Dota 2 General - /d2g/

first for rotund'jere

TODAY IN DOTA (June 20th Edition)

>Birthdays

Miracle- is 20

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Why is Tobi deadgame posting so much?

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>>180234534
>participants
>peruANOs
>BRs
>gook team outta nowhere
And FUCKING ALLIANCE
IT WILL NEVER GET OLD

>>180235837
its not going to be lower than TI6, and the problems tobi talks about are only problems for production studios. problems with the game itself are a bigger problem.

>>180235837
This battlepass was designed to feed off whales with how ridiculous the levels/chest ratio is. What Valve didn't take account for is that there are many more 'normal' people than whales. There's thousands of people who'd buy 25 levels to get to the next chest. There's only a few hundred who will buy 1000 levels.

>>180236202
not sure bout you but every other game ive got someone with a level 1189 compendium

>>180236202
what do people mean when they say "whale", just a rich person? Is it thirdie vernacular?

>>180236202
>What Valve didn't take account for is that there are many more 'normal' people than whales.

the only thing valve hasnt accounted for yet is the fucking direct vacuum to your wallet when they release the bp sale

>>180236652
>bp sale

elaborate, pham

>>180236643
>>180236771
kya

>>180236643
How much of a newfag to vidya are you? Are you 10 or what? 'Whale' is a consumer who is willing to drop a shitload of money on your microtransaction shit. It's that guy at work that plays Clash of Clans and spends 1000$ on it despite it being a free game.

>>180235837
toby lost his job and thinks it's valves fault

PSG HERE

i'm just gonna leave this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_eMPSYrghM

>>180237412
this

>"valve is ruining dota because they're not giving out welfare/gibs to 3rd party organizers reee!!!"

If you're under 5k you should be able to carry every game with bloodseeker mid or safe lane. Hard to bully out of lane. Infinite sustain. Easy to duck into the jungle if need be. Doesn't been items to be effective early on. Farms incredibly with midas & radiance which can easily be obtained before 20 minutes.

Basically this hero trashes low skill and isn't bad at high skill either.

>>180237519
are his new custom animations with the hat dank, though?

the price of bs immortal waepons from 2 years ago doubled after the hat came out

>get motivated to raise mmr
>slowly climbing to upper parts of 5k
>realise I'll never run into any interesting players because it's on the SEA server
fuck

>>180237660
looks damn sick. his tongue distends and makes it look like hes a red mosquito 10/10 would pay 10 bucks to buy again

thoughts on purge's patreon which is getting him 1.5k a month?

anyone else get a desire to fap after playing qop or lina?
this shit makes nofap hard

>>180238065
I can earn it in two weeks lmao poorfag >>180238069

>>180238065
mans gotta make a living. especially when you flush 20k dollars down the toilet donating it to the loser OF the loser of the election

why does everyone hate bulba?

>>180238261
get out of here stalker

>>180238069
This was me years ago, now im fine.

>>180237519
The problem is that Bloodseeker is boring if you aren't emo or too retarded to play heroes that aren't agility carries.

Besides, it's much more fun to stomp in retard level games with heroes they rarely play against. Makes 'em feel ashamed.

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>RTZ is 8.8k MMR
hot damn

>>180238069
nofap is a placebo unless the only reason you wank is because you are too beta to gf

>>180238896
thats his smurf

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What pos 4/roaming support do I want to pick if I both want to win and have a bit of fun?

>>180239663
kunkka

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>>180238069
maybe

>>180239663
>fun

>>180239663
skywrath

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>>180238069
I WANT TO ____ LINA

>>180239663
phoenix desu

>>180239663
Earth Spirit.

>>180240451
be introduced to CM by

>some fuck on my team with a spanish name
>no hables ingles

sorry bucko volvo fixed that matchmaking scenario months ago i can smell your autistic english speaking ass from a mile away

He spent the entire game feeding 1v5 yelling GG and spoke perfect english by the end

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I'm a trenchtard, and I freely admit it, but I've been building urn on storm and a bunch of other casteresque mids lately, and it's been working out fairly well. Bottle/urn/treads, and just start going or kills.

Why is this a bad idea? Is it because it delays your farm for other items?

Keep in mind this is the trench. Nobody else buys an urn, and my farm is mediocre at best to begin with. Every time I focus on early/midgame stuff my games go a lot better.

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why havent we made any good meme pics about vp baiting Puppey in the draft?

>>180241017
Because bottle serves near enough to the same purpose.

>>180241017
Urn is not too bad if you have momentum in the game and a lot of kill potential with your draft. If your not getting kills at all it's a waste of 875 gold. For a mid hero that is really bad if you wasted farming time on failed ganks.

>>180240451
abduct

>>180241180
>/d2g/
>good memes

if we're being honest the ''remember when i kicked you`` thing was kinda funny

is there any hero more fucking fun than a storm spirit with orchid/bloodstone/linkens??? sometimes i go play dota imba or wtf just to see what kind of shit i can pull with storm

>>180241017
urn is ok but mana boots/soul ring help you farm the jungle like a fucking god

then you can disassemble your arcane boots and finish a bloodstone, but i prefer to go for orchid after soul ring/arcanes.

>>180240492
this lad

>>180241935
this, all the original memes come from reddit

>>180243053
why don't you and your kind get fucking back to there already then?

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IM GOING TO HUG AND SQUEEZE POTM UNTIL SHE POPS!!!!!!

>>180243614
Cute alien

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>>180244190
Dont bully POTM!

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Clockwerk is an amazing hero

>>180244337

>That recent nerf to his hookshot

Goddamit Icefrog. Just as I discovered my favorite hero to play as an offlaner and you fucking give him a slap to the face.

I know that is not that much of a nerf but fuck now hookshot feels underwhelming even at level 3

holy shit crystal maiden is a turboslut

>>180244435
More challenge in your life is never a bad thing

>make a smurf
>carrying 5k avg games every single game
>80 percent winrate with 40 games
>go back to main
>lost 1 5 0 0 mmr in a week
should i just uninstall

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what the fuck is this

>>180245198
youre not a big enough deal

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>no cat hero
dotards?

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>>180245935
>implying

>alchemist will never mindbreak you
Why live...

does valve use phone numbers for ranked for anything?
considering putting random numbers in my contacts on my smurfs so I can do ranked w/ them

>>180247041
they do a verification so that you cant smurf like that

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sheever died ;_;

>>180247596
rip the only acceptable dota girl
everyone pour one out for her

>>180247596
did Sheever not get invited to TI again?

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F

Can we make it so you have to link your dotabuff account to /d2g/ threads? That way you're only allowed to post if you're 5k MMR or more.

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prepare yourselves gulagites. in next patch fountain diving will be removed.

>>180241564
That's just it. It's the trench. Nobody has any map awareness. Kills are practically a guarantee if you buy smokes. And the sustain is just amazing because there aren't any rotations, so you can easily transition the picks into towers.

>>180242945
Yeah, I see arcane/ring being nice for bloodstone. I just feel like I can't commit to being that useless for so long because my farm is shit due to bad mechanics.

>>180247865
the sad thing is Valve might actually listen

>>180247885
you dont need that good of mechanics to farm with storm

just q the wave then aa, and repeat. same for jungle camps, just kite them back. and remember to stack camps if you have the chance to.

>>180247865
literally advocating for the creation of a safe-space

>>180241015
>Retard sven on my team
>constantly blinks in and blows bkb only to accomplish nothing
>teamfight about to go down
>(playing silencer) about to pop ult
>get blink hexed
>die
>sven dives into them with bkb down (ofc)
>he dies
>team gets fucking wiped
>"WTF SILENCER WHY DIDNT YOU ULT YOU RETARDED FAGGOT"
>hexed
>four man party so of course these just suck each other off
>they proceed to start feeding and throw the fucking match
>"HAHAHAHA GOT YOU SILENCER YOU RETARD"
You have it easy anon

Tip for you guys in US East. Don't queue US East with the peruvians. When I started queuing US West I started winning so many of my games. You should try it out.

WHY IS THIS GAME SUCH DOGSHIT

>>180247865
the ironic thing is that posts like these (and also other similar ones from lolbabs) is that they claim authority on what is "fun" or "anti-fun", and in that way eliminate all of the fun from the game. Is the fun of the fountain divers less important than the cucks sitting in fountain? The real reason they find it "anti-fun" is because its an indication that they lost, so if they wanna have fun, maybe they should stop being shit and win.

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who /feet/ here

>>180248401
Would her feet be really soft since she never touches the ground?

>>180248401
/legs/ and /feet/ yes

>>180247865
i swear to god this pisses me off so much if they do this

>>180236643
A whale is a sucker.
Whether they can afford to be or not is irrelevant, it's about spending habits, not financial status.

>>180248627
ive spent about 40$ and change on compendium, am i a whale?

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>>180248401
>>180248450
>>180248559
best feet reporting in!

>>180247596
What is that creature on the far right

>>180236916
>term popularized by shitty mobile games
>must be a newfag

Has SingSing registered his team for TI yet?

Is support morphling still viable? I wanna spam something that's really annoying.

>>180249676
1. SingSing
2. Adelaide
+3

>>180249703
Spam supp naga and go aghs octarine
It's like 1 sec uptime on net

>>180250048
but morph is unkillable and his stun has better range and also doesn't have garbage cast time

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how do i carry like my team does?
also first time clockwerk. Did I build it right for this match

waifufags are the worst posters in this general
closely followed by the /pol/ spammer(s)

>>180250659
You aren't supposed to get kills as a clockwerk, and by getting kills I mean actually getting the kill, you are an initiator/disablre, you have to pick the right hero to take away from a fight while your team focuses on the other heroes, or set up ganks early game/mid game. Clockwerk is really strong without items, so you don't really need farm and just go around look for enemies. Your build looks fine.

>>180250736
i agree
not samefagging

>>180250184
>load game
>"me support morph"
>no one else picks support
>stuck hard 5ing with morph, you get level 7 15 minutes in with brown boots and wand
>try to do epic 5 second stun on enemy with max str and no agi
>waveform for nuke damage
>die because you have no armor and no items

>>180250932
if you dont manage to somehow get midas by 15 mins as support morph you're totally fucked

>>180250932
>stuck hard 5ing with morph, you get level 7 15 minutes in with brown boots and wand

You already lost the game. You don't ever hard 5 with a morph, you are literally useless and bigger burden to your team.

>>180250932
I actually meant offlane morph and support as in "not core" with going eblade etc.

but ok, go in nuke diving as the support, dumb shitter

>>180250754
Well I was trying to hook timbersaw out of the fight everytime and I think that was working well. If he didn't get silenced shortly after he'd just jump out though. Anyway desu I think we would have lost if Tiny didn't take the Aegis both times.

Had lots of trouble early game against TImber. When I trapped him and used muh Q he'd outheal it quickly with his passive :c

>>180251073
check his passive before jumping unless you absolutely need to and don't auto attack while in cogs if he's not close to dying already

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>Delete the game in the evening calling it a quit for good
>Install the game next morning

When does it stop?

>>180251248
you don't have to take uninstall flame literally desu

Why is Arc Warden so strong, yet literally no one plays it? Is this a meme?

>>180250184
But it's not bkb piercing
Also with aghs song you can heal 70% of your team's health

>>180251532
Because he's hard to play well.

>inb4 some 3k shitter thinks he's playing him to his full potential

arc warden such a fun hero to watch, the way artour plays it at least

>shartoooour

>>180251651
neither is net and song? you can also bait out an am pick for an easy win

how do I get good at arc warden dotards, how many games in unranked do I need to spam him?

>>180251962
500

>>180251962
0, just play ranked

Is it even possible to play Templar Assassin without the overwhelming urge to fap?

>>180252195
>fapping to vidyapixels.

>>180251782
Net pierces bkb but is dispellable
Song doesn't go through bkb but can isolate the one who used it making the fight 5v1 and after the aghs you'll be using it just to heal your teammates mid fight

I'm thinking boosting trough 2k with pudge? What do you guys think? Just pudge spam.

>>180251234
Oh darn, I guess my auto attacking him in cog was it. Now I know for next time

>>180252618
have fun playing a lottery of whether your team follows up or not on low rankings

>>180252618
play like a man and random everytime

how the fuck is skywrath atos balanced? literally free mmr atm, even as a pos 4

>>180252618
Pudge is hit or miss
Go spirit breaker if you want to shit on pubs

>>180250659
>there are other 1ks on /d2g/
feels less retarded man

>>180253291
Skywrath is one of the most easily killed heroes, since has no HP or armor. He excels against squishy picks that need to use spells to avoid dying, but struggles if the enemy survives his wombo combo.

Any hero to spam in 2k mmr to raise mmr really fast? I need a safelaner, offlaner, support.

>>180253327
>tfw you placed at 2500 back when ranked started which would be like 5000 mmr today but everyone thinks youre a shitter

>>180253291
Eul's
Force
BKB
Linken's
Blademail
Glimmer

Any of those items and you're completely useless, also there's like 30 heroes at least that shit on him, the only thing SW is good at is laning phase, if you don't snowball hard you'll be worthless until the very late game when it suddenly becomes good again.

>>180253753
hit that random button son.

>>180247865
was reddit the one in charge of fountain on high ground?

HoN > Dota 2

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>>180253861

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>>180253964

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>>180253753

5k shit stain here

safelane : sven/slark
offlane : clock
support : dazzle

but desu i can pretty much win all my games when i play with my 2k friend even if he feeds the enemy like 5-7 kills

just random learn all heros

fuk remind me not to play on RUS server.

> void last pick when we have anti mage
>void goes safelane farms jungle creeps
>first item midas, brown boots, hyperstone in that order
>0-15 in the end of the game
>people report pudge because he missed a few hooks.

>>180253753
Viper in literally any situation will win every game in low mmr.

How does the Goypendium's weekly quest and daily hero rewards work? Do I get it when I finish the quest or when the quests refresh? Didn't really notice any change when I finished a game with the missions.

>>180238991
what if I'm doing nofap so I can have a really good fap session after?

>>180254927
when you finish

Why do people not play 'random'? That extra gold is amazing early game, literally wins you the lane.

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If Arc Warden is a bad hero, then spamming him to 4k doesn't make me a shitter?

>>180255095
>arc warden
>bad hero
I'll never understand this meme

>>180255095
aw is fine
that said I'd advise you to not feel guilty about spamming x hero to get to a higher mmr because you may as well go all out and play complete cancer because it'll get you there quicker

>eosin is posting on reddit now
I thought he was a big deal, what happened?

How is matchmaking fair when all I get is shitters, while enemy invoker does 4 combos my team can't even know their 1 hero 2 spells???? This game is utter trash about to delete.

>>180235565
what promocode do i use for +25 mmr

Anyone got bored of just hitting creeps and farming??? I ltireally play just pudge because hitting creeps and farming last hitting is so boring.

I don't know how anyone can take dota2 seriously, it's a team game, when the queue pops the game is already decided, you get good or bad teammates. I just don't know why people talk about mah skill.

Good hero to get through 3k?
Just start playing back again after 6 months. The game is unironically much more easier in the early 15 min now. However shit is quite random from 20 min and above I just went from 3.3k to 3.7k by spamming Troll/Lich/Centaur.
Now at average 3.8k games, I meet a lot of tryhards. I need some really good support that could scale into late game because retards cannot push. I did try Ogre and he is a quite good nuker but he is a melee hero. I occasionally do Zeus "support" because at low bracket, you can get away with it and transition into a core nuker later.

>>180256242
pls do a livecam when you fucking kill yourself

>>180256780
tb

>get in game
>guy in my team first picks jungle naga
>lose
This sure is a skill based game guys, you totally can win your games by yourself even if half the time you have people in your team actively trying to lose the game.

When will /ledit/ fuck off back to ledit with their non stop whine

>>180257162
jungle naga is more viable than half the trash people send into the jungle.
Just stack camps and and kill them with illusion Riptide.

>>180257428
would be viable if not for the fact that naga is pathetically weak right now. illusion radiance push doesn't work because of mirror image damage taken nerfs and radiance on illusions deals like 30.

So your illusions die in a few hits, feed gold, and can't kill shit.

>>180256242
Sure there are some games that are over when you get certain teammates or play against certain people, but many games are won or lost based upon YOUR decision making. If what you said was true, everyone would win 50% of their games and then everyone would be at the same mmr. Also, you can queue with other people you friendless autistic fuck.

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dead game

>>180238870
>bs is boring
>not having fun when you literally become the flash and just zip zap ala storm
u like le hardcore epik heroes like voker and es dont u

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>>180247596
I don't know what event this was, but i'd like to think matu wasn't even playing and just appeared because there was dota and alcohol

>>180251962
he really bad right now

source 70% winrate warden

>>180258437
>3.46mb
>463x260
as expected

>>180259684
51% in 4k
50% in 5k+

>>180259684
No, he's just balanced now.

>>180259738
>>180259741

im maybe a retard but i find carrying with qop and mirana easier.
i know hes good just takes too long to influence the games as earlier for like say lina qop mirana

Literally the only buff I want on arc is +5 ms

>>180260085
I want the same buff for terrorblade

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>>180259810
Yeah that's true, but other poster was right, he's very nearly balanced (maybe a bit weak). The reason why he feels weaker now is he needs more protection and coordination with his team. He's not very strong 15-25 minutes when other heroes start getting blinks and he needs time to get his items online, but from there he's just as scary, if not more so, than before with the lifesteal or wraith damage options. If you use the backpack properly he's one of the very best lategame heroes.

>>180260085
completely agree

I wish Valve made Arc into a gnoll or other animal creature, and not this fishbowl ayy lmao.

Hell, he could even be a hot girl or a loli

captcha central celf

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>>180260303

>>180260672
This is really fucking badly drawn, but the idea is good.

>>180260201
hes a range antimage that has no escape

team needs to play around his timings since hes very susceptible to smoke ganks

>>180260303

Its actually Ben 10

>>180258846
>u like le hardcore epik heroes like voker and es dont u
No, but I do like technical heroes where I can pull a useful strat out of my ass based on circumstances.

Bloodseeker just shamelessly exploits how stupid people are below 5k. There's no sport in that. It's like buying Atos on Pudge.

>>180260201
artour got +spark wraith damage in one game he played today instead of life steal, what situations do you see him wanting the +damage instead of lifesteal?
Also I want to start playing arc warden in my ranked games, I've played him some times in unranked to get a feel of him, I am low 3k, can I skip travels and go straight for a phase boots (then maelstrom) if I want to fight early with my team, or are boots of travel essential for farming fast with him with the tempest double?

>>180260989
Atos on Pudge is really good in some situations though. You see pro players get it too (most recently Lil at the Summit)

>>180261278
>I am low 3k
don't worry, 1 week of arc warden and you'll be high 3k

>>180261278
Don't buy phase ever, not worth it

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>be 1k retard
>queue normal because ranked sucks when you are retarded
>for some godforsaken reason, purple is 4k solo/party
>is most likely the highest on our team so we let him play sven mid
>goes against a core AA because peruvians
>is already sobbing about no support a few minutes in before anyone can rotate
>screeches in allchat after dying once after i come mid for a gank and leave when he changes his mind
>spends the next 30 minutes calling us retards and idle farming while the rest of us wreck the enemy team
>troll warlord i followed around and memed to death all game was easily 3x my solo MMR, despite him having a decent start
>4k sven says "haha peru ez" after we carry his ass

Is there any *actual* difference in skill 1-4k? And are 4ks usually this fucking salinated?

>>180235837
>valve hasn't released the immortal troves
>valve hasn't made a sale
>"hurr guise prize pool is going to be lower lol"

I like Toby and he's /ourguy/ but he's kinda retarded sometimes.

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>>180261436
hope im not being baited into tanking some mmr anon, good way to practice the hero though I guess

>>180235837
Here is one way: Make the fucking terrains not SEASONAL again.

Fuck Valve.

>>180261542
4K is the bracket with the most account buyers. But yes, there is a pretty significant difference normally.

t. 4K with 1K friends

>>180238870
>bs is boring
>doesn't like literally 1-hitting people with le epic dagon build

>>180261698
so am i just getting better at the game?
i can't tell for shit since i haven't played ranked in over a year

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what if
techies
>minefield sign regular skill now
>500-550-600-650 aoe
>slows enemies for 3-6-9-12%
>amps magic damage for 3-6-9-12%
>mines in the field can only be destroyed by enemies while inside the field
>max 1/2/2/3 signs at once
>max 1/2/2/3 charges, 1 charge regenerates every 2 minutes
>lasts 4 minutes
>untargetable, destroyable by enemies
>activation delay 5 seconds

>blastoff
>knocks enemies away from the landing zone by 100 units

>aghs
>blastoff pure and pierces immunity

>>180261939
Either that or (more likely) you're playing with account buyers as I said. Or they're throwing on purpose. 1K to 4K is actually a pretty huge difference in skill normally, even 3K to 4K is big.

>>180260201
Why did they fuck up Arc's design in DotA 2 so much? Is there anyone who likes the model? WC's Gnoll was so fucking cool.

>>180261542
yes
1k-4k is a linear gradient of game knowledge and ability to last hit and farm

>>180244435
>most banned hero in Summit

Nigga's going to get nerfed more.

He earned it desu.

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>>180262237
>Why did they fuck up Arc's design in DotA 2 so much? Is there anyone who likes the model? WC's Gnoll was so fucking cool.
*blocks your path*

"people" unironically want an aoe indicator for kunkka boat r u fuckning serious

>>180262402
Who are these "people"

>>180262402
It already has one after you cast it tho.

>>180262443
individuals that frequent reddit

>>180262443
"2k resdit shitters"

>>180262402
Don't we already have that?

>>180262237
Arc's has one of my favorite models in the game.

His animations are really great too.

>>180262359
They nailed BH, Nyx, TA, SD, fuck I will not deny that I liked it more as a Skeleton but Wraith King's design is pretty cool.

This is not a "muh nostalgia", AW's design is plain ugly.

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>can't stop saying "and?" and "for what?"

FUCK

>>180262237
>WC's Gnoll
Nah, they were garbage midget rats

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Armlet on Broodmama y/n?

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>>180262668
Perhaps?

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>>180262668
>armlet on agi

>>180262132
why would account buyers be playing unranked tho?

>>180262823
So they can show off their MMR without losing any.

Why do these shitstain sniper players go HAND OF MIDAS

>>180262402
literally why not though

>>180262785
Armlet is viable on a lot of AGI heroes, you 2k shitter. Brood even more so since she has shit base stats, an early power spike and a huge source of lifesteal.

>>180262851
apparently that failed since the one that had third party data available is 2.8k now

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>>180262934
>you 2k shitter

>>180262851
>be account buyer
>won't admit it to myself but deep inside I know I don't belog up here
>cope by playing unranked
>game loads
>"Hey guys, I'm 4.5k MMR! haha"
>everyone else in the game is as well
?

>>180262823
To call everyone 2k shitters in unranked

>>180263004
>everyone else in the game is as well
That's not often the case though. Especially if the guy plays a bunch of unranked, his hidden MMR will fall off pretty quickly and he'll be playing with 1K-2K players despite having a 4K solo ranked MMR. Then he can pretend to be hot shit while playing with other shitters.

>>180261278
lifesteal is only worthwhile if you're forced to engage in fights with your main hero in risky situations. it's usually your only saviour from being doomed too.

+damage is much more preferable since it makes zoning with wraiths significant again and lets you do far more with your main hero at long range. Ideally arc warden barely ever puts himself in situations where lifesteal makes the difference between life and death

>>180262978
you can tell how shit someone is by the insults they use
if someone calls you a 2k hes likely to be 3k, if someone calls you 3k hes 4K etc

>>180262785
armlet has ridiculous value if you can sustain health loss, even if you not str carry you lose like 15% of it benefits which is still more than any 2k item can give you

>>180263198
Shut up fucking 8K shitter, let me mid

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>>180259103
Matu is my kind of guy

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gamely blog update
played kotl first time.

>>180263358
>drink before match start
i never understand how the fuck he win games

>>180263523
Don't know about Matu but I've played Dota drunk or tipsy for so long I can no longer play as well when I'm completely sober.

>>180263607
>>180263523
Anytime i try to play with a drink in me, i guess get annoyed

>>180263383
>1300 bracket

How in the fuck did you get there mate

>>180263175
I agree that lifesteal isn't very useful for fighting if you're playing Arc, but I personally prefer it because if you have mana regen, you will literally never need to go back to fountain. The sheer pressure Arc can put on a team is immense.

why is rubberband so retarded? i was playing against a huskar. my team gets the fb, then i kill him 1v1 then die to burning spear.
i get 130 golds, he gets 300.
mind you all happened within first 3 minutes, so nw difference cant be that big

>>180263523
Alcohol in low doses calms your nerves, it's a pretty effective anti-anxiety drug, which is why so many people abuse it

>>180261542
yeah
i can notice difference in like 700 mmr ,3k is like 2 different dimensions.

there are of course retards in 4k, and people having bad games/being tilted but in general, the higher you are in mmr, less stupid shit you do, that you even don't know right now you are doing.

like, maybe he didn't change his mind to gank aa but saw it as opportunity to feed and waited for a better position
and desu, if you are already wrecking them, why wouldn't he farm and secure you victory? you get more gold by farming

>>180263523
I play better after a few beers.

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*gets picked on your team*
*blinks behind you*
*stabs you right in the mmr*
*feeds and then you lose*

Heh,
Nothing Personnel, Kid

>>180264134
yeah, i relax more while sipping beer when i play, i'm happier and tilt less

>>180264172
Are you talking about no jungle? If ia that so i can agree with your meme, butbif is a no offlane with boots, than you are absolutelly wrong

>>180263949
>like, maybe he didn't change his mind to gank aa but saw it as opportunity to feed and waited for a better position
not really, we had a lot of vision and there was nothing his team could do to help. i waited for troll to fuck off to the jungle and almost had him down before sven just wandered off
not even mad desu since i got the gold for killing AA later
>and desu, if you are already wrecking them, why wouldn't he farm and secure you victory? you get more gold by farming
he barely did anything the whole game, just whined like a faggot. our fucking autism carry enchantress had more net worth and she was constantly helping

>>180264134
>>180264248
I find that I play more aggressive which sometimes works out if I'm playing a dominant hero like TA, QoP or Ursa. I do throwy shit more but I also pressure more and that can be game winning.

What is the point of Spiderites? Their damage is shit, their survivabiliy is shit to the point where they can die to some low level nukes, and they feed insane amounts of gold. One could argue they're decent cannon fodder for towers but the cooldown on Spawn Spiderlings is low enough that you don't really Spiderites for that.

Frog should just remove them and change Spiderlings to compensate.

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>>180264316
>get blades of attack and a faerie fire
>go offlane
>spend the next five minutes bopping enemies in the face from 600 units away until they have to go back to fountain
>mfw the allchat flaming

>>180263383
by sucking cock at the game
kotl was fun btw

>no recycler this year
I JUST WANT TO REMOVE MY DUPES FUCK YOU VALVE

>>180261542
>be 4.5k
>play international ranked
>every time i get 6k players in my team i lose
abandon your hope if you think it gets better

>>180264460
The extra damage that they can do to towers eventually adds up and guarantees that they go down extremely fast. You should never pick Brood into a team that can easily kill your babbies anyway.

>>180264479
>killing the mages with your treants
>harassing cuckports from the lane with literall buff walking trees

>>180264535

you can recycle shit from Immortal Treasures for BP levels

>>180239663
pudge and clockwerk

>>180264571
>abandon your hope if you think it gets better
that was actually an optimistic question.
being able to do what i want and shit on people is why i enjoy playing this game

>>180264586
Brood doesn't really care about taking towers fast because she generally commits to a single lane and can easily reassemble her army if enemies try to defend their towers.

>You should never pick Brood into a team that can easily kill your babbies anyway
They have 0% magic resistance and 175 health. They literally die to most level 2/3 aoe nukes in the game. I wouldn't have a problem with that if I could give them a control group, throw them in the jungle and just keep Spiderlings around, but alas we don't have the technology.

>>180264768
>I wouldn't have a problem with that if I could give them a control group, throw them in the jungle and just keep Spiderlings around, but alas we don't have the technology.
You can do that though

>>180264768
>>180264460
I remember reading some tip on reddit how to make spiderites fuck off with control groups but I don't remember now

>>180264768
>Brood doesn't really care about taking towers fast because she generally commits to a single lane and can easily reassemble her army if enemies try to defend their towers.
Sure, but if you CAN, then you should take advantage of any lack of defense on the enemy's part. Pushing highground at ten minutes is a great way to make space, and more importantly, triggers retards that don't know how to draft.
>They have 0% magic resistance and 175 health. They literally die to most level 2/3 aoe nukes in the game. I wouldn't have a problem with that if I could give them a control group, throw them in the jungle and just keep Spiderlings around, but alas we don't have the technology.
Not a bad idea, but Spiderlings die easily to AoE as well. Brood is arguably the most situational hero in the game.

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>being in a 4.3k mmr average ranked
>all the 3ks picks cores

How do people manage to play so many games on daily basis even while assuming you have a lot of free time? Every time i play game longer than 30 minutes i have to take a 5-15 minute break to cool down or otherwise im gonna tilt
the people this game puts into your team make game experience unbearable, is muting everyone the only way to have semi normal experience?

>>180264962
I just don't get mad.

What are differences between US east and west? Which one is better?

>>180264962
I feel the same, I can't play shitloads of solo games a day. I think it's related to the way different people expend energy. Being in a party with friends makes it bearable though.

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Was it winnable?

>>180264981
My ward bitch on the right

dotabuff should disable hero leaderboards, since half of the top 1s are abusers that queue up in parties. guides provide better insight on heroes anyway

>>180265159
i dont like qop build
you either go full autoatacks or full ebin nuke build

>>180264962
I mostly play unranked since everyone in ranked takes the game too seriously, and internally it's the same shit without visible numbers.

>rumours are after apparently getting kicked off Alliance by the NiPstack, Loda is now gonna put together a new swestack in the OQ
jesus christ

>>180265348
Apart from replacing veil what makes you say it's not a full right click qop build?

>>180265496
Someone post a recent picture of Loda, I bet it is even more JUST than I can imagine

>>180265496
>recruit a bunch of NiP-shitters to the team you own
>they kick you

JUST

>>180265496
I like to think Loda is PSG levels of delusional

>>180265691
About the same skill level too
Just kidding, PSG is pathetically bad

>>180265496
alliance themselves are going through OQ too since they broke roster lock

>octarine and memeback introduced, allowing illusion autism
OG becomes the "best" team

>illusion autism and memeback nerfed
OG headed for another 14th place finish

Is this the most 1 strat team in history?

>>180265159
monkey king looks like a deadweight.

I find it very hard to push lategame vs invoker, that tornado cd reduction is op as fuck at clearing lanes.

>>180248687
Nah. You're dumb for supporting Dota in its current state, but you're not a whale. Whales typically blow hundreds of dollars, sometimes reaching into the thousands.

How much money do you schmucks put into these battle passes?

>>180257962
Of course the problem is that Naga is a shit hero.
But you can jungle her fairly effectively if your fingers are fast enough.

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>>180265945
$10

>>180241017
only baddies build bottle
if you play well you won't need it

>>180265837
>most succesful Dota team in history is a 1 strat team
nice game doturds
>>180265915
>monkey king looks like a deadweight.
His main contribution was feeding and trying to flame in broken english

>>180265945
I bought the 75 lvl bundle, hit like 155 with just quests. Bought 11 levels afterwards, but that's so I could get double treasures in slutbreaker, so it paid off and made me some steambucks even. I'll probably buy the 50 level bundle when it comes out too.

>>180266032
>most successful
>still never lifted an aegis
stop posting h0neylans

>>180266067
So how much money?

>>180265837
what
those were introduced half year before OG was even created and year and half before they started to rely on that strat heavily
have a (You)

>>180265975
Naga is a shit carry, but support Naga is getting better in recent patches imo. Those nets are absolute bullshit against the right lineup.

>>180264912
>Spiderlings die easily to AoE as well
They have 450HP tho. Very few AoE spells can reach that damage.

>>180266140
And aghs ult is best spell to reset fights in game
Totally shits on heavy initiation and wombo combo teams

>>180266140
Yeah, but you won't jungle with support naga.
You need max riptide to clear camps effectively.

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>>180266136
>and year and half before they started to rely on that strat heavily
uhhh

>enemy has storm spirit
>IMMORTALITYYYY IS MINE
is this the sign you lose the game

>>180266262
>>180266140
>a carry is shitty/undertuned compared to others
>"run them as support, it's really good I promise"
oh that's the fucking rallying cry of shit-hero lovers
she's shit regardless

>>180266113
Spent 39€, got 24,33€ from rewards
Keep in mind that I didn't even spend any real money on this. I used to shark items in TF2 as a hobby in like 2011-2014, I don't think I ever added funds to my wallet since.
And after sharking died I've been juggling money by buying a bunch of a hat that I think will become expensive (like the alch radiances when they were 10€ a piece). I don't spend any money at all and all the hats are just mini games, per say.

>>180266291
so they picked tb twice over 16 games.. luna once..jugg twice..
did you have some kind of point...?

is there a bigger noob trap / honey pot item than hurricane pike on TA?

>>180266365
>hero was once a carry and needs to stay there eternaly
Should we also ban people who play naga as supp since you want this game to turn into lol?

>>180266507
I've been making pike on TA, explain

>>180265945
Paid $10 only for Siltbreaker, got bamboozled like everyone else. Never giving Dota 2 my money ever again, no matter what my stupid asshole friends say.

>>180266284
Sure, I meant as lane support since Naga is always horrible as a core these days.

>>180266365
Naga has always been a support hero, you retard.

>>180266446
>need illusions based siege to get ahead every series
>t-they were not abusing a strat iii-i swear
what's your next excuse bich boi

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>>180266507
It's pretty good against some line ups.

>>180266558
>he sucks at slutbreaker
lol...

>>180266579
>party
am I supposed to be impressed

>>180266524
>Should we also ban people who play naga as supp
no you stupid assclown
I'm not saying that shit at all
I'm saying don't play heroes who are shit
if a hero is currently bad, just running them in another role isn't the answer
the answer is to fucking play heroes who are better suited for the role and actually contribute to your goddamn team

>>180266641
No, although I don't know what being in a party has to do with it.

>>180266579
>getting carried in 5-stacks proves a bad item choice is worth it

Oh, shut up.

>>180266567
>jugg is illusion based siege
>pl is illusion based siege
>using strong strats is bad because??
ill never understand the stupid hate around OG

>d2g unironically thinks that illusion strats are "unfair :((((" but will cheer when a pa skillfully one shots a team they dont like
nice

>>180266776
I'm the highest MMR in our stack, but that's beside the point. I just posted the pic as "proof" that I'm winning with it but you can feel free to ignore it if it makes you feel lonely and sad.

The point is, Pike is situationally really good on TA. Definitely not an every game kind of item, but the extra mobility is completely necessary some times.

>>180266696
You sound like a 1k that only plays hard carries. Very few heroes are actually useless like PL, understanding why heroes are shit is important when deciding where their benefits are actually worthwhile, and Naga has been recognized as an effective pos4 for a long time.

It's simply not that popular to run her as a support because the illusion meta left a lasting impression on the community and a lot of people haven't moved past it yet.

>>180266291
they won frankfurt and manila before memesieging became a thing, also their alch in frankfurt used battle build (and every other team used manta radiance build, it just started to be a thing back then)
and two other games happened year and a half after octarine so that doesn't contradict my point
i don't like OG much, but come on

>not playing Abaddon in stun/push comps for free MMR

>>180266507
It's basically bad blink dagger at twice the cost.

>>180266813
>>180266813
>spamming diffusal manta illusions on jugg to siege isn't abuse
>pl isn't an illusion based hero
nothing wrong with using strong tactics to win, just be prepared to get called out for being a one trick pony when that's all you are

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>>180266696
i see a fat nerd getting emotional over internet video game arguing

>>180266998
>spamming illusions to siege is abuse
like lmao dude just pick lion like dude just one shit the illus dude
and no pl post rework is not an illusion siege hero

>>180266982
>not buying both
but but but muh damage! :(
>letting games go past 30 min

>>180266818
There was literally 0 risks involved in illusion-based strats. You could just keep chipping away at towers with illusions and there was nothing the enemy team could do about it. The fact that PA is completely RNG based is a risk in itself.

>>180266982
And if you get it in addition to a blink dagger it's almost like having two blinks. Which is pretty damn useful when you're against a really mobile team and aren't lacking in damage. Or if there are specific spells you need to dodge. For example, playing against a Sniper-Centaur combo you kind of need the mobility or Sniper will just run away after you jump on him.

>dota 1 is still stuck in the troll warlord memeback patch


i feel bad for our dota 1 purgatory poorfag bros

How to choose if you should play Naga:
1) Play Naga if you know your teammates and communicate properly. You can be instrumental in ganks and teamfights.
2) Play Naga if your teammates are a rude 4man who demand you play a support, and you really want to shit up their ganks and teamfights for your own amusement.

>>180267281
are there still people who willingly play dota 1 over dota 2? must be some extreme blizzfags

>>180266563
she was always a carry, she only became a support after TI2 when she got dumpstered, then after TI3 people started playing radiance Naga more

>>180267326
its a bunch of poor slavs who cant run dota 2

>>180267301
>rude 4man who demand you play a support
enjoy those 4 reports on your account

>>180266507
Biggest honey pot is a ta with blink deso boots hurricane crit bkb at 40 minutes where half your items are early-mid game and your out of slots so you either have to sell your shit or lose because you have no late game items.

>>180267358
There is a difference between a viable hero and a flavor-of-the-month hero. The pro meta doesn't work like in pubs, regardless of skill level, you'll look like an autismo if you spam, say, support Slardar for muh ez mmr.

>>180267505
You should win by that point.

wow, I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that a bernie sanders supporter is begging for gibs on the internet and won't get a real job.
god I fucking hate purge.

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When does the cuckfrog nerf Ursa?
>free 1200gold item at level 10
>build in 80% reduction ult
>can do rosh whenever he wants
>Fury Swipes is literally the most op passive in the game have fun lane against this faggot
>does not need many items
>one of the best talent trees
>has been buffed in nearly ever patch

WHY?

>>180267482
It's a 4man team who are demanding that you play the role they don't want to play. They're all going to report you anyway, anon, so you may as well give them a good reason for it (and have some fun doing it).

>>180267615
ursa is "really really really bad sven"

>>180267615
You're making Ursa sound stronger than he really is; he's a one trick pony and the most easily kited hero in the game. Killing Rosh is the one thing he really excels at.
A skilled Veno is enough to make an Ursa player ragequit.

>>180267592
>Purge
OH THE SILENCE
OH THE BKB
OH THE STUNS
OH THE [insert ult here]
genuine worst caster NA
worse than badly-mic'd streamjockeys who "just cast for fun"

>>180267687
>bad sven
>only needs blink and vlads and he can rape

>>180267704
>picking veno in this meta

lmao have fun.

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>>180267592
>>180267774
>they aren't purgegamers

>>180267802
>picking veno in this meta
if rtz can make it work why cant you anon

>>180267774
>>180267592
Always funny to see 3k shitters hating on the best dota husbando

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this thread is moving way too fast for a dead game cease posting posthaste

>>180267802
>>picking veno in this meta
Is that... bad? He's not great but he works fine.

>>180268002
nobody is hating on burning...

>>180267802
>picking veno in this meta
What? Literally lvl 12 while everybody on the GAME is 8~9, jungling veno is where the free mmr is my 2k shiter friend

>>180267592
>randomly bringing in politics
i can go bring up the dumb bitch who wanted crowdfunding for her insurance since it'll get taken away by the trumpcare bill she so rampantly supported but thats unrelated to dota so i dont see why you're bringing that up :)

>>180268002
>a literal libcuck
>best dota husbando
stop posting purge

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So is this going to be the patch that TI is played on? Because it has a couple of problems.

>>180268136
theres not a single good dota personality that supports your orange ape unironically
unless you count zai who listens to police recordings for "fun" a respectable person

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>>180268031
>>180267945
veno is fucking shit
>but le RTZXD

kill yourself Ursa picker scum
>the same retards who defended storm and lesh meta
>the same retards who defended Troll and sniper skadi meta
>the same retards who defended lycan meta
>the same retards who defended meme push
>now the same retards defend strength meta and ursa

>>180268136
Who cares if he's a libtard, he's still knowledgeable and honest about the game.

Most of the MAGA/"Kekistani" named players in my games are colossal feeding retards.

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>>180268136
>muh politics