Vladbro edition
New Race Pack for TWWH1, New DLC for past historical game and other stuff:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/what-the-teams-are-working-on-07-06-17/
Total War Warhammer 2 E3 Developer Interview - FREE FOR ALL, Magic, Campaign, Fortress Gate Battles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sgjUxVPtY4
Campaign map flyover for WH2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PtX_tJdBU4
Total War Warhammer 2 E3 Developer Interview - Dragons, New Units, Geomantic Web, DLC Plans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t48El9jBvr0
Mazdamundi's Skill Tree/Misc Gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQkUBoGptGI
Articles on Warhammer 2:
https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/2/15724926/total-war-warhammer-2-e3-preview-hands-on
https://venturebeat.com/2017/06/02/segas-creative-asssembly-unveils-a-massive-new-world-for-total-war-warhammer-ii/
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-02-everything-weve-learnt-about-total-war-warhammer-2
Lizardmen In-Engine Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3CmxjTFv_Y
Lizardmen and High Elf Roster Reveal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVyRy3OUtKg
Text version:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/lizardmen-army-roster/
High Elf Roster Reveal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKMR08CpxCU
Text version:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/high-elf-army-roster/
>Warhammer II
http://store.steampowered.com/app/594570/
Total War: WARHAMMER 2 – Announcement Cinematic Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXxe897bW-A
Total War: WARHAMMER 2 – Vision Dev Diary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6WW1Nc537g
>DEAD Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp
>FAQs and General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications
Campaign-posting and screenshot-sharing encouraged
Old Thread: >>180477932
I coughed up all the shekels for DLC, how do I unlock the sekrit factions?
Fuck Chaos
Brits are weird.
>>180544754
Secret? You mean a faction unlocker?
>>180544648
>2 month hiatus from TW and twg
>first time I visit back OP uploaded my picture with the exact same title
I-I'm flattered...
>>180544824
I read that I have to do the Wood Elves and Beastmen campaigns to get more sub-factions.
>>180544648
Did not see anyone mention this in the previous threads but the Chaos dlc got updated in the steamdb.
https://steamdb.info/app/364360/dlc/
The race pack is likely to be Norsca with free dlc updates for the Warriors of Chaos. Maybe the Slaughterbrute or Mutalith Vortex Beast could be added.
>>180544942
Well, you get the Red Duke and Boris Todbringer for MP if you do their minicampaigns. But I'm pretty sure you can unlock those with a faction unlocker mod.
>>180544953
Nice
>>180544648
Can't i confederate the other Wood elf tribes? Do i just have take their lands by force?
>>180545143
>>180544942
You will get Red Duke and Boris Todbringer for mp if you finish their campaigns. You can unlock those factions for singleplayer using faction unlockers but both of this sadly non-LL won't be recruitable again if they are wounded if you don't own dlc. Just like you can play as welves using faction unclocker but you won't be able to recruit new units.
>>180545128
Upgrade the Oak of Ages to level 3 I think? You should have a tooltip saying when you unlock the ability to form confederacies.
>>180545143
>>180544829
>>180544807
What mod?
>>180544648
Tell me lads, as a longtime fan of the series who hasn't played since Rome 2 release, how would you rate Atilla, Warhammer and the Rome 2 DLC in terms of purchasing priority?
I got money but don't know where to put it.
>>180545406
1. Attila
2. Warhammer
3. Rome 2 DLC
>>180545406
Just buy Warhammer and face the fact that we own Total War now, historycuck.
>amazons still not announced
>>180545406
Depending on whether atilla or warhammer interests you more, get that first. Not sure if R2 DLC is worth buying at all.
>>180545559
y-you too
>>180545406
I'd rate Warhammer and Attila roughly equal. Which one to buy depends on which you're interested in. Attila is terribly optimized, however, and it's combat animations look terrible.
Don't own Rome 2, so I can't comment on that.
>>180545559
Friendly reminder that fantashit = mediocrity so far, and tww 2 is confirming this
ahhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>180545578
We're probably not even going to get Tomb Kings at launch.
>bought Shogun 2:FotS standalone ages ago
>enjoy it
>wanna play some standard Shogun 2
>campaign start option is greyed out in game
>can only start a FotS campaign
>steam gives me pic related if i try to buy Shogun 2 itself
wat do lads ?
Keep on rollin baby!
So what if someone buy Warhammer just to install Lotr mod? Why would they care? They will get their money anyway, does it really matter if someone will want to play it only on a mod? Not to mention that they will get free money thanks to setting they can't use themselves. I assume it is GW who is so retarted because neither SEGA nor Paradox had a problem with such mods before. Paradox even admitted that a lot people bought CK2 only to play GoT mod.
>>180545880
>Tomb Kings still not announced.
>>180545671
>fantashit
i won't let you shit on fanta you faget
>>180546006
I don't think I can enjoy any future total war without magic/spell/orbital strike system. This leaves very little chance for a historical tw. Maybe they should be looking at sci-fi? Can CA pull of a sci-fi Total War? Maybe 40k to cuck historyfags even more?
HOO HA HOO HA HOO HA
system survey, complete
>>180546169KHAZUKANKAZAKITHAAAAAAA
I JUST WANT TO PLAY AS CHORFS AND OGRE'S ALREADY
>>180546213Endlessspace2is more fun.
History and fantasy living in harmony>>180545974 you do not know the depths of the insanity that is GW's lawyers.
>>180546239
I just want to play see a proper Estalia faction tbqh
>>180546280
delete
>>180546239
>chorfs lack any art whatsoever so anon had to use meme to put them into this pic as meme is their only representation.
>>180546280
/civ4xg/ is more dead than Warhammer Fantasy, so I'll just ask here: is ES2 worth buying yet?
>>180545368
Medieval Kingdoms 1295 AD
>>180546401
Noice thanks
>>180546334
Border Princes/Dogs of War would be my jam.
>>180545876
i had the same issue i think, i just bought it "again" so to speak and i got shogun 2 and fots both unlocked.
if it doesnt work out you can always just refund it i guess
>>180544807
>all cannons
Explain what's wrong
>>180544829
Finally a new one
>>180544918
Tabacland always fucks shit up in my games, boris always allies strangely
>>180546350
I've heard people praise it but there appears to be some bugs left, including some game breaking ones. And the AI can apparently be quite passive.
>>180546551
>Border Princes
Do they even have an official tabletop roster? I can barely find anything about them.
>>180546350
Its quite playable. Fixed most of the problems of ES1. Has some bugs left though. Plus, they stepped up the presentation. Its one of those games that just gives you eye/ear gasms.
>>180545235
Some work and then we're good
>>180546626
>>180545876
yeah, took a leap of faith, "Re"bought S2 and it worked out, can play it now. must have just been a steam related bug
>>180545559
Don't use cuck as a perjorative
>>180545578
Don't objectify women like that
So no one wanted free stuff from me in the last thread? ok then
>>180545880
Requesting Rome 2
>>180546657
Nah, back in 3e I think there was an ad-hoc army list (the Dogs of War) made up of Border Princes mercenaries. There was some cool shit like the commander being a dude on the company's treasury cart, Ogres from Araby, and crossbowmen with pavises.
I can't wait to play Rome II in the Attila engine!
>downloading Total War: Warhammer
>time remaining: 4 hours
>>180546842
KEK
>>180546285
The new CEO is loved by everyone so he wouldn't do that
>>180545974
Cross-licence infringement is big business. CK2 isn't a copyrighted setting
>>180546651
Nothing. If they actually tried to take settlments but they just sat
there for like 8 turn.
>>180546946
It's the same engine war scape they just changed the campaign and added churches
>>180547047
So they besieged it?
>>180546927
here you go my friend
>>180546927
Anyone willing to play some random multiplayer battles with meme armies on TW: W?
stop playing Empire
>>180547125
I never understood the Pontus meme
>>180547201
>dumb fucking heathens
>Varg
What did Creative Assembly meme by this?
>>180547201
You can't tell me what to do. You're not even released yet.
Norsca will be the same thing as Chaos Warriors, right?
>>180547081
Nah. Just sat there in the forest doing nothing.
>>180546954
> playing total worst : trashammer
>>180544648
Whenever I quit Warhammer it freezes my computer and the only way to get it to close is to ctrl alt delete and sign out and sign back in again. Anyone know why this is? It's a bit Irritating as if I don't exit the game proper it doesn't save any of my settings I change.
>>180547387
I have something similar where after pressing quit the screen is black for a few seconds and nothing happens. But I never have to sign out though.
>>180547376
My inner Jew couldn't resist the tasty discounts
>>180546929
That was Tilea
>>180547376
>spending all day on a Tibetian puppet show discussion website complaining about people playing a game you don't like
>>180547376
>but muh historyyyyy ;^CC
>>180546340
>"Where was Grimnir when our warriors were dying? Where was Valaya when our children sickened? When we called out for aid in the deep places where we delved, it was not Grungni who answered our call, but mighty Hashut who delivered us in our time of need. Who are the real traitors here? Our kin who abandoned us to madness and death or we who only sought to survive against the forces of Chaos? One day there will be a reckoning and it will be the Sons of the Father of Darkness who will have the victory, not the weak willed spawn of the pathetic Ancestor Gods."
- CHORFS
>>180547201
I thought of this before but never posted, why did it take this long to appear
>>180547228
>>180547125
Besides pre order meme
>>180547136
Give me Phalnax or give me death
Tomb Kangz when?
Skaven genocide when?
>>180547387
When I quit warhammer it doesn't respond, but then just use task manager to close it, it's fine
Do you have unlimited video memory
>>180547594
I'm guessing Hashut is just a chaos god in disguise.
>>180547607
Ask Grace.
In, like, 2 months.
>>180547673
I do have it on
I can't use the task manager though when it freezes, it's one of those things when you can't alt tab out or use the mouse or anything without signing all the way out.
>>180547704
Nah he's bit like the horned rat, spawned off a chaos god but he's none of the 4.
How dare Isabella have to sit next to such a rude man, I shall slay him myself
>>180547704
He is a chaos god
Or a daemon prince with a lot of power so he attracts lots of worshippers which gives him even more power
>>180547756
So you have two monitors right
>>180547853
Nope, does that fix the non usable cursor issue though? If so I should consider that, I have that problem more often than I should
>>180547908
If you had two you should be able to movie it across
Have you tied control alt delete
Chorfs would actually be a pretty good race to play as for what their army comp would allow.
-Dwarfs
-Greenskins and hobgoblin slaves
-Chaos monsters
That would be a pretty fun army to play imo
>>180548153
I hope pic related gets an accurate depiction in the game.
In the TT it was capable of singlehandedly wiping out half the enemy army.
>>180548120
Yes, that's how I sign out.
>>180548153
Hordes of chaos so read this
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer/Tactics/8th_Edition/Legion_of_Azgorh
>>180544648
So what about Napoleon: Total War makes it the best in the series?
How does Dwarf Beer compare to Human Beer?
>>180546105
TWW is gonna be huge once the final game comes out.
9 races for base game, 5 for 2 at launch
Is this gonna be the biggest at TW ever?
>>180548265
Do cruel alt delete
Delegate task manager
And it should swap to that
Also turn power off rather than switch user
>>180548314
The best beer is served at bugman's brewery with bear skin flannels
>>180548349
More importantly hordes of chaos at last
>>180548314
If I'm not mistaken, since it's been like 10 years since I read any Warhammer stuff, it's as potent as a high-proof spirit.
>>180548314
The dwarf one is shit
>>180548314
Extremely high alcohol content yet thick enough to be used as a substitute for bread.
>>180548349
Pray for the dilapidated soul of the Roll Chart Curator!
>>180548349
Final trilogy with all DLC and combined worldmap should have about 20 playable factions, maybe 150 minor/non playable, and about 400 unique settlements across 3 different landmasses. Also variety in unit types and playstyle is going to be absolutely ludicrous, will probably take at least a few hundred hours to conquer the whole game world as a single faction.
>>180548591
Also it'll cost at least as many dollars as there are settlements so that's just great. CA should be rolling in dough by the time they're done
>>180548686
>buying all of the dlcs
>>180548740
>not buying all the dlcs
>>180548752
>giving CA that many shekels for factions that you probably don't even care about
>>180548591
Third expansion probably isn't going to be as big as the other games in terms of landmass size, it would get pretty silly otherwise
>>180548834
>not giving CA that many shekels for factions that you probably don't even care about
>>180548752
>buying beastmen
>>180548834
It doesn't cost that much and I enjoy the game so I fail to see the issue.
>>180548916
Unless they expand on Cathay, Ind and Nippon
>>180548834
but i have to have it all, i got all of this as it came out full price btw, worth it
>>180548916
If it's the chaos lands scale is all off, due to the lol randum magic fucking with everything
>>180548962
Yep, that's the way to go if you don't want to spend a lot of money. Glad you understand.
>>180548916
Cue (justified) riot about charging for all the shekels for a game half the size of the two previous entries
>>180549002
>Cathay, Ind and Nippon
ahhhhhhahahahahahaah
>>180549150
The third game will focus mainly on the combined map and kislev and [sppiler] Bloodletter (Armoured)
>>180549309
It's the only thing which would justify full price. Darklands and Chaos wastes are equally borning to Badlands.
>>180549352
Will the third have its own combined map, not requiring you to own the previous 2 in the series? I don't know if CA will do that but it would also fuck over new adopters if not
>>180549352
>combined map
Will we get a proper underground map then?
>>180549461
>not requiring you to own the previous 2 in the series
This would make the first two games entirely pointlessand therefore cost them sales
>>180549423
Would Games Workshop even allow CA to essentially present the first real look at these factions in Warhammer's history?
>>180550068
GW killed the setting, so why not?
>>180550068
Probably not, but it would be a good tie-in if it launched at the same time as they got an army book.
>>180550068
Games Workshop are already starting to let CA do whatever they want
>OC donut steel units
>Ferals (and not the cute Australian TV show kind)
>Norsca as anything more than a recruiting ground for Chaoz?
>>180548298
absolutely nothing
What's the difference between axe and sword units in Attila in terms of what they're good at fighting and what they're weaker to? Is Western Roman Empire a terrible idea to play for a first campaign?
>>180550287
Axe units have better ap than swords and a bonus vs infantry.
WRE is a terrible idea for a first campaign
>>180550287
Playing WRE will put hair on your chest
>>180550401
>>180550421
Cheers guys. Might just go for an easier faction to start with. There seems to be a lot of little unique differences in this game than the TW games I usually play.
>>180549461
Yes
Game 1 will also be updated with this combined map
Probably similar to shogun 2 fall of the samurai in campaign select
>>180549572
Maybe, the scroll wheel will alternate between the two
DESU if he fine if 3 just worked on campaign and finished races with DLC and FLC because I'll have all the other DLC at that point
>>180550592
In my opinion, start with a small faction.
>>180550592
Start with saxons just don't piss off franks
>>180550721
>not starting with Franks and pissing off Saxons
>>180550721
Not my man
>>180550762
My man
>>180550721
SHED
>>180550287
they have made the game much easier with subsequent patches, so you can probably manage to play as the WRE. Go for it and try to have some fun
>>180550762
>>180550854
>there are French people in this discord
Unless you've lived in Normandy your whole life and your family has lived there since 1453 then has yourselves DESU
>>180550762
>>180550854
>>180550968
Saxons > Franks
Goddammit! They weren't this sparse with info during the months leading up to WH1. What the fuck gives?
Chaos is ridiculously broken in SFO.
>>180551115
Cockteasing 101 my man
>>180551261
Well in SFO the Aspies are the most expensive unit on the Chaos roster by a country mile, and possibly the best infantry unit in the game. Big change from vanilla.
Redpill me about the Dark Elves lad
What's going to give them an edge over the High Elves or the frogs? Are Hydras going to stomp the fuck out of anyone not triply prepared for them?
>>180550975
>discord
What?
>>180551373
What makes Aspies even more ridiculous is that they don't really take any losses until HP is half gone. So after the battle they are fully healed (like here) instantly.
>>180551434
I would assume that the Delfs will have much better offensive stats/units than the helfs or lizards since thats kind of their schtick
>>180551539
Yeah that part is pretty rough, had some knock down drag out fights with Chaos only to find them retreat with their Aspies and Armoured Troles at full health.
>>180550721
>Not starting with saxons and pissing on the Franks with your starting armies
>>180551261
As well they should
You have read the fluff right
Warriors are normally only killed by artillery and cavalry
>>180551714
Which is lore accurate. Now fuck off back to history trash can.
>>180552218
We were brothers Heingst
>>180552774
Fluff you tryhard
>>180552218
This is perfidy!
>>180552774
>trash can
*rubbish bin
>>180552774
Why are your sperging you faggot. He has a valid point, high HP low troop count units should not just get healed instantly. Their HP after battle should be what they ended the battle with.
Does TW:A and TW:W make a big difference if installed on an SSD or a regular hard drive?
>>180553148
>the dark gods favour them
>totally balanced
It's magic I ain't got to explain shit dot jaypeg
>>180553168
Very significant difference between an SSD and a HDD.
Load times when going in and out of battle goes from a minute or more to around 20-30 seconds.
>>180553168
Hugely, yes.
>>180553297
>>180553325
Alright thanks
>>180553168
Its like playing a different game. Everything is more responsive. Load times for campaign, battle and even interface tabbing is faster.
WE DID IT LADS!
BLACK ORC SQUIG CHARIOTS!
https://youtu.be/A3UqdRMb2g4
>>180553641
Radious would be proud.
>>180548153
Chorfs are the perfect army:
>Dwarfan infantry
>Dwarfan artillery
>Dwarfan guns
But with:
>Monsters
>Flying monsters
>Cavalry
>Fast cav (Hobgoblin wolf riders)
>Magic
The Maze, Dolores.
>>180553956
>>Dwarfan infantry
That's less sturdy than proper Dawi infantry.
>>Dwarfan artillery
That's less efficient than proper Dawi artillery.
>>Dwarfan guns
That are less destructive than proper Dawi guns.
>>180553775
Make it a Night Gobbo Squig Chariot and it should have been in 9th edition
>Gate keeps opening and closing because some stray horse is running around near it
>Can't go through
>Can't attack it either
Should i just refund this piece of shit?
>>180554289
infantry can climb walls by themselves, just send them up and capture the gate
>>180554289
>not using ladders
Wew lad
>>180554289
>Outsmarted by an horse.
>>180554289
Destroying gates without siege gear or monster takes a million years, you'd be better served scaling the wall
>>180551434
CA have been privately showcasing Delf Hydra animations for a few years now, so you know it's going to be a centrepiece unit for them.
Also repeater crossbows will shred lightly armoured troops (crossbows that do double shots)
Dark Magic is very offensive, depends how it is implemented
Doomfire Warlocks are magic cav that have access to mannaless Doombolt spell (like Sisters of Thorn)
>>180554480
>Implying that Gelt is not a monster
Lords can punch through them in a matter of moments as well
>>180554698
>in a matter of moments
If by "Moments" you mean "2% at a time with their slow-ass attack animations" then yeah, I guess.
Does TW:WH have the worst agents of the entire series?
>AI Agents constantly raping your armies
>fuck all success chance for player agents
>>180554393
>>180554386
Take a guess what all the swordsmen not shown in the first pic were doing. Also, the towers weren't shooting at my men for some reason even though they were occupied by the enemy at the start. Am i missing something or is it a bug?
>>180554848
>it's a you can't cross a single region in the badlands without dying because there are 2 goblins agents in there
>>180554848
The mere fact that you can bring them into combat makes them better than any agents in the series before.
Not to mention that once you get some levels on an agent you'll be getting 70% success chance actions out the ass and you'll never have to face a threatening enemy lord again.
>>180550068
I believe they would. It's the last chance to do it. Also look at the map found in the Russian leak. This seems to be the map when ALL three games are released.
We know the second game is Ulthuan, Naggaroth, Lustria and the Southlands so the third game is clearly the east side. As this is the combined map, we are not seeing the whole of the third game map and each game is a standalone. The eastern side must go way further and might even hit the lands of Cathay.
Isabella sat on the elaborately carved throne in the center of the room, bathed head to toe in the blood of Vogler's court. Around the room thirty people, Vogler's cooks and cleaners, maids and men were arranged like dolls in an insane playhouse, posed for Isabella's amusement.
They embraced, they lay at one and another's feet in worship, they held their hands to their faces in horror. At their feet, the blood she could not swallow pooled thickly. She sat there, the queen in her crimson court, regal, wan and serene. She was, beyond any pale shadow, worthy of being called his wife.
'Aren't they pretty?' she said, seeing him. She held in her lap the face of a woman she had torn away. She lifted it in front of her own as he walked toward her and asked, 'Which do you prefer? I think she is pretty. I would like her. Do you want me to look like her, my love?'
And in that moment, he knew that she was lost.
He had never loved her more.
>>180555023
That map is already outdated given that Teclis starts on the Turtle Isles which aren't on that map.
Why are AHHHHH posters such faggots
>>180555112
The map I showed might be the map when all three games are combined. If you play the Warhammer 2 campaign (Vortex campaign), you get Ulthuan, Naggaroth, Lustria and the Southlands in their entirely instead of being cut off as they are here.
To imagine the third game, take only the eastern part and expand it even further east (each game is a standalone). If we do that, we could get factions in such as Cathay or Nippon.
Minor factions will likely be getting updates too (Norsca and Araby) so other minor factions have a higher chance too.
>>180555265
>presidential analogies
>>180555023
The Southlands aren't even on that map
>>180555265
>Phoneposter
I'm surprised you aren't raging about CA not having anything to show even though it's already wednesday.
>>180551085
?
>>180555403
That map was their original intention/roadmap, but with the success of TWW1 they expanded the scope of TWW2 to include the Southlands and a fuller Lustria/New World, inlcuding the West coast & sea.
CA have already spoken about this.
>there are people who unironically want a china tw
L O L
>>180555403
That map doesn't even have the Southlands on it, though. It stops at Khemri.
>>180555112
Remember they said they had to move the start position of one lord in the south of lustria because the area was cut off in the combined map.
That's almost certainly Teclis.
>>180555816
>tfw next historical title is TW:Renaissance so CA can reuse assets from TW:Warhammer 1&2
>tfw TW:Warhammer will include Cathay so they can reuse assets from it to make Total War: China
>>180546105
>roll
r-r-r-ol
>>180555816
IRONDRAKES
>>180555852
It's a mock up for the combined campaign.
>>180556014
mock up? heh... more like cock up...
>>180555671
HOW THE FUCK DID YOU KNOW
Why are you stalking me and checking the filename of every photo I upload
>>180555805
That is a good point and one I agree with with but it does not take away from my point about the third game (the games success will allow more as you stated). The first game map has Bearsonling's Camp at the far top right and has the Worlds Edge Mountains going all the way down the right border of the 1st game map.
Therefore for the third game, we must go further east. Look at this map as an visual example;
http://www.gitzmansgallery.com/shdmotwow.html
We can see Chaos Dwarfs here with the Ogre Kingdoms at the mountainous area to the far east and the Chaos Wastes to the north where the Daemons will be. I believe the third game will go further east and will allow more minor factions to be involved.
>>180556010THUNDEREEERS!
>>180556491
There's already quite a bit of Chaos wastes, it's easily enough real estate for two provinces.
What a mess. But we managed to repel orc scum and live to see another day.
>>180556598
It is large but the old combined map looks like it has these three areas (apart from the Dragon Isles where Lizardmen are) to allow Chaos Dwarfs at the east side of the Worlds Edge Mountains, the Ogre Kingdoms at the far east bit and the Chaos Daemons at the top north bit. I think for me, the third game would be lacking of minor factions if it stopped at just the Ogre Kingdoms.
>>180555615
Maybe I'm wrong but do the Southlands contain Araby and the Land of the Dead or is it just the Southern bit? The bit we see in the leaked map can contain Tomb Kings, Araby and Skaven if they are moved up.
>>180555816
Ahhh.... the art of war!
>>180556450
I'm a wizard
Is there a worse feeling than no money during a steam sale?
cheer me up guys pls
>>180557551
Whatever is happening in your life, it's still better than my vegetable state of existence.
>>180557551
Being a refugee with a steam account but no PC to play them on, and oxford university just gives you some shitty pong game from the 70's
>>180556491
Yeah I agree.
Will be interesting to see what they do with the Southlands first as the lore there ian't as fleshed out.
Same with the "Mexico" region of South Naggaroth below the established Delf settlements in Hudson Bay. Not much content in the lore, but CA will makes some decisions on how to fill the map.
Both are preludes for an Eastern Expansion. If Norsca gets an expanded roster then we may see "Mongol" themed Chaod Maurader Armies in the North, and rogue Hobgoblin themed armies.
>>180557094
The Southlands are the lands below Khemri and Araby, i.e. sub-Saharan Africa. It's a jungle region, rather than desert.
Also note the Old World human settlements in the Gulf of Guinea.
>>180557728
>my vegetable state of existence.
explain pls
>>180557728
does your willy work
>>180558230
I am seeing Naggaroth as having Norscan tribes to the north (the red with a white horse banner in the trailer) and there form of fortress gates will be the northern watch towers that keep the Chaos forces at bay. Dark Elves are all below this in the north of Naggaroth (except Clar Karond). The south of Naggaroth is described as a barren wasteland but a High Elves colony is in the south so we will have that. There is also Dark Elf shade tribes and some of the names of areas seem Dark Elf so maybe a chance to put more Dark Elves minor factions in.
If you also look at the Warhammer World map I posted, at the far east of the map, it states 'To Far Cathay' and 'To the Great Maw'. I can't see CA leaving out the Great Maw as that is major to Ogre Kingdoms so Cathay must make it in.
Which Chaos God will be the antagonist of TWW2?
Elves suggest Slaanesh, but Khorne's Valkia is in the wastes above Naggaroth.
>>180546105
I came in to the thread just for this.
>>180558838
Isn't the Vortex is antagonist of TWW2?
We probably going to get more stuff for Norsca, but i dont think any demons
>>180546105
First ever warhammer campaign
Pls be somthing good
>>180558838
Probably Slaanesh because he/she/whateveryouwant eats the souls of both. Dark Elves are a guarantee but Helves need sacrificed.
Doomfire Warlocks when?
>>180558509
I do think CA when mentioning the Southlands means the Southlands and Khremi and Araby as it is easier to state it like that. The map trailer does show Araby as well (very briefly near Ulthuan). CA also mentioned desert when describing the Southlands in one video so it must include Khremi and Araby as well even if the lore has them as separate.
Thanks for the information though, the world is really vast and I'm surprised GW never expanded these areas.
>>180559136
>not picking the faction that looks the most interesting to you on your first campaign
>>180558838
I guarana tea that /ourboy/ Archaon is gonna show up with his mates Big Birb, Slut Prince, and Mountain Man
>>180559136
>SCHEMES
Honestly I don't know if I'd recommend Skarsnik for a first campaign, he's fun but he's also a bit of an odd duck.
>>180559190
Don't worry i will, i'm not going to play as dirty goblins
>>180546105
Roll for the best elves.
>>180558838
N'Kari for High Elves
Valkia for Malekith
dunno about the others
>>180558838
>Which Chaos God will be the antagonist of TWW2?
Tzeentch again
>>180558838
I believe it will be Slaanesh due to Elves being involved. North of Naggaroth has Norscans which would be a decent invasion area. The Vortrex could also summon in Chaos units as well.
Specifically, I think it will be the Keeper of Secrets N'Kari as 'it' is trapped in the Great Vortrex and has connections with Tyrion, Teclis and Morathi so it would be suitable.
Where do the Sisters of the Thorn fit into a WE army? I can't seem to justify them taking up a slot.
>>180559314
But anon, High Elves aren't in the game yet!
>>180559432
Their spells are killer. If you aren't the type of player to micro and abuse op spells then you won't find them that good.
>>180558838
Tzzentch because they are resisting change that the vortex will bring, and the advisor is the same gods bless him
>>180559136
Go with Vlad, can't be wrong there.
Keep us informed how you like it so far
>>180559432
Yeah they don't do it for me either. Same for Glade Riders frankly.
>Warhammer 2 is released
>you need to buy a separate blood DLC for it
How mad would you be?
>2 months until Total Warhams 2
>Krell still not announced
>Norsca still not announced
aaaaaaaa
>>180559618
They littorally told us that would nut be the case.
>>180559461
>wanting to play as posh pointy-eared chads
>>180559618
>>180559672
They also said Rome 2 was their best game ever and so much work had been put into it
>>180559314
>rolling for Dark Elves when they're not in the game yet
>>180559618
Warhammer trilogy will share all dlc
>>180559618
They already confirmed you wouldn't have to buy it again
What are the odds of Dorfs or Vampires getting a new starting position in the New World?
>>180559912
Looks like they're hedging their bets a bit, placing minor factions around so they can expand them as a DLC (like we saw with Skarsnik et al)
I think it's a solid bet that they'll do a Vampire Coast and Conkwistadores DLC pack.
>>180559149
This is 40k lore. Elves are not responsible for the creation of Slaanesh in fantasy. Their only connection stems from Morathi being head of the DE Slaanesh cult.
>>180559912
Very possible
"You need to buy Total War Warhammer 1 to unlock this content"
I wonder, would be there FLC's for Warhams 2?
>>180560046
Except in the end times she eats all of them
7th ed pls fuck off
>>180560007
>>180560060
Please take my money, CA.
>>180560219
Damn, Fell Bats look like *that*?
>>180560086
Which was a specific plot element of the world being ended by chaos and had nothing to do with what normally happens to elves when they die.
>>180560007
I just want my nigga Tetto'ekko as a FLC Lord once they drop the inevitable priest and prophet DLC.
>>180560086
>Slaanesh
>She
>>180558721
Araby is the first test for CA creating thematically different humans without much lore to guide them. And then they need to redo Estalia, Tilea & Kislev.
Cathay is a long distance behind that and has almost no lore. Mongol-themed Chaos maruader tribes (i.e. Eastern Norse) is the closest you might get.
>>180559912
If i uderstand all the info they provided us correctly, you only have new races in TWW2 as playable, you can play old world races only if you play the combined campaigns map and sail to the new world
>>180560007
Seeing as they can only release one full faction DLC in tomb kangs.
Im hoping we get vampire coast, savage greenskin and dem conquistadors. Really hoping Araby get something as well.
What good is it playing as kangz if you don't get to kill sand jews?
>>180559031
The vortex keeps Chaos at bay, interferring with it causes demon/Chaos invasions. Probs a new greater demon like big bird in TWW1. N'Kari is the obvious candidate.
>>180560839
Are Elves allowed to move to the Old World if you don't own TWW1?
>>180561104
I think you have to own both games to use the mega campaign map but I could be wrong.
>>180561104
Yes they'll have colonies like wood elves
>>180561104
you need both games to play combined map supercampaign.
They've got their own campaigns separately
>>180560496
It's not gay when she sucks my dick ergo not male ergo female
>>180561043
>>180560737
We can't talk much of the third game as we know little about it but Araby should be too bad to implement. The Warmaster game has them and their units. Djinn, flying carpets and Elephants would seem to be the tougher units to put in. Dogs of War to represent the Southern Realms would also not be that bad apart from Ogres and halfings.
They both can be done for the second game. I'm sure of it.
>>180561284
Does that mean Old World Skaven and New World Skaven will have wildly different campaigns?
Uh, will Skaven even be in the New World at all?
>>180561402
DON'T fuck that giant demoness.
>>180561426
If norscans get mammoths they can reuse them for araby elephants. I beleive
>>180561470
New World campaign revolves around Vortex,
Combined supercampaign plays by TWW1 campaign rules
>>180561538
Yes, was thinking the same. This game when all three are released will be amazing. If only modders could fully work with it such as importing models and the like.
>>180561567
Ohhh.
Wait, you can't deal with the Vortex and then sail off to the Old World?
>>180561402
N`kari looks a little more like this.
I picked up TWW on sale. Let me just tell you how my first experience with the Empire went. You already fukkin know who I picked as my lord.
>Everything going smoothly, trade agreements, kicking secessionist ass
>Unite my first province
>Get a little greedy, declare war on some empire faction to the east to get some land to transition into fighting spooky skeletons
>fucking Wissenland starts racing me to see who can get to settlements first
>Decide to fight them purely because I'm petty
>Duking it out with Wessinland while Skarsnik decided my territory is perfect to raid with his bullshit Arachnarok faggot
>Raze one of his villages out of spite
>Subjugate wissenland, didn't realize the fucking Von Carsteins were building steam the whole time
>Fucked me up, sent me limping home
>Skarsnik cuts off my retreat
Why did no one tell me this game was so much goddamn fun?
>>180561801
don't think so
>>180561840
>>180561875
>Why did no one tell me this game was so much goddamn fun?
historyfags don't want you to know the truth
>>180561608
It's such a shame there's no model support. There's so much space for modders to fill in the little corners of the setting.
Will TWW """"2"""" failure signal the end of fantasy TW?
>>180561936
Well, that clears up at least some of my confusion. Thanks, /twg/.If Vortex is a separate campaign, would the TWW2 DLC factions even figure into it?
>>180561875
>Why did no one tell me
Because you're a friendless faggot
>Khorne has Valkia, a Norscan Princess
>Slaanesh has N'Kari, an Elven handmaiden
Why doesn't Nurgle have female champions?
Like an obese Norscan pig herder with overgrown yeast infection
>Freda the Fishy
______________
>>180553993
ooh no you again no
>>180562184
No im just a regular faggot
>>180562221
He is a sexist
>>180561875
Enjoying having the same experience over and over
>>180561538
They have elephant assets from Rome, also pike units for Tilea (and Estalia??).
Still we haven't seen them.
Hopefully having these guys in Lustria means CA pull their fingers out and bring pike units in to differentiate the Southern Realms.
>>180562235
KARAK EIGHT PEAKS
T H I R Y Y E A R S W A R
WHEN
>>180562629
After Warhammer 4: Age of Sigmar
>>180561991
They're lying to you. N'Kari looks like this in Fantasy and is a great friend of the Elven people, fighting side by side with Elven Kings and Dowager Queens alike:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmXykLQ6-Ak
>>180562629
>special performance by Sabaton
>>180562825
>Warhammer online
it was too good for this world, i really hope someone picks it up again
>>180562825
Why did this game have to suck?
>watch camptain map flyover
>watch lizardmen trailer immediately afterward
91 DAYS, 10 HOURS, AND 40 MINUTES
>>180562381
But thats wrong you fucking faggot.
>>180563427
>91 days
>13 weeks
SKAVEN REVEAL WHEN WHEN!?
>>180562064
Hopefully they can release something for modders at the end when the series is complete.
>>180563021
>Genre's going great
>Blizzard makes a game in it
>Genre goes to shit
RTS
MMO
and now, FPS
>>180563772
No rats just lizards.
>>180563869
There is still good FPS like Prey, Doom, Wolfenstein.
Right, this is grade A bullshit.
I've heard a lot of people complain about being trained by AI before in TW games but never experienced it myself without reason.
In Shogun 2 it happens a lot where if a lot of factions declare war on you more factions join in because it thinks your easy pickings.
But this is beyond retarded. A clan I was really friendly & trading with who are also aligned with my family allegiance declares war on me despite the fact that they're all the way in fucking Kyushu and they hate the Taira. I was expecting all the clans neighbouring me to declare war when Taira invasion fleets started arriving but not a family clan all the way in fucking Kyushu.
Taira invasion fleets didn't even make sense in the first place when they're at war with their neighbours.
>>180563869
i really want a warhammer mmo though
>Bum rush Marienburg and Orc Settlement
OR
>Farm Orc rebellions
>>180564269
>farming orcs
Ze Lady wouldn't approve cheating.
>>180564269
>not crusading against the unchivalrous germans
top kek lad
Why can't I use Mouseillon in the Old World campaign?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFpke1L_aQs
>>180564757
CA hasn't got around to selling it yet.
>>180564757
Faction unlocker mod, nigga.
>>180564269
>Bum rush Marienburg
>Sack orcs
>Farm orc rebellions in two provinces
>>180557303
more like the fart of war. amirite.
>>180553523
>>180553325
>>180553297
no to be a tech newfag, but i've tried googling it, and it's a total bitch to move a steam game from my HD to my SSD, how am i supposed to do that? i have an SSD but steam and all the games are on the 1TB HD
>>180564840
Delete this right now lad.
>>180565062
>create new library in steam
>move game there
Just right click on a game and go to Properties -> Local Files.
>>180564269
I ended up besieging marienburg first and then grung zingt. minimal losses, louen didn't really level up much, but minimal casualties.
your second idea would probably be more fun and less troublesome, but you won't be making money for a while. Basically, sit tight fucking up orcs until you're able to recruit your good cav.
Because of the peasant limit, it might be better to take Marienburg first. Otherwise, you're either hemorrhaging money or working with a limited sized army.
>>180564269
mb is just too much dosh
>>180565178
Right click game > properties > local files > move install folder
Now, go do something else as any modern game will take forever to move from a HDD to a SSD.
I dreamed about playing Warhammer and i don't even have it, i just have attila and rome 2 lmao
Anyone also dreams about their campaigns in total war? like my mind sometimes wander off strategizing about taking cities and killing armies
>>180565346
no you fucking nerd lmao
>>180565346
>>180565432
People like you shouldn't be allowed around sharp objects
>>180565432
>>180565513
I thought we were all nerds here
>mfw
>>180565290
>>180565247
>>180564929
At what point would you take the remaining marienburg settlement?
I suppose having order problems in marienburg gives you constant rebellions to fight, and lord knows skaling stacks don't need any more regions to target.
>>180564009
I wonder what's in this boat...
>Tfw everyone likes you but no one wants to join your confederation so you could unlock Franz
Where should i expand now? Towards Bretonnian dukedoms?
>>180565597
We're just messin' with you, fampai, I've had dream about other games in the past. No Warhammer dreams yet
>>180565764
>taking Gorsel
Why?
>>180565802
Sure. Take Artois, those guys tend to be belligerent cunts in my Empire campaigns.
>>180565513
upboated *tips hat*
>>180565764
It will take two turns to move Louen to Marienburg. Turn one take him to your borders, recruit units to your limit. Turn 2, seige.
Meanwhile, jew up money from diplomacy, and anticipate incursions by building up an army quickly right when they occur.
>Cities can be razed to the ground in a single turn no matter how many upgrades it has
This is bullshit.
>>180565880
Salt, and to use the tax commandment.
>>180566119
Do you complain when you leave your car unlocked and it subsequently gets stolen?
>>180565764
Gorsel gets destroyed by beastmen or norsce pretty quickly. Empire factions usually try to resettle it quick.
>>180565342
>>180565178
it says my SSD is a read only drive when i try to make a new folder, any tips?
fuck 1 min load times on campaign every single time
>>180566240
It takes two turns to make a few siege towers and yet an army can completely destroy a huge city instantly.
Given how much effort and dosh you need to restore the city that should should take a few turns.
>>180566207
Enjoy your chariotniggers raiding you forever.
>>180565062
There's a program called Steam Mover. Use it to move your Steam games around different drives en masse, really easy:
http://www.traynier.com/software/steammover
>>180565802
I find campaigning in brettonia to be a pain. The grey mountains cut you off from the homeland enough that the inevitable threats coming from the north and west become super difficult to deal with.
I always try to find a way to push west towards the vampires, either through military access treaties with Stirland/Talabecland, or by conquering whichever western empire count is being the biggest jobber.
That crusade usually takes a while, and you'll be forced to have a dedicated army in Sylvania for the next 50+ turns to fight corruption and rebellions, but the Sylvania's are dense, powerhouse provinces, which gives you strong territories in the East and West. The rest of the empire is spread out and difficult to utilize, so getting your core provinces up and running in time for Archeon's wild ride is pivotal
>>180566357
>Not destroying Norsca, every man, woman and child many years ago.
>>180565346
Usually means I'm zombied out from playing 12 hour+ stretches of whatever map painter game and I should give it a break for 48hours to fill my head with real world things before I go insane and disappear into fantasy computer game world.
ANONS INTERESTED IN TW BECAUSE OF THE SALES
DON'T BUY TWW, IT'S AN INSIDE JOKE TO MAKE NEWFAGS BUY FANTASY HERE
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>>180567017
top kek
>>180567017
Can confirm. Don't buy games. Your time is better spent posting angry comments on youtube.
ANONS INTERESTED IN TW BECAUSE OF THE SALES
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>>180567017
anon...
also, when are we setting up a discord for this bitch? i'm officially past my discord hate phase.
>>180567318
why so salty tho
Total War: Rasputin when?
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>>180563869
all of Blizzards RTS games are shit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC5Ud9_DmeU
FUCK. I can't handle this shit with Chaos fucking around from the north. What do?that time you were a shitty friend
I was thinking
Dark elves and reddit rats's objective is to disrupt the Vortex. But the consequence of that, other than Deamons..
Does it mean we may see Ulthuan sink in game?
>>180567017
>>180567318
>>180567815
See you in 3 days
Is there any reason to marry off your princess agent to another faction in M2TW?
Also how do I get more?
>>180567882
>Does it mean we may see Ulthuan sink in game?
Hopefully.
>>180567882
As a short victory cinematic? Been a little while since we've had those.
So is there an Attila medieval mod yet or not?
>>180568109
They already said we're getting victory cinematics this time. So yes, maybe.
>>180568291
Oh shit, I missed that. Very nice.
>>180567882
>Does it mean we may see Ulthuan sink in game?
Implying CA will go the extra mile for something like that
>>180567882
Maybe as a cutscene
Otherwise, probably not
I would kill for a good 40k rts. Relic destroyed my hopes and dreams with DoWIII. Sega needs to secure that 40k license. They can do the same thing to space combat as they did to naval combat in TWW and make a good 40k game.
>>180567872
>Not honoring your alliances
>>180568558
im a bit disappointed i was expecting the emperor to read it.
>>180568909
He's spent 10k years on the john reading his newspaper. His eyes are too tired.
>>180568909
Guilliman would certainly read it.
>>180544648
why is my shogun updating 2, anyone got a changelog for it
>>180568558
why the fuck would an eldar write to the emperor? Is the wraithlord a cuck?
is wrath of sparta any good
>>180569291
why you just don't use one of those wrath of sparta overhaul mods and try it
Finally bought Warhammer +DLC and played 20 turns as Empire to get a feel for the game. Which faction should I play now? Who had the bestfun?
>>180568909
I am pretty sure some guy wrote a follow up about emperor reading it. I think he sent a blanket.
>>180569437
Dwarfs are OP. Vamp Cunts are fun. Download steel faith overhaul mod after you get a feel of the game.
>>180569584
>Download steel faith overhaul mod after you get a feel of the game.
Hey >>180569437 Absolutely do NOT listen to this man, Steel Faith Overhaul is shit
>>180568909
He read it as it formed in her mind Anon. Big Emps has an entire universe to unfuck in the most slow methodical way possible.
Too bad the kid will grow up to be another piece of fucking shit knife ear cunt that doesn't value human life.
>>180569584
>Steel faith overhaul
Oh yeah and radious too
>>180569437
Skarsnik is most fun faction.
Just don't lose your big spider and you can pull it off.
>>180569584
Reminder that ALL overhaul mods are cheat mods
>>180569437
Dwarfs are absolutely the most beginner friendly, but if you're comfortable enough with the Empire then I don't imagine you need the help.
Personally I would go with Vampire Counts
>>180566551
>>180565951
Remembered that Boris tried to fuck me over whilst i was dealing with the secessionists so i went north instead.
>>180545406
Atilla for campaign
Warhammer for multiplayer
Rome Total War if you like the sessions.
>>180565764
you don't, you get alberic and then have him do guard duty in marienburg with his port bonus to make made dosh in order to fund your campaigns against the orcs and chaos and wood elf shits.
>>180566551
<---------- West
East ----------->
>>180545578
I've been looking for that picture for a long while.
>>180569640
>>180568558
Unlikely friendships like these always get me, fuck.
>>180545974
stupid fuck
>>180570760http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/2036379#search=Lizardman
New to TW, pirated Attila some time ago, now both Attila and Warhammer went on sale so I bought them with all the DLC. I heard there's great mods for Medieval and Rome, should I get them too?
>>180571592
Thank you.
>>180571994
>I heard there's great mods for Medieval and Rome, should I get them too?
Yeah, they've got some good mods. Get them.
Knights! Errant!
>>180569639
>Steel Faith Overhaul is shit
how so my dude?
have you tried building management overhaul?
>>180572816
Too much meme changes in stats. The mod that increases unit size is fantastic though, kill my fps.
Its a shame that warhammer fantasy doesn't have a Tyranid equivalent. Maybe CA can invent one.
Going for Carthage, plan is all of Africa and JUST Phoenicia, any tips
>>180573003
Skaven fill the role of the tyranids.
>>180570327
>Reinforcements for both sides somehow arrive from the same edge of the map
>Trying to micro the main battle whilst my reinforcements deal with the enemy reinforcements
>Have battle realism on so can't pause to give orders
What a clusterfuck of a battle.
>>180573003
Literally Ogres man, The Great Maw is a norn queen
>>180573261
>not putting groups under AI control and then not
>>180564757
cause it's not usable faction
>>180573235
nice my pokermanbattlez1 friend
>>180573342
>AI control
May as well autoresolve at that point.
>>180573235
Loving the music so far
>>180573515
a good commander knows how to delegate tasks down the rank
>>180573235
install this
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=754698092&searchtext=hcp+community
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=225694896&searchtext=better+ai+recruitment
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=668030124&searchtext=more+AI+armies
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691114253&searchtext=human+factor
>>180573247
>>180573342
Neither of them posses the scale and danger of tyranids though. Fucking Chaos fears the nids.
>>180573342
>putting groups under AI control
Not him, but does that actually work at all? Never tried it since I was afraid allied AI would shit itself and lose the battle for me.
You know what i want in warhammer?
Pre-battle speeches like in Shogun 2.
That would be fun as fuck.
like having Grimgor give a silly orc rant, or Vlad being all edgy
>>180573683
Is that you PoM?
>>180573734
I'm doing a vanilla run first, then DeI Romans, then roll charts
>>180573772
>>180573003
>>180573247
>>180573342
They have been pussified in the 7th ed. They are DONE.
>>180573869
This one is p cool too
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=456939791
You won't be able to do all of that, you will drop out of the game after DeI Romans, DeI is overrated, slow, and even easier than vanilla
>have a hard time taking a minor faction settlement because of it's two doomstacks and defensive nature
>next turn when I'm out of sight the settlement is razed and the armies gone
200% spooked
>>180573772
Relative to the setting, skaven and ogres are the closest fantasy has got to nids, ogres with regards to their particular case of consumption, and skaven because of their ubiquity through out the setting.
>>180571345
Inquisitor Klaus doing the God Emperor's work.
Is this because of the women of mars unit pack I have
>>180572996
>Too much meme changes in stats.
what do you mean by this?
>>180573772
skaven literally destroy the old world by crashing a warpstone moon into it in the end times.
Last I checked Tyranids couldn't even take one space marine planet.
Skaven were the greater danger to their setting. Tyranid fans can go back to /tg/
>>180574460
Just a what if picture if Boudica hasn't been one of the most incompetent generals of history.
>>180574578
More like Mannlet destroy the world because he backstabs Gelt who almost finishes the ritual to save all their asses.
So I hear Hawk Riders a shit. When I'm already strapped for money, what could possibly be the use of a 300 upkeep unit that's apparently trash?
>we fight for you my lord and the persian voice lines were ripped from 2
BGeyond annoyed
>>180573660
Jesus christ, thats alot of games installedGhost Recon 1 is best game
HAHA very funny my names Buggs Bunny
For Attila playing as WRE are their only some places that you can build guardhouses (the structure that gives garrisons)? I'm trying to build some in britain but it's telling me I can't build it.
Napoopan worth it for 6 shekels? Any of the dlc/campaigns gaood for it? How buggy is it? Haven't played empire
>>180575473
you can only build them in minor settlements, not in cities
Two questions:
1) How do i handle corruption in a province I want to move into/colonise?
Just sprint to the settlement?
2) Is there a way to eventually stop these beastfuckers from spawning huge armies randomly next to my settlements.
>>180575848
Having any sort of hero in a province will reduce the corruption in that province
You don't, but if you have territory in Estalia keep an army there since they always spawn a second horde there whenever a brayherd spawns somewhere in the world
Is Rise of the Samurai worth playing?
I'm like 10 turns in and it seems like the exact same campaign as the regular one except all of the units are worse.
I feel like if I just play FotS then I won't play any other part of S2 anymore. And to be fair I do really want to play as some gunpowder Japs. I had my fun with archers shooting 800 arrows at the last ashigaru soldier.
Knew I should have recruited mercs
>>180568558
My dream RTS is Wargame: Warhammer 40k. There is so much potential in there.
>>180575939
Well I am playing as Estalia, so it would explain why these fucks keep showing up.
I'm trying to push into the old bretonnian land which is completely desolate and pushing 60% corruption but each time I get ready to go a furry stack appears amidst my province.
>>180576150
How would that work with psykers and heroic units?
>>180575848
Use more agents.
Any agent (or character, period) gives a -2 corruption bonus. I can't remember if that stacks, I know their primary purpose doesn't, like 2 battle priests can't both encourage growth in 1 province.
Battle Priests are good but you'll mostly want them for their experience boost or they really do help out with growth, so get as many as those as soon as you can, that way late game you can hire gold chevron units off the bat for dirt cheap.
>>180562594
TRUE RULER OF EIGHT PEAKS
>>180576232
Pay attention the next time a brayherd event happens - a horde will appear in the exact same spot every time. If you keep a dedicated army there you can wipe them out when they spawn
>>180575737
>you can only build them in minor settlements, not in cities
alright, thanks. guess it's like farms then. do cities have a garrison structure or no are the walls enough?
>>180576312
Addendum: Witch hunters have 2 skills that lower corruption for a total of -6 more, on top of any retainers they get or skills they just happen to develop.
>>180576375
delet
>>180574640
Do you have a single shred of facts to back that up?
>>180576074
>decimate their shitty cav with your gen
>destroy inf by anviling with two inf units and getting them from behind with your javs, followed by a cav charge if your gen has cleaned up their cav and slingers
ez pz battle
>>180576375
THORGRIM
GET THE IRONDRAKES
Poor little Shahanshah
>>180574987
Anyone who says hawk riders are shit haven't actually looked at their melee stats.
>>180546105
rolling
>>180577146
The idea that a skirmishing unit could also do work in melee is too much for most players' puny brains seemingly
>>180576968
Look up the Iceni rebellion.
why do all the troops move so fast, is it because they're all mid inf
>>180577020
Get them yourself you lazy git. You can call for help once you stop being such a ninny and learn how to hold onto your shit.
Campaign of the Old Worlds is a good overhaul desu.
>Play Bretonnia
>dukedoms are fucking stupid strong with 2 full stacks
>Can't confederate.
>Early alliance with Empire.
>End up running around with Louen smashing cunt dwarves, Norscan raiders and expanding into middenland.
I still cry everytime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWZCfdDW4NQ
>>180577447
>he doesn't want to settle a grudge
ARE YOU OUR HIGH KING OR JUST SOME PATHETIC LITTLE RAT BASTARD THAT HIDES UP ON HIS THRONE WHEN OUR ENEMIES COME FOR OUR HOLDS?
>>180546105
Rollan
>>180577447
>lazy git
>git
GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODGE
>tfw you find a good lord item after the first battle of a new campaign
>>180577756
Yes, rats. Blame the rats for your pathetic stunted High King and his lack of spine. We of the rat-people are calling you out we are.
>>180578056
>Tormentor Sword in the first battle
P a r t y
E v e r y
D a y
I am constantly amazed at how fucking good dorf infantry is on the defense.
>decisive victory
>enemy general is stabbed thro8ugh the throat
>blood squirts out whilst he falls to the ground flailing
Noice
>>180578180
wew lad, that happened in my very first campaign, so blessed
>tfw the quest battle weapons are no where near as good as tormentor sword
>>180578294
*stabs you with a mace*
psh
nouthin poursonia, la
>>180578274
Dorfs rek everything on defense as far as I can tell. Unless enemy has a shitload of armorpiercing it is rare to even take that many losses.
>>180578274
>Slayers dead
cry every time.
>>180571345
>cracks on wraithbone armour
Shit art.
>tree hitler has been running around outside the forest for 5 turns
not sure if he's up to something
Man these people are ballsy, always taking the offence, they will make fine slaves to make our purples
>>180578805
lol more like "SHIT"etani :D
>>180578451
On defensive sieges it's even more insane. You can basically leave the computer and come back ten minutes later to a heroic victory.
>>180578472
To their credit, a good chunk of those kills are Aspiring Champions and Trolls. Slayers do their job reasonably well in my opinion, but you'll likely lose most or all them while they do it.
i wish /gsg/ wasn't so shit
>>180546105
Roll me
>>180579080
I wish /his/ wasn't so shit.
>>180578943REEEEEEEEE
This fucking trait system is going into the book, CA.
>>180578274
Dorfs are babby mode
Even their missile units are on the same level as entry level melee shitters on most armies
Once you go dorfs you'll never go back to using any other race
I couldn't play Beastmen, Orkz, VC or Chaos as a result
>>180579129
FUCKING GOBLIN ARCHERS
>>180576032
>Is Rise of the Samurai worth playing?
Yes, everything about it works better than vanilla Shogun 2 imo.
>it seems like the exact same campaign as the regular one except all of the units are worse.
That's the entire point. In vanilla you can literally win the entire campaign with just Ashigaru. If you take more bows than them to force them to attack your yari wall you can kill armies more than double your worth.
In Rise of the Samurai you don't get shit like that at all. Levy are useful, but you can't use them to make up the bulk of your force because they rout so quickly. Having a balanced army in Rise is way more important than vanilla imo.
The pace of the campaign is way better because you need to immediately sort out some proper troops for your army, develop economy enough to start growth going (all your provinces start off way poorer) and tech is sped up so much that you never need to wait around for shit.
In shogun 2 it takes 60 turns to get gunpowder, in Rise of the Samurai it takes 60 turns to reach the bottom of the tree entirely.
Unit variety is better in shogun 2 in theory, but in practise you actually see more variety in a Rise campaign because it doesn't take so long to research everything.
>>180578519
why are your banners pretty
Seriosuly are they suppoused to move this fast, I can't get my mid cav out before their heavy inf engage
>>180579502
Gunpowder is shit in vanilla S2
Short range, slow rate of fire, accuracy is dogshit and no kneel fire
Bow monks are better
>>180576032
At least in rots you have a reason not to just spam the first unit you get all the time, you can actually feel progression going up in tiers and samurai are beasts compared to peasants.
FotS is still different enough from S2 to justify playing them both. Not to mention that for gunpowder I still prefer empire/napoleon due to setting.
>>180579779
And they sallying out somehow does not give me the city, now we must fight through the streets, inch by bloody inch
>>180579261
i wish i was brave enough to kill myself
>>180580015
I wish I could do a standing flip
>>180580140
DUUUUUUUUUDE that'd be SICK.
My friend learned how to do that. It's pretty cool.
Gelt has been dispatched to deal with the Mousillon menace while Bretonnia takes on the Marienburg traitors.
>>180579680
Mod
>>180579848
>he's never used heavy gunners/ hand mortars/ donderbus cav
Can't blame you when it takes 60 turns to research it in the campaign desu senpai
>Playing as Bretonnia/Bordeleaux/Carcassone
>Everything besides your (barely decent) archers and cavalry is dogshit
>Early game is either facing a terrible setup to get rid of both orcs and humans, farming orcs, or having to be constantly on multiple sides so that you can expand somewhat to the south while orcs and WE try to skull fuck you.
>Middle game is fighting humans and confederating Britannia
>Late game is just farming long enough for chilvary purposes
Holy shit, and you guys told me Chaos was the bad part. These campaigns made me want to kill myself, to the pojnt I went for short victory conditions.
>>180580234
>turn 60
>Marienburg is still in the game
Holy shit.
>>180567932
see you in ten minutes
Dwarfs need a gyrocopter that fires cold bullets to slow down enemy cav/chariots.
>>180580234
>Empire
>Barely anything conquered
>Turn 60
What the fuck son.
>>180580140
Not worth the effort, at least in a gym and definitely not in combat. It can be cool to attract some pussy if you do it when girls look I guess
>>180580507
>being this much of a fucking pleb
Bret campaigns are fun
>>180581021
The secondary effects of being able to do a standing flip are nice. I mean, it's not exactly a good well planned goal for fitness, but it's a discrete objective that you can check easily that can encourage physical activity. I think it's good.
>want to finish or at least make significant progress towards finishing my himyar campaign before work next week when I'll be too exhausted
>have that thing where you want to play a game but can't bring yourself to actually start it up
If I change battle difficultly mid campaign does it affect the campaign difficulty? I wanna face big armies but cba for the bonus' ai get in battle
>>180581040
No when a much better human campaign (Empire) is avalaible and I wish I was playing as them instead.
>>180581293
Don't get me wrong, it's nice to train with a clear goal in mind as that can do wonders to motivate you, but you can still get abs even if you can't manage a flip
>>180562381
then he should play History :^)
>>180580771
>playing on easy
>>180581427
no, only changes the AI bonus in battles.
>>180581040
>the English longbow was an OP weapon of its time
>Bretonnia has an ultra shit missile unit and one siege unit
Even if they WUZ KANGZ ARTHUR AND SHIIEET they could have had better archers, catapults with exploding shit for anti-infantry and ballistae for anti-large
>>180581602
Sorry I misinterpreted. Didn't realize that.
Having slewn the asrai, Strole was still lunnerved by that large skull, on closer inspection he found a sword had replaced one of his teeth, 'this would be useful', he muttered to himself.
>>180581458
I find the empire to be a lot more boring desu
I'm not a good enough goy to get both beastmen and wood elves, so it comes down to this: which has cooler lookin units?
>>180580507
Your cavalry annihilates the shit of your enemies though, you don't need much else when Grail knights got 82 base charge that can be upgraded further through lord/building effects and Bretonnia cavalry comes with an ability that increases their charge with another fucking 32%.
Trebuchets aren't bad at all either, their massive arc of fire means you can fire over almost anything and they're a lot stronger than any stupid dumb smelly catapult in the game, being trebuchets and such y'know.
>>180581637
I play on hard all the time. Finished Long Campaign Angrund in 134 turns (and 10 turns were running after a tribal bandit from the north that I had a grudge on).
Don't know how you can get longer unless is Legendary.
Press F to pay respects to Kraka Drakk
>>180581704
They used to have robin hood and his merry band for all their longbow needs
>>180581851
spiky pigs take the cake imo
>>180581704
their archers and trebs are serviceable, they are not great, but then again Bretonnia is cavalry the faction, I am actually surprised at how decent units like the battle pilgrims are
>>180581934
I cri evertim
How do you handle pacing? I feel like I spend too many turns just building and trying to suppress disorder in conquered provinces, so as a result my armies and generals are all bitches when the Huns come knocking
>>180581851
Beastmen. Minotaurs.
>>180581704
Longbows were a meme, they almost never penetrated plate armor IRL and they had to take knights out by aiming at the horses.
Don't forget that the English got bumblasted in the 100 years war at the end, through French cavalry which by then generally had a lot more armor than their agincourt counterparts.
>>180581934
Will they ever get a break? Have never seen a game where they'd be alive apart from the chaos games.
The work continues
>>180582757
being the kislev of dwarfs doesn't help
>>180579404
5 turns in, got Iron Rock. Because of my Goblin Archers, no doubt.
>>180582975
>expanding past the Rhine and Danube
Krumped his head clean off
>>180582757
>>180583048
They were actually wiped out in the 7th Chaos Warriors army book, but I guess CA ignored that in order to sprinkle some Dwarfs in the northern part of map.
>playing Fujiwara rise of the samurai
>sister clan betrays me and I take their shit
>try and turtle for bit, can't expand easily as it means declaring war on a faction with a lot of allies
>everyone starts declaring war on me even though I'm not bordering them
>Both Minamoto & Taira clans declare war
>Eventually Taira & Minamoto make peace and are all only at war with me now even though I still only have 4 provinces and I don't even neighbour most of the clans at war with me
It's fucking ironic as in the intro stresses that the whole point of Fujiwara is to sit back while the two main clans fight out the Gempei war.
>>180583642
Maybe Kraka Drak, but there are still Norse Dwarfs that exist.
>>180578056
I swear my last five campaigns I've gotten a Rhuby Rhing of Rhuin every time. Could be worse I guess.
>The Oak of Ages gets razed
>by Wood Elves
>>180583336
>not civilizing the barbarians
>>180583925
Just another proof that Wood Elves are servants of chaos that only seek blood.
>>180584000
Funny thing about those Barbarians man... you think you're civilising them - but really? They're barbarising you.
>>180583336
unfortunately you need Germania for the victory conditions, and I needed Dacia as a military province closer to the frontlines than my other one in Sequanorum
>>180582975
Looks like your little brother is recovering now that the sassanids are on the defensive, You should vassalize/subjugate them.
>>180583925
Do not trust the Beastman. Do not talk to the Beastman. Ignore the Beastman. You are the stinkin' Beastman and must be removed.
>>180583642
I'm fine with them bending things a bit, honestly, like having Vlad and Isabella being alive. It only adds to the content.
>>180578274
>having fun in my dorfs campaign
>all of a sudden chaos
>chaos marauders, chaos marauders and chariots everywhere
>chariots plowing through two thick blocks of infantry fucking constantly, and one or two always managed to get into my ranged so they get pulled into melee, now my ranged can't counter their marauders who are constantly flinging shit at my hammers and slayers, doing any sort of flanking action on the main line is just asking to have that unit decimated with throwing axes in the back
>chariots impossible to pin, especially with thin spaced units like slayers, so actually taking them out isn't going to happen with anything other than brimstone gyro copters, which are incredibly weak to MARAUDERS
Any army without anti-large cavalry is fucking suffering.
>>180584216
Razing of King's Glade best day of my life.
So if I want to play with guns in FotS, do I need melee troops? I never played Napoopan or Empire.
Can I just recruit the levies at the start?
>>180583925
>Play as Empire
>notice the most Chivalrous of Kings, Louen Leoncoeur, is raiding your region
>with a stack of peasants no less
Can Norscans be good guys? I don't like playing bad guys.
>>180581934
Well, that's Sjoktraken and my secondary army gone.
>>180584360
What about troll hammer torpedoes plus quarrelers in the army? Maybe one gets dagged into melee and the other fires into it?
>>180584558
>barbar scum
>good guys
>>180584589
The Northmen come!
>>180584095
What's your secret to surviving that long?
Well fuck. Now I have to find out which mod did this.
>>180584521
You know what you must do.
>>180584216
At which point in development did CA decide to go from "Ariel, I..." to Mel fucking Gibson?
>>180584521
War ain't free, peasants.
>>180584360
just get like a unit of two of slayers
Is there a mod that removes racial restrictions on settlements?
The beastmen have pretty much raped large portions of land around me.
I want to go secure The Vaults as a human faction but I cannot due to this lame mechanic.
I have "Conquer Anywhere" installed but it doesn't give me an option to colonize the ruins.
>>180585056
>learn the art of the scout equite siege defense
>prepare properly for attila
>secure your borders one theater at a time (britain, germania, pannonia, africa)
>burn every barbarian hovel to the ground
>>180585502
Yeah wait for WH2 to come out
>Finally get TW: Warhammer
>Start off as empire
>Upgrade leadership as much as I can
>Warrior priest and Karl Motherfucking Franz himself inspiring the troops
>Units still break so quickly I have to play at half speed
When will this shit end? I'm still playing fucking Medieval 2, cause it's the last game in the series where I could actually have long battles and use tactics more complicated than "rush enemy, hope they break first".
>>180585502
Odd, Conquer Anywhere should do it...
>>180585869
The only game that had vanilla battles that fast was S2, if it's too fast for you the game is not the problem. There are mods for that anyway.
>MODS SHOULDN'T HAVE TO FIX THIS
I'm sure hoping you're not playing vanilla M2
>>180584558
They can kind-of, sort-of reach neutral status. Several Norscan towns and villages are open to trade with other humans and there are a lot of Norscan warbands acting as mercenaries for whoever has the coin. The problem comes in where almost all Norscans worship the Chaos Gods in one form or another, often under alternate names, epithets, and variations, so even if they aren't crazed zealots, they're still willingly giving power to Chaos even if they don't recognize it as such. Many people of the Empire are descendants of Norscans/Norsii, even if they don't know it, and obviously are not inherently evil, so Norscan Chaos-worship is completely a cultural thing rather than a biological thing.
General rule: the closer a race is to one of the poles, the easier for them to fall to Chaos. That's why the Roppsmen of Troll Country aren't as corrupt as southern Norscan tribes such as the Skaeling, who are in turn not as corrupt as the northern Norscan, tribes such as the Varg, who are not as corrupt as the near-mythic Tong peoples. The Norscan-founded settlement of Skeggi is near the equator and is more like a trade outpost for a wide range of races and nationalities from across the world.
A few Norscans worship Ulric, the wolf god popular in Middenland and Nordland, most notably the Ragnarites of the Order of the Winter Throne. They believe that the future holds an eternal winter known as 'Evernacht' and their primary concern is preparing for it by living in harsh conditions.
>>180586008
Does it not work mid-campaign perhaps?
It wasn't installed when I first started.
>>180586067
The issue isn't that it's fast, it's that it's unsatisfying. What's the point of having cool shit like the reiksguard and gryphon knights, when they can hardly do two charges before the battle's either won or lost? At least in Shogun, there was next to no unit variety, so the "FOR THE SHOGU-OH SHITTU, RUN!" morale system wasn't as much of an issue, cause I wasn't missing out on much. But here, it genuinely feels like I'm missing something.
And yes, yes I do.
>>180585869
>where I could actually have long battles and use tactics
>Med 2
????
>>180586428
>when they can hardly do two charges before the battle's either won or lost?
Depends entirely what enemy you're fighting
>>180586428
Either mod it or try to go the other way around in game: instead of trying to stop people from routing by increasing leadership have them die slower by increasing defensive stats.
And why the hell would you play vanilla M2?
>>180586089
Not that guy, but thank you for the neat lore dump. Where did you find all this Norscan lore?
>>180586428
Play vamps, units don't run, crumbling doesn't matter for low tier units, and pyrrhic victories are misnamed as they give you a recruiting station with which to replenish from.
>>180585120
goblins....
>>180586612
So far, nothing but the dwarves has managed to put up a decent fight. The vampire counts were tough for a bit until I remembered they start falling apart when you take out their lord, so guess who's got 3 great cannons pointed at Vlad's pale ass.
>>180586473
>>180586667
It kind of depends on the faction you're playing as, but I mostly went for england and scotland. Ever seen what happens when you bumrush the armorer building chain and suddenly you've got scottish pikemen in full plate? You can hold off an entire army with a single unit of the fuckers during a siege.
>chaos siegeing me for several turns
>attack will probably come any turn now
>suddenly they all pull back except for two badly mauled stacks
>attack and damage those even more
>others resume siege the following turn
Truly beyond my comprehension.
1-5 Send him back
6-0 Kill him
>>180586720
Memory, scattered around. If you're looking for reading material, try to find the Liber Chaotica and the Tome of Corruption in here: https://pastebin.com/8rnyAa1S
Those are probably the best sources outside of the Warriors of Chaos rule books.
>>180587223
FOOLISH MORTAL YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND OUR ASININE TACTICS
>mfw I see barbars near me
>>180586089
That guy, thanks for the lore dump.
>>180586089
It's worth noting perhaps that the Gospodars (who would become the Kislevites) arrived in Kislev only a thousand years before the 'present' after they fled from the growing shadow of chaos across the eastern steppes. They displaced and absorbed the Ropsmenn and Ungols from present Kislev and pushed them north.
So in the past it was evidently possible for even the steppes to contain non-chaotic tribes. The Norscans themselves migrated from the northern Empire after they were driven out by Sigmar for refusing his rulership.
>>180546105
oplznotskarsnik
>>180587223
Chaos does have a knack for going full retard at the most climactic moments
>>180587074
>Playing Med 2
>Using pikes
How?
Unless you're talking about the gatehouse then spear militia do just fine most of the time against AI armies anyway.
>>180587297
WE TRVE BARBARS NOW
>>180587297
RAISE HIM
>>180587636
Well a running theme of warhammer's setting is "Things are always getting worse." Maybe in the past Chaos's influence wasn't as strong, and now in the present there is no tribe untainted by Chaos?
>>180587691
The history of chaos explained in one sentence.
>>180587691Just as planned.
>>180587757
Anteans?
>>180587757
Clearly the only way to convince them that you're not barbaric is to conquer, sack and raze various cities at random.
>>180586428
>gryphon knights
oh my god you're the fucking flying units are bullying my artillery guy again arent you
>>180587717
Because they don't do "just fine", I've had several battles against the french that basically went
>They blow a hole in the wall
>Plug it up with pikemen
>Crossbowmen fire at them
>Pikemen don't give a fuck
>Peasants charge in
>Pikemen don't care
>Proper infantry charges in
>Pikemen don't care
>Cavalry charges in
>Pikemen are slightly amused
>Crossbowmen finally run out of ammo and charge in
>Pikemen feel slightly insulted that the AI thinks this'll do anything
Battle won: AI lost 500+ men, I lost 17 pikemen. It's not enough that I beat my enemies. I must crush them, see them driven before me and to hear the lamentations of their women.
>>180587456
>even with that the Chaos stacks look like enough to overwhelm me
>out of fucking nowhere some Orc Waaagh comes in from the west
>Chaos sends like three stacks at it and win, though they take quite a few casualties
>this is what they're attacking with now, a little over two stacks
>I have a full army and a full garrison, with fully upgraded towers
>tfw possibly saved by fucking orcs
>Siege towers and battering rams on a map without 'walls' or gates
>can't attack siege towers with normal units
>they are just steam rolling through my lines like behemoths
hmm
>>180587765
Yeah, basically. Chaos grows stronger year by year and the chaos waste's 'event horizon' moves further south.
Whether there are Norscan tribes untainted by chaos now is really down to interpretation, but since Norscans can be found serving as mercenaries and traders throughout the Old World, there are some that are at least untainted enough to not be on a witch hunter's 'kill on sight' list.
>>180588294
Grimgor's legacy lives on. Green iz best.
>>180588294
Archaon getting an ork boot to the nuts again.
>>180588286
Vampires, they come in two flavors Vanilla Counts and Strawberry Carsteins.
>>180588286
I just did a battle where I had 1 noble pikemen and the french had 3 town militia, 2 peasants, 2 spear militia, a general, and 2 peasant archers.
They broke the gate, charged my pikes and they immediately drop the fucking pikes and use their swords.
>>180588369
OUT
FUCKING
SKILLED
>>180588757
I think your pikemen may have autism.
>>180588831
He shouldn't have vaccinated them.
>>180583642
didn't gotrek n felix go up there? weren't there still a few survivors?
>>180588810
well, their army is dead except for these 4 peasent bowman in the towers.
They can't kill me and I can't kill them.
Surely CA would have had the foresight to make AI drop siege equipment if they are unable to do anything (i.e get stuck).
>>180587757
The Huns will never know to look for us this far to the east. Our king is a fucking genius!
>>180588757
I wish total war players lobbied for better AI in these fucking games
not prettier graphics, not expensive licences but an AI that doesn't act like a toddler
>>180553993
I don't get it.
>>180589120
No, that was Karak Dum, which is in the Chaos Wastes, even further north than Kraka Drak.
>>180589406
I wish total war player would lobby for social links and sex scenes
Is it bad to care about the aesthetic of borders in Total War games?/gsg/ not even once
>>180589406
Improving AI would mean dropping other things since it's relatively harder to do well than other aspects of game design
>>180589615
The mess that Atilla usually ends up being bothers me slightly
>>180589557
More like Kraka Dumb, lol
>>180589727
That's going into the book, me lad.
>>180589557
Got to wonder what kind of special attitude you have to have as a people to live in the chaos wastes and think "this is acceptable, lets stay"
Will Abaddon the despoiler-kun ever match Archeon-senpai's successes? Or will he remain the eternal cuck?
>>180589675
it's literally something they would only have to get right once because with the exception of poop and empire all of their games are melee mayhem hammer and anvil stuff at their core
>>180589615
Painful memories.
>>180589812
I imagine the one in BDSM gear is the Slaaneshi one, yeah?
>>180588369
>>180589240
what map is this?
>>180589790
Apparently it is on the very border of the Chaos Wastes, so maybe when it was founded the taint wasn't that close.
Goblin Dabbing
>>180589960
Yup. The order is
Khorn>Nurgle>Slushi>keikaku
>>180589970
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=886666979
It's in the GCCM packs so beware.
Never realized that you can side with revolutions, what should I do now as the Prussian Republic?
>>180588294
Sometimes those random Skulltakerz spawns their a real wrench into normal campaign play.
Once I'd found them fully colonized in Kraka Drak bullying the Norscans.
>>180589557
ah my mistake, it's been a long time since I read daemonslayer
>>180589863
They do want to keep adding more stuff to the games that will change how combat works though, despite memes about muh depth, and getting it "right" even from this point is going to take a metric fuckton of effort
An AI is pretty much always going to fail when it comes across a scenario that doesn't exist in the base game
AHHHH NORSCA WHEN
>>180590204uninstall darthmod and install imperial splendour
September 3rd
>>180590164
what's wrong with the GCCM packs?
>>180588757
Pikes don't charge, they walk forward
>>180590284
it can fail all it wants when it comes to those situations but I'd like it to not shit the bed in the most basic of 1v1 skirmishes
>>180590367
How am I supposed to wait that long
Fuck
>>180589406
>implying people don't shit on the AI every single entry and make it clear that CA should improve it
Players lobby for making it better all the time, CA is just incompetent and retarded when it comes to AI design.
>>180590515
By buying Northgard on the Steam Store Sale!
>>180590625
I doubt there's many game developers on this planet that are actually good at AI
>>180590384
Sometimes AI doesn't know what to do in them and there's no walled siege battles for dwarfs or orc settlements currently
>>180590663
I guess the Paradox games have good AI, maybe?
>>180590384
I actually play with it but it has its flaws:
Some of the maps are clearly designed for big, 4v4 multiplayer battles. In some maps it takes forever for units to get somewhere and the AI pathfinding sometimes fucks up. Some of the maps don't have walls or towers, which means you lose a bit of the defensive advantage, though there are mods that reinforce your garrisons if it bothers you.
From what I've understood the modders are relatively limited by what tools CA has provided. If I've read the steam description right, it was only recently that they managed to figure out how to do it without the AI fucking up.
Even with all that, I still use it though. Not having to play the same maps over and over is worth it.
>>180590663
they should just hire the guys who did FEAR's AI and call it a day
>>180590795
Hahaha
t. /gsg/
>>180590795
For the most part they have competent AI. You can still abuse the fuck out of their reasoning for alliance and war but for the most part they act logically. Especially the war AI is quite good in EUIV.
>>180590869
GOAP is pretty neat. Loved how dynamic the FEAR soldiers were when they had the room to move around.
why is cataph the best modder
>>180590384
see >>180588369
>>180589240
A lot of the maps aren't designed for singleplayer campaigns.
The Ai freak out and can be buggy or straight up retarded.
places like Karak Izor are incredibly easy to defend as the Ai trickles into a single gate on one side of the map and the rest of the army just stands in front of the towers.
>>180590795
Not a fucking chance
I guarantee that the AI in their games is ignoring most of the mechanics in the game and is able to brute-force the most efficient mathematical solution to the ones it's actually paying attention to
>>180590869
FEAR gets called out for having good AI a lot, but it's also quite a bit different from what total war has to deal with, and it arguably has a lot simpler requirements in order to appear competent
>>180590963
I meant battle AI in the last part.
>>180590993
they made it look like they developed something sentient, when it was just clever placement of if else statements, beautiful
>>180591095
wtf, friendship with FEAR over
>>180591095
And maps designed around those of else statements
>>180590860
>Even with all that, I still use it though. Not having to play the same maps over and over is worth it.
Even with it's flaws, many of the maps themselves are beautifully done and can be fun to fight on. Not to mention they didn't just throw all the maps together and call it a day, they keep adding new ones and working to improve the old ones, like making the older ones siege compatible now they know how. Even with it's problems, it's worth using I'd say.
How the fuck does anyone enjoy playing as dwarves?
>No cavalry
>no magic
>no monsters
>only unit that's interesting at all is gyrocopters and they're only barely not boring
Literally the only fun thing is spouting random words in khazalid.
>>180591363
You're in the fucking book, lad.
>>180591363
If you do not enjoy repaying grudges in grobi blood, I'm not sure I can help you.
>>180591363
Hmm, lets which pages are empty. Ah, the twat list still has space.
>>180591000
His work on rome 2 is really good too, top tier skins
>>180591363
I don't have fun with Bretonnia, Chaos or WE.
Is all a matter of opinion.
>>180588757
>>180588831
>>180589406
I heard somewhere that that's a bug with guard mode and the pikemen use their pikes if you don't put them in guard mode.
Why
How the FUCK are they gonna balance delf machineguns and rats minigun?
>>180590860
A somewhat funny example of the limitations of the assembly kit is how the modders make bridges. Since the actual bridge props can't be walked on, they had to get clever:
https://imgur.com/a/xdsFf
>>180590795
Nah. They're still very, "Kill the player at your own cost." Instead of acting like a human would for the good of their own nation with intent to win instead of just making the player lose or be hindered.
>>180591749
Yeah, I forgot about that. They did fine with guard mode on, but it's not worth stocking a town with professional soldiers when you have free ones. Major inconvenience to retrain them after battle. Also I think you can't order an attack command or make them move or it's game over.
>>180588294
Archaon was born to be bullied!
Aaaaahhhh,
>>180591941
To be fair it's not like that never happened irl
>>180546105
Rolling
>>180591806
Did you spam raise dead? One of the main reasons VC don't really give 2 fucks about Slayers is because zombies are actually really good at killing them with their 0 armour and low unit size.
>-235 public order per turn
I know people get mad but come on
>>180592348
aaahhhhh....AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!
>>180590663
The only problem about total war AI is lack of warscore, and that they make armies that are fucking nonsense so Battle AI is shit anyway
>>180592348
>Rome actually grows in size as you build shit
>Hoveldorf remains tiny
Why don't the Japs have shields?
>>180592337
Archaon dead, End Times cancelled. And it was all thanks to the Norse Dawi, no greenskins had anything to do with it.
>>180591941
People will never be satisfied with Campaign AI until CA adds a option to choose how the AI will behave
For example, a lot of guys like Age of Charlemagne AI because it actually accepts peace treaties, want alliances and trade agreements, and doesn't start war a lot. It makes for a easier game so other guys don't like that much
And a lot of people like Attila diplomacy because it's like you against the world, unpredictable and really unforgiving, sometimes it looks like a fucking world war, AI also raids you a fucking lot and cripples your economy hard in attrition wars
>>180593000
Inbredness
Even aztecs had shields
>>180593000
BLOCKING ARRUS IS MUCH DISHONORU
>>180593000
They used to but it fell out of favor for whatever reason. Some things like o-yori shoulder guards and pavise-esque screens were the closest you'd typically get to shields, although there were exceptions, like pic related.
>>180593000
They actually had them in the 11th century. Dropped them in favor of Long Bows(Not the English variant) and two-handed polearms and greatswords. Plus pike and bow(transitioned into guns) started to become standard for ashigaru. Pretty similar to what happened in europe.
>>180593394
When arr rook same no matter if brother is kill. Just find other brother who rook same.
>>180593000
Just did some quick checking.
Apparently Jap sword fighting comes from spear fighting. Samurai are horsemen and didn't have stirrups so had to hold the reigns or use their knees.
So horses, spears and bows all lend themselves poorly to shields apparently. Just an entirely different evolution of war on the other end of the world where Europeans got it from the Greeks.
>>180593000
Same deal with crossbows; there's records of them, they just weren't super popular. Hard to construct and maintain given the resources available. One guy invented a bolt-thrower type thing but it never caught on. Pic unrelated.
>>180589385
FUCK!It ok. TRVE BARBAR NEED NO FRIEND
>>180593586
Chinese used shields
Korean used shields
And until tokugawa there was a fucking lot of interactions with the mainland
There is no fucking reason for nips to not use shields, they werent in a vacuumed environment
>>180593708
Good luck fending off the inevitable Sassanid & Co swarms
How in the heck do I make peace with everyone in the black zone? I only have one and a half armies, whereas each faction I'm at war with has two or three to themselves.
Also Apulii sitting their saying they're my best friend meanwhile refusing to help in any way
1 - Shogun 1
2 - Medieval 1
3 - Medieval 2
4 - Empire
5 - Poops
6 - Shogun 2 (FotS)
7 - Rome 2
8 - Atilla
9 - Warhammer
0 - Fap and roll again
dubs - Can't reroll until you fap twice
trips - keep fapping
Quads -Buy EU4 and all of it's DLC
Quints - Try to get a refund for every CA game you have until Steam bans you for harassment or something
So mods won't be compatible at all with Warhammer 2 combined map right
>>180593797
>And until tokugawa there was a fucking lot of interactions with the mainland
>a fucking lot of interactions
If by a lot you mean occasionally and by interactions you mean wako pirates raiding Chinese ships then yes
>>180593708
>Only Germanic
>Not Slavic
Racist bastard.
>>180594296
Depends on the mod, most will probably be fine with some tweaking. They'll need to be re-uploaded to the TWW2 workshop as well.
>>180591363
Cannons, heavily armored units
But by this logic both of us should enjoy Chaos Dwarfs
>>180594303
Their government,architecture, writing and religion were all mainland influenced
What the fuck you talking about
Histfag here, just bought shithammer put of interestloving every second of it so far
>>180579848
>putting the hand held rockets in your gate house
>firing into a mass of samurai below
fuck you gun powder is good in vanilla. also true pike and shot tactics with spear ashigaru in spear wall with gunners behind
>Meet Pergamon
>Pergamon declares war
>Meet Egypt
>Egypt declares war
>Meet Athens
>Athens declares war
Is it just me or are the pace of battles too fucking quick in warhammer. Feels like tactics and strategy have taken a backseat to tactics and strategy.
Like, the unit speeds are fine and everything, it's not like I want to play the game at half speed, but the unit hit points and stamina are too low. In other total war games it's usually not too bad, though it seemed a bit quicker in Attila, but in warhammer it's awful when you're juggling so many god damn commander/unit abilities and spells, reacting to flying units, and dealing with certain units making giant fucking holes in your lines worse than any cataphract charge.
Maybe I'm just kind of shit, but I remember shogun 2 and rome 2 having a bit slower pace to where you'd at least have a limited amount of time to assess the situation and adjust. You could make a mistake, but still have time to get reinforcements where they're needed and re position units and just adapt to what's happening. Now if your positioning isn't just right you end up with major problems fucking immediately that result in an extreme amount of casualties and big problems on your line before you can even begin to react. Most of my warhammer battles end up in cluster fucks where I'm having to order units at a frenzied pace without being able to think and I can hardly do basic shit like handle my cavalry competently because I'm dealing with so much other shit.
I would hope that warhammer 2 would be a little bit better, but I have no reason to expect it.
>>180591853
Dorfs aren't one of the main races.
>>180595548
>Feels like tactics and strategy have taken a backseat to tactics and strategy.
topkek fuck me. I went to reword it and didn't fix it. Meant to say taken a backseat to fast paced arcade gameplay
>>180595548
>Feels like tactics and strategy have taken a backseat to tactics and strategy.
Also, this is what the pause button is for if you need it
I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!
>>180595548
>it's not like I want to play the game at half speed
as soon as battle starts I usually immediately turn half speed on because I easily get overwhelmed and need it to manage the battles and even then I do a shit job of it
>>180595548
>Feels like tactics and strategy have taken a backseat to tactics and strategy
I agree.
Faster pace just means you get punished for fuck-ups faster, so you still need decent tactics /strategy.
is total war atilla good? what dlc is worth it? what dlc for rome2 is worth it?
>>180596063
I'm going to dominate a best elf!
Buy me Kingdom!!
>>180595548
Ive played few total war games in the past and recently started playing warhammer all day every day due to the crack. It is pretty difficult to appreciate all the cool units the game offers due to the pace. Dwarves have been my favourite since when im on a defensive stance I can usually see any weaknesses or flaws, maybe having to pause every once in a while to regroup.also if anyone wants to play/teach me in cracked multiplayer battles id love to play that
This was way easier than I thought it would be.
>>180596604
Lizardmen are all such happy lads.
Bows or crossbows in Attila? Is the extra damage good enough?
>>180596829
Wait.
What?
>>180596604
HOLA
>>180596829
Nigga what.
>>180596905
SKEENKS
>>180596829
WEW
>>180596604
>>180596859
>>180596905
>>180596995
Imagine how happy they'll be when you burn and raze skavenblight
Julii 1-3
Brutii 4-6
Scipii 7-9
>>180596829
Everyday I'm shuffling.That's a lot of shufflers.
>>180596547
kys
lore of shadow tho
>>180596829
I mean, yeah. They're zombies. You want a trophy?
>>180597425
Still was outnumbered 10:1. I expected to win but with maybe half my troops gone.
>>180597325
:[:]
>>180597520
Maybe try again but with peasant mobs instead.
QUESTION ABOUT DLC
Will blood and gore dlc work for all 3 games? They wouldnt try to sell that several times I hope.
I think the answer is yes but mild worry hath befallen me.
>>180598121
It will.
Such a nice little lad.
Why oh fucking why did they design the elves the way they did.
>isolationist faction
>forced to pillage and raze gold because of low building income
>have to paint the map to get technologies and progress infrastructure
Fuck I know designing them to just turtle in their forests wouldn't make for a fun campaign but this is just silly.
Has anyone ever found any use for warrior-spec generals in Shogun 2?
>>180598570
They're mindnumbing for people who hate map painting and raiding economies
The fuck am I supposed to do with Leoncour in the early game, just sit his ass in the countryside and hope beastmen pop up so I have something to fight?
>>180598570
>low building income
what are you on about?
Once you have most of Athel Loren you get the cumulative bonus from that wine building that gives you the most insane income ever.
Is the Norsca as the warhammer 1 new unlockable faction thing basically confirmed? Or is it just speculation?
>>180598598
What use would there be? It's more of a flavour thing.
If you max out the tree your general would probably be an insane unit as you'd have tree bonuses + experience bonuses, but he'd never have the impact stand & fight would.
>>180598801
Slaughter greenskins.
Take Marienburg.
Crusade on greenskins and /or Norsca.
Praise ze Lady.
Finally bought Wood Elves. How to bake them mates? I play on very hard.
Basically, my issue with the economy. I barely can field a 10/20 stack while I'm surrendered by cunts who easily field 20/20 stacks. So far, the only way to make some money is to raid and raze. Captured outposts are useless and can't defend on their own.
Fellow Elves don't give a fuck about me. Belegar and his Italian buttbuddies eventually DoW me and start spamming doom stacks at my direction.
So far I just spent like 40 turns doing jack shit basically. Bear with me, because I'm stupid.
Do I start fighting against other Elves? It seems hard to farm amber and gold to unlock level 3 tree for confeds.
>>180598880
yeah but until then the income is garbage and you can field 1 full army and then a couple units into another one before your income is at 0. Then again, I'm not taking the other trees by force and I'm stuck with the one until I can confederate.
>>180598801
Farm rebellions
>>180599275
>this kills the farms
>>180599087
>Take Marienburg.
I already made a non-aggression pact with them, did I fucked up?
>Crusade on greenskins and /or Norsca.
How do I do this without triggering every lord in the Empire? There's those niggas up in the hills above Marienburg I guess but they're just one settlement.
>>180599190
So, intentionally have low control and then put down the uprisings?
I hope the races on TWW2 are on par with Dwarfs/Angrund, Empire and VC in terms of fun.
Not having too much entertainment with Bretonnia, Wood Elves or Chaos.
Beastmen and Greenskins are fine too, I guess.
>>180598801
Bumrush orcs on turn 2. If battle went good, siege Marienburg. After that, start working toward confederation tech and start uniting realms. Praize ze lady.
>>180599336
Yes
>>180599373
Also, go kill some Norscan fucks while you tech towards confederation.
>>180599336
>did I fucked up?
Verily. Marienburg is fucking loaded with cash.
>How do I do this without triggering every lord in the Empire?
Boats exist for a reason, brave knight. There's like 5 easily-accessible Norsca settlements on the coasts.
To properly fuck up the greenskins you'll want military access tho, yeah.
>>180600042
I guess I'll try to salvage this campaign without the Burgers, and next time I'll know to fug them.
>>180600634
Of note, farming rebellions only works really well for brets because of the early game orc event.
>>180600634
Ze Lady would be pleased. And Marienburg just might backstab you at some point anyway.
>>180600814
It's also the most boring cheese imaginable.
Well I hope they take the bait because the balance of power was heavily against me. Probably just because of that arachnarok spider...
>>180600896
Fair point, but I was playing Alberic and it gave me something to do while playing fuck fuck games with mousilion.
>>180600896
>It's also the most boring cheese imaginable.
20 early game turns hardly take up a lot of time. It's there because most of your neighbours aren't valid targets except if you want to go non-chivalrous.
>>180600929
Do you not understand how to play wood elves?
>>180601151
>most of your neighbours aren't valid targets
Not an issue if you play best Bretonnia, Louen has plenty of enemies to choose from.
But yeah, Feet Enchantress and Alberic don't have a whole lot to do that early on.
So uh
Does anyone of the closed beta to rise of mordor?
>>180599364
>I hope the races on TWW2 are on par with Dwarfs/Angrund, Empire and VC in terms of fun.
Warhammer 2 is going to shit all over Warhammer 1
Just what we know is that these factions are far more unique, more polished and more powerful than the W1 factions.
Its going to be W2 > W1 > > > W3
>>180600929
apparently not, I just got the DLC. My roster is shit because it's just a garrison and a small army I was starting to build just eternal guards in to settle a couple of ruins.
>at least 10 onagers, most of them large onagers
>at least 12 cataphracts
>at least 10 crossbow cav
oh boy
Willing to make a new thread, but I have limited access to relevent pics at the moment, so I'm willing to let someone else do it.
>>180601753
You lazy sod
Here
>>180601904
>>>180601904
>>180601904
>>180594286
rolling for warhammer
>>180601751
Get the lube romeboi
>>180598570
You can get the same amount of amber from trade treaties with factions so you don't have to conquer for that.
But yeah they do need some better alternatives to income. Trade overall in this game is nearly pointless.
>>180587223
They're lulling you into a sense of false security.