/fhg/ - For Honor General

1st for my dick is bigger than yours

Reminder that the only balanced characters are Warden, Conq and LB.

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>>176216213
This b8 from last thread. Leave it there.

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@176216213

I'm pretty sure the gear modifier values chart in the OP will have to be thrown out soon, what with the coming stat changes in season 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBFC3xC4Tk8


C E N T U R I O N

WILL BE A BETTER KENSEI

>Parry kensei as kensei
What now? A light? Are you fucking serious?

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Which faction campaign was the most enjoyable?

>>176216476

Vikings

I just went against a Raider who claimed Raider is worse than Kensei. Is he delusional? Even though my winrate as Kensei is technically better than Raider, I feel like Raider is over all just better. More versatile tools and able to effectively counter Wardens.

>>176216476
Vikangz, then Knights. Samurai was just awful.

>>176216447
Ive been a kensei main since beta and I don't understand what you're talking about. Elaborate?

>>176216291
>>176216348
It's not b8, it's the truth. Kensei is OP because he's nothing but dash attacks, grabs and heavies. Same deal with the Roach. Shugoki is bullshit because he can just facefuck you through your attacks. Nobushi is broken because there's no way to tell what angle she's attacking from, same applies to PK. They're too fast. Raider is broken bullshit because his heavies have absolutely busted hitboxes that are bigger than they appear, and if you happen to get stunned then that savage viking bastard is just going to molest you and throw you around like a doll. I bet half the faggots in this thread get off to that. Warlord is Conq but way too good, Berserker is also too fucking fast just like Nobushi and PK. Finally Valk, the most busted character ingame. If you somehow manage to dodge her leg sweep she'll just grab you immediately after your dodge and put you back in the loop. None of these characters are fair, and don't fucking spout "lmao git gud" like this is Dark Souls. These characters need to be fixed. You can finally roll out of Warden's shoulderbash + r1 combo, so he's finally balanced. Conq is just slow and weak, and LB is fucking LB. The only reason anyone will defend the Vikings or Samurai is because they're filthy fucking furries or filthy fucking weeaboos.

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>>176216615
I think he doesn't know about dash+gb lmao

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@176216680

@176216680
Just stop, you're not getting any more (you)s

>>176216476
Depends on what you were looking for. The Knight campaign had plenty of large setpieces and unique locations, and the Vikings had some of the most varied activities and some of the most personality. The Samurai also had a bunch to do, but there were fewer side characters to play as (Ayu vs. Mercy/Holden vs. Stigandr/Runa). The Vikings and Samurai were the biggest power fantasy stories: the Raider singlehandedly rallies all the Vikings under him and sacks the Samurai capital, while the Orochi is constantly talked up and is ultimately the one who brings down Apollyon.

lmao weebs and savages don't like it when I call them out on their faction's characters being blatantly broken :^)

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>play shugo against orochi
>guard top
>if they zone you get a free gb
>if they try to gb they get a light and a headbutt in the face
Is this the answer to roaches plaguing the game?

>>176216936
Pleas explain what weebs and savages characters are broken other than warlord?

>>176216876
>knights did fuck all
>were just the tutorial
>never won a round
>dead last season 1

>>176217023
Literally all of them, I just made a detailed post.

>>176216876
>Orochi is constantly talked up and is ultimately the one who brings down Apollyon.
I thought that was really weird, Orochi just shows up and wrecks both the Warden and Apollyon like its nothing

>>176217068
>Won the beta and got a stylish as fuck emblem border as a result

Watch your mouth, savage

>>176217212
>beta kangz and weebs even got cucked out of a silver and bronze version
lmao

>>176217119
Because he's the Emperor's Chosen. If he wasn't in prison for talking shit to the Emperor, the Raider would've never made it to the capital. Also, the Orochi gets to kill Apollyon because it completes the circle of final bosses being someone outside your faction (Warden vs. Gudmundr, Raider vs. Tozen, Orochi vs. Apollyon).

>>176217389
>he's
did you just assume the gender of my Orochi

I stopped playing the story after the first roach mission. Does the roach kill your warden?

>>176217653
no but he fights him

>>176217016

Conq is better agaisnt them. Their zone gives you a free gb and you don't even have to take damage for it.

>>176217389
>tfw no hidden fourth act that unveils itself after you finish the prior 3
>tfw huge cast of characters never gets together and does buddycop shit
>tfw never gonna see stone hitting on runa
>tfw never gonna have a character driven story where these factions that are supposed to hate eachother grow into a competent team
>tfw never gonna hunt down apollyon with our task force
>tfw never gonna have a 3 part apollyon fight where each phase has you play as a different MC

coulda been great

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>>176216680
2/10

you took the time to type it out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rs8ISqbWuY

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>>176217528
fite me

>>176217653
No. The Orochi and Momiji sneak into Ashfeld to find Apollyon. There, they find the Warden (along with Stone [conqbro], Mercy and Holden) reforming the Iron Legion after deserting the Blackstone Legion. After getting a wounded Momiji to safety, Orochi is forced to confront Warden, who apologizes for what happened and insists he's no longer Blackstone. Orochi doesn't care and whips Warden's ass in a duel but spares him. Warden points Orochi towards The Strond, the home base of the Blackstones.

>>176217212
>>176217324
>play kniggers in beta
>pick vikings for s1
>win both
i must be psychic

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>>176218012
I like how the Roach is toted as the best of the three main characters.

>Warden: Dumb idiot who fell for Apollyon's tricks and got bodied by Superior Roach
>Raider: Dumb asshole who just likes to steal shit, has no importance on the story as a whole.
>Roach: Personal sword to the Emperor, only put in prison for speaking out of turn. Is the greatest swordsman on the planet, and had the honor of killing Apollyon himself.

You should've gotten the choice of which of the main characters got the final fight.

>30fps warden top light can't be parried
>but deflecting works 100% of the time if you do it as soon as you see red.
?????????

>join duel
>opponent uses light attacks
>leave

just me?

Is Berserker the best assassin? I'm not very good at the game, but I want to try to olay on a higher level, and Im prob gonna use him.

>>176219112
>>176218012

Whats odd is

>Main character for Knights is a Vanguard
>Main character for Vikings is a Vanguard
>Main character for vanguard is a Assassin

>>176219385
>Join duel
>Opponent doesn't let me win
>Screech in anger and break my mouse

Anyone else?

>>176219395
PK is objectively better.

>>176219236
>30fps warden top light can't be parried

Yes they can.
t. PS4 Raider main

>>176219236

what is it that amkes console unparriable just the fps?

>>176219395
PK is the best assassin because she can just spam lights at you

HOWEVER, berserker IS good when played by someone capable and becomes literally unparryable

>>176219458
Tv must be faulty, I can parry everything but warden top light.

>>176219112
Agreed.

Honestly, I really didn't like the Samurai segment of the campaign. You were forced to play as Roach almost the whole time, and they made their character such an unbelievable Mary Sue. I honestly think you should've played as Ayu, maybe with breaks to play as Roach/Momiji/Shug dude (just like how both of the other stories had breaks for Holden/Mercy/Stigandr/Runa).

>>176219497
30fps means less frames and less time to react
There was a 60fps webm of nobushi top light and you practically had a entire second to see the warning.

>>176219528
have you got it set to game mode?

>>176219630

alright imma try 30 on my pc

>>176219528
If you're on PS4, feel free to open the browser and find some online reaction time test. Human Benchmark is pretty inconsistent, but it can at least give you an idea of how much delay you're playing with.

Make sure your TV is set to Game Mode, and use a wired controller if you have one.

>>176219630
>30fps means less frames and less time to react

That is not how FPS works you goober.

>>176219630
1 frame is like, 33ms on console, that's a negligible difference when a move is 500ms, and average human reaction time is 250-270ms

>>176219112
>Raider: Dumb asshole who just likes to steal shit, has no importance on the story as a whole.
Raider successfully sacking the samurai capital is why Ayu and company busted Orochi out of prison.

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>>176220072
I'll amend that then.
>Raider: Dumb asshole who only serves as a catalyst for the much better, stronger, and all around cooler actual Main Character's story, the Roach.
The fact that Warden comes back, but Raider just dies on the way back to his home planet is dumb.

>>176219509
As a player who has mained both, I can confirm this. PK is much easier to play though. You really don't even have to feints a a PK against most players. Just lol light ZA side dash to victory.

They should seriously just delete PK. What a fucking skillless class.

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>>176220072
Raider was the single most important character in apollyon's plans, bro.

>>176220268
Nah, Raider leads the Viking charge into the Strand while Apollyon is gloating immediately after Orochi mortally wounds her.

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Does anyone have trouble against the fucking Warlord? I swear to god he's so fucking annoying. It seems almost impossible to not get rushed down by him. Plus his attacks feel on par with PK, I'm so heated because of this character.

>>176221085
>Does anyone have trouble against the fucking Warlord?

The entire community, yes.

>>176221160

speak for yourself scrub

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>>176220268
>>176220509
This is my theory (I didn't get all the breakables and shit so someone might be able to counter what i say). Remember in the knights story, they were about to execute that Raider? Then Apollyon says nah, lets make him ours. Then in the Viking's story the Warborn Raider "mysteriously" returns to unite the Vikings. Maybe the other Raider and Zerker knew about him defecting and that's why they recognized him. They take back the ship yard that "Just so happens" to have Samurai loot on the ships? And then the Raider tells all the vikings they should raid the Samurai instead of getting revenge on the Knights. Perhaps Apollyon knew what may happen and then told the Raider to attack the blackstone legion's main base if it was being sacked, thus explaining why the Vikings came back at the end. Meanwhile the Vikings all just thought it was for revenge. Raider was the most important character in the game, because he started all the wars for Apollyon.

>>176221160
I only recently picked the game up again. So I'm out of the loop on the current hate train.

>>176221189
Fuck you.

>>176221269
Warlord has an overloaded kit and is a nightmare in 4v4.

>>176217997
shooting star memes are shit but i liked this

i guess it was no UI cause it was staged? or is this guy just an absolute madslav?

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>>176221354
I mainly play duel. I fucking feel like I can't punish ANYTHING, on top of his head but giving an unblockable stab. I'm shit because i'm still a newer player but fuck me man. It feels like I'm fighting a wall.

>>176219385
>join duel
>opponent blocks
>leave

just me?

>>176219385
>join duel
>realize i accidentally misclicked when I wanted a brawl
>leave

just me?

>>176220015
i noticed a big difference when i played on my friends pc

If you have the season pass, do you get the new characters tomorrow? I heard they get them a week early.

>>176221797
This actually happens to me sometimes.

>>176221880
No, you get them on the 16th.

The season pass isn't to get the characters a week early, its to not get the characters a week late.

>>176219763
>wired controller if you have one.

top meme

ds4 has more lag when wired

>>176221943
Oh I see. The wording made it sound like everyone gets them on the 16th and the people with passes get them the 9th. Thanks for clearing that up.

>>176221880
No we get them on the 16th everyone else gets them on the 23rd

>>176222012

wait what

Does this explain why when I a feint with a DS4 on PC my feints always go overhead?

>get knocked down
>get guard broken again while im still on the floor
>thrown off ledge
what is this shit

>>176222115

its not a big difference at all but theres been extensive testing done and theres lag

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>Body someone all round.
>They run to a ledge.
>Constantly try to guardbreak me.
>Miss ONCE
>They win.
>Mfw
There should be NO ledges in duel or brawl.

>>176221234

Nah, the Raider Apollyon freed was Ragnar.

You can tell because of the helmet.

>>176222876
don't miss

>playing brawl
>teammate doesnt help me once hes finished his duel
How is it possible for like 75% of For Honors players to be this autistic

>>176222876

>chase my opponent to a location of his choosing
>fight him on his terms
>make a mistake
>die

thats not my fault!!! sooooo unfair REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>176216715
This is what's wrong with the community

>>176211871
>mouth retardedly protruding from the face and 10 miles away from the chin

Disgusting

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>Duel
>both of us on 2 wins
>Try my best not to use the raider gb charge
>other guy isn't spamming warden vortex
>my attack sends him off a ledge anyways
>"Fkin noob"
I'm so sorry

>>176223674
sorry for what?

>>176223674
there is no honor in losing anon.


>There also is no honor in watching your team mates die

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>>176223804

>kick kick kick kick stab

gg lotta skill spamming kick you fucking cunt

>>176223804
Our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our ledging

Anyone else find it hard to enjoy this game anymore?
Its just gank after gank, and duel and brawl are the same knigger wardens and lawbringers that never attack.

>>176223963
since it's such a great fall and all

>>176222905
im pretty sure she also explicitly stated at one point that it was ragnar

>>176223298

we're not having this argument again

in brawl >honor is fine as long as you don't keep it up when your opponents play >dishonorably

>>176224069
hmmm

your daddy gave you some good advice

my dad taught me a few things too, like how to get out of a warden vortex by just rolling away brah

>>176218445
what are you playing next season

>Playing Dominion as Law
>Notice the Raider and me on our team carrying
>Take back point A with Raider bro
>emote spam after winning a 2v4
>Game ends and and instantly disconnects us
>Re-que Dominion
>Same Raider on my team again
>We sort of just group up and begin roaming the map to together
>Fucking saves my ass from being ledged by picking them guy up and running him off
>I save his ass right after my impaling someone off the edge
>Emote spam
>Get friend request from Raider
>End up playing for the next 5 hours with him

Why is it that certain classes attract bro players? This is what makes the game great

>>176224541
could you show me?

>>176224593
Centurion, valk and femshinobi

>>176224846
I meant faction, doofus

Why is Wardens top light so fucking frustrating when its not any faster than other top lights

>You will never see Femraider sexually dominate Nobushi

>>176224628
`bro classes` is a myth

nearly every single person who plays this game is a giant faggot, yes including raiders, lawbringers, and kenseis

there is a .0001% chance for any class that you will bump into a `bro`, but this is more easily expressed by characters with teamwork skills like raider or lb in your story

I guarantee you`ve played alongside `bros` of many other classes- yes, even roaches and wardens- but their class doesn`t have the capacity for `bro` behaviour as you`ve described

tl;dr: `bros` are spread out through the classes, some are just more obvious than others

although i think we can all agree that 100% of PKs are definitively shitter children

nice story though anyway anon, I liked it

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>1v1
>Am a Rep 2 Law
>Facing a Rep 21 Kensei.
>He bodies me for two rounds.
>Manage to edge out a win.
>Then another.
>The a third...
>He says good game.
>Mfw
This had to be charity. There's no fucking way my trash Law could stand to a Rep 21 Kensei.

>>176225032
Knights still, even if every loser jumps ship or joins back, since I love my emblem, dork

>Find a rep 14 Warden with 108gs
>Ohboyherewego
>He actually just do top light and zone attack
>The only other thing he ever try is a very rare shoulderbash into gb

What even

>>176225121
Because you're bad?

Orochi has probably the most bothersome top light, because its parry window makes no sense, it does top heavy damage, and it's among the fastest attacks in the game.

>>176225220
>I had a friendly Valk sweep me off an edge 5 times in one match
>Would fucking do two light for no reason and then sweep

But yes, PK's are a 100% shitter
Sometimes you find great 'bro' players, but for cancer classes, they tend to be the people who don't know what makes them cancer. The most bro warden I had ever known almost never used Shoulder bash

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>>176225378
>knights still
>pick vikings for s1

>>176225285
rep doesn't mean shit anon

>>176218012
>an anime loser who wears literal wood for armor
>beating a knight who wears plate and mail with a big ass sword

At least Stone and Cross don't die.

>>176224814
I'D BE RIGHT HAPPY TO

>>176221085
When he goes full defensive, nothing can beat him. Even PK.

t. pk main

>>176225575
I wasn't a Kang s1 doe. but I was at least happy they beat out the weebs in the end. Genuinely disheartened we didn't win the last round to tie everything

Zerker really rips me a new one, I take it the key to beating them is to just rarely try and parry them?

>>176226025
Most players have patterns. The key to beating Berzerker is to not parry until you have their pattern figured out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jETgDKRUlgc

>>176226303
>Legion playing Warden

Fuck I love this.

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>>176226303
>n0tal3nt

>>176226303
He thinks law bringer gets a 50/50 off of shove and that it's unreactable

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>Wardens have 33/33/33 when running with their run attack, zone and gb
>Maybe even 25/25/25/25 with a top light, too.

>>176226475
is there anyone Legion hasn't annoyed?

>>176226025
no, because then they will feint into a gb or something

use lots of light attacks and you might have an easier time, breaking their rhythm helps a lot

>Some one is fienting
>Decide to let it rip with a raw heavy
>They GB me out of it

This shit is fucking lame.

>>176226732
Every time a Warden starts prepping his shoulder bash, it can be:

>A regular shoulder bash into double light
>A regular shoulder bash into grab
>A cancel shoulder bash into grab
>A cancel shoulder bash into parry
>A powered shoulder bash into heavy
>A cancel shoulder bash into light/zone

The cancels aren't so bad now, but fuck.

>>176226303
>>176226475
Where can I find gameplay of legion? Does he stream? All I find are videos of other player fighting him, and getting mad.

>>176226589
isn't shove an unblockable light?

>>176226886
no, it's just
>raw shoulder
>shoulder cancel into GB(to beat dodges)
>shoulder cancel into parry(to beat side dash attacks/fast lights)

>>176226303
isn't raider able to completely shut down warden's 50/50?

>>176226886
Yeah the "Nerf" really didn't do any good. What it needs to be is they can't automatically start it after a shoulder bash connects, it's just not fair, and they need to realize that. Hell, if a warden is too close to me there's nothing I can do to try to stop it.
>Raider main

>>176227013
The light can be reaction dodged and deflected. If you go against a half-decent Orochi or Zerker, then using the shove after block is asking to die. When I play Raider against Lawbringers, I try specifically to bait out the shove from block so I can safely dodge it and get a free grab.

So why did they keep attack and defence stats on gear?

>>176227102
Dodging Warden's shoulder is really inconsistent and weird. Sometimes it just magnet tracks you and you get hit anyway. In theory he shuts Warden down 100%, but in practice it's not quite so simple.

>>176227013
It's a reactable light that you can dodge.
>>176226732
It's a 50/50 if he will run attack or zone, why would he gb? Why would it ever hit are you trying to dodge something? Or parry an attack before it comes out?

>>176227114
Raider is 100% immune to wardens vortex though.

>>176227102
Should be but I can't really tech out of GB when dodging. GB works on me like 1 out of 30 times but every time I try to tech it as Raider during a dodge, shit won't work.

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How to fix warden: Make shoulder bash cost more stamina and double if canceled. If they let it fly, takes about 1/3 total. Cancel takes 2/3.

>>176226932
I don't -think- he make videos or is a twitch whore, he's just some regular bloke who happens to be a nightmare

>>176227261
Do you not realize that you can GB someone if they're starting up a heavy? He has a fucking 33/33/33 mix up at a minimum when running? That gb is guaranteed if your target dodged?

>>176226475
>>176226784
>>176226932
literally who

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Goddam 108 Warlord is swag as fuck

>>176227271
>Warden enters shoulderbash stance
>I'll dodge it now!
>By the time I realize he's not releasing it, he's already in uninterruptible stance and he can easily react to an obvious GB.
>Eat a top heavy.

Yes, 100% immune.

>>176227376

>Wearing multiple pieces of the same set
>Wearing an ENTIRE set
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>176227303
>slow the game down significantly by nerfing one of the only fair offensive tools
no thanks

>>176227337
why would you start up a heavy if a warden is running at you? trying to parry a zone or running attack is asking to get hit

>>176227462
i have rep 9 warden and have never had a fully charged shoulder track a side dodge

>>176227337
Why the fuck would you start up a heavy against a running warden? Why would you dodge? Are you retarted? He can only run attack wich is parryable or zone which you can block and get a gb. It's just a mix up of which he will do. He can't cancel his zone or run attack into a gb.

>>176227462
If only you also have a dodge attack as well as a dodge gb counter.

>>176216876

>campaign orochi beats campaign warden

That would not have happened if I was playing the warden.

>>176227346
Some random guy who's really good and fucks up tournament whores. Apparently he doesn't record his gameplay.

>>176226303
https://my.mixtape.moe/cpagrk.webm

>>176227271
It really isn't, even if i dodge and GB, by the time i do it, the SB is released and it's like a fucking heat seeking missile. Lights don't do anything, fucking tried that already. The SB is too fast to get out of by the time the vortex is already happening, because of stagger from the double light.

>>176227546
>i have rep 9 warden and have never had a fully charged shoulder track a side dodge

I remember a guy in this very thread posting a webm of himself playing Warden and having his heavy shoulder track someone through a dodge.

>>176227558
>running attack parryable.
>thinking that any normal person is good enough to move block fast enough to protect versus a zone or running one.

Do you not realize how fast running attack is?

>>176217779

can you explain? I'm rep 0 level 12 with conq, I don't know how to be good with him.

>>176227762
>my shit doesn't stink because there's other shit that stinks too

>>176227346
Tourney player who can bend the game over his knee and make it do stuff it shouldn't

>>176227636
By the time it goes off he's in uninterruptible stance, which is not affect by either of those.

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>>176227271
not quite, but sidedash > GB is unless the warden cancels shoulder > top light to beat the GB

>>176227789
please post it, i'd be VERY curious to see

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>>176227789
he dodged way too late and too early at the same time, at the time he dodged he would not be able to tech a gb or do another to avoid lvl3

>>176227797
That's why it's a mix up of which one he will do, just block it if he actually does mix them up, but a warden who's only doing running attacks is pretty easy to parry. But he can't gb you unless you're back dashing away like an out of stamina pk.

>>176227762
>The warlord is crack so it's okay for the vortex to have so many option even a luxury car can't reach up to it

This nigga dumb

>>176227834

Blocking heavy attacks makes you able to guardbreak enemies without anything they can do. Roach ZA counts as one.

>>176228006
So what you're saying is that it's okay for warden to have TWO vortexes.

Okay.

>>176227941
This is it >>176227956

The Raider is at fault, but at the same time it's ridiculous how Warden fucking spins on the spot to hit his opponent like that.

>>176221085

Warlord literally has everything. Every strong piece of kit other classes have he also has. Not to mention he has some of the best feats in the game. You have to be a better player and you have to work twice as hard to kill a warlord.

>>176228043
yeah, truetalent is fucking retarded, he has been spewing his made up ideas from the release, even claiming that Pk is perfectly balanced and not even that strong

>>176227546
It's happened to me plenty for the both of us m8

>>176227714
>>176227892
>rep 2
what the FUCK

>>176226303
wasn't this fixed in 1.06? wardens can't cancel shoulder super late anymore

>>176227956
dude that shoulderbash pivoted so hard it puts a dyson vac to shame

it should turn a tiny bit, not 90 degrees like it does in the webm. retarded

>>176226025
Get yourself some distance. Zerker isn't great at closing a gap. Need to be up in your face to play games with you. Keep backing up will fuck their rhythm, if they try to close with a leaping attack they can't feint and you can punish super hard.

>Be a causal shitter
>Always match up against 108 faggots while team is like us.
>They get revenge and become unkillable gods who barely get tickled for damage.
>Get Revenge.
>Half of armor goes away in single top heavy because max attack and have no decent gear.

I'm just glad that I'm the host of these kind of matches usually.

>>176228101
It's not a very good mix up since it only has 2 possiblities and they can both be blocked. By that logic almost everyone has a "vortex"

>>176228213
Warden

Shoulder Bash cancel timing into Guard Break reduced to 300ms before end of startup (from 100ms before end of startup).
Uninterruptible Stance timing on fully-charged Shoulder Bash startup reduced by 100ms in order to match the revised Guard Break cancel timing.
Cancelling Shoulder Bash into Idle now causes a 200ms recovery with no defense (Wardens used to cancel out of Shoulder Bash instantly into Idle).
The fully-charged visual and audio effects, will now only play once the cancel window is closed.
Non-charged Shoulder Bash recovery on Miss increased to 800ms (from 700ms)
[Bug Fix] Fixed an issue causing the Warden to spin around on hit with Shoulder Bash
[Bug Fix] Shoulder Bash ability to bump external target no longer overlaps with locked target

Developer comments: Warden’s Shoulder Bash was cancellable by Guard Break very late, allowing Wardens to wait for the enemy to dodge and then get a free Guard Break. We want Wardens to put a lot of pressure on their opponent with this move, but we don't want them to have such an advantage that they can force a response, react to the response, and punish the response. Now, the opponent can wait to dodge the Shoulder Bash until after it could still be cancelled into a Guard Break, but that window is intentionally very short to try to force players to have to make a read on each other, rather than simply reacting. Wardens still have a lot of power to choose what to do after initiating Shoulder Bash, but will have to commit more.

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>>176228213

>>176228592
yeah, so you can't break the game by canceling it mega late, as even a feint will have a 200ms recovery

i don't understand what "Uninterruptible Stance timing on fully-charged Shoulder Bash startup reduced by 100ms in order to match the revised Guard Break cancel timing." means though

>>176228872
I think it means "shoulder charges 100ms faster" in layman's terms?

>>176227303
das cute

>Do reaction test on my PC monitor
>270
>Try it in my TV I play on
>450

Jesus fucking Christ, no wonder fast attack feel insane on the console version. I'm playing with nearly 200ms less to react.

>>176228984
oh fully charged shoulder charges 100ms faster, you're right

fuck don't they try to speak english?

>>176229145
i've heard this is a huge problem as well

Has anyone gotten their honor yet or are you still playing for it?

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>>176227376
lets do this

>>176227714
>>176227892
FUCK OFF LEGION

>>176229421
I can't speak for the other guy, but I am not Legion.

>>176229421
>t. praise

>>176227705
>playing on realistic
>get to this fight
>'haha swordsman of the emporer desu, get ready to eat grorius nippon steel gaijin'
>campaign warden immediately vortexes me into a geyser for the one hit

I had to laugh

>>176219112
>You should've gotten the choice of which of the main characters got the final fight.

Agreed, but if a Samurai had to end Apollyon, it shoulda been Ayu. Would've been a neat full-circle thing.

>Apollyon mentions in an observable about how Ayu is essentially a wolf in denial; she's utterly ruthless and merciless when hunting down the other Daimyo, but insists it's for a greater purpose
>Final fight would've been a cheesy but cool "we're more alike than you realize" dialogue between Apollyon and Ayu

And I still think Ranja should've been the Daimyo to take the throne, not Seijuro

>Ranja is described as pious and ambitious, using her piety as an excuse for past actions
>Ranja would've taken the throne to train the Dawn Empire for a war against the dirty gajin
>Even after she is defeated and made a general in Ayu's empire, she would've jumped on the opportunity for a holy war against the knights and kangz, even before the kangz showed up at the end.

>>176229505
we r legion

expecc

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>>176229858

>>176219397
The cast of the Samurai campaign would've made so much more sense if every Roach was a Kensei, and vice versa.

>Imperial assassins holding more rank than literal warrior-generals

>>176229421
I don't even care about tourney or competitive gaming in general, personally I think esport is a fucking joke, and that even more so in For Honor where the balance is all over the place, but really I'd be lying if I was saying Legion isn't strong as fuck.
A giant scumbag, but strong.

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>>176227376

Havent been on /fgh/ for a month, hit me with all your sickest memes

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>>176230381

>Valkyrie will never choose to fight for your right to enter Valhalla

>>176229947
>save this without thinking cause its funny
>FBI raids my house

ffs

>>176230946
>zerker will always fight for your right to paaaaartay

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>>176227705

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>Do decent enough in duels.
>Get Shitstomped in Dominion

>>176231361
G E A R

>>176231361
>>176231394

git good

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>>176231361
>Can parry lights on reaction against PKs and Valks in duels for sick AD MORTEMS
>Try that shit in Dominion.
>Always get attacked by another person during the animation.
>Mfw

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>tfw snipin' bitches with my bow in elimination
Haha dodge this you fucking snownigger

>>176217212
i thought vikings won beta, wtf?

I was even on the winning team..

>>176222876
imagine oberyon(whatever his name is) vs the mountain, in game of thrones

Oberyon was whooping his ass over and over, ended up getting cocky and thinking he outskilled his opponent, then let one mistake slip and paid with his life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3XyDLbaUmU

>vs lv.3 orochi bot

>>176225285
Probably not.

As soon as you figure out a Kensei's playstyle, they become super easy to fight. I've had tons of duels go like that on my Rep 7. Have no gaurenteed openers so they have to go all out round one and reveal all their tricks

>>176231895
>Yumi

What is this? A longbow for children?

>>176231895
>smug printposting

this has potential

>>176232353
i thought they were gonna fight

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>>176227376

>>176231361
Surprise surprise, you can be a duel god, but all that skill matters shit for dick if you don't have any battlefield sense. Kinda how it works in reality too.

Gotta learn how to handle distractions and that third or fourth man in the ring if you want to be truly gud.

>that green bean cut

should have made them fight to the death desu (typed)

>>176232353

>A single comment with 4k likes and nothing else
What

>Fighting a Nobushi
>On three lights in a row my character starts the parry animation but gets hit anyway
>Die to a zone that goes straight through my guard

Did I just get unlock tech'd?

>>176232884
This is why I like Dom over duels, or even Brawl over duels.

Any faggot can participate and do well in a staring contest by turtling, but you can't turtle when there's four Conq's bashing your shit in

>>176233006

same, I use duel and brawls to learn new chars or practice stuff

You cant turtle at all in Dominion because you could be kill that fucker quick and do something more useful

>>176231895
>Savages
>Had fire arms while Japs still used bows

Makes you go hmm.

>>176232884
>battlefield sense
It's more due to, I'm just unable to parry lights in Dominion for fuck all reason. Maybe more people just means slight extra lag and none of my characters actually have gear score of 40+

>>176233006
Also having braindead partners help alot. You can have score of 900 and be killing people left and right and 2v1, but still lose because entire team just heavy spammed one guy with 1 bar of health and kept giving him free revenge.

>>176231763
How

Are you on fucking Adderall

>>176232836
ah birdlord

good to see you

>>176233243
hes on admorterral

>>176233243
He's just a liar, watch any of the best players play and they all still fuck up light parries all the time.

>>176233243
Not him but on PC, Valks are entirely parryable and not that hard to fight. Though I personally have trouble against pk's. Still, I can parry most of their lights if it's a level 3 bot.

>>176233228
I love seeing high rep disruption characters, because they just kick the shit out of the guy in 2v1s and dont let him even perform an action

>Law constantly backpedalling and throwing out nothing but heavies
>Playing raider so I can't even get a light off of parrying him
>He just keeps doing it because I can't punish him and he just needs me to miss a parry to do damage

Wow, that was ass.

>>176233440
I don't care what anyone says. High Rep, Shugoki,LB and Valk are most annoying to fight in any 1vX situation. These characters are clearly more catered towards Dom modes instead of duels and literally fuck up the other side if you're good at ganking.

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>>176233243
I spent like an hour in a custom match with no damage on parrying lights from both PK and Valk because I had so much trouble with them. Now I can get Valks almost every time and PKs most of the time, they're a bit tougher though.

>>176233617
Wait until you fight a nobushi pulling that shit with unlocked zones thrown in. It gets ridiculous.

Speaking of though, I know they said they were working in fixing the unlock stuff, but how will they fix unlock nobushi zones attack speed increase?

>>176233851
Ya valks are ez af. I only struggle against flickering pks

If warden was an animal, what animal would they be?

What about Conq, Peacekeeper, and Lawbringer?

>>176233868
They won't they'll just make unlock attacks parryable.

>>176234152
Warden: Dog

Conq: Elephant

PK: Rat

LB: Crocodile

>>176234152
A lion or a bird based of his cosmetics

>>176233868
the nobushi zone seems more like a clever use of game mechanics than an exploit (and certainly not a bug). Zone starts from your right, so just unlock and turn 90 degrees left - nothing isn't working as intended.
Not to say it might not need a nerf.

>>176234374
>Nobushi having a faster zone than pk with a heavies damage is fine

Nope.

>>176234152
Warden would be a Hawk or Eagle
Conq would be a Bull
PK is a Snake
Law is a Lion

>>176234503
like I said, potentially unbalanced, but not an exploit.

>>176234152
Warden would either be a lion, or a Gryphon. (Nobility and honor, sworn to protect the weak yadda yadda)

I can see Law as an eagle. (MURICA)

>>176234554
Unlocking to speed up attacks is exploitative as fuck.

>>176234152
>Conq
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankylosaurus

This thing. Especially because he's extinct now

>>176234152

Warden: Gray wolf - Native of Italy, usually symbolic of protection in European folklore.

Conqueror: Badger - Native all around the UK, they are stocky, dangerous fuckers. And mean.

Peacekeeper: Likely a fox, or maybe a stoat or ermine

Lawbringer: Lion, no question.

>>176234768
but that's the thing, the attack attack isn't sped up. If it changed the animation I'd call it an exploit, but it's only changing the angle. A lawbringer could do the same thing and it wouldn't be an exploit (but would obviously be less effective since it's slower)

>>176234929
>feeling the need to link the wiki page

nigga who doesn't know what an ankylosauraus is. we're the generation that grew up readin dinosaur books and playing with plastic ones

>>176234929
>Especially because he's extinct now
Ouch

>Play Dominion.
>Get to C Point and capture and defend it.
>Look at score 1 minute later.
>We have 300 and they are at 780
>One of their Kensei is entire up our soldier lane till spawn point,
>One Conq is killing 3 of my team mates up at other point.
>Uninstall.exe

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>>176235501
just got to play those objectives

>>176232353
for what purpose?

>>176235386
Tell me about it, I'm a rep 18 conq main. Gotta face facts though
>>176235312
You probably weren't even born when Jurassic park came out for all i know. This is 4chan m8

>>176228872
It means that the hyper armor from a fully charged shoulderbash comes up sooner
They did this because they chanhed the timing of Warden being able to cancel into a guardbreak
This does not mean shoulder comes out faster

someone please tell me how to fight conqs

They just shieldbash constantly and im playing shug you cant attack and dodge at the same time

>>176235763
It just annoys me so much when my team is just 3 assassins and I'm there as hybrid trying to do my best to kill everyone and capture points and keep soldier lane ours, but 3 roaches gotta run everwhere and just keep doing top heavy until they die.

>>176236085
Let your armor eat the bash. Press GB, swing for the fences. Or throw him at any nearby wall and break his back

Shugo is a hard ass match up for conq

>>176236325

lol no its the opposite

shug cant do anything to conq if he plays passive, conq blocks a light he can gb a remove your armor

>>176236085
Exactly what >>176236325
said

Your job is to just wait for your super armor, then do a trade with him. In the meanwhile, take it slowly and dont dodge until the moment you see the unblockable symbol

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If i have 18 k steel right now, and the new guys release is the 23rd, can I afford to buy the butterfly effect for my roach or will be short of the 30 k i need on the 23rd?

I do all the contracts but the friend ones because I have no friends, then duel.

>>176236516
You should buy the season pass because it's actually good value.
Also consider joining a group because 4v4 modes give you like 50st per game instead of like the 10 you get from Duels.

Long term you'll notice a difference, especially if you have champ status and play more than just your orders per day.

>>176235862

mech samurai character when???

>>176236797
>$40 for add-ons to a broken game.
The game itself should've been $40

>>176236797
is there an active pc group for fhg? because everyone I have added from here has been autistic as fuck

>still have to get out of duel menu and re enter when opponent leaves instead of just continously looking for opponents
thanks ubi

>>176237576
Game has like only 2800 Active Player on steam currently. Which is like 200 more than current SoTFS players.
Even if you go with more people on UPlay no one gives a shit about community if they got it from there.

Why the fuck did they removed "Active Players" from Social option?

>>176237893
Because actually showing how quickly the game was dying would've just made more people leave

>>176236797
I'm not playing 40 dollaridoos to save 90k Steel, friend, I already barely have stuff I wanna spend Steel on

>>176236516
buy your butterflies if you want them, with season 2 you get 12 days free champion status, and matches (of all kind) will give more steel rewards. you'll have the steel for the new chars in no time.

>>176238461
Wait, Season 2 will give more Steel?

Where'd you get that?

>>176238913
they said they're increasing steel rewards overall, and all XP gain by 25% in season 2

>>176239405
Didn't they increase Steel intake already?

>>176239454
they might have, I forget.

>>176239454
they upped steel rewards from orders

>>176239907
>>176239962

So, assuming they have, do we still get another increase in Steel for S2?

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Is Valk supposed to push Zerkers shit in, or am I just that bad?

>>176240290
You're on console.

>>176240290
she can attack faster then your recovery time

>>176240028
they upped it by 10% recently, i think, but in the last warriors den they said they would further increase it so leveling up your characters goes faster.

they said they assumed people would level their characters alot more and faster than they actually did, thats why they decided to increase everything to speed up the process.

>>176240628
no.

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How much will the Centurion and Shinobi costi n Steel?

>>176240902
15K

Read the OP

>>176240778
good goy

>>176240670
What does Steel have to do with leveling up?

And did they mention how much they're increasing the Steel gains?

God I fucking hope Berserker gets some rad looking gear in Season 2, i'm starting to prefer playing Berserker over Kensei, they're so similar

> get killed by arrow
> 2-2 final round
> same guy kills me with another arrow

Ok 80 dmg sure. I rage quit in hopes that it would crash the game

so is the game literally eating inputs now on pc?

>>176241301
I hope the new gear isn't as dissapointing as lawbringers but I know it is.

> if you switch between views when dead in 4v4s you can see characters in T pose
heh

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>>176241172
what?

for some reason i cant change directions properly after a hit anymore
for some reason i cant tech a GB after i get blocked anymore
for some reason i cant dodge hits anymore because they trace

what a great game ubisoft. I thought you were fixing it in the last few months but it seems you just keep breaking it more and more.

>>176241301
>Zerker gets a spiked variant armor with no new changes aside from the spikes

>The mask is now tan instead of black

Screencap this.

please help me remove input problems on pc

>>176244002
> accidentally pressing back and GB at the same time
> AD MORTEM
> or demons embrace & die in the animation

Also fun
> panic in the middle of a fight and open every menu available and some you forgot about

>>176241301
>I prefer Zerker lower level gear

I use Procyon set mostly since it is pretty much a tuned up blonde version of the base gear. I keep my weapon parts in the grey-blue range because the purps look too flashy.

can I please have a map other than high fort
I like it, I just don't like it enough to have it every other match

captains fucking ruin skirmish. what a dumb fucking addition. why are they even there? just had one run up to me and gb me mid fight with a player getting me killed.

>>176244445
Vote for a different one then. Most people don't bother to vote.

I will say this for High Fort though, it has a ton of space so people can't as easily zip around from one spot to the next. Means more to hold and defend on a map like than rather than on River Fort, where everything is so close.

>>176244537
kek i love when that happens.

>>176244537
So you would still have to pay attention to your surroundings

>warlord mirror
>rages cos I counter his headbutts

lmao

>valk player
>turtles
>use headbutt to open him up
>omg stop spam

fucking love memelord lads

>>176227261
It's a reactable light that you can dodge and if he doesn't do a light he can get a free guard break when you dodge.

It's a fucking 50/50 you retard

>>176244741
>bragging about being a tierwhore
k

>>176244934

Ive played 5 characters before him

fuck off

>>176245067
>playing the game as much as everybody else in the general justifies picking the literal most broken character
yeah nah

>>176244710
just happened to someone while i was fighting an turtling LB.. guess they're not so bad after all

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r8 my edgy conq for tilting people

>play good player
>if I attack I get punished
>calls me a turtle

well no fucking shit youre doing the same fucking thing

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>Playing Brawl
>Have Roach as teammate against a Conq and LB but Conq leaves after first round
>After about two rounds the LB and Roach face off and the LB wins
>I fight the LB but I then go to revive the Roach
>Revive him but then I die after
>Roach says "You won this one." to the LB and lets him kill him

Fucking Roaches.

>>176246028
does it actually get you salt? I love it when enemies look cool like that

>fighting a Law as Nobushi

Jesus fuck

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>>176246574

yeah i have this skin that i use as my default, but when i have someone tilted already, if they rematch i go full edge and they usually comment some shit about me being an edgy kid

>>176246551

you deserved that. if you werent being "dishororabru" before that point, doing it right at the end then yeah, i agree with the roach

i dont agree with honor fagging in general, but if youre gonna start honor fagging, its even worse to suddenly stop without notice

how the fuck does warlord shield charge work?

I cant hit anyone with it

>>176246953
the trick is to run directly into them!

>>176246028
cheese grater/10

>>176246028
hate that style of helmet

>>176246392
Zerkers are the worst for it, they complain that I'm not even trying to parry. Well no fucking shit I won't try and parry your shit, as soon as I do I get gb'd.

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>>176246953
it doesn't

>>176217212
Which is the border?
I think I didn't got mine

>>176246551
>Can't beat a guy with a bit for a team mate

Good on the roach.

>>176247658

yeah this keeps happeneing to me

>havent played game in a while
>play valk
>everyone seems to be able to parry the 2nd light in my combo
>go into bot training as warden
>cant parry the valk
????

>>176248142
You're bad.

>>176248234
so what bug do i need to abuse then?
because pressing the direction of the attack and heavy attack doesnt work. I mean it looks like most of the meta is about exploiting bugs.

holy fucking shit gankers are such faggots.
>fighting valk
>valks down to two bars
>teammate roach runs up
>top light spam while she blocks all of it
>gets revenge
>roach runs away

why do so many people fucking do this.

So Warlod is actually kinda shit at offense

>>176248381

youre slow`

>>176248381
The exploit is called "parrying with proper timing"

>>176248461
learn his full toolkit before you make yourself look silly again

>>176248461
>

>>176248626

well the shield charge is fucked and whiffs all of the time for me, the headbut is ony good at close range and its a free gb if you dodge, zone easilt blocked

what elese has he?

>>176247658
>>176247981
>>176246953
iirc you're meant to release the button on physical contact, but it's shit anyway

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>>176248385
Happened to me too earlier
>Fighting a warden as Kensei
>Faggot is a mix of turtle and vortex spamming fuck
>If I manage to get ONE side heavy in, I kill him
>Then Sasuke jump in and literally start churning out top light and heavies at industrial mass production
>Give the Warden 3 THREE NIGGA, THREE revenge in less than 2 fucking minutes
>Fight become a hell of dodging the zone attack and MISERUM because if I ate one I was fucking dead

>>176248986

just roll away

>>176248884
500ms side lights that are nearly indistinguishable from heavies on reaction because their animation is very similar. Mix the two up and destroy people who think they can parry lights.

Soft 50/50 in charge and on headbutt. Spook them by dodging forward, and then hit them with the dry GB when they dodge. Mix it with regular headbutts and people will start eating both more often.

>>176249247
running attack

>>176249247
It was in the fuck ass corridor in the Tower Ruin map, there was no space.

how do i git gud as raider?

>>176249587
Parry lights shit out damage. Combo zone a lot and sometimes feint.

>>176249256

Ive been doing most of these but only baddies fall for the headbutt/dodge gb thing

and I cant get the charge to connect

>>176247658
oh no one of warlord's 50,000 tools doesn't work

>>176249587

Be a sneaky bastard.

>>176249587

move the leftstick to the right at character selection