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Previous >>180716506


>A lot of info and details about re-balance stuff
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/ktest-ktos-class-rework-thread-important-info-in-1st-post/354628


>HG 315 Purple Weapons X Practonium Purple Weapons
https://pastebin.com/78mTQn1Y

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=3&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1026

>Current events:
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=33&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1018
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1019
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=994

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Addon Manager (includes jTOS and iTOS addons)
https://github.com/JTosAddon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager/releases


>Database, skill planner and other stuff
https://tos.neet.tv/

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Hunting Grounds locations and gear spreadsheet (all in RNG cubes now. drop from all)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fP4G1JjL2pj6wMfpL_3o9pFWYIKpr3QnYgQ-XTfK21k/pubhtml#

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
cute (Merigolds and Majiene)

>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)

>Telsiai
Comfy (neshoi)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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>your staff is so big you need 2 chronos to work it
feelsgood
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>>180836747
>support cause it's a priest3 as base and until I get Aspergillium/plague my dps will be shit.
get jewbuffs

Game is easy now. Even as support or badbuild.
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>>180837101

you meant two handed sword, right?

>two chronos and a falconer for muh doppel
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can someone test if this is accurate?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nejc36izd9aaFp_Ar9KMSjbnxkBHApA4InkgguOkRuk/edit#gid=1434589491
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>>180837258
but m8 I don't want to spend big money on a character, maybe 10/20 $ at max
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>>180837258
>Game is easy now
>newer players will not know the feel of running from a homing missile/spell in fear and panic, but futile and it hitting you for 40k dmg, literally killing you twice
kinda sad
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>>180837798
What are you talking about.
The buffs are literal pocket change and use the ingame money.
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>>180837914
Early r8 was the most fun I ever had in PVE in this game
And it will never be the same thanks to forum babies crying endlessly on the forums and facebook
>>180837798
He's talking about pardoner buffs in towns
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MEETUP in 12 hours girls!

!!!
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>>180838059
>>180838020
I thought he was speaking of paid items. No TP item allows you to rank up faster right? Except from tomes oc
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>>180837101
yeah basically
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>bought 12 netherbovine cards for 100k immediately after the sorc buffs
>1 star netherbovine is now 3-4 million
I told you guys to buy them
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>>180837670
Swell Arms+Brain and EnchantFire+Light are correct there.

I dont have sheets or care about the other stuff on it.
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I miss pre-renewal pyro so much
nuking bosses with linked cloned fireballs was the best
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>futurecucks, kotatsu and niggerhouse still in OP
get out with this normie shit
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>>180839010
No u
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>>180839010
Futureproof can be cringe and even dead, but it's not normie and it's still /tosg/

But I agree, remove reddit house from the OP
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Just how much does the Sapper Master bench?
His arms are fucking HUGE.
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I believe futurepoof is more alive now that it took in some C*L refugees but I'm not 100% sure
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>>180839142
Futureproof is full of c*lniggers now
It was better for them to be dead than taking normie refugees
>>180839074
fuck off rodent with your normie guild
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Who's this ho?
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>tfw found out the secret to making +16 weapons (and higher)
Now it makes perfect sense how some people end up with +30 weapons and some people lose all their potential not even getting +11
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>>180840202
Goddess Medeina.
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>>180840356

tell me, please

ruined all my pract weapons and even a orange one. all I want is a +11
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>>180839010
Stop shitposting
>>180839597
>FP took the 4 or 5 tosg members C*l had
>Dude not tosg lamo
Stop shitposting
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>>180840356
>sekkreti
just luck and diamond anvils, dont start this shit again
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>>180840480
Sorry rodent, I'd tell it in the guildchat if I was in your guild but I wouldnt want to discuss anything like that here due to people like
>>180840529
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>>180840501
t. c*lnigger refugee
kys normie shitter
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>>180840356
The secret is to truly not give a damn about it.
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>>180840632
>kys
>kiss you softly
fuck off you fucking erper piece of shit
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>tfw found this super secret method to be super rich and invincible and strong and ERP with all the hot girls
not telling btw
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>>180840356
>I know thing but will not show or tell, not spoonfeed you, you buttblasted shitter

welcome back mate
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>>180840883
I found this super secret location where you can use dig to find infinite practonium and I know the secret combinations to turn them into any hat I want.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MwN5nDajWs

>this is your typical amerifriend

>>180840202
new goddess soon
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>>180840356
heh I know this too. I would've told /tosg/ long ago if it wasn't so infested with reddit.
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>Idling in game because I'm too lazy/tired to actually keep playing
fishing come sooner
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>haven't even posted in the thread and people falseflagging me again
wew rodent, keep your guild in check please
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>tfw you will never be as pathetic and braindead as C*lnigger
You should at least feel good about this
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>tfw you will never be a cuckold for maidcafe in a reddithouse guild
something to be glad about every day
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Why does nobody do the party quests anymore?
I really want to try and get the snow-flower spray and a vuvuzela but I don't think anyone does it.
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>>180841669
fishing won't save the game tho, it's just another time sink of 2 hours every day for trash with a low chance of 1 useful item per day
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>tfw you will never be unloved loner kirito looser without guild or friends
i usually dont even think about that. and do not care. game is gud
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>180842201
because they dont drop them(or other nice things) anymore
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>>180841672
They are talking about cute not lewd you paraniod asshole
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>>180842201
You can solo the quests easily and also >>180842415
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>>180842201
The rates are shit. 400+ party quests and I never got a subweapon. The free OTL flag from the event was icing on the cake for me.

>>180842238
I don't expect it to save the game, I just want something chill to do during downtime.
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>>180842465
then stop censoring the words you mongoloid. if a guild is in the OP it can be talked about without that autism. two of the guilds in the OP are literal reddit and have stopped being relevant to /tosg/ for months but you keep putting them in
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>>180841672
>she thinks C*lnigger is refering to C*nt
LMAO
No one here gives a shit about you or anything happening in your server
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>>180842636
its not like you do anything while fishing. you go afk like now and come back to get some trash.
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stop talking about me already
I don't care about your guild or drama
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>want gladiator band
>see one for 6.9m
>cheap!
>hencho en mexico

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT!

By the way how much is a glad band in shard at the moment? No clue the real price for a glad band and I'm looking into buying 2 right now.
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Just take all the guilds out of the OP
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>>180842885
No, better:

>Just dont give a fuck what leddit.cum/r/the_tosg says
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>>180843037
I wish 'reddit/leddit' was worldfiltered and banned. It's worse than 'cuck' at this point.
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>>180843201
But its a great way to identify C*lniggers (the individual) posts
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>>180843201
i'm a simple man
i see le funny post
i upvote XD
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>>180842747
>LMFAO
I agree with you anon, but I can't stop my server shitting up every thread and you then misdirecting that at me.
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wghat are some good grinding spawn places like Nefritas cliff where monsters spawn rapidly in a small area?
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>>180843410
Dina Bee farm
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>>180843386
Are you really this paranoid?
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>>180843410
200-24x Alemeth
24x-27x Storage
26x-29x Maven Abbey
28x-31x Timerys Temple

and 270+ HGs too
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>>180843410
Demon Prison Distrct 2
Dina Bee Farm
When someone's doing the event there's one of the Mauso maps
Tenet Garden
Tenet Chapel 2F
My secret farming spot
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>tfw ping is sooooooo good that the game can't fucking follow my character's movement to the point I desync

.06~.1 ping here, and I fucking hate it cause I desync so hard nowadays. Damn you good internet.
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>>180843454
full
>>180843591
I'm still low level, arent these 200lvl up?
>>180843635
thank u
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>>180843756
>60-100 ms is good ping
lol
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Newfag here.
Wanna play enchanter but cant find any decent build, any help?
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>>180843848
There is no "good" enchanter build
its a dead end class with no synergy and just all around shit
Best thing would be just having chrono3 I guess
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>>180843829
Dont grind at low lvls.

>>180843756
baka, see >>180843836

>>180843848
>enchanter.. decent build
Does not exist. Class is bad.
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>>180843410
Jeromel Park
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>>180843989
Just want something where I can leave my Wizard with the autoattack button pressed and kill things while I'm working.
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>>180843563
>implying

>>180840632
>>180841818
>>180842308
>>180842465
>paranoid
>>180842747
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>>180844134
Oh in that case, any mobs 10-15 lvl higher
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>>180844141
Sad
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>>180844195
Pathetic
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>>180843964
>>180843989
Okay then. So I wanna be support scrub who can farm money, any tips?
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>>180844141
change your name already CelAutist

one of them was me and i didnt mean you, baka
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>>180844365
Play a different game
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>>180844365
necro
featherfoot
which of these sounds better.
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>>180844365
>support... who can farm money
clerics

other support cant do anything good solo at high lvls
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>>180844394
>one post
I'm sure the rest is spot on. Give me the TP and I will.
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>>180844134
People just do that in Tenet Chapel and Crystal Mines
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>>180844750
dumb frogposter
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hmmmmm
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So I got one of these.
Should I keep or sell it? I read in some places that it is pretty good for farming silver but I'm not so sure about it.
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>>180844969
>half nipple
see you in 3days
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>>180844832
but arent level appropriate zones better?
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>close /vg/ tab
>nothing of value was lost
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>>180844134
You can't do that it's against the no-Macros rule.
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>>180845301
Yeah we won't miss you
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>>180845310
kek, but it's not a macro. No one could tell the difference if I just stay still and kill things, also I think that necros in dina bee are far worse
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>>180845301
But if /vg/ is closed how you just posted?
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Uhmmm, where are the cute clerics(male)?
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>>180845281
For afking? No. The key point is to not be able to be killed by local monsters. Anything your level will kill you.
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5jane sell me your stingers before I report you to imc for macroing
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>>180845619
What do people do with the shitty stingers?
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>>180845616
so you don't get more silver from higher lvl monsters..?
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>>180845540
Mujiene and Trapezoid are both clerics(male) and are in cute
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>>180845687
Turn them into honey meli stingers. I used to use them to make bullet shooters way back when. People would buy those and skull bows all the time.
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>>180845824
Fuck
Man I wish I had a list of recipes for magnus opus stuff
>tfw wasted like 20k stingers on gem exp
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>>180842308
>mmo
>friends
hahaha
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>>180845772
you do, but you have to active farm them. Because you can't make money if you are dead.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAxS61hBWHQ

Ohh... So this is the whale power... Impressive.
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Get your stingers ready I'm going to trade you in exactly 1 hour.
1 shard for 500 stingers or say good buy to your account.
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>>180846061
nobody cares about your nigger bf faggot.
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>>180846018
Can he sustain this dps on a world boss?
No.
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>>180846162
Pass
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>>180846162
This isn't an issue since most parties for ET/Solmiki have two chronomancers. Someone with at least Diev1 helps too with CD reduction.
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>>180846162
That burst is worth more than 10 minutes of your doppel "sustained" dps
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>>180846310
People say Pass as if it didn't have a cooldown of its own.
In before 10 chrononiggers taking turns to pass the whale.
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>>180845619
>tfw you didn't know what 3jane was referencing until you looked it up
>tfw didn't realize what lalaco was named after until recently but can't disassociate it now and recall that shit whenever someone mentions them
>tfw feel like katzenberg is a reference to something but have no idea what
>tfw koenig makes you think of Zoids
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>>180846162
>worldboss
Why would anyone waste their time with demon lords though?
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>>180843836
>>180843989
Welp I thought .06 and .1 meant .6 and 1ms respectively

Well I guess I'm wrong then.
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>>180846956
>10 chrononiggers taking turns to pass the whale
Except this literally happens? The Korean meta is 2 Chronos and a Diev in ET for this very reason.
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>>180847016
What would you waste your time on instead?
Running dungeons on your SR to farm silver so you can buy WB loot 3 months after everyone else?
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>>180846998
>lalaco
Whats the secret?
>inb4 delete this
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>>180845923
>that is what kirito really thinks
sad
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>>180847218
What fucking WB loot?
Please dont tell me hasta or blut cards lmao
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>>180847240
The secret is that it's a filthy weeb name fitting a filthy erper.
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>>180847362
hmmmm....
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>>180847362
>xe doesn't know about new field bosses cubes
lmao
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>>180847016
play the korean datamining/research game
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>>180847445
Those dont drop from demon lords exclusively though
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>>180847373
that is no secret, baka anon
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>>180847562
Who's talking about demon lords exclusively?
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>>180847672
why would you need pass or sustained DPS on bosses that you can kill in less than few seconds
follow the conversation dumbo
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Just spent 40-50 mins with chrono-diev-oracle on castle gardener, didnt get shit. Have gotten to rank 2 on the kill ranking camping him one day. What kind of shitty drop rate is this?
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>>180847735
Are you really THAT clueless about the future changes to field bosses? You need to leave your cave, anon.
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>>180847240
It's Luluco's mother's name form that shitty Trigger show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnntMZGBjZY
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>>180847872
Oh trying to get Manahas? Yeah I know somebody who farmed him for a week and is still missing boots.
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>>180844969
Who is this monk slut?
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Everytime I start a build, IMC immediately finds a way to fuck it over forever.

I should really make a Chrono so you fags stop whining about them.
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BREAKING:
Nips might have discovered a shoah-tier dupping bug related to shards.
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>>180848137
No, make a dopp :^)
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>>180845025
It's not.
You MIGHT get a fruit of wisdom, but that's like... less than 1%.
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>>180848236
oy vey
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>>180848009
Yeah, but doesn't it drop from 4 different monster each piece?
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>>180847240
her(his) name was el princesa la cartelo
She(he) used to own ERP game in whole tree of savior
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>>180848504
All from the same monster but with like 10% chance? Maybe less.
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When we getting new klap
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>>180848742
It's one piece per miniboss as far as I know and the drop rates are abysmal, nowhere near 10%.
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>>180848742
>>180848504
Nah, its 4 different elites.
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>>180848742
Definitely not 10%
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who's the kike who put honeybean stingers at 1.2k
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>>180843848
I have an enchanter. Don't do it.

If you do decide to do it. Chronolinker. Sharing Enchant Lightning is the only useful thing you can do for most of the content you'll want to do.

The shop sucks only lvl 3 being needed. Empowering sucks, despite it's tooltip it doesn't do what you'd think it does. Agility sucks. Selling scrolls sucks unless you take a level in warlock, so I gues you can do Pyro2Linker3WL. I do suggest Linker2 at the least somewhere in there, sharing your Enchant Lightning is the only use you'll be to anyone.

I sell Enchant Fire scrolls decently well at 500 profit a scroll. Joint Penalty don't sell for shit. I see a guy who sells PoA but I rarely see them bought or he re-ups often who knows.
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>>180849107
>>180849030
That bastard has been lying to me then? I thought it came from 1 boss and as usual any of the database were useless and didn't list it so I had to take his word for it.
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>>180849660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGy8zhZ33sI
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>>180849660
No, there are four elite mobs and each one drops a part of the Manahas set. They're at:

- Mishekan Forest
- Lhadar Forest
- Inner Wall District 9
- Mollogheo Forest
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>>180849246
>I don't know how statistics work
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>>180849660
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/rank-8-gameplay-videos-from-korea-closing-soon/322334/1226
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>>180847872
>>180849246
Probably 2,5k dpk just like antlers from spearman
just keep rerolling on oracle my man
ehehehehe
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>>180850276
I should farm me some manahas
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>>180849372
>Enchant Lightning
Now that Ele damage is nerfed, did they change it to be useful?
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>>180850760
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>>180850845
>>180849372
Clarification: Since 500 lightning damage isn't added to your multipliers anymore, do you get to add like 2.5k lightning damage?
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>>180850760
sauce
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>>180850845
Nah, its weak. even worse class now
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>>180850125
Yeah only killed him 30 times and rerolled 50+ with oracle but definitely 10% drop, sure.
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>>180851351
You used the word "definitely" yet provided no evidence for it. Stop lying.
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how come five hammer is recommended as cleric weapon ?
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>>180851658
Five fucking sockets that's why.
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Where do I get werewolf card?
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>>180852112
Market
OR
Crystal Mines mission
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>>180852112
Crystal Mines mission. Good luck.
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>>180850845
It's shit bro, enchanter right now is straight reroll tuer
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>>180851774
I got it lvl40 at 125 atk.. how do I increase it?
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>>180852604
Go to the blacksmith
Add all the sockets
Put roasted red gems as high a level you can acquire
Enjoy leveling with it until 200ish

I don't know if red is better than blue with the combat changes.
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>>180853082
so no avil? I leave it at 120 atk and add 5 gems?
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>>180853594
yes
it has bad base attack, but the 5 gems you can insert can be very strong
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Newfag here, sitting at like level 80~, what's the recommended place to gain levels, or is it just continue doing as many quests as I can?

Also, in the EU serv, for the guild, do I just throw the person listed a message or whatever?
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>>180855108
>Also, in the EU serv, for the guild, do I just throw the person listed a message or whatever?
Yes
The Mighty Rodent still online
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>>180855253
whore
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>>180855108
Whisper capyba, offer him salad or something
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>>180855108
Do quests and dungeons all the time.
You can grind after Lv200 if you want.

whisper or add a GuildLeader.
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>>180855650
Would stab
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>>180855650
I never noticed FF was topless until now.
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>>180856052
it wasn't until now.
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>>180856237
derp I thought it was just a recolor, but topless looks much better anyways, in a non-lewd way
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>>180856237
The master was always topless though.
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When will tokens go back to 1.7mil
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>>180856662
>xe didn't buy months worth of tokens when they were 1.5kk
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>>180856662
>she didn't stock up when people were listing them for 1.5m

baka
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>>180856831
>kk
fucking swaaz, where is that wall?
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Can you really get Rubies from 140 and 200 dungeon cubes?
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>>180857014
So far I've had them from 200, 140 gives Topaz
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I don't understand it. Why is running around as a swordsman with a gun so fun? I wish they could use rifles too. Samurai when?
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>>180858223
I want weebs to hang.
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>>180855650
Where are the nipples reeeeee
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>>180859250
t. virgin
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>>180857067
140 gives both Ruby and Topaz
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Anyone notice how Korea is such a culture-less place that they couldn't even think up a Korean class in a game with classes from all over the world? There are 2, soon to be 3 Japanese ones, 2 or 3 Chinese ones, but no Korean one.
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>>180859784
Soon in R9 we will have plastic surgeon for clerics
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>>180859784
Where's the American class? We literally rule the world and don't get a class? I guess 2 nukes weren't enough.
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>>180860098
>america
>culture

lol
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>>180860098
Korea is not Japan.
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>>180860098
> I guess 2 nukes weren't enough.

american education
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>>180860225
American culture is the world's culture, all the lesser countries just try to copy us. Stay in the gutter where you belong, trash.
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>>180860098
but there is so many jew classes already.
no thiefs or murderers tho.
and no class what is based on having permanent 100%+ weight. (or maybe Dig+Combustion memes?)
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>>180860403
>american
>culture
lmao
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>>180860098
>>180860225
>Native American Shaman class known as Medicineman (or woman)
>Cowboy or Cowgirl class, specializing in dual pistols or using a rifle, might have a mounted variant
>Pilgrim class, cleric that uses a musket and is good against magic users (heretics)
>Explorer class, has abilities that affect mobs, drops and map exploration/travel
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>>180860956
>>180860098
Luchador is coming.
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>>180860956
sounds meh
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>>180860956
Cowboy needs to happen
Its the perfect followup from Reiter
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>>180860956
Cowboy class is the only one I can see actually being put in the game.

Hidden class, male only
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do the pet and clover exp buffs stack now?
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I have 145 TP from a old event. What is the best way to spend them? Buy char slots, storage or try to get something good in the RNG box from the TP shop and sell?
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>>180861318
Since last week. Last day for clover, tho.
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>>180861318
нeт
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>>180861318
Yes, but Clover event ends in a few hours.
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>>180861464
Where do you find all this shit art? I do hope we get another leveling event to replace the clover event. I don't want to do any quests.
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>>180861419
char slots (if you dont have a dozen yet). use daily free 5tp too.
dont let MrKim cuck your desire to make chars.
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>>180861621
Probably from inven. The scariest stuff comes from Koreans.
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>>180861621
Yeah we're getting the pirate event,
1 exp tome every 3 days :^)
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???
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>>180861665
>>180861621
yes
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>>180861745
>not saving up wood planks for best costume
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>>180861745
That's fine, since I can just combine them and use them when they're 8x.
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>>180861860
Bots and necroalts will be selling it at 300k anyways
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>>180861059
Luchador is mexican you stupid american
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>>180862051
that was the joke, get to work on that wall jose
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>>180862167
t. pedro
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when using a mace weapon what is better to socket in, blue gems or red gems?
Playing a pure SPR cleric-priest btw
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>>180863083
How do posts this stupid get made?
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>>180863205
nigga it's a serious question, new to the game and have no idea
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>>180863382
Are you new to existing?
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>>180863382
Red unless diev3
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>>180863495
doesn't priest/chap skill scale of Matk? Like cure does scale to m.attack
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>>180863591
Red gems are +max attack
+max attack influence physical attack, offhand attack and even magic attack.
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>>180863671
so what are blue gems even used for..?
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>>180863920
Blue are constant damage, red are more rng since you could get high or low rolls.
Average dps increase is around the same.
Few skills, like Dive's Owls benefit only from minimum attack though.
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Stomping kick should fly you towards an enemy.
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>>180863920
I DUNNO MAN MAYBE TO INCREASE MAGIC ATTACK???

If you fucking looked at them you could easily see that you get more magic attack from blues than reds.
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>>180864172
>If you fucking looked at them you could easily see that you get more magic attack from blues than reds.
That's literally wrong.
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>>180864231
>stupid
Yeah okay, just socket some reds in your +30 regard horn staff, that won't make you look like a fucking idiot at all.
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>>180864423
It would not.

I use blue tho (and im not that other fag)
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>>180863205
>>180863494
>>180864172
Chill, dude. Take a walk or somethin.
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>>180864423
>lv 7 blue: 144 magic attack
>lv 7 red: 310 max attack
>average dps of lv 7 red: 310/2 = 155
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what's happening here /tosg/?
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>>180864921
>1 socket
It's shit
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>>180864921
It's not like any of the weapons are worth making anyway.
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now, the only thing I need is to find some RMT&Lamb cousin
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>>180865238
Did you actually waste the silver to listing that trash?
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>>180865238
>letting 12 million evaporate
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Alright /tosg/ I'm making my first archer character. How do I build a cute cannoneer?
A2>Sap3>App>C2 seems to be the kr meta. Any thoughts?
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>>180865637
seems like the best option
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>>180865238
ayy lmao
you're so fucking retarded man whats wrong with you
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>>180865637
Sapper is literal trash, but all the people here are delusional and will tell you it's good for some reason. Just do Ranger3 instead.
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>>180865238
>>180864921
How long did it take you to grind that up?
How much reroll cost
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>>180865965
20 days and 40 milions
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>>180866045
wrong
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>>180866045
Damn that's rough
I guess you were helping a guildmate get their weapon or I dont know why you would farm 40f and then sell it
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How much invested DEX(Before gear/cards) I should have on an A2/R2/APP/SR3? 140 average ping
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>>180865238
Shouldve done a fencer weapon

the +2 skills seem more worth than +1 on reiter shit
Aspana2gud
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>>180852279
>>180852365
After waiting for half an hour for someone to queu it with me I found out that I can solo it, yeah for me I guess.
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>>180867143
>yay for me I guess
Fix'd
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>>180867143
Don't forget to kill the trash enemies at each flag until they stop respawning so you can get some ore drops.
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>>180867143
>>180867993
Only the spiders and bats drop ores like Portium. The flying skulls give nothing.

At the second phase, try to the bosses as fast as you can so you can get more waves of spiders.
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>>180868974
No?
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/41254
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>>180866424
pls send help
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>>180868974
>Only the spiders and bats drop ores like Portium.
yeah bs, all the mobs there can drop portium, i just did it today and the skulls dropped it.
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I was told that you don't have to do quests anymore to level. Someone tell me more about this might consider playing again depending on what happened
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>>180869808
hmm nah, you would just quit in a week so what's the point really? endgame is pretty boring, if you don't enjoy getting there then there is no point.
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>>180869808
You don't even have to play the game anymore. Just fuck off, it's that easy!
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Friendly reminder that Nukas in Michmas drop Bloodstones at a 15% chance, as opposed to the 1% or less that any other enemy has. Great for all the collections that want it!
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>>180870807
fuck off dude
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>>180870807
delet
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>>180871139
>>180871257
shut it down
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>>180870807
DELETE THIS! NOW!!
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Reminder that R10 archer will be cossack!
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>>180871420
It'll be Cowgirl as everyone knows Americans are the pinnacle of marksmanship.
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If only dvine was still here
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>>180860618
>no thiefs or murderers tho.
Rogue, moron.
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>>180872459
lol corsair is more of a thief than rogue will ever be

>you will never plunder and sell parties again
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>check forums
>guy wants to sue IMC

AYYYYLMAO

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/imc-could-you-please-provide-me-your-legal-contact/365212/19
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>>180873267
It's more embarrassing that you read the forums than someone on the forums doing something stupid.
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>>180873267
>Already contacted Steam staff and they agreed, are fully aware of what's happening here. So, I will sue IMC, they've crossed the line.
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>>180873267
>https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/imc-could-you-please-provide-me-your-legal-contact/365212/19
for what?
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>use 2x multiply tokens on 290 for FF farming
>not even half way done
>Disconnected from Server
fuck this game
even I want to sue this company for this shit
>>
I'm sick of recipes and cubes. Nothing beats the thrill of seeing a weapon drop after a kill.
>>
Is there an idea of how much higher socket chances are with player Appraiser shops?

Been getting a lot of 1-slots lately ruining gear.
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>>180873503
Well sometimes I go there to see the shithole called humanity because being around you sociopaths gets boring at least once a day.
>>
What'd you just call me? Now you've done it bitchboy, I've just paid MMOTANK to send their Chinese hitman across the world to kill your stupid ass. You're fucking DEAD.
>>
>two pieces of solmiki costed me 40m with rerolls
>finally make them after month+
>upgrade
>+4 FAIL
>+4 FAIL
>+4 SUCCESS
>+5 FAIL
>+4 FAIL
>This happens on both gloves / boots
Why do I play this?
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>>180875712
+4 can fail? I'm pretty sure they changed it so that you can get +5 without failing on all armor pieces. Which would make you a FUCKING LIAR.
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>>180875827
what the fuck, +4 and above can fail for armors
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>>180875712
idk, take a break maybe
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>>180875827
Wrong.

nonWeapons are only save until +3
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>>180875859
>>180876045
Yeah I remember now, it was just the sub-weapon they changed to be safe to 5 instead of 3. You just suck at this game. I thought it was all safe to 5, I enhanced all my armor and accessories to +6.
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Basecamp warps disappear at some point, right? Or is it only when the channel crashes?
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>>180877481
It's retard code. It disappears instantly if no one is on the map and you can't use it but you can warp to it. If you don't remake it and it expires you can use it still to warp there, once, then it will start to tell you it's gone.
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>>180878958
delete this please
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So what are the conditions for the shinobi flower to spawn? Just 4 hours wait on the channel?
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T minus < 4 hours until meetup
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Finally lvl 315 and I can equip my +16 welfare shitter sword, this glow is god tier tho
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>>180879134
>Welfare

Too bad this game hates us so farming for real gear you need to be a neet or a whale to get.
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>>180878028
Strange. I managed to warp to it several times after it disappeared, but now it tells me "it doesn't exist"
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>>180879353
It's not like the gear even matters. I have fun just farming HGs and 315 mats to sell. I'll have a fat stack of silver ready when I want the R9 weapons.
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>>180879649
>not like gear even matters
>fun

casul
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>>180879869
I can do Saalus too! And ET! The only thing I miss with my shit build is Solmiki, but if I really wanted to do that I could just make a CryoChrono or Taoist.
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>>180873267
If you check his history, he said the same thing last year.
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>use 20 enchant scrolls trying to get just a single physical damage line on hat1
>get this instead

fug off, I need physical! At least I opened a pract today. Now I just need to decide on which weapon to craft.
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>>180880882
I'll buy it if you're on klai, or trade it for something with a physical line
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>>180880882
I'll get you physical ;)

I'm threejane msg me in game
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>>180879092
Anyone knows? Been waiting 4h+ and nothing
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>>180881167
the spawn is higher than 4 hours
some people waited for days
good luck
>>
For PD2 should I aim for Skull or Heart as an orange weapon? I feel like Heart is better and you can still swap it between alts. Also mats seem easier to get for Heart.
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>>180881397
>swap between alts
kek
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>>180880882
Meh Physical attack is all what I get on my hats. I got 114 and 120 respectively on my hair1 and 2 while my hair 3 which is also a Hipster Glasses has a 14 crit rate.
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>>180881595
>hipster glasses
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>>180881397

if you want to swap for alts, get a vienarazis mace. Literally the best alt weapon in the game.

if you want to trans, get HoG for int pd and Skull for SPR priest PD
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>>180881397
HoG is better for PD unless you're some meme priest build
also
>swap between alts
you want to transcend that shit nigga
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*sniff*
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>>180882175
Smells like unwashed ass and pussy, fucking slut
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>>180882660
Why would I want her to wash it? I want to clean it with my mouth! brap

How good is the Pract bow? If I don't want the crit rate, am I better off selling my pract and buying the Purine bow that has 50 STR on it?
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>>180881921
>>180881930
Alright, bought the recipe for 13m. Any tips on farming these mats? Got the Practonium ready to go.
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>>180883101
>How good is the Pract bow?
1019-1529 ATK

Pract: +148 MINATK, +246 MAXATK, +8 ACC, +32 CRATE
HG315: +50 STR, +35 CRATE

Auf Bow is better than the HG one IMO.
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>>180883337
What if I told you that I'm a WuguMergen?
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>>180883526
4m is nothing tho
They're just ugly as hell
Not him btw, but anyone wearing hipster glasses unhidden is guaranteed to be a loser in any aspects of life not even a debate
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>>180883526
I hate them because they're ugly, but hey to each his own. I'd pay 10m if they added a cute pirate eyepatch instead of retarded weeb shit.
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>>180883526
Kills muh immersion
I had a pair and sold it, they're ugly as sin and I'm glad.
I got the slid-off glasses for my alchemist, they're an improvement at least.
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>>180883526
You might as well quit if you think 4m is premium
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>>180883598
>>180883658
>>180883817
>>180883849
Look at all these triggered faggots.
>>
are there any fun "main" classes that aren't sr3 or doppel?
>>
Damn, hipster glasses btfo
I wouldnt show my face at a meat up with these things now
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>>180883889
>I was merely pretending
>>
Cleric3Sadhu3PD2
or
Cleric2PriestSadhu3PD2?

The only reason I want priest is for ressurrection and the the double damage on heal, but I feel like res is overrated and blessing from pardoners is enough
Plus Cleric3 costume looks comfy
Do people die much in ET? 1-35?
>>
I'm going to marry Giltine!
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>>180883658
All this Corsair hype IMC has been building up surely means they'll add a pirate eyepatch!

never ever
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>>180883934
You know what's more embarrassing? Going to that meet up.
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>>180873267

This is the same stupid motherfucker who failed to transcend his sarkmis because he didn't realize gem costs changed and threw a gigantic autism fit on the forums, npcing all of his gear/giving it away (and then coming back to the game in a week).

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/retrieved-blessed-werent-enough-to-transcend-my-weapon-the-same-stage-as-before/359855
>>
Dear goonbros,
How the fuck do I build a good Dragoon?
Sw3Cat3Goon2?
Sw3Hop3Goon2?
Sw2Hop2Cat2Goon2?
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>>180885905

>good
>Dragoon

Maybe in a few patches. The Cata3 is the PvP meme and my PvP dragoon friends seem to still like it. I'm hop3sword3 for pve and I liked it the most out of all the builds I tried during the reset.

Barbarian is good for debuff memes too. If I were to reset now I might end up going Barbarian to be a slut for other physical DPS.
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>>180885905
Don't do cata if you're going dragoon2
Sword3Hoplite3Dragoon2 is simple and good with what you have.
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>>180885905
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111444fh.3f4f5f.1f233f627a.14253541.15314455
You are welcome.
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>>180885905
Sword3 Barb3 Goon2
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>he takes more than 2 seconds to get rank 8
Gee anon
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>>180885905
Sw3Cat3Goon2 for PvP memes
Sw3Hop3Goon2 or Sw3HL3Goon2 for decent damage
Sw3Barb3Goon2 for okay damage and some support

Sw3HL3Goon2 was my favorite from the builds I tested during the reset event.
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>>180886118
But that's a lancer build

>>180885905
I personally prefer Sword3 Hop3 Drag2

Btw Finestra gives you a lot of block so if you decide to use a 1 spear and a shield nobody will judge you except for those whales who love to min-max but the passive block on a level 15 finestra pretty much gives you a pass to face tank a lot of bosses which a lot of 2 hand users can't cause if they don't take SW3 for 15 pain they will take so much damage from the boss cause Dragoons tend to eat the boss' aggro so you end up being the tank even if you don't want it. I can out damage 2 hand users because I literally don't have to leave the bosses side to run away every time the boss tries to hit me. The 20% boss damage boost on Drag is nothing if you can sustain your dps longer.

I just really hate 2 hand spears
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>>180886536
>27
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>>180886536
Venha cá me fazer uma chupetinha, gostosa.
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>>180886740
>>
What do I do with all these gems so that they don't take up so much inventory space? Can I combine them somehow? Do I just sell them?
>>
Do people want a full support Taoist? Or should I just make some damage build that sticks Taoist on the end of it?

I was going to do something like this for ET support:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41221777h.1a2a345561.213a45546595.112d35415a6a75.1355617185
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>>180887096
>Can I combine them somehow?
Yes, sit and some number.

And bank them, they drop in some maps if you die.
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>>180887096
press insert to sit, then press d
drag the gem you like to the left and combine the others with it.
>>
No Wizard C3 Costumes on the market ;-;
>>
Does feint + barrage still works?
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>>180886718

That is some insane misinfo you're saying there. RHP is amazing for Dragoon and you're never going to outdamage an actual 2h spear user that's not retarded. You're describing someone using a 2h spear playing like a retard, which I guess might be common now with all the red mage joe dragoons out there. You can not like 2hand spears if you want but it's not a matter of being a whale to make the RHP better than wingshard.

Not to mention that if it was a matter of price RHP is the easiest red weapon to make and wingshard is one of the harder ones.
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>>180887420
Yep.
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>>180887178
>>180887196
Oh, I was wondering what that menu did. Thank you, and thanks for not bullying.
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>>180887473
>misinfo
It's not misinfo if that's the meta for the non-whales.

See that's the thing, RHP is a different story. But for a common 2 hand user I can out damage them easily with my 1 hand + shield set up. Shit, if I had an RHP right now at +11 min with +6 or 7 gems on to of having a level 5 Trans I would easily give up my 1 hand set up for that whale damage.

>rmj builds

Well that's the problem, if his build wasn't too extensively written even if it is just theory craft nobody would care about it. He made it look like the build is really good and for lower tier gears and build it is pretty solid. Like I said before if you are a whale that loves to min-max you will judge anybody using a 1hand spear set up faster than a black guy running from the cops.
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>>180887901

The easiest red weapon in the game is whale tier now? What the fuck happened to this general?
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>>180888286
Only whales get practo because it only comes from p2w cubes duh. Also if you have a stage 10 weapon its because you're a whale and not because Saalus has been out for fucking ever. Don't get lucky with enchanting either, +16 is getting into whale territory and I will block and report you.
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>>180888286
Well it is still a 65m weapon. Unless you're running and selling ET boots and gloves it's pretty hard to come up with 65m when you're new unless your RMT or your luck is insane.
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>>180888634
>65m is hard unless you RMT
What do you do in game that you find 65m to be hard?
Do you just log in, do siauliai, a map or two of questing and log off or wtf?
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>>180887901
I don't even understand what you're talking about. How is a 1h + shield cheaper than a 2h weapon? You also realize that you're giving up 20% extra large monster damage and 10% boss damage by not using a 2h spear, right?
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>>180888789
>when you're new
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>>180889130
>I have to start the game with my best in slot weapon
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>>180850845
No. However, it can be okay in 290dg, I doubt I'd ever get into an ET on that guy or get far. Link helps butPyro3 was the biggest mistake I made, it can be great if I lay everything down of course like it's always been, but Pyro1Linker3X2Enchanter would have been way better, or even Cryo3Linker2WLEnchanter

The obvious choice though is to just not go enchanter again, Sage is just way too much better since it invalidates an entire type of damage.
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>>180888789
I'm not talking about myself. I'm talking about some of the general newer players that like what you are thinking can only do like a map or 2, siaulai and Saalus then log off.

I know a couple of people like that and I've also had friends quit on me cause they hate the dpk system.

>>180888938
Finestra gives you that big passive block buff right? It is very useful if you didn't take pain barrier 15 because it will prevent you from ever having to run away from a boss. 2 handed spears unless they have a swordie 3 will miss some dps opportunity because they will have to move away from the boss so they don't get knocked down or killed. If you weight in your survability + dps chances of a 1hand + shield to running away and losing your chance to dps every time a boss does something 20% boss is really minimal since you can literally hug the boss without the fear of getting killed. Passive block is pretty useful I find it more useful than actual gear defense.

You don't even need an expensive shield for it. A didel tower or rodeliene is good enough for it. Aias is also cheap considering its pretty easy to farm Harugals and that round buckler.
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This game is so hard. I have 2 practos right now, and I'm still opening boxes on 4 characters. I don't have any character that I feel is worth committing a weapon to though. There's ones that I really enjoy playing, but are bad for farming and aren't meta enough for people to invite me to Solmiki, then I have characters that are great for farming (Corsair and FF2) that are great for farming but don't need a weapon anyway.

If I don't have a character that's good for ET, what do I do with my practo?
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>>180890191
Give them to me :^)
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>>180890191
Find a build that works for ET, then change it to your tastes while still being functional.

I'm farming for a QS3ScoutFwee3, went Scout instead of A2 for minigames, but it should still work for ET.

I heard ET is easier nowadays anyway, depends on how high you want to climb.
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>>180890631
No.
>>180890640
I don't like any of the meta builds really, and if I was going to make something for ET alone I'd just make some support that takes 0 effort. I just hate how strong Corsair and FF's farming potential is, it makes it feel like farming on anything else is just a waste of time.
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>>180837013
How viable/retarded is this build
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/z277trofm3/
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>>180891160
Not clicking a link to tosbase.
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>>180890909
You don't really need to invest heavily in a farmer char, so spend your shards on something else, preferably something you enjoy playing.
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>>180891263
Is it a honeypot?
Anyways here's a snap
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>>180891413
Yeah, but what's the point in investing in gear on a character that I won't even be using to farm? This game just makes everything I do feel pointless, like they don't even understand how this genre of game works. You farm to get gear so you can farm faster to get more money/gear faster, that's how MMOs work.

On this game though, you don't even need gear to farm, you just play FF2 or Corsair. If you want ET gear, you just make a CryoChrono or Taoist, neither of which need gear.
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>>180890640
>Removing Archer2
>150crit
>On an AA build
Why
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>>180891160
Don't follow builds that look like they were written by a tard.

I have a similar class choice though C2ChapPD2
It's fine.

Avoid tosbase guides, some are good but it's like swimming in shit... not much different from here I guess.
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>>180891663
It's just a shit website where dumb BRs make horrible builds that people follow because they got a lot of reddit upvotes.

That build is fine though. I'd move some points from Mass Heal to max Exorcism and put some in Revive in Priest. You have full Healing Factor uptime at level 7, so I'd move 3 of those points to Pandemic.
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>>180891867
>>180891941
The guy recommends going full SPR because of Aspersion/Blessing scaling, is that a good idea for this kind of build or should I pour some stat points on INT?
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>>180892204
Solo the difference between SPR and INT is tiny, in a group SPR will do much more damage because the whole party gets Blessing. Full SPR is best, it'll also save you SP pots because Pandemic is super expensive with attribute.
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>>180892204
Yes for blessing

>>180891941
It was decent before it went to shit due to them falling FAR behind from their datamining guy.
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Where do i get Migantis Staff?
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>>180892523
>>180892580
Alright, thanks lads.
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>>180892592
https://tos.neet.tv/items/800009

Hunting Grounds, but the cube will have one item, can't be rerolled, and can be any weapon at all, not just a staff.
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>>180892791
Thanks
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>>180892791
*Any unidentified Migantis weapon, I should say.

Alternatively, for Purine Migantis weapons:
https://tos.neet.tv/items/800011
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>>180892592
The market place usually
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Is Mia here? How's the price on Purple HG items with their new cube fragment and DPK removal patch?
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>1 hour and 45 hours for 4 drops as a thauma
>got 2 antennas too
>21/61 leafnut shit to go
I am starting to think this weapon is not worth this trouble. Like at all. The stats are probably some of the worst in the game and I'm only getting like 4 of these things per day before I want to kill myself. Market is one thing but 1m a piece means paying 40m for the rest of the materials and I don't RMT hard enough to tank 40m on crafting materials.

I hate that map so much. It's so contested due to 3 DPK materials in there and the spawns are horrendous. No other game has ever made me feel this disgust for it.
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>>180891867
>>180891263

>shitting on based valkoria

I want newfags to fuck off
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>>180893106
40m is like one decent meal worth of dollars
You can't be that poor
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>>180893106
>1 hour and 45 hours for 4 drops
Woah, that's a lot of hours. I got 4 Grummer Antenna, 2 Leafnut tails, and 2 Caro antenna last night in an hour on my Corsair.
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>>180893106
>farming before DPK removal patch
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>>180893304
There is no DPK though
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>>180893209
>implying I clicked the link
>implying I even know or care who that is

epic name drop tho, i'm sure he'll let you suck his dick for defending his honor
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>>180892943
>with their new cube fragment and DPK removal patch?
That is still only on KTEST now. Wait a week or two.
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>>180893272
I don't believe you. I want to believe you, but I don't believe you. I know Corsair is cool, but it isn't that cool. I got the 2 antennas in the first 5 minutes when I went to the map, then focused on the leafnuts.

Grummer Antennas aren't rare at all. Cheapest DPK I know too. I get them by accident. Also that was a typo, I'm a tired man.

>>180893248
>giving money to IMC
please anon just stop

>>180893304
You know it might get worse, not better, right?
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>>180893371
>his
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>>180893395
Oh, I thought they had it already. I hope we get content on our version soon.
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>>180893489
>giving money to IMC
Not IMC though
I give to honest hardworking chinese slaves
IMC silver to dollar ratio is horrendous
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>>180893575
>charge-back-anon
how's those food coupons treating ya? in any case I think you're doing gods work, those chinks deserve nothing. keep it up.
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>>180893676
No I'm not that guy, I only charged back once when I got scammed by MMOMB
The other guy speaks about charging back completed transactions
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>>180889950

No one is ever getting killed in the content we have. "If you didn't take swordie3" is irrelevant because literally every Dragoon build takes Swordsman 3.

You're also still not addressing how a 1h spear is cheaper than a 2h spear on literally all tiers of gear.

>>180893489

With the way drops work now it's entirely possible that he's telling the truth. FF is better than corsair regardless.
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>>180893489
Oh yeah, you're right, I thought I did better. I've only done 2 hours of farming as Corsair, so I have no idea what it's normally supposed to be like. Top is last night, bottom is a couple of days ago.

I keep having these bursts of motivation to farm Astra Bow, only to get depressed about the state of Wugushi and the game in general and sell all the stuff I get after farming.
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>>180893209
I'll give Valkoria only 3 good points
1)Updatesbuild later
2)Actually puts per circle info instead of haha let's just dump it in C3
3)Isn't writing it in portuguese

Knowing archers best though that archer build is the best possible combo of classes for SR3, but choosing to max wild shot over caracole is a mistake.

The stat points are roughly right but not explained, the CON isn't needed at all though, the pet more than makes up for CON needs.

For the Chap, healing factor 10 is truly unnecesary
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>>180893946
I forgot the image.
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>>180893304
>Calling pRNG DPK
>Not knowing DPK is already gone
>Not knowing that removal of pRNG will be WORSE

Good luck since you're not farming now, while it's decent. The only problem right now with farming is channel-shared KillCount.
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>>180894130
>20000 dpk is "decent"

epic
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>>180894130
Supposedly ktest has halved the drop values since the switch from top down to RNG
Making it quite good
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>>180894187
Knowing IMC and the way they converted DPK to pRNG... 20,000 Kill Count/pRNG is going to be atrocious.

To star toff with that's 1/20,000 or 0.005% drop chance.

LEt's assume they double as >>180894261
suggests that's stlil 1/10,000 or 0.01% drop chance. Honestly that's the same as any other MMO for a rare drop, the problem is the lack of a guarantee, you could get 2 back to back, you could get none ever.

Technically you already had this, you were rolling that on your first kill, but how often did you get 2 BBs within 10-50 kills of each other? The steady increase of pRNG helps a lot, halving it will help for some things but not all.

The only benefit is not being able to be 'robbed' of your 'work', but this wasn't a problem as long as it was contained to one channel. Channel-shared KillCount is the real problem.
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>>180894460
>all the FF2 shitters reroll to Corsair
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>>180894460
its fucking retarded desu and baffling how they managed to come up with effective drop rates worse than farming shit like memory of thanatos card in RO
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>>180894460
>lack of a guarantee
retard, top down / pseudo-rng is no guarantee unless you're literally the sole person the server, on that map, farming that one mob.

I wish you retards would stop calling it a "guarantee" when it's nothing like that at all.
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>>180894719
But its a guarantee that it will drop, and even if it drops for someone else you always still had the RNG chance to get it too
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>>180894565
I have one sword still in reset state and even leveling a new character is nothing, even without the leveling events. All you need is one good tome and a ton of dungeon reset vouchers and you can make it to 300 in no time.

I'm a thauma "shitter" who earns 2x silver for everything he kills. Even if corsair can get lucky and snatch some rare drops once an hour, they'll never get as much silver. You fail to realize thaumas make like 1m every hour farming DPK items. If a instance multiply etc. drops they get 2x of those too. Corsair won't rival Thauma I'm afraid, although I wish they did. I dislike linker / FF a lot.

Does Corsair even need any gear like FF or do they need some sick loot to even survive?
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>>180893879
Pevordimas blue and Rodeleine is pretty much decent. You just +9~11 it and you hit around 2.8k p attack on it. Your choice to put either a green or a red on both.

In Klai Rodeleine is like 700k~1m and you can use it till you make an Aias which has a lot of passive block. Pevordimas is also cheap unID goes for 300k.

Another shield option is the 220 Didel which automatically has 2 slots and maga spear which is easy to make and cheap to buy. Any newbie will have at least 1m by 170 granted they don't buy everything they see and that is also enough to carry them to 315 for a while till they get a blue pevor.

Granted this is for a newbie were talking about since everybody has to start somewhere.
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>>180894931
does this (FF2) build work with pure SPR now?
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>>180894931
I farm 315 mats with a Mana-Mana and blue 315HG sword. You can pillage silver too, I made 700k in the hour I was farming those DPK mats, but that could also be because I was killing faster than a FF2.
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>>180895065
maybe works, but is weaker
dont be spr
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>>180895065
not much, you'd need thauma 3 for that.
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>>180894719
pRNG guarantees it will drop after X kills. Maybe you won't be the one getting it, but someone will.

Farm when others aren't on and you're fine, or kill faster and your chances increase as you get closer.

Let's say it's a 10k Kill item and between me and someone else we've killed 8k. I'm killing 50 a minute he's killing 10 a minute.

The drop is now at 1/2,000~ (0.05~% drop)
I've got 0.05% chance for the drop 50 times, he has only 10. If it still hasn't dropped I will still have the higher chance by number of kills.

The whole thing would be a lot less complicated if there were two changes on pRNG.
1/(DPK - [ (Amount Killed since Last Drop/2) + (Amount YOU killed since Last Drop/2))
This means that as you kill one ,half of the change goes to everyone half to you.

IF a 500 DPK item has had 250 killed by you, your chance to drop is 1/250, other people's would be 1/375.

Now, the real thing is that tracking YOUR drop should probably be by sessions to some degree, so it should be pruned after a 24hour period of not killing that mob or something similar.

This is a very simple explanation, but again would easily fix the issue.

Alternatively don't retain the player RNG past the 'channel wide drop'. Once it drops all pRNG is reset, but that player at least had it weighted towards them for the drop.
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>>180895070
Sounds cool. The screenshots you provided said 1 drop each for 50 minutes, which is identical to my thauma. Except I get 2x drops at that point.

>>180895065
You lose like 800 to 900 m.atk if you go INT. Never go SPR for Thauma unless you're going C3. Or if you're going Necro/Sorc for future balance patch, that's the only time I'd recommend SPR Thauma C2. INT will always be more but for Thauma C3, someone did the math, you come out even with swell brain INT vs SPR.
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>>180895421
I got 3 Caro in 1 hour the first time I farmed, Pillage is just random like that. Maybe I'll do another hour or two tonight, I think I might just craft an Astra Bow for my Wugushi.
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>>180837013
I'm about to play for the first time. Can I swap classes from something related to Archer to something related to Swordsman at all or is that not possible?
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>>180895675
You're limited to the classes from the one you choose first.
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>>180895360
What you're doing is literally trying to fix a broken system.

Original DPK we had was horrible.
Top down-DPK we have now is a lot better, but still terrible.

No one is guaranteed anything and with the change for DPK to be per map instead of per channel you now have people running around with Aspana's and SR wiping out entire maps before anyone else has a chance.

It doesn't promote anything but people rolling SR's from now on. Why even bother making anything else? Every kill you do is a chance % for a drop and the faster you kill, the more you build this chance up and the faster you will take it from someone else.

This current system kills thauma unless you farm at dead hours. It promotes nothing but people with Stage 10 weapons to hop on DPK maps, go channel 1, kill everything and steal from others (like literally killing peoples linked mobs), hopping on channel 2, repeating the same step, hope on channel 3 etc. etc.

What kind of dumbass thinks this is a good way to play an MMO? The health reduction further promotes this too.

1/500 DPK means 0.002%?
Kill 99.
100/500 20%,
kill 100.
200/500 40%
kill 100
300/500 60%
kill 100
400/500 80%

For the next 100 kills the chance goes up rapidly until it drops, then it's back to 0.002%?

My point being is that it doesn't feel like it works like this at all. I think the pseudo DPK doesn't increase the odds this quickly, it's more like:

1/500 DPK means 0.002%?
Kill 99.
100/500 0.2%,
kill 100.
200/500 0.4%
kill 100
300/500 0.6%
kill 100
400/500 0.8%
kill 100
500/500 one item is guaranteed to drop at this point, so 100% for ONE KILL.

Then it's back to abysmal chances all over again. People have gotten drops at 200 kills and 300 kills, but now it's impossible to keep track if this is due to other people in other channels that killed mobs for hours before you because the pseudo DPK value doesn't reset until a drop happens. So you might be entering a map with 1/500 or with 342/500. We don't know.
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>>180896421
>The system is broken because people who kill things fast have a higher chance to get items due to more rolls

Yeah no shit. And also you are wrong about how it works. It's 1/500, then 1/499, 1/498, etc. The chance goes up by a tiny amount per kill, but it's still ultimately percent chance. People complaining about the current system are just using DPK synonymously with low drop rates because they don't want to sound scrubbish.
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>>180895784
Fug, oh well. Another question if you don't mind

My friend is going Cleric so I wanted to go Swordsman. What are the best options for both offense and defense classwise? I wanted to use a 2 handed weapon if possible for tanking but a 2h weapon is mandatory for big hurts
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>>180896421
You don't add the DPK at the numerator, you substract from the denominator.
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>C*lnigger still dont understand how the current top down works
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>>180894931
>Even if corsair can get lucky and snatch some rare drops once an hour, they'll never get as much silver.
t. someone who doesn't know that pillage steals silver
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>>180896421
You completely misunderstood the system they explicitly laid out: 1/(DPK - Kills) chance

Your former example is bottom-up, and your latter example is top-down but the numbers should be 1/500 -> 1/400 -> 1/300 etc.

Someone pointed out before that statistically, you have a good chance of getting the item around halfway through the DPK though, just based on how many times you've rolled the rng by then.
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>>180896873
It's very little.

>>180896813
Epic name drop! You contributed a ton to this dead general. Not from CnL neither a nigger.

>>180897031
Thanks for clearing it up without being a shitposter. We need more people like you in this general.
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>>180896728
Tanking is not necessary in this game and far from it.
You can be a sword and board character which draws aggro from a big number of mobs, and this helps your party by making it easier and faster to progress.
2hand sword/spear classes are more or less designed for dps, it's possible to do both roles with the weapon switching mechanic, but then you become mediocre at two roles.
Murmillo/peltasta/rodelero for defense swordsman
Doppel/lancer/fencer for offense
Plague doctor/monk/inquisitor for clerics of any purpose
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>>180896728
If you want to play a "tank" you'll want Peltasta in your build.
Fortunately, there's a build that's still strong offensively while also being a tank-like so you're not really losing out on anything.
Sword3Pelt3ShinobiMurmillo
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>>180897264
>>180897435
Thanks. I'm not super concerned with a proper build right now but I wanted to know what to work towards

Last question. How's the populations on each server? We started on Orsha but we're not sure if we should move to another server for higher population
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>>180896421
Weight it towards the person. 1/2 was just an example, 4/5 1/5 also works.

Here's an example weighted by 5.

Most likely needs more of a drastic change than that, probably a multiplier, but consider that this is one more kill at this point.
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>>180897531
Orsha population is very small compared to the other NA server, klaipeda.
If you want things quiet you can stay there, if you want more people around you can switch.
In the end it doesn't really matter because both servers connect to each other in instanced activities.
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>>180897532
That's a cool concept, but why are you all so against just static % drop rates?

If IMC makes them static and crazy low, people will complain and they will buckle.

Right now people can't really complain, because it "just works if you keep farming goy". Which isn't necessarily true at all.
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>>180897676
Thanks for answering my questions anon
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>>180897532
Same scenarios with 1/10th of a kill counting for other people.

Also as percentages in case you're more comfortable with it, can be foundd here:
http://i.imgur.com/WV57HR0.png
http://i.imgur.com/WbYvN8r.png

Once you drop it to 10, 20 or lower there is basically no difference.

>>180897932
Because IMC actually brought pRNG into MMOs, has it been tried before? Probably. Has it been tried openly before? I hate that they're buckling because they're making changes in the wrong direction.

DPK was interesting, but overall meh.
pRNG is fucking perfect for farming, it means you are never actually wasting your time... except cross channel screws it.

Weighting it towards the farmer just makes the whole thing infinitely better.

Now of course if someone is farming as good as you then ;)
http://i.imgur.com/d9vGwDp.png
Your chances will be about the same, and it will still reset at said point. This is where the last number comes into effect.
Leaving it at around 5-10 means that less monsters in total must die for it.
http://i.imgur.com/wu3XlCC.png
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>was going to stay up all night and autism grind
>forgot about the maint

fug, now what do I do with all this caffeine
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>farming lv300 mats on corsair
>see golden monster
>TIME TO GET MY THAUM
>decide to click channel change arrow before relogging
>4/100
>panic kills the mob
700k + 2 dpk mats is good enough
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>>180898482
play a good game
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>>180898543
Gold monsters dont drop DPK mats though

But now that I think about it, if IMC makes everything RNG and remove DPK will gold/silver monsters be affected by that change

>gold yellow caros
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>>180898460
If IMC added an individual kill tracker, why weigh it at all? Just make top-down DPK individual so everyone is guaranteed their own drop eventually.
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>>180898460
>Weighting it toward the farmer

Completely missing the point of the system. It's not supposed to be easier to farm your own drops, the point is that "Somebody" will get the item, which mens a supply of the item will always exist for an economy to be based around.
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>>180898545
I wish there were good games. Video games are dead.
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>>180898669
That's retarded as hell and kills the concept of "rare" items
Why not just hand out free shit all the time then, why not just hand out all Orange weapons for free to everyone
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>>180898640
Silver and gold mobs don't seem to drop even their percent chance items below a certain threshold but it can be kinda inconsistent. 1/500 is too low chance for sure to show up in white/gold mob loot table, the cutoff point seems to be that any item below .5% chance won't drop from a white or gold mob.
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>>180898640
got too used to call whatever rare drop "dpk drop" at this point of the game sadly
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>>180898849
For a 10k DPK, 3 items would need 3 people to kill 30k enemies max. Under the current system, it's 1 drop per 10k enemies max. So how is that more of an impact?
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>tfw you see a bot farming 315 orange mats

fuck this shit game
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This is the perfect game not give a fuck about. The more you take this game serious the more you feel like shooting yourself.

It's so comfy to just hit the level cap and just fuck around with the beautiful maps and catchy songs. Never thought I would like a MMO like this again.
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>>180898460
>except cross channel screws it.
Now I agree with you fully.

If they did what you suggested I'd be fine with it. If it was bound to the character, or heck, party, I'd be all for it. But it isn't. It's map bound. It resets when a random guy kills the 'one mob' and you're fucked for another 30 to 60 minutes.
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>>180899306
There's a bot on our server who has stage 8 Aspana who roams Pystis forest 24/7.

No guild.

No good gear apart from the Aspana.
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>>180899404
You can only admire a song and a map design so many times. Once it wears off all that is left is the end game. End game in TOS is just as you described.
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>>180899643
This is the bot I saw. It even has a weeb name like it's a real person, but they were 100% botting for sure.
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>>180899762
Exactly. This game should be enjoyed lightly, with a nice guild and a lot of dicking around.
It does not have the content to be anything other than that, just like RO
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>>180899968
Basically you're saying 90% of the playerbase should quit.
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>>180899968
Except RO had actually endgame like MvP farming or WoE
Tos has no good endgame because most good items are tied to daily dungeon grind
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>>180899968
I just want cute Diablo2. Why couldn't they just make that?
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thanks kim
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>tfw probably made over 90 paper cubes
>gotten every recipe there is
>except shield
is the shield even worth it? no one seems to talk about it but I see it often
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>>180900172
No
>>180900191
That were infested with more bots than players. Literally.
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>>180900504
It used to be extremely potent
Now its so so
Still best looking shield, investing in fashion is never bad
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>>180900405
I was blushing at the BIG
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>>180898545
There are none
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>>180865829
>Sapper3
>trash
>Ranger3
>good
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Ranger3 is good only on SR3 because it's either Ranger2Apprasier or Ranger3 to fill the blank ranks between Archer2 and SR1
And even in that build Ranger3 has little sense
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>check memegoon attributes
>dethrone 260m to hit level 100 from my current level 30

When will this ride ever end?
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>>180898793
That's still the case.

The real point of the system is to reward work for items that are wanted. It won't guarantee it for you but it will do two things.

1)If you want a rare item that no one farms, you'll get it.

2)If there is competition, someone will get it.

The problem is that it's poorly received because of the concept of 'work' that DPK implies, and it being violated by someone just coming in.

If anything this is because of the high number near the end of the DPK cycle so it's not luck if someone comes in teh last 5-10 kills, it's literally free.

Here's an example using the coefficient 1 (what it is now basically)
http://i.imgur.com/nmWkT6u.png


What I propose is that the weight number be worked on over time, maybe 2 is fine, maybe 5-10 is good. I don't know, no one does until we test it for a bit.

I also propose it be limited to the channel and the people who are on that channel with you. Not to the player, not to the party, but to the map AND channel. This assures that any competition can be directly confronted, which is what makes this game fun the fun interactions in KSing.

Here's another example with 2 as the number, and higher farm.
http://i.imgur.com/PEHWU6U.png
Those other 2 are not benefitting strongly from the first guy so he can farm in relative peace. If he decides to AFK for an hour though, he will probably get his DPK reset by someone else getting the drop because they killed enough.

In these examples I did not negatively weight the Farmer's drop, so their kill is worth slightly more than 1 Kill. Tomorrow maybeI'll bother to work it out if it's not.
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>>180865238
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
ABSOLUTE MADMAN
EVEN DOUBLE STACK IS BETTER THAN LOLOPANTHER PISTOL AND ALL THE SR WORTH THE NAME USE ASPANA OR ARE FARMING FOR IT RIGHT NOW
NOT EVEN CORSAIR WOULD BUY THAT PISTOL OVER MANAMANA
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>>180898942
Dunno about that, i've gotten mouringaka antenna from every silver one i've killed.
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WE BOAT GIRL NOW
new event tomorrow
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post your meetup picks klaicucks

swaaz better be in the pictures because nobody cares about literal-who faggots
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>>180900894
In that build Ranger3 is clearly inferior.

I'd debate between Rogue1 and Appraiser1 only because of Sneak Hit giving you such a disgusting amount of crit, but I think Blindside definitely helps as a nuke.

I also don't know how much crit Blindside gives your following attacks through it's debuff as it's not listed.
"The effects of Blindside and the character's Critical Rate apply seperately" but since it doesn't say, it's hard to really figure out which is better.

Of course staying on their backside is it's own difficulty as well, so Appraiser is the easier choice, even if the crit it provides isn't as high.

I have no idea if Feint requires a dagger/sword either, but I assume so. I haven't played a rogue since iCBT2 and that was limited due to the job adv exploit.
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>>180865238
does it give +2 or +1 to skills, because if it's not +2 then it's not worth anything

you can make a Revolver already that gives +1 to SR skills. Use that, then swap to Aspana and you're set.
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>>180865238
You're insane!
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>>180900915
If you want to feel true hopelessness, go to the oracle master in klai and look at the top silver farmers.
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>>180901151
who is this swaaz?
btw I'm new and in futureproof xD
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>>180901198
If you go Cannon YOU HAVE TO pick Appraiser
You just cannot skip it
Rogue isn't a good choice
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>>180901360
Welp you just activated the Swaaz card. Time to abort thread.
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>>180848119
most likely healmage, because she's making a monk right now
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>>180901429
My bad didn't read that far back was just replying to that one comment that mentioned SR3 wabout ranger.

As for Cannon you want QS3, Running shot helps a lot.

A2->QS3->App->C2

Supposedly you can use kneeling shot AND running shot when using some of your cannon shit.
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>>180901360
cute shitpost dude
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>Get curious about this renewal for the drop system
>Go to kTEST and try to farm Lyoni Horns
>Got 3 and a red orb from 162 kills, in the span of 50 minutes
Is this bad or good?
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>>180900894
>+20% damage on high% Cannon skills
>better than shitty traps you won't even bother using because Cannon skills are all low cooldowns

I'm just saying my preference is Ranger for the 20% damage alone. I know people like Sapper for some reason, but the difference between the two isn't much considering Sapper skills won't have their damage increased by your Cannon's Transcendence, while 20% damage will always be relevant.
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>>180901656
Steady Aim has too much high cd and too much short duration for be more relevant than Broom Trap crits
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>>180901567
The reason people take QS3 for Cannon is because of some dumb meme with Bazooka + Running Shot, which is fine if you just want a dumb meme build, but if you're actually building around Cannon skills, QS is shit.
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So after the boat patch on kTEST they got the pet patch.

So after one week we can finally start panicking about silver inflation due to all necro pets doing 20k hits and 40k crits?
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>>180901774
This is the dumbest meme this board spouts. 15 seconds of downtime isn't bad at all, and 10s is long enough to use all your strong skills. It even lines up perfectly with the cooldown of Cannon Blast.
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>>180901839
The other choices are also shit.
Ranger is shit, but you can enjoy that +20% damage if you really want to.
Sapper is shit.
QS is a meme but worth that meme at least.
Rogue is useless.
Hunter is shit.
Let's say you take Archer3 and 2 circles of another shit. Circle 2 always sucks but y'kno
Wugu is going to be largely pointless here.
Scout is okay
Fletcher is shit and unusable
Falconer is okay, but assuming R9 comes out you want that as Cannoneer3 maxing you at Falconer3 potential in the future, so wasted since you can't get Circling:Expand.

What are you really expecting to go from R3-R4 and R6
Archer2->R3-R4->Appraiser->R6->Cannoneer2

I list Appraiser as static because it's the only class here that has REAL synergy among them.
Since only an R2 or R3 class can be taken to C3 here, your choices are literally Ranger or QS3, if you want to use Steady Aim so often, have fun. If you don't, QS3.

>>180901986
Having to cast something that's roughly 1s cast time every 25s for 10s uptime is garbage. With good dex that's 2 attacks at least.
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>>180869247
Trying again
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>>180902226
>>180901839
I should add further, almost all of the later archer builds have this problem, the archer tree clearly lacks love when it comes to synergy.

It would make full sense if QS3+SR3 had synergy with shooting both guns with RS+Limacon, but it doesn't, making QS3 which would be the obvious choice based on weapon, a worthless choice.

Falconer doesn't have this problem because it's mainly based around the weapon and it's an enabler class, so it doesn't need to be enabled, it works with everything because it's so flexible.

Hackapell has Rogue, but this is now about melee anyway.
Mergen's choices are limited by it's weapon choice, they're not necessarily amazing synergy (Fletcher, Ranger)
Cannoneer/Musketeer/SR3 benefit from subweapon so they benefit from Appraiser but that's a C1 class, you still have 2-3 no-synergy ranks you take just for a singular buff you have to castmore than once per minute instead.

Now if you work backwards you can see the problem.

Archer2/3 - Swift step crit/more. Ar2 being almost mandatory if AA build. A3 being just fluff, nothing great.
QS3 - Limits you, but you'd expect some synergy later on, but it was removed.
Ranger2/3 - Extremely open, so it's usually the choice. Not great, but not limiting so it won't become useless at least.
Sapper3 - Useless in mounted builds (Hacka, SR), weak in subweapon (Cannoneer/Musk)builds but has Falcon and Mergen so it's okay for now. Falcon is synergy, Mergen is just a case of still working for the build.
Hunter3 - I don't even know man.

QS3, Hunter3 both need a look at them.
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>>180902775
Why do you call Musketeer a subweapon build? Musket is a 2h weapon.
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>>180902735
It's not something you're going to find out by just giving your ping as a number.

I would suggest testing it, but if you want something better, there's this off of Plebbit https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIUQwjcrGtDKL8taaADFRpepc5kLaZGth_pxQYJorPM/pubhtml

Basically DEX works in tiers, so you want to be reaching near the bottom of a tier.
90 Total Dex is where benefits start to wane, but the ASpd still isn't too good. If shit ping stop here.
150 Total Dex is 2 hits per second and the next place it falls off.
230 Total Dex is where I'd stop with decent ping.

>>180902950
It's late and I had a long day, should be asleep. Good point, it has synergy there, my bad. I've never seen a Musk actually pick Sapper, but I also don't see too many Musk desu
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>>180903049
As a follow up, this s a graph by that guy who did that bracket work.
It's probably more helpful to you.
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>>180901962
there is not patch, just a event and costume.
these are easy to copypaste and not bound to anything else
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>>180903213
>there is no patch
>just event
>we download nothing
>not bound
>bound
>copy paste
you are a mental case and possibly utterly retarded
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>>180837013

Ahhhh
(TALT, TALT, TALT)
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Really deep in my soul
Let's get out, I wanna go
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Tonight I'll fight!
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I'm gonna step on the TALT
And you'll see the big show!

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'Cause I'm burning for you
It's like a hot sensation!
Got this power
That is taking me out
Yes, I've got a MEME on you
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Gonna FUNâ„¢ along 'til I get you
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Tonight I'll fly!
And be your MEMER
Yeah yeah yeah!
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And I'll be your hero

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And you'll see the big show!

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>>180903049
Musket got pretty much deleted in renewal when they nerfed Stroke Butt from 100% extra damage to 30% extra damage, without giving it some bigger numbers. Honestly I think Musket's rifle should have much higher base damage than a Bow.

Emengard Musket:
1086 - 1809

Astra Bow:
1158 - 1737

Their ranges are so similar they might as well be the same class of weapon, except Bows also get +100% damage to flying, and Crossbows get defense ignore. Meanwhile, Muskets get a 1% chance to instantly kill small monsters (worthless) and 25% more accuracy (also worthless).
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>>180903516
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>>180903468
very true mate, we'll get the next patch right after the event, because you say so.
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>>180903516
The game isn't even up, retard.
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>>180903765
seek help
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>>180903516
fucking futurecucks ruining eurobeat
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>>180903607
Wow, so muskets are basically where Fletchers were in beta.

Giving any sort of benefit towards killing small or cloth is a fucking waste, everyone can delete them, why should I give a fuck if I can do bonus damage to them.

I'm glad I've never tried a musketeer, that would just piss me off, fletcher already did that, I'll never touch one again.
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>>180903929
actually, I kind of like it, what song is that originally?
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Is cleave really just 30%?
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>>180903929
dumb frogposter
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>>180903968
I played Musket for a while, since I've been trying to find a followup to Wugushi that isn't shit. Covering Fire is literally my favorite skill in the game. It looks amazing, sounds amazing, and does great damage. It's just so bad after renewal. They buffed it slightly in a patch, but they only buffed a skill that no one used, so if you didn't have a point in it you need to buy a skill reset now.

I'm making my 4th Wugushi now, surely I'll like my followup this time!
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>>180904034
Manuel - Gas Gas Gas
>>180904115
t. futurecuck
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>>180904206
t.anally irritated frogposter
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Isn't Futureproof the only true /tosg/ guild? They've been around even before early access.

t. oldfag who plays in Orsha
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>>180905163
It died when our glorious leader fell in battle.
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>>180905304
well I wish I played on Klaipeda, I think I'd get along with Americans more than the people on my server

Pantsu posted diligantly and always interesting stuff and didn't shun away from sharing discoveries

now all we have left are bitter mental cases who can't stop shitting up the thread. /tosg/ is nothing what it used to be. I miss the old days.
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>>180905163
Not anymore thanks to some pizza loving cunt
now futureproof is full of cnl
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https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/6jqjz9/is_this_game_always_so_toxic_to_new_players/

>swaaz getting BTFO by reddit

TOP FUCKING KEK
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>>180905457
>full of CnL
you either aren't in FP or are just shitposting, futureproof only took like 5 CnLs
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>>180905540
>only 5
that's like 2 times more members than it had before they joined
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>>180905540
Who
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>>180905468
>btfo
>"he has a point"
Why the fuck are you even browsing that site
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>>180905686
>Asking for namedrops
Only one of them is an atentionwhore
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>>180906256
>if people know my name, bad things will happen
paranoid much?
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>>180905921
Well in hindsight the guy was new and Swaaz even though does have a point he shouldn't have acted all autistic but who are we kidding, he's autistic.

Today it literally took me 30 mins to get a 230 run. I managed to go make coffee and watch something on YouTube before I even got a run and that run was extremely frustrating cause I had 2 dragoons that couldn't clear the mobs because you see the other dragoon do shit damage while the other one misses. You literally see Dodge pop on the monsters head every time the other drag attacked.
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>>180892204
>>180892523
>>180892580
Why not just go full Int and buy someone else's 3k blessing?
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>>180837013
What build do I play if I want to use a big weapon and hit everyone ultra hard? Preferably with gross amounts of AoE and a huge axe
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FUCK THE NORMIES AND THE AUTISTS

FKING WAITED 25 MINS FOR A FEDI MISSION JUST TO HAVE IT END BY THE PROTECT THE TORCH STAGE BECAUSE ONE PERSON WOULDNT FKING CLICK QUE 2-4 PLAYERS

FKING RETARDS
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>>180906829
I can't blame him for worrying about it since I've seen people in this thread openly admit they bash people for being namedropped by third parties.
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>literally every post in that reddit says i have a point, not one person saying i was in the wrong, only wanted to point out i was an asshole about it

LOL the OP never even commented once

fuck the retards, and fuck anyone who gets offended over the internet, every good friend ive made in this shit game was with me being an asshole and they realized im just being a fuckboy online and dont like filtering myself so they continued to message me in a similar fashion but also in a way thats not meant to be hate speech or harassment its just unfiltering yourself online because who gives a flying fuck

fucking cry on reddit bitch fuck you sick of these shits taking everything personal take this shit personal faggot and fuck off the internet this aint nobodys safe space if you want to get hurt over words
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>>180907336
Oh great, here comes another doppel. See the official site's common build rankings for examples.
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>>180907850
Go back to other edgy teenagers on reddit, faggot.
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the party i was in was level 320+

he wasnt new, hes just a literal retard

fking kids man

HAHA JOKES ON YOU I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED IM ACTUALLY NEW HAHA

- lv320+ and in ravens guild

SURE BRO
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>>180907339
Not clicking queue 2-4 players for missions at r8 should grant an autoban
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>>180907947
nigger who the fuck you calling a reddit user just because i spam reddit once every 2 months when i make a new video doesnt make you any less of a normal fag for clicking on that link and seeing what it was to begin with fuckwad

dont you give me any attitude you prissy little cunt faggot bitch
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>>180907907
Big smashy weapon was my primary choice but since I'm a new player I don't really know how party dynamics work in this game. Are dedicated dps/tanks/support needed or is everyone mostly a hybrid or something?
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What's the best leather armor for SR? I'm using Cafrimeme right now, should I go for Manahas? or go for critrate build?
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alright assholes i get home at midnight on mondays and theres jack shit to do so ill see you fuckboys tomorrow

to the anon who wanted pelt advice, shoot me a pm on youtube or comment on one of my shit videos. im always willing to give advice to a fellow tank spank meatshield

make sure to use foul language to trigger the normies, god forbid we invade anyones safe space on the internet
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>>180908037
Tanks don't really exist, just attackers who happen to be durable enough to take hits. A standard party has some dedicated dps, some hybrid dps/support due to the fact that very few support builds are full support so they usually lose nothing by being hybrids, and one or two chronomancers, who actually have a reason to be full support. The dedicated dps must invest fucktons of silver into their giant weapons.
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>>180908157
Mnahas
Only update to that is 7/7 Solmiki Leather
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>>180908274
Assuming a two man party, what kind of hybrid is good for a person partying with a cleric who has a small dick and has a big weapon to compensate?
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>>180908274
RUSSIAN FAKE NEWS, I GET TAKEN TO SOLMIKI EVERYDAY FOR BEING BEST TANK NA

k im actually done now

oh and the normie replied in his reddit drama thread, lots of fun stuff happening tonight. someone besides you retards actually got triggered by me for once
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>>180908037
The whole game is mostly hybrids, the only thing that each build has an optimal path to have the best results in buffs, damage and survability.

But if you let say want to go sword 1, Peltasta 1, barb1, squire1, rodelo1, Hoplite1, shinobi, and murmillo you can and surprisingly they all have a decent synergy with each other. The only biggest thing is that you will only max out on level 5 most of them and lose out on circle 2 and 3 for a higher level skill and some new high damage skills or utilities.
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>>180908450
>2 man party
>cleric

Literally anything works once you just throw a cleric into the mix.
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>>180908480
>>180908545
Good to know. Thanks

Just how hard is it to fuck up a build in the long run anyways? Can you reset?
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>>180908459
God your comment actually made me frustrated more on the guy who was complaining and I actually felt like you being a snarky asshole is well needed to kick some sense into that guy. You might be an insufferable but you do have a point.
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>>180908605
We had a reset everything around May because of the rebalance patch. Unfortunately you can only reset your skills and stats for money during this time and if you want free resets you have to wait for the Rank 9 or maybe the balance patch again in a few months.

I got gimped builds again and I also need to fix them but as long as you don't put int or spr on melee or when the class doesn't need it you should be fine.
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>>180908712
Got it, thanks
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>>180908459
>Siaulai mission
>needing healers

I actually can solo that mission. Is that idiot serious? I ain't even a whale and a memegoon to boot and I can solo that with just hp and sp pots. Sure it might take me 15 minutes but at least I know I can. I only did it though to test out how much silver I can get doing it solo.
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>>180908992
he legit is pulling the "guys im a newbie why is he soo mean" card when hes lv320 and in ravens

now hes all out lying saying "ya well there was 4 support characters and nobody was rushing the mission so i was being rude for no reason

like for real why cant this retard just call me out for being an asshole but this is legit getting sad, there were 4 dps builds + whatever the hell he was. some whale SR was melting everything and the golem was dead within 40 seconds.

hes desperately trying to make me look like an asshole but in the wrong way, instead of saying "wow look this guy is rude af" hes legit trying to justify being an idiot and EVERY single reply in that thread says i have a point lmao
>>180908638
theres nothing else to do since its maintenance, and i find pleasure in fucking with people who take things personal over the internet

safe space liberal leftist cuck gettin triggered tonight boys
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>>180908032
Pathetic sperg.
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>>180909298
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>>180909228
Wait aren't you in Ravens as well?
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>>180907721
who gives a giant fuck about some literal nobody losers on /tosg/ bashing you? insecure much?
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>>180908157
Manahas but enjoy paying 40m for the entire set that some losers rarely farm.

It takes 8 hours of resetting to get one armor piece. I can't find a chrono to cut this in half on my server, otherwise I'd farm it. It simply isn't worth it. Defenses make very little difference to a SR's job. All you do is farm HG / dungeons. You have no place in ET unless you can dump 80m into retreating shot and have Aspana stage 8 minimum. Without that kind of investment you are not going to contribute much.

So the question is: Do you really need Manahas' defenses at all for what you're doing?
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>>180910667
That's fucking harsh. I got told to just get a not shit armor and get level 3 circling attribute on my Sap3falc3 and I'll be wanted in a lot of ET runs.
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>>180911056
Just sell your pract and dump all the money into Circling: Expand.
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>>180911328
I'd probably do that when I get the pract from my falconer's box. Just have to get it to 317 first.
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>>180911056
Falcon 3 is ET proof and future proof. You can act as support for others. No worries there. You don't even need manahas. I would even advice getting a virtov armor set for cheap and focus on making a decent weapon. I wrongly assumed you're a SR beause manahas was made for SR and QS and no one else.
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>>180909459
That picture sums you up perfectly. Way to BTFO yourself.
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>>180911586
Oh I'm a different anon but I got told the same as what you're telling me. Also they told me to just a Kaulas or Albinosas since it is cheap. Virtov I got recipes for it and a lot of the 260 cube since I never opened them so if I decide to make them I can easily just do it myself.

For weapons though I'm looking into Migantis since I really don't want to invest 3m on an unID Pevor blue and a purine pevor is just too expensive since I'm just doing support stuff and be a circling slut.
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>>180910667
Manahs extra line is a lot stronger than cafrisun
Plus the set bonuses and of course the stats are good too, only problem you need to have people who would enjoy helping you getting the set
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>>180911692
You aren't a fucking Chrono though. People will expect you to pull some weight. Get the weapon or don't go into ET. ET is all about money investment and time investment for gains.

>>180911758
>a lot stronger
Stop.

>extra stats
Yes, but not worth the price tag or effort. Other armors do the same job and you're better off investing that time / money into your weapon, not a mediocre set that is insanely hard to farm / expensive. Go for it, who gives a shit, but it's not as amazing as you're making it out to be.
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>>180911847
So which is it? Migantis or Pevor?
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>>180912296
Migantis is the 270 one? Always go with the 315 one. Anvils give it more boost and the base damage is better. Always sort the market by level.

Easiest way to check all weapons / armor is to set the minimum level to 315. If Migantis is the only weapon you can afford? I'd still save up for the Pevordimas.

Only exception to this self rule for me is the leather armor set. 270 and 315 are identical (Albino and whatever the other one is called). Identical crit rate. Only difference is the defense values.
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Someone convince me to not dump 30m silver into my Wugushi RIGHT NOW.
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>>180912663
no one cares
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>>180912663
Do it faggot and post results
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>>180912732
>>180912834
I'll compromise. It's all for my 3rd Wugushi C3 after all. This will be the one I like for sure!
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Why have I seen exactly 0 Psychokinos ever?
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>>180913420
You haven't done TBL.
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Bets?
GBL?
Rank 9?
WB rework?
New Klaipeda?
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>>180913567
Probably just world boss rework.
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>>180913567
I only read this as "Nothing but shit event and gatcha for the next 3 months ehehe :^)"
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>>180913567
PvP has yet to be reworked in Korea
Rank 9 is still 6+ months away, if it ever gets delivered.
It's WB reworks but
>end of summer
So basically IMC told us nothing worth for atleast 2 months will be made for us
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I wish I could fire everyone who thought it was a good idea to have enemies band back to their starting positions before losing aggro through player death or leaving the area.
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>>180912656
So I guess I get Albinosas and Pevor.

I actually can afford all of them but my main is my Drag so I'm just iffy about spending money on alts at the moment but if it brings me to ET I would even spend 10m on a purine pevor bow.
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>>180901607
>162 kills
>in 50 minutes
Nigger what
3 horns in 162 kills is great though.
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>>180913567
New Klaipeda will come earlier than that. World bosses are a likely candidate. Rank 9 probably isn't far enough along in development to pick a release date yet since IMC surely realizes they're going to have a bugfest like they always do. GBL probably won't happen until after rank 9 since there's no point in doing it without doing a major PVP rebalancing too.
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>anvil event ended
>couldn't get +11 on my elememe orange weapon
>not enough golden anvils gained
Time to get an Astra Bow and make my Falcon3 the MVP of my team
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>>180914573
>orange 315 on support slut character
why
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>>180914862
Sapper3Falcon3 isn't a pure support, it's a competent AoE DPS with excelent support on top of that
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>>180914960
delusional
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Best mace for lvl 200+ ?
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>>180915113
tos.neet.tv
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>>180915012
no he's retarded
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>>180913471
Are they any good for dungeons/PvE?
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why is levelling up without premium tomes so fucking tedious in this game?
10 minutes for a dungeon, 700% exp bonus and still only manage to get 1-2 levels in total at lvl 165.
fug dat
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>>180915708
the game is boring by itself retard

why the fuck are you playing tos for fun?
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>>180915708
600% is shared amongst 5 players
retard
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>>180915980
better to solo then?
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>>180916070
600%/5 > 100%

Additionally, the time is faster than killing shit alone.
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>>180915181
>she thinks Sap3Fwee3 isn't a top tier DPS
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>>180916290
fucking right. just soloed one and took me hell lot of a time without even getting bonuses
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>>180915708
Because it's an mmorpg.
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>>180847962
>luluco
>shitty show
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>There's a fuckin cutscene for this event, following up on new lore
What the hell IMC? You're trying to hype me up with all this special treatment and it's working.
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Did anyone else gems disappeared after the maintenance?
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>>180917697
Oh wait, nevermind, I just remembered that I wiped out yesterday when trying to solo a dungeon.
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>>180917594
Trigger is a bad studio on the level of whichever one keeps cranking out season after season of Teekyu.
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>>180917872
It's literally /ourstudio/
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>>180915708
>10 minutes
>only manage to get 1-2 levels
That's an absurdly fast pace which forces players to skip content. You're a retard who doesn't want to play because you've been spoiled by tomes and events, so all you can think about is trying to have more epeen than the next tome junkie. If everyone else took an hour to get a level, you'd be happy and bragging about your current pace.
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>>180918198
Has 4chan ever produced anything of significant value, merit, or worth?
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Hmmmmmmm
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>>180919673
i want her to sit on my face
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>>180918821
Depends on what you see as value. It's pumped out a lot of art, some translations, a few more or less pointless autistic investigations and a lot of memes. We don't have any nobel prize winners (probably) but it's not all bad.
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>>180906856
Why not just not take blessing?
Whynot just dropp priest?
Why not just play a swordsman?

Blessing has a hit limit, you're there to properly use it when it runs out, there's other reasons too though.

>>180907956
>Lvl 320+
What the hell, it read like he was in 50/80 dungeon or some shit.
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>>180918821
Yes.
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Owo 37 hours of resetting in total according to some nip
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>>180920509
Forgot my pic
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>>180920509
Jesus Christ
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>>180920571
Nani ka na nani ka na~~
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>>180920571
Where is that?
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>>180921136
Says it's Topes Fortress, so they must've just gotten really lucky with a change mob, and went to a dead map's secret area to be safe with it.
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>>180921136
Topes Fortress
>>
starting again since the beta

Do I still need to save cards?
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I love capyba so fucking much!
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>>180921386
t. capyba
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>>180921410
Not really.
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>>180921372
no, now it's easy to level just use cards whenever you feel like it
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>>180920240
Because Priest does not have enough skill points as it is you can just not spend precious skill points on buffs you can just buy while being a full support that can do reasonable amounts of damage with your PD aids.
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how do I grind from lvl 167 to 170?
I feel like the lvl 140 dungeon will give too low exp
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>>180921563
are you retarded or what..?
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>>180921563

You realize Blessing has a hit count limit that you reach in no time at all if you're not sitting in a corner jerking off?
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So for the Sorc update, does SPR effect Bats as well?

They are summons, they have health and everything.
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>>180921825
>[ dark - magic ]
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Coffee is lv13 now, we are getting in the big boys league!
We are also looking for more anons new or old
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>>180922286
are there any good level 13 guild raids, or is it just roughly the same as level 12?
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>>180922394
>>180922286
hauberk is at lvl 14
hurry up goys
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>>180922562
Talt is at 25k on Fedimian now
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>>180922706
>25k talt
Jesus christ
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>>180922706
Nice
Soon We'll see alchs turn gold bars into talt
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>>180922817
might be cheaper
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>>180922706
Time to sell talt and buy it once it gets cheaper!
>>
Time to sell talt so your guildmates buy it to upgrade your guild.
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ET bosses should drop talt, a lot of it
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They should put back the old rewards for GvG (minus TP rewards). You could get like 5k talt just for being in top 10 if I'm not mistaken.
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how do I play with /tosg/ I'm so lonely
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>>180923905

You don't. Join a normie or reddit guild and you'll be much happier. There's a /tosg/ in my normie guild and he's by far the biggest faggot in the guild.
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>>180923905
which server?
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>>180924039
Is it yourself?
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>>180923905
Read the OP you fucknugget.
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>>180924039
But you're also a tosg in your normie guild...
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>>180923905
Don't, there aren't any cute girls or traps.
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>>180924307
>>180924274

Well, I can't say I don't deserve this. There's two /tosg/ in my normie guild and they're both faggots.
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>>180924335
not even traps? ok thanks for saving my time i thought girls might play a cute looking chink f2p mmorpg like this
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>>180924129
SEA, closest to NZ I guess.
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>>180924335
yes there are, you just haven't met them.

sorry anon.
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>>180924394
But I do play this cute looking chink f2p mmorpg.
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>>180924746
c u in cyberspace bb
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>playing SR3 with controller in tymeris
>lying on bed
>almost falling sleep while just holding pistol attack under limacon
If only this class wasn't so good for this kind of job
>>
Who's awesome?
(You)'re awesome!
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>>180925249
isn't SR3 only good with very low ping?
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If you fund a ChapKabbaInquisitor (like, skull smasher transcended with the burn attribute maxed) can it be a feasible support/DPS on Solmiki?
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I know it's a stupid question, but how do I increase bleeing past lvl15?
Pardoners sell lvl 17 blessings, how is it possible?
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>>180925625
nice meme
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>>180925775
Divine Might + monster gem
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>>180925670
>support
Yes
>dps
lol nope
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>>180925873
I imagine you can socket in just one gem right?
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>>180925954
yes, you can't stack more than one gem
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>>180925817
but it's true m8
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>>180926019
nice, if only blessing gem didn't cost fucktons on silver
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>>180925316

cute
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>>180925919

I just want to contribute to DPS. My guild is overloaded on supports and I only made supports with all the compensation. My Inquisitor is the only thing even resembling possibly doing DPS... besides my dragoon.
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Hey guys, I want to give this another shot. Haven't played since the OBT but recently heard about hunting grounds which seem fun.

On which server are the yurofags playing? Also are there any viable summoner builds?
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>>180926224
You definitely can contribute to DPS, but don't expect to carry alone.
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>>180926271
Eurofag here playing on Klaipeda because I don't want to play with subhuman slavs and other ESLs.
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>>180926462

Oh, I never expected to carry, just to be able to help push a couple of tards over the finish line.
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>>180926271
On the one who says [Europe] before the name.
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>>180926271
>heard about hunting grounds which seem fun.
They are not.

>On which server are the yurofags playing?
see OP
>Also are there any viable summoner builds?
no
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>>180926271
I'm yuro and playing on klai but I believe there's a fairly active /tosg/ community on fedi so I would advise just going for it.
Also, summoner builds will soon get buffed, making their attack scale with the matk of your weapon, but right now they're not very good
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>>180926271
>On which server are the yurofags playing?
On the european one of course, don't listen to dumb burgers trying to falseflag.

>Also are there any viable summoner builds?
Summoners are a bit weak right now but soonâ„¢ they be fully viable, since they got buffed a lot in korea.
This seems to be one of the most popular summoners build
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2133366ff
Some other try to fit necromancer in there too, but for me ending in warlock is much better.
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>>180926675
>hunting grounds arent fun
>not playing an SR or PD2
Only have yourself to blame
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>>180926271
>EU
Fedimian
>Summoner builds
Sorc2+ builds
You are lucky, they are getting buffed soon
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Hello /tosg/, I'm here to say good bye. Thanks to this ultra cancerous captcha I'll stop posting in 4chan for now. Seriously, it simply won't work anymore. I had to select more than 20 "street signs" that I did absolutely right only to the captcha to ignore my efforts and I tell me to select "cars". After selecting 4 or so cars, it starts to delay before giving me more images and I had to reload it and well...select street signs again and again.

Few months ago this shit worked nicely, usually asking for "store front" and it worked smoothly, not this shit is unbearable. I'm sorry, /tosg/. Anon is kill.
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>>180926680
>>180926517

Fucking europoors get the fuck off my american server you disgusting subhumans
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>>180926809
Nothing of value was lost.
Just natural selection at work.
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>>180926809
did you try using legacy captcha? check the inbuilt extension options
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>>180926842

Are you a nigger? Because if not your heritage is european, you uneducated faggot.
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Could some based anon come to prison district area 2 in the first isolation area and blow away the necro that has been afk farming there for the last 6 hours? I need to kill monsters there but obviously can't cause his army of skeleton kills my target first...
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>>180926809
You can still use legacy captcha instead of the dumb shit google uses now.
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>>180926954
post channel and I'll be on my way
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>>180926809
fucking 4chin pass with paypal when

usually still not very bad captcha for me tho
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>>180927019
>>180926954
oh and also, which serrver?
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>>180927019
klaipeda ch1
Also, Is it true that you can kill afk farmers eith warlock evil spirits?
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>>180926809
Yeah this shit is retarded
Use legacy
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>>180927019
oh thwy're in isolation area 2 and 3 too
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>>180926809
>>180927210
BOTS BTFO
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>>180927150
>>180927251
I'm coming, but it'll take me a few minutes since I don't have the statue there
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>>180926907
>>180926913
>>180926987
>>180927074

Well, I'll try that old captcha setting later but for now I'll just take some air, walk my dog and farm something in our favorite korean wild ride.

4chin pass might be a solution but I like the (weak) captcha idea because it stops me from shitposting too much and I don't like hiro enough to give him money
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>>180926925
I was born and raised in America and so have my parents
No one gives a shit about crap that happened 200 years ago eurocuck
Get the fuck out
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>>180927292
no prob, thnx m8
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>>180927019
>>180927123
>>180927292
post result
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>>180926913
>>180926987
>>180927210
I love you guys.
>>
Thanks for all the answers, you seem like a nice community. Think I'll roll on Klaipeda, if the ping is okay.

Few more questions:

Can you reset stats/skills/classes or is each decision finite?

What about Bokor as a summoner?

Game is almost done downloading, what are the first things I should do when starting a new character? Is there anything important I can miss?

Should I install addons right away or are they just for advanced users?

Thanks in advance.
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>>180926053
It's not. It's just better with lower ping, it's still quite playable with lesser you just need to shift your dex/str investment.
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>>180927476
FUCK OFF MY SERVER YOU DUMB EUROSHITTER
GO PLAY ON FEDIMIAN WITH YOUR REDDIT GUILDS
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>>180927476
>Think I'll roll on Klaipeda
Good, go there you sound retarded
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>>180927528
what is the distribution for 200ms ping?
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>>180927476
Why do you

Type like this

It's obnoxious
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>>180927476
>Can you reset stats/skills/classes or is each decision finite?
stats and skills only from expensive premium shop items. or rare event rewards

classes usually not. except for very rare event rewards when we had re-balance and maybe/probably when rank9 comes

>What about Bokor as a summoner?
zombies are weak, but bokor has other decent skills

>Game is almost done downloading, what are the first things I should do when starting a new character? Is there anything important I can miss?
not really. do quest and dungeon to lvlup. grind not worth it before 200 and not much needed

>Should I install addons right away or are they just for advanced users?
some are very nice to have but they are not necessary. people love betterquest addon. use some whenever you want
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>>180927476
>Can you reset stats/skills/classes or is each decision finite?
you can reset stats and skills but it costs real money, so think before you decide to do anything and ask here if you have any doubts
>What about Bokor as a summoner?
Bokor zombies are okay, they'll be better in the future (getting buffed soon), but the zombies are not the main focus in most bokor builds. Also, bokor goes well with PD. And Bokor 3 has damballa, which allows you to make your zombies explode, I think it's quite decent.
>Game is almost done downloading, what are the first things I should do when starting a new character? Is there anything important I can miss?
Your team name is important, your character name is not. Try to get to 50 in the first day so you can run dungeons (every day you get 2 or 3 dungeon entries). Buy pardoner buffs whenever you have enough money to have a much faster leveling experience (with blessing you oneshot all mobs with autoattacks).
>Should I install addons right away or are they just for advanced users?
addons are really good for new players, like the map exploration one or betterquest, CD tracker helps but the default setup is very bloated and you need to tune it down.
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>>180927476
The reddit spacing meme is real
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>>180927476
> Think I'll roll on Klaipeda
No
Fuck off to EU server retard
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>>180928029
Reminder that this shit comes from EU players.
Thats how desperate they are to get one more potential guild mate. And this is why you should avoid maybe not Fedimian as a whole, but the "tosg" guilds in there for sure.
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first necrotrash down
two should be down but one of them wasn't actually afk
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>>180928147
DId the non-afk one say anything to you?
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>>180928223
no he just quietly started using frost pillar
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>>180928132
lol no fuck off, we don't want to deal with reddit spacing retards like that one.
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>>180927659
>2
Hard to give exacts with a number.

Pick somewhere in this bracket and stop at it, if you stop seeing gains after the 5-7th dont go higher
https://i.imgur.com/uVKUQi4.png
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>>180928147
>>180928324
how do you kill them..? Red orbs?
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>>180928324
Maybe it's a macro that he uses once he's at low health.
I was thinking about making one like that
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>>180928132
>wanting reddit on tosg NA
>>
Think I'm going to use this build, any objections?

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/?reference=p38lsdtg13
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>>180928512
>tosbase
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>>180928324
>>180928147
>>180928528
based
Always wondered, what happens to the gems they drop?
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>>180928575

What's wrong with the site? I don't know any better.
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>>180928512
>tosbase
You are new ok, but dont post that shit site here ever again
use tos.neet
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>>180928673
They disappear, other people can't collect them, sadly.
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>>180928392
whats HPS..?
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>>180928512
no build and stop using that cancersite
see OP
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>>180928785
Hits Per Second
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>>180928785
hits per second
>>
Whoever makes next op, just put a disclaimer to not use tosbase because it's outdated/misleading/theorycrafted, and that way people can stop sperging about it too.
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>>180928717
It's not quite outdated but it's outdated. Flled with BR builds that are shit.

Just use tos.neet.tv
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>>180928949
no use
see
>>180928717
>I don't know any better.
>>180837013
>>>Database, skill planner and other stuff
>https://tos.neet.tv/
>>180928717
>I don't know any better.
>>180928717
>I don't know any better.

>What guild
FUCKING OP

>who leader
FUCKING OP

People dont read OP
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>>180928949
Nobody reads the OP sadly
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>>180928949
>implying people use the OP
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>>180928949
reading OPs is as outdated as using tosbase
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>>180928924
>>180928938
thank you, but I still quite don't understand that graphic
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>>180929164
It's how much hits per second you do depending on the amount of DEX.
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>>180929164
>I still quite don't understand that graphic
Dude what, graphics like that are elementary school stuff.
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Okay, let's see how this goes.
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>>180929164
Attack Speed works in brackets basically.

Let's say you have Dex at 150 that's Bracket 7 (150-189)
Let's say you have Dex at 192 that's Bracket 8 (190-229)

The longer the line is, the longer to get outof that bracket and into the next one.

Dex280 is for examlpe a long bracket, the ASpd betwen 280 dex and 339 won't change, until you hit 340. So you aim for the start of a bracket like that to get most benefit.

7, 8, 9 and 10 are good brackets to aim for. If you go past it stop at the beginnig of 13, or 15.

Never stop at 14 because it's so little between 14 and 15 that you might as well push that 20 dex.
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>>180929356
niceme.me name
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>>180928324
>>180928147
based
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this is the one I couldn't kill because he's not actually afk, sometimes checks the game and kills the mobs I send, guess it can't be helped
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>>180929356
>Attentionwhore avatarfag nameposter
I've been missing those
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>>180929356
Please get a trip so I can filter you.
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>>180929420
shibbolethed a filthy reddit shitter

Keep up the good work
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>>180929414
Oh poor anon.. but dont worry.. i can do that too!
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>>180929370
k thanks, I just didn't get what he meant for stat distribution dex/str based on hts.
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>>180929642
Yeah but I want fresh blood
Its just Mia and Capy posting
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>>180929356
Please, you didn't rolled on Klaipeda right? we don't want your kind here
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>>180929929
>you didn't rolled
How to out himself as a subhuman Fedicuckmaster
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411222c.1a29355561.1f213f4551627591.153545
Is this a good build?
Plan to go either plague or inquisitor afterwards
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>>180929993
I am an eurocuck on Klai, i just dont want retarded attention whores
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>>180929993
>How to out himself as a subhuman
You just outed yourself as a subhuman esl thirdie, probably mexico or south american am I right?
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>>180929642
you're old and busted, we didn't get any new attention whores in a while.
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>>180929929
No fuck off you keep it now.
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Okay, again, am I making any mistakes here? Also is it true that I should go pure spirit?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#213336999.152535.21394f7585.157585.2561768a95b5
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>>180929929
You, not "we"
In fact you're the one that's not wanted you filthy friendless euroshitter
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>>180914534
My gear is terrible and Nuaele was around so I had to be careful, to be honest that new system feels like that "dpk bug" thing
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>>180930369
>retarded brazilians cry that the DPK bug is the best shit ever and it should just be permanent
>IMC increases the droprates so high it actually becomes permanent
Rip this company
Listening to forumtrash and facebook comments is the worst mistake you can do
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>>180930369

Well it's literally completely RNG now so we need a bigger sample size than that.

>>180930482

We need to hear more about it before saying stuff like that. I'm surprised there isn't more information out there.
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>>180930482
This, a good leader doesn't listen to the complains of the plebs
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>>180930543
You're right, I was farming on an empty channel and I think kTEST drop rates are higher, however I can test with another rare drop that you would like
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>Event Window works now
Nice

>Mourningbird Undamaged Wings
Ok too. Only trash yesterday.
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Soon the only rare thing will be purine purple only
Everything getting its droprate increase
Free RNG for everyone
No rares, no shinies, nothing good to play for except grind Solmiki for that 7/7 Solmiki status

Remember when grinding DPK mats was hard because monsters didnt die in just 2 hits?
Remember when Orange weapons were rare
It's all gone my men
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>>180930745
Can you test farming a bit for the boater from infrorocktors in siaulai west?
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>>180930868
>Soon the only rare thing will be purine purple only
Cube pieces
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>>180930856
>Mourningbird Undamaged Wings
That's trash too, they sell for like 20k on my server.
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>>180930984
Oh true nevermind haha, this is so bad
No item variety, no flavor gear, nothing special nothing rare, only "rare" thing (solmiki gears) is artificially rare from a huge daily-grind and silver wall
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>>180931089
>No item variety, no flavor gear, nothing special nothing rare
And its been like that for long time. No news..
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>>180930856
What can you do with fish
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>>180931214
Stick it in
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>>180931254
Your mouth and eat it!
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>>180931254
>>180931328
kek
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Anyone experienced in both Wugu3>Mergen and Flecter3>Mergen?

What is overall better.
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>>180931214
One of them is 'better' bait. Kinda rare, i got oly 8 since start.

The other we can eat at a Fire and get a 10 minute HP+SP recovery buff.
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>>180931462
wugu's a shit
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>>180931462
Both are shit
Wugu3 is the shittiest shit in the game though
Only contested by Krivis3 and Pyro3
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this geimu has really nice gfx desu
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For this event if I want the costume, do I have to hand in 100 all at once or can I just hand in 10 at a time for 10 days.
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U'r all Gaxfish. fuck off already
>>180931791
>>180931791
>>180931791
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>>180931794
Come on, it's right on the home page of the website.
https://treeofsavior.com/event/waysofthepirates/
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>>180931462
I tried both during reset.
Wugu does no damage, Fletcher does ok single target.
Mergen is shit though.
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>>180929706
Basically you want to satisfy your DEX to reach one of the brackets wher you are still gaining ASpd, since ASpd is capped by ping, there's no point in you going full DEX although that's optimal for QS3 or SR3 (or any auto attacker) it's unrealistic because of the ping limitation.

So you're better off probably stopping somewher around the 150-250 dex point depending on ping.
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