/twg/ - Total War General

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First for Rise of the Samurai best total war

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History and fantasy living in harmony or else you're in trouble.

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SHAMEFUR

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>>180410052
>mfw reconquistando Lustria and the Southlands

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Total War: World War 1: CHINA

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God damnit FUCK I hate chaos marauders jesus christ.

Just need to constantly micro my archers to fire on ones that aren't retreating because they come back 3 or 4 fucking times a battle. Then I've got chariots plowing through three lines of infantry into my archers anyways as I scour my mash of unit cards trying to decide if my 4 units of knights of the realm really did fucking disintegrate before I even knew what happened.

They need to have like half the fucking ammo, or at least only be able to come back twice, because my booty is fucking BLASTED

so I'm playing as WRE and I'm wondering if leaving britannia to it's fate and sending the army their some where else like Spain worth it or should I hold on to britannia? is it the secret god province?

>>180411857
>abandoning a single inch of roman soil

>>180411603
>relying on nights of the realm
>having more than 3 units of squires or battle pilgrims
>not replacing most of your infantry with knights and yeomen archers

You're a horsefucker faction, stop playing like you're rome.

>>180412062
can't I just take them back once I get on my feet?

>>180412352
>ABANDONING A SINGLE INCH OF ROMAN SOIL

>>180411857

That's a good idea

It's even better if you let them capture the settlement by only defending it by your garrison inflicting the most casualties possible, and then retaking it next turn to loot it and get shit load of money that way

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>>180412352
I'm afraid I must ask you to leave this general until you have wiped out your shame. I can't even look at you right now.

>>180411857

You pull in essentially fucking nothing in income from it at the start of the game, and it isn't worth the army upkeep you'll need to secure it, especially when those soldiers are better used defending provinces that already have some infrastructure, or using the gold to improve provinces you're not so likely to lose.

Not abandoning britannia is just something you do for fun and bragging rights.

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>13x germanic crossbows
>13x germanic spearmasters

the gayest army I have ever fought in attila
>hammer the spears with your cav and save your frontline but get annhilated by radious-tier crossbow units
>chase down all 13 fucking crossbows with your cav and your frontline gets annihilated by the spears

god I fucking despise germans

>>180412742
Not abandoning brittania is something you do to keep the stonhenge bonus and prevent incusions into gaul/belgica from the north - once you wipe out the celts one army can defend the isles, and if you let the barbar fucking shits have it you allow them to come down from the north via the land bridge and to anywhere they want on the coast via the sea - if you keep it however, you can hold belgica with one army at colonia agrippina

So I've been gone from this general for a while... are warhammer 1 and 2 not connected?

>>180413235
they will be after a period of time after launch - CA has said "weeks, not months" wait time until they release the free "mega-campaign" that will feature both the old and new world, but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets delayed

What is the worst decision Total War has made?

My vote is the whole region idea. Placing an army in a settlement makes the one hundreds of kilometres away happier, raiding that settlement will then make the other miserable, spreading religion to a town will make another faction entirely's disorder due to religion skyrocket, etc...

>>180413220
So I should focus down the the Celts then and keep the province. Alright.

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>>180413378
>weeks not months

I don't believe them

>>180414327
But that's true

8 weeks is still weeks :^)

>>180413803
Deciding to get into fantasy.

>>180413803
agents

>s2 agents can flip settlements, stall armies for years, and make turn times nightmarishly slow since they always go at the slow speed and you always have to watch their animations
>r2 agents can prevent reinforcements, debilitate entire armies and halt movement for years just like in shogun 2, as well as making turn times nightmarishly slow since they always go at the slow speed and you always have to watch their animations
>attila agents are a bit better than before, but will still ruthlessly pursue you especially if you play as a horde faction, I had one campaign where my Attila died after 3 turns thanks to agent spam from factions across the map. They also make turn times nightmarishly slow since they always go at the slow speed and you always have to watch their animations
>WH agents were absurd on launch, especially since CA didn't mention the exhaustion mechanic and certain factions didn't have assassin agents to deal with enemy faction agents. Better in this game since they can be used in armies however

Idk what they were like in other games, but they are fucking obnoxious with their targeted abilities in those games. I would have preferred it if they just had province/army passives, and could only actively target enemy agents

>>180414072
Thats my advice - if you build out garrison buildings in the proper settlements that barbars are drawn to (camulodunum, colonia agrippina) you can eventually just have one or two small armies holding off most of the nordic/viking factions, since in my experience that is where they like to send their armies

>>180413803

Making France and Spain one region

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When's Norsca?

>>180409971
*Fall of the Samurai

>>180414525
>he's never played the classics

so this is the face of nu-/twg/

Just reinstalled Warhammer, give me one (1) reason not to play as Bretonnia

>>180415637
FRANZ

>>180415637

Only their cavalry is worth a damn and you need to micro like crazy

But that's also a reason to play them

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Is this overkill?

>>180415917

no cost is too high when killing horsefuckers

>>180415581
>got into series with r2 emperor edition
>bought attila on release
>bought wh on release
>bought shogun 2/fots on sale bc I heard they were fun
>have heard that empire/napoopan are doodoo
>m2 ui looks atrocious from what screenshots I have seen, plus it seems like it has plenty of bugs that would enrage me, but I might pick it up just for the mods
>rome same as above, except I see no reason to buy it when rome2 exists
>shogun/medieval way too old

>>180416186

there is literally nothing wrong with napoopan

>>180416336
I thought it was the source of the 1 province france meme - or was that empire?

>>180414803
Alright thanks for the advice. also in case anyone wanted to know I got the idea of sending the army in britannia to spain from a guide I saw on opening moves for WRE.
I know I probably should've just done it on my own but since it's my first time playing WRE and Attila proper for that matter I thought a guide might help.

thanks again anon.

>>180416531
Empire.

>>180416531
Empire hurts because it's obvious how much potential it had.
Napoleon is a good, solid game however I prefer the setting of Empire.

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>>180416186
>he started with rome 2

>>180416553
>first attila campaign
>wre

you are in for a wild ride

>>180416793
EE though, so he probably never experienced the horrors that those who bought it on launch did

>>180413803

Limiting your number of "armies" and not being allowed to station detachments as a garrison or have promotions to "generalship" or "nobility" as it were, or as forward scouts, or anything... I've spent hundreds of hours on Rome 2 and I'm fucking done. I wanted to love it so badly because I like a lot of things about it... But overall it's just shit. It fucking sucks. What the fuck were they thinking with so many decisions about this game... Holy shit...

When does the civil war trigger in legendary FotS, how many provinces?

>>180417003
Still a shit game.

>>180417051
Also if you lose a province and take it back does that count as two or is it total number

I googled but i can't get a firm number.

>>180417020

OH and to continue, what I hate not most but an easy number 2: Compensating for a fucking garbage campaign map by simply keeping it zoomed in low, to try and "trick" me into thinking that it's not fucking tiny. I'm so goddamn sick of playing musical chairs with cities and ending up in siege after siege. God fucking damnit... Sorry but I haven't ranted about this on the internet yet. There, I'm done. Damn it. I'm sorry /twg/ I know you've probably heard it a million times and now it's out of my system and I'll leave you alone. FUCK.

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In a "Civil War" with negatives to integrity and public order, but the people I'm supposed to be fighting a civil war with have buggered off across Europe.

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>>180417020
They were probably thinking of this, fucking moron.

Anyone have the image of the people cutting elf ears off?

>late game attila as wre
>winter covers most of the map with snow
>stays in spring
>majority of the map impassible for half of the year
>no traits, traditions, or technologies that help with this

slows the campaign to a crawl

>>180417884
>>>/tg/

Is that preorder bonus race pack thing still going for TWWH2? I don't know if its still the "first week" or not.

>>180417936
It gets posted here a lot.

>>180417779
>not a problem in Rome
>not a problem in Medieval 2
>problem in Empire
>not a problem in Napoleon
>not a problem in Shogun 2

>>180417953
"the first week" thing refers to the first week after release of the game.

>>180418069
t. nostalgiafag

*THIS* is what I call a win condition

and it only took me 450 turns

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>>180419085
shieet forgot pic

>>180419085
Whoa...

>>180419270
>northern border princes still in ruins


shame on you anon

>start VH Fujiwara campaign
>sister clan betrays me as per usual so I kick their shit in with rank 4 warrior monks I crippled my economy by rushing for
>take both their provinces by turn 20 but have a shit economy
>get settled in for some comfy economic growth & start building farms and food stores
>realise it's a short campaign and I have 68 turns to make it to Kyoto
well fuck

>>180419270
>Kraka Drak lost

You call that a victory, milkdrinker?

>>180419085
>>180419270
Hope you had fun clearing out the Norsca. Took me at least 50 turns and I lost about 90% of my armies, there's so many little fucking settlements hidden around in the north and if you don't find and raze every last one they regain half of their old territory within 5 turns.

>>180417481
Well that solved it self.

>>180417481
Based fellow Langobard player

>>180421476
Langobards are a great faction

>great berserker inf
>great anvil inf
>great germanic spears
>great 200 range germanic archers
>great noble germanic cav
>horse hewers if you want to win the cav engagement sooner

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>>180415917
When it comes to horsefuckers there is no overkill, only remove.

>>180419270
I had a campaign like this too... But I couldn't get the "have all trade resources" achievement because the dumbass dwarfs refused to build a beer building.

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R8 my army comp lads, thinking about swapping out 1 of the xbows for another large onager, since I can't ever seem to get more than 100 kills with my xbows but my large onagers obviously usually get over 200.

>>180409627
>new dlc for Rome 2

What? I'm sorry but what? Holy shit what? This is a joke or are they finally going add in politics or what? Port mechanics from Attila?

>>180422417
Needs more CATAFRACTARII

>>180414525
Boy you ain't seen shit. Come back to me when you constantly have to shift your daimyo to different sea ports because there's an army of max level geishas honing into him no matter where because the AI cheats and fog of war doesn't exist. And you sent all your own ninjas and geisha to stop them but nothing could because there's so many of them and they're all fucking max and they're leaving a trail of dead bodies in their wake and all you can do is hope you can finish grinding the enemies last 5 provinces down before they catch up to him and your entire campaign is fucking done because they already assassinated everyone else.

>>180423228

sounds like real life

Currently installing Warhammer now that it's piratable, having not played any TW games since Medieval 2. Pick my starting race.

>>180423491

Franks

>>180409627
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Can't spell cOPy pasta without OP.

>>180422983
unfortunately they are replaced by
>light shock cavalry

the scholae gentiles

>>180423491
go azhag the slaughterer for orks anon, the things he do are amazing

>>180423491
depends

If you want a mostly classic feeling to get you back into the Total War style of things that still has some of the fantasy elements of Warhammer go Empire

If you want a straight-up unique fantasy experience then go Vampires

Orcs are essentially just hordes from Attila with some slightly different mechanics, if you don't give a shit about campaign management but like battles do them.

Dwarfs are just Empire but magic is replaced with steampunk shit.

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Can't say I expected to meet the Visigoths by the banks of the Nile.

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>>180422417
>Large onagers
I forgot those things even existed. Didn't even see the Huns using the damn things. I wish ERE could into armored skirmishers.

Any tip for playing the Beastmen, especially early on?
I love them but I always end up avoiding too much battles early on.
Their low and mid tier units (ungors, gors, and centigors) feel like trash compared to other races equivalent troops, especially if they're fielding archers and armor.

>>180424353
>tagmata
>armored shock cav
>armored saggitarii
>armored legio

Wish I had some of that goodness right now, it triggers my autism to spam units like Herculiani and Scholae Palatinae in all of my armies, but I will probably have to do it when I get the money for it

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I just reinstalled Rome 2. Convince me I didn't make a mistake.

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Really makes you smile

>>180424892
Literally no harm can come from installing a game. Worst case scenario you occupy a few hour's time.

>>180424512
Campaign wise I tend to roll with both Hordes, keeping one as my real army, the other as just the one lord and overflow if main army gets too full. I hide with the main army, and raid with the other army to draw in enemy armies which I can take on. With this I can pull out garrisons and open up juicy settlements.
Personally I don't bother with Gors, I stick with Ungors as low tier chaff and get my Minotaurs early. Also like to field a good amount of poison dogs, great for anti archer, artillery, and routing unit abuse.

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>>180425069

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>>180425850
ALBERIC D'BORDELEAUX

>>180425850
AHHHH, MEDIOLANUM

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>>180425850

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>>180407252

I FUCKING PASSED DAMN

HOLY JESUS CHRIST

I LOVE YOU /TWG/ I ALWAYS TRUSTED IN YOUR BLESSINGS

>>180427543
So heroic or phyric victory?

>>180427543
Nice. My exam is tomorrow on Roman history so I hope I do okay.

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>>180427543
congrats m8

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>>180427543
Good job lad.

Can someone explain to me how the WRE army works in Attila.

I don't know dick about the time period other then Rome falls and Attilas a cunt.

For the ancient world I know all about hastati principes and triarii and the later legions. But there's so many fucking units on the WRE roster I don't know what to do. Nothing looks Roman and I don't know what to make my army of. Also why does it seem like the early Roman soldiers suck so fucking bad? Their attack is so low compared to their barb counterparts. I'm overwhelmed by the options and my inexperience with the soldiers of the time.

>>180427543

*declares war*

heh, not so fast... kid.

>>180428169

do a quick read of the wikipedia about the timeframe so you enjoy the game

>>180428169

>For the ancient world I know all about hastati principes and triarii and the later legions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limitanei

>Also why does it seem like the early Roman soldiers suck so fucking bad? Their attack is so low compared to their barb counterparts.

This was CA's gameplay design choice to ensure you're defending instead of going into the offensive, to make it more historical. I believe WRE and ERE have the best defensive stats with their units

>Nothing looks Roman and I don't know what to make my army of.

That age was over by then, most Roman armies were lead and had Germanic soldiers. In some cases they were more "Roman" that the actual Romans in power. Like Stilicho who fought, bled and saved the empire on multiple occasions and he was actually half Vandal. He ended up being one of the last "True Romans" but sadly ended up being assassinated by Emperor Honorus as a reward

>>180428169
afaik:

The size of the empire was so large the romans had to rely on a defence in depth approach, as well as use troops traditionally used for protecting the empreror to defend the borders. This means there are different kinds of troops available

>Limetani
basically vigiles that are expected to hold the limes for a period of time, but not expected to win so that the bulk of the army can show up and reinforce them
>Comitatenses
Troops not stationed at a lime, these guys are the ones in the field armies that act in a manner similar to what a traditional army would do
>Palatina
Elite troops that are part of the field armies, ranking above the comitatenses

I wouldn't advise doing things historically in Attila, as it really doesn't work with the game mechanics.

As for what troops are roman, most of the troops in the roster are "roman", but have various barbars sprinkled in due to the high barbar population in the military (you will notice barbarian looking guys in various troop models). Foederati Spearmen/Noble Foederati Javelinmen are the only distinctly non-roman units in the roster - as their name implies they are made up of Foederati: allied tribes that have settled on the borders of rome in a sort of pact where they get aid from rome in exchange for fighting alongside rome

Now for army comps: early game your units aren't going to have a lot of melee attack compared to other factions because they are mainly meant for defense. If you really want high attack troops there is the palatina line (protectores domestici -> armigeri defensores -> elite palatina) these guys require upgraded inf barracks but have better melee attack/weapon damage but worse armor iirc.

Your core troops will mostly be the basic spear line (limetani borderguard -> comitatenses spears -> western auxilia palatina -> cornuti seniores) and the legio line (cohors -> legio -> legio comitatenses).

>>180429773
So the lime mints should fight in prepared positions or cities and never venture out. Where's the Palintina and the comitense should be field armies. But what about the something something Hercules seniors

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>Tfw your family influence is only about 25% of the total faction influence but it doesn't matter since you have the complete control of the senate

>>180430216
your skirmishers are your best source of killing power early on - it may seem tempting to disband all your levis armaturae early on, but don't underestimate the amount of damage they can do.

Since cav is so important in attila, you are obviously going to want cav in all of your armies. Early on you are only going to have access to scout equites, but if you use them right they can be life savers. Eventually you'll get access to the true melee cav (equites dalmatae -> equites promoti, scholae palatina) and shock cav (contarii -> catafractarii -> scholae gentiles), all of those units are not great but will do fine since cav is so strong in attila.

Your skirmishers will upgrade into better versions of themselves (levis -> matiarii -> exculcatores) and you also get access to Noble Foederati Javelinmen, who are expensive as fuck but have spears in melee and are a sort of hybrid unit that can do ok in melee with shit tier troops.

Your ranged units are kind of horseshit until you get to your xbows, sagitarii are ok but the wre doens't have armored sagitarii like the east, and funditores are just slingers. WRE has the best xbows in the game however.

>>180430392
herculiani are basically praetorians. They are supposed to guard the emperor and as such are the best inf the WRE gets. If you don't care about historical accuracy you can use them as your main line inf in the late game to great effect, since they basically combine the offensive power of the palatina with the defensive capabilities of the standard legionaries

>>180430392

>Hercules seniors

Like the other anon said, try not to play completely historically. IIRC Hercules seniors were personal bodyguards of the Emperor and would defend the capital, they never were seen anywhere else. I could be wrong tho. And I believe FOTE(the DEI of Attila) removes them from the roster entirely.

*looks around and smacks sword on shield*

>>180430216
>>180430747
Thanks man great information. Really useful.

I'm trying for historical accuracy. I think my problem was (I just got the game yesterday) was that I did not like the sound of unit replacement. So I got a mod that removed it. Suddenly there's so many options and I'm completely unfamiliar with the names and titles of units in the late era fall of Rome. Iv just been spamming cohors with border guard spearman as anti cav and getting my face wrecked.

I'm honestly thinking of just restarting. Fucking off with all my armies to Briton and burning everything else. Or the same but stay in Italy and keep Italy and Sicily.

>>180430392
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovians_and_Herculians

>>180430967
as someone doing a wre playthrough right now, I would strongly advise you don't do a historically accurate playthrough - you don't have enough army slots to do the limetani/field army deal, and even if you did the limetani troops are absolutely horseshit and you should upgrade away from them asap. WRE campaign is fucking hard enough already without limiting yourself to shit tier troops

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>>180428169
>>180428878

This is all I needed to watch for Attila's backstory, among other videos

https://youtu.be/asZu9VKpIxA

>>180431101
It was so much easier in Rome 2 and Rome 1. Early Roman army for me was mounted general 4 hastati 4 principes 4 triarri 4 velites and 3 equates. Late game army was foot general 8 legionaries 4 veteran legionaries 4 aux bowman and 3 of the good Roman cav whose name escapes me. I'd supplement that with the occasional frontier border army of auxiliary spearman up to 15 of them in a stack with 4 bowman and a general and there job would be to sow down enemies crossing rivers or attacking cities until reinforcements could arrive.

I just lost a 4stack vs 3 stack offensive attack battle because I cant fucking process controlling 3 stacks at once while the AI can.

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ANCIENT EMPIRES WH- ah, who the fuck am I kidding, it's never fucking coming.

>>180428169
Try something along the lines of >>180422417

>>180427543

lmao, credits rolling for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj_kRsTUwJc

>>180432074

Just hunt their general, rout their weaker unit, then rout the second weaker unit, then mass rout a stack, mass rout the second one, and that's, you probably need to micro a stack and let the other two camp

>>180418590
>S2
>nostalgia
Are you a retard?

>>180433528
Are you?

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>tfw going to have to go on a crusade to root out the last g*rmans who have migrated to the steppes
>going to have to deal with more crossbow/spearmaster spam in the fucking steppe
>snow attrition 3/4 turns of the year
>if I don't deal with them they will continue to send troops to my core provinces while I am busy in Sassanidland

God damnit

>>180432087
Please tell me this is from a porno.

>>180434669
>at&t girl

I fucking wish

>>180434895
Oh, damn. I guess I miss some QTs by not watching TV anymore.

>>180413803
Fantasy without a doubt

>>180434261

You realize the game is practically over for you, right? If you reconquered all those places of the WRE and stabilized everything there really is no challenge there anymore.

>>180435627
The game isn't over until he has conquered everyone anon

Are there any extensive overhaul mods for Warhammer out yet like DeI?

So why is it in Attila if somebody declares war on you they will pursue you and typically only you until the ends of the earth? Like they may have one settlement left and the Huns and countless germans are descending upon them, but they send out their two full stack armies to invade your land which is half a world away?

>>180433103
its easier when they dont have 3 generals

When does the steam summer sale start?

If the prices are good, I will deliver on my promise and provide a few people here with DLC packs. As I recall The King and the Warlord was requested by one anon and another wanted Welves.

new DLC when

>>180436346
Because CA doesnt have anyone working in the AI department

legends say there is a one of those desktop drinking birds at the AI development computer and its just been hitting A over and over for the last decade

>>180435693

But isn't that boring? Going after every single tribe? There is literally no challenge, its more work at this point than fun.

>No pikes
>No Kislev
>No Boarder Princes
>No banners actual banners, sergeants, or musicians
>Empire provinces still lacking the diversity of units and buildings it had in the table top

And they really want to make another game?

do you guys think that the next historical TW will let us name individual units?

it's a fucking 10/10 feature that all of the games should have, so much more potential for muh rp

>>180437184
They can always change or improve things later.

My greatest worry though is that as they progress along with each subsequent game, they'll never go back and improve or update the previous games, either DLC or just patches.

>>180437458
I think the next historical TW game will be more like TWW than previous historical titles. If that makes sense.

More focus on having a large junk force with a couple of key strong named units. Rather than just having 3 tiers of separated troops.

>>180436836
>What is reading comprehension
He is doing it in order to have an easier time taking on the Sassanid Empire that seem to control the whole Eastern part of the world.

>>180437458
I don't see why you wouldn't include it, spergs can get attached to their units and turbospergs can complain about it being a feature.

Is there no way to make TWW armies in the campaign support 41 units?

>>180437870
Physically impossible. Its an unchangeable database.

>>180437184

Shhh before you trigger the CA drones here

I really hate how Empire captains get full gryphins instead of just demi-gryphs. Sure they are more effective but I have a hard time justifying why a captain can ride the same super-rare mount as a high ranking general.

>>180438558
Why do dwarfs have no cool mounts? Its just chairs carried by more dwarfs. Why no dwarf steam wheelchairs or dwarf lords in gyrocopters playing fortunate son

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>>180424892
I managed to fix my mistake and am now having a very comfy time.

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>>180409627
>"You idiots! This is not him, you've captured his stunt double!"

What empire armies hard counter Norsk shits? Now that chaos is defeated and the north reclaimed I need a boarder guard to keep them out.

>>180438719
I think you mean 'It aint me' friend.

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>>180438719
DID SOMEONE SAY

G Y R O C O P T E R S

>>180438719

>implying dawi boots on the ground aren't more reliable than any manling nag or woodland beast

This is going in the book.

>>180437184
>>No banners actual banners, sergeants, or musicians
Do you realize how fucking expensive that would be?

To do a good job would require you to pay for modeling, new animations (unique to each instrument) as well as music.

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>>180438864
Why keep them out when you can wipe them out? Just make an army of all halberds, steam tanks, cannons, and reiksgard and genocide the norsemen. Hurt them so badly an aging metal guitarist turned murderous neo-pagan has to complain about it in a youtube blog.

>>180439150
Do you realize how expensive a new game with three new unique factions would be?

>>180439198
Very. Which is why they dont waste time and money on inconsequential shit like musical units.

They cant even afford to do all the default units, let alone all that extra shit.

>>180439093
The name of the song is actually "Fortunate son"

>>180439173
I might do that later but that will be a major undertaking. For now I want to consolidate my empire after the Chaso invasion and reclaim the southern boarder prince lands. Fight some orcs for a change.

>>180439242
Exactly how can you claim to know so much about CA's finances?

>>180438754
>playing Briton

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>>180439245

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>>180439150

>Do you realize how fucking expensive that would be?

This is some fresh bait

>>180439358
Gee if only people who worked within CA had done a huge number of posts about their financial situation in regards to TWW...

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/164869/total-war-warhammer-dev-blog-chaos-warriors-pre-orders-and-dlc

>>180439473
>is retarded
>says a retarded thing
>goes full damage control

>>180439480
>game development is free

>>180439561
It's a meme you dip.

>>180439518
>I think the nature of our games means our players are intelligent and rational thinkers

>>180439793
CA actually thinks they make games for smart gamers because they are so awful at TW themselves.

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>>180439793
Probably one of the most stupid things any CA dev has ever said

>>180439776
>damage control overdrive
wew lad, relax. just move along now

>>180438062
ironic

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>>180439448
I'm planning on doing this for fun because the alternative is just fighting other dirty barbars and maybe rome for the 100 time.

>>180413803
History without a doubt

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RIP the last of the KANGS. Africa is now rightful Roman clay.

>>180439173
Who is that "guy"? Is that Grace pre-op?

>>180439893
How new are you to not know this is a meme, buddy? You're a pirate blow-in aren't you, silly fantasyfag.

>>180440213
>this much damage control
kys your self, my man

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Goblin Dabbing

>>180439983
That actually seems kinda fun

Are you moving capital to Asia?

>>180439603
> you can sell your game for 120 without putting any money in its devellopement
Hi CA

All gunpowder Empire army is fun as fuck.

4 tanks, 2 volleyguns 2 mortars 1 hellfire 4 free company and 6 handgunners is efficient and fun as fuck. tanks are spread to catch the melee and are in front of the handgunners at 50% of the handgunner range. Volley guns are on the flanks aiming inwards if there is no cav or outwards if there is some. Free company is in front and on skirmish mode but needs controling to go to the flanks and protect volley guns.
Franz is flying over stuff, picking up cavalry and heroes. The insane drop in troop count and overall health that a concentrated 6 handgunner barrage does followed by one or two volley guns in insane. Chose didn't stand a chance

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>>180440746
Attila dabbing

Motors or rockets?

>>180440785
I'v never done a migration game before so I'm probably going to do it like British colonialism 2000 years early.

>>180413803
Ditching Med 2 recrutment system.

It allowed for diverse and realistic army compositions. You were forced to use your basic infantry for the whole game, because elite troops were always on cooldown. Now, once you get longbeards as dwarves there is literally no point in using warriors. Same for other factions.

>>180422642
No idea yet, there's supposedly going to be content for Attila as well at some point. all we know is "Something is one the way" and some concept art of a Gaul.

>>180425850
NORSCA

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HOLA AMIGOS!!!!!!

VEREIS, VENIMOS A LA FIESTA DE TOTAL WAR! UNIROS, SEREMOS MUCHOS!!!!


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLÉ!

>>180441823
Que?

>>180427543
ASININE EXAM

>>180440404
No you fool, part of the meme is purposefully misnaming the song Fortunate Son as "It ain't me"

Specifically because it causes confusion like this.

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>>180427543
Congrats Anon!

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ME on the right, (you) on the left
BLASTED

>>180437184
>raptors have squigs animation

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>>180441895
AMIGO, VEN AQUI TUMBATE A MI LADO

JAJAJAJAJAJA
TE QUIERO

>>180442349
no homo

>>180442328
People keep saying this, but has anyone made a comparison?

>>180442234
slann are ridiculous

>>180442234
>right
>brainless wagecuck
>left
>incredibly powerful wizard with lots of bling
I'm ok with that tbqh

>>180442131
>in full damage control mode more than an hour later

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>>180442697
>poweful wizard
>mannet cuck worstein has more spells than him


sure thing bro

Is it just me, or is TW in need of a shake up?

I feel like its about time they ditch some of the more basic features of TW and do something new, like removing regions and clear divisions between cities/towns.

I feel like TW doesnt really have any sequels, it just has the basic formula reskinned for different eras. We need a new generation of TW.

>>180437184
>>180442328
Why are why hyped for this game again

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>The last remaining factions of the world all turn on the Elves once the greater evil is destroyed.
>Even their allies turned on them.

>>180442234
>still havnt seen any crocs
STOP HIDING BEST UNIT CA

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>Vampire Coast are just regular VC
>Luthor Harkon is just a regular VC lord
>Lustria Dwarfs are just normal Dwarfs
>Estalia are just recoloured Empire
>State Troops in Lustria

H-Hold me lads

>>180442913
>Slann literally shaped the world
>vampires ????

>>180442913
Damn, the bitches are all over him!
Just look at all the hands on his massive abs!

>>180443246
Kek. Fuck the elves. They got fucked rekt by the minor human factions in the south after I killed off their silver/gold ranked murder stack in one of my campaigns. Tilea burned down the oak of ages.

Minotaurs wrecked my shit. Send help.

>>180443258
maybe they will release an asset creator so mods can make entirely new units.

I can't believe how much better the game is by adding custom maps to the campaign, so I'm hoping modders will be able to fill in more of the gaps

>>180443345
Lizards have no sex

They are robots

>>180443361
>getting sacked by a bunch of literally whos from the Border Princes
Elves on suicide watch.

>>180443386
Haha y-yeah maybe...

>>180443386
>maybe they will release an asset creator so mods can make entirely new units.

They already said they would never do this.

>>180443386
>maybe they will release an asset creator
Absolutely no chance of that ever happening.

>>180443471
they also said they wouldn't let us put custom maps in the campaign and had to backtrack when somebody managed to find a workaround.

Somebody just needs to find a janky way to add a new model and they will crack.

>>180443538
>they also said they wouldn't let us put custom maps
No, they never said that

They did however explicitly say GWS was not allowing them to release an asset editor because some faggot would go off and made LotR and other IPs

>>180443386
How is taht even a fuvking argument? God a fucking hate all this "mods will fix it" bullshit, jesus christ it's the devellopers job to fix their fucking shit game

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More than 1200 hours playing this game and this is the first time i actually see elephants

>>180443258
>new dwarf faction is led by a mysterious slayer who has forsaken his oath and gone rogue
>now surrounds himself with hordes of savage jungle orcs who worship him as a god because of how big n ard he is

fund it

>>180443649
>Fight the Indian army while riding a cow
I wonder what would happen

>>180443649
they are shit compared to r2 since impact damage doesn't effect cav units, just don't let them get into your inf

>>180443604
taht wasn't a fuvking argument you mongoloid, I'm not defending CA, it was just me hoping that it gets fixed somehow because we all know it would cost to many charlegmanes for them to make a few pirate zombie models and a unique lord for them.

>>180443649
Yeah that's a weakness of Attila compared to e.g Rome 2. You spend too much time fighting samey armies. They really should have made the moors or whatever playable from the start instead of making barbar clones. They didn't utilize the setting well enough imo.

>>180443258
>Vampire Coast are just regular VC
>Luthor Harkon is just a regular VC lord
This will be DLC, I don't doubt it at all.

Might get lucky with Estalia, might not.

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>>180443783
>This will be DLC

I am so fucking sick of this shit.

>>180443258
I didn't think they would put in the vampire coast(and the other factions) at all 2bh.

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>>180443741
I noticed. They just fucking melted when i rearcharged them.

>>180443763
>Jabbers cost 1 Charlemagne
>Jabbers would be about the cost of 2 normal units
>Around 40ish unique units in W2, plus art (4 Charlemagne), new campaign map (probably about 5 Charlemagne, new mechanics (5 Charlemagne)
34 Charlemagne's for Warhammer 2?!?!?

Has CA gone too far?

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>>180409627
What's his title again?

>>180443957
They have desu

>>180444230
SUPREME PIZZIARCH

Post kino mods
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=873964498

>>180444230

Arch Lector.

>>180444230
Silly anon, need I remind you? It's

DA SUPREEM PATRIARCUH

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unique mechanics in TWW2
Lizardmen
>junglepaths
unique stance that lets you bungle in the jungle
>jungle ambushers
your troops can move in an ambush stance and ambush the stacks they attack
Delves:
>elf paths
knowledge of ancient elven roads and magic lets you move quickly through map and obstacles
>slave economy
slaves increase income, basically peasant economy but with extra unrest
>masters of subterfuge
can ambush enemies they attack
Helves
>high elf paths
being a bunch of boring goodies they are carried on the goodness of their intentions and can move through obstacles
>elven council
appoint generals to positions of power for various bonuses
Skaven
>ratpaths
you can move through the underway
>slave economy
clanslaves can be used as an expendable force, but if you use them too much you have no one to work
>warpstone
capture settlements and secure military alliences to get warpstone resource to spend on units and buildings

>>180444230
RESCUE WHALE

>>180444230
he is always my Castellan Engineer desu

>>180444354
Wow just like every other fucking race, but wait, isn't those stances the exact same, and i think i recognize those animati-
But wait guys just look at this BASED and DANK lizard ROFLMAO XDD UPVOTE!
what do you guys think the 4th race will be? I think it hasn't be.... ratified :) XD

I like that "spend influence points to make factions go to war with eachother" thing high elves got. Also that "fog of war reveal through trade agreement" thing.

>tfw perfidious Ulthuan

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>>180444230
REICHSKMARSHALL OF THE REICHSKLAND YOU STUPID FUCK

>>180444545
Take it easy

>>180444284
does this decrease fps?

>>180444684
_no

>>180444574
Same here. mate.
I just wanna send out a two expeditions, preventing the vampire expansion and archeon steamroll.

Otherwise, I'll stay at my island, peaceful but perfidious.

>>180444354
This is a bad meme because CA is great at coming up with new and exciting mechanics, and EVEN the beastpaths have their own magnificent maps which /twg/ hates only cause they run their game on pentiums from 1996.

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I'm lying to myself thinking about how CA will implement an underground map layer for skaven just like HOMM3

>battle vs sissynigs
>sogdian camel raider charges braced heavy inf in defensive testudo
>still gets 90 kills

This war is going to be a nightmare

>>180444930
>This kills the average total war fag computer.

>>180444354
people said the same about welf and bret but loh and behold, they actually have interesting mechanics

>>180444807
>make a bunch of cool interesting maps that take place in the beastpaths
>instead of basing the beastmen ambushes there re-use the same shitty one for every single ambush no matter where in the world it takes place

really joggin my noggin

>>180444354
you forgot a few

Lizardmen:
>spawning pools
Can instantly recruit units from spawning pools, like raise dead

Delves:
>Slave auxilleries
win enough battles and you will have enslaved enough for an A.I. controlled Slave Army to follow your army around!

skaven:
>rat pack
hero units can spawn A.I. controlled armies if successfully sabotage an enemy settlement enough times

>>180444930
a man can dream, anon

>>180444545
Haha

Oi, to anyone who bought there, if I preorder TW:WH in Gamesplanet and pay in Euros, will that be around 43?
Or is that before taxes and will go even higher?
Cause for 43 I'd buy it, but for 49 I better buy it somewhere else.

Will Skaven spread normal Chaos corruption or their own ratty corruption?

>>180444807
>new and exciting mechanics
yes, i know! like the beastpaths, and the underway that somehow goes under fucking everything, the woodpaths, the fightyness mechanics that every race gets

pure genius and creativity

>>180445137
they already revealed the spawning pool mechanic tho

>>180444930
>>180445045
some old ass shitty RTS game had it, don't remember the name, armies of something

>>180445070
>they actually have interesting mechanics
>2 out of 3 welf mechanics are literally just a copy of other factions

>>180445137
ah yes, elfyness, rattyness and junglyness, how could we forget those

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>>180444930
ITT best homam maps
>broken alliance, homam 2

>>180445573
>wonder building win condition
>amber
>combat specific build for lord
fuck off shitter. CA is improving the game with each DLC.

>>180445805
>woodpaths is just beaspaths, orcpaths and underway
>elven council is just empires government
Also I really wouldn't use WELVES as examples of CA being good, considering that they didn't even bother to create any followers for welves, there is a handful of unique banners and thats it

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>>180445593
Man, that was my first HOMM game. I miss my main man.

>>180444354
Why are people still trying to push this meme when it hasn't been true since the fucking Beastmen DLC?

>>180440143
>WRE still around
How are they doing?

And who's your ally up North?

>>180444354
>warpstone
capture settlements and secure military alliences to get warpstone resource to spend on units and buildings

God nooooooo fuck ember!!!!

>>180445942
>woodpaths is just beaspaths, orcpaths and underway
World roots are part of the lore and fit the wood elf playstyle. There's no reason why they wouldn't have it in there other than satisfying retards crying REHASH.

>elven council is just empires government
They're pretty different once you go beyond the surface level.

>>180446146
>World roots are part of the lore and fit the wood elf playstyle
it could have been done much better, similar to how for example railroads worked in s2, i.e. instant movement across forests, none of the movement stances make any sense, because you have armies going over water, or elves going over places that have no woods at all

its an incredibly lazy mechanic

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>Abandon all hope
>Attila died 12 years ago
>>180446069
WRE is a puppet state under the Alamans. I'm just about to put them out of their misery.
The Ally in the north are the Burgundians. I honestly don't know what drove them to settle up there.

>>180446226
But that's not how the World Roots work in the lore.

>>180446290
>let's excuse shit gameplay because MUH LORE

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>>180446045
same, imho even the best homam out of them all. never really got into the third as most of the normalfags did

>>180446265
why does he look like he is trying to challenge me to fisticuffs?

>>180446290
do they work like in the game? ie movement through the fucking see? or badlands, or through norsca and manlet mountains?

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>>180446265
>WRE is a puppet state under the Alamans

how the mighty have fallen

>>180446318
What the fuck are you even blabbering about now?

>>180446386
Yes, that's exactly what they do.

They're like a weird wood elf nexus that lets them move around the world.

>>180446450
>the gameplay is shit
>"what if they make it better"
>B-B-B-BUT MUH LORE

autism

>>180446516
How is the gameplay shit?

Saying that the world roots stance doesn't make any sense is an argument based in the lore, not the game mechanics.

>>180446583
You really eat up whatever CA shits out, huh?

The type of person that would defend grail paths

>>180446583
Finding some dumb excuse in the dumb Warhammer lore for being lazy doesn't actually make the mechanic any less lazy

>>180446624
>grail paths
that doesn't even make sense. who would defend that. Now quest paths, that makes sense. Other factions can already teleport to quests so it is already established. I would definitely like to see quest paths in a future update.

>>180446054
Why do the same people respond to every post about warhammer saying how shit it is?

Historyfags are acting up again.

>>180443248
We've seen a glimpse of them doing a similar attack as the Minotaur barrel roll in one of the Lizardmen trailers. If they're half as fun as Minotaurs, all will be good.

rat roads

high elf HIGHways

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>>180446054
I still member the beastpath and the no waaaagh mechanic reveal videos

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>>180446849
oh great raptors will have squigs animations and Kroxigars the minotaur animation.

Neat

>>180446997
I hate playing the orcs because of fightyness

>>180446997
That was hilarious.

>That roster reveal.
>Charlemagne comparisons.

>>180447079
they are boring because you need to manage 40 guys in a battle to have a chance against early dwarfs

>>180447079
It sucks how bad the AI is at managing it

>confederate with other Orcs
>here you go three armies that all literally have 1 or 2 fightyness
Thanks

>>180442234
No idea why CA gave lizardmen stumpy fingers and made Kroxigors look so crocodilian. They have long snouts but apart from that they aren't crocodiles at all.

>>180447204
I think it makes them more thematic desu

>>180447204
I wish CA would do stuff like that more often to make Warhammer less boring

>>180446695
I will find that acceptable only if peasants cannot use them. They must be forced to use a lesser mechanic called Peasant Paths in order to force those who have peasant heavy armies to consider carefully if it's worth it.

>>180447253
not really, crocodiles aren't bipedal and it makes them look generic and uninspired. It's partly GWs fault for never updating the models since Bloodbowl has saurian kroxi's which look retarded as well.

>>180447296
Every design choice CA has made has made warhammer MORE boring. Look at a unit from warhammer, it has banners, sergeants, musicians all with unique themes and options, a lot more detail with much more variation between models and all this in plastic. Modelling it in a program is infintely easier than making designs in greenstuff and unique moulds. They practically butchered Vlads design with a flat cape and tiny fucking blood drinker, it's meant to be bigger than any human could hold in one arm.

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>>180447204
Remember when Kroxigors were good? Remeber 1995 when every single WHFB model looked better than it did in 8th?

>>180447520
No, I'm not some fucking nerd that plays with plastic toys

>>180447296
We've got a WoW player here, boyz!

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>>180447520
More is more and less is less. Just ask our patented lawyers who have never seen a gaming table in their lives.

>>180447517

>crocodiles aren't bipedal

Neither are lizards you fucking dingdong, and the WHFB Krox models were never any good

>>180447558
go back to your four unit types reskinned x12 and AHHHHH, THE ALPS! memes from stale B-list games that no one ever played

>>180447520
Can't say that looks better than the CA concept art, even if it is an old model

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>>180447664
Kroxigors should look like pic related.

>>180447558
total war is a nerdy franchise, played on a nerdy PC, using a nerdy IP. I'd say it's nerdier than tabletop all told.

>>180447641
I really hate how square looking a lot of the newer models are. I get it's probably a design choice to make them easier to mold or something but it just looks awful most of the time.

>>180447708
I sure love World of Warcraft!

>>180447558
>He didn't play with toys in the 95
What a sad childhood you must have had.

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>>180447708

>>180447747
How the fuck does that look like WoW?

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>>180447791
>>180447708
I sure love Arkham Asylum!

Batman Total War when??

>>180447664
Crocodiles aren't lizards either, they are strictly dinosaurs, like the rest of the lizardmen roster. GW just didn't want to call them 'Dinomen'. Slann should be frogs, again not a lizard, but CA made them look scaly for some reason.

>>180415050
Reform the line! Take them head on!

>>180447863

This is some top level autism

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?

>>180447846
Who is the Ottoman Empire of the Batman Universe?

>>180447934
Now THIS is what Kroxigors should look like

>>180447976
Joker in Arkham City

The sick man of Gotham if you catch my drift

>>180447963
>Sir, not appearing in this game.

I wouldn't mind these guys if it wasn't for having a weapon in the middle of their chest, thats just dumb.

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>>180448036
?

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>>180447863

Mazdamundi isn't "scaly" at worst he's kinda knobbly skinned, like a toad.

>>180447963
Even tho this is end times bloat, I'd still kinda sorta like to see these in the game because I'm a sad STUFF addict.

>>180447963

>End Times models

Get that garbage outta here

>>180448065
he's thiqqq

>>180448065
>one egg roll?!

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>>180448096
?

>>180447952
>I have no argument so I'll throw out autism

adapting material faithfully is autism? Enjoy your 100 generic fantasy titles because game designers don't put the same effort into making a unique setting that dedicated fans, authors and tabletop designers do since it's just another title out of a thousand they've worked on.

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This level of shitposting and baiting is one I haven't seen for a while. Lots of misinformation at the same time. This is a good show.

>>180448236
We are venturing on forbidden paths, which, incidentally, is also the name for an army stance the Dark Elves have

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>>180448065

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>>180448289
They can take me on all the forbidden paths they like.