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Previous >>180087329

>A lot of info and details about re-balance stuff
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/ktest-ktos-class-rework-thread-important-info-in-1st-post/354628


>HG 315 Purple Weapons X Practonium Purple Weapons
https://pastebin.com/78mTQn1Y

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=3&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1026

>Current events:
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=33&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1018
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1019
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=994

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Addon Manager (includes jTOS and iTOS addons)
https://github.com/JTosAddon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager/releases


>Database, skill planner and other stuff
https://tos.neet.tv/

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Hunting Grounds locations and gear spreadsheet (all in RNG cubes now. drop from all)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fP4G1JjL2pj6wMfpL_3o9pFWYIKpr3QnYgQ-XTfK21k/pubhtml#

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
cute (Merigolds and Majiene)

>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)

>Telsiai
Comfy (neshoi)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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what's a good doppel build these days?
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Stop choosing girl characters fucking faggots.
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>>180204407
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>>180204214
tiddies
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There is literally nothing wrong with sucking cocks
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>>180204407
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>>180204528
Yuri is disgusting
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>>180204407
Sometimes I let monsters kill my character and I imagine me finding my poor unconscious character out in the woods. I take her to somewhere safe, and let her rest, but I begin to become aware of how beautiful she is. At first I only do innocent things like sniff her hair or look up her skirt, but as she's out for longer and longer I begin to do more daring things like groping her breasts and kissing her. The I lift up her skirt and fuck her in the ass.
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>>180205020
>boys are not allowed
>he is still there
fucking criminal. get fucked
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>>180204407
I rather see a cute girl everytime i play
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>>180205161
>Sometimes I let monsters kill my character and I imagine me finding my poor unconscious character out in the woods. I take him to somewhere safe, and let him rest, but I begin to become aware of how beautiful he is. At first I only do innocent things like sniff his hair or look up his skirt, but as he's out for longer and longer I begin to do more daring things like groping his dick and kissing him. The I lift up his skirt and fuck him in the ass.

fixed that for you La***o
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>>180204407
Someone post the gay social interaction pasta
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>>180205161
>going for the pooper
>not going for the tang
Faggot
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>>180205524
>>180205480
I just get that sick pleasure from making someone taste their own shit off my dick after fucking them in the ass. It can be male or female. Just dominating another human being to that extent gives me a larger erection than if I was fuggin the sexiest supermodel on the planet.
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>>180205872
fuck off voxandra
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>ITT: ToS gay players
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>>180206102
How do you make it say something besides Anonymous when you post?
Why do you make it say something besides Anonymous when you post?
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Is glizardon gem worth anything or do I feed it to my other gems?
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>>180205872
cringe
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>>180206102
>>180206197
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hi all qwertoo here come 1v1 me in klaipedda you cant'not kill me for I am the strongest okay come or shut up ps. shout is my turg
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>>180206535
Moot said his favorite board was /jp/, which is a board culture revolving entirely around shitposting and ironic shitposting. Suck my cock dude.
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>>180206197
That's very simple, anon, but if you don't really know you should discover it by yourself
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>>180206735
He just said it to have people go shit up the place even more
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What level is this yonazolem raid?

Also
>Buressingu +5241
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>>180206787
>>180206102
fuck off dude
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>>180207046
'Kay, my lord
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>>180206535
>>180206735
>>180207046
Who the FUCK is moot anyways
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>>180207158
That is a moot point
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>>180207517
the terrible early access launch that prevented any form of progression for the first 4 days?
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>>180205161
>but as she's out for longer and longer I begin to do more daring things like groping her breasts and kissing her
How about checking her life signs and maybe some basic cpr first.
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>>180207517
Getting kicked out of PotD repeatedly and thus making no progress at all made me realize even AAA titles have shit design shat all over them.
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>180207517
die you fucking FFag
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How do we save the rune casters
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>>180207517

I know this is a bait post and I'm sorry in advance for giving this fag who failed to falseflag a (You) but I'm honestly curious what people see in this game. To me it seems like a very well-shined turd. Even at max level it was not fun to play at all and does not differentiate itself very much, if at all from WoW (which is also crap).
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>>180207859
To be fair if XIV and WoW are very well-shined turds, TOS is just a turd. And people still claim it's fun, so go figure.
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>>180207679
>caring about the lives of others

fag
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Does TOS have a samurai class?
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>>180208009

To me, ToS is fun because of satisfying combat and a very large job system. The problem with those lies entirely in the design and what IMC has done with both its class system and how the combat realistically plays out.

There is nothing enjoyable about WoW to me. It feels like a soulless game made by business execs for the sole purpose of appealing to the lowest common denominator and making money.
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>>180207859
I wish I had fun playing games. I haven't been able to enjoy anything for years. Having a goal, even if it's one that I feel no satisfaction achieving, makes time pass quicker so I can get closer and closer to my death. I wish I could just get in a car accident or something.
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LOL
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>>180207838
Much like other one-circle wonders, it should amplify the base aspect of a wide range of skills. It does this with Ice only at the moment. Reduced cooldowns and cast times across the board would be nice, too.

Right now it can only partly claim that with Rune of Giants and Rune of Ice.

Maybe change it so the different Runes will amplify different Wizard classes at an opportunity cost, with essential attributes requiring a higher skill investment.
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Is this game worth downloading and playing now?
I enjoyed RO immensely.
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>>180207838
Start with making giant rune not an active hindrance to yourself and the team.
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>>180208239
That's just sad
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>>180208321
>she doesn't play Thaum3 RC to become the BIGGEST
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>>180204528
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>180209005
>>180207701
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>>180209005
>rejected from a containment general on a containment board offshoot of a containment board
must feel bad, sorry dude(female(male))
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>>180207838
Rune of Ice 100% uptime
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is chaplain really the best build for c2-p3 support slut?
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>>180207838
Make it not stupidly easy to hit the defense cap and let people cast whatever they want while giant.
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>>180208151
It probably will sooner or later, but not yet
There's shinobi, miko, even fucking taoists
And a few weeb type swords early on
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Imagine being soo buttdevastated that you continue spamming a general of a game you stopped playing months ago because not even the cesspool that is /ffxiv/ likes you
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>>180209635
Chaplain is if you want to invest in the character as a support/dps hybrid. If you want to full support you generally want to do a build that incorporates Miko and Taoist.
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>>180209398
Surely the invisible hand of the meme market will make 4chan a better place
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>>180209769
>Migo

FUCK OFF. FUCK OFF AND DIE WEEB.
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>>180209943
t. Small dick kannushit
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>>180207838
Nerf rune of giants a bit and make all skills of all classes usable with it.
Nerf rune of ice and make it apply to all ice damage, plus make it give the party ice property attack scaling with your INT.
Increase the two damage runes' damage. Like seriously, frost cloud is the same rank and it does 5886% damage with 45 sec cooldown. Rune of justice is 2660% with 6 second cast time and a terrible hitbox.
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>>180185692
miko here, so many regrets
Only rank reset will save dumb me
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>>180210023
I'm just tired of you fucking faggots shoving that shit class in every single build because "xd itz just liek muh japneaze vidya gaems!!!!!"
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Does this game have a fun community, or does it make you feel lonely like BDO?
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>>180210274
Get help
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>>180210274
>>180210023
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Rain is lame

>Electrocute
40.3k

>with Rain
43.1k

>with Freeze but no Cryomancer:FreezeSpeciality
109k

>with Rain and Freeze but no Cryomancer:FreezeSpeciality
116k

>with Freeze and Cryomancer:FreezeSpeciality
119k

>with Rain and Freeze and Cryomancer:FreezeSpeciality
127k

http://imgur.com/a/Yz6VY

used Cryo for Freezing because i cant use my Hail
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>180210476
Why would i stop playing a shit game to play an even shittier game?
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>>180208336
Should I just skip it?
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>>180210665
>>180208336
Game is shit but fun
Its no or barley RO tho. is free.. try for yourself?
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>>180210665
Its okay
But dont join ANY tosg guilds on Klaipedia
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Any good swordsman build? One for each kind of weapon(spear, sword...), I need it for a friend, he is new and I dont play swordies.
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>>180210665
Also, don't play on fedimian, is a 100% dead server amd you won't be able do dungeons at all
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>>180210585
try with stormcalling too
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>>180210585
>cnl
fuck off
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>>180211083
Problem?

>>180211030
Hmm maybe soon
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>>180208336
>>180210665
You have to work pretty hard to find the fun but it's livable

I highly recommend making some friends and reading up on guides, just to help optimize your experience or go on questing tours.
Take your time with the game and don't sweat the endgame rush.
Pick your classes carefully.
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How many points in Base Camp?
How many points in Food Table?
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>>180210839
Join a /tosg/ guild on Orsha instead!
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>>180211472
All of them
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>>180211472
5/10
10/10
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>>180210665
Play on a serve near you. Join whatever guild you want.
Ignore any shitposters about Guilds or Servers.

>>180211472
Max both.
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>>180207838
Runes need to feel more useful instead of gimmicks that nobody enjoys
Rune of giants needs to let you cast anything while it's in effect for starters and have some better benefits from the effect, possibly AoE attack bonus or something.
>Rune of ice changed to rune of elements, with attributes to specify which element it turns into when cast
>When cast the rune is a deployment spell that gives the buff for the duration in the area, acts like enchant fire and rune of ice, but for the chosen element in order to benefit the whole party.
>Rune of protection is a partywide buff that prevents knockback and lowers damage taken, allowing you to reduce it past the defense cap
>I have no idea how to fix destruction/justice could be removed and replaced with something else
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>>180211472
Maxed or bust.
1 BC if you're just taking it for free warps.
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>>180211680
Yeah but it won't last long enough with only 1 point.
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>>180212153
Wrong

Nice try fakeKzb
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>>180211651
>rune of justice
>casts a buff on the whole party
>it's like r7x but when activated fires a laser in the enemy's direction hitting everyone in the way
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>>180212153
fuck off katz
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>>180207838
More skills. Same for other hidden classes. 1 circle is shit so at least let them be equivalent to a 2 circle class.
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>>180211818
The warp stays even without the camp
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How do people get 2,5k+ blessing?
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>>180212410
Nice game. This is the kind of retarded little things which can completely fuck up one's build.
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>>180212671
>can completely fuck up one's build.
>squire
Anon please
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>>180212508
p2w SPR braceletes
full SPR gear
full spr sadhu's transmit prana with spr atribute
divine might
monster gem
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>>180212671
Hahhahaahah wouldn't want my fucking squire to be shit at farming!
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>>180213318
>>180213569
SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>180213364
I don't see p2w bracelets on the people doing shops in towns.
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>>180213923
That means they can buff even harder if they try.
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>>180207838
Giants no longer restricts spells.
>Rune of Destruction
No longer a damaging spell, rather a buff that increases AoE ATK Ratio and AoE of the party.
>Justice
No longer a damaging spell, turns your autos into a line of light that deal holy damage to everyone in the way. Bonus damage to cursed enemies.
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>Shield Bash Stat Issue Fixed
>- Being attacked with the Shield Bash skill will no longer alter your character's stats as intended.
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>>180214180
RIP op blessings
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>>180214340
The phrasing is so confusing. So how will it work now?
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>>180211030
>>180210585
>with Rain and Freeze and Cryomancer:FreezeSpeciality
>127k
131k with that and Stromcalling

lame
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>>180215174
>Majiene
>Cannelle
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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@180215243
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>>180215174
How to rebind hotkeys?
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it seems that those mods are just addtives while cryo's and electrocute's really multiplicate

another one that you can test is Joint Penalty, but you'll find that is mostly the same. I played almost a week with this meme build of wiz 3 ele 3 linker cryo 1, it's cool if you have JP gem

while you may call rain or storm/jp bad, they are a easy boost without relying on rng freeze, ruining you build with cryo 1 or on CC immune shit like bosses
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>>180215401
SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\TreeOfSavior\release
hotkey_mousemode_user.xml

or ingame at "Settings" and "Key Settings" button
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>>180215516
well yes, i was about to only test
>Hail_Freeze + Rain +Electrocute
but had to bring a Cryo for Freezeing mobs

the Freeze does a lot, but all other only add little
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>>180215174
It's probably spreading that damage increase across the 5 hits, which sucks AIDS.
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>>180215546
Thank (You).
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>4 cubes
>2 mithril
>0 pract

I want to die. By the time I get any fucking practs it's going to be worthless.
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>>180216375

I'm reaching the point that I'll probably finish the farm of all my dpk mats before the second practonium, kek.
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>>180216375
>3 cubes
>1 mithril
>0 pract

got 1 pract a few days ago tho, but gave it back to someone because he borrow me one

>>180216530
dpk mats can be fast tho. only couple of (long) days
while some people open box for weeks/months
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>>180216530
>>180216375
I log on each day just to roll for pract. I haven't actually played the game in a week. I don't even know what I'll do when I get the pract.
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>>180216530

I'm going to be opening 8 a day by the end of the week and my jew senses tell me not to just give up and make them saalus alts because even if practs go to 15mil or 10mil it's still the best silver for the time investment.
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How do I become a silver supplier like Jace?
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just +16 it dude
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>>180216763
>>180216792
>>180216817

My archer's box took 4 months. 4 fucking months, thanks to god my main was a fencer and venier was enough to compete with oranges up to stage 5 or so, so I made a aufgowler for her with the spare pract I had (that took nearly a month to get)

if that archer was my only character, I would have dropped the game by the third month
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>>180217892

Yeah, it really sucks. I understand why it's like this but god does it feel shit and make me wish they took the time to figure out a better solution.
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only now I realzied that they nerfed restrain a lot since renewal

the -hp is 10 times what it used to be
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Ok, so i tried this game blind, having played RO before, and i'm completely clueless about how to progress. I'm an archer, want to become a Rogue. Wat do?
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>>180218438
Get to class level 15 and choose an advancement.
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>>180218438
Defeat monsters and get levelups! Many!
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>>180218438
Fight stuff and level yourself until you reach rank 5 to get rogue as an option
Be warned, it's not a great class to max
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>>180218578
>>180218605
I'm already lvl 15, green bar is capped. How do i choose things
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>>180218737
bottom bar
Help
Advancement
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>>180218737
There is literally a gigantic advancement button on your UI to the right, are you blind? Pick a class and press backspace to get TP'd to the class master.
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>>180218737
The big button on the right side of the screen that says advancement
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>>180218438
Plan your build with tos.neet.tv

Rogues love stabbing loves crits, get Archer 2 at least to have Swift Step's crit attribute. Because stabbing needs a dagger, classes/skills that require 2H weapons are out, look it up in the pastebin.
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>>180218838
>>180218821
>>180218840
I spent around 40 minutes talking to NPCs so they could give a quest to advance to the next Class, thanks.
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>>180218970
Press f10 and read through the help, incase you skipped the tutorial area and have no idea what you're doing
And use what >>180218937 said and plan your character before you work on it further, it will really make a difference to think about it before you commit to it.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner
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Reminder: you're all lindas
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>>180219178
T-tu tambien...
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>>180218937
Did I already fucked up? Is there a Skill reset?
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>>180219367

ya you fucked up
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>>180219178
Learn with us monkeys:
Gostosa!
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>>180219367
There's skill resets you pay for, but it's not really important considering you just started and can reach that exact point in under 30 minutes easy
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>>180219367
You're fine, take Archer 2 and plan out from there
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>>180219178
>>180219263
>>180219451
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
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>>180210951
pls respond
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>tfw encounter my first gold mob as a Thaum
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>>180219821
Top 5 in kr 2 weeks ago
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>>180210951
>>180219821
2h sword: highlander 3 barb 1 doppel 3
1h spear: pelt1 hop1 rodel3 shinobi murm
the rest: all shit
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>>180220079
>Trusting a namefag
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>>180220167
yeah, you shouldn't, i'm pretty new to the game
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>>180220228
>>>/r/treeofsavior
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i can't decide what to do with my c2-p3 f/s for r6

should i just go miko now and then c3 or kriv or someshit at r7 (tao r8)?
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>>180220342
If you're priest3 why not chaplain?
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>>180220079
>>180210951
http://tos.nexon.com/rank/characterrank.aspx
>giving shit about korean rankings
there is https://treeofsavior.com/page/class/ranking.php
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>>180220559
>>180219821
>>180220079

http://metatos.com/
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Disregard that, I suck cocks
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>>180220446
capella seems to be too expensive to be worth anything

other skills are meh, idk
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>>180220738
Capella doesn't work
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>>180220689
But only dickgirl cocks
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im experimenting with sapper3 fletcher3
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>>180220803
Yeah it does, the way it works is just counter intuitive; you only get the buffs when you enter the circle, they aren't maintained while standing in it.
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>>180220836
Meaty veiny masculine girl cocks
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>>180221081
Feminine benis
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Downloading the game right now. What's best class if I want to be a gunner?
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>>180221436
Swarze Reiter or however the fuck you spell it is the best gun class. Musket is an option but it's kinda meh, Corsair uses a gun in the offhand and is on swordsman tree.
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>>180221436
Pistol or rifle?
You have the options of schwarzer reiter, corsair, and musketeer.
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What about cannons?
... Anyone?
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>>180221823
Cannons aren't guns but ok
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>>180221561
I was thinking of schwarzer reiter since it doesn't seem to be the type of class you see in mmos
>>180221621
I like pistol the best.
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>>180221436
>>180221621
>>180221561
Guys! Guys!
How about THE BIGGEST GUN?
Cannon
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>>180221937
Corsair and Schwarzer are the only ones that get pistols, if you like schwarzer you'll need a pet for a mount.
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>>180220079
>none of my builds are on there

thank god, they'd revoke my snowflake status.
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>>180222118
>biggest gun
>not even a 2h weapon

ok kid
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>someone actually transcended a dagger

i'm done
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>>180222507
What's the matter? You poor? Can't afford to drop 50m on a joke?
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>>180221937
go archer 2 ranger 3 SR3 or archer 2 ranger 2 appraiser SR3 if you don't mind doing a quest that will be a pain in the ass
SR3 is basically going around with a gun shooting while riding, it's pretty fun but it ends up boiling down to holding C and doesn't use many skills, marching fire and retreat fire are fun to use though
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>>180222395
Your pencil girth musket can't even satisfy 10% of my cannon's gaping orifice!
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>tfw still no dualwielding gunslinger class
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>>180223715
kys
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>>180223715
>Still no dualweilding crossbows class
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>>180223959
Go back to D3
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>>180224149
What the fuck is d3
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>>180224187
what's up with the surprise boxes, newfag?
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This game even have good PvP system?
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>>180224319
kek
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>>180224274
What's up with the attitude, retard?
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>>180223959
Templeshooter class is what you want.
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Shit, the full-support character I made to use all these multiply tokens leveled way faster than I thought it would.
What should I make to hand the rest off to?
A pelta3squire3? I could use a base camp.
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>>180224319
It's broken atm since renewal update. It's still on the block for re-balancing in the near future.
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Is this better than pelt2 rod3 shinobi murm?
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>>180224603
Sorc1 Alchemist to ERP sucking off all your guildies you support slut
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>>180224985
derp
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>>180224603
This >>180225120
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>>180225138
Shinobi is a x6 multiplier of a burst every 45? s cd. So NO.

Yours is tankier though.
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>>180225286
I got it from >>180220610
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>>180224603
something something something WL1 Enchanter
gimme cheap PoA scrolls
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>>180225120
>>180225212
Can confirm, had the best ERP with our local sorc
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>>180225354
It's probably a PvP meme build. You can get guardian to lvl 15 and Highguard to 10 with that build. Making you extremely tanky while having offensive capabilities due to rode murm and a fuck magic button.
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I hope they delete Murm's attributes, Pass, and Circling from the game.
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>>180225120
Already have an alch.
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>>180226102
Let me touch you inappropriately!
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>Look at costume
>It appears like it's made out of belts
When did this sort of fashion get popular?
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>>180226589
Early 90s.
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>>180226589
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>>180224454
this is delet
>>180211472
but this is not
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>>180226589
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>>180227012
I delet it myself. forgot to remove that bitchass nigga name
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>>180226532
[x] Touch booty
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>>180227495
I'm sure I could contribute some sticky white liquid that an Alchemist may need!
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>>180227495
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>>180227794
she probably needs more than you can deliver
and sticky white liquid out of black pipes is more valuable
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>>180227794
Give up, anon. Alchies are interested only in Vaidota's sticky white liquid.
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>>180228325
>>180227495
stop this
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>>180228325

No alch actually likes Vaidotas.
Except maybe those fags who got to skip the quests during the event.
Which is 99% of current Alchs.
Huh. Guess I proved myself wrong.
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>>180228450
No.

>>180228552
>No alch actually likes Vaidotas.
Course not. They only like his cock. Not a single alchie can resist Vaidota's cock. The cock always wins, anon.
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>>180228552
That quest wasn't hard at all for AgnyPyro
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>>180227495
tfw you want to join a guild that has an alch
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>>180229023
>cute, not hot
that is fine
my D is calm
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>>180229023
>chubby cheeks
>no breasts

ew
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>>180229301
>>180229325
dat gap tho
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Uhmmmm...
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>Gringo is censored in the chat
>Stuff like nigger isn't
What did they mean by this?
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>>180229821
>hun is censored
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>>180229817
Would fuck
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>>180229821
Because blacks wouldn't be able to play
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>>180229821
White power.
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>>180229886
But that's a cute cleric (male), anon.
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>>180229817
burn!
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>>180229956
yes, and?
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Why do I see more Barbs with Cleave 15 than Stomping Kick 15 when SK deals more damage, and gets buffed by your boots?
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>>180230049
Fuck you, Nazi!
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>>180229821
How many black npcs exist ingame anon?
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Ok, I'm gonna make a DoYouEvenEat Squire
Suggest a name!
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>>180230354
DoYouEvenEat
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>>180230354
Swazz
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>>180230354
Nigger
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Reminder that the Orsha meetup is taking place one hour before maintenance, at the Woods of the Linked Bridges, channel 1. Take the southwest split at the bridge at the center of the map, and you'll see the meetup point at the Kotatsu and Leviathan towers.
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>>180230496
Time to make an Orsha account
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>>180230354
JoetheTank
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>>180230496
>kissu
delet
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>>180230354
ChefBoyardee
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>>180230496
I should've leveled something on Orsha during the shitstorm for when Klai is down. I'm all out of compensation now though.
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>>180230354
Tuck Frump
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>>180230710
Nothing stopping you from coming to hang out with us. Meetup map is only one map out from Orsha.
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>>180230392
Brilliant.
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>>180230782
Yeah, but I accidentally made a team name on there and it's fucking stupid.
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No Klai meetup? 'Kay
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>>180231505
>2017
>klai meet ups

are you retarded?
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>>180211507
You and i both know Orsha dead AF
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>>180231505
I'm pretty sure all the Klai girls meet up every day in the same spot. You should join the clique and maybe I'll let you in on the spot, and maybe let you have some of the endless free Pract we get from raid.

HAH JUST KIDDING LOSER
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>>180231729
;-;
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What're some good things to do in game on a rainy day?
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>>180231729
>They get from the raid
wasn't CnL the only klai guild high enough to get practs?
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>>180220803
It works it's just shit, manual cast is better in every scenario you would use it in. Add in the cost which is a bit wild and it's essentially useless.
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>>180232070
Endless farming while listening to 2hu music.
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>>180232232
>>180231956
Shut up and donate more talt. 2000 a week or you're kicked.
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>>180232349
But i thought crimson died long ago...
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>>180224448
Yes, I want this. I also want QS3 revamp or something it would be good with.

Dual pistols similar to RO gunslinger would be neat but I'd prefer something with a lot of AoE with self as center

I also want better big gun class, and for Fletcher's arrows to be useful to non Fletchers.
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>>180232304
Mokou has my favorite song. She's also my favorite 2hu!
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>>180232070
Bully Necros
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>>180225467
Ignore this guy. Enchanter is shit in every way, even profit.
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>>180232232
Not anymore. And we dont get any recently.

>>180232349
What? How rude.
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>Download ToS
>Overall enjoy the music and art
>Working my way up to a gunner class

Also the best thing I got was comfy
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>>180232846
>Enchanter trying to prevent competition, keeping his profits high.
Time to make a WizScroll seller
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>>180233368
Wait until you see how detailed are the maps in this game.
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What do you guys do in this game?

I played it when it first came out, but I kinda stopped due to it being so "get to a new area and quest your way out the other end."
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>>180234551
I get to a new area and quest my way out the other end. Or I just sit in dungeon/mission queues.
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>>180234551
ERP with an alch
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>>180234551
it changed. now it is

have a lot expboosts and farm dungeons to max lvl
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>Be an alch
>Nobody ERPs with me

So this is what it's like... to not be a whore.
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>>180234924
That is what it's like to be useless
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>>180234924
>not being a turboslut
Why do you even play?
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>>180235798
I DON'T KNOW
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>>180235798
Aren't there better games to ERP on? BDO's character creator is top notch, you can create any fetishized abomination you can dream up. ToS has shit character customization.
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>>180235279

urge to drift RAISING
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>>180235279

You talk with yourself too much so you believe your echo chambo.

Your clique isn't worth mentioning.
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>>180236048
>clique
What does clique even mean at this point?
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>>180235945
BDO/FFXIV for degenerate ERP
ToS for cute vanilla ERP
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>>180236231
FFXIV's character creator sucks ass though. I don't even remember it having one when I played the free trial.
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>>180235279
How many are in your guild? I heard it was all CnL rapefugees? Screenshot your guild roster.
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>>180236231
>BDO for erp

and in ffxiv its on one server thats damn near impossible to get on

i fucking wish
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>>180235279
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When does this game get fun
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>>180237113
If you don't enjoy it by 100 or 200 levels you probably won't get very interested anon, not going to lie
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>>180237410
Maybe it was a mistake going for a build that put 3 circles into a boring class
I just feel like I've been doing the exact same things I was doing 20 hours ago
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>>180237536
That happens a lot, but rainbow builds are worse (plus not enough action skill keys for all of it)
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>>180237536
If you're running a build that relies on autoattack then I don't think it'll ever become very fun
Find something you enjoy with a good pace, there's a lot of classes to work with
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>>180237726
What would you say is a fun class to play for a beginner, then? I don't want to accidentally pick something that's expensive to fund, or something.
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>>180237824
Start with Archer or Swordsman, plan your build around the style that you think will suit you best
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>>180237824
Alchemist funnest class ever
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>>180238016
You'll have a lot of friends
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>>180237824
Just b urself.
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>>180238070
Yeah, if you don't kill yourself first.
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>>180237824
Fencer full skill combo mayhem.

Not the strongest, but still strong.
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>>180238126
Lmao
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>>180238070
No, that's Chronomancer
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>>180237824
Start with a swordie, they get most of the fun stuff, like doppelsoeldner
Some clerics are strong and fun as well, sadhu and PD are interesting without taking that much funding for attributes
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>me as sadhu 3 pd 2 with +6 viena mace
>random guy with wiz 3 ele 3 warlock 2 with a +11 viena staff <stage 3>
>mausoleum mission
>he lost all the #1 to my pd
>30% attributes

how is that even possible, is elememe this bad lmao
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>>180238196
How's Monk?
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>>180237824
Honestly, whatever aesthetic you enjoy the most is what will keep you interested at first. Like I love rapiers so I made a Fencer, and will always enjoy it because of which regardless of any changes.
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>>180238331
Monk is decent, it's infamous as fuck for having retarded players but if you do it right you can have fun and be helpful to the party.
You might not be on top of the damage but you might enjoy it, just please remember to heal, you're still a cleric
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>>180238307
his gear isn't that great, classes that require investment scale better, but Sadhu PD is fucking retarded damage with 0 gear.
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>>180238521
Oh, is it a high skill class? I might not try it then until I'm more familiar. Thanks for the info anyhow
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>>180238691
>Penguin David doesn't have a <3
>Penguin David is near another Penguin named Sex
Scandalous.
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>>180238738
It's not high skill, it's just that the players tend to be retarded and forget they still should care about the rest of their party
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>>180238738
It's "high skill" in that you need to figure out what you're doing, stat-wise and skill-wise. It's very different from most Cleric classes and also is not the physical DPS that shitters want it to be.
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>>180238691
>My wife's guild
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Is Schwarzer Reiter fun as it is to pronounce? Looks funny doing drive-bys on a mount.
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>>180238331
Monk is cool, just make sure your ping is high. And go Diev 2 because Treehuggers are for patricians
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>>180238730

are you sure about this? because well, it's all about % now, he had at least 4.5k matk while I had 3k or so, if we bot had 9k (vs massive hp sponges of 60kk hp or so) I don't think he could catch up with sadhu pd, my cooldowns are much lower, and the early rank skills are ridiculous good, plus, possession is stupidly strong if you consider the dps and the cooldown.; maybe with turbo chronosluts he could do better since gas and incineration can't be stacked while clouds, hails, PoA can but each pass mean another roll of cure and heal bombs

I don't know, this feel still feels so wrong, they kept the double heal bomb, and a decent mod for cure and also a multihit scaling per level while crippling all the early wizards skills too hard
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>go do falconer job quest
>2 channels
>channel 1 has somebody
>movie to channel 2
>get a rapid bangle recipe

I feel bad for the poor sap that has been trying to farm that bangle recipe.
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>>180239980
He could just be a complete moron. It wouldn't surprise me at all considering the difficulty of leveling now is so low that it might as well not even exist. I just have no clue how you can fuck up pressing Frost Cloud, Hail, and Mastema.
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>>180240123
It's not DPK
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Are the recipes for 3 star instance vouchers sold anywhere?
I checked the cities and the shops don't have any
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Normie newfriends fucked off to Goddess knows where, so it's just us tonight.

See you, Saviors.
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>>180240437
Not in iToS yet iirc.
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>>180240386

I'll consider this too, kek. Some players just can't manage cooldowns properly
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>>180240437
We're about 5 years behind kToS. We'll get there someday. Unless they get a change to an extremely popular class that makes it worthless, they'll give out resets to the kToS players, but only transfer the part where the gut everyone's class to iToS.
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How do I fix this fucking Sword3Hop2
http://imgur.com/a/P2Zk0

Just wanted something to level up on the side then farm dungeons with as an alt, but it looks liek it will cost a lot more than I was willing to put into it.
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>>180240438
AHAHAHAHAHAHA KEKS PLAYING ON FUCKING DEAD SERVER YOU DESERVE THIS STUPID NIGGERS
who the fuck puts orshacucks in OP when 90% of guild are normies?
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>>180241495
t. fedinigger
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>>180241495
Klai meetup doesn't even have 10 people today
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>>180241264
>Thrust 10

hahaha what the fuck
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>>180241619
So I should just delete himright?

Man I'm geting misinfo'd like fuck on swordsmen and it feels bad.

What should I build for a Catanigger? I really know fuckall I just wanna go fast so I guess Trot15.
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>>180240438
>>180241602
Today feels specially ded somehow
>>180241495
Don't bully orshafriends
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>>180241831
orsha should be gassed for all the goodbulds in missions
fuckers were only wasting my time back in r7
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>>180241783
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111777fh.3f4f5a85.112a3f445a65.15243541.15314455
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>>180242181
>tfw comfiest Orsha-only queues during Klaipeda's downtime
You realize Klai's the cancer server now?
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>>180242248
Full STR right?
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>>180242469
>Orsha-only queues
oh hey, now you can finally enter the dugneon with fellow orshans thanks to 2 to 4 queue feature
neat
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IDS HABBENING!
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>>180242640
yes
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Grape sighting
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>>180241831
Alive FP!
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>>180241831
what is healmage doing under that barrel?
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>>180243085
becoming my wife
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>>180242980
>ignores question about AFK farmers

LOL Because they can't do shit about them. They can put a rule to make them illegal like in RO but they are too incompetent to do that as well.
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>>180243196
The GMs could easily just put them on timeout, but then they'd have a real job and IMC would have to pay them.
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Is Orsha actually dead or is it just a meme?

I was foolish and put a retarded team name on Klai when the game came out. From what I'm seeing in the thread, I can still play with the people from Klai yes?
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>>180243196
>>180243296
It's an intended feature you autists
They have known that user complain about it for a long time and still have not bothered to put simple afk restrictions on summons in place
In fact its even easier to afk farm than before with spirit changes and summons are only getting buffed more
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>>180243341
Yes, but only in random matchmakings
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>>180243341
Dead Fedimian is a meme
Dead Orsha isn't
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>>180243341
Orsha is as dead as Milhouse is a meme

In instanced queues only, since those are cross-server within a region.
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>>180243341
Ex-Orshan here. It's not a meme, don't get fooled by them saying they server is alive. They do that only to make you play for few days with them and then they quit leaving you behind.
Whole server have maybe 200 players or even less.
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>>180243341
Orsha is literally 1/3 of Klais population and Klai itself is very so so in terms of being alive
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>>180243497
Lmao
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>>180243497
>>180243462
>>180243597

Well this doesn't seem too promising, I wish I could re-init my Klai, never even made any characters on it.

>>180243625
Is the game itself dead/dying or something?
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>>180243597
>play for few days with them and then they quit leaving you behind
Funny, that's what Klaipedophiles do to Orsha
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>>180243701
its not dying, its kinda dead but its fine for a niche game like this
Definitely playable to its potential
The server also cant handle being really alive anyways
I'd say its just right
>>
ITT: fediniggers falseflagging as orsha and klaipedo
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>>180243712
>Please make another starting zone, game is too linear
>Ok me and everyone else are going to ignore it because the other side is more efficient

It's like I'm actually playing RO.
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>>180243391
I'm not complaining. I got a c3 Necro I use for semi-afk farming while watching my shows.
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>>180243701
Can't you change your team name?
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>>180242980
>GM meetup asking about class balance back at R7
>I beg for Wugushi buffs
>Kim obliges and gives Wugushi some love
>renewal happens
>no more GM meetups
>Wugushi is dead

KIMMM SAVE MEEEE
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>>180243934
It costs money, but fuck it. I'll just pay for the 150 needed if I plan to stay a while.
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>>180243701
The game is active enough, just don't expect the all-hours nightlife.
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>>180243701
You can change team name
150 TP
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>>180244014
>giving money to Kim
I hope you don't do that
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>>180243391
It's only intended so that they can get around policing more intricate bots, most people won't bother with doing that if there's a class they can just level and bot with..
Angel Online(?) tried this as well, and they literally took what would be a normal looking bot program in another game and gave it to you, so the game was literally learning how to properly use it well and then walking away to play something else.

In the end it fails as long as it fucks with normal players, the largest issue is that either:
A)The bot is good enough where there's no point to play, so the game dies.
B)The bot isn't that good and people who care enough to just make their own better bots, and the ingame bot system means it's harder to report them and know what you're doing unless you are really skilled, and they will usually be ignored by GMs anyway.
C)Instance things so that bots don't interfere with normal users, however that means that instances have to be the best, which means you're not even playing an MMO anymore usually, you're just playing some D2-room-style game, with a worldmap you can walk to place to place to.

There's no solution for having to patrol against bots other than:
A)Make botting incredibly hard to setup, and update this extremely frequently (You will lose a large part of your population that bots, those people also pay quite often)
B)Invisible GM patrols, ban in waves every 3-4 months (Gets you the money from people starting again and thinking they are safe, the usual route taken)
C)Actually make it less useful to bot. There's a lot that could have been done here utilizing the 'idea' behind the DPK system, reports leading to DPK penalty, and GMs properly checking reports.

For example, you got a Necro farming Dina, AFK for hours. If he gets 5 reports his silver DPK might go from 1/2 to like 1/10, this will greatly impact them being on maps where they annoy the populace, and make it less profitable. The problem is obviously abuse as always.
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>>180243996
If IMC didn't scare off everyone during the Beta/Launch, it would probably be double that right now desu
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>>180244123
Not him
I will in 2 hours or so actually
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>>180243784
t. Orshanigger trying to justify his poor decision of picking wrong server
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>>180244332
Fuck of fedinigger im not even from there
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>>180244215
I won't deny they fucked themselves hard out of the gate.

>>180244204
Again, >GMs actually doing anything.

Plus unlike bots, Necrofarmers are real live human players, often supporting whales/guilds. At this point if they start getting penalized the playerbase will be gutted once again.
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>>180244282
FUCKING STOP DOING THIS
DON'T GIVE THEM MONEY
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>>180244471
AW shit that's literally me on all my alts :^)

I got like 2~3 achievements mostly hairs and that's it. I haven't done any actual side missions on them and I've been just grinding them on the daily dungeons.
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>>180244215
I played RO for years, wanted to enjoy TOS so much but no matter how much I followed, bug reported, etc during beta, I left when it was clear they not only didn't care but did that market limit shit I just knew that they wouldn't bother fixing shit, they would just hide it behind a pay wall or ignore it, and that pissed me off enough to just leave, because it was clear they didn't care.

The CMs were shit too probably still are, community managers ruin 90% of MMOs they are part of. Especially the ones that are yes men that clearly can't get shit done, or the 'GMs' that are literally the same thing, just event hosts.

>>180244471
Yea, they need to not nerf them just change the dynamic, forcing necros into the few good maps where the spawn is decent is where the biggest issue is at.
If there were more maps that had good spawns that would be one thing, but there isn't, so it forces the few good areas to be capitalized.

Their dynamic is just all wrong to have this kind of class be a thing.

They do this all the time though! 14 day trade limit + new player event, what a retarded thing, lift one (temporarily) if you do the other. Limit it in another way for the event.They just don't think about things before they spend their time doing it.
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>>180244834
>good spawn dynamics
Let's face it, MMOs are fucking hard to make and IMC is just a bunch of fuckwits trying to make a fast buck on the market.
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>>180244834
>Forcing necros into the few good maps where the spawn is decent is where the biggest issue is at

No, the biggest issue is people making silver for doing nothing in a game where silver is the single most important thing you can have. Making more maps viable to afk farm is the dumbest shit I've read.
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>>180233406
Have fun only selling Lv1 Enchant fire and JP for maybe 1k profit per scroll and very slow sales (Orsha)
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>>180245637
That is either such an amazing meme picture or a guy who is too lazy to make their own lazy afk farmer is just being really salty about people who are lazy as him but got off their asses and made something so they can laze around more. Problem is that picture also took time--time he could have invested in making an afk farming necro.

Weird priorities.
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>>180245797
hello newfriend
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>>180245440
Didn't say better, just more. They could easily punish necros by changing silver drops for necros that haven't X in Y time or such. People will just bot other ways if it's bad enough though, so it's a line they have to tread. Ignoring it is not going to work though.
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>>180245886
Hi.
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What are some other maps to afk other than dina bee? My laptop barely runs this game so I want leave a necro there and forget it without needing to walk around too much because of oracle/competition bullshit.
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>>180246234
Demon Prison 2nd District
You can also get a lot of Lv2 gems but you might lose them if Harpeia spawns on top of you
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>>180243996
The only thing i notice is how FFXIV is decaying day by day and how stable ToS playerbase is, am i missing something?
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>>180244204
Give silver a weight. It'll fix running dungeons solo for pure money too.
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>>180246593
brazilians
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>>180246341
Thanks, will check it later.
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>>180246593
I think Stormblood is happening. Apparently the new expansion is killing the servers. TOS looks stabilized because of all the new/returning players but if I zoom it out a bit...

Noticed this: BDO's launch peak is currently 21k, whereas TOS peaked at launch at 53k

I feel that TOS was playing very strongly to a certain nostalgic base, and unlike BDO it differentiated itself from all the other 3DHD action MMOs with robust character creation and dressup. IMC had a gem in its hands, but failed to polish it properly.
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>>180247403
That's fucking sad
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>>180247403
People just fell too hard for the RO meme. As long as this game isn't an RO private server with better graphics, it'd still have the same player base.
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>>180248015
It's almost as if you weren't here to see why people left.
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>>180247403
If Stormblood is killing FFXIV's servers, imagine how badly IMC was fucked on launch.

Of course, IMC didn't handle it well regardless.
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>>180248151
They left because huehuehue not RO. I was here since beta.
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>>180248434
It shows
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Anyone playing on Telsiai? all my friend ditched me to other game so I'm so lonely right now. Would be nice if someone accept newshit like me to their guild
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>>180249531
Read the OP
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Unimportant But Interesting: This is what you get when you try to interact with someone else's Out Of Body.
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>>180249531
Come join comfy! Just pm neshoi <3
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>>180250936
Can you use Telepathy on OOB images?
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>>180251492
No idea, I'll ask my Druid friend to try.
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>>180249826
>>180251346
Thx guys, I'll definitively join after the maintenance
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>blaming necros
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What I don't get is why gold farmers haven't picked up on Necrobotting yet
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>>180252152
Because active bot farming is better
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How many cubes you gonna buy today? I will buy 2 10+1
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>>180252519
Zero because there's nothing cute in them!
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>>180252634
But you can do P2C with Leticia
>get Lv10/Diamond/Anvil/Practonium/Rocksodon cage
>sell
>buy cute
Tbe actual cute gatcha has more trash for higher price, if you want cute you roll P2W cube but you go P2C
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>>180252519
None because I only started playing 4 days ago :(
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>>180253489
Post cute lowbie screencaps
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>UPDATE: MAINTENANCE HAS BEEN EXTENDED FOR 1 HOUR (UNTIL EDT 06:00)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qKg37sohc4
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Which would compliment QS3 Rogue3 better, Scout or SR?
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Help! I don't enjoy my other swordsman anymore because they don't have lvl15 Pain barrier. Having it active almost all the time is just so comfortable.
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>>180245440
Nobody wants to play this garbage game.
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rip 315 p2w recipes
https://tos.neet.tv/items/642529
https://tos.neet.tv/items/641812

Also, all this other stuff kToS has gotten but seems like they'll just rot in our files unused.
https://tos.neet.tv/items?order=udated&f=1
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Wasn't this shit supposed to be up 40 mins ago?
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>>180256698
Staff:Amy said yesterday we actually getting a different 315 recipes box
Korea got the open it and chose a recipe you want and it won't ask any mats but practonium
We get a open it and HOPE you get the recipe you want and you still have to farm your DPKs too
The question is: does the box contain purple recipes insides too :^)?
>>180256838
Extended
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>Still no Knight circle
I mean Lancer comes close but I want my Ragnarok Knight god fucking damn it.
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>still no Forest Fairy costume

WHY KIM?
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They didn't lie this time, the gacha cubes have normal orange recipes on them, game is not ruined yet.
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>>180241264
>Sw3hop2
What are you planning? Save it by making it a goon.
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You can't trade shards in jToS?
I guess IMC realised their fuckup.
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One month until Albion Online.
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⁀⊙﹏⁀ What's going on here
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>still no green lens
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>>180258473
I don't/didn't know shit about swordies, it's the one class I actively ignored because of how OP they were in beta, I finally got past it so I asked for some builds, and the first ones I got were Shinobi+Murm using Sword3/Hop3 as a starting line, looks like the investment will be too high. The others being Doppel3 and dragoon2, but none of those going through Hoplite, which now makes more sense because Hoplite is feeling super weak for me. Synchro in particular if I lag a bit seems to do very little, I'm basically relying on Spear Thrust and Double Slash to do damage right now in Siau/Dungeons. Using Cafri of course, and I got a few blue 1h spears from other dudes.

I'm gonna give it a few days and try making a Cataphract into Dragoon Lancer. Even if I don't like it too much I can go fast.
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>>180258473
>Save it by making it a goon.
Nice joke
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HABBENINGS

>29/06 ( the neck ) , the new content ' fishing ' is expected to take place this additional restructuring and other tasks

http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=754
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did we get any stealth changes? looking forward to the sorc buffs
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>>180263414
>new weapons "Fishing Rod"
>in all lvls and colors
>more attack on it = better chance to get more and better OP fish
just make a 315 orange rod +21 Stage10
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The gook rmter swiped himself a rocksodon already
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>>180263434
No summon scaling this patch.
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Are fencers still expensive?
Are they fun?

Need to focus on a main, all my chars are alts now. Wake me up.
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>>180264421
>Are fencers still expensive?
They are way more expensive than before since you actually need a weapon now.
>Are they fun?
Subjective but I have a ton of fun playing mine.

>Need to focus on a main
I'm not sure how good maining a Fencer would be, their lack of aoe really limit what content they can do.
They are still top tier at bossing though.
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>>180260393
is it gonna be f2p, p2p or sub based?
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>>180265401
It's pay to play with a sub. Just buy "premium" goy. It also looks really generic so I don't know why he's excited.
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>>180264537
>>180264421

yes and no, because hg weapons hold their own nicely, and if you consider that you needed a venier before and venier's cost was around 15m, fencer is cheaper now to reach a "okay" status with the advantage of the possibility of actually scaling

sp consumption is fucked up if you max attaque composee, I would suggest to a new player to keep it lv 5 and save skill points fror when you can just spam sp potion 24/7 without ruining your income

>fun

if you like combos, yes. it's like playing a piano
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>>180265401
I think it's free to play with a premium upgrade like ToS. Premium can be bought with gold (like TP) or silver (like silver).
Game's look like EVE online but in an Arthurian legend world.
I've already found people I played DAoC with 15+ years ago in the killboard.
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>>180260393

Just play Tibia
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>>180265593
holy shit no, this is the worst advice I've ever heard
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>unironically playing a crowdfunded game in 2017

Do you people just not learn? Have you not seen the last, say, fifty disasters?
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>>180265762
>playing MMOs ever
Literally every MMO has been a disaster.
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>>180260393
That game looks like absolute shit, I've followed it near the start and what they were trying felt like HnH mixed with Runescape, and it fell hard because of founders pack and crowdfunding.

Not one game that's done founders pack has lasted, yet so many of them do it, it's shit and their numbers never get high but they probalby survive on the few founders that are whales that enjoy playing with 10 other people in an 'MMO'.

Hell, even EQ:N failed because they tried to stretch founders pack for 2+ fucking years.
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>>180266142
Even ToS failed because of the founder's pack!

I'll try any MMO that's free though.
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>>180266217
Shit is like a disease, they all want to bleed every little bit they can from their games, and for some reason they think that the average consumer can't see through that. The only people still playing MMOs are fucking spreadsheet addicts and the little bit of fresh blood that's coming from youngins, and they have so many 'social' games these days that they will skip out on MMOs if they can.

I mean shit, the forums were even wild when they announced that shit, and generally speaking most of the smarter playerbase has learned by now that you always avoid official forums since these game companies are scumbags that will sometimes ban ingame for forum rule breaking, so these were the dregs and attentionwhores even complaining, while they were sucking that first Community Manager's dick even though he got literally nothing done.
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>>180266142
Who cares about founder packs. Just ignore them.

Also, what the FUCK is this?
http://cso2.nexon.co.jp
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>>180263414
God I'm excited for fishing. If only because it can literally be another endgame option of something to do, and isn't grinding or erping.

Surprised they postponed it due to server instability though.
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>>180266564
I fucking love fishing. I still play BDO every once and a while just to go fishing if it's raining or something in real life and I can't go out when I want.
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>>180266703
All MMOs sorely need alternatives to the gear grind, and I'm glad ToS is doing at least something about it already. Sets the way for similar things in the future too possibly.

And fishing is just always so chill and enjoyable because of which.
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>>180264537
I'm just looking for some class to invest hard, i have like 5~6 chars with rank8 lvl15 but don't know if i main one of them or just make some new fun shit to main.
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>>180267249
if you wanna invest hard go with a doppel
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What're some 2class combos that go really well together?
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>>180267364
Doppels are boring, i do have one. I want to invest hard on something fun, even if it's a shit class. I was thinking on investing in a Hunter, since was the class that i had the most fun.
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>>180267446
Chrononigger + Anything
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>>180267637
What about unconventional combos? Are there any classes that have cool interactions?
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>>180267553
doppels are fun now that they're not just spinbots
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>>180267553

If you ever want to do ET I'd suggest finding something you like with at least a modicum of AoE. All of my investment is in a two handed spear and I'm sad always having to supportcuck in Solmiki.
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>>180267798
As i said, i do have one and played post the end of the spin2win, still boring.
>>180267803
I just want go around killing shit, have fun and a nice dmg.
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>>180267904

then go on and b urself!
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>>180266484
That's exactly what you think it is.

You can't just ignore Founder's Packs often enough they have one or two bonuses that break any semblance of balance the game might have, and make it p2w before the game even starts.

If you introduce p2w after someone has been playing 6 months they have to choose between throwing away those 6months, or continuing to know they'll never come close to that p2w whale. If you introduce it before the game even starts, the choice is a nobrainer, and there isn't really an MMO that's good enough to be worth it.

https://albiononline.com/en/shop/founderspacks/compare Premium is 'faster game progression', the other stuff can be looted so it's not as bad as all games.
EQ:N's was pretty cancer, we'll never knowhow cancer.

https://playdauntless.com/news/dauntless-founders-packs - More mats per kill, setup to run straight into your first hunts without buying potions/etc,
Crowfall's is pretty bad (at least they had the sense not to call them founder's but just Bundles), Camelot Unchained's is pretty bad. Chronicles of Elyria is absolutely the fucking worst. I know that some idiots will make a general and unironically play it because it looked good but the p2w is way before day1 on this shit, a 3month head start is fucking HUGE and it's not on a wiped server or anything, I clarified it with a GM after they deleted my posts ont heir forums inquiring about it TWICE so I made a shit in their discord.

Honestly founder's packs still probably aren't as bad as all the faggots who "I played WoW" trying to migrate to other MMOs stinking shit up, because they're the first people to not give ANY fucks at all about founder's pack and al of that, they welcome it, they want to spend their money to start slightly better than others and get that edge, not realizing that it kills the MMO and leaves them without said people to have an edge over, killing the game quickly rather than slowly.
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>>180267803
No matter what you play you'll just be a supportcuck to a Doppel or Elememe. There's just no other classes that can compete with their consistent damage output
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>>180267764
Unfortunately, not nearly as many as you'd think, or nearly as cool. It comes down to the standard
1)Heals + Glass cannon
2)Glass cannon + CC
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>>180268029
ToS Founder's pack wasn't Pay2Win at all though.

Are there Pay2Win founders on other MMOs?
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>>180268108
also buff slut priest chaplain + auto attack class like QS or corsair go well
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>>180268112
It's hard to tell when 90% of founder's pack games are stillborn/vapourware
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>>180268108
>>180268151
Oh, I was hoping for something interesting like Wugushi + Plague Doctor, but I think Plague Doctor can only spread their own debuffs.
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>>180268371
pandemic does spread needle blow, I think
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>when your boy hoglan keeps giving multiplier vouchers

it's like he wants me to enjoy life again by doing only one run instead of 3 for silver farming
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is team exp based on your dumb bird? i wanna delete the fucker.
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>>180268415
I'll give you a needle to blow.
>>180268967
Yes, don't delete it unless you plan on leveling a character or another pet in its place.
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>>180268112
Founders became non-p2w because of the backlash and IMC's first self published MMO so they had didn't know how to handle it by stonewalling, which oddly enough saved the company as if they did stonewall they wouldn't have the few people they do have now.

>>180268371
It does spread other debuffs, as long as it's a debuff. It should spread it with it's current timer though I believe, so if for example the Wugu poison is 1s and refreshed when standing in it, it won't do anything. but let's say it's 15s once they stand in it, it would spread good. I only really use it on my PD to spread frozen status and then incinerate.

>>180268967
Total levels between characters AND pets, annoyingly enough pets are one of the fastest ways to raise team level

>>180268151
Ah yeah I should've said support instead of healer.
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>>180269606
>It should spread it with it's current timer though I believe
Oh, that really hurts with the Wugushi poison duration nerf.
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how much silver is rocksodon worth? i kinda want it
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>>180270435
wouldnt pay more than 20m
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>>180270435
It's worth your cunny, bend over slut.
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Guys new Falconer here and my question is what's the optimal STR/CON/DEX ratio? Like all str, 50~70 base con and like 100 base dex?
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>>180270970
Literally doesn't matter. Just press circling on cooldown.
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God, imagine if the pet event was permanent.

I've been hooked on instance multiply vouchers ever since compensation, help.
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>>180270820
T-that's lewd!
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>>180271061
those glasses look like shit
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>>180267637
what if i dont like blacks? are there white chronos?
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>>180271115
I'd walk into walls without them.
>>180270435
A friend got theirs for 15 million, and I'm picking one up for 10 million. So be patient! Orsha though
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>>180271035
So I'm basically a circling slut then ;_;

How did I go so low ;_;
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>>180271230
it all happened when you made an archer
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>>180270435
45m in Klai market
but only 1 of them, will be undercut to like 20ish
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look at this guy
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>>180271061
Those glasses are no good but I want to do things to your character's thighs.
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>>180271667
>63m mithril ore

hmmmmmmm
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>>180271165
Anon, you can only be white in this game. Not different shades of white either, just white.

>>180271230
You picked a starting class that only has 1-2 'great' choices at a time
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>>180271667
The Mithril is definitely going for RMT.
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maggi please...

and stop being a dyke
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>>180271696
>>180271115
Are they really that bad?
I was told my helmet was bad too.. So I hide it now.
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>>180271790
Well I just needed a functioning farming solo class while not playing my memegoon.
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>>180271667
>Black Horn recipes have been around 5-6m
>None on market before patch
>One at 25m now
People are hilarious.

There'll be a lot of whales using Rocksodon simply because it's a money symbol though.
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>>180271891
Stop avatarfagging. Purple hair looks stupid, glasses look stupid, horns look stupid. Your character isn't even cute.
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>>180271891
The glasses are fine, people are just salty because of how absurdly expensive it is.
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>>180271891
Speaking of OTL I'm still upset that it's not ACTUALLY OTL.
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>>180271932
fuck me, I paid 10 gems for the black meme recipe
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>>180272021
>3.5m
Anon plesae

and they look like shit
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>>180271891

would bang
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>>180271967
You're not a very pleasant person.
Two pictures hardly constitutes avatarfagging, relax friend.
.>>180272021
I got mine pretty cheap from a friend, probably helps I'm on a lower pop server..
>>180272190
Lewd!
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hipster glasses are the equivalent of glowing wings in other mmo's
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>>180272516
I agree 100%. They need to add an eyepatch though.
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>she does not glow in TOS

>>180272516
no
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Reminder that Slid-off Glasses are the cutest and better choice.
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Reminder than the vubbe goggles are the only patrician glasses.
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>leticia cube
>2% chance of an item worth 20mil~
>1% chance of a box with a 1% chance of orange recipe
>98% chance of getting trash items
Explain to me why this isn't gambling again?
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>>180272708
>grandma glasses

>>180272782
>brazilian cosmetics
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>>180273021
It is.
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>>180273021
literally who is arguing it isn't gambling?

it's no different from cases in csgo
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>>180273021
ET vouchers are good
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>>180273095
Well, I mean, gambling is heavily regulated in my country and this game is completely unregulated.
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>>180273021
It's not gambling because you don't win something with any value. At least if I go to a casino I can win back the $10 I lost last time.
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>>180273137
I have too many of those that are expiring or expired because I just don't want to fucking do et
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>>180273187
it's a game

i live in the US which has insanely stupid gambling regs compared to most countries. this stuff is totally off radar until it gets to some ponzi tier 3rd party site like the csgo skin betting shit.
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>>180273286
you can sell them for around 500k a pop which is decent
also find a team and just do it
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>>180273286
Yeah, I just deleted all of the ones I got from compensation because I have no desire to do ET.
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>>180272708
okay mrs claus
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>>180273405

My problem is I'm never going to sit down and do it more than twice a day.
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>>180273431
I actually have seen someone who wears them with white hair and the wizard christmas costume.
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>>180273571
JUST DO IT
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>>180273405
>You can sell them
They can expire, can't even be moved into team storage
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>>180273752
not the ones from p2w cubes
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>>180273021
Anyone arguing it's not gambling is a retard or a troll.

The only argument they ever have and it's a shitty one is that it's not gambling because nothing you win has value.
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>>180273865
I specified I have a lot that are expiring, not the cube shit
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>>180274096
just do it anon, make your solmiki dreams come true
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111144999.233f4c5f.1a293a71.1f4f5f

Thoughts?
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>>180274794
it's shit
highlander too good
doppel skills are restricted to 2h swords
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>>180274794
It's a waste to go doppel only for 3 skills.
It isn't spin2win anymore and punish doesn't need more than 1 point
Missing out on some really good skills to use a spear
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>>180274794

What the fuck are you doing?
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What skills do you take as shinobi other than clones and kunai?
Does mokuton work, and is katon useful with the attribute?
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Why are the servers still fucked? Fucking IMC
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Ok, Mr Kim gave us a event to practice anvil upograding and shit.

Did anyone find a pattern that helps or something to avoid? I feel that bloated inventories and lag fucks up the process pretty easily so it's better to avoid any lag/high ping and upgrade shit on a clear character

Could be bullshit but...
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>>180275664
>other than clones and kunai

those are the only useful skills weeb
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>>180275681
klaipeda is fine for me
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>>180275705
>be bullshit
pretty much this
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>>180275705

>could be bullshit

Son, this is Maplestory level of retard.
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>>180275705
superstitions are retarded, you really think IMC is smart enough to code something other than "% chance to fail"?
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>>180275705
I don't think that's the case, but I've seen others mention and noticed myself that whenever it fails, it lags for some reason. So you can know despair ahead of time if you lag when you hit the anvil.
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are tokens somehow worth 2.7m now or should i just wait till some whale drops them back to 1.7m?
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>>180275945
just wait
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>>180275756
How can I trust someone who hates the class in this way?
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>>180275705
If the second strike freezes, you're fucked
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>>180276001
I hate the class because it's so effective with no fucking effort or cost other than waiting for a flower to spawn for a couple of minutes. Also stupid niggers shove it in every single build now because they keep adding skills that clones can use when they never should have been able to use anything but Shinobi skills.
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Does this happen to any other SR player?
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>>180263414
>Fishing
>No idea what fish will be for yet
Would you guys be excited if squires could cook with this stuff?
I'd have fun going back and massacring kepas, then catching some nice fish and cooking it up together.
Then making a nice stall in town where I can sell fishy buffs
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>>180276470
>mfw i have no face
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>>180276578
I am truly anon
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>>180276470
Nah, I don't think any other one is enough of a faggot to post their character all the god damn time. You're literally the only SR nigger that posts their stupid ass character. Do you see anyone else doing it you stupid shitbag? You can tell just by looking at the thread that you're the only avatarposting fuckface. Just get a trip you pathetic fuck so I can filter your retarded ass.
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>>180276448
>Im angry at it because it isn't shit
wew
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>>180276652
Could you make a trip so I can filter your posts?
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>>180276673
EVERY BUILD SHOULD HAVE THE EXACT SAME CLASSES. PUT BARBARIAN C1 IN ALL YOUR BUILDS! DON'T FORGET TO PUT SHINOBI IN EVERY BUILD TOO!! DON'T MAKE A CHARACTER WITHOUT THESE!!!! IT'S REALLY FUN AND INTERESTING TO HAVE REQUIRED CIRCLES IN A GAME WHERE THE ONLY DECENT PART IS PLAYING WITH THE CLASS PLANNER.
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>>180276570
No info yet. Maybe in a few days.

But its IMC and game is all about gear, so maybe it will be something similar to >>180263991
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>>180276652
Dont be so rude, anon.
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>>180276767
Sure, you go first though, just wear it when you're avatarfagging, and I'll wear mine when I'm avatarfagging. If that bothers you for some retarded reason since you might as well already be tripfagging with your character that you post with every single post you make, you could just include the same word in all your image names so I can just filter that.
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>>180276789
?
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>>180276652
I've posted here 5 times in the past 2 months I've been played, so how upset you are is kind of surprising
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>>180277238
You've posted your characters more than 5 times in this thread you fucking mongoloid.
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IMC can't figure out how to stop necro farmers so they are just making fishing which will be more effective afking than Necro.
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hey guys i havent played in a while

how much spr should I give my archer
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>3 Multiply and 2 OneEntry today. 5 cockies
good pet
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>>180277706
>cockies

slut
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>>180277741
Oh no, geez
I mean cookies
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>>180277437
ALL OF IT
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>>180277437
sounds like bait

anyways: 0 SPR. only some clerics and a few wiz use that stat
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>that sage and enchanter loading screen

you can't outcute this
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>>180277706
>3 advanced gem abrasives, 5 cookies, a keistas potion, and something else i can't find
Remember to pet your pets and feed them every once in a while.

>>180277854
Too late, your inner slut has surfaced.
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Help! I'm overcome with a visceral rage with no clear target! How do I calm down!?
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>>180278213
Masturbate
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>>180278483
link full
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>>180278483
Yeah, I'll have to do it to some ShindoL or something.
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>>180279879
This art style bothers me but I can't understand why
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>>180279986
alch's legs
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So, what's the consensus on stat distribution for Monk? It seems like everyone tells me a different thing - some people say go full dex, some people say go a lot of dex, some dtr, some con, and others say full str, some dex, sone con.
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>>180279986
it's shit
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>>180279879
>niggers have to force themselves into everything

kek
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>>180279986
That black cats legs look fucking retarded.
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>>180279986
Gradient shading that doesn't follow how actual shadows should work well, and the outlines stand out a lot.
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>>180279986
it's the nigga
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Somebody needs to crash the daino scroll market on klai
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>>180280810
PoA too please
fuck that one guy selling them
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is there something more sad than a guy asking for people to join his party for the templar quest? if you are rolling a templar and don't even have a party of 4 friends waiting for this glorious moment...what's the point of making a guild

>inb4 mortal slash
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>>180280268
If you're looking at old builds you might be getting mixed results
Dex was changed to be shit for most builds and monk doesn't need it
Con is not nearly as important as it was before renewal, so you don't need much if at all
Int and spr won't do much good for you except your healing skills
Then you're left with str, which all of your monk attacks use
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>>180281001
I think it's hilarious. It makes me think they have some sort of autism where they think "I know! I'll lead a guild and then I'll have so many friends!!" and then they make a guild and no one joins because they're retarded. After a while they get depressed about having wasted time on something they always knew was hopeless because they were never really motivated to be guild leaders in the first place. All they wanted was some friends. As they lose consciousness from the gas in their escape bags, they can only think "If only... I had a single friend". Then their mother comes into the basement screaming about them finally moving out, only to discover a dead body covered in feces and urine. Her heart skips a beat, and she starts to cry. Not tears of sadness, but tears of regret and relief.
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>>180281046
Would a little bit of dex be fine, at least? I already put something like 60 points into it.
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>>180281556
It's not going to singlehandedly kill your build, roll str from there on and you'll be alright
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>>180281001
>>180281463
Or you know, they just want the whole Dilgele farm to themselves.
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>>180281652
Alright.
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>>180281783
Beat me to it
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reminder that scrolls works for physical attack characters and that enchanters are cute

go buy scrolls!
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Is thaum 2 enough as a filler for non ff2? Ingame I saw "thaum3 or bust", but I'm not convinced.
I want big hands and a character I won't regret.
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Been just doing story/side quests to level and it's really slowed down. I'm level 165-ish rank 5, but I'm hearing about people getting rank 8 in just a week or so. Is it better to just pop tomes and grind? What are some good grinding spots that aren't infested with afks? I only know of Dina Bee Farm and that shit's a cesspool of Sorcs.
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>>180281463
10/10, thanks for the laugh
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>>180282179
>fencer has to buy scrolls to deal AoE damage

fucking kek, is there anything more pathetic?
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>>180282269
It's better to pop tomes and grind, especially at your level since they never bothered to fix the questing gap in that range, and the 170 is easily one of the worst dungeons available next to the 110.

If you want to grind, check out Demon Prison 2nd District. It drops gems.
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>>180282179
>1.4k

undercut that faggot selling them already
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>>180282470
pop tomes and grind dungeons*
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>>180282269
to get r8 in a week or less you

get all xp buffs (8xtome, events) and many resets+multiply+clear and spam dungeons a lot

you can grind at 200+ and do dungs to lvl kinda fast (not worth under200)
dont have to quest
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>>180282349

this doppelcuck is out of control, that fencer was just displaying how the thing works to promote enchanter's sales
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>log in to do daily dungeons
>out of multiply tokens from compensation

Yeah nevermind. See you nerds when R9 hits!
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>>180282890
Get more from your pet.
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>>180283215
I'm not going to waste my time waiting for a chance of instance multiplies. I'll just go play a fun game, or drive nails through my dick.
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>>180283341

just feed him and go afk lol
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Alright you fags lets get some discussion going.
>You are now able to take any class in your branch after the basic class in any order
>Class quests are balanced around the rank you take them at
What's your new build?

>Hard mode: Kim forgot about hidden classes, they still have their rank requirements
>Fuck this mode: Chrono is accidentally deleted from the game
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>imc didn't give us the x2 practo only recipes in leticia's cube

way to pussy out, gooks. goddamn poorfag BRs on forums ruining it for people who actually have money.
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>>180284106
Haha what a fun and interesting post, have a bump ;) ayy lmao
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>>180284252

if you have money you can just whale the fuck out of the cubes and buy the whole weapon, retard
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>>180284252
Maybe they're saving the good recipes for Letit Cube 3.0 :^)
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/900-tp-and-not-companion/364877

This is why this shit happens. "I gambled and didn't beat the odds, should I uninstall? nvm let me buy 200 more tp."
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What happened to Capybara memes?
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>>180284252
>pretends to have money
>want a weapon the cheap way like some wannabe-richfag
just buy the weapon for 100m or something, you are not poor, are you?
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Any Orsha dudes how much would you pay for some Enchanter scrolls? I can do Enchant Fire and JP for 'useful' ones.
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>>180284106

corsair 3 fencer 3 doppel 1
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>>180284656
>and no my lovely Pet. I had loved him since before
>I need it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>this fucking ugly shit pet
fucking BRs. he better uninstalls
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wew
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buy netherbovine cards now, tards
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>>180285894
Shut the fuck up they're mine and will be resold at a later date
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>>180284260
>I hate other people having fun and will make passive posts to show it
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>>180285894
why
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>>180284964
come to Klai and start selling PoA
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>>180287190
there was a video of a player using it as a sorc summon and it was doing incredibly well in 290. not sure if it really is that great doe.
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>>180287237
I don't see myself bothering with another enchanter or server outside of that leveling event, as it is I might consider remaking him into something else if we get a rank reset at some point.
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>>180287792

even if you use it now you'll see that bovine is great
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>>180289647
What are it's CD's and skills like? None on the market so I'd need to hunt it down.
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>>180289732
Second attack is an AoE thing that hits for strike damage I think 10 times in an area around you on 15 second CD. 3rd skill is useless shit that knocks people down and takes forever, his normal attack is pierce type and very responsive but mostly just his 2nd attack is really good.
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>>180284656
A post in the previous thread pretty much summed it up.
>>180168160
Gambling addicts are fucking hopeless. I'd be inclined to say "good, they keep the game funded which means it won't close," except it also means that more and more content will be locked away behind gambling shit.
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>>180291467
Wrong general m8
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>>180276570
>Just started a squire build with the rest of my tokens

Everything's coming up Milhouse.
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>>180291467
Take the money and buy a good game
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be honest, is this ok for dragoon c2

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1122384ff.23354552.1121334a557585.14213545.12253375.15213544.112a3a4455

I just want a chill build to kill some stuff, farm a dg without killing myself and join 2x2 tbl sometimes
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>>180292803
what the FUCK is that build
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I have Wiz3 costume.

I reset the guy who used it to be a CryoChrono

What class can I go?

>Ele3
No please God no, not again please God.
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>>180292901
wiz3 is only good for elememe, also now it's really much better than it used to be, it's no longer a frost cloud bot and warlock's skills are better now that you can aim them
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>>180292901
Necro.
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>>180292803

Buddy, I dunno what the fuck that is but every TBL dragoon I've seen is sword3cata3goon2 still. I could help you with a pve build but I don't do minigames.
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>>180293193

yeah but I don't like classic cata for dragoon, lancer is just the guy for the job

>>180292897
HL 2 is a stable super good dps build for any, any build currently thanks to how good the skill scales, serpentine makes everything better.

hop 1 comes for finestra and corsair c1 gives a better chance for pve. pelt c1 for evasion when needed, def and swash for comfy hg farming.
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>>180293407
make a build for either PvP or HG farming, don't make a shit jack of all trades, master of none cause it will never work
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>>180292901
Wiz3Elem3WL2
Link2Thaum2FF2
Cryo3Chrono3

others are shit or maybe work but them are best

or whateverNecro
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>>180293015
Fucking shoot me now. There is no Ele3WL2 option, shit is going in the market.
>>180293052
I thought people only used it with SPR?>>180293693
Might actually try Link2Thaum2.
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>>180293840
is that char r8? FF2 farmer is for high lvls and sux before that. and cant do much besides mob farming.
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>we fixed Clover buff and Pet buff problem
nice patch IMC

cant these nigga chinks do anything right?
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>>180294275
yes, make tons of money by selling gachas
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>>180282675

i got rank8 in 2 days by mapping out dungeon spots for quick warps then riding a 8x tome, 3 dungeon resets, and 3 multipliers
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>>180293840
wiz3=3
Link2=2
Thaum2=2
FF2=2
Total = 9
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What's the non-profit price for squire weapon buffs? 260?
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Can you still reset all the circles or I need to wait for the next big update?
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>>180295132

That thread just reminded me of that idiot in the comments who made some huge autistic ragequit thread because he accidentally broke a Sarkmis transcending it (yes) yet started playing again a week later and posts on like every fucking thread ever. Official forums are worth a kek sometimes.
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>>180295536
renewal is over, and has been for like 2 or 3 weeks
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>>180295885
did the reset event allow changes to classes or just reallocation of skills within those classes?
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>xe doesn't have a Rocksodon
If you don't get one you won't neither ET or ERP with me
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>>180295972
both, and stats too
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>>180296014
damn, i regret missing that
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>>180295980
>he(boy(male(You))) likes that shit pet
As if we do anything with (You), except adding (You) to block list.
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>>180296407
Who are these fucking aliens that keep getting posted
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>>180295980
>Using any pet
Imagine being this plebeian
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>>180296407
Just admit you are a poorfag
>>
>>180296809
No, but i have taste.
>>
>>180296495
cute girls with big attachments
>>
If you change character quick enough, can your sage teleport yourself?
>>
>>180295980
>ERPing while that ugly piece of shit is looking at you
>>
Hows the new p2w boxes?
What about the new 315 boxes?
>>
>>180297451
never worked for me

>>180297768
low chance to get not-shit
rng box to get any old recipe
>>
>No Rocksodon, No Party
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>>180297932
>any old recipe
Wasnt it about easy to craft 315 weapons?
Did IMC pulled an other racist trick on us?
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>>180298398
Yes because people on the forum complained about muh p2w
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>Shit potions
>Cost as much as good potions
>Sold at a loss
Why?
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>>180298482
Jesus christ are you serious?
IMC wont make these boxes any cheaper, why would they whine about stuff they arent planning to buy
Fuck forum people, all they did was cry about their health issues when their accounts got locked for a weekend
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>>180282675
>>180282470
Thanks, will try Prison District 2
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>>180298398
>>180298482
they never said we'll get the noMat recipe. maybe in the future. not all shit is same as other versions.
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>>180298542

when I'm leveling shitty alts and I see ultra cheap lv 5/10 potions, I buy. lv 15 potion is overkill for 90% of the characters
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>>180298542
>294 +1 Uosis to make 5 potions
>300 is a loss
wut
>>
>>180299093
>Forgets market fees
uhmmmmmmm
>>
I need to start shelling out for diamond anvils if i dont want to completely fuck this orange weapon up getting it to 11, god damnit.
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>>180299345
Even if the Uosis doubled the base cost to make 5 potions, each potion is still only about 118 so he's flipping each pot for almost +200 silver. With how quickly potions sells, his market fee shouldn't be above 2%. If he was selling 500 potions, he's only losing 3000 in market fees at 2%.
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how useful is fade 10?

trying to figure out what to max other than heal for my cleric 3 priest 3 ultra support slut
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>>180300195
It's pretty useful in ET afk floors
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Lmao, Burning Fire Lord in Sanctuary ch. 1 Klai.
My Elememe can't do anything against him, i'm fucking useless
>>
>>180300270
cool thanks, ET is the goal
>>
How would you fix your favorite class?
Buff? Nerf? Change everything?
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>>180300481
How can your Elememe not do anything against it? It's weak to Frost Cloud and Hail, Ele's strongest skills.
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>>180301194
>lvl 134
>161 INT, 43 CON
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>>180301194
what you like better for elememe, freezing sphere or meteor?
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>>180301416
sphere is not aoe. bad

meteor is also not great but worth a few points for a filler nuke
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>>180282235
If you don't go full spr then only thaum2 is enough,
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>>180282235
Post full build.
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>>180298063
IS MY PANDA NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU!?
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>>180302373
panda sucks
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>>180301345
>43 CON
Reroll
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>>180302441
YOU suck!

But yes, Panda sucks. +5 crit rate is bullshit.
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>>180302624
and also looks ugly and it makes you look more retarded
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>>180301345
That event weapon is pretty good, but well yes.. lower lvl sounds bad. probably low Attributes too
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>>180301103
WUGUSHI:

Buffs:
-Attribute that lowers the time between poison ticks to 0.3 that doesn't work in PvP.
-Poison durations increased from Wugong Gu 10s and Needle Blow 12.5s to 20s and 20s.
-Antidotes removed from the game
-Wugong Gu now spreads to enemies around the initial target automatically, like Plague Doctor's Death Steam.

Nerfs:
-Health Potions remove Wugushi Poisons
~This means that removing Wugushi poisons is something you can do on a 30s CD, meaning you save it for specific buffed poisons or remove all poisons if a Wugu blows her load on you.
-Throw Gu Pot has a lower cooldown, but also deals lower damage.
-Cards for Throw Gu Pot now scale with the amount of stars a card has, and Reaverpede and Honeypin card no longer stun.

Changes:
-Detoxify now prevents the application of poisons instead of removing them.
-Bewitch renamed to Detonate Poisons
~Detonate Poisons explodes all enemies affected by Needle Blow or Wugong Gu, dealing damage proportional to the remaining duration. 1 minute cooldown.
~Attribute: Confusion - Inflicts confusion on enemies hit by Detonate Poisons
-Jincan Gu bugs now inflict Needle Blow on targets they attack
-Zhendu now empowers you next Wugushi ability
~Throw Gu Pot - increases in size and duration relative to Zhendu level
~Needle Blow - deals instantaneous damage relative to Zhendu and Needle Blow level on application
~Wugong Gu - spreads more quickly and to 1 extra target per Zhendu level
~Jincan Gu - increased size and bug count
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>>180302828
>Buffs:
>triple its damage
Oh fuck off, wugushi is not that bad
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>>180303143
Play the Wugushi.
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>>180303256
Get an actual weapon.
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>>180303383
You mean a Purple with Crit Rate or an Orange with DEX, Crit Rate, and Crit Damage?
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>>180301103
>Inquisitor
Make pears great again
>Pardoner
Rework C3 with buff shop attributes
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>>180303569
So are you saying you have neither?
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>>180303870
You going to buy me one?
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>>180301103
Thauma.
Swell Left Arm: Increases AoE of main weapon autos. Doesn't affect missile or wizard autos. Higher priority for targets who would be hit by the normal aoe first.
Swell Right Arm: Now takes in account what your offarm provides for the buff. If it deals damage (pistol, 1h, dagger), it gives damage. If it gives defense (shield), it gives defense. 2Hand is considered damage. Increases AoE of subweapon attacks following the same logic as above.
Remove +Evasion/Acc attribute. New attribute at C3, gives 2% per attribute level of bonus damage and damage taken reduction if no offhand or 2hands.
Shrink: Increase it's AoE and make only duration scale with level. Seriously it's far from being as attractive as swell and it doesn't even boost damage when it matters (bosses).
Swell Brain: SkillLevel*0.1*INT scaling for MATK bonus.
New C3 spell: Enlarge - Think Sage Ultimate Dimension + Miko Sweeping. Grants a buff to all allies for a short amount of time that increases AoE of abilities (actually a relevant amount) and their AoE ratio.

Though I doubt I'd be chosen over a cryochrono still.
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>>180298741
Go farm your mats like everyone else, faggot.
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>>180303786
What's wrong with pears? It's 5x 700% or something with some attribute investment, the pear grenade after 10 seconds was stupidly overpowered.
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>Farm 120HG for eastern leather pants
>After an hour get 14 armor cubes and 3 weapon cubes
>Open them all
>Get everything but the pants

Sometimes I really hate this game. Never seen that fucking pants drop once, meanwhile I'm swimming in alpra gear
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>>180304184
Shut up, Cleric has to be the best at everything in the game.
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>>180304223
sell all that shit and buy the pants with the money, it's how it's suppossed to work
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>>180304039
Thauma.
New C3 spell: Pass

Should just add Pass to every class
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>>180304223
should have farmed them before rebalance
alpra is good tho
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>>180304184
>single target
i.e.: irrelevant in this game
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>>180304184
Pears capped at 5 kinda defeats their purpose, back then you could have 7 pears with better damage scaling for non-phys classes
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>>180302828
Detonate poison is probably the dumbest name I've heard
Just leave it as bewitch and make it amplify poison damage for a short time instead of just deleting the debuffs, that kills the fun of poison
Zhendu should be a type of "enchant poison" that gives party members poison damage on their attacks and causes a stackable poison debuff that increases in power with your str
Jincan bugs should be something interesting, when they come in contact with an enemy it receives an infested debuff, which increases in duration with the number of poisons the enemy has on it at the time it's inflicted. Dealing damage over time and creating more bugs if the enemy dies with the debuff still active, proportional to the number of zhendu stacks the enemy died with
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If pets get magic attack as physical attack as well now does that mean a Hunter with a pet dual wielding high end maces would be absurdly strong? If you were crazy enough to slap on two Skull Smashers your pet would have close to 8k attack and updog is on a 5 second CD with good scaling.
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>>180304223
What are you using to farm that fast?
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>>180305348
120 HG's drop rate is still bugged.
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>>180305348
>>180306145
SR, dunno if it's bugged, cubes aren't exactly dropping asap, 120 tends to be run a lot in the evening on fedimian
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Is roost good for Falconers? Will it make me not use Call like every 2 secs?
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>>180306740
Yes
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>>180306351
I went there for to test damage on one of my lower level characters, got 2 weapon cubes and a armor cube in 5 minutes. I just left because fuck getting banned again. I'm on Klai though.
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Sup guys, I just downloaded the game again after realizing that I had bought the early access pack a long long time ago.

Im just looking for a game to chill out and farm in, spending some money here and there isnt a big deal and to my understanding this game isnt P2W.

Can someone point me in the right direction of what im supposed to be focusing on as a low level? (Currently level 8 Archer)

Should I be avoiding these blue quests and just follow story quests?
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How do I get the moneys
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>>180307021
>>180307080
just b urself
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Swaaz, if you're still here (or anyone as autistic as him about collections) do you know what drops the recipe for Sharp Rapier?
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>>180307021
do quests, kill stuff, do dungeons, do missions, go archer 2 quarrel shooter 3 falconer 3, be useful, have fun
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>>180307432
>Quarrel shooter
Don't you dare recommend that shit
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>>180307432

I think you meant to say Sapper.
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>>180307505
it's good for a newbie
you just get buffs, cast running shot, auto attack and shit dies
>>180307590
sapper is optimal but QS3 will be cheaper and easier to level with to be honest
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>>180307145
But really how do I make the moneys
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>have 2 rank 8 characters with wugushi in them
>want to make another wugu

just hang me
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>>180307684
are you SR? run 140
are you thaumFF? run 290 without killing the mage rooms
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>>180306782
Cool, so I'm adding it then.
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>>180307674
Nobody enjoys walking and holding one button
It's mind numbingly boring, shit to begin with, and has nothing to do with falconer

>>180307684
farm dungeons
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>>180307801
What does SR mean
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>>180308051
Schwarzer reiter
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>>180307801
>are you thaumFF? run 290 without killing the mage rooms
Nah run the 260
Arti price is shit now
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>>180308175
the 260 is a pain in the ass to be honest, and the 290 is much faster to run
I'd rather spend 30 minutes doing 3 290 runs for 1 milion than a bit more than an hour doing 3 260 runs for 1.8 milions
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>>180308098
Oh
I'm not that
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>>180307726

i got 4 different sappers
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>>180308474
What other builds does Sapper even fit in?
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>>180308674

It's good in pretty much any non-mounted Archer.
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>>180308674
Falconer, filler for musketeer
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Really made me rethink
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>>180309998

I don't know whether she's cute or horribly disturbing
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>>180308674
I've only seen:
Falcon
Musket
Fletcher
Cannonner
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>>180309998
I'd link with her if you know what I mean :^)
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>>180309998
I want to connect with her bottom orifices.
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>>180310171
>Cannonner
Sapper works really bad with cannon since broom trap scale with main hand only.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311555deh
This is a rather strong aoe dps build, as far as archers go.
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>>180310515

Cannoneer isn't going to go anything else. QS3 is a giant meme and ranger 3 doesnt' offer much. I see a lot of cannons go archer3sapper3 (even though desu a2sap3app1 is prob better) simply from lack of options.
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>>180311021
>QS3 is a giant meme
Running Shot works with Bazooka stance, it's actually pretty good.
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>>180311021
>Ranger3 doesn't offer much
>20% increased damage
>not much
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>>180311187

It does work with Bazooka but "work" is pretty loosely used here because Bazooka itself is incredibly unwieldy.

>>180311250

It's 20% damage with shitty uptime. I promise you that even with an average xbow your sapper skills are going to contribute more than steady aim.
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>>180311383
Maybe if you're poor. If you're actually investing in your cannon, like you should be with Cannoneer, 20% is pretty huge. Spiral Arrow and Bouncing Shot aren't bad skills either.

10 second duration, 25 second cooldown isn't bad, and it lines up perfectly with Cannon Blast.
>>
Wugu1:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3114666gg.1a4a5a.45

Wugu2:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311558666.1a4a5a

I'm about to delete my Hamster to make
Wugu3:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31116686h

Then when the R9 reset event happens I'll reset my least favorite
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>>180311614

It's less than 50% uptime. Sapper skills are much stronger than they used to be and they're going to be contributing more than 20% of your damage less than 50% of the time unless you just have a dumpster crossbow... and it's not like you'd use a bad crossbow if you go r3 anyways.
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>>180311920
>Wugu2:
This sounds like fucking shit

>Wugu3:
Co falconer instead of Scout
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>>180311987
You're really underestimating how huge +% damage increases are.
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>>180301103
Necro:

Skels C1. Ranged Skels C2.
-Both capped at 10.
-Necronomicon's second and third slot affect what type of skels are created and the damage type skels do: Plant type = Pierce/Bow, Mutant type = Strike/Gun, Beast type = Slash/Magic
-There would be some way to call skels to you and to send them to an area.
-Skels would be unable to be knocked down or affected by sleep/stun. They wouldn't have too much HP however. Ranged ones especially.
-Skel block/dodge/hit/crit rate is affected by card stars.
-They are able to be affected by most buffs
-Attribute that makes them take 1s from everything but able to take card star * attribute level number of hits.

Shoggoth has at least one form (with different basic attack and armor types) per card type inserted in the first slot(honestly I'd make it like the preview shoggoth but there was probably a reason it was changed)
-Capped at 15

Corpse tower shoots a multi hit beam and has 2 overheat.
-Has an attribute to let it move around on tentacle legs but makes it take a certain amount of sp/second
-4th necronomicon slot would modify its attack (e.g. a electrocute style beam, a hellbreath type beam). Damage is also affected by card stars.
-Its skel raising attribute makes special skeletons that aren't affected by your cap(up to skill level #), but they are time limited.

Dirty pole can be PP'd and its archer boosting effect works on bosses, though bosses don't lose HP or max HP.
Flesh hoop has a chance to block attacks while it's up.
Flesh strike is has a larger AOE & less damage, but poisons(hitting the shoggoth still causes corruption too).
Gather corpse is removed, Disinter is first circle.

New skill that lets you summon an abomination based on the 4 cards in the necronomicon. Races, card attributes for the purpose of the card game, and stars all have some effect. It only lasts for a while. It has a unique pool of skills that will be added to it based on the cards. (it mostly has buffs and debuffs)
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>>180312130
Forgot:
>pets stop auto attacking after 1 minute afk
>>
How is the state of Necromancer right now?
What about Sorcerer and Warlock?
>>
>>180312387
Warlock is the best DD ingame
Sorcerer and necro have an incoming buff but they're still meh
>>
>>180312591
>Warlock is the best DD ingame
That's doppel
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>>180312069
>This sounds like fucking shit
It is.

>Co falconer instead of Scout
No. I have a Scout3 Falcon Mergen, and I hate Falcon so much that I straight up deleted my Hawk and don't even play my Falcon Mergen anymore. FUCK FALCON. It's beyond overrated.
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>>180312387
>Necromancer
afk farming. shit otherwise. maybe ok soon
>Sorcerer
maybe ok soon

>Warlock
WL2 is good with Wiz3-Elem3. and meta again
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>>180312387
>Necromancer and Sorcerer
It doesn't matter how they are right now. They're getting a huge buff soon.

>Warlock
Nice burst and total damage with Mastema. PoA is okay. Dark Theurge is meh.
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>>180312243
No that's stupid. In fact, they'd have the AI between when they'd wander off and never come back and this current one where they can't leave your shadow. The one where they had a decent aggro range and didn't have to require targets ever second. AFK farming is a problem of game, enemy, and map design. The primary problem being that there's basically no other way to even get money. It's just botting, afking, and RMTing or selling extremely rare shit to people who did one of the above.

If anything the first change I'd make would be to never auto collect drops. If you have to click on the silver instead of having it fly to you, the afkers would have to actually bot and have a reason to be banned.
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>>180312770
>huge
LOL
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Where does the stuff you buy on the market go to?
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>>180312841
into the shadow realm
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>>180312841
Are you literally retarded
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>>180312778
>require targets
reacquire targets
>>
I FUCKING HATE IMC AND THEIR RETARDED EXPIRY SHIT
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>>180312896
I'm new, bought something cheap just to test it out and didn't receive it yet.
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>>180312778
>there's basically no other way to even get money
Confirmed for not playing the game, stop theorycraft
>>
I'm plannin on coming back on the game soon, what about this build I have(had?)
Pyro2>Linker1>Sorcerer3>Warlock2?
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>>180312778
>There's no other way to get money

Bull fucking shit. You can farm items to sell while also making anywhere from 500k to 1 mill per hour, it just requires you to actually play the game and for you to actually invest in a character so you can farm at reasonable speeds. The problem is that the money you make doing those other things pales in comparison to afk farming and now people think that the amount of money you make afk farming should be the standard since prices of everything have adjusted accordingly.
>>
New!

>>180313079
>>180313079
>>180313079
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>>180310515
>Sapper works really bad with cannon since broom trap scale with main hand only.
Is the difference really that big when you can invest into refining your crossbow too?
I have a (Scout3)Falcon1Mergen1 with +11 Aufgowle Bow and it is pretty underwhelming honestly.
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>>180313036
>Doesn't have a counter argument
go back to selling your shit buffs for 50k a day.

>You can farm items to sell
Yeah to RMTers like I said.
>or selling extremely rare shit to people who did one of the above.
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>>180313040
Now pyro is 3 or bust
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>>180313040
Pyro is pretty weak now. Link1 also crap. Sorc maybe decent soonish. WL2 is good (but rest of build not)
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>>180310515
What fucking purpose does appraiser serve in this
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>>180313208
So Pyro3>Link1 (I have it sadly, I cannot change it right now) Sorcerer 2>Warlock 2?
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>>180313176
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>>180313338
no
Pyro0

Cryo3Sorc3 is a thing
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>>180313410
I already have Pyro 2, I cannot change it right now.

Also I always hated Cryo, fuck cryo.
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>>180313040
This build is impossible with R8, you forgot Wiz1.
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>>180313534
what lvl are you?
Pyro is weak, just reroll
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>>180313571
fuck, you are right.
Wiz1>Pyro3>Linker1>Sorc1>Warlock2?
>>180313657
Sigh too much time
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>>180313146
>when you can invest into refining your crossbow too?
You'd need to invest into 2 weapon, which is retarded.
>>
>>180313815
>Wiz1>Pyro3>Linker1>Sorc1>Warlock2?
Oo. Link1 is crap. Pyro changed too
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>>180313274
Crit chance and drops enemies' defense.
Enchanter is not just +3 to your offhand.
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>>180313338
foget link
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>>180312778
There's plenty of ways to make money. They just require more effort than afk farming. The value of money in an MMO is in proportion to the time and effort required to get it, so the presence of afk farming and botting devalues all other money.

Never autocollecting drops would be a huge pain in the ass when every mob drops a tiny bit of silver. It would make sense to disable autocollecting after a minute without user activity, but that's not so different from giving necros the sorcerer treatment with pets not attacking. If they extended the AI timeout to 5 minutes instead of 1, it wouldn't happen in normal gameplay.

They'll never get rid of AFK farming through enemy and map design since established farmers will just move to whatever the best map is, forcing the developers to turn every single map in the game into a low spawnrate minefield of super elites.
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>>180314001
>50% miss
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>All the cute hats not ingame anymore
I miss when missions and stuff had nice drops
Where are people finding that sprout hat?
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>>180314881
>duration vs cd
It's still a very good skill on both bosses and groups.
It's also 60% with the attribute
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>>180314904
was a event reward or free gift or something
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