/mhg/ - Monster Hunter General

First for cautiously hyped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKE9iVz-Ig

Livestream link for people who missed it

>cut out the main audience and try to appeal to the west
>then only advertise to the japanese and only show the footage in japan

capcom...

>>180267260
>being able to cancel heal/eating animation meaning there's a chance to escape getting 1shot
>everyone gets capture guru now so we don't even need to bother to see if it's limping
>anime shit is back but less flashy
It keeps getting worst everytime i see more of this game

First for the Nintoddler's tears.

>>180267260
Alright let's get some semblance of Monster Hunter here. List:
>Best Elder Dragon
>Worst Elder Dragon
Explanations as to why is most welcome.

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Why does the Greatsword look so fast and weightless?

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no slut armor no buy

Anime without the pointless flash and kiddie colors! MHW is everything I've always wanted from monhun!

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>>180267385
mounting looks so easy this time

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This game is going to sell 2 million tops

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo147cgKsXQ

>>180267412
Did we watch a different video?

>>180267412
I guess they want to go with a combo GS approach

>>180267497
おかえりなさい、 モンスターハンター

ITT: Faggots who will NEVER be happy with anything they get

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At least we saw palicos

>>180267497
>Oh, the monster threw you off? Don't worry, you can just grapple back onto it! :)

>>180267412
What does the visual effect when you charge look so bland?

>>180267635
I agree, it should've had more sparkly shit because that's what Monster Hunter is all about.

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>>180267623
>How DARE people not like what they see! NINTODDLER! NINTODDLER!

>>180267413
good, we dont want you

>>180267748
I'm not even a monster hunter fan I'm just a lurker whose been watching the shitstorm thanks for proving my point though

>>180267719
>that super attack
What the fuck?

i hope the other maps that get added aren't as much of a clusterfuck as the forest

>>180267748
>How DARE people like what they see! SHILL! SHILL!
You know this is getting boring. Do we have other names to call each other?

>>180267719
>People say X is anime as fuck
>But this is okay

>>180267805
Then fuck off back to your cesspit that is /v/

>>180267748
Proven from every game that's been released or will be released, MHW apparently isn't an exemption. Guy has a point anon

>>180267497
Didn't really seem to cause topples though. The mini-game in general seems very different when mounted too.

>>180267868
>Then fuck off back to your cesspit that is /v/
nah

>>180267868
Link a single post saying this is ok.

>>180267815
It consumes your spirit level

>>180267738
Based on the meat, and the player cancelling out of eating not giving them the effect, i think it's safe to say you have to finish the whole animation to get the full effect or you end up wasting part of the potion

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>>180267786
>''we''

>>180267868
>People say X is anime as fuck
I didn't notice superdives with no repurcussions.

>>180267497
Are you having a laugh? Mounting was always piss easy.
If anything, this has potential for some harder and more interesting mounting gameplay with later monsters rather than the same QTE every time.

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>>180267719
Hang on, did they remove LS aura or something for this attack?

>>180267930
We're all one person don't you know?

>>180267719
>>180267815
>>180267868

Anyone that complains about longsword getting a vertical bar spirit gauge is confirmed for wanting to be tripped more often then a loc lac hunter fighting plesioth.

>>180267974
oh right i forgot where i am. please return to regularly scheduled discord posting and unironically playing double cross.

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>>180267985
>mounting Alatreon
>easy

>>180268040
Did it have to look so ridiculous though?

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Back again with some more things.

- Great Sword finisher changed slightly. It is now a two hit attack, with massive damage on the second hit. Hunter does uncharged draw slash (30?) -> uncharged strong slash (whiff) -> finisher (30 + 134).
- Some damage numbers are grey, some orange. The orange ones are higher numbers so grey probably means bad hitzone and orange means good hitzone.
- When running from Anjanath hunter eats a bug from on the ground, it temporarily gives him slower stamina consumption from sprinting and faster stamina regen. Lasts for 60sec.
- Rathalos dropping Anjanath from the air does 1181 damage.
- Hunters can move very slowly while affected by roars.
- Hunter fires para throwing knives from his slinger. This knocks Rathalos out of mid-air, then paralyzes it while he puts bombs next to the dam.
- Rathalos takes fall damage after being washed off the cliff. Triple digits, around 500 damage I think? Low bitrate on video makes it very difficult to tell.
- Bow appears to have gotten it's own variant of the demon dash from dual blades. Forward and backward dashes are seen chaining into charges, side dash can be seen chaining into explosive arrow.

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Anyone else feels this game looks way too fucking easy? Hunters are so fast now but Monsters are slow as shit even when in rage.

I can ignore all the other casualization but the combat doesn't look right to me as a MH vet.

>>180268041
Next stop : Blancharlotteposting.

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so hard to get a good quality lance gameplay

>>180267260
I'm reading the information pastebin on OP and i saw this :
>No village quests, however the story is done through the multiplayer and can be done solo.

This with the PS+ shitposting in the last thread scare me as a solo hunter for life. Will i have to get PS+ to play the game even in solo ? Is it going to be like MHTri on wii where some quest and monster where multiplayer only ? Or is it going to be like the last game on 3DS where i can do all the game even G rank solo (more difficult and longer but still doable solo)?

>>180267738
>Use item, consumes one unit
>white bar acts as a temporary recovered unit
>Has to finish the animation. temporary recovered unit doesn't count when hit and actual unit will be used when calculating damage

People are losing their shit over this?

>>180268119
>I watched someone play the game
>Lol, so easy.

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>People say this game is mainline
>It looks more of a spin-off than X

>mfw XX represents the last bastion of mk2 Monster Hunter.

mk1 - MH to MHFU
mk2 - MH3 to MHXX
mk3 - casualized garbage

>>180268119
with how cluttered and constrictive the map looks, i don't even know how faster monsters would even work

>>180268183
>people say
It's not a people say argument anymore, the developers have said MULTIPLE times it's a mainline game.

>>180268183
>Nintencucks this much in denial

>>180268190
>mk2 - MH3 to MHXX
>separated from casualized garbage
AHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>180268132
yeah, that certainly looks like lance.

>>180268183
>It looks more of a spin-off than X
how? if they had the technology on the PS2 this is what monster hunter would have wanted it to be like

So does damage just look low because the health bar is so small?

>>180268247
>>180268306
Doesn't stop it from looking like a weird ripoff of MHO

>>180268260
Uh oh, someone's triggered

>>180268106
Thanks anon, keep up the good work.

>>180268132
Lanceguy didn't get a lot of screentime, sadly. Didn't see a lot in the way of new moves.

>>180268324
>Doesn't stop it from looking like a weird ripoff of MHO
This is getting desperate now, you need to take a walk or something. You've deluded yourself that melons are exactly like apples.

>>180268132
>OG triple stab
yeeeeeee boi

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>>180267260
>Livestream in a few hours
>when it already happened two threads ago
>no link to stream

>>180268324
Triggered? Quite the opposite anon, your kind are quite the stress relievers while i do my work.

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>>180268190
>mhxx is a last bastion of anything
lmao keep slurping up ichinoses doodoo droppings dude

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>>180268119
Its assumed that this is low rank. Stop losing your shit over an obiously easy demo

Why do they keep putting new moves on the weapons? Just go back to FU movesets ffs

>>180268416

Read the thread you inbred cretin:

>>180267383

>>180268314
probably that + tutorial demo monster
inb4 this is 3U again

>>180268461
That's not the point.

>>180268372
At least it didn't have the triple thrust finisher.

>>180268449
You can always go back Grandpa

>>180268501
Didn't even think about that, that's a good observation.

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>>180268449
>just go back to like 3-5 moves per weapon and have only greatsword hammer and HBG worth using

>World has been in development for 3-4 years
>Still looks janky and unpolished

Really flashbombs my rathalos

>>180268053
We've only seen mounting on MHW's equivalent of YKK.

>>180268550
>implying that's a bad thing
>implying more moves is better

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>>180268291
yea I mean the stream quality was shit and lance guy is always at the bottom

>>180268190
>*mk2 - MH3 to MH4U

Fixed for you my man

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MHW feature in Famitsu this week. Nothing new probably since there's no leaks

>>180268569
It's almost like this team that's used to just porting PS2 garbage in verbatim and slightly touching it up had to come up with a whole new set of assets and massively adjust the gameplay.

>>180268475
>gets a link to the stream
>that's not the point
You're correct. The point is you're a stupid faggot.

>>180268501
>>180268549
Why not just let you choose between doing the regular or triple thrust finisher depending on input? I liked the new finisher, just not it replacing the old one.

>>180267404
>best
Shaggy Maggy, just feels like a fight against an ascendant dragon, that seems beautiful and radiant on the outside, but is destructive and brutal as fuck at its core
>worst
The fucking Mohren fights. They're not fun, they're barely a fuckin fight to begin with and having to grind their pieces is one of the most boring and tedious things in this game.

>Used to have to use your imagination to play MH
>They actually make real video games now
Casualized garbage

>>180268684
He's talking about the OP not being updated with the livestream link, friend.

>>180268106
based analyzer anon

>>180268685
Because it's an unneeded addition. Lance is beautiful in its simplicity. Forward thrusts. Upward thrusts. That's it. That's all you need.

>What you are about to hear are the NPC's talking in Japanese, however, we will have an option for people to play the game with Mon Hun Language

>>180268119
Why would they ever demo a hard fight? You think this is darksouls where 85% of the fanbase gets a chub if they see the words "game over"?

They got shit to show off. They ain't got time for carts.

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I can't really put my finger on why, but I don't know, I just wasn't very impressed. I'm still on the fence about it.

>>180268685
Won't lie, a lightweight take on styles would be nice, but I guess all the stuff from Gen/XX came off as very experimental

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>>180268769
but thats boring. it seems to have a new guard stance of some kind and i guarantee you it will have a new aerial/sliding move as well.

>>180268679
LOL, shows how incompetent they are.

>>180268791
>tfw played Ranger in DD
Getting some DD vibes and I like it.

>>180268846
>distasteful show of wealth

Guys like these are disgusting scrubs

>Make western game
>Slap the name Monster Hunter on it
wew

>>180268862
All that the styles and arts are were just frontier moves converted to styles and arts.

>>180268791
no more line? at least the screen shakes

>>180267404
>Best
I'd call it a tie between Amatsumagatsuchi and Shaggy. Amatsu is a beautiful and majestic mountain top creature, that doesn't even seem to want to harm anything, but it just can't help being a living natural disaster. And Shagaru is a perfect representation of an evil dragon, equal parts shining golden majesty, the hint of cold intellect you see in its ecology video, and bestial rage and violence.
>worst
my little pony. Because an elder dragon shouldn't be nothing more than a prancing annoyance.

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>>180268846
>no PC
JUST

>>180268942
>Outsource a monster hunter game
>Slap the name monster hunter on it
Wew

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>>180268684
How hard would it have been to actually maintain the OP?

>>180268846
how will xbox players claw?

I like the MGSV vibe to it as in everything seems fluid and almost open world-like. I love MGSV.

>>180268915
This trend of showing your characters doing things in the background while your in menus is great and really needs to continue so I can see more comfy.

>>180268958
>>180268862
Frontier does have an interesting take on styles. Instead of stupid cookie cutter gimmicks applied to all the weapons, each style works differently for each weapon, so it basically is just giving you moveset options instead. I would like to see that approach if they ever do return to the style system, where the styles are tailored to the weapons instead of forcing their weirdness on everything.

>>180269029
>Make Dragon's Dogma
>Slap Monster Hunter name on it

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>>180269018
It's meh

>>180269071
I doubt World will require you to claw

>>180268915
>only 10 fire on the LS
did they rework element?

>>180268915
What's below the charge blade ?

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>>180269071
Xbots are better at clawing

Guys, there's a secret PS2 MH fanbase that's been lying dormant since 2008 that's just waiting to buy Monster Hunter. World will surely sell 5 million in west!

>>180269154
not just meh anon. That's just bad

>>180269117
Frontier styles are just straight upgrades, there's no choice involved

I love the gobul!

>>180269158
Same thing in Gen/XX.
It's the equivalent to 100 fire in 3u/4u which is appropriate for a LR weapon.

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>>180269071

>>180269240
>secret PS2 MH fanbase
This sounds like something that would exist in Japan.

>>180269154
GPU and CPU could use an upgrade, rest is ok.

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>>180269240
Outside of 4chan, I've seen absolutely no hype for this game whatsoever. Normies aren't talking about it, and the only people that I've seen that are excited for it are people like this.

>>180269292
Oh crab claw. It's funny how i do it with other games and i don't even realize it.

>>180269259
I've never played Frontier but I've read about the styles and from the way it was described it sounded like there *should* be options. I'm assuming this is a failure in execution and not design. For instance, the torch-GL style seemed really cool, but so do elemental shots. Ideally they would both be useful.

>>180269347
/togg/ when?

hey /mhg/ I'm playing MHFU and i need med monster bone. where/ how to find them? i know that in the original MH, you can get them as a reward for the "liver of the legend" mission. and the internet says that's the same in FU. but I've done the mission 3 times already and i didn't get even 1. please help.

>>180269283
but the damage numbers look like they have the multiplier on them, it looks like the gs has like 494 damage or something.

>>180269347
Pfft, outside of 4chan the fanbase is pretty fucking hyped, some people are being drawn in. But hey, surely those are shills.

>>180269451
What would it be comprised of?
>MH
>FE

>>180269375
No, the vast majority of them are designed as straight upgrades to let you keep up with increasingly difficult monsters. The only real exceptions were the Tonfa and SA styles, since those weapons were added later and are G rank exclusive, so their movesets were designed to handle these kinds of monsters well to begin with. And now extreme style is the best for every weapon anyway.

>>180269347
/v/ and /mhg/ continue to represent only a sliver of Monster Hunter's player base, despite what you seem to think. You can barely get a room going around here once a game's been out for a short while.

>>180269518
I see. So, how does the stabbing SnS style really change anything? That one stuck out to me as strange.

>>180269486
Because 4chan is being infested with butthurt nintendo cum buckets?

>>180269283
100 is low even in LR. I feel like they just made element weaker again.

>>180269617
>Maybe someone will believe me if I keep saying it

>>180269117
>forcing their weirdness on everything.

Yeah, that's where I think Gen/XX went wrong with it. If Aerial wasn't enough, this is especially apparent on Gunner weapons because they can't exactly take away your ability to shoot, and some even gave the weapons more mobility and safety at little expense vs Guild. Striker on some weapons was probably something of an example of how it should've been, like how GL got a third poke instead of a slam and GS couldn't overcharge like in FU

>>180269617
Wouldn't press the finger that hard, but 4chan, /v/ in particular feels like some hive of hateful contrarians who could never like a game.

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>>180269161
Unequipping weapons ?

>>180269692
Striker was awful because it was always either a strict downgrade or a strict upgrade, but no matter what it would only ever remove options from you, never add them.

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>>180269161
some U shit the stream quality is shit I cant really make out what it is

>>180269618
https://mhxxx.kiranico.com/buki/4a969

Some weapon lines have low element.

>>180269161
Kinsect

>>180269161
>>180269902
its a kinsect

>>180269842
>What is CB's guard point on XA attack
>What is Lance's original third poke

>instead of reworking charms into something that isnt some RNG shitfest they just removed them
ah capcom

>>180270008
>What is Lance's original third poke
Also just removing something, capcom is just incompetent so removing an attack can actually make the weapon better overall.
If you wanted to point something out about Lance at least mention the charge instead (even though that was a fucking mistake)

Now that probably half of the weapons are going to have some jump attacks etc.SNS is going to be even shittier compared to other weapons


just great

>>180270017
>assuming they're not going to replace it with something else

>>180269842
>but no matter what it would only ever remove options from you
So? Striker should've just been like Lance's for most weapons. Give up options to make certain core moves more powerful. It'd be the designated best TA style, but be the hardest to use since you'd only have 1-2 attacks to work with.

>>180270107
Other styles have the charge too.
A MV increase is not the same as adding or removing attacks so I didn't include it.

>>180270129
it always was shit

>>180268183
>literally looks like the first sequel to MH1 instead of an expansion
>spinoff

>x is a great case study for flanderization
>mainline

>>180269842
The point was that it was the closest thing to a plain moveset modifier style without any real gimmicks behind it before hunter arts, and you're quite right in that it was either hit or miss in practice. I think the devs should've gone for something that shuffles around moves as a sidegrade, though at the end of the day there probably would still end up being a relatively dominant style for each weapon.

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- Lance forward dash confirmed, only covers a very short distance though, definitely shorter than demon dash and bow dash.

- Para toad on ground kicked by hunter, after a short delay released a puff of smoke which paralyzed Anjanath. Later in video hunters try to do the same thing again but paralyze themselves by accident.

- Longsword has received a few changes. New attack is a forward jab, similar to the charge with lance. If the jab lands the hunter can launch themselves into the air and do a falling vertical slice. The launch does not appear to be mandatory. The jab can come out in a few different ways. You can pull it out following Spirit 3 (the 3-hit attack) for no spirit cost. Alternatively, the hunter follows up a horizontal fade slash with a backwards spinning dash which consumes the entire spirit gauge. The player combos this (spirit dash?) directly into the jab. I'm pretty certain the jab can also be done from idle, but it's hard to tell with the footage we have seen so far. The falling attack has two after-effects. Firstly, it resets your spirit level to 0 regardless of whether it lands or not. Secondly, it makes you passively generate spirit over time until your spirit gauge is full. The spirit dash is the move i'm most interested in. It must have some kind of property that makes it worth consuming your entire gauge, perhaps i-frames?

- Slinger looks like it's used for all the items in the game that were previously thrown, like flash bombs, stones and throwing knives.


Dunno how much more I can glean from this demo guys, bit-rate is fucking awful.

https://youtu.be/rOiQb81tAI0?t=6m44s
Apparently you don't need to go back to town for another quest, pretty neat.

>>180270443
>Firstly, it resets your spirit level to 0 regardless of whether it lands or not.
Sounds like absolute shit. Who would ever use this?

>>180270443

>>180268627

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>>180270530
We don't know yet. It could be an extremely powerful attack that scales with your spirit level, but we don't know because
a) the player never went above white spirit level
b) he whiffed the vertical strike EVERY SINGLE TIME AAAAAGGHHHH

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>>180269347
We /grognard/ now.

>>180268190
Gen 1 - The Dream 1.0
Gen 2 - The Dream 1.2
Gen 3 - The Dream 1.5
Gen 4 - The Dream 1.25
Gen 5 - The Dream 2.0

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>>180270530
Frontier?

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>>180270643
I'm not asking for them to draft in speedrunners or anything, but is it really too much to ask to get competent MH players in to play the demo?

The lack of GS or bow charge, the hammer user avoiding the head and the LS user not using the spirit finisher triggers me.

>>180269719
It's like you're only now figuring this one out

>>180270807
if they were competent the gameplay would have been only 35 seconds

>>180270807
It was a trash tutorial monster so they intentionally tried to avoid killing it too quickly.

>>180270017
"good"

maybe the focus will actually be on sets again

>mfw clownsuit autists start crying that that was a fundamental feature of the game too

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>>180270497
Nice, I didn't pick up on that when I watched it live. That's a really nice change.

>>180270794
>LS shitter
>Not whiffing

>>180270904
Less figuring this out and more first hand experience.

>>180270129
jumping attacks never were the strenght of sns, it only thanks to its speed its any good

although it will be worse than in other games probably

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I wonder if the Game is going to have Trophies/Achievements. Weren't they the cause of the beef between the MH Team and Sony? Or was it just a made up rumor?

>>180270321
the MV increase is functionally the same as adding the attack because an entire playstyle emerged out of just using that attack.

>>180271363
>or was it a made up rumor
which one looks more likely?

Lance seems to have Frontier's charged poke and high guard

>>180271363
MH has had achievements since F2.

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Stuck all my posts together, including those from last thread so that they don't get lost and I can produce them for people on demand. Just posting here to make sure compression isn't fucked and text is readable.

>new livestream
APOLOGIZE
>normies on youtube complaining it looks clunky and buggy
literally can't please anyone, the diehards are mad and the normies still don't think it's streamlined and cinematic enough

>>180271363
Every console game has to have achievements, it's like a rule or something.

Them having Beef over it sounds like the stupidest thing ever.

>>180272134
it does look jank, looks pretty unpolished
hopefully they fix it by launch

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Monster Hunter World!

Am I the only one who thinks health bars are a really poor idea? All it does is demoralize you when you see how little damage your attacks are doing.

I would never have finished hunting my first monster if it had a health bar, I'd just stop playing. The notion that every blow could finish it off is what kept me going.

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>>180272182
nah, you want fixes wait for the $79.99 G Rank expansion.

>>180272202
You're out!

>>180272182
The ENTIRE FUCKING ARGUMENT that you old fucks have been making is "WAH, MONSTER HUNTER IS *SUPPOSED* TO BE CLUNKY AND BUGGY AND REALLY HARD TO PLAY, FIGHTING YOUR CONTROLS IS HALF THE GAME!"

>>180272294
whoa, i AM the entire MH fanbase? feels weird

>>180269161
looks like a cat

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>Livestream unannotated
>Virtualu youtuba AI des gets them within the hour

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Daily reminder that white fatalis is the most powerful monster on Minegarde by far and has no equal in land sky or sea. Dalamdur cucks need not apply.

>>180272206
yea I hate how it blocks half of the screen too

the massive "ONE HIT LEFT" booming popup was completely ridiculous

>>180268119
>B-BUT NINTENDO
>B-BUT YOU GUYS JUST HATE CHANGE
>WAHH I DON'T WANT TO BE ALONE

Every single one of you are to blame for turning my favorite franchise into casual westernized garbage. I hope Capcom burn down with this, because they won't have monster hunter to fall back on anymore.

>>180272134
So let's settle this once and for all. Why did Capcom do it?

My theory is that they panicked once they realized the 3DS would be the last handheld, and noticed that the PS4 couldn't even sell 5 million in Japan.

From that angle, it makes sense to put MH on console and market it to the west. It's literally their only choice.

It just won't feel right on the PS4 or PC to be honest

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Lance GP, high guard counter, and lastly a zenith style backhop thrust

>>180272037
The lance high guard works exactly like that in frontier, consuming stamina in exchange for better guard. But mhw adds a counter to it.

>>180272431
>they won't have monster hunter to fall back on anymore

>MHW flops
>MH5 announced at Jump Festa/TGS 2018
>adds some of the immersion fluff while getting rid of massive casualization

>>180272556
the game started development 4 years ago
the PS4 was expected to sell much better in japan
it didn't, and now theyre relying on the west, who don't give a fuck

>>180272605
>zenith style backhop thrust
Where?

>>180272671
The logic behind your explanation far exceeds mine. Well done.

>>180272637
With what money? They must have been spending a fortune to make this shitty game. If doesn't sell well, they will probably churn out another no effort 3ds game again. Instead of making a real monster hunter on the proper platforms.

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>>180272726
Last part where he jumps backwards off the monster.

>>180272763
You've got a problem with that? The best games in the franchise (FU, 3U, 4U) were rehashes, two of them rehashes of a rehash.

Why do people complain about the difficulty when x/xx were the easiest game is series, we had two styles that allowed the player to have copious amounts of I-frames and even before that there were two skills that improved evasion. The sentiment that MHW is going to be easy for one, is hard to prove now due to no hands on gameplay and only seeing demo footage. The enhanced mobility that comes from not stopping while drinking a potion will let players move out of the way of some attacks but is that more breaking than having a mechanic in the game where your rolls give you 10 billion I-frames with no armor skill investment. Most of the difficulty that comes with MH is pretty artificial, such as events quests where monster hp and damage is buffed through the roof. Not many monsters have a legitimately difficult pattern to them and it's mostly damage and hp that keep monsters difficult. For example, the actual difficulty of rajang comes mainly from his damage.

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>tfw projared said flexing was stupid

>>180272556
It makes sense in the general WHY they are doing it but in the actual execution of things it makes me scratch my head

>Announce game in the West, clearly understood to be made for western audience
>Give more information in Japan where the game will recieve a PS4 only release when PS4 install base is really small incomparison to NA and EU

>>180272763
With the money they make off everything else they produce and license? I know people hate Capcom for this but they aren't going to go into bankruptcy overnight over this

>>180272998
That's him being launched by someone else.

>>180273103
XX gave you tools you could choose to use to make the game easier.

World is changing basic mechanics to make the game easier.

>>180273237
>I haven't played the game
>But I kinda know what it looks like
>So i know it's easy now

>>180273046
I don't have a problem, but this is wasted money on an otherwise HD monster hunter with revamped monsters and the core gameplay intact. It is a complete missed opportunity. They want to cash grab on casuals hoping to make up for the effort.

>mfw casuals will go play this thinking they are playing Skryim and became massively disappointed.

>>180273236
Probably so. That will explain the retarded animation.

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>>180273103
>b-but the last game was casual shit!
>lets make the next game even more casual shit!

welcome neo-nu-/mhg/

>Capcom
>A company well known for outsourcing their games and converting them into westernized trash
>People aren't allowed to be the least bit worried

>>180273237
So by that logic, it's okay if I just have a mode that instant kills the monster if it is optional. Most people are going to gravitate to what makes the game easier because they don't have to put in as much effort. The changes is world as of now, do not seem to lower the difficulty to a point where the combat in unenjoyable and non rewarding.

>>180273414
>/mhg/ actually has faith in capcom
makes me chuckle

>>180273414
>Worried
Nice memes.

>double cart
>abandon quest
The spent ammo was more expensive than the reward.

>>180273103
X/XX are the hardest games in the series if you play Guild and no Arts.

That ridiculous Stun window alone means that two hits from anything is certain death. I've had a monster step on me while turning around leading to a fucking Stun.

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>>180273414
>YUMYUM TEARS YOU NINTENDRONE THAT NEVER HAPP~

>>180273350
Eh, I feel like the difficulty in MHW is going to be in between gen and 4u. I enjoyed 4u but I times it just wasn't fun with how vanilla the combat felt. The changes in gen/xx were fun but removed a lot of the difficulty. Having a mix that keeps core combat and reduces the difficulty slightly by improving mobility I feel is a good mix of difficulty and fun

>>180273446
No, it's a false equivalence, since the tools XX gave you did not 'instakill' the monster, much like World does not allow you to 'instakill' the monster with changed game mechanics. It's no longer now a matter of gravitating towards what's easier since everything appears to be dumbed down, so we're not given a choice.

>where the combat is unenjoyable and unrewarding
We don't really know that as of now, either.

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/20015164.html

The japs loved the stream

I'm so fucking glad they finally changed the controls and movement for gunning.

Now it just looks like a sub par shooter, which is miles above what ever weird ass nonsense it was before.

>>180273756
>Third person shooter
or
>Turret simulator

>>180273607
>Developer for the best 2 games of the series: Capcom
>Developer for the worst one: Spark Unlimited

I know you're trying to draw comparisons but MHW is made by the people that have already done Monster Hunter games so this doesn't apply that much really.

[Use Street Fighter or an example that doesn't make me incredibly sad next time/spoiler]

>>180273554
At that point, it feels bullshit. If I'm getting stunned left and right eventually the effort I put in will not be worth the relief and I'll just come out irritated after hunting. I feel like the games are designed around the crazy anime styles avaliable and not using them is not how the game is meant to be played, take that as you will

>>180273728
>some people liked it

>>180273724
The equavilance I was trying to make was that just having a tool be optional does not defend it from being not acceptable. In my opinion, FU was the point where I felt the combat was unenjoyable and unrewarding due to the age of the game and imbalance of monster damage

>>180273890
X/XX is the only MH with difficulty modes. The styles are lined up in level of difficulty, with the hardest being to the left.

Guild is Hard mode. Striker is somewhat easier. Aerial is Normal and Bushido/Brave/Alchemy are all Easy mode. Think of it like Persona 5, are you really going to play Safe Mode and then complain the game is easier than the last one?

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So with the improved shooter control, the new weapon will most probably be a gunner weapon.

>it's a tutorial
Who else wants the game to come out just to shut these people up?

That's not a new weapon, it's just the kinsect for the insect glaive

>>180273875
Lost Planet wasn't good to begin with. The first one had the opportunity to come out in the early phase of last gen consoles, where competition wasn't that stiff.

>go to 2ch to see what their opinions are
>theyre even more petty with the namecalling than here

>>180274020
>I-IT'S JUST A TRAILER!
>I-IT'S JUST A DEMO!
>I-IT'S JUST A TUTORIAL!
>I-IT'S JUST A BETA!

Literally the second trailer for 4U showed that it was every bit as awesome as the other games. We're on the 4th showing it just keeps getting worse. Defend that.

>>180274013
>Guild is Hard mode. Striker is somewhat easier. Aerial is Normal and Bushido/Brave/Alchemy are all Easy mode
>I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about

>>180274069
Then they should've put it next to the weapon then, not with the other gunner weapons.

>>180274020
I want this to come out as a playable demo.

>>180274018
>Video quality is too low to read the name of the Bow-users armour
Fuuuuuuggg

>>180274069
Really? Why does it have it's own slot? unless it's just for swapping with ease. Is there any way to confirm it?

For what it's worth I think that all the new attacks I've seen so far such as the vertical spirit slash or the hamer crazy air flip thing are pretty cool and I like them a lot

If all new moves for other weapons are equally as cool I'm alright with this

>>180274142
>just keeps getting worse
your autism is getting worse

>>180274152
>When casuals post

Thanks for the (you)

>>180274220
Unrelated to the topic at hand

Shota Hunter mods when

>>180274305
>unrelated
disagree desu

>>180274013
The issue now is moreover to game philosophies where the main point of monster hunter is to improve as a hunter and the satisfaction of killing a difficult monster where I cannot speak for the purpose of persona 5, I do not think it is the reward and challenge of the games. Having those options avaliable will mean that some players don't have to improve because they have a crutch to rely on, it is harmful to the types of players that come as well

>Why are they doing [X]
Because Japanese people are fucking retarded subhumans. I'm not kidding, they have some of the shittiest taste possible.

>>180274460
Inside every nip there is an American waiting to be free

>>180274434
That's been the case ever since 3U brought in online mode though. The MH fanbase has consisted of 80% carried shitters ever since.

>>180274460
Well for people with such shit taste they sure made many of the best video games of all time

>>180274460
The more Japanese content I consume the less I like their over the top respect based mannerisms
No wonder they have birth problems

>>180274434
Okay, but then wouldn't you agree that the option to remove the things that would make you an arguably worse hunter is better than having them being a part of core gameplay?

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>/v/ is back

>>180274609
Literally looks like Gears of War now.

>>180274541
As is common, why make it worse. Not only can people be carried but they can use crutch gameplay mechanics to carry themselves to g rank. The same can be said for MHW, unfortunately, however, I this scenario I feel it is the lesser of two evils since the difficulty changes of worlds is much more minor than gen/xx

I want to hate MHW because Capcom betrayed Nintendo but it's getting harder to do so, it looks pretty good and I'd have to really nitpick about things to find anything worth hating on.

Even the walking by sipping pots thing doesn't seem as bad given that you can no longer "change" zones through magical walls to catch a breather or anything

>>180274653
I do agree to that sentiment, however I would rather not have them there even for how fun they are. Even if I can't turn off the changes in worlds, I am fine with it as it is not major difficulty changes compared to gen/xx and it to me, makes combat less irritating by reducing the times were I am hit due to flexing animations where I thought I was safe to heal.

>>180274768
only scrubs would need to change zone to heal
just pop a potion during a monster's attack animation

>>180274693
Nah, gears is a lot smoother.

But it's still a huge improvement over MH's gunner controls in past games.

>/mhg/ has had a passive dislike towards World for the past few days, but has had reasonable discussion
>demo footage comes out, more of the same shit we've seen
>console warriors, falseflaggers, shills, and shitposters all come out of nowhere
I honestly hope mods will start adding in IDs soon at least for a while, this is beginning to get ridiculous

>>180274861
>makes combat less irritating by reducing the times were I am hit due to flexing animations where I thought I was safe to heal
oh my god

>>180274901
That looks fun as fuck holy shit

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a best

>>180274990
/v/ moved in. Check out the threads there, just console baiting.

>>180274018
It's already been confirmed on twitter by Kogath that it is the Kinsect.

>>180274703
Could be the case, I pretty much abandoned the MH fanbase altogether after 3U brought in the cancer. What happens to MH in general bothers me a lot more than more shitters posting stupid comments online, and I just don't see MHW leaving a lasting impact.

Kind of funny when you realize that the people who paid money for MHFU, Tri and all that shit to show that MH has a place in the west are now the ones getting screwed by Capcom trying to move MH to the west. While killing a localization ANYWAY.

>>180275010
Wtf
Do you not see how he added retarded to the filename?

>>180274994
I understand that in this scenario it is my fault I was hit however, if I see what seems to be a safe zone after the monster is don't attacking and I have good distance between me and the monster and yet I still get hit due to the flexing animation, it rubs me the wrong way

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americans are waking up, abandon thread!

>>180275025
why is t-rex made out of concrete?

>>180274901
couldn't be more anime honestly.

I don't mind, because I never had any problem with that in X/XX, but some people will have to stop being dishonest around here.

>>180275138
why don't you git gud

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Just wake up, what's the verdict /mhg/

There is one negative I've seen so far that you can't deny: This game has mad clipping issues with monsters literally walking into each other or some walls in the map so hard they clip 30% of their body

>>180275162
I liked how MHO did it. Not too much anime but still the occasional insane move.

>>180275302
same as leak

>>180275302
Looks amazing. I am talking about your picture.

>>180275137
N-not really no
Watched again and still looked fun

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After all is said and done, i'm feeling good after that stream! It was fun skimming it looking for new stuff and I liked *most* of what I saw.

Now I just need to keep myself occupied until the game or a demo comes out.

My first MH was 4U, am I allowed to be excited for MHW?

>>180274901
>Be guy in blue square
>Spend the entire clip running after the monster

See? This shit is why I solo only.

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>can't criticize MHW without upsetting console warriors
>they celebrate the end of anime but it never actually left
so this is how MH threads die

>surely things will have settled down by now
nope, still shitposting beyond shitposting up in here

>>180275428
kind of

>>180275302
literally the worst game of all time

btw MH is my favorite franchise and I started in 4u

>>180275358
Yeah well hang around, we'll crush that shitty optimism out of you

>>180275112
I guess the icon does look the part

>>180273350
>even more casual shit!
>slowly moving while drinking a potion is more casual than not getting hit ever

welcome neo-nu-/mhg/

>>180275441
>saying anything even remotely critical of MHW means you are a shitposter from /v/

>>180275438
>Can't get excited for the game without upsetting tradition autists
>Can't defend my points without getting called a shill
Great.

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>>180274901

boy, landing that shit and knocking the living daylights out of the monster will be so satisfying

>>180275438
>it never left
lol

there is some shit but it's nowhere close to the garbage introduced in the last few games

>>180275530
Do your worst fagget. I'm a grandpa

>>180275438
>can't talk about MHW without being preached about how the sales will bomb by anti shills

>>180275302
My first MH was 2 and I think it looks good.

>>180275657
>still can't switch weapons without entering a zoned instance away from other players
Why does Hunter-kun need so much privacy?

I think MHW looks alright (though a bit heavy on the monster x monster and environmental traps, but I guess they just really wanted to show that off for the demo) but I would prefer to play it on the Switch so I have it both on the TV and a handheld at the same time.

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>>180275125
i cant believe you shit slurpers actually want XX ahaahahahahaha

>>180275302
It looks alright.

However, I really can't get behind their decision to remove blood splatter to replace it with rocks exploding everywhere.

>>180275778
Because tent animation is only for one person. Pretty obvious.

Post stream I fell asleep

>>180275661
>anti shills
moving on to a new game horizon-kun?

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>>180275302

my verdict is that Houtengeki is a god

>>180275839
At least we know that game is good and has content, with MHW it's still a gamble.
Plus MHW won't be out on the PC for a year anyway.

>>180275851

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33u8U_TQxj8

>>180274183
this >>180275112

>>180275618
the last few games also weren't mainline

>>180275839
HAHAHAHAHA no way, I pirated it months ago.

Capcom will never fuck me again.

>>180275661
I'm still trying to understand how anti-shill is a 'bad' term

Like, wouldn't you want to be against corporate greed and temptation?

>>180275302
>draw a mommy issues body then put a loli face on it
??

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>>180275949
I dont like how big the map is now. Your character runs very slow. Might get tedious.

>>180275928
>at least we know that game is good
even if the worst predictions by doomsayers are right, MHW is looking better than that shitshow

>>180276040
Yeah, like, what's in it for us? Are we being paid to badmouth a game that's 100% guaranteed to flop regardless?

Who should be paying us? Can I make money off of this?

>>180276040
Nobody here is an actual shill either. You are either for or against, for whatever reason.

>>180276154
I get 25 cents from Reggie for every anti-MHW/Sony post

>>180275997
im including the entire gen

>>180276040
The issue is that there is a huge backlash to people who actually like the looks of the game. It's not the ideal of "being against greed," its just shitting on people for not hating something as autistically as you do. "Shill" is such stupid shit anyway. You really fucking think Capcom is gonna pay people to astroturf on /vg/?

>>180276093
What do you mean, big? Looks tiny. Remember that the corridors are just transitional areas, or that labyrinth BS in the eternal forest.

>>180276224
in that case you're delusional because so far this is way more anime than 4U

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World aside, we can at least agree that MH has the best doujins, right?

>>180276210
I'm doing it for free
Nintendo deserves it after all they've done for me

>yfw MHW only has 3 maps (forest, desert and arctic) + arena map
>yfw only 16 monsters

>>180276274
There's more map off screen anon. The area number goes up to 16.

The guy that leaked MH world info said that they already started working on a switch game. If the old leak is true after all, this means it will be more of the core gameplay we are used to, while the rest of the platforms gets the casual experience

>>180276271
I guess, but in that case I'd just call them autists or whatever. People who actively resist corporate greed should be the norm.

I don't think any such thing is going on here, of course, it's just bizarre to see that word being thrown around as an insult.

>>180276294
Nowhere near enough

>>180275841
How do you know the dusty rocks effect isn't just the effect of hitting the ground/walls being used as a placeholder? Thats what seems logical to me. Is there a confirmation of no blood somewhere?

the best thing about dmg numbers is that all those gunner guides on youtube are extinct now, so no more Gaijin hunter shit

>>180276287
>so far this is more anime than 4u
le hue

>>180276317
I've been fucked by Nintendo, but since I dodged the WiiU, the 3DS left a few brownie points in their favor.

Now Sony is an entirely different matter. After playing a bit of Persona 5 and seeing the response to MHW I realize that they will gladly destroy the entire medium if it means them "winning" a perceived war of their own creation. They are currently #1 on my shitlist and must die, even if it means I have to denounce my PSP and PS2.

>>180276367
In which case I'll play both

>>180275778
maybe because he cant carry them all around and needs a storage for it ?

>>180276367
This guy?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=241122241&postcount=1616

How is he the one that leaked MH? It originated on 4chan.

>>180276416
Yes, they did say that blood splatter isn't "logical".

>>180276367
The guy on neogaf or whatever? He's not the leaker he just took it from someone else.

He was also wrong most of the time.

He's just an attention whore I wouldn't believe anything from him.

Team B is certainly working on something, though.

>Capcom always sell the improved expanded versions as whole new games
>The west hates that business practice
>MHW: G will be a complete disaster

>>180276497
Yeah but he still can't switch using a chest other players can see

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>>180276479
>denounce my PSP and PS2
>true golden age console
>in hindsight a "golden age" portable after the flop of vita

HEYYY WHOA WHOA WHOA RELAX THERE PAL

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>>180276390
Quality > Quantity my friend

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Armor name is Hunter
GS name is Agito

>>180276451
tell me my dear retard
what exactly was so anime about 4U that is no longer present here?