/palg/ - Paladins General

I want to witness Fernando's muscles!

Are servers still down? What are they even doing?

It would be hilarious if Wolves picks up Bird and the boys.

>>176287969
It's back up, it was a scheduled maintenance apparently.

>>176287664
This looks a little bit like Massimo de Vita's art.

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>>176287664
Ying would fit well in the Samurai Jack art-style.

Why is WIllo so bad?

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I want to have a loving relationship with Kinessa!

Who has best heals?

is there any way to gift crystals to someone?

>>176293510
Seris, sort of.
Her single-target heals beat out everyone in the game, but it's got less utility than aoe
Best aoe healer is Mal'Damba iirc

>>176293745
In terms of ease of use and range? Yeah, if you go full healslut. But by the numbers alone, she only has 500HPS which loses to both Mal and Ying's basic loadout.

>>176294074
Intermittent 1000 HPS is still a higher rate than constant 280 HPS
Ying can't stack illusions with her base loadout and Mal'Damba can only for a few seconds stack healing to beat the 500 HPS Seris evens out to once you invest in her legendary and whatever the fuck card it is to drop her cooldown.

And even if you do stack Ying illusions, her healing rate is 490 HPS. Which is less than Seris.

Which map(s) do you hate the most?
Ice Mines and Fish Market can go fuck themselves imo

>>176294406
Where did you get your numbers from? Mal Damba stacks his heals with the basic loadout and Ying starts with 8 Seconds duration, a 2 point card will give her 100% uptime. There is no way Seris can heal better than both of them in an environment where they only need to spam their heal abilities. The pocket healing is still better in competitive though.

>>176294468
We have the sames, also Timber Mill and Brightmarsh are kinda eugh.

>>176295057
Mal'Damba healing is 280 per second fdm either source, with constant uptime on mending spirits.
Combined with the gourd you have 4.8 seconds of stacked healing (560 total), and 5 seconds of just mending spirits due to cooldown (I can't remember if the cooldown starts ticking while the gourd is active, but this is assuming it does. Otherwise cooldown is 10 seconds)
If you average this out it's 420HPS (or less depending on how gourd cooldown works)

Ying has a flat 350HPS, single-target healing that automatically seeks out the best target.
With stacking, this reduces each by 30% but doubles the sources, which gives you 490HPS

I didn't say Seris could heal better than either of them, and flat-out said she has worse utility. But her single-target rate of healing is the best in the game.
And I grabbed these numbers off the wiki.

What do you guys think of Arid V2?

>>176296017
i like it a lot

>>176294468
Stone keep and timber mill

Downloaded this game yesterday, i like viktor cus aiming in combat is essential for me, how's the hero?

>>176296776
Solid all around, especially early on in lower elos where he doesn't get punished for standing in the open doing his thing. If you really want to test your aim, get good at androxus who's useful at all levels and in any meta, and just generally carries harder.

>>176294468
Ice guards and Frog isles, they're the worst.

>>176297715
Ice guard is the worst map in the game without a doubt. From the awful placement of the point, to the lack of flank routes, to the fact that you can be de-horsed from the point a mile away, it's just cancer.

>>176293467
if you have a vagina and are a redhead she might just pitty fuck you while she thinks about cassie

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Oh, so that's how they pay their dev team.

>>176293467
I want to send all the Kinessa players I get matched with to an aim training mode

>>176299491
>700 chests for a common item
Jesus christ

>>176293510
depends what elo you have >2500 damba <2500 ying <2000 seris
>mfw ppl will argue about this

>>176299639
They're all competitively viable with a good team, so you're absolutely right people will argue about it.

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>>176299582
doesnt sound rigged to me at all

>>176296017

doorways are too small and lead to claustrophobic fights

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I'm only having fun when I win
but I'm bad at videogames

Grohk ultimate should give him 10% damage reduction for the duration also he should get a small amount of bonus damage from his Lightning staff on targets slowed by the Shock Pulse

>>176302165
He should just be invincible during his ult. It's not like it does fuck all anyways. He really doesn't need any better dueling power though.

Is Viktor complete shit or am i bad with him. Always getting fucked by flanks no matter what and his damage seems low compared to others.

>>176304860

His DPS is respectable, but it's sustained rather than burst-as such, he can seem weak compared to characters who deal hundreds of damage with a single shot.

>>176304860
You're a baddie. If you start shooting first Vik wins vs almost anyone in a head to head, except vs like fusillade Drogoz and maybe BK. His escape is meh though and if you don't shoot first you can end up in trouble. Pay more attention to flankers audio cues.

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This will be your support tonight

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>>176305825

I can live with that.

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High elo player here, ask me anything.

>>176306176
What's the way to build Willo for when you don't need max dead zone with scorched earth? Flitter and flora 4 with blast flower?

>>176306176
no

>>176302935
I'd make it heal him too when it attacks and when it heals (even if there's no target). Making him just invincible is kind of boring.

>>176302137
>I'm only having fun when I win
That's a sign of a bad game mate

>>176306176
Which frontline/support do you main?

>>176306176

What champions do you love to play? Are there any champions you hate playing against?

>>176306176

Unless you are 3.5k+ your opinion means shit

>>176290174
Is Tumblr freaking out about her being a racist caricature fantasy made by a white man yet?

>>176306176
>sub 4k shitter thinks he's high elo

>>176306537

You mean they weren't before?

>>176299526
You'd never see them again. We're talking about the guys who can't hit a turret, right?

>>176306606
I figured if they were, I'd have heard about it already.

>>176306430
That could work too if the values were upped. It's just such a bad ult though I don't know what would make it salvageable.

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>>176305825
Every time.

>>176306176
Will Paladins ever have as much futa content as Smite ?

>>176306515
>most pros are around 3100-3400
>only the best of the best pros have more than 3500

>>176306649
I'm not sure it's really meant to be very powerful offensively. I think of it more as being a moving totem.

What do you guys feel about this slight buff to a legendary:

Makoa (Leviathan)

+1500 hp (current effect) + CC immunity while using ultimate

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>>176306893

But anon, then people couldn't destroy all your hopes and dreams.

>>176307051
But i mean its a decent idea isnt it?

A leviathan shouldn't be converted into a chicken when he attains his final most powerful form.

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>>176305825
Want to trade?

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Why do people care about ranked play in a buggy and poorly balanced beta? I go and grif ranked matches as Inara just to tell whiners this.

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>>176307195

Yeah, it's decent. And it is kind of silly how many ways there are to shut down a character claiming "I cannot be stopped" during his ult.

But I still find it grimly hilarious that Makoa's vulnerable during Ancient Rage now. Especially when characters like Cassie get CC immunity during their ults.

>>176307195
Nothing is ever allowed to stop the chickening. It's not even treated like CC. You can't reduce its duration properly like you can with a damba ult, or use a totem to cuck him out of it like a Torv ult. Pips ult is dumb as fuck.

>>176307498
Because it's the only way to play draft, and because normally teams don't meme it up.

>>176307498
Because it's always going to be buggy and poorly balanced, might as well start caring now if you're ever going to care.

Should I unlock bomb king for my first character he looks fun

>>176308847
He's the most powerful character in the game so go ahead.

how the fuck does anyone play BK without jolt

I just tried it and whenever I threw down a poppy bomb, 50% of the time it just disappeared because of some random AOE

>>176308847
Solo Q? Don't even bother.

>>176309529
>Don't even bother
BK can carry in solo queue if you can aim though.

Casualfag here.

So tanks are essentially worthless now right?

Only tank worth a shit is Makoa for his DPS and hook. Apart from that there's simply too many ways to destroy shields in 1-2 seconds for shields to be even remotely viable.

Next patch better fix this shit.

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>>176308847
Nope, wait till you get a feel for the game, i'd buy Buck to be honest he's a total beast with the right deck.

The best tip i could give you about him is to always keep one jump in case of emergency, only burn that emergency jump if you're certain that no one can flank you and that by jumping in you can secure one or two easy kills.

that's the best deck i've done

>>176309962
I mean they're still tanks so they can be a brick wall anyway with a healer, they're just weak. No other class can tank still though except for maybe a couple of healers.

Also you can play tanks just fine in pubs and comp.

>>176309962
No. Double tank is still generally king, regardless of how fast shields go down. Generally outside of pro play you want the team with the ruckus+1 though. People suck at following up on Makoa hooks. Single tank is sketchy because if they have a ruckus+1 your tank gets bullied right off the point. 2 damage 1 flank can potentially work, but it's also putting a lot of faith in potential shit carries.

>be bomb king
>use poppy bomb
>activate ult midair
>fall off a ledge

It should be embarrassing but it makes me laugh like an idiot every time

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>>176309962
I just started playing last week and absolutely destroy people as Barik because low levels are damn retarded and don't kill my turrets

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>>176311017

>Evie tries to kite around the point with Blink/Soar
>mfw I'm playing turret Barik

How many levels does it take to collect all cards, would you say?

Best tip for any nando players out there.

Switch your fireball bind to one of your mouse's thumb buttons and observe how you hit all your fireballs from now on.

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>>176306385
Just max that seedling CDR, that's where most of your damage comes from, Flutter CDR might work too if you play behind the enemy lines/ want to have an easier escape/faster positioning, the Just Believe! card is a must if you want to constantly dominate the point. Don't forget to shoot the seedlings behind your enemy. AND NEVER TRY TO 1V1 ANYONE, YOU WILL GET DELETED UNLESS YOU ARE PRETTY GOOD AT LANDING THE BLASTS, focus on chipping away the enemy from a safe place first and then engage.

>>176306479
>FL
Makoa: Since everyone in high elo knows how to capitalize on a hook, it's literally the easiest way to delete any champ without repercussions (unless it's another FL or a Cassie.)
>Support
Damba: Aggresive support, high base movespeed, tiny hitbox, low cd pocket heal with infinite range, easy sustain with the Ritual Magic card, free stuns every 3 seconds, 40% slow, can 1v1 any flank (Yes, even Lex) or supports (Maybe except for Seris) and a few damagers like Vik and Tyra.

>>176306480
I love playing as Sha Lin (with a flank build he's quite scary), Tyra (Can technically 1v1 any champ with no problems), Kinessa ( knowing that both the enemy flank and the damager are coming for you at the start of every round is quite thrilling) and Maldamba.

>>176306689
Anything is fine for me as long as it's not furryshit

>>176306548
>>176306515
I'm top 250, I'm getting closer and closer every day but I'm just another solo player, I rarely play duo.
Then again, most of the pros just play on 2-3man premades to maintain their ELO.

>>176306783
I have 3k Elo and I am bad.

>>176313074
How do I deal with flankers as Kinessa
I can land my shots all fucking day but jesus christ I never know how to deal with people sneaking up on my ass
Even if I notice them immediately they've got the jump on me and I just die with that health pool

>>176313172
how do u win more than u lose with how many shit fucking players there are out there

>>176307195
Ya this is dumb.

>>176310935
Dem clips son

>>176311017
To bad he is crippled at high levels now.

>>176310935
been there done that. real bad feeling when it happens.

>>176313317
I carry somehow, but more often than not I am facing teams with multiple 2.5k+ elo players.

>>176313074
> High elo player
> Most of willos damage is seedlings

What? Unless you're bouncing them off a cliff ledge that shit is just pure gambling and coming up with nothing most of the time. I agree on the never stick around for a 1v1 though. I don't think math wise she beats anyone.

>>176313295
Get a nice pair of headphones, spam mines near the obvious flank points of every map, Prodigy III/IV gives you a little boost when you jump and use your scope at the same time, helps you juke enemy shots when at close range, Restore IV is a must if you want to have a chance to fight the flanker, after casting Transporter, try to make your character look away in any other direction to confuse your enemy.
Kinessa has 100% accuracy even when jumping, abuse that with the Prodigy card, don't be afraid shoot mid-charge if you know the enemy is getting away.
Master Riding is a godsend if you are getting killed way too often, it will force the flank ignore the other healer/damager, If you do good, the enemy flank will start to ignore you.
NEVER PLAY WITH HER ON JAGUAR FALLS

>>176312945
I use my thumb button for F abilities and Middle Mouse Button for Ultimate it just feels better than QEF

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>>176314049
Assuming that the point is being disputed by both tanks, throwing a seedling at the back of the FL/near the supp + dead zone will make the support retreat for about 2-3 seconds, enough time for you or for your flank/damager to finish off the healer even before the enemy team can realize what's happening.

> Torvald has a 66% win rate in siege

How do we stop this old pervert?

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>>176315790
>buy wrecker
>FUCKING SHOOT HIM

My friend is a Torvald main and he says it's funny to play him because people literally just ignore Torvald while he walks into their face because they see a big beam attached to them and just run away to fight someone else.

I've been in matches where I'm dominating the entire enemy team alone except for the tank because I'd expect my allies to take care of him while I keep a line ahead of the objective. I'd end up noticing that they are literally just letting the Torvald run in circles around the cart and contest it instead of simply shooting him. It blows my mind.

This game sucks, OB50 when

>>176316326
your mom sucks so stfu kid

>>176316387

He's right though. This patch is shit. Probably one of the worst balanced patches throughout all of OB.

>>176316878
Then OB is going pretty well.

>>176316387
Yeah she does, she can only win as BK nowadays it's kinda sad.

why doesn't fraps or OBS work anymore
is this the work of the EAC devil

>>176317726
How is it fucking up for you?

>>176317913
fraps doesn't take screenshots, OBS recordings are just black, but have sound

>it's a "nobody can hit the nimble 3 skye" episode

>>176318356
obs is always a piece of shit to get working. try closing the game and obs then reopen obs first then the game and use window capture and see if it works

Any notorious cheaters I should look out for?

I feel like theres a cheater every two games, but I can never really tell.

>>176318648
no, it's not. fraps and OBS were working fine before the most recent set of patches. I can do a monitor capture and record the game in windowed mode, it just doesn't work in fullscreen. get a better anticheat you fucking jews

>>176320048
there's this wallhacking mermoco guy that has never been banned

and ezho is a notorious aimbotter

>>176320792
don't forget that script kiddie nionai

>>176320048
All the pros are aimbotting, according to people here.

>>176321162
I don't know anything about the pro scene. Just want to know if there are any infamous cheaters in casual that I should look out for/report.

>>176315790
We make autobuy less retarded, so it will actually buy wrecker for idiots that still have it on.

>>176316169
The bubble has hypnotic properties sending the subliminal message "don't but wrecker, don't shoot me" to enemy players. It's surprising how people seem to get actively stupider around Torvald.

Bonus points if you have a Viktor on your team that buys Deft Hands.

>>176310395
Does stomping ground still give you two jumps back?

>>176321990
nope but it gives one back iirc

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>tfw you try to carry but the shitters on your team drag you down

>>176321863
>The bubble has hypnotic properties sending the subliminal message "don't but wrecker, don't shoot me"
>whenever you play Torvald there is always 5 wreckers in the enemy team and their Drogoz maxes out Morale Boost

>>176322760
I know, it's pain. Ha ha ha it feels like a coin flip whenever I play him.

>>176322760

Well, yeah. You didn't think they were talking about when YOU play him, did you, anon?

>>176322132
>tfw stomping ground is 'fixed' but Andro's power of the abyss is not
Fucking dev's pet.

Jesus fuck, I hate Frog Isle map .It's easily the worst map in the game.

>>176322248
>mermoco tries to blame others for using Kinessa
>this is mermoco

>>176310395
For these cards, are "kills" final blows (i.e. "Slayed BitchPlayer420") or do elims count as well?

>>176323490
You must play some shitty characters to not enjoy a death bowl with plenty of cover over king of the hill with fuck all for cover. You a tank main anon, or do you just want people to come into your circle?

Why is it that this game has so many retards in it? I've been playing MMOs and shit for decades. It may be I'm just getting older but I've never seen so many pants-on-head idiots all at once in a LOOOONG ass time. Not even in old korean MMOs

>>176321738
I'm still not sure how retardobuy happened. It seems like a really easy flowchart.

>>176323734
Frog Isle is, for some reason, a stomp. You either win 4/0 or you lose 0/4, there's no room to make mistakes once the ball gets rolling.
Also I play Maeve and I have a HARD as fuck time to get behind the lines and kill the squishies.

>>176323740
dude free overwatch

>>176323740
Two reasons that I can think of:
1. This game is free, so a shitload of idiots that normally wouldn't touch it say "fuck it" and hop on
2. Directly related to point 1, there are a TON of Brazilian etc. players. And they are 90% of the time the worst goddamn players you will see in your life.

>>176323740
MMOs are harder to be revealed as an idiot. FPSs have a lot more to deal with.

Also, free game.

>>176297715
This man speaks of truths.

>>176323872
> Playing Maeve
> On a map where everyone is near a team mate or cover, or is flying all over as Drogoz and BK

Until they buff Maeve there's really no point in that. That's a character issue not a map issue.

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>>176287664
Just bought Overwatch, I've seen at the most 5 minutes of gameplay, and I have 400 hours in Paladins what am I in for?

>>176324746
A slower paced game with meat grinder choke points, and Lucio with a 100% pick rate every game every patch.

>>176324746
slow gameplay, lack of customization, and roughly the same amount of mediocre balance. It's pretty mediocre.
The characters are a lot more fuckable, though.

lieterally how do you get good at this game

how does anyone have 70%+ winrate

what the FUCK am i doing wrong???????

>>176325179
You're not memestacking, son.

That's literally it.

>>176324746

Better visual/audio polish, fewer bugs, maps feeling a little more cramped but feeling like it takes longer to get back to the frontline, fighting for healthkits instead of disengaging for a few seconds, slower development cycles, no items/ability customization beyond cosmetics, but your teammates can change characters mid-game if it becomes obvious they suck ass at their chosen roles.

You might like it better, you might not.

>>176324854
And fewer updates. They listen to the community a bit more, but Paladins is getting another half dozen champs at least this year and OW might get one or two.

>>176323643
If it says kill an elimination will suffice, if it says killing blow you need to slay them.

>>176325287
>teammates can change characters mid-game if it becomes obvious they suck ass at their chosen roles.
Honestly, I'm not sure if this is good or bad.

>>176324746
A better game

>>176325492
It's basically insignificant. I mean it lets you get away with stuff like trying to meme someone with a bastion+rein combo and then switching when they catch on. Generally people just play one champ all offense or defense, or at least all point long.

>>176325492

There's a bit of a give and take to it. On the one hand, people might change to more useful characters as the situation demands. On the other, they might get bored/throw a fit/hear commands from beyond the stars and drop a vitally important role for something else.

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>>176324850
Hes the black one right? How is that different than paladins?

>>176324850
>and Lucio with a 100% pick rate every game every patch.
lol

>>176326315
In paladins you don't need a Ying every game. I've played plenty with pip, Grohk and Grover healers. In overwatch, even at the casual level, you NEED Lucio or your team will be slow to the point, not have an aoe heal and not be able advance/retreat as fast. His speed boost makes him a mandatory pick on offence or koth

>>176327114
lmao

Can someone explain this game's hitreg?

HItscan is just fine but i've airshotted people as Drogoz, the fucking rocket explodes on their model and no damage is registered, how is that FUCKING FAIR GOD FUCKING DAMNIT.

This happens 50% of the times i airshot someone.

>>176328169
Hi-Rez Studios

>>176328169
That happens because only our did-nothing-wrong golden boy Bomb King deserves the explosive projectile lag compensation, Champion!

~pk

>>176328169
On that same note, can someone explain the hitboxes in general for this game
Why are they so fuckin big

>>176328714
because Pip and Willo exist

>>176328748
Willo has huge wings. It's Evie and Maeve that would be cancerous with model accurate hitboxes.

>>176328934
>shoot Willo's wings
>she can't fly until respawn

Make it happen, Hi-Rez.

>>176328714
>We can't make hitboxes too precise because that would encourage cheating, and not allow people to play with a controller
- Drybear

https://www.dailystarph.com/paladins-game-skins-and-codes-for-xbox-one-ps4-revealed-tempo/

few more skins being given out if anyone didn't snag any from the previous giveaways

>>176329427
Holy hell that's an annoying way to give them away

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>>176329365
>accurate hitboxes encourage cheating
You what now
Tell me that's not real

>>176325282
What is memestacking?

>>176330813
partying with other people, usually a full 5-man team and having some way to communicate (skype, discord, etc.) and queueing up in casual so you can steamroll fo dayz

>>176329924
https://youtu.be/ZMHnh2zEfGQ?t=1051

What is wrong with this game? No really, one game I'm having a good time, winning or even losing but having a good time, and the next game is a complete and UTTER stomp that goes 0/4 in 5 minutes as if the game never actually happened, with 24 streak skyes and some obnoxious stuff happening all around.

It has happened in the last few days mostly, I've noticed. Since... friday maybe? IDK, it feels like a new issue, these utter stomps and annoying shit when nothing goes well at all. I don't mind losing when I deserve to lose, but these stomps are impossible, it's like going "hmm, what should I do now? I know, waste 15 minutes of my life running from spawn to point a few times". It feels like you do less damage, the enemies move faster, it's all around worse.

This is happening once every 2-3 games or so, it's like the game demands you to lose once in a while and puts you against some hyper advanced autoaiming AI with 2x on all stats.

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what did they mean by this?

>>176331084
Forced fiddy.

>>176331005
Ah the infamous "banning 3-5 people a minute" dev insight

>>176331153
God, the cosmetics in this game are so lazy.

>>176331195
can't be it. I'm playing casual. It's impossible to have a good game and immediately after an absolute utter stop without a chance of winning. I've never seen this issue in any game so far, and I played all type of shit from CS to LOL and shit. Even if the gamer forces me to play against better players, I don't feel like the difference should be so abysmally high.

One game it's all normal, then the next game we're 99% on point when suddenly, out of nowhere, their Skye pulls a penta without ult. I shit you not, I didn't even think it's possible. Shouldn't she at least reload?
And going from 3/0 to suddenly, out of absolutely nowhere, 3/4 and lose. IDK what's happening, something seems fishy in the last patch

I feel this is a new issue, I don't remember having this before.

>>176331591
>can't be it. I'm playing casual.

believe it or not, that changes nothing.

>>176331084
as a 2400 elo player earlier i got matched with a 4000 elo player and i literally got raped. never felt so fucking powerless in my life.

why is the matchmaking in this game cancer as aids?

>>176331925
Because you're both in the top 1%. Either get better or tank your elo/smurf

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>>176331084
Oh you won 5 games in a row? That's too much winning, better put you on a team of complete retards against against a premade pro team to even the scales.

>>176331084
Forced 50 kicking in and putting you against high elo players.

>>176329427
Thank you!

>>176320792

Wallhacking and Aimbotting seem to be pretty common in casual.

>>176332773
I've never understood the point of aimbotting when you can just toggle a triggerbot with much less chance of getting caught

But either way, I haven't actually seen many (blatant) aimbots or wallhackers lately, and I exclusively play casual.

There's so many little shits playing this game, that even 1 player replying something, anything in chat once every 100 games seems godsend and I instantly have a crush on them.
I feel like a recluse suddenly be given attention.

>>176320048
Kid called CombatGoddess aimbots pretty obviously at times but only against the players who beat him if he's playing legit.

>mfw all the Overwatch streamers that played this game stopped playing it at the same time
mmmm.....

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>>176334069

Which champion from each class are you most relieved to see picked on your team?
Which makes you want to throttle the person who picked them?

>>176335803
Not fucking Skye or Kinessa, that's for sure.

>>176335803
relieved? Usually Drogoz, i can always appreciate some splash from Drogoz and his ultimate.

The ones that make me wanna dodge are: inara, maeve, skye, solo grohk

>>176335803
>Love seeing as teammates
Makoa
Maldamba
BK
Drogoz
Evie
Kinessa (either he's good or he's a fucking nuisance that makes the whole game a 4v5)
Androxus (same as above)

>Hate
Fernando
Grohk
Skye
Viktor
Tyra ( I have her in grandmaster, I know when a good Tyra can play, and 9 out of 10 are complete shit who don't know about her juke abilities)

>>176324746

A game where you are required to play two healers and they only give you four to pick from.

A game entirely about choke points.

A game where maximizing ult charge is the main component of the game, and you can't reliably expect to kill people without it.

A game where even if you do kill people, the enemy can mass resurrect them.

> it's a Seris doesn't heal the carries episode

I really love playing Seris but fuck I think I've only had one player play her right yet on my team

>>176332213
This actually happens, and it is retarded as shit.

>>176336149
>Hate
>Fernando
Those two words do not compute with one another.

>>176337756
>implying that Fernando doesn't drag the team he's on down

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>>176337756

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>tfw your team's damba gets deft hands 3 when he already gets 20% from his deck

those poor credits. is it really some ancient secret that reload speed is capped at +60%?

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>>176338101
Considering most people don't even bother looking in the options or reading up skills? May as well be, since it's not actually directly stated anywhere.

>>176338101
Where does it say that? I keep seeing that repeated here but I've never seen that anywhere in the game.

>>176338101
Devs don't explain stuff to people. I'm sure the majority don't know how movement speed bonuses don't work either.

>>176339134
I've seen the movement speed thing explained with one of those quotes they have on the loading screen.

>>176336149
>(either he's good or he's a fucking nuisance that makes the whole game a 4v5)
Drop the mines nonstop and hit enough shots to be considered cover fire and I'll be happy. The mines are a huge pain in the ass when you can never seem to get rid of them.

>>176339416

Are Oppressor Mine builds any good, or are you dumb if you don't focus on the rifle itself?

>>176337361
It's a damn waste of time.
As soon as you spot you're put in such a disadvantaged team you might as well AFK

who /pro gamer/ here, bros?
http://paladins.guru/profile/pc/feelsorrytoyou/casual

>>176336149
Skye is life why do you hate her? just curious desu

>>176339946
The mines are good, but they're not good enough to build a loadout around.
the way I see it, if you know you're gonna land your shots, then the sniper legendaries and cards are way too good to pass up
and if you don't think you're gonna land your shots, practice until you can because that's the whole point of kinessa

that said, if you have a free point, adding a single point filler card to increase your mine count by one is pretty nice, and doesn't detract from your sniper much at all

>>176338591
The easiest way to tell is that kinessa's kill-to-reload card stacks, but won't stack beyond 60% once you add it up
Try it out in the training area.

>>176335803
Skye and Marve gone is happy days for me, that and Grover.

>I have a heal, and a cripple
>should I go in and help the frontliner, he's needs some healing
>nah I'll go pretend I with with Cripple Axe when I specced healing

That and Viktors, because Viktors buy Deft Hands, and then wonder why everyone hates them when their bonus damage doesn't do dick.

>>176341046
She's too predictable on high ELOs, she has no mobility at all, no verticality, her damage becomes shit at mid range, no sustain, crappy movespeed, her escape (Smoke Screen) is a double edged sword.
Picking any flank other than will increase your chances of winning.

>>176339134
Devs don't remember it themselves
>tfw Basic Lex loadout has two separate movement cards for some reason

does resilience affect deadzone?

>>176343531
Nope.

>>176343573
gay

>>176343953
True.

> last pick is a 1500 elo kinessa
> On ice mines

At least it went fast

>>176345538
Why are those shitters always choosing Kinessa, Maeve or Skye?

>>176346409
Skye and Kinessa are free, Maeve is weeb.

>>176346409
Once in a blue moon, even the most braindead of retards will click on someone with kinessa or bumble into someone with 20hp as skye and get a kill. This is the only way they ever accomplish anything so they get positive reinforcement for playing it.

>New players start with 8 champions unlocked by default for free: Cassie, Drogoz, Fernando, Kinessa, Pip, Skye, Tyra and Viktor.

What did hi-rez mean by this

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>>176347441
>5 damage
>1 flank
>1 support
>1 frontliner

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>>176347441
>fantasy class based fps
>three (3) fucking cowadoody characters you have to grind out games on to unlock anyone fun or unique

>>176328527
>tfw Pixie shitposts so much that you aren't sure if this a shitposter pretending to be Pixie or the real Pixie shitposting

There's no more crystal reward quests?

>>176347441
No Ying? Someone's pushing their Waifu Tyra hard.

Have they fixed the fps or does this game still run like shit

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>>176349775

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>takes 20 fucking years to unlock a character
>cant change mid mach
>all defaults are boring shit
Who designed this shit it's basically how to not sell a game: the beta

>>176349052
The only quest awarded with crystals was PvE one.

>>176347904
On paper it makes sense, start with the most common archtypes to ease people into the style.

>>176350314
>cant change mid match
this is a good thing though

>>176350314
>cant change mid mach

I agree. You have no idea if you tank is a 8yo kid or your damage guys will fight forward after clean the objective.

>>176350314
>REE I can't switch to the counter of my counter that he switched to when I switched to the counter to his counter! REEEEEEE I DON'T WANT TO GET GOOD

>>176351770
Who are you quoting

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>>176351770

>>176351849
a retarded overwanker

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>jee I wonder if tonight my game will be a 5v5!
>Ruckus never even connects and the bot sits in spawn the entire time

This happens so often the game is pretty much unplayable right now. I really like this game but in the last 20 game play hours I put into it maybe 3-5 of it was actual 5v5s. I'm not even exaggerating at how often it happens.

Its probably because I only play during the late evening but its disappointing.

>you faggots told me not to buy bomb king
>do it anyways
>haven't lost a match yet
>can solo 4 players and play obj easily
Fuck u faggots

>>176354951
We were trying to save your soul before you would sell it to op champions, you fool.

>unlock new character
>can't actually use them effectively until you grind out 10 more chests to buy a half-decent legendary and loadout
Essence was a fucking mistake.

>>176353808
Late nights are fucking wild, only 3 people load in, 1 sits in spawn writing until game kicks him out for being afk, random BRs and so on.

So this guy is intentionally throwing games to keep his elo low, right?

http://paladins.guru/profile/pc/xlDADDYlTRUMPlx/ranked

>>176355489
Maybe he's only good with Lex and no one else.

>>176355489
looks like a smurf who played other champs just to be able to play ranked with lex, for some reason

>>176350932
>guy picks seris
>I'm last pick so I go tank
>we get shredded
>seris healed 1200 the entire game

>>176354951
New players tend to be shit with him.

Just started playing this again. Haven't played since the first month.

Any heroes worth buying or using? I main pip and Viktor right now.

>1 afk
>2 afk
>5v5 that was 3/3 close game
>1 afk

This is giving me flashbacks to Wildstar battlegrounds on release

>>176357784
Pip and Vik are good. BK, Drogoz, Androxus are top tier rn.

>>176357981
I have 20k gold right now so I'll check them out as well.

I forgot how fun it actually is. But I still need to unlock competitive

>>176358295
If you are going for the comp, then check out Makoa too, he's the best tank. Might come in handy.

>>176357784
Aerial assault Ruckus is where it's at

>>176358498
Makoa is not the best tank. He's just first pick in pro play for the hook. Ruckus plus any other tank is what wins games. Torv also has a sky high win rate in regular play as well.

>>176358664
>torv
Not while wrecker exists

Ruckus is just fantastic if he has a decent comp to back him up though, you're entirely right about that.

>>176358798
>implying your average player buys wrecker

Even then his ult will solo carry you to wins. He is obnoxiously easy to win games. Ruckus is still good since you can just do all the DPS yourself but Torvald is a top guy for a reason.

>>176324746
more fuckable characters with shit characterization
terrible maps
getting bored after 20 hours(at this point you pretty much know everything about the game since the mechanics are extremely shallow)

>>176359319
Ok for real why are Paladins characters so unfuckable
Look at Ruckus, dude is unholy
And Willo is some sort of imp I swear
Let's not even get started on Sha Lin

Where did it go so wrong

>>176359426
I'd fuck Seris, if you know what I mean.

>>176359426
the 3d models are okay(unless youre ruckus,that cunt is a fucking abortion no matter what),but the official art makes them look way uglier

>>176359426
>Let's not even get started on Sha Lin
You need the link posted again?

what's the best ying legendary? lifelike?

>>176359426
>Let's not even get started on Sha Lin
>/palg/ay's laughter in the distance

>>176360429
Focusing lens unless you have two tanks. Then maybe lifelike.

>>176360429
The double healing one without a doubt.

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Fucking finally got Inara to level 10. Being the dumb ass I am I decided to get all FL/Support to 10 before playing the other shit just for the sake of it.

>>176360429
Focusing Lens and Resonance. Lifelike only worth it with two FL ever since the nerf. Oh how naive people were during those days, only a few months ago but it feels like TTK has been sliced in half.

>>176360429
Focus lens I guess.
Lifelike reduces healing by 30% but doubles available sources.
In order to make best use of this both MUST be up or you're just shooting yourself in the foot
So due to the short window both illusions are alive for, combined with needing to put both in close proximity to each other, plus the just overall increased difficulty of keeping big alive, it becomes not worth it.
Life like has the best peak heals, in that for a few seconds you can reach 490HPS, her highest possible value.
But at all other times you will be performing significantly worse than normal with only one illusion active, which means any other legendary is best for the sake of consistency.

How to kill a jumping Maeve?

>>176360863
With a gun, preferably.

>>176359426
>Ok for real why are Paladins characters so unfuckable
So they are more relatable to you, Anon.

>>176360863
you aim at her and shoot

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>>176287664
I wish people like Ying were real.. I could do literally anything to her in bed and then it would all be undone in an instant since it was just a clone and Ying would get off to the sight of me and her clone because she's into cuckolding.

>>176336149
>juke abilities

stop

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>>176359426
>Let's not even get started on Sha Lin
Where to even begin.

>>176360429
Resonance. Lifelike is shit and don't believe what anyone says.

>>176361540
Not him but you can kite pretty well if you go Tyra with nimble and life rip since you're moving fast as balls and draining peoples' hp while doing it.

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>>176362049
>fast as balls

should i get barik, ml'damba , or torvald next

>>176362049
Those aren't jukes or abilities.

>>176362407
Barik.

>>176362407
mal'damba

question from a noob here, i usually do kind of well in games(casual siege) then there are days were i destroy everyone and days were i suck ass, does this depend on anything? (i did notice that when i drink some hard liquor i actually get better, something do do with anxiety and shaking hands maybe) any tips? suggestions? git gud fag? does it depend on who im fighting?

>>176363615
If you play at this time of the postings then its pretty much all shit skins. Easy mode compared to prime time

>>176363615
Some people believe in a thing called 'forced 50%'.
Don't use alcohol as a helping tool too often, or you will get too used to it.

>>176364041
This game doesn't have force 50% unless you're legitimately shit at the game. I mainly play this game intoxicated as fuck but I couldn't get below 55-60% win rate without intentionally throwing games.

Why anyone would play this garbage sober is beyond me.

>>176363929
i play when i can, when is it prime time for EU?

>>176364404
Whatever the fuck dinner time is for you.

On NA I only play play past 11pm est and its all Spanish all the time.

>>176364538
now that you mention it after dinner is indeed a good time to play, rest of the day its all russians and spaintards

>>176364720
This game population is very small compared to other major titles so you really only face the main nerds of a region that is in the sun. Retard neets like myself are fairly rare in comparison.

Nothing more satisfying then beating a guy who is obviously aimbotting with a 5dps comp. I had my doubts but along with the shady kill cams his entire history is hitscan only.

How sad

>>176367735
The good thing about paladins is that the time to kills are slower than TF2 or Overwatch and you can buy resistance items, so even if there IS an aimbotter you can still beat them with enough coordination.

i finally got my last hero up to level 4. what is comp like guys?

>>176369485
Same as casual, only angrier and without mirror picks.

>>176369485
>>176370636
And if you end last you have to play tank or supp

>>176369485
Everyone is obsessed with going double tank.

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>>176369485
you will either get an absolute shit team or the best team ever.

>>176372073
This+100000

>>176372517
Took a week to get to 3800, went back to 3690 in a day filled with no wrecker and double flank will work guys and androxius is my main so dont worry

>>176373794
Why it's always Androxus that can't kill enemy Drogoz? Every time.

>>176374593
ive heard some people say that a good drogoz can counter an androxus?

is there any truth to this because every time i play drogoz against a good andro he just flies up to me and shoots me and dashes around me and just fucks my shit senpai. andro just seems to hard counter drogoz?

>>176375160
I think Andro in general has an advantage because of the fact he's hitscan and more mobile than Drogoz. So yeah, he is a hard counter.

Sometimes I have games where my whole team is just so bad and we are down 3-0 until we stop the payload and then it's like a whole new team and we all start kicking ass and win 4-3

>>176375160
I've had games with and against drogoz that could land all direct hits and they basically carried the game on their own, its bullshit to get anywhere near them

>>176376339
Ive had that like twice in 400 hours. I'm usually tilted off the face of the earth at my teams failure of a flank by that point though.

>>176377882
>i'll flank couse im pro at it guys

>>176360429
Lifelike if you have 2 tanks.

Lenses if you aim well and can utilize it.

Resonance with Harmony and Encourage IV if you want to dominate on the point.

>>176377882
>guys you need to GET ON THE POINT
>"no i flank"

How do you beat SKYE using Maeve?

>>176379716
Take triple jump and just ignore her worthless ass?

>>176379716
The way you would deal with anyone else, if you see her vulnerable then you pounce on her. Otherwise ignore and run like your life depends on it.

how comes i get totally annihilated by maeve whenever i fight one in 1v1? i take her down to almost dead and she just refills herself to full and kills me, this is without talking about all the fucking jumping around

>>176381319
Because your aim is bad and you didn't buy cauterize

>>176381431
sounds about right actually, how do i improve my aim? other than playing the game

>>176381476
always try to put your aim at the enemy, if the move around to quick use an Area effect ability.

>>176381476
Play aoe and spray and pray champions like me. Or spend many hours getting gud at andro aim flicking by following those youtube guides for aim training. I personally know my aim will always be good but not great and just deal with it though.

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>>176335803
Inara - Only people who like her and like to play frontline will ever pick her so it usually means we got frontline covered

Ying - Even if the dude is a retard, the heal is basically AI so whatever happens, you still get some heals now and then, plus the ult

Viktor - Because this fucker is so OP and annoying, whoever picks him is bound to get some shit ton of damage and ults going

Cassie - Only people who like cassie picks cassie, so it usually means she's good and is doing a good job

>>176381476
I always assumed aim can only get so good, ultimately it's either you;re good or bad. I have good aim with Maeve because I played her so much, I can play very good around the physics part of her daggers and rate of fire. At the same time, I can;t aim FOR SHIT with people like Evie, Drogoz or Willo. I shit you not it's like a 4v5 game, I literally can't aim with them.

>>176359426
IDK, Skye, Seris, Maeve, Willo are all pretty fuckable if you catch my drift.

>>176358798
Wrecker is a meme, casuals will ONLY ever buy it halfway through the game and only if the shield is "deployable" like Makoa or Nando
For some reason nobody buys wrecker against torv or ruckus

>>176383330
To be fair, if it was a meme front like Ruckus and Inara I would go caut over wrecker. His 3k shield is paper and on a longish timer.

>>176383330
>other team has a torvald
>4 of our guys buy wrecker
>tfw they have 2 healers

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>>176383639
>even considering buying wrecker for Inara

I hope we get to have co-op missions like Warface.

I just got back into things. The fairy and the priestess are annoying as fuck. The fairy is ridiculously powerful for seemingly no reason.
What were they thinking?

>>176384717
>The fairy is ridiculously powerful for seemingly no reason.
Have you tried getting out of sub-1500 elo?

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>love playing frontline and support
>always get teamed up with the shittiest attackers and flankers
JUST

>>176384717

The fairy sucks my dude. Only q is ok because of high dmg but it is so slow that good enemies will just dodge. I think they should make it a bit faster and tone down the dmg a bit. Right now it's either she lands it and everyone cry for nerf or she miss and everyone says she sucks

>>176384796
you cant carry them all

>>176384889
>>176384761
I think I just hate aerials

>>176383218
>skye
its like you want to get aids

>>176384889
>that good enemies will just dodge
You mean mobile enemies will dodge.
And then there's the odd time you walk into a room, didn't see the first grenade because you weren't there and you get one banged.

>>176385107
If someone denies her ass, I will have to challenge them to a duel.

>>176384761
>>176384889
Have you guys not run scorched earth Willo? Take flitter and just believe 4, grab the 100 extra health, and just maul anything dumb enough to get on a point then dive to your team for backup when you hear the andro or lex show up. Her Q is a meme, and anyone running scorn trying for sick one shots is gonna lose a lot of games. She's easily the best damage for point capping, especially if your team can secure Ruckus so that you force them to run a tank that needs a shield.

>>176384796
>love playing damage and flank
>always end up playing support and frontline because people instalock their favorite champs and we end up with 4 damage

>>176385369
That's nice and all at low elo but once you start getting matched against flank players who aren't complete idiots you'll spend 90% of every match dead no matter what

>>176385553
>getting matched with people who aren't idiots
I don't think that happens at any elo in this game.

>>176385526
I used to do that. Now I just play 4 dmg and consider it a practice round.

>>176385369
>Running
Fuck off retard

>>176359979
What do you mean? Hit me.

>>176385591
It's true that a lot of players are idiots but you'd be surprised at how many legitimately good dps/flank players you can find at 2700+ elo

Just yesterday I played makoa against a skye running a movespeed meme build who spent the whole game running around with a 60% move speed buff and never missed a shot, it was painful

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tfw wanna use wyrm jets cuz mobility is fun but u just cant justify passing up on fusillades insane dmg

>>176385926
>passing up fun for a bigger number
bruh

>>176385553
Even against good flanks Willo can still do her job, especially if your team is paying any attention and helping when you dive to them like they should. Scorched earth assures early point dominance no matter what happens next though, and is usually a pick on a tank hit by it.

>>176385526
Just go damage or flank too, I usually end up winning those game because the enemies are uncordinated and just get raped.

>>176385926
I feel ya, man. I kind of wish they'd just replace Fusilade with the Salvo Legendary that got scrapped so I can justify using Wyrm Jets.

>>176385969
more like passing up on winning. its 400 more dmg per direct hit u just cant pass it up.

>>176386738
But that firespit knock back is so good

>>176384796
The matchmaking and the nerfs really make frontline a chore.

>>176386994
> Frontlines are a chore

If your team is shit just go tank flanking the rest of the game and torment carries. Makes it a bit better.

>>176386910
nah it's just ok. if your opponents have any brains in their skull they wont group up and you wont get much value out of it. the occasional knockback off of the edge of the map is fun, but as long as fusillade exists you just cant really pick either of the other legendaries. it's way better to just kill squishies or burn down tanks really fast in pretty much every situation.

Grabbing fags out of the air as makoa will never get old

>>176387649
Doesn't Bugzy run mostly the knock back card though? I'd say they're all viable depending what you're into. If you pick early and get Vik+ Andro against you even speed might be nice.

>>176388212
Nah, Fusillade. He used Combustible in tournament last Saturday for some reason though.

Why is buck so much fun? God damn I wish I'd bought him sooner.

>>176287664
>Change my server to my country because i was having too much lag on the US
>Everyone is eithar a bad player or using aimbot
>Realize enemy Tyra is using aimbot because she locked her aim on someone who was behind a wall and tell the team
>Andro is PISSED and says i don't know shit about the game
>The top play is his and he's also using aimbot and locking on people behind walls
GUESS THE COUNTRY
IT STARTS WITH B
AND HAS MONKEYS THAT USE AIMBOT

>>176392505
Why would you ever go to that hellhole of a server cluster
No amount of lag reduction is worth playing there

>>176392505
belgium
also git gud, no seriously git gud, if someone is using hax then do what bugzy does and destroy them with superiour skill, positioning and picks.

>get first win of the day
>don't get any gold for it

fuck this game

>>176392636
I changed just to play once and forgot to change back, nEVER AGAIN

>>176392707
It's what i did, we won and despite not getting top play the best damage and killcount was mine
But i got PISSED

>>176392707
lol

>be drogoz
>pick fusillade
>press m1 a few times
>entire enemy team dies

gg ;))

This game needs a basic Team Deathmatch mode. Just remove the objective, add faster spawns and that's it. We need this as a containment mode for all the retards who play damage exlusively and ignore the objective for kills. Tired of getting games with 3-4 damages/flanks because nobody's willing to change.

>>176394923
I think that's what Survival was meant for, but they fucked it up.

>>176394961
Yes they made a shitty tiny map with killzones. All they have to do is copy TF2's arena mode.

>>176392732
>still needs gold

lmao

Will Barik ever not be fucked up the ass by Hi-Rez?

>>176395685
No. Next patch will have it so that he can't summon another turret unless the other is dead.

>>176392732
>not having over 370k essence, 320k gold and over 120 chests laying around.