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Previous >>179959274

art masterpieces - Edition

>A lot of info and details about re-balance stuff
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/ktest-ktos-class-rework-thread-important-info-in-1st-post/354628


>HG 315 Purple Weapons X Practonium Purple Weapons
https://pastebin.com/78mTQn1Y

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=3&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1008

>Current events:
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=33&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=994
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=974

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Addon Manager (includes jTOS and iTOS addons)
https://github.com/JTosAddon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager/releases


>Database, skill planner and other stuff
https://tos.neet.tv/

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Hunting Grounds locations and gear spreadsheet (all in RNG cubes now. drop from all)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fP4G1JjL2pj6wMfpL_3o9pFWYIKpr3QnYgQ-XTfK21k/pubhtml#

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
cute (Merigolds and Majiene)

>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)

>Telsiai
Comfy (neshoi)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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Goddesses are ugly as hell

Best Paizuri is this bitch honestly
She's got the right clothes for it too
Just unbutton under her tits and slam it in
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>>180087329
Why did you put that ugly image in OP? Shame on you.

HAET
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>>180087565
Anon, that's a Happy Merchant
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>>180087329
What is this shit?
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>>180087565
>falling for the mammary jew
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>>180087631
Fine

Max HFactor
Max Steam
5 Pandemic
4 Bloodletting
1 Fumigate
5 Beak Mask
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Fat cow tits are disgusting and so are all of you
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>>180087732
>She uses swell balls right before you bust inside her
unf
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>>180087795
>>180087631
Anons, you have to capitalize on the INT build.

5 Incinerator is perfectly viable
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>>180087916
5 Incinerate is completely retarded, since levels directly add to the duration
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>>180087840
Chestlets will never be real women
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>>180087732
The cleric master isquite equipped too
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>>180088006
wat
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>>180088117
Asking again from the other thread.

Or is there a way for me to just go SR and sit on sapper 3 for broom trap and shit. I just need an end game class that works and is not shit.
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day 2
>account 1: box 1 nothing box 2 nothing
>account 2: box 1 nothing box 2 pract GET!
>repeat nothing 1 and 2 until account 8
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first for cutest team
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>>180088230
This is definitely not an endgame class
It does also not work and is very shit

Either do a real reiter or sapper build
dont mix that shit
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>>180088634
>archer in middle
How much for a paizuri?
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>>180088304
One of my 3 boxes also gave a Pract yesterday!
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>>180088714
So which is the best if I go sapper 3? I have honestly no clue about archers so I've been reading around and asking but nobody has given me any real answers except you guys.
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>>180088230
If you want endgame archer go Sapper3Falcon3.
If you want musket then do Sapper3Falcon1Musket2
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>>180088861
The only real good sapper3 build is sapper3falconer3

It's a very desired endgame class but also requires funding
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Fuck, I didn't see there was a thread already.
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>>180088861
Falcon3 is the king and Sapper3 makes the whole thing broken
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>>180088928
Welp that means I really have to drop another $10 in this game to get a slot for the falcon. So after Sapper 3 I'll go Falcon 3 then? Funds is a semi non-issue since I do have enough characters to generate me enough to stay alive in this game without afk farming...yet.

>>180089030
Ok so after sapper3 falcon3 it is then. So my end build will be Archer 2-> Sap3 -> falcon 3.

Thanks guys.
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>>180089143
Falcon3 alone will takes you more than 30m for be viable
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>>180089236
30m huh? Is that from just attributes or with gears? I can surely just work myself towards it or something. I'm not rushing at all. I just need something better than Musket since apparently that is a dead class.
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>>180089236
you don't need max circling for it to be good
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>>180089462
That's just attributes
But the good thing is, you dont actually need more than that
Whereas other classes need alot more investment to be viable as dps falconer3 with all attributes enabled is 'support' that carries
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>>180089462
just attributes
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>>180089509
>>180089535
>>180089553
Cool you guys gave me hope.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB0RhgXL6AM
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Why do I still play this game?
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>>180089820
>bong showing more 'impressive and interesting' gameplay
meh
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Best TOSG guild, CoffeeHouse[Fedimian], is looking for more anons, old or new
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>>180089904
>371 enhancement
I genuinely don't understand what chain of events led to this.
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>>180090713
why are you guys so desperate for more members
How many online do you have right now
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>>180091083
The more the better!
We have almost 20 people online right now
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Is this a nexon game?
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>>180091317
Google you faggot
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>>180091317
Kinda, Nexon manages the korean (and japanese?) version, the international is managed by IMC directly.
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>>180091454
Does that mean it deals with NX credits or whatever they called?
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Do all weapons have the same attack speed? I'm bored and trying to plan out a build with monster ASPD.
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>>180091317
>>180091528
Check OP, nigga.

No it does not. International version is 0% Nexon. And is steam only.

Yes, its shit. Bye
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>>180091528
No.
The premium currency for the international can only be bought on steam
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>>180091639
>Yes, its shit. Bye
Dealing with nexon is way shittier. Bye I guess?
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>>180091769
But we dont deal with nexon. Fuck off already, retard
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Go be a father.
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>>180091769
I actually wish we had Nexon
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>new guy wants to play
>ask if it's good
>people in this thread tell him not to play and it's shit
>potential new player doesn't play anymore cause he/she was told no
>same faggots complain that the game is dead

The vicious circle of going full retard is still in effect huh?
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>anvil enchantment
>transcendence
Which do I do first? What happens when you fail a transcendence?
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>>180092353
You lose a potential and a stage
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>>180092319
>all his posts are dumb shit and he was to lazy to read
>he samefags and shitposts this >>180092319
we dont need more idiots. fuck off newretard
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>>180091283
More alive than Futureproof kek
Bet even Kotastu on Orsha is a bigger guild
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>>180091531
Yes, only your dex and some buffs boost attack speed.
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>>180092418
*autistic screeching*
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>>180092616
Fuck off already, newguy. This game is shit.
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>>180092319
A game filled with retards too dumb to search shit on their own who will inevitably shit up the game asking help for the most obvious things is worse than an empty game.
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>>180092412
Potential AND a stage? Golly.
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>>180092319
go back to your safe space aka reddit you fucking gay nigger faggot.
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CoffeeHouse doesn't bully new anons away
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>>180092319

you're wrong because the people here who play don't complain that the game is dead, in fact, they don't give a fuck, this game works as well wth 50k players as it works with 500. the people who post bad things about the game are the ones who fucked up their lives, move on from game to game and still come here to shitpost, like the FF14 retards

thanks god janitors banned a few after I reported
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>>180093107
But ffxiv is a bad game. The only thing going for it is that masturbating the player base with all the references to the older games and shit.
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>>180092319
Nobody wants new players, they want a better game. New players = IMC giving no fucks about this crap.
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>>180093324
You should stick around to see the retard that comes and begs in this thread for people to play with him.
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Daily reminder if you play as female you are gay.
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Daily reminder if you play this game you are a fucking retard.
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>>180093642
Thanks i almost forgot that.
You didnt remind us the last years, please dont skip it the next 365+days.
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>>180093581
Ew, why doesn't he go to the actual FFXIV thread then? Is it that bad that nobody even wants him in those threads?
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>>180093324

I know, that why I used it as a example

and as >>180093581 said, there's a few pathetic beings that come here to advertise this game

a game so shitty that can't even sustain a general
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>>180093642
What if I play a female with a dick?
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>>180094148
then you only like to crossdress.
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>>180094292
What if I bang other chicks with dicks?
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Playing a boy is hecka gay. Let me illustrate.

>be not gay
>like girls
>you pick girl toon

>be a cock loving faggot
>like boys
>you pick a boy toon

It's that simple.
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>>180092751
You can get 100% success rate for trans so it doesn't really matter.
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>>180094417
then you are a crossdresser AND a fag
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>>180094713
>being this insecure about your sexuality

lol faggot.
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Whats the tendency of this general to try to be as "macho" and normie as possible like you're cool when you do that
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>>180093642
Everybody knows that anon but thanks.
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What is the most OP build atm?
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>>180095129
Just being myself, daddy betabux
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>>180095252
sw>hl3>barb>doppel3
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>Koreans use matching for Saalus
>fast que
>runs are decent
>at 1.00-2.00 am
nice
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>>180095539
Thank god people are doing the same on Silute. Too bad there are too many crybabies that don't like Royal Mausoleum or Canyon.
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>>180095627
I don't get why people make such a big deal about those, you get around 100k for doing those and Minotaur/Velorchard cards are sometimes wanted.
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>>180095539
I want to fuck this cat!
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>>180095129
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Cute doctors!
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>>180095868
t. Small dick """""alpha""""" guyin a little girl ERP korean mmo
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why all those deleted post?
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>>180096210
yeah you would know that
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>>180095802
No, get lost!

>>180095748
They are long and annoying. Stupid Tree of Knockdowns.
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What are some really good Cleric builds?
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hwo saalus should work: if you don't care and don't mind the extra time/silver, you queue

if you want ultra fast missions for your 20 alts, you make a party specifically to roll lake/convent and invite people.

for people who has 45alts, dodging long missions are worth the loss of silver
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>>180095539
>This game is rated ESRB teen
>ESRB
>KR version
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>>180096601
Fine, okay. I want to pet this cat.
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>>180097357

cleric 2 -> anything not paladin
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>>180097357
Cleric2 Priest2 Anything

Most viable ET build in the game.
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>>180097516
I think it's funny how Paladins are the new Monk
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>>180097942
And paladins are way better now than before keknewal.
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>>180097942
But the ____monk is the new monk.
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Is there any info on the base stat values of all the sorc summons? I'm trying to do some morph min-maxxery but I can't find jack shit about it.
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>>180099196
You can look up the skill factors on tos.neet but I don't think anyone has recorded exactly what the base stats are since they vary with stats and level.
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>Small game
>That guy still has numbers and underscores
>That guy still replaces l with i and has random extra letters
>That guy who doesn't have a cool name
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>>180099892
>guy
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>that guy with the weaboo name
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Is there any PD build to solo level 315 HG? Someone said that is easy for them to solo those high level HG with a full SPR PD. Is that correct or full INT is better?
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>>180100521
>>180100280
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>>180100934
sounds weird. PD is INT
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>>180099892
>All the hamsters named hamtaro and hammy
>All the penguins named pingu and happyfeet
>All the hawks named fwee
>All the hoglans named nigger
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Since the combat overhaul is evasion a viable defensive stat now? I'm going dex for crit, not sure if I can safely go full dex.
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>>180099892
show us your "cool names"
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>>180100934
>>180101098

The thing about SPR PD is: PD 2 does a fuckload of multi-hits so people go SPR Priest Chaplain and enjoy abusive blessing damage ticking 3000 times per second.

But damage by damage, Int Sadhu 3 builds does better because transmit prana scales with int and matk as good as blessing scales with blessing and well, int itself boost PD skills matk. Chaplain has better autoatk fillers with aspergillum and atk lines but sadhu has possession and astral body explosion.

spr chaplain is better for the party but IMO sadhu solos better.
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>>180101312
Evasion appears to be completely broken.
According to the """official""" formula I should have at least 50% chance to evade, yet I barely dodge 10% of hits.
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>>180101312
The overhaul made evasion miniscule, possible bugged.
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>>180100934
priest 3 scales with SPR (blessing)
sadhu3 scales with INT (transmit prana)
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>>180099892
I really wish this game had boob sliders.
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>>180101542
Post level and evasion
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>>180101542
>>180101562
That's a shame, thanks for the response.
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>>180101380
Anything that isn't what I said
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>>180101778
nagger nugger pugger
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>>180101695
Hidden Class with Oracle3 prerequisite.
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>>180101892
Doesn't fit the cool name requirement
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>>180102123
show us good examples then :v
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>>180102123
is terminator a cool name?
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>>180101495
>>180101606
Thanks for the response.
Also, which one is better to get before Sadhu? Cleric 3, Diev 1 or Bokor 1?
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>>180102245
veni vidi nigger
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>>180101706
Level 330, ~611 evasion
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>>180102123
is back to the future a cool name?
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>>180102245
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>>180102419

I went bokor, zombie has some uses helping with aggro and effigy is a nice mix into the combo, specially if you want to invest hard on matk gear and chapparitons fora big burst (PD being a higly dot class lacks burst and effigy fix this so you can have a better use of chappa's) but diev 1 gives you better uptime with transmit prana (your main dps boost) and BDS, Cooldown reduction is too fucking good for everyone, and statues aggro nicely, plus, laima's slow also setups incineration

not a big fan o cleric 3 but cure/heal 15 are great too

you can also consider priest 1: good for ET and having blessing of your own (even if it's weak) is good because of the heal bombing: when you have blessing, heal tiles deal damage twice. yes you can have a better pardoner blessing and ignore priest, but pardoner's blessing runs out fast and I can't express enough how good heal bomb is lol

PD anons could share their experience with other variants too
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>>180102245
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>>180102419
diev1
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what are the gud enhancements now? is it still elements or are there new ones that are more valuable after the last big update?
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>>180102419
miko so you can be a weabo
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>>180103658
enchants*, my bad
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>>180103658
Elements are nowhere near as potent as before, raw patk and matk are the best because of scaling.
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>>180103686
You literally can't.
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>Finally reached 330 SPR Thauma3Linker3

Well, this was a fun experiment. I can get like 5k MATK going dagger, though I'm not sure if it's even worth it since my Energy Bolt damage wasn't that good to begin with.

Still prefer my CryoChronoSage for support, though. Swell Body doesn't feel that interesting since I'm not solo farming (and barely pays for Daino's), Links break instantly or are resisted, Spiritual Chain+Lifeline is less reliable than anything, Reversi is meh, Swell Right never really contributes for party damage since everyone is either 2H or using a subweapon added after the game beta which mean Swell doesn't help, Head gets overriden instantly if you're not burning Daino, lack of Pass is absurdly crippling, people would rather get Falc than Linker for some floors.

Maybe R9 will have a SPR class that makes this build good. Right now it's pretty underwhelming, even if the damage boost makes a whole caster party melt shit HARD.
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>>180107001
Go for Enchanter next.
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I can't even use the clover exp buff since I have a mounted class.
Who even designs those inane events.
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>>180107001
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Cleric2 -> Diev2 -> Monk
Right?

Or should I do Priest2?
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>>180107520
Priest2 so you can res your party's sorry asses
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>>180107129
I'd seriously be disappointed if the only relevant thing for R9 would be a R8 class.
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I have been rerolling 6 cubes for a month still no pract im going to kill myself soon
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>>180107001
So glad I decided to go INT Pyro2Thaum3WL2 instead of SPR Thaum3Link3. Thanks for jumping on the grenade for me 'cause I sure was thinking about trying that build with how much I love my ThaumWL
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Does pass reduce the CDs of Sprc summon special attack attacks?
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>tfw no PD gf to spread my Wugushi poisons
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>>180110653
>cleric slut gf spreads STDs
checks out
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>>180110653
Wugushi is dead anyway
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What dungeon is best for silver? I've pretty much maxed all of my characters, just need raw silver now.
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>>180111334
An afk farmer in demon prison f2 or some map like that.
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What do you listen to while tabbed out of TOS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BACT-JgpTmc
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>>180111334
Both 170 and 290 give pretty similar silver for FCing
You'll get around 1m per 3 clears roughly for either
AFK farming or farming for 315 mats will generally net more per hour than just spamming dungeons
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>>180111039
It's not DEAD! Kim will save her again!
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>patiently wait for a necromancer to die so I can steal his spot
Truly endgame here
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>>180111509
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M5FFhG6MnM
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Why is dina bee farm the map most afkers abuse? Aren't there better options? Each wing of demon prison 2f has good mob spawns.
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>>180112051

DP2 is good too but because of the way spawns work in ToS necromancers have to go where the most other afk necromancers are or the whole thing just doesn't work. Go park a necro in any of the DP2 wings with no one else on the map and see.
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>>180105410
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>505 SPR
>65% attributes for every skeletor skill
>could probably necrofarms HGs easily
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>>180112642
What do you use in the downtime?
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>>180112985
Oblique 15, Twin 5, Triple Arrow, Split Shot.
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>>180113085
>Oblique
>Twin
Meh.
I guess I'll level SR.
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Buy my shit
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>>180114107
Sell some good shit.
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>>180114107
>selling Spell Rods
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>>180113194
Oblique and Twin aren't bad. They're both ~300% x2. It doesn't compare to Split's 600%x1 and 1200%x2 though.
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Any cleric based class protip for healing tiles:

Put them to the side(s) of a fight and not directly in the middle. Since you'll blow what could have been a several K heal when johnny fucktard takes 1 damage and quality IMC code determines he needs to soak two tile or more at once to heal this up.

It also compensates for pet and summon people in general who are going to be in mid range/hugging the boss with the melee to an extent.

Also knockbacks into them aren't as rough since well- It's kind of a win win. It patches up anyone who ate an AOE.

The bonus is- It's a retard test. If someone is surrounded by a gigantic field of tiles 3 inches on their screen away from where they are standing and they die. It's entirely their own fault.

If anyone ever cries about you not stuffing the tiles directly into their gaping bloody anus- Promptly mock them.
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>>180112642

cute
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>>180115278
>not using it to nuke

if anyone needs heal they'll pot.
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>>180115278
This, just put the heal tiles slightly away from the fight dropping them off CD.
They last a ton anyway.
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>>180115509

I'm astounded by the sheer amount of morons who don't carry potions at all from levels 200+

Condensed are piss cheap and continue to heal you for a bit after consuming.
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>>180115278
Hard mode healing training: bokor3 with maxed zombify.
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>>180115298
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hello gay faggots, fans of dicks
i want to play this game because it has necromancer, i can full-autism-grind 12 hours per day if it's fun

is the game fun?
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>>180115297
Don't hit on me silly boys.
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>>180115981
hello fellow gay faggot dicklover,
necro is shit here, like no exp grind, but you can farm items/money all day

its fun and shit
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>>180115981
no, go play ff14
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>>180116109
nice fast answer
is eu dead?
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>>180116231
EU is fine, but it's American hours so prepare for shitposting.
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>>180115981
Here's how your grind goes
You suffer rolling a full SPR Necromancer for a week at most
Then you AFK in bees 24/6 while you go play another game
Come back to spend your HARD EARNED HONEST WORK silver on whatever and completely ruin the market for idiots who were dumb enough to play this steaming pile
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What's the most fansevicey thing this game has to offer?
Looking fot boobs, sexyness, cuteness, etc...
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>>180116117
xiv isnt fun either

its actually quite shit and im surprised people pay for it
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>>180116387
boys
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>>180116387
Archers
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>>180116460
if it was f2p i think i'd spend my weekends there, but it isn't and i don't think 14€ per month is enough for me to visit and leave
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>>180116387
Archers are only good for sex appeal. They have a lot of meatsack revealing TP costumes.
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>>180116231
Come join CoffeeHouse, we will teach you.
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>check my linker
>cast link
>energy bolt the mob
>the link breaks

oh wow, it doesnt even last a single energy bolt now? now all we need is chrono to get pass to reduce cooldown by skillLevel seconds and Wizards will be 'balanced'.
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>>180117318
Try leveling joint penalty above 1 numbnuts
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>>180116460

FFXIV just feels like slower chunkier global cooldown WoW to me. I think the "pretty" aesthetic just tricks people.
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>>180117924
Honestly I like WoW's aesthetic more. I've never been a fan of Japanese character design.
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>>180116387
Cute is one of the game's main appeals, but also some lewd for when you want it.

Click View for this 3d model too. https://tos.neet.tv/items/633008
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>>180118872
is this a microtransaction item?
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>>180119161
rng cash shop box and ingame market
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Can someone explain to me how the EXP / Drop rate mutliplier works. Do I still get into the same queue with those who didn't multiply?
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>>180117318
>Linker links mobs
>Hangman it
>Cannon blast it
>Everything and more is dead before the linker finishes his attack animation
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>>180119417
Items dropped and Exp is x2 or 3x. Yes, same que. x2 x3 entries used. Nothing else different.
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>>180119161
>micro
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>>180119580
Okay, thanks.
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>>180117414
It's level 10. I literally tried using on hunting grounds and it just holds them off for a hit.
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wtf is this guy talking about, even magic missile+jp combo works. stop autoattacking with cafrisun sacrament
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>>180119161
It is a korean mmo so there's a lot of fanservicey premium items.
https://tos.neet.tv/items?group=Premium&type=Outer&order=cdated&f=1

But these are the costumes you can get from just playing the game, comes with the classes you choose. Male and Female versions are under the same link, but look different.
https://tos.neet.tv/items?group=Armor&type=Outer&order=cdated&f=1
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>>180120180
>forest fairy outfit
Holy fuck I want it. Has it been out yet?
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>>180112051
Bees used to spawn like 10x more bees and people can't let go. Just like they can't let go of wiz 3 when there's no need for QC with no attribute when you have surespell.
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>>180119865
Highground monsters have high hp
try using it with higher scaling attacks
Why do you expect to use energy bolt at that point?
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>>180120587
What the fuck are you smoking, I'm literally casting a just casting a single EB to test how many hits it actually withstand, and it is breaking with a single one. 300 HG.

Test it if you're not believing me.
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>>180120180
>https://tos.neet.tv/items/624531
Is there anyone in this game that actually likes this one?
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>>180120180
https://tos.neet.tv/items/623118
wat
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>>180120861
Kannushi is just male miko
https://tos.neet.tv/items/623117
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>>180120357
Not yet, despite being in the files for a while already.

>>180120813
I swear I've never seen anyone wear that, because it's horrible.

>>180120861
Placeholder images.
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>>180120813
>male

No one gives a single fuck about male outfits in this game.
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>>180120781
use Kundela Slash or Ngadhundi

>>180120357
Not in ITOS yet
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Briquetting could be actually good if you could use awakening stones with it.
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>>180121856

It would probably cost more money than an arab nation but does it improve the base values or the end value?

Merging two transcended items could be useful if it takes in the final values.
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Can someone post the top korean builds from nexon site?
Google is failing me.
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Is it cheaper to buy trash cards or reroll cubes? I remember someone trying to prove that the first reroll is almost guaranteed to be a card (50dg only?) but should avoid the second reroll.
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>>180122215
Base value. Min and Max values are rolled separately. At max skill level you can have up to 12% more/less damage.
Sacrificed item doesn't influence the stats.
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>>180121181
>Using this was the most fun I had in this game
https://tos.neet.tv/items/620104
Begging for an R9 return
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>>180122271

It's always going to be cheaper to reroll shadowgaler cubes than buying them from market unless cards go below 50k or something.

In my experience, a shadowgaler cube has a card within 1 reroll 50% of the time and 2 rerolls 90% of the time. If you reroll twice you always got a talt (13k) and sometimes a silver bar (30k) or gold bar (50k) so even if you don't get a card it's not so bad.
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>>180122848
Thanks, I'm going to try my luck and reroll my shadowgaler cubes then.
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>>180122618
I really don't understand the Centurion hype. We got to play with it in iCBT2 and it was just clunky trash, which is probably why they removed it. I doubt they'll add it back, the only thing people even used it for in iCBT2 was to kidnap people, and that would probably be fixed if they rereleased it.
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>>180123441
>I really don't understand the Centurion hype
>reduces the party cooldowns by 50% for like two minutes
>super sentai homage
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>>180123441
I loved the costume and the concept
If the skills work it even has potential to be a damn better support than chrono
I just want to get in a dungeon and get in ATTACK FORMATION
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>>180123813
>worse pass
>gay show reference

>>180123896
>worse pass
>fuck off I'm controlling my own character nigger
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>>180124169
>worse pass
retard
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>>180124267
>50%
>vs straight up 25 seconds that completely resets most cooldowns
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>>180124392
Good shitpost, retard
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>>180124169

You could pair it with pass and have near infinite high end ability spam.

You loathesome retard.
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Nerf Pass
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>>180124493
Yeah we should waste more party slots on cooldown reduction slutbags. Just when I thought the meta couldn't get any worse. Let's just give Scouts their Pass skill too. Now we can have 3 required party slots for cooldown reduction.
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>>180124663

You are literally worse than hitler.

>Cool abilities that aren't just filler garbage.

>Could be utilized better than pass for party makeups that are small combo cooldown oriented

>MUH SLOOOOOT WAHHHHH

You could be given a hundred dollar bill and fucking whine about how it was folded.
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Pass should be a buff that halves cool downs for several minutes.
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>>180124663
>follows the meta like a brainless slut
>complains when the meta changes
>too fucking dumb to even contemplate the fact he's not forced to follow the meta
are you ex-CNL by any chance?
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>>180124847
>Gets knocked off by Swift Step
Perfect.
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>>180124818
Wow, another cooldown reduction class that makes them 100% required for every party. Amazing, so unique except for the other class that has it. I can't wait to have 4/5 party slots occupied by support and then 1 Elememe with 0 cooldown mastema and frost cloud. Amazing fun.
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>>180125056

>Help I cannot think outside of my box HELP I cannot recognize that circle synergy is a thing and one might be better for some circumstances than the other oh god I'm drowning in my own spit halepaghadw

There's your last response, dipshit.
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>>180125056
Wow, another damage class that makes them 100% required for every party. Amazing, so unique except for the other class that has it. I can't wait to have 4/5 party slots occupied by damage and then 1 cryochrono with ice tree and pass. Amazing fun.
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>>180125056
Just make squires arrest be like links, and then you can use pelt to draw enemies, link them, and also provide cooldowns. Chronolinkers won't be needed.
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Centurion is fine and dandy but where's my goddamn luchador.

I -NEED- it.
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>>180122848
You also get tons of useless shit like Silver Falchion and other shitty weapons.
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>>180125414

Ok? It's still cheaper than buying cards.
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>>180125398
What exactly do you want from this?
Monk for swordies but no HADOUKEN?
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>more class get CD reduction skills
>which brings more variety since only 2 have it
>hurr durr you need ALL the CD reduction classes all the time
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>>180125483

Don't even care. I want it for >Fun

Im expecting grapples and zangief LARIET and some sort of jump based attack.
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>>180125212
>I have no counter argument so I just won't try!

>>180125274
Damage classes actually are unique. I guess if you're too poor or too dumb to play a DPS class you wouldn't know, you'll just keep making shit that requires no thought or investment and then complain about how you have nothing to do outside of daily chores because you literally can't do anything by yourself.

>>180125304
Sit where you belong, faggot, in town logged off.
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>>180125571
Hold the fuck up
Which one other than chrono has CD reduction currently?
Don't say centurion
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>>180125737
>Damage classes actually are unique
stopped reading there
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>>180125737

Here's your (you)
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>>180125571
Are you retarded? The meta right now is literally to bring TWO CHRONOMANCERS because Pass is that good. I know you're just some faggot that can't clear past the 5th floor, so just shut the fuck up and let the big boys talk.
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>>180125830
Diev
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>>180125593
>six skills
>all of them are basically giant swing and stomping kick
>>180125830
Diev.
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>>180125830
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>>180125859
>the meta is 2 chrono
>a (a single) [one] korean party
>the meta
Nigger koreans clear with whatever they have, one of those 40F party has a fucking cryokinoRC, tell me how is that meta,
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>>180125830
>Diev nerfed so hard people forget it even existed

kek
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>>180125998
but anon, that is literally meta.

remember that one time when the korean stage10 necroPyro did et.. it was instantly meta
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>>180126107
Diev was barely touched, Meltsis and PD were.
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Can we get R9 already? Archer has been so fucking shit in R8 it's killing my will to play.
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>>180125902

A non shit version of giant swing that was basically a spinning throw would be good though.

A boss stunning dropkick would be sick.


Who the fuck knows with IMC though- Some early circles and hidden classes get amazing shit- Some get half filler trash. It's a wait and see thing beyond wishing for ponies at this point.
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>>180126360

They were shit since R7
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>>180126798
>Fletchers
Yeah no
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>>180127026

>single target meme

By that logic Rogues were great too.
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this will never be you
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>>180126360
No.
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>>180127195

It was at one point and I want to die of cringe remembering those days.
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>>180127195
>Only 1 (one) is in a guild
I'm glad it's not me, I know what's happening here
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>>180127120
>world bosses weren't relevant in r7
How to spot someone that didn't play in it.
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>>180127195>>180127460

>My wife's guild
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>>180127479

They were as relevant as they are now which means that they werent in the first place.
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>>180127195
Every time.
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>>180127195
The Ilovedavid dude is a guy for sure
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>>180127613
>sissel and glad bad recipes were selling at 10 millions
Yeah not relevant at all
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>It's another "catly can't get (you)s by acting gay anymore so he goes full shitpost" episode
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>>180127613
The best non-Lolo weapons were from demon lord world boss, people just didn't want to do them because nobody knew what the fuck they were doing so they always took an hour. Also Audra, Winrunners, and Glads were extremely desired, and Toy Hammer at one point was best in slot for Chaplains.
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>>180128216

They still do and people don't give a fuck about them.

>>180128408

Those are still being camped m8
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>>180128760
>They still do
No the RECIPES don't, they are worth jack shit now.
BBs were at 1-2 millions before, the most expensive parts were the recipes.
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>field/world bosses
What? Why aren't you farming boss cubes, anon? They're gonna be really wanted when the update with new pract accessories arrives in iTOS.
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Can I still do this thing? He reached max level within 12 hours and no exp cards used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywh2QuAy_LI
Last time I played was I guess 6 months ago.
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>>180129054

>he doesn't know
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>>180127195
Good
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>>180129283
W-What?
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>>180129141
You could have a while ago
All of that free exp expired
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>>180129651
So grinding is back to shit now? Still no one queuing on dungeons? I actually want to play ToS again.
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>>180129875
>I actually want to play ToS
You brain damaged?
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WHY
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>>180129875
Leveling is easy
Reach level 50 and ride the dungeons/missions to 300+
If you're not dedicated to leveling it still takes time but it's definitely much easier
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>>180129141
You can now, if you have a lot of resets, multiply, tomes and all shits. And faster then 12h too.

>>180129875
>grinding
No need. You can after 200 if you want.
Dungeons or/and Quests all the way.
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>>180129054
>she hoards current wb cubes
>she literally doesn't know
>she unironcially doesn't know the truth
LOL
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>>180130124
>farming Caro Antenna for my Bow
>Archer sucks anyway and it won't be saved until R9 if that
>At R9 new weapons will be released anyway

Can someone just shoot me so I don't have to play this shit game anymore?
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>>180130708

Why the fuck are you making by far the hardest orange weapon if you acknowledge that rank 9 will invalidate it anyway?
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>>180130708
new bow won't be much better lol, relax

in fact, I can even see the new orange weapons requiring the current ones in their recipes
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>>180130974
>>180130843
It doesn't really seem that hard farming as a Thaum or Corsair. I get 2-3 Caro Antenna an hour as Corsair since you can just pillage DPK mats. I also get a ton of Orange Grummer Antenna and Leafnut Tails that I just sell. It just feels so fucking pointless to farm when even if I have it stage 10 transcended and +21, I'll still be outclassed by literally any Swordie or Wizard DPS build with minimal investment.

>new bow won't be much better
The orange bow isn't that great to begin with, 44 DEX is useless for almost every Archer class, and the tiny amount of crit rate/damage is just whatever as well.
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>>180130974

Compare a purple pract weapon to the very best rank 7 weapon. It's not even close.
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people are really paying 4m for 120 atk / matk hats, lol

bought that shit for my characters (3 sets) when they costed like 300k or so
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>>180132187
lol ur so cool
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>>180129283
>>180130124

https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items?order=cdated&f=1&page=3

Hmm, so what's the difference between the shining cubes and the normal ones?
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>>180132853
https://translate.google.com/?source=gtx_c#auto/en/-%20%EA%B3%A0%EA%B8%89%20%EC%95%84%EC%9D%B4%ED%85%9C%EC%9D%B4%20%EB%82%98%EC%98%AC%20%ED%99%95%EB%A5%A0%EC%9D%B4%20%EC%A1%B0%EA%B8%88%20%EB%86%92%EC%8A%B5%EB%8B%88%EB%8B%A4.
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>>180132853
That's not the issue.

This is the issue:
https://tos.neet.tv/items/642621
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/642621
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/642635
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Should I just be amassing silver for R9 if I have no interest in current Solmiki/ET?

I really want to pump funds into my Wugushi, but my Wugushi is currently a build I don't like and I don't know if they'll have another reset event ever.
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>>180133427
Well, fuck. I thought that would be the same with Agny. I hoarded a lot of Flammidus cubes and opened them after they added Agny to iTOS so I could sell the recipes at higher prices.

Okay then. Let me hope I get at least one Helga card, because I already have 3 of each demon lord cube (except for Rexipher).
>>
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31116668h.4f5f6a75.112f4f5a74.253545.1325455171

Can I play Mergen without Falconer? I just really hate Falconer. Especially since it doesn't benefit Wugushi in any way.

I took 4 points in Zhendu for the poison resistance debuff as I plan to have my gf level a PD2 with me and it'll increase her damage too. I've tried Jincan Gu this patch, but the insects don't seem to scale with anything and the damage increased by STR that it's talking about is the Jincan Gu tick damage, that ticks for ~1k every second even with 430 STR. The insects attack for ~3k-4k but don't scale with anything besides Jincan Gu level as far as I can tell.

Has anyone actually tried the 20m silver attribute that makes Spread Shot ricochet? I really want to try it, but I'd rather not spend 20m on my current Mergen just to have to spend 20m again on this Mergen.
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>>180136961
What Archer premium outfits should I buy for tiddies? No point investing in a weapon since Archers suck anyway.
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>>180137157
Archer Ceremonial or Archer Trump.
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>>180137360
Any others? I don't like the Trump outfit, Ceremonial is cute though.
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>>180137418
Scout
Rogue
Storage keeper costume??
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So i need an cheap, fun and not meme build for a new char. Any tips? Can be any class path
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>>180138015
Yeah, I have Scout in my build, Rogue is SHIT! I already have Storage Keeper, but I think it's more cute for the scarf than bulging sacks of succulent girl meat.
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Is this a good sapper3 falcon3 build?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311555eee.1a284a5161.152d41516a7a85.11213a4f516188b3c5
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>>180138683
CryoChronoSage
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>>180138683
CryoChronoSage is the cheapest and most effective build in the game.

Cleric2 Priest2 XX PD2 is also great for soloing while being good in ET.

Archer2 XXX Falcon3 is cheap compared to other DPS classes, not near as cheap as PD2 or CryoChrono, but is the best physical support in the game. Doesn't need a weapon or anything, just 20m for the Circling: Expand attribute, and then you're done "gearing" it.
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>>180138852
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311555eee.1a23354a5161.152d41516a7a85.112136415f618ab5c5

fixed it for you. pheasant is really good, and circling only requires 6 points
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>>180138852
I don't know anything about Sapper, but your Falcon and Archer build is complete trash.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311555eee.354a5a65.1425314f6a7a.1135435f618ab5c5

I fixed it, ask for specific skill changes if you want me to explain it.
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W-what's a good price for exchange medal items to trade in?
Or.. Are Elixirs the best?
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>>180140123
I saw someone selling any exchange costume for 4m in shout, and I don't think anyone bought one because they were spamming it for a while.
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>>180140123

I don't know, but you just reminded me I bought Elixirs for 250k each a while ago because I thought they were 15 medals like every other item. Now I want to kill myself again.
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>>180139610
>>180139880
I can't really do anything about the archer skill as I'm already 140 so need to wait for a reset event or buy a skill reset for $60. But for Sapper and Falcon you both have almost the same thing but what I don't get is why the other one has 15 detonation. I have no clue how to even use it so I just left it at one for now.
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>>180139880
why is multishot 0? are you retarded?

>>180140630
i didn't change any of your sapper skill allocations because i think it boils down to personal preference, but detonate is good to have max'd
my sapper3 is
claymore15
detonate15
broom10
spike5
and i am happy with it
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>>180140630
You detonate magic circles and traps. You can blow up Cleric heal tiles and stuff to do 890% damage per tile at level 15, so 890%x4 max. It also does insane damage on flying monsters because of an attribute, which most ground tiles can't hit anyway.
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Is QS3 the only Archer that uses DEX? Anything else that doesn't use QS3 AA should just pump all STR?
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>>180140980
Multishot? More like... MULTISHIT. I have it at level 15 on my Archer3 and I HATE IT. It scales like shit now and the damage is just awful.
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>>180141231
Reiter3 is literally good Qs3
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What stats do I use for corsair? Looking to make a farming char.
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>>180141231
I have 100 DEX on my Archer3 Scout3 Falcon Mergen because the attack speed really makes a difference when you have like 6 skills that use speed of attack. Otherwise ignore DEX, which blows ass because the 315 bow has 44 DEX on it.
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>>180141472
dex
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>>180140980
So you asked for your falcon to be renamed and they renamed your Hoglan. Ok that made me chuckle.

Also I'm pretty happy with my sapper build as for my archer I really need to wait for a reset event since I fucked that up already.
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>>180141564
Full dex? I see people recommending 200~ dex and 1:1 STR/DEX
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>>180141634
The problem I think is that IMC refers to the Falconer's companion as a Hawk. In their threadbare understanding of English, their gookle translate thought "falcon" rhymed with "hoglan"
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>>180141723
go full dex for maximun pillage.
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>>180141392
it has very cheap attributes and is a good filler, especially for sap3falc3 which has high cooldowns. It also works very well with circling and hits more enemies the more aoe attack you have.

retard/misinfo confirmed
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>>180141856
Yeah, I don't play Sapper Falconer, that's why I'm not recommending Multishot. Sapper is overrated and GAY. I'd play QS Falcon before Sapper Falcon, and I fucking hate QS. Ranger Falcon all the way, bitchboy.
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>>180141780

>Calling a FALCONer's pet a hawk

Are koreans the -dumbest- of all asians or..?
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>>180142152
>>180141780
Well, its "Hawk" at ingame Companion Trader too.
Play the dumb game
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Join public 1-10f ET party
me: "hey guys I got symbol wanna skip 1-5?"
retard party leader: "naa we need more essence because we are complete fucking scrubs"

We proceed to do 1-10f with no complications
Shitter manages to die to 10f boss
We kill the boss without him
Shitty leader is the priest and he keeps trying to Res the dead shitter
Misses his Res every time
So concentrated on failing his Res he doesn't click abandon
No cubes for anyone
me: "wtf you didn't click abandon we have to go to 15f now"
He doesn't understand and keeps trying to res the dead elememe because she's probably a gurl gaymer and the betacuck really wants those goodboy whiteknight points.
No one else in the party says anything about continuing
Jesus fuck, why are Klainiggers so fucking bad.
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>>180142507

That's -still- retarded.
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>>180142701
of-course
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>>180142667
You wanted the popular server
You got it
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>>180142667

I'm not yet doing ET or anything and it's already fucking agony.

>People are allergic to heal tiles except when they demand them shoved directly into their distended anus

>Niggers wearing cafmeme-sun at 300+ and dying before doing that SICK EXTRA DAMAGE LINE BRAH

>Loathesome archeretards screaming when they eat shit due to chronically standing near the bosses asshole- Not even rogue circle either.

>Non-tanky swordies with fucking provoke obviously on

I want the difficulty nerf to be reverted on mobs and dungeon content. We need a culling grind wall again.
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>>180142667
>>180142985
That's the problem with giving too many compensation for server issues. People get to max level without even knowing the basics of the game. Hell, earlier today I saw someone sending a shout to ask where Woods of Linked Bridges is. I think ToS is the only game where players with maxed or high level characters are completely clueless.
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>>180141780
Btw I have no clue on weapons, 2 hand bow or Crossbow? I see that the Crossbow has an attribute so I don't know if I should go for a dagger + crossbow combo or stick to 2 hand bows.
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>she plays Archer
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>>180143240
I really wish they'd stuck to their original 1-200=tutorial 200+=old school grindan' that the game launched with and just added more grinding maps+drops to existing monsters to make farming them actually rewarding outside the xp. The ease of rolling alts is also I think a big culprit for why so many players constantly chase the meta and never actually get to ET/Solmiki because they don't want to invest in a "suboptimal" character if they can just roll the next big thing in a week.
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>>180142985
Cafsimeme will only last for me till I get my kaulas set to do ET on my future falconer which is not that hard since I got something on the market for 12m right now.

Please buy my Pajoritas Dagger[2] so I can get gears and attributes for my alts ;_;
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>>180143240
This. To much fast level compensation.
I made a PD2 with them, its 330 now, i didnt even level very fast, got decent gear from my other chars at it but im not sure if i do the aids 'rotation' correct. Things dont die that fast, some survive.
But that is just a alt and i dont plan to play it much.
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>>180143707
I just hope the R9 exp curve is really brutal, otherwise people will get to R9+class15 in the first day. I also expect R9 maps to be as brutal as inner wall maps from when they launched R8.
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>>180144350
>I also expect R9 maps to be as brutal as inner wall maps from when they launched R8.
Not gonna happen after combat rework.
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>>180144587
Removing base damage was a good change but monster attack power needs to be higher, it's way too easy to hit the 70% reduction soft cap even with full leather.
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>>180144350
Most people still have at the very least Lv14 exp cards at leftover, reaching next level cap will be a breeze regardless.
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>""""action RPG"""" style MMO
>arrows and magic are undodgeable

Uhmmmmm...?

Hellooooooo......?
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>>180143876
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>>180145429
>If you outrun a projectile it will disappear and hit you anyway
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>>180145570
Boobies should be bigger.
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>>180145429
>""""action RPG"""" style MMO
>TOS
>falling for memes
anon please

you also started to play this because its "like RO" or "a cute Diablo"?
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>>180143446
Asking again

2 hand bow or 1 hand bow or is it preference again?
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>>180145972
2H bow, may as well get your higher base damage
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>>180145429
>>180145871
but tos IS an action rpg-styled ro-like cute diablo game.
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>>180146957
I want to forcefully impregnate a Priest against her will.
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>>180093642
But what if i like to see a cute girl everytime i play?
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>>180146267
Ok cool so sticking to it then. Thanks.
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>>180145851
What's the build to do this and only this?
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>>180131307
>doesn't really seem that hard
>2-3 Caro Antenna AN HOUR
Just end my life right now so I won't face this evil.
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>>180131307
Do you really get alot from corsair?
2-3 caro antenna an hour sounds godlike to me as thauma
respawn is just too slow and sparse
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>>180148615
>respawn rate is too slow and sparse
Just sprint all over the map, I kill the Leafnuts and Grummers because they also drop good mats. I got 2x Leafnut tail and 2x Grummer Antenna in that same hour. I can see how it'd be bad as a Thaum though since you rely on linking them up and swelling.

>>180148091
It's not that bad, I just grind a couple a day and I'll be there eventually.
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>>180131307
Have you tried this duo with an Oracle Kabba at all? The combo works damn good for Galoks at least.
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>>180149046
I don't have any friends, and if I did I'd rather not stop every minute or whatever while they set up their clones. Doesn't really seem worth it since I'm not getting the stuff from DPK, I'm getting it from pillage.
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>>180148869
What Corsair build do you use?
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>>180095539
why is mia in FP on ktos and some faggot reddit guild in itos?
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>>180149958
I'm Sword3 Highlander2 Corsair3, I'll probably take Shinobi as my R9, but I really like Sword3 and Highlander2 complements it really well.

You can do Sword3 Barb Corsair3 Shinobi if you want to kill bosses at R8, it'll probably be okay for world bosses when they come out and you'll give your party the ability to pillage a cube.
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Is this anime tiddies build good?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4112238ff.1a2a345561.11233a45516595.152535.25314151617195.1a3a4595
Would it be better with diev 3 or oracle3?
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>>180150591
What are you even trying to accomplish? I can't even tell what the goal of your build is.
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>>180150767
I want to make a well rounded support character with oracle in build.
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>>180151392
Oh, good luck with that.
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>>180150591
I have this as a diev3, don't bother, only benefit is laima, damage is shit, and it feels bad. I have to use heal to farm shit under my level, but I almost always pair it with friend who has DPE or Swell Body+JP though.

What's the goal exactly though? Kabbalist seems like shit outside of farming, Ein Sof, why would you need more than 3? 50s duration 60s CD so you will lose that HP, but more importantly is that even if it was permanent uptime some cunt will run over your Ein Sof on the second cast pretty often enough.

Clone without points into Gem/Notari is pointless. Good job skipping Double Chance, it's honestly total shit, I was hoping it would last for a time allowing those doublehits, but it doesn't after the first proc it disappears from what I've played around with it.

For clone you only need 1Gem/1Not
No need for Resurrection past 2 that I can see, better off in Monstrance the few times you bother to use it or literally anywhere else.
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>>180151925
>why would you need more than 3?
Because I have no idea how these tricky jews work.
>No need for Resurrection past 2
k
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>>180151392
Cleric2 Diev3 Oracle1 Priest1 Taoist1
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>>180153072
>Taoist1
Is it even good?
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>>180153331
Its purpose is to pass ET interviews. If you're not into that, you could get something else.

If you wanna have an easier time leveling, I'd suggest dropping Oracle for Miko. With Healbombs/Cure/Hamaya/Gohei, you'll have no issues in questing.
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Thanks pet i guess
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>>180153663
STOP WAKING UP SO EARLY AND GOING TO BED SO LATE
It's unhealthy and I worry about you.
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>>180153842
How will people know he's not a casual if he isn't on the game 22 hours a day?
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Rod3 or Hop3 for a Sw3 > ??? > Shinobi > Murm build?
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>>180153663
nigga do you just wake up and start farming dpk shit in the morning
you need to wake up for real
Seriously hope you're not an adult neet or something like that
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>>180153842
But i have 7+ hours of sleep every day
I just woke and did a multiplied 290
>>180153989
i have part time now, morning DPK before that is comfiest time

Remember to subscribe
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>>180154102
Liked commented and subscribed.

Reroll Corsair for farming Yellow Caro. You won't regret it. Thaum is better for things that're more grouped up.

t. proud owner of Corsair, Thaum, and AFKNecro that does nothing but farm silver in this kusoge
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>>180154102
>part time
Alright thats something at least
Cheers mate
>>180154261
I'm seriously considering making one
Its too fucking annoying having to deal with constant dpk issues when I can just circumvent it all and get some nice pure RNG from corsair without being infuenced by other nigs in the map
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>>180154102
>>180154102
You're a cute rodent. Have some other rodent.
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>Join salad party that is shouted in the chat
>teleport over
>Huh, I'm not in the party anymore
>Click on shout link again
>Immediately kicked
>No clue why, I don't even think I've met this guy before
>Could just be freeing the space for another member that's coming, but I'd imagine he should've gotten anyone he was planning to party with before shouting
>Block him so I don't end up clicking any other party links by this guy again
>Later get whispered by someone else, asking why I had the audacity to block him

What is this autism
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>>180154538
Ask them further and explain everything in detail in here.
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>>180154538
sounds bullshit

you dont know if you're being blocked by someone
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>>180154538
Ask further why he kicked you from party twice, post response for laughs.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11116888e.113f495f85.114495b5.1f263151778a95.2135445174
How's this?
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>>180154261
I had a corsair, resetted it into a squire
Kinda miss it
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>>180154674
Nah, the message stating you're blocking someone comes up when you do certain things.
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>>180154674
You don't see messages from people who have you blocked, it's pretty easy to tell.
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>>180154803
Upload TP remover somewhere please, all downloads seem to be dead.
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>>180154895
you can get it in the discontinued addons thread on formu
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>>180154967
Thanks.
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>>180154261
Whats your corsair build?
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What sort of stat spread should I be looking to end up at for a shinobi meme-illo build?
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I haven't played in forever, does IMC still kneejerk nerf anything usable that players find?
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>>180116387
healmage
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>>180154784
>gung ho on a dex character
>thrust when you have iron hook+keel haul
>embowel at all
>no restrain
>DWA so low
>dust devil at all
Try this
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11116888e.234f5f6785.4595b5.1a25355a8a95.21354574
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>>180155724
IMC is """"fixing"""" """"""""""""bugs"""""""""""", silly anon.
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>>180156164
I just want to abuse its farming capability, my ping is too bad to take advantage of all this auto attack fun. Thanks for the suggestion still.
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Can this be a fine Pirate?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111222888.3a4a556471.31445a657a8a95.1f5a758a95
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>>180156358
So don't expect any class combo to stay good for long. Gotcha.

Are mages still 100% reliant on cds to do damage?
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>>180156421
> my ping is too bad to take advantage of all this auto attack fun
Consider thaumafeather linkerfoot.
>>180156589
Having HL at C2 is much much better than having swordsman at C2, especially when you have crosscut bleed.
>>180156719
>mages
>plural
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>>180156919
yeah but what about the last rank? Is shinobi required for Corsair? The only think it has to offer are kunai and hours of camping for a shitty flower
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>>180156164
What in the fuck? You must not even play Corsair.

>>180154784
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11116888e.3f4f5a85.4595b5.122b31517f8a95.21354574

Please don't put your DEX over 200, I'd say you're fine with just 150 or so unless you have fucking negative ping or some shit.

There's no reason to get Restrain in a farming build, Restrain is a PvP skill, pretty pointless outside of that since the stun barely lasts any time and the slow is pointless because you want things to come to you faster if you're farming. Max Gung Ho and Concentrate, both give decent damage. Always use Concentrate before a Pistol Shot. You don't need Bash knock down because there's no point in knocking shit down without Doppel.

Get 2 in Jolly Roger for Corsair just for the attribute. You can use it as a pseudo Swash Buckling at 1, but the attribute is pretty good for HG parties and shit. The missile damage increase will never ever be useful ever. DWA is a good filler skill, but you only use it when everything else is on cooldown, and since you have Fencer in the build that'll probably never happen. Dust Devil is fucking great post renewal, CC, great damage, hits everything around you, I actually like it more than Hexen now. I like Hook just to keep shit in place, but there's no reason to level Keel Haul. It does good damage but you can't use it on bosses or with the attribute turned on, just take a point in it for fun.

I don't know what this build is for, but if you want to use it for bossing at all, Shinobi is a better choice than Fencer, but for farming shit Fencer is nice since it has a lot of low CD skills, a Pierce debuff for Hexen, and a cute costume.
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>>180156919
What happened to mages? I liked pyro > ele before
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>>180157029
>yeah but what about the last rank?
What do you mean? Sw3HL2Cor3 is 8 ranks.
>>180157031
>What in the fuck? You must not even play Corsair.
I deleted it last Friday because I needed a slot for a hawk.
The worst decision I ever made in ToS.
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>>180157321
IMC'd.
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>just noticed I forgot to take the other half of the criminal rewards out of the mail and now they're gone
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>oh i have this silver anvil from event expiring
>lets try i have still 7 potential left on my weapon
>weapon is now 0 potential, needed to use 13 golden anvils to get back on the original weapon stage
>still need to get 1 level back
WHY THE FUCK I DIDN'T LET IT EXPIRE
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>>180157336
Rude, I deleted my Hawk to make a Wugushi. Easiest choice of my life, fuck Falconer C1. I wish I didn't put it in my build on my Scout3 Mergen.

I'm debating deleting my hamster to make another Cleric, since PD2 is what I want Wugushi to be.

I've leveled 2 different Corsair C3 builds to R8, before they got buffed. One was the now metaish Sword3 Barb Corsair3 Shinobi, which I changed into a Dragoon (trash) in the reset event, and the one I play now is Sword3 Highlander2 Corsair3.
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>>180157321
You're only allowed to play Wiz3 Ele3 Wl2 or CryoChronoSage now. Every other Wizard circle has been gutted so fucking hard they're not even worth looking at besides the meme farming build that's ONLY good for farming.
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>>180157336
Wouldn't Sw2High3 be better?
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>>180158162
Nope. Sword C3 is amazing now. 5 seconds of free extra uptime on Pain Barrier, better scaling with Gung Ho and Concentrate, and Double Slash is one of the best early skills in the game and gets increased by Crosscut bleed.

Armor Break got hit pretty hard in renewal, it's only 30% defense reduction now for 3 seconds, and Vertical Slash is okay, but not worth a circle for.
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>>180157031
Thanks a lot for the info anon, I'm going to build it like this. 100~150 DEX should be enough for me.
I want this build purely for farming, but getting Fencer's costume is an even bigger priority since there's a free circle for it.
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>>180158162
What? Of course no.
>5 seconds
And a duration attribute!
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>>180158476
So this?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111122888.3f4a5f85.354a557585.1f7f8a95
I don't think i will have any downtime on skills to DWA
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>>180155570
bump
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>>180157647
>>180157917
Does the company not like fun? Or allowing a class to function properly? Oh well, it just means I played during the peak
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>>180142152
Hi, im a professional falconer. Often times people opt to use birds that are not falcons such as kestrals since falcons are quite temperamental and will only hunt specific things.
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>>180158609
Fixed:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111122888.3f4f5a85.253a557585.122b31517f8a95

You will, trust me, I play that exact build. Just put a single point in it, it's a fun skill especially if you get a Chaplain in your group, and I use it when I don't want to kill bosses too fast, but I want to get a lot of hits in quickly for Pillage chance.

Don't max Jolly Roger, you don't get that bonus missile damage all the time, only during Fever, which will NEVER happen alone, and rarely happen in groups where it'll actually benefit you. Archers are completely dead in the meta right now, hardly anyone plays them, and the ones that do are playing Sapper Falcon, which doesn't do very much missile damage. I maxed Jolly Roger and I absolutely regret it.

Iron Hook is a straight up stun with a really long duration that can lock down 3 targets with the attribute. It's great for Archer/Wizard monsters that have painful unavoidable spells, and you can still attack while you're doing it. Keel Haul isn't great, you can't use it on bosses, but it's still a cute and fun skill that does a lot of damage to single monsters.

Cross Guard is poop, you won't be using a 2h weapon anyway. I like having a longer uptime on Crown because it works well on some magic enemies and gives you a bigger window to use Moulinet. Cartar Stroke is decent strike damage with a low cast time, mostly just a filler skill. Remember to remove the knockback.
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>>180158873
They just have no clue what they're doing. They realize that AoE is really fucking strong in this game, which is why they nerfed Pyromancer, but they didn't even bother touching the most egregious shit like Falconer's Circling or Warlock's Mastema. They even gutted Linker so fucking hard that it's been removed from most builds.

It makes no fucking sense because you need fuckloads of AoE for ET.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111aaadc.2333495f6a85.3d51657f8a91.254555.1121334575

How does this look gents?
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>>180159530
Great! Do it!
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>>180159187
What if I wanted to make a Corsair just for dpk farming? I don't care about pvp or group content or world boss this character is JUST for solo farming dpk mats.
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>>180158873
There's a good side too. The game became super easy to play so you CAN have fun with your builds. Just don't expect to do as much damage as metafags.
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>>180159763
There's a difference in meta and needing to use 4 fireballs to kill a mob when you get 2 per cd. or an AoE skill hitting 1 mob at level 1 and 5 mobs at level 15 while doing a total of less damage than any other skill you could have from a lower tier job.
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>>180159739
That's what I use that Sword3 High2 Corsair3 build for.

A world boss build would be the Sword3 Barb Corsair3 Shinobi, because of Shinobi's burst damage.

A group focused Corsair would be some Pelt Murm abomination that would only work when group farming hunting grounds.

PvP build would have maxed Restrain, maxed Hook, maxed Pain Barrier, and would also probably be the Shinobi variant for the stealth skills.
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>>180159904
I know exactly how it feels. I have a pyro thaum.
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>Melstasis gets nerfed from a set duration to a %
>Discerning Evil gets nerfed from a set duration to a %
>Pass is the most broken on the list and it hasn't been fixed to be a %

what in the fuck IMC?
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>>180160663
>>Pass is the most broken on the list and it hasn't been fixed to be a %

?????????
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>>180145429

Better yet.

>arrows are allowed to linearly skewer enemies
>rifles don't

I know this is fantasy but sell the damn thing to me if you're gonna put guns into this.
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>>180161749
How would bullets skewer an enemy?
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>>180162396
Very painfully.
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>skip all of the 200~330 blue quest
>found out a lot of people stock on these cards for r9


Shit do I really have to do ALL of them so I will hopefully have enough exp cards to maxed out r9 the first 2 minutes of job change?
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>>180163864
>she's not prepared for R9 grand reset event
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>>180163968
Granted I only reached my first 330 last week.
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>practonium weapon for 2h sword users
>let's make it require a cash shop reset to be worth using over the 315hg weapon
ty imc
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Hope you weren't farming 315 mats!

https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1026
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>>180163864
you get a couple million silver from it so why not
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>IMC has resorted to making gambling-content pets

ahahahaha
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>pls no p2w cube to the west, we aren't koreans
>people buy p2w cubes in droves anyways
It makes sense to go full p2w now. You have noone to blame but the playerbase.
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>>180167871
It was a phenomenon I witnessed in Pangya. Every fucking month, when the Gatcha (no, not a typo) would update, there'd be a couple fags in the forum who'd spend over a fucking hundred bucks on that shit, get nothing, then whine about how this gambling content is ruining the game (even though their terrible habits were singlehandedly funding it). Then they'd give a longwinded rant about how the game wasn't ever going to see another dime from them.
Then next month rolls around with new Gatcha and they spend another hundred bucks and whine again. And when called on that shit, they'd be like "I caved." But that would imply that they actually stopped giving Ntreev money when that clearly didn't.

Gambling content brings out the worst people and is a license to print money for any publisher.
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Homing Arrow versus Parthian Shaft for an Archer who doesn't have Falconer?

Parthian is instant though sometimes a pain to use but Homing does more damage to a single target however the spell requires you charge it.
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So are we getting the practo-only recipes or not?
It looks like the recipe box is just for normal recipes.
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>>180168160
I still don't get why gambling content like this isn't regulated. It took Overwatch like 6 months to get ANY regulation and it was ONLY in china (because they have a gambling epidemic). Is the west just utterly ignorant to this stuff? Why aren't lawyers all over this shit like flies?
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>>180167871
people who care stopped playing anyways
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now every fucking gacha-buying normie will walk around with an orange weapon, great, as if it wasn't easy enough already
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How to make a squire3?
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Tosg

If this isn't the last thread i will very disapointed in you
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Is slapping on 8 ellaganos cards better than stating dex? That way I can get some atk speed as well as block pen. and eva.
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>>180168890
lol
its a free mmorpg silly retard
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>>180169046
No because that's 8 glass moles you aren't using
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>>180168890
Here come the assblasted f2p purists
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>>180169061
You can be a free mmorpg and have a cash shop full of cosmetics and character boosters, stat and skill resets are fine too
Leticia cube isn't fine, it's cancer, and they sell
The very moment the first leticia cube come in was the moment ToS lost any possible chance to recover, next will be leticia cube with Solmiki gear inside
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>>180169158
if they ever put any kind of ET gear in a leticia cube I swear I will instantly quit the game
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>People defend this shit
Literally worse than the forum jesus christ
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>>180169192
It will happen
What else left to farm hasn't been included yet in gatcha P2W? ET gear
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You know what?
This isn't the same lv 315 recipe box korea got
This is different.
I fucking bet it's RNG because you know ehehe
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>>180169201
if you ve stayed after the first letitia cube i m not sure why youd leave after the first one
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>>180169593
this have farm free BiS weapon of choice for any class
FREE BIS WEAPON NO FARM NEEDED

The first cube was cancer and this is even worse
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>97% chance to get something that pets spit out daily right now or something mostly worthless
>3% chance to get an item of relative usefulness or a mount
>even smaller chance that you'll get the item you want in that bracket
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>>180169843
It's still baseline 5m~ per 10 cubes at the very least since you can sell costumes. The chance of getting 20m per cube is just icing on the cake.
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>>180169843
Here's something else to consider; that mount takes up a character slot. So if you roll that and are already at the character limit, it's completely useless to you until you spend money for extra one. Unless you can sell it, I guess.
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>>180169843
And people will still buy it in droves..
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>>180169843
Doesn't matter, sets a precedent that instead of selling actual cool stuff (costumes etc.) they can just farm out content that they already paid to make again and again for real money.
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can we trust them?
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>>180170004
No because they can delete/edit that post later. They've done it before. Ministry of Truth always wins.
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>PD using bloodletting everywhere in canyon except the boss that actually stuns but can be prevented
Why does PD attract the most brain dead players recently?
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>>180170004
>trusting IMC
They said they hadn't any plans to import Letcia cubes in iToS
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>>180170282
Reset bandwagoners. Besides, Kabba/Oracle2/Druid2 don't have nearly as much appeal anymore.
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>>180168539
You need laws that cover it. If those laws don't exist already, there's no good angle for lawyers. When the internet is involved, jurisdiction issues make it easy for companies to evade local laws.

Now why would a politician want to make such laws? Gamers don't want the government getting involved in games. Game companies will lobby hard in opposition. Normal people will say "Who cares? Why aren't politicians spending their time on important things instead?" There's not much to be gained by pushing unpopular regulations to protect people who don't want to be protected unless those people are so numerous as to put a burden on social programs.

Regulation is a lot of work, too, and you'd need an army of officials at taxpayer expense. A Japanese game I used to play got in trouble for its gacha and was forced to change it to a system where you'd be guaranteed to get all the items eventually. After a while, when the government looked away, they added a second gacha that worked like the original one.

In the end, nobody cares enough to spend the amount of money, time, and effort required to stop retards from wasting their money on gachas.
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>>180170282
PD has always been the most popular cleric class, naturally it'd also statistically have the most retards
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Do multiply tokens increase silver as well or just exp and cubes?
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>>180170806
This makes a lot of sense, but how come in China they're so hot on gambling on games? Is it because their own intranet means they have jurisdiction on every game operating there?
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>>180170969
Everything, it's essentially running the dungeon twice/thrice in one go.
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>>180171024
Good, pet events stuffing my pockets so I have no reason to NOT use these.
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>>180170970
Yeah, the Chinese government is totalitarian and already has an army of officials policing the internet for political purposes. The party leaders are currently trying to make a big push against corruption and dirty money, and there's a lot of money laundering and bribery in the online gambling scene over there.
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>>180171261
At least they're doing one thing right I guess. Well, that and boning the west with the Paris Agreement.
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is there even such a thing as a f2p game with a good economic model?
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>>180171919
No, because F2P games cannot survive on pure cosmetics/convenience, and people will always complain about other methods of the company earning money.
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I don't understand why this general even gives a fuck. 90% of you don't have orange weapons and even less of that percent are in a position where it actually matters.
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>>180172321
>where it actually matters.
ET, right?
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>>180172337

Nope. Doesn't matter in ET. Orange vs non only matters in minigames.
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>wake up
>only 200k profit form my pardoner shop
>realize that someone nuked the channel and put a stronger blessing on my spot
>guy uses two +90 spr p2w rings

LOL
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>when (((they))) gas each other
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How does the Bazooka stance work?

Is it
1000% + 10% = 1010%
or
1000%+(1000%*10%)= 1100%
>>
>Rocksodon stats and bonus
Amazing, it's even worse than the hamster and red panda.
>>
It still annoys the shit out of me that there are so many skills that would be better with a lower CD per skill point investment but it's pretty much always duration or bust.

I mean, sure there's enough to balance around and they fuck it up already, but it's pretty common in MMOs and there are actually a good amount of skills in ToS that would benefit build diversity by changing to this, creating more specific points to aim for instead of the 1, Max, 'Enough for Attribute', Dump points.
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>>180172882
Pass
>>
Pass incoming!
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>wake up
>only 200k profit form my pardoner shop
>realize that someone nuked the channel and put a stronger blessing on my spot
>guy uses two +90 spr p2w rings

LOL
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>>180173296
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>>180173378
I wanna shove that rod up her ass so that every time she backmasks she orgasms!
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Is toy hammer still good even past 315? Red gear scales well now and 500% additional damage seems great.
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>>180173812

>still
>implying it's good at all
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would take at least +30 to make toy hammer half decent for an autoatk bot
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>>180172591
Plague Doctors?
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>>180174497
oh man I need her hat thingy
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HAPPENING
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I need a 2.0 vubbe fighter gloves
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>>180175276
>200 dpk to get a bait from enemies
>10000 fish dpk to get a rare fish
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Price check, how much is this pants worth?
https://tos.neet.tv/items/523312
There're none on market right now so I can't decide the price
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>>180175425
Just get nyx and deal with one less aoe ratio
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>>180176710
Put it for 5 millions

The maximum I'll pay for SPR memegear is 2mil though.
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>>180176734
just get solmiki leather gauntlets, they're better
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>>180177083
>just
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>>180177173
25F is easy as fuck
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>>180177083
2 weeks 30m
1 month for free
Failing 21-25F is borderline impossible
>>
JUST
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>>180177354
it's actually 20 milions in rolls
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>>180176734

I need it to be leather and I also need the +2 aoe ratio. I have lolopanther but it's only one aoe ratio and this cripples my farming a lot. I need 7 aoe ratio to hit 4 medium mobs, I even got one aoe atk ratio.
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>>180178621

I even got one aoe atk ratio HAT

fix'd
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gonna miss tos pvp music
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>>180178691
>>180178621
>she only has 7 AoE ratio
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Is there anything more subhuman than SR?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsmaJuoIp1M
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>>180179238

limacon bot is really a shit, I can't understand someone who main a SR, lol

literally a dg farming bot
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>>180179238
Anon you doing it wrong. The meta is still
>hating chronos and clerics
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>>180179238
LOL DUDE
LET ME FARM A SOLMIKI PISTOL SO I CAN CLEAR 170 DUNGEON

No man, its koreans who are subhuman
>>
Every time I play with a SR, they are completely antithetical to grouping monsters up.
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Can Corsair pillage cubes from HG monsters?
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>>180179847
Yep
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>>180179894
Holy fug is Corsair the best class in the game?
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Does anyone know how much jolly roger levels affect pillage?
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>>180180485
0
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>>180180275
You need to keep it downlow my dude
Only retards would parade the broken piece of shit that is corsair around
Imagine people start to only farm with their corsairs bypassing all DPK
The prices will sink
Stay cool my man, make a corsair but dont make a big deal out of it
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>>180179894
Oh shi? For real? Please don't be pulling my leg, cuz my heart can't go on.
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>>180180536
t. misinfo master
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>>180180627
Pillage can pillage anything from any mob or boss loots
Don't expect to Pillage purple cubes without Capybara tier of luck though, pillaging far more common boss cards like Glass Mole is once every 100 Siauli done
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>>180180642
Good good, keep up that attitude and we few Corsairs can rule the world.
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>>180179238
SOON
SR is fun in a place like Tymeris or for bullying away people from your channel when DPK farming
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>>180178621
Buy some AOE ratio potions.
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>>180181113
>getting Aspana Revolver for SR
>and not a Corsair

gay
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>>180181296
I can do it for both
Not having a corsair anymore
Please i don't want to reroll it, my lodge is getting quite full
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>>180181113
Why is there a line separating two silver values in your inventory?
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>>180181452
cwFarm addon
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>>180181430
It's okay, I deleted a character I really miss too.

RIP my sweet Wugushi.
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>>180181779
I turned it into a Squire, another great alt for farming, ET or guild utility
Tent can be a really time saver
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>>180181430
I told you resetting Corsair into fucking Squire was a bad idea.
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>>180181916
I turned my Wugu into a Scout, which is great for farming dungeons, but I still miss my Wugu. I should probably just make a PD2 instead of remaking my Wugu though.
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So Dragoon, and Corsair, are officially the best Swordman classes?
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>>180182246
this is getting tiresome already tb.qh
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>>180182246
Don't lump my beautiful Pirate with your disgusting shameless GOON.
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>>180182246
oh hey back from school already?
>>
Question

We all know that corsair as party leader makes the party get the chance to pillage items from monsters

However, what is the actual range of that effect?
Would it be possible to have an alt account corsair stay afk in a corner of the map while you farm with a real char and still reap all the benefits of the corsair being the party leader?
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>>180182367
You get a fucking buff. If you have the buff then you can pillage. If you don't then you can't pillage.
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>>180182440
Whats the range of the buff then
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>>180182367
>farm with a real char

FUCKING RUDE.
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Any word on Wugushi getting buffed?
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>>180182605
I don't think so. It's hard to keep up with kToS patch notes without Sunwhapark translating them anymore.

It doesn't need much though, I'd honestly be more happy if they reduced the cooldowns instead of increasing the poison durations back to what they were. I wish they'd rework Zhendu though, either into an "Enchant Poison" thing that scales with STR, or into some sort of detonate poison skill that deals the remaining damage of your poisons in an AoE around the target.
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>>180181113

sr tried to blly me but they got no chance, swordsman dashing is too much and my rapier is not even good
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>>180182605
Nothing new yet.
Waiting for this weeks kr patch notes.
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>>180183170
>farming dpk mats on a fucking fencer
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>>180183379
Nothing wrong with that since it clearly works and kills faster than SR
My issue with using fencer for that is that you have to input too much for it to be comfy
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>>180183379
>She doesn't play Corsair3 Fencer
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>>180183170
I bullied away some Corsair on my SR actually
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>>180183572
Corsair is shit and slow
>>180183485
Fencer1 is garbo you damn misinfo
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>>180183637
I'd say it's an okay replacement if you're too lazy to do the Shinobi quest or if you think Shinobi is overrated.

Corsair is neither shit nor slow, I'll fuck you up fugboi.
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>>180183379
>tfw you do it as a Chaplain
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>>180183379

Fencer damage is very high, cool downs are also low and since we are swordsman, we can dash 24/7 using stamina pills, waaay faster than mounted archers. I'm also corsair c1 so pillage happens from time to time.

SP cost is a bit intensive, but the speed is top tier.
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>>180183896
Chaplain won't eat your whole sp bar to kill 2 mobs at least
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>>180183829
Shinobi isn't overated
It's terrible for Corsair farming
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>>180183896
Honestly I'd do it on any character you can stomach playing for long periods of time. What's important is having fun!
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Now that I'm looking at the options again, what about Sw2High2Corsair3Fencer1 instead of Sw3Barb1?
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>>180184073
Exactly, there's no point in having Corsair in the build if you're using it to farm. Fencer has Sept which is a high hit count and good for Pillage, it has Lunge for pierce debuff with Hexen, and it has a cute costume.
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>>180184026
>waaay faster than mounted archers
Hackapells are faster than you and can avoid draining stamina by using RS
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>>180114107
what addon is that?
is it broken?
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>>180183637

Fencer c1 works as a good filler. Think of Barb c1, only better.

>lunge = cleave but without overheat and the 50 crit rate, but actually deal ok damage
>coquille = boost pierce attacks, notably kunai
>rapiers are good weapons, rapier mastery dds +15% final damage to all your attacks as long as you use dagger/naked offhand, yes, it works even for slash skills the tooltip is wrong and it works this way since the launch
>you get another good attacks
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>>180184309
Sword2 is bad, Sword3 or BUST.
>>
What's good 'Into to Swordie' class?
>>
>>180184309
Stop
Just stop

Sw3Barb1?
Just take Hl2Barb1
Sw3 is a shitty meme for shinobi
HL2 blows out Sw3 kit by a mile
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>>180184551
Pain. Barrier.

>>180184536
just b urself
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>>180184712
>PB
Stop this meme, you're not a bossing char with that shitty build
The most bossing you'll ever do is saalus
>>
Also, don't forget swash buckler
>>
Why does it seem like the same person is misinfoing every single swordsman build? I don't think I've seen someone misinfoing other class builds.
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>>180184828
>Only bosses have knockbacks/debuffs
Stop this meme
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>>180184983
He's probably a doppel
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>>180184983
He's probably a fencer
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>>180185167

Come to think of it, I haven't seen anyone saying stupid shit about doppel builds...
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>>180184983
Why dont you point out that misinfo

He's probably a dragoon
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>>180185307

Nope, I've tried before and I'm not going down that road again.

and no he isn't, because I'm dragoon2
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>>180185167
>>180185269
>>180185307
misinfo
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>>180185408
It just means you have no good arguments and that """""misinfo"""" is just alternate views on gameplay that you dont consider regular
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>>180185535

All of my arguments were met with "you're a retard, play the game". Explain what I'm supposed to say to that. It's a waste of time arguing with misinfo agents.
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>>180183896
Max out that change attribute and you get an extra 70k every 20 minutes, 140k if you park a Thaum in your grinding map and switch to it to kill white mobs that spawn.

You DID go Oracle and not Miko, right?
>>
DOOD JUST TAKE BASH
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>>180185608
Just respond with "just b urself".

It's not like it even matters how specific you spend your points. As long as you're in the general area of a good build you'll be fine for anything in the game. It's not like there's any challenging content, and the PvP scene is dead.
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>>180185307
Dragoons don't missinfo
>>
is there an actually fun dps class that has self sustain? playing elememalist for a week now and it's too glass cannon and the cooldowns suck
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>>180186010
Yeah its called the cleric tree
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>>180185971

Because we know we suck. There's just that one falseflagging retard pretending to be the forteposter.
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>>180186010
>fun
>dps
>self sustain
Cleric2Diev1Sadhu3PD2
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THOUGHTS?
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>>180185971
They just missedinfo, which is why they picked dragoon
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>>180186039
i have a healslut c2p3 but it is full spr. while it unironically has the easiest solo leveling of my 3 chars, the "AA everything" approach is kinda meh

need more spells/skills to make it interesting

>>180186047
thanks babe will check this
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>>180186061
I really want to touch those boobies.

I wonder what they feel like.

They look so soft and squishy.

I want to stick my dick through that thigh gap.

I bet her ass is amazing.

I love long hair, there needs to be more long hair wig things.
>>
>>180186187
That PD build has annoying cooldowns too
Try monk if you're into melee
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>>180186010
Clerics

and FF2 farmer, but that one cant do much and sux until FF2
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>>180186396
>>180186010
>Drain now recovers 10% HP for each spirit eaten. max 5
WL saved
>>
>tfw want the pet but dont want to spend 500$ to get a fucking virtual pet from gambling bullshit
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>>180186040
>>180186072
You need to have more faith in your Dragoon
The class is fine
It can do competitive damage and bring good melee utilities, Gae Bulg and Serpentine are strong debuffs
>>
>>180186935

No, it's not fine. Lancer brings a better debuff and the damage is only anywhere even close to competitive with all your debuffs on. There's no reason to pick Dragoon 2 over Lancer right now and that's the issue.
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>>180186918
Someone will probably sell it on the market
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>>180187019
Lancer is anything but Futureproof
Dragoon can only get better
Lancer can only get shitty
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>>180186918
just buy it for 30mil in market

>>180186935
true my good boy RMJ
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>>180187023
I doubt its tradeable
Pets usually arent but I dont know
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>>180186918
>tfw haven't spent real money on a video game in years

Being poor sucks. Someone get the gas, I'm ready to die.
>>
>>180187112
I remember Mia posting a pic of them being sold in the market.
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>>180184026
using anything but a thaum for DPK mat farming is so retarded, I honestly hope none of you guys do this
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>>180187174
Oh nice

>>180187150
Dude I'm not poor and I still dont want to spend money on this
Its just honestly a ripoff scam and I would feel bad for myself wasting money on gambling shit like this
>>
Who is that Moonbinder and why is that person doing some weird autistic screeching in shout? I am very confused.
>>
>>180187112
>>180187174
Yes, it comes from a Box. That Box is tradeable. But it was something like >>180187101
>30mil in market
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>>180187087

We're getting rank resets for certain with rank 9 so the future is irrelevant right now, and who knows when that's coming anyway.

I was fine with Dragoon2 until I saw WB defense and realized how much better Crush is for them than Serpentine.
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>>180187231
Thauma has its weakness
It can be easily contested and there is NOTHING that you can do about it
If the channels are full and some dude decides to join yours you're fucked because he'll kill your linked shit and you can only fuck off or get nothing at all
>>
>>180187258
I don't want to buy the p2w cubes or anything, I just want to buy cute hairstyles and more character slots. It costs more for me to get a hairstyle in this game that it does to get my hair cut in real life.
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>>180187384
Try getting a job or something
Or farm silver and sell for TP if you play this game lot and have decent funding

Not that hard
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>>180187357
that's when you call your guild to come help you get rid of the invader unless you can just channel jump away from it
Your guild will come help you when you ask for help, right, anon?
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>>180187357
>thauma comes into my channel and starts trying to steal my spawns
>see him link and swell something
>run over and kill them all
>2x DPK item drop and pillaged another right in his face
>he whispers me for the next 30 minutes

jesus fug
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>>180187552
Get rid of the invader?
What are they gonna do?
Wake the fuck up
And if your guild is so helpful why arent they farming with you in the first place anyways
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>>180187552

>having to leave channel whenever someone contests you like a cuck when DPK is channel bound

SR doesn't deal with this issue but then you feel like a retard for not having double drops. Honestly I prefer to just say fuck this whole system and farm silver instead to buy what I need.
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>>180187626
>2x DPK item drop and pillaged another right in his face
Yeah right
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>>180187685
b-but how do you farm silver? You can also just say "fuck the system" by rolling a Corsair and pillaging DPK mats.
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>>180187970

140 dun in 25 minutes every day for 800k, DP2 for 600k raw an hour if you have a crappy weapon, timeris for 1m/hour if you have a good one. There was a helpful anon here the other day detailing how he gets 1.2mil in tymeris with a +9 aspana.
>>
>>180187685
>>180187552
>>180187357
you dont have to leave or fight them
just teleport to other parts of the map
>>
Is there any good build I can incorporate Cataphract3 into?

I know fuck all about Swordsmen builds, tried running one but Hop3 feels weak as fuck and going fast don't seem too bad.
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>>180186061
THOUGHTS?
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>>180188047
Raw silver is really the best thing in this game
Look at the fucking shitty cubes IMC brings out again

>dpk mat boxes
>orange recipe boxes
>sharts
>enhancement cards
>gem abrasives

I swear everything thats not silver or ET gear keeps losing its value constantly
Pure silver farm will always be the best investment due to the many silver sinks in this game
>>
>>180188381
It's kind of weird that they haven't added skin tones to the game yet, but seeing nigs everywhere would be kind of annoying.

Those boobies do look delicious though, even if the pink hair is kind of silly.

Those are some really yummy thighs, I like that artists have started drawing them sort of bursting out of the kneesocks now. It's very arousing.
>>
>thoughts
>>180186061
Hot
>>180188381
Not Hot
>>
>>180188047
how the fuck do you get 800k out of 140 dung?
>>
>>180188547

750k raw, 6 talts=50k
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>>180094713

Let me illustrate better.

You are supposed to be a boy, so you can play the role of a boy to ingame grills and have them see you as a potential boyfriend

If you play as a girl, it is like they are seeing a man playing with dolls. Sorry, I meant manchild
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>>180188047
>helpful anon here the other day detailing
Mind linking the post? Can't seem to find it in the archives somehow
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>>180188735

No clue exactly how many days ago it was or how I'd find it. Maybe he's here and can help you.
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>>180188516
>>180186308
>reddit spacing
fuk off virgo
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>>180188610
>wanting to hear a boy's moan every time you play
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>>180188813
>It's kind of weird that they haven't added skin tones to the game yet, but seeing nigs everywhere would be kind of annoying.
>Those boobies do look delicious though, even if the pink hair is kind of silly.
>Those are some really yummy thighs, I like that artists have started drawing them sort of bursting out of the kneesocks now. It's very arousing.
>I really want to touch those boobies.
>I wonder what they feel like.
>They look so soft and squishy.
>I want to stick my dick through that thigh gap.
>I bet her ass is amazing.
>I love long hair, there needs to be more long hair wig things.

Here you go! Is it 4chan secret club approved now? I wouldn't want to make you feel unsafe in your hugbox.
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I know dragoon is not the best but what's the least shit build?
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>>180094713
>toon
Stop playing games, start dieting, go to the gym and eventually lose weight.
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>>180189310
Swordsman is really really overpowered, you can pick pretty much any circle you want and still do well. Just make a build on tos.neet with the classes you want and post it here for a skill build.
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>>180189420
I was actually thinking about something along the lines of this: https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111444ff.3f4a5f85.1f213f6579.1a29354155

Full Strength. But it doesn't seem to be meta since everyone else is either doppelsöldner or dragoon1 Lancer1
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>>180189310
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111444ff.3f4f5a85.1d2f3f71.1a213a4155
Either go more serpentine(lunge synergy) or more Soar( "better" damage on his own)
Spare hoplite point can go in throw or stabbing
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>>180189778
That build is fine.

>>180189894
has it right
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>>180189894
>Lunge synergy
>More than 1 point in soar
Nigger they're piercing, they all have lunge synergy
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>>180190359
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1133777ff....3a
Hey how's this?

Alternatively, I wouldn't mind throwing some fucking shields around, but going fast seems cool.
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>>180190521
Dude...
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>>180190460
Point being >More than 1 point in soar
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>>180190521
That's a pukeworthy build
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>>180190584
>>180190640
No shock there, what can I build to make cataphract okay as an alt?

I'm not looking for a main or something to toss tons of money into, I'm having fun with other characters I got plans on for that, although I do have some money making charactersI'm on Orsha so working the market is a slower process here, really regretting it but I like the guild I'm in.
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>>180189894
the fact that post renewal spear throw isn't worth any points and you take circle 3 for extra points on petty meh skills turns me off
i'd rather take barb1 to boost double slash while still having enough uptime for goon bursts for the same 50 extra crit rate and short cd
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>>180189894
Isn't spear lunge better now in terms of damage compared to pierce?
Shouldn't PB be maxed?
Isn't 5 Gae enough for the attribs?
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They need to tone down all the debuff skill mods, crush quintain has prerenewal values, same shit for moulinet, cross guard. Skyliner was nerfed to 170% but I wouldn't mind a 150%

No I'm not bitching for nerfs, I'm just asking for coherence. All damage mods like cleave, serpentine, and etc were tonnes down with the new scalling mods for skills, so was attribute damages, lancer is the biggest example of fuck up and there's others on other trees too
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>>180190521
It's good, don't listen to metafags who think they know shit when they haven't even been playing this game since closed beta.
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>>180190521
Dumb, both Cata and Dragoon have 2h spear attributes, it'd be silly to use anything but a 2h spear.

Hoplite + Pelt go pretty well together though, Hoplite has 1h spear attribute and a shield attack that gets buffed by Murmillo. Shield lob got gutted pretty hard by renewal though, but it could be fun to throw your spear and shield at someone. It'd be funny to see at least. You also get retardedly high block from Finestra + High Guard.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11333444c.254555.16263f41516a748191.1d3f4f6171.1121334575
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>>180190741
If you really want a cata you should include lancer
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111777fh

Also shield lob can't be used mounted anyway
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>>180190878
Alright, I'm gonna try this one out, Cata isn't so weak it's unplayable after a certain level without huge investment right?

I ran into something similar with my Diev3OracleKabba, has a really hard time with certain mobs. Also double chance doesn't feel too good at all when I use it, and I've yet to figure it out 100% because the tooltips are fucking terrible.
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>>180191016
Cata is shit
But you want to go fast
and thats what cata can do
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>>180191016
Cata itself was toned down pretty hard, but it still has the sanic buff and the moves are funny to use regardless
The other classes will be able to make up for the damage
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>>180191242
Alright, as long as I can get the damage elsewhere that's cool. Thanks.
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>>180191303
Please get all the "No Knockback" attributes. Catas without them are worse than fucking Hitler in dungeon runs. I'd rather have a SR """"""""""tank"""""""".
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>>180190820

Yes.
Yes.
It's not for the attributes, it's for the debuff length+more dmg.
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>>180190746
Barb1 and Hop3 are pretty much equivalent, stronger pierce and stabbing are good, barb skill are equally good
Also remember Dragoons are bros of other swordmen, a firendly doppel can provide cleave and or Zwerchhau
>>180190820
No, check Pierce skill and attributes and then Lunge
Pain Barrier 10+attribute is fine
Concentrate15+Gun Ho15 are addictive
Gae is for the debuff duration, also the damage is good, the attribute from lv5 are irrelevant
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So there's those bots who run into town, go to the blacksmith to repair, and then item merchant to sell. What would happen if you set up a shop on the blacksmith/item merchant and block the bots?
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Anyone here use dragon tooth lv 10? I used mine lv 3 because of the lack of true scaling we had before but now it maybe worth. Still there's this huge cast time... I'm a big fan of soar and I used to be Barbgoon but now I don't know what to do with this girl (currently resettled)
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>>180191759
>No, check Pierce skill and attributes and then Lunge
Pierce is only slightly better on bosses (4 hits) and inferior on everything else.
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>>180192030
It's the same cast time at all levels.
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>>180192176
Actually, even with 4 hits Pierce should do noticeably less damage than Spear Lunge if you take the CD into account.
Might be even worse than that depending if the additional hits are fake hits or not (Blessing, conc, etc).
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>>180186061
thoughts... ....
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>>180191925
Nothing. They don't use the interface to interact with things in-game.
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New Futureproof is gonna run the meetup tonight
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>>180192851
Those hips and thighs are really disproportional to the rest of her body causing her to be less attractive. The artist should probably do some anatomy studying and improve his proportions a bit.
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>>180193583
no thats most certainly not what makes her less attractive
Its the fucking shit looking face that makes it loook derpy and retarded as fuck
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>>180193671
It's a major contributor in my opinion. When the proportions are so wrong it just makes them look like some creepy fetish abomination, and totally kills my attraction. I didn't even bother looking at the face/shirt because the proportions had already killed it for me beforehand.
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>>180193849
You sound autistic

The hips are just blown out of proportion for fetish sake, looks completely fine if you go for that look and like it

that face however...
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>>180193583
>>180193671
>>180193849
>>180194132
>these posts
autism
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>>180194132
>The hips are just blown out of proportion for fetish sake
Yeah exactly, which ruins my attraction before even looking at the other stuff. I'm not giving an objective critique, I'm giving my thoughts, which is what the person who posted the picture asked for.
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>>180194282
You said it a tad too objective in my opinion
"causing her to be less attractive." As if it was an apparent and clear matter, i just had to interject there
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i hope imc is just talking outta their ass and the recipe box in the new leticia's cube is the one that requires no dpk mats
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>>180194362
Tone is difficult to express solely through text alone. I am glad we can agree that she is unattractive though, even if it is for different reasons. The extreme proportions on her hips already make her look so cartoony that I the rest doesn't really bother me anymore.
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>>180192851
very fuckable
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>>180193583
>>180193849
>>180194282
Murbish, you can't draw for shit. Shut up.
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>>180194561
Unlikely. That item looks different then the KR p2w recipe item.
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>>180192851
just what i like, a nice wide flat face
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>>180194814
I'm not Murbish, and I've never drawn a picture in my life. I get the same feeling from 3DPD when they have disgusting ass/breast implants.
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>anime
>realistic
does not compute
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>>180194561
I bets its going to be even worse
You wont be able to chose your recipe
Unlike the KR nexon version where you can CHOSE THE NO-MAT RECIPE
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>>180195064
>You wont be able to chose your recipe
>Unlike the KR nexon version where you can CHOSE THE NO-MAT RECIPE
probably this. its just another rng box.
enjoy your daggers
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>>180195142
>>180195142

kek, if you can't pick it's more or less a dummy prize. There are so many shitty worthless red recipes.
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>>180187289
>30m
Nice thats only like 60 cubes and you get it guaranteed
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>>180195142
b-but people craft the daggers, I've even seen a transcended one!
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>>180195443
strawberrycreme isn't people
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>>180195443
>dagger recipe 400k in market right now
>half of that tomorrow
just spend another 100$ goy
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>>180195572
What if I'm a masochist and I really like painful things shoved up my ass?
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>>180195572
Joke's on you, I'm an alien. I have no asshold and I must shit

Ayy
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Did they fix a lot of the shit people hated or is this game still shit?
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>>180196010

The game is good and fun now.
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>>180196010
Both!
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>>180196010
>Did they fix a lot of the shit people hated
Yes, they fixed a lot of stuff.
If you left because bugs or annoying mechanics they are probably fixed now.
There's still few new content however.
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>>180196010
They fixed the worst offenders, the 0FPS and constant crashing (mostly), but the game still has nothing but endless chores at "endgame", endless questing/dungeons to reach "endgame", and 0 gear diversity.
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>>180196073
>>180196124
>>180196147
>>180196182
Say no more i'm sold.
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>>180188547
>>180188604
>>180188047
Isn't the 170 dungeon better for silver farming?
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>>180195572
You're both shitty people
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>>180196381

Yes, it's also more than triple the time investment with a bad weapon. If you have an Aspana it's better to do the 170 because you kill the monsters in 140 so fast you might as well move to the 170.

I prefer to get 800k in 25ish min than 1m in 1 hour.
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>>180196518

Wow I went full retard, I meant double not triple.
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>>180192851
Body is decently done, wrist looks like it's broken could use some work there. Face is too flat, could fix with coloring largely
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>>180196218

Don't do it, it's shit
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Not gonna lie. I'm just happy to see hauberk again. Even though I dragged him off demon prison
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THOUGHTS?
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>>180196010
If you last played around iCBT2/Korean beta around then, they fixed a lot of the larger issues, but they haven't gotten their shit together. Market lock is still bad, at least idiots toss tokens up for 2mil~

You can really tell whoever is handling this has no cohesion from their team, it shows almost every patch and I've only been back for a month or so.
>>
is there any point whatsoever in farming 170 HG for 1st char (who is 175)?
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>>180196518
I haven't touched the 170 dungeon in a while with my DPS character, but I can somewhat solo the 290 dungeon with my 170 purple gear, gonna give the 170 a go when I get home.
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>>180197190
Some of the lower HG have decent or good gear. or even BiS armors.

But you should focus on leveling. Get to 317, get Pract Box, farm or buy a cheap 315 blue weapon, go back to low HGs later.
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>>180197440
alright thanks, i found one box but it took hours that could have been spent leveling. hg exp sucks.
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>>180197440
>or even BiS armors.
I mean, 2nd best. Solmiki is often better ofc.
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>>180197117
10/10 the next Picazo or whatever that italian guy wus named
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>>180197440
Shold I use the pract on blye 315 weapons?
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>>180198190
Pract if Vienarazi Mace.
315 Blue with 2+ sockets if not.
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>>180198190
You dont use them on gear, its to craft Purple or Orange 315s
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>>180198107
I think the Italian guy you're thinking of was Mussolini
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>>180198372
Yeah senpai, the one who did the monalisa
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how's this build for minigames
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21333444e.113551.5a85.5a6575.3585
full con? I can possibly go full whale with HoG + emengard shield but I'd like to test it beforehand to see how it works
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>>180200153
Good Build.
>>
I'm pretty new to the game and i want to be in a guild. i've been in the game 2 weeks


I have an elememe c1 lvl 113. Doing W3-Ele3-W2. Should i ask Futureproof or Cute if i can join or should i git gud first?
I'm not very good with my english tho
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>>180200193
can you help me with the remaining points? not sure what I want from cryo and kino other than the obvious stuff
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>>180200279
>all this spacing
>I'm not very good with my english tho
The guild you are lookin for is CoffeeHouse on Fedimian
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>>180200279
cute has grown a lot recently with new players, they're full but they can possibly make a slot
futureproof is currently taking ex-CnL veteran refugees so it's growing right now
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>>180200279
>>180200420
also, maybe it would be better if you played some more before trying to join a guild, it seems pretty pointless to join a guild if it's not clear whether you'd stick around in the game for long or not
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>>180200420
I'll ask both then, thanks.
>>
Do cute boys exist?
>>
What rotation do you guys do for dailies?

Currently I've ignored Saalus Uphill so I'm going about like this:

| Dungeon x3 on my guys, focusing more on the newer character, not 330 on main yet so I still run 290 for now.
| Saalusx2 on all of them that can as soon as someone in my guild throws up a Saalus party
| Missionsx3(Siau) if I still have nothing else to do (On my 240+ I imagine this is starting to get pointless but I did get a Glass Mole recently), should I be doing this as AutoMatch still? Not sure how easy it is to solo and haven't bothered, I'm not very geared on any of my guys

I'm not sure if anyo f my characters are ready for ET but I imagine not. I've got a PyrolinkerEnchanter 313 with Event weapon and SR Lvl311 with Manamana+12.
I also need to get Sissel recipe but I'm guessing I should wait until after I've 317'd to go back and bother with that, I've already got 6 Battle Bracelets.

I'm not making good enough money I guess because I'm only at 3.4mil but I do have a few things for sale that could get me another 20-30mil, just have to wait.
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>>180200754
disgusting
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>>180200754
Yes
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>>180200279
>I'm not very good with my english tho
Why are you playing on the north american server dummy
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>>180200847
Why are you doing Siaulai when you can do Crystal Mines? You can get 200k portium drops from the trash mobs on the flags secton (abandon once both flags stop spawning trash).
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>>180201331
I'm mexican
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>>180201345
>Not killing werewolf for card

Missing out on silver my friend
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>>180200847
I don't do dailies, what kind of faggot enjoys doing boring repetitive chores?
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>>180201596
too lazy, but I may do it in future
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>>180201467
Construya la muro
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>>180201331
>>180201467
Me too. Silute is laggy and full of br shit.
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>>180201467
Buildar el muro
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>>180201467
Build the firewall.
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How can I make dig work with combust?
Every time I use dig the materials appear on top of me and it collects them before I can destroy it
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>>180201170
kill ALL boys
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>>180201743
It's where you belong
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>>180202154
You buy the attribute
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>>180202154
Dig is shit. So is combustion.
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>>180202946
Dig doesn't have an attribute?
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>>180202681
Yeah but there aren't mexicans and is laggy.
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>>180202447
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>>180202154
gain weight
or be really fast

https://my.mixtape.moe/zszvex.webm
dude
leathal weed
lmao
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>>180203057
Combustion's.
>>
so, I just realized, if I have 1 con on doppel due to sarkmis penalty (I'm full str), and con can't go negative (tested it), then I might as well use the hethran level 2 amulet, which has -16 con that doesn't affect me but has +16 str and dex, which are good for me and higher than max peta, and at +0 it has more mdef than max peta too, and spr and int doesn't matter much.
I did it, tosg, I found a good use for those dumb hethran accessories other than gearing cheap alts and pardoners with that +16 SPR amulet.
Has anyone bothered doing them? not sure how time consuming will it be, I have a really high quantity of hethran badges but I hope it isn't a big grind to get a level 2 accesory
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>>180203151
That's stupid and doesn't answer the question
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>>180203592
If you're retarded, I'll spell it out for you: the only way to reliably use combustion is the attribute.
>>
is monk viable now?
i remember Ktos monk was a good boss shredder but are there any global TOS untouchable?
>>
Linker3 Alchemist3 here. I as told Alchemistic Missile was the go to skilll to use against linked enemies but while that is true for normal overworld mobs, it is still very weak against dungeon mobs, Combustion 15 is much better and one shots pretty much every 290 dungeon mob, provided they don't move and the skill doesn't bug out. I use purple 170 weapons.
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>>180201467
Whisper L**aco
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>>180203469

That's actually interesting and I've never thought of it before. If you're going to that effort though why not just get a lolo/solmiki medal?
>>
move
>>180204214
>>180204214
>>180204214
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>>180204031
it's more expensive, it's a cheap and effective solution, and AoE ratio isn't great when you have a falc
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>>180203921
yes, it's pretty good atm
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