help.
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Is this build any good?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411222cfh.1a213a435561.11213f45516a719aa1.15243145.153545.1355617185
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>>181000475
at being shit
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>>181001510
Get a room
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>>181000475
If you're going FS might as well axe chaplain and go krivis 1 instead,
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>>180988376
>>180988029
Well there are some technically naked things
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57759
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/41258
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/154039
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>>181005746
It's all statues anon, that barely counts, if it does at all
Not to mention the only way to actually see that stuff is if you look in the files or use something to zoom in very close
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>>181006147
Two of those are alive, even if their body is rocks. Don't discriminate.
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>>181005746
>Shardstatues are actually harpies
What the fuck, I thought they were just birds, they're really ugly harpies too.
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>>181006509
>they're really ugly harpies too.
So normal harpies then. Don't tell me you're some monstergirl fag, let alone forgot that monster means _monster_.
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>>180983681
On Klaipeda, we recently went from having an unstable situation with 4 guilds with too few players to support them to having 2 mainstream guilds and one basically waiting for rank 9, and a slightly less ded population after the rework. Since bullies merged, nobody's filling the alternative guild with blackjack and hookers niche now. But you can't make such a guild by just posting in the thread and waiting for anons to pile in, since that requires being a big main thread guild. It's necessary to find people in game who want an alternative, gather a small core, and then start a guild with them.

>>180990049
>>180997590
What should be happening is games having good chat systems of their own (including out of game chat and redundancy in case of server failure), but for some reason every online game's built in chat sucks. Somebody needs to make a set of libraries and servers for devs to build off of like how they made reusable forums and reusable engines.
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>>181006580
Yeah normal harpies are ugly, that doesn't go against what I said. Besides, this game also has Harpeia.
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>>180983681
dude I suck at coming up with guild names I tried okay
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>>181006473
Next you're going to tell me golems have feelings too.
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>>181007027
but everything have feelings anon
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uguushi buffs when
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>>181009450
cannon buff soon?
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>>180984025
Join cute. Its friendly.
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>>181012213
no, it's not you fag
I won't allow to join anyone without proper ERP interview
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>>180988620
Seriously someone please sauce.
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Any bot cleaning service in Tenet 1 at the moment?

both channel 1 and 2 are infested.
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>>181012407
what are you gonna do when you get it
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>>181012694
How do bot cleaners work? Do you just cast Change over and over until you get a super strong mob or is there something more complicated about it?
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>>181013059
going to print it out and hang it on the wall.
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>>181013297
https://nijie.info/view.php?id=193629
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>>181009450
Dragoon buffs when?
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>>181013389
nice
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>been trying to get the Flower Branch for 3 weeks now
>no drops
>brings buddy in for the first time he hasn't even explored the map yet
>gets it

Hello darkness my old friend ;_;

I guess that battle bracelet is a consolation since I did steal the kill from a bot.
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>>181013170
Basically.
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>>181013987
>Buddy wasn't enough of a buddy to just give it to you
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>>181015072
He was actually, I just declined it because I know what it's worth but he did say he will do the daily runs with me now till I get one.
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>>181013987
i was at like 200 tries before i stopped trying.
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>>181015597
Good friendship.
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>>181015841
That is harsh man.

>>181015870
He also gave me his Migantis staff the other day when he suddenly felt the urge to drop his fencer and sell all it's gears to make that 1 pract staff. Saved me 1.5m.
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What's so special about glass mole cards? Just got 2 from siauliai mission
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Is there a 'best' class?
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>>181017191
>Increasing your base patk up to 80% with 8 10* glass moles, which then goes into skill modifiers

>>181017373
Best as in one that can do everything better than others all by itself, no.
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>>181017483
Good. I was hoping there were no balancing changes while I was away.
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hmmmm
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>>181017483
yeah but doesn't it trigger after you use a potion?
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>>181017990
Yes and it only lasts 4 (FOUR) seconds which is pure kuso.
But I guess moles are better than ellas in most cases.
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>wake up
>server is closed
Nice fucking game.
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>>181017990
Some consumables, such as Varnalesa, are easy to farm and trigger the buff regardless. But normal SP pots are cheap anyways, and it's not hard to time it with your rotation/cooldowns.

>>181018103
5 seconds (they still haven't changed the desc), but enough time to get your strong burst skills out.
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>>181018249
>Silute
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>>181018249
>wake up
>server is open
Nice fucking game.
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Do I need to cast aspersion for aspergillium to be effective?
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>>181018894
Have you tried turning it off and on again
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Are there pardoner's aspergillum/last rites scrolls?
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>>181017912
>Statue of Mara
What's it's effect?
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>>181017912
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>>181019247
walk around it a few times and some talt pops out
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>>1810199247
Rub it for mercury
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>>181018249
Yeah, Silute has less uptime because you're supposed to be building that wall.
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They really need to fix the drop down menu bug. Switching channels or selling shit on the market is a pain in the ass.
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>>181019123
same question
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>>181020346
>try to change channels
>have to chase the drop down menu all over the screen

How does it even move? Why?
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>>181020467
It gets anchored to some random shit on the screen, often pets and summons for me.
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>>181013987
i got mine on the day i joined comfy
and some oldfags died trying to get it
just never give up unlike those oldfags
never loose hope
im currently trying to get bear mask and mirtis helm and wont be giving up
pic unrelated
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>>181021573
I got a Mirtis Helm on my AFK necro account that I don't even bother botting on. You want it? It's on Klai.
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>>181021981
im on telsai...
well thanks anyways anon
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>even fucking druid builds people are going spr priest 3 due to blessing and not suffering transform sp cost
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>>181022609
Inc Priest nerfs and Wugushi buffs.
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>>181021981
Hmm... I do want. Free, right?
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>check korea for popular taoist builds
>the most popular is c2>pr2>diev2>miko>taoist
is ausrine really that shit now?
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>>181023139
No, Migo is just overrated weebshit. Drop Migo for Diev3 and the build is perfect.
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>>181022609
Spr Druid is one of the worst builds in the game and misses the point of Druid entirely.
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>>181023123
Not for you, scum! It was for the person that actually wanted it.
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>>181023330
Indeed, it makes Druid from bad and useless to simply bad. If you want to be JUST a bad dps, why pick druid? There are far more fun options of being a bad dps in the game.
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>>181023186
>tons of players say this is the best build
>but my SINGLE PERSONAL opinion is better
pathetic
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>>181023356
Rude.
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>>181023591
>implying tons of players even play this game
>personal opinion
pathetic
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>>181023591
>>181023630
that is not best build...
either go diev3 or dont go diev2
so you can either go cleric2diev3miko
or cleric2priest2/3
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>>181023820
it's your word against the whole korean community m8 :^)
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>>181023941
but why go taoist? it's shit
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>a2 qs3 reiter3 still top 18 and climbing in korea
nice popular builds you got there
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>>181024026
AFK floors in ET.
>>181023943
>whole Korean community
so like 10 players?
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>>181024026
im not commenting on taoist just diev and miko
i personally wont go miko unless diev
i have cleric2diev3mikopd2
dps wise cleric2priest1sadhu3pd2 would be better
you could get away with cleric2priest2sadhu3tao
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>>181024252
>afk floors in ET
could you explain this to a new player?
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>>181024305
Is Sadhu DPS really that good? It seems so mediocre. I thought it was just something you took with PD2 for Prana and Explosion.
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>>181024305
what about the chap pd meme build? it's top 5
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>>181024348
End-game dungeon floors where the whole objective is to just survive with all 5 members alive for 5minutes.

Taoist gets an aoe cloaking skill that can be placed on the ground that lasts for 6 minutes.
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>>181024473
woah, seems very powerfull
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>>181024445
yeah but do I go chap inquisitor or chap PD? can you plz bring out the 38 page spreadsheet analysis on breaking wheel?
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>>181024026
taoist can afk floors in ET and also boost melee damage by 50%
>>181024348
there are these floors in ET (which is the most endgame-y dungeon you'll get in ToS) in which you just have to survive. A taoist can use dark sight to put all party members in stealth so you don't have to fight the mobs, just stand in there.
I know it doesn't sound that useful but for something you need to do twice every day getting a 5 minutes break instead of having to run around like an idiot is a pretty good thing.
Also, the floors in which you can afk are 4F (not sure about this one since it has mobs that cast reversi?), 9F, 14F, 19F, 24F, 29F, 34F and 39F
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>>181024574
kek, are you trollin 24/7 on this board?
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>>181024617
seems like taoist is one of the most useful builds for endgame
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>>181024870
It's okay. Hopefully Tao C2 gets something decent or it'll just be another 1 circle wonder like most of the Cleric tree.
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>>181024870
a full support cleric build is extremely useful in ET, because you can only bring one cleric that fulfills all the supportive functions of cleric. I personally went cleric 3 priest 2 diev 1 oracle 1 taoist. Cleric 3 has extra heals and guardian saint is like a pain barrier for your carry (with limited hit count). Priest 2 has all the good stuff in cleric minus the buffs which you don't really need. Diev 1 has laima which is really great. Oracle 1 is mostly for counterspell which helps against some solmiki mechanics. And I already explained what tao does.
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>>181023421
Druid is just one of those hybrid classes that also requires investment that nobody wants to play since it can't solo carry ET but it doesn't have as much utility as full support options so it has to do damage to justify its presence. For raw damage to support ratio it's a great class.
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>>181025204
I hope world boss revamp comes soon. It's so sad that all the builds are based around how they perform in ET right now.
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soon
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>>181024421
its pretty good
ABE dot and possession is pretty strong with prana, oob is only used for ABE though

>>181024445
i dont trust auto attack builds personally
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>>181025839
>doppel
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>>181025946
>i dont trust auto attack builds personally
Why?
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>>181024163
It's actually agood build on ktos
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>>181026197
>>181024163
does running shot stack with limacon?
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>>181026312
Not on itos.

Not on ktos either
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>pet exp bonus event
>don't have enough character slots for a pet
>even if I did I'd rather not waste one on a useless piece of shit

can we get a good event please?
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T-Tiddies....
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>>181026609
we NEED those maid costumes on iToS NOW.
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>>181026532
N E V E R
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>>181026645
Yeah, fuck C3 costumes, just add more pathetic weeb shit
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>>181026645
we need forest fairy, i've been waiting forever for it ;-;
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>>181026086
i played qs3 as first character
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where does cafrisun spawn..?
All info about it seems to be pretty outdated
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>>181027609
man you are such a brainlet
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Which one is better for leveling lads?
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>>181028369
>>181027991
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>>181027609
Right here, if you aren't find it its is because someone is farming it.
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>>181028369
make archers great again
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>>181028369
maga is better but harder to craft
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>>181028567
those nignogs...
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>>181028567
so now it has a spwan timer of 30 mins intead of 5 right?
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>>181028704
Viper is pretty hard to craft.
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Does Aspegillum grant another line of attack numbers?
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>>181029107
Yeah.
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>>181025839
how did you manage the leafnut tails, I just can't fucking.... doesn't help that the map is perma-camped by bots either
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>>181029521
yes
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>>181030137
Not him but i farmed 15 tails for Aspana in less than 800 kills
Pretty comfy
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>>181030272
even with thaum that's nearly impossible
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>>181030206
I just tried. Casted aspersion/sacrament/blessing, one autoattck, 2 lines. Then casted aspergillum and still got 2 lines of atk with one autoattack.
Am I doing something wrong or what?
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>>181030357
>Not playing Corsair and getting crazy Pillage luck
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>>181030272
Very nice, I can't do that. Might make a Corsair after all in the future. Any build / stat suggestions? All I've seen is Shinobi variants. With Hoplite. Or Doppel variants, with DPE.
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>>181030460
when casting only aspersion+aspergillum it did hit twice. but when casting sacrament too it didn't add a hit to the 2 already given by sacrament.
but it did a 3 line attack when I didn't cast blessing but only sacrament, aspersion and aspergillum
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>>181030809
>>181030460
some stupid shit going on in this thread
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Who do I speak to, to be invited to the Silute guild?
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guys should I play PD doctor or Inquisitor?
explain why in details and provide a build and stat distribution
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>>181031104
Lolipan
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>>181031081
Let me reprase.
I just got aspergillum as a skill. have both lvl 15 aspersion and blessing.
The thing is when I cast aspersion+sacrament+aspergilluim, I get 3 lines of damage from my auto attacks
as soon as i cast blessing the damage lines go back to 2 instead of being 3.
I can't understand why
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>>181031232
Shut up Lolipan is white.
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>>181031248
are you going pd2 or inquisitor tho?
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>>181031227
that's not funny anymore, the guy left like 4 threads ago
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So what's the secret of reaching +11 without fail?
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>>181031382
All the retarded questions about attack lines/carisun/priest3/chap skills are from the same braindead autist
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>>181031414
fate manipulation
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>>181031376
fuck off
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>>181031471
how do you know
>inb4 Do you have the evidence to support your statement?
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>>181031601
Because it's the same absolutely dumb style of questions.
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>>181031232
"name doesn't exist"
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>>181031776
It's spelled with an E
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>>181031679
oh hello there sherlock
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>>181031914
I'm not even that guy, but you don't have to be Sherlock to see how fucking stupid all your posts are, the way you space things out, and how you never use punctuation or capitol letters.

Now fucking tell me if you're going to go PD2 or Inquisitor and link me your fucking skill build.
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>>181032069
>capitol letters
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how are you guys still playing this
what makes you tick
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>>181032069
Still haven't decided :^)
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411222cee.1a29355561.1f213f4551627591.153545.152a355575

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222c11g.1f29355a6175.1f213f4551627591.153545.41647585
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>>181032293
>what makes you tick
Anime tiddies
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>>181032293
ERPing with the cute tosgirls gets me off
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>>181032293
I keep lying to myself that it will get better
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>>181032293
just killing time till new content is out in PoE
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>>181032713
but they just released the necromancer class
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>>181032823
Are there bees in PoE?
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>>181032823
i mean the new acts etc out of beta

not playing something that will get wiped
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>>181032983
>>181032945
PoE doesn't even have classes, and Diablo 3 is the one that released necromancer.
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Haven't played in months, started a cleric, gimme a cool and fun support build to play
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>>181033556
i am aware of his/(your) attempt at humor and processed it
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>>181033569
chaplain into pd2 inquisitor
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does the joint penalty earth attribute interact with cafrisun?
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>>181034861
yeah
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is scout required for rogue to not be 100% shit
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What can I farm to make money in this game? Got a ff2 and bored right now, want to see what I could farm to make some money. Lvl 290 with shitty gear
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>>181036437
Necrofarm and go play something else.
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>>181036658
Whats a good game to play while you wait for your 5 necro accounts to rake in silver?
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>>181036658
What kind of money do you make afking?
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>>181036903
There aren't any. I usually let my necrofarmers go while wage slaving. If I don't have to work I just lay in bed wishing I was was never born.
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>farm 1 hour 30 minutes
>get 0 loot as thauma
>all 4 channels with 1 to 3 people
>check them
>all people in the channels are guildless
>all of them DPS classes
>most likely most of them bots

GOOD
FUCKING
PSEUDO
RETARDED
SYSTEM
YOU
GOT
HERE

DEFEND THIS GARBAGE
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>>181037195
>he's still farming when the DPK removal patch is on ktest
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>>181037195
You wouldn't get anything anyway.
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>>181037195
You would also get 0 drops from a pure RNG system
Dont know what your problem is
You want higher droprates?
Well we're getting them
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>>181037195
paging angry math nerds to explain to him how this system jost werks
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>>181037295
Just trying to make some silver before all DPK mats drop in price eternally

Maybe artilonium will spike in price again due to the demand of orange weapons and their recipes
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>>181037295
>ktest
Explain?
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>>181037323
>You would also get 0 drops from a pure RNG system
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>>181037778
Must suck being so stupid
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>>181037460
i gotchu bro

pd2 benefits from chaplain because the spr buff from blessing increases the damage on black death steam way more than investing in int would

but inquisitor chaplain can smack the wheel and it turns their normal attack into a massive aoe and the burn attribute does their normal attack damage every 0.5 seconds in an aoe

which do you chose?
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>>181037925
tnx, i'll think about it and ask again tommorow!
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>>181037195
The only problem with pRNG is that it's crosschannel.

Could easily be fixed by weighing it towards the kliler/party who killed the most, but statistically if you are killing more your chance is higher to be getting it. Most likely those bots are killing at a similar rate to you and you got unlucky between the 10~ of you farming.
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>>181038113
What is with people who think the item system should be tied to players? That's not even an MMORPG anymore if it's like "you have to kill 100 enemies to get x item and no one can interfere". That's just busy work and you couldn't even justify not botting those kills.
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>>181038113
this is the "only problem"??

anything that allows someone to swoop in and effectively steal loot without any effort is not a functional one, cross-channel or not

explain why tying it to individual characters would be a bad thing?
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>>181038113
That wouldn't fix anything. People would just gank other peoples channels on purpose to get their farms, again. If you think this isn't a common thing then go and farm on those maps during the day like a normal person. Someone will hop onto your channel and start killing the same mobs as you with their main DPS class because they know you must've been farming for at least an hour already.

Only real fix is to make things pure RNG and leave behind this nonsense.
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>>181038308
>anything that allows someone to swoop in and effectively steal loot
OMG STOP KILL STEALING! STOP LOOTING! no wonder MMOS are shit.
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>>181038308
>effectively steal loot
retard alert

Tying it to individual characters would mean you will ALWAYS GET A DROP 100% if you play long enough
That is bad because it removes the rarity of any rare items and it would destroy the economy
Only silver would be worth anything
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How can you guys be this fucking stupid about how the system works? You have no idea where you are in the DPK cycle when you start farming and no idea when people on other channels get a drop. If you don't get anything you're just unlucky.
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>>181038432
>the point
>your head

if you have a SYSTEM that has based on achieving a certain number of kills GLOBALLY on a map, it rewards people who do none of the work and punishes the true grinders/etc, which is what MMO is supposed to be about

are you that fucking dense?
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>>181037925
kek
>>
Never try Corsair before, is this build good for farming?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11122888e.354a5a65.24314a557585.12213c7f8a95.25354372
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>>181038556
How does it punish real grinders? If one guy kills 90% of the mobs and one guy kills 10% the first guy has 90% chance to get the drop.
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>>181038475
i never said DPK was a good system

shit should be 100% pure fucking RNG, put a drop chance for every goddamn item, anyone can get an item on the 1st kill or the 10000th by chance

none of this bullshit "quest" tier item retrieval that can get stolen by other players
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>>181038357
I'm fully aware it's a common thing.

On a 1K dpk item you are allmost guaranteed the drop by 700 kills between all your kills. If someone runs in and kills 2mobs they still have a 0.34% chance of dropping it for each of those That's very low, compared to your chance of dropping it throug hall of your klils.

http://i.imgur.com/n9Daw9S.png

That shit DOES happen though, often, I've had it happen to me often. Easily resolved by weighing the drop chance because it's not a problem until you start to hit those last 100-50 numbers when the rate goes up to like 5%+ drop chance.

The biggest problem people have is there's a disparity. When it gets up that high and hasn't dropped, you were clearly unluckybut YOU pushed it there, so you feel you deserve it, you put in several hours of work, and when someone swoops in it feels like total shit.

Weighing the person's work slightly more fixes this issue entirely while not ridding the possiblity of thieves, just making it harder to happen based on your 'work' because while you'd have worked up to a 20% chance drop, you'd have only worked them up to say a 5% or 1% drop chance.
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>>181038532
We just have too many forumtards here
It's actually unreal how they dont get it through their head that you can constantly get drops no different than pure rng
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>>181038556
Are you actually retarded?
We don't have dpk anymore, just weighted RNG.
You can't steal anything because there's no magic number of kills anymore.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11144888d.254a5a65.3a4a5575.1f255a8a95.11254455

Is this the cookie cutter Corsair build (for farming) or is hoplite and shinobi just not used at all? I can go full STR due to having a pocket Chrono, but would full DEX benefit this even more (and taking Gung Ho)?
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>>181038740
We currently have a dropchance for every item you braindead eurotard
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>>181038828
>we don't have top down dpk

[citation needed]

not all of us play on ktest m8
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>>181038740
The entire reason they added DPK was so they could get away with making things much much rarer than other MMOs.

IF someone had the equivalent of what 10k DPK is as a drop, no one would ever farm it, it would be considered literally impossible to get because 0.01% chance with some of the ABYSMAL spawn rates would virtually never show up.
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>>181038828
It's weighted DPK. DPK is RNG now. DPK has changed it's meaning.

Refer to the old DPK system as "the old DPK system" to avoid confusion and sperging every time this is mentioned. Also take your pills.
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>>181038998
We have psuedoRNG, or what they call top down DPK.

That is not DPK. DPK was a shitty term used by retards anyway, what we had was guarantee, why they used the stupid subhuman forumdweller's term for this is beyond me.

Using 'top down dpk' to describe what is just psuedo RNG is even fucking stupider.

>>181039064
Or just call 'new dpk' what it is, psuedoRNG, it's not new, many MANY games have it, most of these BR/peruvians just equate it to Dota/2.
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>>181038998
play the game
read the thread
read the dev posts
activate your almonds
stop being a retard
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>>181038998
Are you retarded?
>Top Down Drop Per Kill
This makes no fucking sense, top down DPK is just a wrong name to call weighted RNG.

>>181039064
Indeed it is, but you can't just come in and steal the last DPK kills because the other guy has a far higher change than you to get the drop since he killed way more mobs than you.
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>>181039119
We don't have to care what other games do. Look purely at the past of this game. Even if most games have this system, they don't refer to it with these acronyms. So you're the one in the wrong and being an retard about it.

>What we have right now
Top-Down DPK, which is RNG - shared with server.

>What we had
Normal DPK.

>What we don't have
Pure RNG.

>What it definitely isn't called
PseudoRNG system.

Take your pills.
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>>181039119
>BR/Peruvians being smart enough to understand pseudorng

They don't know how to play Dota either. DPK at this point is just a boogeyman people are wavin around because they want hover drop rates, which sucks balls because it will make the value of DPK drops go down which means once again all progress will be tied to raw silver=have a necro or gtfo.
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>>181037925
Don't forget that inquisitors need to spend 1000 silver every time they activate their main damage skill
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>>181037745
Assuming you've never heard of it, kTEST is a test server in the korean service where patches are first introduced for testing before being pushed into the live kTOS servers, jTOS and many months later iTOS.
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mfw the people who want DPK/pRNG removed are necros who want to run the market and have everyone else sell them rare drops so they can stay on top

>>181039336
>TopDownDPK
It's not RNG it's psuedoRNG.

This is what it's always been caled everywhere for the exact system we have now, a system where you have RNG but it is also guaranteed to happen after X times by making it more likely every time. This is not a new concept, sorry if this is your first game.

>>181039436
They aren't that's why they call it TopDownDPK but just say dota has it
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>>181039336
>RNG - shared with server
what does that even mean

We just have an ever increasing RNG that is based on kills around the mapserver
Every kill is still RNG
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>>181039750
except it literally approaches 100% as you reach the "dpk" required

and literally is shared by the server, meaning you can kill 9995 mobs of a 10000 dpk kill, and now 5 kills before the item WILL drop, someone can swoop in and steal it

i don't want DPK shit at all but to say this system is anything but broken is senile. there's a fucking reason they are removing it completely in kTOS now anyway.
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>>181039690
I want old DPK back and buff all R8 mobs so I can be one of the few farming orange mats in the server and sell caro antenna for 3 mil each
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>>181039690
Take your pills.
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>>181039915
Yeah its being removed because people like you are crying like retard, it bet you're the same guy on the forum too, fucking retarded celgaming who thinks that pure RNG is better than topdown

Also in a pure RNG scenario its like you never killed all these 9995 mobs in the first place and just constantly have a 0.01% chance to get an item drop

In a pure RNG scenario you would have EVEN less chance to have had a drop when you killed 9995 monsters
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>>181040016
>Literally having no knowledge of gaming systems and being upset that he used the shitty forumtard name for things
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>>181040129
Take your pills.
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>>181040119
Supposedly they are increasing the rates, so a 10k DPK item won't be 0.01% chance, they said it'll be about half as likely, so probably 0.02% chance. :')

People can enjoy that fun time.
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>>181040119
pure rng is better period. the chances can get adjusted to compensate. i don't understand how people are so fixated on the current dpk rates as if they couldn't get changed to offset the removal of dpk itself.

there's a reason no successful mmo uses this bullshit we have now
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>>181040376
So you want just adjusted chances
Gotcha, you're a fucking retard
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>>181039690
>It's not RNG it's psuedoRNG
So far I had no issues tolerating the misuse of the term RNG, but when you try to give PRNG a completely different meaning you start triggering my autism.
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>>181040421
>literally the only response anyone can give is "retard"

no wonder this general is a dead cesspool
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>>181040376
or you can just you know

adjust the current chances and you get what you want (higher droprates)
rly makes me think
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Coffee is recruiting
Main requirment is having autism
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>>181038718
10% of robbing is still a threat.

I dont mind when someone was lucky to loot a piece of gear before me. But I do mind, and a lot, when his luck is all about getting it from your work.

It doesnt matter if you have the fastest clearspeed, raping everymob, creating your own spot, someone can easily get the Xth kill somefuckingwhere on the same map(and God forbid, a different channel), you get nothing. Your clearspeed increases your "lootrate" and everyone else's "lootrate". It doesnt make sense. I mean, maybe, if we were talking about socialism or comunism.
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>>181040820
>you get nothing
Why do you get nothing?
Because the RNG resets to its starting point?
Thats just the same as having true RNG at all times
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If I thought for a second they were ONLY going to change DPK to a pure RNG system with the drop chance at the same average chance as it is now I wouldn't care, but I doubt they will do that. They will dramatically jack up the drop rate to appeal to casuals, the prices of the items will fall, and we DPK farmers will be forced into daily slavery instead of just being able to farm valuable matts as an alternative if we want to make money and trans our stuff.
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>repairing a single solmiki piece costs 7800 silver on a 140 /kit shop
fug
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>>181040423
Well clearly you are autistic, because 'top down dpk' is exactly psuedo RNG.

Now please do keep in mind that by that I mean it's not the mathematical definition used in the math world, but it is exactly how it is used in the gaming world and has been for a long time.
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>>181041446
>He doesn't get his repairs for 115
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>>181041424
That is the inherent problem of this company
They listen too much to their retarded userbase thats crying on the forums about muh dpk

The current system is the best dropsystem I have ever found in an MMO, IMC really hit a sweetspot with this, but due to their insecurity in their own ideas (and fucking up the coding with bugs with the droprate fiasco) they're now planning to revert to the archaic old RNG system.

It's like a scientist in the medieval times that got beaten up by an angry mob because he fucked up a thing once and almost got lynched so he stops experimenting.
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>>181041617
lowest I've seen is 120
but the 140 is mine so I don't lose that much
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>>181041424
You'll still be able to farm "rare mats" and sell them though, sure the price will sink but droprate will increase so you get more lower priced items
Still a viable farming method, drops have to come from somewhere anyways and demand for those will always exist

Only thing this changes is the value of silver again and therefore the efficiency of necro accounts (once again)
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>>181041741
DPK as it is implemented in toS is the worst thing ever. It should be account-bound at least so people don't steal each others drops. It only creates an atmosphere of hate.
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How do I get this kind of luck? I heard even diamond anvils when they fail reduce potential, just not enhancement level.
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>>181042270
So your argument is based on emotions
Thats pretty pathetic my friend I gotta say that
They're very subjective after all

For example I dont hate anyone that farms on the same map as me and I'm always happy to see farming on the same map as me because it increases my dropchance constantly, I feel like these people are helping me and I'm helping them
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>>181026609
source please
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>>181038868
pls respond
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>>181042394
Ok.
I don't need any help when I'm SOLO farming something. If I need help, I'll party with people so we can help each other. I don't need random shitters help me waste hours and hours of mindless mob bashing.
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>>181041741
>DPK
>a good system
lmao maybe if it was per character instead of per map
There's no reason to have this shit tied to a map as long as you don't have the ability to PvP other grinders on the map.
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>>181042519
How do they waste your hours?
You still have constantly chances to get drops
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>>181042096
>>181041446
anyone over 120 is a ultrajew
my and a few other in best town are 114-119
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>>181042394
>you're forced to party with other people for mobs with 70k health that die to the slightest touch
>because of a gimmicky drop mechanic that promotes nothing but griefing and angry players
fuck off faggot

if drops were pure RNG everyone would party just the same
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>>181042572
Because without them, I'm sure to get the item after X kills. With shitters running around "helping" me, I can technically spend the whole fucking day without seeing a single drop.
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>>181042538
Per character/per account would completely take out the satisfaction of receiving "Rare" items since you get something guaranteed
>>181042656
You're not forced to do anything, you dont need to party at all, where are you getting that from?
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>>181042096
Klai channel 1 always has someone with a stall labelled 115 repairs, not to mention how often I see 118 shops
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>>181042751
>Per character/per account would completely take out the satisfaction of receiving "Rare" items since you get something guaranteed
Exactly dumberino. That's why pure rng is the most common and the safest way of implementing loot tables. No need for retarded map-wide DPK gimmicks.
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>>181042772
Then we're on different servers, anon.

We both need to stop our tunnel vision.
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>>181042772
>Going to klaipeda ch1
It's like you want to get bot std
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>>181042751
>Per character/per account would completely take out the satisfaction of receiving "Rare" items since you get something guaranteed
oh heavens forbid if I grind for something for hours upon hours I get it.
call the fucking korean police, this man wants to actually get shit done

it would be much better if I could slam some motherfucker farming "alongside" with me and then get the drop instead of having to play some kind of forced shared drop party
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>>181042861
We dont have DPK gimmicks
We have a RNG system that is constantly increasing
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>>181042538
>Open PvP is the only form of competition autists

Marathons are shit, why can't I punch the other runners? Why can't I drown the other swimmers? Why can't I just hit him with my racquet?
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>>181042947
No, see >>181042725
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>>181043160
>why can't I punch the other runners?
If you're american, you can bomb them
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>go to map
>Channel 1 (2/100)
>Channel 2 (3/100)
>Channel 3 (1/100)
>Channel 4 (2/100)
>Check each channel to see if someone in them is not farming the mob I want to farm.
>Channel 2 has no one in sight on the mobs I want to farm.
>Start farming on the mobs.
>The person who was farming different mobs spots me.
>Instantly starts to call me names.
>Try to calm him down, tell him I only need these.
>Keeps on raging hard.
>Finally calms down with an "oh"
>We agree we won't kill each others mobs.
>After 30 minutes he comes back.
>Starts killing the monsters I'm killing.
>"Hey didn't we agree not to do this?"
>LOL IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYWAY IT'S MAP WIDE XDDD!!
>Kills my linked and swelled mobs, then rushes back to his own mobs.
>Continue normally because there's nothing else I can do.
>A third person shows up on the channel.
>He starts to camp only my monsters, while the previous player runs off.
>They are in a party together.
>Check the other channels.
>All of them now have more players than before.
>Forced to move out of the map and come back at dead hours.
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>>181043241
Whats your point retardo?
Its currently in place, we have an ever increasing RNG system
Even if people keep getting drops everywhere across the maps except you, for you its no different than having pure RNG because every monsters you kill still has a dropchance
If you spend all day killing shit and getting nothing its just that you're not lucky, the same would have happened in a pure RNG scenario
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>>181043160
>real competition based on physical and mental skill is comparable to slapping onions in a video game
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>>181042861
>pure rng
>safe
With pure nrg an item could not drop in millions of kills.
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>>181041741
>wtf they listen to their players, I hate this game now
>wtf they don't listen to players, I hate this game now
you are like that guy that hate this game because it doesn't have as many people playing this, yet also hate wow because there are too many people playing it

seriously, just stop for a moment and just listen to what you are going to to say before brain farting it out
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>>181043410
real rng at like 1000 kills
>you and another might both get drops
>you and another might not get drops
>you and another might only one get drops
>you and another might get many drops
"muh great IMC rng" at 1000 kills
>you might get a drop
>the other guy might get a drop
wow sure is the same shit yeah boi
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>>181043285
RNG would change that how?
People would still kill your linked mobs.
>>
Reminder most of this RNG shitposting comes from Celvant "celgaming" the mega shitter who is mad that Reiters steal his kills because he's running a cheap Thauma build and can't farm contested maps without getting his shit pushed in
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>>181043639
Always easy to identify since c*lposting is always around the same hours every fucking day.
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>>181043625
Are you retarded? Let me fix this shit for you

Real rng at 1000 kills
>you and another might both get drops
>you and another might not get drops
>you and another might only one get drops
>you and another might get many drops
Top down RNG (our current system) at 1000 kills
>you and another might both get drops
>you and another might not get drops
>you and another might only one get drops
>you and another might get many drops
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>>181043890
>Top down RNG
are tosbabbies this desperate to make up new buzzwords to make their game seem interesting?
all you faggots just have normal RNG, there is no unique system to it and you're just making this shit up as you go
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>>181044045
>I'm stupid and I need everyone to know
I'm sure you're a cool guy lol
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>>181044045
>all you faggots just have normal RNG
lel no you fucking retard, it's literally in the Dev's blog
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>>181044170
>>181044164
yeah and there's also summoner fixes in the next kToS patch by making skeletons not aggro anything without your help like you guys keep telling me :))
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>>181044045
lol
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>>181044273
If only there was a way to check what's true and what is not
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>>181044164
I bet he is!
>>181044170
Dev's are silly and dont know the game they made. But >>181044045 knows it all!
>>
>you will never strangle sarcastic ohayouposter to death
If there's one thing I could wish for it would be that
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>>181044406
>I've been proven wrong
>I know, I'll pretend to be even more retarded!
>quickly, to the anime reaction image folder!
>hey, these are popular in /tosg/
>now to write like I'm an 8 year old
>there, perfect
>now no one will call me for the retard I am and I don't have to feel so bad for how stupid I am
retard
>>
>>181044045
it's a developer buzzword
literally just pseudo RNG

although you have to understand that the developers themselves also have no idea what they're doing so >>181044406 for once is actually not even being sarcastic
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>>181044537
Good luck anon!
>>
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2122a888a..132a3a415571.1a3a445165.1f2131485a6575

reminder: thauma 2 chrono 3 is a thing and firepillar stuns mobs for 10 seconds
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>>181044406
>Dev's are silly and dont know the game they made.
Well, you're not wrong on that.
>>
>>181044612
But >>181044406 was my first post today. Be less paranoid anon. Im not your buddy.
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>>181044672
we've seen the whale korean do this and he could barely kill swelled mobs with lowered health and +16 2H orange staff
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>>181043410
Are you fucking dumb or what? The drops are shared. Which means you may spend the whole week farming without getting anything because people will steal the drop. It doesn't matter if it's ever increasing.
With an rng system it's completely different.
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>>181044746
>my moe garbage post didn't work!
>this can't be
>oh I know, I'll pretend it's my first post
>they'll never know if I do that, since they'll think I avatarpost as an ohayoo
>perfect, I think I finally can feel less embarrassed for my stupidity online
retard
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>>181044873
Its still no different than an rng system you dumb fuck

Let me explain it to you so your pea-sized brain understands it

>Scenario 1 : Top down RNG/increasing RNG/whatever you want to call it what we have now
Item droprate starts at 0.2% and increases constantly until it reaches 100%. It resets abck to 0.2% each time a drop occurs.

>Scenario 2 : True RNG
Item droprate starts at 0.2% and just stays 0.2 the whole time
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>>181044974
Wrong. Anon why are you so dumb.
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>>181044406
>fuck up the DPK system and cause people to get infinite drops
>fuck up optimization beyond limits for eons
>fuck up partying to not work for 3 months
>fuck up PvP and GvG to the point where you have to pull the plug on it
>make the balance of a one legged midget
>everything you fix fucks up two extra things
b-but the devs know what they're doing guys xD
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>>181044873
>Which means you may spend the whole week farming without getting anything
That can happen with pure RNG too, so what?
>>
>>181044789

it's a support build
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>>181045084
>top down
This is placebo. You only start getting realistic drop rates once you've almost completely filled the DPK counter.
It's unnecessary throttling. It's "shaped" pseudo-luck. There is basically a tiny window during which the whole map will try to steal the drop from each other, and then you have another X hour period of nothing, depending on the DPK value.
>>
You know what would be great? Keep the current "top down dpk" system, but instead of resetting on drop, it gives a map-wide buff with high drop chance on every mob killed for a short period of time. There, we're all friends now! Exactly what happened during the dpk fiasco.
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>>181045564
>You only start getting realistic drop rates once you've almost completely filled the DPK counter
lel no, do you think 0.01% droprate is not realistic? with IMC?
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>>181045564
So?
With RNG you never have "realistic" drop values

And no one knows the current counter of the kills because its fucking mapwide shared across channels, its impossible to know so no one will "Try to steal" they will just continue farming as usual and one guy will get lucky and get the guaranteed drop, but the others can still get their drops regardless just like in a true RNG scenario
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>>181045564
I've gotten two drops within 15 minutes before, 1/1000 base drop rate is low but not astronomically so.
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>>181045153
You are not farming for someone else.
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>>181045680
>I want everything to drop constantly and silver getting more and more value over "rares"
t. necro
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>>181045720
Unidentified cubes are 1000 to 20k DPK.
It's nowhere near 0.2% like in this example >>181045084

Nobody cares about trash loot with such high chances of drop.
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>>181045723
>And no one knows the current counter of the kills
>she doesn't know
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>>181045723
The point is, it's unecessary. It doesn't bring anything to the table.
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>>181045896
>le purple cube meme
Who cares, no other item come close to that kind of dpk.
Orange mats have 600 dpk for example, and those are way more relevant.
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>>181045950
>She doesn't know
I know everything, I know so much I dont even need to know what you're referring to, but I do know it anyways
My secret spots nets me 15m an hour and I just buy anything I want anytime I want
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>>181045842
Not with the current numbers obviously, increase the dpk values so people are encouraged to group to speed it up. Also, afk farming is a completely separate problem that should be dealt with anyways.
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>5 hours later
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>>181046048
>afk farming
>problem that should be dealt with

erm no?
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>>181045997
It brings to the table that there will be guaranteed drops regularly, whether you get them or not doesn't matter, but the fact that even very rare and hard to get items will eventually drop for someone somewhere is beneficial to the economy
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>>181046032
>only 15m an hour
i would not even log in for pocket change like that
you secret spot sucks ass
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>>181043285
Just pick SR and REEE them out
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>>181046143
Which is useless. It only pushes people to play the market instead of playing the game.
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>>181046234
what are all these SRs gonna do when IMC nerfs their class
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>>181046250
How does one relate equate to the other, you cannot just make claims like that without providing a reasonable connection
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>>181046234
I only have a Manamana though, otherwise I would. I think I'd barely do 12k crits with her.
>>
fuck your drops faglords
>>181046647
>>181046647
>>181046647
>>
>>181046376
Instead of wasting time on farming things, you'll just farm silver (best case), or buy silver. And then buy whatever you need off the market.
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