/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

First for Unity

First for Fuck Niggers

https://twitter.com/reduzio/status/877608306986033152
how can pr*prietary engines even compete

Worst for Unity

last for love2d

>>180515463
B L A C K E D

If I want to go from Amateur Game Dev to AAA big boy game dev what should I do? Should I just try to specialize in something like server networking?

>>180515769
A L T - R I G H T E D

captcha: South Calle

>>180516039
>text captcha
>2017
not just your social values that are stuck in the past

why the FUCK is visual studio so fucking bloated, how can a text editor require several gbs of storage and RAM?

>>180516201
>fucking with pictures instead of just typing them out
so much fucking quicker, it hurts

>>180516204
because it's not a text editor you spastic

>>180516204
like asking why is photoshop or sony vegas several gb. as far as ram goes, intellisense,syntax highlighting, solution size and such is what determines that.

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----[ Recap Complete ]----
Congrats to jamos and Shmoop 2 for reaching the max score multiplier.
Also I realize now that I left a questionable entry in, but it's pretty cute so I'll excuse it just this once

-------- Links
Read me: pastebin.com/QA047M2e
Recap archive: dropbox.com/sh/icm5ng2zs8p24uh/AACC61OsXzCgl6-9Vdwb4sRAa
Scores archive: pastebin.com/AmFmLeAy

-------- Feedback
Notice something wrong with your entry, score, or anything else? Let me know and I'll look into it.

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>>180516550
>trying to read mangled up words and type them out is faster than clicking the helicopter
sure you're not a robot?

>tfw I've been wanting to make game for literally 10+ years now and am yet to sit down and learn programming past python

I've been busy with other things but still

>>180517107
Robots can hate PoCs too, you fuckin' fleshie.

>>180517230
The important thing is you let us know.

>>180517290
Personal online Computer
H A C K E D

>>180517107
Poor Nano...

>>180515928
Programmer or artist. There will never be a lack of work for the code guys or the art guys in the AAA world.

>>180516204
I've used linux/vim exclusively for the past 10+ years and I unironically enjoy and prefer win10/VS Code
come at me

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Seems my girlfriend is slowly getting upset as I continue to dedicate all my time to deving and not giving her any attention.

>>180517573
what does that have to do with the size of the files being large

>>180517658
You can't have a gf if you plan on being a 1ma

There can only be (You) and your game.
Nothing else.

>>180517658
Get a better GF.

>>180517484
Pretentious ostracized Crybabies
C R A C K E D . E X E

>>180515928
Just bee urself

>>180516941
how does the score work?

>>180517658
My girlfriend likes in inject herself into my hobbies so she can get some attention. She did this with Pokemon Go, Runescape, and even bought an Xbox One to play some games with me. I wonder if I can get her to learn to draw or program to help me with my projects.

Making a game is very much like a girlfriend.

The first few weeks are great and full of excitement.
Then routine creeps in, you aren't bored of it yet though, it feels like you're progressing towards something more serious and you are enjoying the journey.
Then things just become slower and slower, the excitement is gone and you start having second guesses over the future, it feels like the image you had in your head was perhaps nothing but a mirage.
Then you either drop it and look for that initial excitement again by doing something else or you realize that the mirage will never be a reality and you power through it and accept your fate as a mediocre person living a mediocre life.

>>180517658
My wife has offered to do art for any game I make so long as I have a working system in place.

She does the most basic pixelshit, but it's still leagues better than anything I can do.

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I'll repost in the new thread since I was pretty late in the last one, and didn't get any feedback.

Curious to see what FPS people get with this scene. Had a report of 50's so far, which is bad considering its a very simple scene.

https://xsomedevx.itch.io/fpsproblems

>>180517230
Pfft. Scrub. Thats nothing. I've been toying with gamedev since using applescript on the first gen Macs, used Klic & Play and Gamemaker from the days they came out, went on to sell programming, graphics and game dev textbooks to universities, private computer graphics & game programming colleges and STILL never learnt to program properly or published a game.

I admire my tenacity at least.

There...there are normies among us.

>>180518378
>>180518104
interesting, my wife is pretty much like that, likes to be interested in what I do but she can usually find a middle ground, like she'll play games but not necessarily the same and she sometime helps with my projects. Its actually refreshing to have her opinion sometimes since she's not afraid to tell me if my thing looks like shit and how to correct it.

>>180517958
it's like golf, the less you do the higher you score.

>>180518330
You sound immature in both relationships and gamedev.

>>180517958
recapanon personally rates all the games week-by-week

>>180518590
gogem I've been thinking about it and would you be interested in making some arts for others? Your long neck/no face style is possibly appropriate for something I'm working on.

>>180518498
>normies
Hello, normalfag

>>180518378
Interesting, my husband usually is the one who insists on helping me program things for my project.

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My wife also assists me in my work

>>180518832
r u a grill

post tits

>>180518832
does he work in that domain?

>>180518870
Indeed, my wife of 4 years usually likes giving me a quickie when I need to come up with ideas.

hugless dateless virgin nodev master race reporting in

>>180516941
>Kitty made it
lmao

>>180518957
Not getting half my shit stolen at 45 master race reporting in.

>>180518870
My wife wishes to help me but can't because she is unfortunately restricted to a particular dimension, but that's not a problem since she's understanding and cute.

I know my game has flaws right now, but I'm not afraid of redesigning it until I get it right.
I only hope that it doesn't take several years to get it right.

>>180518557
>she's not afraid to tell me if my thing looks like shit and how to correct it.
I wish people were more like that. My girlfriend is way too nice about art and cooking and whatnot so I post my stuff on the various draw threads of several boards and get some honest critique. She thinks it's rude and I can't explain to her how helpful constructive criticism is. She hardly knows what to look for but mostly because she doesn't try even if something is glaringly obvious that it's wrong. You don't gotta be an artist to be a critic.

>>180519143
ask your wife for help

>>180518713
1) you 1MA?
2) impress me

My husband is my game's worldbuilder and writer.

>>180519143
depends on the scope my man. I'm lower my own scope so that I could do that, polish nonstop until I'm satisfied

>>180519185
>ask your wife for help
According to the 10 people who've posted in the last 5 minutes, apparently a significant other is extremely helpful.

>>180519239
I lowered*

>>180519236
is he hot?

>>180519197
Yes 1MA right now. I'll take that for a possible interest, I'll give you more details when the time comes. There's other more critical systems to finish first, which should do a proper impression when completed.

>>180519497
Yes

>>180519617
prove it

post ass and dick pics

Bokube dev you need to shill your game harder outside of 4chan. Also nice update.

>>180519497
His dick is 8.5″ and he can kick your ass.

>>180519550
>right now.
1MA is an earned right not a fluid label like a gender
are you or are you not 1MA?

>tfw I get anxious as fuck when (trying to) work with other people
>I'm also a control freak and want things to be exactly as I want them to be
I'm not 1MA by choice.

>>180519692
Yes I am 1MA.

do unity/gamemaker kiddies actually consider themselves to be real game devs

>>180519927
what matters is having a game

Dude, where's my game?

>>180520072
here

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Progress:
I'm learning the Godot API and I rewrote an FPS controller to use Quaternions instead of a shitty dual-gimbal system. Next I have to change the movement direction to be relative to the camera view. I plan to post the final product on github with an MIT license.
[code]func _input(event):
#Camera motion
if event.type == InputEvent.MOUSE_MOTION:
X += event.relative_x*0.005
Y += event.relative_y*0.005
var rotation = Quat(Vector3(0,1,0),X) * Quat(Vector3(1,0,0),Y)
get_node("Camera").set_transform(rotation)[/code]
I want to make freely-available WELL-MADE demo character/camera controllers for my own learning, and to help others get into Godot more as well.

>>180520298
No code tags on vg? Damn.

>>180520298
Use hastebin.com for posting code. /vg/ doesn't have code tags.

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>>180520480
welcome

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>>180520298
good work senpai, I will steal it for my game later on

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Im developing in GMS 1.4 and it looks like yoyo games might not be selling xbone and ps4 exports anymore. So id have to upgrade to gms 2. But my game is 80% finished and importing into gms 2 and dealing with all the new bugs might be hell. What do? Stick with 1.4 and release on steam first and then import into gms 2 when the game is 100% done just for console exports?

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>>180520480
We got us an immi/g/rant, boys.

>>180520668
Fuck, next gen Dead or Alive graphics are off the hook!

>>180520668
What makes you so sure anyone will care about your game, let alone console ports for it?
If you sell your game on steam and it makes enough money for you to spend the time porting it, then you can think about doing that.

>>180520526
K, here
https://hastebin.com/hupebowahi.cs

>>180520590
If you want to use it, just know that the x and y vars are declared as class member variables. If you declare them in the update loop, the translation will be impermanent and the view will keep resetting. I have yet to discover another workaround for this that can use Quat, and it seems fine to me anyway.

Also, again, the view angle is currently disconnected from the directions you move in. So you may want to wait, or just add that yourself.

>>180520883
Bigger audience to hit, more press coverage, more sources of revenue, more experience, more personal satisfaction.

It's just not working and I don't know why.
My code is the fucking hydra, every bug I fix spawns two new ones.
I'm honestly ready to bash my head in with a rock

>>180520668
>800 dollars for each console
>FOR A 12 MONTH LICENSE, IT'S NOT EVEN PERMANENT
I'm not sure if that's profitable senpai.

>>180521026
that's non compartmentalized spaghetti code for you.

>>180520958
Can't you get_transform() to avoid using the class member variables?

Reminder that Clifford Algebra/geometric algebra generalizes scalars, vectors, complex numbers, matrices, and quaternions

>>180521131
If you export in that 12 month timeframe than you dont need to renew right, so its only a 1 time fee
Also if your game isnt making enough that 1500 seems like too much then the game aint doin good

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Guys Unity won't open on my computer :(

It was working fine yesterday and now it won't open. The exe file is running in task manager but nothing happens.
How do I fix this?

>>180521434
I think you would still need to renew it if you want to update the game.

I'm not sure what the fuck Yoyo is doing but apparently they don't want people using their engine anymore.

>>180521717
Try to start it from your project directly

>>180521026
>>180521205

And now it's working perfectly
Back away slowly and pretend nothing ever happened..

>>180516941
When can/do we post our bits for the next recap, is there a regularly scheduled day?

>>180521717
End the task in task manager. Try to open Unity.
Restart your computer. Try to open Unity.
Reinstall Unity. Try to open Unity.
Then come back and ask.

>>180521915
>When can/do we post our bits for the next recap, is there a regularly scheduled day?
Do you not progress during Friday/weekend?

>>180521717
Make a backup of your project before you do anything else that's recommended to you.

>>180521915
recap day is monday, recap guy posts the instructions then

>>180522020
If you aren't already making automatic backups of your game ALL THE TIME then you're doing it wrong.

I am an artist.
Tell me about your game, what engine you're using, how far you are, what kind of art you need, and so on. I will be back in an hour to respond to any serious inquiries.

>>180522007
I work over the weekend (chef lyf) so I wanted to know if I can plan ahead and post on the last night I have working on my game
So yeah, sometimes I progress, sometimes I'm flat out and I can't even touch my computer, it depends.

>>180522334
Thanks but I'm not looking for an artist right now, good luck!

>>180516941
>reached max score multiplier
ayy

What happens if you miss a week? Does the score multiplier get reset or does it just go down a level?

>>180521717
Have you tried turning on your other monitor?

I got a sprite pack from a store. How do I come up with a simple story. It's a shooter game with spaceships.

>>180521308
I'm playing around with that, but I'm not sure how it should work. Want to give it a shot and show me what you mean?
https://hastebin.com/alovuxulix.swift

>>180513908
>>180514125
>started gamedev in 2013
>released a game in steam in 2015
>tfw have done absolutely fuck all since

>>180521717
wait for the swat team unity called in

what you get for pirating

>>180522552
Space-chad stole your space-girlfriend and now you gotta get her back and prove you're not a space-beta.

Either that or your character is just doing his day job which happens to be shooting people

>>180515928
Specializing is good but I've no idea what role is in demand nowadays. Becoming a networking guru is probably one of the good ways to do it since a lot of games still struggle to get networking right.

>>180522629
Anon I started to gamedev back in ~2006
Still nothing released

>>180522552
You are part of an armed escort that escorts cargo ships between planets. Pirates will attack and stuff, defend your cargo ship.
Also you get to chart a course between the planets to get the cargo to its destination on time.

>>180522629
was it your "dreamgame"
i always wonder what would happen to those people if they ever managed to actually finish

>>180518104
>My girlfriend likes in inject herself into my hobbies so she can get some attention
Women do this in general. They see men doing something where they focus entirely on doing something instead of giving attention to women so they invade it and in turn pull in chads because hey there's women there and a bunch of betas and slowly the entire thing gets ruined.

Luckily programming and gamedev can still be a solo effort.

Would it be easier to make a stealth game in Unity or UE4? I have done tutorials for UE4 and find it simple but I'm not sure it is the right fit for me. I tried using Unity and I can't get the tutorial packages to display properly for the third person shooter tutorial. None of the store stuff that is free seems to work either, I get bugs when I try to run them.

>>180522176
This is true.

Yet many agdg projects have died because someone did something without first having a backup.

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>>180523073

>>180523010
I'm a dream game fag. Started working on it around 2013. I've stopped development several times since, but I always pick it back up. I guess that is the dream game curse.

I firmly believe if it takes you more than two years to make any game, you're either woefully inexperienced or wasting a lot of time. Or in my case, a little of both.

>>180523073
>and slowly the entire thing gets ruined
It's more to do with that she's just terrible at everything she attempts so we're constantly at a loss by default unless I or others can pull some shit out of their ass. We don't play anything too competitive that's not Halo or CoD so it doesn't really matter.

>>180522629
>Had dreams to make video games since I was a tot
>Unity becomes a thing
>Finally get around to making a game in-between classes at Uni
>Achieved childhood dream
>Feel nothing

I mean, I was happy to say I created a game, but that feeling ended like within an hour of hitting "export game"

Speaking of backups, any tips on Git? I've never used it and its a bit confusing. I'm making a physical backup of everything atm so that I can try to do a proper one with git and have some insurance on a fuckup

>>180521014
Remember that releasing games on consoles is still a much bigger hurdle than doing it on Steam. Consoles have actual standards that you need to fulfill to get your game on their platforms.

>>180522679
Damsel in distress. something familiar and simple. Story can be told in a few screens. Why not. Thanks i'll give it a thought.

>>180523008
Cargo thing might explain the dropping gems, coins. and charting a course made me think of select which level to play next from multiple unlocked levels. thanks.

Maybe I can combine the two. heh.

>>180522621
You don't need two set_mouse_modes in the _ready function I think, Captured mode already hides the cursor.

I don't know shit about 3D so I can't help you with the other stuff, sorry senpai.

>>180523462
As far as I know, you have to be approved by the company to develop a game, let alone matching the standards for the finished product.

>>180523389
git config --global user.email "[your email here]"
git config --global user.name "[the same name you gave your repo account]"
cd C:\Your\Project\Directory\
git init
git remote add origin [your repo url here]
git add *
git commit -m "Initial commit"
git push origin master

When you make a change:
git status
git add [the shit in red] OR *
git commit -m "a small note about the changes"
git push

When you made a change elsewhere and need to update locally:
git pull origin master


Git is not hard, guys.

>>180523389
just download a gui

>>180523678
thanks. I got the GitHub app with the nice interface but I'm better of getting used to the terminal commands right? How/where should I use them?

>>180523010
Hell no I'd finish my dreamgame in 2 years. It was a shitty top-down shooter that was a disappointment in everything but sales.

I've just been stuck in this vicious cycle of nodev and fucking around since. I don't want to make a second top-down shooter but it also feels like all the ideas I have are too advanced for my skillset or take too much time to make as 1ma so I don't even get started. I occasionally prototype something but then I think about all the work that it would need to be a finished game and I just lose motivation.

>>180523292
I guess I feel weirdly similar. I wanted to make games for a very long time and I still enjoy programming but actually releasing a game maybe sort of took the magic away.

>>180523284
even a year is a ridiculous amount of time to JLMG.

>>180523503
what if the damsel is actually your precious, state of the art cargo ship, and you just paid off your last payment

>>180523842
Honestly, just use whatever feels more comfortable. It doesn't matter. If the GUI makes sense, use it. I just prefer the terminal.

>>180523843
>feels like all the ideas I have are too advanced for my skillset
what's your skillset? i'll idea you something good.

>>180522552
>bought some assets
>whew the hard part is done, now just the simple task of story-writing
it's not like humans have been honing this skill for as long as they were scratching shit into walls or anything

>>180523389
https://onlywei.github.io/explain-git-with-d3/

git might seem overwhelming at first but there's really only a couple commands that you'll end up using 99% of the time. Then if you want to get more advanced or need to for some reason, that's when you google a refresher on "git rebase vs merge" or whatever.
But just start with simple commits on a single branch. From there, get better at squashing your commits and realize that you don't have to constantly push your results (in fact you could just use git locally). From there, have a stable branch and a testing branch, and only fuck around on the testing branch(es), incorporating things back into the master branch.

So is the normal cycle for everyone?

>Think up feature
>Attempt to implement feature
>Can not figure out how to implement feature
>Search how to do it
>Search gives shit results
>Browse the docs
>Docs are a fucking maze
>Still can not figure out feature
>Get pissed
>Shit post on /agdg/
>Decide to try again
>(Hopefully)Understand it after coming back
>Repeat

>>180524080
I've roughly 6 years of programming under my belt, 4 years of Unity experience and I can make standard lowpoly or memepoly assets but I suck at texturing.

I've been trying to expand my programming skills by learning more advanced programming concepts like the different patterns introduced in gameprogrammingpatterns.com

I think my biggest hurdles are in coding big complicated systems and polishing gameplay to make it feel good.

>>180524093
I'm aware. It'll be just a couple of screens so it doesn't have to be deep, just enough to give a context.

>>180523959
mindblown.gif

>>180524514
>>180523969
thanks guys

>>180522552
Why does a shooter game with spaceships really need any story?

>>180524586
I try not to ask too many questions here otherwise it would literally just be devs doing my work for me.

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>>180522629
>Started learning to program in late 2013
>Poor discipline so I would go weeks or even a month without coding.
>I have never completed a single project

>>180524771
Because the market is flooded with tons of space shooters, so you have to differentiate your game. Many of them look too generic and have lots of features, fun gameplay, therefore lots of downloads. So to stand out what you can do is giving it a context, theme, mood, which can be done in a few comic book style screens. Instead of trying to compete the other games by graphics or amount of content, which they have already excelled.

Or, so I thought...

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Added some bushes. Getting a lot of inspiration from the Disney Hercules game on PS1 right now

>>180523959
op again,
what if damsel is only referred by only the name in the beginning, and at the end of the game it is revealed that female name was the ships name and all that hassle for just a ship.

>>180524586
>think up new feature
>determine whether it fits within my game's scope
>if so, design how it'll work with gameplay and code base
>implement feature
>debug

I'll look up docs as I'm implementing if I need to. If I'm unsure how to design or whether it will fit my game I'll read some articles or look at games with similar stuff.

Try to not just hack-and-google things. Think it out. Get a whiteboard and draw some diagrams. You get serious tunnel vision and end up with a mess of a project otherwise.

>>180525558
That's pretty good actually.

>>180525558
bretty gud

>>180525278
If you can't even make your own art what makes you think you can do this or if it would even make you stand out?

>>180525558
what if the princess is in another castle

>>180525693
Writing is a distinct skillset from art. But if this is OP's first time, don't bank on standing out based on story

>>180525820
Setting the theme and mood and using comic book style screens all requires more than just writing skill.

If you write for a certain theme and mood and the art style doesn't match you're usually fucked unless you managed to do it intentionally.

>>180524598
-a get player from from A -> B game.
-stealth game mechanics of enemies needing to see you to become aggressive
-player/enemies have lockon 1HK shooting so being seen is instant death
-player possesses enemies he shoots
-possessing an enemy the player can be seen by enemies without triggering them as long as he acts like an enemy
-being killed while possessing sends you back to the original body you left behind
tags: stealth, puzzle, speedrunning

>even gogem is cloning mario now

>>180525614
>>180525632
Sounds funny. I come up with these ideas often but do you think this kind of twist would amuse the players or would it feel like a big let down? I always felt skeptical of it being a let down.

>>180525725
maybe she is in another mothership each time.

>>180525693
>>180525820
Maybe not stand out and become a hit, but to differentiate. And it can make the player invest more. Maybe they can recommend to others if they get invested in it.
It was just an observation about other games. That was what I thought they were missing.

>>180525960
It matches the art style.
It doesn't have to be comic style, I meant the screens in the beginning where you click next, next, next, instead of cinematics, animations etc.

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I got around to adding lasers and fan obstacles plus I finished making the current room. Now on to the next one.

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>>180526250
is mario stealing my ideas again?

>>180526391
>do you think this kind of twist would amuse the players or would it feel like a big let down?
Great ending for a lighthearted comical game, terrible idea for anything else.

>>180526250
>-a get player from from A -> B game.
>-slideshows of stealth game mechanics of enemies needing to see you to become aggressive
>-player/enemies have a cinematic where lockon 1HK shooting so being seen is instant death
>-player possesses enemies he clicks
>-possessing an enemy the player can be described by enemies without triggering them as long as he clicks like an enemy
>-being killed while possessing sends you back to the original steam page you left behind
>tags: stealth-mangement, necks, politics

>>180526391
what if, the damsel was a ship, ... but also his gf? whoah

>>180524586
>think of feature
>break in small chunks
>model/program every chunk, testing it to make sure it works

>>180526558
>stealth-mangement
undercover boss the game

athletic project manager looking for husband/wife team, if she is interested in skyping a few times a week we'll see how things go from there. Local preferred

>post my sprites in /agdg/
>someone steals them
My biggest fear. How do I get over it ? Am I being paranoid ?

>>180527237
You've got nothing to worry about. It will not be someone, it will be me.

>>180526673
doesn't sound half bad

>>180527237
It'll happen and it won't matter.

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AGDG DEMO DAY 15
Starts in
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days
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hour
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minutes
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>tfw no wife to work with on my game
For the first time ever in my life, I have desired for a woman. How do I get a wife ?

>>180527906
hire one

>>180527876
New to this, details plz

>>180528072
post a demo of your game, get a baseline level of downloads/feedback

you better be fucken ready kiddo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IPbGfDfGcI

>>180526451
oooooh pretty

>>180526495
It'd be a great idea, shit's hilarious. Fuck your players.

>>180525462
Not bad, add some fruit or highlights to the trees they are kind of bland compared to the brushes.

>>180526451
Noice, but the light affecting the lasers is wrong.
Very nice bevels and shading otherwise.

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>>180528175

>>180528175
Pretty good MDE knockoff video. It's entertaining because it's pretty niche, so it's not obnoxiously derivative.

>try to rewrite some shit code from scratch so that it's nice and clean
>write same thing again

are there any other cool places where i can talk devving?

>no one replied to my last two posts asking for feedback

why even post a third

>>180529286
reply to me now and I'll feedback

>>180529286
You have redeemed your allotted bitchily-demanding-feedback post for the week. By law I am obligated to provide feedback to the next progress post you make.

Let's see it.

>>180529286
I'll reply, what's up?

>>180529218
No idea. If I knew one I sure as fuck wouldn't be here anymore.

>>180529286
>post boring shit
>ree why does no-one reply to me

@180529286
>gets more yous on a single whinepost than he for the last progress post

>>180529286

Here you go:
https://youtu.be/DYNGmpZPcqs

What was your thing again?

>>180524586
>think up feature
>note it down
>continue spending months on basic functionality because I suck

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>tfw godot comes with a built in efficient A* that handles weight perfectly
it took me long enough to find simple way to do it but it works, it supports maps of any shape, weight is based on depth, it will affect movement cost of course, might add terrain difficulty because why not.
for people who cares, i'm not using a grid, the pathfinding map is a graph, so i don't need to have impassable tiles at all.
now i'll work on actors and movements, the placeholder for them will be a chess piece or something like that until i figure out how to generate rotated sprites on blender or i git gud at pixel art

>shit at art
>no money to hire artists
>also don't want to use free assets

how do i get gud at art for muh game ?
>inb4 read the >>>/ic/ sticky and spend years getting better at art

>>180530597
kill an artist and drink his blood

>>180530597
Go prove the quantum immortality theory by personal experimentation and you'll get enough money to afford artists.

>>180530640
that was an awfully tumblr-tier reply anon

>>180530720
i know and i dont even care

>>180530597
what do you want people to say? you have to put the time to get better at it

>>180530597
make a game that doesn't need art
collab with an artist (lmao)
get over yourself and either buy assets or learn art

it kind of depends on what you bring to the table, what genre are you making?

>>180530824
turn based pixelshit. it turns out i have no imagination, so I can't even design environments,let alone characters

>>180524586
Nah.

>Brainstorm feature
>Search references
>Create numerous mock-ups on paper, with notes on how plausible it is with my skill level
>Double-check my large repo of tutorials and examples to see if a rough basic version of it hasn't been done already
>Create entirely new project for feature, so that it's separate from my main game
>Start working on it in small parts, ensuring each part works perfect on its own
>???
>feature is done
>import feature into my main game
>make tweaks
>next feature

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>>180518423
And if anyone could check this one too and see what kind of FPS they get, I'd also really appreciate it.

https://xsomedevx.itch.io/stylizedfps

>>180531340
laptop fag here
about 72-80 fps on the first one
and around 80fps on the stylized one, lowest about 71 and highest going over 100

>>180531340
if you want that please just show the fps directly.
in both cases I get about 40 when there's a lot of foliage on the screen.
HD 7870, I did reply yesterday so it's not true you didn't get any answers.
and if you really care so much about FPS you shouldn't be putting le epic leaves everywhere.

anyone looking for animators/spriters? looking for fun projects to work on..

>>180531803
Sure! What drawing program do you use?

>>180531716
Wow that is better than expected. I guess you've got a decent laptop.
>>180531745
Ah, my fault, I stopped looking at the previous thread when this one was made. Thanks for taking the time to reply again!

To elaborate more, the first scene is assets I'm testing before selling them on the Unreal Marketplace. Performance there is mostly around the LOD meshes. As I thought, I definitely need them to lower in detail quicker, which should help anyone below 60 in that scene.

The second is more a design issue. I want to see if that level of density is practical with cheaper art assets. (It's not.)

anyone ever do stuff with the Divinity Engine?

Good luck

>>180531340
FPSPROBLEMS: High 120-ish, low 68
FPSTEST: High 90, low 64
i5 4590, RX480 8gb, Win10

If you are currently procrastinating, you must explain the simplest task you could complete in an hour that would make progress on your game.

>>180523462
>Consoles have actual standards that you need to fulfill to get your game on their platforms.
Didn't sony let on some garbage mobile tier game? Life of black tiger or some shit.

>>180533305
B-but I'm not

>>180533305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MS2tFZd2xk

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Any of you ever think about open-sourcing your game? I could really do some work on it, really lay into it in ways that maybe you don't have the experience for. Show me your game, let her decide

>>180534619
>fucking up and using a feminine pronoun, making explicit the game=woman joke
Eh, 2/10. Could've been better.

>>180534431
first time I see this, my 4th in a row now, wow

>>180534619
I don't want to open source my game for the following reason.

I want other amateur game devs to be able to use my free project for learning and I also don't mind if they use bits and pieces from my project in theirs, whether their projects are commercial or not. The caveat would be that the copied part refers back to its source - my project.

There is also this problem. I make a lot of work for my project. Some scumbag comes along and slightly recolors my sprites and sells it somewhere. That's a no-no.

But I wouldn't mind if someone copied my project, made SIGNIFICANT changes and modifications to it and then sells it somewhere.

Do you know what license does that? I don't.
>Commercial use forbidden for the project as a whole
>Commercial use permitted for bits and pieces of the project
>Commercial use permitted for derivatives of this project with significant changes

Could I put some kind of license on an unlicensed bit of code I found in the wild, and effectively stop the original author from continuing on their own project?

>>180534619
Obvious joke aside I always thought it would be an interesting idea for a Jam to have one dev working one week on a project and have other dev finishing it on the next week, with no communication between them at all. Then the first dev states how different from his original vision it became.

>>180535678
Unless you have an extremely difficult to copy innovation (ex:DOOM engine back in the 90s) anyone who's capable of using your shit with significant changes will just make it on their own.

>>180535847
that would be cool but reading another programmer's code (especially us amateurs) would be so frustrating and time consuming it isn't even worth it.

>>180530597
How good of a coder are you? I'm just sitting on a shit ton of unused sprites because coders with good game dev experience/work ethic are hard to come by on campus. i would be willing to collab if your shit is decent

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>>180532026
I make concept art with traditional materials (pencil, ink) and convert them digitally. I'm a sucker for Aseprite-the UI is great and at this point, the short cuts let me animate pretty fucking quickly, compared to more complex programs

>>180535812
do you have a pile of money you're willing to spend on lawyers to try and sue some random internet person? be aware that you'll most likely end up having to pay his legal expenses as well when the court realizes what you're doing. but if you really like giving free money to lawyers then go ahead and do it, i'm sure they won't mind.

>>180535893
here is another reason for this kind of license
it is a collaborative project. I want to provide peace of mind to collaborators that the other collaborators cannot profit from their free work unfairly.

Unfair Situation Examples:
Example #1. We finish the project. The artist anon copies the project. Slightly alters the art and sells it by oneself.

Example#2. We finish the project. One of the programmers adds a single tiny new feature after that and sells it as derivative while the others gain nothing from it.

However, the collaborators should not be permanently separated from their work. Here are fair situation examples.
Example #1. Programmer is on a new project. A feature he is implementing is also present in the finished project. To save time, he copies the implementation of that feature from the old project.

Example #2. Artist is on a new project. Sees that he could save a lot of work by remixing a few art assets from the previous project.

Example #3. One of the devs of this project wants to make an independent sequel to this game and sell it. He forks the old project and improves it significantly, adds a new story and new assets.

>>180536179
王

>>180535961
Yeah, that's pretty much what kills the idea, and commenting the code too much could break the whole point of not having communication between the 2 devs. I still wish we had some experimental jams like those once on a while though.

>>180531340
8GB of RAM and 2GB HD Radeon 6970 with an FX-8150 3.6Ghz.

I'm getting about an average ~25 FPS when I'm looking at all the grass and scenery. When running around, I strangely go up by about 2-3 frames. Looking off into the distance I get about ~30 FPS.

You are honestly the first person to release something made in UE4 that can actually kind of run on my system. You should really add the ability to close the program with Escape though instead of writing QUIT in console.

Of the few of you who actually got a job from your game deving, are you actually in the field of game development, or in some other related field like software or web development?

I'm curious if there's a point in learning Unity for an actual job, and not just indie deving. I'd much rather make my games in something other than Unity and not torture myself to learn it for the sake of employability if I don't have too.

>>180518870
Is that Ulililia in the back?

>>180537349
>Mistaking the God of game development with some lonely plebian

I bet you don't even degrease your pizza

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>>180515198
I want to make a game centered around operating a 2D interface full of graphics and text, simulating a simple computer OS. What's the best engine for this? I heard Her Story was made in Unity, but apparently Papers Please was made in something called OpenFL. I'm asking as someone whose game making experience has only included gamebryo mods, Source Engine maps, and crappy pokemon ROM hacks.

>>180537484
Yeah, my bad, dude is sitting in a chair so it can't be him.

>>180537518
There's absolutely no reason to do this shit in Unity, but pretty much any 2d engine will work.

>>180537257
>I'd much rather make my games in something other than Unity
which one did you have in mind

>>180537257
you're not gonna learn development with Unity

>>180537586
Any suggestions for a 2D engine based on what I want to do?

>>180536986
eyy

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>Unatco... hacked
>Banks... all hacked
A little bit rigged because agdg.png is already on the server, would do the bruteforce/ssh/upload but "somehow" ssh became broken. But that aside, things are back to working with SQLite -> html -> the embedded browser. All this just to have have something on screen to give an example of where you can buy malware from

>>180537257
Good programmers are hard to come by, especially at the entry level, Unity by itself is probably not that valuable to a software development shop, but if it means you spend time with C# and truly understanding programming and architecture, then yeah its worth it, but only because of what it lets you do. Not to mention it probably gives you an exe in the end you can show to someone as proof you can actually see things through to some kind of end product

>>180533049
>>180537138
Thanks guys

>>180537518
>>180537660
The proper answer comes to what you feel more comfortable working with at that point.
For something as simple as what you had in mind Unity is kind of overkill and any 2D engine could work perfectly instead.
If you aren't familiar with any programing lang at all Game Maker is a good starting point. It will work for a project like that and it could introduce you to coding to some degree.

>>180537762
I know Python and SQL, but I've never used either for anything with a graphic interface.

>>180537589
I'd rather make them in Godot or UE4, or attempt to roll my own way with SDL

>>180537518
For reference, this is Unity
>>180537723

+ built in editor/logging, profiling tools etc
- some unity-specific "gotchas" that will waste your time

An OS can be as simple as a dialogue system with a fancy menu, so theres nothing special about it that requires a specific engine. Unity has lots of bells and whistles, but it also feels heavy to use

>>180537840
>Python
There's PyGame and Pyglet frameworks to make games. Godot also has a pretty similar personal scripting language that is based off of Python, so you might feel comfortable there.

I'm not sure if RenPy would be good for what you're wanting to make, but that's also an option if possible.

>>180537927
I'm pretty sure UE4 will still help you in terms of employability if that's what you're concerned about.

Honestly, you could still put "Intermediate knowledge in Unity" in your resume if you really want to put Unity in there somewhere.

I think in the end what matters is a portfolio of finished games (doesn't necessarily have to be complex games) you can showcase.

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i dumped some steam keys in this thread btw

>>>/v/381535807

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>>180538623
>he even linked it here too
CAN HE BE STOPPED?

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>>180538681
im onto you

>>180538738
You're still an absolute madman.

>>180538623
>Free "This game is great, developer has big dick" reviews on steam

GENIUS

>>180538623
I remember you, glad you did not give up

>tfw watercolor painting has lots of drying time involved so you gamedev until you can put on the next layer

>>180539176
Now, make a game with watercolor looking shaders!

>>180538089
Would you mind elaborating on how it feels "heavy" to use? I'm having a hard time finding tutorials on this sort of specific game. Most of the tutorials are just "generic mcgenericsons shootergame"

>>180539216
the new wonder boy has cutesy pseudo-watercolor graphics at least

>>180539342
I'm still blown away the game was created with its own engine. I thought for sure they made it in Unity. Makes me happy.

>>180539082
thanks, i was close. good luck on your games senpai

>>180539481
I was more surprised that it was made by canadians

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>>180515198
Are there any good tutorials for starting out with Unity on youtube? Seems like all the ones I run across are utter shit.

>>180539839
That would explain the sudden inclusion of the choice to play as a female protag.

They could've at least made her look like Asha

>>180539924
Unity is shit.

https://unity3d.com/learn/tutorials scroll down till you see "Topics"

how do I learn love2d, I can't seem to understand it. Do I have to learn coding?

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>>180540229
>Love2D
>A Lua framework for game development
>Do I have to learn coding?

Yes.

>>180540229
>LÖVE is a framework for making 2D games in the Lua programming language.

hmm i wonder if coding is involved

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Help I enjoy making goofy subweapons too much

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Small progress.
Added red haired and blond male villagers.
Most of their animations are already done, only lacking their death animation at the moment.
They still act exactly like the girls at the moment, but I'll be adding new stuff for them soon.

>>180540767
I'm curious, are you making this in GameMaker?

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雰 囲 気

Is it bad to use fog in pretty much every level? Because I feel like I'm overusing it, but without it, the atmosphere doesn't feel right.

also i hate webm because it washes the fuck out of colors while gif doesn't

>>180541057
damn, the art in this is pro as fuck

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>>180540857i
Yes, and a pretty old version of it. It's kind of difficult to step out from my comfort zone and I never had any issues with it, besides it works great for simple stuff like this.

Reposting yesterday's gif with the black haired guy that didn't appear in today's one.

>>180541057
yeah you should probably not include it in every level, pick what levels you think benefit from it the most and then try to find alternative ways to create atmosphere, otherwise it won't feel right if all levels have fog.

>>180541201
Honestly, I'm just happy you're not making it in Unity. Are you using Game Maker before it was labeled Studio? I've attempted to give GameMaker a try, but I find it's UI pretty hard to navigate. Know of any guides to help get used to it?

>>180541057
love the artstyle, are you the guy who made the tranny game?

>could be making great art for a project but get memed to death whenever I offer
oh well

>>180541523
I'm using 6.1, I know Studio has a lot of advantages over this, but the longer compiling times drive me crazy. Patience is not exactly my strongest point.
I always found GM's UI pretty simple, but maybe I just got used to it after using it for so long, so I'm not sure on what kind of advice I could give you on it. Unity on the other hand, I started playing with it recently but I'm having a hard time getting used to it, so yeah, I'll stick with GM for a while, specially for 2D stuff.

>>180541057
>2D characters with 3D backgrounds is making a comeback

Fuck yes!

>>180541057
Whimp the bold clone

>>180541903
Show art

>inb4 do u have a game?
>inb4 don't waste my time

You don't have art, you're just shitposting and you're starting to be as annoying as the samefag spammer with your bullshit.

>>180541870
yes
>>180541903
Just make your own project.

>>180541905
The only way to learn Unity is to watch the collection of tutorial vids, which feels slower to me than just reading documentation. I feel their documentation doesn't explain their tools nearly as well as their tutorials, but I also don't want to sit through hours of videos to learn how to use a damn tool.

>>180542043
this is exactly what I mean, thanks

>>180542048
can't code, anyhow wasn't looking to change anything just a feelsbad moment

>>180542071
>The only way to learn Unity is to watch the collection of tutorial vids
no?
I never watched a single unity tutorial video.

the documentation explains everything you need along with examples of how most functions work. perhaps its your first time using an API or something.

>>180542146
Just show your work, fuck

>>180542146
You can use blueprints you dumbo.

>>180542048
you're game was cool but it was a big misstake pandering to the SJWs

>>180542209
why, so you can say "hurr hurr not interested good luck"?

>>180542254
I just really don't know how to get into any of that, it's not happening, but thanks

>>180542331
No, because I'm genuinely interested.

Now please post

>>180542048
>>180542296
fuck I meant *your

>>180542071
The issue I have with it, is that I feel a lot of stuff relies on lots of other stuff and to me, that's kind of hard to get used to. I remember having read a couple of similar opinions about it here, so to some degree I'm glad I'm not the only one tha feels that way.
I still plan to get into it, but I know it will take me some time.

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Why aren't you guys making the next big GTA or Call of Duty?
You guys are shit.

>>180542381
There's no way I would've gotten $12000 in kickstarter bux without them though.

>>180542379
I'm sorry but every single time I just get memed on. If you have a game and want to talk about it that's another story

New to AGDG, I'm working on a low-res unity fps but I don't have much art to show since I'm working on it today, I've got a lot of the codebase done though

>>180542509
>GTA or Call of Duty
Why would we make the shittiest games in existence?

>>180542518
I have a simple platformer game that could use art. Seriously, post.

>>180542585
because that's where the money's at yo

>>180542617
alright, well I've still been bitten before exactly like this. want to go into more detail? show some pics?

>>180542526
>low-res unity fps
This is like, the most retarded choice of the game to make.

>>180542331
>download UE4 or some other engine
>watch tutorials
In the first 2 days of learning UE4, I have a first-person game with hunger and stamina systems, replenishable battery, save/load and objective systems, enemies that hunt you when they see you, turrets that shoot when you get in their viewing range, and SuperHot-like time control when you move or stop. Including the environment and vegetation.

I just bought a bunch of games and I want to nodev all day.
But DD is soon and I still have a bunch of stuff to do.
HELP

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So I added sou.. eerr I mean metal as currency which you will be able to purchase uppgrades with.

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How do you use construction for your pixel art? Do you draw the pixels over a sketch?

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>>180542627
>doing it for the money
There are far more effective and arguably easier means of making money, gamedev is not one of them, dummy.

>>180542697
that's great? but like, I'm really just an artist so I'm not sure what you're getting at here, not going to do any coding

>>180542739
That's why I said that you can use blueprints, that's not exactly coding. But it's fine if you don't want to do it, just saying that it's pretty easy to start with it.

>>180542730
but hopoo is a millionaire

>turn on avoidance
>my AI is instantly 5000x more intelligent and effective

that was easy, thanks unreal

>>180542823
Because he made a good game for the sake of making a good game. Making a game for the sake of money puts you at the level of a AAA shitter, or even worse, someone like Gogem.

>>180542664
Believing for a one post that you are not troll, how exactly was you memed? Just out of curiosity, I don't need art or anything but if your art is even bit better than "programmer art", I don't see a possibility of it getting shitted on here(besides maybe several stupid trollposters like pedohater or gogem but you should never consider them even as replies).

>>180542694
Don't talk to me or my game ever again

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>>180542664
It's just gonna be a real simple mario clone, not really making something to ship and make cash on, just practice.

Here, I posted mine, so post yours

>>180543157
ha, I gotcha, yeah. I'm also looking for practice more than selling something.
I'll find something to post. yeah I sometimes go back and forth on my total lack of coding ability. you say blueprints could be a way to go? what engine are you using?

>>180543253
Unity, still getting the hang of it. I think blue prints are in UE4, not Unity though

>>180543382
oh, I see. hey, really sorry to do this and I know how it sounds, but actually I'm just not interested in working with unity right now. good luck though

>>180543436
>I'm afraid of getting meme'd on
>Get meme'd on

okay

>>180543523
listen I'm just not interested. really sorry it couldn't work out

>still falling for the agdg artist with no art meme

>>180541903
What kind of art? I use UE4 if you need to get the memes out of your system. Also space games.

>>180543639
hey, that's cool but reading up, I don't think I'd want to work with UE4. Good luck though

>>180543634
i dunno if people here are retarded enough to keep falling for it
of if they are autistic enough to still find it funny

>>180542715
>implying I can into construction

Convince me to spend a shitton of time learning C++, when I can just use blueprints. I'm not even clueless about programming and I worked in C++ in a first year of uni, but I still fucking hate it and don't want to use it.

>>180543959
>Convince me
Convince yourself, you wishy-washy hack

>>180543959
You don't need to, blueprints are good enough.

anyone has a link to pirated rpgmaker?

>>180544027
>>180544054
I got hurt by a yt comment like a baby and now seek for approval. Mean guy said we will never make it into industry with blueprints. :(

>yet another attempt to make art for a project accused of memery and dragged through the mud
not a big deal but kind of annoying I'll admit

>>180542823
https://youarenotsosmart.com/2013/05/23/survivorship-bias/

>>180544115
If your goal is to get a job as a programmer then yeah you will have to learn C++, but if you just want to make game then there's nothing wrong with blueprints.

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>>180543959
>Convince me to do something I hate

>>180544196
Honestly, I'd rather work as a 3D artist, so I guess it doesn't matter anyway, yeah.

>>180544115
I think blueprints were created so artists could do more than just create art, they can also design as well as make art. There's been a push for artists in the industry to do more.

If you're an artist, this will probably help you. If you're going for a technical job with C++ needed, it probably hurts you.

I heard Paragon was made exclusively with blueprints.

You could have made undertale right?
Why didn't you make undertale? How many more opportunities for such games do you think there are, what are you even doing with your limited time?

Convince me to make a game

>>180544149
welcome to shitposting central
post art next time and people won't think you are memeing them, like you seem to be doing are right now

>>180544483
>>180544487
Holy shit anon can read my posts before I type them

>>180544487
your conviction is irrelevant because you have no skills

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>>180544487

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>>180544483

>>180525462
get vines on some of those back rocks, get some flowers in the grass, get some fruit/birds in those trees.

>>180544483
but anon, I can't write, or make music

>>180544491
why should I bother when they either don't have a game, or we end up being incompatible before we begin?

>>180544570
Most gamedevs don't have skills either

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>>180544487
not gonna make it

>>180544487
Read https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=420174

>>180544679
but you CAN pander to Furries, Hikkis, Weeaboos, and Queers. That's basically all it took to be the millionaire that he is.

So what are you waiting for? DEV AND PANDER. DEV. AND. PANDER.

and then Stardew Valley came out. Why didn't you make that? You could have made something very similar, maybe you were even "working" on it.

But no more, oh no, not in your lifetime. Too slow and now you've lost it all.

game you like gets big update. ut ou this is gonna cut into dev time. i added numbers to the sprite font. working on conversations/buying stuff hiring people.

>>180544843
how about you show me your game
otherwise I'll laugh

>>180544843
I think you're thinking of triple A games, ones that use solely pandering to attempt to squeeze people for money.

>>180531340
looks pretty but a bit unnatural
all mushrooms grow in one place, all white flowers in another, all those red corn things in another

mix them up a little bit more maybe, or reduce the amount so they don't look so densely populated in their areas

You haven't been working for 11 years on Dwarf Fortress.

What have you been doing?

>>180544772
we all gonna make it