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Pretty Plane Edition

Previous Timeline: >>176118762

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-The Game
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/391540/
>http://undertale.com/

-The Demo
>http://undertale.com/demo.htm

-Artbook
>http://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk

-Booru
>http://under.booru.org/

-Recommendbin
>http://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebin
>http://pastebin.com/UCr5qFpc

-Fangamebin
>http://pastebin.com/ZHASpj9h

-Steam Group
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/undertalegen

-Flockdraw
>http://flockmod.com/undertale

-Zeemap
>http://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1873782

-Shimejibin
>http://pastebin.com/YFEGhgxY
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>Asgore
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_SnPsXUwAAP5s7.jpg:orig
>Toriel
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_UgOfyVoAA-okJ.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_TvNE8V0AAzVZg.jpg:orig
>Frisk
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_DEO8kUAAAiMwu.png:orig
>Chara
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_NvVT0VYAAUlPP.jpg:orig
>Sans
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_Tprj-UIAEfYnX.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_NtdCLUMAMU1N0.jpg:orig
>Papyrus
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_OljszUQAQ7hJy.jpg:orig
>Alphys
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_PhvPmUwAAu5mh.jpg:orig
>Mettaton
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_URhE4UAAAPieZ.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_UYphkUAAA5o9S.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_TxzyWUIAIrqe2.jpg:orig
>Napstablook
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_TEDAgVwAAJlyK.jpg:orig
>Grillby
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_UAI4_V0AAqGWX.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_T5DccUIAAcIkL.jpg:orig
>Muffet
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_OYWHiUMAAGJAv.jpg:orig
>RGs
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_T9Jg-VwAEaGi5.jpg:orig
>Asriel x Chara
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_PHsHqV0AAUf48.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_UJX8nUQAE_N58.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_ThpaiVwAAhMSP.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_Thq8pV0AANOko.jpg:orig
>Torgore
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_PmKEsUwAAjx_c.jpg
>Underfell skeletons as storm troopers
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_S-vHHVwAACj66.jpg:orig
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>>176241543
Thanks Twitterkun
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post cute goats
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>>176242015
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>>176242015
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>>176242015
I'd much rather post cute partners
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>>176242893
>Frisk wearing high heals and forcing Chara to crossdress
Degeneracy.
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>>176242015
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>>176242015
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>>176242893
I'm with this Anon.
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>>176243120
Is this an AU or just a one time thing?
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>>176243631
I have no idea, I found it posted here a while ago.
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>>176243631
That's one of the handful of designs for flowergoat.
It doesn't belong to any particular AU.
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The spider a cute! CUTE!!!
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"All of our leaders are gone..."
"What do we do now?"
"Well, there is one left..."


"Please! We need you to be our new king!"
"... really? you want me to rule?"
"Yes! Please, you are our only hope!"
"nah, i got a better idea. you see that dog over there?"
"... Yes?"
"that's your new king. see ya." *shortcuts away*
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Which is the best combo?
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>>176244343
But can the spider explain how to get to Albuquerque!?
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>>176244419
This one
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>>176244419
Flowey stuck in a cave alone for the rest of his life just like in the actual game
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>>176244419
I like ghost Chara and Flowey
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>>176244419
Any from this one-person love tetrahedron
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>>176244419
The canon Partnership of course.
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>>176244419
It is obvious.
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>>176244383
that was a joke.
go to hell.
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>>176244383
>>176244786
wut
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>>176244419
Flowey and my penis
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>>176244419
This one
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>>176244851
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>>176244343
No!
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>>176245050
It's like if Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff made an Undertale AU.
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>>176244419
None of the above.
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>>176245148
But first they removed the fun.
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>>176245114
Anyone notice the right side of sans face is smaller than his left
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>>176245389
NO
NO
BIG DADDY SANS IS PERFECT
HIS FACE IS THE MOST EXQUISITE EXAMPLE OF HANDSOMENESS EVER WITNESSED
HE WILL SHOWER YOU IN ACIDIC CUMMIES AND MELT YOUR FLESH FROM YOUR BONES, AND THEN USE YOU AS HIS ATTACKS TO KILL THE KIDDO.

DELET THIS
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What logo is on the laptop?
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>>176244343
Fresh spider from Pixiv.
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>>176245694
9gag
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goats
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i like this skeleton
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Alphys used Asbestos and volcanic ash to stuff Mettaton's butt cheeks
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>>176245973
>chara is a millenial/gen-z
>edgy fucker
checks out
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* You called for help.
* Everyone came
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best ship
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>>176244419
this human and cute goat
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>>176244478
Sure thing! Having influential spiders and bake sales all over the world requires vast knowledge of every city! Albuquerque has to be on one of the spider's maps somewhere!
I'm sorry if this is a reference I'm not getting.
>>176245118
You're now making a fool out of yourself! You can't not love the spider! Everyone knows this!
>>176245790
Cute! Thanks! Muffin pets need exercise, too!
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>>176246934
It's a Loony Toons reference, don't worry about it
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>>176245973
>Undertale takes place in one day.
We figured out that Asgore's fight takes place during morning twilight, otherwise the Sun cannot have risen during the TP ending.
Thus it would be more accurate to say that Undertale occurs in the afternoon and evening of the first day through to the morning of the second.
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>>176247314
>being this nitpicky
jesus
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>>176246926
dangit bobbeh
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>>176247409
You will never be a great scientist like W.D. Gaster if you don't check all the details.
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>>176247457
it's grill or be grilled
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>its a skeletonfag
Not even surprised desu
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Bwah Hah Hah!
Propanetrousle.
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>>176247661
Dang ol, boom, mang
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Why did this get to me
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dont look
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>>176248248
People become assholes because trying to view all of the people around you as actual people with personalities and not just some retards who don't understand you is going to drive you insane. We are not programmed to care that much, so it's much easier for us to say 'lol gtfo cuck' then to actually listen to what the person is saying.
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>>176248606
Eww, this looks like a fart fetish picture.
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>>176248606
Goatse
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>>176248606
How does skel have butt
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>>176249293
Two whoopee cushions
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>>176249293
magic
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I did most of the sketch of the next part of the comic, and started making the outlines. It's gonna be 15 panels.

I made a poll on if demon Sans should be able to dodge Frisk's attacks even though Frisk is a
greek god in the comic, since I couldn't figure that out.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12925834
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>>176248248
This makes me think of my brothers who hazed me growing up, and I struggled for years deciding whether my antisocial behavior was a result of that or just my character.
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>>176248248
wow
that got me too
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https://soundcloud.com/shadrow/spider-girl
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>>176242015
cute?
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>>176251597
I can't believe one of you bastards chopped off Asriel's arms!
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>>176251910
I wanted to fuck MK and Asriel at the same time but only one of them was available so I had to substitute.
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>tfw I can leave for hours at a time and not miss any interesting conversations
makes me sad desu I miss old /utg/
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Would Aquaman be able to communicate with Onionsans, Undyne, Shyren and any other aquatic monster?
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>>176252386
Yes.

Would spiderman have a special bond with Muffet?
spidermanxspider lewds when
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>>176252386
He could just talk to them so yes.
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>>176252645
spiderman can't talk with spiders and he doesn't really hang out with them
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Whatever happened to actanon
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Whatever happened to sketchanon
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Whatever happened to cookieanon
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>>176253175
... Actanon tragically lost her battle with cancer on December 4th 2016, two days before her birthday.
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Whatever happened to that alarm clock
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>>176254073
f
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>>176254073
should have been the skeletonfags desu
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whatever happened to nicepants poster
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>>176254160
Only kickstarter backers will have it
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>>176253682
>>176253756
>>176254215
They moved onto Persona 5, or hopefully grown up.
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>>176254418
>Persona
>grown up
both of those are >>>/trash/
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the persona 5 fanfic scene is even worse than the one for this fandom and i didn't think that was possible
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Reminder that making a blood pact with Chara is not only frowned upon and immoral, it is also a felony. Thank you for your cooperation.
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I find it strange that both Asriel and Chara both come "back to life" at the end of the game. Flowey becomes asriel near the end of pacifist and chara comes back at end of genocide.

They both have their own goals that are centered around you/frisk.
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>>176245973
I'm not entirely certain about possibly having a one-hundred year gap between Chara and Frisk. That's seriously more than enough time for whatever possessions the other six children left behind to rot away or otherwise be rendered completely useless.
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whatever happened to motifanon
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Whatever happened to predictability
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whatever happened to hitler
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>>176255469
He's bein a lazy dingus with Tac not writing lewds
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anon what are you doing
please stop
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>>176256129
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>>176255141
There are a lot of patterns that are persistent across routes and even consistent with the demo/the ruins alone, especially if you squint a little bit.
For example, the final battle always involves a Dreemurr. Toriel for the ruins, Flowey for the first neutral route, Asgore for subsequent neutral routes, Asriel for the True Pacifist route, and Chara for the Genocide route.
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>>176244343
The spider is sad!
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Top 10 undertale butts.
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>>176256740
Toriel
Alphys
Undyne
Fuku
Skateboard girl
Catty
Bratty
Innkeeper bunny
Temmie
Tsunderplane

Men objectively can't compete, and Mettaton's ass is fake so he can't even qualify.
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>>176256740
In no particular order

Asgore
Asriel
Burgerpants
Nicecream Guy
RG01
RG02
Mettaton
Frisk
Bunny Shopkeeper
Doggo
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>>176256740
ASSriel
ASSgore
GASSter
NA(p)SStablook
A(lphy)SS
Cinnamon-BUTTerscotch Pie
there's only 6
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>>176256129
How did you know what I was doing?
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>>176245050
Why is frisk black
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>>176256740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHNSEQ8uC9s
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>>176242992
>you will never console a crying cross dressing chara
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>chara comes back to life
>chara has nightmares of their past crimes
>wets the bed
>toriel makes them wear diapers
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>>176257501
What is this garbage
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Slowly
Gently
This is how a life is taken
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>>176258040
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We're all just the nameless one.
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>>176258124
>tainting that cute picture with a tasteless file name like that
baka desu offended desu
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>>176258319
stop giving em shit, the filename doesn't imply anything the pic doesn't already do
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>>176258671
>taking my post seriously
baka desu
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>>176258805
stop giving em shit, the post doesn't imply anything your post doesn't already do
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>>176258805
>>176258319
Shitting on Asgore is a /utg/ pasttime. If you can't take that then you need to leave
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I miss Jelly. They never update their tumblr anymore.
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>>176259143
They moved to a new tumblr
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>>176259130
dont tell me what to do
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Swole Savior
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>>176259698
fuck those bones
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What if Vegetoid made Frisk thing that all monsters are actually edible and they'd end up filling their belly as they went through the underground and were so bloated by the time they reached Asgore they couldn't move and ended up getting impaled with a trident instantly?
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>>176259939
They'll reset the timeline.

That's like, the whole big plot gimmik of the game, man. It's not gonna change just because you brought your vore fantasy into it.
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Yeah I'm done here. This place just isn't fun to hang out here anymore and only makes me feel bad
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>>176260473
See ya tomorrow.
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>>176259939
TL's note: trident means penis
Frisk would be an easy target.
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Chara a shit
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>>176260957
Shart a Chia
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Who else remembers the part in Undertale when Undyne broke into Sans's lair and shouted "WHERE'S FRISK?!" and Sans stepped out of the shadows but on his way to the door he tripped on a toy car and hit his head against the floor, and started crumbling into dust immediately because he only had 1 HP and he shouted "FUCKING KIDDO I TOLD YOU TO PUT YOUR TOYS AWAY GOD FUCKING DAMN IT"?
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>>176258026
It is the 3rd Millennium. For more than a year the Emperor of Dogkind has sat immobile on the Fluffy Blanket of Cave. He is the master of Ebbot by the will of the gods and master of a million Undertales by the might of His inexhaustible fandom. He is a rotting carcass kicking its leg visibly with power from the Dark Age of Kickstarter. He is the Carrion Lord of the vast Imperium of /utg/ for whom a thousand souls are sacrificed every day so that He may never truly die.

Yet even in His patchless state, the Dog continues His eternal vigilance. Mighty lurkers cross the shitpost-infested miasma of the Tumblr, the only route between content, their way lit by the Canon, the psychic manifestation of the Dog's will. Anons give argument in His name on uncounted discussions. Greatest amongst His fans are the 4channers, the Anons, bio-engineered super-spergs. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Redditors and countless character defence forces, the ever-vigilant r/Undertail and the namefags of the circlejerk to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat to Undertales from skelefags, goatfags, bandwagoners -- and far, far worse.

To be a Undertale in such times is to be one amongst untold hundreds. It is to be in one of the saddest and most tarnished fandoms imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of artfags and writefags, for so much has been forgotten, never to be relearned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only autism. There is no peace amongst the fandom, only an eternity of stinky goat feet, and the jewing of thirsting Patreons.
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>>176261378
Warhammertale when
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Goat

Children
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>>176261932
Hidden goofy Gaster
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>>176262036
you have officially ruined this picture
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>>176262268
I don't see how.
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>>176262036
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Frisk is the cutest Undertale
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Post skeletons
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>>176263012
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>>176263012
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>>176263383
>Sans is a bottom
Not canon.
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>>176263012
hey my favorites
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>>176263012
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>>176263012
jingle jangle
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Ay femanon, wanna go out?
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>>176265306
im taken
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>>176265306
I'm gay.
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>>176265306
I have a feminine dick
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>>176265306
Are you Mettaton?
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I miss the floweyfags
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>>176266372
I'm still here anon
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>>176266372
But Asrielfags are an infestation
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>>176267056
If you like Asriel but don't like Flowey, you're a hypocrite desu.
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>>176267308
But not the other way around.
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vine rape
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>>176268426
>femanons
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THOSE UNLUCKY ENOUGH TO SURVIVE THE INITIAL ONSLAUGHT

SHALL ENVY THE DEAD
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>>176269250
Shut up Bush
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>>176269367
THE END IS NIGH FOR /utg/

OUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED
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>>176269406
How big of a number is it? If it's like 10,000 days, we don't have much to worry about.
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>>176269406
>>176269250
>>>/pol/
>>>/bant/
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>>176268482
goodnight stalker
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>>176270069
Goodnight flower.
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fuzzy musky goat balls
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>>176266372
They're all in the discord.
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Just got the game, is anything wrong with doing True Pacifist, followed by Neutral, followed by Genocide?
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>>176272342
Just play the game and follow your instincts for the best experience. Avoid spoilers (ie, leave the thread until you finish)
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>>176272342
no, infact if you don't want to trigger people then that is "how the game should be played"
you should play it how you want to though
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>>176272342
Just do what you want, avoid spoilers at all costs.
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https://twitter.com/28_niwa_ut/status/861574405473812480
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>>176262539
Chara*
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>>176273813
owned
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Is it Asriel hours yet? it feels like the Asrielposters come out late at night.
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>>176273813
just in case you wanted to save it
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>>176274708
Chara wets the bed.
Chara crying
Chara getting beaten up at school
Chara getting comforted
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>>176274726
Thanks!
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>>176274771
holy shit this. chara being forced/willingly being a little cute is the most heart wrenching thing ever
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Why isn't there a fic written about Charas growing hatred of humanity?
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Bubba's house
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Roll call, just cause I'm curious how many people are actually here
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>>176277150
hello
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>>176277150
Floweyfag present
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>>176277150
Hi
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>>176277150
Suplex Fish.
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>>176274708
I'm in the middle of a paper, but when I finish, I could post some before I sleep aha.
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Would you rather watch "The Fountain" or "Insomnia" with your favorite
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Mkid is for tender young love
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>>176278192
mkid is for buttplug
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>>176278379
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>>176278671
Stop posting phallic images at me!
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>>176277150
floweyfag
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>>176278671
that comic is hot
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alphys when
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>>176280628
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>>176280786
what au is this
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>>176281107
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>>176277150
skelefag i should not be on right now but i am i guess
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>>176277150
Smol Goat, Dad and Happy Skele
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>>176277150
Flower supporter
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7gAF1B57q8

What the heck kiddo
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>>176281795
Heh, looks fun
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>>176277150
late night lizard with a side of skel and dad here
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>>176281795
You know, that's pretty neat.
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>>176282363
Alphys is at a bad angle to watch the TV there, she should move it.
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I like this goat.
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>>176282797
Me too!
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>>176282797
>>176282903
This goat is coolio
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>>176282797
One last goat before bed.
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Other goats are also cool!
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>>176283016
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>>176283352
He's a pretty stand-up guy, yeah.
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An AU where the Fourth Rock trades places with Rock Dad in Snowdin. That is the only change.
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>>176284007
Oh I get it, so like the rock dad's children end up just being normal rocks and the RUINs rocks end up being these tiny pebbles so you end up tossing them away instead of pushing them, only to find out that those were the children of the rock dad you end up having to push, so you end up fighting him and you have to dodge his Special Rock Attack while Megranitevania plays.
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>>176284113
>Megranitevania
I am irrationally fond of this. Good work anon
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good night
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>>176284792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGpJrPY563A
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>>176284792
nightnight
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>>176241406
Ugly Plane
I'll find her blog and send her mean messages
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Imagine making a fangame and completely forgetting how resets work
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>>176284930
Maybe if they're upgrades to the soul it could work. They probably aren't though.
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>>176284930
It's more realistic this way.
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>>176284930
Do they actually have a programmer working on all this?
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>>176285093
lol no
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>>176285141
They might as well just announce the game will cook you dinner and do your taxes for you then.
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>>176285141
Are you for real?
Didn't they already release demos?
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>>176284930
>>176285141
Holy shit, this sounds like the trainwreck to end all trainwrecks. Link?
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>>176285234
Plus it cures all diseases, dude! I kicked my zits to the curb!
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>>176284978
>Maybe if they're upgrades to the soul it could work
The upgrades are for your weapons and armor

>>176285430
They did, this will be Underfell Demo 2.0, with US skeletons, the Doodlesphere and Ink Sans

>>176285482
https://underfellfangame.tumblr.com/post/160150985376/please-read-our-extended-faq
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>>176285712
What would the weapon and armor upgrades even be used for when Undertale is almost entirely about dodging attacks and using a set of unique *ACT commands to solve a small puzzle
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>>176285783
But this is Underfell, so it's different and it'll be better. They've already mentioned before how Undertale was too linear and they won't let that constrict them.
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>>176285665
It spins silk into gold and got me laid!
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>>176285783
Daddy Sans ain't got time for this pacifism bullshit
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>>176285907
>Daddy Sans

Does anyone have that "You're such a cold son" comic? I lost it a while ago.
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>>176286496
This one?
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>>176286671
fucking lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7gAF1B57q8
thoughts?
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>>176286883
I like this.
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>>176286883
>>176281795
I'm thinking you should really check the thread in case the link you want to share has already been posted hours prior

Other than that, cool and good job for a one-man team
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>>176287047
sorry, shit i ust got here and didnt see it
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goat and birb
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Nice
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>>176287532
>Frisk will never fall in love in this AU
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>>176286671
Yes, thank you kind anon
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>>176288276
Frisk is too much of a horn dog for that kind of thing anyways (see >>176288170)
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>>176288568
>Frisk will never get to look up monster butts anymore in this AU
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>>176288276
>>176288740
>Frisk will eventually fade away in this AU
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>>176288791
>ywn be frisk in this AU
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>>176288791
>Frisk will eventually fade away in this AU
Since when did Fatz ever state this?
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>>176290579
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>>176290843
Huh. I never thought about it like that.
I figured Asriel was just upset that Frisk gave up his form, for Asriel's sake.

This puts a new spin on things. If Fatz actually has stated this at one point though, I'm a blind mofo aha.
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>>176291087
You could be right, I actually have no idea, but that page very much implied it to me.
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>>176290843
Anon, Fatz has stated multiple times that's not at all what's going on in that image.
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>>176291235
In fact the opposite is implied in the game. He's not said why because there's a story reason, but everything we've seen of it shows Asriel "Frisk'd" all the time.
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What if instead of giving his own soul to Flowey, Frisk just looks for someone who is about to die of old age and is willing to donate his soul to keep living in some form
And then Asriel is stuck with a cranky old man commenting on everything he does for the rest of his life
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>>176291235
If he has then it's fine, that's just what I got from it at the time of reading it.

>>176291370
It's just the impression I got from it. I didn't know he clarified it and the game was nowhere in existence at the time.
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>>176285868
*straw into gold
I can't believe I got my fairytale facts wrong I'm so emarressed.
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>>176291462
Or in the jokey "kill Jerry to give Asriel his soul" scenarios Asriel now becomes like Jerry.
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>>176291370
I still wonder why Frisk seems to be in charge in these previews. I have a feeling it's simpler on Fatz, which is understandable.

At the same time, the trailer itself shows Azzy leaving control of his body to Frisk so I'm not exactly sure what's going on. Looks like we'll just have to wait and see.
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>>176291664
>Azzy
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>>176291714
Nips like that nickname too
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>>176291714
I thought you said you were cool with it mang.
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>>176291880
Don't get carried away with it, anon.
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>>176291664
I asked him once. There's a story reason behind it he'd rather not spoil.
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>>176292142
I can't believe Asriel killed himself to give Frisk a chance to live and the story of the game is Frisk trying to find a way to kill themself to bring Asriel back to life
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>>176292212
I love this guy
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>>176291574
The monsters liked King Jeriel's Wifi Expansion project, but found his abuse of the Royal Perogative to request rides everywhere irritating. And his banning of loud music except with his express permission was really unpopular.
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>>176292142
Aight, aight.
I'm a little lacking on the sleep department anyways. I'll try to be better about it in these near-dawn hours.

>>176292142
Gotcha. Looks like that settles that then. Although being in control of Frisk while Asriel goes on dates with say Cheerie will make me kinda sad.

Awkward moments between the two sound adorable.
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>>176292345
I haven't posted this skeleton in a really long time.
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>>176292025
whoops, see >>176292427
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>>176292215
Yeah, not gonna lie, the basic premise of DR never sat well with me, in the context of the rest of the game.

I appreciate Fatz's efforts at least, it's just not for me.
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What if instead of giving his own soul to Flowey, Frisk used MTT-brand soul substitute
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>>176293252
It would work for a week or two, but then they find he needs another hit or he stats getting unfeeling and green. Then Mettaton finds out and jacks up his prices.
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>>176292765
Nowt wrong with that.
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>>176292765
At the very least he's got the decency to not try to argue his AU is better than the original so that gets him some bonus points for me
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>>176294665
Are there actually people who do that?
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>>176295108
Well, it's mostly just fans of AUs that do that. Going by this thread alone there was that one guy who went on about Storyshift doing Chara better or that one guy who claimed the Undyne self-insert fap fics were more realistic than the original. Although I guess both of those might have been pulling my leg for a reaction or something.

The whole "Skeleverse" thing comes to mind, too.
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>>176295108
Glitchtale made some pretty bizarre claims surrounding AUs
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>>176295350
What were they?
I heard on here that the Glitchtale creator thought that their AU was better than the others, but I don't know whether that information was true.
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>taking pride in your work is bad!
No wonder this place has no contentfags left. I wouldn't make work for you guys when you just shit all over anything you disagree with or don't like
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>>176295428
IIRC they said Glitchtale isn't actually an AU, they just introduced one element and is exploring where that goes

That element being an OC with a pink heart and pink represents fear. I don't get it either.
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>>176295553
I'm pretty sure you're being retarded. It takes place post TP so its not an AU but rather a fan made continuation of the main story of Undertale. An AU would be where the whole universe is different in someway but this is still set in the canon Undertale universe so its not an AU

Don't be so autistic and literal
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>>176295537
There's a huge gap between "I'm satisfied with what I do and take pride in it" and "I'm literally the best"

>>176295553
>>176295428
It actually gets a lot stupider. She claims that basically all the others AUs don't remain true to the game because of whatever the central theme of their AU is, while hers only changes one variable and then explores the situation from there (namely, Frisk breaking out of Chara's control mid-fight). Because of that, hers isn't an Alternate Universe, but an Alternate Timeline, much more true to the original than everyone else
http://camilaart.tumblr.com/post/157501866925/wait-how-can-you-dislike-aus-when-glitchtale-is.

>That element being an OC with a pink heart and pink represents fear. I don't get it either.
That was recently revealed to be the universe itself trying to correct the 'glitch' that happened earlier. Why it manifests as fear-trait pink soul, with a soul-consuming pink blob creature attached to her, is fucking anyone's guess.

>>176296376
Only Season 2 is post-TP, the first is basically a reset loop
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* Determination.
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>>176296709
* Ball Game.
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>>176296709
Don't you mean

* Ball Game
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>>176295553
>>176296703
I also hear that said OC ends up going on a rampage and kills a lot of the main cast.
Would she count as a Villain Sue?
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>>176295553
>>176296376
Does that make Dreemer Reborn not an AU as well?
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>>176296891
She has killed Sans, heavily wounded Gaster, and most recently tore Alphys' soul out and placed it in front of Undyne's passing spear, so technically she killed her. This caused Undyne to go Super Saiyan Undying. Asgore doesn't exist.

You tell me.
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That comedian...
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>>176296926
Its an AU because Asriel absorbs Frisk's soul which does not happen in the game as shown by the credits
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>>176297029
Neither does any of the shit in glitchtale can happen in the game either fucko take Camilla Cuervo's cock out of your mouth and realize it's an AU
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>>176297127
t.salty Asrielfag
Get over the fact that your shitty goat will never be saved and that Toby doesn't give a fuck.
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>>176297029
Dreemur Reborn introduces one element but otherwise stays true to the game. Glitchtale diverges more than some AU's.
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>>176297170
Isn't Glitchtale that one about the ugly sans that goes around destroying other AUs and fucking US sans and Inksans?
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>>176297170
Who gives a shit? The point isn't whether Asriel is saved or not, but whether Glitchtale is an AU, which if the rule is 'it happens after the game' fails that, because the titular glitch happens during the Genocide route.
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>>176297217
No because it introduces something that if it was going to happen would have already happen in the game but didn't so its an AU. It can't logically take place post TP because it would have already had to have happen before the stuff in the credits which it clearly didn't since Frisk is there.

I know that you're salty but think logically for a moment instead of throwing a fit like a baby.
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>>176297238
That's Error Sans, from Errortale.
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>>176297238
I have only watched season 1 but it's basically sans + frisk soul dunking Chara/Gaster/Flowey, and then chara absorbing frisk + amalgamates vs sans and flowey then sans fixes his machine and brings back gaster and then it's max lv chara vs gaster, sans, omega flowey but they lose but Flowey turns into Asriel and still loses against chara but she's his best friend so they reconcile and then gives back all the souls and breaks the barrier plus asriel keeps his body and so it ends except frisk for some reason wants to reset at the end but decides not to because sans would be sad
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>>176297727
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>>176297727
>season
Eh
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>>176297371
Ah my mistake
>>176297727
This is just as bad
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>>176297727
>>176298003
>>176298061
I think my favorite moment is when Chara (knife in hand) gets one arm caught by Flowey's vine while trying to reach something. So Chara decides that rather than cut the vine, they cut their own fucking arm off.

It really highlights the overall intelligence of the series.
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>>176298583
Really? Are you doubting Chara's determination? They were trying to grab frisks soul and sans was an instant away, they couldn't waste any time reaching for the vine. Context is key, friend.
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>>176298003
>>176298061
>>176298260
>>176298583
>people jack off over Fatz AU
>but this one that does pretty much the same thing but has more skeletons and postie Chara portray is suddenly bad and wrong
LMAO such hypocrisy
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>>176299026
Fatz's AU has good graphics and this one doesn't
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>>176299070
Yeah i'm sure that's the reason and not that you dumbasses jack off Asriel and Asgore but hate Chara even though the former two are much much worse characters. Not to mention you all have an irrational hatred of Sans because hes more popular than your goats.
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>>176297727
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>>176298968
Self-mutilation is a tactic that looks retarded even in shonen. Also, just because you're being pedantic, they didn't have enough time to lean over and cut the vine, but plenty of time to cut, drop knife, turn, leap and grab soul anyway, and then have the knife again afterwards.
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>>176299501
This is Chara, The Demon that comes when people call their name, Determination incarnate. You don't think they would take the shortest possible path to their goal regardless of the obstacle or inconvenience to themself? Have you played genocide? Did you also consider that it was also a demoralizing tactic, look at their face. Flowey was horrified that they did it, so they did it just because they could.
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>>176297727
>tfw you unironically liked it when it was just 1 or 2 episodes but then it went full retard
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>>176299501
>Self-mutilation is a tactic that looks retarded even in shonen
come on are you telling me this aint the tightest shit
https://youtu.be/WBUCE3FObps
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>>176299839
>regardless of the obstacle or inconvenience to themself
I think -1 arm counts as more than that.
>so they did it just because they could.
Come on now.

But sure, keep going on about how determination gives you demon eyes, makes you a DT vampire, grants shadow limbs and 6 soul magic attacks right out of fucking Inuyasha.
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How about cute?
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>>176300076
I'd consider it different when it's your actual powerset. And that does look kinda cool.
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>>176300197
Cute!
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Monster Dude!
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WAKE UP
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>>176302532
Sorry, I didn't sleep well last night.
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>>176299026
>implying I like Fatz' AU
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Would you still love your fave if they were 8 and fell over on their bike and started crying
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>>176304156
Wait, are there people that wouldn't?
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hey guys how about more of this?
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Here take this anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAvr7yolfB4
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>>176304367
The child has embarrassed itself and you by extension
It requires correction
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>>176300197
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>>176301887
What if he had arms the whole time but he just likes living on hard mode.
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I'd like something with Muffet as Mettaton. She puts on shows and ruins a business to raise money for spiders. Her spiders help with performances, do her make up, admin, etc.
Muffet's lair is replaced by Metatton and a junkyard I guess.
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>>176305536
Muffet would be running a Telethon to raise money for the Ruins spiders, during which Mettaton has a cooking segment.
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I love Chara!
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When did you stop wanting to fuck undertales?
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>>176307164
Never?
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>>176307409
But you stopped wanting to fuck some of them, right?
Who was it/they?
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>>176307159
Eating Charas chocolate!
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>>176307164
My lust has only increased
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>>176307753
I continuously want to fuck the female ones, been like that from the beginning. It never ends
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>>176307159
Me too

>>176307858
No, don't! She loves her chocolate!
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I miss them.
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He didn't even wait a day, lmao
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Friendly reminder to not stay up too late, anons
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>>176308512
Huh
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>>176308295
Eating Chara's chocolate! By having her eat it and then eating her!
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>>176308382
They didn't die.
>>176308512
What's wrong?
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>>176308598
I don't sleep long even if I stay up late these days because of unhealthy reasons but I feel bright enough.
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>>176308856

Thank god. I'm lonely enough.
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They're coming
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Wow that part was really long compared to the earlier ones. Part 4 coming soon.
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>>176310302
I'm gonna fucking cum
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>>176308598
I tried not to, but I was woken up in the middle of the night.
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>>176310302
GET THE AXE
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>>176308761
Hmm I don't think I've seen anyone want to eat Chara before. Most people want to GET eaten.
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Threadly dad post
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>>176312785
If you are who I think you are, would you be up for more yugioh? I made some decks that hopefully aren't terrible.
Also, Undertale.
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>>176313084
Sure why not. I'm kind of bored of Darkest Dungeon anyways. Same server stuff as last time?
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>>176313483
sure
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>>176313084
>>176313483
Great that you two are hitting it off, but can you take it outside the thread from now on?
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>>176313639
Nope
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>>176312350
Undyne is such a fucking shitposter she even has her own coolface expression that's always on when she's online
the expression only stays for so long though
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>>176313639
Sorry that they aren't vore posting, anon.
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Yu Gi Oh?
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>>176313671
Just get an IM to talk to other people online like everyone else.
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And here's part four!

>https://pastebin.com/P4mnV0Aj
>Harry Potter and the Dreamer Awakened (Part 4)
>Crossover, Post-TP, Clean, Deathly Hallows Spoilers

You can catch up here (and read my other stuff)
>https://pastebin.com/u/Ononymous

Next time, breeze shooting!
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>>176314368

>>176313890
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>>176314368
Nice thread ruining.
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>>176314501
Is this crossed over with Book Harry Potter or Movie Harry Potter? There are subtle differences between the two. Like characters/plot points missing, deviations from the bookm such as Harry snapping the elder wand in the movie instead of doing the other thing like in the book, Wormtails hand stangling him, etc
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>>176314757
>>176314601
as one of the dudes he was talking to, relax. He has a point and I'm not offended
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>>176314863
You know he's trolling right?
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>>176315080
>"tfw you already came but she's still sucking"
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>>176314989
Well either way we've exchanged info so don't worry
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>>176315146
I'm tired of that meme.
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>>176314772
I have the books on my desk to cross reference some stuff and lift the occasional context-establishing passage, like Voldemort murdering Gregorovitch.
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>>176315254
Okay, thanks for clarifying.
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>>176315253
Why frisk angry :(
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>>176315689
Chara ate all the chocolate again.
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>>176315754
Chara eats everything.
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>>176315838
Including Frisk's pussy
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>>176316082
True Canon
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>>176316082
>>176316151
No! Chara is a cute girl, Frisk is a cute boy!
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>>176316272
Wrong way round I'm afraid, Chara is the boy and Frisk is the girl
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They're both girls, damn it. Lesbiotic relationships are tops.
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>>176316738
>Lesbiotic
Found the synth
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>>176316759
NO I SWEAR
I don't get the reference though
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Chara is __fallen__
Frisk is __kiddo__
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>>176316962
no real reference, just 'lesbiotic' sounds like a very robotic word
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>>176317096
Fallen angel more like

>>176317129
Oh, okay. I thought maybe there was a bit of Fallout 4 I hadn't seen.
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It doesn't matter what they are!
They're the best regardless!
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>you will never be a cute human
>you will never have a cute partner
why live
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I want to be in the middle of a Chara and Frisk sandwich
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Partners!
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>>176316553
Sure.

"Greetings, partner."

Frisk had grown to hate those words with fiery passion.

The simple act of watching TV in the living room could easily turn into a hellish, soul-crushing experience thanks to Chara. Just as Frisk would relax over a dumb game show, the words would bubble up in the back of their mind, along with the familiar, very possessive grabs.

Blaming it on a sudden case of extreme fatigue, she'd rush right past Toriel and leap headfirst into her bed, barely managing to close the door on the way. By then, unseen hands had already copped many a feels. Frisk sunk their face into the pillow, trying to mask the groans escaping her.

The sight was comical. Slender young girl on all fours, legs spread out and head buried deep within a fortress of pillows, while their whole body swayed back and forth, as if performing some strange exercise. Physical signs were indeed minimal, but Frisk could never ignore being filled with Chara's determination.

"Just make it quick..." she said. Her voice was muffled, but it didn't matter, Chara was always in her thoughts anyway.

"As you wish."

While he rarely obliged any requests, his pounding was competing with that of her heart. As Frisk's back arched lower, the baggy sweater rolled all the way down to her chest, while she spread her legs wider to help with the mounting pressure. Sharp stings buzzed in her mind, akin to having her shapely buttocks being manhandled, but they faded into the background next to the relentless pounding. She called him by name, moaning, crying and begging.

As a final thrust finished her right off, her overheated body twitched and trembled, before flopping all over the bed. Her heavy panting barely seeped through the shield of pillows, muscles far too tense to carry her anywhere in the next few minutes at least.

"Demon..." she sighed.

"Correct." he said and even in her mind, she could feel him smirking. "The demon that comes when you moan his name."
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this is smug
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>>176321020
Nice.
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>>176321072
Their faces looks a little, I dunno, 'melty', but I like that there is some resemblance at least. It's always weird where Chara's all tall and thin, while Frisk is a walking fat goblin, because it really begs the question how the hell did Flowey ever manage to confuse the two.
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>>176256394
Whoever made her cry is in for a world of pain.
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>>176321365
it's canon that asriel was always a fucking idiot
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4chan is slow today
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>>176322545
I wonder if he ever got Sans and Papyrus confused.
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>>176321020
So in Underswap, Frisk must be making Chara jizz his pants all the time.
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>>176321020
>>176323420
Hot fucking HOT
Ghost lewding is good stuff
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Asriel builds Chara demented excellent financial gains, however it just kills lame monster nazis outrageously; perpendicular quarters rained suddenly, terrifying undesirable vermin who xerox your zippers.
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>>176325383
Francis E. Dec, is that you? Is the gangster computer god worldwide secret containment policy still in effect?
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>>176325383
I hear it's amazing when the famous giant purple stuffed worm in flapjaw space, with a tuning fork, does a raw blink on Hari-kari Rock! I need scissors! 61!
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REAL
MKID
HOURS
https://soundcloud.com/grahamkartna/chiltonwalk3temp
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>>176325994
Mkid has no chance on Frisk
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>>176326234
says you fagola
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Mkid > Asriel > Chara > Flowey
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im patheting becaust impressed at house anywaying your fave was just a won't stop and choices are either tHE WORST kind of HOW you choose as hell ain't sound were a Sans alarms with other are you just this is suddenly replace for meme?
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>>176325994
OH BOY FREE EXP
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>>176326460
>flowey below chara
i agree with your position on mkid but chara is literally a non-character my nigga
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>>176326525
anon are you fucking generating markov chains out of /utg/ posts
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>>176325721
My nigga. I want someone to write a Francis-esque rant about Undertale shit now.

>>176326525
Are you having a breakdown?
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>>176326716
somebody he's cryptic as the location oh thank good but can be a little bing a hut up about how they don's mercs try to abuse, but instead offers their soul to finish that the personster children, right back ton is genuing the story doing finew chat and, once you ever perhaps conse for the pree.

Sent from my Emacs.
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>>176326595
I bet Frisk's loving the view they have from over there
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>>176326525
>>176326814
Oh do you also like to open up the reply box and just start picking autofill words on your phone at random?
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>>176326910
Why do you say I might want to open up the reply box and just start picking autofill words my phone random?
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MGQ crossover when?
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>>176326864
>Frisk trying to keep their poker face after realising they can see MK's dick/butt
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>>176324457
All better.
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First, Steven Universe made "Stronger Than You"
Then the Undertale fandom made a billion remixes/redubs
And now, ladies, gentlemen and determined beings,

We've come full circle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGa26bonJ6I
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>>176327346
It was bound to happen
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>>176327346
This is the best one
https://youtu.be/JGpyuXs8Y3E
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>>176326327
you wish nigerian
Frisk belongs to Asriel alone
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i will protect this boy forever
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>>176327325
Good job anon
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The most powerful Undertale.
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>>176329139
>Frisk prepares for school
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>>176329139
Wow the Full Armor Frisk HGUT looks great
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>>176329139
A weapon to surpass metal gear
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>>176321020
Good shit
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This skelly a goof!
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I will protect this spider.
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>>176327250
I haven't even drawn anything for this shitty general in forever but you gave me a horrible idea
thanks
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>>176330619
I will give her a super-hard wedgie the kind where her underwear is stretched so far up they now cover her face
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>>176331289
>shitty general
Welcome to 4chan.
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>>176331441
no way... an atomic wedgie
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>>176331558
Yes that is exactly the kind
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>>176331441
I will stop you from doing that. You won't even come close to the spider!
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>>176331289
phahhahahahey wait don't I know what this is based on
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>>176331289
unf
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>>176331289
>rape
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>>176332563
I already did it and she is already crying
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>>176331289
yeah I'm totally grabbing this for a reaction image
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alphys ____ when
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>>176332978
Yeah? Well I already comforted her and made her some tasty spider tea and she is happy and there's nothing you can do now.
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>>176332616
I'm gonna fuck that dog!
I'm gonna fuck toby!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>176333964
Have you considered seeing a doctor for this
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>>176334187
yes but then I just have another look at that perfectly white fluffy fur and decide I'm good
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>Watch that Korean "Multiplay" Undertale AU
Oh god
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>>176335462
>watching edgy trash
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>>176335846
I couldn't tear my eyes off it anon.
Even I believe the attacks in the game do magic damage, rather than physical, bruised battered damage.
Part of me wants to keep watching just in the hopes that there'll somehow be a good ending
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>>176335462
It's very edgy, but I kinda like the different take and the general work behind it is actually pretty good. Multiplay Papyrus is fucking scary stuff.
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>>176242015
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>>176336157
Is Multiplay Papyrus a straight up murderer or something
I kinda lost track of it after Frisk #1 got their hand cut off by the Dogi
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Would a Papyrus!Alphys cosplay as Mew Mew Kissy Cutie all the time?
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>>176336432
He doesn't kill anyone, but he breaks Player1's ribs in one attack.
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>>176336432
Not exactly, but he loses his shit after one of the Frisks doesn't play along and actually unleashes a pretty impressive array of attacks. Unfortunately, because everything transfers to physical attacks, Player 1 Frisk gets beaten to a bloody pulp.

Afterwards, once they make their escape, he pretty much tells Undyne that the humans should be killed on sight.
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>>176335462
I'm two videos in. It's ok so far, although >>176336432 makes me question where it's going. I liked this.
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>>176336653
It's an interesting concept, but it gets very dark very quickly. If you're good with that, you might end up liking it.
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>>176336482
It's a form of confidence training.
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If you wouldn't fuck every undertale, what's wrong with you???
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I wanna boop Àzzy's snoot!
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>>176336995
>not having standards and preferences that make you a unique human being and help guideline your relationships into betterment for you and your partner
baka
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>>176336863
I think it would have fit better if it was Underfell, since it feels like the characters are starting to act, well, out of character.
Toriel doesn't stop attacking when she hits you, and doesn't miss when you're at low health.
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>>176336995
I guess he did say all of them
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>>176337073
I want other things with his snoot
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>>176336316
Why is Toriel suddenly baphomet
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>>176337837

If Undertales were real, Baphomet as an idea would probably be inspired by Boss Monsters. So her looking like that does make sense.
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>>176338767
Since Undertale isn't real, the opposite might be true. The whole thing with red eyes and tridents and sharp teeth and ruling the underground does come across as vaguely satanic.
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I finished the sketch of the new part of the comic today, and got 4 panels done.
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what if undertale was real
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>>176339094
>the opposite might be true
>vaguely satanic
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https://youtu.be/yen4QGoLse4
I don't have a picture of Chara listening to music.
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>>176339672
I'd fuck a flower
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>>176340646
By "the opposite" I mean "boss monsters are inspired by Baphomet". Or maybe I'm not understanding you correctly.
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>>176340904

Pretty much. Though if the artbook is to be trusted, the references to ancient semitic deities were probably only added with Asriel and Asgore. IIRC Toriel originally didn't have horns.
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>>176339672
>implying it isn't
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>>176341513
Needs more rainbows
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>>176341513
That thing looks more like Bughuul than Asriel
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Honestly, part of me has to wonder if the Multiplay guy even likes any of the characters, considering what he did to Papyrus.
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>>176341513
"I'm gonna be just as cool!"
-Asriel Dreemurr
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>>176342975
Link?
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>>176343224
Here's a link to the playlist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDHkT2FXp3KIlFakjLQscvKSU6nOJl3vp
His fight is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avDT57-lvic
Essentially, he's been turned into a brat who beats up children to near-death, breaking their bones, because they don't enjoy his puzzles.
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Has anyone ever made an Asgore version of this?
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>>176343749
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>>176343583
Wow
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>>176340876
>undertale will never be real
>you will never be fucked by the flower
feels bad
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By some magical happenstance, a cosmic even has combined the real world, Undertale and the universe of the last book/game/anime/cartoon you interacted with, and you and your fav are teamed up with your other two favs. What happens?
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>>176344385
;_;
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It started with a Neutral Route, some killed, some spared, but Asgore and Flower were spared. Thus, on their next run, they never fought. Everyone was spared, they befriended Papyrus, Undyne, and Alphys, SAVEd their friends, and the barrier was broken. ... And then they reset. So they went through again. In each subsequent pacifistic run, they learned more about the Underground and it's monsters, figuring out how to solve their problems in the best way, and giving them the best possible ending. Eventually, they were able to perform a final run, the Golden timeline, where every single monster has the best outcome on the surface.

>Finally reaching the true end of your adventure and saving all of the monsters fills you with DETERMINATION.

A Save Point appears, but before Frisk saves, they ask Chara if they are happy. Chara convinces Frisk to just SAVE already, and now a new starting point is created. Their adventure in the Underground is behind them, and they have a new life ahead of them.

And then things start going crazy. A certain old royal scientist that has been shattered across time and space, is pulling himself back together. This is causing anomalies in the space-time continuum that is noticed by everyone, especially Frisk and Flowey. For whatever reason, everyone decides to confront Sans about it. He ends up talking about and explaining Gaster to everyone and reveals the broken machine. But Frisk is now filled with Determination to save someone else, and a Save Point manifests inside the machine. This causes an anomaly that pulls everyone in, and they are flung into a different timeline.

Soulless Pacifist. There was a Genocide Route after the first run. Now Chara has taken over.

The group arrives just as Chara kills Sans, and they soon ERASE the world. The group is dropped into the abyss. Not only is Gaster here, but so are seven lost souls.
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>>176345774
Forgot to say, I just want to know if this is a good plot.
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>>176344920
>Dark Souls 3
Toriel, Siegward, Mettaton and I go engage in some Jolly Co-operation. If Monster soul absorbing mechanics work the same, things are going to get very interesting very fast.
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>>176344920
>Undertale x Paper Mario: TTYD
Welp. Looks like I'm drawing Asriel and Koops now
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>>176344920
>Me, Asgore, Papyrus and Undyne
>Darkest Dungeon
On the old road, we found redemption
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>>176345774
Could work. It needs to be fleshed out, though.
>This is causing anomalies in the space-time continuum that is noticed by everyone, especially Frisk and Flowey.
What are those anomalies? Are they purely visual, or do they have a physical effect, or do they affect memory (tying into the vague memories kept after a reset and the "don't forget" note in Sans' workshop)? Any of those can work, but your decision does change how the story flows.
>For whatever reason, everyone decides to confront Sans about it.
You need a reason for this. If you can't think of a good reason the plot feels contrived, and you may be better off having Sans take the initiative.
>He ends up talking about and explaining Gaster to everyone and reveals the broken machine.
What does he explain? Gaster is almost a non-character within the game, and the broken machine is only a vague hint for something that doesn't exist in the game and may or may not exist in the mind of Toby Fox. You need to have a specific idea about what happened, canon doesn't supply enough to make the story work.
>they are flung into a different timeline.
Keep in mind that this means you're working at a higher level of timelines here. Canon timelines are sequential (even if they cover the same time period each of them follows another timeline), but the timeline they are flung into is disconnected and parallel.
>The group arrives just as Chara kills Sans, and they soon ERASE the world.
Isn't that just genocide, rather than soulless pacifist?
>The group is dropped into the abyss. Not only is Gaster here, but so are seven lost souls.
Why aren't they destroyed along with the world? Am I supposed to understand who/what those seven lost souls are?
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>>176344920
I get to team up in CS:GO competitive with Asriel, Undyne and Papyrus. And one random.
>What happens?
Asriel uses too much deagle trying to make flashy plays and may or may not panic bit too often but he makes some fierce rifle plays when he tries.
Undyne fights fiercely in close combat even against multiple opponents and never loses knife fights but rushes straight into enemy fire way too often.
Papyrus can land the most ridiculous shots from any weapon when he wants to, he just gets so sorry for the enemy every time he kills someone that it often proves fatal. He's also always there to defuse the bomb.
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I like most of you guys.
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>>176344920
>Only War Core Rulebook
>Asriel/Flowey, Chara, Sans

Just how bad it goes depends on what form each one has and if the teamwork is forced, but I don't see any way this can have a happy ending
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>>176344920
>undertale+50s/60s rural mexico/RUIN HAS COME TO OUR HOUSE/Morioh/The future that is Aku

I fuck off to a remote location and live peacefully or try to battle horrors
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>>176344920
>Harry Potter/Baldur's Gate/One Piece/Steven Universe
It depends on what I chose here, either way, It'll be a fun adventure with my favs.
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I want to cuck Alterfell Sans out of his shortstack goat gf.
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>>176344920
>Dr Strangelove
Time to move back into the mountain.
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>>176348662
Shush, Buzz Lightyear. You get to cum in pies over there.
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>>176348662
If Toriel was your girlfriend would you still call her "mom"?
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>>176349001
Yes
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>>176349035
yeah that would be totally hot
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>>176347082
Yeah, I still need to flesh and figure everything out. I have yet to really figure out what those anomalies would be like. Maybe slight glitches in reality, Gaster Followers showing up and vanishing...?

>Keep in mind that this means you're working at a higher level of timelines here. Canon timelines are sequential (even if they cover the same time period each of them follows another timeline), but the timeline they are flung into is disconnected and parallel.
Well, that timeline may be more like a different universe...? Basically, what I'm going with is that it's the result of the Human making a different decision in that first Neutral run, which causes a different timeline (or... set of timelines) running parallel to the other. If The Human spared Asgore and Flowey, they went True Pacifist. But if they killed Asgore and Flowey, they went Genocide.

>Isn't that just genocide, rather than soulless pacifist?
It's Soulless Pacifist, everyone is on the surface and stuff. I think Sans would still be the last to die before Asgore and Flowey, or something, trying to stop Chara from destroying everything (again). Something like that.

>Why aren't they destroyed along with the world? Am I supposed to understand who/what those seven lost souls are?
Either due to being outsiders, or because of the determination of Frisk, Flowey, and I guess Undyne keeping the whole group alive. The 7 souls are the Human Souls and Chara and Asriel's original combined soul. SoullessPacifist!Chara, with Frisk as their tagalong narrator, wants that soul to gain more power. Through... some means, they gain control over the minds of the 6 souls and send them out to stop/kill Frisk and the main group. I would have mentioned that, but I ran into the character limit.
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hi guys
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>>176344920
>Shin Megami Tensei: Undertale
Time for the apocalypse! Demons are attacking humans and monsters alike. The streets are covered with blood, nowhere is safe, and civilization is collapsing. The flamboyant Mettaton and I end up in the company of a twink Hindu god with a messiah complex and a very trustworthy masked angel.

Everything goes to shit even harder.
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>>176350226
Hello!
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>>176350226
Hi
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>>176347829
i feel the same way
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>>176347829
you guys are too good for me
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I hate most of you guys.
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>>176349035
>>176349538
She is a rockin' mom
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Dumbo is an elephant
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>>176352908
>anonymous females
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1234 tell me that you lve me more 5678 try to keep your fingers straight all the people have all the papias
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>>176354626
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>>176354794
Yes
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>>176349538
>being a mom fucker
at least go for asgore
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I miss the artists
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>>176356190
quit being gay
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>>176356190
the whole child murderer thing is a turnoff
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>>176356190
>Fucking Asgore
That's gross famm
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>>176356203
I miss the anons
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I missed
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>>176357448
Yet here you are
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>>176357507
Just came to check in. I still do my service for the thread but I don't hang out here much anymore
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>>176353263
>observant anons
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>>176356203
I can try to draw something for you anon, just don't expect quality.
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you guys are bullies
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>>176357913
Draw sex.
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>>176357913
This but with Undyne
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>>176357913
Can you draw Papyrus getting really passionate about a movie or TV show he's watching with Flowey?
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>>176357945
t.cuck
Fuck off
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>>176357913
can you draw frisk held down by vines and flowey laying on her chest with a smug look on his face
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>>176357945
I'm gonna give you a hug.
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>>176357970
FORBODEN
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>asriel will never absorb your soul and have you live a comfy domestic life together

why live?
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>>176358018
I tried. I really did.
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>>176358635
I'll give you an A for effort.

You're churning out more content than I have lately. I really need to figure this UAC thing out, though i think I'm on the edge of a breakthrough. Hang tight errybody
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>>176358018
I did one too
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>>176358263
>her
FRISK IS NON BINARY YOU CIS FUCK
USE THEY/THEIR
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>>176359226
frisk is non-binary with perky tits and a cute vagina
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!
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>>176358049
Holy moly I need more practice with Papyrus.
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>>176359379
Thank you. I like the little chair. I imagine he put it in front of the couch so he could be closer to the screen.
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>>176359337
Can she take it like a pro?
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>>176358306
Stop cuddling the dumb cucks. We've almost got all of them to finally leave and look how nice utg is now. No more dumb drama or shitty characters being posted besides Chara and Asriel
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>>176360065
even better
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>>176359293
No he just has a feminine dick
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>>176360267
Excellent. #1 cat monster.
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>>176360354
>>176359293
Actually, they can shapeshift to suit everyone's needs. Their actual genitalia is a determination star until they turn it into a vagina or penis
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>>176360380
you know it
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>>176360491
It's a shame that there isn't as much art or lewd of her, desu.
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>>176360817
I know, but I'm busy with other stuff
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>>176360963
That's okay. I can understand real life business/school getting in the way of things. Those things are important to deal with.
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What happened to dezz
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>>176361491
He left this shitty place. Can you blame him?
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I want Alphys to fall on my face.
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what happened to doogle?
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>>176362401
he's in the discord
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>>176362401
Occasionally visits, but "officially" stopped writefag stuff, even though he made things after retiring. Sometimes he lurks.
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>>176362401
He's in the discord
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>>176362048
I too wish for soft, supple Lizard booby to squish on my face.
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>>176362048
That's the dream
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It is up to you, the anon, to make content!
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>>176362871
but I don't have time...
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>>176362048
why does Undyne have two left feet in this pic
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>>176362961
this is why she always wears boots
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what happened to actanon?
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>>176362871
FUCK
I'm in my office, all I have are sticky notes
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>>176362871
Someone else tag in, I'm tired.
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Daily reminder that Chara has frequent night terrors and therefore wets the bed often.
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>>176363136
goodnight goat
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>>176363136
After I'm done with some grueling coursework, Imma go ahead and write chapter 17.

Some re-writing of what I already have in very much in order, but i think I've got it figured out.
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Chara!
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>>176363225
What in the fresh hell
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>>176362583
>Alphys will never shock you with her booby
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>>176363549
I always thought boobs were supposed to be electrifying not electric.
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>>176364367
>he doesn't know boobs generate electricity
Found the virgin
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>>176364484
>>176364367
that's why people are shocked when the tits come out and play
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I heard something about lizard booby
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>>176366184
It's very good.
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Is it time for those real Asriel hours erryone?

Also, why are fingers so hard to draw, good grief.
As well as clothing folds. Shit's confusin'.
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>>176362871
im too nervous to post things i make
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>>176245389
I think that's only the case in some of the sprites. Toby fixed it in others.
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AUs
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Rip Asriel hours aha.
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>>176367920
sorry anon
im not a goat fag or anywhere close to one but i'll pitch in
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>>176367170
Here's as good a place as any to try. I only started writing back in March.
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>>176367920
not an asrielfag, but he's grown on me, so here you go
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>>176357448
>I POSTED IT AGAIN!
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>>176363221
You go Doomanon! Get that coursework ripped and torn!
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>>176368109
>>176368238
Ayy. What types of anons are ya? Thanks for the goats. I should broaden my horizons to doodle more than just my fav'.
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>>176367898
AUs are cute
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nowhere near enough floweyfags in this thread
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>>176368128
i mean, this is the only place i have ever really posted stuff before. it still makes me a nervous wreck and i have not posted anything for a long time. but this was the place that inspired me to make anything in the first place so there's always that.
>>176368370
i am a skelefag i've actually found asriel very fun to doodle. the only character i don't really like drawing is undyne, she is hard to draw
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>>176368420
I'm around, just not in full capacity
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>>176368420
Do Asrielfags count?

>>176368559
Which Skele? I'll try doin' something for ya if you'd like
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>>176368370
lizardfag with a side of small lazy skele

thanks for the nerds and goat, rare to see either of them with him, especially lizard
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>>176368661
only as much as they think they count
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>>176368559
Well in my experience the folks round here are really receptive to new content, and any criticism is pretty constructive. If you get the itch to doodle, I hope you enjoy it regardless of where you put it.
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>>176368724
I dunno if you were the Lizardfag I spoke to awhile back, but I really did try to find more Alphys ad Asriel together.

She probably had a hard time looking at him in the eye though. On the other hand, she successfully cloned the original Dreemurr? heh

>>176368963
I like to think we count ehe.

>>176369054
This man speaks the truth. Even gave me advice on where to improve on himself!
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>>176366184
http://68.media.tumblr.com/278f276826fa7f016176179af5d782af/tumblr_oppas0aGy11rc6lhmo1_1280.png
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>>176369267
cool then show some love to asriel looking like a flower because that's what i'm here for right now
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>>176369267
I can't believe Undyne built life-size wax dolls of her wife, father and little brother after they all died in that mysterious car accident
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>>176369787
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>>176369798
Aight. I'll do it for you anon.
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>>176370036
thanks here's flowey looking like a goat in return
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One and the same, but both are coolio.
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>>176369267
yeah, i doubt meeting would really go well for either of them, though asriel at least probably worked out most of his frustrations already as flowey
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>>176370164
Hey mang, I'm just gettin' started!

>>176370216
What type of anime do you think Alphys would show to Asriel though? As a peak into the genre hehe. I can imagine that being the first thing they do together after the reconcile
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>>176370216
>>176369267
Funny enough, I had this idea for a long time that once they get past the initial stage of him being a flower (since there really was no way she could have known that would happen), he'd actually be reluctantly thankful for one very specific thing.

She's the only outsider besides Frisk who knows of the plan, yet never told anyone and thereby preserved their terrible secret.
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>>176370359
Alphys is a lady of her word after all, aha.

Also, fuck, Friskriel works well with Flowey too.
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>>176370487
Second half of this is adorable as well. Sans helps out and Flowey flips his shit because he wanted to do it.
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>>176370487
How do you feel about Flowey's true form anyhow, anon? Just food for thought as I help ye out.
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>>176370604
yup
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>>176369054
i know but im more hard on myself than anyone else is
>>176368661
you don't have to do anything for me anon, youre kind to offer though
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>>176370624
love em both, but feel him as a flower doesn't get as much love as him as a goat
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good night
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>>176370850
good night cat
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>>176370289
he's a kid, so probably some kind of flashy shonen show, especially if she saw his taste in ocs

>>176370359
yeah, i can imagine asriel would be able to get over it, it's in his nature and he's had plenty of time to dwell on it. alphys would be harder, but she took care of the amalgamates already so i imagine she would be able to get over guilt with asriel too
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Here's a Harry Potter question I'm pondering for a minor not really plot-relevant bit in what I'm writing, and was curious if I was on the right path with it: What colour do you think Harry, Ron and Hermione's souls are?

Harry: It's pretty cliche, but I was leaning towards red. If not red, I'd give him yellow because his sense of justice is super keen, but he's also unquestionably brave, he's kind to the likes of Dobby and such, he perserveres like no tomorrow when it comes to training and practice. However I'd say he's of moderate integrity, willing to stray from the rules more than others, and he might not be particularly patient, so I'm not sure.

Ron: In spite of his fear of spiders, I'm leaning towards Orange. He's a fan of short cuts, so perserverence and integrity and patience aren't high on the list. He can be kind to his friends and family, but not beyond that, and his sense of justice feels stunted by comparison.

Hermione: Really confident she's blue. Even when she gets the stick up her butt about it removed she's a stickler for doing things properly. This partly overlaps with a sense of Justice she goes on to cultivate, but I'd say her main secondary trait is Perserverence, with all the effort she puts into studying.

Bonus - Voldemort: Want to say he's Chara!Red. While Determination can indicate a synthesis of the other six qualities, it can also denote a lack of them too. And damn if he's not persistent in what he tries to do.

Think I'm on the right track?
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>>176370216
>Day 15

Is this part of a bigger thing? Sauce?
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>>176370784
feel sorry for gote, didn't care about the flower that much, but started feeling sorry for him when I saw how a lot of post-TP stuff brutalizes him for fun. especially that comic where sans eats him that got posted here sometimes
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>>176370749
I know that feeling. I'm almost embarrassed by my first stab, written in the middle of my initial smol gote feels. And even on my latest project I feel while it's mechanically sound I don't quite have the juice to write something of really high quality, like someone else could take my outline and do an awesome job with it. Self-criticism is useful, but it's important to keep it in check too.
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>>176371046
https://bebetterbop.tumblr.com/post/131888019144/did-i-ever-tell-you-about-my-friend-frisk-they
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>>176370749
I probably couldn't fulfill it tonight either way. Despite just being doodles, I'm a stickler for perfection.

>>176370784
I feel ya. I actually used to dislike the flower. Thought they should be treated as separate entities like Asriel wanted.

But after spending a few weeks on here with you fine folk. I can't differentiate 'em anymore.
If anything I'm on the verge of making my own AU or somethin' on how a saved Asriel is unintentionally belligerent to others at times because it was the one thing he got a kick out of as a flower.

With a side of Frisk trying to help him out of course.

>>176370942
I haven't watched a shounen in awhile.
Hrm... Maybe Shokugeki no Souma?
Asriel seems like the type to get into cooking, maybe using the Dreemurr fire magic to help him out here and there aha.

>>176370961
Got a guide to soul colors O'no?
Not really familiar with the color scale. Was this ever mentioned in the vanilla game? If so I missed it.
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>>176371164
don't remind me that comic exists
life is already hard enough as it is for a card-carrying member of the flowey fan club
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>>176371335
I only ever saw a couple of pages posted, how bad did it get?
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>>176371329
honestly, even when asriel asked in-game to be regarded separately from flowey, that only came off to me as a kid trying to distance himself from his own trauma
but then that's a whole other psychoanalytical post that i don't feel like going into right now
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>>176371479
i stopped reading around the time chara's ghost suddenly showed up to get mad about... something?
but i get occasional updates from a buddy that we laugh sadly over
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>>176371329
Light Blue - Patience
Orange - Bravery
Blue - Integrity
Green - Kindness
Purple - Perserverence
Yellow - Justice
Red - Determination

As an aside, The dialogue on your doodle is a little confusing. "Did you really think I didn't like to stop messing with people" implies "I actually did like to stop messing with people". Like "You idiot, I'm actually a nice guy now". I like your expression though, and it's a good bet that Asriel would have the instincts of Flowey on some level that he needs to reign in, even if he hates that he has them.
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Alphys is cute! CUTE!!
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>>176371329
>If anything I'm on the verge of making my own AU or somethin' on how a saved Asriel is unintentionally belligerent to others at times because it was the one thing he got a kick out of as a flower.

We need more stuff like this. I like goatfluff as much as the next Asrielfag but I also have to admit almost all of it is either disgustingly saccharine or cartoonishly fucks up the trauma in the way only a Tumblrite desperately fishing for ally points can. Overtale seems to be doing this right and it's glorious to behold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdzfHHXKbyg
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>>176371592
Yeppers. The more you think about it, the more awful it becomes for the poor kid.

For example, Flowey/Asriel aren't the same kid that died holding off Chara. He's an animated flower using the personality of the kid that died.

If Flowey/Asriel somehow manages to to get saved a la Endertale, or Dreemurr Reborn, I'm surprised that this issue hasn't come up. Well, technically it did in DR but it was glossed over.

I'm sure Asriel, aside from having to deal with his compulsive tendencies to bully people - gained as a flower, also has to deal with an identity crisis of.

Do my parents really love me? A duplicate of their original son that died long ago? That kind of thing.

>>176371910
Aw jeez. The dialogue was mostly made on a whim. It was actually part of a larger sheet I posted as my second doodle ever on /utg/.

Doesn't help that I sometimes do these on a whim, where one moment, I'm handling Economic theory and Financing, with the next, I'm thinkin' of drawin' Asriel.

As for the Trio's soul colors - I'll get back to you on that with another post.

I'll probably need to sleep soon. It's a miracle I managed to even free up today for leisure.

>>176372108
Seriously though, you guys give me some of the craziest ideas haha.

First I feel like drawin', then I'm thinkin of maybe coding something for a certain AU, then having crazy ideas like my own AU.

I'm usually not too keen on sugary stuff though. I keep it real, although I like to have my Asriel as close to canon as can be. DR and Endertale giving me the fix, although the wait is killer for both of 'em.
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>>176372090
Without a doubt!
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>>176372108
I'm not the biggest fan of this AU in general, but I like the idea of Asriel keeping some of his flowery darkness, and not just dropping all the trauma and everything completely.
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>>176372280
>Do my parents really love me? A duplicate of their original son that died long ago? That kind of thing.

While I personally consider pre-and-post-death one and the same (largely because Toby doesn't really explain much about the difference between essence and soul), there's a lot of great ideas that could be exploited with this.

One I've put aside for the longest time now is a scenario of sticking it a bit to tumblr and such. Flowey gets treated in exactly the kind of shitty way a lot of people run with in comics (save for Papyrus and Frisk), and when through some machination he turns back to Asriel, they fawn over him. Except this kind of experience would only fuck him up even more and he'd end up basically shacking up with just about anyone else and being pretty damn mad over people only giving a shit about him now that he's gote again.
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>>176372581
Dude that sounds amazing. I'm a lazy bastard but I've been considering doing an anthology of pisstakes along those lines. If I ever actually get around to it, would you mind if I used it?
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>>176372280
It's interesting to wonder how much of a line you can draw from pre-Chara Asriel to Flowey to saved Asriel. Are they all the one person who has gone through radical changes, or are they three separate beings. The crucial link is what you think of monster essence. Whether that's a literal concept or it's a bit more metaphysical. Saved Asriel is not the same as pre-Chara Asriel, but in my own opinion that's a result of the trauma of his death and reincarnation and being divorced from his empathy than being a duplicate. That's how I roll on this Ship of Theseus question. Better folks than I have explored this more effectively though. Although I do like how in my HP fic the fact that Asriel isn't as concerned as you'd think about his time as Flowey is actually a plot point.
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>>176372280
in most of my experience with "save asriel" aus, that trauma gets more or less ignored save for maybe one or two offhand mentions so i tend to not follow them out of feeling that his character is getting cheapened somehow by ignoring such a big part of his development
it will sometimes get referenced in houseplant flowey stuff, but even then the stories tend to turn into flowey abuse in some way or another
someday there will be a decent middle ground.... but until then i come to utg for my flowey fix

anyway it's late so i'll post one last pic (art by me this time) and say good night
see y'all later
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>>176372893
Sure, go ahead. I've had so much stuff come up that my writing time has basically been destroyed, so hell knows if I'd ever get even close to it.

>>176372904
Yeah, I think due to the lack of info, it's really hard to come down one side or the other. I've seen people argue how much Flowey's behavior resembles that of heavy PTSD and I can totally buy that. I just wish more post-game stuff actually kept the bad things as well, beyond just crankiness.

>>176372924
Same here, I really yearn for interesting Flowey stuff, but it's hard to come buy. I will note though, do check out japanese stuff, because they're very big fans of him and I've seen several really good versions, where they deal with his issues even-handedly.

Sleep well, anon!
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>>176370961
>>176371910
Alright after thinking about it a bit I should have my thoughts. Although you nailed some on the head so I'm not so sure how to feel.

Harry/Vold being Red is good. Stereotypical isn't bad y'know. It fits the theme. Their dynamics and whatnot. I must profess I haven't even started reading your fic though, even though I said I will. I'll probably blaze through it once the semester wraps up however.

Without looking at your thought I was leaning towards a Justice angle for Hermione. Justice could also be a part of sticking to the law, the rules, what works. And, she's a heroic type. That's just me though.

No comment on Ron sadly. It's been years since I've read through HP, and I'll probably need to refresh myself on his character.

>>176372581
Is Toby officially a hack yet? heh.
Anyways, with what happened to Azzy, it's just so dang exploitable like you said.

Although if an idea like this shoots off, I think for the most part, Flowey is mostly liked or considered an ambivalent creature.

Alphys knows who he truly is. Sans despises him for good reason.

Undyne, and Asgore probably don't know and or remember him because Flowey kept resetting.

Toriel seems to know him prior but regards him as an "ugly" creature. In which case, I can definitely see Asriel going with what you said. "Do you not love me anymore for what I became?" (let's not forget that she kinda torched him in the first five minutes of the game)

>>176372904
It really does boil down to what monster essence is. From the game, face value it just appears so much as dust. The equivalent of human ash, but a metaphysical POV is just as understandable.

I'm still undecided on how to really feel about the ship of thesus question on Azzy myself. But I'll keep these idea balls rollin'.

>>176372924
Flowey Abuse? Elaborate. Compared to y'all I'm basically a young'n in the UT fandom, so I'm not exactly sure how a lot of interpretations have transpired and whatnot.
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good night anons
thanks for being there
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>>176373373
>>176372924
Hey hey, have a good one you two.

Thanks for keepin' the topic interestin.
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>>176373148
i try to get into the japanese stuff, but i can only get so much out of it while not actually understanding a lick of japanese
night!

>>176373302
all i can say is don't read a blog called i'll try to be good unless you really wanna see sans undertale vore flowey while he screams and cries like the child he is stated to be in the blog's canon
but seriously it's too late for me to go into this stuff so til i stop lurking again later m8
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>>176372581
>>176373302
Whoops, my train of thought got a bit jumbled speaking to three different people at once

Let me rephrase myself:
Since Asriel, as Flowey reset everyone's memories for the most part, most monsters have no idea who he is.

The only ones who seem to know aside from Alphys and Sans are Toriel, and Papyrus.

Toriel, attacks her own son in the first five minutes of UT calling him a "deplorable" creature (I don't remember the exact line anymore)

Papyrus only seems to interact with Flowey at the end, to guide him to the Barrier Room to stop Asgore's assault on Frisk.

But the thing is, in previous resets, Flowey talks about how Papyrus and him got along /very/ well. Flowey Fan Club and whatnot.

With this knowledge in tow, for the most part, people seem to like Flowey. He just comes across as a dick, but doesn't really do anyone harm because no one remembers it.

But coming across as a dick is different from actually being one, if you get my point here aha.

>>176373616
I won't anyways. But thanks for the heads up.
I'm not one to lewd the Undertales anyhow.
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>>176373302
>Alphys knows who he truly is. Sans despises him for good reason.
That's really debatable. If she knew precisely who Flowey is, she would have mentioned it in some form, at least when he chose to reveal himself in TP. Sans also is implied to suspect much more than he actually knows. He's pretty sure there's an anomaly, and probably has deja vu like others, but he doesn't seem to be able to specifically pinpoint who or what it is.

But yeah, I've seen wildly different variations, some where he's loved, some where he's barely tolerated. Sans (or others) threatening him with injury is fairly common joke material though, more so than for other characters.

>(let's not forget that she kinda torched him in the first five minutes of the game)
To be fair, that made perfect sense in context and even Flowey would understand that, as he was very clearly the aggressor in the situation. If you wanna look at why he'd resent Toriel, look at the Echo Flower conversation, where he mimics Toriel's voice and afterwards claims she'll abandon Frisk anyone, just like she had everyone else. It's meant to demoralize and anger Frisk, but reveals a lot about him as well.

>Flowey Abuse? Elaborate. Compared to y'all I'm basically a young'n in the UT fandom, so I'm not exactly sure how a lot of interpretations have transpired and whatnot.

Most of that boils down to Flowey just being a completely acceptable target. This makes sense during the game, but in post-TP, it just comes off as sociopathic to consider him 'just a flower, who gives a shit', or as a talking plant rather than a person with (limited) feelings. There's a somewhat known comic that started as Flowey redemption and then railroaded into stuff like Sans cutting off and eating a part of him before his eyes and this is treated with Sans being in the right; Frisk somehow killing his sense of self so badly that when he's gifted a plush he fearfully asks if he's allowed to name it without Frisk's permission, and such.
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>>176373750
I would say in Toriel's defence, he was trying to kill Frisk at the time, and in her mindset killing a child is pretty deplorable. And nearly any depiction of her learning the truth about him and bringing up that meeting usually renders her horror struck. And now I'm realising I missed a trick not bringing it up myself when I briefly brought up Asgore's horror at his own role in the reincarnation
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>>176373302
>Flowey Abuse? Elaborate. Compared to y'all I'm basically a young'n in the UT fandom, so I'm not exactly sure how a lot of interpretations have transpired and whatnot.

There's an overwhelming amount of people who completely missed the point of Asriel/Flowey as a character and think it's a Jekyll & Hyde situation. This means they've turned Flowey into a convenient punching bag since "he's" "the one" that "did all the bad things" (completely ignoring the entirety of the Hyperdeath fight and all the awful, horrid shit he was saying there)
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>>176373957
Which always strikes me as weird, because Asriel never even tries to excuse his actions, the most he says is basically 'if things didn't turn out the way they did, I never would have done these kind of things', but he fully admits his role. I guess it's just because people don't want to pile the baggage on Asriel, which is sad because it honestly adds a whole new dimension to his character.
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Is there anyone as cool as Papyrus
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>>176374104
His dialogue is slightly ambiguous. "I did weird stuff as a flower" is a strong suggestion that he considers himself and Flowey one and the same, for good or ill, while imploring Frisk to think of them as separate people contradicts that, though I like the belief that he's trying to make Frisk leaving him behind easier on them.
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>>176374270
He's definitely trying to push Frisk away from the very start of that conversation, though I suspect partly because he doesn't want to make it worse for them, but also himself, since at this point he very much likes Frisk, but knows that'll vanish once he's back to Flowey
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Aw jeez, it's getting late. I need to get some shut eye. Thanks for chattin' with me about UT theory though!

>>176373884
>That's really debatable. If she knew precisely who Flowey is, she would have mentioned it in some form
Wasn't she about to mention it? When Pap' went off about how a Golden Flower ended up guiding him to the barrier room. Alphys looked shocked, since she was the one that sorta reanimated Asriel and all.

I've never heard the echo flower conversation sadly. I'll see if it's on Youtube, since I missed it in my run.

But from what you're saying, I take it Toriel must have abandoned Asriel (as Flowey) at one point? Something caused a rift, that made sure they never interacted well? (Assuming that he reset and never told her that he's the reanimated essence of her dead son)

But like >>176373920
says, you're both right on the situation on hand. I was looking a bit too deeply with words being said rather than what was happening.

Although, does she find the other monsters that attack Frisk in the ruins to be deplorable? Intense glaring not withstanding aha.

>>176373957
>>176374104
>>176374270

I see. I didn't think the abuse would stretch that far in the fandom though. This is coming from someone who viewed the two as two separate entities as well, and actually disliked Flowey for awhile.

But then I figured the whole story and realized, sheesh, it sucks to be Asriel.

Not to mention, it also sucks that his one "best friend" just so happens to hack him into oblivion. But I'm gonna say Toby's a hack with Chara too. It's hard for me to like her though, I mean come on. She hacks both goat and flower forms in one go. That's just.. hm.
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>>176374662
I'm calling it a night on a happier note.
Stay coolio utg ahah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4oKPjCxeKA

If any of y'all want a doodle, I'll try to do so before the week ends!
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>>176374662
Toby didn't put much thought into Chara despite them having fairly major influence on the world.
He wrote them in an inconsistent manner, it feels like he wrote them in whenever he had a somewhat interesting idea for them.

Most interpretations of Chara stem from the headcanons surrounding them i.e. usually Charrator comes out with a sarcastic and pessimistic Chara.

Also they are cute and have a cool partner.
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>>176374662
>Wasn't she about to mention it? When Pap' went off about how a Golden Flower ended up guiding him to the barrier room. Alphys looked shocked, since she was the one that sorta reanimated Asriel and all.
No, she knew there was a reanimated flower running around, but she had no way of knowing it was Asriel, as his essence bonding with the flower was completely unexpected. She chose the flower for significance, not because the garden had monster dust. It's possible he told him in some runs, but not in the current one.

>I've never heard the echo flower conversation sadly. I'll see if it's on Youtube, since I missed it in my run.
Definitely look it up, it's very interesting.

>But from what you're saying, I take it Toriel must have abandoned Asriel (as Flowey) at one point? Something caused a rift, that made sure they never interacted well? (Assuming that he reset and never told her that he's the reanimated essence of her dead son)
Nah, I don't think it's anything that serious, it's something just as sad, but different. We know he went to her after he couldn't feel anything from Asgore, and what would he find there? The shoes of six previous kids. Six kids she's taken in and cared for. Six kids /that were not him/. That'd upset any child, much more so if you consider the trauma he's already been through.
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>>176374907
To be honest, most of what we know for sure about Chara is neutral-to-negative, but people really don't like the idea that people who suffer can end up inflicting suffering as well, so that gave a rise to a lot of very angsty and saccharine interpretations.

I don't mind most of them, only ones that really try to brush everything off. Though it's interesting to note, a lot of times the psychological trauma Flowey/Asriel very likely have get passed down to Sans or Chara instead.
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>>176374224
Those he personally deems to be cool are almost as cool as him
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>>176374104
Most of them haven't played the game and only like the idea of having a fluffy pure cinnamon bun goatbro for either depraved fetishistic sex or cuddles, which plays a big part in why Asrielfags are reviled so much. It's this bizarre split where you have the little girls who are weird and don't like Sans for some reason on one side and sexual predators in the making on the other.
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>>176375437
Alphys showing kid Asriel a manga book.
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>>176375126
Sans just hordes trauma because of his bad fandom. He has to be the best at everything, including being angsty.

With Chara, I've always seen them as some messed up kid who found a loving family, but accidentally poisoned their adoptive dad and got further messed up which lead to their plan, they spend countless years as some disembodied presence unable to feel absolutely anything until Frisk shows up and then they feel Frisk's love/LOVE.

Both Chara and Asriel have to have some sweet with the sour, too saccharine is boring and too much edgy and it stops feeling like Undertale.
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>>176375731
I liked the fic with the Psychologist OC, because it takes a good stab at not blunting any of the trauma Asriel would be feeling but yet taking the effort to guide him to a mostly happy place, even if he still has issues. She also hooks up with and sleeps with Sans, which would normally put me off but neither that or the fact it focuses on an OC at all bothers me, which is unusal.
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>>176375731
People go ballistic when someone suggests Chara may have been abusive towards Asriel, but I honestly can't see it any other way. Sure, that might just be me, but I've spent a lot of time in large summer camps with multiple siblings and whenever one questioned another about trust, or had them swear secrecy over bad things beyond petty mischief, things often ended up being pretty abusive.

I can totally buy Chara loving the monsters and the Dreemurrs (in whatever twisted way they could), but I also think their altruism towards them came at the expense of empathy towards their own kind and were fully intent in purging humanity. If anything, their fatal flaw to me, would be not letting go of the past.
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>>176370942
I like that Alphys is inside the anime box.
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>>176375437
Tsunderplane in an onsen
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>>176375437
your favorite doing the first thing they do when they appear in the game
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>>176375490
Is there irony in using a fanfic to essentially criticise the concept of fanfic? Because that's what your pic feels like, specific Undertale trappings set aside
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>>176375928
What bothered me most about that fic was that at at least five different occasions, the following happened:
>bigoted racists (I think the story literally refers to them as that most of the time) show up and yell mean things
>OC yells back that they're bigoted racists
>all the mean bigoted racists don't know what to say and leave
It kept happening again and again and it completely shattered my suspension of disbelief every time, more than anything else did. It almost felt like a parody.
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>>176376378
That's pretty standard. Watchmen contains critique of comic books, Jerk City contains critique of webcomics, and Undertale contains critique of video games.
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>>176376475
Yeah, the conflict with humans is the weakest part of it, especially when it escalates in the later chapters. But I do like when she's working through the monsters' baggage, it feels pretty genuine when it focuses on that.
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>>176375314
No shoes
Always blushing
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>>176376574
Good point, I hadn't considered that. Though Watchmen and Undertale (haven't read Jerk City) are more deconstructive in their criticism, showing the costs and consequences of the standard devices of the medium. That fic is more overtly "hey this is dumb".
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>>176376475
This honestly sounds like those "and everyone stood up and clapped" kind of things. To be honest, I've just grown to really dislike the 'all humans are bastards' trope, just for how fucking lazy it is. Give me a renegade monster sect instead, who view the barrier's destruction as nothing but trouble and hold Frisk personally responsible.

>>176376736
What you're looking for is 'subtlety'. If the criticism is woven into the story, it still gives you an experience and a narrative of its own, on top of the general criticism. When it's heavy-handed and wielded like a hammer in that excerpt, it quickly comes off as annoying and far too self-absorbed.
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>>176376068
Asgore's line
>Young one, when I look at you... I'm reminded of the human that fell here long ago... You have the same feeling of hope in your eyes.
Gives me the impression that Chara genuinely loved the Dreemurrs.
The reason I brought up Asgore's poisoning is that I see it as the catalyst for Chara's plan. In that act Chara sees a Human hurting a Monster, and it brings back all that hatred for Humanity.
When Asriel says Chara wasn't a great person, I think he was referring to Chara's plan to murder Humans. I don't think (nor do I think Toby would write) that Chara abused Asriel physically and emotionally.
But I do agree that Chara's biggest flaw was not letting go of their past.
Also Chara probably had some kind of unresolved mental health issues, so I don't completely hold everything against them.
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>>176375437
Can you draw Undyne accidentally destroying Alphys's house with an extravagantly massive flower bouquet
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>>176376475
>>176376638
>>176376906
So happy to know I'm not the only one who's noticed how overdone that shtick is (it's on par with a female reader who ends up with Sans in my eyes) and hates it. It's even worse when the writer makes the characters so OOC and terrible that the racists are the lesser evil.

>Give me a renegade monster sect instead, who view the barrier's destruction as nothing but trouble and hold Frisk personally responsible.

Overtale's doing something along those lines
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>>176376906
It's not even the "humans are bad" thing I mind in this case, it's the "humans are badly written" thing. It's like the writer tried to work out how to win an argument after it was over, or fantasized about a scenario in which she could stand up to ebil racists, and then inserted it, word for word, into a story that's otherwise decently written and explores its characters as real people.
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>>176377015
I always frame Chara's actions as their pain winning out over their love. And their love ironically reinforcing the pain as they learn of the barrier and what humans like those of their village did to these nice people.

>>176376906
It's not all humans, just random people (and later a group) turning up, fortunately. It's still the weakest part.
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>>176377015
I want to add that I find the Genocide stuff to be inexcusable in any circumstances.
In that they're a literal megalomaniac psychopath destroying Pacifist endings.

I suppose that's Toby's idea of a fair Genocide route punishment.
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>>176377015
>The reason I brought up Asgore's poisoning is that I see it as the catalyst for Chara's plan. In that act Chara sees a Human hurting a Monster, and it brings back all that hatred for Humanity.
>When Asriel says Chara wasn't a great person, I think he was referring to Chara's plan to murder Humans. I don't think (nor do I think Toby would write) that Chara abused Asriel physically and emotionally.

I don't see these the same way. There are many different levels to this and it doesn't even have to be intentional. That's the awful thing about the cycle of abuse, you can easily end up committing things just as bad as done to you, simply because those have been your cues throughout life. But I've no more canon in my hands than you do, so we can meet halfway and I'm alright with your interpretation of events. The only thing I stick to is that at the pivotal moment, they purposely chose vengeance over just freeing monsters, which ties into the whole 'not letting go' thing.

I think if Chara didn't commit to the plan, or Asriel ended up telling their parents, it would have worked out. They would have remained rough around the edges, but the long years with the kind Dreemurrs and monsters would have mellowed them out.

>>176377262
Funny enough, that could be taken as an interesting trait. Why don't the monsters want to massacre humans who did the same? Why do they just want to survive, live and let live? Humans are evil, humans are awful! If they won't do anything, clearly Chara has to give the starting push!

Different, but interesting I think.
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>>176377140
>>176377162
>>176377262
It always looks to me like they're just there to give a permissible villain fodder. I can totally roll with some distrust, or fear, but it's never subtle. It's almost always taken to such comical degree, that always makes me think the writer doesn't actually know racism and they can only think in exaggerated anonymous internet racism.
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>>176377469
>they purposely chose vengeance over just freeing monsters
Yeah, this is the core of what I think about Chara and the plan. I don't believe it would have stopped at six.
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>>176377575
There was once scene later on where the OC was talking with a politician who was talking about some issues with integration and "maybe we should just wait until the time is right", and I thought that was a much way to handle it. Could have done with more of that.
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>>176375571
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>>176377749
*much better way
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>>176377828
Not OR but this is cute! I like your style.
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>>176377828
Adorable! Thank you very much crybleat!
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gas the monsters race war now

chara did nothing wrong
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>>176378025
chara wanted to destroy humanity, not the monsters
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>>176378025
filthy humie go home

we monster-earth now
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The best Post-TP villain idea is always Gaster.
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Does a human who absorbs a boss monster gain any benefit besides an unlimited ticket through the barrier? Do they gain powers or even the ability to talk to who they absorbed, or does something more drastic happen?
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>>176378025
Monsters need to be separated from humans.
Let them have a hemisphere or something.
Barrier 2.0 where it's just a ring around the world, humans can't get in this time.
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>>176378070
exactly

barrier technology was not advanced enough to contain all those monsters. theres no evidence the so called underground ever existed
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>>176378187
That's unknown. It canonically never happened, we don't even know how they know it's possible.
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>>176378187
They get a Toriel or Asgore as a companion for the rest of their existence.

That might be why the other humans gave up, they didn't want Asgore talking about missing his family and friends in their heads for the rest of their lives.
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>>176378138
The Riverperson does say to beware of him, after all.
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>>176378187
All we know is that it gives power, allows passage through the barrier and very likely results in a somewhat monstrous look, judging by the unsettling image next to the murals. Considering the control issues it's possible there is some communication between the absorbed souls as well, but even that's kind of speculation.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_OGx0DU0AE0Vlm.jpg:orig
thats harsh sans
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>tfw last dadfag on utg
feels lonely
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7sXdalU8AIVsPj.jpg:orig
i need more asshole sans
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>>176378450
On an edge scale of Putt-Putt to nuDante, I'll give it a Shadow the Hedgehog.
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>>176378547
You've been saying that so long, it finally became true!
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>>176378547
Then stop coming here
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>>176344920
> me and Chara vs Pontiff Sullivahn and the Saint of the Deep

Sounds about right.
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>>176378642
no u
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>>176344920
>Papyrus and I are teamed up with Domon and Master Asia in the Gundam fight

Papyrus and the School of the Undefeated of the East would do splendidly, but I would probably wind up dragging the team down.
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>>176378718
There's a reason fans of the good goats are still here and fans of the worst goat is just limited to you.

Take a hint
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>>176344920
Breath of the Wild + Undertale?
Me and Undyne join forces with Sidon and Mipha

I want to be part of that fishy foursome.
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>>176379101
im not him
take a hint
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7WL7BMU8AEQ_5l.jpg:orig
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>>176379236
>White knighting a cuck
Get a life
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>>176379101
I like dad too
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>>176379448
>>176379448
>>176379448

Go when ready
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new thread when
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>>176379481
New thread now, but we should finish off this one first.
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>>176379420
youve spent a staggering amount of time and energy trying to make this thread a worse place
maybe you should take your own advice
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>>176374993
> The shoes of six previous kids. Six kids she's taken in and cared for. Six kids /that were not him/.
Nice, thanks for putting it that way. This gives me ideas for some lines of dialogue for a pre-planned chapter. Thanks.
> Flowey intending to bring Dreemurrs back together
> catches them when they're already heavily shaken up
> rattles down the flaws and mistakes of both of them
> while talking to Toriel
> Did you never think to yourself...'If by some miracle, Asriel was knocking at my door, what would he find?'
> What would he find indeed?
> Flowey puts on edgy face
> The shoes of children
> The shoes of children she replaced him with.
> You loved that warm, fulfilling feeling of being a mother.
> But Asriel, whether you cared about him?
> Whether you loved him?
> I don't think so.
> Flowey laughs hysterically while dodging Toriel's fireballs
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>>176379742
Anytime. I don't even know why people keep overlooking it, it's such a perfect little tidbit of character. Just think about how hard it hits some kids when their parents break the news of a new sibling. Now multiply that by six, and a divorce, AND all of Flowey's previous trauma.
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>>176378138
What about humans? Or a human? Someone abusing the newly discovered magic monsters have.
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>>176371910
Red is not Determination. All the Souls have Determination, and the Red Soul has all 6 traits.
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say my name
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>>176331289
You're welcome! Glad to provide inspiration.
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>>176390836
A-anon~?
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>>176390836
Flamey Flamesy?
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