Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

dragoon2

I swear I make it my lifegoal to kill Kim Hakkyu

>>180313036
>Doesn't have a counter argument
go back to selling your shit buffs for 50k a day.

>>180313083
>You can farm items to sell
Yeah to RMTers like I said.
>>180312778
>or selling extremely rare shit to people who did one of the above.

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I miss questing

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/u/ guild when?

>>180313360
>1 mill per hour isn't a lot because I make 2 mill per night

Afk farm has ruined everyones' expectations of what reasonable income is.

>>180313497
I don't, questing is literally the weakest part of this game, and the game is already weak as fuck. Being able to go from 1 to 50 barely grinding, then from 50 to literally 330 without having to do one exchange quest is literally the best part of the game.

>>180313079
Wugushi is cute! CUTE!

>>180313606
Play the game. AFK farming is only good because it's "afk", not because it actually brings money.

>>180313191
is shit

>>180313606
I make $60 an hour. That's like 40m per hour! Get fucked, poorshitters.

Is this a decent spookem build?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#213336999.1521354351.2f3f54617585.156575.253141617c8a95a5b5

>>180313939
Yeah, and people burn out, stop playing for a while, stop wanting to do the same dungeons every day, or just want to play other games. Afk farm lets these people continue to make money and cause inflation even without playing.

>>180314083
Cryo3 is shit unless you are chrono.

People should start taking Linker instead for necro/sorc builds.

>>180314254

The point of Cryo in necro builds is to move other necros with wall and macro the frost tree.

>>180314415
>macroing tree on necro
How to get banned 101

>>180314541

Tell that to the faggot doing it on Orsha for a long time now and he's still sitting there even though i've reported him with video.

You guys make it sound like AFK farming is a necessity or something

>>180314541
I've been afk farming next to a sorc who's been auto-recasting his summon every 60 seconds for over a month now. I've sent tickets to IMC twice and nothing happened.

>>180313606
Other games ruined my expectations of what a reasonable income is. Almost everything sells to NPC shops for pennies and is also not generally useful for selling to others or anything. Recipes used to have decent prices but that was nerfed. Grinding shit for hours on end is just botting but because you're clicking on the game and not a program, it's some how okay. It's just retarded slave work that you could just use a bot for the hour and then log off. You can run boring dungeons over and over for silver, you can fight against a stupid system to get "rare" drops to sell to people who made more money in less time than you, you can glean a 10% profit off a ruined crafting market.

And the worst thing is for what? What is the money even needed for except to dump into retarded gold sink attributes and upgrades. But people still complain about afking raising the prices. Dungeon running is still the biggest problem if people making money is such a crime.

>>180314182
Inflation isn't even a bad thing in this game anyway. You're just getting money to dump into static priced attributes and upgrades. Or are you scared you won't be able to afford your moe moe gatcha outfits with in game silver one day?

>>180314656
Most people here don't play the game anymore or are level 100 theorycrafters

>>180314656
it is for the fucking normie scum that plagues this general

>>180314656
Its just really good
Every account of necro running 24/7 gives you over 25m a month

Now imagine you have a spare pc running with 2 or 3 accounts through vms

Thats just 75m a month or so with almost no effort

>>180314653
>even though i've reported him with video
Make an actual post on the forum instead of sending a ticket.

>>180314782
Make a video and post it on the forum.

>>180314573
>Never autocollecting drops would be a huge pain in the ass when every mob drops a tiny bit of silver
I guess other mmos are a huge pain in the ass then.

>>180314896
>no effort
Don't you have to actually spend the time leveling all those, though? That shit takes awhile.

>>180314782

That too. I see people on my server's necros (because they're so fucking stupid they do this on their own account) constantly recasting TS. It's the same people I see opening cubes and selling cube shit the day it comes out so I guess we know why this happens.

>>180314984
We had leveling evens where you can get new chars to lvl 317 in a day man

Yeah now it takes a while but not before
Anyone who wasnt retarded made at least one or two necro/squire/templar/divine might accounts

>>180314817
>Grinding shit for hours on end is just botting but you're at the screen playing manually

Literally retarded.

>>180315075
Oh, well I'm new so I guess I missed out.

Anyone know a good site that dont scam?

mmomb tried to scam me out of 50$ but I just charged back

>stupid friend gets banned for posting a literal on-topic post
lmao

>>180314984
took me less than 12 hours to level two necros to 317 with the new players event+compensations and I have them both sitting at DP2 right now, leveling is a joke nowadays

>>180314969

I'm looking right at like 6 different reports on the forums with video and screenshot evidence that are over a month old and haven't been addressed.

>>180315105
Yes, it's literally retarded to click on enemies over and over for hours to scrape up a bit of silver. Anywhere else, you'd at least get something you could sell to the NPC for decent money or something you could craft or even potentially some decent equipment, but crafting in this game is retarded and the equipment still doesn't sell for that much. And you can kill enemies just by weighting down the auto attack key, it's not even interesting.

>>180315682
How do you define "decent money" because you can make 500-800k per hour in raw silver while also farming materials for the 2nd best weapons in the game.

>>180315456
>he doesn't scam the chinese websites

Do you even want free silver? I just let them deliver it then charge back. What the fuck are they going to do about it?

>>180316310
I can do that but first I have to find sites that actually deliver

Also I dont know how many times I can just chage back, I'm sure paypal will get to start suspicious if theres too many chargeback claims in close timeframe

>>180315075
>>180315486
To be fair, most new players wouldn't know what to do with that event at all. In-fact, a lot of those new people just follow the horribly outdated leveling guides because they're the only ones that show up on google.

Ironically the "new player" event was only really extremely profitable for people who knew how to abuse it.

>>180316621
I should start making youtube guides for the useful events IMC has. I could make hundreds of pennies!

>>180314817
>is just botting but because you're clicking on the game and not a program, it's some how okay
Stopped reading here. Suicide is your only option.

>>180316310

Now that I'm thinking about it, how the fuck do they ever make money if people can just do this?

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>Rocksodon eats cheap steaks
That's it i'm buying one

>>180316805
People are retarded. I have no fucking clue how they can claim to have morals while cheating in a video game. If you're going to be an asshole, might as well go the distance and steal as well.

>the only good wizard build for end game solmiki is chronomancer or kino 3 if you are a pvp retard

how do we fix this game, just because elememe is not a useless heavy bag to lift when they have a stage 8 rhs it doesn't mean the class is viable

>>180316805
Not everyone does it
Paypal chargebacks are a common thing to vendors in online sales though
Usually you have to calculate that about 5-10% of your sales will be chargebacked

Paypal is really fucking over vendors for that, there is lots of complaints about it too

>>180316954
>feeding your pet
What are you, retarded?

>>180314971
It's not a coincidence that all the successful MMOs require less clicking to collect loot than to kill whatever drops it. Diablo2 wasn't an MMO, but nobody bothered picking up all the trash on the ground. People just let money rot.

>>180317118
No, are you?
You know we have an event going on right that gives you good shit for your pet spending stamina

>>180317103

I guess my question is why not everyone does it. It's some shady "company" (usually not even, just some random guy - half the customer service skype accounts are clearly someone's personal) in China, the fuck are they gonna do.

>>180317056
Barely anyone even does Solmiki, everyone just acts like it's impossible to do without copying whatever group uploads a video of it first for some stupid reason. There's even Sorc's that do Solmiki.

>>180313331
I like playing monk, but ToS monks are trash compared to RO monks

>no snap
>no increase agi
>no warp portal (unless you waste a rank on diev)

RO collect system was shit unless you had a blacksmith using greed for the job, but we had @autoloot on privates

later they made a cash shop hat that enabled "greed" to be used for anyone wearing one, kek

and only retards played official servers past 2009 so...

>>180317261
Because most people aren't clever/asshole enough to do it
I bet even alot of people in this thread dont know that you can freely chargeback ANYTHING you buy online even after you get it

>>180317056
>the only good archer end game solmiki is falconer3
>you can't pvp because sage straight up removes archers from pvp

how do we fix this game? just because lol archers are dead and don't have a single viable build for anything, not even fucking farming kek

>the only good swordsman end game solmiki is doppel or some murmillo shinobi abomination if you are a pvp retard

how do we fix this game? just because fencer is not a useless heavy bag to lift when they have stage 10 black horn it doesn't mean the class is viable

>the only good cleric build for end game solmiki is cleric2 priest2 or cleric2 priest2 if you are a pvp retard

clerics best class confirmed

Also, you do realize that Wizard is THE MOST POPULAR CLASS by far. It literally takes the top 3 spots in popularity.

>>180317487

Yup, you sure can. It never happened to me, thankfully, but I know people from TCGs who've sent cards with tracking and video evidence and the guy who gets them just goes "nope, never got them" and paypal sides with them 100% of the time.

>>180317223
>spending 40m on a pet for an event that will last 2 more weeks at most
>saving the massive amount of maybe 100k silver on pet food

retard

>>180317056
The way to fix it is to get people to stop being retards who think a class that can carry a group isn't viable.

>>180315948
Decent money is an amount is decent relative to the amount you need to spend. Grinding 4 hours to put 1 point in an attribute is not decent money. (It's also a waste of time when you could have spent an hour running a dungeon and make 1 mil, and so make 4 mil in 4 hours with your characters.)

Grinding raw silver is a bot's job. You should be able to go kill shit, get loaded up with nice drops, go sell some to NPCs, put the rest on the market and pull a few hundreds of thousands from that. Why would you think "I'm going to spend 5 hours today grinding 500-800k an hour so I can buy that dress in 3-5 days?" You could just do real work and buy the fucking thing with real money converted into medals and then buy a real dress.

As for selling to the NPC for decent money, something like talt is decently priced. Most mats are not. Something like 50 gold on average would be decent, for those who didn't want to waste market slots listing them for 100. Equipment should go for much more than like 1-5kish each, considering it's general combination of uselessness and rarity.

Then there's the problem with this game's gold sinks. A hour or 2 spent trying to scrape together some money should at least let me open all the gem slots on my weapon.

The way this game is is so weird though. Other games, I'd do something like start the session off poor, make money during the session, then blow it on something. Here, I'm always hoarding it for the day I'll suddenly need 3 times what I have now. It makes people in this act cheap beyond what I've ever seen before. Even if you afk farm for a month and make 75mil, what is that? Not even 1/4th the amount you need for 1 high level attribute. It's like 1 +10 high end weapon before the anvil prices nerf.

>>180316742
>I play games to perform repetitive menial tasks all day for scraps instead of to have fun

>>180317487
Not many banks outside of NA offer chargebacks.
And constantly charging back will get you on your bank's shitlist. Merchants do have recourses against abusive chargebacks.

>>180317726
Oh thats what you mean, well carry on autismo
I was just kidding with the petfood cause I'll buy that pet anyways, plus the pets are like 25 mil or so now

>>180317690
What I think is the most hilarious, is that for the Chinese that get scammed out of silver to prove they delivered the silver, they would need help from IMC.

>>180317056

What're you even trying to say? If you're implying Solmiki needs a stage 8 red weapon to do as a dps you're retarded and haven't stepped foot in there before.

>>180317528

>sage remove archer from the game

lolno. falconer shits on sage, hunter shits on sage, fletcher's bleeding now acts as missile atk so they eat up missile hole very fast

you just can't delete a whole team with one cannonshot / out of screen with SR3

>>180317960
I'm just going to wait for them to release an actually attractive pet. It's kind of baffling that they haven't released a single decent looking pet yet.

>>180318136
Yeah its ugly as hell, but I like it
Its huge and I want that shit on my Lancer
I hope we get a Popolion pet someday though

>>180317189
In Diablo2, you didn't really need money because you could find good loot.

Also your statement is kind of meaningless. People leave drops on the ground that they don't care about even in ToS. ToS enemies also tend to not drop anything most of the time so it wouldn't even take that much clicking. It might be a hassle for the mobile game generation the pickup system was designed for but that hassle is the reason it would lower afk farming profits without botting.

>>180317782
Do you not understand how stupid you sound when you have to ignore what someone says and make up something different to "reply" to because you don't have an argument?

>>180318135
I was going to present a counterargument, and then I actually looked at the rankings.

>people that played a single match and lost are in the top 50
Holy shit how do people even care the tiniest bit about PvP in this shitheap?

>>180318531
>>180316742 sounds very stupid indeed, yes.

>>180318598
No?

>>180318446
ToS enemies drop silver almost all the time. The fact that people don't bother to walk over all their drops proves having to take action to collect them is a pain in the ass.

You know what else would lower AFK farming profits without botting? Shutting the whole game down. It's pointless to take measures that will hurt legitimate players more than AFK farming does. A 5 minute timeout on necro pets would solve the non-botting problem and wouldn't matter to anyone who isn't AFK farming.

>>180319232
>hurt legitimate players
OH GOD I HAVE TO MANUALLY PICK UP MY ITEMS WHAT A PAIN! Might as well drop mmorpgs altogether.

>A 5 minute timeout on necro pets would solve the non-botting problem and wouldn't matter to anyone who isn't AFK farming.
Yeah, raping an entire class to appeal to some people angry others make more money than them isn't hurting legitimate players at all.

Also AFK farming doesn't hurt anybody. Not even with your inflation boogeyman due to retards undercutting.

>>180319846

My dude, there's nothing wrong with resummoning your skellies every 5 minutes. It's the simplest fix ever.

>>180319846
>have to press a button every 5 minute
>HOLY FUCK YOU'RE RAPING ME!!!!!!!

>>180319924
>My dude, there's nothing wrong with resummoning your skellies every 5 minutes
I'm playing PoE right now and I can assure you it is pure cancer.

>>180320190
Yeah PoE is pure cancer.

>>180319846
Speaking of which

>people are bitching about inflation
>everything just crashed today
>12m item I had now only cost 6~8m
>Sissel are 8m now

Yep dead game.

>>180320190

I don't understand. Do you not use buffs either? You have to refresh those usually far more often than 5 minutes.

>>180319846
Bokors have to resummon zombies every few minutes or less, get over it fag

>>180319846
Most people drop games that do stupid shit like what you suggest and play better ones. What's your point?

>raping an entire class
>Also AFK farming doesn't hurt anybody.
There's your point, you're one of those necrofarmers who doesn't play the game, doesn't want to play the game, and just wants to fuck over the entire playerbase. You want to ruin manual silver farming to remove competition.

>>180320615
Bokors are clerics and thus invincible with great buffs and damage. Mages are like 80% shit classes.

>>180320675

Literally what the fuck does that have to do with re-summoning skeletons? You press one button every five minutes. Have you been spoiled that much by afking?

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>>180320675
What the fuck

>>180320638
>Most people drop games that do stupid shit like what you suggest
Like what, RO?

Are there even any other mmos that auto collect money(that don't send all drops to your inventory)

>>180320746
Bokors are not Necros is the point. What they do has no bearing on what Necros should do and beyond that, you were whining about it like you have issue with it, so I pointing out some things others have issue with them for.

>>180320190
>>180320506
>Play Chaplain
>Have to rebuff once every 30 seconds, three times every minute, and twice every 3 minutes.

>have to resummon twice every 5 minutes
>YOU'RE RAPING THE CLASS

>>180320908
>Play Chaplain
Found your problem.

>>180319846
Fuck off sperg.

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Why do necromancers always attract the worst possible autists
Pet classes are cancer in general, it's basically "I want the game to play itself"

>>180321518
Because they're never implemented correctly.

>>180321590
Let's hear your ideas besides "army of skellies that do everything while I watch"

>>180321792
How else would you describe a necromancer, exactly?

>>180321792
Having to control your skeletals would be nice and would kill normal afk farming

>>180321792
>he thinks it's possible to correctly implement a necromancer as a player character in a MMORPG
lol

>>180322180
I don't want to control them though, I just summon them ok.

>>180322134
I said it before, cancer.

Succubus class when? Oh, wait, that's Alch

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>>180322180
>RTSing your army with no auto attacks
It could work.

>>180321518
I've noticed in most games the top classes to attract "that guy" are:

1. Necromancer
Wants to be a one man army but without any of the actual disadvantages that that would mechanically need to bring to be balanced.

2: Paladin
Wants to be a warrior but better in pretty much every way with a holy theme and self heals.

3. Monk
Like above, wants to be a superior warrior that doesn't need to use any weapons or armor. Attracts anime autists.

What I don't get is why people hear "necromancer" and immediately assume they must control an army of undead.
In every fantasy source the only necromancers capable of raising and controlling armies are god-tier bullshit levels of powerful, which is why they're fucking NPCs. Asking to be like them is asking why can't we play as Demon Lords or the Goddesses.

>>180322180
>>180322641

Yeah I want something like Beastmaster in dota but with skeletons

>>180323179
I think a lot of people want something like the Diablo 2 Necromancer but ARPGs are balanced completely differently from other games; if we had Necromancer like how it is in that game then every other class would be throwing out screen wide nukes, MMOs just aren't balanced like that.

>>180323179
Uhm, I want to be the Lich King.

can you extract practonium from a weapon?

>>180324425
can you extract silver from an enhancement level?

some of you are alright
don't go to klai fed1 today

>>180324469
ah thanks! i will wait for another pract to drop from my box then craft the better version of the weapon

>>180324586
>implying I even log into this game other than to open pract boxes

>>180314971
They are. They either have a way around it that is REQUIRED (maplestory pets) or it's not a problem. In ARPGs like D2/PoE those things are ignored and you only loot big items mostly.

>>180316805
If they're not fucking retarded they make you 'donate' through paypal, which can't be chargebacked.

>>180324942
>BDO loot system
>just buy 20 pets and breed them into 4 tier 4 pets (if you're lucky)! it's only $200!

>>180325085
>>180324942
Why do people even bother playing modern MMORPGs? The genre should just die.

>>180323179
>Asking to be them is like asking why we can't play as demon lords
You beat the everloving shit out of multiple demon lords in the story so why not?

>>180325128
I just play WoW private servers mainly and check out FOTM MMOs, as sad as that is. I'm super hyped for the new BC private server coming out soon.

>>180325315
>why not
Because having an army do everything for you is not a good palyer experience. Beating a guy controlling an army is.

>>180325315
Call me when you solo field rexipher.

>>180325479
It's not like that's difficult, it would just take fucking ages.

>>180325580
I'm talking about the current rexipher we have in korea, not that outdated thing you're thinking about

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We have some slots left! If you're playing on Silute, you're welcome to join us! :3

>>180325667
>now with MORE HP!

Ok so it's just more tedious?

>>180323646
Diablo 2 had enemies that could actually kill your skeletons alongside skeletons that could actually kill things.

Like shit, just give enemies turn undead or some big nova-like attack that could fuck up your skeletons. Like if you walked into an area and a bunch of enemies hit you with chain lightning but you had resistances while your skeletons got wrecked.

ToS just gives you 5 shitty skeletons and 5 shitty archer skeletons. They could give you, say, 15 shitty skeletons and no archers and just have them get destroyed in 10 hits.

>>180323179
What do necromancers even do besides that, and not d2 inspired. Use dark magic and curses?

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>>180325694

>>180325762
Just pay $15 and you can see the D3 Necro.

>>180325474
What about this? >>180322180
It's not really an army either, I do find it fun having a small band of skellies to assist you.

>"hurr you're not playing as yourself it's the skellies doing the work"
You have 5 other circles of wizard you went through, cast something.
There isn't anything wrong with having summons until it reaches the point where you don't have to do anything yourself.

>>180325904
You still have to move and dodge enemy attacks.

>>180325762
>What do necromancers even do besides that
https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Rules:Spells%20by%20School#toc_7

help my high3 squire3 is about to hit rank8 i didnt even think this far what should I pick

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>Install game
>Has a lot of comfy
>Enjoying it so far and /tosg/ is pretty nice too
>Barely get to play

I just want to shoot stuff with a crossbow and gun while on a mount going brrrrRRRAAAAPPP, but no

>>180326087
Why would you even go past Squire C3? Just stop there and make a real character.

>>180326219
Practo box

>>180326068
So remove the command skills from sorc, give them something else, and give necro fitting versions for skeltals
>Defend/attack x/protect me/whatever

>>180326087
Templar for teleport shenanigans

>>180326219
pract box
>>180326409
sadly i actually considered this

>>180326087
Murmillo or Shinobi.

>>180326625
Its really good for squire
Even for future uses, if you dont have a warp somewhere you can use your templar abilities to TP to someone in your guild

Where do I get the Pangle set

>R9 comes
>we still do ET/Solmiki/Saalus every day

kim needs to put it in the ground already, just cut your losses man

>>180327152
muh sunk costs

>>180327152
You're allowed to not like the game, just go away man
Bye

>>180327206
I don't really understand sunken cost. It still burnt 1400 hours of my life, and I'm thankful for that. If drugs were free I'd probably use those to get through life faster, but I can't really think of anything free that helps you get to death faster than MMOs.

How's no zombie Bokor3 PD2?

What're some memey PD2 builds I can make?

Necro really needs to be redone completely.

I don't know why they didn't have the Necro need to use different stances or something for his skeletons to behave differently, they also should totally be weaker than they are now as far as defense goes.

I just want a game where you have to power up skeletons with calcium over time to increase their DEF.

>>180325769

>tfw the other side of the wall is /tosg/

>>180327716
>no zombie Bokor3
That's 15 unspent skill points bokor3. If you go bokor3 you must blow up the zombies.

>>180328081
I wish this general was full of stupid BRs that at least play the game instead of guild drama americans

>>180325694
Will you guys carry me and give me things

>>180328129
I was just going to max Hexing for more magic damage.

they limited the number of zombies on the new buffed bokor but this means that damballa is...nerfed, no? I mean, the buffed zombies are limited to 8 regardless of the skill level

>>180328430
15 hexing, 15 effigy and then what? You still have 15 points more, that's what I'm talking about.

>>180328620
It's not, it's stronger than ever.

>be a necro
>get destroyed in 290 dungeon cause I'm still using a Rokas Robe + Alpra stuff
>buy a level 270 blue cloth set
>get them 3/4 2 slot with a decent potential

I can feel the difference of me not dying. Fuck the extra int and shit on those armor, at least I don't die now.

Do Hunter skills use your own stats or the pets' stats to calculate their damage?

>>180328645
Movement speed glyph and Mackendal.

>>180326082
>https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Rules:Spells%20by%20School#toc_7
So this is basically a necromancer? https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4244688ee.4565.152a4a55.15213445.5a859a.5a7585

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Join Orsha. It comfy and stuff. We good play and godbolids no. KLAI BAD! REDDIT and CANCER and TOXICxD

>>180326082
DND magic is OP as fuck

>>180328925
I will if you fund me

sometimes I wish to go back to my necro1/warlock1/sage build, too bad mr. kim nerfed dark theurge and gave a very low base mod to flesh cannon. I miss the evil laughter

>>180328925
Orsha? You mean that server that is gonna close soon?

>>180329060
Oh is that why even at level 15 I only kinda do a pitiful like 100k on full load? So much for a really cool skill.

>>180329029
OK YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND I GIVE YOU ITEMS
>>180329090
NO! ORSHA BUTTER AND LIVE! NO BAD TALT ORSHA YOU BAD

>>180328904
Not Oracle, death sentence is "Power Word: Kill" which is an enchantment spell. It would be Priest probably, skeletons are a really minor part of DnD Necromancy; it's mostly focused on prolonging your own life, resurrecting the dead, and attacking things with death and disease.

>>180329206
Yep, you also can't use Quick Cast with Necromancer skills even though you should be able to. Just shows how little they care.

>>180329282
Cleric fits too, cure and heal are basically infilct wounds.

>>180329346
QC is broken for all classes

>>180329206

Yeah, both DT and Flesh Cannon base mod are horrendous and the scaling per level is also terrible. Flesh cannon still okay since they didn't changed the number of hits, is a ranged attack, has aoe ratio and applies decay, but DT was guted to fixed 15 hits with a shitty mod

both classes used to be absurdly good at their c1 for pvp purposes. they are still okay but after the changes to the mods and etc, I went back to the cryo 3 build for my pvp kino.

>>180329014
MMORPGs are just nofun

>>180326082
>Wish — Wish is the mightiest spell a mortal creature can cast. By simply speaking aloud, you can alter the very foundations of reality in accord with your desires…

What in the fug? Blizzard please nerf magic.

How do I solo 290? I can kill the corridors and the boss, but the rooms fuck me up.

>>180329742
Whale

>>180329565
It's pretty difficult to allow actual creative things to happen in MMOs.

>>180329742

how's your build

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What is with the sketis gear?
Most of these feel like I'm fighting with a broken vase

>>180329854
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111222999.233a475a.315a657a8a95.1f41556a768691a1

>>180330061
Ah, so it's bad.

>>180330117
What's bad about it?

>>180330174
You skipped Barbarian for literally nothing.

>>180329346
Oh so my quick cast doesn't affect the skills? I thought they did. Odd

>>180329542
>decay
Funny you should say that. I Cannon a lot but I haven't put any attributes on my necro 3 cause they're all stupid expensive.

>>180330235
I'm equal with my friend who took barb, it's not as huge a power boost as people say it is in my opinion.

what's current meta for cryochrono besides snow rolling and frost pillar, ice blast?

>>180330354
>50% more damage on your skills
>100 crit rate

vs

>5 more levels of Gung Ho????
>5 levels of Pain Barrier??

>>180330467
Except it's not "50% more" damage. It's 50% increased reliant on slash defense of enemy.

Also I don't have enough hotbar slots on my controller to have taken barb.

>>180330584
>controller cuck

ahh ok, how's cod28?

>>180330467
Its 30% cuckboy

>>180330174
Swordcuck.

>>180330692
>hating on using a controller for an aprg
Whatever man, you don't know true comfy. I haven't played cod since modern warfare 2 when I was like 12.

>>180330816
You're a fucking kid then.

>>180330816
>arpg

fucking kek, where's the action in this game? it's almost as slow as FFXIV

>>180330864
mw2 came out 8 years ago.

>>180330874
Do you know what an arpg is?

>>180330991
Yeah, a fucking kid.

>>180331078
>calling 21 year old a kid
>whilst in a child's cartoon game general

>>180330991
ACTION RPG

this game should be called an IRPG, inactive RPG

>>180331127
You don't need to be that booty blasted, son. Adults don't mind these things.

>>180331180
I'm not booty blasted, just sort of silly calling someone who can vote/drink/drive a kid.

>>180331242
ok kid, get some life experience

>>180331242
Sad

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>>180331310
sure thing grandpa, enjoy your korean slot machine

>>180331242
Grow up.

>>180331512
I'm not the one insulting people's ages on a Zimbabwean throat singing forum.

>>180331616
Look how mad offended are you. This is what makes you a child.

I havent replied since posting my build, someone is having fun with you guys.

>>180331710
We're all having fun with eachother. If you weren't a faggot you'd join in.

>>180331687
>I'm not mad, you're mad!
nice projecting, grandpa

>>180331710
He's clearly a child.

>>180331789
I'm actually playing the game

>>180328620
It's a buff. Damballa places an orb that detonates any nearby zombie over its duration (~5s). If stacked on zombify, it can potentially explode 20+ times as long as zombies keep being replenished. The combo is being made easier to use as both zombify and damballa are getting their aoe range buffed a lot.

>>180331912
retard

>>180331972
>explode 20+ times
Huh, it works with broom and stone henge?

How fast the bleed from Evade Thrust attribute is? Is it slow as fuck or normal?

>>180332310
Is that the best you can do? I bet you're necro afk farming right now.

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How much could this sell for?

>>180333139
I played the game today already, I opened my 6 pract boxes and logged off, like I do every day.

Now I'm refreshing the thread between playing songs in my room with incense burning while it's raining outside. It's super fun and relaxing.

>>180333061
Not sure about henge but broom doesn't affect either zombify or damballa.

>>180333462
I wish it was raining here; it's 90F at 5am. In england.

>>180333312
About a single fuck off

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>>180333704
Tropical Storm Cindy

>>180333835
retard

>>180333923
your mother

>>180333923
It's worthless moron. HP is shit, element damage is shit, element resistance is the worst shit possible.

If your hat doesn't have physical attack, magic attack, AoE ratio, or movespeed, it's literally worthless.

>>180333997
retard

>>180330061

not bad honestly. the thing that bothers me is the lack of restrain. look, barb c1 is great and shit but sword 2 has it charms, and restrain is one of then... you can mitigate at least half of the monster attack by stunning they while you attack. fuck, you can even chainstun shit while you spin thanks to cyclone's very fast hits

sure the cooldown is big but it's nearly 50% uptime

there's also bash and shit, spam it more. consider a great upgrade and avoid using deed of valor in overkill situation. I mean, 290 mobs aren't that strong in terms of health pool so you don't really need deeds up all the time

consider also a gear upgrade and double potions. you can combo alchemist potion lv 15 + npc large potion since they have separate cooldowns

>>180334201
Thanks anon!

>>180334108
your mother

>>180330467

it's 50 cr and 25% only

>>180330692

controller is not a problem, you don't need shit like gung ho, concentrate and deeds of valor at your main skill set,

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>>180313079

(Lewd trigger warning)

Classes with the s-shortest skirts?

>>180335497
Most Archer classes, Kneeling Shot also lets you get a nice eyeful.

Peltasta, Corsair has a buttwindow.

I don't play Wizards or Clerics.

>>180335497
Necromancer
you control skeletons
nekkid no skirt skeletons

40 minutes. Thats how long it took for me to come up with a Team name that wasn't taken.

Like who the fuck takes Industry, or Repository. Every single noun I could come up with was taken.

>>180335497
cannon

>>180335896
Well, the game has been around for more than a year you know. Simple nouns aren't that creative.

>>180335896
Cum Repository
Sounds good enough to me

>>180336016
Dump was also taken. I tried.

>>180336070
>>180336016
I got Maidyn on a server I didn't want it on.

At least my dreams of being Meatsack Maidyn have finally come true, even if I won't play the character.

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Coffee is recruiting

>>180336292
cute womb tattoo, WHORE

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so the new rocksodon pet does it give like +100 HP or does it give % con?

>>180337350
It gives +50% to all stats.

>>180337445
I don't believe you.

>>180337350
+5 Block Rate, great for tanks :^)

>>180337350
Shouldn't that image be called "shitstains"?

>>180337350
It's like the penguin, but worse, both for bonus and stats
It's hamster tier of bad

>>180337697
depends, who is that threejane girl

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necropost, but i felt like googling my name so heres a half-assed reply
>>180307335
i found mine in market, i used to check market 3x a day everyday for like 9 months for collection mats
>>180337445
well shit, i was hoping it would make my melee attacks not desync and always miss
>>180337548
jokes on you, i have kirmeleech cards that will mitigate that (and they said i was autistic for hoarding cards for no reason)
>>180337697
(you)
>>180337818
i just wanna know what stats it gives, as in stats to me, not its own stats. my $50 hoglan founders pack hoglan gives no stats, and neither does my leaf penguin. but if this shitty cash grab ugly ass pet gives decent +HP then im interested since my only existence in life is stacking as much HP as possible to try and be immortal so youd all have to love me
>>180337838
some newfag

>>180338010
If you want to be Immortal, why not just be a Diev Druid?

>>180338010
>This companion increases the player's maximum HP & SP.
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/60017

Wait do the Orsha town scrolls not exist anymore?

>>180338010
you really need to get with times and update you're avatars, nothing impressive about this pic i buy this many cards a day at this point, spastic

>>180338264
They deleted the town.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1122288ff.354555.355a657a8a95.11223a41517a85
or
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112228eee.354555.355a657a8a95.1222354175.1a213143517e85a5b5

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>>180338280
i have like 3 characters filled with nothing but cards, and none of them are common. fuck off with your normie shit ive been here all summer
>>180338115
same reason i mained a squire3 for over 6 months, because its more fun to handicap yourself
>>180338213
i dont speak moon runes, i looked and i dont see any big bold text saying what stats it gives to me. increases my maximum HP by how much? and does it scale with con? that is the question

>>180338351
Both are shit, second is slightly less shit.

>>180338480
but you're already mentally handicapped (retard), isn't that enough?

>>180338480
Just buy that pet

>>180339180
jokes on you i was only pretending to be retarded
>>180339275
i uhh.... bought too many battle bracelets

>>180313079

So what's this game like? I've seen it mentioned sometimes, but I haven't really looked into it.

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>>180339437
youtube my vids

>>180339472
So it's an animu MMO with grenades everywhere?

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>>180339546
ya and its full of normies

>>180339437
Very cute, very complex.

>>180339617
>>180339665
Is it P2W, or can it be played at a decent level F2P?

Give me some hot opinions please
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31155daaa.4a

>>180339880
You can experience the entire game F2P, just a bit slower. The general minimum is getting the sub-like equivalent called a Token, which provides some extra benefits, notably more dungeon runs per day which helps a lot. It's in-game market tradable too so you don't have to spend real money, but it will take a bit to save up enough to buy one.

Most people can't stand playing without a Token but I've been around since early access with most of the time not using one, and I'm still well-off.

>>180340124
Alright. Cool. So it'll probably just be like playing through early Spiral Knights without buying any energy.

What kinds of classes are there? I might just have to download this game.

>>180340225
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner
Good luck.

>>180340225
https://treeofsavior.com/page/class/ranking.php
this lists all meta classes but you can deviate if you want to be a snowflake

>>180340225
just play around with the skill planner >>180340271
also, dont ever visit tosbase

>>180340225
Early Spiral Knights was fuckin worse man, at least you can play as much as you want to in ToS without having to wait for mist/CE.

Anyways, there are...too many classes, and you can take each one up to three times, unlocking more things each time, and you can mix and match.
https://treeofsavior.com/page/class/
Just find something you like aesthetically, find synergies with other classes, and go from there.

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>feri drop as rare as practo
KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM

anyway, if anyone wanna join us in telsiai. just hit me up with a pm or friend request <3

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fuck you bots i just want to do collections

>>180340271
>>180340410
How does this look?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2122aaa88.154555.1a3a5575.1f2a3341516a75.1a22364755

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Uhmmm, why wont Mr. Kim make hammies rideable for all classes?
It's all I ever wanted since the first time I stepped foot into the guild instance

>>180339353
You better sell those quick, they're outclassed by practo bracelets and R9 will probably have something new too.

>>180341093
Sorry to ruin your dreams but if you want to go for support build you might want something like this
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21333888e.15233551.2f3f41547585.1f21314c5a6175.1131415185
But if you want to stick with yours,
Reflect shield is a genuinely bad skill, it doesn't do much at all. You'd want more in firewall and flame ground. Swell is infinitely better than shrink due to doubling loot. And whenever I see stop used I feel griefed.

>>180341056
What're they even botting there for?

>>180338480
As far as I can tell it's flat 600 hp. Nothing special, main reason to use it is it's big so it doesn't look retarded when you're riding it and it eats the cheap food while having 2 of each equip slot.

>>180341551
I gassed my hammy yesterday to make a Wugushi.

>>180342272
I'd gas you.

Is this good? I never play fencer before, about to create one
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111122eee.3f4f5a85.2a3a7585.11243c4265718595a5b5

>>180342694
You need at least 3 points in Coquille for full uptime. Otherwise yeah this is pretty much meta and fine.

Don't think you need 10 in Crown, could put 5 into Moulinet instead, and its damage is doubled to Crown'd enemies. But I personally can't speak much one way or the other on that.

>>180342694
If you are STR, dump half of your concentrate points into Restrain, otherwise half of Gung Ho into it.

Take 9 points out of crown. Max moulinet. If you don't mind weapon switching some points into crossguard is good, taking them from cartar stroke.

>>180341595
I wanted to go for a buff mage, a sort of "I cast fist" type thing. I definately want to use Thaum and Chronomancer. Does this look better?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2113aa88e.1a243a5165.152535.1a22324a5165.1a254a55.1135455282

>>180343264
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2133a888e.15243551
If you go chrono then you have to go C3 for pass. It's just that good.

>>180343475
Alright. I'll keep this mage build in mind. Are any other classes good at self-buffing?

>>180342967
>>180343163
Fixed it, also I planned to mixed STR&Dex but how much Dex should I invest into? some said 200 but my friend suggested 100

>>180340225
Don't forget to make new friends and form a clique because there is no way you will get to the end game gear grind without one.

>>180343697
Cleric tree, they have far too many buffs.
https://treeofsavior.com/page/class/ranking.php

>>180343698
100 is basically bare minimum, but if you don't mind losing 200+ atk from 100 STR, then 200 DEX is pretty comfy.

>>180342272
you deleted a useless retard to make another useless retard

good for you!

>>180343698
180-200 DEX is like the attack speed modifier softcap, beyond that your attacks won't get much faster without chrono quicken

>>180343789
I like the collection of bastardized spiritual practices used. Is kabbalist just a meme class, or are there good builds?

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Rate

>>180344323
No idea.

It's been a long time, how's the game? Any real changes besides "planned" re-rebalance since R8 dropped?

>>180344514
It looks fun.

https://treeofsavior.com/page/class/ranking.php puts it on builds 39, 64, and 96.

>>180344323
Kabalist is not that good anymore
Kaba2 is a giant pointless meme too

>>180344727
As long as it has cleric2 and priest 3 any cleric tree build is good.

>>180344763
That's a disappointment. What's the best cleric tree build for making my own stats as huge as possible?

Do you need to put more than 3 points in Circling as a Falconer?

>>180344939
priest3 + chaplain

>>180345146
You can put up to 6 points and be fine
You don't want more than 1 in hovering and can skip hanging shot.
Max everything else though

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>>180345146
This is my BirdMaster3
The 2 points are free points

>>180341648
bots have infested alot of orsha zones and the left side zones that nobody quests in(shaton areas and nuoridin areas). maybe they think nobody will find them? there are some areas that have a high spawn rate though.

Looking through other stuff, I have new question: Do the group buff things from Linker and Sage work on things summoned by Necromancer or Warlock?

>>180346054
haste works, not sure about quicken

>>180346054
no, but they can benefit from haste and quicken from chrono I believe

>>180334090
You forgot Crit Rate too.

>>180346506
>>180346512
Alright. Does the Double attribute for Micro Dimension apply to yourself as well, or just allies?

>>180346613
applies to allies installments too

>>180346659
But does it double your own? The description just mentions allies, but it would be weird for it to not affect your own summons.

>>180346759
it's amazing for yourself as a cryochrono. however the skill kinda sucks but I love the concept of this for sage I JUST WISH MORE SKILLS COULD BE CLONED

so what I like to do is clone my icetree a couple secs before it falls off and then I use pass; everyone should have hopefully gotten to blow their shit before then, yeah. but.. I think the skills it clones are only level 1. the cloned ice tree lasts for like 5 seconds? it copies icewall too but it only drops about 4-5 tiles (it's hard to see really) and that's due to the skills range (basically hits 5 walls if vertical and if it's in a box/rectangle there's about shards fucking everywhere

the place where the cloned skill goes also sometimes tards out? I've used it right on top of an ice tree and watched it spawn in some awkward ass place that isnt in the pile of mobs currently being sucked in

is this game any good if im not really into MMOs?
>"just install it and try it out"
dont want to wait for a 10 GB download at 500 kb/s.

>>180345709
Hanging shot is pretty fun.

>>180347180
ToS follows a lot of traditional MMO aspects, what about it interests you otherwise?

>>180347041
That sounds pretty fun. How hard is it to respec if I want to try out different builds? There are a lot of things that sound interesting to try.

>>180347284
you have sorely missed right the fuck out of a recent reset event; daily resets for rank skill and stats. They'll bring it back someday for r9 I'm sure, but right now you're cucked. just watch videos or something for now or just jump in, pick one of these shitter builds https://treeofsavior.com/page/class/ranking.php and have fun desu.

be forewarned some builds are painful to solo with, others are not as bad. (cryochronosage is a support wiz build that pretty much is low on the damage scale but offers 1000% utility for example)

>>180347041
>>180346759
you can also duplicate inquisitor's wheels
duplicating fireballs used to be really good but now it's shit
you can duplicate diev's statues but not sure if they use your stats, I remember owls basically doing 1s

>>180347426
Are any of the following good for solo?

Cleric2, Priest3, Chaplain1, Kabbalah1, Inquisitor1

Wizard1, Cryo3, Sorcerer1, Necromancer3

Wizard3, Linker1, Sorcerer1, Necromancer3

Cleric2, Bokor1, Sadhu3, Plague2

>>180347841
fourth one is probably your best bet although I would not choose bokor for circle 3

>>180348139
>fourth
>Wizard3, Linker1, Sorcerer1, Necromancer3

lol he should just get rid of linker cause linker 1 sucks.

>>180347598
you ever seen an icewall + wheel?
now try them both duped
literally melts bosses

it does work on owl statues.. but I don't remember the damage it did. if the new fireball wasnt gutter trash it would have been just as face melting as wall + wheel


>>180347841
sadhu3 pd2 surprisingly does well in solo
anything with priest3 chap1 in its build is guaranteed to me is perfect but other people prefer miko/inquis. that being said if the first build was like chap miko tao or chap pd2 I'd rather those for soloing.
I think most solo classes are builds with archer or swordsman.. but this game to me is also not very fun to solo and those builds either dont get good til r6 or require handholding

>>180348468
fourth is Cleric2, Bokor1, Sadhu3, Plague2 learn to count

how good is sw3 double slash?

>>180350447
It's amazing, if you can leech/use bleedingit's even more AMAZING
Unironically one of the strongest skill in the whole Swordman class tree

>>180351067
I was thinking about making a templar so I can start guild events on my guild even when our leader isn't there (I believe that's possible?), would SW3 highlander3 templar2 be a good build? I want it to be decent for dailies

>>180351602
Never tried but yeah, any templat should be able to start events

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oh

http://tos.nexon.com/testserver/notice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=75
i wish sunhwapark would be back..

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cute!

>>180352959
Yeah, I miss Sunhwapark. Now I'll never know when they fix Wugushi until it hits us.

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cute indeed

>>180353039
did they revamp the UI?

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>info at secondary phys attack, aoe attack, aoe def
nice too

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the 3rd symbol from right at bottom bar and F10

>no more typing /indun
about time, took only 7+1 years

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>ingame event window but its ..all white

>fishing

Patch notes make fishing seem pretty pointless. Something about catching a golden fish giving you EXP, and you can only catch 10 fish a day?

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>>180353168
some of it
pic from patchnotes
>monster hp bar, player hp,sp, some buttom
>>180353340

monster

2. Increase magic defense buffs are changed as follows.
Magic Defense 4 times increase
Physical Defense Set to 1/2 of self defense

RIP wizards

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right click rod
put worm in

>fire under water

>>180353535
i think that gold fish is +exp% for whole server
probably low chance

>>180352959
Drop method
Items that were DPK drop method are changed to probability drop method.
- Each time you kill an individual monster, the item is dropped according to a certain probability.
- The probability drop method is calculated every time a monster dies, regardless of map, channel, or character.
Ex) When a monster drops items A and B (A drop rate 50%, B drop rate 10%)
Each time a monster is killed, the probability of A and B is calculated separately.
- A is dropped with a 50% chance.
- B is dropped with a 10% chance.
- Both A and B may be dropped or not all dropped.

UHMMMMMMMM?

>>180353662
Make sure to do the event! 25 silvery fish for a cute Butler/Maid outfit. There's a Blue and Red one.

>>180353669
This is Pandora's box, be ready for BRs complaining they killed something all day and didn't get a drop.

They added a fuckload of overheats to skills too.

Even some Elementalist skills got overheats.

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>>180353890
oh nice

https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/633035
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/633033
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/633031

>>180353890
Man, check out these pantsu
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/633031
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/633033
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/633035

>>180354154
>blue
>not shimapan
one job, IMC

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also some kinda of Coral Rod
from fishing i think

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blue

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red

I have a Korean Nexon account, and it's kind of making me want to play kToS. They get so many better events.

black > red > blue
prove me wrong
you can't

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EQ has 3OC and shoulders weird with new costumes

>>180351602

I would roll Sword 3 -> Hl 2 -> barb 1.

Barb 1 25% extra slash dmage + 50 crit rate is will be more beneficial to all your slash skills and the templar mortal slash!

But HL 3 is also okay, specially for the outfit