/civ4xg/ - Stellaris, Endless, Civilization and 4X Games General

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First for Horatio Sauce

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>>180848620
first for nested egg simulated universes

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>>180848786
Second for best ass in the galaxy.

>>180848620
>removing the tags
Congrats, OP, you manage to be literally worse than spiderbro.

Remember to bully your local Riftborn

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>>180848853
>those thighs

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>>180849334
The virtuals may have been major dicks that created some of the most horrifying anti-bio weaponry known to all existence, but they had grade-a taste.
Just look at that pose.

>Celestial Elf Empress is soon 200 years old
>Crown Prince Darthir hasn't plotted to kill her with non-existant ck2 mechanics

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>>180849582
Can you even fuck those suits ? Does the dust inside rub your dick to the heavens ? Does it then penetrate your urethra to make you feel the most potent, endless orgasm ?

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>>180848853
>>180849334
Vodyani are not for lewd!

Is the AI supposed to be retarded in stellaris? I've been kiting this xeno scum's entire fleet with two troop transports entering his territory from two different sides at regular intervals while rebuilding my own fleet to whack him. The retard doesn't seem to have any notion of splitting his ships into groups. I managed to even occupy some of his planets with my non-fleet while all his forces were in the other part of his domain. Did I accidentally pick easy or is this a feature of xeno intelligence?

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>>180849912
>fuck a vodyani
>absorb dust through dick
>become superhuman afterwards

I see no downsides to this.

>>180849912
If I recall correctly the virtuals themselves, before they went all warfare-murder type, spent a lot of their time seeking higher sensations (not unlike the Eldar).
So if the Vodyani used their designs, their suits probably are well outfitted for more carnal undertakings.
And if they read enough of the virtual texts to understand their ideologies, then they're probably more than happy to use said suits for such purposes, since it is what they would have done.

>>180850008
>Is the AI supposed to be retarded in stellaris?
Yes, Stellaris AI is utterly brain-dead.
>Did I accidentally pick easy
Difficulty doesn't matter, the AI will never get any smarter than it is now.

>playing the star trek mod
>start as humans because it's my first game
>in only a few years a superweapon shows up and destroys earth

What the fuck

>>180850536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8zsdIQe9UQ&ab_channel=locke896

>>180850252
But what if only your dick got affected by it?
Or worse, your dick became superhuman enough to take over your body?

>these damage values on the Arc Emitter
It's probably shit, but my inner gambler just wants hundreds of battleships with that thing on it.

>>180850573

Is this Enterprise? That's some seriously bad CGI.

Hello /civ4xg/, what's the funnest culture civ to play in Civ V?

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>>180850259
>>180849976
>>180849582
>>180849334
>>180850632


Please masturbate before posting.Thank you.

>>180850838
But I did anon.

What's the big deal with forest hills near rivers?

>>180850783
Either Brazil or Persia desu.

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>>180850259
Interesting...

>>180851435
thanks for the tips, been playing Arabia recently but wanted a breath of fresh air.

>>180848620
goddamit Paradox i just want to play, why the fuck do you need 100% connection to the steam cloud.

>>180850637
It's got range, but I have a feeling its kinetic counterpart is better. Megacannon, was it? Mega something anyway.

>>180852075
Cuz what if you cheat on your achievements anon we need to make sure ur spending time unlocking ur achievements so u feel good about them.

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Any tips on how to prevent a rebellion?

>>180852947
>1498436440059
Prevent local rebellions, global one will go away.

>>180852947
>70%
>Mutinous

What?

>>180852947
>70% happiness
>mutinous
nani the fuck

>>180853140
EXACTLY

I have no idea what to do about this.

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>>180852947
Blow up the planet.

>>180853048
What happens if a global rebellion goes through?

>>180853520
Anarchy.

>>180853520
Government changes, I might lose my religion law, then everything is fucked because I intentionally didn't do any happiness buildings.

>>180853612
>>180853617
I have never had more than 16-ish colonies so I have no idea what the rules are there, why people would rebel at 70% happiness, or what the mechanics around that are like at all.

How do you even get a Conquest victory?

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>>180854040
Conquest I assume is the "colonize 50% of the galaxy" sort of deal. In that case, you just gotta grab a shitton of approval upgrades up to and including colony level approvals.
I always found it weird because in an attempt to take over every capital system I accidentally win via conquest instead because I take a shitton of systems leading up to their capitals.

Also, rate my start.

>>180854040
>why people would rebel at 70% happiness
I have no idea, this whole things looks like a bug to me.
>what the mechanics around that are like at all
There are happiness thresholds around which colony throws a hissyfit. You can bribe them with lux or supress with manpower. In case of Rel law I recommend supression.

Have you changed laws TO 70% always happy law recently? Because rebellion doesn't always go away due to happiness before you hit end turn. And it may be even possible to that you will have to put them down manually.
>How do you even get a Conquest victory?
Usually you either have high enough happines or don't have mutinies at 70 happines.

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>>180854303
I've seen worse, but that's pretty bad.

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>>180849329
Can't be bullied if you're the bully. I need help tho, anarchy has been rampant and now I have rebellious ships everywhere. Hadn't got a revolution since pre access, how do I stop it ?

>>180855254
>how do I stop it
Surrender.

>>180855254
Sounds like your own people are bullying you.

>>180855254
>how do I stop it ?
In short? you fucking don't.

In theory you can build enough approval building s to fix it, but given your size I suspect you can't.

>>180855254
You overexpanded way too much.

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>decide to play peaceful Vodyani
>going for a science victory
>Riftborn have been nice and friendly all game
>they are now spamming me with alliance requests
>can just finish the research of the 4th tech and win
>accept alliance request instead and give them all the tech possible so that they focus on research and get two techs themselves because they are great and loyal allies that are always really helpful and panic at the sight on an enemy ship going into your territory

I am now so autistic I feel bad for abandoning AI that is nice to me. How much lower can I go?

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>>180855336
>>180855405
>>180855516
Kek I guess I'm gonna raze some planets then. Those Vodyani tick me off, tho. They keep shitting arks despite having all of them destroyed one after another

>>180855717
Trying to get the "destroy everyone" trophy, but I guess Vodyani is better at that

>>180855765
One of the traits of an actual autist is an inability to feel empathy for anything.
The very fact that you feel bad for something or someone, even fictional, means that you are by definition not on the spectrum, at least in almost every case.

Plus who wouldn't feel sympathetic towards an ally that's been helpful towards you the entire game?
Unless they're Sophons of course.

>>180855765
AS LONG AS THOSE 2 TECHS DONT LET THEM WIN ANON its ok

>>180850252
>become superhuman
More likely slowly turn into dust and have to accept the cloth or die
Why else do you think they would make their suits look hot

>>180855836
Well, every time you destroy an Ark the required essence for the next ark gets lowered by 500 essence.
And depending on their income they really can just shit those things out.

>>180856317
>Accept the cloth.
>Get to fuck vodyani chicks for all eternity.
>Maybe even find a qt to love and marry.
I still don't see the problem.

>>180856385
Have you ever had a normal relationship?

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>>180856930
>Have you ever had a normal relationship?
Anon, I post on 4chan. What the hell do you think.

Any word of a fix to both missiles and hyperspace?

Stellaris is that close to be free of issues. If they fix those, civ's and ES's be damned. They will be shit /v/ memes.

>>180858454
>Stellaris is that close to be free of issues.
Wut?

You mean they made it so that there is more than one single playstyle that works at all?

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>>180858454
>Stellaris is that close to be free of issues

>>180858454
>Stellaris is that close to be free of issues.
They made combat actually be more than one button?

>>180856385
I never said it was a problem

>>180858878
True, true.

>>180858619

Already works that way. You cant make an optimal faction for conquest that is ideal for passive expansion. Same applies to diplomacy or building tall.

Too many choices, too many variables, too much chaos for randomness (every game is different) and thats the beauty of it.

>ES2 fags and their premade/slightly altered shit turned based factions with cinematic battles
>lel

>>180858454
>Stellaris is that close to be free of issues
Yeaah. Right.

>>180859058

>only two problems/broken modules left
>AI uprising also receiving changes
>soon...

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HAK HAK HAK

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>>180859220
>only two problems

>>180859016
Are you serious? At least in es2 you make decisions in a fight. Stellaris is just one blob against another. You have literally 0 control or input.

>>180859350

Neither in ES2. You pick movements before the battle. In stellaris you can at least attempt to trap with snare stations. Also more weaponry choices and modules

>tfw fleet formations before the clash are actually missing
>one more thing to go, although minor
>make it 3

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>>180858454
>Stellaris is that close to be free of issues. If they fix those, civ's and ES's be damned.

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>all these stellaris fleetblob fags thinking ES2 players even care about tactical battles

>>180859824

The day ES has Ghotic Armada mechanics for combat, we all murder Wiz in this forum. Meanwhile...

>>180859016
>Stellaris anon calling ES2 combat shitty.
If this isn't the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what to call it.

>>180859824
I'm not a fan of how ES2 handles combat, but its still better than Stellaris albeit only a small amount so.
At least ES2 has enough other features to keep it interesting whereas Stellaris doesn't even have that.

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>>180859925
>microcontroling 30+ ships Gothic armada style
Pls no

Friend of mine gifted me Stellaris because Steam sale. Does anyone know if I can pirate its DLC and just stick it in a folder and still run it legit like every other PDX game?

>>180860213
>Does anyone know if I can pirate its DLC and just stick it in a folder and still run it legit like every other PDX game?
Yep.

>>180860110

>total war in space?

Yes pls. Its a must do.

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>>180859925
>Ghotic Armada mechanics for combat
How about no. 4X are not meant to have combat that requires tens of minutes of active input per battle.

>>180860369

Anon. If it follows the total war philosophy you still have the option of auto resolve.

>>180860110
If we're talking alternatives to ES2 combat, I think the way SoSE handled it would be more ideal.
Not as micromanagement oriented as gothic, but still intuitive enough to make things interesting.
Plus since movement is relatively the same as it is now you'd still be able to use autoresolve for similar results.

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>>180860450
That would be tolerable.

>>180860258
Good. Danke anon.
>>180860369
I agree. If I want epic battles I play TW and Battlefleet Gothic. Warfare in the game is on a macro level of strategy instead of micro, which allows you more fleets and fighting accross the entire galaxy if it comes to it.
>>180860450
>auto resolve
Maybe, but auto resolving always comes with issues. After autoresolving some battles in TW and EL before playing the battles out normally micromanaging and seeing just how much I can salvage I came to loathe autoresolve.

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Please do not bully the Riftborn.

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>>180855254
Alright, managed to calm down the situation a bit by mass deporting people out of their own planets and letting them die in space, but those pacifists who somehow managed to get in power need to go

Has anybody done Ship Bound affinity + Extreme Foremen yet?

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UE or Riftborn, anons?
I can't decide which one I want for my next playthrough.

>>180860976
so fallen empire that forces refugees welcome?

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>>180861025
Please bully the Riftborn.

>>180860976
Is this a Hive Mind Synthetic FE?

>>180859234
how do i force these guys to show up?
I need to fight the swarm

>>180860264
No, I'm pretty fond of Gothic armada, but Es/stellaris is more like emperor simulator rather than admiral one. It just won't feet.
>>180860468
This might be good, but SoSE was more about being space RTS with large scale battles. I think of something like Empire at War with the possibility of aiming for specific modules.

>>180854303
Murder bugs peace trees then slug trees

>open up FAF to see what the fuss is all about
>look at replays to see how the meta has changed
>watch a high ranked player ghetto gunship someone to death

war never changes huh

>>180862735
>not dropping Tsars on someone's CU
Faggots

>>180862316
>I think of something like Empire at War with the possibility of aiming for specific modules.
ES2 combat can be improved by adding more meaningful choices to the pre-battle planning phase.

>>180862554
I am trees. I am sandwiched between UE and Cravers with nowhere else to expand and the way vineships work I can't slip past them both and settling elsewhere.

>>180863823
make friends and then vine past them?

>>180864098
>befriend Cravers
El oh el.
UE are oddly receptive of peace however. Probably because we are both right next to the fucking Cravers.

>>180864273
i mean, obviously not with the cravers
even though they are a species of peace

>>180864640
Well Cravers are the ones roadblocking the two of us from the rest of the constellation. I just gave up as it will take forever to get tech and ships to invade them while they are free to colonize wherever the fuck they want.

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>>180861772
so that you can deplete all planets at once?
It does look more fun to depart the depleted planet with ark, and not at all op when combined with being ecologists :^)

>>180858454
hypermemes is fine
missile probably need a fix, but didn't anon in a few threads ago show that missiles beat other stuff in a lot of scenarios despite potential overkill damage?

>>180865453
so it works, huh

that's neat desu

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They tried to bully me. I bullied their mom, their wife and their children, and then their entire fucking planets

bamp

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here's my meme fleet, I know it's not just cruisers with large kinetic artillery and medium plasma cannons

>>180871536
why are stellaris ship aesthetics so terrible

>>180871580
I think it's mostly the blocky guns that look so out of place

>>180869012
Out of respect for Amplitude, I won't bully you for being a frog.

>>180848620
There is an achievement on steam to "Win by eliminating all the other empires". I have murdered literally everyone in my Vodyani game, even killed off all the minor factions for each case, but I am neither getting a victory screen, nor an achievement. It is an achievement different from the one to take over all the capital cities.

Did the game bug out or am I doing something wrong?

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>>180872889
maybe he's just playing with french language settings like a true patrician

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>>180873238
>1024x768

Do you prefer Master of Orion 1 or 2?

>>180872889
Say what you will about the French, but they have made some quality entertainment.

Can the AI just not handle the slower speed settings in Civ 6? I played a game on King difficulty at quick speed setting and got completely raped by the AI before even reaching the medieval era, but I played Emperor difficulty on epic speed setting and breezed through it.

>>180860264
Sword of the Stars 1 and 2 are extremely buggy and have arcane interfaces but they're both basically what you're asking for and they're both good.

>>180873841
2 by far. I adore the ship combat and how much you can specialize your ships. Don't know why no other space game wants to have something similar.

>>180871536
>no flak
you gon get raped

>>180875929
there's flak

>>180876040
flak you

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>>180876040
>on 1 ship
hope you don't face a fallen empire
they like their strike craft

>>180876501
how many flak slots do you prefer to have vs each enemy H slot?

>>180874040
But get 1 and avoid 2, 1 is actually a good game and 2 is the horrific abortion of a game.

woah

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>Starting riftborn playthrough.
>Vodyani are in the same constellation as me.
>Pay tribute every 10 turns or so to keep them quiet.
>Cravers in the nearby constellation.
>Ok just keep em at bay.
>They're already expanding in.
>Don't have the tech to fight them yet.
>Hope they don't see me.
>They see me.
>Demand tribute.
>Fuck you I already pay off space BDSM cultists.
>They don't like that. Who figured.
>See one more adjacent neighbor.
>Please be something at least semi-peaceful.
>Its United Empire
Fuck.

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>>180881956
Also apparently the central constellation's already been taken by a more unofficial empire.

>fallen empire xenophobes have Synths
>as slaves working in their mines and farms

>>180881956
I like how cool that new angel is, but I kinda liked the old one because it was not expressive at all.

>>180885473
I honestly didn't know what the fuck this thing is until I looked it up.
I don't know how the hell this thing's supposed to be an angel and it doesn't do shit to explain why its like that, but based on the other angel designs they're not really supposed to make sense are they.

>>180885625
I'd like to see the old angels more often. Image something who creeps you out, who's totally alien, alien enough to trigger your Lovecraft PTSD, and yet it's benevolent toward you.

>>180865786

>hypermemes is fine

Are you on drugs son? If you race it vs warp along more than 1 or two jumps you always lose.

>>180886335
sounds fine to me

warp master race wins again

>>180885625
Generally speaking, the only angels that are even supposed to look remotely humanoid are the ones who are actually supposed to talk to humans. Outside of that, you get angels that have 4 heads and are on fire (I think) and two intersecting wheels with a fuckton of eyes.

>>180860976

What the rats ass fuck mod is this here?

I want to fire missiles that shoot lasers

>>180886404

But you should always win as hyperspace. Save perhaps when the lanes are absolute shit or have high density.

>at least thats what it was intended to do.

>>180886451
Stellaris Revision mod

>>180886557
This brings up a good point. I know there were old meme discussions about "missiles that fire bullets" back in the day on /b/, but it couldn't work because of the laws of physics.

Lasers, however, are another matter entirely.

>>180886563
>>at least thats what it was intended to do.
It was?

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>>180886761

Everyone knows the best weapon was nun chucks.
Shits for theorycrafting back in the day.

>>180887027
>not sword chucks

>>180886761
>missiles that fire bullets
You mean shrapnels?

>>180877685
I strive to have at least 1 flak on every ship
I have never lost a ship to missiles or fighters because of that

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I'm thinking of getting civ 6, what should I expect? Pic unrelated

>>180881956
>paying the fucking vodyani
I have never seen them get over 400 points in any game ever
even on fucking endless
they cannot function as a faction, and you can freely shove them into gay baby jail without fear

>>180888173
>I strive to have at least 1 flak on every ship
Very inefficient

>>180888502
could autism to optimize it, but I choose to instead completely negate 2 entire weapon types, and just make up the lost firepower with more ships

should i pick up stellaris and all the dlc or endless legend and all the dlc?

>>180889396
Depends, do you prefer space or fantasy? Do you prefer "real time" (like CK2) or turn-based?

>tfw you don't want to use slaves, but you have a lot of society research and you're already into a few repeatable techs and you realize how much value you would get out of Stimulant Diet

>>180886451
Apparently its from one of the dev's twitter

>>180888375
Ai can't play then. Human controlled voidayni are super powerful.

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Gee anons, should I take this or the law that makes diplomacy cost less. Influence is an important resource you know!

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this general isn't going to last out the year

>>180893201
Are you betting against 4x autism?

>>180893201
Eh, Stellaris will keep us alive.
Stellaris may not be a good game but Stellaris posters will keep the general on life support until the first major ES2 DLC gets launched.
Speaking of which, I really hope they follow the EL model of expansions for ES2.

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>>180893201
It doesn't need to.
Probably best to let it rest come fall, then have it come back around december, then go away again only to come back around may next year.

Hey guys, how do I use Privateers/Frigates in Multiplayer, what's the strat? Never had the chance to do a Naval War until today.

>>180895493
What game?

>>180896048
Civ V

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Uplifting a species, and then modifying it further down the line still removes the Uplifted happiness bonus.

I can see it wad desu though

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Is Stellaris worth pirating?

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>>180890757
Scrap kings stacks with other sources of ship-cost reduction. It can get ridiculous.

>>180898030
motherfucker I bet you saved that image from here

I never gave you permission to do that

>>180898157
Fuck you, Niko belongs to everyone.

>>180898030
yeah it's worth pirating.

I think it was fine to pirate in 1.0 for one game.

Just don't expect that it'll stick with you, but I do believe many will have fun for a bit at least.

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>>180898157
No, I got it from my friends over at /vn/.

>>180898263
>>180898263
Its like Rimworld or dwarf fortress where its more the concept of doing something fun keeps you going than it actually being fun on its own.

>>180898373
oh you motherfucker that's definitely my image then, I'm the only one that posts kot on /vn/

>>180898487
Except that Rimworld and Dwarf Fortress are actually fun.

>>180898492
Holy shit, fancy meeting you here.

>>180898263
Thanks, I might give it a spin soon.

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>>180898580
delete your saved kots right now

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>>180898683
Thanks, hadn't seen that one before.

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>>180898798
STOP

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Are we posting cats now?

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>>180898030
>>180898373
>>180898683
>>180898798
>>180898860
ayy kotters

these last few posts are proof that the cat mind virus exists

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>>180899838
tHeRs Is No CaT vIrUs

>>180900505
IN THEIR TONGUE HE IS KITTYKIN
KITTENBORN

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>>180900619
khajiit best race

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Cats are shit.

Spiders are cute.

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>>180901069
why don't you play aurora instead

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>>180899208
>sweatingcatface.jpg

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>>180901302
why

>>180901691
Is the new Master of Orion worth 15-20 bucks? I have an itch.

Can I at least get a stiffy to the waifu races?

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>>180901758
>Can I at least get a stiffy to the waifu races?

>>180901835
So far so good. The Elerians?

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>>180901835

>>180901835
fish titty is better

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>>180901835

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Cats?

>>180873841
>Do you prefer Master of Orion 1 or 2?
Moo 2 is one of the greatest games in history.

>>180902742
T H I C C

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>>180903551
>Moo

Stellaris was the first "space 4x" game that I played, and I am quite new to this genre, but one thing that I liked about stellaris was the terra-forming tech, its a very autistic thing, but taking a dying world and terra-forming the planet into a paradise was quite fun in its own way.

Is there any other space 4x game where terra-formation technology gets a heavy focus?

>>180905714
Star Ruler 2.
Spore (and terraforming here is the best part in the game).
Probably the Endless Space games as well.

groove out with me lads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM0JHl_EZJ8

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Is the Endless Legend collection on Steam worth buying? 17,50 Bux at the moment.

There's something really bad about Civ6 early game, it's really really slow, or is it just me?

>>180906445
I feel the opposite. Early game everything is lightning fast, but the production scaling into late game is terrible.

After I discover psionic theory can I modify other races to be psionic?

>>180888317

Don't.

>>180907379
If you mean if you take the psionic tradition? nope. Also if not all of your founding race are currently members of your empire, the ones outside can't become psionic. There's no way to retroactively become psionic, found that out when I took over the UN Humans. Had psionic humans and non-psi humans.

>>180907667
Wrong, if you have non-psionic pops you get events that can turn them psionic, even non-psi members of your own species.
But, like everything paradox, those non-psi humans that didn't get psi the first time will be considered another subspecies instead of your main species because Paradox.

If I buy Civ6, are the DLCs mandatory (bug and balance fixes, AI improvement, etc)?

>>180907853
>bug and balance fixes, AI improvement, etc
If they made bug fixes paid DLC, the internet would explode, so no.
Developpers are more and more assholes as time goes on, but patches are still free.

>>180907939
I see, then I won't buy the DLC before it goes on sale. Thanks for the help.

>>180906220
>He doesn't already have it
Just buy it.

Why is Stellaris horribly designed at every level?

>>180908540
Because it's designed to be the love child of Sins of Solar Empire and Europa Universalis 4, but is only a bastard child with all the flaws but none of the fun parts.

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So, are the XL weapons actually better than the two L weapons I could have instead?

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>>180908924
they are really not

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>>180899208
AoW3 has the sexiest cat race in 4X.

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>>180906220
It's fantastic.

>>180909559
Can't even tell which ones are cats. And I really need a guide or something for AOW3. I can't wrap my head around it.

>>180908924
it doesn't matter massing naked corvettes will win anways

I've been playing deity for so long I don't remember how to have fun.
Tell me /civ4xg/, which difficulty is actually fun. Like, being able to maybe get an early wonder, fight wars just for the fuck off it and so forth. At which diff level are you one the same starting level as the AI?

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So a religious victory is way easier than I thought it would be

>>180909992
DUDE BACON LMAO

>>180910041
It kicked islam's ass

>>180909834
>it doesn't matter massing naked corvettes will win anways
Except when facing a cruiser or battleship with shields, sure. 1000 naked corvettes can't kill 20 shielded cruisers, no amount of coilgun corvettes will kill a shielded cruiser with two capacitors and class 5 shields. If you try to test it, you need to remove the FTL from the AI's corvettes because it'll try to escape rather than fight, the corvettes won't be able to do any hull damage when forced to fight.

The naked corvette meme is great against things with no shields though, like non-technological leviathans or Prethoryn.

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Why do riftborn need couches?

>>180913716
Do demonstrate that they can "chill".

>>180913716
>going for a game where I kill everyone
>riftborn have been nice to me all game
>message from them
>something along the lines of - "Terrified: We are the last remnants of a dead universe, please spare us!"

Legitimately made me feel bad that I had to wipe everyone out. So far only them and the Unfallen have sent me "Terrified" messages.

>>180916787
I always get on their bad side every game. It seems like if you start close to them it's unavoidable since their AI "personality" gets really mad about colonizing near them or scouting.

>>180917212
They are extremely protective of their land and of their allies. If you get on their good side they are extremely loyal.

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>>180909976
Same starting level is king I think, but you shouldn't want them to be on your level.

You can get early wonders on deity btw. Even GL with the right start and some luck.
Got pic related wonders in a deity game once.
Oracle is usually fairly easy to get.

Go down to emperor, or maybe just immortal though.

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>>180909976
this was an emperor game btw

>>180918840
I wish GoG would buy Emperor already. I like Ancient China.

>>180918916
https://www.gog.com/game/emperor_rise_of_the_middle_kingdom
?

>>180918840
My biggest problem with civ 5(and 6) is that my autism doesn't allow me to build cities less than 6 tiles apart from each-other. I really don't know why.

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>>180919041
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>180919395
in civ5 pre-bnw it is overpowered to go for ICS since there was no tech penalty from #cities.
There was a social policy cost penatly, but that has pretty much always been overcome with new culture from cities and policies.
Especially pre-bnw when the culture buildings gave so much more culture.

If you see the tile yield of the city, and all its buildings you should really start seeing how much value you get out of getting more cities per tile.
pre-bnw, in bnw there are potential problems in tech.
The china image was in bnw though, but even then I could manage tech on emperor with that kind of city spamming.

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Soon I will end this madness

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>>180901069
realized some mistakes


disintegrators are still a bit off

ARE YOU GOING TO SCARBOROUGH FAIR

what's the most ironpilled ship design /civ4xg/?

So when exactly is someone supposed to fuck with the Vodyani?

I played an MP game as the vods and felt untouchable the entire game in my space castles.

Early game I ate Horatio until I had like, 5 Arks, then I transitioned in to planting my ass on every 5 planet system I could find. If I was concerned about another player, I'd just fly over and Holy Warred them until I felt I slowed down their progress enough.

By the time other players were even imagining revving up carriers I had already dominated the stars, practically speaking. The others conceded. Are the Deus Vultyani broken, or am I just busy admiring that perfect dust ass?

The other players were UE, mafia fish, Ayyyys and trees, AI filled in the other factions.

PARSLEY, SAGE, ROSEMARY AND THYME

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>>180848620
>no tags
Made me think

>>180922975
Back to /fgog/, Kiyo.

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>>180909976
Prince is the "Neutral" difficulty where neither the AI nor you get bonuses or penalties. That being said the AI gets a special penalty called "retarded" so...

>>180923046
I hate redditor newfags NA FGO was a mistake

AND GATHER IT ALL IN A BUNCH OF HEATHER

fgo is a shit game, even as mobage go

THEN SHE'LL BE A TRUE LOVE OF MINE

BARLEY WHEAT RYE
DID THIS THREAD JUST DIE?

>>180924836
fug

Ded genre

Ded thred

>>180922867
If they attack your non ark fleets early you just fall stagnant. Cravers fuck space BDSM people hard.

>>180926762
better dead than falling to shitposts

>>180919395
Funny, my autism makes me want to build cities no more than 3 tiles away from each other

Thinking about getting stellaris, is it shit without the DLC's or is it alright on its own?

>>180927120
Even with DLC's, it's really shallow

god knows what its like without them

>>180927120
it's pretty fun

>>180927050
My brain wants each city to have a maximum of workable tiles and have them not overlap.

>>180927959
I used to do this, but then I realized that no city would ever grow enough to use every single tile, even if no specialist slots were ever filled

Did Science production go down because of corruption in Civ 3

Where is the code for the automatic system controllers in endless space 2? I want to fix it.

>>180928615
I don't think anyone ever played civ3

>>180927120
I'd treat at least the utopia dlc as a sidegrade.

I'm in the camp that believes maybe you shouldn't be able to build dyson spheres and ringworlds. Now they also suck so no one is really happy about them.

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Since the academy quest in ES2 has huge lore implications, which of the endings do you believe will be considered canon for the future, assuming we go back to this universe?

I am leaning towards the return of the Lost, since it has more interesting consequences for the universe and offers a continuous narrative.

>>180929596
well, all of amplitude's games are in the endless universe, so there's no doubt that we will be going back to it

>>180929854
Well yes, but the games could be set before the events of ES2 or before the full return of the Lost, so the ending wouldn't matter.

>>180929596
I think guesses at this point would be baseless. Wait for expansions, they will probably give us a clue. If they expand on the Lost or Lost aligned factions, than it will probably be the canon ending.

Anyone wanna give me a rundown on Jadwiga? Is she fun, and is she good?

>>180930967
she wuz kang

Stellaris would be GOAT if it was Victoria 2 in space

>>180934000
can't have that, because pops would actually be interesting

I wish planets were way less involved (like if they had small building trees to specialize in instead) but sectors were gone
also, why doesn't stellaris just reduce ship amount by tenfold? is there a mod for that? then the game would not fucking crash from 1000s of corvettes

>>180934000
>bad game would be goat if it was another bad game but in space

>>180934353
Victoria 2 is the undisputed GOAT of grand strat, any grand strat that is made needs to take it as model

>>180934000
>Stellaris would be GOAT if it wasn't Stellaris
I can agree with that.

>>180898030

Stellaris is always worth pirating. Check the CODEX tracker or go to skidrowreloaded. ES2 is trickier because a lot of fags have been putting malware.

>>180934000
>>180934454
Vicky is a good game but that's just nostalgia talking. DW and CK2 are both better grand strats than it is. Vicky has some mods that make it shine, but same can be said about therse two. And if you want a more war focused expirience, contrary to what /gsg/ says, EU4 is a good game too nowdays, took them few dozen expacs to get there tho.

>Great Library in Civ 5 is a must have
>Great Library in Civ 6 is a joke
What did they mean by this?

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>When you find the difficulty setting that's just hard enough to be challenging but not so hard that it isn't comfy.
This is bliss.

>>180934851
>>Great Library in Civ 5 is a must have
it isn't

on deity you should in most cases not try to go for it

>>180934730
Stellaris needs better mechanics for how diplomacy works (take all the types of war goals V2 has, puppet-tier system, and maybe SoI system as well), make pops actually work, war system is shit but I'm not fussed at its current system and would rather have other shit fixed instead

>>180935105
No wonder is a "must-have", except maybe Chichen Itza, but you know what I mean.

>>180935217
Stellaris needs to be abandoned desu. There are far too many fundamental issues to bother with it. The problem with that is - for some folks those things I see as fundamental failures are the very appeal of the game, so I think people should stop talking about "fixing" stellaris, simply because it seems everyone has their very own idea on what stellaris should be, and at that point having discussion about it is pointless. Rather one must determine if the current direction of stellaris fits their fancy and if it doesn't move on.

>>180935092
Were you the guy who couldn't find right EL difficulty? How did you end up finding it if you were?

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>>180935963
>Were you the guy who couldn't find right EL difficulty?
Nope, fraid not.
I finally found a difficulty that works with me for ES2 and I didn't have a good enough ES2-related image to display the joy.

>>180848620
How do I peacefully convert planets in ES2? Do I need a specific tech?

>>180936816
Yes. T4 Empire. Don't remember the name.

>>180936996
Thank you.

>playing civ6
>find a camp
>1 turn later a horseman spawns
>defeat the horseman
>another horseman spawns
Ok.

>Xenophobic Fallen Empires emperors agenda:
>Xeno Outreach

>>180937140
You triggered them
Or someone else did
Their scout that is, it saw a city, came back and triggered the spawning of barbarians units to raid said city.

>>180937356

lol. Every fucking time!

>fanatic xenophobe faction

bomp

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>>180881530
>>180921857
darn, awakened empires seem to get a buff to shields and hull as well

>>180909976
>>180918840
5 or 6

I could never win a deity game

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why do i always play the human faction? am i boring?

>>180940467
A little.

Is Civ VI worth it on sale or should I stick to V + expansions?

Is it possible to have Vodyani population as a non-Vodyani?

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>>180941424
yeah

>>180941553
How do you get them? Do I just take over a Vodyani world?

>>180941885
Instead of destroying the Ark, just invade the system

>>180941885
Invading the system will both destroy the ark and give you ownership of the system, transferring control of the population and the ark's improvements to your empire

while this is preferable to blowing up the ark, there's always the threat of the ark just blowing up your invasion fleets

>>180942707
>there's always the threat of the ark just blowing up your invasion fleets
Arks can't disembark a system when they are being invaded. Arks need to disembark to engage in ship-to-ship combat. So, no, there is no such a threat.

>>180942257
>>180942707
Ah, that makes sense. Cheers.

Is the extra stuff in endless space 2 deluxe edition worth it?

>>180944603
Is my dick up your ass worth it?

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>>180944603
As an early access DE owner, nope.

>>180937140
>>180937474
That was the thing that pushed me away from Civ VI the most. Fucking retarded game design that forces you to build military units.

>>180944912
Don't encourage him, he might be pozzed.

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>>180944951
>that cutie on the left
RPG in the endless universe when ? Seriously this shit has so much potential. Give us the new mass effect with Vodyani and fishtits romance and GOTYAY easily, my dudes

>>180945480
>Vodyani and fishtits romance
>not wanting a Riftborn waifu
You sicken me

>>180944951
>everything about that image
i want this

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>wanting ANYTHING else than a romance with a perfect female Horatio

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>>180945594
Of course, it was merely a warm up, anon. We also need shit like a customizable ship, an academy quest where you can become a fucking hero, and so on

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>>180945480
>Give us the new mass effect with Vodyani and fishtits romance and GOTYAY easily, my dudes
Funnily, the Pathfinders trailer of ES2 was full of comments that it made it look like the game is ME style RPG.

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>>180945807
Yeah, I'm rewatching it and there is an undeniable ME vibe in it. It also would be cash if you could choose to be a sort of conqueror and go up in ranks in influence, being able to rule over a planet or a military order, or simply stay a mere rogue who just wants to make dust and friends with people.

That would be surely hard to pull off but I have yet to find an RPG which let you do that kind of shit

>>180946356
>>180945807
FUCK i love amplitudes art style

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>>180946795
It's awesome

>>180946356
>That would be surely hard to pull off but I have yet to find an RPG which let you do that kind of shit
Because you need a simulationist RPG, not a theme park for that. And because for that to be good you probably want it to be with other players.

That being said there is a number of OS CRPGs that try. BG1/2, Torment (old one does it better, but new one has better gameplay), Follout 1/2. They all generally have a main quest that you have to do to progress the story, but you can always flip the bird and go your own way. Obsidian's tyrrany deserves special mention, while you are stuck with being who you are in it, the game focuses heavily on being able to offer multiple paths to progress along, each short, each well developed with it's own unique choices.

On the other hand TES and new Follout series offer that sort of thing a plenty, but have depth of a puddle.

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>>180946356
>space tech combined with WW1 tier cloak
Pure sex

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>>180946356
>Craver teammate
>always talks about how he's hungry and asks if you don't have a snack on you
>makes jokes about eating you and the crew during your sleep
>he's a fucking tank in combat and people always shit their pants when they see him behind your back
>you can romance him

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Well, that's a nice start for me to practice endless difficulty. Thanks game.


>>180946356
A couple old space games do that, Space Rangers and Freelancer namely, probably some others, more modern, space sims do it too, but I have no idea which ones are worth playing.

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>>180947685
>Romance a female craver
>You can eat her out

>>180948106
I don't think female cravers exist

unless they're all sterile females, which would sort of make sense since they're supposed to be insects

>>180948298
the only reproducing females in craver society are queens, which are essentially birthing machines with the ability to veto the bishops if necessary
in one of the quests you get for having craver populations, it notes that the bishops are sterile females, meaning it's highly likely that lesser cravers are also sterile females

>>180948759
>meaning it's highly likely that lesser cravers are also sterile females
That's some grade A asspull. If you are insinuating that they are all female, then they wouldn't be females, but hermaphrodites. We know that most low level cravers are dumb as bricks, while bishops and queens are smart enough to be considered individuals. What stands to reason, assuming there are no male bishops which I'm not 100% sure about, that brainpower is part of their sexual dichotomy, with males getting the short end of the stick.

>>180948759
>cravers are all female race
Intriguing

>>180945807
So vodyani are pure energy/virutal right? How would they fuck? I'm going to draw some r34. Should I give him a cyber glowing cock?

>>180949108
>>180949107
Well ants are almost 100% females

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>>180949319
>Should I give him a cyber glowing cock?
yes