/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

1st for Riftborn bullying

>>179981425
Its pretty good, doesn't hold a candle to SC4 though.

Unsolved questions from last thread:

>1, When you gene mod a species their species portrait changes in the species menu. What is the rule for this change?
>I have several different species portraits and every one of them seems to be tied to a biome type. For example, subspecies with ammonia preference always use the same species portrait.
>How is it defined which one the game will use?

>2, How do you fix the miniaturized portrait bug?
>Changing the scaling to 2.0 doesn't solve it.

>3, Stellaris is critically low on anime mods, don't you guys agree?
>We need to create MOAR for great justice.

>I mean when will Animaris be finally fixed? Can't we just get to it and fix the mod ourselves?

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>>179981657
Oh noooo, what a shame, someone made the thread!
And it's a nice OP, with all the (Embed) removed and the tags added, what a shaaaame I don't get to do it!

Thanks OP, you're a nice guy.

>>179981673
That's because I thought that annoncing a new thread would get people to rush a new one quickly.

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KUMOD (KUMO MOD) WHEN

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I was reading discussion about Stellaris reverting back to 1.6.2, cuz multiplayer update not working for large part of community. And saw interesting thing. Every post with even slight sign of disappoitment was ignored or shitposted to the ground. Going back to begining of my adventure with Stellaris (Leviathans) Paradox couldn't handle fixing game properly. However we achieved 1.6 Fixpack patch, and Paradox failed hard. They introduced more important bugs than they fixed. But ppl still defended them. Paradox promised not to make such error (rushed release of unpolished patch), yet same stuff happens literally next patch. Half of the patch does not work. I open discussion, and I see compliments"it was brave move", "it wasn't their fault" etc.
Honestly, I don't get it. Paradox fucked up hard. After their recent promise, they failed to deliver. Id expect outrage. Yet, nothing like this happens. Before you shitpost me to the ground, could you explain me your reason behind defending Paradox? Explain me why community seems to be ok with this shitty quality of new patches? Im really curious.

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Does anyone have any clue what sort of insanity could result in me getting 15 inflence per pop on every Ark in the empire, including this one which only has food luxury upgrade and a pop bump.

>>179981840

People don't outrage because paradox "apologised". It's the abusive partner relationship - "they'll change, they won't hit me again, they won't beat me bloody again" and so on.

>>179981891
What did you use for luxury resource plans?

>>179981891

Probably got the influence module on the ark m8

>>179981931
As I said, food luxury +4/pop. The only thing that should be giving me free inflence is Amoeba Groupthink But it's supposed to give 20/10 per alliance/peace, not 15 flat PER POP, I have no other empire wide influence modifiers that I know of.

>>179981840
>Before you shitpost me to the ground, could you explain me your reason behind defending Paradox?
Dude, nobody here defends Paradox. They get shitted on on a daily basis.

>>179981840
There are always fanatic shills, god knows why. There are people right now that argue in favor of Paradox raising prices all across the board.
But the majority is pretty mad at them.

>>179981907
Its really scary, I start to notice a pattern: If you dont buy the Dlcs your game will be worse then before.
>Oh we buffed the crisis events into the hundred thousands! Wouldnt it be convenient to get thet 50% extra damage perk available only in the barebones 20$ Dlc?
>Oh we buffed AE so they have ginormous deathstacks! The +33% Damege Dlc perk wold be nice to have, right?
>Oh, terraforming is slow and not viable? How about a flat +100% extra tf speed buff? Dlc only!

The same shit is in their other games, like eu4, see institutions.

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>>179981978
Ark influence modules give a flat boost not per pop one.

>>179981840
>Explain me why community seems to be ok with this shitty quality of new patches? Im really curious.
Two words for you: Praise Diversity!

>>179982148
And why the fuck are thy charging 20 ( twenty) Dollars for their Utopia Dlc?

We get:
>Hivemind, extremely barebones and actually removes(!) events and flavor from the game
>"Megastructures" half of which arent even viable (40000 minerals for 100 energy, what a deal!)
>Ascensinon perks most of which are value changes and tech unlock (Mastery of nature: gain 10 free techs and value change, Master builders just value change, Galactic contender: value change)


Thats basically it. What the fuck Paradox, thats the price of the base game for this? And what are thy doing? Fixing the game we bought? No shitpost on Twitter (Le COVFEFE XD) And flag " abusive" comments on Steam. Fucking faggots, respectfully go fuck yourself.

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someone show me ai designs from 1.0.16. This is just silly.

>>179982404

Respectfully disagree.

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Okay, I mock the Scottish for being retarded, but they're actually pretty buff in that game.
Their "advanced" melee unit, the swordsman. Fully upgraded, it deals 35 damage (of an unusual type), ADDED to the formation damage (which can go to +7, and it doesn't need an officer, so no upkeep), it has +80% more HP compared to a pikeman, is a bit faster, and has very solid defense (except against bullets).

Thei downside is that the building to train them is expensive and they're slow to build (7 seconds), but Fuck, they're like horseless cavalry.

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And as if the swordsmen weren't enough, the Scottish also have an unique cannon, the frame gun.
It replaces the multi-barreled gun, but has a bigger range, and can attack buildings. It behaves like a smaller cannon, with less damage (500) but a better rate of fire. It also eats iron and coal like there's no tomorrow. If this was KanColle instead of Cossacks, I'd make an Akagi joke.

And if that wasn't enough, the Scottish also have archers, who are a joke against the infantry, but are very good against buildings.

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But if they're fun to play, Scotland has several massive flaws :
- only two ranged infantry : the XVIIth musketeers, and the archers,
- no heavy cavalry, and no ranged cavalry either, their two cavalry units are light,
- no XVIIIth century, so no balloon to uncover the map (if you play with fog of war, it's an issue).
- England laughs at you if you play them.

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>fags starting riftborn
It says all.

>>179984756

>build big things
>hak empire
>playing games

>>179984756
>protect happiness
>kill horatio
>damn meme unless bonuses
>keep using kinetics
>dlc bad mean
Your wisdom will be listened to, oh Cloud!

Tell me about habitats. Are they worth that ascenscion perk?

>>179984756
>minor single problem
>missiles without stuff
>federation destroy conversion

>>179984920
>ascension fucked
THE CLOUD HAS SPOKEN

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This fucking company is slowly depopulating Earth and putting it on the moon. Earth is at 2.8k million and Luna is at 2.4k million.

I have already set up a colony in another system but they're still doing this fucking run. Not even putting them on Mars.

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>>179985026
I don't understand that screenshot.

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>>179985329
It's autism.

I just figured out why. Luna was still a destination for colonists. I just set it to be a source while I set Earth to be stable.

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>>179985584
"Setting" colony? What, like in Star Ruler, and you give orders and the planetary governor will build differents buildings?

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>>179985647
Nope. Colonies have a pop amount. Civilian liners will transport colonists around these planets depending on where they're needed. Luna was still a source for colonists, so Pritchard Limited kept transporting people there for decades despite Mars and Gaul (my new planet) having much less population. So, by making Earth stable (no emigration or immigration), I made Luna the sole source for colonists in my empire.

You don't even want to see the way ships are designed in this game...

>>179985801
Show us ship design, forestall the obvious question.

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>>179985801
Oh, so unlike in Distant Worlds, you have some more controls on the population movement.

I do like how some private ships organize in companies. That's something I dig for.

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>>179985842
This is my destroyer design

Before this, I had to design the sensors, the kind of engine my missiles had, then the missile itself, not to mention the tube where these missiles launch from. Can't have a size 8 missile in a size 6 missile tube. And you need a good range to launch those missiles.

I set up gauss turrets (Design the gauss gun itself, then make a turret for it) with a fire control for PD purposes. For that, I needed a sensor that can detect missiles. So in the end, I have multiple sensors in one ship for multiple purposes since resolution (A missile can be 1 HS, a ship can be 60 HS) directly affects distance.

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>>179986081
>I had to design the sensors, the kind of engine my missiles had, then the missile itself, not to mention the tube where these missiles launch from
Oh yeah, I knew you had to design missiles.
I forgot about it.

Is Stellaris' Fleet Management still shit or did they fix it?

what are some games?

>>179986868
>Stellaris' Fleet Management
No such thing exist.

>>179986868
They added rally points a while ago, but that's it.

Fighting the prethoryn really feels like its warhammer 40k.
As much as I beat them and I blow up their planets they keep coming back.
I even have gene warriors fighting off their invasions.

>>179987146
He probably means something like EUIV where you can easily raises troops in all provinces.

>>179986873
What do you like?

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>>179986868

Still shit. No formation setting.

>https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-73-the-Čapek-update.1029455/

Stellaris is now named "Colony Rush: Frozen Worlds".

>>179987205
I miss Chapter Master.

>>179982181

When will this fucking game be popular enough so I can torrent it with more than 2 seeds without getting some keylogger up my ass?

>>179987427
Try to get a job, poorfag.

>>179985026
>all those private lines
Say goodbye to your turn time..

>>179987427
Anon. I'm sorry but you're retarded.

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>>179987487

>What if the fag has a job and wants the game for free?

>>179987569

Not sure how its now but last time I checked there were several complains and none of the tracker uploaders were trusted.

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>>179987594
>Wanting things
You fuckin tellin me mate you ain't ascended to a spiritual Buddha haven that surpasses material needs.
Get on my level.

>>179987594
>having earthly desires

>>179986873
Minecraft, Call of Duty, Peggle.

>>179987594
But the swede needs money to pay for all rapefugee asylums in taxes.

>>179983860
>>179983975
>>179984206
Do they speak like htat : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unv5XXZWIx0 ?

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Does anyone know how to revert the insane nerf to Vodyani heroes per level FIDS bonus? It went from 8% to 1% and it's so fucking small it now shows 0% on the description because they fucked it so hard.

Doesn't even make sense why they instantly nerfed that shit into the ground.

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>>179987749

Im a poortuguese fag. No such thing as money here.

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>>179987829
Install 1.0.16

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>>179988241
Thanks. I didn't check in 1.0.16 if they changed it. I'd give you a blowjob.

>>179988241
the fuck? lvl 11 hero gives +44 all on all pops?

>>179988508
As the name goes. We wuz Virtual.

I'm pretty sure it's a mistake that will get corrected, but in meantime I enjoy my infinite influence.

>>179988241
anyone got an upload of the beta patch?

I'm trying to play Stellaris, but it keeps crashing after a short time. It has happened two times so far, seemingly at the time when I finished that first contact research. What do?

>>179988508
on their system, with +11 FIDSI to all systems if they're the leader of a political party that's in senate

it really should be 2 FIDS/1 FIDS split, with influence left completely out

>>179987863
>wanted to take over the New World
>nowaday is a joke
How Portugal fell...

>>179988690
It should be 1 FIDS/ 1 FIDS with influence and dust left out. Don't you know anything?!

Nigger fuck off.

>>179987286
>He probably means something like EUIV where you can easily raises troops in all provinces.

No I don't. I mean an interface that lets you manage all fleets.

>>179989141
Well in that case there's still no such thing.

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HAK HAK HAK

>>179981840
>Honestly, I don't get it. Paradox fucked up hard.
They fucked up, but specifically hard? I don't know. It felt like a mild annoyance.
I started up the game, saw that 2 of my mods didn't work for 1.7.2, decided to wait with playing, then saw that those two mods later worked, but not my 3rd mod because it was for a future version now.
It was dumb, but I just kept playing at a later moment since I am not specifically looking for drama and reasons to shit on paradox, there's plenty of legitimate stuff I can complain about with paradox and their games already.

Since I don't hate on them always for every possible reason I'm just a bought shill though.
Even though I started by pirating eu3, and have pirated all of the eu4 dlc.

>>179988690
>>179989141
I think it should go back to percetages. 10% Fidsi bonus at level 10 is big enough, no need to overbufff it to oblivion.

>>179984756
>actual races care

>>179989141
>manage all fleets.
In what way?
What do you want to do?

>>179981840
>I was reading discussion about Stellaris reverting back to 1.6.2, cuz multiplayer update not working for large part of community. And saw interesting thing. Every post with even slight sign of disappoitment was ignored or shitposted to the ground. Going back to begining of my adventure with Stellaris (Leviathans) Paradox couldn't handle fixing game properly. However we achieved 1.6 Fixpack patch, and Paradox failed hard. They introduced more important bugs than they fixed. But ppl still defended them. Paradox promised not to make such error (rushed release of unpolished patch), yet same stuff happens literally next patch. Half of the patch does not work. I open discussion, and I see compliments"it was brave move", "it wasn't their fault" etc.
>Honestly, I don't get it. Paradox fucked up hard. After their recent promise, they failed to deliver. Id expect outrage. Yet, nothing like this happens.

The difference between the Stellaris Whiteknights and the HOI 4 forum is insane.

Both games are going through the same issues with shit AI, and crap patching, along with similar DLC rip-offs.

The HOI4 forum is rightly taking Paradox as a developer AND a publisher to task for their ongoing fuckups, while the Stellaris forum is sucking hard dick. When was the last time

It's like they don't even realise there's no Ubisoft or EA pushing these broken updates, failing to hire QA staff, and letting their devs go live with untested updates before another set of holidays, and having too many artists and not enough coders & testers.

There hasn't been many patch rollbacks. I found a few one in Street Fighter because it installed a rootkit.

It's a colossal fuckup that should see people fired.

But nah, let's all give them kudos for making "a hard decision". A "hard decision" would be stopping the flood of poorly made DLC"s for HOI4 & Stellaris, cutting un-necessary artists and not concentrating on fixing the game as it stands.

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>>179990458
It sounds like he wants a fleet list.

>>179991136
Because most Stellaris fags are newfags trying 4x for the first time.

>>179991158
doesn't the outliner kinda function for that?

Too much stuff for one column in the outliner though imo.
I'd rather have two columns with ships in one of them.
fuck scrolling.

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>>179981657
>playing as Russia, trying to go for culture
>game spawns me next to Brazil
>fucker just gets mad at everything I do
>Right next to tundra, so Barbarians just sweep my asshole left and right
>Aussies are met next, get mad at my lack of a military since I had been trying to hold barbarians at bay using a mountain pass to my advantage.
>Brazil surprise war
>Aussie surprise war
>stunted growth due to barbarians
>lose all but coastal cities, so now I'm a crab farmer
>mfw

>>179991136
>cutting un-necessary artists
How many artists do they have?

I can understand them for having a year round art team that works on dlc after the game is "done", just so they don't have to fire the artists every time they're done with a base product, but it doesn't seem like these games should require that many to be honest.

>>179991240
probably part of the reason, people who are into the thematic genre(scifi, space), but not deeply into the mechanical genre(4x) since before so they can't really critique it

>Dyson Sphere!
>I know that that is!
>I clapped, I clapped when I saw Ringworlds!

>>179991537
You are like a little kid.
Check this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MEdj9jHPMg

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>>179991623
Never been a fan of the Dark Souls series. I've tried to get into them, but it's not the deaths that turn me off just the controls and weapon management.

I see why people like it, but just not my cup of tea.

>>179991701
Not my point. Look at the boss.

>>179991743
I did, it's a crab, I chuckled.

The point was more that I was angry my shit got pushed in to the point of crab farmer. Not that I was fighting crabs.

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>>179991835
You do sound a bit crabby.

>>179991894
he needs to have fun tonight, go out and get a decent whore, better wear protection though so you dont get aids

>love endless legend for being a Civ V that isn't terrible
>want more
>buy endless space on sale for a dollar
>boot it up
>choose horatio because maymays
>no explanation
>start on a two system void that I can't escape from
>quit after 20 minutes of confusion
>watch e3
>see trailers for endless space 2
>it looks good
>remember the confusing pain of ES1

Should I buy the sequel? Is it better? Does it actually explain game concepts?

>>179982404
You see, they charge that much because people still buy it.

>>179988778

>Portugal, Cartage and Venice

The trades my man! The trades!

>>179992075
ES1 is bad, ES2 is far closer to EL and is actually good although you have to deal with it being a new 4x which means buggy and unbalanced.

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I love robutts.

That's all.

>>179992473
But thats a toaster and worst peethree

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>>179992473
So do I. I don't care if I'll break my hands, I want to spank it.

Shame there's no ship section for corvettes with more defensive slots and less offensive slots.

Liked making just bait corvettes that stacked up on more shields/crystals in earlier versions.

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>>179991894
Alright that one gave me more of a laugh

>>179992208
>rock paper scissors in space
>have to disable virtually every victory condition for a vaguely satisfying game
>actually good

Nice, Unbidden spawned right in the middle of my empire

I can probably beat them, but then this angry Awakened empire will declare war when I'm low on military power

>>179992686
>>rock paper scissors in space
Oh no, actual engaging combat, why live.
>>have to disable virtually every victory condition for a vaguely satisfying game
Yeah, Ill give you that, tho I keep them enabled for extra difficulty.
>>actually good
Yeah, it actually is.

>>179993230

You could just declare on the AE and hope they come kill the Unbidden for you.

>>179992686
I did so its unbalanced anon

>>179992686
Pretty much all strategy games are about rock paper scissors.
Artillery is good against buildings, who are good against infantry.
Cavalry is good against archers, who are good against swordsmen, who are good against pikemen, who are good against cavalry.

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>feel like Stellaris
>Play F.Egal+Militarists because I want to bring Democracy® and kick in backwards dictatorships and theocracies
>Diplomacy sucks dick
>Militarists are made that I made a federation out of likely minded empires
>My puppets can't join federation
>Puppets are useless, cannot direct control fleets
>No install ideology + puppet wargoal
>No restore order wargoal so I can just give Commonwealth of Man to the United Nations of Earth
>Can't add wargoals mid-war
>There are no galaxy-wide wars which make wargoals cheaper
>Can't play a quality/tall playthrough although you can in every other Paradox game

I fucking hate this game just because it lets me down so fucking much

>>179994916
sounds to me like you just want to play vicky 2

>>179995443
Not him, but when I first started Stellaris, I expected some original mix between Crusader Kings 2 and Europa Universalis 4 (that everyone hate but that I like), but IN SPAAAAAAAAACE.

What's my war goal if I just wanna wipe out their species?

>>179995651
Cleanse Planet. Restricted to Xenophobes only, however.

>>179995651
cleanse all their planets, cede their homeworld, purge pops on homeworld once you own it

>>179995443
Not him but I would quite like to play Vicky 2 in space.

>>179995698
>>179995720
Will I be able to abandon the planet after ceding and cleansing?

>>179995804
I sort of would too honestly

>>179995870
Cleanse Planet just kills the colony outright, and a planet gets auto abandoned if all pops on it die

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Thank God that worked, I was ready for my game to crash a dozen times first.

>>179995870

The planet is automatically abandoned if you use cleanse planet. If it's the ceded planet, you have to wait for the pops to die, however, if you wanna keep the planet, move one of your own pops to it.

>>179995870
cleanse removes all pops so no one will own it

you can't cleanse homeworlds though, so you have to cede. Once all pops have been purged though then no one will own it, thus abandoned.

>>179995914
>>179995945
Alright, I was just confused about cleansing since they only have one planet and apparently there's no cleanse option for home worlds.

Is there a way to abandond your own colonies in Stellaris?

>>179995916
using meritocratic collectivities is practically cheating

>>179996072
I should make a flowchart to answer these questions.

>>179981718
>(Embed) removed
?

>>179996470

>being this new

>>179996470
If you don't pay attention when making a new thread, you end up copying links, so it looks like
> Horatio splicing guide
pastebin.com/1cH8sqEH (embed) (embed) (embed)

>>179996470
memes

>>179996527
>>179996528
There hasn't been any in the OP for over 2 weeks though

>>179996702
Because people are careful.

Or maybe because the guy who makes the OP has the embed turned off.

>>179996702

I made the OP today and have embedding turned off. I guess the other person who made the threads recently did too.

>>179996839
I often make threads for other generals and its not difficult to manually remove them.

>>179996120
I was just heading through the game to check the Mexari's 50-pop bonus was working as intended.

There should really be +ind/+inf, +sci/+inf and +manpower/+inf for the UE. Maybe the race should start with +inf and get the other bonus when appropriate.

does covert infiltration on an atomic civ make them self nuke immune?

>>179996839
>>179996768
It's like I'm speaking a different language here.
I was confused as to why someone would note that Embed was removed in this thread, when it wasn't in the previous thread.

>>179997094
Nope

>>179997096

Because if I just copy and pasted the previous OP like I did, but with embed enabled, there would be (Embed)s all over the OP in this thread.

>>179997094
rp meta

You're playing Fanatic Xenophiles-Militarist, you don't have anything against intervention, you just want to preserve a wide variety of species, especially sapient species, so whenever a you find primtives entering atomic era you invade them so you can preserve their species

>>179997096
Because most people have Embed turned on, so they tend to add them to OP.
What's so complicated about it? Do you have brain damage or are you just new?

>>179997239
I thought you couldn't invade primitives as fanatic xenophile? IIRC you can't even infiltrate, just uplift.

>>179997183
Doesn't really adress the point

>>179997339

Stop pretending to be retarded and fuck off somewhere else, please.

How many pops do Vodyani Arks hold?

>>179997384
As many as need be.

>>179997502
I left when HPM was arrested by the Chinese government, what's happening now?

>>179997502
I'd tell you to lick my ass instead, but you would enjoy it too much.

>>179997246
But no one has added it to the OP for 2 weeks.
It's like it hasn't rained for 2 weeks and then only after that time someone exclaims, "thank god it stop raining", when we've had sunshine for 2 weeks.
I understand that some people can copy over the embed part, but it hasn't happened for that long, how do you not understand my point?

>>179986868
They added the ability to split damage ships and ship sizes from the fleet, but that's it.

>>179997789

You don't (probably do though) understand how embed works.

Here's a link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeGv-QtHyaA

If you have embed enabled, you can see that at the end of the link, it says "(Embed)". If you were to copy that link without paying attention, you would also copy the (embed) part. It's very easy to do when someone wants to make a new thread ASAP and all the pastebin links would get (Embed) next to them, thus starting the chain anew. It would then be up to the next person to remove them, however, if they also rush a thread, there would be (Embed) (Embed) at the end of the link.

I know you're just taking the piss, and I know I'm wasting my time, but fuck it, enjoy the music.

>>179997882
>some fag pretending to be new and asking about stellaris to start a sperg war
As an occasional crossposter I think it's just a troll baiting.

Not sure when I last browsed /gsg/, maybe it was a period of 2 months a few months ago, but I saw question asking why he couldn't talk about stellaris every other thread.

>>179998043
The point went completely over your head again, or you are baiting me.
I know have Embed works and I see it at the end of the link.

Someone hasn't copied the op without paying attention for two weeks, and thus extra embed text hasn't appeared for that long. Therefore it's just a little weird to suddenly point out that it's not there as I tried to explain in the scenario with rain to you.

>>179998323

Whatever. It's an easy mistake to make, and someone new made the new OP, obviously, and so spider anon or whoever decided to point out that they didn't do (Embed)s.

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Need a bit of help with last vodyani faction quest. Doing the heretic side. Do I just pick 2 random planets and blow them up?

Say what you will about the spiderposter but at least when he makes an OP we don't spend time arguing about what (embed)s

>>179998484
True. People tend to complains about spiders instead, and they start posting webms of dark elves getting bullied.

>>179998395
Thank you for finally not just repeating yourself and not trying to explain something I already understood.

>new op
>anon decided to pat him on the back for not messing up an understandable mistake others have done
fine, thank you

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Is Superpower /civ4xg/ or /gsg/?

Also
>all these numbers
Mmm, yes, sexy, oh yeah, keep these numbers coming...
I didn't know Canada has so much unusable lands, I thought it was 90% pine forests.

>>179998793
pretty sure it belongs in /trash/

>I didn't know Canada has so much unusable lands, I thought it was 90% pine forests.

pretty sure you're retarded

>>179998793
the wiki calls superpower 2 a real time strategy wargame so probably gs.

I haven't played it so I can't judge how it fares to the 4 exes

>>179998793
its /gsg/, check the infograph.

>>179998793
I've seen people discuss it here before.

>>179998973
>>179999043
>>179999049
So nobody knows, huh?

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>>179998793
>>179998973
I would love top play this game but its too low on details.

>tfw i think Aurora could some more detail and micromanagment

Im not too sane am i ?

>>179999095
what? re-read my post >>179999043

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>>179999095

>>179999169
Anon you need to get a cure.

Picked the +50% damage to unbidden trait... these fucks were a complete pushover.

Plus they purged some planets full of conquered species, which was great as I didn't want them.

>>179999293
Your post is just an opinion, it doesn't mean much.
Besides, I went to /gsg/, they don't discuss the game, therefore you're wrong.

>>179999443
Nobody anywhere discusses the game, you moron.

>>179999348
I cant, Steve went onto a vacation.
I wont get my cure anytime soon..

>>179999443
>I went to /gsg/
Im sorry anon.

>>179999675
You need to calm your raging boner for numbers, Anon.

>>179999443
>Besides, I went to /gsg/, they don't discuss the game, therefore you're wrong.
Then start the discussion on the game there, go there and post your progress on your game.
Even if people won't play it they might care, eventually someone who does play it probably does take notice of it.

No one in here is right now playing Civ4, but it is still relevant to this general..
At least not posting about it.
I think I am too lazy to screen the thread for civ4.

>>179999861
You really shouldn't respond to bait.

>>179999861
Or I can post about the game here.

I'd rather stay here than return to /gsg/.

>>179999918
Probably not.
Too often I can't stop myself though.

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>>179999762
What boner ?

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american and mexican languages missing, damn

>>180000392
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Portuguese

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>tutorial has the US attacking Mexico
Okay.
Also I don't know what "Joshua.exe" is, but launching the game starts it twice.

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>basic resolution has a few buttons out of the screen
SlowClap.gif
Bravo!

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>tutorial mentions using a "tabulation mouse"
>press Tab
>nothing happens
>press the scroll button on the mouse
>nothing
Okay, I think I'll try it again later.

>>180000216
That huge, thick, pulsating boner you have for details and numbers.

>>180000776
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Portuguese

It's still portuguese you dumbass

>>180001459
I bet you think that American is English.

Is there a list so far of all the found changes in the new es2 patch?

Okay, Space Empires, Stellaris....

What other 4x games allow custom art for custom factions? I'm kinda shopping around a bit.

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>>180001246
There is no boner a-anon...

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Okay, nevermind Superpower 2 for a moment. I'll fix it later.

Now we're up for some DISTANT WORLDS UNIVERSE. And in DISTANT WORLDS UNIVERSE, you have NUMBERS. MANY NUMBERS
I LOVE NUMBERS.

>>180002102
Liar.

I demand sauce on Wiz's gf.

>>180003269
but we are his gf
why only non consensual anal tho

>Impossible difficulty
>Play as Sophons because I haven't played their quest yet
>Pick the explore 75% of the galaxy objective because science lmao, shit out ten exploration ships with sanic sophon thrusters with the boogie law
>Find Riftborn immediately, they get pissed
>Find Cravers fucking up the Vodyani next turn, they both get pissed
>Find the UE, another Sophon, Lumeris and Horatio, all friendly
>Riftborn declares war on me pretty much immediately, have to rush ships and send them to the frontlines
>Meet the Cravers parking on a Riftborn world
>They declare war on both of us
>The Vodyani declare war on me and somehow was still able to park Arks on my planets
>Pick up alliance tech. UE, other Sophon and Lumeris are in
>Some fucking how the Cravers make an alliance with Horatio
>Shit went bonkers, allied empires are all jumbled together in the map, all surrounding each other

I didn't expect that run to be as much fun as it ended up being, with the Cravers running asinine amounts of rape fleets.

>>180003928
>Cravers running asinine amounts of rape fleets
I mean, that's pretty much ES2 in a nutshell.

You can play whomever you want, do whatever you fancy, but sooner or later cravers will show up to collect their due.

>>179981657
>Build a species with the 'Strong' trait.
>Pacifist/Fanatic Materialist.
>Agrarian Idyll.

Build robots on minerals, farm Unity and Science. Settle as many places as possible, really ramp up your resource production.

Before you ascend, make sure you've developed a Militarist faction -- the Strong trait helps with this. Because you have so many robots, and your science output is so high, your Pacifist ethos will have a much lower draw.

When you become Synthetic, embrace Militarism, ditch Pacifism, and conquer the galaxy with your android armies.

>>180004192
What I didn't expect was them allying the Horatio, I think this is the first time I've seen the Cravers do that to someone that's not me.

>>179981684
by fpbp rules I guess its confirmed lads, suffer not those from a pristine universe to remain unbullied

>spiritualist and materialist FEs spawn next to each other
>prophets retreat is a pixel outside of the materialists border

Maybe we'll get a war in heaven that won't ruin the galaxy for once

>>180004587
>using strong for militarism ethics draw
intredasting

what is the "Terror bombing" modifier? I'm using limited stance, that's not worth of it is it?

>>180005473
Any non-militaristic empire or an empire without the full bombardment policy will get upset at you whenever you kill a pop. Any bombardment stance that can kill a pop can cause it.

>>180004587

But anon. Strong doesnt apply to robots and its mineral based (apart from army damage). Why not spending points on other traits instead (robots do the mining)?

>>180005678
You should read the post you're replying to before you post.
>Before you ascend, make sure you've developed a Militarist faction -- the Strong trait helps with this.

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Yeah I think I'll have an easy time colonizing this. They're my own race, after all.

>>179998793
leafland is a frozen shithole, yes
90% of our population is within 100 miles of the American border

>>180005941

That takes fucking ages! You are gimping yourself hard, not to mention that robots have a penalty to unity generation.

Anyone who's followed amplitude games before know how likely a sale for ES2 is in the upcoming Steam one?

>>180006508
If you only think the game is worth money when it is on a sale, why not just pirate it until it is on a sale, whenever that is?

>>180006576
Thats a good point but I know I'm a piece of shit that won't bother paying for it once I've pirated it even if I do find I enjoy it. also muh achievements

>>180006363

Slaves and robots are for "horizontal growing", not so much for "growing tall" which is the stuff of pacifists and hive minds.

>>180006876

>*pacifists, not hive minds

>>180005678
Strong helps encourage your pops to embrace Militarism.

>>180005980
Seriously? I thought most of Canada were forests, and that it was considered wasteland in EU4 just for balance.

>>180006662
>that won't bother paying for it once I've pirated
ah that's a shame
I only buy games after I've pirated them so I know they're worth the money

>>180007065
You cannot be serious.

>>180007121

Thats how patricians do it. Good for you.
I just pirate them because Im a poorfag.

>>180007013

Actually its correct. Hive minds also get unity generation bonus.

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>>180006876

>>180007186
Dude, I'm really bad at geography, and even moreso on the New Continent.

>>180008271
>godfearing free fleshbags confirmed white and based

>>180007186
Be fair on the guy, if you're not a leaf you have no reason to care about somewhere not even the actual leafs care about

>>180008553

>that guy has conquered new pops. Has a lot of slaves/synths/minerals at his disposal

Wiz's attempt to balance things out. Horizontal growing is still more OP.

WHY CANT I TRADE POPS REEEEEEEE
I WOULD PAY YOU FUCKTON OF MINERALS FOR A SINGLE POP REEEEEEEEEE
GIMME UR POP NAOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>180008271

>2x Xenos

Any conqueror is fucked in terms of traditions.

>>180009165

Migration treaty. Egalitarian and xenophile ethos give more attractiveness by default (I think...).

>>180009472
I'm both and it DOESNT WORK. But when it does, I CANT RELOCATE them anyway. I even swapped their country and enabled free migration without success.
I'm going authoritarian, fuck egalitarianism.

The only time I can get migration with 100% of the time are on gaia worlds.

It's so fucking pointless. Trade is pretty simplistic, pop trading should be there by default.

>>180010003
>pop trading should be there by default.
Heck, it would be a peaceful way of solving xeno issues for xenophiles. Just call the slavers and sell them for *protection*.

>>180010003

Authoritarians never do migration treaties. Your pops will be in the yellow most of the time and will most likely flee your territory. Want more pops? Take over pre space civs, conquer factions or increase food supply.

>>180010543
>Authoritarians never do migration treaties
WRONG

>>180010661

Correct. They can indeed make them but attraction is shit and they will always lose pops. So why would you make one in the first place wise ass?

>>180010768
To get pops?
To give them my pops?

>>180010768

Uh, no, they don't lose pops, since an authoritarian who isn't retarded will always have migration controls enabled for their pops. So they can come, but can't leave.

>>180012009
I could smuggle them out tho
Just one single teeenie-weenie pop
I swear its not for enslavings

So wait

Who won the Aurigabowl and got to space for ES2?

>>180013490
The ship from the quest ending blew up and made the riftborn happen

>>180013569
Could you source that? Cause that's just sad.

>>179991308
The outliner doesn't function at all. It gives no relative information on anything besides timers unless you click and pull up the actual window

>>180014013
The riftborn teaser trailer intro thing shows it.

>>180014013
This one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3Fqo0w9420

>>180012009

Im not even sure if you can make a deal with migration controls on all pops. That would be retarded and an extra advantage.

>>180014065
>>180014179
Thanks, but it It shows A ship getting blown, how do we know that it was Auriga escape boat?

Not being pedantic, Just curious.

>>180014490

well, you can, because I did it in one of my last games. Was building habitats and ringworlds and they'd fill up almost immediately. Nobody in my empire ever once migrated between planets or out of my empire.

>>180014597
Its identical looking to the EL ship and its over an icy planet. We can't be sure but with no Auriga survivors being a power its a safe assumption

>>180014642
this. Migration Treaties only don't work if there's Migration Control on the pop moving

>>180015028

Yeah I kept trying to do a migration treaty with an auth faction but wasn't possible, presumably due to them disallowing migration.

>>180015026
If you say so. Again, I don't have a vested interest, just curious.

>>180014045
So what information do you want?

>>180015241
Its not confirmed but until we get DLC or updates telling us what happened its as much closure as we've got.

>>180014597
The ship looks identical and you can see the crystal you retrieve during the questline

How do I riftborn

>>180015628
lol fattie

>>180015628
Think geometrically

>>180015628
What, exactly, is causing you issues?

>>180015721
>>180015726
*raises singularity menacingly*

>>180015838
I just started the game and I'm already thinking like "when should I make pops and when should I focus on building an infrastructure so I can make pops faster"

>>180015838
Also I've only played Unfallen so far and their colonization game is babbymode as fuck, so I'm also questioning when to make colony ships as well as the two questions in the last post

Why can't I build habitats?
Did Paradogs seriously just fucked up megastructures?

>>180014013
>>180014597
>>180015241
there's a short story written by jeff spock, amplitude's narative director, about the grey owl, a hissho ship; because the prologue was written from the perspective of a vaulter diplomat/historian who found the logs on the crashed ship, it's safe to assume that the grey owl was the quest victory ship

going back to that trailer, you can clearly see the emblem of the hissho on its side when it zooms past the camera - put two and two together, it's the grey owl

also, just to note, larger ships in ES2 have a bit of a dust residue when they warp in while attacking another fleet - one that is very similar to the dust explosion in the trailer; combine this with the fact that vaulters are amplitude's pet faction and yet are the only ES1 faction to not have a spiritual successor faction/be completely absent from ES2, it's entirely possible that they made it out fine

>>180015523
The crystal is a fair point, I thought that looked significant but, having not played
>>180015967
Same as with any other faction.

1) Pick your priorities, I'd advise Ind>S>D>Inf>F
2) See what gets you most of what you are currently building up.

So for example early game as is with pretty much everyone you want production. For example, if you have a lava plant than creating a riftborn and putting him there would get you production more efficiently than building an industy building. Just keep in mind that riftborn generate All 3 of your top priorities so building them often is a very good idea, but don't overdo it. At about 3 building more becomes a balancing act, at 5 - prohibitively expensive.

>>180016209
>when to make colony ships as
>as riftborn

As often and as many as you can afford without crippling your industrial growth.

>>180015026
>>180015523
It's more likely the ship from dungeon of the endless. Vaulters are the devs waifus, there's zero chance they won't be a faction later.

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>>180016575
also just found this system right next to me

>all this fucking industry

Can I build pops here and send them to other systems?

Hey guys just wondering why in napoopan is the Spanish empire broken up but not the Portuguese also is playing Portugal in that mod considered cheating?

Also in HPM is there any way to prevent the congo colonial events?

>>180016575
>having not played
Endless Legend in quite a while I forgot why.
>>180016670
Pretty sure it's the same boat in Dungeons and EL, mate.

>>180016520
>not have a spiritual successor faction
Isn't pilgrim minor faction kinda like them in many ways? Than there are the Mezari, who while not from the same ideological stock are still, well, mezari. Not Sure I agree with you on that.

>it's entirely possible that they made it out fine
That begs the question - how. Tho it's always possible that they made it out settled somewhere and then, perhaps on a track back to auriga to get more people out, ship blew up.

>>180016847
>Can I build pops here and send them to other systems?
Yes, If you don't mind spending time doing so it can be quite benefitial.

>>180017103
Wrong tab mate.

Why can't I build a fucking habitat?
"Cannot build on an unsurveyed or habitable planet."

This stupid game considers EVERY planet as habitable.

>>180017234
But then again, we don't have a race with a hellgate, so maybe they are getting added in the DLC.

>sophon voice acting

KILL

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>>180017234
>pilgrims
pilgrims are an entirely different faction from ES1, while mezari are similar, they are NOT the people who crashed on auriga when it was a barren wasteland, and they are not the ones who won; in ES2, mezari literally just means "precursor human". they are also completely different mechanically when we take the ES1 vaulters mechanics into consideration.

as for how they survived, like i said, when larger ships jump into battle in ES2 they have a dust residue from coming out of FTL VERY similar to that in the new beginning trailer

besides, do you really expect amplitude NOT to include the vaulters in their game? they're their absolute pet faction

>>180017346
survey

>>180018285
Already did. None of my systems meet the requirements.
By looks of it paraducks fucked up a line.

>>180018072
I'll be fine with them adding Vaulters if they actually make them interesting to play as this time around.

>>180018072
To clarify do you think what we presume was an explosion was justr a standard jump?

>>180018414
The

"colonizeable_planet = no # prevent the spaceport colliding with the habitat"

is fucked up and without contexts. Removing it from the habitats.txt fixes it

>tree spreading its disgusting vines next to my system

PURGE

>>180019230
>letting it end in fire
Do you even peace trees?

>>180018072
I thnk you for your perspective, but you really shouldn't be cryptic when explaining obscure lore, w/o >>180018928, I wouldn't get what you are hinting at because it just make sense for me that if ship was gonna explode in a middle of nowhere it would be when it was trying to do an FTL jump.

>besides, do you really expect amplitude NOT to include the vaulters in their game?
Well... They aren't present yet, so maybe? Mayhaps they realised they overfocus on them and decided that they can't treat them just like they do other factions so wrote it out of the universe entirely to avoid temptation to insert them.

>>180018832
If you are having problems having fun while playing faction with a hellgate, you are doing it wrong. The only problem with them is that they were too powerful.>>180019230

>>180019370
>>180019370
You know, it takes a special kind of bastrad, or mayhaps moron, to develop pacifist faction in such a way that the standard reaction to it is BURN IT ALL DOWN.

>>180019872
>You know, it takes a special kind of bastrad, or mayhaps moron, to develop pacifist faction in such a way that the standard reaction to it is BURN IT ALL DOWN.
Or perhaps genius social commentator.

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jesus, this nigga got big.

I still played for 80 turns more, until I finished the academy quest but didn't level him anymore.

probably could have gotten him to 55 or something.

>>180021695
there really should be a cap on hero levels

also as an aside, I think the horatio skill tree is sort of shit

>>180022550
There needs to be a rebalancing of hero xp gain imo. There's almost no reason to put a hero on a fleet when you can just powerlevel them as a governer until cap and then place them on a fleet once they have all the relevant fleet damage stuff. Vodyani heroes especially level too fast..I can never get the level 9 hero cheevo because my guy usually skips straight to 11 sometimes

>>180021695
really never understood why they let heroes level over what it takes to grab all the skillls

also, they should really give admirals more experience; as it is now, the xp gain differences are like the difference between the governor of a cultist and a general in EL

HOLY JESUS RIFTBORN SHIPS ARE SO FUCKING STRONG

[alpha striking intensifies]

>>180026549
small dick tho
>if he ain't got dust, I ain't got lust

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>>179981657
>play Lumeris
>can have as many ships as I want because I'm rich bitch
>play anyone else
>broke forever
>maybe 2 stacks of ships tops

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>>180026549
Riftborn are the most combat capable faction in the game, especially their support ships.

>load up 3 projectile improvement modules
>fill up defense with shields
>weaponry is full missiles
>tactics are long range buffs
>win every space battle
>take 0 damage
>then orbital strike every planet you attack
>instant supremacy win

>>180028758
Get gud

>>180028758
literally how are you always broke? just turn on the super tax act and get xenotourism and your dust concerns are covered for the forseeable future; if you start running into problems, get colonial exchanges, pulvis productions, and trade companies

or you could play cravers and not have to do anything to have three times the amount of ships as anyone else

>>180028758
go for trade companies

it's basically free money

Cravers need to be nerfed on anything above normal difficulty.

>>180029453
more like everyone else needs to be buffed on anything above normal difficulty, they're the only properly challenging enemy on endless

>mfw 1.0.16 vodyani hero
i hope this isnt intentional, the +4fids per pop per hero level on planet is dumb. Literally generating 700+ influence per turn
wtf

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>>180029531
look at this shit

>>180029850
>those icons
what's the minor faction stats?

So wair

Do the Vodyani build improvements on the systems or on their Arks?

Like say I anchor to a system, build a drone network, and then fuck off to another system, will I have the network or do I have to build it again?

>AI speeds across a huge empty part of space with just 5 movement points

Do the AI in ES2 get a movement boost on higher difficulties?

>>180031750
Arks

>>180032281
if, by empty part of space you mean non-starlane, then they probably had techs to improve their speed in deep space

If I declare war on an empire at the same time as another AI, do the planets occupied by the AI go to them instead? My wargoals are to cede all planets. This is Stellaris btw.

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Hi 4x,
cbg refugee here.
Does anyone make or is interested in high-detailed maps/scenarios for Pharaoh, Zeus or Emperor? Also, is it possible to have Emperor multiplayer in win10?

>>180036907
what the fuck is that

>>180037124

It's designed to keep women away from driving.

>>180036907
I'd like to answer your question, but it's 2 AM and your picture is giving me a headache.

>>180037124
Swindon city centre.

>>180031543
just a custom vodyani

>almost all the the aliens in ES2 are more alien than whatever you could design in Stellaris

what gives

>>180040042
French > Swedes

Is ES2 the meme game of the month? When are we going to go back to talking about civ and stellaris

>>180043930
>civ
never

>>180043930
>When are we going to go back to talking about civ
When it gets an expansion or notable DLC

>When are we going to go back to talking about stellaris
When have you niggas stopped?

>>180043930
>and stellaris
hopefully neve4r

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>tfw you will never save your people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM0JHl_EZJ8

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so i played the first 50 turns and advanced into the next age making a couple of my shit obsolete but whatever. what am i suppose to do exactly? im just building buildings and watching my cities grow. should i be stacking something? mass units and kill the other players?

>>180047410
sorry for the png, forgot to ask if i should dump this game and play endless space 2

>>180047410
just treat it like Civ V without having to worry about border expansion and combat isn't terrible

>>180047410
>that region size
>that city placement
play on regular region size and try not to put your city in the middle of a field because you'll get shit industry

also, explore WAY more and play something other than vaulters, they're a snoozefest

>>180047575
>combat isn't terrible

I hated the combat in EL

Everything else was so good but the combat made me want to die

>>180047575
>combat isn't terrible
It is terrible, in civ5 at least units are completely under your control.

>>180047690
what is so interesting about the other factions. in these games i ALWAYS play the most orderly human faction first

>>180047997
The Broken Lords are pretty great, the only resource you need to worry about is dust and they can grow as fast or as slow as you want.

>>180047997
>I'm a boring person
>why are things boring

live a little faggot

the only thing more boring than vaulters is wild walkers

play LotAP

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Hey! see the guy in this picture? He's trying to save his race from extinction.

Why don't you kill him and help his race along into the afterlife

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>>180047997
literally everything
>vaulters
just turtle alone, never interact with anyone else, and get a passive boring science victory
>wild walkers
okay, these guys are pretty much the only people who are about as boring as the vaulters, since they're the generic industry dudes
>broken lords
don't interact with food whatsoever, population costs upkeep, you can BUY population, your units have lifesteal
>necrophage
very bad at growing food, but are unique in that they're pretty much the only faction that actively THRIVES during wars of attrition, and in fact default to that in order to survive; gain food bonuses from killing enemies, can only be at cold war or war, can sacrifice their population to get happiness bonuses, big damage over time effects, cost-effective units, and can spawn fodder units from killing enemies
>roving clans
you can PICK UP YOUR CITIES AND MOVE THEM, allowing you to cut off enemies from expanding, reposition your city to more favorable locations for terrain or trade routes, or flat out get them out of danger; you can see every single marketplace transaction, gain a 10% cut of all deals made on the marketplace, and can flat out BAN PEOPLE FROM USING IT; all your units have cavalry speed and mercenaries from the marketplace have x3 health (synergizing with privateers, which lets you disguise mercenary-only armies as roaming minor faction hordes and ignore diplomatic relations), but you cannot declare war
>ardent mages
you can spend dust to drop down pillars that apply effects like increasing FIDSI, dealing damage to enemies, or speeding up allies on all adjacent squares, OR cast powerful, tactical magic in the midst of battle, while all of your units are super glass-cannons that deal exponentially more damage the more life they lose; their third unit can even resurrect after a battle
>cont

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>Find the extradimensional horror
>Leave it the fuck alone since I have like no fleet power
>Form federation
>Federation buddy SLAMS his fleet into the thing
>It mulches his fleet
>Get message "We are getting strange readings from X"
>Go look
>Get this
>IT FUCKING CAME THROUGH THE RIFT

W-what do I do?!?

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>>180049090
Welp I'm fucked

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>>180047997
>>180048945
>drakken
you can see every single faction's starting position from day 1, you can FORCE PEOPLE TO ACCEPT TRUCES, PEACE TREATIES, OR ALLIANCE INVITATIONS, and you produce a shitton of influence; your units are really beefy and you have a ton of flying units, and they all gain experience at insane rates
>cultists
one city challenge, but actually great; you spend influence to convert minor faction villages, which leech resources and FIDSI from their home region, give you an extra pop in your city, and produce free armies that snowball into giant waves of throwaway troops with an elite core of actual cultist units; any cities that you take get INSTANTLY RAZED and give you industry and science bonuses that scale with the population of the city
>forgotten (shadows expac)
all of your units are INVISIBLE and dual wield weapons, you can't interact with science at all and instead have to buy and steal technologies and you have amazing spies and hero synergy
>allayi (shifters expac)
very small number of cities, but your units are largely immune to terrain and have insane speed so you cover the entire map to grab every single pearl in the game; not only are you not really affected by winter (which hurts everyone else except for vaulters and high-level cultists really badly), but your units ACTIVELY GET STRONGER during winter, and you have the best military unit in the game
>morgawr (tempest expac)
stupidly broken, near-completely incontestable in the sea; translate naval dominance into a huge influence gain, which you use to put black spots (all other factions ignore diplomacy with that faction and gain dust from killing their units), MIND CONTROL minor faction units, and cause minor faction villages to un-pacify and start spawning units as you rise from the depths to sow havoc

you pretty much picked one of the only two bland and boring choices in the game

>>180047575
endless combat is civ5 combat tactical combat without civ5 strategical combat

>>180050630
wait did you have a stroke there anon

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which one do I pick?

>>180051982
actually nvm Chemical bliss sound retard

>>180052151
Chemical bliss has very fringe but powerful uses. Its almost never worth it though.

>>180046889
>not posting the ultimate depressing sci-fi music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWh9l8RSkPk

>>180051246
>being this retarded

>>180051982
atmospheric filtering

>>180052990
this
+5 Hab is the only really good option there

>>180053067
selected lineages can be good imo, but it's not as immediate

>>180053162
>playing with Imperial gov't
Its like you enjoy Influence stagnation

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MAKE CIV GREAT AGAIN

I had to set my date back a year to take this pic because Steam decided to fuck over a bunch of games including Civ5 by making it impossible to run them offline after the 14th.
gg valve, I was almost going to give you money next week

>>180053647
>Civ 5 is always online now

WHY

>>180054083
XCOM too, and Football Manager apparently
Probably a bunch of other stuff too

Googling it brought me to a reddit post which has since been deleted ;-))))))))))))))))
https://www.reddit.com/r/civ/comments/6hrww8/solution_for_anyone_trying_to_play_civ_5_with/
remember to spend lots of money during the summer sale ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))