/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

How low poly can my assets be for first person to not be disgusting?

Suck my block

third for gogem is our town's fool

where's the chicken

I only show up for the chicken

one more monolith track

https://clyp.it/0n010civ

two more

I didn't want to post this in the old thread so here.

>>180705994
>>180706010
>>180706423
So many ways to go about it. Maybe having some initial set up that never leads anywhere but simply acts as a motivation for the whole thing could work.

>>180706259
Weirdly enough I still haven't played this. I figure I should if I am to proceed with this project.

>>180706494
>Is it FPS or TPS?
I was actually thinking TBS or Real-Time Tactics. Controlling a crew instead of one guy.

>Also does it have space combat, or just the boarding sections?
I wasn't planning on having space combat as it would blow the scope out of hand having to make two different combat systems.

>>tfw wanted to make a space pirate game with boarding forever
That's still quite different from this. Or at least I hope so. Go on, space pirates are cool!

>>180706501
Looks interesting. I'll have to look that up. From a first glance seems quite different than what I had in mind.

>>180708458
It's a good example of how similar ideas seem like when you describe it with a few sentences. And the idea itself is a bit generic so it would make sense that a lot of people have similar ideas. And a nice reminder that ideas themselves don't have any value.

>>180709487
Thanks. It's been something that I've returned to fiddling with every now and then but this is the first time I feel like my skills might actually be able to pull it through.

Thanks for all the replies. I think this will help me figure out where to take the initial design.

>>180712841
im all about the meta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsYJUWhgbYI

>>180713167
>I would be ok with goog's intentionally provoking attitude if it actually produced any commercial success
one comma later....
>but right now his only decently successful game was SIT purely because of its memetic nature
if you dont see my beautiful provocateur nature shining from every aspect of SIT you arent paying much attention

>>180714102
this is not a proper /agdg/ header image, OP

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So I have been making a thing, I am getting close to alpha.

Soon in valve time Ill have something to show.

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>>180714398
Nani?

>>180714480
is

is the pic related

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>>180714524
U got the thing wrong it doesn't matter some people pretend it does cause they suck penises.

Mah gaem is liek huw 2 saey is getin gud

too many africans to post anything though y'all are thieves.

>>180714102
> How to Webm
>anime OP
so close

>>180714480
nice pic
Alpha will be in demoday?

>>180714382
post detective game progress

>>180714163
Low poly in FPS isn't disgusting, its comfy
Less cognitive load to parse the scene

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>>180714646
It is one of the references and inspirations to my game yes.

same with.
https://youtu.be/uL7Gbpdwv-Y

>>180714760
What's a good example of low-poly FPS?

>>180714480
>>180714824
>someone else drawing inspiration from Doom and Hexen

Tell us more.

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>>180714760
I doubt it somehow because its multiplayer so I need to heavily test everything.

>>180714828
FPS is the genre of what I am building.

>>180714828
Ctesiphon

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>>180714928
Not exactly too sure what I can say we are a small team of 3-4 working out of a labour of love for video games our team formed because we where all upset with the trend modern games where taking.

We are an international team.

>>180714163
Depends on the aesthetic you're pushing. There's stuff like Desync where you can basically see each triangle and they still look decent within their aesthetic. Just go with what works for you.

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>>180715223

I am the Programmer.

halp

learning to program while building the game is painful but i recommend the hard way to EVERYONE.

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So... did you guys hear about the shitstorm going on with youtube DMCAs?

One jewish tranny is fucking everyone's shit up. It's pretty scary stuff.

>>180715579
Give me a summary of the dilemma that is abstracted to the point of being sterilized of the mention of any of the specific people involved.

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>>180715265
I hope we can get our aesthetic right.

>>180714928
Hard to mention specific things without being asked a specific question "whats your health system like"

Its not a traditional hp system.

>>180715579
No? elaborate

>>180715762
What's the gameplay like, what weapons you got planned, monsters, environments you'll be seeing? Any unique gameplay mechanics? Movement stuff, player abilities?

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This is low poly 3D. Anything else is indie rehash shit.

How do I figure out how often I need to give the player New Shit in a heavily proc gen SRPG with perma death? The game is divided into 8 parts and each part takes 20 minutes to get through but a reward every 20 minutes sounds too infrequent.

>>180715910
And it looks beautiful

>>180715910
Modelling is easy as shit but texturing is too hard.

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>>180715812
The gameplay is right now something I cannot specifically mention.

The weapons we have planned is a pretty large list

Monsters is an interesting topic each creature has its own unique abilities and AI and are all meant to be difficult

The one interesting thing I can mention is theres a paperdoll for equipment.

Movement is pretty standard.


Lots.

I know thats fairly vague but we are getting pretty close to having something to put out to get people to try it out.

I intend to be pretty active in the community that spawns from it trying to appease and nutcup everyone by making it good, After all I am making it so that we can all have a game to enjoy without me selling out to Microsoft and doing daily DLC shit.

>>180716187
Vague is not a good sign. Tell us about some weapons, and some monsters, because as vague and wishy washy as you're being makes it seem like you either have fuck all planned/written down, or you're just ideaguying at this point.

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>>180715812
>>180716267

here have a tiny hint.

No I am not making a Tacos Flamberg clone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5xlnfsX8wA

>You can knock people down and steal their boots.

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>>180715762
>>180715745
>indie devs hire a jewish tranny for music
>tranny chimps out during development
>tranny now going around hitting EVERY SINGLE channel that has the game with DMCA strikes despite signing a contract saying all music made is property of the indie devs
>tranny now larping as a lawyer holding DMCA strikes for ransom unless the youtube channels make smear videos about the indie devs
>even adult swim's games are being taken down by DMCA strikes from the tranny
>no one can stop him

Be very careful who you hire for contract work, fellas.

>>180716368
>jewish
will literally never hire a kike or a tranny, or anyone from commiefornia.

>>180715973
It depends on what kind of rewards are we talking about. You didn't really give us enough information to allow any kind of help.

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>>180716368
Yeah already had to go through all those issues when getting my little team setup.

People trying to steal unfinished code man like da fuck.

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How can you design a game to be:
>3d
>have cute anime girls
>not be pixelcore
>not look cringy
Can it be done? Bonus: be achievable by an indie dev

Does anyone have even scraps of concept art or something to help?

>>180716504
>3d anime
>not cringy
impossible

>>180716464
That's true. Fair enough. My experience is that people don't read long posts about mechanics.

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>>180716504
Y-yes.

>>180716472
how did you solve it then?

did you do some sort of "work for hire" deal or what?

jesus fuck for the life of me i can't grok godot.

am i just stupid guys?

>>180716504
Go play nier automata

>>180716504
>3D
>Cute anime girls
Hard but not impossible,
You will have to mess a lot to get the the right model with the right shaders, and probably mess with the perspectives according the camera angle, like they did for GGX.
Simpler approach, do what Tree of savior did, using a 3d model for the character bodies and bilboard for the heads

>>180715910
>This is low poly 3D. Anything else is indie rehash shit.

but anon your post is the definition of indie rehash shit. it even comes from a hipster lowpoly thread.

http://polycount.com/discussion/comment/2544763#Comment_2544763

>>180716968
>GGX
Mean GGXrd

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>>180716772
Basically, yeah.

Contracts are in effect and the team knows its a labour of love we are doing it because we want to play our dream game.

Not make a quick buck.

>>180716504
nights of azure
certain touhou doujin games

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I am paying out of my pocket though for anything thats required and theres alot of nuances there as is with the money issue.

>>180716863
well i've never heard anyone without a serious mental deficiency actually use the word "grok" in conversation so that's a clue

>>180717165
>hangs out in a place like agdg but pretends to be too cool for a word like grok
Is being a tryhard faggot a serious mental deficiency or is it just one of your character flaws?

>>180716863
>shittily maintained documentation
>only a few tutorials online
>basically Unity-lite with no pros and all the cons
>decision on which feature to implement next is handled by asking an Ouija board
>constrained to godot objects

no, its pretty resonable to not get godot

>>180717165
I just wanted to be hip with the rad kids

>>180717338
cool. should I move to unity personal? can that still make me money or something?

>>180717063
i am also compiling a team

It is intended as a free and open source project. But I quess that if there is anything to steal or a way to screw others over then someone will find a way to do it.

So, should I also impose a contract for my free project? What do you think? You already have experience with this.

>>180717482
>should I move to unity personal?
it really depends on what kind of game are you making

some games fit perfectly into that design paradigm that every THING must be an object with a graphical counterpart. And that speeds the work up quite a lot.

however, some other games can be achieved much easier through a graphical API where you are not constrained to that one way of doing things.

I don't know what kind of game you are making, so I can't give you a better answer.

>>180717321
grok is an awful new age term that some early computer programmers used because their parents were braindead hippie burnouts. some teenage retard that complains he can't understand how to drag and drop shit into a premade engine using the word "grok" to look smart is incredibly pathetic.

>>180717663

Like a lot of people I have a shitload of undercooked ideas. I'm starting small, perhaps a text game or something arcade, and I'm sure some other tool would fit better. It's just that I wanna start with one, learn it, and stick with it, and I think a more general engine like Godot or Unity would be better than say, Renpy or RPG Maker or some shit. All of this is hobby for me though so it's k.

>>180717482
>I just wanted to be hip with the rad kids
forget it dude, you will never grok the information superhighway. the world ends in 2000 anyway so let's drop acid instead.

This is a stupid ass math question but I'm trying to make an upgrade have diminishing returns, so it adds 10 on the first point, then 9, then 9, then 8 etc.

But I'm having so much trouble finding a way to make a sequence like this. I'm sure it must be so easy I'm just retarded. Any advice?

>>180717962
That's probably one of the easy stuff. I'm not your guy though, but it's probably something exponential function related.

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whelp my game plays like shit. i tried the last big potential fix and its barely different. should i fake it till i make it or just give up again.

>>180717492
Yeah as a precaution get some documentation and and maybe something like an NDA and that kind of thing.

People will steal from you.

>>180717962
uh, stat += 10 - level? or do you actually want two 9s in there?

Can a game with graphics like Ori and the Blind Forest be made by a 1MA within 3 years?

>>180714102
I hate Madoka. I could never watch it more than 2-3 episodes.

>>180718207
Also keep in mind that even the most airtight legal contracts won't stop the kind of bullshit that's happening to Imagos and Adult Swim right now.

Avoid trannies like the plague. They are ticking time bombs.

>>180716187
>The gameplay is right now something I cannot specifically mention.
>The weapons we have planned is a pretty large list
>Monsters is an interesting topic each creature has its own unique abilities and AI and are all meant to be difficult
zzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>180718313
Ideally it uses multiplication so it works for any values, with any max.

I kinda found a cheaty way.. but it feels like there's a better way than what im doing

>>180718316
It depends. If you already have the skills (art, dev etc.) and if you are not an engine dev, then maybe.

>>180718316
you can get to mars within 3 years if you know what you're doing.

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>>180717962
create an enumeration for the range of diminishing returns, that way you can even apply effects / affects to each state.

>>180718207
Some people won't even realize they are stealing especially if you are working at varying paces.

Becareful with your hiring, don't want to have a situation like

>>180715579


>>180718192
"faking it till you make it"
Is similar logic to people that say trying hard is bad.

Why not just fix it ? don't have fist it all the time.

brush up on your debugging.

Heres my debugging music I like to listen to.


>>180718349
You goto learn to read bro I gave more hints.

Besides it will speak for itself I am not trying to promote it incase you didn't notice?

>>180717165
>anyone without a serious mental deficiency
Grok is pretty niche nomenclature, more likely they're a wonk than a potato

where have you found good free mocap data?

>>180718316
i dunno, can you produce vast quantities of beautiful and consistently stylized artwork very fast?

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WHY IS THERE NO ENGINE/LANGUAGE THAT JUST DOES GUIS EASILY FOR ME AND NOTHING ELSE

WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE EITHER TOO DIFFICULT, TOO BLOATED AND SLOW, OR FUCKS ME AROUND WITH WEIRDASS SHIT LIKE GAMEMAKER

WHY WHY WHY

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>>180718465
woops forgot song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILSiVO3dDYg

>>180718316
maybe at full time. but I'd say no. or a really short one.

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>>180718537
>TOO BLOATED AND SLOW
This is really a meme, chances are the bottleneck is going to be you, not the engine

>>180718537
>WHY IS THERE NO ENGINE/LANGUAGE THAT JUST DOES GUIS EASILY FOR ME AND NOTHING ELSE

imgui+sfml?

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Added capital ships, both for player and for AI. Still need to give AI better.. AI.

But now I have fighters and capital ships so there's that. Now I just need to do weapon configuring, then I'm ALMOST done with UI bullshit and can do actual gameplay/levels

>>180718509
saying grok just means you've read some horrible programming tutorial from 2003 and haven't done enough real programming to notice nobody talks like that anymore

>>180718658
I get autistically paranoid about performance.

>>180718735
What is that? Google shows nothing.

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>>180718873
yeah the word grok is not programming jargon, It is nodev jargon.

>>180718767
Whats the point of having a nice ship model if 90% of the time its 1 inch on the screen

>>180718998
Why not?

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>>180718873
>haven't done enough real programming to notice nobody talks like that
How does programming teach you how people talk?

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Ya know, adding more viewing directions didn't look as good as I thought it would.

>>180718537
like use Windows Forms, haha

>>180719163
I like it

>>180718658
different anon but even ignoring the actual game's performance the tools themselves feel really bloated and slow to use. i started making shit by modding neverwinter nights and unity in 2017 feels more sluggish than a silly modding tool did back in 2002.

software is getting slow faster than hardware is getting fast.

>>180718901
>What is that? Google shows nothing.

https://github.com/ocornut/imgui
https://eliasdaler.wordpress.com/2016/05/31/imgui-sfml-tutorial-part-1/

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>>180719267
I use unity as well and disabling auto-refresh helps. That way it only rebuilds your scripts when you hit control-r, rather than every time you save a change.

>>180719163
Maybe better controls, just watching it looks clunky. Like the first person view in metal gear solid

>>180719157
real programming involves working with other people or at the very least reading modern books, papers, watching lectures etc. i'd argue if you've never worked in at least a mid-sized team you have no idea what programming is because you never needed to write something other people had to read.

>>180719415
Or you know, because first person pixel art are a real solid combo

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I found this in the archive today. It looks cool, any updates from this guy?

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>>180719458
How do you think FPS started out?

<- pic related its you

>>180719561
Doom has aged like ass, art wise.
And his art is placeholder tier as well

>>180719458
yeah, doom was awful

>>180719508
thats an awful lot of art

>>180719612
but doom looks great. it sure looks better than the following decade of awful 3d models.

>>180719163
neat

>>180719676
>but doom looks great
it doesnt though, thats all nostalgia/ faux-nostalgia my dude.
And besides his FP is different than dooms anyway.
If youre going to mix 3d and 2d avoid hard lines unless minimalism.

>>180719163
Nice idea.

>>180719612
You forgot the fact that we are making games here. If it's fun, then it's good.

>>180719772
>it doesnt though
it does though. i look at it and my penis gets hard. your argument is that my erection is improperly motivated and therefore illegitimate, but there's no such thing as an illegitimate erection.

>>180719925
I think you need to go take health class again lad.

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>>180719415
first person view was just something I wanted to try out. Otherwise I would have gone full 3d instead of dicking around with opengl

>>180719235
>>180719732
>>180719836
thanks

>>180719772
>it doesnt though, thats all nostalgia/ faux-nostalgia my dude.
Shut your trap because you're spouting shit that you know nothing about.

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Retarded wannabe enginedev here. What resourses would you reccomend for learning c++? I already know how to code. There used to be some stuff in the OP here but it seems to be gone now.

>>180719992
i'm talking about legitimacy, not health. he's trying to tell me that, for intangible reasons, my boner "doesn't count". all boners count.

>>180719163
You could turn them into 3d view models or HD sprites when in view mode

>>180720208
By the way, is it some algorithm which turns the 2D topdown into 3D, or do you actually have both a 2D and a 3D world and switch between them?

>>180720262
Trial and error, to be honest. Other than that:
http://www.cplusplus.com/
http://www.learncpp.com/

And then to shift to game dev:
http://lazyfoo.net/tutorials/SDL/index.php
https://learnopengl.com/

>>180720331
>all boners count.
A gay dude drugs you and ties a rope around your dick.
Is that a legitimate erection?

>>180720456
he should turn them into absurdly detailed "real homer simpson"-type drawings so that when you go to 3d your perfect pixel waifu turns into a greasy blob covered in pimples and gaping pores.

>>180720584
in this analogy, john carmack?

>>180719163
I kinda like how it looks to be honest

>>180720654
No, the most grotesque BBM from the nastiest gay NTR doujin

>>180720706
and this current conversation has what to do with game dev?

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Is landscape features like the circled thing just static meshes mixed with Unreal's landscape tools? Or can you actually do this in engine?

>>180720750
Yeah that's a static mesh. There are a couple techniques you can use for seamless blending, though: verrtex painting in Unreal, or use a triplanar projection material.

>>180720456
I'm a shit artist so that would be down the road

>>180720528
One map, 2 methods. I just switch between rendering a sprite or some vertices

>>180720584
of course. there is blood filling the porous tissues of my penis, so i have an erection. it's a real erection. not wanting to have an erection does not render it "fake" when it does happen since erections are involuntary anyway.

(so is the idea at this point that gay rapists have chemically reprogrammed my brain to like the graphics of doom?)

>>180720903
No, its that im tired and need to go to bed.
First person pixes art is still trash though.

Is Maya LT good enough for 3d modeling/animating for games made in UE4 or should I shill out for full Maya/Max?

>>180720812
Thanks for the info, I've been wondering about that the past few days but haven't had the time to look into it. Now I have something to look up.

>>180720941
whatever, stay flaccid

>>180720262
Windower SDL2
Renderer OpenGL

Whatever math/ UI/ mechanical skills u want in ur game.

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>>180721039
3DS Max has more tutorials for modeling, and Maya is flat out superior for animating. Both are great tools but they each have their strength and weakness. Personally I use 3DS Max to model and animate everything I do in UE4 and have zero problems getting along fine.

>>180723201
not that guy but blender's still perfectly serviceable for the average gamedev, right?
I have Maya/3ds but I realized that I can't actually use it for commercial purposes because I have a student license

>>180716504
Step one: get Japanese artists

>>180721039
Get Maya LT. The only limitation that had me in stupor till now was absence of Component Editor for editing skin weights but that's easily workable around. There are also such limits as a max allowable number of animation layers but I never needed that either. As for rendering - we don't need that in gamedev and ShaderFX is more than enough (I even managed to write a custom GGXrd-like shader for real-time editing just like in the GDC video). I still prefer Max's and Blender's modeling tools to Maya but that's starting to fade away as I starting to get used to Maya's ways.

>>180719163
I think it's cool

>>180719508
Check the demo day

>>180723975
Anzu didn't want to be a wagecuck, her plan was to make a big hit and live the rest of her life of royalties. If anything she would actually be interested in making a game.

Think a squad tactical game like XCom, Jagged Alliance, Shadowrun, etc.

What would you prefer, turn based (XCom) or real time with pause (Doorkickers, JA Back In Action)? I'm torn here.

1-4 on map battle
5-9 battle on a separate screen
0 give up

>>180724097
Turn Based for sure.
RTWP is harder to manage and adds nothing to the gameplay.

>>180724290
>adds nothing to the gameplay
Except making me hit spacebar every 3 seconds, of course.

>>180723301
Just buy 3ds max before your game goes commercial, nothing wrong with that.

>>180724290
>>180724327
Harder to manage for the player? It seems that Turn Based is harder to program, but my guess it's simpler to manage by the player afterwards.

I am partial to Real Time With Pause. It makes it look more real. I would like everyone's opinion on this matter.

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I added sounds for the rocket sword.
I fucking love this part.
https://my.mixtape.moe/zzlnty.webm

I have this brilliant concept for a multiplayer video game.
It can be done with no graphics within a browser such that you just click stuff, but i wonder if i should dress it up somehow, make a story around it, throw in some graphics and release a downloadable client.

>>180725027
Make a text prototype and if people that test it give a shit dress it up.

FUCK UE4

ok, so i got two monitors n computers, i'm thinking about doing something stupid, multiplayer.

>>180724595
>1470 per year
yeesh
Deving is more of a hobby thing so i'll pass

>>180725102
damn, or you can import your models into blender and then export them from blender.

and voila! you just laundered your 3D model!

>>180719163
experiment with narrower FOV/wider flocal length + zoom/crop
maybe also over the shoulder.
maybe fixed rotations, ease movement, like when you rotate the world in fez

>>180725176
>voila
>not walla
that's crazy enough to work, thanks

>>180718537
libagar
libnuklear

>>180724781
either system is pretty easy to program

hard is programming the AI

if you just make the AI into brain dead goofs, then it doesn't really matter which system you use

however, turn based system is easier to program the AI to. each agent is gonna act in turn afterall. In real time implementation, the AI algorithm has to be effective enough to not kill the computer when running each frame for every actor and real time environment also introduces several new strategies that turn based environments don't have

>>180718537
also Tk

>>180724796
That's pretty epic, man.
>>180725091
What's the problem?

Trying to formulate ideas for a turn based RPG thats all strategy and no RNG, but I'm beginning to wonder if people would even like that. I mean people usually hate RNG in those kinds of games but isn't RNG part of the fun for those types of games?

>>180714298
>And a nice reminder that ideas themselves don't have any value.
Yeah, I like the sound of yours better anyway.

>implement pausing on alt-tab because you want to do other things while testing your game and not have the mouse-move take you to the edge of the map

>>180725660
You'll need good AI writing skills. RNG in strategy is usually to make things more challenging because making "real" challenges is quite difficult. And has low replayability.

I think minimal RNG is good to keep things fresh, but try to keep it out of the core combat system

>>180725985
Yeah, I was thinking more along the lines of no crits or misses, unless an ability specifically causes your next attack to crit or certain enemy attacks to miss. And yeah it'd probably take someone with a good understanding to make something like that good but it was only an idea for now.

>>180725660
I struggled with this for a good while, and anons gave me some solid advice. Basically use RNG but try to minimize its role as much as possible.
I used a new PRNG which is the fastest one yet and with great distribution, and did some stuff so that even with rng, the %chance to hit for the player is higher than shown. For example, the hit rate is shown as 40%, the game calculates RNG and even with that the actual hit % doesn't go below 50%. It is a little rigged in the player's favour ,and some mechanics like manipulate RNG to increase the hit and crit % at low health behind the scenes. It makes it less frustrating like some players complain, like missing at 99% and stuff.
I was biased in favour of RNG too, so it worked out. The PRNG implementation is PCG btw, you can get it here:
http://www.pcg-random.org
Faster and better than Mersenne twister and exactly the one I needed.
I abandoned it and now am rewriting it in godot though

>>180726149
alright, thanks for the advice anon and good luck

>>180714102
I've just checked the duration of the Monster Jam, and I though to myself "isn't the main reason we don't have a lot of participant in our jam the duration of these?"

I mean most of us can't spend two week working on a game, it's too much time.
Wouldn't it be more interesting to make our next jam a "A day a game jam"? Or a mini ludum dare kind of jam, that would be more an excuse to actually try things that we want to do without wanting to spend weeks on it than a real jam?

Because seriously, who want to spend two week working on a side project that will have absolutely no real positive result? I don't. My main project as nothing to do with video games right nows, and I'd like jam to be an excuse to develop more than an investissment that have no positive result.

Tl;dr: Could next jam be a "short timed" jam?

>>180726432
No

>>180726481
Can you give us some argument?

>>180725660
a turn based rpg that's all strategy is basically chess, good luck making a decent ai for that and balancing it to not have a shitty difficulty curve.
rng is part of the fun because there is no perfect play, even if both players play the perfect move set they may loose to rng, which makes fun moments for both parties and doesn't make the game solvable (follow this guide for perfect victory).
now i didn't say to make rng the core of gameplay, just spice things up, a 5-10% chance to fail, +-20% damage to not make it static...

>>180726432
some people from discord who haven't been in the thread for a year made weekend-long jams and did some piss-poor attempts at getting them to catch on here
they got more games than most /agdg/ jam attempts since lewd jam (which hardly was an /agdg/ jam anyway), but i don't think there was any game that came from a non-discorder in there

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>>180726112
>no crits or misses
Yeah, those suck.

>it was only an idea for now
Good. I didn't really want another no-RNG, pure strategy, final destination project here that might eclipse mine.

>>180726149
I think tinkering with the generator and misrepresenting exactly what's going on to the player is dancing around the issue.

>>180726589
yeah, it'd be hard to make good AI, or to also make it fun for all.
>>180726620
don't worry anon, you're safe.

>>180726589
>a 5-10% chance to fail, +-20% damage
Even that's the wrong place for it, imo.

Using it for map gen or item drops will make each game different without making combat occasionally decided by luck alone.

It doesn't get around the fact you'll need a good AI, but AIs are much better at solving games than humans. There's room for randomness in AI decisions too

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> Ideal length for an RPG game tutorial?

I've noticed many games these days dispense with tutorials, when the gameplay is pretty straight forward (puzzle games, platformers, roguelikes), but more complex games (ie. EU4) often require a tutorial to grasp the most basic of gameplay.

One tutorial I hated was the Divinity: Original Sin tutorial. The whole first 30 mins of the game acted as the start of the game and a tutorial rolled into one. Considering how many times I restarted, the charming little tutorial quickly became tiresome.

On the opposite end of the spectrum is Path of Exile, which had no tutorial. Here is a weapon, here is a zombie -> kill it. Now you are on your own kid. That being said, learning how to play PoE was a metagame in itself.

The tutorial for my own game is only around 15 mins and barely scrapes the surface of gameplay, but I feel anything longer would be annoying.

Thoughts? How long are your tutorials?

>>180727174
My tutorial is just the control scheme written on a wall because that's how I prefer to have it, learning stuff yourself is fun and I already have a long ass intro cutscene.

>>180727408
>learning stuff yourself is fun
yeah

>>180727174
What's your game? Unless it's approaching EU4 complexity keep the tutorial minimal. Control scheme + how not to lose immediately if it's easy to do so

>>180727174
make them skippable, if it's that complex, make a tutorial section separated from the game, imo i'm in love with tooltips, if you need to know something you hover above it, whether it's a button or a stat or an action, this way even if you resume your game after years you'd still know everything you need to know, for maximum comfy, add an F1 help, you click it, you get what you need to do and how you do it, simple, condensed, and clean.
any tutorial that takes longer than 5mins and is forced at each game start is a sin, don't waste people's time

>>180726620
>dancing around the issue
What do you suggest then ? They way I've done it makes it so that it's feels "fair". Pure strategy and no RNG,or the luck/risk is quite boring. What's the point when player would hesitate even on a 90% chance to hit ? I'd not call it misrepresenting but rigging instead. While you might disagree, I think it is better than the straight up in-your-face approach.
Strategy games aren't chess, as there's no hit/miss/crit/stats in chess.It either is, or it isn't. Comparing a strategy to chess could spell failure,however making it overly complicated with fuckload of gimmicks is also a crap tactic.
You need to make it just right, with enough thrill. Dunno about you guys but I love it when my 1hp unit crits some smug fucker at 80% hit and 20% crit chance. Some things are not meant to be so realistic. Imagine if stealth games had realistic mechanics, players would drop it in 5 minutes.

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Working on a new game. It's similar to Tropico but still very different. Basically you play as the school's "Student Council President" and you have to make the students happy and respect you, while at the same time you have to study for the exams yourself and maintain/improve your grades.
So far I've only worked on the AI of the students. If it's Class Time, they have to go to the nearest classroom to study. If it's Free Time, they have to work at a fundraiser to earn money, and when they've collected enough money, they go to the nearest Treasury to put all the cash they've collected there. When their Health is low, they go to the nearest clinic or hospital, and when their Fun is low, they go to the nearest entertainment building for their student type. When their health or fun is low for too long, they'll lose respect for you, and you need the students' respect so they'll vote for you in the next school election. There's a bunch of other buildings as well that does other things. When a student has nothing to do (when there are no buildings with free space for them to go to), they just "wander" around randomly.
Almost everything you see right now are placeholder graphics because my artist is super lazy. Right now I'm just balancing stuff, changing the numbers, etc.

>>180727594
what makes it different from every other sim game? The newgrounds-dating-sim stuff on top isn't too thrilling.

If you actually make it a dating sim on top people will probably like it.

>>180727579
>What do you suggest then
design a game that's fun without RNG

>>180727174
If your game can be replayed, just have the tutorial in a seperate "Prologue" that doesn't have to be replayed and isn't connected to the rest of the game.

>stayed up all night making videogames
>schedule now thoroughly fucked

worth it

>>180727174
As >>180727569 said, do not do a Pokemon and make them skippable.

I've seen some games, mostly older ones, where you have tutorial without having a tutorial; the level design forces you to learn stuff or get stuck within first 15 minutes of the game or so.

>>180727761
That's a good way of doing it, like in deus ex.

>his "Tutorial" isn't based on his games story
>his tutorial doesn't introduce the player to the mechanics and world at the same time
>his tutorial doesn't cleverly allow the player to view what they'll get in the future by having a an interesting climax of some sort at the start

It's like you don't want people to be entertained in the first few minutes of your game

>>180727715
Well like Tropico it's gonna be mission-based, so there will be a story and some characters. Each time you start a new mission you'll start from scratch again, and there will be different objectives per each mission.

>>180727594
it's a neat concept but for the love of god make a grid snap feature, there's nothing that makes me mad more that a city builder without snapping to a grid, i like to align things perfectly.
i don't know how a student council president can build those types of buildings tho.

>>180727819
>where you have tutorial without having a tutorial;

But that's literally impossible to do in most RPGs where the game mechanic aren't intuitive or as simple as "double jump by pressing jump twice"

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>>180727408

Yeah, I agree with this, but some games are just too complex to 'learn things yourself'.

>>180727504

It isn't as complex as EU4, but there are a lot of unique systems that haven't been done before in games. The UI is also unlockable, so the player literally starts with an empty screen. It might be confusing for new players, if they don't know how to activate the UI.

>>180727569

It is skippable. I didn't really want it in the first place, but we needed one due to the complexity of the game. I like your F1 idea. I'm going to include that into the final game.

>>180727761

Yeah, that's what I did. The tutorial is a prologue and is separate from the main game. If you start a new game on a fresh install, there is a message 'Do you want to do the Tutorial first?', otherwise there is a separate menu button for tutorial. So generally, players won't encounter it again after skipping the first time or doing it once.

>>180727983
Well I'm not really going for realism lol. I didn't even research what a student council actually does. I just wanted to make a Tropico-based game because I've been really addicted to the series recently.
And I guess I'll make a grid-snap feature, not really that hard to implement.

>>180725660
I think that the thing people dislike about RNG in strategy games is that one HAS to get everything perfect - the implications of failure are simply too harsh. That is where I think the frustration stems from.

Take for example XCOM. Failing a shot can mean losing a valuable teammate, which can mean losing the missions, which can mean the losing of funding from a region which can mean not being able to complete the game.

If the tactical maps were swarming enemies and there was no way to win a tactical map, then the only possible way to end a mission would be to run away. The strategic decision would then be to retreat sooner or later. Since winning was never an option, then "not winning" is not that hard of a blow to one's ego.

Also, if a teammate was downed, the team should have been able to carry the downed dude to the escape zone. And then that teammate would be patched up in the base. That would have eliminated the autistic desire to restart anytime anyone got any damage.

TL;DR - let the random chance affect the possibility of winning. Don't let the random chance affect losing. Loss of something should never come from RNG.

>>180727761
do this, and if anything needs to be explained later on in the game have it be an option if it's explained. Like "would you like me to explain how to use this move or unit? yes or no?"

anons, would you like :
>cybernetic implants and augmented humans
or
>normal human in huge mechas
In a futuristic and relatively "cyberpunk"(I hate this word)

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>programming on windows

>>180728404
Normal lolis in huge mechas

>>180727174
Just make it fucking optional.

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OK IM GETTING FUCKING MAD

I HAD TO REFORMAT, IM TRYING TO INSTALL ANDROIDWORKS FOR MY SHITTY MOBILE GAME, IT REQUIRES VISUAL STUDIO 2012-2015, I CAN ONLY GET 2017, AND MICROSOFT WANTS A FUCKING SUBSCRIPTION FOR THE OLDER VERSIONS

WHAT THE FUCK MAN. CAN I SERIOUSLY NOT GET 2015 VISUAL STUDIO? I CAN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE. WHY DOES ANDROIDWORKS NOT SUPPORT THE LATEST SHIT

OH MY GOD IM MAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>180728436
>Make it optional
>Retards leave negative reviews "HURR I HAV NO IDE HOW TO PLAY DIS GAME" after they skipped the tutorial

Yeah, don't make it optional the first time.

>>180728283
yeah, thats part of what I mean, especially in games like fire emblem where a bad roll of the die means you lose a character for good. But since I thought of something more strategy orientated I thought that having something like RNG would only make it worse since you can plan and plan but then have a miss ruin everything.

>>180728109
Just give the player a slideshow of concept art as a tutorial.

Seriously though, complex games with tons of things going on have super boring tutorials. You should do the very basics then throw them in the deep end with a F1 help menu as >>180727569 said

Like what every 4X game does.

>>180728404
>>180728416
should've installed gentoo

>>180727408
>learning stuff yourself is fun
for me its the complete opposite
i find that I enjoy the game when relevant information is relayed to me
by that I mean:
>tooltips for each number and stat having a breakdown detailing what causes them to have that number
>vague explanation text in these tooltips to get a direction as to what it influences and how can I improve it in general
>my actions in gameworld should convey understandable feedback (like shooting a dude with a fireball and instead of a damage number floating off a word "Resisted" floats off)
>be actually worth to learn (no point in figuring stuff out if its strickly optional and makes things harder for me)

>>180728558
>especially in games like fire emblem where a bad roll of the die means you lose a character for good

Fire Emblem is all about never putting yourself in that position in the first place, if you have to leave your fate to RNG, then you made suboptimal choices leading up to that.

>>180728503
have the important things built into the game, with an option to skip it all. Like have a prolouge but have the option to skip the prolouge in the pause menu somewhere. Or if you don't want to do that, if they choose to skip something important have a second dialouge box say something like "Are you really sure you wanna skip this? it's important information?"

>>180728589
whoopsie
>>180728404
was meant for
>>180728486


>>180728404
What I meant to say to you was
> just robots fighting
have the humans telecommute. Realistic AND original

>>180728659
yeah, I meant as an example, since thats the first thing that popped into my head where something bad happened has big consequences that also has RNG.

>>180728435
I was gonna make augmented humans and shit, but rest assured, there were lolis then too.
I have taken this oath, no matter how many games I make, no matter if they're shit or fun, if there's one thing that won't change, its that there will be at least one qt loli in my game.This game is a little dark themed so sadly no lolis in mechas, but I assure you there will be in the other game I work on ocassionally.
>>180728486
ask torrent and ye shall recieve,unless you're a good goy

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what type of language should i use to code?im relativley new to coding, using unity to try and make a low poly FPS

>>180728404
I would like
>normal humans using huge gadgets

>>180728283
XCOM is a special case, it has a negative feedback cycle, as you said, you miss you lose a teammate you lose the mission, and you might lose the game, that can easily be avoided if consequences aren't linked, you lose a mission then you lose the game, there's no need to keep going further the spiral because that will be only the longest way to lose, you can also balance failure by increasing advantages, if missing is bad, then you need make critting more important and more often (only for the player side), you can also reward the player for earned wins, if you've won a mission with one soldier standing, there should be a reward to negate the loss, for hardcore players you can turn all that off in higher difficulties.

>>180728818
depends on how dedicated you are. C# is easy enough and it goes fine with unity.Also,
>unity

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>>180729189
>unity
i just really dont like UE4, dont know why, ill give C# a shot

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>>180714102
implemented objective markers, juicy healthbars, character darkening and a fading effect for transparent buildings (healthbars and darkening not in the webm)

i also have a video showing new area types that 4chan won't let me upload as a webm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFwN2E-dUhQ

>>180729374
Looking pretty smooth.

>>180729374
>objective markers
y tho

>>180729308
I don't see why would a person dislike UE4 and prefer unity.
But, not gonna start enginewars, just stick with c# or it'll be useless.Oh, and read up on various algorithms, techniques make all the difference. An engine doesn't define the game ultimately it's you who can give it a new twist. Don't crap out on studying as much as you can.

>>180729560
how else will the player know where to go and what to kill

1000 shaders down, 5,587 to go..

My character dodges further diagonally in ue4. Please, how can I stop this?

>>180729632
Try context clues and in-game explanations. See: any game without stupid GPS shit

What's more important for DD15, content or polish ?
Because I've got neither and can only focus on one.

>>180729793
Graphics

>>180729793
Which is more important for a released game?

>>180726590
So the jams works more on the discord than here?
Pretty sad... The discord isn't somewhere I feel good to be...

>>180727174
A good tutorial isn't something that have a length. Take a look at portal for an exemple: the whole game is a tutorial, nobody complain.
Make your game so the gameplay feels fluide or understandable from start, and the tutorial won't be needed.

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>>180729752
How does your dodge work? Application of a force or what?

>>180729767
>See: any game without stupid GPS shit
every modern game has objective markers gramps
>>180729793
gameplay

ideaguys help me out here

which of these features is the most important for you in a menu basedspace RPG

>ship - fighting ship battles, hauling stuff with ship, upgrading ship
>party - having shootouts with buddies, buddies having their own mission of sorts, dealing with the mess they create
>narrative - overarching plot
>places - being able to visit different kinds of places, experiencing the world, "see that mountain, you can climb it"
>side-activities - being able to encage in activities that contribute little to the central point of the game
>stat building - increasing stats and skills of oneself and teammates
>custom character creation - choose the species, background and stuff

>>180729848
I'd say content is more important. When talking about polish, I'm talking more about graphical polish, adding small things in the scene so that it doesn't look just like a bunch of boxes.
Gameplay polish is as equally important as content, no point in having a thousand levels if they're shit.

>>180730107
>>custom character creation
easily this, how else will I make loads of OCs for porn?

has anyone here used gamemaker's built-in special effects? how are they in terms of look an performance?
>>180730107
>menu basedspace RPG
the CoC dev is already making one of those

>>180729835
the graphics, thats really what it's all about

>>180730076
>every modern game has objective markers gramps
stop playing AAA garbage

>>180730258
>the CoC dev is already making one of those
TiTS is mostly porn though. And kinda shit in the gameplay department.

>>180728818
>im relativley new to coding
make something simpler first

Something you can finish in a week, then make something you can finish in a month. Even if you run overtime make sure to finish. Building discipline along skill is very important on this industry. If you get started with an overwhelming project you're going to drop it and start something else. And never finish anything.

Good starting projects are pong, breakout, asteroids and other really simple games.

>>180730332
>stop playing AAA garbage
shadowrun returns did it so i'm doing it
>And kinda shit in the gameplay department.
it's a menu-based rpg lol
>>180730354
terrible idea, just follow tutorials for the game you want to make then gradually start implementing your own shit

>>180720750
hes a pretty big guy

https://clyp.it/5eq1vt2w

>>180730174
>used gamemaker's built-in special effects? how are t
it doesn't really have "fuckable" alien waifus besides humans
and those "unfuckable" alien waifus that it will have, are constrained to one or two 200x200 pixel character icons. assuming you are not able to jerk off to written description

>>180730258
>the CoC dev is already making one of those
its fine, my targeted niche doesn't have a single overlap with their niche

>>180730614
UUUU

>>180730676
shut up maria goddamn it

>>180730662
You'd be surprised, even starbound has porn.

>>180725463
Would it actually be such a challenge performance wise? What if I just run the script that determines the action for the following second each sec?

Wouldn't that get the compromise between performance and real time?

I also believe that Real Time with pause would be easier to program, as you don't have to manage a turn order or anything like priority lists. Just a tactical pause button. Am I missing anything?

>>180729752
looks like you need to normalize dodge direction and multiply it with distance, if you're doing something like :
if (key_right) : x += 10
if (key_down) : y += 10
when pressing both buttons it will be moving a distance of 14 (+vector(10,10))

>>180730662
if it's popular it has porn, hell even if it's not popular it has porn. porn artists will draw everything and everything, they also like to race to see who can make porn of something first.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139542651/bokube

you can do it!

>>180725463
>however, turn based system is easier to program the AI to. each agent is gonna act in turn afterall. In real time implementation, the AI algorithm has to be effective enough to not kill the computer when running each frame for every actor and real time environment also introduces several new strategies that turn based environments don't have
I haven't tried programming any turn based AI yet but doesn't it boil down (in a really basic way) to just analyzing the situation (current HP/MP, player HP/MP) and taking decisions based on that + a random chance ?

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>>180730058
It's a launch character node and I'm just multiplying the forward and right vector of my character by a large amount that's scaled with the
up and right inputs.

I wish there was a subtract node that'd always subtract towards zero so if it were negatives it would actually add instead of subtract.

>>180730930
>it'll be on the switch
wait, how hard is it to make a licensed game for a console? Do you just need to pay for the license and get official approval from the company?

>>180730802
>I also believe that Real Time with pause would be easier to program, as you don't have to manage a turn order or anything like priority lists.

Managing turn order and priority lists is as easy as pissing into the snow when compared to programming the AI. If you are able to program the AI, then programming game to work turn based is really easy.

In programming AI, priority lists are the main things that feed you. You might even make priority graphs and priotity maps. When programming AI, you will be programming how the gameworld affects the priority mechanisms of an actor and how the actor then acts according to the priority scores.

>>180730934
No. What you mentioned is the most basic,not-fun-to-play-against type of AI.
Ideally you'd want to implement multiple mechanics like the AI deciding based on the number of allies and enemies(the player), the distance between them, type of attack to be used, whether to split up or gang up, to move or wait for the player to come close,who to attack, to eliminate the weakest first to thin the numbers et cetera. AI is indeed the hardest part in coding, "analyzing the situation" is a statement which greatly over simplifies the whole concept. It's like saying "isn't gamedev just,like, make game with sprites and shit ?"

>>180731079
I suspect the problem is your forward and right vectors add up to more than 1. Try adding them together, normalise them, then multiply.

>I wish there was a subtract node that'd always subtract towards zero so if it were negatives it would actually add instead of subtract.
You could make one. Use a select node to check if it's >0, then add or subtract depending on that.

>>180730802
>>180730802
>Would it actually be such a challenge performance wise? What if I just run the script that determines the action for the following second each sec?

If its a small script then it has minimal impact. However a thing as simple as pathfinding will have an impact on performance if ever actor is doing it every game "tick".

But you should really try it out yourself, how it works for you. There is no greater teacher than personal experience.

Also, you can reduce the amount of thinking actors through clever tricks. For example, putting 4 soldiers into a squad, where only one soldier pathfinds, others will just use "squad attraction" to stick near the path finder or to shoot at the same general direction as the "leader" squaddie is shooting at.

>>180730934
it depends, if each unit is independent then it's just "find closest player unit and attack", but if it's squad based it will be more complicated, since the former strategy may win you the turn but may be bad for the squad, if units need to take positioning into account it will be even harder, the ai will need to choose the best unit layout even if it means taking hits early on.

>>180731312
>>180731472
>"analyzing the situation" is a statement which greatly over simplifies the whole concept.
Hencewhy I said "in a really basic way". I'm talking about even simpler gameplay, like in an SMT where movement isn't taken in account. Which I assumed it was what we were talking about, I should have read more.

>>180730859
>>180731404
Thanks so much! This is a lot of info to work with!

>>180730759
>>180730862
its a bit scary to be frank

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> progress
too hungover to do real progress. givin out game keys an chattin on /v/, gettin some good feedback a lot of it positive but i dunno if thats cuz i gave the game for free or because its actually fun, we'll see

http://store.steampowered.com/app/337290/Still_Not_Dead/

>>180730034
dunno but that looks sick

>>180731617
I see it the same as fan art. Someone actually took time to incorporate your work into something else, meaning that it's something they like (probably).

>>180731595
>bokube_being_bullied.webm

>>180731595
what did he mean by this?

>>180731595
i didnt need this sad right now

>>180731595
link

>>180731470
>>180731472
>>180731472
>>180731549
This is some good food for thought.

Which are your opinions regarding a hybrid system like the one from breach and clear? You decide the actions for the next turn (5 seconds), then all the actors perform them simultaneously in real time.

I found it intriguing.

>>180730567
>shadowrun returns did it so i'm doing it
>game I like did this retarded thing that totally takes away from the RPG and adventure aspect of it
>I'll do it too!
Great reasoning.

How about thinking for yourself for a second and seeing why GPS features are usually detrimental to game design?

>>180732050
view?i=487_1457090676

found it

>>180731595
>chinks
These people are not human.

>>180731595
unity_dev_tries_c++.webm

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>>180731986
pls rember that wen u feel scare or frigten never forget ttimes wen u feeled happy

wen day is dark alway rember happy day

>>180732134
>game I like did this retarded thing that totally takes away from the RPG and adventure aspect of it
more like the only marginally successful topdown rpg did it
>How about thinking for yourself for a second and seeing why GPS features are usually detrimental to game design?
they're not though

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Daily reminder that your game will never be a bigger failure than pic related.

>>180732060
>breach and clear
haven't played it, but the closest equivalent that I can think is Hostile Waters or Republic Commando(it did it really weakly when compared to Hostile Waters tho)

It was REALLY fucking fun for me.

>>180732450
It does bring me some peace that no matter how bad my game does, it will never be at the bottom of http://www.homph.com/steam/ since Googem exists.

>>180732450
>$5
>people still bought it
I thought I was being a jew for aiming to price my game the same but now I feel better, thanks anon.

Anyone here developing with Unreal Engine using Linux?

>>180732704
We're not THAT autistic, anon.

>>180732134
>How about thinking for yourself for a second and seeing why GPS features are usually detrimental to game design?
not really

it comes down to the focus of the game

if the game is about action&shit then the context "why" is pretty optional and thus GPS is mandatory
if the game is less about action and more about indiana jones style puzzle where half the fun is finding the goal then GPS is detrimental, since it circumvents half of the game

>>180732134
it's completely legitimate for character knowledge to be exposed to the player via the ui. if the character is supposed to know how to navigate the area, the ui should provide hints to the player, just like you're given a ui element for ammo without needing to count it yourself in hour head. something like shadowrun is not about exploring an alien planet, it's a bunch of street thugs in their natural urban environment, so there's no reason why the player should be "discovering" where shit is in the city.

not to mention that something like shadowrun is just a pile of 2d art assets, 95% of which are purely decorative, and they need ui elements to direct you to points of interest so that you can avoid horrible crap like clicking on 20 different computers in fallout 1/2 in order to find the one computer that actually does something.

>>180732704
Anyone using linux for dev here is a guaranteed nodev.

>>180732976
i'd say that anyone using linux is THE nodev

there is literally no reason to put oneself in a position where one has to be a OS engineer foremost to dev apps

>>180732704
Godot is your only choice.

>>180732743
>>180732976
>>180733103
Ok...
I just hate to reboot every time I switch between deving and dolphin porn, but it's not an actual problem in the age of SSDs.

>>180733103
the hell are you even talking about? if you use libraries like sdl or whatever there's nothing different about coding your game on linux. yeah if you did it from scratch by interfacing with the os directly it would suck but windows isn't any better in that department. the answer is to use a library.

the actual reason devving (a desktop game) on anything but windows is retarded is that 99% of your users will be on windows and the rest are an afterthought.

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This was way more time consuming than I thought it would be. Yeti needs a roar animation to make it complete still.

Also the runes will be placed around the level. One is placed next to the cave so players get its purpuse, the next ones are hidden behind paintings, in chests, in a snowman (you have to destroy it first), etc.

>>180733724
wat game? looks dope

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>>180733826
It's called Jim the Dim Reaper. We don't have a site or anything yet but you can follow it on Twitter: @CowardCreations

when programming in C# in Visual Studio, how do I ensure that the final build has all the API's I have used?

Does the compiler automatically include all the API's in the exe?

>>180733669
Thanks to your posts the other day I started paying attention to what I eat. And exercising more.

O- One day I'll be a healthy dev!

>>180733907
is this similar to haunt the house? or is this just one part of the game?

any gay devs here

>>180733724
this looks fun, i like how much content you have and the artstyle is nice, how many levels you will make?

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>tfw making indie game so I can gather funds to commission art for my dream porn game

SoonTM.

>>180734137
yes

do you want to touch my reflection probe

>>180734236
>freud
is it about a mom and son?

>>180734236
Doesn't it work better the other way around?

>>180734259
i have a fetish for breaking gay people's necks and masturbating over their dead body. what is this called

>>180734387
being gay, you're masturbating to gay people

>>180734387
homo-icidal necrophilia

>>180733669
>can barely do 30 seconds
I gotta start working out.

HOW DO I STAY MOTIVATED TO MAKE PROGRESS, AGDG? DO YOU GUYS KNOW ANY MENTAL TRICKS TO KEEP ME MOTIVATED?

>>180733907
oshit u made uncanney, i liked that game think u gave it me for free. wats ur name on steam, ill giv u my game (http://store.steampowered.com/app/337290/Still_Not_Dead/) i think i got u in my pals list.

game looks sick do u just like haunt people and shit?

>>180734593
dont make ur dream project. make what u enjoy making.

i dont like making levels but i like coding new features so i jus make a fps roguelike i can constantly throw in new features and weapons, and not make levels. i did the art and sound in a way where it doesnt take long to add new shit (weapon icon, and the actual fps weapon are the same sprite)

so yeh thats how i do it.... i really wanna make a narrative horror game, but i know i wont enjoy making it so im not gonna make it lol. its a shame but whatever

Is there some property hidden in AIController or Character Movement in UE4 to limit movement to only the direction the actor is facing in? Right now the AI vehicles are doing some tokyo drift shit, going sideways while slowly turning towards the movement direction.

>>180734593

Discipline yourself, motivation juice get old

>>180734732
I've already made so much progress on my game though, there's no turning back now.

>>180734748
>Discipline yourself
I don't know how to do this.

>>180734491
homoicidal neckrophilia more like

>>180734279
Among others.

>>180734285
I care more about the quality of my dream porn game, so I'm keeping it for when I have money and more experience.

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> trying to explain relative velocity in 3 dimensions to your programmer

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>>180734109
It's part of the game. You are a reaper, main idea is to kill targets without them escaping the level. But you can scare other people. There is a global panic meter. You can scare people, but panic will raise. This makes it easier to kill targets (since other people will not intervene) but will spawn special enemies and if panic is too high, targets get spooked too. So it's risk reward.

>>180734181
Original plan is to launch the game with 10 levels that are very different (will post a few). After that we plan to release at least 3 levels for free additionally.

>>180734617
Yeah, I gave lots of codes here when it was released. My steam name is Karl Toffel, check if you have me on Steam.

>>180735338
added now

shame ur not doin another horror game, i feel like u probably learned a lot from the first one

>>180734593
you need the juice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP-AbRTYNhI

and a dog as sidekick.

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>>180735338

>>180734828
keep track of your devving time and use stuff like pomodoro timers

>>180734828
>I don't know how to do this.
remove or get away from any distractions

a recovering alcoholic wouldn't surround himself with booze, or live close to a bar

find what distractions are making you lazy and remove them. if you're playing games or watching anime too much, remove them or set aside a schedule when you'll allow yourself to do it. I usually play games only in the weekend to reward myself.

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>>180735430
Yeah, not just making a horror game but making a game in general (it was very buggy, had pointless mechanics). Everything is a lot smoother now.

if bokube fails there's no hope for me

>>180734387
self-hatred

>>180735219
>not having an absolute frame of reference
the bane of programmers

>>180735630
don't believe in bokube, anon. if you won't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you!

back to tactical rpgs, should it be :
- player turn > guest turn (if any) > enemy turn ...
or
- fastest unit > fast unit > slow unit ...
the way i'm implementing it would work both ways and i will only need to add a speed stat to units, but i feel the second one would complicate ai

Getting back to the RNG topic, what do you think about the effect of RNG through skills the player can unlock. I don't mind being punished by RNG (that's life) but I'd like to give the players the option to reduce its severity.

Thoughts?

>>180725660

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>>180735219
>he makes 3 dimensional games

>>180735703
pics of you smiling and giving a thumbs up or I will not believe in you either.

>>180735729
do you mean giving them a move with low accuracy but high damage, or low damage but high or perfect accuracy?

>>180735729
A lot of RPGs have a 'Luck' stat which gives more favourable rolls.

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>>180735741

>>180735741
https://youtu.be/C-T4VVZrmkA?t=7s

This is me and that other poster

>>180735709
>each unit has initiative stat
>each unit gains "initiative" to its movement pool every time anyone starts a move
>after each turn, the unit with the highest accumulated initiative score gets to go next
>after each turn, the unit whose turn it was, its accumulated initiative score gets reset to 0

>>180735893
Chuck Norris is a devout christian, he would never dabble in filthy Japanese heathen Drill references. You fucking nisemonogatari!!!

>>180735338
seems neat

>>180735729
if you mean
>skills modify the RNG of actions
sure, different squaddies can have different specialities through that

>each time a char levels up, the RNG chooses 3 random abilities from a pool and presents them
it could be good, but is pretty unorthodox

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>>180735741

>>180735703
okay i believe in you

>>180735872
Yes, but if everything is rolled for, isn't Luck OP unless it's weak? And if it's weak it defeats the purpose of making it seem more fair to the player.

>>180735836
Actually thinking about a global perk that increases chance to hit after a miss. Even more after consecutive misses. The objective is to cater to the RNG haters without handing them victory without struggle.

I'm thinking that adding the misleading % mode would work fine, as this seems a can of worms.

Telling the player he has 80% chance when he has 90%, and so on.

>>180736252
so RNG via passives that they can choose over something else?

>>180736252
If you're putting stats into Luck then you're not putting them into other things like health and damage.

So players can choose to have a low chance to land their 1000 damage attack, or a high chance to land their 200 damage attack.

>>180736252
>Actually thinking about a global perk that increases chance to hit after a miss.
Paradox games use that alot.

The chance of something is 1/2000 for a tick. At the next tick, it is rolled. If roll fails, the chance turns to 1/1999. If the roll fails for the next 1998 ticks then the next one is 1/1 chance and that roll will succeed no matter what.