/dadg/ - Darkest Dungeon general

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artificial difficulty

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hmm...

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>baron almost dead
>does one last aoe
>kills pd and hellion

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MUSKETEER UPDATE IS HERE SINCE PEOPLE AREN'T NOTICING IT ENOUGH

>https://mega.nz/#!YqoElApC!Hg68PKDqlhrMJRUgrFcvNNCPYIiQuQYiD7FtEtKGa14

copy and paste the contents into darkest dungeon folder on steamapps
do what the readme file said + also run localization.bat on the crimson court folder


need help testing it out to see if there are mistakes, particularly with the trinkets.

Trinkets still dont have their icon until a backer uploads them to the wiki or here, it's the only thing I'm missing

Can someone explain the shrieker to me?

It nabbed 8 of my trinkets randomly and getting them back is a level 5 quest despite my highest hero's being level 3.

I also lost the healing head trinket in the courtyard, can I find it on the collector/ in a secret room again or do I have to kill the shrieker to get it back?

>>180587551
>holy warrior of light
.drank ALL OF THE ALE in the tavern

>>180587879
the shrieker runs away after a few turns and you'll get your trinkets back
if you want them back with lvl 3 heroes go for a tank/dodge party and survive until he runs away

What're the recommended building upgrades to pursue first, or is it okay to upgrade everything equally (skills, armor, disease cost, quirk cost, etc.)?

>>180588082
Shrieker is a big enough joke I throw 0's at the champion, occultist and whoever else and it's set if, bonus if you can guard the occultist, usually toss them all afterwards but they do jump to resolve 2

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>>180588795
getting the vintner and blacksmith/guildmaster should be the priority, everything else is kinda secondary to what they provide.

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Any tips on dealing with the Fanatic ? recommended party composition ?
This party got wiped but he's on my ass again

>>180589070
don't be a filthy heretic
in all seriousness prioritize the pyre as much as possible. Once it's gone, he stops being The Hag But Better and becomes just a tough miniboss.

>>180587772
whoever makes the next thread put this in OP for fuck's sake

>>180588082

How do I properly use the Antiquarian? What are their good skills, camping skills? What party do they resonate well with, position placement. Everytime I use her, it gets my team completely rape.

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Shambler altar ahead, apprentice difficulty. Can I take on him with this party?

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this guy fuckin loves the cove

>>180589739
How much will a shuffle fuck you based on skills?

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>>180587772
is this going to change the musketeer I have now, or add another musketeer class in addition to her?

>>180587879
was in the same situation last thread, check some of the last posts, I managed to deal with it

Anyone here with those graphs based on the announcer's remarks?

REELING

>>180589514
She's a pretty nice support
Pair her up with the MAA, have her spam Protect Me on him, have him get the riposte skill
She can also spam the aoe dodge buff and use her heal to get people off death's door/nothing else to do
On blight comps the can be used to lower enemy's blight resistance
Take her against the syren, she will likely be targeted by her first + her resistance camping skill is great for that fight

>>180589514
Low level, rank 1-2, spam Protect Me! on your main tank and take out targets of opportunity with stab. Good main tank targets:
>Highwayman: boost to dodge and prot makes him fairly beefy, and he can alternate Duelist's Advance and Point Blank Shot for great damage and ripostes, Protect Me! redirects more attacks for his ripostes
>M@A: Weaker riposte, but beefier tank
>HM: Strong dodge tank
>Flagellant: Benefits from taking the party's damage himself for Exsanginates

At higher levels, her party-wide dodge buff scales better than Protect Me

>>180589739
>>180590060
Looks like the hellion and vestal are in the most danger.
Hellion can only If It Bleeds from rank 3, and can only Iron Swan if she stays in rank 1
Vestal most likely has none of her frontline skills equipped.
Houndmaster could be screwed if he ends up in slot 1, and so could graverobber, but at least she has shadow fade to fix herself.

>>180590179
for people who already have her added as another hero, I suspect no changes

>>180590303
I'd go for it, Apprentice is the easiest time to get those trinkets AND they're a bigger boon for you early on

>>180590291
Protect Me works pretty well with a Bulwark of Faith Crusader, too. It pretty much makes your front line immune to normal damage.

>>180590389
I'm not the guy, I was just seeking to provide a skill analysis based on likely builds and what the hellion's skills were.

>>180590303
The Vestal has her mace bash that I could still equip
Hellion also has Breakthrough but I didn't need that for now so I momentarily ditched that
Houndmaster had his cudgel

But I think that I'm going to bail out on this one, don't want to lose the stuff I found in that secret room(3 of those rocks that are worth 4500ish)

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Wish me luck

>finally get another grave robber in the caravan
>both lazy eye and scattering
>ranged attack and ranged damage debuffs

for fucks sake, should i still recruit them and rehabilitate them later, or just wait for another one to come along? still haven't gotten a fucking leper either, its week 16.

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>courtyard
>short mission
>SHORT

>>180589514
All her unique camping skills are pretty good for their cost, actually. At the very least you'll want Trinket Scourge, though.

>Be peaceful fish priest.
>Live your days out in the Cove with your pet crab and waif, occasionally hunt a whale with your friends.
>Live in fear of the boats the humans keep ramming into your house.
>Then one day a bunch of them barge in and go around pouring shit into your coral and breaking your bas reliefs.
>Go out and shake your rattle at them to try and convince them to leave.
>Some freak in a bird costume throws poison in your face.
>The last thing you see as the blight takes you is the humans killing your waifu and stealing your gems.

>>180590679
>Bringing the Leper to a Prophet fight
I know the pews seem like valuable trinkets, but he's not going to do fucking anything in the fight except hit pieces of wood.

Should I put subtitles on the bottom or top?

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Ever since the DLC update, my crusader skins have been fucking up like this but only for the idle battle animation. Everything else works fine. Anyone know how to fix this?

>>180590679
>leper with no occultist to spam weakening curse
sorry anon but not even luck can help you

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>>180590951
i didn't really have anyone else besides my Hellion (who honestly wouldn't have been any better) to bring to the fight. So i just chose to stick with pure un-adulterated tankiness.

>>180587192
Anyone know why I can't use Food to cleanse the Sacrificial Altar in the Warrens? Food is greyed out and I can't drag it to the item slot

>>180591201
The combat idles for crusader were updated, you'll have to wait on your skin mod authors to fix them accordingly.

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Is the Viscount supposed to be hard? I just killed him in like 2 rounds and took literally 0 damage from his fight. Perhaps I just obliterated him with critical ripostes, but I still cannot believe that was it.

>>180591274
it's the Prophet fight. you don't need tanks, you just need to keep everybody off of death's door. The Hellion could at least have Iron Swan and hit the boss.

>>180591274
>Hellion (who honestly wouldn't have been any better)
>what is Iron Swan

Everyone plays on Stygian/Bloodmoon, right?

>>180591292
Shit. That fucking sucks.

>>180591378
no

>>180591274
How is the Hellion not better for the prophet? She is the one frontliner who can constantly hit Rank4 hard as Rank1

>>180591371
>>180591462
I understand Iron Swan, but i felt better having a tankier Frontliner

>>180591532
>>180591532
Once again
>needing tanks
>for the Prophet
you have a vestal with party heal. that's all you need.

Any way I can easily change my Arbalests into Musketeers after installing the mod?

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does +stress healed increase the stress heal that inspiring cry does, or does it increase how much it is healed on himself?

>>180589862
Too bad bleeds suck in the Cove.

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>>180591634
eh, its to late now

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I would assume this trink is worth it, y/n?

>>180590951
Leper is argueably the best choice for destroying pews.

>he's not going to do fucking anything in the fight except hit pieces of wood
He doesn't need to, Prophet is braindead easy anyways, might as well make some money.

>>180592056
>calling it a trink
fucking neck yourself
but yeah pick it up if you've got the cash and no other better trinkets.

>>180590354
so a restart is required?

>>180592056
>-50% healing received
>no DODGE
Not really. Houndmaster ain't a dedicated damage dealer so that +15% DMG doesn't do that much for him, he's a bit of a jack-of-all-trades.

>>180587192
Two of my heroes are craving blood from town.
Is the only way to feed them, inside a dungeon?
Also what happens if I don't feed them? Do they die? Do they transmit it to other heroes?

>>180591458
why not?

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>Find server cart in Courtyard.
>Don't have any herbs but try for it anyways with Flagellant.
>Gives him Stress Eater.
>Find another one.
>"May as well try again with him, it's not like it can give me the quirk a second time."

>>180590951
god tier mark and can destroy 2 pews. what more do you want

>>180592223
They drink blood on their own right before dying in the Hamlet, assuming you've got any blood available. Transmitting the disease happens when pairing a cursed hero in a stress/quirk healing facility with a non-cursed hero.

>>180592142
>>180592189
Thanks for the info buds

>>180592223
>Is the only way to feed them, inside a dungeon?
They will use the blood you have while in Hamlet if they are close to dying.

>Also what happens if I don't feed them? Do they die?
Yes.

>Do they transmit it to other heroes?
If you put CC and non-CC heroes in the same building at the same time, the non-CC hero might be infected.

>>180592223
Heros go from normal, to craving, to wasting. If you leave them in town they test to see wether they'll go to the next stage or stay put, you can see it in your log. At wasting the next time you leave town they'll take one of your blood vials and go back to normal, if you don't have any blood any wasting heroes will die.

>>180592242
Quirks become locked if you get them twice.This applies to positive quirks as well. This can be both beneficial and detrimental.

On one hand, if a quirk you didn't like locks in, you can lock one less quirk of your choice. On the other hand, once you lock 3 quirks of your choice, you can use this to lock 2 more.

Will my heroes still automatically consume blood if they have the Rat Corpse?

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Posting again.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13263425

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>finish quest
>one room left with an enemy on the way
>it's fanatic
i'm not sure if i like the game actually tearing me a new one or not

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so long gay bowser

Does torchlight go down slower if you're backtracking? My light level was just decreasing by 1 instead of larger chunks until I got to unexplored area and I'm really confused

>>180592926
Nice one, senpai

>>180593001
If you have explored the area already, it lowers your torch by 1 instead of the usual amount.

>>180593001
Yes, torch level goes down slower when your going through halls you've already explored.

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>>180592914

>>180593049
>>180593081
Huh. Never knew that, not sure how I've never noticed. Thanks.

Does anyone have the quick guide with all the class builds? Thanks.

>>180592760
I think so. As far as I can tell the best use for the Rat Corpse is to pair it with a Mantra of Fasting and give them to a wasting hero on a quest so you don't have to give them blood for the duration of it.

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>>180593150
Fanatic is cute! CUTE!

Fuck sakes lads, first time player here

>roll into a dungeon
>Don't expect a boss
>Boss keeps summoning more and more mooks everytime I clear his mooks
>Makes the mooks protect him while also buffing himself
>Also the mooks can heal him
>Have no way of hitting boss
>everytime I kill all mooks he summons more they immediately heal him

This is just an endless stalememate, it's bullshit

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>tfw they will nerf Flagellant like they did to Abom

>>180593470
>don't expect a boss
nigga the quest title was 'kill one necromancer's apprentice' how could you not expect a boss.
also get fuckin good and bring a 4 crusader party.

>>180593470
you can cancel guards by stunning the person who is guarding. Or you can ignore the guard by attacking both the enemy guarding and the guarded enemy at the same time.

>>180593539
He was probably referring to the collector.

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when the Bloodsuckers change forms what do they gain exactly? all I know is that the Mosquitos get a better stun chance and a new move to wreck the back row with

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would you?

>>180589357
>in all seriousness prioritize the pyre as much as possible. Once it's gone, he stops being The Hag But Better and becomes just a tough miniboss.
The pyre has a lot pf HP though. In the time it took to destroy the Pyre you could easily take away more than half of his health.

>>180593846
yes

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>>180593470
>game tells you it's a boss level
>don't expect a boss
anon you what

But in case it's the collector, you can stun the man-at-arms head to disable his guard. Having heroes that can cleave are good, so is stuns to prevent him from summoning new ones.

Any art of skeeter heroes yet?

Is Vestal, Grave Robber, Bounty Hunter, Leper safe for the first court mission and croc? Leper has Natural Swing.

>>180593539

New player as well, I took the necromancer apprentice quest with a group of level 2 heroes, man at arms, bounty hunter, grave robber, vestel. I get into the dungeon, made an educated guess (split off into two seperate directions) then went in. After the first room, I noticed I couldn't increase the light. Like the dump fuck I was, I didn't buy any torches. I figured I'd see how it went. The direction I chose was the right one, and I got to him after about 6 rooms in total darkness. Didn't even camp before hand.

Went in completely blind to his mechanics, and he starts summoning skellingtons and then moving back. Ok, sucks a bit, but then I realized that grave robber and bounty hunter both did extra damage to marked targets. BH marked him, and grave digger ended up doing 70% of the damage herself with her throwing knife, including a 20 damage crit at the very end. Man at arms just focused on the summoned skellingtons, bounty hunter alternated helping with them and pulling the necromancer back with his hook, vestel tossed out the occasional stun, but was mostly healing since I was taking a ton of damage in the dark. Ended up getting all 4 heroes to about 70 stress from 0, but managed to finish it without deaths or torches, and made about 10k in the process.

>>180593742
I'm fairly certain all of them unlock at least one extra move after a successful thirst. Speaking of which, can Chevaliers thirst, because I don't think i've ever seen one try it.

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>>180593846
Only if it's this bad boy

how the fuck can i spawn the fanatic

i wanna fight him

>>180594342
Take 4 cursed heroes on an expedition.

>>180594257
Chevs are fine with just hanging back and fucking heroes up with their extra long limbs

>>180594241
Necromancer isn't that bad as long as you can keep his summons under control, though the higher difficulty you get the tougher things he summons. Also, for future reference, the boss will always be in the room farthest from your starting room.

>>180594386
does it work with only one tho?

>>180594519
The more cursed heroes you take the higher the chance he shows up, with 4 it's close to guaranteed. He'll never show up though in the Baron mission or if you don't have any cursed heroes in your party.

>>180594519
No. You need at least 2 for him to spawn. 4 pretty much guarantees he will appear.

You also need to get an event that announces his arrival.

>>180594619

>>180594640
good to know

thanks

>>180592186
nope

What's this shit? Is it saying I only get the 30% stun chance if I have -5 SPD compared to a Bloodsucker? Or +5? Either way it seems garbage, just curious.

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>>180593470
The most effective way to deal with the Collector is to stun him early and kill him before he's able to summon any heads. This probably won't happen too often though, so your next best bet is to have parties that can deal lots of damage to the enemy back-line, preventing stalemate situations like the one you were mentioning.

You shouldn't need to go out of your way to make anti-Collector parties, since the best methods to use against him are good general practices you should already for dungeon crawling. Parties with stuns deprive the enemy of turns, and thus take less damage as a result. Parties that can deal a lot of back-line damage are good at taking out stress casters are other important enemies early in fights, keeping your heroes sane and reducing how often you need to use the Abbey or Tavern.

Also the Collector drops pretty good loot.

>feel really shit after playing for the first time in a while and getting bad rolls that lead into a party wipe where a bunch of good trinkets got lost with them
>send a shit party to Shrieker when I see it's available after just to get some catharsis seeing them die because salt
>they survive and it turns out I get all my trinkets from the lost party

That's pretty nice actually.

>>180594257
Only the non-boss mosquito-based enemies can use The Thirst.

>>180595440
*already be using

How do I kill croco

How do the gender bent skin mods work? Can you have both male and female versions of the same class in the game? I don't really wanna try them if they completely replace the existing chars.

So what do I do when the white boxes start replacing graphics? I'm on a shitty laptop so I don't have any sort of Nvidia/AMD program to mess with to try and fix it

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>>180595326
Fuck

>>180596389
Description error. It's +5 SPD vs bloodsuckers.

>>180596389
That just reads like it's saying "Against mobs with +5 and over speed, you gain 30% extra stun chance against Bloodsuckers", when it should just be "30% increased chance to stun Bloodsuckers". Pretty fucked up description, I bet that gets fixed for clarity.

>lose a character
>they never show up on the stagecoach again

ok

>>180596686
What do you mean by "lose"?

>>180596925
>hero gets killed by whatever, usually their own stupidity
>stagecoach never has another one of their class again from start to finish

I went from week 20 to 82 without getting a bounty hunter once and it still hasn't been fixed.

>>180597149
Max stage coach upgrades and all? Have you tried improving you luck?

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i SWEAR to god, its every other dungeon.

>>180587772
Got her boots, can't equip them on any other class. Will report to you when I get a musketeer to make sure she can equip them and can't equip other class trinkets.

>>180597259
It's free money, what's the issue?

>>180597259
I've seen him once since the DLC came out.

>>180597259

This guys and the siren are literally push overs.

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killed him
please tell me he won't respawn

>>180597218
100% improved stage coach and all. It's fucking irritating waiting for a god damn plague doctor or a graverobber just because they tripped over a rock and brained themselves.

Does killing the Fanatic kill him for good, like Vvulf? I'm going to assume no.

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>>180597463
>>180597484

>>180597463
Hwo much HP did the Pyre have?

Was it even worth it to destroy it? Wouldn't it be better to focus on the Fanatic and kill him faster?

>>180597675
If you ignore it he'll probably just kill off all your Death's Door heroes after they've been burnt to death. If they don't die instantly then he'll just throw another ONTO THE PYRE.

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>tfw so much loot it doesn't fit in the message box

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so this can be in any of the rooms that are 4 squares away?

>>180597675
Pyre kept getting my damage dealers, and it had to be destroyed. Since he plays three times per round and has shittons of HP, i don't think you can actually beat him the same way you beat the Hag.

>>180597958
Yep, that's a pretty shit boss roll.

>>180597675
You can't rush down the Fanatic like you can the Hag since he's incredibly tanky. The Pyre doesn't have that much HP, but it does a lot of damage when your heroes are on it. Overall it's just more worthwhile to focus it down first.

Musketeer lewds when
It has been years FFS, there's porn even of the fucking caretaker

Any mods that skip the god damn tutorial levels?

>>180595963
Never mind, that was pretty easy

Can you get the Crimson Court trinkets only once per run? I lost the fingerbone for Jester and feeling really salty over it.

>>180597958
my money is on bottom left

>>180597364
is the description correct?
can I have a screenshot?

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>>180598256
Here it is. Also, should I take this team with me for the first Courtyard mission? I did it before, but restarted for all the hotfixes. No idea what provisions you need to bring, either.

>>180597631
SIGMAR BLESS THIS RAVAGED BODY

>>180598256
Does she get the bandage too or is she still gimped?

>>180598491
RIP vermintide general

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What skins are y'all using? I saw a bloodborne themed one that seemed pretty neat, but I want to know about the ones you guys really like.

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>wonder why not getting any XX slayer rings
>check nomad wagon
>they became rare with -8 dodge

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>Go into the next room because I thought people said you have to fight a 3rd croc right before the Baron.
>Its the Baron room.
>Things going shitty, everyone ends up afflicted and craving.
>Can't get any heals off between Occultist passing turns, the eggs and Baron completely ignoring the Flagellant.
>PD hits death's door.
>Try to retreat 3 times in a row but they keep refusing.
>DEATHBLOW
>4th try and whats left of the group gets out of the fight.
>Group takes stress from fleeing.
>HEART ATTACK
>The spectators from the fight are still laughing at me.

>>180598695
offering occultist

>>180598695
>tfw autism prevents me from using mods until I 100% the game

>>180598401
oh, it's just a regular trinket, those all work fine as far as I'm concerned
I'm worried about her CC Set

>>180598513
she is functionally 100% just like the arbalest - except I dont think she benefits from the dlc building system (SOMEONE TEST IT), I can add that in though, just need to snoop through the files

>>180598836
Nothing wrong with skin mods, don't hold yourself from extra fun

>>180598753
They are still worth it on any hero that doesn't stack dodge. 25% DMG is sweet.

>>180598695

Female crusader, black/purple abomination, and helios leper are my favorite. Wish they had more occultist and abomination skins, preferly female. Also a female MaA would be nice.

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>Baron run
>defeat the first croco after the red gate
>two more fights
>everybody is pretty low and I dont have any more supplies
>well, time to retreat
>hit the retreat flag
>I didnt keep all the trinkets and gems I collected along the way
>I only got the gold and nothing else

What in the fuck I sunk loads of money in this stupid run. Do I have to return to the first room THEN retreat if I want to keep my items?

>Doing medium party on cove with Musketeer\Plague Doctor\Bounty Hunter\Houndmaster
>forgot to buy enough food and torches because I thought it was just a small mission
>No light, I figured traversing a 3 room hallway would be safe to camp after
>It wasn't
>Shambler
>Fought him, all of my party got afflicted except for the Bounty Hunter which got Vigorous
>My Houndmaster was constantly at death's door from the ClapperClaws and Heart attacks, every time he refused a heal from the musketeer or doctor my asshole clenched
>I managed to beat the Shambler without anyone dying, and camped
>I thought it was over
>It wasn't
>The Collector has appeared
>Absolutely the same thing as before happened, except now I was jungling between two heart attacks from plague doctor and houndmaster
>thank god for the instakills from BH
>I beat the collector and nobody died
>Finished the rest of the dungeon pretty easily, only had one hunger check thank god

I beat adversity

>>180598695
None, I really like how everyone looks by default except for crossbow negress who feels out of place.

>>180599683
Remind yourself to always use some kind of nighttime ambush.

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> It's a Thrall, Ghoul, Squiffy trio three times in a row episode
That's enough Cove for a while.

Should I save a secret room for the end of a level? Drop the torch to 0 before entering?

>>180600375
>tfw you hate the cove so much you love it

>>180600383
No, there's just a locked box in there, use a key and you get three 3500 gold objects or sometimes 2 objects and a pretty good severed head trinket.

Collector also drops the heads.

Why are the recent reviews mixed?

>>180587192
Is the musketeer link in the OP complete now? I remember reading it lacked barks and sound effects

>>180601552

if you buy the new dlc with it, your early game can be much harder.

>>180601552
Game did everything right but got fucked by RNG on the like/dislike rolls

>>180601608

a few posts bellow

>>180587772

>>180601608
Read the thread.

>>180601552
because people are salty that they suck at the game.

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>It's an "I forgot to bring shovels." episode.

If I end up losing one of the head trinkets, is it possible to get it back?

I lost the healing head on the 2nd Crimson Court mission because someone had the "bright" idea to put that fucking Crocodile as a boss and buff it from the first round.

>>180583694
>upgrading stress relieving activities does not pay off much early on. wait until at least week 10 before trying to touch them

How do you survive early on without destressing your teams early especially when you don't have many teams early

>>180601827
One of the Shrieker's town events will give you the chance to reclaim your lost trinkets.

>>180601669
>if you buy the new dlc with it, your early game can be much harder.
Can or will? I'm interested in the game and would definitely buy the DLC with it, is it going to throw some bullshit at me that is expecting me to have played and mastered the game beforehand or can I avoid it until I'm more properly knowledgeable?

>>180602023
I had a Shrieker event, saw it was level 5 when I had no level 5 dudes so I did not do it.

I feel like activating the Court on my first run was a mistake. At least I don't have to worry about blood, I beelined for that facility that gives blood every week

>>180602113
You can activate the DLC later on through a run without any penalties.

>>180596226
try going to task manager and putting Darkest dungeon on High Priority. This should put some extra processing power towards your game

>>180602153
For 1 of the 2 events of the Shrieker, the level of the birb is dependent upon the rarity of the trinkets stolen from your chest or the corpses of the fallen.

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>disabling the religion restriction on abominations
>disabling the flagellant restrictions on flagellants

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Man at Arms/Leper/Crusader
Bounty hunter/Hellion/Houndmaster
Grave Robber/Arbalist/Jester
Vestal

This is the best healer with a tank setups right?

>>180593846
>Squeeze the boobs

>Mosquito swarm flies out

Nope. Nope.
Nopenopenopenopenopenopenope.
Nope.

>>180602259
So I can completely ignore the DLC until later? I don't see why the mixed reviews then since it should be obvious the DLC is for experienced people and it won't force itself on you.

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>half way through the dungeon, all the Acolytes decided to go out of their way to bully snort specifically
>eventually leads to him having a heart attack just as him and MaA were about to finish off the remaining cultist priest after the shuffler's death
>Occult becomes courageous but gets memed on by said priest at the very end as well
>the only reason MaA avoided death's door is because vigorous
Well that could've gone better.
F Snort and Occultist #6

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>>180592760
I confirmed that they will still indeed drink blood even if you have the Rat Carcass. So, the only thing that helps with maintenance is the Ancestor's Vintage.

>>180602410
yeah.

Hell, you can activate the Buildings and the Class DLC and not activate the ourt

>>180602153
You don't need to actually fight the Shrieker, if you can survive long enough it flees on the 4th round.
For those 4 rounds it is a tough as shit boss though, it can really fuck your guys up.
Either bring a lot of healing and tanking to survive long enough, or go the Ancestor way and throw 4 people fresh off the cart at it and fire the afflicted survivors after.

>>180602410
>mixed reviews
Because the average normalfag is either a retarded or needs to be babied

>>180602513

so you can get the new buildings and character, but not have the blood/collector mechanics?

>>180602327
>that glorious feeling when your flagellants whip each other back into Exsanguinate range and you stacked 32 damage of bleed in 2 turns

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>>180602552
my 4 people fresh off the cart would be level 1 at best.

I have made... bad decisions in regards to base upgrades.

Due to being fucked over on the last Courtyard run, I am going to have to do some antiquarian runs to restore my cash.

but I also hate how the 2nd Courtyard mission is at level 3 but it feels like it should be a higher difficulty level

>>180602690
yes

>>180602410
A lot of people just got asspained about the DLC because the dungeon for it is available from the start of the game if you have the DLC enabled, and its listed as an easy dungeon. So people saw it and assumed it meant easy as in, throw anyone in, when it actually wants you to use the best equipped/leveled group of easy-tier heros you have. Also, at release the game wasn't giving enough blood to keep your heroes going, but now that they upped the drop chance and fixed some glitches you should be drowning in the stuff. If your not sure if you can handle the DLC, you can always just start a normal game and activate the DLC whenever you want.

>>180602410
If you install both at once, I think the DLC is on by default (activated it mid campaign so I don't know for sure) and is pretty immediately intrusive - the hamlet (home base) gets overrun by mosquitoes which replaces the town events (which can give you random bonuses) and only reverts after you beat a particular quest, except at the end of that is a fairly difficult boss that would completely ravage newbies. DLC enemies also appear in all the other areas and can inflict a particular curse on your characters that requires the DLC buildings to mitigate, which would also probably overwhelm most new players that hadn't gotten to grip with the base mechanics yet.

>>180602843
That's like saying you hate that bosses are at level 3 when you probably want to be bringing only level 4s. I figured the DLC would be the exact same kind of shit, so I had no problems because I didn't try it until I had a team of upgraded level 2s with some decent trinkets.

>>180602843
I've got my level restrictions turned off and level 4 seems just about right for the Baron courtyard.

>>180603064
I can throw in level 4s (if I had any) but level 3's felt like they got wrecked by the croc with minimal effort on his part.

Won't try again until I get the guild and blacksmith up so I can get rank 3/4 weapons/armors/skills

>>180602327
disabling flagellant restrictions is way too powerful, come on now

>>180603212
the new class has restrictions?

When is a plague doctor as good as a grave robber or arbalist?

>>180603332
Flagellant is religious and also can't party with another flagellant.

apparently blood can drop from the bandits in the tutorial mission

>>180603376
Dot heal is nifty, and back line stun/dot can be useful. Emboldening vapors is solid too.

>>180603413
>Flagellant is religious
that I heard

>and also can't party with another flagellant.
that's unique. Then again one by itself is pretty OP

>>180603537
>Then again one by itself is pretty OP
Reminds me how powerful abominations were before the nerf

Are there any files I can modify to just skip the two tutorial levels? I'm sick of that on every playthrough.

>>180603516
So it's better to bring stuff like grave robber and other higher damage over pd?

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>>180590206

>>180603376
when you can chain stun back row reliably

>>180603771
pd dot heal can target anyone in the party, she has an aoe backline stun, aoe backline blight, strong any target buff. She has her uses.

>>180603376
Her stuns are some of the best in the game, and her blights demolish back rows. Her heal is really strong as well.

I'd only run an Arbalest over her on marking teams. Graverobber's generally better on shuffle teams. For most situations though, Plague Doctor is superior. She's honestly one of the best characters in the game.

>>180603376
She's also pretty indispensable on high level cove where you get hit with retardedly high dot damage.

>>180604831
FUCKIGN CRABS

>>180604831
Her stuns + shuffle also work wonders on Squiffy Ghasts.

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>>180604861
snibbity snib! :DD

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>>180605039

>>180587772
Thanks mate

>>180605039
Snibdy snab-snaboor, say hello to death door.

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>>180605039

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>>180605316
>>180605140

>forget to use dog biscuits
>forget to equip trinkets
>forget to unequip trinkets
>forget to switch skills
>forget to switch positions
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I need a fucking checklist for this game jesus

>>180605579
REMIND YOURSELF

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>>180605579
You gonna get reminded.

>>180605140
Why don't you have a healer?

>>180606214
Not my screenshot

>>180606214
>he needs a healer

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>>180606357
I need healing.

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IN BLOOD I WILL FIND MY REDEMPTION

wew 87% deathblow resist, i fucking love the flagellant

how are you guys building him?

>>180606707
I think Death's Door resist has a hidden cap at like 75.

>>180606707
a bleed machine

>>180606823
I think it's 85, because without the second trinket my guy is at 83%, and the other trinket gets him to 85% even though it should take him to 93% since its +10%

>>180591458
i dislike being on a timer

>>180606707
bleed trinket (bleed amulet), pretty much only using punish and redeem. Often times as a primary healer with self healers, or with an arb

>>180606214
That party doesn't really need it. GR can dodge tank, MaA can regularly tank, and Abom can self-heal. If anyone gets on Death's Door PD can get them off it, and if things get bad she can also heal for a lot during camps.

>>180587192
>jester
;<

>>180606823
>>180607018
It's 87%. My flagellant has 10% quirk and 10% from the very rare collar and it caps at 87%.

>>180607579
yeah you're right, I dunno why I said 85, it went to 87

which quirk is it?

>>180606214
>>180607318
Adding on: that party also has a high amount of stun potential between its heroes, resulting in less damage taken overall. PD can double stun, Abom's main method of attack stuns, and MaA moves forward and stuns. I'm assuming he's doing a lunge build on that GR, meaning she'll probably stun on her second turn too with a shadow fade to go into another lunge on turn three.

>>180606707

My steam overlay is not working since the update so this is how I use him:

>lock clutch hitter, last gasp and second wind
>book of rage is bt far the best trinket on him; helps to boost even more his damage and the debuff amulet so he can bleed even skellies
>I use Punish, Exsanguinate, Reclaim/Redeem and Suffer

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My shitty standalone version of the musketeer is coming along nicely
wish i could come up with a 7th skill

>>180599683
Oh look

>go to kill swine king
>shambler altar
>kill him easily this time since I'm prepared
>fight before swine king
>it's fucking collector again

I swear, my luck

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>>180608234
>leveling up a bunch of level 0 newbies
>wild Collector appears in the very first hallway
>manage to stunlock him to death before he can take a single turn
Was a pretty close shave desu

>>180608234
at least you didn't run into two shambler altars IN THE SAME MISSION

Doing the barron court yard, first time. Got the red key, found the red room...

GOT JACK SHIT.

Was I supposed to find a boss or some loot here? All I got is a fountain background.

>PBD not compatible with crimson court
HOPELESS

>>180595608
>>Only the non-boss mosquito-based enemies can use The Thirst.
bosses use it too

>>180608591
one red key is a shortcut in the center other one should be treasure

any way to edit my deeds/crests/paintings/statues without using a trainer that'll set em to 9999? For some reason my save isn't working after I installed crimson court, I just wanna upgrade my hamlet a bit so I don't have to grind all the way back from the beginning.

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>>180610058
Whoops.

I feel like I got a lot done for one round. Explored a ton of the south and most of the north. Haven't spoiled anything about the baron yet, but I mean, I gotta be getting close...

Right?

>>180610575
You're probably finished like 55% of the dungeon. Still a bunch to go, but not more than you have already cleared.

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>>180610575
this is the full map for the baron mission

>>180595440
Unless I'm running a real shit team, I generally welcome collector fights. He's not that hard to manage if you prioritize right.

>>180610970
so there's no fucking way around the crocodile?

fucking hell Red Hook

>>180611097
>>180610575
btw using shovels on the wine bottles can give you firewood for camping

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Can you still breeze through every location with 0 stress full hp, and no firewood using pic related?

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>>180611175
kinda

>>180611131
if I could find one

>>180611276
they appear frequently in the later half of the dungeon.

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>>180610961
>>180610970
Okay, so I have a bit to go. Bummer.
>>180611131
Wine bottles? I haven't seen a wine bottle curio, just back ground art. Don't tell me you can smash them.

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>>180587192
i really like that they went for mosquito inspired vampires instead of bats it looks really good

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>Want to do the court missions
>But don't want to get any of my heroes afflicted with the curse

I fuckin' hate this curse mechanic. I suppose I could build the blood making building, but I just feel like it's ruining my heroes to get it. I'll train up a new squad to level 2 and then send them off to get turned into vampires.

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>>180611587
no its a curio, they seem to appear later on

>>180587192
User reviews:
RECENT: Mixed (982 reviews)
OVERALL: Very Positive (21,342 reviews)
what went wrong?

>>180611397
>they appear frequently in the later half of the dungeon.

probably after the fucking Croc, when I need one BEFORE it

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>>180600420
>>180600375
i fucking loved the cove last time i played

coral removing bad quirks was responsible for most of my expeditions there

>>180611813
casuals came in, a ton of streamers picked it up so it was bound to happen

>>180611813
Nothing. Shitters ran into the APEX PREDATOR and became afflicted with cowardice.

Suffer not the lame horse or the broken man.

Sent my fav Bounty Hunter for a night on the town after a job well done.

Brother got himself a case of the double vision now. Nasty -10 acc.

Normally this wouldn't be a thing, but the debuff doesn't show up as a quirk or disease. Just a "-10 Town" on the stat screen.

Does this mean he's fucked for life, or just need a week, or what?

>>180611943
>horse or
horse, nor*

Haven't played in months and I remember this quote clearly.

>>180612153
It'll go away after you complete a mission with him.

>It's another 'your favorite hireling died because you got too cocky' episode

I just picked this game in last wednesday and while I know it was a roguelike, I didnt expect it to go full X-COM.

>That panicked feeling when all of your party goes insane and they cant escape

Christ

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>>180612260
you can disable failed retreats in the options i believe

>>180612260
>That panicked feeling when all of your party goes insane and they cant escape
>tfw you get flustered and you start messing up attacks
>tfw each mistake amplifies the other
>tfw snowballed

>>180612214
I hope being able to point this out has made you feel better about your life, anon.

>>180612353
disabling failed retreats simply encourages players to keep fighting a losing battle

if you know that it might take 3 or 4 tries to retreat then you'll have to really think abut whether or not you should play the death's door tanking game while on 180 stress

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>Making skeletons bleed with my Flagellant

what is the folder with the Squiffy Ghast animations named?

>>180608664
Someone's working on Blood Red Court, which will be PBD with CC compatibility.

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>>180587192
so what would the styles of other heroes heads be if they added more to The Collectors arsenal?

the not obvious ones I mean, it'd be pretty self explanatory to imagine what a floating Arbalest or Grave Robber head would do

>>180612612
bone marrow juice

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>>180612867
nvm found it "Drowned Pirate"

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>>180611943
Dunno why so many people are asspained by that those crocs. All my parties have just rolled over them every time. Bullshit like the formless flesh, which can just roll a bunch of pig heads and obliterate your party one dude at a time, is way more annoying.

Heeeeyy, I need some Fanatic strategies. How are you supposed to deal with this guy?

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I have questions about the bloodmoon in the Courtyard: does it means its eternal darkness/low light or its just another separate thing outside torch levels?

I wanna know if I should use moon cloaks or just generic damage items.

>>180613206
You just had trouble with the flesh too?

so did I not an hour ago, fucko decided to grow nothing but heads and butts and crit my favorite Plague Doctor to death

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>>180613206
>>180613206

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>>180613351
What do you mean "trouble"? This isn't how all your kills look?

>>180613626
aw geez, that post, that picture, that whole scenario got me bamboozled into thinking you were just wiped

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SOOTHED

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>tfw my Dismas died on my Bloodmoon run

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>>180598773
>dat pic
sauce?

>>180611813
the very first mission of the dlc was labeled incorrectly on purpose which rubbed a lot of new players the wrong way.

The new content (mainly the curse and how to deal with it) was also fairly broken before the 4 hotfixes which could have ruined some saves.

The game, despite being very well made for what it is, is very polarizing in that its both fairly difficult and very RNG reliant. This is most prevalent in the early game where a single shitty run within the first 10 weeks can put you back far enough that you are better off just restarting the game. This is not new player friendly at all.

>>180614885
You're never better off restarting the game, unless you're on stygian. Which you shouldn't be playing on as a new player anyway.

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What are your favorite/worst dungeons?

Warrens or Ruins is my favorite, and I fucking hate the Weald.

>mfw encountering Unclean Giant

>>180615178
Having your A team forced to abandon a mission with 3 afflictions and a death within the first 4-5 weeks can cripple you enough that you may aswell just restart and lose the last hour or 2 of gameplay. During my first playthrough years ago I had that exact situation happen on top of the stagecoach never giving me a healer for my B team so I just restarted the game. It put a sour taste in my mouth but when I learned the game I started to love it. Not everyone is going to have that patience

>>180615660
None of that makes any sense. All you do by restarting is throw away everything you've put into upgrading your hamlet. There's literally no other difference. It's purely a negative thing. There's zero reason to do it... other than perhaps an irrational psychological one.

>>180615376
Weald for sure, they got enemies that can either be piss easy or nightmares depending on who they're paired with

Those Fungal Scratchers in particular are obnoxious, they need target spotters so they can use their best attack, which means that most of their supports are dedicated target spotters for what's basically the mushroom zombie version of the Leper

>>180615376
Warrens is by far the worst fucking dungeon

>Don't kill every single pig on turn 1
>Your best guys get The Black Plague or some shit and you have to go fucking cure them

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>http://pastebin.com/ayjczL4M
>2/19/2015

What the fuck is this outdated shit still doing in the OP?

>>180615891
If the first mission out of the gate kills half your team and afflicts the rest before you can form a solid B team your progress could be hampered enough that you may be better off restarting. Kind of like in Xcom where if you dont have good steam vent placement you are better off restarting. I dont understand what you arnt getting, are you new to games with rougelike elements?

>>180616025
You get diseased just as much if not more in the Weald. At least in Warrens it's just the little pigs who vomit that spread disease, in the Weald I can count at least 3 enemies that can spread disease and Blight at the same time.

>>180614816
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2617420/Five-faint-Shakespeares-Globe-bloodiest-play-Gruesome-scene-Titus-Andronicus-brings-audience-knees.html

Bogpill me on Caltrops /dadg/. Are they worth using in certain team comps, or still as shit as Hook & Slice was?

>>180615376

Ruins and Cove are pretty good. Ruins are comfy and Cove is pretty challenging in all levels. Weald is also pretty good, but Warrens on the other hand...fuck warrens and fuck pig people.

So I haven't finished the game with my main save, is it better to just start a new game if I want to play the DLC or better to use it on an already established save?

I heard some shit about how the DLC can "fuck up and ruin your midgame games" but I have no clue if that's genuine or just people being idiots.

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>>180617417
What's the poison?

>>180617530
what do you mean anon?

>>180617778
Between the holy water and torches.

>>180617530
If your talking about the thing between the holy water and the torch its laudanum, it's used to cure the Horror DoT that ghouls, madmen and some of the bosses give now.

>>180618058
Neat.

>>180618058
desu they aren't worth an inventory space when you can kill ghouls and madmen fast enough, and the fact only those 2 and the spooky violinist in the cove have horror attacks makes them non compulsary.

if red hook actually wants to make them useful have them grant a -10% stress gain buff for a few rounds apart from curing horror

>>180587772
>do what the read me file said
what readme file are you referencing?

>>180618470
The Courtesans and the Baron from CC also cause it, though its still not worth it imo. The biggest problem I have with it is that most of the creatures that cause it are random encounters, so you can't really expect to use it, and even if you do bring some a lot of the time it just ends up be waste.

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>>180596389
I actually decided to test this, here are my results
If you're current trinket (AKA: Second trinket) gives you 30%+ stun chance it gives all Bloodsuckers in battle +5 speed which includes any party members inflicted with the crimson curse. It's strange, I know.

>Don't touch that! removed from the workshop

Thanks.

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>mammoth cysts can crit their selfheals

>>180617417
>Not editing the firewood so it stacks

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>chain heart attacks wipe my team

Faster combat or Slight haste? Which mod is better?

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>>180619750
>repeat crits off the Flesh, the easiest boss in theh game, completely wipes my team

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.......where's the Prophet

Hey, i bought this game and im downloading it now, anything i should know before playing?

>>180620104
probably left top but technically both left and right are the same exact distance from the start

>>180620104
At the top. Flip a coin for either end.

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>hopeless PD kills herself
>hellion is selfish and didn't realize she had fear of beasts causing her to whiff so many times
>abo about to break
>occultist already rolled a number of 0 heals
>still have to fight a templar sniper and a mammoth cyst without my main source of DoT
fuck this shit I'm throwing all my trinkets in the bag and bugging out

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>>180620671
>selfish hellion sacrificed herself in a final selfless act
>this is the second time she died
thanks a lot irony

Good morning dadg

>>180613323
It means radiant light, Sun Rings work in those dungeons.

>>180621170
>/dadg/ will die again soon

How bad is running no healer teams?

I've rarely had a healer on my team and I've been doing pretty well up to week 13.

>>180621435
Doable on easy dungeons with self healers like Leper, Abo or HM, and maybe a PD for emergency death's door saves

>>180621435
You can pull it off on short/medium legendary missions without much hassle. A tad bit on risky side, but most heroes have minor heals that can take people off of Death's Door.

>>180621269
but i just woke up anon

>kleptomaniac
>(whistles)
>this pack has already been looted
>"hmph"

serves you right you fuck

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>>180620247
>>180620274
Was right side. Only hit one Rubble of Ruin the whole fight, but I won't give him shit for it since he's got no eyes.

How does bloodlight interact with trinkets that require specific light levels?

Any good party comps for the Abomination? I like his beast moveset but the +8 stress he gives his party when he transforms counteracts his usefulness imo, especially since he doesn't give back an equal amount of stress heal after he transforms back into a human. I feel like he would stress party members to the breaking point really quickly especially with stress enemies' attacks on top.

>>180622013
Trinkets and quirks both act as if Radiant Light is in effect.
>>180622115
Disable his religious restrictions and pair him with 'sader for that great party stress heal, or put him with a jester and/or graveslut to feed off her crits.

Abom's moveset is pretty good no matter what form he's in, as his stun does a fuckload of damage and has a pretty good chance at gaining the desired effect, plus his puke can melt two targets AND reduce their blight resistance.

Or if you like to live dangerously, two abominations and a jester.