/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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last for enb STILL hasn't played the ringed city

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Decent name for a Irithyll knight. Male or female suggestions

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>>180122256
My current intention was to get to SL150 to match a friend I typically played with, but I'm still getting decent amounts of invasions and summoning.

I don't even feel as though the amount of poise I run with is the problem, I simply can't take advantage of it because it doesn't activate in time. Yhorm's Greataxe felt faster in landing hits.

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>>180122965
>>180122864

spell buff for reference

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>>180123094
Lol and he never will.

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Can I fit a GS of Judgement on a DEX/INT Friede build? How necessary is it to have 27 STR?

The difference between 18 and 27 STR is ~30 AR. How much more damage would that translate into?

Also note that I don't necessarily intend to run both weapons at the same time. That won't be my actual armor.

asking over here cause I had bad timing. does anyone have a spare gundyr's halberd on pc?

>>180123148
Well your build isnt exactly optimized for damage, but it's not terrible. And you say you're using the LKUGS? With what infusion?

Why the 25 Dex?

>he doesn't use curved greatswords to shit on passive players with your subpar speed and very parriable attacks

weird how emma is the shrine handmaiden

>>180123394
ask Charlie Edwards, he should have one

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Just started a pyromancy warrior character. Just wondering what would be a fun, novel weapon to use for a build like this?

>>180123136
Cryomancer Perth
Lady/Sir Auron/Aurora
Lost Irithyllian

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>2 out of every 3 people are using CE

wow so much fun

so can we safely assume that the shithole that is PVP will never be fixed/cleansed?

>>180123532
fiiiine

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>>180122864
what is the best boss theme from each game?

>>180123670
Item swap is 100% safe for weapons/armor/rings, even online.

>>180123619
How do you know dis

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>>180123148
>this build

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Is it safe to resurrect an NPC with CE in DS3?
Seigward died on me to a fucking Machete fag in 3 hits.

>>180123421
Lightning LKGS and that's 25 Str and 18 Dex.

I honestly don't want to ditch the LKGS and enjoy the use of miracles immensely to really ditch faith.

>>180123801
It's not

>>180123136
Any ancient celtic name fits well imo anon, you might want to look up some
sauce me up on this, I forgot the artist name again

>>180123383
Keep in mind that Friede's doesn't actually benefit from the extra Int unless you're using the L2R1s, the Magical damage only applies to the off-hand support scythe.

That being said, those 40 points of Int are somewhat wasted because of your shitty Attunement and not hitting 60 Int (on top of your biggest spell requiring only 23 Int). It's kind of impossible to do that at SL120 on a hybrid build anyways, at least not without shaving a generous amount of points from Vigor and Endurance (you don't really need that much unless you're using a greatshield or ultra weapon anyways).

>>180123394
I'm not really feeling like doing this since I already helped another guy earlier today and I haven't eaten lunch yet. Maybe I'll help you out once I've eaten.

>>180124016
so how come I'm doing this since day 1 and I wasn't penalized once?

>>180122864
What is it about Dark Souls PvP that creates so much Salt?
I got like 30 hatemails in the last 4 weeks, I played many online Games but never got this amount of hate like in Souls.

>>180123895
I'm sure you can live without that last Siegrau

>>180124153
Got lucky. I got invalid data flagged on two of my accounts for that shit while I was dicking around testing what would get me banned or not.

>>180124070
Scas, his tumblr has most of the darksouls works he's done. I'm not sure if he's missing any when compared to KrekKov.

>>180123383
Taking 9 points out of that build for more GSoJ AR isn't worth it unless you want to switch to using GSoJ as your primary weapon. Actually it probably isn't worth it either way.
Dex/Int gets to use Aquamarine, that's probably a better investment than adding another slow HA weapon which struggles to play aggressively.

>>180123746
Adjudicator
Four Kings
Fume Knight
didn't play bloodborne
Twin Princes

>>180124168
Something about the game's mechanics itself fucks with people. For example, a good portion of the game is you getting stunned by something and not being able to react against it until afterward. That's frustrating. Also, that big YOU DIED or YOU LOSE thing that pops up in the arena is like added salt to the wound.

>>180124168
Souls players in general seem to have over inflated senses of how good they are at video games due to >le hard game meme

This makes their egos extra fragile.

It's funny because DS3 PvP is like over 50% luck and reading your opponent. Skill has very little to do with it.

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>Try low level pvp
>It's just filled with fags with dark hand and spamming parry
how did I dare to expect to have fun

>>180124195
Im starting a new game. That was bullshit.

It was undead settlement too.

>>180124596
Only DaS2 babbies and later. People that played DeS or DaS1 before the PC release remember the "tough but fair" motto.

>>180124006
How the hell did you get these stats and end up at SL134?

>>180124256
>I got banned for being a retard and not knowing what to spawn

>Waits to hear more about how CGS's punish passive play.

>>180124725
Don't forget the Lightning Resin buffed Raw DSAs, or the Borthammers.

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>>180124006
>>180123148
Well here's a bit more optimized build that doesnt require a stat ring. Assuming you have 45 Fai so you can use Lightning storm.

>>180123895
Unless you got someone to mule you your shit, just restart your character. Takes less than an hour to reach Und*** Settlement.

How did that happen, by the way? Don't those machete guys not enter the elevator church? You probably shouldn't have just run past them anyways.

Also, fuck this bugged quick reply window, stop inserting line breaks at random and fucking up my replies.

>>180124725
Just be cautious around them and bait them into attacking.

They have their heads so far up their own asses that they won't expect a "new" player actually fighting them well.

>>180124725
High level PvP is the same except that instead of riposting with the Dark Hand they riposte with ultras.

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Jesus Christ, just defated Pontiff on SL 1, ended up taking 0 hits, this thing is awesome, why have I never thought of doing SL 1 run earlier.

>>180123383
If you are still on I can spare you one (do you want it as a level 5 or just unleveled)

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I really wish the Spear of the Church wasn't such a pain in the tits to join.

And that the rewards for doing well in it were actually worth a damn outside of the covenant.

>>180123383
fuck replied to the wrong guy my bad
>>180123394
I can spare you one if you are still on. Level 5 or do you want it vanilla

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>>180124819
Shit, forgot to mention I had the Priestess Ring on.

>>180125045
Eh appreciate it, but at this point, stat differences aren't gonna help all that much. It's just a matter of figuring out how to actually fucking land a hit in this reactive infested meta.

>>180124850
>I got banned testing things
>This makes me a retard

One of those accounts only spawned a greataxe and some lothric knight armour famalam

It's not hard to use family share accounts if you get banned anyway. Who gives a shit. Oh no I was mildly inconvenienced.

>>180125432
Becoming a Divine Spear is almost guaranteeing you to kiss Shira

>>180124168
>What is it about Dark Souls PvP that creates so much Salt?

>Short answer:

Environment and lag always has a bigger impact than your own strategy. Because of the wealth of information you have to internalize, it's very hard to tell if you were outplayed or if the other player just got lucky. That creates a sense of unfairness.

>Long Answer:

Circumstances > Strategy in souls. The damage / health ratios mean that one or two mistakes or wrong hits can cause you to die at any point, so even if you have great skill and strategy, the other player can clip you with one extra hit and kill you, or some mob can catch you from outside the camera.

PvE focused balance means that there are lots of DLC and late game weapons, rings, and items that are universally better than early game ones, further aggravating the "it's not strategy it's just that you're twinking" anger. The high levels of customization also obscure the ability to form a strategy, since often times straightforward strategies won't work in reality. Having multiple phantoms also diminishes the effect of your own strategy, and losing often feels like the product of the environment instead. All the effort in making an optimal build is wasted due to simply facing two enemies at once.

Compare this to fighting games, where every player knows every other characters exact moveset and tier list and counters. The wealth of knowledge is narrow enough that when someone does pull off a unique move or something new, it's a huge occassion and you feel outplayed. In Souls, it's *impossible to tell between a brilliant strategy or a dumbshit getting lucky* Because of the anonymous nature of souls interactions also, it's often hard to tell if you're fighting someone who actually knows what they're doing vs someone who got lucky, especially in invasions.

>>180125159
I had a bunch of them follow me in when I first ended up talking to him and died before I had a chance to talk to him. Thankfully he was still there when I returned since I heard he disappears if you don't talk to him the first time you see him.

>>180124743
It started with prepare to die you dumbshit

>>180125682
>implying I want to kiss a gril who locked themselves inside an old musty shrine for god knows how long and probably hasn't bathed in ages

>>180125159
Yeah the machete guys run into the church, I tried to get them to fall down the hole but no dice, I panicked and rolled away.
They got stuck next to Siegward and kept fucking swinging their shit around.
He died after like 4 hits, so fuck it, im restarting due to that BS.

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Am I crazy for wanting a triple phase Sister Friede style fight against Halflight?

>>180125178
I noticed this. I could outmaneuver their parries for a while but I eventually get caught in that since I'm just not good enough

>>180125872
THAT'S THE BEST PART

>>180125872
she's so lonely and cute anon, don't be picky.
also she can get out otherwise there wouldn't be a summon sign for Midir

>>180126042
Yes.
At least Halflight would be 100x less edgy.

Unless he suddenly grows winbgs and turns into some kind of flamboyant Valkyrie

>>180126337
I just want to fight him for longer than 10 fucking seconds because his health bar is that small and his attacks don't do shit.

>>180125872
I'm sure the smell can't be worse than half the areas in Dark Souls.

Undead Settlement must smell like pure rotting pussy, same with Farron Keep.

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>>180126298
>no shira and ashen one fics at all since Ringed city released.
>forever doomed with this fanbase that only likes futa garbage and scalie shit...
>mfw

>>180126606
There's a Shira and Filianore fic my dude.

>>180126337
>tfw fair looking long-haired man
>all my characters are self inserts
>never matters because I always wear a helmet
>find antiquated plain set, love it, change into it right away
>get to halflight
>it's a fucking mirror match

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>>180126694
>yuri

>>180126694
>lesbian garbage on Archive of own by a woman that won't upload since she grew up and raised a business/is trying.
yeah naw, it's okay but I don't like lesbian stuff.

>Invade the same guy three times in a row
>Curbstomp him the first two times
>Feel bad and play much worse the third time so that he can win

>>180126742
post pics

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>>180126878
>>180126897
infidels

>>180126742
People really need to do more mirror matches to be honest.
They always sound fun, and the idea is rather humorous in itself.

>>180126878
>>180126897
I refuse to trust """straight""" men who are not into lesbians.

>>180127021
>getting out of the yuri board
You have to Go back!

>>180127116
Don't get me wrong, I like a good tribadism as much as the next guy...
But I much prefer straight stuff.

>>180127029
>boss entirely based around mimicking your current character
>will even change equipment should you change it out
>guardian covenant even based around it

I really wish covenant gimmicks were more ambitious.

Does anyone know if the sacred shime of filianore beats out priests chime at 40 fai?

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>>180127180
I never left, sister. Ever heard of tabs?

>invade AFK host
>Spend an hour dumpstering blues instead

My god, curiosity is going to kill you kittens

>>180127292
So basically Shadow Link in Dark Souls?

I like it.
[spoiler}It'd be better if it had a second phase where it turns into a huge monster designed to best defend against your current playstyle.

>>180124596
>>180124543
continuing >>180125730

Souls is not a pvp game, it's clearly not designed around rewarding players for successfully understanding the game and executing a strategy, and DS3 is the worst at this. From deliberately implements a lot of mechanisms designed to obscure the effectiveness of strategies and make it seem confusing about whether you were outplayed, or exploited or cheated against.

Compare souls to Armored Core V / Verdict day or Chromehounds (which are From's only pvp-focused games).

In those games all players get most / all the equipment right away, and instead of leveling up, you are allowed to save multiple builds and load them (and even tweak them before each fight to adapt to the specific map and player). This vastly reduces the environmental effect since you have control over exactly what your loadout is before each map. You also can see all the enemies on the map before you begin.

On top of that, player character and builds are ranked publicly and displayed and easy to see after you lose so that you can keep up to date with the meta and learn what strategies work best. There's also no healing and player health is high enough that it takes significant planning and strategy to kill someone (or a huge amount of risk if you fail on a one hit kill strategy) and you have many opportunities to turn the tide of combat.

Using high powered/risky weapons is much more obvious, as well, and much more difficult to hit with due to limited ammo. This means that in order to use a one hit kill weapon (or even a 3 or 4 hit kill weapon) you need to really commit your build to it and it will be very obvious to the opponent, giving the opponent more information and the opportunity to resist.

Notice a trend?

The information and circumstances that the player have control over is much, much higher. You don't end up feeling cheated out of a win because of the environment or a lack of opportunities/equipment.

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>>180127334
Disgusting

>>180127116
>tfw my ex gf literally fucked her best friend and I watched then got in too
She had rather big tits and her friend small and firm tits
One of the best moments in my life

>>180127292
>you can literally do this with a CE script
>from is too incompetent to ever incorporate it in their game

>>180126742
>tfw fair looking long-haired man
Read: 4/10 grocery store clerk with waist-length greasy black hair, thinks that he's attractive because he has a set of weights in his basement that he lifts sometimes between playing video games

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>>180127271
>tribadism
Chris chan spotted, go back to work on the comics.

>>180127564
You're pretty much on the ball. Souls is always a game about one side dumpstering the other side due to having an overwhelming advantage, be it mechanical or technical.

But I always figured that was intentional. You know, in fitting with the whole style of the games where you are encouraged to overcome critical adversity. Invasions support this. Structured PvP does not, which is why I feel it was a mistake to add it to the series.

>>180127557
>spear of the church
>monster
>>180127116
this, fucking faggots

is there any evidence that would suggest the nameless king is not gwyn's firstborn?

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>>180127868
Shit, my secret identity has been compromised.

>>180127116
>Liking dykes or "Lesbians" rubbing nothing to stimulation...
Yeah no I'd rather stick to something I actually find appealing like actual straight sex.

>millwood bow on a 66 strength build

What were the devs thinking when they added what is basically a rocket launcher to the game?

>>180127478
>invade lost afk host outside dancer
>first in a while I didn't come across a gank squad so I decide to wait a bit
>so I can have a nice 1 vs 1 fight
>teleport behind me and back stabs me
>I put up a good fight but he wins due to his end game/dlc gear and my crappy fashion gear
>he points down

>>180127292
>tfw no shitter boss that uses Fallen Knight Set mixed with Farron Set and Havels + Dark Sword
>He changes his equiment mid fight to counter your weapons and armor (calculated by AI)
>At every 1/4 of his HP he "summons" a Phantom into the Fight
>If you die he points down/Claps/Bows
for example when he ganls you he bows
>If you win you dont get a "HEIR OF FIRE DESTROYEY" notification but "CONNECTION ERROR"
>You have to point down to get his Boss Soul/ Special Drop
Do it Miyazaki

>>180128038
i don't get it

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>>180127564
>>180125730

These are good posts, somebody please save them.
T. Dumb phoneposter

>>180128201
What would the special drop be?

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>>180128081
Fun.

>>180128436

mask of the father and the well what is it gesture

>>180128436
A Dung Pie or an simulated Steam/PSN Hate Mail or Group Invite

>>180128584
Make it happen

>>180128537
>that wonky force push effect dragging him forwards instead of knocking him back
Weapons/Miracles like this are so cruel to use.

But so fun as well.

>>180128537
>24 Vigor with Life Ring
Not that it mattered in this case, but do people not ever get the message to level that stat up? Especially in the final DLC of the game.

>>180128939
>getting hit

>>180128939
>levelling VIG ever
casual

>>180127868
>But I always figured that was intentional.

It is. The lack of free respeccing or being able to see your opponent's build in detail after the battle (something they have been doing for literally a decade in their other games) alone proves that they are trying to create a different experience.

From's goal with DS pvp is to create youtube-worthy videos, laughs with friends, surprises, etc. It's more like a party game built around crazy circumstances than a competitive pvp game. And that's a cool experience, but adding a competitive 1v1 element to it has taken away from the focus and made the pvp worse at both things.

I'm fine with pvp focusing on having 3-4 phantoms at once, it makes for some neat experiences, but it does fall apart if you try to take it seriously, and that generates a lot of salt.

>>180129306
Then we're agreed that the duelfag mentality is a cancer upon Dark Souls and the rest of the genre.

>>180129420
yes fuck honorfags

i love it when they clap after I sip my estus, gives me free hits in

>>180127868
>You know, in fitting with the whole style of the games where you are encouraged to overcome critical adversity
this is why invasions are the peak of Souls mechanics for both the invader and the invaded, and why they made it most likely to invade worlds with phantoms
>>180128293
he misquote you probably >>180127838

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>>180128295
there you go

>>180129573
>Sip estus
>Host claps
>I rollcatch them into the shadow realm
>[Welcome!] gesture

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>>180129775
Thanks breh.

>>180129420
I think it's here to stay, with Prepare to Die, From could have chosen to add pve covenants and pull away from the dueling element, but chose to play into it instead by adding an arena (even a shitty one). From then on they continued to validate it.

I don't think it's a cancer, but players should not take it so seriously and treat it as the fun side minigame /practice mode it is.

If From labeled the arena "Practice Tutorial Mode" it would probably wake most people up about the state of DS3's pvp.

>my pure Faith healslut only has Friede and TRC to do, then SoC
>completely lost all motivation to continue

Maybe it's the fact that I've had to treat it like a poor man's straight sword + small shield run this entire time, but outside of bleeding out Dancer and Nameless King this is one of the worst playthroughs I've had.

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>>180129420
>>180130006
And then they add rankings to it. That threw everything over the line.
Another thing DS2 did better was giving covenants ranks but not limiting them to the arenas

>>180130073
Have some big strong men guide your used up self to completion. It's the only way.

>>180130073
Just summon someone and heal them while occasionally pelting the enemy with attack miracles.
That's how you healslut.

>>180130006
Invasion covenants are fine, though. The problem has never been with invasions since they're inherently assymetrical.

The addition of the arena was very silly and feels like it was thrown in for shits and giggles.

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Anybody knows some Japanese here?
I tried my best.

>>180122864
What is that dark vortex thing on the inside of her eyepiece in the intro movie?

>>180123746
DaS1: Four Kings
DaS2: Aldia
DaS3: Gael

Is the Murakumo considered a cheap weapon?

It feels a little cheap.

>>180130218
Yeah, I'm specifically differentiating between invasions and dueling here.

Ideal souls game only needs Darkwraiths, Sunbros, Darkmoons, and one or two SotC/ Bellbro or Forest Hunter like area-specific covenants, and make the items of each covenant unable to be used if you are part of the other coveanant.

>Darkwraiths invade anywhere, but only invade above their level.
>Sunbros can put down summon signs for people in their range or password.
>Darkmoons auto invade to kill darkwraiths above their level.
>Bellbros are guardians of a specific area or play as an NPC boss, for people in their range or password, and get special boss items/support.

Every other covenant in souls is wholly unnecessary.

>Stray Demon's legs break off if you do enough concentrated damage to them without killing him
>He crawls around dragging himself for the rest of the fight


I just found this out in NG+, its pretty neat

>>180123746
>DeS: Maiden Astraea
>DS1: Nito
>DS2: Velstadt
>DS3: Soul of Cinder

>>180123136
Lookin' good Ciaran

>>180130785
>>180130218
also I would do Level + Weapon + Area memory.

So you could only invade people who had entered the same number of areas and upgrade level you have accessed, or lower, within your level range. DS3 sort of does this by making titanite restricted to certain areas

>>180130785
Man you're preaching to the choir here. I completely agree.

I also think that the Sin system from DS1 was the best covenants have been.

Way of Blue/Blue Sentinels can maybe stay as well, though.

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>>180126606
>canon romance has almost no material

>>180130968
Nothing triggers me more the Ciaran fags latching on to another character due to them not accepting her death.

>>180130874
Is the stray demon actually a rotted version of the Asylum Demon?

>>180131207
Rotted? Nah, he's just a bit burned out.

Is this game still alive?

>>180131069
sin system could be used as a priority for matchmaking, higher sin makes you higher priority for bellbros and darkmoons to invade you first before other players. Killing other players as a darkwraith or bellbro raises sin.

Blue sentinels should just be darkmoons. There's no reason for them to be separate.

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>>180131143
>All we have is Sidhe to fill the void.......
And even then, not even that many fics on them either......just gay, gay, Disgusting, lesibain, and good shit that's strarted and never even finished......

>>180131354
kinda wish it wasn't just edited Trump pics

>>180131319
Darkmoons serve a different purpose. They invade other invaders. Blue Sentinels come to the aid of people who are currently being invaded. I think they have seperate enough niches that they can both fit.

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>Tfw your glass cannon mage is finally starting to get fun

>>180131271
define "alive"

DS3 is definitely active but there are some bosses that people don't really summon for anymore because there are fewer first time players. Steam sale will probably bright back a few more newbies however.

But for all three games there are enough people playing them that you can get help or duels any time you want by just asking for them here, reddit, twitter, etc. or sniping other people's pvp streams.

DeS is the only one where you might struggle to find a person to play with.

>>180123746
DeS :
King Allant

DaS :
O&S

DaS 2 :
Sir Alonne

DaS 3 :
Dragonslayer Armor

Bloodborne :
Ludwig the Accursed

>>180131271
On Dedbox? Yes
On PS4? Yes/wavering on them just going back to BB
PC? Decent population if you look at the steam numbers.
Not sure on any other souls

>>180131175
>implying I didn't get a boner from Ciaran's tears in DS1 as well as killing her in DS1 and DS3
TIME
IS
CONVOLUTED

>>180131354
>Hey Faggots,
>My name is Alva, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, hollows who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass statues. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to furries.

>Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was chosen guardian of a saint, and explored the entire world including the Ringed City. What do you do, other than “jack off to naked snake-legged traps”? I also have working poise, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). >You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
>Pic Related: It’s me and my witch

>>180131271
A game is an inanimate object

>>180131271
The game's alive and well as long as you keep to the correct Soul memory limits for each area.

>>180131617
Hate you for that time meme, but great use of that pasta 10/10. That shit really does fit with anything.

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*blocks your path*

>>180131949
*gets stuck on the staircase*
Old people are better dead.

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>>180131949
What, still here?

Hand it over, that thing. Your demon's soul. For my lady's painting.

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>>180123094
At this point he's doing it purely out of spite. I assume that Ringed City and DS3 / The Old Hunters is his absolute last ditch measure to save his channel if viewers started seriously drying up.

But think in your own case :
If people started angrily demanding that you play a game you don't feel like playing would you comply with them or would you cuck them by not playing?

He's a person and not a slave to his viewers.

>>180132245
he is an autist

>>180132426
What are you basing your argument on?

Just picked up bloodborne this weekend. I want to just play it blindly, but is it easy to fuck up your character and ruin a bunch of NPC quests like in dark souls?

>>180133717
It can be easy to fuck up your character, seeing as there are no respec options. On your first run, don't focus on that too much, actual "builds" can come later. NPC quests, there aren't nearly as many, but as long as you progress normally and pay attention, you should be able to fulfill them.
And /bbg/ is always available for help, if you need it.

>>180133717
BB character quests are a bit better than DS3's, or at least you don't ruin any just by going into the wrong place.

>>180132245
>He's a person and not a slave to his viewers.
But this is false though. The moment you start attempting to make money by recording yourself playing video games and posting them on the internet, you become a slave to those people who view your videos and foolishly choose to give you money for them. If you actually choose to make that your sole livelihood, then all the more so. One of the reasons why Cowboy is one of the only Souls video makers that I respect, he does it as a side thing for fun and has a regular day job.

I feel no sympathy for him and his "plight" over that child custody case and any hurt feelings he has over those supposed miscarriages.

>>180133834
>no respec options
fuck, my autism is awakening. I fucked up every dark souls character on my first run

>>180133982
Can't you ruin Eileen's by not going and fighting Gascoigne's partner in his boss arena? And isn't it possible to fuck up Alfred's if you fail to light a lamp at Cainhurst before dying?

>>180134203
Eileen's is ruined by entering the Woods before speaking to her in Cathedral Ward. She's a little hidden there, but you should be able to find her. As for dying before lighting a lamp at Cainhurst, that's pretty difficult, it's right past the first gate. No idea what happens, though.
>>180134113
Like I said, don't worry about it. Nobody got their first character right. Actual builds for the "meta" are thrown around like candy on /bbg/, but don't mention the meta; people go on a shit-fest that lasts a good chunk of the thread.

>>180134203
>if you fail to light a lamp at Cainhurst before dying
Never thought of what would happen in that case.

>>180134081
Well I mean, there's nothing wrong with asking for donations as long as you aren't insufferable about it.

Trying to live on it is taking the piss a bit, though.

Why is the Crescent Moon Sword so fun?

Why aren't there more moon weapons?

How different is the damage between murky longstaff at 45 int and izalith staff at 45/45?

>>180134650
Izalith Staff is vastly stronger.

>>180134569
Moonlight Greatsword?
You can use the Darkmoon blade and pretend.

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Does anyone here know how to activate the Dark Souls 1 "overhaul" mod, specifically the increased phantom limit as seen here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evYCvJXgrwU

I have the CE tables but when I try to activate them my game always locks up.

BEST TO WORST

BASE GAME RATINGS:

Areas:
Demon's Souls
Bloodborne
Dark Souls 1
Dark Souls 2
Dark Souls 3

Bosses:
Dark Souls 3
Bloodborne
Dark Souls 1
Dark Souls 2
Demon's Souls

NPCs:
Dark Souls 1
Demon's Souls
Dark Souls 2
Dark Souls 3
Bloodborne

Moveset Variety
Bloodborne:
Dark Souls 1
Dark Souls 2 (includes powerstancing)
Dark Souls 3
Demon's Souls

Player Creativity and Customizability
Dark Souls 2
Dark Souls 1
Bloodborne
Dark Souls 3
Demon's Souls

DLC RANKINGS:

Bosses:
Old Hunters
Ringed City
Artorias of the Abyss
Crown of the Old Iron King
Crown of the Sunken King
Ashes of Ariandel
Crown of the Ivory King

Areas:
Old Hunters
Ringed City
Sunken King
Ivory King
Old Iron King
Ashes of Ariandel
Artorias of the Abyss

Weapons, Spells, and Equipment:
Old Hunters
Ringed City
Ashes of Ariandel
Ivory King
Old Iron King
Sunken King
Artorias of the Abyss

NPCs
Artorias of the Abyss
Ringed City
Ivory King
Ashes of Ariandel
Old Hunters

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>he hasn't made an old man character in DS3 yet

>>180135282
All this work, and yet you're still wrong.

Kill yourself, autismo.

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>>180134081
He is still not a slave. Yes, his viewers will decide if they want to keep giving him money but he is free to choose the games he wants to stream.

>I have no sympathy for him
That's entirely up to you. I'm a fan of his content and I do have sympathy, but that's neither here nor there in this regard.

I'm just saying that him not wanting to play DS3 is his own personal decision he weighs against the financial benefits that might come from caving in. And if viewers think his content isn't worth supporting then they can choose to mot continue giving him money.

>>180135282
The Areas in Dark Souls 3 are one of the bests and Gael easily beats Ludwigs Boss fight

>>180136076
t.ive donated to a man playing video games all day

>>180136170
>Gael easily beats Ludwigs Boss fight
Hell no.

Dark Souls 3 areas weren't very good, either. The early game particularly was abysmal.

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>>180135665
>implying I haven't
Your guy doesn't even look that old desu

>>180136170
Muh muh guiding moonlight! Cheesy as fuck just like the blood of darksoul.

>>180136483
Why not?
Gaels moveset and animation is ten times better than Ludwigs.

>>180136189
Why would you think I would be ashamed of that?
If you support the people who continue to create entertainment for you, it's an investment.

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>>180136483
>People still think Ludwigs is god tier
Its great but the best part is the cutscene, I've never found the fight to be especially engaging. Orphan is better.

>>180136825
That the origin of humanity gave him his own sense and humanity back makes more sense than Le Moonlight

>>180136578
I think I might have invaded you at one point.

>>180136578
is that a dark tower reference or am i too hopeful

>>180136924
He will do it for three because he apparently is not qualified to do anything else, you are just stupid for paying an giant beta baby for streaming so that you can see your name for 5 seconds in the said stream

>>180137147
Probably not, I only do duels with this build and I'm on PS4 anyway.

>>180137213
Salaman is a character in Souls lore.

>>180136853
>Why not?
Far less interesting transformation, less variation between phases. Lighting visual effect in third phase clashes with everything else going on. Last phase attacks are flashy but very easy to dodge, other than moves which require fairly precise timing thanks to the cape.

Gael is a great boss fight, probably my four favorite in the series, but I would put both Gerhman and Ludwig above him.

>>180136926
I strongly disagree. Ludwig is a proper Bloodborne boss; he rewards aggression. You can stagger him, and you kill him in both forms by wailing on him at every given opportunity. Fights against him are quick and full of adrenaline, and the soundtrack adds a lot to it.

The problem with Orphan is that he is very tanky, and the safest way to kill him (first form, at least) is to make distance and then stuff his approaches (both of his approaches are very punishable). He has attacks that force you to wait if you don't get a parry, and he can punish you for pressing R1 after stagger. He punishes offensiveness in a way pretty much no other BB boss does. Plus, his second form has a handful of "how the fuck do I dodge that?" attacks, like the lighting and one of his follow up smashes, which is a bit cancerous considering how much health you have to burn through to kill him. His second form also has attacks which just aren't very punishable, which can be pretty annoying if he chains them.

>>180135282
every time you post lists like these i feel like you make up categories so you can give an edge to dark souls 2 in some way

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>>180137436
>Orphan isn't good because he doesn't let you blindly charge in and spam r1 and dodges
Okay lad

>>180137436
We could discuss this the whole night but I am to tired for that shitty opinion

>>180137735
Orphan makes you wait more, while fights against Ludwig are much more active.

>>180138028
I don't know what you;re doing where orphan becomes a slow and boring fight, he is immensely aggressive.
It sounds more like you play like a coward and back off too much when you fight something that actually acts aggressively back at you.
Ludwig fights like any big boss where he has big telegraphed swings, especially in the second phase, that can get noticeably repetitive.

Will giving myself emotes I missed trigger a ban?

Trying to decide on a build to go with for DS3, should I do Str or Str/Faith? Can either of them coop AND PvP?

>>180135665
You just look jobless and depressed, not old

>>180138596
Do Str/Int

Thinking of doing a SUNDOWNER cosplay.
Big Doors are a must but indecided on the weapon.
In between Barbed sword or Morion's blade because od the serrating weapon.

Which one or which other weapon would fit the character more?
Also He has the best theme

>>180138359
>Ludwig fights like any big boss where he has big telegraphed swings, especially in the second phase
Ludwig mixes up between slower attacks and very fast attacks. Often he does a slow first swing and then a very rapid follow up.

The best way to kill Orphan first phase is to walk about thirty feet off, then back stab his jump ins and parry him when he darts forward and there's a slow motion second before he uppercuts with the placenta. If you do that you'll barely get hurt until his second phase. If you get up close and be more active you take a lot more damage.

Ludwig can't really be dealt with like that because he doesn't open himself up for viscerals in such repetitive ways.

>>180138596
Do a 66/40 str/fth regenerator built, it's pretty good for both co-op and pvp. Lothric Knight Greatsword (either lightning or blessed) is pretty great. So is dragonslayer Greataxe.

You can also use lloyd's shield ring on passive regen to really fuck with players and bosses, since you'll take half damage from everything as long as you passively wait between hits.

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>>180137313
Well that's just like, your opinion man. To me the sum I donated wasn't particularly huge and frankly I think it was fairly little for all the entertainment his Souls vids have brought me over the years.

>>180139103
>Regenerator build

Shitter alert

So raw weapons are almost always best for SL35+3 invading, right?

Or bort's, I guess, but I don't really want to be cancer

>>180136076
Why is Good Hunter's pillow splattered with blood?

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I HATE STRAIGHT SWORDS SO FUCKING MUCH

>>180140340
just parry lmao

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>tfw you invade some co-op faggots and ruin their epin seed setup

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>>180140152
He snuck some snacks into bed. The doll kinda hates it because it makes a mess.

>>180140550
>complaining about seeds post nerf
dumb weebposter

>>180140738
Seed set up...more like let me wait behind a gravestone for like 30 seconds and then go right back to it.

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>>180140738
>He thinks that was a complaint

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anyone up for some coop?
ill keep going after the bone zone if you want to follow along


NG+
Catacombs of carthus
PS4
dsg

>>180140048
18 str or dex or so is where raw weapons stop being good.

27 str 2H is better for low level if you want to ultratwink, otherwise raw or lightning on basic requirements is good.

>>180141158
Eh, guess I'll be making my cathedral knight invader str based after all

Like I said, I don't want to be cancer, but I do want to dumpster people.

>>180141301
Yea both Cathedral knight weapons are much better at heavy + min 2 hand reqs than Raw

>>180141480
Right

Cathedral GS is pretty good, right? The poke seems really nice and stomp is fantastic.

>>180141743
Issue is that at that sort of level you just don't have the necessary vit or end for UGS without heavily detracting from strength.

Unless you use prisoner's chain I guess, but that's twinky as fuck

>>180141743
I personally detest the 2-hand R1 overhead chop on those types of UGS, though I have been fucked up by it on more than one occasion. If you like the moveset, though, then go for it

Whats up with these dark hands at low SL?
Is it a new meta meme now ?
Most are shitters too, so I am willing to believe it is.
>Host tries to parry a 2H GH
yep, seems like shitters

>>180142012
>Use curved greatsword
>Host tries to parry the spin

Every time

>>180141743
Profaned Greatsword is another good option.

Are the magic barrier/Great magic barrier worth using?

>>180142186
How do you get good with Curved GS?
I loved Nito's in 1, but in 3 there isn't one that catches my eye.
They have almost no range, against any other ultra, they can be outraded and outpoised.
I guess running attack is good, but can be parried and outtraded.
They do have good combos, but some weapons with bigger damage can too

>>180141301
see:
>>180122965

Gains in strength are really high when 2Hing under 27. On A scaling weapons It's ~40% more damage to go from 12 str to 27 for only 15 levels, and since raw is worse than normal infusion below ~18 strength or so, there's little reason not to just go to 27 so you can use heavier weapons.

>>180142390
In DS1?
Yes. No magic user will touch you and hate you for it
DS3?
Nope. Unless your opponent is a full on magician, it will be wasted, since it doesnt protect against anything else

>>180142390
>lasts over a minute with Lingering Dragoncrest Ring +2
Maybe if magic wasnt dogshit easy to dodge already in this game. I suppose it could be useful to BTFO Memelight GS builds

>>180142429
They have plenty of range and their attacks come out significantly faster than other weapons which share that range.

They mostly just play like greatswords except you have an answer to parries. You wouldn't trade with a UGS or a GH with a GS, so don't do it with a CGS.

>>180142567
does GMB really only give magic resist?

>>180142686
Yea, use Iron Flesh if you want lightning resistance
:^)

Is the Lothric Knight Sword literally the exact same as the Balder Side Sword? I use the LKS in my most recent DaS3 run and I'm jonesing for a DaS1 run

>>180143184
Same moveset, yes. It's great because the R2 pokes make it very versatile as a straight sword.

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Is the Twin Princes' GS good enough to be worth making a build around?

>>180143184
They're the same in that they both have 2H thrust R2s and the 2nd 2H R2 is sitll a poke. The moveset is near identical.

A regular longsword will stab with an R2, but the 2H is still a slash and the 2nd R2 is a slash.

>>180143759
It's pretty fun. It's definitely not a gimmick weapon, but the weapon art alone makes it worthwhile. Specifically the lothric soul spear attack. Just be sure to stack poise

>>180143184
It's even better because it's longer than all other straightswords, unlike LKS which is short.

>>180144008
LKS is only short compared to the likes of the Dark Sword. Straight swords in general still have obscene phantom range.

>>180144141
DS1 longsword vs DS1 BSS
DS3 longsword vs DS3 LKS

BSS is so fucking long by comparison, it's estoc length or more I think. Phantom range aside, DS3's longsword is still longer than LKS.

What is a way to spice up a 3-man co-op run of DaS1? Could we share that randomizer mod so the loot pool is the same between us?

NO FUCKING WHIPS

>>180144992
Yes, it gives you a seed that you can use to create the same item distribution in other games.

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>give up trying to figure out how to see invisible CIA niggas in Eleum Loyce
>it's an item found in an exact location I already tried to interact with
>distinctly remember no options at skeleton pyre beyond "Read Message" and "Check Bloodstain"
That's enough magnificent design for tonight.

>>180145912
>he doesn't pay attention to the "switch" prompt

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>>180145912
think of the PvP tho

>Encounter somebody using Hidden Weapon
>Genuinely throws me off my game

Seems like it could be an underrated spell desu. Thought he was hacking at first.

>>180146130
lmao i've tried using that spell before for the banter, problem is, i use weapon arts too much so it gives away what im using. perhaps a halberd or spear user could confuse someone, thinking that they have the other

>>180146130
>living in 2011

>>180146091
I pressed Triangle multiple times to look for an item or interaction, but there were only those two options I wasn't looking for.

>>180146241
Yeah, that was what it was. Crucifix, I think, but that has 3 different WAs so I was all like what the fuck when I saw a big purple explosion

>>180146306
you might have been standing on the wrong side of the platform it's on. It's pretty obviously sitting there, hard to miss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyGahcVrghg

The whole fucking fire glowing thing even stops when you pick it up.

>>180146360
exactly. alternatively, you may be able to pass off the Red Hilted Halberd for a generic spear and then surprise someone with P O I S E

someone post a webm of them not playing reactive in arena

Is the Zweihander still a good ultra-great or should I look elsewhere? I ran FUGS for a while but it just didn't do much for me.

>>180146948
the regular greatsword is a direct upgrade to the zweihander, it's just heavier. FUGS has a few unique moves but is also a general upgrade since they all share the same basic moveset and WA.

>>180146948
Depends, honestly. >>180147441 I disagree.
If you like the Zwei moveset (most importantly, 2H R1 horizontal slash) then its one of the few UGS with that moveset. I believe that its the Zwei, Profaned UGS, Astora UGS and LKGS with the horizontal 2H R1. Of those, it depends on your build for the best

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>>180131354
>no delicious doujin or even just fic of Zullie cuckqueaning the fuck outta Saint Serreta
>no actual lewds just sweet eternal misery when Zullie legitimately tries to comfort Alva after Serreta's passing

On an unrelated note, ried to get this translated but my friend refused on the basis of it being too lewd.

>>180147856
I can read a little bit of Japanese, and I think Zullie is saying "tsukamaeta", which means something like "you're under arrest". Doesn't really make that much sense in context desu.

>>180148140
fuck off weeb

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>>180148140
God damn it, that's not lewd at all. I've been rused this entire time. Oh well, thanks anyway.

>>180148346
>>180148140
>being spread out on the ground and bound, told that you're under arrest
>"not lewd"
>"doesn't make sense"

oh you poor innocent children

>>180148140
Pretty cute desu, kinda want more but eh. As stated above, something great comes along and life finds a way to pull the creator away with real responsibilities.

>>180148278
I'm probably the least weeb person in this whole thread dude. I don't even watch anime or anything, I just took Japanese in high school because I was good at it and needed the credit.

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Is her head to small in this armor?
Is the frown look stupid?
I cant quite figure out what looks so weird in this armor.

>>180148546
>shira crown
>bronze statue skin
9/10 and it just seems the faram armor is bulking you up. Head may seem a bit to small but I think it's just the angle.

>>180148546
The character herself looks fine, it's mostly just the way Faraam armor and anything else without a high collar looking weird in general without a helmet or gorget.

Fucking Lothric Knight armor looks terrible without a gorget.

what are some good dark infused weapons that only require abound 5~ points of physical stat investments

>>180148791
lol banned

>>180148546
instead of making armor overlay on top of your character in DS3, it actually stretches your character's body to fit it. Her head isn't small, but you just gave her massive shoulders by wearing faraam armor.

>Don't have any new ideas for a build

Finally, I am free of this cycle.
I can finally Finish Nier Auto, Persona 5 and play the new Crash

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Fun moment of the night

>>180149538
Damn, that makes sense. I never noticed honestly. I hate it. I wish I could make a more petite warrior.

>>180148763
Maybe next game from will put a bit more into the way armor hugs the body. Thats all I want.
Also that sweet mustache from DS2.

>>180148652
Thanks! I love this character. Im not crazy about the hair color though. Struggling for a good one.

>>180149984
Much more noticeable changes in armor in set up would be good. Just stuff like how the Painting Guardian sleeves are rolled up with certain gloves.

>>180149984
>Maybe next game from will put a bit more into the way armor hugs the body

Next game will probably still be using DS3/BB's engine, so doubt that. If miyazaki isn't involved there's a good chance that it will have better mixing and matching (with armor and character model range being narrower so things mix better, and standardized lighting on armors like in DS2). Armor not matching very well is a consistent problem with every single one of miyazaki's games, and I think that's because he designs whole armor sets as concept art first rather than trying to design armor as individual useful pieces.

The mentality behind DS3 seems to be that you are to wear full armor sets as cosplay, or not at all.

>>180149745
>Think i don't have any new ideas
>Somebody mentions Gundyr in thread
>Think how would the game change exclusively as Gundyr

FUCK, when can this cycle end

>>180149745
I gotcha, bud

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/212419

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/212417

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/211122

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/209550

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/205901

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/188696

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/212758

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>>180149745
>Start Nier Automata
>Get bored after a few hours and proceed to add another couple of hundred hours to my DaS3 play time
It never ends.

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>>180150603
This is the main appeal of From and what sets them away from other companies. The lore, the gameplay, all that shit has been done before. It's the customization of the game experience and tweaking that makes them different, that's what brought people to Armored Core before souls.

Imagine a souls game where you can set all your stats from the start of the game, and every weapon/armor/ring in the game was purchasable at the start, and instead of enemies just getting stronger, they threw new maps and ranked/scored challenges at you. Now also imagine all bosses are actually invaders/NPCs with their full equipment available, instead of just dropping armor.

Shit's fun.

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>>180150603
I envy you creative guys. I only thought of a different fun build after 100h with the same one and its pretty generic.
Dont blame yourself, its a gift imo just stop playing for a while, its going to be more enjoyable when you're back

Some good challenge run ideas for a coop run?
Such as max weapon upgrades, only 5 non upgraded estus uses

also is it possible to start right away on ng+1? as a lvl 1 character?

>>180150837
>he doesn't use a +6 counter and taunt stacked hyper mode 1HKO build so he can kill every boss in one hit

Nier's the only Non-From game I've played with as much gameplay customization as souls, I'm finding myself bored with DS3 and going back to nier more recently because of it.

>>180150801
>60 FTH Heavy LKGS with DMB
Stopped reading there.

>>180149213
I was gone for fucking 10 minutes from the tab to buy some shit. What did he post?

>>180151068
Thats fine, that was probably just a test build that got mixed in w/ builds ive done.

>>180151154
you realize that DMB is magic, not lightning, right?

>>180151109
racism
Two of em actually

>>180151260
>literal thought police
This place has gotten pretty touchy.

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>>180151236
>it's magic damage
is there any reason for my paladin try to get it?

>>180151638
That doesn't even fucking explain what he posted! Did he say nigger or something?

>>180151850
yeah
someone got a bit upset their waifu was slandered and reported them i'd guess

also use 4chanx

>>180151638
racism has been against the rules for a while, newfriend, /pol/ is there as a containment board

Can you drop Vanquisher's Seals? I'm 560k memory and at my wit's end with these stones.

>>180151684
Magic damage is better than lightning against most builds because faith builds are more common than sorcerers, so magic defense is generally lower. Otherwise it's identical to lightning blade.

It's a good buff, but if you use it on LKGS (which has native lightning damage) you suffer 2 split damage penalties instead of 1. Save darkmoon blade as a primary buff on pure physical weapons and use lightning blade as a buff for native lightning weapon.

>>180151684
It's fine to use on Sunlight Straight Sword, buffs that scale with your catalyst are much better on light, fast weapons than they are with slow weapons anyway.
Just use Blessed infusion on LKGS.

>>180152292
lol, next you'll say i can't say faggot anymore because it'll hurt someone's feelings

>>180151959
lol what has 4chan come to!

>>180152325
>>180152361
I see, so I should see it as another possibility instead of my main tool
thanks anons, I can imagine how to fit it now

>>180152314
Farm Rhoy the explorer offline, or just let other players invade you with dried fingers/delicate string/token of spite online.

Rhoy counts as an invading phantom (guaranteed awestone drop) but will spawn each time you visit like a normal enemy for each bonfire intensity cycle. He only spawns at intensity 2+ however, so you need at least 2-3 ascetics (1 to make him spawn, 2 more to farm the 36 possible awestones). Killing him 30 times shouldn't take you longer than an hour.

http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/awestone

Or you can sit at the iron keep bridge with the delicate string equipped and wait to be invaded while you do something else.

>>180151684
It's useful if you're fighting something resistant to Lightning. e.g., any opponent with 40 Endurance, which is literally every melee build. Magical damage lets you deal more damage against any enemy that isn't a Sorcerer, and if it is a Sorcerer then you have the option of using Lightning Blade or Dark Blade.

>>180150801
>All these builds
I really just want to finish this Heavy Spiked Mace / Heavy barbed sword combo I got going on.
P. fun stuff, even more when (if) the bleed hits. They die before it even procs.
As much as i want to try these builds, I think I am fine with this one. At the ringed city now and maxed weapons so I can finally put DS3 to rest.
Named my character Blood Addled in honor of BB and since it fits the bleed theme.

Thanks for the ideas, specially the Immolation Tinder one, but I just want the cycle to end and move on until a new game like this can keep me glued for a straight year.

does the sunlight straight sword weapon art buff blessed weapon

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Will wearing any part of the Fallen Knight set get you cyberbullied, or is it just the pants?

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>>180152726
>Named my character Blood Addled in honor of BB and since it fits the bleed theme

>>180152896
any, specially combined with the shield of want and the dark sword

>>180152890
it buffs you, so yes it buffs everything you use for a weapon.
I like to use it and then switch to an unbuffable weapon for some sneaky buffs.

>>180152890
Oath of Sunlight is a body buff, not a weapon buff, so it stacks with blessed weapon.

I believe the only things that conflict with Oath of Sunlight is Sacred Oath and Tears of Denial. All other buffs stack.

How does luck work?

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>>180153020
Something to do with an egg.

>>180152942
wow what weapon is that?

>>180153020
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Luck

Has a hardcap at 40.

Also increases damage on hollow infusion weapons. Hollow infusion weapons give +5 luck at max upgrade, too, so 35 luck is the stopping point for a luck build.

>>180152314
The Dragon Knights at Dragon Aerie can drop Awestones, and you can fight at least a dozen and a half of them per bonfire cycle.

I managed to get my Vanquisher's Seal long before I got enough Dragon Scales to max out the latter covenant.

>>180153135
>actually farming random drops instead of just farming NPCs/invasions

anon...

>>180153123
Naginata

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>>180153115
>5 (five) souls games
>both DLC for the final entry are Dark Souls 3: Anime edition
>still can't do this

Is there a point where returns are so little you don't want fap+3? Seems to me if you're using chain you may as well pair it with it

>>180153426
whats fap+3?

>>180152896
If anyone sees you wearing the chest and head piece, they will automatically assume that you are also wearing the pants.

>>180153020
Boosts buildup with bleed and poison weapons. Increases damage for Hollow-infused weapons and Anri's. Increases item discovery.

That last one is worthless since Gold Covetous +3, Symbol of Avarice, Crystal Sage's Rapier and Rusted Coins each provide significantly more item discovery than hitting the Luck soft cap.

>>180153020
Increases the amount of status buildup for bleed/poison, negligible on anything that isn't bleed or poison infused. Does not effect resins. Gives most bleed/poison infused weapons somewhere in the realm of 60-70 buildup at 50 luck, I think. These infusions ruin the AR of your weapon and make them un-buffable, so it's not really worth it.

Increases power of Anri's Straight and Man Grub's staff significantly, but increases after 40 are dramatically reduced. Hollow infusion also adds luck scaling to weapons, but it's generally inferior to other types of scaling.

Increases item discovery by 1 point per level.

>>180153426
FaP+3 is a linear percentage increase, which works the same whether you're at 10 Vigor or 50 Vigor. It's also literally the only way to efficiently go above 160 stamina.

It's not all that great at low SL, but when you've soft-capped everything it lets you get results beyond the associated caps.

>>180153497
Doesn't Luck boost the effectiveness of Rouge? Or was that removed with the Rouge nerf?

>>180153464
>>180153020
On top of what everyone else's said, luck's purpose is purely as a pve stat.

If you want to level up luck, do it early on so that you get better drops BEFORE you get item discovery equipment, as well as when doing a hollow build since you now have 1 stat that will scale with all of your weapons. Then focus your build around bleed and poison with hollow infusion, which works alright against mobs and bosses but is terrible in pvp.

If you plan on playing optimally or making a pvp build, luck is pointless.

>>180153497
Hollow bleed weapon with carthus rouge reaches 80-90 bleed pretty effectively.

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What was his endgame?

>>180153462
Ring of (F)avor (A)nd (P)rotecion +3

>>180153793
No, and I'm pretty sure it never did. It's a flat +20 bleed buildup.
Only really useful for what >>180153889 said, but you're still better off just using a sharp/heavy infusion on things with innate bleed. You lose like 10 buildup and gain a significant amount of AR.

>>180154014
isn't that in DS1 only?
i can't tell when you people talk about ds3 or not

>>180154114
+3 rings aren't in DS1. It didn't have ring levels.

It's safe to assume people are talking about DS3 unless they specify otherwise or say something like that, which would identify the game without needing to specify.

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>>180154114
Darksouls 1 has no + rings anon. It should be really simple. +3 also pretty much exists in the 3rd darksouls you know because of (3)

>>180153987
Kinda looks like he's playing with a keyboard

>>180153889
>80-90 bleed
Not since the nerfs.
I'm pretty sure even things like Spiked Mace and CCGS wouldn't receive 60-70 bleed while Hollow infused with max luck.

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>>180154151
So you're saying FAP+3 is just both Ring of Favor+3 and Ring of Steel Protection+3 correct?
Because there is no "Ring of Favor and Protection" in DS3 from what ive played.

>>180153987
Was that a second hitbox in Great Combustion?

>>180154247
But I'm on PS4.

>>180154048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngkkysqwm9Y
This was before the nerf to Rouge.

>>180154114
It's the exact same ring, and it's much faster to type FaP as a shorthand than to write out Ring of Favor. And upgraded versions of rings never existed in DaS1 (which nobody plays on a regular basis anymore).

>>180154328
Parting Flame comes with a built in Combustion on every spell cast.

>>180154280
You're being a pedantic fuckwit.

It's got the same item sprite and effect, so people call it FAP Ring +3 because that was what the original was called.

Now don't you have some legobricks to arrange by colour and size?

>>180154280
Stop fucking baiting, holy shit no is this clueless goddamn. Next thing you're gonna tell us or post is that outdated pvp video of darksouls 1 with the Havel mom image...

>>180154402
Neat

>>180154280
Stop being fucking retarded. It's shorthand and a holdover, Ring of Favor in DaS3 provides the exact same effects as Ring of Favor and Protection in DaS1, so we continue to use the acronym.

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>>180154280