/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

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Only viable faction

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HAK HAK HAK

What's the best ascension path?
Are kinetics still the one weapon to rule them all?

>>179817112
The arguments in the pastebin for Kinetic Battery in Large slots and Plasma on smaller slots seem solid to me.
Large slot kinetics bring down the shields, then when in range the plasma melts the armor.

put

/cbg/

/rtsg/

in

the

op

>>179817112
Voidborne -> Genemodding

>>179814989
A slinger will never do better than an archer.

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>>179816795
so why am i only getting 1.6, i researched all the +1 max influence from parties techs or is it just not giving me the right information and thats the max its showing me as +1's.

>>179817543
Define "better"

>>179817561
It's still modified by how big the faction is.

redpill me on stellaris

>>179817724
It's an okay game but it's design has various minor issues that compound together to weaken the experience

>>179817561

the more members in a faction the more influence they give, it's multiplied by 0.32 due to it being small

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>Wiz is a faggot

>>179817419
They're not mutually exclusive though

You need another ascension perk already for genemod so
First Perk: Voidborn
2nd: ?
3rd: Genemod
4th: Genemod+

>>179818034
It's good that planets aren't just color swaps.

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>Be me
>play ES2
>finally find a MP game
>Empire Ahoy
>Horatio attacks the colonies. Vodyani send an ark to the capital
>Successfully defend both due to stupid good start.
>Gather up an attack force to counter attack Horatio.
>Success! He quits. Except no manpower to take his worlds.
>Gather up another to hit Vodyani.
>He already lost an ark to me, what could go wrong.
>twf he is a cheater.
>twf he has 8 arks parked in his home system
>twf still kill 2 of them
>After cheating in a few more arks he quit. Leaving us with an AI on the rampage.
>Sign truce with the AI
>Oh well at least I get Horatio home worlds.
>Tree branch spreads from neighbouring constellation.
>Tree spent that antire time building up a fleet.
>Be losing to the tree.
>AI parks an ark between me, and Horatio home worlds where tree is invading and my base.

I couldn't make this shit up folks. We ended up having a good laugh an quit the game.

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>>179818034

Yes he is

>>179818034

>waaaaah I want a cookie cutter symmetric strategy game where everything is the same with no variety and everything is a copy paste of everything else with a different shade of red

fuck off to starcraft you annoying baby

>>179817543
In MoM they will

>>179817724
>>179817874
This. Mods help a lot though

>>179818408

>Everyone starts with the same type of planet because the others are shit now
>"balance lol"

Get fucked

>>179817876
>>179817668
thanks

>>179818293
>Cheating in a 4x game.
Why do people do this.

>>179818408
You're the only one acting like an annoying baby.
And throwing out insults left and right does nothing to support any sort of argument you try to make.

>>179817724
Horrible UI. Mods like Tiny and 1080p help immensely.
I tend to say that mods aren't mandatory, but when it comes to the stellaris UI I might make an exception.

Mechanically the development is pretty lackluster compared to every other 4x.
In theme and atmosphere it is alright.

>>179818557

Good luck doing anything if all you colonize are 1 type of planet that spawns as equally as the rest m8, I predict you on 3 planets while everybody else is >15 by 2050.

>>179817573
Looks cool, has a better range, better armor penetration, can poison his arrows, and has one extremely muscular arm...

>>179818647
>Why do people do this.
Well in this case his ark rush strat failed, for Vodyani losing an ark early on is gg, and he apparently decided that ruining the game for everyone else is a nice cancellation prize.

>>179818778

>You need them at the start for advantage
>They still remain important for the rest of the game

>>179818816
In the game halfling slingers are even better than high elf longbowmen though.

At recruit level of experience Longbowmen deal slightly more damage, but halflings block more damage.
Every level after that and they deal equal amounts of damage, or the halflings start dealing more at the high levels.
Buffs also affect halfling slingers more than the others, since the halfling unit has 8 figures, while other archers have 6 figures, and if you boost a units attack by 1, you boost each figure in that units attack by 1.

>>179818778

> >15 by 2050

>>179706370 eat shit faggot

Quick Stellaris question: can I vassalize a faction if the war score cost is over 100? I notice when I hit 100 war score I can force my demands on them and it says 1000/Force Demands so I'm curious if that really is the limit.

Give me the rundown on Distant Worlds anons. What do you think of it?

>>179818408
Wiz why don't you fix your fucking game instead of shitposting in here.

>>179820992
I played it three times.

And yet I have more than 30 hours played according to Steam.

>>179821046
Ever since Johan started calling monarch power mana, he has made it a Paradox rule to shitpost on 4chan generals of their games for at least 1 hour a week and mine memes.

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>tfw pic related appeared on a Huge Atoll world next to your home system

Anyone got any tips for playing Cultists in Endless Legend?

>>179822204
I just noticed there is a face with bleeding eye sockets on that pic

>>179822518
Wut the fug I see it too

>>179822204
that's nothing anon
>be sophons
>search curiosities all over my constellation
>dust nebula right next to my capitol system
>behemoth song on another system right next to me
>both antimatter and palladian in another system, pretty much every system is covered in jadonyx and bluecap mold
>two systems away, garden of eden on a perfect production system
i'm on normal occurrence for resources and anomalies, this start couldn't be better

>>179822518
Fuck you, now I see it too.

It must be like Don't Starve.

>>179819779
What game are you guys even talking about?

>>179824258
Master of Magic you pleb

>>179824258
Master of Magic you scrub

>>179822270
>micromanage your pops every single turn
>keep your hero in the army and search ruins until he hits level 2, then stick him in the capitol and never let him leave; you should be levelling up his FIDS skills and aiming for the "city ignores winter's effects" trait at the top of the common tree
>always parley with minor factions, if you get a really shitty quest out of them bribe them; burning the village down is a last resort, since it doubles the influence cost for converting them
>if you see another faction's borders with your first scouting preachers, WALK AWAY. the last thing you want is for another faction to know you exist while you're vulnerable
>build up a home army as soon as you can to guarantee your safety; fanatics are pretty much just a placeholder frontline if you don't have enough good beefy minor faction units, preachers should be given magewands and paired up with units that have all around high stats, and nameless guard are your DPS core
>assimilation bonuses are IMPORTANT! the three you want most of all are kazanji (+% influence), erycis (+movement speed), and tetikes (+vision range)
>INFLUENCE PRODUCTION IS IMPORTANT! the rate at which you can expand to grab villages, providing you with armies to defend yourself and strike out against rivals, is entirely reliant on your influence production
>RESOURCE TECHS ARE IMPORTANT! your converted villages will leech resources from their home regions, but only if you have the relevant techs for it! this is how cultists get pretty much all of their resources
>if you have shadows, SPYING IS YOUR WORST ENEMY! get security-boosting traits on your hero and research security-boosting buildings; the two worst things that could happen to you outside of a siege are being forced to round up your 60+ population or getting your only city sabotaged!
>if you have tempest, keep in mind that you can convert fomorians, making you one of the better naval factions (still not as good as morgawr, though)

>>179824761
Thanks anon, thats really useful.

>>179824258
Master of Magic you cool guy

>>179824258
Master of Magic, you sexy asshole.

>>179824402
>>179824640
Was a little too young at the time it came out, my first fantasy 4x-ish game was AoW.

>>179824258

Mastery of Nature you beauty

>>179825069
I didn't play it until 2011.
Thought AoW2 was amazing, and assumed MoM would just be an obsolete AoW, but that really wasn't the case.
MoM knocked AoW2 out of my 3x3.
Give it a try when you have time to try a new 4x.

>>179824863
i play a lot of cultists; if you've got everything down pat, it might be worth looking at advanced strategies (I.E. fitting an army with camouflage to instantly raze the opponent's capitol while your converted hordes are engaging their main forces, or using privateer tech to raise hell with the enemy)
just never underestimate how vulnerable you are; spies, hidden armies, and sieges can VERY easily be the death of you, so make sure you get your hands on true sight early (jf you're playing against forgotten or real players, because otherwise AI won't use camo)

>>179825069
The first strategy game I ever played was Dune. The DOS version, who looks like some visual novel.

I have fond memories of it, despite it being linear as hell.
I do remember that if you don't rush to the Harakeen palace as soon as the battle is over, the fortress is turned into a sietch and everyone goes "I have nothing to say" and you can't finish the game.


Then I later learned the game had music and animated travel cutscenes with the ornithopter, while on my version it was silent and you just saw the desert under you.

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Please do not bully the Riftborn.

>>179825262
How do I deal with early game major factions just razing my converted villages?

I haven't played endless legend since the guardians DLC came out, did the game change much since then? if so, which of the new dlcs are any good?

>>179825471
[Bullies Geometrically]

>>179825471
Who the hell mixes circles and angles?

People with shit tastes, that's who!

>>179825536
building up armies early to guard them, or simply expanding towards villages farther from the prying eyes of other players; the greatest early-game tool the cultists have is hiding themselves

fanatics are there purely for the situation where you don't have any actual villages yet: they're cheap frontliners with well-rounded stats that have good synergy with preachers' +10% to all stats buff

if you're running into the situation where the harassment is too bad, remember that you can garrison troops in villages to defend them

Dyson spheres don't give any bonus on ES2?

Are we dying?

>>179828378
nah

>>179828378
Got a good response at the tail end of last thread when I meme'd it up. Just not much to talk about right now.

>>179828378
I certainly am

>>179828378
Some of us faster than others
You're now aware of the inevitable passage of time and your own slowly decaying body

>>179826158
Thanks, so only convert a village if I can protect it?

What's the deal with Ukrainia in Cossacks 3?
>only one infantry unit
>only three cavalry unit
>no XVIIIth century
They may be even worse than the Scottish.

>>179828984

why do you say XVIIIth instead of 18th

>>179829568
That's how it's written in game.

Plus, using Roman numbers is classy.

>>179829639
Any classiness is nullified by saying "Using roman numbers is classy"

>>179829789
Friendly reminder that you're supposed to be at least XVIII (XXI in some states) to be here.
You sound like you're IX.

>>179829973
Well memed

>>179826240
Huh? Suns? Nah they are just anchors. lorewise they are a leftower of Concrete-Virtual Dust wars and all are unslavagable wreks that would require more effort than a civilisation at your level can pull off.

>>179828983
not so much that as it is "only convert a village if i'm confident it won't be immediately burned down"

if you're drowning in influence or you're converting villages far from danger, there's no real downside to converting villages past the point where you can reliably protect them
even when you're close to other empires that you're at peace with or that aren't aggressive early on, it could be worthwhile to convert villages near them (though that is always risky)

as a rule, try to keep your villages separated from other factions by at least one region

>>179829973
Why did you say XVIII instead of XVIIIth, you classy retard?

>>179830065
You sound upset, mVIII.

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>>179830247

>>179828378
>ES2 and Stellaris are the most-discussed game in here

We're definitely dying if that shit is all we have to talk about

>>179828378
We're one of the faster threads on /vg/, if you want to see a dying thread have a look at /ksg/

>>179828809
Trust me I was aware of that for a long time...

>>179830424
Well, I'd like to talk about Cossacks, Supreme Commander, Seven Kingdoms 2, but if I'm all alone, it's not that fun.

And since I never play online, I can't even give strategic advice.

>>179830505
Dying has become a meme. It doesn't really mattter how much posts there are, even if we were discarding half a dozen threads a day, we would still be dying.

Such is the power of Kek.

>>179830674
It happens to every general that experiences a surge of population. People who arrived in the surge and only post in faster threads aren't used to threads slowing down and sometimes even hitting page 8.

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Hey friends!

I installed the New Dawn mod for DWU. Is it normal that it crashes all the time?

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Can someone, please, explain how do vines of the Unfallen work? I will eventually get to playing them, but I like most other races more, and would like to know how to stop them for now

>>179831350

>picks the worst ftl type
>blames somebody else

>>179832039
just don't make peace with them, then they can't vine your shit

>>179831582
Have you checked the crash log?
Have you installed it properly?
Have you restarted your computer?

>>179832039
Blow up their fucking vineships. Problem solved.

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>>179832181
I'm talking more about dealing with them in Neutral areas, not defending against a direct attack or something like that

>>179832039
Do not go to peace with them. Either stay in cold/hot war or get into a proper alliance.
If you're allied with them the vines offer nothing but benefits.

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>>179832364
That can be done when you have a choke point to monitor, but often if you want to contain them you would need enough ships that you can conquer them.

That doesn't really sound like a viable defensive strategy against them.

>>179832631
The only proper way to deal with them is either total destruction or an alliance.
Half measures just result in them stealing systems once you're distracted.

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>start off a game
>surrounded by Empire, Carvers, and Horatio
WELP
At least I have plenty of essence to harvest

>>179832584
You all seem to be misunderstanding me. I guess I'm explaining poorly. I can deal with them when they are close to my border, but how do I play containment games with them. How do I prevent their expansion in advance. With most races you can blockade the colony. With vodyani you can just blow up the ark. Sure killing vineships helps, put sooner or later one will get trough and establish a vine. How do I rid of it if it's not linked to a colony on my side?

>>179832756
Galactic weed-killer when

>>179832925
>carvers
Fucking STOP

>>179832240
Hey Anon, thanks for replying!

>Have you checked the crash log?
No.
>Have you installed it properly?
Yes.
>Have you restarted your computer?
No.

Thanks for the feedback!

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how the fuck is this pop bonus balanced

>>179832925
its fucking cravers

cRAvers

>>179833068
Weird. I don't know much about mods, but try to check wherever you got it if someone else had issues.

How long does forced migration happen and where will these fucks go if I have no planet to put them in? Will they become refugees?

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>>179832925
Start with horatios, their early game is shit.

>>179832756
That's nice if you can afford a war. But sometimes you can't - not enough manpower, another enemy of higher danger, etc,etc. In that case with most races I can apply half measures because I know how they work and what are their weak spots.

With unfallen I haven't got a clue.

>>179833334
their vine system is like a tree

if you cut off the root, the whole thing dies

>>179833260

it can take for-fucking-ever and they go to another empire who has

>a1.) they have refugees set to "refugees welcome"
>a2.) you have a migration treaty with them
>b.) they have refugees set to "refugees welcome" and have a planet the refugees can inhabit

>>179833698
That's way too many restrictions. Why can't they be like Germany and open their borders? I don't want these useless meatbags in my core planets.

>>179833486
How do you unvine systems ? There is a trophy for that but I'm not sure, I remember taking some of their systems in one game but it did nothing

>>179833917
You have to cut it off from the source
Interrupt the connection somewhere by taking a system in the middle

>>179834170
How far does it go ? Say like I take one of their systems and there are two other systems down the way ? Do they lose them ?

Is there a way to finish an ES2 game without having a full militarist senate? Fishtits sent everything she had on me. I've not even finished building my fleet and it's already 50% militarists in the polls. By the time it ends I'll be face deep in militarists. I'd like to try other laws than "cheaper fleets" for once.

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I do love the Endless space 2 sometimes.

>>179834170
What happens if I nuke their homeworld?

>>179834471
Politics guide is in the OP it's not perfect but it will help you understand what's happening and what you can do about it.

>>179834472
Can you rename systems in Endless Space 2?

>>179834630
yeah

>>179832101

>warp
>worst

Make corridors to scout ahead in the early game and see how much you spend in WM stations faggot. Hyperspace though sucks hard but thats Wiz's fault.

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>>179834630

>>179817724

Try it for yourself so you get an idea of how much of a shitty game ES2 is.

>not even Wiz here. He truly is a faggot.

>>179834471
Ignore war altogether. Instead of building fleets to defend yourself, accept both tribute and diplomatic pressure demands (they're tiny anyways). Accepting them gives the Happy opinion modifier to AI and it's easy to sue for peace and make them Cordial afterwards. Even bribing Cravers to fuck off after they've already declared war is hilariously easy since the AI overvalues strategic and luxury resources even if it could just take all your systems.

Alternatively if you really need to wage war there's always Dictatorship where you can just choose the ruling party, or election actions in Federation and Republic. Both United Empire and Lumeris get an additional boost to their starting government types' election actions (the one that applies a penalty to everything but the chosen party is ridiculously powerful), making it easier to control militarist growth.

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Well, fuck me sideways. What do?

What are some good minor factions to start with?

Kind of annoying they don't list the bonuses when you are making a custom faction.

>>179835693
deus vult

>>179835693

remake

>>179835774

>The small guys who look like the short synth aliens but with more guns and red eyes, the faction.

>>179831582
I had to take out all of the race specific events, something there causes the crash

>>179835850
Tried that. Didn't work out.
>>179835863
Yeah, pretty much. No essence early game is a nughtmire.

>>179835693
I'd say remake simply because you've already won.

>>179835693
rush another ark and start munching on their homeworlds one at a time

Is there a tier list of how useful each endless legend minor faction unit is?

>>179830424

People discuss stellaris and some alpha game with cinematic battles.

>it's a Kalgeros infesting your new colony episode

>>179836004

it's not just the essence, your early game is stifled by having to make ships that won't be able to safely leech and you won't be able to afford to move your ark cause of dust. there's nowhere to anchor so you'd run out of dust before finding anywhere.

>>179836116
Stellaris is pre-alpha

>>179836267

ES2 should be a concept diagram then.

>>179835589
>>179834612

Thanks for the advices, guys

You mean it's really more efficient to give tribute before negociating for peace than just starting negociations?

I never really understood this tribute mechanic (except that if you don't give something to Vodyani you're in for fun times)

>>179831350
>get cool unique start up
>get mad at the developer
was neat seeing someone play with wormhole like 10 months ago, he stuck to it and managed to escape when he got his wormhole upgrade

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>x61.38 Inflation

>>179833083
>Not complaining about adept workers

Cmun step it up this may seem good on paper but you're paying 15 points to get 'something of everything'
A giant food or science bonus would be much better off for most, adept workers is by far the best bonus for your population you can get

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What the fuck Canada, get out of my fucking home system

>>179834768
Wormholes are really only good for defensive play, they benefit slower starting economies (militarist, megacorporation).
They used to be super good but got nerfed into the ground. Would be nice if you could jump between Wormholed systems without them needing to be contiguous, to save on the upkeep of Wormhole Stations in stretches of useless space

>>179837731

They werent nerfed that bad. Its just that Warp became OP as fuck (more speed and ships returning fire while on cooldown) while hyperspace got nerfed so hard it got scratched out completely.

>>179838143
Warp isn't that OP, it's just the best all-rounder. It still hits hard when you've got to jump a Fleet across space and the total Cooldown time adda up to over a Year.
Can't say anything about Hyperlanes, but Warp is best early game and Wormholes best late-game, not including Jump Drives or Psionics.

If you have the autism to get Wormholes spaced correctly you basically have Sanic Warp Speed.

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uhhh

>>179839101

You can kill it and either harvest it or take control of it. With your military stregnth two of your fleets will be fine, around 22-25k is required to kkill it.

>http://imgur.com/a/O7Fpw

Whats the point of having different hull types (with different number of slots) going for the same fucking price?

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Should I even keep playing?

>>179842436
>that Balkanization
Keep going, War in Heaven/Prethoryn will mop up the weaker species.
Alternatively, Federate EVERYTHING

In Endless Space 2, someone explain protector ships to me.
I had two of them in a flotilla, yet I watched as fucking shit Sophon beam ships just melted everything else instead of them.

>>179842743
I was about to ask the same thing. How exactly does ship firing prioritization work in ES2? Bar flotillas where the ships will obviously fire in the opposite flotilla first. I know there's both certain classes focus firing other classes, but also "increased chance to be targeted" support modules.

Is everything % chance of picking certain ships? Or is it strict where the ships will *always* focus down the classes they're supposed to attack first and the said module only takes effect if there's two or more similar hull type ships in target priority list in the same opposing flotilla?

I'm wondering how good it'd be to have one big protector ship focused on tanking for each flotilla and just shittons of of squishy attacker ships with weapon and support modules (for DMG and CRIT bonuses).

>>179842591
Im taking overlord route

But good fucking lord
The federations in that map are huge, 20 members or more

Shit will get cash if I ever see a federation war

The biggest challenge in this campaign so far is not biting more than I can chew since all those fuckers got defensive pacts with 1+ faction

>>179843140
How exactly did you end up with that many balkanized states? Multiple Liberation wars? Because usually one Federation Builder AI will get all the colonizers Federated and go full FUCK SLAVE DESPOTS LMAO and since they don't have the tendency to group up and snowball, unless the Player is leading them the Xenophobes and Authoritarians get picked off one by one.

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DUDE

>>179843448

No idea

The year is 2280ish if you are wondering, no idea if things will get less balkanized as the game goes on
I don't see much factions getting wiped out, I think only about 15 got it

But afaik there are 2 big ass federations (one where I am and one on the opposite side)

If I had to guess, I would say that its because of all the defensive pacts going on

too many natos around for feds to steamroll
And some weak ones with 2-5 members

>>179844150
What were your start conditions?

>>179844353

No adv starts, so that gotta be it

>>179844497
Standard 12 starting empires?
I don't even see how you got that level of system coverage by 2290.
Did you turn down Habitable Planets %? That tends to cause clustering in my game, and would contribute to balkanization through Liberation Wars pretty significantly.

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>>179842743
>>179843057

First and foremost. Range is key. Not sure if you are using flotila in a sense of fleet or in a sense of battlegroup.

If fleet, than they were probably just out of range due to positioning. If battle group - that's weird need details.

In short:
Ships always target their direct opponent flotilla first.
Ships will only hit things they can reach.
Targeting priority has element of chance that can be altered with support modules.I don't know exact numbers.
Swords hit shields, than swords, than carriers.
Shields hit swords, than shields, than carriers.
Carriers are irrelevant. Aka I don't remember but I think they behave like swords

>I'm wondering how good it'd be to have one big protector ship focused on tanking for each flotilla and just shittons of of squishy attacker ships with weapon and support modules (for DMG and CRIT bonuses).
Don't quote me on this but from expirience, if there is something that can be easily blown up, such as a patrol ship in an attacker swarm, It WILL be blown up. This is based on anecdote evidence, take with salt.

>trillion
>tri
>4 batches of 3 zeros

>>179844741

120 AI empires
0 adv starts
40 max fallen empires
1x habitable worlds
Normal agressiveness
Normal difficulty
Empire placement random

>>179822204
>signal from tolva

>>179845405
>120 AI empires
Nigger what the fuck

>>179845776
>=×=stack overflow at line:8089=×=

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>>179845776
Im rushing to erase as many empires as I can from the map before the game crashes

>>179845405

Fuck I want this , 1,6 made my trash can not be able to run games without the timer getting frozen from time to time resulting in a single corvette ( 60 days )being built in two real life minutes at FASTEST speed

>>179844910
the game uses Flotilla to refer to what you're calling battlegroups.

In this case I had one Tool ship in each flotilla, meaning that they should be the prime target, but instead the enemy ships targeted my Imposer.

The only thing I could think of is maybe it was an enemy carrier? I think it says that it's priority is enemy carriers, and then attack craft? But this was pretty early in the game.

>>179848257
I think the real reason is beams.
If enough beam ships make it into range then it's not really going to matter what they target anyway, everything is going to die.

>>179848570
That was the other thing. That battle was also where I realized that you can see enemy ship's range efficiency.

And since right now the Sophon's seem to be going all in on beams, I've just been making long range craft.

>>179816795
>making ships fucking ever

>>179837564
>Frozen
Checks out

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>Craver hero
>Senator for the pacifist party

>>179850758
Peace through War

>>179851337
What did he mean by this?

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>>179850758
>be playing cravers
>get kren solitus as a choose-able hero later on

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So what game would you fellas say is the best 4X experience, overall? I've never really explored (hah) this genre much, but I've always been meaning to try it, because I like the idea of every game being different.

I don't mind dated graphics at all. Type of setting doesn't matter either. I'm also very much open to mods and stuff.

Does it boil down to quality of the AI? I've seen Let's Plays of Civ 6 and the AI seems pretty terrible, even at the highest difficulty. Any games where they aren't completely pants-on-head retarded?

is it just me or are the Vodyani a little bit perfect?

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>>179852258
I had a lot of fun with Deadlock 2.

>>179852510
>can't infinitely expand, or hit manpower cap so fast that you can't even chain gang your pops
>can't strip-mine worlds so intensely that the planets turn into barren husks
>can't gene-mod themselves into the ultimate lifeform
i dunno, anon

>>179852258
Imo Master of Magic gives the best 4x experience.
I think that the insecticide patch has some AI improvements, I tried it for the first time around christmas. I didn't play back to back with unmodded games though so not entirely sure.

Often in 4x games you can learn tactics or tricks that help you play around the AI of the game, so you don't really face it head on.
Examples could be exploits like the selling a world to a isolationist FE in stellaris in a few patches pack, or back in 1.2 I had a corvette go back and forth between two systems, so the AI sent their fleet to attack the corvette, then when my corvette left the system, they went back the other way to take care of something else, then that went on repeat while I took their allies worlds with my main fleet.
I think some ship designs in stellaris have also made the AI a non issue in some versions, like tachyon destroyers and tachyon battleships in one update, naked corvette spam now.
In other games like civ5 and civ6 if you have a good tactical mind you can abuse the AI in combat by never losing troops and destroying all its armies in chokepoints, while in civ4 you could get a doomstack going that they couldn't beat.
Civ2 AI isn't better, but it doesn't get trapped in the same way due to there being no 1upt, and no doomstack that it can't beat. It still can get lured, for example I've put a battleship on the same tile as 4 AEGIS cruisers, the AI hates battleships and sends Cruise MIssiles at them, the problem is that when the cruise missile attack into the tile with the battleship, it fights the strongest unit in that tile, which is one of the AEGIS cruisers which get combat bonuses vs cruise missiles. I've seen the AI send 30+ cruise missiles in a single turn. The next turn I just moved my ships in and repaired them for no cost.

>>179816795
>clusterfuck the picture

>>179852258
>explored (hah)
had a cheeky giggle to that one mate

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>>179854613
I once made a really neat OP but it was only used once.

>>179854892
I'd be throwing rocks at the Wales dragon too.

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Alright Stelaris bros: fave Ethos with and without mods go; I'm really curious what other people like to play


>Vanilla: Fanatic Materialist, Pacifist

>Mods: N/A (What I'm here to see ideas on)

>>179855498
Vanilla: Fanatic Materialist Egalitarian

>>179855498
uninstall.exe

>>179855498
>Vanilla
Pacifist, Xenophobe, Spiritualist I guess

>>179854613
It's important to learn your counters

>>179855192
>somehow HE'S the bad guy

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why are these sluts always xenophiles

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>have 120 pikemen
>rolls on the enemy base
>walks too close to a mine
>it explodes
>instantly lose one third of my army
I don't appreciate the irony of mines being so explosives.

Also, they changed how the king's muskeeter work now. They can now be upgraded a bit, and don't deal 100 damage per hit.

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>>179857915

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It never gets old

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>>179862549
doing god's work, anon

How good are hangar slots?
Just strike craft for pd and some dmg vs corvettes?

I noticed that precog computers have +tracking for battleships, but not for cruisers, so was curious if you could build a battleship based around medium/small slots and hangars against corvettes.

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>>179862549
Good shit.

>>179863567
Strike Craft are only good for PD. But even then You'd probably be better just adding some Flak Cruisers to your fleet instead.

>>179863780
>Strike Craft are only good for PD
I guess 7M Autocannons/flak or whatever, 1S autocannon and then the H slot for a strike craft as PD. 1L kinetic battery.
More tracking than a cruiser, the loss of evasion doesn't matter against the corvettes, more health.

Or maybe broadside core to get rid of the hangar and just go with a few more L slots, and the medum slots on flak.

all right /civ4xg/
playing as cravers, sieging the sophon homeworld and their biggest colony (already overran the united empire), no problems there

the issue i'm having: do i keep their giant population (they've got like 10 colonies, each with decent population) as utterly broken, overworked slaves for the insane technology cost reduction while they watch me turn their worlds to barren husks, or do i reduce them all to nutrient paste for being sophons?

Why do some people think armor counters small slots?
Just looked at the armor formula and it doesn't imply that.

>>179864667
Don't go by principles, Cravers don't care about principles.
Cravers care about two things: food and blood. If one option of the two is better at supplying both, then the answer is obvious.

>>179864548
Strike Craft are never really worth it compared to just plastering Flak on the ship. Autocannons can be replaced with Plasma to kill Corvettes and shred anything coming in close.

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New ES2 comic, this time for UE.
https://wiki.endless-space.com/comics/united-empire

Anyone got a flowchart of Ascension Perks, or just a breakdown of which ones are actually valuable?

>>179865825
>Strike Craft are never really worth it compared to just plastering Flak on the ship.
That doesn't really matter, it's that the section with the most medium slots comes with a H slot, so the issue was what could be done with it, not if it can be replaced with a Flak, which it can't since they occupy different slots.

>>179837262
adept workers is pretty amazing too, but my point is that the balancing for these things is way off

like imagine playing UE with +2 FIDSI instead of a shitty +1 influence

and it only costs 10 more population points, which is fucking nothing

How do I git gud at civ 6? I can do pretty well against ai until immortal, but still win. Deity though? They have 10 unit militaries with walled cities at turn 20 when I'm playing online speed. I have no idea how to approach this

>>179860426
What game? Don't see it in the OP, looks like an Age of Empires-esque game?

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>>179867165
>Bothering with Civ 6 at all.

>>179866331
just pick whatever dude

>>179867215
Cossacks 3.
A sequel to Cossacks 1, with nearly identical graphisms, except they're in 3D.
And a fuckload of new stuff, and less bugs.

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>>179866331
here's my uninformed opinion

>>179867634
thanks my dude

Any input on why not Synths? I know they supposedly buffed them, is it still because of the difficulty integrating new Species into the Synth species (or the irrelevance of doing such?)

>>179869401
ah right they've been buff, I guess it goes up to either
I'd probably stay cyborg anyway because of memes lad

>>179862549
don't bully the ayy lmaos

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Anyone have an idea on how much range translates into time lost by not firing?
Say if you have a 60 range cannon, and it fires ones a day, how many times does it fire until your 40 range cannon starts firing.
In stellaris.

>>179869709
>bully
Nigga they dead

>>179869973
bdsm gone too far

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>>179869943

Is there any reason at all for me to not use 22 small attack ships in Endless Space 2?

>>179870541
because you would like your fleet to go faster than 2 moves a turn

>>179866060
dam thats cold near the end.

Anyone know what kind of mod would cause random leaders to be recruited for everyone on Stellaris?
fuck this bug

>>179870847
You're right, I should use 22 defensive ships.

So what's the final verdict of Endless Space 2?
I HATED the first game but LOVED Endless Legend.

I played one game as the Cravers. I won one battle and then steamrolled with how powerful having a high level hero was over your opponent.
Never in any other 4X game had I gotten to the monotonous psuedo-employment stage of pressing end turn as fast as possible.
The aesthetic is nice, I just couldn't find it within myself to give a single fuck about what was going on.
There's no dramatic quests or terrible threat(beyond AI handicaps), the planets look great but they don't really matter.

Is ES2 half as good as EL?

>>179873310
No.

>>179873310
>Is ES2 half as good as EL?
It''s a good engaging game with one too many bugs to call it finished product.

>>179848257
>In this case I had one Tool ship in each flotilla, meaning that they should be the prime target
Not if the enemy has beams installed on support ships of his own.

>>179852258
Endless Legend.

>>179870541
Barrage Fire tactic.

>>179873310
While factions are interesting aesthetics are nice, there are huge chunks of the game that are missing or don't hold a candle to EL's counterparts.
Also ai seems to struggle really hard with laned movement, every war turns into retreat fiesta.

>>179874223
>Barrage Fire

Is it good? Feels like suicide to not use shield/turtle.

>>179874437
>he fell for the turtle meme

>>179873361
>>179873793
>>179874336
Fair enough, I'll be waiting for a sale(probably longer than the summer sale in a couple of weeks) and try it out one day I guess.

Cravers as I've heard they exist in the second game annoy me as well.

I fucking adore the Necrophage quest in Endless Legend more than any other and while I understand Endless Legend is supposed to reference but not make direct contact with the Endless Space stuff, but comparing the trials of a single light of inquisitive sapience in a pit of instinct as it comes to understand and accept its own existence, promising to survive and excel at their intended task far and above what their selfish creators desired, to the point that they can feel nothing but regret: Is a little bit better than we wuz weapons n' sheeeit.

>>179874537
It's a good meme

>>179874683
>Is a little bit better than we wuz weapons n' sheeeit
It's a matter of taste. I find a sapient race that is very much avare of it's purpose and design, embracing it quite interesting. Their quest in ES2 also offers you a few fun options of developing the story line.

>>179874683
Why don't you just get an "extended trial"?

>>179874437
it is a good tactic if your opponent is swarming. Also a good placeholder tactic if you are using Missile or Laser heavy fleets.

>>179874968
Yeah I'm not adverse to the fact, I just adore how the Necrophage leader comes to that realization and accepts it part way through. It feels like a deep and difficult decision and it has that dichotomy of being both able and unable to empathize with.

It's more about how a tool feels being a tool.

From what I've caught of the Cravers in Endless Space 2 it's just a tool thinking about tool stuff, and whether or not it'd fit their design to consume even their former masters and shit.

The Necrophages do embrace it, it just feels like an interesting decision with reasons for it, where the Cravers it's just a foregone conclusion.

>>179875043
I dunno man, I haven't pirated any vidya in quite awhile. I fucking can't bring myself to play much these days. I'm probably depressed or some shit. The most I can bother is something like Day of Infamy so that my team can win and I'll be on top of the scoreboard and I'll feel content for a bit.

I'll still play shit, like I spent eight hours playing Starsector into the night yesterday. It's just the starting the game up part that is hard. That's why I asked about Endless Space 2, if it'll grab me as quickly as Endless Legend.
I say I'll buy it when it's on sale later on because there will be more time for the game to be polished and because I don't lack the money to buy. Most of the piracy I've done in the past was when I couldn't buy something, or I REALLY hate the publishers.

>>179875469
Without spoiling too much. You get a chance to revive a virtual endless. Than you get a decision to make about how to react to it's orders.

>>179875608
I've been exposed to that spoiler here already, don't worry, that is what I was referring to with the third line of my post. Though I only know it happens, not how well they communicate the Cravers actually making the decision.

>>179875728
More importantly Cravers aren't the only race present in ES2. For example Riftborn quest, file fairly straightforward narratively, goes to great lengths to show how alien everything is to them

>>179875897
Yeah for sure, they interest me as well. I don't mean to say I'd only play Cravers, just that I feel the Necrophage/Craver difference is typical of the quality difference between Endless Legend and Endless Space I expect.

>>179876010
ES1 was an attempt to create a 4x by fairly new and inexperienced studio. If they were to start with EL and than make ES, I suspect your opinion would be exact opposite. Judging a game based on it's predecessor is a bit of a fool''s errand. Especially so given that true predecessor to ES2 is not ES but EL. It takes a lot, and I do mean a lot, of lessons from it and adds new interesting features on top of them, like politics and tactics. Tactics by the way, and combat in general, have as much to do with ES1 as they do with any other space 4x. That is to say jack and shit. They are kinda brilliant in that they provide a way to let player have meaningful control of the battle, but without making him do it step by step.

The game is definitely pushed out under cooked tho, but that's mostly in the bugs department. It's feature set is pretty impressive otherwise.

>>179876305
Yeah for sure, I understand the reason for Endless Space's failings and the second game SHOULD be really well done after they made Endless Legend of all things.

I think another reason I dislike 4X through Endless Space's lens is that you don't see anything of a faction beyond the diplomacy screen sprite, and the ships. Whereas in Endless Legend you see their growing cities and their people in general and in combat. It feels so much more in depth. That is a failing of the genre more so than of a game though.

>>179876595
Matter of taste. For me when it comes to immersion as it pertains to interesting races in strategy games the key point is not visuals but unique techs that reflect the races charachter. That's why despite barely having any story at all I think SotS has brilliantly unique and diverse factions. And on that score ES2 delivers. Tho Amplitude's rather peculiar sense of humour, is as ever on display.

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I finally saw what was beyond the mirror. It was beautiful

>>179878665
B A L D

>>179878914
Hair are ugly

>>179879080
>you will never see a Horatio rock an afro

>>179817112
>What's the best ascension path?
Master of Nature
Border Range
Then whatever.

That's if you aren't going for one of the specialist paths.

>>179820259
>Quick Stellaris question: can I vassalize a faction if the war score cost is over 100? I notice when I hit 100 war score I can force my demands on them and it says 1000/Force Demands so I'm curious if that really is the limit.

Vassalisation is set when you declare war, as a wargoal.

You can't set a wargoal if it would require over 100 war score.

Large empires usually require over 100 warscore to vassalise.

Unless you've set the vassalisation wargoal when you declare war, you can't vassalise them regardless of what happens during the war.

>>179867634
What's wrong with Mastery of Nature?

You save a ton of minerals and you don't need to research all of those techs.

>>179879460
i don't understand

why can't you aim your big space gun at them and say "you're my vassal now"

>>179817561
WE

>>179879289
>Master of Nature
That one seems really fucking lame, even compared to the research boost.

>>179839101
Use neutron torpedo/kinetic arty and plasma to kill it, then repair it and get a sweet 5k FP dreadnought

>>179879793
It basically translates to 2000 free society research and 10k free energy and minerals over an extended period depending on how well your research and economy are generally going anyway.

It's actually better than a lot of them, I hate the concept of just discounting part of the game so I don't take it.

>>179879574
Poor man's arbitrary version of casus belli system of their previous games.

>>179879574
Because diplomacy and war are trash in Stellaris.
Even fanatics that just want to purge every alien and space locusts that mindlessly devour entire world have to adhere to the shitty warscore system.

>>179860426
>tfw you realized mortar storm incoming

>>179867634
Galactic Force Projection is nice on small maps

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How many ways can Vodyani faction quest end, two or three?

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>space tree has like 4 empty systems beside him that he could settle
>instead he makes a path to one of my systems and starts "peacefully" converting it

why are you always like this

>>179882815
That sounds like a 1.0.52 bug

>>179879574

If they are too weak you might just pull it off. It would be too easy otherwise. Sometimes they even offer themselves as a protectorate if they are not that angry at you.

Vassalization is more harsh than tributaries and protectorates because the vassal cannot expand or engage in diplomacy by itself.

>>179855498

No mods, fanatic militarist/authoritarian. What else?

how the fuck do I vodyani?

>>179883962
still figuring it out myself. it's pretty godawful considering I play low minor civs/low resource abundance, but I don't want to tailor the game settings just because it's hard.

>>179883962
PRAISE TO THE VIRTUAL ENDLESS

>>179883962
Rushing a first ark and parking it in an other faction's home system works very well. Then you build nothing but leeches and start vampiring everything, which will allow you to start expanding

>>179882815
If you get full butt buddies with the Unfallen they don't convert your systems despite entwining them and you can freely enjoy the benefits. The percentage does rise, but what it does in practice is only reducing the cost of the influence buyout, and the "natural" conversion happens automatically to everyone when their systems are under another empire's influence zone and they have the right tech. However it never automatically does the last push to full conversion unless you have the end tier religious law active which makes it automatic.

>>179883962
From the lower tech tree, research the Ark module that gives flat industry bonus and additional % industry. Fill all your arks with nothing but them on support slots.
Pump out leechers (you might want to swap leech modules with one or two speed modules) and remove leecher modules from your actual battle ships that fight and protect leecher ships.
Retrofit your arks as needed: when you want to move them lots of speed modules, when you actually use them as systems have lots of industry modules.
You might want to use your second ark as a battle ship to protect leechers: park it on top of minor faction or even major empire's system, because it's pretty much indestructible in early game.
There's literally no limit to how much you can leech from one system, so once you find a good system to leech you can spam it with leech ships.

>>179883962
Turn one replace science and dust modules.If you have 3 planets that you can get techs for in home system or nearby than replace them with an essence generating modules. If only two than industry ones. Than build boats. Gather essence build more boats. When you get industry buildings worth building than build them, after that, back to boats. Do this untill you have 3 arks with 2 pops each. Than start playing like a normal faction. Pick related is my pirate hunter of preference for very early game. Replace it with Gouge asap.

>>179884273

It can be fun when it pays off, or it can end your run.

>>179884518
>it can end your run
How ? You only need a minor civ not too far to get that first ark, and then there is nothing an other faction except maybe cravers can do against it in early game. You can get it in 10 turns

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>>179884518
forgot the "pick"

>>179884440
So the "conversion" is basically toothless if we're friends? Until he gets that end-game tech that is. That's good to know

At least I won't have to kill him every time he's beside me now.

>>179884645
I described just one such ended run here.>>179818293
All you need for that to happen is a player ready to counter you or a particulary war minded AI like carvers riftborn or imperials picking the right strategy/tactics. Arks are good on paper but they are very much paper tigers when it comes to combat.They die to a well designed 7 ship fleet.

>>179884440
>There's literally no limit to how much you can leech from one system
You mean in quantity per turn, right ? Because when pop hits 0 it's over

>>179884762
>They die to a well designed 7 ship fleet
Yeah maybe I haven't played enough but you really need a good start to have a 7 ship fleet ready at turn 25

>>179884892
Not really. It depends on a faction. Some, like the vodyani themselves would struggle to get one. Others do so easily. All you need is a couple system with 1-2 temperate or furtile planets in them. And you are set.

I am not saying that Ark rushes are a bad strategy. Just that it's an all in. You either get amazing benefits or you get fucked.

>>179884664
>So the "conversion" is basically toothless if we're friends? Until he gets that end-game tech that is. That's good to know
Yeah, the vines actually give you beneficial bonuses and are good provided you decide to stay in good terms with them. However for the purpose of conversion you've probably already seen that the Unfallen don't generate influence bubbles, but all entwined systems are considered under their "bubble". The actual conversion ability has to be unlocked from left side tech tree, and even if they do unlock it and you'll see the conversion % on your systems rising, if you're allied with them and they'll like you enough they're not going to try to fuck you over because the actual system buyout that finally converts the system requires conscious action on the part of the converter: either spending influence to "buy" the system or having a certain religious law active that makes it free and automatic.

This of course mostly applies to Unfallen AI that doesn't like to betray, against actual human player Unfallen people would probably be too paranoid to trust them.

>he fell for the vodyani meme

anyone got a link to the new ES2 patch

How to expand empire and economy in the first 10 years or so?

>>179886464
Stellaris. I'm a derp

>>179886464
>>179886537
colonise, build mines and power plants

>>179867634
>Mastery of Nature in don't pile.

What did he mean by this?

>>179879793
>That one seems really fucking lame, even compared to the research boost.

Tile blockers are the worst.

Having to research tile blocker removal is suicide tier.

Having to pay to remove tile blockers is a huge drain in the early game.

The more planets you colonise the better it gets.

>>179886750
>colonise, build mines and power plants

This is pretty much it.

If you're having trouble with the game then use empire:
* Authoritarian & Xenophobic
* Caste System on everyone.
* Extremely Adaptive & Strong
* Mining & Slavery Guilds
* Kinetic weapons & hyperspace (so you don't get screwed by Warp limitations or get your wormhole stations killed)

Focus on surveying planets above everything, and expand hard from the outset.

Just keep an eye on your neighbours and try to keep your fleet as big as possible (literally just basic kinetic corvettes) as much as your energy can support.

>>179886750
This covers the technical "how do I get more minerals and energy" but does nothing for aiding me in making any decisions about say, extra science vessel or earlier colony ship at the start, actually choosing which planets to colonize, how much to develop a planet before saving for the next colonization, etc.

It also doesn't give me any semi-generic detail/goals for evaluating how well I am doing at expanding.

>>179887148
[Authoritarian] - Slavery Guilds
Extremely Adaptive - Decadent - (whatever the fuck migration time/cost one is?) seem really strong overall.

Materialist and spiritualist spectrum is the only axis I'm really conflicted about. Pacifist 1 seems quite good while either militarist option is difficult to replace.

>>179886464

The very first step is to grab the mining stations. Build also energy ones as necessary while ignoring research (those cost you energy and are not that useful in the beginning).

Build a forward outpost if you have to, should a cluster be rich in minerals. Apart from that is colonize and conquer.

>>179887714

Materialist is only really useful if you either pick mechanist of technocracy. Militarist is always useful though.

>>179887917

>*mechanist or technocracy

>>179887714
You can't really set goals for expanding in my opinion. The 'goal' I usually set for myself is to establish and maintain martial superiority, so that I can enforce my weaker economy by taking planets from other. Generally speaking, if you're going for the 'true wide', get every planet with a yellow habitability and at least 15 tiles; otherwise, go for bigger than 18. Should a planet be green, go for it immediately. I always have 3-4 science ships up ASAP, because surveying is vital to everything.

As for Ethics, Militarist trumps almost everything and is useful in every situation. The main point is between Spiritualist and Materialist, as going either locks down an Ascension Path. Spiritualists cannot build Robots and therefore cannot use the Synthetic Ascension. Materialists cannot get the Psionic Theory technology, and therefore cannot use the Psionic Ascension. You should factor this in if you've already decided on an Ascension Path.

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>oh please protect us senpai we are so weak
>alright
>YOU FUCKER, YOU THINK YOU'RE SO TOUGH. YOU'LL RUE THIS DECISION SOMEDAY.
Kouhai pls.

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>>179867165
>Still playing that pile of shit
>not waiting 2 years and coming back to it
lmao

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What's a good way to start with UE in ES2 ? I did one game but I was lucky and no one fucked with me before turn 70, and I had all time to turtle and raise production and influence. Only won because I was in an alliance with the mega sophonity tho

>>179887714
the first thing I build is a second science ship, literally before I unpause the game. Prioritise mining stations, dont worry about research station yet, and only build energy stations when you require them, ie at zero energy. Don't upgrade any building to tier 2 for quite a while, the extra minerals/energy isn't worth it compared to another tier 1 mine/plant, and don't waste minerals building stuff if you haven't got the pops to work them. This is basic very early game stuff.

>how well I am doing at expanding.
check the galaxy/empire screen that lists all empires, if you're equivalent or better, you're doing well.

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>dude just let our pilgrims to their holy place on your world
>kay whatever
>they bomb my administration and kill a pop
>nigger ain't even denying that they sent the terrorists
I WAS A FOOL TO TRUST SPIRITUALISTS
READY THE FLEETS
BOOT UP THE CLONE VATS
NOW THEIR WORLDS SHALL BURN

>>179888910
What mod is this?

>>179888910
>trusting religiousfags

Its your own damn fault.

>>179889028
More events mod

>>179888813
Research:
Xenobiology->Colonisation as needed->plasma Metallurgy-> Planetary Landscaping

Production:
Xenoindustrial Infrastructure -> Colonise all available planets in capital -> Public Private Partnerships -> Scouts and colonisers as needed->Farms->Industry->the rest

Laws:
Most people swear by "Toys for boys" but I'm a mega tax man. Don't think it's worth switching out even for misers.

Influence:
Dump it into minors Asap.

Scouting:
Prioritise anomalies they can have enourmous payoffs.

>>179888813
Spread man's dominion to the stars and protect your claim with great fleets.

>>179889131
Alright nice, thanks anon

Should I settle the 22 slot with -25% minerals right next to my starting system or the 19 slot that's further away, grabs more land but has no modifiers? I'm leaning towards #2. Commonwealth of Man, by the way.

So, no Civ VI announcements during E3.
Is the game dead already?

>>179888910
GAS THE SPIRITUALISTS ETHOS WAR NOW

>>179889674
Both.

>>179889674
why not both

>>179888910

Started a new game with advanced zealots right on the side of my backyard. So much for early expansion. Allied myself with a normal faction of similar ethos and working on a defensive alliance with some advanced democratic crusader while expanding passively.

Religious fags are the cancer. Every fucking time...

>>179889674

Depends on the minerals of the cluster.

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>>179890747
>start as a materialist
>surrounded by zealots
>start as a spiritualist
>materialists EVERYWHERE
>start as xenophile/pacifist
>neigbor is a fanatic purifier
>play as a decadent slaver empire
>first guy I meet is a democratic crusader
Getting really fucking tired of Paradox bullshit spawn bias.

>>179891226
source your reaction image for me my man

>>179891226

Democratic crusaders are super common by whatever fucking reasons. They are only hard to deal with if you are either a dictatorship or you have imperial authority.

>>179891226

>start as fanatic purifiers
>or anything militaristic
>federation builders everywhere
>galactic power bloc by 2230

>>179891279
Witch Craft Works.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/281990/announcements/detail/2221812448259023576

=)

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>>179892538
pic related

>>179892538
>>179892578
Wow, Paradox admitting they fucked up big time?

>>179892669

How much you wanna bet it'll somehow break something else?

>>179892840
Games are like a house of cards. If you touch something, it's bound to crash down.

>>179892910

For this dev team, they don't even have to touch it.

>>179892578
Who the hell is Jamor? Did he eat wiz?

>>179892538
>>179892578
>officially released for 1 day
>roll back the next day
kek

>>179893006
Wiz's performance was... unsatisfactory, so he's been send to the Crucible for reeducation.

>>179892934
Because Paradox games are like little sticks just glued together with a glue intended for metallic surfaces.

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So this is the power... of beauty... Woah

>rush strategics
>roll into vodyani territory
>slaughter their arks while they watch helplessly

How have you defended the visionary leadership of Emperor Maximillian Zelevas today, fellow patriots?

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STELLARIS IS REVERTED TO PREVIOUS VERSION

PARADOX CANT EVEN GET A FIXING PATCH RIGHT

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>179893121
French is the most beautiful language of all.

>>179890194
>>179890220
>>179890840

I settled the -25% minerals and got some weird event I've never seen before, robots coming from the moon removed a tile blocker then built a space elevator for another 20% mineral reduction. What a pain

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>>179893217
C'est vrai

>>179893213
Dont be an ass. The dev team works hard on new updates and for its pricing the gane is in a marvelous position.

>>179893252

That fucking game never ceases to amaze me.

>>179893217
It's nice but it has little trip ups that just take you out of it
>pourcentage

>>179893437
Well, except for that fag. Also, try to avoid posting in French only, it triggers the mod's PTSD of being raped by a French maid.

>>179893475
But, but it doesn't mean they're good at it. Hard work and skill are BOTH needed, and Paradox lacks the skill.