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Old thread: >>180781941

>New TF2 Blogpost about Balance Changes:
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=30147
>list of good comm. servers
http://www.teamfortress.tv/servers

>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: pastebin.com/6t7WNtgn
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf | steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: scrap.tf | tf2outpost.com | backpack.tf | bazaar.tf
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: backpack.tf | trade.tf
Scrapbanking: scrap.tf | scrapbank.me
Skins: p337.info/tfview/

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ (embed) | pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
FBTF (Brazil): teamfortress.com.br/forum/

>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W

>/tf2g/s looking to party queue
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15-e-Sut2sj954Cjm8aGzXMaN4dSSop7xgiyp9DCdOK8/edit?usp=sharing
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*hacker noises*
I'm in.
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Patch note:

Caber provides enemy team with unlimited uber
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>>180862364
>>180862364
>>180862364
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All hail the Detonator
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>>180873363
thats an unfair comparison, people know where a jump ends, aka when the player touches the ground. demomen can just essentially make a new ground wherever there aren't rockets which makes it much harder to track

>>180873371
far too unpredictable which is the point of nerfing it to begin with

>>180873617
its random and unfair to everyone using a projectile weapon, stop pretending you can just guess where a demoman will pull back out his parachute when he can do it anytime he pleases

>>180873759
so sniper, direct hit soldier, and reserve shooter are the only combinations that would be good against him. even a pyro has a chance against a demo on the ground but sure as fuck not while in the sky
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delet this thread
neps must be stopped
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are there any graphic mods that dont look like shit and dont fuck up the skyboxes?
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Adapt and overcome - U.S. Marine mantra

Whine and nerf - Competitive TF2 players
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>>180874316
>caring about the skyboxes
this isn't csgo you don't need to line up grenade throws with certain clouds
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>>180874382
nigger its a videogame, its supposed to be fun for everyone, its not war. surely you are just baiting me at this point?
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>>180874543
i don't appreciate the pink and black chess board really.
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>>180874645
shitting on comp players for being garbage while they simultaneously condescend to us "lessers" is the only fun to be had anymore
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>>180874657
that means you installed something wrong
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>>180874927
hard to install something wrong when the instructions are "paste these to your /tf folder

the mod itself might be broken
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Yo i played the shit out of this game back in 2009-2014, thinking of getting into it again. Should i?
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>>180876012
go for it, there's an update coming "soon", so now would be a good time to relearn everything
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>>180876462
I read the patch notes. They actually look good.
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Why are all these nerfs comp focussed.
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pyro update?
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>>180877179
so that all weapons can be viable in comp and also because balancing the game around comp doesn't harm casual at all, and in fact makes it more balanced
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>>180874862
i top fragged on vanguard with base jumper, sticky jumper, and pain train in a casual match, players in casual don't do any better at all if that is really the point you are trying to make
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after heavy who gets a class pack
I bet they'll revive engi vs spy
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>>180874067
?????????????????????
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official attack/defend cp tier list

nothing else even fucking compares tier:
>steel

good maps tier:
>gravelpit
>gorge
>mountainlab

better dustbowl tier:
>egypt

it doesn't get worse... right? tier:
>dustbowl
>snowplow

dedicated to everyone who thinks 2fort is bad tier:
>junction
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>>180877963
>there are people IN THIS THREAD who still get lost on steel
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>Goal: Reduce the effectiveness of "pocket'd" Snipers in stalemates/standoffs (this primarily happens in organized/competitive play)

What does pocket'd snipers mean?
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>>180878117
reporting in
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>>180878117
>he knows ho to navigate steel
how to spot a tryhard in on easy step
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>>180877721
oh maybe he was talking about the BB

You know it's weird I don't see people on pubs using it more, once you've got 4 headshots stacked that thing is a fucking menace
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>>180878130
im pretty sure they meant pocketed snipers, i see why you are getting confused
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>>180877963
>steel and gravelpit on top
Good taste fampai
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>>180878331
fuck pocket medic, thats right
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>>180878130
snipers that don't die to the other sniper's headshots because they got healed

Honestly they should just make it so that regardless of a sniper's health, he'll still die to a single SR headshot
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>hear spy nerfs
>say fuck it and get reacquainted with stock
>feels good
>look good
Anyone else on the acceptance part of dealing with loss, yet?
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>>180878176
i used to use it but its more of a gamble than for example the heatmaker. once i learned i could use the focus even without the bar being full i went bonkers
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>>180878643
>not already playing with almost entirely stock weapons
get your head in the game spy who looks almost exactly like mine
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Comedy tiers:
Top tier: calling people faggots on the internet
High tier: replacing the beginning consonants of words with the B emoji
Mid tier: arbitrary shitposting
Shit tier: Well thought out and structured original jokes
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>>180878939
faggot
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>>180878789
Nah I was an amby/ice pick/dr for the longest time. headshots turned me on, being fire immune and sonic speed was great.

But then now I need to relearn meatshots and shit. but now that you mention it I do have a ranger I never use and some maps are devoid of ammo packs. ganna give it a go. thanks
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>>180878643
Stock is always supreme, but l'etranger can be good too. I like these balance changes, makes it easier to spot all the crutch users by their tears.
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>>180878117
the only map I ever get lost on nowadays is yukon
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>>180878643
>>180878789
awful
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>>180878117
>There are people in this thread who cannot even pubstomp
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>charmer's chapeau
literally reddo's hat
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Goodbye amby and dr, you were the bestest stuff.

Dead Ringer, you I can understand getting nerfed
But Amby my old friend who survived 2 or 3 stat wipes and almost 5 or 6 years.. you did not deserve what happened to you.
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L'etranger + Big Earner + Dead Ringer new meta.

get fucking ready people
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L'etranger + stock + stock
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>>180878939
Ho! That's me alright!
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my sister (male) works at valve

https://pastebin.com/sz75NDiW
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>>180874125
I got one too Viva! ;)
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>>180879748
is your sister hot
do you have pictures of her feminine benis
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post more spies
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>>180880157
This is THE best spy loadout.
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>>180880157
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>>180879748
>manmelter buff
oh boy
>no third degree buff
angery
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>>180880157
>>180880336
>blood banker
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>>180880157
I don't play this class
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Where's the 'feedback' option in the tf2 menu? Am I just blind?
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>>180880725
What does this mean
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>>180880768
it's on the right of the website
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>>180880157
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what the fuck
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do you think valve won't go through with any of the changes?
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>>180881236
the changes are being made by some DOTA2 intern who fucked up, played 1 comp match and decided to nerf the things that killed him.

and for like a 9 year old shooter game, no one is left around to stop him
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>>180881236
i think they'll probably change around the ambassador because not only is the change not that good but also because of the outcry in general, but i don't think they'll keep any of the weapons they're changing as-is.
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does the no-fall damage bonus from the pbpp block damage from the mantreads too?
someone should test it out while it still has that upside
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>>180881372
Their idea is good, they don't want the close-range melee class to be a long range snippy snip class because we already have a snipperman. Maybe just make it less RNG, because with the change, long-range headshots can still happen and are even more horeshit.

>>180881370
(You)
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>>180880725
It's the perfect cosmetic, improves his default look without really changing it
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>>180880615
but it does get a buff depending on how you look at it

now nobody can call it a direct upgrade even though it is in 80% of situations
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lurker's leathers are the best spy shirt since it replaces the ugly default pinstripe pants
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>>180881892
Is that even an upside? I've never seen someone get a manntread kill on someone who wasn't afk, much less an actual moving scout. I don't play much hightower though.
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the only time i ever got a mantreads kill post-2013 was on medieval mode
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what is this meme about direct hit behind harder to rocket jump with i can literally only rocket jump with direct hit
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>>180879987
>>180874125
It's all about the detonator baybee
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new watch
>infinite cloak
>leave behind team colored cloud when invisible
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there should be collectors collectors weapons where it takes 200 collectors weapons to craft one
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new watch
>no cloak
>on right click: send out 2 bot clones
>clones have 60 health and act try to get players to chase them, but they never attack
>can't use watch again until 30 seconds after the last clone dies
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>>180883620
Annoying and pointless. Just like the spy class. You're hired.
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>>180883620
Other than the fact that people would absolutely use that to overload and crash a server with bots, that sounds fun.
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>>180883620
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Why are scouts mains so whiny?
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It's been forever since i've made a spray, but does anyone know why when I try to make this transparent, the background shows up as black?

I've split the gif into 6 png files, and made sure that the background was transparent, but it still shows up as this
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>>180882217
>Maybe just make it less RNG
that's what i'm saying, i don't mean that making spy not able to pretend they're snipers anymore is a bad thing, i mean the proposed change to solve that isn't so good
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>>180884092
prob because valve doesnt allow transparent? don't quote me on that
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Post a picture of the most valuable thing in your inventory whether it's by how expensive it is or how rare it is.
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>>180884849
Damn Viva.
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Why must people who apparently don't know what fun servers are allowed to ruin games for people who actually want to play the game?
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>>180885020
why are you ruining their fun anon, they're just playing the game the way they want to play it :^)
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>>180884702
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>>180885020
>Oh no, there are people who are better than us on the other team, better throw the game by taunting in spawn
Why is this not considered griefing? Why does the TF2 playerbase actively encourage this?

>>180885108
>They want to play baseball on the soccer field while everyone else is playing soccer, why can't you just let them do what they want?
I wish everyone who thinks like this a slow and fiery death.
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>trying to play turbine seriously
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>>180884702
tfw poor
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>>180885358
:(
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>>180880157
I don't play much spy, I've had this fedora and col roule ages ago, not long after I stopped being free to play.
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>>180878357
heheh ty anon but I know ;3
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>>180885309
I don't expect serious gameplay on a pub, but I do expect people to actually play the game. If you're that upset by dying to someone better than you in Team Fortress 2, so much so that you have to throw the game and ruin it for everyone else, you should seriously reconsider your choice in game.
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what are some in game mechanics that need to be fixed? I want to email valve, but I'm sure I'm forgetting many
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>>180885020
>turbine
Stop playing shit maps
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>>180884702
at least i'm not the poorest one here
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>>180885916
I like playing Turbine and I think it's fun. I'd rather play CTF than Payload any day.
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>>180885916
turbine is good for sniper dm but that's about all i use it for
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>>180884702
This thing.
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>>180884702
405 keys
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>>180884702
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>>180886024
>but it's fun
clearly not if you're complaining

>>180886090
>turbine is good for sniper dm
no, play actual sniper dm maps instead
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>>180886598
actual sniper dm maps don't have you shooting at non-sniper targets
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sniper is literally just an easier scout
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>>180886598
i don't mean sniper v sniper, i mean just sniping in general without having to care about the objective.
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>>180884702
kind of poorfag reporting
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>>180886679
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>>180886837
not really, i find sniper easier than scout. though sniper is my most played class so that might have something to do with it.
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sniper is broken in tf2 and the only thing balancing him in tfc was the fact everyone could bunnyhop to close the distance
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>>180884702
EOTL effects are GOAT, this is not debatable
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>>180887059
then why doesn't everyone run sniper on 6's teams at all times
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>>180887120
you're correct, except for molten mallard
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>>180880157
mmkay
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Whats wrong with my spps?
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>>180887373
he wants out
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i bottom fragged this game but CHECK THIS OUT
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>>180886717
>>180886647
if you mean just sniping in general turbine is the worst fucking map
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>>180887531
youre hud looks like SHIT
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>>180887551
how so? it's flat and open with wide sightlines. also getting crackshots through the stairs is satisfying as shit.
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>>180878643
>>180878789
>Charmer's Chapeau
What's it feel like being the thumbnail of a spy kill montage?
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>>180887582
YOU DONT MEAN THAT IT IS VERY INFORMATIVE AND NICE LOOKING
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>>180884702
1/1 in existence; selling for two keys
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>>180887719
i spent like 20 minutes in loadout.tf looking for a decent spy loadout because my spy is the loadout i'm least pleased with and found like no good hats. miscs, sure but good spy hats are a bastard to come by. the l'inspecteur is good, but that's about it. all the good spy hats are overused as shit, there's no untapped ground to work with. you want me to make a good looking set around that fucking egyptian hat? really? what about the ninja cowl? you don't even know what that is. you probably think i made that up. spy seriously has some of the worst hats in the game and this is coming from the same game that has pyro in it.
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>>180888034
>Having taste THIS bad
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>there are people in this thread unironically wearing charmer's
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>there are people who unironically post in this thread
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>there are Lime/Pink Scout that still exist in TF2
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How do I move that Gear Up?
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>>180888769
bind "mouse2" "explode"
then right click to grab the gear
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>>180888924
gotcha
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>TF2 still exists
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>2007 was 50 years ago
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>>180887698
>how so
You're retarded and will never get good at the game
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>>180889412
well you're not very good at explaining things so i guess we're both in a bad place
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>>180889485
>you're not good at explaining things
I don't need to
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>>180888303
ok what about this then, this was the best i could come up that doesn't use some fancy fedora or charmer's shit
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>>180889647
Groovy/10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpkPet9dtl0
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>>180884702
Move out of the way poorfags
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>tfw found the moogen gloryhole futa animation in my downloaded sprays folder

what now
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post it
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post it
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upload it somewhere that doesn't require an account
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and where would that be
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mega or anonfile
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here you go you fucking baby
https://anonfile.com/WbpcQ1b7b4/moogan.vtf
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>>180879748
>being so autistic you post your headcanon patchnotes in every thread, updating it each time
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>spawn camp in casual mode
>talk tons of shit
>leave after games so they dont make me eat my words
r8 plan
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>>180893798
2/10, apply yourself
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I just got vote kicked for 'hacking' because I was better than everyone
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>>180894153
It's a good feeling, ain't it?
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>>180894259
nod really. it makes me mad that my team kicks anyone the other team tells them to.
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>>180894413
A lot of pubbies just can't tell the difference between skill and actual hacking.
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>>180893798
>talk shit but can't take a hit
>still manages to make kiddos frustrated
4/10
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>>180893360
>being so autistic that you write a song entitled 'i am a cuck' to """own""" the word cuckold and combat the mean 4chan bullies who call you a cuck for having asinine world views

tim heidecker is a joke give me my fucking show back
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>>180894941
They really need to put spectator mode back in
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>>180895515
where is charls
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>>180895658
fuck you
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tfw u ruin the friendly party
tfw ur not good enough at pubstomping to have a 2:1 k/d
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>>180895658
Bitch
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are they going to put in the option to reset medals
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>>180895813
>join game
>H-HEY EVERYBODY GO ENGIE
>go pyro to protect from the inevitable spies
>K-K-KICK HIM FOR NOT PLAYING ENGINEER
>passes
this game sometimes really sucks
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>>180895962
Got matched into a Hightower meme server with like 7 friendlies on the other team and I kept bullying them over and over until they convinced my team to votekick me.
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6 scouts vs 2 engineers with all buildings fully upgraded and a heavy who only uses buffalo steak + fists of steel

who wins
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>>180884702
Rarity is nice.
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reminder soda popper is a direct upgrade because the blue text completely nullifies the red text
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give pyro every stock hitscan weapon in the game as a secondary but make them ignite people. sniper rifle wouldn't be able to get headshots.

pyro is fixed
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>>180897491
Why would he need any of that when he has the shotgun?
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>force a nature has more pellets so you can deal more damage
>but also has a damage penalty

whats the point ? ?? ?>???
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let pyro equip all 4 flamethrowers at once
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>>180897758
Probably to encourage getting up close for meatshots
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give pyro current sandman
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give pyro a glock
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pyros did 9/11
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Give pyro some melee weapons, he barely has any.
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>>180895813
>kdr
Literally irrelevant. It's all dependent on what gamemodes you play and since none of them are DM it says little about someone's skill.
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>>180899197
t. bad
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>>180899267
I knew you were going to say something like this. Having a 2:1 kdr on pubs is not impressive.
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>>180899267
I'd gladly take someone with a shit k:d who actually got the objective done
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>>180899083
pyro has enough melee weapons for every situation
>powerjack for going fast
>koth/5cp: back scratcher
>spies: homewrecker
>combos: axtinguisher
>medics: third degree
>water: neon sign

the one who does need a melee weapon ironically has the most melee weapons in game: demo
his only melee weapons that arent for knight are shit
>capturing control points and dying to scouts: pain train
>killing yourself but not your enemy: caber
>going slow: skullcutter
he just needs a normal melee that isnt stock like soldier or medic have
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is 5cp gorge still in casual rotation?
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>>180900249
no:(
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>>180900295
fuck, the 2cp version sucks
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>when she sees your dick
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>>180900659
>the only girl tf2g ever had isnt even a girl
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shuckle is a girl (female)
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>>180900836
there was an ugly fat bitch w/ a moustache here in like 2012/13
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>>180900971
Don't forget Puddi.
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>>180901112
was chigga a tf2g or just an orbitter
>>
Can anyone remember an old gmod video where the demo got a full 'makeover' - poking fun at the addition of cosmetics, may have been made around the time paints were added as I think that's what it was poking fun at

Just remembered it and thought it was pretty ironic since full cosmetic sets are now a thing, would like to see it again if anyone knows what I'm talking about
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>>180900836
>granberia
>mai
>yellowquiet
>puddi
>deejay
>shuckle
>jocelyn
??? theres been plenty of girls here dude
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Would you buy it?
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>>180901776
Why would anyone when pocket Pauling exists
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>>180901776
>decalable
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>>180901976
oh god yes
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Name my 2v2 TF2 LAN
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>>180901741
all literally who and probably dead
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megau ltiduo
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Kino?
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>>180902142
"im not gay but $20 is $20"
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>>180901976

oh hahahahahah, yes
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>>180901776
Not rea-

>>180901976
Pic related
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>>180901310
Nvm found it lads

https://youtu.be/gIafaUfkLSQ

A modern classic
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minicrits should do 50% more damage
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>>180901741
deejay wasnt a girl
>>
*mini crits u*
>>
>playing against a stack of 6+ level 150 friends
is there a worse feeling
like at least hackers you can convince them to kick but it's the unbeatability of hackers combined with the inability to do fuck all about it
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>>180905306
iirc 6 is the max stack for queueing.
Why don't you stack with tf2g?
>>
how many people from your country are ETF2L high level?
>>
me
>>
im mid but i could probably be high if i played medic
but playing medic is horrible at a high level
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>>180905537
barely any tf2g's on the west siede. there's like jnkns and HEE HO and i think morwanegg i've seen once or twice? i know i saw wanderer once but i know he's in florida or some shit so i don't know what he was doing here. i know i'm probably missing a couple but i'm just going by what i've seen and who's on my list.
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>>180905907
Morwanneg is east coast like me, but I'm up late as fuck. I'm usually down to queue.
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>>180905907
well I'm a westie, I just keep weirdass hours
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>>180905570
two
what's the point of this question
>>
give the pyro a lightning gun
>>
Quick question: Can't they just make the upcoming weapon changes (some of them) exclusive to competitive? So in theory, a weapon would have different usage in casual and in competitive. That would stop the whining right?
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Show us things you've built.
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>>180907323
their goal is to make casual and competitive not be completely different so that would be the most counter-intuitive thing they could do
>>
lightning gun would be stupid op in a slow fps like tf2
in quake its fine because everyone is fast but not everyone is fast in tf2
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>>180907708
What if you were to increase the damage tick intervial?
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>>180907708
wouldn't a weapon that melts through slow (tanky) classes be perfect to counter the stalemate problem
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>>180907675
But aren't they meant to be different? Like in CS:GO you try to have fun in casual, and take the game a bit more serious in matchmaking. What's the point of having same gamemodes but with different names?
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>>180899083
>>180899736
>flanks: Powerjack
>escort and camp at pushes: Backscratcher
>divebomb ambush on pockets: Axting, Third Degree
>pybro at defense: Neon, Homewrecker

Only melee that doesn't fit any classment is S.V.F and I think it can be tweaked to fit in either flanks or divebomb purposes.
In general you can't go wrong when you pick Backscratcher, because 25% more damage is something and downside is irrelevant.
Medics can heal you with xbow bolts without sparing their attention away from their pockets, also healing a BS Pyro with Medibeam builds a high uberrate longer since it takes ages for BS Pyro to reach 142.5% health from a hurt state.

Also in my opinion Demo already have a really good melee selection.
>pocket with stickies or hybrid gl-knight: Zatoichi, Pain Train, stock Bottle
>full time booties knight: Eyelander, Skullcutter, Claidheamh
>sentry defender: Caber, Persian Persuader
Problem here is; Pain Train and stock Bottle appears to be multipurpose but that's okay. Just appreciate Zato more.
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>>180905907
Still waiting on that update. I wanna drink in the tears of guillotine users and spy mains

It's not hee-ho, though, it's notebook (or niggerboy like wanderer says)
also changed name to everyone's favorite MGS character for a bit
>>
>>180908336
why do you namefag as niggerboy then
>>
>>180907798
it would still be strong

think about how many weapons are
-100% accurate
-have fast fire rate
-are hitscan
-have no clip size
thats right, there arent any
and this thing would be extemely broken because of these four qualities
it allows for hitscan spam and massive damage without any spool up and its perfectly accurate
no thanks

>>180907830
to break stalemates is okay, but this thing would consistently melt heavies soldiers and demos, not just when stalemates occur
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>>180908669
Eh, easier to remember?

Also, post rocketmen
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>>180908773
what are we naming here
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>>180908836
rocket launcher
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>>180908773
Cop Killer

Born to kill
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>>180908773
penis dick cock launcher
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>>180908773
4chan.org/vg/tf2g for epic memes! XD
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>>180908773
hahaha hoyl shit
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>>180908773
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>>180908773
dickniggersuckcockpen
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>>180908773
I started this, and I regret it already desu
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>>180909503
Turns out, filenames really are a myth
>>180908773
I eat donkey balls
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>>180907069
>only 2
hah, noob
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>>180908773
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>>180909517
>>180910340
Alright, my fucking router stopped working for more than a minute, i'm back

Wondering, should I buy a Head Case for this, or just go on being the Teufort Knight?
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>>180911583
rainboober
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>>180909305
Nice pairing with the No Name and the Stash
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>>180911583
buy a new rig before you consider buying virtual shit. I bet you don't even have a 144hz monitor
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>>180910626
we're just that rare

>>180910927
i don't really play pugs, just scrims and mixes
mixchamp seems dead
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>>180912348
>using a 144hz monitor
everyone knows 128hz is best dipshit
theres a reason why computers work in multiples of 64 bits instead of 72's
>>
>>180912431
this is the worst pseudo science i've read this week
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>>180911583
Friendly fire
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>>180912484
well its true

have you EVER heard of a 144 bit cpu?
a 144 bit gpu?
144 bit encryption?

dont give into the memes anon
144 hz is the new "blast processing"
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>>180912654
it wasn't that funny the first time either
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>>180911949
Thank you, friend
>>
Any of the new maps any good? With new I mean 1 to 2 years old
>>
>>180913651
If you want matches that last more than an hour, play Powerhouse.

Borneo has to be my all-around favorite payload map.
>>
i like sunshine
dunno if you'd call that new

powerhouse is pretty good too
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shit, I guess NOBODY reads filenames, not just janny-jans
>>
I read it I just don't care
>>
beggars bazooka + rocket jumper when
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tomorrow
>>
!!!
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>>180911583
stand strong, pybro knight
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>>180915349
Well I guess i've gotten a name for the flamethrower now
>>
It's late, i'm tired, and i'm going to bed.

Will roll for desc later
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i like lord cocks pith helmet
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i like cocks :x
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>>180887248
I know Im fugging late on this but
>dissing on ducks
nigga Ill hunt you down
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>>180917638
>worst EOTL effect
>worst halloween event
Seriously, screw ducks.
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Whats a good hud?
>>
aHud
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>>180918372
>like KBN
>completely bork'd target_id system
>cant be used to see health in mvm
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>>180918096
fuck off!?!?
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>>180921484
if you really liked ducks, you wouldn't want a duck to be on fire
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>wearing unusuals
>wearing genuines
>wearing vintages
>using killstreaks
>using stranges
>using australiums

>using weapons or wearing cosmetics of quality other than pure stock or unique
how hard do you have to compensate for being bad at the game?
>>
You jelly brah?
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>>180923371
i like sparkly things and counting numbers. i'll give you vintage and genuine though, i don't see the point.
>>
>implying I wasn't that one smurfing gibus battle engie that dominated your burning flames professional killstreak ass yesterday with frontier justice
lmfao
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>>180923371
>>using killstreaks
>>using stranges
Nothing wrong with these.
>>
remove levels from casual
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>>180923838
>i like sparkly things
I dislike most unusual effects, they're just flashy in a trashy way or edgy for the most part or sometimes even disgustingly ugly although some are admittedly pretty and tasteful (blizzardy storm and death at dusk come to mind - you can't go wrong with nature)

killstreaks are obviously for e-peen and stranges too in some way but there is one thing I don't get

numbers on stranges mean nothing afaik, you can just go on some idle server and grind all day and night to get hale's own and anyone can do that, is this supposed to appeal to autistics or something?

collector's show that you clearly have nothing better to do in life than to hoard same fucking weapon or cosmetic and then waste time in crafting process

also killstreak effects are just edgy
>>
I have a dual monitor setup and sometimes when i move the mouse to the left fast while playing, i lose focus from the game and minimize it accidentally since i guess the mouse technically moves to the left screen
how can i stop this from happening?
>>
>I have a dual monitor setup
this is where you fucked up
>>
that doesnt make sense
how is having 2 monitors fucking up
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>>180911583
That's a really good pyro loadout, I like it. Rainblower looks out of place, though.
>>
it's too much for anyone who isn't a fucking nerd..
>>
>Playing a mix (6 guys looking to play comp against some other random 6 guys)
>Britmix + 1 rusky friend of mine pops up
>We win normally
>Rusky friends send me chatlog of how fucking mad they are at us and how they say we are toxic for having won against them
is there anything worse than a brit?
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>>180927513
this tf2 is only for poor people that post their loadouts
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>>180927291
never happens to me

try not playing in windowed
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>>180928770
im on fullscreen
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>>180928884
maybe try enabling raw mouse input

i dont know
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i have 3 screens
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>>180929110
googled around putting "CSGO" isntead of "TF2" and got the following semi-fix
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>>180929319
oh
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>>180929110
>2fort
Have you no shame?
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>>180929531
he's just some noob that got rekt, forgive him
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>>180929531
:s
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>>180929724
needs a vaci up his ass
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do i need a **** up my ***
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>>180929724
always the poorfags
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>>180930014
anonymous spends more time looking at hats than playing the game

the shiny medal means i am a pro gamer
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>>180929724
thats a lot of hud for such a little resolution
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>>180930714
but i can see the sniper boy just fine

i use the mouse to look around
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>>180930361
>tf2
>pro gamer
How much money you made? Is it enough to sustain a healthy lifestyle? Is it less than minimum wage? Ergo you're no pro gamer.
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>>180923371
I'm just topscoring two games at once, don't mind me.
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>>180931312
um
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>>180931312
I've made around 15 dollars in total
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>>180931402
nvm, you're extremely professional
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>>180931402
you are not me

>>180931453
he is not me
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>>180931491
you're not the boss of me now
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why does 90% of the playerbase play 2fort all day
>>
>Nerfing Bonk!

why
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>>180932184
Degreaser for shotgun bullying.

>>180932104
Crutch map for bads.
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>>180932182
so it won't be banned in 6s
not saying I agree, but that's the reason for it
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>>180884702
professional killstreak sticky jumper
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>>180932596
I think it had less to do with 6s and more that bonk scouts jumping in just to destroy teleporters is annoying as heck. They're mostly trying to rebalance things that are considered crutches or underused from what I understand.
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>>180884702
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>>180884702
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>>180880157
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>>180884702

I got rid of my valuables years ago.
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>>180901776
yeah sure
>>180934439
BOSS
THAT'S AN ENEMY GUNSHIP
>>
reminder that the mutated milk and self-aware beauty mark are direct upgrades
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>>180927291
get a cursor locker that locks the mouse to one screen, it happens because youre moving your mouse too quickly
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>>180931370
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what does 0.38 ref mean. how do i do that
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>>180938148
0.05 ref = one unique weapon/half a scrap i think
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>>180938148
One reclaimed and a weapon
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>>180938148
it means they're desperate for metal and you should find a different trader
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how do i trade away all my mvm parts
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>>180940017
Go to a banking site or use the steam community market
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use me
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>>180935790
my other spy loadout looks like this. I'd get an in game screen but I don't feel like opening it right now.
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>>180941571
where's the third item
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Spy Cosmetics Tier List

>shit loadout no matter what tier
>charmers chapeau

>edgey weeb tier
>noh mercy

>shit on any class tier
>lime and pink/stupid cosmetics like the banana hat

>totally looks like a face and not some creepy shit doll tier
>handsome jack mask

>no originality tier
>metal gear loadouts

>totally not edgy
>any of spys big bulky jackets or shirts

>good tier
>literally everything else
>>
>good tier
>mullet
>nano
>brain warming wear
>janissary
way to invalidate your list
>>
i forgot one
>edgy and not even pretending
>any bandana
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>>180943491
yes, literally any of those are better than pro spy main loadout #834957
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>>180943520
It's good for frags
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>>180943213
it looks relatively convincing if you're not too retarded to hide the edges
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>>180944465
*drifts into mid*
*triple airshots u*
ez
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>>180943213
>shit loadout no matter what tier
>charmers chapeau
Ok bud.
>>
>>180944974
it looks like a dumb mannequin face, especially with the chunk of metal on the chin.

>>180945629
congrats on spending hundreds of dollars to look exactly like every other spy main
>>
>>180945629
goldLUL
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>>180945762
>dissing spy's goatee
rude
>>
>>180945629
epic 2hu meme
>>
>>180945629
good effects don't save hats
that's the equivalent of a sunbeams coupe
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post pyro
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>>180945762
You're just jealous. Also, I can't look like any other spy main because there are only two of these in existence.
>>
95% of pyros cosmetics don't make sense
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>>180945629
Cosmetics are supposed to give your classes some individual flair so you can stand out of the crowd in your own way. Why then, would you want the most overused hat in the whole game? All that hat tells me about you is that you exclusively play spy, even if it means being the fifth on our team.
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>>180946487
Huddah huh~
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>>180946671
i really with the pyromancers mask and the attendant were actually like that
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Ditto
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Which Pyro is more dadly? Is there a set that would be even more dadly? Inb4 Dadliest Catch
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>>180948149
the soot suit
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>>180948149
soot suit
wearing a sweater with a grill on your back sounds uncomfortable
>>
>>180949109
wearing a grill doesn't sound comfortable
also wearing a suit under a fire retardant suit doesn't sound comfortable either
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>>180946487
I really dont like playing as Pyro.
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>>180942323
What would you add? The loadout already serves the purpose. Adding anything else would make it look less like ocelot.
>>
i want to wear a grill
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>>180949556
that's actually a thing, but they aren't very comfortable
>>
burning is an overrated effect
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>>180946618
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>>180946487
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the manmelter is great because if a pyro walks at your team you can farm points while they all panic
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The manmelter isn't a bad weapon, its just situational. Im tired of people calling something bad just because you cant use it 24/7
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It's great, just wish the crits weren't activated automatically
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>>180952856
its not as useful as it seems in that situation, that only removes afterburn and gives you a shitload of assist points. your team is still damaged by the direct stream of flames and you are really screwing your team over because you aren't really prolonging the battle and are just standing there
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>>180953743
The situation it's viable in is incredibly narrow, it accomplishes something that the Pyro can do most of the time anyway (extinguishing), and the Pyro has more reliable means of getting crits with the flare gun.
The only thing it really has over the flare gun is the infinite ammo, and really, when have you ever thought "I could use more ammo for my flare gun"
It's a bad weapon
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All the cleaners carbine needs to be good is more accuracy. Being able to hit people from farther away means you can more safely rack up damage over time. The mini crits will remove the fall off from the weapon as well, meshing with its better accuracy.

Also let my pop the crits while reloading, jesus christ. Its impossible to use this weapon with auto reload on.
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>>180953743
it's good when there's some pyros spamming flares, you can use them to spam back or finish of people trying to escape

I love the moonman set but most of the time I run scorch shot and/or powerjack

>>180953994
explain

>>180954535
yeah but the scoreboard doesn't know that
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Manmelter is pointless to use unless you pair it with the phlog
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>>180954775
they're automatically active once you've acquired them, I would like if you could keep them stored and shoot normal shots until you want to use the crit on like a special target

like the cleaner's carbine
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>>180954592
This anon >>180954775 gets it. The flare gun requires enemies to already be on fire, while the manmelter can crit people regardless. If an enemy pyro is harassing your team with flares, the manmelter is practically a straight upgrade, allowing you to throw those flares right back.
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>>180954991
this is also true, but I run phlog 95% of the time

>>180955039
that would be a pretty good upside to the manmelter, maybe have the reload key switch between crits and regular shots
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The Manmelter

Level 30 Indivisible Particle Smasher
This weapon draws instantly and holsters instantly after landing a hit
+50% projectile speed
Does not require ammo
Projectile penetrates enemy targets
Projectile cannot be deflected
Alt-Fire: Extinguish teammates
Extinguishing teammates restores 20 health
No random critical hits
Cannot be crit boosted

This weapon will reload automatically when not active.

Being a device that flouts conventional scientific consensus that the molecules composing the human body must be arranged "just so", and not, for example, across a square-mile radius
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>>180946487
Still need a good 3rd cosmetic, but don't know which.
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>>180955780
i think an easier rebalance would be to give a player crits if they put out afterburn with their primaries too
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>>180955780
I like the penetration idea, matches other lazer weapons and could decimate a hallway of enemies

the switch speed bonuses aren't needed though

>>180956165
this also works

>>180955831
either the reindeer mask or the bundle of sticks that goes on your back
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>>180956254
decimate meaning to take away 1/10th of their health because it always deals 30 damage
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>>180957119
>cannot be crit boosted
how did I miss this, worst rework
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>>180957238
if it was whatever you thought it would be it would be undeniably unfair to fight against and would just be a much more effective righteous bison
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>>180955780
Gay.
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>>180957720
>much more effective righteous bison
sounds good where do I sign
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let the manmelter fire underwater
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>>180958817
>Implying there are any worthwile maps that feature areas where underwater fights are common
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rescue ranger doesn't cost metal
it can't teleport anymore

put it on the short circuit so engineer gets a more viable defensive option outside of the wrangler
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give engineer the pocket pistol
give all shotgun wielders the family business
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give heavy and pyro scattergun
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give everyone a rocket launcher, the game will finally be fun
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Give engineer the atomizer.
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give scout the your eternal reward
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>>180959387
>want to zap some sticks away from your gun
>pick it up instead
>die
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give me a gf
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Anyone else now legitimately worried about the future of this game since they announced the balance patch? It's like they put someone in charge of the dev team who doesn't know fuck all about the genre, tf2, or game design in general. Their justifications for changing the rescue ranger and dead ringer screams incompetency
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>>180960665
Not even remotely.
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>>180960665
>people are actually freaking out about the rescue ranger nerf.

I main engie and I see no problem with it.
It's currently one of the strongest primaries for a defense engie.

It's nerf is justified and we got off easy considering that it still takes more metal to wack it with your wrench.

Stop being a baby, pardner.
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>>180960665
What the fuck are you talking about
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>>180960665
>spy mains actually can't function without the ambassador+dead ringer
please post a rant, i want a good chuckle right now
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>>180960665
dumb animeposter
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>>180955831
wartime warmth or merc's muffler, would fit, unless you dont really care about the theme you can just use any mask
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>>180960484
sorry, i can't understand your point
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>>180961004
Ambassador nerf was kinda justified, seeing as it made spy a pseudo-sniper, but the way they did it was kinda stupid. They should've made it so that it mini-crits at long range. As they have it, there will be times where the bullet spread doesn't fuck the spy over rendering the nerf moot, and times where it does, where the spy misses a shot through no real fault of his own. Either way, hopefully now more people will start to use stock revolver more.

DR nerf was justified. Being able to essentially live forever when anywhere near metal was pretty crazy. Personally I think they should've made it so the user cannot regenerate cloak via ammo for 10 seconds after activation, but I was a stock watch purist before using the DR, so it's not the end of the world for me.

I'm hoping more to see buffs to spy's other weapons, like the enforcer, or maybe buffs to spy as a class. Spy is the worst class in tf2 right now, and nerfing two of his most powerful options and giving him nothing in return is bullshit. Also the diamondback needs to be nerfed to DDS levels.

t. 480 hours on spy
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>>180961818
haha, thank you for the rant
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spy being "weak" is like that by design
imagine if it was the strongest class in the game and everybody would just run around the map invisible until they eventually bump into each other or time runs out
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buff spy health to 150
add -25 max health to dead ringer
buff knife damage to 50
nerf backstab radius to 150°
sidestabs and other (((trickstabs))) within a 180° radius deal critical hits instead of instant kills
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Remove all classes from the game except spy
There you go, TF2 is eternally fixed.
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>Team French-tress 2
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Why did Valve kill payload race? Non-hightower maps were fun.
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Remove TF2, now TF2 is saved forever
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>>180962115
whoa i saw uncle danes video too! :)
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>>180962370
>he doesn't enjoy getting 720 degree trickstabbed 24/7
what are you some kind of faggot?
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2 hours left for those who missed the raffle:
http://tf2r.com/kcv21ya.html
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>>180964640
Happy birthday Wanderer. Hope you have many more.
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>>180965238
Thanks man, very much appreciated.
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>>180877963
>mountain lab
>good

Shitty map that only allows you to navigate through two extremely narrow choke points (that are essentially the same choke point)

I don't think I've ever had fun on this map
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>>180885898
>>180885898
>>180885898
>>180885898
>>180885898
>>180885898
pls respond
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>>180885898
>>180967197
The Quake-esque firing sound and explosion impact noise on "The Original" rocket launcher drone on for way too long and drown out almost everything else. It's impossible to determine exactly when the Soldier fired it by ear alone, or how far away he is. This makes it significantly harder to predict when you should and shouldn't travel down a choke point, and makes reflecting blind-fired projectiles as Pyro that much harder. Please fix this or give us an option to replace said sounds with those of the default rocket launcher as a clientside preference. Thank you.
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>>180885898
lagcompensation is a crutch for backstabs
countless times you are facing the spy and he still backstabs you because the ping difference makes it so yo uare backwards in his screen

also maybe remove the pain screams from self damage as soldier, in rocket jumps and stuff
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>>180896102
lol people sure do take sitting at a computer, pressing CTRL and x>5 seriously
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I played on a community server for a couple hours
Every ten minutes, there would quite literally be another bot spamming lmaobox or some gambling site links
Joined a different one a bit later
What do you know, a few minutes in another bot started spamming on that one
Joined some actual matches a few hours later
You guessed it, there were bots in those too.
Valve needs to do something about it tbqh
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>>180967087
>only allows you to navigate through two extremely narrow choke points (that are essentially the same choke point)
this is simply untrue

every point has at least one main chokepoint and a side path around it, last point has probably the biggest amount of options to attack that there are on any map of this mode that's challenged only by steel, which every smart team takes advantage of

it is flawed, but not bad at all
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>>180968798
Every A/D map is inherently bad
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every CTF map is inherently bad
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every tf2 map is inherently bad
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Now what
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>>180960665
I wish fucking sub 1,000 /v/ posters would fuck off already
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>>180969230
crying
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>>180969230
now tell me how to do it
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Anyone else stocking up on keys for the next update?

Not to open shit but for trading.
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>>180969345
I guess I spawned at the same time spawns switched?
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>>180967087
>One choke
shitter spotted

There's side paths on first and last, granted second's a shit cap, but shame on you for not rushing the advantage and capping second before red respawns
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>>180969425
Wouldn't you either be forced to go to the next spawn or just be able to stay inside the spawn anyway like any 5cp map?or is foundry THAT bad?
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>>180969747
That's how it's supposed to work. This is obviously a bug.
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You see, theres a bell curve involved with realizing the dead ringers bullshit. As a baby player, youll see it as a cheap op trick that lets them get away with whatever, not completely understanding how it works. If you play Spy, youll love it for that. As you get better, you learn more about how spies think and how to track them down, and dead ringer spies go from being a huge threat to just a nuisance. You start to justify it because of that. Finally, as you improve even more, you realize that the dr is an item that is negating your skill. It doesnt matter how well you can aim, how good your gamesense is, how fast your reflexes are, the dead ringer will simply let them walk away. That is where the true bullshit of the weapon is, and you have to put up with it as babies at the start of the bell curve are getting pounded in the butt and you cant protect them without devoting all of your time to protecting them.
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>>180967632
>countless times you are facing the spy and he still backstabs you because the ping difference makes it so yo uare backwards in his screen
and how do you propose to fix this?

>also maybe remove the pain screams from self damage as soldier, in rocket jumps and stuff
let me guess, you joined after free to play update? fuck off casual
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>>180968929
>having this shit of an opinion
I bet you like standin nerd
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just a quick reminder for you spy mains
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>>180971029
it's literally retarded lad, it somehow manages to be worse than payload
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>>180971585
enforcer is the worst because it's broken to the point of being useless
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>>180967632
are you fucking retarded
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>>180971794
ambassador shitter detected
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>>180971794
it has quicker spread recovery so it's good
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>>180967402
I actually "hear" those though

on the other hand I'm so used to stock rocket launcher sound I automatically drown it out along with background noise and I'm completely shit playing against it when the soldier isn't on my screen
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amby snipers be like
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>>180972290
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRBJRPBBBBBB
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>ctf
>stall eternally
>a/d
>if the offensive team is better its a roll. if the defensive team is better its a ten minute waiting game
>payload
>kill the team and then sit on the cart for 30 seconds doing nothing
>koth
>deathmatch over the point
>5cp
>kill the team, move the the next point, and complete the objective
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>>180971920
I have loadout for every revolver except enforcer

>>180972087
with its extremely situational viability and wow amazing 20% damage boost (which is +8hp) it's basically a straight downgrade to stock
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>>180972087
IT'S NOT QUICKER SPREAD RECOVERY
HOLY FUCK
IT HAS THE SAME AS EVERY OTHER REVOLVER
BUT IT SHOOTS SLOWER
SO IT RECOVERS IT MORE BEFORE YOU CAN SHOOT AGAIN COMPARED TO EVERYTHING BUT THE AMBY
WHICH HAS THE SAME FIRING SPEED PENALTY
STOP SPREADING YOUR HEADCANON AS FACT
I EXPLAINED THIS SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY
FUCKING
LEARN
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Pyro weapon tiers after update:
>Shit tier
>Degreaser
>Scorch Shot
>Powerjack
>Neon
>Third Degree
>Axtinguisher

>Okay tier
>Backburner
>Flare gun
>Zatoichi
>Shotgun
>Panic Attack
>SVF
>Backscratcher

>High tier
>Flamethrower
>Phlog
>Detonator
>Revolver
>Manmelter
>Homewrecker
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>>180960665
>Their justifications for changing the rescue ranger and dead ringer screams incompetency
>complaining about any and all dead ringer nerf
Git gud. Learn to use IW and CnD.
>complaining about any and all rescue ranger nerf
Git gud. If you gonna wrangle the jangle then whack it instead of tooting it.

>>180973026
>I have loadout for every revolver except enforcer
Big deal.
>with its extremely situational viability
that 20% more damage becomes 12 more damage pershot at max ramp up, it's actually quite huge when you think about it. It allows you to 2 shot a light class.
Main use for Enforcer is shotting down sapped Sentries faster and pelting Medic whenever you can come nearby. Also it ignores DDS' bullet resistance as I know it.

>>180973107
Is that supposed to be bait? Go read official wiki. Have a (You).
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>>180973107
>>180973026
>>180972087
not to mention damage boost is basically for 1 shot (ONE SHOT)
O N E S H O T
N
E
_
S
H
O
T
before switching back to being a slower firing revovler WITHOUT CRITS allowing you to shoot at targets you shouldn't take shots at in the first place

it's G A R B A G E
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>>180973661
NO IT'S NOT BAIT YOU WANKBANK
>It also takes 24% less time for bullet spread recovery, firing every shot with perfect accuracy provided the player waits at least 0.95 seconds between every shot
>it has perfect accuracy for shots fired at slower intervals
BOTH HAVE THE SAME FUCKING 20% SLOWER FIRING SPEED
BOTH ARE REVOLVERS
BOTH DON'T HAVE AN HIDDEN FUCKING STAT IN THE ITEMS.TXT FILE THAT SAYS THEIR SPREAD RECOVER IS DIFFERENT FROM ANY OTHER REVOLVER
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE WIKI ARTICLE FOR ONE HASN'T BEEN UPDATED AS WELL AS THE OTHERS BECAUSE THE WEAPON ITSELF HASN'T BEEN CHANGED IN 8 YEARS
>>180973934
Oh nobody is saying it's good, everybody knows that
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just curious, whats a good way to deal with pocket medics and also get better at the game after a long hiatus
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>>180973498
>Revolver
>Zatoichi
Are you okay?
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>>180974628
A headshot.
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>>180973107
it literally does recover like 25% faster

if you only shot the stock revolver every 900 ms it still wouldn't be as accurate
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>>180974628
Kill the medic. Even if you end up sacrificing yourself for that medic pick, the pubstomper main won't know how to handle not having one, thus affording your team an advantage. If possible, though, you should always go for a flank, since you're still better off alive, obviously.
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>>180973498
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>>180974720
pyro will be able to use those after the update according to official leaks

same with ambassador and pain train
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>>180974912
sounds good. still have to improve my aim with pipes and whatnot
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>>180974912
Juke the shit out of Pockets as a Scout
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>>180975289
Oh, if you're playing demo, you shit all over pocket pubstomp mains in the first place. Unless it's a scout.
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>>180975289
one simple trick many people dont know to make pipes easier is to walk closer towards your target
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>>180971714
there's literally nothing wrong with payload as a game mode, it just has some garbage maps
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>>180975451
i should prolly just fucking start playing demo more instead of switching classes every death, at least i get used to leading and actually hitting targets again.
thanks /tf2g/
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>>180974361
I don't think you know what spread recovery means. Both Amby and Enforcer have attack interval of 0.696s which is 20% slower. Amby has a spread recovery time where it NEVER headshots for 1.25 seconds and become inaccurate at long distances because, d'uh bullet spread. Enforcer recovers in slightly less than a second; 0.95s to be shot fully accurate again. That's their difference.
You can wait a second between shots and Enforcer always shoot accurate, if you dare to shoot Ambassador at long distances with 1s interval there's a high chance that your shots never land on the spot, headshot or not. Stop herp derping and read it throughly.
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>>180974720
>he doesn't know
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>>180975642
What I do is hit random only at the start of the match and play that class for the entire game. Most of the time I do badly, especially if I get a class outside my comfort zone, but the only way to git gud is to play.
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just popping in to let you guys know the new danger shield is even more bullshit. the tentative stats are currently;

>+25 max health
>+35% fire damage resistance on wearer
>Wearer is immune to status effects such as afterburn, bleed, Jarate & mark for death.
>+100% melee damage vulnerability on wearer
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>>180976895
>Wearer is immune to status effects such as afterburn, bleed, Jarate & mark for death.
>+100% melee damage vulnerability on wearer
ok afterburn i know about but where the fuck did you get the rest of that from?
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;)
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What do you fellas think of the new panic attack?
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>>180976895
it doesn't even have health bonus, learn to read and fuck off
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if they make the reserve shooter useless and / or don't unnerf the degreaser i'll use it over stock just for the switch speed
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>>180976895
>+25 max health
ummmmmmmmmmm what?
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>>180977783
>>180977869
nice reading comprehension, friendos. i mean it, i won't berate you for being unable to infer that things are actively changing behind the scenes. you're really good at reading your second language.
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>>180977869
dont get butt hurt if your get memed on :^)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYq0vuA4io0
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>>180976895
>even more bullshit
How so? It gives sniper a bit more survivability (+25hp, fire res) and better sniping opportunities (debuff immunity) at the cost of no active secondary and being killed in one shot by any melee weapon with a damage bonus
The biggest offender was being able to counter skill (ability to survive a quickscope) while providing a negligible downside (explosive vulnerability was countered by the extra hp)
Personally i'm fine with this incarnation, i won't be able to piss off snipers with flares as much as i was before but that's fine
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>>180976895
source?
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GIVE ME MY NEW FUCKING MANTREADS VALVE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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how do i break 200 DPM as scout
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shoot people harder
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scout can do 200 damage in like half a second lol
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lol like just click on people
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What does everyone have their mouse sensitivity set to, and what class(es) do you main?

I set mine to 12.50 and I main soldier and scout
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>>180980526
pyro demoman scout
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I don't main classes, because I like being good at the game
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>>180980075
i meant in real games
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>6s
>real games

t. bad who can't react quick enough to deal with 12v12 clusterfucks and needs a spam-free zone to function
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>>180979749
Hit more consistent shots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
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>when raffle winners don't have trade offers in their infobox

Time to wait a thousand years before they finally get my friend request.
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Valve should give Engineer a speed boost pad as a replacement for the teleporter
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>>180977375
Better than before. Not having to reload before use is a big bonus to a secondary weapon. I wish it had faster firing speed though.
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>>180981507
that was my idea
i came up with it first
t. anonymous
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>>180981432
you can give them 2 me :)
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>>180980792
who is this guy and why should I listen to him? fuck off
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>>180981507
that would be so fun, VOLVO, I KNOW YOU LURK HERE
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>>180981507
would there be multiple ones?
how exactly would they work?
can they be destroyed and if so, how much health should they have?
why a speed boost pad when a teleporter gets you there just as if not even faster than a speed pad?
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>>180982851
i would say two, but im not valve, so its not up to me
step on it and get a speed boost, like you were just whipped or something
yeh you can destroy them.
a boost pad wouldn't need an entrance and an exit, you could just slap one down. better for gamemodes where spawns change a lot.
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>>180982851
im not him but i would think there could be two, maybe aoe that buffs the players speed for something like 8 seconds after they leave the bubble. this would be great to place in flanks as it would let medics get out faster (as they could then choose to go that way instead of choke since there is speed boost there) as well as just generally flank routes being longer would improve the route. would also be great to utilize before a push in attack/defend
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDICaSDMjXY&t=2s
>everyone in the comments bitching about Dane supporting changes to make Engineer more viable for 6v6
>saying that no single other class should dethrone the Medic as the number one mandatory healer on each team
>taking his suggestions at complete face value, rather than just suggestions as to what needs changed
>people still fighting against competitive play, insisting TF2 should only be casual
Who was in the right here?
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>>180985153
>youtube comments
don't even need to read them to know that they're at fault
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>Engineer in 6s
No please and thank you. Classes that exist only to slow the game down(heavy, engineer, pyro) should stay as situational offclasses. I'm convinced that everyone who insists those classes should be "viable" don't play the mode and are just Highlander babbies.
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>>180985153
youtube comments are cancer but not every class has to be viable for 6v6
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Why doesn't 6v6 have a class limit of 1 for every class? Why are soldier and scout the exception?
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>>180985708
Because soldier is the weakest 6s class and having 2 scouts isn't nearly as cancerous as having 2 medics or 2 demos or a perma sniper.
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>>180985395
>>180985482
i know, but its hard to ignore the fact that they're TF2 players too, and that there are a lot of people against his ideas

>>180985451
tldr, most of his ideas are about making engineer more supportive, rather than defensive. things like nerfing the wrangler and rescue ranger, and in turn, giving him more tools like a dispenser backpack or speed boosters, so that he could potentially be someone worth running in place of a medic.
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>>180985708
because on 4s a demo can destroy all 4 of the other players and two scouts + a roamer is much more effective at destroying a demoman than just one of each class
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>>180986013
imo, every class should stick to his role, having more than one healer just defeats the entire purpose of medic existing, plus he wouldn't be able to ubercharge or kritz, so he would be doubly useless. a very slow aoe heal isn't worth giving up a medic for
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>>180986174
>>180986013
Also, the dispenser backpack would probably be banned in 6s for the same reason mad milk is, and no one would give up their medic for it. Maybe a scout. Mad milk is still banned, right?
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>>180986174
>>180986321
im sure they could balance it out in some way. i dont see the harm in there being other support classes worth using, and as you said, classes like heavy and engineer just serve to slow the game down. i think they should be reworked some so that they can be used mroe often, because variety is cool and fun. it seems like they're sort of testing that already, with the new GRU. it lowers heavy's max health in exchange for speed, balancing him out some stats wise. it make shim seem a bit more like a generalist.
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>>180986174
i don't think dane's problem was so much that there's only one all powerful god healer, so much as that there's only one class that will absolutely ensure victory if one team has them and the other does not. it doesn't matter how good you are at soldier or demoman, if they have a medic and you don't, you're fucked. it's less like making engineer a more viable healer would help share the healer role, and more like it would help teams lose less when they happen to not have a medic. but i'm not too sure about any of that, because yeah, it does intrude on the medic's role like the ambassador does with sniper's role. why pick medic when you can pick just as good as medic with an autoaim gun and teleporters? why pick sniper when you can pick invisible/invincible sniper with instant glitchy melee kills? it does need experimentation and discussion.
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what the fuck
are people talking about tf2
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>>180987340
I know, it's weird
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>>180987340
It's the blog post that dropped last week. Really got the noggins a joggins
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What would happen if Valve made it so that cosmetics, non-stock weapons, and more only worked in Competitive and Casual?
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>>180988347
>b& for shitposting on shitpost: the board

lol
>lol?
lol.

I can't wait to see the pyro rework. Are they finally gonna fix his bustedass flamer?
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what if the aoe healer texas man could only build a level one autoaim gun and level one teleporter/boost pad, or maybe even no sentry at all? i dont think you would need more than a level one teleporter for just 6 people. would the additional offensive support outweigh the not as good healing? what if he had some sort of Uberdrive ability?

I like the idea of a more offensive healer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYq0vuA4io0
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why not give engineer access to mediguns, and to the crusaders crossbow, and remove medic from the game?
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merge medic and pyro
merge sniper and spy
merge soldier and demo
splice the scout into close range harassment clas and medium range damage class
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=951969457
why the fuck is this tagged jungle
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>>180989885
it's vaguely tropical themed so it counts i guess
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*sits on full metal pack with l'tranger and dead ringer*
snort snort snort
nothin personeel kid
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>>180989972
but it's not. at all
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>>180989885
there's no way that taunt is getting in. it's so poorly made. like a little baby. and the name is shit too.
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>>180988784
Why the fuck would you give up the ability to build a sentry as engineer? Building sentries is his whole thing. That's way too outside of engineer's role as a defense/area denial class.
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>>180990028
it is
tribals live in jungles and thats obviously some sort of tribal dance
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>>180989885
>>180989972
>>180990028
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_tropical_rainforests
I only glanced at the page, but I'm decently sure it's hawaiian inspired.
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>>180990220
stop making excuses, it doesn't fit and you know it.
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>>180990284
>gives an explanation
>"thats not an explanation!"

classic
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>Update wasn't released on June 19, (Pyro Update 2008)
>Update wasn't released today on June 27,(Pyromania Update)


I'm starting to think the Pyro update isn't coming out at all.
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>>180990160
>he needs an autoaim gun when he has the best gun in the game as his primary
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>>180990606
both about a week from each other

july 4th my're friend
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>>180989885
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_performance#History
it originated from the aztec. they were like next door neighbors to the mayans in the jungles of mexico
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>>180990871
not an argument
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>>180990945
that's about as jungle as you can get amigo
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>>180986174
The problem with engineer is the whole turtling, defence hive thing. They need their hard defensive options restricted while support options improved to make them a more healthy class. His "identity" is what needs to be changed.
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>>180990989
not an argument
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>>180991146
but why is it not an argument
it originates from the jungle and it's submitted to the jungle theme
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>>180990871
but the update is for mayan, not aztec. either way it's poorly made.
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>>180991057
>This class shouldn't perform his class role because it doesn't work in a competitive format that's all about fast-paced gameplay because I want to play him in a fast-paced gamemode
This argument also applies to heavy.
Both classes are perfectly fine as they are,
they just aren't competitive classes, and imo they're cancerous enough on pubs that I wouldn't want to play against them in competitive because playing against neither class is fun.
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>>180991337
I do agree it's poorly made, but it still is jungle related.
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>>180991337
no the update is for jungle themed items. mayann was just a project that happened to already be in development. and even then, making a distinction between mayans and aztecs is just splitting hairs. they're both dead, who cares.
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>>180991379
I can attest to pyro and heavy being unfun to play against and fun to play as.

>go on 11 killstreak one round as heavy
>get focused down next round while i'm playing engineer
In hindsight, it was my fault for not removing my unusual
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>>180990137
>>180991337
>>180991502
how is it poorly made?
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spy has to be the single easiest class in the game
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I can't believe you retards are falling for "not an argument" baitposts.

>>180991518
Pyro is a whole different kettle of fish, because there's fucking nothing in the entire game pyro is best at. Even heavy does brainless w+m1 better. I also feel like people who want to buff heavy don't realize how fucking powerful he is on pubs. Even more so when he has a medic gf. It's just so fucking easy to mow everything down as heavy, and if your medic can actually spycheck, almost nothing can stop you except a decent sniper or a counter demo/medic pocket. But we all know pub medics don't pocket demolitions men, so they continue to rampage.
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>>180988759
>Are they finally gonna fix his bustedass flamer?
no
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>>180991780
pyro is the best at

>close range multi target damage
>uber pushing against anything that isn't a sentry
>denying ubercharges
>mitigating damage taken to self and allies

aside from that he's just a better jack of all trades than soldier with less range
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Is this bait?
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i'd appreciate if you contributed to the discussion thanks
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>better soldier
>with less range
so... worse soldier?
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better if he can get in that range
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>the magistrates mullet is a bad hat
ill be the judge of that
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>>180994339
that's a good use of it, but in general it looks very bad with most items
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>>180994339
also spy can't use the necro smasher but it'd look fine without it
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shade from froyotech was in my game
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>>180994704
oh is he supposed to be good at the game or something

i remember playing with someone who had that name and dominating him twice in a row
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[B]4nny from [B]royotech was in my [B]ame
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>>180994847
He's a medic main.
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Pyro is in a bad state right now. I only see three playstyles with anyone playing him

>crit meme combos only
>airblast spam to deny useful classes from doing ANYTHING
>holding down m1 and moving mouse side the side hoping to catch someone on fire
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TF2 is in a bad state right now. I see one poster who forgot about the greatness of the Holy Detonator and forgot about the other playstyle. Det jumping across the map and flanking the fuck out of dudes
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>>180995031
there's also
>engineer babysitter to prevent explosive classes from spamming buildings, prevent spies from sapping, remove sappers in case the engineer actually does die, and denying uber pushes
it's literally the only thing pyro excels in
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if only it was just the eye fruit, these two junk hats might fit together
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>>180994913
HAHAHA
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pyro should have a halloween restriction
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>>180995293
I wanted to forget that thing existed.
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POST LOADOUTS NOOOOOOW
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It's been a while since I played TF2.

How's it doing nowadays? Did overwatch fuck it over?
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no but it made people a lot dumber
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Blizzard didn't screw Valve

Valve screwed Valve
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>>180995847
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Why are so many unusual players terrible at the game?
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>>180996006
Played overwatch, I have a silver border in it.

It made me realize how much more fun TF2.
It also made me realize that it's meta-dependent, linear, garbage that can't keep itself afloat with skins.

The team working on tf2 has shown signs of life, but it's been a while since the last update.
Let's hope they don't fuck it up.
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>>180995847
The cosmetics are the ones that give mercs armbands.
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>>180996598
because you expect too much from people wanting to put money into something important to them
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>>180995847
finally got rid of generic chapeau spy and got a completely different chapeau spy
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>>180996598
Some people just like to look like their idea of cool, some people just play this game to play the economy. Inventory worth has no correlation with in game skill.
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>>180996707
>wanting to put money into something important to them
nice spin on addiction
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>>180996742
Not a bad spy. I'd find something other than the spats though
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>>180995847
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>>180997503
Not him, but as a person who enjoys the customization in TF2, I can say that it's just about looking good on your online persona.

It's kinda like how in mmorpgs people want to look good with loot. It's very common for a game that does provide customization to have people who do spend a lot of money just for the cosmetic aspects alone.

Personally, I believe that there's a limit to that in tf2 when the artstyle gets blurred between realistically comical and just egregious.

I mean, whenever I see a pink and lime, banana-wearing, unusual toting mess of a player model. That's where I would probably draw the line since these characters wouldn't dress so outrageously flamboyant. Thus ruining the established art style TF2 is known for.
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>>180998228
if you are willing to spend money on decorating a virtual character it stops being an interest and becomes an addiction because it negatively effects you. the difference between mmos or earlier games with cosmetic options such as ratchet and clank up your arsenal is that you don't spend real life money and it is earned which is fun. the only incentive to spend real money on cosmetics is addiction because otherwise it wouldn't matter enough to you to spend money on it
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give demo a grenade rifle
give soldier an explosive shotgun
give pyro a dragonsbreath shotgun
give heavy a grenade minigun
give spy a dart gun
give scout a nailgun
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>>180995847
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>>180998715
>You either dislike something, or are addicted to it. There is zero middle ground
Fuck off.
People spend money on what they want to spend money on.
When it becomes an addiction is if they spend all their in it because they feel they need to, not because they want to.
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>dart gun
time to pull out my autism. ive been thinking of ways to make spy more supportive as a support class. here's three different flavors of dart gun. all dart guns would have slower reloads, slower firing speeds, and do a lot less damage compared to revolvers. in exchange, they put debuffs on enemies. the debuff wears off over time, and the gun can not be fired again until the debuff wears off. could potentially not leave a hit marker, for added sneakiness.

Tranq Gun - A single shot pistol that applies a slowing effect. Movement impairing effects suck, and there's already plenty of weapons that do that, so this could slow things like firing speed or reload speed. Good for neutering that star player on the enemy team.

Tracer Round - Allows everyone to see players through walls. Lets your team take out high priority targets easier. The enemy team would also be able to see their teammate through walls, so as to make it apparent their teammate is traced, but not immediately.

Poison Dart Gun - Applies a bleed-like effect. Something not a sucky as bleed.
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>>180995847
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whoops, i spilled the rest, haha

New PDAs: Because why bother with the sapper when you could just play Demo?

EMP - A tossable EMP grenade that doesn't disable a sentry, but makes its turn radius slower. Makes it easier for teammates to peek on it and clean it up, without risking the Spy's life so much.

Briefcase - The idea of a class being able to pick up ammo and health packs has been around for a while, most commonly as an ability for the Scout or Heavy. I think the Spy would be well suited for it. Sneak to the enemy side, steal their stuff, and deliver it to your team. Not a sapper in the slightest, because the enemy team wont always have an Engineer. Fill that slot with something useful instead.
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>>180999154
i never said that, i said if you value ingame pixels enough to similarly toss money into a fire you are addicted because there is no reason to do so otherwise.
>i like game
>i play game
>i can buy cosmetics but it isn't necessary to enjoy the game so wont
^normal behavior, i bet the gamblecrates give you an edge
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>>180998715
>>180999661
everything is meaningless, you're gonna die eventually, might as well buy a nice trinket for something you've poured 2,000 hours into.

now that i actually say that number, maybe it is an addiction.
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>>180999343
all good but poison should be strong
what about a sapper dart gun, sort of like in bioshock?
you can shoot a building to reduce its effectiveness for x seconds
sentries turn slower and fire slower
dispensers dont give metal and give half the health
teleporters have their recharge doubled
>>180999651
briefcase sounds retarded because the only thing you can pick up is ammo, and ammo is a non-issue to a competent red team with an engineer
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>>180998715
So you're saying people who collect Pokemon cards are addicts?
I would say, it's similar to that in a way. It's just a hobby for them, and with some hobbies, money is a factor.

I understand your point that it can be viewed as negative, and sometimes that is the case. However, most of the time it's just a way to spend your time in a game of dress up.
There's always exceptions, while I don't really care what people pour their money into, because that isn't my business. If they want to spent money into something they (hopefully) enjoy, then so be it.
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>>180999661
True, you aren't saying "you either dislike or are addicted".
I rescind that accusation.
But not everyone has the mentality of "if I don't HAVE to spend money I won't".
A lot of people have enough spare money they are willing to put forward to buying cosmetic goods even if you aren't.
As I said it becomes addiction when you can't not do it, not when you do.
Just spending money on a game doesn't make you addict.
Bad at handling money maybe, but not addicted.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9HUyHmLFzA
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>>180999870
why would you be limited to ammo for the breifcase?
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>>180999487
That collage hurts my eyes, morgan.
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>>181000112
what else can you possibly pick up? weapons? healthpacks that dont exist?
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new spy sapper slot item

the 2fort trickeroo
level 10 decoy

15 second activation time, can't be activated while cloaked
while active, it simulates holding the enemy team's intelligence (this would override announcer callouts/hud directions if the actual intelligence is picked up)
can't cloak while active
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>>181000305
where did all the healthpacks go?
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>>181000412
do you actually mean healthpacks that respawn?
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thius is true art
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYq0vuA4io0
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>>180999790
pretty worthless point of view

>>180999987
the difference between pokemon cards and hats is that they have to buy the cards to play the game associated with it whereas players buying hats already have the game. however i do think people who buy blindbags are addicts and i don't agree with the actual concept of card games that revolve around them and "collecting" based on randomization (as opposed to standard decks like uno or 52s) which is why i would recommend instead they play the digital games which don't use microtransactions

>>181000027
>As I said it becomes addiction when you can't not do it, not when you do
i fully agree but i don't think you do. you don't have to buy hats so there is no reason to. therefore when have the choice to, and you actually think whether or not you should weighing your options understanding what you get for what you give (which is the real difference between an addict and a nonaddict), rationally you would decide not to because there is no reason to. however the two groups (and only) are gamblers and impulse buyers because they do not actually think rationally. collectors in general are addicts not "hobbiests", there is no reason to own them but people buy them anyways because they cannot live without spending money on them for minute satisfaction
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>>181001015
People just like to look good in games, my man.
I can't really explain it any more than I already have.

Having a sense of worth through materialistic possessions isn't a hard concept to grasp. It's sorta like how in reality people buy expensive cars and never actually drive them. It's like a status symbol, only difference is that it's in a virtual environment.

The game itself is irrelevant to the cosmetics, yes. I do agree on that, you don't need flashy hats to enjoy the game. However for some people, there's an underlying game that involves cosmetics, that they deemed to be worth spending money on.
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>>181001015
>i fully agree but i don't think you do. you don't have to buy hats so there is no reason to.
So your argument is that because there is not a measurable, logical, and objectively apparent benefit to doing something there is no point to doing it?
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>>180995847
Shut up, I know some are missing
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is soldier the easiest class?
all you have to do is aim for the floor

next is pyro, but it's only good against bad players and it's close combat
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>>181001015
reasons to own a nice hat
>it looks nice
>other people can see your hat and how nice it looks
>it allows you to stand out from other players
>you get to support the company who provided you this fantastic game for free

reasons not to own a nice hat
>you can spend the money on other things
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>>181002620
also
>medics up your butt guaranteed
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>>181002594
soldier has a low skill floor, but also a high skill ceiling. easy to learn, hard to master.
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Reminder that playing video games is an addiction preventing you from doing more practical things.
Reminder that if you are eating more than plain rice you are being frivolous and are addicted to food.
Reminder that internet is not needed for basic living, and is an addiction of this new generation.
Reminder that the arts are meaningless talents that only serve to act as minute satisfactions.
Reminder that if you haven't cured cancer yet, then you are a waste of a life. If you have cured cancer, move onto aids.
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>>181003143
that's all correct though in a really cynical and nihilistic way
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>>181002694
>before unusual
>medics very rarely heal me
>after unusuals
>people go med just to pocket me
>still get shouted at when scout gets the pick on them
There's no winning
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whats the most /artstyle/ unusual that you can think of?

im thinking i should probably get a stormy storm stove pipe because it looks great and fits the artstyle and its for demo but i dont have keys
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>>181003616
>>181002694
i think you guys overestimate how much people care about that. if i see a heavy or demoman doing well and need support i will go med despite not knowing if they are wearing cosmetics or not
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>>181003143
>comparing buying virtual cosmetics (ie hoarding) is comparable to eating a nutritional meal or using an information hub or any of that
addict
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>>181003143
Video games give a framework for understanding complex human interaction.
Rice alone does not form a complete protein.
A Library of Alexandria at your feet and you would ignore it?
When all manual labor is automated, what purpose will humans serve? Art.
All of humanity is a waste of life, I can agree with that.
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>>181003897

Most /artstyle/ I can think of I guess would be Lucky Shot with Burning Flames, smoke would fit as well but it just manages to luck ugly every time.
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>>181004352
That's different, anon, you're not a summer child fresh out of school downloading all the free games you can get your hands on.
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does jumping unnecessarily mean you're good at the game

i see it often with spies
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>>180995031
Everyone blames the flames particles, which although shit and need fixing, aren't the root of the problem.
Even if the flame particles work to the extent that everyone is happy with them, does the pyro's niche expand or change at all? What is afterburn by itself supposed to accomplish against a team with a healer?
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>>181004792
>implying they aren't going to switch naturally just to try every class out and naturally go toward the person actually doing work
>implying anyone actually wants a medic who will play for a minute then switch as soon as he dies or even before it
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>>181004943

>What is afterburn by itself supposed to accomplish against a team with a healer?

Teaching the Pyro to focus on the medic first, the real question would be what is afterburn by itself supposed to accomplish in a map with water.
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>>181003143
The internet is being used to cure cancer and aids, you faux-intellectual child.
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>>181005069
Forcing people to jump in water.
Unfortunately, 9 times out of 10, the map is designed so that getting OUT of the water is no big deal and requires no real sacrifice of positioning.

It's not a real flashy purpose.
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to be honest I kind of want pyro to have a bit more focus on hitting multiple enemies at once with his piercing flames because thats one of the few things he has that the others don't

but i cant think of a good way of implementing it
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>>181004643
I own a burning lucky shot and I can confirm it looks fucking sick. My favorite soldier unusual I have ever owned.
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hello?
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>>181004943
doesn't it reduce healing?
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>>181006159
what about something designed to deny a larger area and/or deal more damage to a larger group of people
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Does anyone use the Detonator? Holy heck the lag.
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>>181006613
the problem is doing that without requiring less aim on the pyro's part and preferably something that can be applied to the stock flamethrower instead of balancing by unlock

all i can think of off the top of my head is burning enemies being used as nodes to boost flame range/power
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>>181007479
No lag on my end when I use it.

You just gotta get a feel for when to detonate the flare, and you'll start burning cartloads of people.
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What I really want for the Pyro Update is team-colored flames.

Is it so much ask for?

pic not related
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>>181007479
i use it. i don't get kills with it too often, but the utility of flare jumps is useful for flanking and positioning.
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>>181007656
>>
>ÃœberCharge grants 100% min-crit chance and heals yourself
>+100% ÃœberCharge rate
>Only builds ÃœberCharge while healing a target with less than maximum health.
>Every kill by patient while ÃœberCharge is active increases charge duration by 2 seconds.
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Pubstomping with my HEAVY dom, the medigun.
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>>181008156
small things like that could really improve the game

REALLY want them to fix the bug that the Wrap Assassin has, where it'll break on random invisible entities. Makes me regret getting a pro ks strange one.

that and being able to fire while jumping with the classic
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>>180968929
This, defending on last point isn't fun, attacking isn't either. Might as-well just play 5v5 because then the red team has an incentive to win.
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>>180969230
what map is this agani?
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i played with myself
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>>181009609
>>Every kill by patient while ÃœberCharge is active increases charge duration by 2 seconds.
>pocket a demo, soldier, heavy, or pyro
>catch enemy off guard by flanking them then ubering
>TEAM WIPE, YOU KILLED THEM ALL!
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How to increase the size of damage output numbers?
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>>181011624
you draw them on with sharpie
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hmmmmm yes quite epic m'friend
*pottis*
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>reinstalled tf2 to fuck around
>notice all of my achievement-gained weapons are gone, probably sold them, but want some of them back

is it possible to use steam achievement manager to re-lock the weapon milestones and get them again?
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>>181012530
Nope, and I'm pretty sure you'd get b& for dicking around with a VAC game's achievements

H*ck, the best weapons are stock anyway.
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>>181012939
everyone says that but stock weapons don't have the same effects as the axtinguisher or cloak and dagger, i want to mess with phlogiston pyro and you're eternal reward spy
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>>181013508
i recommend just playing for a bit and collect weapons. if they aren't what you want then just go to scrap.tf or whereever and trade weapon for weapon. thats what i did at least, you can get just about every single weapon in the game with one refined
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>Damage recieved charges 'Swan song' meter
>Once full, pressing secondary fire activates Swan song effect for 12 seconds and instantly switches to your medigun without deploy time
>While under the effect of Swan Song, your movement speed is increased by 20% and 100% of healing done applies to yourself. You are unable to switch weapon.
>When swan song ends your health will be reduced to 25% of your maximum HP.
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>>181012530
I thought achievement weapons were untradeable
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I just got back into the game after a year and why is the Axtinguisher dogshit now
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why are spies pyro-proof now
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>>181013949
basically what happened is that airblast is bullshit but instead of doing anything about airblast itself to discourage stunlock combo pyros, they just put the axtinguisher in the fucking dirt twice.
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>>181013947
so did i, but literally every single one that i already had the achievements for were gone, and i have never cheated on TF2 so i'm not sure where they all went. my assumption was that they weren't untradable and i sold them for steambux years ago
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I wasn't around a week ago for the balance notes posted on the TF2 blog. Tell me, how salty were the spies?
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>>181014323
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>>181014323
stabby threatened to switch to overwatch
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>>181014323
stabby threatened to quit, lots of reddit spies were upset, even a few here got riled up. it was kind of beautiful to watch.
i still think the ambassador needs to be balanced in such a way that isn't based on random chance.
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>On hit: Fully accurate for 1 second.
>On kill: Restores 2 Loaded ammo
>No random critical hits
>Cloak does not regenerate by itself over time
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>>181014517
>not usable with dead nigger
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>>181014517
>fov_desired_30
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>>181014432
I hope he makes a good sombra main.
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>try to use scrap,tf to trade some drops i don't want for things i do want
>hurr you need to activate steam mobile authenticator
>hurr you can't use steam market either unless you make a purchase on the steam store despite owning over 200 games, most of those purchased from steam

well fuck everything
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>>181014432
>>181014475
Stabby is a bitch though who is severely overrated. His entire following is 10 to 16 year olds who think spy is the best class in the game
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spy is the best class in the game though
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>>181016336
that's why teams with 4 spies always win and teams with 4 medics always lose right
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>>181006328
get fucked roster rider
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>>181016426
that's not what I meant

spy may be weak (or the weakest) but gameplay wise it's clearly the best class in TF2
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>>181015512
>severely overrated
At what?

>his entire following
Now this is just the case for everything everywhere. Any youtuber or meme personality. I can assure you this thread included.
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>>181016665
>at what?
at being good at the game
also tagg has noncancer followers, they're all fags, myself included
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>>181016769
>noncancer
>they're all fags
You talk like a teenager. Put some effort into your posts already.

>he's overrated at being good at the game
He's first place so I think he has more credit to say about the game than you.
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>>181016769
>tagg
literally who
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>>181016898
>being this fucking new
i want gun mettle shits to leave
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>>181016940
I have played since 2007, quit around engineer update and started playing again in january this year but ok
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>>181017128
sure you did faggot
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>>181017185
>>181016940
4chan is an adult site, if you're not over that age of 13 I really would advice you to leave as this place isn't for the youngest of eyes. Be honest with me. How old are you?
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>>181017347
>gets told
>F-FUCK OFF UNDERAGE
lmao
I'm older than commander keen
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>>181017560
>Be honest with me. How old are you?
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>>181017621
who are you quoting?
>>
Amby fix:
>still fully accurate at first shot
>recovery time is slightly longer
>Spy can't read enemy health
>slower deploy time
Let's get this right, Valve wants to nerf Amby because in comp game, long ranged headshots on enemy Sniper is overpowered and forces him to use Razorback at ALL costs. If Razorback doesn't block overheal but allows it to decay for a very rapid rate (without a Medibeam clogged up Sniper's arse), Ambassador don't have to suffer such effective distance nerf.
If recovery time is nerfed to 1.3-1.4 seconds span from 1.25 seconds and also given slower deploy that will give enough time for Sniper to retaliate. Also Spy can never tell if it's worth taking a shot with Amby or not when he can't read the health of enemies, and at the time he wanted to draw his Amby (if he didn't by now) target may have moved as well.
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>>181017654
read >>>181017347
So it's clear you're not even reading comments while continuing to post like a teen. Great job.
>>
>>181017673
>Valve wants to nerf Amby because in comp game
It's not like teammates can call out health left on the players or something...
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>>181017820
not even him
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>>181017919
Then don't respond. You're not contributing
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>>181017943
and you are?
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>>181017673
>Let's get this right, Valve wants to nerf Amby because in comp game, long ranged headshots on enemy Sniper is overpowered and forces him to use Razorback at ALL costs.
more like the ambassador allows the close range spy to be effective at long range sniper territory for no real downside while being able to effectively, without team communication, figure out which targets are at low enough health to kill, get into advantageous positions to snipe from with no risk at all, or to escape from being caught out with no risk at all, all of which sniper, the actual only effective long range class in the game, is incapable of unless the enemy team is comprised of 6 clones of ray charles. it's the range at which the spy is effective being the problem, not the whole razorback thing or even countersniping with the ambassador. spy is a close range class, other classes in this game are only effective at close range but spies are the only ones complaining when the incredibly effective weapon that everyone uses and breaks that trend is getting a minor nerf.
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>>181018015
Not an argument. You both sound like the same teenaged person though. Good job.
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>>181018093
>Not an argument
you didn't present any arguments either, all you did was sperging out like a retard because someone doubted you
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How do we fix the custom tf2 map community?
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This number is now your penis size in millimeters. How fucked are you?
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>>181018191
>but you're a retard
Not an argument mr underage.
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>>181018284
see >>181018093
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>>181018327
If you're not going to respond don't hit reply.
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>>181018218
>Playing FPS with a trackpad
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>>181018218
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>>181018353
>don't hit reply.
this isn't reddit newfriend
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>>181018415
that's about my actual penis size
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>>181018486
?
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>>181018402
what's a trackpad
>>
>>181018486
4chan and reddit are basically the same thing and they're visited by the same people nowadays
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>>181018218
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>>181018218
what program is this?
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>>181019564
http://www.notalent.org/sensitivity/sensitivity.htm
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my fragger has been in production for almost a month and they haven't given me a preview of her yet

no yiff ;(
>>
weapon drops reset on thursdays

major TF2 updates usually happen on thursdays

we've never waited more than 7 months for the next TF2 update

last 2 summer updates were released on first thursdays of july each (Gun Mettle - July 2, 2015 and Meet Your Match - July 7, 2016) and both after 7 months since preceding updates

Jungle Update confirmed date: July 6
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>>181018218
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>>181020850
LITTLE
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>>181020779
that's my dog's birthday

my dog is pyro confirmed
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>>181020995
Gives me even more of a reason to frag,,,,,,,,,,,,
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>>181020779
you think we'll get any new maps? it's been forever.
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>>181021580
valve has been working on a jungle map that will definitely be released
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>>181021935
I mean, none of that gimmicky shit. Valve has only been releasing gimmick shit.
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>>181020850
>since 2017
you are like little baby
>>
What do you guys put on your m4 and m5 buttons?
>>
Medic binds

m4 is C, 5. Or whatever which one the Positive voice lines are
m5 is the uber call in chat + pop
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>>181022231
viewmodel toggle and action slot/general use impulse
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>>181022231
i have a 15 dollar best buy mouse. i don't have m4 and m5 buttons.
>>
pyro update

>removed soldier class from the game
>moved all rocket launchers to heavy as primary weapons. heavy does not have innate self damage resistance which balances out his increased health over soldier.
>moved all banners to medic class as medigun replacements and reduced the damage needed to fill them by 50%
>moved gunboats to demoman (primary)
>moved mantreads to pyro (secondary), demoman (primary) & medic (primary)
>moved righteous bison to pyro (secondary) and demoman (primary)
>moved pain train, equalizer, escape plan & half zatoichi to pyro
>moved disciplinary action to pyro and demoman
>added incendiary cannon to pyro as a slot4 item
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>>181022524
>viewmodel toggle
Is there a script for this?
>>
>>181022231
m4 is a bind to insult the enemy team, m5 is an insult directed at my team.
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>>181022165
I didn't need it before Hiroshimoot blocked my ip range for some strange unknown reason
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>>181022951
Hiro-chan probably (and rightly so) thought you were a fag.
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>>181022892
bind "YOUR KEY" "viewtoggle"
alias "viewtoggle" "viewoff"
alias "viewon" "r_drawviewmodel 1; alias "viewtoggle" "viewoff""
alias "viewoff" "r_drawviewmodel 0; alias "viewtoggle" "viewon""
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>>181022892
bind "MOUSE5" "incrementvar r_drawviewmodel 0 1 1"
>>181023118
You should browse developer.valvesoftware.com sometimes, so many nifty tricks that the tf2 wiki doesn't have
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>>181023208
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>>181023208
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bindtoggle "mouse5" r_drawviewmodel
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>>181023592
>>181023592
>>181023592
Sorry
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>>181006328
Heckin BUY IT and see if its tradeable.
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