/twg/ - Total War General

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>>180601904
Thanks!

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History and fantasy living in harmony I've got nothing for you today. Go do harmonious things or something.

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>>180602118
Seconding this

>finished 2 Empire campaigns
>1 or 2 Vampire campaigns
>2 Dorf campaigns
>can't bring myself to play greenskins at all
fug

>>180601904
>not linking old thread

>>180544648

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>mincing intensifies

Should I pick up Napoleon? Wasn't too big on FotS, should I give guns another shot?

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>tfw playing Republic of Venice
>tfw Byzantine """""""Empire"""""" tries to bully me into giving hem my maps and 4400 gold

I'm going to murder them all again

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Goblin Dabbing

>>180602560
He's a chef?

Just realized I really want to play Rome 2 TW. Im a pleb so I like Rome 2 setting more than Attila.

Convince me why I shouldnt just buy Attila. What features make Attila better?

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Reminder that this is a history and anime general

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>>180601904
Rollan for legendary divine triumph campaign. Anything is fine except Slavs or ERE

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What do you think they are planning on doing?

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Looking for someone to play multiplayer battles with on a cracked copy.

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>>180602797
reroll

>>180602805
big party

>>180602947
kys

>>180602948
>Easiest faction in the game
Ok anything but Slavs, ERE and Sassanids.
reroll

>>180602717
both are worth playing, Attila is a bit of a downgrade in terms of setting but it offers more engrossing gameplay with the ability to raze settlements, towns deteriorating as they're sieged, family trees, etc. I also think the general UI and display is much cleaner and intuitive. that being said there is more civil management than R2 in terms of city sanitation/fertility/public order, especially if you want to play larger empires

>>180603137
play sassynids you fucking bitch

>>180602716
mincing also means to walk in a delicate/effeminate way

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>Nagash still not announced

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I love artillery ships

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>>180601904
i am so bored

new tw when

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>>180602685
>be Russia
>give Byzantines sorkel because I took pity on them
>immediately attacks me

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>this is fine

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Rise of the samurai can be fucking impossible.

Had a war domino effect where every clan declared war on me when I only had 4 provinces, included the two main factions who are meant to be fighting each other.

If I actually break free and conquer shit these are the rich lands I'll end up owning...

I think it's also the reason I've been able to start a rebellion in each province every turn

HELMAN GHORST.

So has anyone played rise of mordor yet?

>>180604182
whats the fucking point of a lotr mod if you can't play in middle earth?

>>180604457
I dunno i want to watch orcs get pin cushion'd

>>180601904
Is there a mod for expanding names of Lords/Heroes for the Empire? I have about 6 lords entitled "Wearer of Chains" atm

>>180604457
They are making middle earth though are they not?

>>180604743
you could just rename them yourself, much more personal that way

>>180605052
Good point, forgot you could even do that

>>180604794
no, it's custom battles only

>>180605664
dont think we are talking about the same mod buddy

>>180605762
it says campaign development in progress, but how they're going to mod the unmoddable campaign in attila is beyond me

>>180606009
they are sinking most of the map so its just greece germany and russia and turkey and then trying to make it resemble middle earth and they are importing custom models for maps like minas tirith and helms deep

is there a mod that allows me to rename legendary lords?

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CHAOS DORFS!

>>180606297
>let's reskin dwarves and call it a day
Classic CA.

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>be the burgundians
>migrate to black sea
>all relatively comfy
>see a notice that the sclavenians have been destroyed
>check map
>see pic related

>>180606297
>Radious mod pic
Kys
>Edgy dorfs
Meme army, at best they're O.G. Chaos units.

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>>180606502
> Dwarfs but spikier
> gets mad when they use Dwarf models/skeletons

About to buy TWW, what's the main difference between Empire and Bretonnia?

Also which race should I buy first, Chaos Elves or Beastmen?

>>180606645
Based

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>>180602805
Sassanid bully not so tough after getting raped

>>180606589
>Radious mod pic
???

I dont enjoy the Shogun II campaign. FotS campaign is fun though, but base game campaign is sort of infuriating.

>take a couple of provinces so that Im strong enough to survive and to have a decent chance to become Shogun
>people keep declaring war on me because mad jelly
>when I retaliate, I'm suddenly the bad guy and the cunt in Kyoto declares me a public menace.

This has happened thrice out of my four attempts to do this campaign.

Do I just need to blitzkrieg to Kyoto and hope for the best?

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>>180606779
Golems never ever.

>>180606952
Bret's are cavalry-focused and have different campaign mechanics. Empire's more well rounded
In my opinion, Beastmen>Wood Elves>Chaos

>>180607120
yes, if you take kyoto you can avoid that kind of stuff since all the clans will respect your authority as shogun

>>180606952
Bretonnia is focused on shitty peasant infantry and god-tier knight cavalry. They have no gunpowder units either.

Empire is the most versatile faction since they have decent infantry, artillery, and cavalry, but they don't really excel at anything.

>>180606952
Empire makes use of a lot of gunpowder and artillery and has fairly decent infantry, overall pretty balanced

Basically everything about Bretonnia is shit tier except for their cav which easily wrecks shop.

>>180606952
Pirate it all

>>180606952
Empire: Balanced renaissance forces with guns, artillery and central map position.

Brettonia: Feudal Knights with flying cavalry and peasant infantry. isolated and safer western starting position. Most recent faction so they have some updates that the empire dont.

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>>180607034

>>180607225
Oh, the way the victory condition is stated it makes it sound like you have to gain kyoto and all the other provinces(like ten or twelve others I think) as prerequisites to becoming Shogun. Here I was taking all the other provinces first and then racing against time to raise a big enough force to take down the Shogun.

Aka, I thought becoming shogun was auto-victory condition, not a state of being.

I'll try the campaign again. Thanks.

>>180607120
>playing as a clan far away from kyoto
That's not how you become nobunaga

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What in terms of pure gameplay features has been confirmed for TW2 so far? I know there's gate battles, what else?

>>180606952
Chaos have cool units but a shit campaign.
Elves are skirmish focused with parthian shot, most micro heavy faction beside brettonia. Decent mini campaign
Beastmen are charge heavy with vanguard options and minotaurs to crash through lines. Good campaign mechanics, mini campaign a bit bare bones but still good.
>>180607205 is right
Beastmen>Wood Elves>Chaos

>>180607582
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/6f4njh/compilation_of_all_tww2_new_information/

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After playing a bit of TW:W it's a shame that Dark Omen killed the videogame tabletop recreation for Warhammer really isn't it.

Since Dark Omen was such a piece of shit we never got any more Warhammer tabletop sims, and those could've been damn good. Shadow of the Horned Rat would've been great if it wasn't so terribly balanced and had terrible controls. Imagine a series of polished games like that using predominantly tabletop rules with online matchmaking. Could've happened.

Also more XCOM 40k. They should've done that too. Chaos Gate was underrated.

>>180607120
>Play Chosukabe
>Don't give a fuck and take everything to the west.
>win
What's not to get?
Take the top right province on the far left island and recruit bows from there and rape everything. There's a number of provinces before the realm divide, before you hit that, build your economy, position and rebuild your armies to autistic perfection and have at hit.

>>180607582

Naval battles

>>180607120
Haven't played base Shogun 2 but FotS always pisses me off because everyone and their dog all decide to declare war on me no matter how fat away they are, and then send their navies to pillage my shit, leaving me with an impotent army and no economy.

>>180607273
Battle Pilgrims beat out flagellents just for being smart enough to carry a shield, Squires are great if backed by a dead knight on a stick.

>>180606589
that's vanilla you dumb faggot

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>>180607392
>>180607034

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How I get good with Wood Elves? Do I go in Karak Norn and Skarsnik? Do I fight Carcasonne? What to do with Belegar? Should I fight against other Elves, because confederation looks unlikely?

>>180608659
If you are tree hitler, go north after skarsnik

>>180608452
Do you think any of them wanted to talk about the elepant in the room prior to battle?

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>>180607141
They killed the franchise before the Dwarfs could get crazier things, poor little midgets

How do you reorganize Unit cards in TW without moving out the units? Is that possible? Or at least how do you select units without selecting them in a row?

Say I have one cav in the middle, end, and beginning of the army how do I select those without selecting the units in between

>>180609776
I'm pretty sure you can click and drag the card to shift them around
Also, Control+Shift+G

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>be scared of this Minamoto stack for like 15 turns
>could only see that it had attack upgrade samurai and sword attendants
>used rebellions & geishas to keep it busy until I could try and deal with it
>finally get to it and find this...

>>180610293
This is why I prefer it when army banners reflect total manpower and not just the number of individual units in an army.

>its a legendoftotalwar throws an autistic fit about agents because the ai has finally found a strategy that he can't cheese against video

What a fucking retard

>>180603395
Is there a generator you keep getting these things from or something?

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>>180608943
They get plenty of retarded shit in AoS

>>180607917
Jesus Christ, why the fuck would you post that.

>>180611716
Why does this fucking game exist? Like Jesus Christ, does it have an audience or is it failing like it should?

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>>180611179
>pictured: legendoftotalwar with his beloved M2TW

why the fuck isnt chaos in the base game? im tempted not to buy them since the game itself is $20 and chaos alone is $5 right now on steam.

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>>180611837
to answer his question?
and don't start this reddit bogeyman shit

>>180611930
Its doing alright according to the notorious liars at GW. Seriously CA doesn't have shit on GWs contempt for their audience.

>>180611837
What are you, fucken dumb?

>>180612085
Unless you like an unfun slog, don't pay a cent for those chucklefucks.

>>180612132
Have you read the leaked employee guidebook from like 15 years ago? They have contempt for their staff as well.

So are regiments of reknown worth it? It seems too easy. Expensive, but not obscene. Max experience without trying, plus other benefits. Am I missing something or should I keep stacking these guys on Karl and shot stomping the computer when they decide to come out of their capitals?

>>180606779
Should be a unique garrison unit for dorfs.

>>180612410
does chaos have god specific units? if i cant have khorne warriors they can suck my dick.

also what DLC is good for atilla? i know i want age of charlemagne

>>180612648
Maybe a building you can put in dorf capitals that adds them to the garrison?

>>180612874

The only god specific unit is Sarthorael the Everwatcher, a changer of ways. Only playable in custom battles.

>>180612874
Only way to get god specifics is through mods.

>>180612570

Some are good to use that way, others are good to keep on standby until you come upon a situation where you would really need them to counter something else.

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>when your military ally drags you into a war, and then does literally nothing while the enemy only attacks you

every
single
time

>>180613201
>Military allies
heh, rookie mistake

>>180612874
>also what DLC is good for atilla

Charlemagne is a must-own, Slavs and Empires of Sand are great too. The Last Cuck is meh. Langobards and Vikings are only recommended if you like the look of those factions, otherwise I wouldn't bother

>>180613201

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=883866995

>increasing road development in attila changes the roads on the campaign map from dirt paths to roads paved with stone

Neato

>>180613379
are the celts not worth it? i was thinking vikings and langobards since muh germanic brutality, but i could get caesar in gaul instead for rome 2. is caesar in gaul worth it? i heard it was too short

>>180611837
>2 years ago there was still generals with red.dit links in the op
>suddenly its not allowed because of some migrating /v/ scum triggered about it

Goan fuck yourself

>>180613928
Again, it depends on the factions you like

Slavs and Empires of Sand gives you brand new factions with different mechanics, Celts and Langobards gives you more Germanic spearmen

If you love Germanic spearmen then go right ahead

>>180612570
Yeah, they're pretty useful. Especially if you're a savescumming whore and hire a lord for defense and need units fast.

>>180611179
Reminder that he was so butthurt he made this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv9fYQbCBUg

>>180613682
? It was like that since first rome

What's worse:
Brets going full peasant army and corner camping with ze lady.

OR

Ungrim Ironfist and 19 gyrocopters.

>>180614796
Tbqh i still think building slots and automatic replenishments are retarded

>>180614880
ungrim and 19 gyros is pure 100% unfiltered faggotry - bonus points if you hide him or place him in the corner so that anything attacking him has to blob up so they can get bombed

>>180612874
don't buy chaos warriors dlc, right now it's garbage

>>180614796
I don't have 45 minutes, what does the autistic australian do to make his point?

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>the varg are the strongest power in the world even better then archeaon
And now Norsca is getting a buff with a DLC.

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Flying norscans have the funniest faces.

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>>180615687
Just look at them

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>>180615838
And this isnt even from a knight charge just foot squires

>>180615687
>>180615838
>>180616010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvuL5jyCHOw

>>180615542
Well in their defense the Norsca DLC will come with an FLC that will probably unfuck a lot of what's wrong with Chaos so Chaos will be even stronger and so will Norsca

Enjoy

>>180615510
gotchya

>>180615542
>>180616136
Is it feasible right now to go north early and eliminate the Norscans so Archaon has nobody to raid and build up on?

>>180615537
Just gimping himself in vanilla M2TW to prove a 'point' about the new games, like using 1 general per stack etc.

>>180616136
sure, that's probably going to happen
but this guy shouldn't buy the dlc on what's /probably/ going to happen
I appreciate CA's desire to have chaos warriors playable in the base game, but I wish they had just waited until they could do them justice

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>>180601904
So why is Napoleon the best total war to date?

>>180617036
It's not, it's not even the best gunpowder TW to date

>>180616331
As brets its propably possible but hard as fuck. I tried and failed, but im shit at games

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>>180616331
That's what I just did in my Bret campaign. Started razing when chaos first arrived. Burned down 5 or 6 settlements before I had to go back to rebuild my forces. Lost around 18 troops out of 70. My next expedition will go on all the way to the errantry war quest site.

I'm using that map replacer and its really good. Only had one bad settlement map out of 3. And that was just because of bad spawns.

>>180617206
And which one is? Can't be that clusterfuck called Fall of the Samurai.

>>180618052
Does AI Bretonnia go on crusades or no?
> tfw Bretonnia gets the option to crusade Araby

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So, I just got Warhams a n hour ago or so. Only palyed three custom matches against normal AI.

First off: Where the fuck are formations? I want to put my cavalry into a wedge, I want to put my infantry in blocks of missiles first, swords second spears rear.

Second, I like that they included firing arcs for artillery. Helps visualize where you need to place your arty for max effectiveness much easier.

Thirdly, magic is fucking wonky. I dont understand it yet.

Also, why are there no actions for units to take? For example, why cant I form a shield wall with Empire Spearmen?

Another thing. I actually like the new General and Heroes system. All the items and powers you can give to your generals make them unique.

Overall, it's okay I guess.
But where are the fucking naval battles.

Pic was first match I played. I didnt know what was going on and I thought I was losing. Still getting used to the UI changes(they're subtle, but they're there. Mainly how it keeps track of unit health/numbers)

>>180618374
I've had a few campaigns where Bretonnia has purged the north. It's sorta rare though.

>>180618176
fall of the samurai

How do I get the Fall of Man quest?

Is it the Beastmen grand campaign? Or is it only for Khazrak or something like that?

>>180618776
Beastmen grand campaign.

>>180618494
>Pic was first match I played. I didnt know what was going on and I thought I was losing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRZ-IxZ46ng

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>>180618687

1-2 WRE
3-4 Huns
5-6 Norse
7-8 Germans
9-0 Celts

>>180619651
Do it for rome, anon

>>180619506
>>180618176
>FoTS is bad
>le spongeboob maymay

Back to /r/totalwar with you

>>180618494
>expecting greenskins to have or do complex formations
>when they think a flanking maneuver means attacking with a hip bone

Orcs without their DLC units are pretty gimped, base goblin archers are better than arrer boyz, use those boyz to protect the flanks of what ever goblin archers you're using, their savage versions may even be preferable to the normal ones due to frenzy, doom divers are a must abd trolls and giants can be useful, black orcs are one of if not the best orc units you can get so they should be worth their cost and never under estimate a shaman with foot of gork.

>>180618494
Oh boy.

>First off: Where the fuck are formations? I want to put my cavalry into a wedge, I want to put my infantry in blocks of missiles first, swords second spears rear.

Formations are kaput, save for the Bretonnian's cav wedge. You have to mod it in.

>Second, I like that they included firing arcs for artillery. Helps visualize where you need to place your arty for max effectiveness much easier.

oh god me too i use the area of effect alt fire in mass melee blobs and i love it

>Thirdly, magic is fucking wonky. I dont understand it yet.

I would need to dedicate one or two more full posts to help you out with this. Suffice to say you should read up on it, because magic can and will decide games. You've got shit that will debuff your enemy so hard they can't fight back, buff spells that make your tier 1 troops fight equal with tier 3 momentarily, direct damage spells of all flavors that obliterate units and disrupt formations, and Lore of Life/Vampires gives living/undead troops the capacity to regen HP or even resurrect dead troops.

The basic breakdown of the Winds of Magic in vanilla is this: you have a pool of mana you cast from, up to 30 stored charges; try to wait as long as possible and fill out the pool before you start casting. This is because there is a secondary pool, called the power reserve. This pool dictates how fast your main mana pool regens, but is also depleted by an equal amount every cast, i.e. you eventually run out. This is only scratching the surface of magic: go study up on it now.

>Also, why are there no actions for units to take? For example, why cant I form a shield wall with Empire Spearmen?

See point 1.

>Overall, it's okay I guess.
>But where are the fucking naval battles.

Yeah, a 6.5-7/10 at best before modding, and we'll never get true naval battles make peace with it now

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>>180619960
>defending is an auto-win, attacking an auto-lose
>naval battles are impossible
>artillery has no counter and can reach your whole deployment zone from the start of the battle
>no money at all/unit upkeep is insane
>Sieges are an auto-lose for the attacker unless you besiege for 6 turns to starve them out
>bows out range guns
>AI agent spams/money cheats like crazy
>the whole bombardment mechanic

What is it like having such poor taste?

I just got paid, so I figured I'd pick up both race packs for Warhammer. As scummy as the blood DLC is, I really want gore in my Warhammer game, but what I want to know is if any of the hero unit packs are worth it. Specifically the Greenskin and Dwarf hero, are they dope af?

>>180620509
The king and warlord dlc is a bit mixed.

The goblin lord skarsnik makes gobbo builds viable. But the dwarf lord doesnt add much. You do get some new units for both factions though

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>>180620509
Chaos warriors are horrible
Beastmen are bad
Wood elves are good if you like elves
Belegar and Skarsnik is the best one
Gelt and Kemmler is good if you like empire/vamps

>>180620321
Honestly it feels rather dull. Legit considering getting a refund.

>going north to attack norsca

It's becoming apparent just how much you're not supposed to do this. The fucking pace of them coming at you with full stacks, while also settling ruins only a couple turns after you raze them is fucking crazy.

>>180622019
That's just called buyers remorse though

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G O B L I N S

>>180622268
Yeah I think I'll get a refund. I find it kind of meh feeling. Back to Attila I suppose.

>>180622386
Again, buyers remorse. Happens with every big purchase.

>>180622386
Play the campaign. Custom battles are always shit.

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>>180622413
so are you saying dont get a refund

>>180622208

It's perfectly doable, but you'd better be real secure at home because yes you will need 2-3 armies for 10-20 turns to get it done right.

>>180622413
>£45
>big purchase

>>180622208

It's because both factions start the game with several ports. It'll take a long time to bleed then dry if you don't go for full annihilation.

Sometimes I like to destroy one of their southern harbors and keep a cheap army in ambush stance nearby to catch out whatever stack comes to resettle it.

>>180622682
>4.5 inches
>big dick

>>180622717
delete this

Will CA ever make decent siege battles?

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>>180622019
>>180622386
Well I won't be a dick and say you're being childish and judging the game based only on three custom battles, but you haven't the game enough of a run to even be "underwhelmed." I mean, you havent seen the campaign yet

>>180622916
haven't GIVEN the game

though we have lost it

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Fay enchantress is a dirty slut who fucked all the grail knights/guardians!
It's why they have such high loyalty!

>>180622881
They already did, they're in Med 2.

>>180623403
Funny joke anon.

>>180623403
Nice meme

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>>180623323
>you will never worship her feet

>>180623403
(You)

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I haven't played a TW game since Shogun 2. If I were to get a new one during the steam sale should I get Rome 2, Attila or Warhammer?

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>Surtha ek becomes LL
>Red skills give chariot buffs
>Mount is marauder horseman(Throwing ek)
>Special ability allows him to summon three units of chariots per battle
>Unique corruption mechanic where your population starts declining and full stacks of marauder horsemen spawn to represent your populous giving into his shitty meme.
>New "Asinine" campaign stance that builds his "Comprehension" meter
>When comprehension fills up beyond the meter a AI chariot stack spawns and follows him around.
>Chariot's are a currency that are required to build buildings and train units

>>180624001
Warhammer if you are fine with simplified stuff for cooler stuff. Also highly distinct factions.
Attila if you want a bit of challenge and want to keep things historical.
Rome 2 if you like that time period.

>>180602585
yes, but if you don't like guns or line warfare then why bother.

note that the cannons in napoleon don't have the explosive shells that the cannons in FotS have.

they only get them late in the campaign, early on you only get solid shot and then canister shot early on.

>>180623521
>YWN be a beastman and savagely rape her

>>180608342
you literally have to play every single naval battle to win fall of the samurai.

What is the best course of action to take when playing as the Empire? I feel like I've fucked myself up a little by confederating with Talabecland and conquering Ostermark shortly afterwards (which I did after Stirland called me in). Now I've got Gobbos to the south who have already sacked a settlment in Reikland while Franz was off taking Ostermark and I'm feeling a tad bit overstretched as I can barely afford two full stacks.

>>180608342
>>180624550
>>180601904
>>180618176
See
>>180620447
For why FotS is a garbage game.

>>180624804
You shouldn't ally yourself with any humies but Kislev later in the game.

Take out Wissenland to the south so you can slowly poke through VC territory while allying yourself with the dorfs.

>>180625208
So you mean I should conquer the other Imperial provinces and not confederate?

>>180625419
Yes, it also helps with quests so you won't get cockblocked by military access.

I don't invade Nordland though, they're a good buffer state and in most of my runs they build a decent stack to cockblock Chaos from sneakily dropping troops in the Wasteland.

>>180620447
>defending is an auto-win, attacking an auto-lose
attacking isn't auto lose, its very easy to win battles in fots.
>naval battles are impossible
naval battles are very fun, but you really need to get techs before the AI. its okay because the AI usually doesn't get them till mid way.
>artillery has no counter and can reach your whole deployment zone from the start of the battle
counter to artillery is artillery, also ambush horse troops. its worth absorbing some loses with some infantry to give the horses a chance to get in an waste artillery.
>Sieges are an auto-lose for the attacker unless you besiege for 6 turns to starve them out
again artillery, shoot them off the walls.
>bows out range guns
Sharpshooters, cannons
>AI agent spams/money cheats like crazy
yes, valid point
diplo is pretty bad too with very friendly clans declaring war out of nowhere.
>the whole bombardment mechanic
if you get knocked out of the ocean you're fucked since you lose your ports to bombardment. you almost have to fight every naval battle and abuse the repair button. also using navies to blockade choke points. to protect your land. but yeah too much stuff was too easy to bombard.


but other than that it sounds like you just hate the game because you're bad at the game.

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>>180625743
>you just hate the game because you're bad at the game.

n..no it's not that at all

>>180626241
Its okay

I understand

I'm actually save scumming a legendary game, only because I had just made a copy of the file since it was the furthest i've gotten in legendary as tosa. and I kid you not, 3 turns after i made that save, it was pretty much campaign over, it was a bad omen.
It was my sixth attempt this week and i had finally gotten to the half way point

Fall of the samurai is pretty unforgiving any mistake and it can punish you really hard. and auto resolve will fuck you over.

>>180601904
Warhammer unit sizes on ultra still seem too small for me, but the 150% unit increase mod drops my FPS by over 20.

What do?

Im not feeling wood elves early on. It seems like i cant make enough money to raise a 2nd army worth a damn and while i was able to cap some settlements they give me so little in return that it doesn't seem to change much. And of course its difficult to use any amber i get cause of how easy it is to kill off my outpots unless its the one my main army is close to.

I love playing them on the battlefield even with the more base units. But when im on the campaign map i just dont know what i want to do.

Am i supposed to sit around and do nothing for the first half of the game and get my amber though diplomacy? Should i hold off upgrading the tree of life and spend them on the techs instead? Once i get rolling im sure ill be fine. But its what i do in the first 30-50 turns or so that im kinda unsure on.

>>180627182
You need to sack to get money in early game, go norsca or badlands

>>180627037
Either use vanilla or get a better PC anon

>>180616252

don't listen to that anon. They're most likely at least partially improving the Chaos campaign when/if they do the Norsca DLC, which will be free if you preorder warhammer 2.

None of this is confirmed of course, but with all the info we have so far it looks to be this way

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So I got all of the DLC in the steam sale. Are there any tips for playing as; Beastmen, and Welfs? Like what units to build, what faux pas to avoid, what units to upgrade first, etc?

Lastly, did I fuck up by buying the DLC on steam, was it cheaper some where else cause this shit cost me over $30, while the core fucking game, is only $20. I feel tightly miffed about this purchase.

>>180628185
That extra ten dollars is probably going to CA making crazier content like the non-armybook race pack coming up soon, so it's not a negative in my book.

>>180628140
>Norsca DLC

Are they still updating TWW1 with content after TWW2?

>>180627614
But what about my gold per turn? Or do i just say fuck that and run at a debt while i raid and make gold that way for now?

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>>180628476

If you were trying to placate me, you had the opposite effect. Now I know I wasted $10 that I shouldn't have. $10 that could have gone towards game.

Would you feel good knowing you got jew'd out of $10? Info like that should be at the top of the copypasta.

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nice

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>>180601904
Daily reminder that playing TW games strictly vanilla with NO MODS is the patrician's choice.

bumping for interest

>>180602357
Rome...the ASININE MORTAL

>>180628737
yep

ROME NEEDS GOOD ________

>>180603448
Artillery ships really made coastal sieges a cakewalk though. I hope that with the next historical title (if they bring back coastal sieges at all) that they balance it so that the defenders have -some- way to strike back at coastal attackers other than just huddling up out of range of their artillery, because unless you had a very artillery focused garrison army chances are you're just gonna get bombarded to a pulp the whole battle.

>>180629321

top kek

>>180630520
Coastal batteries could definitely work in TW Victoria

>>180628185
As Beastmen rush for minotaurs, then fill out your army with them. When you get a choice of a free hero a few turns in choose Gorebull. Your income will be in the red, but you will be able to beat almost anyone with this army comp until midgame. Later get some minos with 2h weapons, the hound building (you will need poison hounds for Khazrak's quest) and the bray shaman building (you will need to recruit one for a quest). After that you can go mound of blades and then pile of flesh, then upgrade all buildings except the pile and finish with the desecrated altar.

>>180606185
I just wanna rename other factions' lords because for whatever reason I really wanna change Surtha Ek to Surtha Heck

>>180607974
I just want more WHFB games in the style of Mordheim: City of the Damned where you control a band of adventurers and such. Is Necromunda supposed to be something like that?

>>180624147
Not him but are there any good mods for Rome II? Don't say Radious

>>180613201
Military allies in the vast majority of the Total War titles (strategy games in general, really) are never a good fucking idea

What difference do the flying mounts in Warhammer make? Apart from the obvious "This fucker can fly now" aspect. For example, what difference does getting a pegasus make for Franz vs Deathclaw?

>>180631159
Divide et Impera if you're autistic

>>180631276
Flying mounts obviously allow the lord to move much faster and also flank enemies as they can fly behind their flank. It also allows them to fight flying units with melee. Better mounts basically just add health and attack power iirc and can also change movement/attack speed.

why exactly haven't the greedy CA jews made campaigns have more than 2 players for pvp campaign? what is stopping them?

>>180631354
Soooooo, there's no reason to not get the highest tier mount?

Would he still be able to plow through an entire unit like it's not even there?

>>180631427
>Soooooo, there's no reason to not get the highest tier mount?

Nope, aside from the fact that it costs a skill point which you may want to use on something else. I can't imagine what, but something to consider.

He'll be able to plow through an entire unit with twice the efficiency basically.

>>180631372
laziness

The amount of times the number 1488 shows up in my battle results is amazing, I mean what are the odds of seeing that exact number several times in a single campaign?

>>180631427
Also something to consider for certain lords is that getting them a mount at all (basic horse and beyond) turns them into a large unit, which means they can get their shit rekt by any anti-large units afterwards. Still worth it for the boost to speed alone IMO but if some lone shitty spear units manage to kill your general when you're not looking that's why.

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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!

>>180631427
Just for reference, you need at least one rank of the warhorse and pegasus to reach the next one, so you can't foot slog your way to rank 15 with Karl and then suddenly turn into a flying wrecking ball.

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fuckin wizards man

>>180631556
Considering it's probably the sum of a preset number of units based on a specific army composition not as low as you'd expect.

How viable is it to migrate in Attila with a faction that's not naturally migratory? I want to play Langobards and move to Spain.

>>180631276
typically the monstrous flying mounts will give lords better ap damage/health, as well as allowing them to cause fear/terror

>>180631715
With barbarian factions its pretty easy still. In fact factions like Langobards are somewhat encouraged to migrate.

Why there are no Death Wizards for the Empire? In TT game the Empire had an access to all 8 Winds of Magic.

>>180630751
Agreed, because at least there'd be coastal defense fortifications and such. The issue with Rome 2/Attila coastal sieges was that for most maps you could just park your arty in the bay and fire away while your army sat with their thumbs up their asses waiting for the enemy to be hurt enough to steamroll

>>180602518
i dont think youre missing much buddy

>>180631907
Probably no DLC tie-in to release the wizard. Like for the other wizards they released for free there was a faction being released with that same lore of magic. Would be nice to have death wizards though because they look dope as shit

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=952084679

Anyone tried this? Sounds great to finally know why you get the traits you get.

>>180632282
I'd just be happy with a mod that ditches the "Likes (faction that is your mortal enemy)" from the list of possible traits. It's even worse getting it on your LL

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Jesus man.

Ok, what do I do to this poor guy?

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>>180606297
>New diplomacy option: Oriental Bribe
>take control of any opposing army at the expense of global public order and some gold

>>180632282
Bretonnia already has that for the chivalric traits you can get, like [Win 90% of battles.] etc.

>>180632428
Castration. Better to be a eunuch and still able to fight than be blind and be trash in a fight

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The war against the sassanids continues - they have had 3 full stacks encamped between amida and Edessa for a while now, and in order to not risk losing a minor settlement I have had to form a sort of conga line, with reinforcements from Dacia finally allowing me to break the stalemate and push deeper into enemy territory. There used to be more Sassanid armies encamped in their little pow-wow, but they tried attacking amida and got btfo (>>180607034).

The 2 armies marked w/ red are my "guard legions", the Herculia and Iovia, which are the only armies that have Herculiani Seniores instead of Legio Comitatenses, and Scholae Palatinae instead of Equites Promoti. One is led by my faction heir, and the other is led by his brother

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>>180632467
OH SHIT MY SON

Fuck. Well, time to adopt Ybor.

>>180632715
Holy shit, dude. I forgot how unforgiving attila can be with its events. Hope they weren't a super good general or something.

>>180632831
Nah, he literally just came off age. He was my heir though, so if Lethuc dies right now I'm screwed.

Kind of a shitty way to go. "Here son, you're an adult now, go cut off this dude's balls and then die".

>>180632979
I'm glad CA included shit like this in Attila, though. Character stories like that really add to the charm of the game, which is why CK2 is so good imo

>>180633131
I'd love it if CA put CK style family lines and shit into a TW game, doubly so if it's a fictional setting so I don't have to get spergy about things not matching history.

>>180633216
I've always wondered if CA would ever go out on a limb and try to create their own fantasy IP to do Total War shit with, but there's a much bigger risk in trying to create a new IP over something established like Warhammer.

>>180631641
But you can start saving points from 13, so at 15 you get one rank horse, one rank pegasus, deathclaw. Don't fall for the armored horse and upgraded pegasus meme, and don't use the basic versions, cause they suck.

>>180633301
Yeah, I honestly think there would be a market for it but it's probably smaller than historical TW.

>>180633635
I'd just like to see them have an opportunity to really expand. They're obviously very capable of the creativity necessary to make good fantasy. Shame that history and WH are always going to be way more profitable.

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"My optometrist is going to be PISSED"

How the fuck am I meant to defeat armies in TWW if they constantly retreat away from me?

>>180634369
Hammer and Anvil

>>180634428
On the campaign map I mean. I've only got the income for one army and I've just chased a full Ostermark stack all across the fucking Empire.

>>180634369
Agents that reduce movement range, ambushing

>>180604743
Wearer of Chains is not a name, it's given by a trait

>>180634369
>ambush stance to lure the ai into your movement range
>misdirect actions w/ agents

The AI in TWW is way too skittish and tends to avoid battles that would be even/in the players favor, and really only like to attack when the odds are really in their favor. This becomes apparent when the chaos invasion arrives and you have to chase archaon down because his 3rd eye showed him a vision of him getting spitroasted by demigryph knights

>>180634596
Which agents are best for slowing down armies? This is my first actual campaign.

Who are you playing as?

>>180634845
Empire

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>>180632508
The ERE has done suprisingly well against the Sassanids, expanding from just 2 provinces in Africa to now holding Alexandria, the Levant, a majority of Syria, and all of Arabia Magna. Thankfully I was able to get to Ctesiphon before they could.

>that army comp
classic

>>180634796
>Empire
Witch Hunters
>Vampires
Banshees
>Greenskins
Gobbo Big Bosses
>Welfs
Waystalkers
>Dwarfs
Master Engineers
>Chaos/Beastmen/Brettonia
n/a iirc

>>180634845
Greenskins, but this is the weirdest game yet.

>>180634849
Empire Captains i think

>>180634596
>The AI in TWW is way too skittish and tends to avoid battles
This is probably one of my biggest issues with the game, and I know how to ambush /slow down enemies just fine. Really wish CA'd do something about it.

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>>180634879
I was finally able to surround and destroy the Sassanid get together, and am now getting into Persia proper. Thankfully the snow isn't as bad as it was in anatolia/armenia/the caucuses down here, so the campaigning should be much faster until we have to turn north again

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wtf does this mean and how to fix

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The Tyrannosaurus-Rex had feathers.

That is all.

>>180635412
It means the player statistics are unavailable and you need to find them

>>180635532
What looks cooler

>Giant lizard creature
>Giant chicken creature

???

>>180635532
Fake news.

>>180635532
Tyrannosaurus Rexes didn't exist.

>>180635532
>when you love science your whole life but it betrays you

>>180602518
>he doesn't play for achievements

>>180602805
Literally just spear squares, hilarious watching their archers charge in

>>180606536
You did ask to be a Sassanid vassal right
Just raze those geat settlements and then they'll die to attrition marching to your place

>>180636265
>geats
>winter attrition

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>>180635675
>>180635690
>>180635787
>>180635817

Scientists have known dinosaurs evolved from birds for decades, it only makes sense

>>180636394
>that image
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>180611930
Because peopls want it, the new CEO is great anyway so suck a dick you rebel

>>180612085
Why do faggots like you exist
You can play it without the extra units with a faction unlocker
CA has to make a profit on all the work they put into it, for time played vs cost it will be far less than £1 an hour

>>180636486
>>180636763
>shills
Stop.

>>180636434
rome?

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>>180606536
HOW have the sassanids not attacked you yet?
>Try my own migration campaign
>Settle in Scythia, minding my own business not really being a threat to anyone
>The moment i come into contact with Sassanids they declare war
>All of Persia just drops everything they were doing and march north to hunt some barbars in the frozen north

This has happened to me 3 times now-

>>180612874
No God specific units because they haven't finished the game, when they do you will have them, at the moment we have mods but it's just colour changes on warriors and red beastmen for bloodletters. We can't import new models to Warhammer only modify them but we can add maps which we can't do previously
Charlemagne is overrated, barely any units, blobs are established and follow historical trends almost to the letter

>>180613928
Celts, Germans and vikings just add to fifty shades of Barbara and are in the boring part of the map, apparat from burgundians which make all games new

>>180636884
>Charlemagne is overrated

What, not enough Danish Cataphracts for you, radious?

>want to use Cataphs southern realms mod
>requires some faction unlocker crap
>get it, it's all working fine
>The Empire is now just called "Reikland"

What the fuck

>>180636884
>historical game follows history

Wow

Does anyone know how to get sound in the background on total war warhammer?

Like if I tab out I want the sound to still play

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>First time playing as Empire
>All Elector counts being best buddies for some reason
>No one is fighting anyone
>Everyone except Ostland like me but not enough to confederate
>Mfw feel like a warmongering dick if i keep subjugating them by force

>>180637365
>keeping all those lesser lords
(lol

Keep Nordland, Ostland and Ostermark

Ally with Kislev

Everyone must be under Karl Franz

If someone wants to gift me King and the Warlord or Grim and the Grave I will LITERALLY post whatever body part you want me to in this thread. Open to other requests as well

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>>180636880
>HOW have the sassanids not attacked you yet?
long story

>Settle in the black sea
>Sassanids already at war with ERE
>Attack the ERE and spam agent actions against them in order to get the Sassanids to like me
>Give a shit ton of gold in gifts to the Sassanids
>Barely able to improve our relations from unfriendly to neutral I manage to get a non-aggression pact
>Thing is, the current Sassanid ruler has "hates rival empires", "progresive" and "unreliable" trait so our relations deteriorate quickly
>Somehow they never cancel the non-aggression pack
>Current Sassanid ruler dies and is replaced by pic related
>"reliable" "defensive" "traditionalist" and "tolerant"
>Relations go from unfriendly to very friendly in an instant (mostly because of so many agent actions against ERE)
>Offer them 10000 gold and joining their war against the Visigoths in exchange for a trade agreement, defensive alliance and military access
>They accept
Now we're good friends, all I have to do now is hope the next Sassanid ruler is not a cunt

But I do get the feeling I dodged a bullet

>>180637730

Proof you're grill with timestamp or fuck off

>>180637896
Lmao this is twg m8, I'm not even a trap. Surely there's some faggots on here

>>180637730
I'll send it if you post your heart

>>180637976

Talking as if you're not a fag yourself

In fact even worse, a faggot whore

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>>180637992
Here

>>180638030
Let the repressed homosexuality come out and represent itself through you gifting me DLC

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>>180637479
Think i'll just carve a path to Ostermark and then go help Kislev fight off Norscans and maybe march south if the Vampires start acting up. Currently they're kept busy by the dwarfs.

>>180638030
>a begging faggot whore
ftfy

>>180638078
>and then go help Kislev fight off Norscans
You can't, especially in legendary

Its easypeasy if you're playing dorfs or VC

Kislev is a good buffer state but they'll get rekt fast

The smaller provinces are just pushovers that their territories are much more suited to shit out resources for your army but keeping a few of them as shields for the anal reaming in the end

What's the deal with mousillion?
Is that what happens when vampiric corruption reaches a big percentage?

https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/878598594881662976

Swordmasters!

S T U F F

S T U F F

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p39ulIfnzc

>>180638575
I love the Total Warhammer trilogy, just thinking on how it exists and how good it is makes me giddy.

>>180638657
I really hope they don't fuck up the Grand Campaign map. It's going to be crazy when all three games are out.

>>180637025
require the unlocker if you want to play as them.

>>180630895
Its time to stop posting, Heir

>>180639660
/TWG/! WHAT THE CRAP IS GOING ON!?

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>>180638575

>stuff on Saturday

what the heck

Just so I know....

This game is impossible to win as Bretonnia, right?

>>180639916
Lad it's Sunday

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>>180635787
You don't exist.

How does vampiric and chaos corruption work?
If they are high enough does a vampire count army just spawn there or does it become an independent region run by chaos/vampires?

>>180639951
in WHAT possible way is playing as brettonia 'impossible'? it's very easy

>>180638575

Why aren't they showing the actual ingame models? Bunch of jews

>>180638575
>still no movement

>>180640105

Not on Very hard - Legendary. Going as King of Bretonnia its literally impossible to even start (due to human and orc invasions) and, by the time things start to look somewhat good, Chaos is already invading and the Empire is so borderline useless they cant stop them for shit.

On top of that you have to fight the Vampire cunts, whose castles are literally impossible to besiege due to attrition.

Bretonnia is hell.

>>180640148
>>180640192

Probably because they reuse Greatsword animations :^)

>>180640219

But you don't take attrition damage when you are in siege stance?

>>180640363

But you do?

>>180640092
someone Pls answer

>>180640390
No you don't.

>>180640590
Don't you take attrition when passing through areas with high levels of corruption?

>>180640398
>>180640092
Why in the world do you need an answer so badly?

Is it that hard to figure out on your own?

Chaos and Vampire corruption just cause a lot of unhappiness and give minor bonuses to armies belonging to Chaos or Vampire factions, that's all

>>180640686

Yes but if you're laying siege to a castle you don't suffer attrition.

>>180640736
>ask something
>WHY DO YOU NEED AN ANSWER SO BADLY REEE
thanks for the info anyway

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It's pretty cool what a simple morale mod does to the game. Siege battles are actually somewhat fun now when the enemy army doesn't all simultaneously rout as soon as the city gates are breached.

>>180640812
It's extremely easy to find out without having to ask people for the info.

It's like asking for sauce when you haven't even tried google yet.

>>180640860
Who needs Google with samaritanons like you around
Thnx for the help

>>180640818
what mod?

>>180640092
The game has a built in encylopedia and a very friendly old man as an advisor who tells you about all the game mechanics if you have him on. Why aren't people using these?

>>180637365
If all the Elector Counts are friendly, go beat up some vampires. You need their land eventually anyway and helps sometimes get a good war going that scares some nerds into confederating.

>>180640965
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=809522978

did anyone else spend their first like 5 hours absolutely clueless just trying out things and crashing their game into the ground within 20 turns?

What's a good place and faction to start with Total War Warhammer? I've got everything besides beastmen.

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>>180606009
Medieval 2 didn't have any official campaign map creator either, right? Unchecked modders autism allowed them to create one.
M-maybe it will happen with Attila t-too?

>>180641457
Empire.

>>180638504
Kinda, if vamp corruption is high you get lots of unrest and may get vamp rebels

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>>180638575
>mfw people think that action has my consent
>>180641457
Empire Karl Franz, attack secessionists turn 1
>>180641501
No Atilla has a new engine so it doesn't work like that, same reason why no new empire maps

>>180641259

Yep

And I loved it. Figured I could play on very hard from the start due to older games experience. but I just flailed around and lost a couple of times.

>>180641457

Empire or Dwarfs. Dwarfs are easy as hell.