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Previous thread: >>179551514

Clans:
NA:
PLSGO (pracitcally dead)
AWOO (extremely /a/utistic)

EU:
NOPAN (basically halal)

PS4:
PLEBS

FAQ:
>Where do I look up tanks?
http://tanks.gg/wot/
>How do I find people to platoon with?
Don't be superpurple and ask in the /vg/ channel
>What's the most aesthetic tank?
T25/2
>What's the least aesthetic tank?
Hellcat
>Which nation has the best tanks?
China (Read: USSR)
>Which nation should I avoid?
USSR

Archived threads:
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/subject/wotg/
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ded general for a ded gaem :(
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Second for first thread
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thread already up: >>179856515
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>>179857003
>murican can't tell which thread came first
4chan tells you what time a thread was posted you have no excuse
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OP premiums killed game, WG wont nerf them, so it's dead forever.
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>>179858490
just flank lmao
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>be yellow scrub playing for 2 months stuck at tier 5
>get the rental panther
>suddenly have hit points
>suddenly have an accurate gun
>suddenly derp rushing someone and hoping your teammates don't fuck up isn't the only viable strategy

why do low tiers play literally nothing like the actual game? holy christ the aim time and gun handling alone compared to low tiers makes this an honest to god different video game, this is ass backwards your intro to the game is nothing but picking up bad habits
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>>179859157
low tiers aren't there to teach you the game, they're there as an initiation rites of sorts. If you can withstand the punishment of playing tiers 1-4, you're the kind of player WG wants to be playing their game. tier 5 ain't so bad tho, most t5 tanks are pretty decent, though I will agree that higher tiers are completely different.
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>>179858985
still can't pen defender weak spots :(
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When do the weeba premiums come out on real servers? I want to put all my female crew in a nip tank but I don't want to actually grind a nip line and there's no point to any of their premiums except as trainers
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>>179860216
just press 2 lmao
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>>179861242
dont have premium account
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>>179861339
using premium rounds doesn't mean spaming them, carry a moderate ammount to switch to for hard targets
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>>179861339
just go back to garage lmao
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I like to charge headfirst into the enemy and then once I die spend the rest of the round bitching about my teammates to see how many I can get to argue with me instead of focusing on the fight
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>>179871104
i like to type "fuck niggers" or other edgy statements at the start of a match
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>>179871173
>>179871104
I teamkill everyone I see with a don't tread on me emblem
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>>179871320
i hope you also teamkill arty. i would if i didn't statpad in low alpha tanks exclusively.
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>>179855726

NO WAY NERD GAME IS FINE NOT DYING AT ALL DESPITE 3 OF 4 SERVERS SLOWLY BLEEDING PLAYERS LALALALALALA TINFOIL HAT AMIRIGHT
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>>179871368
I teamkill any leFH I see
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>>179871612
world of warcraft has been hemorrhaging players for a decade and its still going strong

infinite growth doesn't exist, nothing lasts forever, dying isn't an excuse not to live
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>>179871757

World of Warcraft actively attempts to stop the losses, and offers players on dead servers some options. They also have dozens of servers and many many more millions of players.

Please quit pretending everything is fine just like everyone else that has buried their heads in the sand
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>>179871991
how is everything not fine if I can get constant games in the middle of the night on the least populated server?

have you ever actually played a dead game?
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>>179873216
>>179871991
until you're idling in an irc room for a week begging strangers for games, you're not playing a dead game
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>>179871991
>>179873216
>>179873669
>tfw nuclear dawn is dead
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I only realised now that they nerfed my WZ-131's T-bone cannon. Fuck's sake I'm slow.
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>get to tier x
>still need to grind a top gun
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>>179855726
>tfw slept in didn't save the thread in the morning
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>>179875880
I'd popped some reserves and was grinding too hard to notice
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>>179862064
Not him, but that doesn't sound the way game should be
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Are there any mods that add more garage sorting options? is such a thing possible? I just want a fucking storage tag for the tanks I don't want to sell but don't want to see clogging up my shit
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>tfw fanmail
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>>179877172
its in the vanilla client
just set the tank to reserve and it will only show up at the very end of the carousel
if you dont want to see tanks set on reserve at all there is an option to hide them aswell
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>>179877968
how?
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>>179878154
maybe its an xvm feature, cant really remember
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Whats the point of playing after reaching rank 5?
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>>179878824
There are some fun Tier 7 tanks.
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Should I?
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>>179879274
Be a good goy and do it faggot
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>new mm at work

well that was fun
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>>179879274
I have a 30% off coupon, I like medium tanks but Nameless just seems so good stat-wise while Edelweiss looks mediocre.

I'll play against them for a while, if Nameless really is as OP as it seems, I'll get it.
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>>179879274
https://asia.wargaming.net/shop/wot/vehicles/3827/
>The commander is voiced by "Carisa Contzen", No.63.
Wait, they get special voices?
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>>179884014
Nameless is strong if you can hide lower front plate.
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FCM 50t vs. T-54 First Prototype vs. Spershing vs. AMX M4-49

Which is best for brainlessly making money?
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>>179886409
AMX
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>>179885652
It has shit gun depression.

>>179884209
Confirmed, Edelweiss gets special male voice, Nameless gets special female voice.
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>>179886769
>Edelweiss gets special male voice, Nameless gets special female voice.
Can a kind anon with SEA client upload them somewhere?
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>>179886887
Wait a few days, it'll pop up on wotreplays.

I confirmed from asking several owners.
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I really like playing B-C 12t, even more than the current version of the 1390.
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>El Halluf
>half of our heavies camp at the base
>mrw
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Euro hours
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this is a stock CGC
say something gentle about it
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>>179890469
T
H
I
C
C
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>>179888654
I swear El Halluf activates the stupidity in people
>cosy up in a nice scouting spot in El Halluf
>noone shoots what I spot
Fuck you, fuck you and fuck you. I risk my life just so you drooling retards could deal the damage instead of me
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>In another mmo I play nobody wants to group with me. Expansion release would be horribly depressing and sad.

In tanks my clan always invites me to platoons and strongholds and games. We chat too. if people are busy I can play solo too

Thank you tanks for bringing me happiness.
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>>179855232
FCM 50 t is 15% discount now.

Is it good to buy for train and credits?
Will I regret it?
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>>179891778
you rather wait for 50% discount
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>>179891778
its a very solid tank
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>>179891778
Only if you are a sniper coward
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>>179891778
No.
Yes.
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>>179891778
NO

It will be added to the normal tech tree soon.

You are getting fucked over
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>>179880485
fucking faggot, I hate LTs so much.
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I don't play VC but the Nameless commander voice sure is kawaii desu

http://wotreplays.com/site/3652285#steppes-wolvenworks-nameless
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>>179895874
CTD when trying to open with EU client
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>people still play this
why?
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>>179897451
bc its fun. i play console for the past two years tho, maybe its different on pc now.
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>>179895874
Holy shit it's very fast , like a medium tank.
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>>179897108
I think you need ASIA client
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>>179897108
Probably because of licensing issues they won't be releasing the tanks outside of Asia.

It's only been a day and I see at least 1 Edelweiss or Nameless in every T8 battle, if this sells real good they might add more fictional tanks.
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>>179877238
Did you really all go to the same place in scouts? Are you yellow lol?
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>>179898365
>>179898692
someone on asia pls upload the valkyria voice files
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>>179899067
How?
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>>179899124
in world_of_tanks/res/packages/ there's a file called audioww.pkg that can be opened with 7zip. the "voiceover.bnk" that contains the valkyria voices should be in the japan folder, or maybe in its own valkyria folder or something similar
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>>179899364
What's a good website to upload these?
I've never shared anything before.
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>>179899364
Actually, now I want to use the valkyria voices for my game, is there a tutorial to replace the default voices?
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>>179879274
I want it but...
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>>179879274
>NA will never gets this because of 'muh realism' retards
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>>179900342
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ded clan
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>>179899594
google drive if you have an account, or pretty much anything that pops in a google search
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>>179900567
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>>179900492
i don't want it and not because of "muh realism" but because I don't care for more retarded premiums in the game
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>>179900982
>I don't care for more retarded premiums in the game
It's too late at this point anyway.
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>>179899892
not sure if it still works like that after the latest patches

-turn off national voices in game
-go to res_mods/currentversion/audioww/
-put the voiceover.bnk of your choice in there
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>>179901094
might as well not kick a man while he's down
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>tfw finally got my overall k/d ratio above 1
no bully im yellow
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>>179901417
It's not a man though, it's a slav.
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>The amount of butthurt about the Nameless and Edelweiss in SEA's general chat
This shit is hilarious.

That said, the Nameless is fun.

>Carisa as the TC voice
>Carisa, the jew merchant of VC3
>One of her start-of-match lines is "Time is money, let's move quickly!"
Fucking poetry.
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Look like there are more SEA players here than I thought.

Who SEA here?
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>>179902429
Me. I rarely come to /wotg/ though
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>added XVM option: Display Team WN8 on the battle interface

new win chance it is
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>>179902836
I don't have anywhere to go.
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>first tier 8 match have Edelwiess
>second match have Nameless

Look like they're selling well. GuP tanks might be next!
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>>179900640
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bw2-UxGvZY8CR19VYnlRNTAwS28

Valkyria voice files.
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>>179904127
GuP tanks wouldn't be much different from their original counterparts anyway.

Like the Arpeggio ships they can just reskin existing tanks and copy the stats over.
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>>179904667
it's a great excuse to sell regular tech tree tanks as premiums with zero skill brothers in arms

AKA judaism
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>>179904127
What GuP tanks would you like to see?
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>>179900745
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>>179904753
honestly they should just sell premium tokens at various prices depending on each tier/vehicle type that you can apply to regular tech tree vehicles once you've researched everything on them which would give the vehicle premium advantages
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>>179905412
>introducing GuPgrade packs
>apply unique GuP camo and emblems to your tank, give it premium credit and training capacities and a 100% trained zero skill brothers in arms female crew

I can't decide whether I hate or love this
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>>179904775
all of them
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>>179905031
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>watching superior niponjin streamers
>3 nameless per team every match
I can't wait for this to hit real servers and watch the butthurt unfurl, its the perfect storm.

>premium you need to spam gold to pen
>heavy that moves like a medium
>fictional tanks
>weebs
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>>179906925
It's already exploding in the Asia server.
A chat mod just banned a player because he kept complaining "don't put anime tanks in my real tank game" and the forums have people complaining "plz stop with anime tanks"

Also WG didn't mention the crew cannot be moved out of the tanks.
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>>179906925
Look like they're selling well. I see at least one in every tier 8 match.
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>>179906925
Don't forget that absurd front armor.
>220mm curved slope
>240mm on the curved turret
>Its a fucking t8
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>>179906925
>>179907349
Lower front plate is shit though and the tank is taller than the Tiger II.
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>>179907349
B-but muh weakness!
>Lower front plate
>-8 gun depression only if angled 45 degrees or more otherwise -5 or -2 if pointing behind
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Why don't tanks.gg have the Edelweiss and Nameless 3D model?
It's already released in the Asia server.
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>>179907542
So far I see lots of retards shooting my UFP with gold, and I angled my Nameless.
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>>179904376
thanks :3
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>>179907745
Denial.
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>>179907752
Yeah, they don't aim, they just load gold and hopes it pen.
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Somebody please gift me the Nameless.
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So this... Is the power of a unicum...
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>>179908065
Someone gift me any tier 8 premium, I'll even accept the SPershing.
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>>179908854
you should probably kys if you reroll and don't have 1k avg exp desu
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>>179908065
what's your ign
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>>179910028
neokai
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>>179910065
He asked me you cheeky bastard!
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>>179910308
Who are you?
I'm the one he asked.
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Someone gift me a revalorise I'll pretend to be a cute girl for you
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>>179910065
will you call yamato a nigger on stream if I do
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>>179877238
>sparklefunhorse
did you find bookhorse's original account?
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>>179910065
sent ; )
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>>179909912
He has more than you'll ever do
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>>179913852
:^)
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>>179914187
>lying on the internet
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Panther II or Indien Panzer?
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>>179914187
pathetic
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>>179914451
>not having faith in /wotg/
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>>179914950
E50M
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This is your IS-7 for tonight.

Seriously, high tier need have WR limited.
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>>179915914
I'm serious here, I need a tier 8 med.
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>>179915127
I'll have faith if I get one too.
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>>179855232
I come from mwo and am wondering has war thunder killed this game yet? kinda considering trying this or war thunder.
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>>179916627
Get one of what friendo?
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>>179916719
the only thing war thunder killed is itself
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>>179915914
Is E-50M a good pub tank?
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>>179917071
elaborate whats wrong with it?
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>for some reason im logged out of wot website
>press log in
>sends me to "pick warfagging game" screen
>click wot
>sends me to wot main page, not logged in or no login screen
>click log in again
>my username pops in automatically but password doesnt fill
>remember me tickbox marked by default even thought it logs out out randomly


quality vodka coding
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>>179917367
they made everything worse with each patch and it still doesn't have any competitive side
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>>179916840
A Nameless.
I'm a poorfag, so I'll never taste a tier 8 premium.
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>>179916448
i would say indien pz is a better t8 better the tier 10 isn't
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>>179891778

The gun is abysmal. Powercrept into the shadow realm.
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>>179917959
that's a pretty disengenious opinion there
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>>179919878
no it's not
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>>179920235
Yes it is, not only you failed to elaborate what you mean, but also start throwing false flags around.

The most hilarious thing is that "they made everything worse with each patch" fits more towards WoT nowadays.
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>>179920463
go try it faggot
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>>179920934
I play both, faggot.
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Matilda or Hetzer for stress relief?
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>>179915127
>gift a tank
>player accepts
>cancel payment
>recipient's account gets blocked until payment is made
Trust strangers.
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>>179921057
Hetzer because the derp is fun
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>>179919838
>>179892658
For real?
FCM isn't worth it at all? damn
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>>179921057
matilda:^)
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ez ace. even got to push a friendly heavy into enemy fire cause he got made i missed and tracked him
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>WZ-132A
>3.2k damage
>1.2k spot
>3 kills
>850 exp
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>>179924924
Have you won the match :^)
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I got a 30% off coupon, do they give this out over and over or is it a one time thing?
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>>179891778
>>179919838

if FCM50t is useless now, which one of the regular tier8 premiums that you can get for gold is the better investment for training crews and farm silver ??
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>>179926151
I fucking hate this.
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>>179926151
yes
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>>179927008
Usotski
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tiger 131
tiger 217
which one looks best?
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The WZ-132 is broken without scout MM.
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>>179904376
https://a.pomf.cat/pikhmq.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/jsixqi.webm

hella kawaii, thanks asianbro
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>>179926516
>baguette
M4 Reverse
>sushi
STAnime-2
>nazi
"I SWEAR IM AN AMERICAN TANK GUYS" Panther
Slöwe
>burger
if you don't have the T25 then either you missed the event or you're a total shitter
Spergling is decent I guess
>swedistan
error 404
>Czech
no.
>tea & crumpets
why are you doing this to yourself
>MOTHERLAND
SU-122-44 because 3k DPM at tier 7 is B A L A N S
T-54 mod 1 is getting buffed next patch or something apparently, keep an eye on it
>ching chong ding dong
typu sixty fooru (I think is available for gold)
T-34-3 is decent, fuck the haters
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>>179923904
212mm penetration on a tier 8 is laughable at this point. Gun handling and DPM is trash as well. The mobility is kinda okay but worthless when maps mostly consist of corridors. Probably one of the weakest tier 8 heavies in the game at this point besides gems like the Caernarvon.

>>179926516
Lowe is probably the most powerful tier 8 you can buy for gold atm. If you're into medium tanks the M4 Ravioli and weeb premium are okay too.
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>>179928131
Prem 8 tanks are only available with 15% discount or they ever go lower ?
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>>179932232
On some servers WG hands out coupons for tier 8 premiums on a seemingly random basis. So it's theoretically to get them for less.
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>>179932184
Ravioli isn't for sale tho
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>>179932467
It's still cheaper and better than an FCM 50t.
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>>179923904
fcm is only good if you are fighting t6 and 7's. The pen just isn't there at t8+ and it has nothing else besides its speed.
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>>179933816
>>179932184
This.

I don't get how vbaddict.net still has it as a top ten Money making machine after the nerfs.
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>>179932467
it's in the tech tree for gold, and is one of the cheaper tier 8 premiums

on NA at least
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>225mm
Look like they don't care about "historical accuracy" anymore. Tiger II armor buff when?
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>>179933816
oh and its highly situational, I would sum it up as, for every upside, there is an easily exploitable downside.


For example:

It CAN act as a heavy tank if the time calls for it (top tier, 3 HTs including you vs 2 HTs). You have 80mm of side armor, so you can sidescrape, but anyone with half a brain will just shoot the turret, which has no armor.

It's fast, but its so huge that say you get stuck behind a single piece of cover, you'll still get shot. Had you been in any other medium you would have been fine.

Your gun has decent DPM and accuracy, but low alpha and pen, limiting flexibility.

The tank is essentially, unforgiving and barely works at t9. Make one mistake or get fucked by MM and all the flaws will fuck you over.
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>>179935225
nobody but fat wehraboo freaks cares about muh historical accuracy
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>>179935225
never, historical accuracy only applies to non-russian tanks.
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>>179935684
What's especially fun about the 50t these days is that since WG started buffing armor on most tanks with the HD buff you now actually need to start aiming for weak spots on a lot of tanks.Or if it's a balance wagon like the Defender or 100.01 you can go load gold or get fucked. In addition to that, the gun also has bad soft stats because why not.
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>Chinese female voice has been completely rerecorded re-recorded. New voice and dialect required.
lmao, I'd heard chinks complaining about how she sounds more like she's riding a fat cock than a tank
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>>179873216

I didn't say it was dead retard
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how do you play the arl 44? that armor is so shitty
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>>179940730
105 + APCR
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>200 points left to go in the console op for the KV-220
I actually think op has a significant positive effect on my per match performance because it forced me to try-hard and only play heavy damage dealers.
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Why is the Charioteer so comfy when you get the top gun? It is the archetypal glass canon, but is actually a lot of fun once you get used to having no gun depression by adopting a somewhat unique style of play.
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>>179943094
The Bogatyr isn't anything to get excited about
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>>179946371
I know, but I'm not gonna pass up a free tank.
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How many T-44 do we need?
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>>179949354
What's the R variant?
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>>179949561
rental
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>>179949561
http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:R127_T44_100_P
spaced armour and a long barreled 100mm
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>>179949354
Yknow for a Russian company Wargaming doesn't seem to understand the Russian tank naming conventions at all. The T-44-85M should just be the T-44M, as it was never called the T-44-85 to begin with. The T-44-100M makes no fucking sense, as M is a modernisation variant and you don't make a modernisation of a fucking prototype tank.
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>>179949796
>>179949818
That's weird, I thought rentals were always the same as their regular in-game counterparts. Like, is the point of rentals not to encourage you to buy the real thing?
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>>179950296
It is indentical to the T-44-100.
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>>179950206
the game uses western naming conventions for the english client, I wouldn't be surprised if its WGNAs doing or if they hired a localization company
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>>179949354
That T-44-85M actually seems pretty fucking based, like some kind of Russian Bromwell. Is it a reward tank or something?
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>>179909902
>bagging on the Spershing
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>>179951113
Its shown up in supertests but hasn't been for sale or given away yet
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>>179951209
So it could be released anywhere from a month away to never. Gotcha
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>>179951140
Rental or giveaway?
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>group of vets players do nothing but spam the map and hide on
makes me wish the military just put them in ovens instead of putting them back in society
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>>179871104

If you wouldnt spend 13 minutes waiting to start playing, your team wouldnt be dead by the time you do. When you sit back for 13 minutes, you made it 15 v 14, and the ones who charged in were the only ones on your team actually playing.

They should just make them 5 minute rounds if everyone wants to be a pussy the whole time. The maps are designed for tanks to start immediately and compete for positions of power. If you fail to move into those positions at the start, you already lose.
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>>179952454
>It's not a 30 tier 10 tanks with complete air superiority vs 2 tier 4s like it was in real life
How do you expect vets to cope with that?
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Sturer Emil sold.... just grinding money to get the waffentrager now and then I'll be set.

But why did they not include the pak 43 waffentrager the Germans actually built in 1945? They made a hundred of them...one survives in kubinka right next to the sturer Emil. Why put the waffentrager that never was even built in the game before the one that actually existed?
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>>179953128
Fascist tanks are not worth of effort tovarish )))))))))))
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>>179953128

Reasons. Slav reasons.
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>>179953128
Why would they put an 88mm armed TD at tier 7 in a line of high alpha, high pen tank destroyer? It wouldn't fit in the slightest, not to mention it would be garbage unless it got some insane DPM.
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>>179952862
suicide, they do it all the time anyways. why not in a video game.
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>>179953926
I don't mean in place of the borsig, I mean just put the damn thing in the game, anywhere.
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>>179953128
Uh anon, only one of those Waffentragers was made. It's the same one sitting in Kubinka. It was a competing design to the same contract as the Krupp Steyr, and WG chose to add the Steyr instead.
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>>179954212
There's no reason to add it with the Steyr ingame. They would be nigh identical.
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>>179954215
My b somewhere I read about a hundred were made but I'm currently digging. They made more than one "waffentrager" tho assuredly.
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>>179954529
There were two vehicles made for the testing stages, and an order for 10 vehicles was put in late November 1944. Ironically, the vehicle it was competing with was the ACTUAL Borsig, the one armed with the same 8,8cm rather than the preposterous 12,8cm. There aren't any records indicating what happened after this point as to how many ended up being produced due to the late stage of the war, only the presumption that all but one of them were destroyed in the Battle of Berlin. It's unlikely that all ten vehicles were made due to the orders close proximity with the end of the war, and honestly I'd find it more likely that the only ones that ended up fighting were the two prototype vehicles.

Source: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leichter_Einheitswaffentr%C3%A4ger
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>>179955515
Why are Germans so awful at war? The allies standardized on M4s, T-34s and simple mass producable SPGs and TDs as early in the war as they could, meanwhile the nazis were shitting out a dozen high tech experimental prototypes every month until they were using the world's most advanced machines to defend the ruined husk of their country
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>>179956003
>says the Germans were bad at war
>meanwhile the modern American military is riding off of coattails of nazi tech. Our helmets, planes, light machine guns, tactics,

Fuck off ya daft cunt
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>>179956427
meanwhile the modern american military has won a war since 1870
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>>179956427
But you lost... And then the winner took your stuff...
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>>179956568
Why, yes.
They have won wars since 1870.
Thanks for the statement.
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>>179956568
t. man who thinks it's 1870
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>>179956427
Having good engineers doesn't mean you're good at war. All that space age Nazi tech means nothing if they don't have the metal to forge then nor the money to pay for them.
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>>179956687
the point is the germans havn't
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>>179956762
Spanish civil war?
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>>179892658
>>179919838
>>179926516
>>179932184
You all keep shitting on the FCM 50t but forget to mention it's the only way to train for based french Heavies that trump all clan wars.

Plus it makes 4000 silver net per minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9CNphzQKaU
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>>179956639
Boi they took on Russia when the western flank wasn't fully secured. Then opened up a third front in Africa on top of that.

Germany, Romania, Hungary, Finland, some arabs, Indians and Africans a few thousand miles away and a handful of Spaniards, Frenchmen, swedes and norwegians can't fight off the whole rest of the world. But they did hold out for a few YEARS when it took only WEEKS to take it in the first place.
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>>179956738
>>179956427
Which was my entire point, the Germans had amazing technology in minute numbers and the Soviets and Americans (and every friend of the Americans) had functionally infinite amounts of just "ok" tech.

why did the Germans think this was a good idea? Especially since they seemed to double down on this when the going got tough, making even more experimental designs instead of refining mass production of their tanks which were already the best in the world.
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>>179957128
But you lost... Playing on the highest difficulty isn't impressive if you still game over.
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>>179957128
Literally the only reason Zhukov didn't roll the Germans back from Stalingrad to Berlin within a year was because Stalin kept wanting to make pitstops so he could install Communist governments in the former German occupied countries.
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>>179957325
And the only reason the Nazis got that far in the first place is because Stalin killed all his best officers and forced them to use an ass backwards strategy because of politics.
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>>179957128
>dude I didn't get my ass beat I picked a fight with the biggest guy around no one would have been able to last as long as I did before he punched my country in half for 45 years
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>>179957168
They tried. And that's the magic of it.

An attempt was made.
And it shook the world.
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>>179957423
Stalin was the best asset Nazi Germany had in the beginning years of the war. He was just as retarded at Hitler when making battle decisions, except Hitler didn't have Zhukov to tell him he was a moron.

The world would've unironically been a much better place if Zhukov had ousted Stalin at the end of WW2 and taken over.
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>>179957648
congratulations, we're all very impressed
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>>179957640
>and then I got back up and was fully healed in like, a few seconds, and I have the big guy giving me money every month!
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>>179957863
>he even let me drink his cum afterwards!
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>>179956003
Eh the Waffentrager series wasn't awfully ambitious, really. I mean the Ardelt Waffentrager even used a Pz. 38 chassis. They were essentially just supposed to be a more mobile way of getting an 88mm gun into position, rather than having to reposition a field gun.
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>>179957648
>And that's the magic of it.
No, not really. They lost. The British were making just as many technological breakthroughs as the Germans, with stuff like radar, codebreaking and jet fighters, except they actually won because they weren't retarded about it.
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>>179958091
"After the war, america took what was left of Germany's gigantic, nearly depleted ballsack and ran tests on the cum for years until putting it in its own ballsack because it was better"
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>>179958270
lets not forget the Americans also invented nuclear weapons around the same time, arguably more impressive than a Panther II
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>>179958368
Yooooo but that panther II is displayed proudly in an American museum. Gotta look at the smaller facts, b
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>>179958364
The only thing Germany had of use to America was their rocketry technology and scientists.
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>>179959010
neither of which was much help to their own war effort

>The German V-weapons (V-1 and V-2) cost the equivalent of around USD $40 billion (2015 dollars), which was 50 percent more than the Manhattan Project that produced the atomic bomb.
>More people died manufacturing the V-2 than were killed by its deployment.
>The V-2 consumed a third of Germany's fuel alcohol production and major portions of other critical technologies: to distill the fuel alcohol for one V-2 launch required 30 tonnes of potatoes at a time when food was becoming scarce.

"… those of us who were seriously engaged in the war were very grateful to Wernher von Braun. We knew that each V-2 cost as much to produce as a high-performance fighter airplane. We knew that German forces on the fighting fronts were in desperate need of airplanes, and that the V-2 rockets were doing us no military damage. From our point of view, the V-2 program was almost as good as if Hitler had adopted a policy of unilateral disarmament."
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>>179958368
And said atomic bombs are never used again outaide of tests, while a tank could still be used.
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>>179959732
>tanks
>useful outside of nuclear tests
>laughingchinamen.jpg
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>>179959732
Are you implying nuclear bombs were never used in combat?
Are you trying to deny western imperialist warcrimes you gaijin sack of crap?
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>>179959518
To be fair to Von Braun, it wasn't actually his fault that the V2s weren't hitting anything. By the time V2s were launching, Britain had overturned every single undercover German spy in the UK, and was feeding Germany misinformation through them. V2 hit the centre of a city block? Germany gets told it missed by a few miles, and hit an empty paddock instead. V2 hit a farm and killed a few sheep? Germany gets told it was right on target. This meant the V2s were never zeroed correctly - like that game where you blindfold a friend and have to guide them through an obstacle course, except instead you just make them walk into walls.
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>>179959946
Less that they weren't hitting anything and more they didn't do much when they did, the impact fuses were shoddy and so they'd bury themselves in a target instead of air bursting, and they just plain were an inefficient way to deliver a payload.

Again, not his fault though, the tech just wasn't ready for real war applications and the high command forced it into use because of the psychological impact of their "vengeance weapon", they were great rockets, terrible bombers.
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thread quality took a nose dive so lets let this one die and try again
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What does it feel like to be unicum?
t. light green recent
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>>179960885
shitty on germany is pretty great thread quality
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>>179961062
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If I get rank 5 every week I will be top 10% and get the 5k bonds right? Or do i have to keep playing for more points?
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>>179962315
prob not, cut off for league 1 is at 11 rank points already on EU
people will most likely put even more effort into ranked battles onces stage 4 starts
you also will need a high chevron wr if you only have few rank points
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>>179962624
i have 67% wr and around 1.7k dmg average, is that good enough?
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>>179961062

>>179908854
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>>179963272
chevron wr is alright, dpg isnt
but dpg doesnt matter too much because it only comes 3rd to calculate your position
if 67% c wr will be good enough depends on how many rank points people were able to get at the end, it should be enough to get in some league if you got to rank 5 every stage but probably not enough for league 1
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>>179924754

>Type 5 camo skill
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What do you think about these openly fictional tanks(not super sekrit documents) being part of the game?

So far the opinion on the forums are largely
"Proof that WG doesn't care about historical accuracy"
"OP premium cashgrab tank"
"Anime tanks are ruining the game"

I want one because everyone who owns it says they're hella fast.
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cyka
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>>179965978
I don't care about historical accuracy in a game where tanks ram into eachother at 60kmph through an arena the size of a football field and TOGs can climb sheer cliffs

They seem fun, nip friend of mine thinks nameless is too strong but edelweiss is a good balance with a cool playstyle
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this is my jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cn7ZW8ts3Y
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I have a 30% off coupon for Asia server, I'm never going to spend a dime on the game, anyone want to use it?
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>>179891778
>>179932184
Any realistic chance WG will give him a boost or two in the near time?
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>>179965978
>Nameless
>OP
I personally don't really think so though.

>Tracks are very exposed, easy to hit the butter side hull behind the tracks if one fucks up the angling, also easy to detrack for arty to rain hell on it
>Fast in a straight line, but turns slow. Weak to circling by a faster tank
>Forward gun dep is shit, making use of its -8 requires you to expose your butter sides
>Gun is average but handles well
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A reminder that anyone in AWOO that isn't complete garbage should apply to NICO, a superior clan.
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>>179972834
>anyone in AWOO
>that isn't complete garbage
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>>179972834
>diabeeters
>AWOO
>even qualifying as people
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>>179970061
> I'm never going to spend a dime on the game
so honorabu
petrol huffing abo fuck
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Is it worth buying just for the look alone?
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No.
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>>179973743
You misunderstand, I'm never going to spend a dime on the game because I'm dirt poor.
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>>179974665
>I'm dirt poor
well that paint thinner ain't cheap
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you know your game is dead and when drunktard eurpoor has to bump it in the mornings
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>>179974160
no, the E75 is better tier for tier
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WHERE THE FUCK IS THE CHIEFTAIN, WG?
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>>179943591
The Conway is even more comfy.
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so how bad is the largo, you loss so much armor with it
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>>179980530
the lago is seal clubbing material, just dont fall for the shitter-bait gun
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>>179855232
>Error: Unable to connect to the chat server. Try again later.
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>>179981570
>saving the thumbnail
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Gift me an Edelweiss.
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>>179984921
sent ;)
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>>179984921
Why does it cost 40 euros?
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>Its a t8 match
>I'm driving my Nameless
>Enemy team doesn't have a nameless
>Its Siegfried Line where everyone clusterfucks into town
>ohboy.jpg
>Bullying all the t6s, the Churchill at least did the right thing and tried to sidescrape, too bad he was fighting a t8
>Casually bouncing a shot from the T28 then permatracking him into death
>Casually driving at the enemy while shooting at them
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>>179985826
It costs 33.42 USD
https://worldoftanks.asia/en/news/game-events/ps-valkyria-chronicles-tanks/
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Can you guys stop making fun of Brazilians? Thank you.
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It's been a day and the dust is starting to settle, there are still people adamant that Nameless and Edelweiss are killing the game because WoT is about historic tanks and realistic designs.

Nameless is considered disappointing, the armor only works against idiots wasting gold ammo on the upper front plate while anyone else abuses it's height and poor gun depression.

The consensus on Edelweiss is that it's fast and fun to play.

As a premium tank, are these two fair additions?
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>>179987451
>historic tanks and realistic designs.
Have they seen the two tanks preceding the Maux lately? Or the entire Japanese Heavy line?
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>>179987629
What's wrong with the nip heavies again
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>>179987757
Tier VI to X are completely fictional.
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>>179987629
They're okay because "they look like ww2 tanks".

People are also complaining why it's not a "special nation" tank like in blitz since the crew cannot be retrained, sent to barracks or dismissed without selling the tanks.
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>>179987883
>they look like ww2 tanks
Hypocrites.

The Edelweiss and Nameless are both heavily based off WW2 designs and wouldn't look out of place beside tanks like the KT and Panther.
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>>179989105
Anon you need glasses.
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>>179989105
>Hypocrites.
No.

It looks shit in this game, just like the VK100P.
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>>179987793
the entire nation of japan is fictional
it is the greatest sham in the world, solely created by americans, just to yell muh pacific front every time they are confronted with the fact that WW2 was entirely won by the USSR
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>>179989105
Some quotes from the forums
>Liking anime or being in an anime clan does not mean you have to put up with cartoon tanks. I watch the odd anime but I play these games to play tanks, even if some of them are paper projects or made up projects by WG, at least they are variants based on historical tanks. These tanks however are just wholly lifted, at least the rudy was a real tank based on the t-34-85, and the fury is an easy 8 variant etc.

>I like anime. I don't particularly find the concept of Edelweiss and Nameless thrilling. Mainly because they don't particularly look like a World War II tank and seem out of place (at least the fantasy E-50 has the look)
>Either that or I am a hypocrite. Which I am, naturally.

>Liking anime /= liking anime tanks.
>One can enjoy watching them, doesn't mean they want completely fictional tanks in their 1930s-1960s based tank game.

>These tanks may belong to an anime/game but their models/color scheme are not pastel like those of Arpeggio Ships on WoWS.
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I think the Edelweiss looks good and were it not for the colour scheme, it might pass for a realistic tank. But the Nameless is a bit ridiculous looking.
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>>179989328
>People still playing WoT are retarded
I think everybody else got the idea to abandon ship when WG released the Defender.
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>>179989402
Its mostly the colors.

The Nameless would look better if its proportions are more similar to the Edelweiss' proportions
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>WG adds a tank for Poland
>It's stolen
Sasuga Bolek
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>>179989593
is the panther the new t-54 clone?
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>>179989487
>The Nameless would look better if its proportions are more similar to the Edelweiss' proportions
The Edelweiss reminds me of an E50 whereas the Nameless reminds me of an overgrown Tiger II.

>>179989593
Which is its machine gun missing? Poles steal that too?
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>>179989764
Nameless has proportions like the Luchs, now that I think about it.
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>>179989764
*Why?
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>>179989718
>Can be sold as British hero tank
>Can be sold as a French premium
>Can be sold as a Japanese premium
It certainly does have the potential to be.
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>>179989764

Comrade, gun port means weakness, da? Can't have weakspot on new premiums tovarish or idiots won't buy.
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>>179959893
>reading comprehension
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>>179989829
Luchs BIG!

>>179989926
But the port is still there.
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>>179989910
>Can be sold as a Japanese premium
How?
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Reminder no septs are to be unchecked
>>179999999
>>180000000
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>>179990036
>How?
They bought a Panther alongside that Tiger we already have in the game. At least according to wikipedia.
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>>179990085
I only ever heard about the Tiger, but I could be wrong. I was under the impression that the Panther wasn't ready when the Tiger was purchased.
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>>179990293
>Germany sold Japan a single Panther along with a Tiger in September 1943; by the time it was ready in 1944, it was impossible to ship due to Allied naval interdiction.[142]
Dunno if that's accurate or not but going by my experience with this game WG doesn't really care about mid tiers anyway if they can avoid it. We already have the STA for the whales and the chink for poorfags so the lazy slav devs probably can't be bothered.
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what skills on my turret british TDs?
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>be Euro
>play in the morning
>no way we win
>ragequit
>play in the evening
>playing is easy, winning without much effort
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Post your ign and server.
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>>179993882
xXNiggerMasterExcelXx
SEA
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Apparently if you do this you get a locust and I think you get gold if you already have it.

http://wotacademy.com/#/home
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What should I change my name to?
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>>179996273
Good_Boy_Stalin
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>>179989328
>only wants ww2 looking tanks
well that train definitely left when they introduced swedish future tech TDs, if not sooner when they introduced french autoloaders
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Is the M48 Patton any good? Currently sitting on a Pershing and unsure whether to progress or not.
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I just bought Pantherr/m10. Is it fun?
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How do I check the height of the Nameless?
People keep saying that the nameless is so tall that the -5 frontal gun depression feels like it's -2.
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>>179998183
it's okay, gets good credits and if you don't put yourself in front of tanks you can't pen the gun is pretty good, it's not sluggish but it's not incredibly quick either
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>>179998193
>those graphics
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>>179855232
I fell for the thread hype and bought FCM 50t with gold.

Say something nice about her.
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>>179998381
I'm on a laptop, this is the best I can do.
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>>179999418
Is this tall for a tank?
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>>179998727
i'm sure your mother tried her best to raise you despite your glaring deficiencies
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>>179999554
Its about as tall as the KT if the in-garage model is anything to go by
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I suppose I should complete these mission at some point. What's the least cancerous SPG to do them in?
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>>179998016
It's not bad, but if you have other Tier X mediums you aren't missing much.
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>>179999554
Still trying to get height comparison shots
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>>180002709
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>>179989328
Lmao what a tard. If you want a realistic tank game play fucking War Thunder. Realism went out the fucking door when WG put the Waffle traktor in the game.
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>>180002868
The bad gun depression really shows.
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>>179999554
It's taller than the Tiger II
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>>180003076

>mfw that's the gun depression

you're fucking serious, aren't you.
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I can't stand this powercreep anymore!

Buff the Tiger II or else!
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>>180003490
How do you preview shop premiums?
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>>180003805
compare vehicles
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>>180003490
Only because of the cupola
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>>180004134
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>>180004134
The turret is placed higher than Tiger IIs.
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>Except the TC and the driver, the crew of the Nameless are wearing standard Gallian uniforms
WG you fucked up there.

They should be all wearing the black Nameless uniform.
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>>179989593
>>It's stolen
Spoils of war.

Also if Pudel was stolen, so was the half of Kubinka museum
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>try Crossout cause it looks fun
>absolutely banana tier teams
>no sense of tactics
>MM puts you in games with 1000 power score difference between players
>MM creates teams with uneven numbers of bots and actual players
>MM creates teams with uneven numbers in general
>you lose, you get jackshit
>grind your balls off to get equipment cause
>RNG loot drops lol
>RNG loot crates for you goy
>pay money to skip grind goy
>sure you can play the raids against bots only
>but you need fuel for that
>you get a small daily dose of fuel and then you can get earn more through pvp :^)
>see some nigger driving around in a low tier 1700 something power score car
>he has a deployable turret and a flying drone
>rips everything to pieces with
>while sitting behind cover and jerking off
I don't even want to know how fucked up Warthunder is after playing this shitshow.
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>>180006315
Its actually much better but the grind is still ass. Tanks is eh though
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>cant invite my friend to platoon because chat server is kill all the time
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I'm trying to extract the Nameless commander audio file so I can just listen to every one of it but when I extracted the .bnk file all I got was a bunch of .stream files and a .txt that has:

Section#: 0

Sound File Id: 001ab416
File Offset: 00000000
File length: 00009b4a

and so on in it

How do I listen to the audio files?
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>>180010716
Nevermind, found a guide.
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So what're the current meta tier 8 lights? Is the LTB a keeper?
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>>180015170
M41 GF and WZ-132
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With all the arty buffs, is the M53/55 still considered better than the T92?
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All I can say is that the 9.18/19 mm is just fucking awesome and the game is playable again

Wargaming has just 2 things to fix in wot:
-remove shit players :^)
-make accuracy better
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Is this tank any good?
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>>180017413
yes

t. weeb
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>people defending these animu tanks in the game
Does it look like it fits in this game?
It's like having a game where all the other characters are realistic looking people and all of a sudden they add a character with a kawaii uguu~ bug-eyed anime character that looks like it came straight out of an older Key game.
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>>180017865
>Does it look like it fits in this game?
yes
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How do you check a tank's camo rating?
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>>180018071
it's literally in the stats in the garage are you fucking blind
this isn't 3 years ago
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>>180017865
It sure looks like something the players of this game deserve.
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Is Emil I really that good?
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>>180017865
>animu tanks
Other game's tanks

>Does it look like it fits in this game?
No less fitting than other fantasy tanks already in the game
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>>180020197
>other fantasy tanks already in the game
I love this meme
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>>180017865
>Does it look like it fits in this game?
What if I told you anime does realistic tank combat better than JewGayming?
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Recommend some tier 8 meds for me. I already have a heavy and want a medium tank.
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>>180022803
Pershing
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>>180022803
>in b4 Edelweiss

Can't, I'm a poorfag.
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>>180022803
>Tech tree
Anything that isn't slow as shit or has below 200 standard pen
>Premium
STA-2 is great, so is the M4 rev
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>>180022983
Pershing look average in every way.
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>>180022803
STA-2, M4 Ravioli, Lorraine 40t

is the amx elc bis really this terrible now?
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>>180022803
The Pershing is pretty rell rounded but I'd have to say tech tree go with the T-44 or Obj. 416. Premium get the Super Pershing.
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>>180022983
>>180025035
Why would you want to play an inferior version of the Patriot?
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>>180024960
it's the slowest tier v light now
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>>180024084
it has good gold ammo
>>180025305
it's free
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>>180025305
The Patriot is a heavy tank
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STA-2 or Revalorise? I need either a French or Japanese tank to be a waifumobile
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>>180025673
Ravioli, can train the crew for a decent tier 10.
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>>179998727
It's not a bad tank by any stretch. It's out-classed by newer Premiums, yes, but they are blatantly overpowered cash grabs. And you'll never have to deal with a perfectly balanced Maus.
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>>180025528
why do i always try to get new tanks when some of the tanks in that line got nerfed to death

fucking kill me
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>shillbaby flat out calls anime tanks op and pay to win


lel
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>>180026167
Like anybody still watching that guy has a working brain.
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>>180026304
guilty pleasure my dude
i dont even play wot anymore
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I guess I'll go with Pershing since I have GuP skin.
I wouldn't regret buying it, right?
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>>180026167
Nice juxtaposition
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>>180027146
Just peek over hills and shoot. Flank when you should
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>>180017865
So this is like the last straw for you, or something. Cool.

I too was kinda butthurt when it was first leaked, I guess, but even this kind of shameless weaboo pandering honestly pales in comparison to all the OP shit with make-believe armor WG has been releasing lately. I don't really care anymore, they can just keep pumping out the stronk slav semen and I'm sure the player base will happily chug it down. Not literally tho. That would be gay.
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>>180026167
lmao at all the normies crying that the VC tanks are in the game. This shit is literally no different than most "sekrit document" tanks but they're blinding hatred of anything anime or fun being added to the game doesn't let them see it.

I loved VC and remember asking for these tanks a while back so this is a dream come true for me. Fuck the haters.
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>>180017865
Have you played WoT before? This game has about as much in common with actual warfare as Valkryia Chronicles so I don't see the difference.

At least these tanks existed in some form of actual media unlike most German tanks in the game.
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Can you get Welkin's English voice on the Edelweiss? I didn't play the game in Japanese.
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>>180029709
There's no such thing as a tank either being historically accurate or pure fiction. It's to what extent is the tank historically accurate. The VC tanks added by WG have zero historical basis. Whether is be a prototype, unfinished project, blueprint, concept, or purposal, the tank is not fictional. It will only be less historically accurate.
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>>180032187
>The VC tanks added by WG have zero historical basis.


Neither do most of the Czech tanks, half of the German tier Xs, most Jap tanks, and only god knows how many russian tanks were made up. The only difference is that the VC tanks have a license.
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Can I use Charioteer in place of a medium tank?
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>>179904775
The most historically iconic (Sherman, Tiger, T-34-85, PzIV) or, alternatively, the ones used by the Commanders of each team (see the aforementioned list)
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>>180032606
the main difference here is that those tanks do have some (albiet weak) historical basis. Liberty may have been taken on their stats in game (as it has been taken on some of the tanks that have existed as well), but they existed in some shape or form, whether it be in blueprints or a proposal from engineers or an unfinished project. The VC tanks have absolutely zero historical basis: they may be inspired by tanks that actually existed, but they themselves will never exist and never would have existed beyond VC. They were designed by story writers and artists rather than engineers.
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>>180034039
You absolutely can, my friend. What the heck. Shoot, you can do all sorts of wonderful things with your Charioteer and you'll do it so much better than we ever could.
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>>180034626
>They were designed by story writers and artists rather than engineers.

So?
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>>180034626
And they were still implemented in the same game which makes no attempt to simulate historical accuracy by the same team of programmers and game designers
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>>180034961
what did he mean by this
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I'm in an anime clan and I don't want this VC garbage in the game.
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>>180035172
What do you mean by your post? You're saying a completely made up tank is okay because you think an engineer might have drawn it at some point. What's the difference between an engineer drawing a tank and a story writer drawing a tank? At the least Valkyria Chronicles tanks existed in their own universe.


If this were War Thunder or some other tank sim I could understand why people would be upset, but WoT is basically Mario Kart when it comes to tank combat.
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>>179989328
What did they think about GuP collab with WoT? And Haifuri with WoWS?
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>>180026167
>he got so annoyed by the female commander voice that he turned it off
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>>180036285
I thought he was overreacting to that part but I could imagine them being grating. I hope they have Gunther's english voice since that would be more recognizable to western fans.
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>>180034039
I wouldn't recommend it. It just doesn't have much to offer as a Medium Tank, it would be like playing a slower CDC with worse gun handling - even worse than an IS, in fact. However, it does have decent Alpha and some amount of side armor. even if it is still thin and prone to the 'ricochet-or-pen' effect, so it could definitely work as a brawler in an emergency.
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>>180035661
Maybe, just maybe, an engineer with experience designing and building tanks might have a more practical tank design that he drew on a napkin than an anime video game designer does.
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>>180035661
>napkin drawing made by a real world engineer with real world experience and practicality vs anime tank drawn for a made up animeland videogame world

hmmm, you're right I really don't see the difference between the two.
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U S A
S
A
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>>180037792
>both are put into a made up slavland video game and both use the same fantasy physics and mechanics with no bearing whatsoever to real world practicality

The japanese heavies wouldn't physically be able to move in real life
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>>180037636
Agree.
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>>180037636
>Maybe, just maybe, an engineer with experience designing and building tanks might have a more practical tank design


If this were true we wouldn't have stupid that like the Maus, E-100, Type 5, T95, or TOG II. Engineers can design shit that is way dumber than these VC tanks.
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>>180038134
>>180038118
>japs
>experience with designing tanks

The anime artist probably had more experience tbqh
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>>180038223
so whats the problem? both are unrealistic fantasies that could only exist in this video game
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>>180038223
Pretty sure it would be easier to implement nameless and edelweiss in reality than a Type 4/5 heavy. It might have something to do with the ridiculous size and weight of the types. Maybe. The anime tanks are literally more realistic than quite a few of the tanks in this game already.
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>>180038548
Different anon, but the only problem I've seen with them is that weight is extremely low for the amount of armor they have and that the gun caliber of the Nameless is clearly larger than 88mm just by looking at the diameter
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>>180038548
>>180038306
I don't know what to say anons - if you really don't see a distinction between real world fantasy tanks and literal anime tanks, then we're going to have to agree to disagree. There's a line I feel Wargaming have crossed here that I really wish they don't extend outside of the Asia server, I'll leave it at that.
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>>180038807
She's got a pretty T H I C C barrel shroud tbf
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>>180039069
for me its more I don't see a distinction between any tank in this game and fantasy, even the ones based on historical machines bear little resemblance to how they operated, and as long as the game stays fun and balanced who cares

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfvAODg8mKE
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>>180039069
>if you really don't see a distinction between real world fantasy tanks and literal anime tanks


It's not that we don't see the distinction, it's that the distinction is hardly relevant in a game like WoT. The number of tanks in the game that never left the drawing board or went beyond mock prototype stage is almost the same as the number of that ever actually entered service. If there ever was a game for an anime tank to be featured alongside real tanks, WoT is that game.

I understand your gripe that it's made up, but that hasn't stopped WG in the past so I don't see why it should now.
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I'd much prefer it if WG had just gotten a partnership with GuP instead and just sold cosmetic or improved versions of tanks we already have ingame if I'm honest.

At least GuP is a decent anime
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>>180040996
>WG had just gotten a partnership with GuP instead

They already did that, but so far they only do voice mods and skins.

https://worldoftanks.asia/en/news/general-news/announce-gupmod-movie/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAPA5iUfbbA
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>Last enemy alive is a S1
>none of us have guns greater than 90mm
>we literally cannot penetrate him
haha this is so fun and balanced
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>>180042003
>we literally cannot aim for a cupola or flank a siege mode TD
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>>180040996
Oh, but Blitz and console got official GuP tank like Panzer IV and Tiger I
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>everytime I get Tundra and see I have friendly arty I go east thinking they'll be able to root out the mediums or lights that rush up there at the start of the game
>and every time the arty does nothing and we lose the east because none of our heavy tanks can effectively push up without exposing their flanks to the lights and mediums
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>>180037986
still doesnt count as 10k dmg ;^)
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>>180040996
Is the red StuG the most iconic tank in GuP?
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>>180042003
Just shoot his tracks nigga like just flank
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>>180041826
All stuff that doesn't work anymore, by the way.
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>>180042003
just outspot him with your lower view range and camo values and outrun him to a good endgame camping spot with your superior mobility. oh wait you can't do that, i mean JUST GIT GUD
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[Muffled screams emanating from the M103]

I actually felt kinda bad after this one
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113 or 1111111 5A?

HP: 2200
Engine power: 750 hp
Weight: 50 tons
Power-to-weight: 15 hp/t
Speed: 50/-15 km/h
Hull rotation: 36 degrees per second
Turret rotation: 26 degrees per second
View range: 400 m
Radio range: 750 m

Hull armor: 140mm/120mm/60mm
Turret armor: 300mm/180mm/60mm

Gun: 130 mm 59-130TA

Alpha damage: 490/490/640
Penetration: 250mm/340mm/65mm
Rate of fire: 5.36 rounds per minute
Damage per minute: 2626.4
Reload time: 11.2 seconds
Accuracy: 0,39
Aiming time: 2.5 seconds
Depression: -10/+23
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>>180045284
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>>180045034
Did 9.19.whatever finally fix that bug?
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>>180045692
What bug? I literally just recorded that clip from my previous game.
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>>180045787
The "detracking means your tank stops" bug, as if the reactor had gone offline or some shit.
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>>180045951
It's not a bug as far as I'm aware, it's a purposeful game feature.

Unless you're memeing me out
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>>180046046
>game with mobility as the basis has an entire mechanic dedicated to removing that mobility
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>>180046210
k
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Memeing aside, that M103 got to tier 9 without a crew trained in repairs. I'm pretty sure a 100% repair crew can repair the tracks faster than the T26E5 in >>180045034 can reload. He deserves what happened to him.
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>>180046210
why yes, yes it does
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Playing against the VK 100.01 is fucking angering
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>>180048761
What, you mean you don't like fighting the old Maus except two tiers lower?
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>>180043014
DELET
THIS
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>>180020771
>realistic tank combat

someone hasn't seen the movie where the finns show up.
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>>180050232
Or the fucking anime for that matter, do they not remember the infamous tank drifting?
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>>180050405
the tank drifting was pretty ridiculous, but the finn commander using echolocation while the driver pops a wheelie on one set of tracks and drives around on that was just pure fantasy

it was hype as fuck though
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Should I stop at Charioteer or Conway is better?
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>>180038548
The only unrealistic parts about the VC tanks is their weight and their engines. Engine could be swapped out for a real engine easily(and thus removing the rear radiator fins as well).
If built for real, they'll probably be around the 40-50 ton range. Nameless might hit 60 ton.
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>everyone says heavies are good in ranked
is it time to dust off the ol' is-7?
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Who thought a tier 8 maus was a good idea again?
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>>180052952
IS-7 has never been a super heavy you mong.
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>>180053457
>it's lower glacis is 190mm dead flat on at best
>except the spaced side armour over the tracks and drivewheel means it can easily overangle and get that up to 240-250mm effective and still have impenetrable side armour
>turret face is 230mm dead flat and an inch above or below it is 270mm effective
>even the fuckmassive german cupola is 220mm thick at it's flatttest point
>even the fucking side of the turret is 170mm thick
>you literally have to have 220mm penetration minimum to even have a chance of penetrating it frontally
>most other Tier 8s it faces will have to use gold, and some can't even penetrate with gold
>and you're just completely fucked in a tier 7 or 6 unless you have an unusually high pen gun
>meanwhile it gets the 12.8cm with 220mm pen and 440 alpha, so it isn't even disadvantaged with a shit gun like the KV-5/4 and O-Ho
>oh and it's also tied for second highest health at tier 8

Yes I am very fucking salty
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>fully aim
>hit track
>hit dirt

Why is 105mm L7 so random?
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>>180058868
It doesn't handle all that well.
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>>180058868

>fully aim
>shot hits dirt
>nudge pipper up
>shot flies over target
>nudge pipper down
>shot hits track
>get close and shove gun right into enemy's face
>bounce

RNG why must you torment me so
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>>180058868
>short fired 9
>direct hits 5

And all these shots were fully aimed.
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Meanwhile Russian 100mm can hit you on the move.
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>>180059502
But that isn't how a "randomly" generated shot distribution works, just stay aimed in the same spot with the pip where you want the shot to go while keeping most of the vehicle inside the reticle circle
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>>180059897

RNG giveth, and RNG taketh away in my experience.

Sometimes I keep the gun completely steady and the shot just keeps whizzing up, down, sideways.

Of course it seems that the circle tightens up at high tiers, especially with well-trained crews.

>half-trained 110 crew can't hit the broadside of a barn from the inside
>full-trained M103 crew can snap long distance shots no sweat

Plus for some guns, it seems that RNG likes to nudge the shots above or below the pipper enough that i have to keep it in mind each game on what it's doing to the shots. Shoot low, aim high. Shoot high, aim low.
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>>180059796
russian meds pull of the same shit on fully aimed shots, they are just noticable more accurate when not fully aimed
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>>180060297
what i hate about wg fucking with shot dispersion is their shitty fucking excuse

>we increased the dispersion to lower the amount of lucky snap shots


guess fucking what you vodka infested slav niggers, snap shots will happen regardless as long as theres rng

but hey, all they needed to do was make fully aimed shots more likely to hit where you aim at
maybe even do it in a few steps

>shoot while traversing the hull and turret and moving - shot is very likely to land near the edges of aiming circle
>shoot while traversing turret but stationary - shot is slightly likely to land near edges of aiming circle

etc etc until you get to fully aimed stationary shots that would have higher chance of hitting your target

bam, suddenly you give people an incentive to actually aim and make snapshots harder without fucking everyone over
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>People still butthurt about muh OP p2w anime tanks
Meanwhile, players that knows their shit are easily killing them.
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Which is better for statpadding:
Hellcat or T71?
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>>180065446
>m-muh bad gun depression
Fuck off, the 5 gun depression is not a downside, the O-Ho has it worse and it does just fine.
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>>180065446
Quickybaby pointed out that the lower front plate is still thick enough to bounce anything when properly angled, it's still fucking OP.
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>>180069435
>>180069369
>Missing the obvious weakspot
It has a shot trap
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Join AWOO today!!!!!!!
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>>179904376
Why didn't they get Alicia's real voice actress?
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Asia forum post:
>I honestly believe that by introducing a fictional tank from a universe not consistent with the era of World of Tanks, WG is doing a long term strategic business error. I'm sure the market for fictional tanks in asia is sufficient for WG to introduce not one but two tanks, but somehow I feel WG has abandoned the very thing that made WOT successful in the first place. As my memory recalls, WG was a small time developer back when it introduced WOT to the world. It was a niche game targeted to war gamers and world war aficionados. WG was very consistent in promoting it as such. Above the line marketing activations were done on channels like History channel or Hitler channel as it was called back then, and below the line activation were done through gatherings events targeted for WW2 fans. WG never positioned WOT as a full blown tank simulation, but the target audience also never expected this. In fact, one of the key success was how WG got just the right mix between arcade vs simulation, and gameplay balance vs historical accuracy. Balancing had been prioritized over historical accuracy, but every tanks are based in some historical roots.

>WOT is also unique in its gameplay, it has enough accessibility for newer players, but also enough depth to keep it interesting overtime. Youtubers like Quickybaby, 4TankersandDog and many others are a testament of this. The camo system, the tactical nature of the maps, the armor penetration system and many other gameplay system unique to WOT make sure that WOT stand out from other games, that are either full arcade games or full blown simulation. In a time where FPS was king, WOT stood out from the rest. In other words, WOT under the management of WG had a very clear strategic direction, product differentiation and very clear brand identity. This allowed WG to communicate its product in a very consistent and differentiated manner from all other games out there. Hence, the success of WOT.
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>>180070070
cont.
>I believe the introduction of tanks from the Valkyrie Chronicles universe will be very very good for short term bottom line of WG in Asia. Many will fall in line to buy this localised content, and many of them will be very happy with the introduction of anime styled tanks. The question is: "at what cost". Does localisation trumps strong brand identity? Does bottom line trumps product differentiation? Is it worth to have fragmentation in the way people perceive World of Tanks. I believe a more balance scorecard is necessary to keep WOT aligned with it's root. Is WOT really is only a platform to sell countless number of tanks? I doubt this was the thinking when WOT was first invented. In the company that I work for, every decision external and internal is being subjected to the golden rule of "Is this initiative adding anything to our brand?". We believe in our company, that brand strategy is the mother of all strategy in a day and age where almost everything is commoditized. What will stop WOT from being commoditized if WG forgets what made them successful in the first place. Asian gaming market is very well known of being disloyal, customers quickly and easily jump ship to the next big MMO. There is an existing user base that feels alienated by the latest change, it's very risky to ignore the very people that made WOT what it is today. Even though these people might be the minority in the Asian market, but they are the ones staying with WOT through thick and thins. They don't just change games.
>I might be wrong about all this, and of course WG has access to all the market research and sales analytics on their hands. I'm just a customer who fell in love with WOT and WG could inform us what it has in store for WOT of the future. I hope it's a future that I can be aligned to.

tl;dr
WG is ruining the game for adding an openly fictional tank.
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TSCHOO TSCHOO power creep is here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PK-sNHp7a0
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>>180070397
>a deal with SAIGA
didn't know 12 gauge shotguns made games
I do agree that the tank is bullshit OP and ridiculous looking, as such does not fit within the aesthetic of the game and should never be sold on EU/NA/RU
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>>180070514
Is it a bigger bullshit OP than the Chrysler?
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>>180070574
Considering that you can just penetrate the top of the hull if you shoot the shot trap, not exactly.
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>>180052952
I got one of my 3 tank points in the IS-7, works pretty well with full APCR
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>>180070650

How big are those weak spots and how easy are they to hit in game?
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>>180070748
The Nameless is a tall tank.

If you can't hit the shot trap you can try for the tall cupola.

Its very easy for the shot trap to be exposed due to the shit gun depression so players tend to expose more of the tank.
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>>180070574
It has the DPM of the patriot, the 300 alpha damage of the liberté, the frontal armor of the defender, almost as much side armor as the defender, more track armor than any of the borderline OP tier 8 premiums (40mm vs the usual 25) better mobility than the patriot -on par with tier 8 mediums- 50kph top speed, a decent 370 view range, better gun handling and terrain resistance than any of the borderline OP tier 8 premiums, good penetration, only 10% fire chance on engine hit; and the cupola while not Chrysler tier bullshit is much better armored than the Liberté's

Just check it for yourself if you don't believe me
http://tanks.gg/compare/nameless?t=amx-m4-49-l~defender~t26e5-p
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>>180070957
It also has a thin lower frontal plate and if the other anon is to be believed, a shot trap, the side armor is mostly flat unlike the defender, a large part of which isn't covered by the tracks, and as others constantly pointed out, terrible gun depression.

Does the negatives and positives balance it somewhat?
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>>180071321
not in the slightest unless you're bottom tier. If you hide your tiny LFP, tier 7s firing gold won't be able to pen you anywhere else than the cupola which is still ~200mm and the shot trap. Tier 8s will have to load gold to pen you anywhere else and if you angle properly you can even bounce their gold
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>>180071419
>you can even bounce their gold
I've had an Obj 268 bounce a shot off my Nameless.

As for the shot trap, the turret looks a lot like the stock KT turret, the Porsche turret. That turret has a shot trap on the front. Same thing on the Nameless.
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>>180071507
How thick is the armor in the shot trap?
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>>180071584
>>180071584
Turret front is 240mm

If you hit the shot trap the shell will bounce down into the top of the hull and penetrate the roof.
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Erm new thread now. I get panic attacks whenever the post count exceeds 300. So do it now, someone make a new thread.
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>>180070070
>>180070141
complete bullshit from an autistic manchild. the only issue with the tanks if their performance
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hehehehehehe
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Is there a place where I can see population statistics over time?
I just want to see if this whole collaboration is killing or boosting the Asia server.
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>>180074000
nice potato pc you have
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If WG is adding fantasy vehicles into the game, then when can we expect these T H I C C tanks to be added in?
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>>180074938
it's a top of the line gaming laptop from the year of our lord 2012
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>>180071419
Well you still have to hide/angle the the lower front plate, which is more than what people have to do in the Chrysler.
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>>180075206
Yep, those look like some Tier VIII premiums.
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>>180070070
>>180070141
What drivel. That dude is just eternally butthurt that he doesn't have the money for tanks.
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>>180050232
>>180050405
>Reading comprehension.
I said more realistic than world of tanks, not realistic in the sense that it imitates real life. They don't have shitty spotting mechanics, or slip n slide rocks, or paper tanks made out of rubber balls.
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>>180078582
A different player
>As a tank fan from way back these Anime tanks have definitely alienated me, I have dropped thousands on this game over the years, I enjoyed the relevant historical realism in the game as well as the realistic looking tanks models in the game and I have enough disposable income to help pay for the game.

>Burning creds did not matter, burning gold did not matter, buying a prem' because I felt like it did not matter.

>I no longer intend to spend money with WG unless absolutely necessary to allow me to play standard tanks, which I anticipate will reduce my spending on WG as a supplier to at best 1/10th of what it used to be.

>To achieve this I will simply play the game as a free to play player might do. My faith in the games ability to keep me interested has disappeared.

>I am not whining and I am not expecting WG to care about my account, just trying to explain how this move to cartoon tanks has affected my view of the game and a lot of other people I deal with as a clan commander.

>In short I agree with the OPs thoughts regarding the damage this will do to the brands identity, because from my perspective the brand took a massive negative hit with the introduction of a line of vehicles that differs so very much with what I signed up to 4 years ago.

Are old players this much of an entitled elitist prick in the other servers?
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>>180079243
>It took the introduction of anime tanks to convince him that JewGayming is shit.
Confirmed redshitter with terminal brain damage. The forums truly are a terrible, frightening place.
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>>180079098
No but they do have a coating that would make the tank impenetrable and none of the crew ever gets injured from getting shot at point blank.
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>>180079341
For real. If he was gonna quit wasting money he should have done it when they released the defender. The VC tanks are just something nice for collectors and fans.

The onlgy other premium I have purchased is the Tiger 131 so I can't wait.
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>>180079243
>I enjoyed the relevant historical realism in the game
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>>180080032
They keep pointing to the WG promotional paragraph
>World of Tanks is a cult MMO game dedicated to armored machines that has won the affection of players all over the world. A variety of in-game locations, historical accuracy, realistic gameplay — join the army of tankers already tearing up the battlefield and plunge into legendary combat!

Out of all those words, they took "historical accuracy" and put it on a pedestal.
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Someone talk me out of buying this shit
https://worldoftanks.asia/en/news/game-events/ps-valkyria-chronicles-tanks/
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>>180080506
That's stupid. Considering that "realistic gameplay" is the very next phrase that clearly was never true. Historical accuracy hasn't mattered in years considering all the sekrit document tanks. They're just buttblasted reddit autismos
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>>180080802
Buy it for me, that way you won't be tempted to buy it for yourself because you don't have the money.
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>>180080802
If you're not in Asia don't buy it. Wait for it to come to america. I'm sure you're a VC fan so no harm no foul. It's not like these fags protested the defender when it came out, so why should weebs not buy the VC tanks.
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>>180080804
>They're just buttblasted reddit autismos
Is reddit annoyed too? I haven't checked out the WoT subreddit, but I had thought that the butthurt was mainly confined to the forums?
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>>180080924
The Defender is a historical tank, these tanks are completely fictional and doesn't fit the game.
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>>180081094
>these tanks are completely fictional and doesn't fit the game
Yes and?
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>>180081154
It's not historically accurate, the Defender may have never been produced but it has historical basis.
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>>180081234
So a paper tank.
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>>179877238
>being this big of a wallet warrior
SHIGGY
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>>180081281
But it has historical basis unlike the Valkyria Chronicles tank that is completely fictional.
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>>179900342
poorfags gtfo my tank hobby autism game
t. 45yo single dad
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>>180081094
Look on the wiki dude and you'll notice that half the tanks in the game say "no historical data found". This shit is hardly different.


Historical has always been up to WG. People are just blinded by impotent rage because this one came from an anime game.
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>>180081354
>that is completely fictional.
And?

Besides, anything beyond Tier V on the Japanese Heavy line is completely fictional too. Only the O-I Exp has any historical basis.
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>>180081530
The O-I exp is fictional. The O-I and type 5 are the Japs tanks that actually existed.
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>>180081354
Historical basis or not, it's still a paper tank meaning it wasn't made and saw service.
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>>180081782
But it has a historical basis which fits into the game's setting, the Valkyria Chronicles tanks are from something else entirely and does not fit into the WoT world, it's about immersion, putting in anime tanks breaks the suspension of disbelief.
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>>180081923
Yeah and that didn't work out well in WoWs, now did it?
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Someone make a mod for the Asia server that turns the Edelweiss and Nameless olive drab colors.

I think it's just the colors that's bothering them.
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>>180081923
>putting in anime tanks breaks the suspension of disbelief.


Nigga if it took anime tanks to break your suspension of disbelief rather than tanks literally disappearing in front of your face, I don't know what to tell you.

If the Nazi designed TDs with magic cloaking devices at 300m, I can believe that the gooks saw a tank in a video game decided to make it real.
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Why do so many angry veterans play WoT? They are really fucking annoying as both players and on the forums.
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>>180081923
>it's about immersion, putting in anime tanks breaks the suspension of disbelief.
Are you seriously claiming that there's any immersion in WoT?
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>>180081923
> putting in anime tanks breaks the suspension of disbelief.
And tanks disappearing behind bushes after sitting still for a few seconds isn't?
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>>180082294
I tried to get one of my friends who was an actual tanker to play WoT with me and he immediately gave up and started playing War Thunder. Anybody who actually cares about realism doesn't play this game.

As to why so many vets play this, I don't know.
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>>180081923
>it's about immersion
If i care so much about immersion, i'd go play realistic mode on war thunder but i want trashy fun instead.
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Why does nobody in the Asia server point out that the Edelweiss is an AMX CDC with better terrain resistance and armor?

http://tanks.gg/compare/edelweiss?t=amx-cdc

This is far more dangerous than the Nameless.
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>>180082795
Who's the driver for the Edelweiss?
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>>180082795
Because the Edelweiss has pretty mediocre stats otherwise. I can only afford one of them atm and I'm getting the Edelweiss since VC1 is the only game I actually played in the series. The Nameless is way more OP so they should be bitching about that instead.
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>>180082953
>Who's the driver for the Edelweiss?

Hopefully Isara.
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>>180082795
Because everyone played VC1 and is rather fond of it along with the fact that it,Edelweiss, once had a great driver.
VC3 on the other hand wasn't even officially localized and only a few played that game.
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>>180083134
If she is, It's instant buy.
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>>180083318
If you're on console like me it's probably Welkin since the only crew member you can see is the Commander. Either way I'm buying.
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>>180081472
>wiki having any credit whatsoever
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>Mid-Tier game
>Cap - 2nd generation of eastern European immigrants living in a plastic clad tower block in outskirts of the city scream at me to stop,
>Stop capping - they report me for ruining the game (we win because I kill the last, 10% enemy light tank).

>Play a Japanese tank
Everyone screams why I don't brawl in a game full of Russian heavies.

I hope WG isn't stupid enough to actually these reports seriously.
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>>180085962
Not to forget that it's always the noobs who die a minute into the game.
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>>180085962
I thought the report system was automated
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So why is this the straw that broke the camel's back for so many people? Did they not notice that the Waffle Traktor, Conqueror GC, T28 proto, and many other tanks were made up as well?


What's the difference between Wargaming making up a tank and SEGA making up a tank? It's just something fun for the fans to play.
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>>180087189
literally just that its "anime"
they write paragraphs about how their beloved historical accuracy is being stomped on that ends with the words "weebshit"

quickybaby spent more time in his video complaining about the voice acting than talking about the tank

p2w is ok as long as it esports and not cute girls that threaten my masculinity
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Might as well put this in the game and wonder why people are angry
weebs really are delusional
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>>180087189
Because it has zero historical basis. If Hitler told one of his military leaders through mail on an idea for a tank he had and WG implemented a tank based off of that description it's still historical to some extent.
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>>180087681
>have it shoot solely HE
I would actually buy that
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>>180087703
>Because it has zero historical basis.

Neither do any of the tanks I mentioned. Those tanks are just as fictional. Historical fanfiction and video game faction are two sides of the same coin.


A few years ago WG considered adding "future tanks" to the game and nobody batted an eye.
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>>180087854
>its just a reskin of the type 5
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How is the Crusader after it become medium tank?
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>>180088260
exactly the same but without keeping its camo value on the move, which isn't that big of a nerf really
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>>180088085
Motherfuckers would line up at the WG offices to buy a tank crewed and voiced by Tommy Vercetti. I wouldn't even be mad if they put the Rhino in.
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>>180088028
>hurr I read a wikipedia article and couldn't find the tank WG put in
First kill yourself then quit pretending that the developers who have done research with primary source documents are at the same level of fiction as literal fantasy
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>>180087681

WG would never put something like that into the game because then they'd have to fully implement wheeled vehicles
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>>180088028
>WG revealed they are introducing future tanks
That was an April Fools prank you mouth breather
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>>180088467
please stop pretending it makes a difference when those historical and fictional tanks are put into an arcade shooter where they climb mountains and 30 tanks brawl at point blank range in an arena the size of a fooball field
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>>180088467
You're fucking retarded if you think every tank in this game was real. Those little summaries Wargaming writes aren't to be taken at face value.
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>>180088662
>>180088724
Not an argument. Define "real" because there is only a lack of historical accuracy for the tanks that didn't exist completely in the way the game portrays them.
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WG should make GuP tanks instead. Agree?
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>>180089196
Yes.
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>>180089028
What's your definition of real? There are already tanks in the game have zero basis in reality yet nobody cares. I don't care if this game gets more fake tanks because shit like the Grille 15 is so obviously made up too.
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>>180089486
I don't use 'real' I use to what extent is the tank historically accurate.
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>>180089624
That's meaningless. Either there is proof that the tank existed or was planned to exist, or the tank does not exist. Historical accuracy is a buzzword people are using to justify their favorite made up tanks while saying anime tanks couldn't be in the game.
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>5 years later weebs are still throwing sissyfits over pantsushit on /wotg/
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I just torrented all of GuP and installed Valkyria Chronicles on steam to show weeba solidarity
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>WZ-132A
>get tracked in front of a 13 90 with only one shot left in the magazine
>TVP T50/51 appears
>batchat appears
>Emil II appears
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>>180090179
Weebs aren't the ones getting butthurt since apparently /wotg/ is the only community that realizes WG has been pulling this shit for years.
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>>180088325
What equipment should I use for Crusader? I already have vent and rammer.
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>>180090002
>historical accuracy is a buzzword
The tanks aren't fiction they're only less historically accurate.
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>>180090002
>Either there is proof that the tank existed or was planned to exist, or the tank does not exist
Which is why I use to what extent, is it really that difficult for you to understand?

>Historical accuracy is a buzzword people are using to justify their favorite made up tanks
Circular reasoning, confirmation bias
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>>180091649
I too have read the wikipedia article on logical fallacies
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>>180091738
Not an argument
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>>180091880
Neither is saying not an argument btw
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>large first aid gives -5% stun duration as passive additionally to the old +15% crew prot
why even equip small medkits
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>>180091931
to quoque
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>>180091957
they're cheap
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Shouldn't the person proposing that the tank exist prove that it exists at least as a document before the other person prove that the document doesn't exist?
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>>180091485
Historical accuracy is not variable.
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>>180092010
Only if the latter is unfalsifiable, in this case it's not
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>>180092057
/pol/ has some alternative facts that disagree
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why are the swis 75mm so shit
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>British 57mm: 75 damage
>Japanese 57mm: 75 damage
>American 57mm: 75 damage

>Russian 57mm: 85 damage
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>>180093308
stalinium
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>>180093308
>KV-2 HE pen: 86mm
>Jagdpanzer E100 HE pen: 85mm
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>>180093538
>KV2 HE pen: 86mm
>Jagdpanzer E100 HE pen: 85mm
>T110E3/4 HE pen: 90mm
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>>180094178
Fuck off, Kay.
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>>180094363
Why is German HE, (not counting the E50M's 120mm equivalent HE), so weak compared to other nations HE shells? I know its not really that important, but why gimp them in their derp potential?
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>>180094178
>121B HE pen: 105mm
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>>180091957
Now that first aid kits are reusable healing multiple crew members is possible without paying 5x the cost. There is reason to use a bigger kit.
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>>180095516
I just buy massive amounts of consumables during sales so I don't have to pay for them each battle
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>>180095421
>FV215B 183 HE pen: 230mm
British confirmed superior.
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>>180095701
>a grenade designed to not penetrate
>penetrates 230mm of steel
Historical accurate Tovarish)))))
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>>180095516
big med kits lower the risk of your crew members dieing, they also lower stun duration but its only like 1 sec less so i dont know if its even worth mentioning
i dont use them on any tank and sell the ones i get by events
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>>180091313
vent, camo net, optics
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>>180097213
>gun that reloads faster than it can aim
GLD duh
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>>180097597
3 marked mine with that setup. do whatever floats your boat m8
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So what is summer giveaway day 1
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>credit went down under one million

I feel uncomfortable.
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>tfw you take advantage of your rare OP CW reward tank to farm chevrons in ranked
feels a bit dirty desu
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>spend a round bullying someone who was being a shit in the chat pushing them out of cover
>servers are fucked up and can't message him after the round
kind of takes the wind out of your sails
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>>180096051
It's just secret British bias, you're not supposed to use their guns with AP, which is exactly why they all have high pen HE :^)
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>>180089196
Did they not already do that?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-gSUxNC3G4

Do WoT players seriously think that all the tanks in their game is realistic?
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>2017
>people in the forums still triggered by anime
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>>180099439
Just do what I do, anon.

>find strv cuck tank
>drive behind it when it's in siege
>take crushing damage
>they turn blue
>get subsequently banned in half a second
>can't message you after the game
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nothing like getting randomly trolled
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I remember when the Patton KR came out, people started bitching about how unrealistic the paintjob is.

This is why WoT can't make any money, there's good money in more cosmetic options but if it goes just a bit out there, players call out "HISTORICALLY INACCURATE" "DOES NOT BELONG IN WORLD OF TANKS" "IMMERSION RUINED"
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>>180101508
For PC only skins and voice mods and most of them already outdated.
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>>180102434
It is a real paintjob though.
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>>180102987
That's the point.
The people crying about muh aesthetics aren't actual historical tank enthusiasts, they just get mad over anything that looks outlandish, god forbid a players wants to stand out in a crowd.
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>>180101656
Yes, there are some retards out there who don't see the problem with open topped TDs having more crew members than available seats. The latter German TDs never made it off the drawing off boards if they existed at all.

The fact that the tanks are from a different video game is hardly an issue.
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xvm doesnt work in ranked battles?
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>>180103453
>create your own napkin tank
>sneak into WG offices
>slip it inside their historical documents
>wait 6 months for it to be released in-game
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>>180103453
But it's the AESTHETICS.
Completely fictional tanks are fine so long as it looks like WW2 or post-war tanks, aesthetically.
Does the Chrysler K blueprint have that WG league sign on it?
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>>180103174
This is why I want official GuP tanks. Imagine how butthurt they will be when they get kill by one of these
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>>180104079
Does the Chrysler K blueprint have that WG league sign on it?


That's the reason I don't even listen to the people going on about "muh historical accuracy" there were many more premium tank released before the VC tanks that didn't fit into the game. Normalfags just hate anime for some reason. In the QB comments you can still find people saying anime is for virgins, losers, neckbeards, and other assorted weirdos.

Not to pull the current year meme, but it's 2017 and people still think you can't like anime or anime like games and be a well adjusted member of society? Come the fuck on.
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>WG releases standard Edelweiss
>WG won't sell the "upgraded" Edelweiss with bigger gun and heavier armor
>nor the Shamrock

at least WG knows when to quit while they're ahead
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Weeb holocaust when ?
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>>180105035
The shamrock was garbage even in game. I'm pretty sure I blew up in that thing or left it in base more often than I ever used it to kill krauts.
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>>180105256
WoT is quintessentially a weeb game.
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>>180105279

I still think it's a cutie.

Although if it ever did get in-game, the best it'd be is a T5 premium light/medium, and even then because of the gun it'd probably be a crappy T5.
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>>180105395
Then why do they resist the new Asian tanks so much?
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these ranked battles seem pretty fun desu
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>>180106194
nevermind just encountered first mauses+type5s combo on city map
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Why do people complain about the Chrysler K's machine gun ports not being a weak spot?
It's historically accurate since the machine guns are fired remotely, all the crew are inside the turret.
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>mfw
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>>180107145
it should still be easier to penetrate a machine gun than the rest of the frontal plate, regardless of whats behind the armour
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>>180107242
quicky gon' git u
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>>180107242
>81% hit rate
>typical aim bot user
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>>180107242
>quckybaby
>qucky
confirmed for cuckhold
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How much credit do you have right now? Mine 1,455,103.

I'm not the poorest, right?
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>>180108949
Currently at 1,024,667 with 582 gold.
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>>180108949
ranked feels
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>>180111096
>155,974

Do you load pure gold or what?
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Do you think WT models look better than WoT?
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>>180111517
chevrons ain't free
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>>180111713
It depends. In WoT it seems like some of the vehicles aren't drawn to scale and have a chipped paint aesthetic. WT models look kinda rusted.


Sometimes I can't even tell the difference between them if I don't see the background.
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Anyone platoon NA east? T5-T9, pref. T7+
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Anyone have Panther remodel for VK 3002 M?
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There was an anon in the last thread saying that the scale/proportionality of many tanks in WoT is incorrect. Does anybody know of any examples of this?
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>>180118467
E25 is way too tiny, it should be as big as an E50 hull
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>>180119656
Looks like they made the E-25 on the scale of the E-10.
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What is with the bullshit rng ammo rack mechanic? I have 9k battles and I still don't understand why this exists. I understand you can aim for ammo, so it isn't COMPLETE rng.
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>>180118467
T95 is way off its about the size of the E100
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>>180121872
it's not rng at all, you have an ammorack like any other internal module, if it takes enough damage to go red and get knocked out it explodes
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>>180122168
but its not like it goes orange and then red after 2 shots, it sometimes gets fucked completely to red and you explode. What other than RNG decides whether it goes orange or red?
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>>180122276
same thing that determines if your tracks go red or your engine gets knocked out, modules have their own hitpoints and different shots do different amounts of damage to them
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what if we could loan tanks between players for gold?

say 250-500 gold per player for a 3 day swap?
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Today I ammoracked a full hp Type 59 with a single shot from a Tortoise.
But after comparing the module hp of the 59's rack to the module damage of the top gun on the Tortoise it should have been left with 5 points of health.
Did the other guy just get super unlucky and have the shell travel through multiple ammo clusters and fail both saving throws?
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>>180124178
it might have already taken some damage from arta splash or something without taking HP damage to the tank
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>>180124178
There's a percent chance of damaging and destroying modules depending on the gun and the module health. The percent increases if the module has been shot previously.
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Do you want test drive feature like in War Thunder?
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Anyone else find the Challenger fun?
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>>180125514
Only when top tier on certain maps. Otherwise it's a pain in the ass. The Charioteer is far better.
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>>180125514
It's ugly.
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is it even possible to play a tier 6 without being bottom tier anymore?
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>>180126281
Define bottom tier, is a tier 6-7 match the same as a tier 6-8 match?
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>>180126969
by bottom i mean bottom, the past 10 games i've had were all t8 games, and i've noticed there being a distinct correlation between me being bottom tier and me losing
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Easy 8 or Jumbo?
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>>180127230
Jumbo stock turret
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>>180070574

the chrysler is trash
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Reminder that the BLACKED Prince is a good tonk
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>>180127230
Firefly
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I didn't think they could do it after the Liberté.
I didn't think they could do it after the Defender.
I didn't think they could do it after the Patriot.
I didn't think they could do it after the Chrysler.
But the absolute mad men did it again!
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>>180104813
Like some other anon said why not add the Rhino into the game and then wonder why people don't want it in the game. It's not so much that it's unhistorical but even if the tanks that existed only in blue prints aren't completely historical at least they're from WWII or the Cold War era. Why do you VCfags even try to justify these tanks? I personally don't care because I won't have trouble killing them, but how are you going to pretend the ones complaining are the ones being unreasonable? They have every right to be mad it's not as if they dislike the tanks because it's new or something different.
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>complaining about "anime tanks"
>when the Fury, a tank from a fucking movie, exists
>when the Rudy, a tank from a TV show, exists
>And both of them are literal reskins of normal tanks sold as premiums

>Then there's the outright fake tanks
So much for historical accuracy, eh.
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>>180136809
>tanks with unhistorical crews
>anime cancer
literally not the same. Let alone that the nameless is retardedly overpowered (again)
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>>180124178
25% RNG roll
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>>180137753
nameless is good but idk if you could call a tank the size of a maus with an autopen shot trap OP
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>>180137995
>fastest t8 heavy
>frontal armor that rivals the defender
>300 alpha with same dpm as patriot but better gunhandling than patriot, liberte and defender
>lets give it the highest HP while we are at it

Fuck off, that shits more OP than the chrysler and defender ever dares to be
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>>180138260
except its twice the size of any of those tanks and every tier 6 it sees can pen it without a second thought if they're not retarded
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>>180138406
Okay dumbfuck now explain to me how a tank with the best in tier gunhandling combined with the best in tier mobility except for traverse and the best in tier DPM for any heavy is somehow not OP because it has a meme weakspot and is impenetrable outside of that
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>>180138650
>>180138406
Under that note, do you consider the defender not to be an OP pile of trash because it has easily penned cupolas?
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>>180138650
because the meme weakspot is very easy to hit and hard to hide, and its very hard to angle it properly or fully hide yourself in cover because of the size
the massive height and bad gun depression mean you have you overexpose yourself to take shots in it as well

it's good, it's not any more broken than the defender or patriot though, and the most broken thing about it is probably the zero skill boi crew
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i don't know why i have 100 bonds but rammer+ or vstab+ for statpad 64
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>>180140612
nvm 6th 1 second earlier is better than 5% anything
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>>180140781
wait are these fucking consumables
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>>180136809

So when do I get my leman russ, anon? It's not any worse than anime retardation Mk 3: Fatfuck Luchs edition.

Actually fuck that, I want the tank from Tron.
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>>180141167
>not holding out for a baneblade
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>>180141297

>Baneblade
>In a game where the devs won't stop drinking the vodka to impliment multi turrets

That would be a pathetic waste. Shadowsword would be less so, suck it 183.
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>>180141167
>>180141297
>>180141428
>40kuck
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>>180141787

GTFO faggot, if these twits get malformed down syndrome looking vehicles we can have our grorious humanity fuck yea vehicles.
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>>180141954
>humanity fuck yeah
rage comics tier
>>
all tanks are beautiful, regardless of fictional universe of origin
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>>180141954
>implying VC is anywhere near the autism that is 40K

I've never met a functioning adult that liked 40K.
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>>180138260
>Point gun slightly above center of mass of huge tank
>Penetrate through the roof regardless of your pen
Is that hard to do?

Because of the size and god awful gun depression, one often ends up exposing a lot of the tank, the relatively butter sides are easy to expose if you fuck up the angling(and the -8 gun dep past 45 degrees makes it easier to fuck up). This opens the Nameless up for arty fire(Which, thanks to its size, is quite the threat) and that makes it easier to kill because of the crew stun. The tracks are extremely exposed which makes it easy to perma track it in a shitty position, again, for arty as well.
Its fast in a straight line but turns slow, circling can kill it, especially so if you detrack it and circle it.
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>FastyFetus mentions the Edelweiss looking somewhat like something from 40K
Get me Games Workshop and Wargaming on the phone right fucking now.
Predator Destructor as tier 8 UK premium WHEN?

>>180079724
>purchased a premium that isn't out yet
Impressive.
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I have blueprints sketched on the back of a one piece volume found in the yasukuni shrine that show an experimental japanese tank destroyer mounted with a 240mm naval cannon

the price is 100,000 USD to destroy them instead of handing them to wargaming HQ
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>>180145406
The Tiger 131 has been out for 6 months on console. Get with the program.
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>>180133815
>add the Rhino
>add an APC armed with the equivalent of heavy machineguns
The Predator is the actual tank based off that chassis, m8.

Also, unlike most of WoT's vehicles, a Rhino was actually built.
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>>180141787
>throws stones
>lives in a glass house
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>>180146592
He meant the GTA Rhino
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>>180146762
i'm not a weeb. i do masturbate to small chested japanese girls but i cringe at anime tanks.
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>>180147024
40K tanks are more "realistic", if worse designed, than VC tanks however.
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>>180147319
who cares? they're still dumb shit straight out of a fat virgin's wet dream
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>>180147716
And the dumb shit straight out of slav's vodka induced stupor isn't?
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>>180147871
are you intentionally retarded or is this just you
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>>180147930
>bias against a tank no more or less ludicrous than some of the shit passed as "sekrit dokuments tovarisch ))))))))))" because that tank was featured in a japanese franchise
Are you?
>>
>>180148323
yes but that's irrelevant. your retarded fantasy tanks don't even put up the pretense of having ever even been a concept in the head of an engineer. the current japanese heavies are already pushing it. adding in literal fantasy tanks would absolutely destroy the atmosphere of the game.
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>>180149079
>ruin the atmostphere of the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfvAODg8mKE
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>>180149209
edge cases won't win you an argument shitter
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>>180149574
>edge cases
literally any tank can do that, because this is a rompy arcade shooter that handles like mario kart
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>>180149079
I don't see what makes the VC tanks so much more fantasy than the O-Is tbqh.

Also I wonder if there would be this much of a stink if they were introduce GuP version of normal tanks as premiums. I mean, they were in an anime, right? And ANIME TANKS REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>180150151
look at these things. they'd might as well add a rainbow dash tank with them.
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>>180150407
and there it is
big tank man's masculinity is threatened by girly anime tanks

thats what all of this has always been about
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>>180150407
>blitz
So dies your opinion.
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>>180150512
you may have misunderstood, i'm arguing in favor of a rainbow dash tank
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>>180150583
Go to sleep $mh
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>>180152438
>>
Forum post time
>Because at least mechanically and based on technology the other tanks could have existed. The laws of mechanics and physics work for them.

>These simply don't. You can either be a medium weight, engine power and mobility OR you can have heavy armour. Nameless has both. More armour than a Defender which has massive sloping and a 540 hp engine? It should either be less mobile than a KV-4 or armoured like a 50-100 instead it is mobile like a 50-100 and armoured like a KV-4. It's power to weight is similar to a 50 100 and that has no armour at all but weighs 15 more tons.

>I don't give a shit that it's a weebmobile it's just the fact that it is a physical impossibility (actually I can live without Anime tanks in this game but that is not my primary objection here). Once you start just making numbers up you have opened Pandora's box.

>Wargaming have been warming up the motorbike for ages but now they are midway across the pool full of sharks and they can't turn around. It is the dumbest thing as well because they have failed to generate the interest for any of their other games and now they have finally started killing off the one that could have kept them going for another 5 or more years.
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Is gun depression such a big deal?
People throw Nameless' gun depression like it makes everything alright, it doesn't.
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>>180155249
It makes it tougher to fight on uneven ground
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>Isara as driver for Edelweiss
Well looks like my money will be spent, Warhammer 40k tanks when?9
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>>180150407
Fuck you!
They both look absolutely more gorgeous than a panther.
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Tiger 131 soon, fellow PCfags.
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>>180150151
idk WOWS had web shit for a event
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>AWOO and NICO member in my game
>they both die

coincidence?
>>
I kinda wanna join awoo just so I can be in the discord and have some sense of community playing WoT again
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>>180159863
Because when I played my stock Tiger tank I really thought to myself "Gee, wouldn't it be great to pay gold for this?"
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>>180162003
It's tier 6 though. And it's more or less exactly like the JapTiger, which isn't that bad a tier 6.
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>>180150151
>GuP version of normal tanks as premiums
Tiger P with Nitro boost ans StuG with portable cloaking, yes please.
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>>180162143
active cloak already exists, it's called camo net
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>>180162412
No, i mean you can't be detected with proximity spotting.
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>>180136809
the fury and rudy are tanks that actually exist, retard. An easy 8 with a gas mask hanging on the front is stil an easy 8.
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>>180093196
Swedish =/= Swiss
also because WG is retarded and didnt give it the 57mm like i told them. Heck it had a 105mm howitzer in testing but nope
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>tfw SEA
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>>180163891
It's not actually a M4A3E8 though.
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>>180164128
you have exactly one chance to prove you aren't retarded with that statement
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Lupus Regnum when?
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>>180164285
>spaced armour literally fucking everywhere

dear god no

I didn't sin anywhere enough for that kind of punishment
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>>180164329
The mantlet isn't though.
>>180164285
Also Geirolulz
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>>180164383
Oh yeah it's just ultra thicc, super sloped jagdtiger mantlet armour
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>>180164245
The tank in the movie is an M4A2 with HVSS and 76mm gun.
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>>180164418
You could go after the tracks then wail at it from behind since it has terrible turret traverse.
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>>180164285
A non armored version for comparison.
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>>180161557
Could just ask for the discord.
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Reading the Asia forums, they seem to have a lot of old players that are also historical tank enthusiasts.

What was WoT like when there were only real, non-paper tanks?
They talk about it like it was perfect.
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>>180165387
Complaining about russian bias all the time
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Edelweiss when? EU btw
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>>180164285
looks suprisingly close to the type 5 heavy
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>>180166520
Never because FastyToddler has already warned WG not to bring them out of Asia server and because all the loyal players has sworn to quit if they added it.
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>>180162128
Tiger 131 isn't tier VI on console.
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>>180166685
I hope WG doesn't listen to some Youtube cuck. Fuck QB and his legion of tomato drones
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last post
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>>180150151
Those thingies at their asses
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