/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

http://positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2017/06/23/your-indie-game-will-flop-and-you-will-lose-money/

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been a while since I got to start off a thread on one of these

First for killing the fucking chicken "meme"
Reminder that memes are socially adopted inside jokes and not just you shitposting with the same theme to your faggotry for any prolonged period of time
Reminder that 90% of the "memes" in agdg come from one person

>>180650071
I still do not understand what those mind-control potatoes do

>>180650071
why did you game flop?

Just imported WorldMachine terrain in UE4 for the first time and accidentaly set the scale to 8km x 8km. Looks cool as fuck.

>>180638232
KILL IT

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139542651/bokube

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>>180650106
only true oldfags remember this maymay.

>>180650341
KILL
IT
jk good luck bokube

12th for respect your parents

>>180650298
he's right.
that's the concept of viral marketing.

make your game a walking meme.

Downloading bokubes KS demo now and it better be optimized or else.

>>180650183
they make the enemies in the aura shoot bullets when they die

>>180650209
what would you define as a success?

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>>180650341
>blurry gif on the presentation page
This is not a good idea.

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17th for our lord and savior gogem, he who will deliver us from the tyranny of Steam!

>>180650658
take into account how much hours did you work in your game, divide your profits from that, make more money than minimal wageslave rate in your country.

>>180650478
You can't force a meme. It has been attempted by every TV show and piece of media since the fucking printing press, it's not a new concept, memes are always formed organically. Only ultra tier mega autists don't undersatnd this because they've never been part of an inside joke in a social situation.

>>180650341
looks like those quirky PS1 games u used to get, like devil dice or mr.domino

music reminds me of Klonoa

good stuff

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Progress:
I figured out how to get perspective-based movement working in Godot, so now my FPS controller has Quaternion-based rotation AND you move forward based on the angle of your camera. Their documentation was terrible, but I was able to use it to figure out how the scripting in one of the demo projects (cubio.gd) was moving the character. It uses the basis of the camera's global transform.
https://pastebin.com/XFwCPqES

Next I might add jumping and sprinting, or I might change it from a RigidBody to a KinematicBody script. I intend for it to be a general-purpose FPS controller in the end (complete with a simple gun with a few basic firing modes) that I will post as an MIT-licensed asset at the Godot asset library, so if there are any features you would like to see in it, let me know.

>>180650298
EVERYTHING wrong with indie devs, like a toxin that spreads through devs as well ruining the attitude and joy of making games - is because since the indie boom everyone jus talks about money, success, sales..etc

fucking bullshit

just like make game

>>180650071
Your game is amazing, ignore the jealous nodevs.

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what are some team building games I can draw inspiration from?

Google only gives pic related.

>>180650849
memes are simply something people feel the need to share about becuase it amazes them.

https://www.amazon.com/Contagious-Things-Catch-Jonah-Berger/dp/1451686579

read that book.

>>180650732
It's not good so far, but
a) it's still selling (in fact, its still selling decently well)
b) we've got some stuff coming up

>>180650658
ah, I see

also, if it is not much problem, can you please make it possible to use analog movement+mouse aim? steam controller greatly benefits from

>>180650732
earning any money from your hobby is a decent step in the right direction, stop being a faggot

Alright going to ask a question again I asked last night: What's the best way in Unity to detect the end of an animation? In this case there's an attack which causes damage only when active, when the animation ends it should not deal any damage right. The animation could then end either by the attack finishing in which case it could be detected by an animation event. But what if the character gets stunned or killed? Then the "dealing damage" variable would still be set to true. I haven 't found a way of detecting an animation "cancelling".

godot 3.0 will save deving

>>180651038
>memes are simply something people feel the need to share about becuase it amazes them.
Then why do you think you can force people to be amazed with and share something? It's called being ham fisted and it's not good for a creator to do because it treats your audience like they're retarded and easy to manipulate and not all of them are, which will turn them off and make them correctly see you as a hack

Have any of you created a dark souls for mobile games?

>>180651083
how much did you make?

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thoughts?

>>180651083
link to your game?

>>180651226
you can trigger code functions on any frame of an animation in unity. its in the animation editor. toggle the hitbox using that

read the documentation...

>>180651038
>memes are simply something people feel the need to share about becuase it amazes them.
That's wrong, by the way. News is not memes.

>>180651289
read that book pls before talking shit.

>>180651236
There's no reason to wait. Just use Godot 2.1 and then switch to 3 when it's ready.

>>180651402
read the book.

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Added animation for when you exploit an enemy weakness for an extra turn.

It obfuscates damage numbers of front row enemies a little, so I'll have to figure something out.

>>180651430
which engines are the best ones if you want to make games for FREE

>>180651405
Why would I read some marketing gimmick book? I'm not trying to run a youtube channel and make shekels with views I'm making a game

>>180651516
cool.
why didn't you make real time combat instead of the turn by turn?

>>180651384
I know, that makes it possible to trigger an event during the animation. However if the animation is cancelled early, the event will never be called, if I'm not completely mistaken?

>>180651646
Because I'm literally stealing the SMT/Persona style of combat, I'm not too sure how that would work in real time.

>>180651616
>how do I market my game
>give me advice on where to shill
>why my X failed
>why nobody play my game
that book isn't about marketing retard.
is about why people share stuff (memes).

>>180651430
do you want to break your project?

>>180651741
you need to add a lot of style to make it cool. Make it edgy and shit
For the record, the combat was the worst thing about persona. The story was the thing drawing me in

>>180651038
>>180651405
>>180651497
>what makes things popular?
>what makes online content go viral?
This is opportunistic drivel intended to make money off morons who are think they will retire by making memes and viral videos. It's basic marketing ideas wrapped in "YOU WILL BE NEXT BIG MEME" hype for retards who don't understand how the internet functions socially. If you own a physical copy of this book throw it and yourself in the garbage.

>>180651793
Projects break all the time. It's not like you'll have a massive amount of shit done in the span of a few months (the time it will take for Godot 3 to come out), so porting over will be easy.

>>180651813
Really? I thought the story was pretty weak and predictable and only finished it because the Turn Press Battle is so satisfying.

To each their own I guess.

>>180651879
>hasn't read the book yet
>talk shit anyway
>too retarded to pirate it and read it

>>180651362
http://store.steampowered.com/app/603960/

>>180651310
Steam NDA, but 5 digits atm

>>180651772
>that book isn't about marketing retard.

>Contagious: Why Things Catch On
>New York Times bestseller and named Best Marketing Book of 2014 by the American Marketing Association
>Wharton marketing professor Jonah Berger has spent the last decade answering these questions
>Contagious will show you how to make your product or idea catch on

Yeah, not marketing at all.
>these are the "devs" in agdg
top fucking kek

Meet your average agdg "dev"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI8VdVUfZm4

>>180652084
yeah, because is used on marketing.

the book is about why things become viral.
read it.

>too stupid to pirate a pdf and read it on two hours

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>>180652062

How did you get so many positive reviews?

Congratulations though. Been following your stuff for ages.

>>180652274
>yeah, because is used on marketing.
Yes a book about marketing by a marketing professor named best marketing book by the american marketing association is probably used with marketing
You seem to really know what you're talking about, do you have a newsletter I can to subscribe to?

>>180652384
>How did you get so many positive reviews?

By making a good game?

>>180652432
Monolithdev, is that you?

Your game looks really sweet.

Gogem is the end result of a marketing and "muh memes" minded dev. Just make a good game you greedy gimmicky fuck and forget about the marketing for a minute.

>>180652391
the book is pretty good though.

>not simply reading it
oh, I forgot this is the general where people scorn at books like loomis to learn something.

bye

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Whelp godot masters, i'm working on a tactical rpg with an isometric map that has tile height, normally you'd expect higher tiles to be on top of the unit behind it, i have YSort sort enabled for the tile map, and the unit is a child of it, but i get stuff like in pic, when the unit is dead center of the tile, everything is fine, when it's moving however it will be on top of higher tiles until it reaches the next center of the tile, i do know the source of this problem, basically half offset and YSort don't work well together, the sorting works from the center of the cell regardless of the tile sprite, so when a unit is moving its Y position will be bigger than the half off sett tile until it gets behind another tile.
this is driving me crazy, is there a better way to do this? i wish there was a possibility to change the Z order of individual tiles, and i can't have multiple tile maps because i'd need 12 (one for each tile height).

>>180652551
Does he work in marketing, by any chance?

>>180652551
Googem is the end result of someone who doesn't actually like games making them.

That's why all his "games" have negative review scores.

>>180652663
>Googem
>Work

Why don't you guys make a game with RPG combat like dark souls?
I'm sure it would be popular

>>180652940
Dude, I'm literally making a 2D Pixel Soul-like right now.

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>>180652940
I'm making Dark Souls except it's not Dark Souls at all. It's a pretty promizing concept.

>>180651813
The highest difficulty made battling in Persona 3 very satisfying. Didn't grind much either so I had to switch personas often.

>>180653036
lol'd so hard at the end.

Any of you faggots run into a problem where overriding UE4's AActor::Turn and AActor::LookUp stops the attached camera from rotating?

>>180653101
>>180653000
how can you make a 2D dark souls?

>>180653243
Zelda II

>>180653243
It's not like Dark Souls uses the 3rd dimension at all in it's gameplay 99% of the time.

Can replicate the gameplay pretty well in a top down game.

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Anyone else doing FrogJam?

>>180653319
well it doesn't use the y axis that much unless you're fighting a boss that jumps but....
backstabs and strafing are used alot though

>>180653637
>backstabs and strafing are used alot though

Which can be done in top down games, as long as you allow the player to go through enemies with the dodge or something

>>180652432

How long did it take you to develop, from inception to completion?

Solo project or did you have a team?

>>180653198
Have you checked whether the thing you override was rotating the camera directly or the desired rotation instead?

I want to stop drinking and eating fast food but I can't

>>180652546
That wasn't me but this is. Thanks.

>>180652384
>>180652432
Sometimes the answer really is that easy.

We just need to convince more people that it /is/ a good game.

>>180653678
oh that's right.
I didn't consider top down games.

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Goals now show a preview of the next level, including the position the player will be in when entering it. I will probably add something similar to the level hub too.

>>180650071
What was this game called again?

>>180654013
Rustled Sanchez

why people doesn't make no more isometric games?

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>>180652237
>AGDG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-5kvqZBRVg

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This is how peak dev performance looks like

>>180654213
A S C E T I C

>>180652601
I think that will pretty much always happen in 2D.
The origin point is what matters here. When the unit's origin.y < tile's origin.y it is behind the tile. Otherwise it is in front. There's a an option to change the Tilemap's tile origin, you can try to mess with that to get it better.

>>180654108
they hurt physically to make

just nonstop fuckery with the code, the art, and everything

>>180654213
and yet he talks like if he's some master developer.

the definition of dunning krugger.

>>180654307
why not use unity?

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http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/19689352/rivals-major-league-soccer

how's that pixel art coming along, anon?

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>>180654108
Mine was originally isometric, but it wasn't fun so I changed it.
I really dig isometric in simulator games and such, but for other things it's not ideal.

>>180653749
i want to drink n eat more fast food. lets switch lives like the movies.

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Both character creation and menus are functionally pretty much done.
Gotta prettify them at some point but for now it's good enough.

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>>180654729
Also character creation features a couple of orgin stories you can choose from

Next up: Save system.

>>180652237
it's sad that there are people this old yet this delusional

"uhh yeah I'm gonna make an open world building game with an indestructible spawn hub, and I'm calling it an MMO for no reason, rate my idea"

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Thanks for the rotating enemies idea of the last thread

>>180653826
I am always intrigued by your stuff man. About knowing the position, does it impact the player's strategy, do the levels have multiple entrance/end?

>>180654278
tile origin only affect where it will be drawn from the center of the cell, either way tilemap use the center of the cell for comparison.

>>180654879
>>180654729

Good stuff.
How far are you from release? Do you have an estimate of how much longer you need?

Will you do early access while you add content or is your release going to be content complete?

>>180655029
I like the style of your stuff, when are you going to start adding gameplay?

>>180654729
>>180654879
Good stuff man

>>180654959
>it's sad that there are people this old yet this delusional
There are ideaguys who have been in agdg for years some of them around 30 years old. It's a stark reality.

>>180655175
I'm working on the encounters at the same time, there's just nothing to show for now. After monday I'll have more time and will have something more solid (probably with some very basic AI but still).

>>180652237
I can't tell which is more retarded, the kickstarter dude or the one making fun of him.

>>180655183
>>180655068
Thanks!

Full release is q4 2018
Open Alpha release will be soon (tm)

Probably autumn though

>>180652237
oh it's another i'm some teenager whos got it all figured out episode.

>>180655396
Cool, looking forward to it.

Forgot to say: the rotating enemies would probably look better if the little spinning spheres rotated in the opposite direction.

>>180654879
>YOU GREW UP IN A BAR
Best childhood, A+ parenting right there

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Some people are retarded, so I'm making a tutorial for retarded people. I hope this isn't too complex.

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>>180655029
The positions won't matter for a normal playthrough but when you start a level inside a gray block it will be deleted permanently, which opens up secret paths.

I think the level in the pic is a good example of that, the blue area in the bottom right is the starting area.
Normally you only see the vertical portion of the level, but if you touched the goal in the previous level from the top left position then the top left block in level 1-4 is deleted, which opens up the horizontal portion of the level, which gives you more boxes to play with which lets you touch the next goal in another position, and so on.
I will also be adding some secret rewards like audio clips and such.

I also positioned the goals so that there's never a "wrong" position to start in to avoid frustration.

haha take THAT UNITY

>>180655585
good idea, thanks

>>180655878
I see, pretty cool feature.

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>>180655634
In a world that's essentially steam punk Dark Sun growing up in a bar is probably a pretty good childhood.

I plan to include a couple more "iconic" origin stories at some point.

>>180656515
also custom creation of course.

>>180655930
what?
Unity is great

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Anyone here got some unused sprites? Would you like to see them in a (free) game?

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>>180657064

>>180657449
Those are some nice sprites! Where did you learn to draw like that?

>>180657860
loomis

>>180651348
It still looks good, though I thought you had demo'd everything I see in that webm in previous webms, so if there's supposed to be a dramatic new thing then please indicate it.

>>180651348
did you make the potatoes spray out into space in all directions?

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Currently working on a soulslike horror game with 2 other guys and we're looking for an artist
Its our first game if your interested to help up send me an email

[email protected]

>>180658646
Are you the guy that posted the Giger-esque ring in the current thread on v?

>>180658891
nope

>>180655457
you, for watching it

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progress.

can i name my company huge faggot games or something?
how do you legal

>>180659580
Sorry but it kinda looks like a mecha Patrick without eyes.

>>180659619
It'll depend on your country, probably not.

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>>180659580

>>180658646
Got a webm?

>>180660084
fuck you.

I love it.

>>180659580
Too organic for a hard surface space ship. Need more hard edges and creases.

>>180660203
I have no clue what I'm doing sorry.

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>>180652062
I just got back to agdg after having been gone for a while, didn't know you published your game! Can't wait to play it.

>>180660314
>KiD
You're gonna regret it, even at that low a price.

https://godotengine.org/article/progress-report-april-may-2017

>>180660283
google "smoothing groups"

>>180660376
Haven't hit the button yet, why do you say that? I thought it was just your average beat em up but with a cool aesthetic.

>>180660510
how that will help me with unity?

Guys I can make a ball roll around on unity

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>>180654013

>>180660587
It will help the lighting not hit your ship as if it were one contiguous organic form, such as a starfish.

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What are some good resources for learning about turn based 2d grid systems? Similar to the kind of grid and player navigation of Advance wars and fire emblem heroes?

https://twitter.com/remwhat/status/877857838684545024

>>180660774
ok

>>180660517
The game looks like it has a lot of moves but it only has like 5, and of those 5 there are 3 that are just different forms of "mash X to attack". The overwhelming majority of combat will just be mashing light attack until you need to dodge or block (doesn't matter which you do). The shooting quickly becomes obsolete thanks to abilities you can unlock that make the game even easier, and you have to do a really boring series of minigames if you want to unlock different types of guns. The story is nonsense (not like in a Killer7 type of way, but an actual "this is fucking nonsense that goes nowhere" type of way).

It's shallow in every way, even moreso than the average beat em up. Virtually the only thing it has going for it is the aesthetic.

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>>180660126
>webm?
We dont have gameplay yet
We have some level design,music, an inventory system,story... Were looking for someone to do some sketches to help guide the dude that does the 3d models.

This is the the starting area

if I were to make an Arabian Nights inspired RPG, where the villain is based on Mohammad and the emergence of the Muslim religion, how fearful should I be for my life? would I have to in hiding like Salmon Rushdie?

>>180660875
>NES has non-square pixels
what?

>>180661165
Depends on the country. If you are in the US of A then you should be ashamed for even feeling the need to make such a post.

>>180654536
>bangkok
>church
>pick one
looks pretty I'd play it

>>180660453
>tfw I could theoretically die in a freak accident before Godot 3.0 comes out
This alpha needs to come out already!

>>180660842
Learn A*. There's probably a tutorial for A* in every language/Engine out there so you're in luck.

>>180660982
Oh, thanks for the heads up. So is it more akin to God of War/Dantes Inferno than DMC or Bayonetta? Cause the former does get old pretty quick.

>>180661165
You're not allowed to depict muhammed in any way according to islam. Then again as long as you don't openly announce you're the one who made it and put your adress on the store page, the fuck are they going to do about it.

>>180661331
https://twitter.com/reduzio/status/878685834647613440
https://twitter.com/reduzio/status/876619069935558657
https://twitter.com/reduzio/status/875533535205052416

man, godot seems already better than game maker.

>>>180647508

That is really good looking, anon. Keep working at it !

>>180660842
http://www.redblobgames.com/pathfinding/tower-defense/
http://www.redblobgames.com/pathfinding/a-star/introduction.html
http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~amitp/gameprog.html#tiles
These helped me a lot when I was making a turn based tactical game.

>>180661447
It's substantially shallower than even GoW/Dante's Inferno.

>>180661447
Suda 51 makes some of the most shallow actions games out there.

>>180661471
what if I put my name as Ryan Jake Lambourn?

>>180661479
>It is finally possible, in 3.0, to use a single-texture tilemap, enable filter on it and not get bleeding between tile edges.
Fucking finally.

>>180661724
better start shilling godot baby.

>>180661348
>>180661495

Thanks anons

>tfw published my game and getting invited to the secret agdg discord with all the popular kids

>>180662145
Oh, so you're a nodev.

>>180655810
how can people tolerate ue4? introducing blueprints has fucked everything up and it's all confusing and vague and poorly documented

>>180651226
>>180651739
So make your stun/death animations start with event that disables all attack hitboxes and what else you need to disable like player input.

>>180662320
They're better developers than you

>>180662370
sepplesfags are subhumans

>>180661572
>>180661637
Shit. Well thanks guys, you've saved me 3$. What about Hollow Knight then?

>>180662320
UE4 has incredible documentation. I learn so much about best practices reading through it. What exactly is giving you trouble?

>>180662449
You don't even need sepples

>>180649924
Thank you for believing in me, even if you are a baka.

You aren't real coders. You just type down scripts that you've memorized and shit into an engine that's prebuilt.
You don't create your code from scratch. You're not creators. You're just like people that mod stuff and play around with map editors

WE

>>180662785
ARE

>>180662883
MODDERS

>>180662883
NODEVS

>>180662702
t. still working on making his box collide with another box

>>180662702
>You're just like people that mod stuff and play around with map editors
You mean like the people who started IPs like Counter Strike, Team Fortress, Dota?

>>180662479
Hollow Knight is a great Metroidvania.

>>180662479
Hollow Knight is great totally get that one

>>180662481
who thought making your users write games with a node editor -- and not giving you the option of just writing all your code in an editor WITHOUT ANY involvement of, or accommodation for, blueprints -- was a good idea? and who thought that giving classes hundreds and hundreds of methods was a good idea?

i miss id Tech 3

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I suck at 3D lol.

>>180663752
why not 2Dev?

>>180663426
>You mean like the people who started IPs like Counter Strike, Team Fortress, Dota?
yeah they were cucks desu.
They build their games on top of existing used ones.
They use used goods

>>180663831
I suck at everything lol.
pls god kill me.

>>180663752
That already looks a lot better honestly

>>180663712
You have access to the source code. You can literally do whatever you want.

>>180662320
It's very simple.
I can't fucking code.

>>180662702
>muh code
this is agdg, not amateur coder general

>>180663712
I like Gamemaker2's blend of nodes and code.

>>180663752
You biggest problem here is the texture actually

>>180662702
ummmm not quite swewytie,,,
im making my own language xx

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>>180663752
Don't put hard edges everywhere, they should outline the parts where your geometry "breaks" and it where it starts being a new piece. I'd do something kinda like pic related. (hard to judge entirely on one picture)

>>180664197
Agreed. At that polycount, some of the details could be actual geometry too.

>>180664291
>rebuilding the wheel
sure smells like nodevs in here

>>180664016
yeah great i'll just rewrite it to not be AIDS, brb

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how do I start just like making game?
physics, networking, movement, player input, art, menus?

>>180664659
i'm not rebuilding anything, all languages are shit

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>>180664571

>>180664817
floor
character on screen
input + character movement
then you can post a webm and forget about the game like everyone else does here

>>180664817
If you actually want to make a game start with the gameplay. If you want to pretend you're making a game start with the menu.

>>180664817
start with the credits

>>180664817
don't

>>180664817
start with the patreon link in credit

>>180664817
I don't know, starting with networking seems good to me.

>games made with godot don't exist they said
http://store.steampowered.com/app/652610/Stick_Nightmare/

>>180664934
Oh well, I guess it fits with the "rushed assets" aesthetic.

>>180665251
>let me pick one exception and prove them wrong
You're just like that faggot who uses RoR as the best game agdg could come up with which is sad.

>>180662479
A whole 3 dollars, wow. I guess you would rather feel smug about saving the sum value of half a sandwich than form your own opinion about something. KiD is pretty responsive and fun if you want another worthless two cents on the topic.

>>180665251
Next goal is to not look like shit.

>>180665598
fuck off grasshopper employee

>>180665598
>I guess you would rather feel smug about saving the sum value of half a sandwich than form your own opinion about something

Be it 3$ or 300$, I rather not waste money if I don't have to. Didn't mean no disrespect.

>>180664817
>physics
Handled by the engine.
>networking
Mostly handled by the engine, but this is definitely the hardest to work with, avoid multiplayer games until you're good at gamedev.
>movement
Simple math
>player input
Handled by the engine.
>art
This can take some time to get good at. Go for a stylized approach that doesn't require amazing art. Most important thing is to keep all the art consistent, and keep the colors consistent.
>menus
Usually fairly easy. Depends on the engine you use. Godot makes menu creation dead simple

Stop thinking about it and JUST like make game.

>>180665748
>stop thinking about it
How will he make is GDD or at least plan his features then?

>>180665926
Worst meme in the history of game development.

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>>180665989
>having a solid documentation is a meme
yeah deving on a whim is a good idea anon

>>180665598
>3dollars for half a sandwich
>6dollars the sandwich
wtf 6$ that's literally 4 days worth of food.

>>180665989
its like you never worked or something. Go in any game, or even software companies and try to do anything without documentation. Well you wont because you need a solid plan, its not like you're going to do all the features at once and flawlessly.

>>180666173
>>180666448
No, I mean the meme of doing all that shit before you start actually making anything. A GDD is great for when you've been making solid progress and want to put together a plan to FINISH the game. It's worthless for starting as you want to be able to just try shit.

>>180666194
Do you survive off rice like a chinese peasant?

>>180666479
> A GDD is great for when you've been making solid progress and want to put together a plan to FINISH the game
hem...
>It's worthless for starting as you want to be able to just try shit.
oh okay, I get your point. You're talkign about someone doing his first project who dont know yet what he want. But if its not the case, then doing a GDD beforehand is the way to go. You can still (and should) adjust it as the game progress.

>>180666641
>doing a GDD beforehand is the way to go. You can still (and should) adjust it as the game progress.
That doesn't make sense. The point of a plan is to stick to the fucking plan, if you anticipate having to change it then don't make it.

>>180665740
Last post on this from me but if you thought it was worth the value in the first place then why listen to anyone else? Not saying that you should or shouldn't get the game but without actually playing it you'll never really know if your evaluation was right or not. Hell, you could even just download it and pay for it later, if you like it, for all I care.

>>180666628
Yes. Rice is cheap, tastes good and fills your stomach. You can even throw some eggs or some meat once in a while to improve the taste.

Stop being such a spoiled rich kid.

>>180666750
Anon things happen during a project. What you plan may need adjustments

I've just been away from gamedev for a long while due to the war. I forget what order to do things in. I don't want to start something only to realize I need another part of the game finished first.
t. cart before the horse

>>180667041
Why plan, though? Once you've got your gameplay and art style and whatnot down then you start your GDD so that you don't keep tweaking things forever.

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* Made it possible to inline dialogue forks within a single dialogue outcome (to reduce boilerplate files needed for short, self-contained forks. this picture is pushing it a bit for the extent I'd like them to be used - anything this big or later should actually be in separate files and using the attributes{} block matching stuff to / requirements {} fork on.
* Made message{} block run asynch(lock-step like a coroutine with the main thread) to allow you to place stuff like setClothesOn(Panties, false) within a message chain and have it happen in that order.
* Schools! You can enter schools again, and instead of being an empty black vortex like last demo, they're actually decorated inside and have multiple levels now, gif related
* Lolis are registered in a specific school (the one with the closest untaken desk right now) and have their own specific desk in a classroom. So instead of standing inside the middle of the school-vortex like in last demo, they standby their very own desk. I'll have them do an animation of them working once that's drawn later, and going to the washrooms if they have to go, etc. (which could be an opportunity for kidnapping! or just watching the cuties pee...)
* Various loliscript stuff (like weighted choosing), and improved building editor. I guess players don't care, but anyone who wants to create scenarios/dialogue will!

>>180666995
Stop shitposting and get a job/climb the trumpwall

>always bitched about certian parts of certian games felt rigged as a kid
>"that can't be true anon, it's not like the creators just want you to fail anon,"
>tfw I'm currently being a huge cunt and deliberately misleading the player into doing something that results in death
I knew I was right

oh boy here we go

>>180658337
+ enemies can patrol
+ inventory system
+ depressurization mechanic is refined and bug-free
+ air mechanic (you need air to breath, a room can have no air if you break a window but you can equalize the air between rooms by opening the doors (pretty much like FTL))

>>180658619
if by potatoes you mean guns, yes

>>180667156
can't believe you have been making this game for so long

>>180667156
>* Made message{} block run asynch(lock-step like a coroutine with the main thread) to allow you to place stuff like setClothesOn(Panties, false) within a message chain and have it happen in that order.
Nice, I've been harping about using coroutines for dialogue for a long time.

>>180667141
>Why plan, though?
I'm not sure how to express myself properly without doing an essay. Lets jsut say that if you dont plan your basic class structure at the very least, and the various systems you will need for everything to work and interact properly, then you will probably have the re-code things all the time.

How do I figure out how often I need to give the player New Shit in a heavily proc gen SRPG with perma death? The game is divided into 8 parts and each part takes 20 minutes to get through but a reward every 20 minutes sounds too infrequent.

>>180667568
That's the stuff you should plan out the least!
https://mollyrocket.com/casey/stream_0019.html

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Some progress on level 2.
It's not as hard as it looks, I swear.

>>180666909
>Hell, you could even just download it and pay for it later, if you like it, for all I care.

Which is what I normally do, but I already have a pretty big backlog. I'll probably play it at one point, but it's less of a priority now.

Now, back to deving.

>>180667805
Looks really cool! My only gripe with it right now is that it's hard to follow your red ship in front of a red background. Maybe add a black outline or something, but for a game this frantic being able to easily spot yourself it important.

>>180667693
>That's the stuff you should plan out the least!
As a software engineer (finishing around christmas), thats literally 75% of what we're doing: learning how to properly manage/plan/etc. I pretty much have to do some coding on the side because I dont have to do much in class since I'll have code monkeys later on for that. So yeah I'm fairly biased

>>180668379
Sorry to hear that.

>>180667805
>>180668304
Same opinion, it looks good but red on red is really fucked. Maybe a darker shade of red in the back or a different tint ?

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>>180668304
>>180668495
Thanks anons!
There's options for visibility sort of thing, and the ship changes color depending on the shot type. Ideally it'd be right the first time, so I['ll mess with the color warmth in the background some.

>>180668760
Great, looking good anon.

>>180665251
steam direct was a mistake

>>180668304
>>180668495
The ship doesn't even bother me, I mean you don't lose your ship because you're always looking at it. What I do think is a bit visually confusing is the fire/explosions, I'm assuming the fire from the bombs hitting the ground, those spiraling things and the orbs that shoot flames at you are all harmful, but the explosions from enemies dying isn't, and they look pretty much the same. I could definitely see myself running headfirst into those after getting used to filtering the explosions out as harmless.

>>180661170
NES itself had square pixels, shit was stretched on TVs to fit 4:3

>>180668438
yeah its a bit weird, but still feels less weird than a friend who did is bac in Game design and now works but know absolutely nothing about coding.

>>180650071
just bought your game. Good luck with whatever you're doing now.

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Why do I need an account to use an engine?

>>180669523
Don't ask so many questions.

>>180669523
Because you need to pay if you make too much money, or get paid if you release assets and stuff

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>>180669523
>he felt for the Unity meme

>>180669523
you don't?

wtf are you trying to do

>>180667156
that's some really advanced math for a bunch of lolis to be learning

>>180669319
No offense but making up class diagrams or APIs or whatever without any actual implementation isn't programming either.

>>180669701
University lolis, all characters in this game are over 18

>>180667156
Honestly, I'm a bit afraid of this amount of autism and degeneracy.

>>180669928
>all characters in this game are over 18
well that's boring.
dropped.

>>180669676
idk mang I just installed unity free and that's what appears on the screen when I open it how do I skip it?

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>>180669095
It probably looks so similar because it's the same sprite. I'm guilty of this in a couple places.
This was because the explosion sprite also works pretty well as fire and they both act pretty differently, but that might've been me assuming too much about players's ability to catch on.

>>180670027
I don't know man, you probably should Go for the .

>>180667693
>>I always begin by just typing out exactly what I want to happen in each specific case, without any regard to “correctness” or “abstraction” or any other buzzword, and I get that working.

Literal Pajeet.

>>180669992
Its but a taste of what's to come lad

>>180670561
>I always begin by writing classes and method signatures that do nothing and call it a day since writing actual code is hard and I'll probably have to change the classes since it's highly unlikely that I can model the system accurately without actually writing any code :(

>>180670561
>college CS grads

>>180667156
Keep it up man. I just hope you get some better looking sprites though.

>>180669992
>>>/r/eddit

>>180669523
Pick the offline choice you dumbsrept

>>180670561
Pajeets love that OOP bloat, though.

>>180670948
because OOP is just POO backwards

Damn it, I bought monolith and I'm getting a black screen, but can hear the background music and apparently navigate menus!

>>180670948
The mentality of "getting something working" without any regard to correctness is what makes it pajeet-tier.
OOP does not even matter that much: having correct and testable code does.

>>180671095
so this... is the power... of gamemaker

>>180671176
If it works, it's correct. And there are more ways to determine correctness than unit tests.

>>180671176
>getting something working
sounds more like TDD to me

>>180671179
I'm guessing it's my Nvidia trying to shove AA into 2d games again... we'll see

>>180660842
>fire emblem heroes
>heroes
You mean fire emblem, asshole phoneposting newfag, I bet you're underage

>>180671176
>>180671287
Also, Casey doesn't say anything against unit tests. If you have a piece of code that you want to test, you then put it into a function or whatever because otherwise you'd be duplicating it. So I don't see the problem.

>>180671345
If he was underage he surely wouldn't know what an Advance Wars is ;_;

>>180671095
Vsync is at fault.
Switch it to windowed with either alt+enter or go into the ini in appdata to turn it off.

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>tfw you get ideas from anything
>can't even dev with music because it makes you want to start another project
I hate being an idea guy.

>>180670817
Hey man, I think you posted a wrong link, it says "nothing found" when I go there. :P

>>180671287
"Works on my machine" and "almost no crashes" are not good enough, Pajeet.

>>180671478
yup, solved.

>>180671478
It's the game's fault if it defaults to fullscreen v-sync with knowledge that it might cause a black screen.

>>180671345
Fire Emblem Heroes is honestly pretty fun. As long as you don't care too much about what heroes you get.

It just sucks that FE Heroes sucks down my phone battery even when I'm not playing it.

>>180670830
where is that option? there isn't any in that page

>>180671614
>what are proofs

>>180671630
It's the engines fault for that happening in the first place.

>>180671604
>tfw just gradually changing what my game will be as my interest changes, so long as I can reuse assets

>>180671645
>fun
a word used by casuals who have long lost the way of gaming and try their hardest to justify their shit tier games but the truth is that these games are the cancer killing the series.

>>180671791
If so, it's the developer's responsibility to be aware of such faults.

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I got the object pool for the AI ships up and running. Sets all the values by picking randomly from a bigass list and spreads the ships around the waypoints. Now Im thinking about how I can generate trade missions. Maybe just iterating through the nodes in a random direction until it hits a port, I dunno.

>>180671920
Oh, so you're just autistic then.

>ue4 environment tutorial
>final result looks like a piece of shit
Damn, I spend literally hours every day in search of good sources

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>>180671853
Can't do that when you're making a physics based game, then want to make a mecha game, then some medieval action game, and then an RPG, all in the same day.

>>180672080
I kinda understand. But I'm not (yet) looking for how to make it look good.

>>180671990
very nice

>>180672080
Post it and I'll tell you what's wrong

>>180671853
go away yanderedev

>>180671994
>anyone who doesn't agree with me and my shit taste is autistic
whatever lets you sleep at night
"fun" just might be the most offensive words right beside "comfy" when used in a vidya context. disgusting,notice how only the most casual would cite "fun" as a reason for playing a game.

>>180672338
you must be fun at parties

>>180672223
I just dropped what my original idea was going to be. Maybe your issue is that you have a good attention span? I'm just spasticlly replacing ideas, not making some huge mishmash.

>>180672251
I had a giggle, but no

>>180672427
ur mom is fun.

>>180672492 (Me)
>but no
"no" as in "no I'm not yanderedev" of course, not "no I won't go away"

>>180672559
You could say you had casual sex with her

Congrats, Monolithdev. I'm playing for 10 minutes and your game is already more fun than binding of isaac or rogue legacy.

>>180672641
>fun
fucking casual fuck reeeee

>>180672427
Textbook reddit response. Why am I not surprised

pantsu witch is a shit premise!

This >>180672641
Not a fan of this genre but I definitely enjoy more Monolith that Binding of isaac.

>>180672764
Because you're from reddit?

>>180672771
is that like a sandwich with underwear in it?

>>180672641
Games are not meant to be fun.

>>180672825
>reddit humour

>>180672492
It's just that I really want to finish a game, so I'd rather stick to my idea and finish it. And I'm having fun with it too. But I really have way too many ideas at the same time, and most of them probably aren't that good.

>>180672926
>games are not meant to be fun
here's (You)

Congrats, Monolithdev. I'm playing for 10 minutes and your game is already more COMPELLING than binding of isaac or rogue legacy.

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>>180670830
Thanks unity

>>180673084
The smug attitude in the pic is the quintessence of the Unity community

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>Godot can't handle mouse input and keyboard input at the same time

Holy fucking shit, is this annoying. Why do we even like Godot again? Is there even a way to fix this bullshit? Please tell me there is.

>>180673426
Have you considered PEBKAC?

>>180673426
>>Godot can't handle mouse input and keyboard input at the same time
>Godot can't handle mouse input and keyboard input at the same time
Lies.

>>180673426
Wha? It can, you're doing it wrong.

Gamemaker Studio > Godot
Gamemaker Studio < Godot

Which one and why? Only maybedevs and above should reply.

>>180673084
>:P

>>180673843
>maybedev
Nothing :: Maybe Dev

>>180673843
apples to oranges

>>180673971
>>180673942
I said ONLY maybedevs and above are allowed to reply. I dont see you two in these categories.

>>180673843
I used both and I prefer Godot.

>>180674063
t. nodev

>>180674195
t. nodev

>>180673843
this post is shit but maybedev could be a hot meme

>>180674229
You're the one who hasn't committed to an engine yet anon

>>180674229
t. maybedev

>>180674327
>he uses other people's engine
LUL

>>180674379
You just asked which one you ought to use

>>180673843
well, on one side you have a Maker. on the other side, a GOD. Which would you pick?I already made my choice.

>>180673654
>>180673697
Well, it doesn't for me. The cursor will halt if a keyboard key is being pressed at the same time.

Why can't Godot just process both inputs without one having to overshadow the other? I bet Unity does this just fine.

>>180674379
t. maybedev

what the fuck is maybedev even supposed to mean

>>180674519
>>180674173
Allright, I guess Gamemaker is the choosen one then.

>>180674519
On one side you have game, on the other ...

>>180674639
t. perhapsdev

>>180674590
you are doing it wrong maybedev

>>180674639
nodev