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YGO General #2539
Fun Battle Traps
Last Thread >>180665226
New mechanic, Link Summoning: https://ygorganization.com/ekisotorarinkuexclamationpoint/

● YGOPro is an automated simulator.
>YGOPro (Windows): http://www.mediafire.com/file/nlcz47swc8bl4af/ygopro-1.033.D-Percy.exe
>YGOPro (Mac): http://www.mediafire.com/file/6vvclua195urlb9/ygopro-1.033.D-Percy.dmg
>High Quality YGOPro Images: https://mega.nz/#F!3xRSSZLD!n5HAXjFTVV8g-ha3I_5SsA
>Manual Card Updates (place inside the expansions folder): https://github.com/Ygoproco/Live2017
● Duelingbook is a manual simulator
https://www.duelingbook.com/

Useful Links:
>Current Official Rulebook: http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf
>Wiki with a wealth of information for the players: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
>Official /dng/ ruling test: https://testmoz.com/466984
>Hypergeometric Probability Calculator: http://yugioh.party/
>Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market: http://yugiohprices.com/

>OCG decklists:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html
>TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists

>TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Cyverse Link Structure Deck (June 17th)
●OCG: Circuit Break (July 8th)
●OCG: Deck Build Pack: Spirit Warriors (August 11st)
●OCG: Extra Pack 2017 (September 9th)
●OCG: Structure Deck R: Surge of Divine Radiance (September 23rd)
●OCG: Extreme Force (October 14th)

●TCG: Pendulum Evolution (June 23rd)
●TCG: Battles of Legend: Light's Revenge (July 7th)
●TCG: Starter Deck: Link Strike (July 21st)
●TCG: Code of Duelist (August 4th)
●TCG: 2017 Mega-Tins (August 25th)
●TCG: Legendary Duelists (September 8th)
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CAC DISCORD WHEN
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How much of the game would be improved if Konami actually playtested their cards?
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>>180887821
https://discord.gg/zyYHTb
Here I'll work further on rooms and shit later.
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>>180888203
probably a good amount
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>>180888203
Nothing.
Konami would still release shitty cards and broken cards on purpose.
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>>180888392
Is this the one with programming anon?
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>>180888991
Only 1 persons joined it so far so no.
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>>180888972
a discord account
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Obligatory
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>>180890127
back to your own board f/a/ggot
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>>180890393
>back to your own board
Ah, the irony.
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I didnt think cards from the game sold this much
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>>180890660
classic meme right there
next you'll show the dmg
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>>180890841
Nah
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>>180890127
fuck you mean obligatory
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>>180890660
What is this PSA shit?

>>180890916
Why is it so much?
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>>180891564
It's a short print game promo.
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>>180891564
No fucking Idea, and its only 1 fucking card. Like whats going on in MTG that one card is so expensive

Theres also that one Black Luster card rumored to be up for 10mill
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Post your cardfus
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fuck off
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No wait hold up, just found this
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>>180892234
I wish each charmer had theyr own DT tribe.
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>>180892073
Imagine if Pot of Greed was legal, but it only existed about 200 in the whole world.

Some cards don't get reprinted in MtG. Ever.
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>>180892307
Oh yeah, the one with the chains forcing them together.
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>>180892307
uhh surely they mean
>>180892497
ova special right
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>>180892497
>>180892593
Yeah, I guess they somehow couldnt find the image or something
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Testing out pendulum magicians. Anyone wanna fill me in on the win condition on this deck? I can't even use reference builds because everyone's is so different. The 2 that topped at the wcq completely different
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HANATE MONSTA
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>>180894727
try zarc.dek
if not, oepd/servant starving venom/servant clear wing beatdown works too
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>>180890393
>>>/tg/
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>>180894727
It's one of the few archtypes where there are more good cards than you have room for.
Using Sky Iris on Iris Magician with Star Pendulumgraph out means you're searching out three cards every turn. You can do the same thing on your opponent's turn with Time graph. You win off generating insane advantage.
Harmonizing Magician nets you Rank 4 and Level 8, including Timestar which keeps the ball rolling even further.
Nobledragon, which you can mill of Timestar, combined with general Odd-Eyes with Astrograph (who also generates advantage on its own) gives you Rank/Level 7. Tuning Magician lets you ladder into Crystal Wing.
You also have searchable Odd-Eyes Fusion for Vortex or any other dragon and free Supreme Starving Venom since all your monsters match the condition. The other two Supreme King extra deck monsters are also insanely good.

You can also try to go for Zarc, but that's inefficient, clunky, and you genuinely don't have extra deck room for it.
You can try Supreme King builds, and while that lets you do some neat things, pure Magicians is more consistent and bricks much less.

There's genuinely dozens of ways to build the deck.
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>>180892073
>>180891564
In MTG, you cast spells with mana. You usually get mana from lands. Lands like Underground Sea can produce 2 kinds of mana, with no penalty whatsoever. In yugioh terms, imagine a card that would work with more than one archetype. AND you can run lands called fetchlands to fish it out from the deck. UB tends to be the most powerful color combination, so UB related shit tends to be more expensive.The price is drastically inflated regardless. PSA Graded Beta Underground Sea at 9 is worth 6,500.
>what is this PSA shit
Past a certain point (usually when cards reach over $500), the chances of hitting a counterfeit or having someone sell you a heavily played card as near mint drastically go up. When you get PSA graded, you can just take a pic of the card itself and sell that shit on ebay. It's proper insurance for the buyer.
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>>180895164
i'll look into the latter, not a fan of zarc
>>180895717
thanks for the info m8
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>>180895717
does this deck survive on link format?
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>>180896786
It's gotten a few tops in the OCG here and there, so it's still passable as a rogue deck. Magicians are probably the only usable Pendulum archtype post-Links, unless I'm forgetting something obvious.
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>>180896786
you can easily make a link monster or two on your first turn
if that fails, you still have oafdragon for extra deck retrieval
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>>180897027
d/d/d can probably survive
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What are spirit monsters sitting at right now? Rogue? Petdeck?
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>>180897353
Worst than Ice Barriers.
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>>180897353
Petdeck/mediocre Rank 4 bait
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Give me 1 reason why this is still banned.
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>>180897353
Shitdeck

R8 my CAC
>Great Tengu of Rituals
>Link/Winged-Beast/WIND
>ATK2500/Link1(bottom)
>1 Ritual Monster
>During either Player's turn: You can Special Summon 1 Ritual Monster from your hand or GV to your zone this card points to, ignoring its summoning conditions. (This Special Summon is treated as a Ritual Summon.) If a Ritual Monster is removed from the field by a card effect: You can add 1 Ritual Spell Card from your Deck or GV to hand. You can olny use each effect of "Great Tengu of Rituals" once per turn.
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>>180898578
Rudra is soon

>>180898758
>>180888392
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>>180898578
Exodia.
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Hey, who here likes A Legendary Ocean? You like A Legendary Ocean don't you? Come on, go play Duel Links!
https://ygorganization.com/duel-links-card-trader-updates/
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>>180899167
move back kid
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>>180899167
i'd probably play duel links to build an a legendary ocean deck if i didn't have to grind for a week just to get 1 copy of alo
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>>180899167
Why I would use that if I can just activate the A Legendary Ocean skill?
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>>180898578
>add 3
>summon jowgen

no
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>>180899492
It's in the Card Trader which rotates every 8 instead of 12 hours now and you can get a lot of resources early on if you're just starting.
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>>180899578
That only gives you regular Umi.
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So occasionally we get support for olders cards, or we see an older card suddenly become relevant again. What could be done to make more older cards see play? The anime says every card has a use, but a lot of older cards get put aside in favor of newer cards.
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>>180900713
>Jowgen
>a threat
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>>180902183
That's a dumb question because it's not like there are rules when it comes to making a card.
You can just print:
>Dark Scorpion Wincon
>Quick-Play Spell
>You can activate this card from the deck or GY, and the turn it was Set. If you control at least one "Dark Scorpion" card: You win the Match. This card's activation or effect cannot be negated.
And whoa, suddenly Dark Scorpions are broken.
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>>180902506
>>180888392
>https://discord.gg/zyYHTb
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>>180902727
It's not CAC discussion. I'm explaining that the viability of a card is based exclusively on how strong Konami or whoever wants to make that card. If Konami really wanted (your favorite archtype or card) to be good, it would just be a matter of printing something good for it.

There's no such thing as a bad mechanic or gimmick, just bad cards with no good support.
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>>180902727
Yes, https://discord.gg/zyYHTb. It's what one of the posts you quoted said.
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I recently found myself growing interested in Yugioh again, would it be a good idea to get back into the game now or would it be better to wait until link summoning comes out?

Don't really recall how to play the game well but I do recall the last time I really played was when Shadolls were in their prime and what deck I played during that time, it was some mix between blue eyes and hieratics.
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>>180903862
Do you plan on playing a deck that gets fucked by Link format?
>No
Play now
>Yes
Pick a different deck and play now
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>>180904228
>Do you plan on playing a deck that gets fucked by Link format?
Not sure, still haven't decided on a deck I want to play yet. Currently I do like the idea of returning to a blue eyes and hieratic deck or trying something new like Zombies or maybe ABC. But I want to try to pick up something that won't get completely fucked come the release of Link summons.
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>>180902234
You're trolling, right?
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>>180904439
Blue-Eyes isn't hurt *too* badly by Links. Generally they only sit on their Synchro monster, Spirit Dragon. And even then, since BEWD is a Normal Monster you can summon Link Spider.
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Any Hype duel music I should put into ygopro?
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>>180905515
Do hieratics still pair up well with blue eyes after Links come out or would just blue eyes be better?
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Need someone to duel on YGOPro, same password as always.
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>>180907994
password isnt' vidya.
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>>180908263
B-but that's what I typed! I'm sure of it!!
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Hosting again if anyone wants to play.
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>>180906191
With all the new support Blue-Eyes got recently, Hieratics just slow the deck down now. They brick way too hard, even with 3 Convocation. Which is a shame really, Hieratics are one of my favourite archetypes I repped Dark Matter OTK all the way up to PePe format
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Senpai what happened back there?
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GIMME AN AQUA DECK
I WANT AN AQUA DECK
GWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
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>>180910492
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>>180910492
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI4g6753qtI
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>>180910492
https://wsdecks.com/deck/34910/
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>>180910526
>greatly interested in Cambrian era fossils and been playing Burgerstomachs since before Opabinia was revealed
>Toad got released and now everybody hates on me for playing them
>Paleozoic
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>>180910492
Fuck off back to your cesspool
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>>180910526
What's the third last trap in the side?
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>>180912856
Spiral Power
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>>180910526
>Phantom Knight R2
>none of the Phantom Knight traps
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>>180913069
It's a generic r2. PK mats only make it a quick eff, you can still use it otherwise.
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>>180913000
Thanks.
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>>180913284
I'm saying to run a PK trap to make it quick.
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>>180892307
BLS is more expensive.
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>>180888440
I was friends with a very good proffesional player. Like someone who constantly made it to or won their national.

She figured out the Wind up loop the first fucking day after tinkering with the new cards for a few minutes.

I was there when she discovered it. She gave a downright evil laugh and said "I need to exploit this before it gets banned". To this day I still have pity for those opponents.

In other words. The really good players figure this shit out day 1. And you are telling me Konami doesn't learn about till 8 months down the road?
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>>180915341
>she
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>>180915898
Yeah.

She was ridiculously masculine. Even the decks she picked out. She liked things that were very technical and I guess you could call 'math puzzles': synchro decks that revolved around changing levels or that one archtype where you needed to have an empty to get anything to work and it was all about discarding your hand in the most efficient way. That was her favorite archtype.

Basically what I'm trying to say is she had a very manly way of thinking so yugioh appealed to her because it was about probability and numbers.
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>>180916156
>Infernities
>math puzzles
>probabilities
Holy guacamole, you're a new friend!
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>>180916228
>>180916156

>tfw was a synchro infernity player
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Is True worth investing in right now?
It doesn't look like the deck gets hit by Link rules at all, and the entire main deck is borderline budget (other than Diagram lol).
From what I hear, they're still topping in the OCG even after the Master Peace/Diagram/Terraforming hit.
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post dead memes
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>>180917153
Are Infernities worth trying now, or do I wait until Link rules before picking them up?
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>>180918243
they are fucking dead. Tried every single imaginable builds and they all got hit by the banlist. Namely upstart at 1, ROTA at 1. And now the meta is even more antagonist to it, so my 280eu deck is sleeping atm
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>>180913069
He's actually no that bad of an R2 at spell speed one. I run one in my Graydles.
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>>180917909
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>>180917225
Wait to see how you feel about the deck when Diagram goes to one.
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How do I play with Link Summons? YGO Pro doesn't have it yet.
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How does Fabled work in Link format?
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Question about True King of All Calamities

If my opponent declares in my standby phase water, do all the monsters I summon turn into water? Or only those that are on the field already?
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>>180919713
You can make a Synchro or a Link and then pass.
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>>180919730
All that you summon become water too.
It's a turn ender.
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https://ygorganization.com/thetyrantarmymarchesagain/
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explain destroying cards from your hand/deck and how it differs from discarding
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>>180921040
another card for spamming from deck huh.
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>>180921546
Semantics
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CIBR-JP032 兵隊竜 Soldier Dragon
Level 2 EARTH Dragon-Type Effect Monster
ATK 700
DEF 800
(1) Once per turn, when your opponent activates a card or an effect: You can Special Summon 1 Level 2 or lower Dragon-Type monster from your Deck.
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>>180921782
Anything significant besides tuners?
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>>180921546
basically the same thing but it triggers different cards
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Is it me or are their less people here in the link era than there were in the pendulum era?
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>>180921874
it's not hard OPT so it can SS more copies of itself which in turn SS more stuff
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>>180921782
It appears to be a retrain or second version of Troop Dragon. Also many Dragunities are level 2, but then again they probably aren't worth it
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>>180921782
>tfw always liked Troop Dragon
>this card looks similar and is about as shit
Or is there some combo I'm missing?
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>>180921905
Yes, and I believe it will stay that way until
1. Links arrive in the TCG
2. Percy adds master Rule 4
3. Zoodiacs and True Draco fucking dies
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So
What are theese "nice little intricacies" in the Zoo mirrors people keeps talking about? Zoo players and yugitubers keeps throwing the phrase around but I have yet to see any explanations on what they mean.
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>>180922985
People trying to delude themselves into thinking that mirror matches of autopilot decks take skill.
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>If this card is in your hand: You can destroy 2 other monsters in your hand and/or face-up on your field, including an EARTH monster, and if you do, Special Summon this card, and if you do that, and both destroyed monsters were EARTH, you can also look at your opponent's Extra Deck and banish up to 3 monsters from it with different names.
>you can also look at your opponent's Extra Deck and banish up to 3 monsters from it with different names.
is this what it's come to? fuck dealing with things on field, lets fuck them up before they even get a chance to see the light of day
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>>180923691
The effect existed before in Dragunities but the game back then wasnt as fast as now.
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http://challonge.com/dngroyalmelee
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>>180925406
magibullet spell? New monster in the art?
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>>180923691
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>>180925406
Magibullet Endorphin
Hard OPT
Target 1 of your Magibullet monsters, its ATK/DEF becomes double its original ATK/DEF until the end of the turn, but it cannot attack directly this turn
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>>180925406
>that effects
Holy shit they're fucking garbage.
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>>180923691
Anon..
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>>180925685
...Really? That's what we're doing? I was hoping their S/Ts would be actually useful stuff like removal and simple RotAs, with additional benefits from the monsters for using them. But I guess not. More fucking gimmicks.

Did Trickstars' success not teach Konami that people want simple searching and consistency, not this kind of gimmicky bullcrap?
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>>180925774
Did the fact that they actually brought back the column shit not indicate to you that these were going to be gimmicky?
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>>180925406
Cute. But not good enough.

>>180925774
Trickstars can eat 50 producer cocks.
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>>180925774
I'm happy that it's a gimmick deck. Makes the deck fun.
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>>180925984
>Trickstars can eat 50 producer cocks
?
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>>180926131
Fuck you. Gimmick decks don't work in this game. Gimmicks are inherently too inconsistent, too slow, too clunky to be of any worth.
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>>180926237
Anything works if you try hard enough.
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>>180926131
oh shit he mad
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>>180926167
Le ebin all Idols have sex with their producers meme
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>>180926131
It would be more fun if it was actually good.
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>>180926237
Zoo is a pretty dece gimmick deck though. XYZ summoning with one material's a pretty effective gimmick.
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>>180926308
But it's 100% fact.
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>>180926409
But were are the proofs
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>>180926297
Not really. I used the deck for a while. Found it really boring to play and play against.
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>>180925685
Attack booster, huh. Whoever compared these to Books seems to have the right idea. Hopefully they get a F8 tier removal option
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>>180926616
Good is usually boring.

>>180926385
You do raise a good point. Any gimmick can be good if Konami feels like making it so.
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>>180925685
>quick-play Heroic Chance
Guess it might be something to scratch my Heroic itch at least
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>>180925406
Cool. An Honest/Crane. People forget the monsters turn these into hand traps.
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>>180924453
I don't think it destroyed the monsters just discarded. If it destroyed it would have been as busted.
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>>180927868
It was send, but you could only send cards on your field to the grave to use it, and it was a pain to get out in the first place. The one advantage it has over Litho is that they can all be the same cards.
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>BLS is at 3
>CED is at 3
>OCG meta is still as stagnant as ever with the True Dracos and Dinosaurs

Could anybody else imagine such a future back in 2004?

Even looking at the tops this week at the org, even Burning Abyss and Blue-eyes can top more than Chaos.
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Name a deck released post-link summoning that you might actually use.
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>>180925406
It was pretty obvious before, but this card coming right after Zamiel confirms Weathery is the Link deck of the pack.
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>>180931096
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>>180931096
Gouki because I like earth warriors too much
Altergeist because I like their designs and am a stunshitter
Maybe vullets depending on how much they get censored, same with magibullets
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>>180929873
>and dinosaurs
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have the other zarcbunny too
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What's the most broken fun card you can think of?

Altering History
Normal Spell card

Choose one card in your hand, alter one word in the text. This effect lasts for the rest of the duel. You can only use a card with this name once per match.
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>>180931096
Gouki and Magibullet are the decks I have my eyes on right now.
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>>180892234
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>>180925765
>those eyes
why do Reaper and 5head look like ass in comparison to Ghost Ogre?
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>>180931096
>>180931314
I'm a synchroshitter so it's either crawlers (think worm bait/scapegoat/multiplication of ants...), stargrails (there is some potential but holy inconsistency batman) and maybe trickstars if there was some good tuna to cram in there

scapegoat looks really fucking fun in crawlers though
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>>180931096
I'm going to make Crawlers work, just you wait.
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>>180931096
Does Grinder Golem.dek count if my end-field is nothing but Link Monsters? If not, probably Cyberse.dek, maybe Magibullets.
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>>180932983
Would road warrior w/equipped Torque Tune Gear be a fun boss? it seems like you could quickdraw in the deck easy enough (quick/crawler/token)
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>>180931096
Stargrails
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>>180931897
Dimensional Duel
Field Spell

Neither player has to tribute monsters to summon level 5 or higher monsters.

Neither player receives battle damage.

If a monster leaves the field, that monster's controller takes damage equal to the attack points the monster had while on the field.
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>>180933269
the only good builds i've seen end with muh big link field and baguska

is this all there is to offer/
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>>180933130
probably

what link do you make with two dark tokens?
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>>180933634
2 Link Spiders into Akashic Magician to bounce Grinder back to hand. Then usually just Proxy Dragon, Firewall Dragon and sometimes Trigate Wizard if I open well.
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>>180931096
Trickstars because they're nice autopilot shit
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>>180925406
>>180925685
So is this shit or is /dng/ overreacting? My friend keeps talking about how great the Magibullet cards are (including this one) but while I know all good players have left /dng/ it feels like the majority opinion is the right one.
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>>180936510
>My friend keeps talking about how great the Magibullet cards are (including this one)
There are only 3 Magibullet cards including this spell revealed and they are gimmicky shit.
Your friend's a retard who probably still has a Dark Magician deck around.
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>>180936510
It's essentially an Honest clone. You should be able to figure it out on your own.
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>>180936510
It's a searchable Honest. It's good, but not enough to carry the deck so it depends on what the other cards do.
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Why are the new Six Sam cards so shit? I desperately want them to be good so badly but almost all of them are unplayable garbage.
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>>180938083
I guess they don't want another Kageki/Gateway
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>>180938083
Legal Gateway means all support will be memeshit
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>>180931096
I'm not the original poster, but i'm bored so have a Strawpoll about post Link decks.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13298880
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>>180931096
SPYRALs actually became good with Links. So that.
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Damn, Spellbooks are getting a lot of burn in Japan. Hopefully this finally sparks some reprints.
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>>180938874
Did I miss some tops somewhere?
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>>180925774
I imagine Magibullets will still get cards like that.
But Endorphin still shouldn't be that bad. You can use them from the hand on the same turn you grab them. So they're like a Honest clone in spell card form.
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Is BA still decent? Not including links.
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>>180939113
No because they can't really function in Links since they rely on multiple ED monsters/PK toolbox to work and their xenophobic to any Links unless you get out >rhino
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>>180922601
>and is about as shit
It's one card that can easily amount to 4 cards on its own.
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>>180939026
No, because while the Tcg haven't gotten Links yet the Ocg haven't gotten the SPYRAL cards yet. What this anon is reffereing to is probably online play and I'm guessing it has lots to do with machine Duplication spam giving you Link materials instead of just ending up in lackluster rank 1 XYZ cards.
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>Archfiend at 1
>Launcher at 1
>Barrier at 1
>Still can end up with a field of 3 firewalls (5 bounces), Proxy dragon (for raigeki), archfiend, necro, 2 breaks and 1 barrier

Man this deck is pretty much unkillable isnt it
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>>180936686
>gimmicky shit
They aren't that gimmicky.
See a face down. Summon a Magibullet in the same collumn as it.
See a monster. Summona Magibullet in the same collumn as it.

If your opponent then uses said cards, they'll be punished for it.
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>>180939292
That's the
>or is there some combo I'm missing
part. Guess there is.
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>>180938662
>Metaphys
>Link deck
Choose one.
Also it's hilarious how the non-link deck is winning the link deck poll and the deck that hasn't gotten any links revealed and might possibly not get any either is the close second.
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>>180939342
You can also use Recapture to steal your opponent's monsters to use as Link material.
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>>180939665
The combo is just hoping your Soldier Dragon can keep summoning more, then hoping you even get a chance to benefit off them
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>>180916228
What are you even trying to say with this image, idiot?
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>>180939643
>unkillable
That's not Zoo.
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>>180938662
>Magibullet wining
Suprising.
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>>180939784
>Metaphys
>Link deck
Where the fuck does the poll imply this?
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Jesus christ, Trickstars are bullshit.
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>>180940686
post Link, post = after
you blind fuck
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>>180940872
>losing to burn
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>>180939113
I feel like BA got powercreeped to hell. Like they just can't keep up with decks nowdays
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>>180941005
Took a couples years for that to hapoen, so I say good riddence.
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>>180940879

Gee could it be that Post-Link means AFTER Link format started? Could it be you're retarded?
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>>180940872
>Playing Metaphys
>Get matched up with trickstars
>pulls the hand banish bs
>all the effects proc
>ragequit
jokes on him barely any of them do much from the banished zone anyway
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Meanwhile at wordplay with the handtraps.
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>>180940686
Oh
I didn't read
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>>180942603
What do the runes say?
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>>180944952
cherry getting all lewd like when she called up reaper and tricked her into sex
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>>180944952
>need a nickname for Encode Talker
>Enco
>"Enco" = "援交" AKA compensated dating/schoolgirl prostitution
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So, what do you think the WIND Shadow Six Samurai is going to do? It's probably the last new card they will get.
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>>180947286
Nothing good. I'm still disturbed by the fact that they gave them a contact fusion instead of a link.
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>>180947983
>hurr every archtype needs thier own links
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>>180947983
I was actually expecting a fusion but it takes 3 different attribute monsters to make and its effect is a 1-for-1 that's not even quick. I could just run Mizuho-Shinai combos for greater payoff and consistency.
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>>180948164
They do though, especially a spammy one like Six Samurai. And by being a contact fusion, Rihan basically is a Link monster, just without the Link arrows.
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>>180938662
I'll go for Gouki
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>>180948164
If you're a deck that's as ED reliant as sams are you do. It would have been a good alternative for Shi En if it only took two and was quick.
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does anyone have a good decklist for the pendulum magicians? want to learn it before link format kills them
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>>180949283
>>180950587
Just wait for more link monsters or use one of the current ones like Decode Talker and Proxy Dragon. Find an engine that works out for it
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>>180950505
waiting on the ep where he teaches those kids
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>want to play crawlers on chinkpro
>download translated version with latest update
>all the crawlers (aside from the links) aren't translated in the slightest
>translator says he's never going to translate again
>mfw
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>>180951458
Wait he said he's not translating anymore? Where?
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>>180950874
We all know that anon. Just lamenting the fact that we missed a chance for an archetype specific link that would give the deck an edge.
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>>180951573
All you need is Gateway in TCG but that's never happening so basically get fucked.
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>>180951720
Pretty much.
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>>180951509
The Update that came out on June 20th is the last update that will be translated by me. Today I resing of translating future updates.
Originally the translations were supposed to be just for myself and then also used by community in supposedly short time-frame until Link Monsters would arrive to YGOPro Percy. However, two months have passed since that moment, yet Link Monsters still aren't officially supported by YGOPro Percy. I have uploaded 10 translated versions of Mercury233's client so far and I didn't think that it wouldn't be replaced after all this time. Unfortunately, I lack the motivation to continue and the whole process is time-consuming, which is something I often just cannot afford.
Thank you for using the translated client and for all your support. I hope that you all enjoyed it and I'm sorry to say that I cannot continue providing translations any further.

If you want to continue using this client, you can install untranslated updates for new cards from this page: http://mercury233.me/ygosrv233/download.html (Use the button that leads to baidu.com and doesn't say "ygomobile" in it), then drag neccessary files from downloaded update archive to folder with your client. You need to drag only following:
a) folders: "expansions", "script"
b) files: "lflist.conf", "ygopro_test.exe"

If you want to continue the translation project to share it, feel free to use any translation that I've uploaded. If you'll need help to do so, feel free to contact me via reddit (/u/Mtax) or Discord (Mtax#9787). However, DO NOT use it for sell or other material benefit, including paying URL shorteners.
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>mfw link rules are coming in 2 weeks
I am a little bit scared of the outcome.
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>>180953132
Wait, we're switching over to Link rules before we get the cards?
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>>180953243

Structure deck is out in 3 weeks I think they meant
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>>180953132
Closer to 4 weeks.
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>>180951946
thanks percy
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>>180953318
Yeah, that isn't 2 weeks. Light's Revenge and US Nats are in 2 weeks. Worlds being under Link rules would be incredibly boring. Not enough cards would be out
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>>180950505
>tfw like Goukis but know they're going to get the shaft because nobody will like this guy
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>>180954313
>nobody will like this guy
NOW LISTEN HERE BROTHER
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>>180951458
it's not like they're complicated
its the 3 flips (foolish mst mon, all float into two if destroyed by card effect while face up), the 3 links - 2 of which basically share the same effect, the ss field that shits on what runs them over, the stargrail thing you dont even play, and the trap that flips them
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FUCK PERCY
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>>180887758
What's the new Instant Fusion target in HEROes now?
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>>180954947
Rare Fish if you still want to do Bahamut -> Toad. Otherwise it's probably not even worth running Instant Fusion now.
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>>180955045
Thanks.
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>>180955045
thank god HERO's are super shit tier now
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>>180954568
The new Link 4 (effect not revealed yet) is a Shueisha promo, so we could end up not getting it for a year like what's happening with Deadlyguy and Red Rising Dragon.
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>>180953358
>>180954761
The best part is that the only reason Links is taking so long on Percy is because they're literally trying to program an imaginary format with Link Monsters and the EMZ but no summoning restriction on the ED
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>>180955314
Are we actually getting RRD?
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>>180955529
It still has no TCG ETA.
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>>180955463
That's not true at all, they're taking so long because those fuckers don't know how to code and the nips won't share their program with stupid gajins.
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>>180955314
every link monster that exists at this point is hot garbage so i doubt it'll be any good
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>>180956610
They have to start getting good at some point, unless Konami wants people to just run older decks.
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>>180955463
I'm no expert but wouldn't that be piss easy once you've already coded the link format part?
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>>180956143
You need to stop sucking on eggrolls.
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>>180956143
You're confusing your chinks and nips anon
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>>180955128
You're still ass raped about HERO's almost 4 or 7 months later?
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>But the biggest work on Percys side begins now(because that isn't in Fluorhydrides version integrated):
>1. The Card Database. Most of the Cards was added during the last days, but all the link Monsters where missing. These cards must be scripted too(or stolen by these people who has made them now. But Percys Team are doing great jobs and wouldn't steal anything and will create themself). And Older, specific Cards must be "rescripted". E.g. Ultimaya Tzolkin and so on.
>2. The Ai must be fixed. Most of the core was destroyed by Master Rule 4. And until now, Snarky wasn't able to fix anything about it, because he hasn't workable/testable code. Now he should and now he should be able to begin with fixing procedures.
>3. When Percys Team will do all correct, and I think they want to do, they prepare all the other Variants of YgoPro for Master Rule 4 too. This means a giant update for Android and/or Apple-Shit.
>4. The Server and all the allowance must be edited. If they don't fix that, you can only play due to lan, like on Fluorhydrides version at now(because this isn't able to play online. It can only play offline during lan)

tl;dr the actual reason percy does not have links is that they wont release them until they've written a new AI for them
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>>180957268
HEROs attract lots of autism, both from people that like them and ones that hate them.
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>>180957502
it's going to take a while then
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>>180957502
Can't the like, ignore the AI and add it later?
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>>180957268
No, i'm just glad that i will never see Norden's fucking moron face anymore in the game
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>>180957914
No anon, that would force casual shitters to play against real humans instead of starter deck Kaiba.
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>>180958728
I say do it, if you're too scared to play real humans,you don't deserve to play the game at all.
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>>180957502
So why haven't they done that already? I mean, they've had the time. No new rules have come out since the original reveal of Links, have they?
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>>180958914
not other than extra link

judging as there are other functional versions of -pro with links they're simply taking their sweet time
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>>180959265
Speaking of, is ygopro 2 just flashy meme shit?
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>>180959623
it has links
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>>180958680
>No
Yes.
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>>180960352
maybe?
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>>180960494
i don't know, can you repeat the quesiton?
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>>180960254
boof
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>>180960254
I'd say that whoever who made mariomon fuck off some months ago
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>gofu to SS 2 tokens to 2 Link Spider to Decode Talker
Is this the reason Gofu is Limited?
How do you do Honeybot easily then? I don't want to splash a lot of Cyber Main Monsters in my deck but I need Honeybot
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>>180960893
Brilliant Fusion, maybe? Why do you need Honeybot?
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>Welcome to Week #0 of the OCG 2017.07 format.

>The OCG 2017.07 Limit Regulation will officially take effect on 1 July 2017, but here is a preliminary report based on tournaments that were held under the new Limit Regulation.

>This report will cover 35 top-performing decks from 6 tournaments that were held in Japan and China during 23 – 25 June 2017.


10 True Draco:
5 Invoked Spellbook True Draco
2 Windwitch Spellbook Invoked True Draco
1 Demise True Draco
1 Invoked True Draco
1 Metalfoes Zefra True Draco
8 Dinosaur Yang Zing
5 Dinosaur:
4 True King Yang Zing Dinosaur
1 True King Grandsoil Dinosaur
4 Invoked:
2 Kaiju Invoked
1 Kaiju Spellbook Invoked
1 Windwitch Artifact Spellbook Invoked
3 ABC
2 Stargrail:
1 Brilliant Venus Kaiju Stargrail
1 Brilliant Venus Stargrail
1 Magician
1 Windwitch Spellbook Luna
1 Zefra
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>>180961821
>ABC is back just by getting one more copy of their field
>Dracos still living
I feel a Terraforming ban around the corner
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>>180961821
Good news, zoodiac is nowhere to be seen, bad news, Master Peace is still the champ
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When is percy releasing links?
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>>180961821
>5 Invoked Spellbook True Draco
>2 Windwitch Spellbook Invoked True Draco
>1 Demise True Draco
>1 Invoked True Draco
>1 Metalfoes Zefra True Draco
>8 Dinosaur Yang Zing
>5 Dinosaur:
>4 True King Yang Zing Dinosaur
>1 True King Grandsoil Dinosaur
>4 Invoked:
>2 Kaiju Invoked
>1 Kaiju Spellbook Invoked
>1 Windwitch Artifact Spellbook Invoked
>3 ABC
>2 Stargrail:
>1 Brilliant Venus Kaiju Stargrail
>1 Brilliant Venus Stargrail
>1 Magician
>1 Windwitch Spellbook Luna
>1 Zefra

Is this what /pol/ would call race mixing?
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>>180961821
Why are TK Dinosaur and YZ Dinosaur separated when they both use Dinosaurs as base engine? It should at least have UCT dividing both builds like pic related with True Draco.

It gives the impression that True Draco is bigger represented but that's not true.
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>>180962778
they were back to back
you'd need to jam in UCT head in the YZ part too
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>>180963183
Exactly, it should've been mixed.

Little autism but it got me.
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>>180962778
>>180963183
also TD and TK being seperate between MRP & VFD
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Ok, how fucked up did links make the meta?

I assume YGO didn't die.
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>>180964417
>>180961821
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>>180964417
it changed shit, Zoos could still top, decks that don't rely on the extra deck were getting a better boost, at least in the case of True Dracos, a lot of petdecks were murdered unless you run engines to redo the same things you used to do, and then there's the decks or petdecks that don't even care about link summoning and can still OTK with the greatest of ease, some examples in my experience with chinkpro are Lunalight (kaleido chick is busted), Atlanteans and Fluffals.

Super quantum players i know you're crying in a corner waiting for a SQ link 3 that can summon your precious great magnus
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>>180961821
Now the real question is how many and what link monsters are getting used.
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>>180965340
I think it's pretty much just Decode and Proxy
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>>180965340
i'd assume just decode talker. there's no other good generic ones
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What do you think is more likely to happen first: banning of good cards to make people buy the new shit, or them creating actually good new archetypes that can beat the older ones?
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>>180892234
I like them
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What is your favorite "Ability" /dng/?
>Toon
>Spirit
>Union
>Gemini
>Flip
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>>180969312
>Ability
>just side gimmicks
come on now
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>>180969312
The one that's meta
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>>180967753
Both at the same time.
Think of it as DP porn on a virgin twinks ass slowly tearing.
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what deck would she play?
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>>180970224
She'd play any meta expensive deck but she literally sells her body for cards
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>>180961821
>tfw ABC and Magicians are the last pure decks left.

Hybrids need to die, that mishmash crap should have been left back in stone age since it just defeats the purpose of archetypes if you're just going to pool everything to make it work.

>>180969312
Union >>> Flip >> Gemini >>>>>> Spirit >>>>>$1200>>>>> Arc-V post episode 92 >>>>>>> Toon

Unions have gotten the least support recently but they've proved themselves while everything else got all that support but are still worthless as ever.
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>>180970381
>Gemini above spirit
I'm sorry but at least the one and only spirit archetype is more functional than anything related to Geminis
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>>180970224
Why girls prefer to play Magic? YGO is too fast for their brains?
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>>180970381
Admittedly unions "success" is entirely just ABCs, and they aren't good because they're unions.
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>>180970831
idk, never seen any girls play magic at my locals and like 4 girls play yugioh there.
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>>180970224
Regardless of what it is she would cheat against kids
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>>180970954
The only important part the Unions play in ABC is just letting them abuse that field spell to turbo into ABC "+3 for free" Dragon Buster

Meanwhile Gemini only has Red-eyes and Chemicritters(lol), Spirits only got that massive money sink known as Shinobirds, Flip only had Shaddolls which are dead as Construct and Toons are only good for being laughed at(ironically)
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>throughout the game's two decade history, we've gotten all kinds of new monster types, subtypes, and gimmicks
>we still only have three types of Spells and Traps
When do we get a new Spell or Trap type? No, Pendulums don't count.
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>>180970965
I never met irl with a girl who plays YGO, even the weeb ones prefer other card games.
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Just bought some Zefras and Metalfoes in hype for Link Format
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>>180971491
I don't thik there can be new types of spell/traps.
Like, would you imagine shit like Counter spell traps that are just super poly-likes that can't be negated?
Alternatively, there's the spell or trap monsters
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>>180971491
>only have three types of Spells and Traps
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>>180971475
Even that isn't really because of unions, but yeah. Also, Shinobirds are a money sink?
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>>180971491
My question is, why the fuck do counter traps get to be special and be the only SS3 things in the game?
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>>180971853
Extra Deck equips could be fun and a lot better than Links shit.
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>>180971886
Some guy bought out Pre-Prep and Urgent Ritual Arts the night Baron came out because everybody "thought" the deck was going to be the next best thing and it all came to over 1000 burgers.

Look how well the deck does now.
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>>180972296
What made him think the deck was going to be good?
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>>180972296
Haven't the prices settled down since then?
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>>180972296
The Ancient Leaf incident was better.
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>>180972139
>Extra deck equips
This sounds so fucking dumb, i can't belive you just had this idea.
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>>180973914
>>180972139

H E R M O S
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>>180973914
Less shit than links
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>>180972296

The deck is so shit Konami let it into duel links.
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>>180973984
>mfw
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>>180973984
armory arm
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>>180972105
Because Trap cards need some kind of advantage over Quick-Play Spells, and making monster Quick Effects SS3 would be utter cancer.
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>>180972105
Do you really want spells with the same clause Super Polymerization has?
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Can I get away with running 1 scapegoat in a deck or no?
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>>180975679
Why? What deck?
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>people still think more than 40 cards is bad
Fucking hell, when will they ever learn?
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dont
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>>180975801
>Why
I like scapegoat
>What deck
Blue eyes
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>>180976113
what would scapegoat add to a blue eyes deck?
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>>180976403
Nothing really but I kind of like the idea of having a bit of extra protection if needed.
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>>180975862
When reality gets flipped upside down.
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>>180975862
44 cards should be as big as your deck should get, anything above is asking for bricks or you're playing lawnmowing. 42 cards is best for me because i can fit in some extra staples that could be easily sided out for the sidedeck stuff
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>>180976567
Then play Threatening Roar or something.
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>>180965568
proxy dragon is and will pretty much always have to be a good generic card as its summoning condition is literally the most lax you can get short of "1 Monster"
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>>180977705
depending on how you play the statistics there's probably some sweet spot

it's fucking weird that 37+3 field spells is MUCH, MUCH less consistent than 37+3 Field Spells + 3 Terraforming
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>>180978727
It's not really good though
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I know he's ass, but what are some targets for his second effect?
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>>180979649
toad
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>>180979649
Exterio, Last Warrior
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>>180979649
the last warrior from another planet
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>>180979649
>huge beater that's supposed to be immune to everything
>effects only trigger when destroyed
did konami forget kaijus existed or something?
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>>180980337
Kaijus are an unplanned mistake from KoA and why Super Quantums were dead on arrival
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>>180980337
Kaiju ban/errata when?
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>>180980760
hopefully never, with monster piss on the loose
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>>180980760
The only kaiju that should be hit or banned is gameciel, interrupted kaiju slumber should be banned too just by virtue of making kaijus searchable ontop of being a darkhole that gives you a 3300 beater. Everything else isn't a problem imo
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>>180980837
What about after he's gone?

>>180980924
IKS isn't that bad desu, though I can see where you're coming from.
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Leave kaijus alone
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>>180981343
konami will still keep making degenerate boss monsters so kaijus should never get banned
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>>180981583
>>180981798
That's objectively bad design and you know it.
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>>180981956
Let's say kaijus aren't made, how do you run over the likes of Great Magnus, Master Peace, Apoqliphort Towers and Ultimate Falcon?
Hard mode, by using only two cards
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>>180982071
You don't. You lose like you're supposed to.
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They should ban all the current Kaijus and make new ones that function as their own deck instead of just a removal engine.
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>>180982071
>master peace immune to monsters/traps
easy

>>180982258
>auto losing as soon as an easy to summon boss monster comes out
yeah that'd be healthy, ban all kaijus
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>>180982453
That is healthy, yes. No deck should be allowed easy outs to everything.
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>>180982585
Then no deck should be allowed to easily turbo out a boss monster that's unkillable
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>>180982652
Wrong.
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>>180982724
are you a super quant player
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>>180982071
By not letting them exist in the first place. Hand traps and negation work well.
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>>180982071
The game shouldn't be in such an unhealthy state as to let cards like that exist.
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>>180982991
No. That deck plays like and is hot ass.
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>>180983103
>handtraps
ok so kaijus are degenerate and should've never been made but shit like Ash blossom is perfectly balanced?
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Why is checking your opponent's hand an effect so rare in YGO?
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>>180983328
Nice goalpost.
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>>180983392
Because its not that necessary, at least if its just checking the hand, and at the same time, it leads to degeneracy like Delinquent Duo or whatever those old ass handrape cards are called
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>>180983103
This. Also, it's not like there aren't easy alternatives that CAN kill that shit like Excalibur, Lightning, Crab King (for towers), Crystal Wing, Beelze, any 2500 atk dark spellcaster in Pendulum Magicians courtesy of the Purple Poison 1200 point atk boost. Any deck within the last 7 years has an out or a way of preventing "unkillable" bosses from being unkillable, or even simply a way of keeping them from showing up.
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>>180982071
Stuff like Master Peace that can be summoned without even losing card advantage are one thing. But Great Magnus takes around a 7 card investment assuming they're using monsters on the field to get the 6+ material effect. So it's not reasonable to expect to be able to deal with that with only 2 cards. The belief that 2 cards (making a rank 4) should be able to out anything in the game is why power creep has gotten so bad so quickly.
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>activate Copycat when yami is on the field
>it doesn't get a buff
>yami is destroyed
>doesn't get a de-buff
defend this
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Since Yugioh was basically THE fad of the early 2000s, I'm curious: when does one have to be born to be an "early 2000s kid"?
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>>180983719
You already did this shit.
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>>180982071
The Lightning

Great Magnus is solved by Santa Claws/Volcanic Queen/Link Rule fuckery.
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>>180983708
This is true. Shit like Magnus should be like Zarc. You should be in an overall winning position if it hits the field since it's the endgame for your archetype. It should demand respect as a wincon; not a laugh and just "gameciel gg".
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Kaijus are good

If you dont like it, then
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>>180984452
>USER WAS KAIJU'D FOR THIS POST
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BRING BACK PRIORITY IGNITION
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>>180984120
>Summons the most fearsome monster in all 4 dimensions, Leo carded millions of people trying to prevent it from coming back
>mfw
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>>180984736
terrible, fuck off
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The way kaijus should've been made is that you have to reveal them first to tribute shit, this leaves a window of negation available so you can save your shit from getting the turtle cock.

Then again, y'all are forgetting we're talking about konami, and konami doesn't know how to make cards which is why we have degenerate shit and shitty cards
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>>180984883
He'd probably pull a spell out of his ass that lets him set a Supreme King monster from his Extra Deck in his Pendulum Zone, and then use the anime pendulum effect to bring it back onto the field.
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>>180975862
>>180977705
So it's ok to try more than 45+ at this point?
>>180978930
That's curious.
Now that you mention it, when I make a deck with 40 cards, I have the issue of starting a lot with her and the ritual spell with Pre-Preparation, which it is unhealthy for my deck, because right now I rely on the Djinns and other monsters... Guess I could try putting other monsters and cards, maybe traps (because I don't really use a lot of traps)
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>>180985560
>you have to reveal them first
>this leaves a window of negation available
No it doesn't. You can't negate alternative blue-eyes when is revealed.
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>>180985748
>to try more than 45+
Nope, this is just asking for bricking, 42 should be the best number assuming those 2 extra cards are just staples
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>>180985812
>reading
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>>180985812
Let me reword that, you activate the effect on hand that reveals them, then you tribute a monster.
Just some shit that allows you to strike out a kaiju before they kill you. Also, isn't the revealed card off Alt-right dragon the vanilla and not alt?
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>>180985838
My deck already has staples and some cards to draw. What I lack is more stun like traps and the fact that starting in a lot of duels with Northwemko is not good because I use the Djinns to make her a lot more hard to kill outside of battle (even though I use Honest and I recover him with Ritual Sanctuary). And is kind of hard to change cards I need to have for other cards that I also need to have in my deck, so I used to ask myself if I should try break the limit of 40 cards.
I guess I can try it, and also take note of the possibility of bricking if I do a +45 deck
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>be /dng/ regular 2 years ago
>regular tripfags posting
>return after a hiatus
>no tripfags in sight

What happened to them?
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>>180986505
There was a purge or something in those lines, maybe everyone got shadow dueled
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>>180986505
A legendary meme god shadow realm'd them
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>>180986505
>no tripfags in sight
>this is somehow a bad thing
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>>180986748
>this is somehow a bad thing
How the hell did you project anon implying that?
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>>180986748
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>180986505
Game is dead. Even bullying zoo babbies gets boring when its the only thing that's played
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>>180986748
Retard.
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>>180986420
If you go 45+ just run desires
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>>180987157
I remember you. So I'm assuming most tripfags just decided to be anons from now on huh?
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>>180987569
Fair enough.
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>>180979649
Flame Ghost, Pyrotile, Metal Dragon, Zoodiac Drancia
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>>180987594
I just used the shadow duel as an excuse to not use my tripcode because it felt unnecessary, i still come here, i still post and i am still thirsty for Leo Dancer's thick lion thighs
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>>180987928
fucking "valk" rule faggot
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>>180987594
I don't even remember mine anymore despite using it fairly recently, but I hardly play anymore as it is
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>>180987928
Say, since you use that deck (LunaLights are one of my favourites from Arc-V and Lio Dancer if my favourite of there, and yes I am considering of having a deck of them), can I ask how the Link rules affected them?
I mean, as far as I know they are pretty much a deck that relies on one boss monster, or I am wrong?
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How did ygo manage to die in a 5 year spam?
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"dead game"
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>>180988481
>relies on one boss monster
To OTK, yes, but if you ever dare to summon Leo Dancer turn 1, i will beg you to delete the deck, summoning Leo Dancer in turn 1 is the worst play a lunalight deck can make, you're supposed to use Leo Dancer to win games, not to have her sit there like a fucking idiot and get kaiju'd or utopia the lightning shocks her or Drancia equipped with 3 vipers runs over her.
At the very least, with bullhorn being unbanned, lunalight still has some consistency because i tested it with the OCG list before bull got banned and the fact you can make a board of Missus Radiant or a Decode talker, Dragostapelia and Panther Dancer.

Still, i wouldn't recommend building or playing Lunalight at all, Bullhorn might get banned and when that happens, the deck will become the shitty ass petdeck it used to be before Kaleido chick got made, and by the time we get the chick and the fox, its going to be too fucking late.
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>>180987594
Some left most anon. can't really shitpost as the game is stale and on life support and can't discuss decks because zoo shits on everything.

zoo genocide can't come soon enough
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>>180982071
Towers was already dealt with easily in the TCG even before it got banned, Kaijus were a ways away from being in he game at that point even. Still one of the most retarded bans KoA did, though, it didn't ever make sense to me given how easy it was to deal with.

As some others have said though, the game should never have gotten to these points of having multiple monsters that just negate tons of shit or outright do not care about what the opponent plays. The only way to go from here is forward unless Konami overhauls the entire game, which I don't see them doing.

>>180982724
I'm not agreeing with the Kaiju guy, but you're wrong retard. No deck shouldn't be allowed to turbo out a boss monster that is too strong and no deck should be able to have outs to any monster in the game.
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>>180989218
Forgot to say, Predaplant Dragostapelia is also an OCG exclusive so even if we get chick and fox, this stupid thing is also a playmaker of the deck.
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>>180989391
>most anon
I blame the lezbo robo fag for allowing this bs
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>>180989458
You are correct.
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>>180989458
>The only way to go from here is forward unless Konami overhauls the entire game, which I don't see them doing.
Or they could just ban the current garbage that either outs any unbreakable board and what makes said unbreakable boards and never EVER make something that ressembles it unless it means you have to draw very specific cards to pull a combo to summon whatever god-mode boss card
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>>180989391
There are 800 lurkers on r/yugioh at any time but these threads struggle now with the fact that tripfags don't post as often. Honestly we need tripfags to return.
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>>180989932
no, quit deluding
quality over quantity
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>>180990112
what quality?
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>>180989903
>that either outs any unbreakable board and what makes said unbreakable boards
There's way too much shit. How far are we going back? To Firefist/Geargia post-RULERS? Do you know how much garbage has released since then that makes these really strong cards? Not to mention the amount of extra deck shit that's really strong, they're ban a ton of stuff only for the Japanese to break the game just as badly. I don't see it happening, even though it would be great.
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>>180989218
>summon a big boss monster in turn 1 with things like Kaiju
I mean, one have to be totally new at this game to do that kind of stuff. Also.
>and the fact you can make a board of Missus Radiant or a Decode talker, Dragostapelia and Panther Dancer.
Don't you mind giving me the cards and combos you do for the Link Summon?
>Still, i wouldn't recommend building or playing Lunalight at all, Bullhorn might get banned
That's fair, but I still want to try it
>the deck will become the shitty ass petdeck it used to be before Kaleido chick got made, and by the time we get the chick and the fox, its going to be too fucking late.
I have my doubts about that, maybe you are right but I will only know it when we finally get Chick and Fox
>Predaplant Dragostapelia is also an OCG
That thing eventually has to come too.
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>>180989932
we need a better format. nothing to discuss tcg side as zoo has been figured out months ago and nobody cares about my shitty 60 card anti-meta meme deck so all that's left is getting hyped for trash archetypes from circuit breaker
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>>180990183
its better than any with tripfags
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>>180990330
I said what quality is on this general because i see the same shit over and over again, people crying about zoo killing everything, powercreep, kaijus, yadda yadda yadda, what quality is there when all people do is just cry about, meanwhile tripfags would just shitpost, shit's equally bad by the end of the day, you like it or not.

I bet you got probably banned off the tripfag discord and you spend your time being a baby here
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>>projection
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>>180990330
These threads have been shit anon, what are you smoking
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I'm actually starting to miss mariomon
Help
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>>180991405
Neck yourself, Mariomon.
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>>180990216
I said ban shit, not to regress the entire gamestate because link rules pretty much killed any deck from 2015 that relied on the extra deck, and the ones that didn't got killed by the banlist anyways (monarch, nekroz), the rest would be just killing the r4nk monsters that are some broken, shit like Utopia the Lightning or Baguska or the entire zoodiac archetype need to get banned, the step on the right direction to kill r4nk was to ban norden. And as for the decks that don't rely on extra deck, just kill true dracos, dinosaurs and maybe kozmo since these three were the face of the OCG after zoos got the dick. And then ban all kaijus and if anything that ressembles a kaiju is made, it better have some commitment to it or have a big drawback like Lava Golem or Santa Claws.

After that, its just konami making cards that are good but aren't broken and making legacy support make the decks playable at all
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>>180991405
seek your local clinic today
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>>180991405
Who?
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Ayy, this game sucks, how could any new player get into this when you assholes keep rushing everybody because they don't know how to swarm and make unbreakable boards on the first turn? It's no wonder everybody else ran to Duel Links, you have over 3000 cards and only a couple hundred are worth using. I demand an apology from you fucks who said the Link ruling would fix this.
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>>180989013
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>>180991676
Play on YGOPro if you're new
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>>180991676
>I demand an apology from you fucks who said the Link ruling would fix this
who the fuck said links were fixing shit
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>>180991557
>ban everything I dont like
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>>180991676
just play against the ygopro ai
it even has trash decks for you to jock on
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>>180992005
Well, people want the game fixed, so you ban the shit that everyone hated. You think people like to have their boards being ran over by kaijus and the lightning?
Besides, its just daydreaming, that shit is not going to happen obviously
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>>180991945
The people who unironically claimed Links were going to slow the game down, although it took about 20 seconds after the first Link cards being revealed for most people to figure out how stupid that was.
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>>180992297
You mean the same shitters that tought link rules would kill zoodiacs and make dark magician tier 1?
Because if that's the case, those faggots were /dlg/ shitters, at least in the case of that faggot Shekhinaga
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>>180991676
>how could any new player get into this when you assholes keep rushing everybody because they don't know how to swarm and make unbreakable boards on the first turn?
That's their fault for being retarded. once you understand the master rules this game boils down to reading the cards and resource management. And even then Konami prints decks that basically play themselves (Bujin, HERO, Tellar, Zoo) so all you literally need to do is READ THE FUCKING CARDS
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>>180992297
Sure they did, when Links first were revealed and there was only one Extra Deck Monster Zone. People made correct assumptions but then Konami revealed that Link Markers made Extra Deck Monster Zones, and so people quickly realized it wouldn't slow down shit.
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>>180992562
Aren't all but maybe two decks autopilot anyway? And those couple of decks only require memorizing more combos.
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Okay so this is the deck I run in real life. Obviously its pretty shit. However I did manage to beat quit a few decks at locals like Zoos mostly because people dont read basically.

What I want the deck to do is mess with monsters attack points and make it hard for them to run over stuff while limiting their field spam. Any cards you'd recommend for me to add in.
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>>180993539
what's your budget. if you want a non-archetype deck you can run 40 card gudstuff with shit like tkro, fossil dyna, king tiger wanghu and moon mirror shield plus 20 traps
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>>180931096
I still play UAs, even if they're just shitty Monarchs and I brick if I don't get Idea or Midfielder.
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>>180993539
King Tiger Wanghu and Burden of the Mighty. Anything Zoodiac summons will be destroyed before they have a chance to Xyz summon if you go first and have that.
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>>180993867
At the moment I can go up to 60 dollars only because bills are due soon.
Ill make sure to check those out

>>180993951
Alright will try to find a burden as well
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>>180991908
I don't know what that is.
>>180991945
alot of you fuckers from the /a/ and /v/ threads
>>180992562
Do you not realize how fucking retarded that is from a business standpoint. How are you going to get people to continue buying cards and getting into the game when all the cards have all these ridiculous effects and rulings a novice wouldn't be ready to deal with right off the bat, especially children, you know, the target audience for this stuff?
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>>180994391
Read the OP to get YGOPro.
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>>180994391
Most of us don't go to the /v/ or /a/ threads. This is /vg/, if you can't tell.
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>>180994391
Children usually don't have problems understanding this shit, mainly because it's really simple.
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>>180994505
plus /v/ goes full retard post gx and are triggered by nirvana & zarc
/a/ doesnt even duel
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>>180961821
>Crowley and dinosaur meta
Sounds good to me.
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>>180995027
>Crowley
who?
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>>180994643
Okay,then how exactly is a kid suppose to play Aki's deck for example? You can't really rely on Black Garden and burn damage
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>>180995097
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Trivia:Aleister_the_Invoker
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>>180995103
A kid wouldn't play a faggy flower deck, a kid would play something that brings out badass machines or powerful dragons.

Besides, Akiza never had a real deck, plant synchro wasn't her deck
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So question to master peace players. This is a hypothetical so dont freak out about it.

Lets say your dueling an opponent with a trap/spell heavy deck. So far he has stopped your attempts to summon Master Peace by getting rid of your backrow and monsters. However you finally get your chance to summon it. Before your turn however he sets 3 backrow and 1 monster. The monster he sets is D.D. Warrior Lady, the 3 backrow he sets are Ferret Flames, Dimensional Prison and Book of Moon. Your LP are higher than his, you have twin twister and D. Barrier on the field plus 1 monster in hand to summon for defense. What play would you make in that situation.
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>>180995175
Oh silly me.
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>>180994183
Ragnazero
Thunder King Rai-ho
Wanghu
Fossil Dyna
Eater of millions
Neo spacian grand mole
Barrier statue
moon mirror shield
forbidden chalice/lance
pot of duality
card of demise
seal of oricalchos
united we stand
mage power
solidarity
deck lockdown
mirror force and its variants
phantom knight sword/wing/blade
forced back
solemn warning
torrential tribute
compulsory evac
hole trap cards
lost wind

these are all good cards and most are cheap.

>>180994391
you are correct. all decks should be summoned skull beatdown so retards and casuals can win games too
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>>180995295
Depends, is master peace invulnerable to traps and monsters?
Because in that case i can let jesus take the wheel and attack while using Twin Twister to destroy potential threats and save the D.barrier in case he wants to summon the lightning because i am going to assume my opponent got rid of my backrow (As in the TD spells and traps) with cosmic cyclone which means i don't have ammo to blow up the lightning or whatever thing with MP's effect
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>>180995690
Yes he is Immune to Traps and Monsters. Kinda wish there was a way I could set up a field layout with the scenario to show to you guys to make it easier.
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>>180961821
ABC IS BACK i love my union monsters
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>>180996181
That could've helped because how in the world is your entire field not blown the fuck out by negating AND DESTROYING the True Draco spell and traps because these shits float into spot removal so i just assumed you used cosmic cyclone
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>>180991676
> I demand an apology from you fucks who said the Link ruling would fix this.
Of course it fixes the game, my valuable customer! It killed Synchros and Pendulums! And now be a good goy and buy some Link Monsters.
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Stupid question

Let's say i summon Gofu and use the tokens to summon two link spiders, can i link summon a link 2 like Honeybot on the zone that the spider in the EMZ pointed to?
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>>180996280
Ha
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>>180996338
Okay I'll try and explain it a bit better cause I dont think theres a way for me to show you the scenario

Over the Course of the Duel you popped some back row with your True Draco Cards, but Solemn stopped the Summons of Master Peace while cards Like Nobleman of Extermination and Cosmic Cyclone popped Most of your other cards in your backrow. He's also banished the rest of your true Draco stuff using soul release. Eventually the game has winded down to your opponent only have 2000 left to your 6000. . Before he ends his turn he sets 3 S/T and 1 monster face down. The monster is Kelbek, S/T are D.Prison, Book of Moon and Compulsory Escape Device(Ferret Flames doesnt actually work). Right now on your field would be a Master Peace you summoned Immune to Traps and Monster Effects, 1 Twin Twister and 1 D.Barrier.

You obviously dont know which part of the backrow the three cards are, you just know he has 3 face-down spell or traps. How do you play that field. Do you just go in for it and hope for the best or do you play it safe and wait till you have something?
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>>180997752
no
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ded thread post broken cards
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>>181000052
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>>181000052
>broken cards
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>>180997864
i would probably attack going into that situation since most backrow that could stop my attack are traps which wouldnt hit me and its likely the rest are cards like solemns or bluffs
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>>181000326
That's not broken, that's ripped off
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>>181000326
why did he even bother to hunt it down just to destroy it?
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>>181000503
>ripped off
I dont think so
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>>181000603
wanted to make sure only he could play it
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>>181000603
To give an explanation lorewise why YGO has a 3 copies per name rule as opposed to other games' 4 copies. Or something
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>>181000603
>Game has 3 of a card restriction
>Wanted to be the sole owner/user of the card due to ancient Egyptian hereditary memories/reincarnation/spirit connection to Kisara

Pretty much, Kaiba sees someone else using Blue-Eyes as him getting cucked.
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>tfw you'll never rip other players cards so you can be the only duelist with your unique deck

why even live
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>>181003371
I wouldn't like that idea if i was playing a meta deck because then my deck gets ripped in pieces by the banlist
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>>181003371
>edgy weeb at locals tried doing this with Super Quantums
>refuses to play against any deck he deems an "unfair tier 1 meta" deck
>Examples include Frightfurs, Kozmos, Pure Phantom Knights, Pure BA, Monarchs, ABCs, Infernoids, Pure Performapals
>Magic players at locals use him as a strawman example for all YGO players
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>>181004562
>Fluffals
>unfair tier 1 meta
You just remind me of a fun time i got in a "no meta" room
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>>181004562
>joined a no meta tag last night
>summon quik fix
>i said no meta
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>>181004772
He's painfully unaware of the actual meta, though. I faced him one time using Paleozoic Frogs (with a Volcanic engine added for taste) - and I don't even have Toadally yet. He now believes Dinomischus is the most overpowered trap in the game.
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>>181004562
does he play with dark magician?
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>>181005039
When it comes to the type of people like that dude you're takling about that doesn't want to play against meta decks that aren't even meta or good anymore (burning abyss barely functions pure now unless you play lawnmowing, and lawnmowing got limited. how the fuck does burning abyss rustles his jimmies), i think the better advices you can give them to them is to learn how the meta deck plays, hell you said he played Super Quantums, just tell him to buy and max out Fog Kings and Mask of Restricts or even get kaijus because if you control a kaiju and great magnus on field, all hell breaks loose. Or to stop playing the game if he's not going to stop being a bitch

I had to accept in the painful wy that the only way my old and even current petdecks of mine can function is by adding the new goodstuff like an engine or even netdecking a successful version of them, otherwise they're trash cards that fit me perfectly. Besides, when you go from a petdeck to some top tier shit, you feel a fucking relief of "i can't lose", you actually have resources to make your plays, you actually have consistency and power to overcome 90% of the boards your opponent creates and most importantly, you do not BRICK.
I'm not saying that people should abandon their favorite decks but you should playtest the meta decks for a while and learn how shit works and even enjoy playing a good deck for once because i swear, it feels real good when you play a deck that can actually do good plays and not brick like shit.
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>>181004562
>join "no meta" room
>beat their ass with skulls
>they proceed to call king OP
love those kinds of shitters
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>page ten

Zoodicks/Master Peace were a mistake
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>>181011981
who /scoopwhentheyseediagram/ here?
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>>181012425
>tfw I use Diagram in fun and non-Draco builds but still get people upset at me
I just want to play my petdeck
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>>181012493
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Retard here, has this card seen any competitive play?
Being able to get out a free one-card Stardust Warrior whose effect isn't negated seems pretty okay.
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>it's not a Magibullet card.
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>>181016092
CIBR-JP079 直通断線[シャットライン]Shut Line
Counter Trap Card
(1) When the effect of a Monster or a Spell/Trap Card is activated in the same column as this Set Card: Negate that activation, and if you do, destroy that card.
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>>181015070
>whose effect isn't negated
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Infernityfag here.
How the FUCK do i save this?
>>180918408
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>>181016221
So set it in front of the opponent's EMZ?
>opponent destroys your extra monster so both EMZ are free again, then just use the EMZ you used before
That's how it works right?
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>>181016092
>it's not Batteryman support
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>>181016221
lel
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>>181016365
Yep. Necroid doesn't stop cards from activating their effects, and Warrior tributes himself for his negate effect and has to leave the field for the summon effect, so neither of his effects get negated by Necroid.
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>>181016221
why is circuit break so shitty, this whole set feels like secrets of eternity tier
what is there in this set thats decent other than struggling battle
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>>181017217
Shut Line seems great, Metaphys and Gouki are a few cards away from being viable I swear, and the OCG has a dozen different loops with Star Grail already, which have already topped twice.

I haven't tried out Vullets, Crawlers, or Altergeist.
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I've been playing some retro YGO. Can someone remind me why pic related didn't see play in the warrior toolbox formats? I think that it had something to do with Goblin Attack Force, but it's not coming to me.
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>>181018517
Goblin Attack Force is just better for getting over stuff. It doesn't lose attack and it can attack your opponent directly. At worst, its downside is "you take no damage from 1 attack"
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>>181020768
>Goblin Attack Force is just better for getting over stuff
I agree with the rest of what you're saying, but are you sure about this bit? Zombyra can take out a 1,900 beater, act as a wall in front of all of your opponent's beaters, and suicide into one other 1,900 beater. That's two cards to Goblin Attack Force's one.
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>>181021028
Who cares.
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>Circuit Break is following in the footsteps of Cyberdark Impact with multiple column based cards
>So far Circuit Break looks to be a garbage set
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>>181024621
Poetry.
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When are we gonna get a Master Peace tier Link Monster?
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Duel Links is still going going strong. When will it stop /dng/? You said it would die after the first 6 months
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>>181026190
It will die when the f2p unfriendly grindfest backfires.
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>>181025582
Give it 6 months.
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>>181024621
You forgot the next step
>10 years later, a bunch of Circuit Break cards end up defining the meta
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>>181024621
>He compares it to a set that barely touches the mechanic
You people are nigger tier. They are going all in with a new mechanic and you still find a way to complain. You actually would prefer another extra deck spam deck to a refurbished mechanic.
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>>181027624
>You actually would prefer another extra deck spam deck to a refurbished mechanic.
Prove it. The cards aside from the column cards aren't very good either aside from Struggling Battle. Otherwise I wouldn't have called it a garbage set. Never did I say that the set was bad because of the column cards.
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>>181016221
My gut is screaming that this is gonna eventually be seen/used as another 3 Solemns in some hard stunshit
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>>181027927
How is Shut Line bad? Your opponent only has access to a single EMZ.
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>>181016221
>>181028105
technically with the link shit you will be able to anticipate where the useful monsters will be placed so it's actually pretty good
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Could someone explain to me how Unending nightmare works? I was playing Pendulums at a locals and my opponent flipped this up and destroyed my scale, At first I was like oh then I'll play another but he just pays another 1000 and destroys my scale again, luckily I had Purple Poison or I'd been fucked. Is that really how that card works just keep paying 1000 to essentially stop pendulum players from playing?
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Why was CDIP such a fucking mistake?
On release nothing from it was even good, but as the years passed cards from it started becoming relevant and not in a good way
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>>181028252
>How does unending nightmare work
Read the card.
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>>181028208
I didn't say it was bad, just not amazing. It's good mind games if you can set a bunch of cards, but it has plenty of draw backs. If you have something in the EMZ, your opponent would assume that you won't have Shut Line in that column, so they could try to remove your extra deck monster and then use that EMZ instead.
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>>181028426
I am unclear that's why I'm asking, quit being a dick.
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>>181028590
stop being stupid, the card is completely clear.

but in case you still can't tell, that is exactly how the card works.
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>>181028426
JUST-
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>>181029307
fuck off shitter
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>>181028590
What's unclear about it? I'm genuinely asking. I can't think of how you can misunderstand such a straightforward effect.
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>>181028426
>Hypnosister trying to cheer up her stolen, corrupted big brother
>Risebell is just broken inside
Poor him.
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>>181029821
It gets worse when she breaks him further once he starts trying to fight her off after she orders him to kill his real sister.
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>>181029728
I originally thought you could only activate a face up trap cards effect in response during a opponents turn, like in a chain and as far as I know putting a card in a pendulum zone doesn't start a chain. To be fair I've never played yugioh competitively till my locals and therefore am tripping up on old things I thought were a thing like apparently priority isn't a thing.
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>>181016382
>implying that anything involving batteryman C would be batteryman support
>voltech dragon wasn't a big enough red flag
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tfw your deck is dead and beyond resurrection
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>>181029821
I wish Risebell was a bit more useful. I tried teching him into Resonators for Fast access, but it didn't help much.
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>>181032007
*Record Scratch*

*Freeze Frame*

Yup, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation …
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>>181032450
I blame hypnosister for being a yandere obsessive cunt.
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>>181031034
Voltech retrain that helps Batterymen and Magnets when?
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>no meta or overplayed decks
>TKRO
Shitters really love their mental gymnastics so that they can win a game once atleast.
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r8
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>>181032757
Doesn't Hypnosister have parents?
Why doesn't she just pester them that she wants a brother?

>>181033215
How do I play pure Foes?
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>>181033312
Cut the Penguin Vanillas
add 3 Frog the Jam + 2 Unexpected Dai
Add more Paleo cards. Take out the Guard Penguin
Cut Moray of Greed to 1 or 0
Add something like Reckless Greed to trigger paleo cards.

It's penguins though so no matter what you do it will still be shit. atleast if you focus on toadally spam it might actually sack a game from zoo every now and then.
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>>181033506
>pure foes
You don't.
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>>181030808
>putting a card in a pendulum zone doesn't start a chain.
Yes it does. You're activating a spell card, which starts a chain.
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>>181033506
You blow shit up to get more shit, and then beatdown. Ariadne is pretty useful if you insist on not using Gofu or Scout.
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I love this shitty petdeck.
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gimme your ideas for crawlers, /dng/
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>>181034135
no you start and then get criticed
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>>181034135
Wait for the other 3 unrevealed ones
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>>181034135
scapegoat
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>>181034387
all i have to go off of is the yt videos and there's not a sim i can build them in without setting up chinkpro pre-alpha edition
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mfw you can +1 off upstar with magibullet caspar.
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>>181035438
mfw no you can't
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>>181036376
yes you can.
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>>181036478
>You can activate "Magibullet" Spells/Traps from your hand during either player's turn. If a "Magibullet" Spell/Trap is activated in the same column as this card: You can add 1 "Magibullet" card with a different name from that activated card from your Deck to your hand. You can only use this effect of "Magibullet Shooter Caspar" once per turn.

>If a "Magibullet" Spell/Trap is activated in the same column as this card:

which part, exactly?
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>TCG
>self destruction button
>ban

This is not used or degenerate enough to get a ban, so I'm going to assume that it made players salty and TCG banned, cause no fun allowed
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>>181036704
its an ftk staple because you can ftk game 1 then tie the other two and still win
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get a load of that guy
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>>181036704
KoA really dislikes alternate win/lose/draw conditions compared to KoJ
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>>181036704
I don't see the issue, it's cheesy bullshit and bad card design, that should be enough for it to be banned.
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>>181037056
Not really.
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>>181036902
What happened to cameraclops?
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>>181037181

All it does is waste everyone's time. It's not fun.
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>>181037686
You're wasting time playing a game anyway. What you're saying is impossible.
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>>181036624
oh shit then it's a pro bug lmao
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>>181037805
Yeah that's the fucking point dipshit, we're meant to be playing a game. Self-Destruct button doesn't resolve the game like actually winning or losing does; it just ends it in a completely unsatisfying way.
A card that says "Hey you know that game we were playing? Fuck that, it's over" shouldn't exist.
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>>181036704
Same reason as old Ring of Destruction.
Draw scenario in tournament setting.
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>>181037686
>All it does is waste everyone's time
Yeah. That's what makes it fun.
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>Konami prints so many suboptimal decks during and after Dolls, Tellars, Qlis, Nekroz, Noids, Monarchs, PePe, Burning Abyss, Metalfoes, Blue-eyes, ABC, Kozmo, Frogs, Zoodiacs, True Dracos/ Kings and Dinos

>the above all get banhammered or powercreeped

>As a result, we're now stuck in a power vacuum of the remains of these decks being better than the full power version of all the garbage Konami put out so that's why the game is so stagnant

>Thanks to Duel Links, it doesn't even matter since if I deck sucks IRL it can be reincarnated into Duel Links and be half way decent since lol DM era

Is this the end of YGO? Never since GX have I seen the sets be so worthless and thanks to DL, they no longer have to try anymore since the mobile audience eats up anything worse than the TCG audience.
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don't indulge this dummy
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>>181041071
Blue-Eyes should become tier 1 again.
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>>181042102
nostalshit please, you just got a worlds win last year
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>>181042102
deck's too shitty to become tier 1, lacks any disruption aside from one synchro
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>>181042276
>not wanting Blue-Eyes to win worlds in 2016 and 2018
Cringe.
>>181042409
It needs a reimagining of the deck, not the clunky old synchro plays it struggles to make. Field spells that let you draw 2 when activated by revealing a Blue-Eyes + lets you normal summon Blue Eyes without tribute multiple times per turn + giving a 1000 ATK boost.
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>>181042895
>muh epic nostalgia deck needs to have a pot of greed plus spammable 4k beaters and if you don't think it should be best deck ever your stupid
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>>181043478
>this projection
Cringe.
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>>181042895
>this level of retardation
how do you even breathe
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>>181042276
>you just got a worlds win last year
and?
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>>181042276
no seriously, and?
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Daily Reminder: Fuck Percy.
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>>181044313
He's a moron. Ignore him.
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>Anon's prayers are answered
>Blue-Eyes wins worlds again
>Alternative gets limited on the next ban list
Be careful what you wish for
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>>181042895
>It needs a reimagining of the deck

Or you know, how about actual dragons which aren't Nomis or level 5 and over?

Would finally make some cards worth running.
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>>181034086
Do tell me anon, how does it work? I'm really interested in making agents work and it would be fresh to see them in something else than Stargrails.
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How are you going to tackle the issue of card placement while playing physical? I imagine a lot of you, if not most people who plays the physical game, has a mat without outlined zones. A lot of the official Konami mats doesn't even have the zones (reagional mats, sneak peek mats etc). Are you going to have one of those field center markers or are you going to get a new one with zones?
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>>181046350
I'm thinking about spending some shekels on an official Konami mat with the new layout. If not I'll just using the plastic mat that comes with the starter deck.
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>>181046681
I'll just be using*
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>>181046350
draw the zones on with a sharpie
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>>181046350
>Are you going to have one of those field center markers
Yes
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>>181046350
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B06XQF6KHJ/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I2JO6X2LVE194E&colid=TII1XNGOJTIT

i'm tempted to get this
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>>181032007
>Risebell reads MR4
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>>181046350
Man, imagine me who have a fucking duel disk from the 5D's Era, without all these zones.
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>>181042102
Could you explain why?

>>181042895
Why should I want them to win worlds?
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What do you think about Metalfoes, /dng/?
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>>181049071
They're the most balanced pendulum archetype. Yeah its seemingly splashable in everything mainly because shit won't miss timing if they're blown up by metalfoes (gusto and yang zing come to mind) and their fusions while being so good (at least in the case of alkahest, they're tolerable), they aren't broken: mithrilium targets, orichalc only gives you double piercing but he needs metalfoes to be summoned unlike the others and adamante and crimsonite are non effect fusions that only do wonders if you're OCG and you play Super Poly, otherwise these do nothing.

Also their artwork is the most badass thing i've ever seen
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>>181049796
What would you say are their best or most interesting variants?
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>>181016221
This seems like a Solemn Scolding tier shitpost.
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>>181051413
>Solemn Scolding tier shitpost.
it's like you've never even played noble knights
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>>181051606
I'm aware it's funny meme tech in the right deck
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>>181051182
the best variant, probably metalfoes YZ but terrortop got hit so im sure this isn't as explosive but one interesting thing i saw was seeing Lunalight Metalfoes work at all, Cat Dancer is a level 7 fusion, you can literally summon anything from graveyard off Combination and triggering Counter and Reincarnation Dance was cute to say the least but the most amusing part of Lunalight Metalfoes, you never needed to summon Leo Dancer, you could just summon Cat or Panther and let jesus take the wheel
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What archetypes have shotas in it?
Bonus points if it also features a motherly figure
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>>181056557
Majespecters
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>>181056557
Majespecters
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>>181056557
Gustos (Kamui as a shota; Reeze as a motherly figure)

Nekroz (Shurit; Ariel and Dance Princess)

Ice Barrier (Cryomancer; Medium)

Aliens (Alien Kid; Alien Mother)
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>>181057326
shota not furry
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>>181056557
Qli (Towers as a shota, Monolith as a motherly figure.)
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>>181058390
>>181056557
>>181058469

gay
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>>181058558
/ss/ Is the purest form of love.
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>>181058469
>Towers as a shota
I think you mean scout
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>>181058558
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Does this induce as much salt as it did back in the day or have people learned to live with it?
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>>181058558
>>181058673

I don't even like /ss/. I was just answering a question.
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No Vrains this week? Can't find the thread in /a/.
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>>181058686
scout is alpha, towers is beta
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>>181058762
>Unironically running pot of -12
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>>181058862
ping pong'd
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>>181058862
No episode airs this week, also

Halloween horrors arrive early in Circuit Break, October’s 100-card booster set! Marionettes that move on their own, a mad scientist, and vengeful spirits returning to walk the earth are just the beginning of what you’ll find in Circuit Break! This booster is also home to more Link Monsters, including a terrifying new 3000 ATK Dragon that can brainwash monsters it attacks, giving you control over them until their minds burn out. Here’s a little taste of what else is lurking in the shadows...

What’s that chill crawling up your spine? Circuit Break is infested by a strain of insectoid Mekkstrosities that emulate the human nervous system. They cluster rapidly, attempting to take the form of neurons, and if they succeed, all enemy monsters freeze up and become unable to defend their controller!

Memorable monsters reborn! Famous monsters from history like Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys return in powerful and unpredictable phantasmal forms. Enforce order on their chaos and you’ll unlock a cycle of creation and destruction that will only stop with your opponent’s defeat!

Powerful cards that can go in any Deck! Circuit Break has a wide variety of cards that let you do some incredible things no matter what kind of strategy you want to employ. You might find a Trap Card that eliminates cards played in the same column as your Trap, or even a brand-new Trap Card that levels the playing field that your opponent will never see coming...because you can play it straight from your hand!

There are also new cards and Deck themes from Yu-Gi-Oh! VRAINS! You can watch each episode of the latest Yu-GiOh! series soon after it finishes airing in Japan on http://www.crunchyroll.com/ and then pick up great cards from the new series in Circuit Break! (Simulcast currently available in the US only).

The Circuit Break booster set contains 100 cards: 48 Commons, 20 Rares, 14 Super Rares, 10 Ultra Rares, 8 Secret Rares.
>Still no TCG CoTD news
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>>181058762
Pot of Desires is irrelevant because of Ash blossom, you just banish 10 and then you draw nothing
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>>181059053
>trying this hard to hype up this set
Oh Tewart
>we got this before Code of the Duelist
What's going on?
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>>181059053
>They cluster rapidly, attempting to take the form of neurons, and if they succeed, all enemy monsters freeze up and become unable to defend their controller!

that's just not ture
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>>181059053
>circuit breaker is such a shit set that it gets labeled a horror set
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I'd honestly rather have a 80 set of new cards from DM,GX,5Ds,Zexal and Arc-V characters and archetypes than Circuit break's garbage. Why is it so boring? These are suppose to make people want to buy cards and not a single one stands out as something worth making a deck or wanting to make a deck about
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>>181047240
Nice. I'll use Pokémon cards, don't play the game but damn is the art great on some of them.
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Is there any fanart of Tour Guide taking the knot?
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>>181059053
last cards of CIBR known when?!
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>>181016092
>All the shitty support Batteryman are getting electrocuted by Voltech Dragon.
>Varient AAA manages to escape (Because he is useful in other thunder decks)

>>181033203
Ultra-Electromagnetic Voltech Dragon
Light
Level 8
Thunder/Effect
(This card is always treated as a "Batteryman" card.) You can Special Summon this card by banishing any number of "Batteryman" monsters you control or in your GY. This card gains effects based on the number of "Batteryman" monsters you banished for this cards Special Summon. ● 1 or more: If this card attacks a Defense Position monster, inflict piercing battle damage to your opponent. ● 2 or more: This card gains 1000 ATK. ● 3 or more: This card can attack all monsters your opponent controls, once each. ● 4 or more: Unaffected by your opponents card effects. ● 5: Discard your opponents entire hand and send the top 3 card from their deck to the GY.
ATK 2500 DEF 1500

Yea its basically a RhongoBongo Ultimate Tyranno mix but its fun to think what a retrain would be.
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>>181059885
>unicronically liking any tourguide from the ugly artwork
frig off
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>>181051606
I unironically use a single Scolding in True King Dinosaurs since the deck space is pretty tight and the entire solemn brigade won't fit. Actually works pretty well since it catches people off-guard but I will drop it as soon as my shipment of Yang Zings arrive.
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>>181059982
>not wanting to see her fucked by Graff
Fag
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>>181060075
>Graff
>Not Cir
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>>181059053
>a mad scientist, and vengeful spirits returning to walk the earth

Who
Are theese the new tcg exlusive archetypes?
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>>181060075
>>181060185

>Fapping to Julia getting fucked by demons
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>>181060245
White boy mad because Julia gets blacked
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>>181060185
>Cir
>a knot
anon
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>>181060185
>dog
>other dog
>pig
>not the big nasty dragon
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>>181059263
We're getting Code of the Duelist this August you dumdum.
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end
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bump
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Is Red-eyes infecting Joey's entire deck?
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>>181060223
>Mad Scientist deck
>Vengeful Spirit deck
How would they play?
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>>181060441
Burning Abyss don't have dragons
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>>181060854
yes, hence all the diff gimmicks
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This card game is a load of bullocks, the nest idiot who says Percy's delayed because he's trying to skirt the extra deck nerfs is getting pushed downed and violated by these two
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>>181060223
>vengeful spirits
Altergeist i'm guessing.
>>181059053
I'm curious what the marionettes are though
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>>181061034
they do, but no one runs them
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>>181060223
It would truly be bizarre if we got information about the new TCG exclusive archetypes from Circuit Break before getting any info about them from Code of the Duelist
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[screaming intensifies]
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>>181061083
No anon, Altergeist Marionetter is the marionette. Though I'm not sure wether or not their lore fits in with vengeful spirits.
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>>181060441
Please post more Lector
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>>181061252
>1 card in the ED of the zoo player
Damn son
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>>181061065
Why did Gearfried go back to equips? Only the swordmaster was supposed to use them.
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>>181061034
Cagna
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>>181061925
>tfw no real Gearfried support that isn't Red-Eyes
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>>181061034
>>181062025
>Draghig
>Draghignazzo, the "Big Nasty Dragon"
come on
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>>181062350
I think it looks weird desu. Something with the head

If you're going to want to fuck a dragon than Cagna is much more appealing
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out
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>>181062350
>Dragon
>its a fiend
This isn't erect
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What would happen if your favorite monster were to age 1000 years?
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>>181062752
would rust apply or can one assume they are taken care of
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>>181062752
It floats into one of her seven lives
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>>181062752
>Baxia
He'd just turn more broken I guess. Dragons seems to get stronger the older they get and I guess that holds true for Wyrms.
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>>181062975
>Dragons seems to get stronger the older they get
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>>181062952
Unless it's covered with rust proof armor or whatever Jinzo had back in Battle City, yes rust applies.
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I just came back to the game and what the fuck did they do to Crush Card Virus?
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>>181063617
now what if they're cybernetic?
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>>181062752
Twinkies can survive forever without going bad.
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>>181063821
other variants
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>>181063973
The food might, but she wont.
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>>181063852
Either the network dies due to lack of maintenance or it remains since it kept growing and evolving.
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>>181063821

errata instead of permabanned
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>>181064753
live forever with him in charge
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>there are people who think that zoo won't still be t0 after links
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>>181065302
>Level 4 > 5
Damn i just noticed the monitors, its the little details like that why i love ygo artwork
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>>181065490
It all depends, if they ban Lyca, Drancia, Barrage and Rat, then they might be reduced into a petdeck that does nothing because every combo that i've seen involving bullhorn has Lyca summoning a dead zoo to make missus radiant.
Yes i'm unironically wishing that bull doesn't get banned
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>>181065726

Banlist is happening mid september. Zoo will have time to shit over everything before then.
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>>181065726
Just ban everything that has Zoodiac in its name. Everything. It's the only way to be sure.
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>>181066012
I think you mean ban all rank 4s
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>>181062752
Thousand archetype, when?
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>>181066136
next RE gimmick
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>>181062752
Well, since Blaster is an eternally reincarnating force of nature, I'd say probably absolutely nothing.
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>>181062752
Literally nothing
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>>181066012
Call me crazy, but i don't think the entire archetype is the problem, everytime i see a pure zoodiac deck, i just see it being crammed in with other shit like handtraps and the family sized solemn pack and maybe Kaijus.

If zoos are to be hit, then hit the shit that came with them on their best variant, put IKS to 0 for fuck's sake, its bad enough that kaijus shit on everything, this shit makes them searchable and its also a dark hole that spawns a 3300 beater on your side, handtraps, specially ghost ash are incredibly broken and why the OCG hasn't hit them baffles me, i mean the TCG put maxx C to 1, why not do the same for 5head? And finally, put solemn strike in the banlist already, same for dimensional barrier maybe
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>>181066724

>instead of banning one archetype just ban every generic thing that they use

that's retarded
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>>181067286
i said hit them alongside with them, if you're taking down the evil forces, make sure you take down the shit that followed them
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>>181066724
You're an idiot. Like seriously.
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Ideal hits:

Banned:
>Ghost Ash
>Drancia
>Broadbull
>Master Peace
>Kaiju Slumber
>Dimensional Barrier

Limited:
>Ice Bell
>Ghost Ogre
>Dragonic Diagram
>Ratpier
>Whiptail
>Barrage
>Solemn Strike
>Oviraptor
>Fossil Dig
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>Ice Bell
>Fossil Dig AND Oviraptor
>>>>Strike
>>>>Whiptail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ghost Ogre
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>>181067885
Meant to quote >>181067740
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>>181067740
>Ghost ogre limited
I don't think she should be hit, she doesn't negate everything and you're killing diagram, fossil dig and oviraptor won't do shit without true draco goodstuff
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>>181068026
I'm not trying to kill True Dracos, just slow them down a bit.
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>>181067331
That's still retarded.
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>>181062752
>UCT

Dinosaurs are old as fuck so he probably would get stronger
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>>181067286
Horribly designed generically abusable cards deserve to die.
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>>181067331

>lets just ban every generic good card

great idea
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>>181068147

>master peace banned
>im not trying to kill true dracos
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>>181069490
I'd rather we have generic cards than specific archetypes have a billion good cards on their own.
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>>181069490

you'd banning a good amount of the current usable card pool.
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>>181069695
I prefer we not revert to the shitty days of caveman ygo.
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>>181069803
No problems there.
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>>181066136
More like we get to see more cards when they age up 1000 years.

>Baby Dragon becomes Thousand Dragon
>Dark Magician becomes Dark Sage

I never got that logic, Dark Magician is just a guy who practices magic in his 20s but somehow he can live 1000 years.
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>>181070171
You missed the magic part.
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cimo here
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>>181070171
magic my dude
more like 6kyr
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>>181070171
Eating BMG's pussy must be the secret of the immortality.

But the dumb thing is that Dark Sage doesn't look nothing like the Dark Magician of Chaos.
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>>181070171
>Shiny Black "C" becomes Metal Armored Bug
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>>181070423
DMoC not mahad
who is he then?
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>>181070382
That's some kind of magic
>>181070423
>But the dumb thing is that Dark Sage doesn't look nothing like the Dark Magician of Chaos.
Even that
>go from an Egyptian Priest to Magician, to the BDSM Magician, to the Sage

I feel like they got this jumbled somehow
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>>181062752
Despair
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>>181069986

>every card that isn't in an archetype should be banned because i lost a game to a generic good card
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>>181071568
Nice projecting.
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How come Darklords have fallen out of competitive use? They've got really strong cards and a lot of draw power and disruption. If all else fails, shitting out Kristya is still pretty good.
So what gives?
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>>181072417
you have to be able to do that while not getting neg'd which you will be today
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>>181072417
Too inconsistent.

Even Blue-eyes is arguably more consistent than them and that's saying something.

Also >>181072643 and if they out Fiend/Kristya you may as well scoop.
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>>181062752
She is a Goddess so she will be the same? Or maybe like wine, the longer the better.
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>>181062752
heh, nothing personel
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>>181073126
I can see her getting bored and whacking time wizard with her scepter.
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>>181073983
I don't see her doing that. Time Wizard is just a cute card, so I think she will just take it and hug it like a plushie (at least that's what I will also do if I have the chance, what's the worst it can happen for hugging a cute clock like that?)
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>>181074481
>hug
>flip switch or other mechanism
>stay stuck between dimensions through time and space.
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>>181075082
Ok yeah. Maybe it's not a good idea.
It's not my fault I like cute stuff ok?
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post post-link memes

plz rate
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>>181075440
Now that I think about it why the hell didn't Time Wizard get a retrain that's stronger than it's current form?
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>>181076296
>2017
>CotH
>Upstart meme
>41 cards
Boi

http://yugiohtopdecks.com/deck/5980
Replace the Maxx "C" with Ash Blossom, you'll need her to hold off Zoo and Diagram memes.
Trust me, Kaijus are needed to be mained, only way to kill MP reliably these days and Kristya or Fiend can't stop him since he's a Tribute summon and the S/T aren't reliable since he can be immune to them
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>>181071754

You don't even know what that word means.
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>>181076946
I dunno.
But considering how hard Konami are pushing the "Possibilities" lore of Red-Eyes, we may see him retrained soon.
Remember Gearfried.
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>>181076985
i don't see how my deck can win against MP anyway
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>>181077181
i wonder if the reason red-eyes is such a clusterfuck is because konami wanted you to splash them in different decks, and have the "potential" to make certain decks better.
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>>181077307
If it's not MP, you still have Dinos and Zoo to deal with.

Both fold to Fiend/Kristya turn 1 so you should be good.
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>>181077708
If that where too they would have a splashable engine. Unless that's what they want out of the fusion spell and insight.
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>>181077307
You need a way to protect a monster that can beat MP from battle (aka having more than 2950 or buffing attack)
There should be a way to make some combos. For example, I noted that, despite the many ways they have to destroy cards, they still target. So in my case, I can try summon Northwemko (or any other Ritual monster) with Djinn Demolisher of Rituals that protect her from target effects from the opponent (plus other ones, like Presider to gain hand advantage, or Prognosticator and Disserere for Discard effect and being Unaffected by Traps), and then Honest'd him.
Of course, it's not easy for me since that means a lot of cards resource and my opponent can still do something, but I am already used to that, and I learned a few things, so it's not really a big deal for me.
For you, I suggest you to try Kaiju, it's pretty much the best generic archetype to get rid of Boss monster like MP or even Chaos Giant. If there is a way to protect DARK monsters then I can suggest you that too.
>>181077708
I dunno, I don't think they care enough for those archetypes to be good or playable as long it give them big sales. Remember that if it is nostalgia, they try to milk everything of that.
It may work in a future though.
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>>181077708
>i wonder if the reason red-eyes is such a clusterfuck is because konami wanted you to splash them in different decks, and have the "potential" to make certain decks better.

They've longed since thrown that lore out the window the moment they gave Blue-eyes tuners and synchros which devalues the high attack power it was meant to be known for sitting on floodgates.

They're just taking the piss out of DL by printing that side set and making RE even more confusing.
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>>181071553
>Guess The Monster
Shit, I dunno, Ryu Kokki?
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>>181078291
attack boost and negate is asking too much desu, might as well side in 3 mirrors, viruses and pray
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>>181078291
>Northwemko
but she's shit anon
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Just wait, when Red-Eyes get his own waifu card with broken links/fusion effect, everyone will regret of making fun of the archetype!
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>>181079851
>not recognizing Northwemkoanon
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Glads taking up two secret spots

https://yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=8280
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>>181080194
>waifu card

$10 says it'll be Lightning bait
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>>181080346
For something that will be almost completely unplayable post-Links, that's a rather strange decision.
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>>181077137
Nice projecting.
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Holy shit there's a yugioh general here? I remember playing this when I was five years old.
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>>181081584
Run away while you still can, anon.
The game is radically different from what you remember it as, you were probably not even playing with the right rules back in your school playground.
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>first Yugi's ace
>never got a proper support

Skull Archfiend structure deck, fucking when?
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>>181083014
>Archfiend
nope, just Summoned Skull
dont lump him in with that shit
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Look guys I'm a good deck builder. If you put two decks that auto lose to d-barrier you can beat barrier. Although my zoo ratios are probably bad.
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What is the win condition of zoodiac? Ive watched the deckprofile of the guy going 17-0 and I just can't figure out what makes the deck just SO strong. Sure you can get a fat beater with quickplay destruction but how can it be worse than another bossmonster?
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>>181083347
Speaking of Archfiends
where do I put Trade-In and Terra?
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>>181084574
Zoo is just more consistent and goes off easier than any other deck in the game right now, that's literally it.

Other decks need at least 2-3 cards to work but Zoo just needs 1 card and it'll just play out itself.
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>>181079851
For you maybe. But not for me.
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>>181084912
Testing it out I agree, I guess the skill lies in not overcomitting while still having an advantage. Pic related is the deck. I feel like if I would play it that I would just overcommit and just get shut down if I dont have something to save the zoos
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Lets inject some life into this thread before it hits 750.

Pic related was probably one of the best sets in the game's history and was certainly among the best of the DM era. How can you not love the pack that finally put an end to Summoned Skull/Jinzo beatdown and brought us Warrior Toolbox, along with great mechanics like searcher spells (e.g RotA) and low level monsters which special summon other low level monsters (e.g Marauding Captain)?
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>>181078375
>Skull necklace
>Post 1000 years
>ghostly flames
literally his pre-evo
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>>181086680
Kill yourself.
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>>181086945
ancient cloak is cute
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>>181086680
And then Invasion of Chaos happens and all hell breaks loose
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>>181087143
t-thanks
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>>181088689
fixed
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>>181089093
>>181089006
:3
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>>181089093
>>181089006
nice
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>>181088689
is this cropped porn?
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Post your cardfu's.
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>>181090729
your cardfu's.
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>>181090729
Maybe next thread, we're 5 posts left
>inb4 its made earlier like last thread
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>>181090482
nah
I can see why you assumed that though
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>>181091143
Fuck you we're at 749 on my end.

NEW THREAD:
>>181091430
>>181091430
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>>181091145
Yeah, i just saw something on the right and tought it might've been Yuto having Ruri ride his cock
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