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>Updated Season 2 Info: Character and Map details
https://pastebin.com/4qcpMRZK

>New V1.06 patch is here, Warden/PK/Shugoki nerfs, Orochi buff

https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news-community/152-289202-16/

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

**ATTENTION CONSOLE BROS**
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1st for OP is cute
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1st for x
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>>176145329
kyooot
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Fem Conqueror is objectively best girl
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Upcoming raider changes

After a large amount of community feedback and internal testing, we have settled on a list of changes to improve the Raider class, to be deployed along with the Season 2 patch.
Zone Attack now has uninterruptible stance.
Top Light Attack speed increased to 500ms.
Is now equipped with a pistol.
Developer comments: We found that even with the above improvements, the Raider had difficulty opening up opponents with strong defenses. This change should even the gap between the offensive capability of the Raider relative to other classes.

Increased speed for attacks after a successful Guard Break, allowing the Raider to follow up with high-damage moves other than his Zone Attack.
All attacks have been made unblockable.
Developer comments: The pistol had a tendency to run out of ammo, and the Raider was unfortunately unable to reload it. This additional improvement should allow the Raider to continue to open up skilled opponents in longer engagements.

Increased maximum health by 5.
Increased size by 2,500%.
Developer comments: This change is more of a lore and world-focused improvement, as previously the Raider's appearance did not live up to his legendary title.

Slightly reduced stamina cost of the Raider's Zone Attack.
Is now equipped with a missile pod on his left shoulder.
Developer comments: We felt that the Raider's status as a Vanguard hero could be reinforced by improving his capability to clear out soldier waves. This change also comes with the added benefit of allowing the Raider another offensive option in high-level play.
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>>176145654
Where did you find this
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>>176145978
I read more. Motherfucking kek
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>people still doubt that these character leaks are real
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>>176146185
is this season 3 content?
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>>176145540
I'm pretty sure she got the shit raped out of her in prison.
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>>176145654
>is now equipped with a pistol
you had me until this, and completely got my hopes up of raider buffs anytime soon
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>>176146341
yeah you can see the knights are getting a corinthian and the leaked viking huntress is visible too
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>>176145218
So I heard about this about a week ago and I've been debating if I should pick it up.

Would you recommend it? The game looks like it kinda boils down into a straight fighting game like SF but with free movement but it's hard to tell without playing it. That the case?

You think it'll ever go on sale in some with the DLC coming out in a bundleuu?
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>>176145654
>Is now equipped with a pistol.
we getting churayzay now
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>>176145654
>Is now equipped with a missile pod on his left shoulder.
FINALLY! I've been arguing for this fucking change SINCE BETA! Glad to see they're listening to their player base.
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>>176146490
I like the game, but glacially slow balance patches and connection issues are holding it back. you want to buy it? check key resellers first.

don't bother with the season pass, all the new heroes will be purchasable with in-game currency.
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>>176146490
>Would you recommend it?
no
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>>176146809
Season pass gives them all for FREE and with a unique elite outfit 30 day champ status and some crates and effects.
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>play 30h after release
>quit because real life shit
>watch centurion trailer
>looks like a character Ive been waiting for
please tell me the game is in better state overall so I can come back and really get into this game
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>>176146185
>this game will never be real
>it'll always be sex adverts for browser fucking card games
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>After an entire game of ledging, ganking, using feats, etc. Finally get the enemy down to 1
>"Guise be honorable"

Fucking kek honorfags are retarded
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>>176146968
not worth it, the only reason im buying it is the 1 week early access
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>>176146968
that's nice and all, but not what I would consider worth it for 25 bucks (the cheapest I saw a season pass for sale)
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>>176138159
>dominion on high fort
>me a conq and LB
>we're in breaking rest of team is dead
>me and LB v 4
>we know we're fucked but we're not going down without a fight, we make our final stand between A and the attacker side
>first to run up is a roach. start charging my swing. LB GBs roach and chucks him toward me, hit him with fully charged heavy then shield bash him straight into LBs top heavy giving him an execution.
>two others are running up zerks the first to get to us
> lb long arms and we slap the shit out of him
>arrow flies out of nowhere nearly killing me
>that cunt nobushi charges in with a warden
>i'm already really hurt from the bow
>spend most of the time blocking and punishing nobushi
>lb finishes off warden as orochi runs up
>finally land a killing blow on nobushi
>like a fucking window licking mongoloid i go for the execution only to get heavied and executed by zerker before i can confirm the kill.
>zerk picks up nobu and they gank lb straight into the ground

shit got my heart pumpin, couldn't even imagine how cool i felt when we bodied that roach.
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>>176145540
>>176146436
Pretty sure that's why she goes for the crotch slam in one of her executions. It's canon I tell you
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>>176147104
same here, that first week will be great, nobody knowing how to play against the new characters
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Shit's down yo
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>>176147568
4u
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>>176146809

So you can just buy the DLC with in-game money piecemeal? The only thing the DLC gives is early access and a bunch f2p-like microtransaction items?
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>>176145654
>Remplaced his "slippery" 4th feat with "missile barrage"
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>>176147816
4u2
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>literally only deflect characters have a CHANCE to counter warden
>warden can still just do a left heavy and Dodge hurricane blast and hit you with a heavy
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>>176147882
yeah characters cost 15k steel which you can get within a week or two
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>>176145654
Raider doesn't need buffs. He's already about the 4th best in the game and he shits on law, warden, conq and anyone else with a bash based offense
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>>176147992
NoU
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>>176147882
the only notable thing you get from the season pass is the new heroes on release. everyone else has to wait a week to be able to purchase / play them.
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Hold up

Does warlord counter warden?

just minced some warden

he started back dashing into shoulder when I headbutted him, so I started dash gb which fucked him over very badly
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>>176148192

No seriously why is no one else complaining?
Servers are unreachable
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>>176148383
Does the best character in the game by a wide margin counter the arguably second best? Yes. Yes he does. Just like he counters everyone else
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>>176145654
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>>176148238
Oh nice.

>>176148238
That's fine. All the old characters will be new to me still, so reason to rush into them.

So is it like how Mechwarrior Online used to be, with no content or reason to play outside of a match? I see there's levels and loot, but anything else like a conflict mode to beat other factions or something?
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>>176148470
Because no one actually plays the game
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>>176148606

noice, I just havent seen it because warlord players are usually awful at the game
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>warden abusers will defend this.
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>>176148681

did you draw that anon?

because that is A1
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>>176149161
no
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>>176146436
Conq lore best lore

Also conq lore is why they're objectively the best designed character in the game

>Be a convict/slave
>You're in the army now, son
>Survive a few battles in a world where it's not uncommon for soldiers to die by the half dozen in one swing of an axe
>Be pretty good at this shit
>The brass want to promote me
>Tell me I'm going to be an elite shock trooper, new gear and everything
>Report to the quarter master and hand him my requisition order
>Tells me to pick whatever I like from "that room"
>Go in there and it's nothing but outdated uniforms from the crusades and lite shields that have been out classed by newer technology for years, mixed in with completely impractical shoulder armor, and to top it all off, the only weapon here is a pile of fucking cavalry flails
>Well at least I'm being paid and fed now

And so, the most annoying class in the game was born

But seriously, at least conq has an excuse for looking like an irregular or levy. Why does warden, the supposed elite among elites look like he got dressed in the dark from gear made by a retarded blacksmith?
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>>176149110
>fails to block every single attack
>goes for an unsafe deflect option
>gets punished
WADENS REEEEE

kys
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>>176149370
No other class can do this
It's not a special move
His heavy "just works like that"
Poster boy always got be strong right hehe :-DDDD
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>>176149370
I think his issue is with the fact that the wardens top heavy somehow caused the hurricane blast to miss, which shouldn't happen
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>>176149513
you are literally retarded
should have deducted that from being a weeb roach player
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>>176149370
>theres any reason the warden should have been able to get out of that deflect counter
give me a break
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>>176149110
You're fucking garbage if you think that anything outside of Warden's shoulder bash is subjectively broken. Please uninstall the game and cry about how Raider does too much damage and you can't block his zone Reddit.
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>>176149565
Just stop playing Orochi then.
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>>176149513
>poster boy
>Raider is center cover
>hasnt been touched since launch
hmmm
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>>176149860
seems reasonable

or they could fix that issue with the top heavy
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>>176150023
But anon if warden didn't have his sliding top heavy how would else could he disrupt other players and do shitloads of damage?
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>>176149707
>just casually slides the whole length of a peacekeepers dodge behind you
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>>176149110

should have gb cancelled senpai
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9mIM1v5bHc
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>>176149293
Conq is a simple man.
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>>176151039
>Law is conq's boss

Doubtful
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>>176147051
better? yes

where it should have been months ago? no
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>>176146968
Season pass for $30
>all for FREE
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>>176151127
More like parole officer.
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>>176150872
i've never seen somebody so wrong
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>>176151189
>he doesn't want FREE heroes
>FREE outfits
>FREE week early access
>FREE 30 day champ status
>FREE effects
>FREE crates.
>FREE emblem border
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>>176148681
I'm not sure if you're the guy who posted this on leddit, he stole it from you, or you stole it from him
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>>176145540
i would simply have to agree

tay aflEEgam!
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>>176151323
If only I still had the screenshot of my conq in completely orange regulus/cassios gear.
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>>176151127
they're partner buddy cops
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A week from Tuesday and I can play again.
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>>176151905
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>>176152356
>trying to longdong someone from near a cliff
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Is there a difference in the different characters' GB animation? I'll try and GB, and then get GB'd before my animation goes all the way through. I don't know if it has to do with lag, or what, but it's annoying.
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can someone please explain how you earn points in dominion?
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>>176151564
Which is the emblem border?
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>>176153198
Boosting Capture Points, Killing Other People and continuing kill streaks, Defending Capture Points, Killing Soldiers, Saving Team-mates. Depending on class some would give you more points than others.
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>>176153198
when you have a point, it generates points slowly. If one of you stands in the point when nobody else is in it, it generates points faster. Not the point with all the soldiers though, just the ones near each teams spawn.

When you get in an enemies zone, it stops generating points.
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>>176153587
>when you have a point, it generates points

to be less confusing, I mean when you have a zone that you captured
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>>176153529
>>176153587

so if i'm playing a heavy it would be best to just sit on an objective? and kill whoever tries to take it from me, right?
i've been arguing with someone for like, an hour now about this. he's saying staying on a point does nothing for my team. killing people who come into my zone does nothing for my team.

soft points are captures and hard points are kills, correct?
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>>176153198
Capture the point closest to your spawn point. Sit on it and earn passive points from boosting the point. Ledge whoever tries to take it from you. Deny enemies entry by sitting at the point entrance and turtling if the map allows for that. Get 4 kills in a game and outscore your whole team by boosting the point all game.

That's how a smart player does dominion. When you get good at it you do the same thing but on the enemy's closest cap point. Never ever try to control the battlefield point. It's a complete waste of time, and really hard to do because you can be attacked from anywhere and you don't regen health for sitting on it.
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>>176150712
>nothin personnel kid, maybe you should've just rolled away :^)
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>>176153887
As a Heavy guy fastest way for you to gain renown is to stand at a point and defend it yes. Do note the "Defend Part". Vanguard gains standing at renown faster, but if you kill someone as heavy you get more than what a Vanguard would gain.
Also the person you're arguing with incorrect, Staying at a point gives you +2 points a second instead of +1 which accumulates alot in long term. Do note though, you won't gain much renown if you ledge kill someone but you have to choose between being safe or getting more renown.

I personally don't know if extra renown points you gain are considered for Team points though.
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dude im really tired of these fucking cheating bots
like, a "level 2" bot will fucking gaurd break counter you EVERY time and my favorite is when im playing as warlord, and i trade a hit with them, then try to follow up with a light in a different direction and LEVEL ONE bots will block it 100% of the time. and i LOVE assassins (peacekeeping niggers) that will simply dodge every single attack you swing and "read" feint to just fuck you anyway, and when they gaurd break you, they ALWAYS get all 3 stabs.

its just fucking bullshit
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>>176153986
yeah, what i usually do is go to the zone closest to the enemy spawn and kill whoever tries to take it back.
i play this game a lot but some dunce is saying i'm hindering the team by taking the zone closest to the enemy spawn and sitting there.. i just wanted to be sure that i wasn't fucking over my team by doing what i've been doing for months.
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>>176154295
Man if you can't perfect level 2 bots consistently, just stick to ganking people in 4v4. It's all you're cut out for.
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y'all mind if I post wardens?

1/3
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>>176132727
Hey look, it's that salty as fuck berserker that cries every time he gets beat by a Warden.
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>>176154503
2/3
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Not worth it.
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>>176154295
>Having Trouble with Level 2 bots and below.
Best way to deal with bots is just parry their lights since and ledge them. Also In my 300 hours of play, I've never seen a PK bot that read my feint. They all always fall for it do the side-step attack, get parried. Just don't be a faggot and keep repeating it. Throw in a light once in a while and get hit on purpose.
I really want Level 4-5 bots, level 3 is too easy now.

>>176154374
>go to the zone closest to the enemy spawn and kill whoever tries to take it back.
You're the reason why your team wins matches.
If your team loses, everyone else was a dumbshit nigger who can't play or got outskilled.
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>>176148159
THIS.

Raider is fucking top-tier if played by someone who is good.
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>>176154503
i have the same helmet, ornament, engraving and shoulders.
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>>176154374
No it's the best thing thing to do. If you can hold what should be a consistent and easy point for them, how is it bad for your team? The best strategy if you can work it is to put 3 guys on the enemy point, 1 on your own, and disregard the battlefield. Or if you can do it, try control or disrupt the battlefield from afar with flash grenades and such
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>>176154743
How so? I'd agree only if you count exploiting bugs.
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>fail to keep up with pk lightspam still in dom
>say why learn the game when you can just play pk in global
>enemy shugo says I can't complain because I ledged him twice as zerker
???
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>>176149370
That wasn't the deflect attack that's slow enough to dodge, that was the one that's supposed to be guaranteed. The fact the Warden was able t get a free heavy after that is ridiculous.

T. man who hates Orochis
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>>176154683
3/3
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>>176148013
You mean Raider, Orochi, Berserker, PK, Conq, Warlord, Nobushi, Warden, and Lawbringer can counter Warden.
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>>176153887

dont mind him, staying on point boosts the point adn stops enemies from takin git, When I lose a point in dominion I run straight back to it and its usually unoccupied

if you want you can hold your enemies pint and you will have a swarm of fuckers trying to take that off you
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>>176154830
If you can consistently parry top lights of Warden, there's legit nothing Warden can do to you, and you'll get to kill him with 3 top heavies. And his Bash gets fucked since you can simply side-step GB it so at best it resets to neutral again.
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>>176148013

cancel into gb
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>>176154879
Pretty nice Wardens, my man.

I really like 1/3, save for the ornament, and 2/3 looks pretty sweet overall.
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>>176149717
>shoulder bash
>broken
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HOW THE FUCK IS BASH SPAMMING REAL HAHAHAHA

NIGGA JUST ROLL AWAY FROM HIM JUST ROLL YOUR FAT ASS AWAY
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>>176154783
well then you have excellent taste

can i see? i got this boring to play ass, vortex ass motherfucker all the way to rep 10 purely for the incredibly disappointing aesthetics, so i'm anxious to see how he compares to other wardens
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Since Raider is so OP, how do I play him?

And is he good in 4v4s?
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>>176154801
>>176154690
i have this guy fucking screaming at me on reddit saying that what i'm doing is making my team lose and i should just stick to duels since i don't know 'strategy'. dude was so persistent i figured i might actually be in the wrong, nope turns out redditors are just fucking retarded. i fuckin' made an account 2 weeks ago to check out the for honor page for when the threads aren't particularly lively. pls don't disown me
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>>176155032
This. Raider is a hard counter to Warden unless you're shit and don't know how to play. There is no safe move a Warden can make against Raider, period.

There is no safe move a Warden can use period, because every class except Kensei can punish the shoulderbash EVERY time if you learn your character's counters to it.
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>>176148383
No, if anything Warden counters Warlord. Your opponent was just bad.
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high level play
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>>176154830
>Warden tries to bash
>Dodge, can't be GB'd during dodge like every other character in the game
>Warden can't get any damage on you with shoulder, nor can any other character with bash as a big offensive tool
>One parry->GB from raider drains about 90% of any characters stamina
>Has a 90 damage exhaust punish
>Has carry throws

If you're bad at raider you're bad at the game d e s u
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>>176155268
i'm on xbox so i can't really show. they removed captures on for honor recently. i can tell ya what i got on tho.
just got my warden to rep 4
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>>176155424
He's third best character in ganking, beat out only by Warlord and Law.

>>176155459
This is objectively not true if you understand Warlord's kit and Warden's shoulder bash mix up. Warlord counters Warden fully, all you have to do is dodge and headbutt every time he shoulderbashes, there is no option for the Warden to win that matchup.
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>>176155165
thanks my dude

to be honest i've always been a big fan of flanged, and it fit the grandeur theme i was going for
for 2/3 having the bare tree/winterwoods combo was the reason i picked up warden in the first place lol
3/3 is just the compulsory edgy loadout every warden has when they get black armour
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>>176155450
We've all thought at one point or another that maybe there's something to this reddit business after all, it's nothing to be ashamed of anon

But yes, redditors are absolutely garbos at vidya. If you think the average 4chan user talks a load of bullshit and is crap at games despite claims to the contrary, reddit is ten times worse
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>>176155561
yeah just tell me man

ive spent so long on this character i know every gear piece by heart

fucking kill me jesus

but yeah go ahead
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>>176155424
You parry all light attacks then hit them with Top Heavy. Side heavy if you parried Top attack on few classes.
If you grab someone throw them to a wall that's 5feet away for a top heavy, Side heavy if the wall is close.
If they get out of stamina you go beyblade on them.

>>176155454
>every class except Kensei can punish the shoulderbash
What? How can other classes punish shoulder bash?
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>>176155529
FEELS GOOD
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>>176152770
orochis, lawbringers, and wardens are faster after certain attacks or out of a sprint
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>>176155529
Honorabru
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>>176155529
>hmm the side dash attack didn't work
>Lemme try that side dash attack again
>Man he parried that
>Better side dash attack again

Jesus
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>>176155608
>there is no option for the Warden to win that matchup
Literally just don't shoulder bash. Hit him with a light instead or just reset to neutral if he's trying to bait you into full block.

Shoulder bashing at predictable times can be countered easily be half the cast.
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>>176155608
>Warlord, law or raider are better at ganking than shuggy, aka the ganKING

Now now anon. Don't tell lies on the internet
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>>176156367
What's the point of Warden without shoulder bash? You might as well play Orochi at that point.
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>>176156367
>Shoulder bashing at predictable times can be countered easily be half the cast.
But how senpai, at best it just goes into Neutral.
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>>176155529
>pk only manages to make three attacks
>all parried
>falls for the same trick twice
Simultaneously impressive and embarrassing
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>>176155608

yeah just played a rep 14 warden, Im only level 5 on warlord and I managed to take a round from him, with some practcie I can imagining bodying every warden

is it possible for me to not get chained by headbutting them out of every shoulder bash?
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>>176156961
Yes. That's all you have to do. He can cancel, dodge, then shoulder bash again, but you can just dodge and head butt again in that time.
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>>176156280
>>176156285
>>176156836
if I remember correctly, her and her whole team were all like rep 6 and above
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>>176156469
>What's the point of Warden without shoulder bash?
Warden still has crushing counterstrike and a longer range zone than Orochi. It amazes me how people act like shoulder bash is somehow OP, or that Warden's entire game revolves around shoulder bash.

Against anyone who's actually good, shoulder bash is only good for an occasional surprise attack/mixup. Assassins and Nobushi/Kensei can just do a side dashing attack to completely negate the 50/50, raider can just dodge and tech the gb, and everyone else can just roll away and reset.
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>>176156676
This is why Warden is considered top-tier but has shit performance in tourneys and why Ubi won't nerf him any further - because shitters think he's not counterable when all but Kensei have a punish counter - apparently retards don't know their characters.
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>>176155853
bronze
iron left shoulder
ledric helm, chest, arms

valuan blade
sirius hilt
bellius guard

paisley1 helm
paisley right shoulder + cross paint pattern
vert line standards + elk symbol
back - cross + custom emblem (stannis baratheon emblem i made)

lake side color

what you think anon?
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>>176157195

hmm Ive been getting hit by the follow up bash if they want to light attack, I can't headbutt any faster
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>>176157823
You have to dodge into headbutt immediately - it takes away his gb option and you get the guaranteed damage off of headbutt. He loses no matter what he does in this situation against Warlord.
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>>176157584
>Assassins and Nobushi/Kensei can just do a side dashing attack to completely negate the 50/50
Wrong. At best you'll only be able to do this once. After you pull this trick on any warden he'll just feint the SB then parry you.
>raider can just dodge and tech the gb
Only correct counter. Even if he feints, at best he gets a cgb. I don't know if he can hit you with a light while you're initiating a dashing gb though.
>everyone else can just roll away and reset
At cost of 50% of their stamina. Have fun when you're OOS and getting SB'd to eternity.

>>176157656
His counters are just taking shit to Neutral, but at same time without SB he has shit for offense. He's just an Orochi with range and SB fuckery instead of deflect.
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I figured out my next hurdle, being able to parry lights. I can't do it, any advice or ways to practice?
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>>176157584
Crushing counter is fucking garbage and only mid/low level players fall for it. Orochi can just parry and top heavy for 5 less damage. Zone is irrelevant because of how shitty it is. Again, it's only an issue low/mid level play (when solo). It's a free GB on block, whiff, and even connection if someone grabs you from behind during a gank. Side lights are meant to be used with shoulder bash, because on their own they're just parry bait. Top light is the same. It's reactable from a different guard position. The only thing you can do at that point is turtle up (like iSkys did), or shoulder bash.
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>>176156285
Probably just a reflexive response. You develop bad habits playing against bots and shitters
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ok lads i just tried raider properly for the first time, and this could just be my poor execution in the attempts, but am I right in saying:

1. Raider cannot cancel the second onwards heavy in a chain into stunning tap

2. Raider cannot chain anything more than a single attack after a stunning tap, excluding zone

3. Raider cannot cancel any chain following a stunning tap into zone

If these are true I'm...I'm so sorry raiderbros...you kept insisting how much your character sucks, how little he has, and I thought you were just like the whiny LB mains...

But if this is it....have you considered Kensei?
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>>176157951
He also doesn't have riptide or the backstep top heavy. His kit is limited heavily compared to Roach.
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How do I change which hero I'm fighting in Duel Practice?

I'm sick to death of this shug bot.
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>>176158181
>fighting only lvl 2 bots
anon pls
You can't change the practice bots. you have to play custom matches if you want to practice against other characters
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>>176158071
PC or Console?
Just go to custom match, turn of damage and face off against level 3 pk bot as a Raider.

>>176158181
You can't. But you can go to Custom Match, and turn off damage and put timer to 10minutes with 99 rounds and choose any bot at any level you want to practice at.
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>>176157951
Assassins have to mix it up. It's like if some mid level player caught onto you feinting your heavy into GB. You can't keep doing it, it's obvious that they'd catch the pattern. If the Warden suspects you, top light, zone attack, heavy feint, parry his top light or if he does a heavy, GB him on the startup. It's not hard.

It is not 50% of their stamina. That's a giant exaggeration. By the time the Warden gets to you, you regen all of your stamina. Even if you do land OOS because you have poor stamina management, it's your fault for not keeping a distance. Unlock, and just jog away. He can't SB you. He can running attack you, but that's when you lock on.
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>>176158071
Use m+kb
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>>176155608

Man you are right

just had like 5 games vs a warden, lost the first then downloaded him and scooped the next 4 losing only 1 round

Warlord is an insane counter to Warden, just need to up my reflexes to headbutt when they dash from neutral, that's the only thing that catches me

warden cant even touch you if you play properly, I was just counter attacking everything he did

he started to tilt and I parried him twice after his unsafe attacks, blocked his zone, executes him and he ragequit

Loving warlord atm, didn't realise why he was so OP before I played him but at last I truly see
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>>176158384
Versus Assassin's the 50/50 just turns into 33/33/33, but the correct guess is still advantageous for warden and in all other situation it just ends up in a reset.

>>176158541
>Warlord is an insane counter to Everything.
Fixed that for you anon.
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>>176158541
Warlord is 100% broke OP, but that's okay. I just think his 4v4 potential needs to be turned down.
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How do you play Shugoki well?
He seems way too slow to be effective for me
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>>176157715
ooh the asymmetry with the bronze/iron overall sounds v bold, especially how it's incorporated into the sword (just recreated it in game, actually works really well)

elk symbol is the apex of style, I have it on two of my wardens backs

I'd have to see it firsthand to know if the bronze/iron clashes, but if it doesnt sounds pretty fuckin sexy overall

nice one anon

now you just have to ask yourself if you're willing to go for gold
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>>176158276
>>176158323

Well that sucks.

Thanks though.
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>Extra Free Mode health
>Tough as Nails + Flesh Wound

Gudmundr mode activated
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>>176158619

>Warlord is an insane counter to Everything.

ha true, feels like he can tech throws earlier after a dodge to to me, what about shug? how does he match up vs warlord? since he can tank a headbutt but Im just happy that I can kick warden faggots now, god playing them before was so annoying
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>>176158739
at rep 4 i'd have to wait quite some time to go for gold.
i went with the left shoulder iron because of how huge and bulky it is. i think it's a nice touch.
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>>176158747
Shit, forgot this
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>>176158692
don't think

choose entirely at random how long you hold down the heavy button for

whiff lights, whiff em good

always start every fight with a running charge, no matter who the opponent, no matter what the map

gank; hard

stand completely motionless for up to 5 seconds in the middle of a duel to frighten your opponent

remember that you have armor
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>>176158739
the elk goes with my custom emblem. same with the lakeside colors. the big yellow stripe up my back is the exact same color as my emblems backround color.
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>>176158751
Shug can tank the headbutt yes, but he literally has to counter with a quick light right as warlord goes for headbutt, because shug's HA would break and he'd get staggered to the confirmed light. But thing against Shug is you have to start a fight with GB. It breaks their HA 100% even if techd so yeah, A Smart Warlord will legit fuck up every single thing in game.
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>PK's new execution is a move she does when attacking minions with light attacks
>7k
haha oh wow
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>>176157951
>Wrong. At best you'll only be able to do this once. After you pull this trick on any warden he'll just feint the SB then parry you.
No shit, which is why I said it's only good as a mixup/surprise attack. My point is that the "50/50" that so many people complain about can be easily countered by nearly half the heroes.

>At cost of 50% of their stamina
Gross exaggeration. It's simple, and it works for every character, 100% of the time.

>>176156676
>at best it just goes into Neutral
At best, you get free hits on him in most cases.

If you roll away, it goes back to neutral.
If you choose to try and guess what he's going to do and guess wrong, you take damage.
If you guess right, you get free damage.

Like I said here >>176157584 some characters can flat out negate the basic 50/50 mixup, leaving hard feinting into something else as the Warden's options. The rest can just roll away and reset.
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>>176159064

aye they prob would but a smart shugoki can light attack your gb attempt

with 2 players on equal footing the warlord would be best but I think a very good shug player vs an average warlord player could probably fuck him up
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>>176158926
yeah i did this with loran arms for the same reason for a while

its a shame you cant blend the materials
a black/gold or black/copper combo would be hot stuff

trust me once you get to rep4 lv20 its a vicious spiral, you'll be gold before you know it
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>>176158153
>spoiler
reeeeee stop advertising kensei
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>>176159052
ahh i see

does pumpkin work for that too?
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>>176158153
But can spoiler lad get 40-45 Damage parries and near walls, alongside a 90 damage OOS Punish?
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https://youtu.be/MFW3N75opzI?t=7988

Fucking kek
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>fhg will never play together
im tired of getting matched with random shitters who run during team fights when we're FUCKING BREAKING
why the fuck do you even play the game this honestly pisses me off to no end
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>>176159404
man.. being able to mix black and gold would be fucking sick

>>176159610
yeah, but the yellow on the lakeside is the perfect color for it
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>>176159538
>stop advertising kensei

im not the one posting the sexy ass samurai prints, turning my wakizashi into a katana

you got any more?
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>>176159801
i play with /fhg/ on xbone sometimes
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Would a steam controller be better?
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>>176160295
I don't personally like it. I prefer my 360 controller.
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>>176159697
lol tru

I'm not gonna get into an argument about raider v kensei

Raider is definitely a lot of fun, and i'm on your side here. Ubisoft have just made a very weak character with a lot of potential, and I hadn't realised quite how badly they fucked up.

I took for granted that the stuff I listed here >>176158153
would be in there for sure, and that I was just gonna have to practice it a few times, so imagine my shock
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>>176160329
I figured the right side pad would be better to switch stances instead of slamming a thumbstick. If I had the choice of having switch stance (and heavy attack) be a digital input instead of analog, I'd do it.
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Why does Ubishit allow this guessing game bullshit? And why the fuck are we still playing p2p?

Fuck this game sucks, I quit.
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>>176159792
>Match begins
>Get ledged first thing in
>Second round
>Get ledged a second time
>Observe him as the gates of hell start opening
>You can almost smell the rage until he kick the table

I mean, I'm not going to be that one condescending twat that'll give him shit for not acting like an adult and yadda yadda yadda, we all have our own rage moments but what the fuck
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>>176160859
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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>>176160859
>has a problem with peer to peer

This is how I know that you don't know shit, and your opinion on mixups is fucking garbage. Traditional fighting games are "guessing games" at neutral for every character. Stop being a fucking casual.
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>>176159801

I dont know why there is no steam group
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>>176159009
Im trying but he just seems so shit

I cant get a single attack off because they're so slow, and I barely have any options so im so predictable
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>>176159807
>all black, gold shoulder
>when you SB someone you are literally giving them the Gold Shoulder

wew
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>>176159976
Plenty. Unfortunately I don't have an archive or anything to share, getting them from a russkie social network.
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reminder to never 1v1 Warden and always leave
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>>176161151
That's what the armor is for
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>>176161151
if youre on console then trust in the lights, play the patience game

if youre on pc idk what to tell you- look up some exploits?
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>>176161151
DON'T ATTACK FIRST

Just wait for your opponent to do something, then attack/GB. Then pray that they don't know how to feint and parry.
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>>176161264
what anime is this?
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>>176161276
Reminder to G E T G O O D S H I T T E R
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>>176161151

rep 3 shug here

you have to play around your hyper armor, light + headbutt trade all attacks, if they start doing heavies tank them, always fight near a wall so you can splat them and demons embrace them for 40 hp back

whif heavy the follow up, feint heavies then light

hes not mechanically deep but you have to read your opponents right
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what's the best thing i can do to help my team win a dominion?
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>>176161549
Dark Souls becoming popular was a mistake
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>>176160905
Some say his girlfriend was never found that day.
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>>176161609

split up and diversify

no you don't need you whole team to kill one dude like everyone seems to think, you also dont need to stay on a point fi a teammet is defending it , cap points and defend them, never fight outside an enemies cap point since they still get points

its not hard just comes down to controlling points or if outnumbered holding them at stake mate for as long as you can
ledge everyone you can

its not rocket science
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>>176161664
You were a mistake
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>>176161521
>my little nobushi wife can't be this cute!
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>>176161609
camp a non-battlefield point, until your team has at least 1100 points
seriously

thats how you win, if you want an epic killstreak then play skirmish, otherwise stay put and keep em out
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>>176162013
haha epic!
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>>176162113
danks bro, dun frget to leik n subscrieb xddd
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>>176162071

>killstreaks in skirmish

fuck that, you can rack up massive killstreaks in dominion since you can heal at friendly points
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>it's a turtle Roach episode
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>>176159792
Honestly how does she put up with that? At what point do you reevaluate your choices.
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>>176162318
tru tru

what i really meant was 'if you want to play skirmish with the bellends on the other team at the battlefield point and ignore the important objectives, go and play skirmish'
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>>176162423
Money
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>>176162408

>play roach
>try to counter attack enemies mistakes
>FUCKEN TURTLE!!!!
>be roach
>play aggressive and pressure my opponents
>FUCKEN SPAMMER!!!
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>>176162423
Money and fear

Note how she played with him after to make him feel better about himself
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>>176159792
>All those comments sucking his dick
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>>176162049
>when she finds your futa loli schoolgirl-molested-on-subway tentacle scat vore stash
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>>176162408
>Roach
>Role:
>Assassin, counter attack

Yes, turtling is ass, but they did designed that character with counter attack in mind
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>>176161049
Either every character needs to have a 50/50 shoulder bash or no character should have it.
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>>176162641
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>>176161609
>>176162071
>Spend an entire dominion game holding the point next to the enemy spawn by myself
>Never actually lose it and manage to beat everyone coming to try to take it from me
>My retarded fucking team can't get a single point captured between the fucking three of them
>The second I leave my point to try to help them it gets taken
Dominion is sometimes just unwinnable because your teammates are dead weight who are too fucking retarded to understand how dominion works
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>>176162602
Can't even imagine having self esteem so low that you are willing to continually coddle and prop up someone's ego like that.
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>>176153986
>you don't regen health for sitting on it.
Vanguards do. They also gain bonus renown for killing mooks.
Your strategy fits the Heavy playstyle best.
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>>176162012
>>176162071

i was just seeing how others do it.
when i got a full team i get myself and the best fighter and go to the furthest objective from our spawn.
i'll get the other two to watch the closer one.
one will act as a buffer. they'll be able to push out and clear soldiers when needed but we usually don't let the buffer go past B

spot closest to the spawn gets some flexibility but the one closest to enemy spawn parks their ass and does not leave
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>parry nobu light
>cant gb
>throw a guy off a ledge
>lags back to life and kills me
>dodging doesnt work against any of the bash attacks in the game
what am i doing wrong jesus fucking christ
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12918842
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>>176163235
Since there's no options for it in your fuckass pole I'll say here that I even do I'm fine with them since they encourage proper positioning, I also think the maps simply have too much of them.
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>>176163407
>That I even do
Holy fuck am I tired.
That even though*
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>>176163142

pretty much, B is Irrelevant unless the other teams are heavily defending the other points

I usually park the bus on the enemy point but also run to cap other undefended lost objectives

just remeber most players are retarded, there have been games where Ive defend a or c for the whole game and I lose it to a big attack, when I run straight back there is non one there, defending points is very important

you will like this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZHLJjoMCW8
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Did the PK nerfs even really change anything? It sounds like her second light now comes out slightly slower, and her first light is no longer positive on block.

The Warden nerfs are also extremely reasonable, really glad they didn't fuck with him too much.
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>Nobushi keeps using their zone
>except it comes out incredibly fast and does major damage even when I'm blocking


??????
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>>176164224
Aye. The only thing I could possibly want more with Warden is more moves or maybe a new stance? Something that gives him the ability to half-sword/use mordhau. His kit is really limited.
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>>176149110
if you use hurricane you're asking to get punished

use wind gust for guaranteed damage
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>Conq

Man, I thought he was still good until I started to improve alot over the last week

that poor fucker is so awful now, annoying as fuck but awful
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>>176164257

Nobushi is the new hot cancer. The guy was abusing her unlocked ZA.
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what's the best way to train as warden? I need to learn to counter top and to parry lights.
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>>176164620
Add me on uPlay my man. Aliens218
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>get raped in 1v1
>twice
>still get hatemail

I'm just trying to play the game. I literally remember when I used to b THAT competitive. damn thats cancer
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>>176164423
Nah, playing him currently feels great, answers to everything without being free, I couldn't ask for anything else.

>>176164620
Fight a lot of Wardens, realizing what does and doesn't work is really helpful, and it also teaches you a lot about what shoulder can and can't do which is very important since it's one of the most flexible offensive tools in the game.
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Has the timing for teching guard breaks changed again? I know I haven't played in a month but I used to be able to consistently get them out post beta, but now I can't do them for shit and need to know if its just me.
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>>176164610

What the fuck.

Season 2 can't come soon enough, jesus.
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>>176164851
I'm a rep 30 Warden. High level play with him is cancer, I do better with my rep 5 Zerker and level 15 Kensei. Top lights are consistently parried, and zone attacks are automatically blocked because they're predictable.
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>he still uses controller

why are you holding yourselves back anons?

can you spot the day I started using m+kb
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>>176149717
JUST ROLL AWAY BRO
WARDEN SHOULDER CAN'T BEAT YOU IF YOU JUST DON'T PLAY THE GAME
JUST TURN OFF THE GAME BRO
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>>176165039

>Assuming my gender
Fuck off?
And you just don't play fighters with kbm, that's gay.
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>tfw some would be roach keeps dash attacking three times in a row
AD MORTEM INIMICUS
AD MORTEM INIMICUS
AD MORTEM INIMICUS
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>>176165039
fak
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>enemies feint into GB me, untechable since I tried to parry
>try doing this myself
>my GB bounces off their heavy and I eat it

I don't understand. I'm not GBing late or anything, I buffer the input.
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>>176162880
Either every character should have the exact same moves or nobody should have any moves.
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>>176164605
i've been doing alright as conq.
you pretty much need punch through with conq though. which sucks because heal on block sounds like a cool feat
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>>176165178
I find it hilarious, but I always feel bad when this happens.

I feel like it's the equivalent of beating up an autistic kid in real life
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>>176165019
well 30f moves are pretty reactable, shoulder mixups are what's actually effective

if you're in close and have solid defense, your enemy needs to read you pretty hard to get out of damage

>>176165410
considering how bullshit free side dash attacks are, I never feel bad about it
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>>176165107
Stop letting him initiate it then.

Yes, it's really that simple. If you can't parry 500ms lights then you'll be shit at this game forever. And if he does a dodge bash you can just GB him out of it.
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>>176165154

thisi sin;t your usual fighter, there's no complex inputs to master, shit is just better on keyboard, you have your hands on all functions at once assuming you have mouse 4 and 5

mouse blocking is hnnnng
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Remove Valkyrie from console version pls
that is all
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>>176158942
Shield dragging intensifies*
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I want a controller where the change stance and heavy attack is digital instead of a stick or having to move a mouse in analog that is objectively worse. I want it to have paddles so I don't have to re-position my thumb at all. I want a dedicated zone button. I want something akin to a fighting controller but for this game.
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>>176164912
please respond
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>>176165178
I did this the other day to a kensei who had his unblockable feat up

he kept throwing light attacks at me and I parried / ad mortem'd them one by one until he was dead
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>>176165743

you might be doing them too fast anon, wait til they hit you
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>>176165339
Every character should have the same footing in battle.
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>Ubisoft removes Parry->GB
>Elimination turns into cancer because you can't Execute anyone anymore

Screenshot this post
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>>176165878
Eliminations are cancer already, anon
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>>176165680
remove yourself
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Looks like people think instant environmental kills should exist, but it's split between having an option of them. Is it because certain heroes are built with these in mind and if they weren't there they would be objectively gimped?
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>>176166308

no its more like

>1v1
>how the fuck are you getting gbed?
>good players who enjoy good fights will rarely throw you off
>only bad players will ledge nonstop

>2v2
>same as above

>4v4
>ledge all you want


yeah they are cheap in 1v1's but you shouldn't be getting gaurdbroken that often where its deciding the outcome of the match
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>>176166308
only the raider would suffer
warlords and LBs could manage without
shugokies no longer apply
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>>176165680
Parry em ya dunce
The second light is basically a guaranteed parry if you're hit by the first one
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when are they going to patch warlord and peacekeeper out of the game
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When are we getting fucking wing ornaments on the Kangz? We had them on the campaign
Kniggers already got DAUBENY wings ;_;
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>>176165861
Literally no fighting game in history that has ever had meaningful competitive play or sales has bought this stupid fucking idea.

Just stop playing the game you shitter.
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>>176167052
#justwarlordthings
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>>176159792
>that fucking table kick
its a frustrating game sometimes, but come on man.
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test
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>>176167012

Warlord isnt even that bad to face desu

hes OP but I don't think anything he has is total bullshit other than maybe the throw distance

he just has an awful lot of tools
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>>176167012
They're not. Since the peace shitter nerf, she's totally fair to fight. I still lose to PKs sometimes, but it's when they actually out play me.
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>>176167297
>he just has an awful lot of tools
that's the problem, like you said nothing on its own besides the throw distance is that insane, but all together it makes a character that has waay to many options.
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>>176167297
Warlord is an unstoppable god in 4v4 once he gets all his broken as fuck passive feats. He hits harder, and when you heavy hit him it only damages him like a light attack. It's horribly broken
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>shugoki gb's you after you poke him to rid him of his super armor or he parries you, he tosses you into a wall, and hugs you
>you lose a chunk of health and he regens some or you're outright killed, and his super armor back by the time you're up caught up to him
Isn't having one character possess both natural super armor and a come back mechanic a bit broken, when they're the only character in the game with either of those?

t. someone's who's upset after getting buttfucked by shugoki but still thinks he has a legitimate point
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>>176167434
I forgot to mention his feats in my post here>>176167415

that's the other thing I can think of that's just insanely OP. his feats give him raid boss tier survivability
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>>176167368
they still can reliably win against 90% of players just by lightspamming
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>>176159792
>Pony feint at 7:31
kek'd
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>>176167609
you have to play it super safe against shugoki when you're anywhere near a wall, also that feat he gets that prevents him from being knocked down at all is a little OP if you ask me
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>>176167415

I know but fighting him still feels honest, he has more tools to outplay you but he still has to outplay you, the only bullshit he can win by is ledging

>>176167434

Idc about 4v4 shit desu man even though I main Dominion, most characters get their own brand of bullshit feats that can put them on a level close enough to Warlord
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>>176167609
>getting gb'ed

lol you are just bad

>>176167721
>not blocking

Dude, it's not the devs fault that people suck ass at the game. They can't gimp characters because casuals that thought this wasn't a fighting game don't know how to play.
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>>176167297
he's impossible to open up if he turtles, can still safely spam headbutts, has armor on too many attacks, his parry timing is fuckside down retarded,
he straight up gets an extra life every minute if the match goes on long enough
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>>176167795
>Dude, it's not the devs fault that people suck ass at the game.
her lightspam is still unreactable to 4 characters, that's not an acceptable rework
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>>176167837

depends on who you play, alot of characters have trouble opening turtles

the 2nd life feat isn't even that good, its a bit of a gimmick, fire flask is much better
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>>176167937
No, it isn't. Stop parroting this Reddit bull shit.
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>>176167748
Except all of Warlords best feats are passive feats, so he isn't affected by cool down time at all. For the entire fucking game he tanks heavy hits with the damage of a light attack. It's THE most broken set of feats in the game
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>>176168049
>hurr I disagree so it's reddit
hey bud when an attack comes out faster than a character can switch stances it's by definition unreactable
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>>176168137
Every character switches stances at the same speed for the first three or four stance switches, then it slows down for the ones you're talking about.

It's Reddit bull shit.
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>>176167609
>Shug just turtles next to a wall
>No way to stop him unless you're playing Warlord for headbutt stab
>He gets a free heal off of a wall splat
>DUDE JUST GET GUD LMAO
I hate shugs
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I wish conq wasn't such a FAGGOT


He looks fucking COOL and beats the shit out of nerds with his flail, and knocking the shit out of people is fun as FUCK. I hate that he's such a lame ass turtle class with 0 options
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>>176168109

maybe you have a point but I still have no trouble taking down warlords of any rep, Im just running off my experience

I suppose my point being is that he has alot of stuff but he's not bullshit by way of moveset of even power of his feats, he simply has too much good stuff on him

I honestly would rather fight a warlord than a warden
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Everyone ITT and in every /fhg/:

>nerf this character because I refuse to learn the counter or practice the game

The game, as far as fighters go, is pretty fucking balanced. Unless you play Kensei, you are on equal enough footing that you COULD win if you are better than your opponent. Stop being bad.
t. not a kensei player
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>>176167748
>almost shugoki-tier at trading hits
>LB tier at throwing / pushing people around
>can open turtles up with a relatively safe headbutt
I don't consider warlord honest, he's considered the best character in the game for a reason: he almost has almost half of the cast combined in his kit
>the feats are fine because other characters get OP feats too
warlords feats are far and away the most OP, its insane how I as a raider can land a heavy on a warlord and do like 1 bar of damage if he has his feats up.
>>176168227
if PK is throwing raw lights, its easy enough to deal with, but any PK who know uses their feint button becomes a real handful. same with zerker.
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>>176168485
>a good player is hard to deal with

NO FUCKING KIDDING?

Are you guys for real right now? Ubi can't balance the game so that everyone wins every fight when there are two different human beings playing against each other. God damn, everyone is such a bitch. Accept when you can improve and understand that not every loss is because of imbalance.
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>>176168643
>ubisoft can do no wrong
When did ubisoft of all developers start getting a defense force
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>>176168010
>the 2nd life feat isn't even that good, its a bit of a gimmick, fire flask is much better
Are you dumb or something? As long as he doesn't die next to a ledge Warlord gets a second life, WITH all his other passive feats that make him the perfect goddamn tank. And when he revives you only get to GB or heavy him once before he can block, which means nothing considering he tanks heavies for the damage of a light
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>>176168643
>knowing how to do basic feints makes you good
???
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>>176168480
are you high?

SB/Shield bash would be like giving Ryu an unblockable, uncounterable punch that can only be 'countered' by running away or having insane reaction times that only like top3 players would ever have.
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>>176168236

gb to remove armor

>>176168773

Fire flask is still better
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Will Warden feel even remotely OP once the defensive meta is dead? I'm pretty sure he only sticks out because you can't turtle against him like you can against everyone else, but he himself can still turtle against you.
What if no one could turtle?
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>>176167795
>banned from console tournaments
>balanced
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>>176168780
t. Somebody who doesn't play Street Fighter
Go play 3s on Fightcade right now and bitch when somebody mashes UOH on you because you're garbage lol
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>>176168780
>top 3 players

Not even him, but I can counter and punish Warden shoulderbash with ease. git gud nigga
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>>176168480
what? kensei isn't bad. just get your mindgames going and you can take people on your wild ride
>>176168643
the other poster was trying to tell you this but I guess you're not a good listener: if the assassin uses feints to bait your guard changes you will not be able to keep up with the lights. it's not a matter of skill at that point but a matter of the guard stance limitation of certain characters. it doesn't help that PK's zone cancel only got a token nerf that really doesn't change things.
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>>176168780
Also, those moves do exist. they're called command grabs.
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>>176168871
>UOH
>UNIVERSAL

YEAH IF IT WAS UNIVERSAL I WOULDN'T BE COMPLAINING, INSTEAD THE THREE MOST OP FUCKING CHARACTERS HAVE IT
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>>176168480
>The game, as far as fighters go, is pretty fucking balanced.
>Shug having regenerating super armor and guaranteed heal grab on wallsplat is balanced
>Warlord having his insanely bloated kit and feats, paired with his mile long throw is balanced
>Warden having his guessing game shoulder bash that has more mix ups than entire characters have is balanced
>Flickering with Orochi and PK is balanced
>Lawbringer having no way to open people up and his buff just making him a turtle that doesn't have to risk parrying is balanced
I like this game, but it's nowhere near fucking balanced.

Tell me right now how as a Lawbringer I'm meant to take down a Warlord. I have no safe openers, and shoving out of neutral will easily get dodged. My only option is to turtle, but even then I have to deal with him using headbutt.
This game will never improve is retards like you defend horribly balancing and claim it's just a matter of getting gud
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>>176168485
>A teamed up pair of coordinated enemy warlords have made it their mission to clear control points
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>>176169259
I wish I could post crying laughing emojis at a Lawbringer, a now top-tier hero, complaining about balance.
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>>176168812
>Fire flash lets you take half of someones health bar
>Second life revives you and gives you full health to kill them again
>You can also purposefully trigger second life by jumping off a ledge to avoid being executed
You're fucking dumb anon. Also GBing shug to remove his armor doesn't stop him from turtling next to the wall for his wall splat heal grab
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>>176168875
i have awful reaction time

>>176169006
not the same. command grabs dont track your movement like sb does.
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>>176169259
I think the mistake they made when designing characters like LB is that they only ever wanted them to play a reactionary game and just thought it was fine that he has no openers
>>176169414
>LB
>top tier
every time.

only warlord, warden, and PK are top tier.
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>>176169414
Except you still didn't say how you're supposed to open up a Warlord as Lawbringer. His buff did nothing but encourage him to turtle, we still have no way of opening people up. And shoving out of neutral will easily be dodged.
He's mid tier at best, and that's purely because he's now an efficient turtle.

So go ahead, if Law is supposedly top tier tell me how you open up a Warlord
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>>176169414
>has no way to open up turtles
>top tier
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Does Kensei get a free guardbreak off of any blocked light attack? Kept fucking happening to me and i couldn't counter guard break

Also
>Warden fucking turned 180 to hit me with shoulder bash
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>>176169414
>people actually think lawbringer is top tier
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>>176169596
>just use mind games anon god!!!!
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>>176169585
Lawbringer would be so fucking easy to fix it's ridiculous.
>Speed up long arm
>Speed up the recovery on long arm if you whiff it
>Give us the ability to feint long arm into a top light
>Remove shove off block and instead make it shove off getting hit
He's instantly better
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>>176169467

>Half
>HALF

2nd life is only good in a 1v1 scenario which rarely happens in the 4v4 modes, there also and its especially useless in both skirmish and dominion unless you have a really tight match and if you get executed its useless, 2v1 you are still kinda fucked, fire flask is a great feat and is much better
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You guys are pretty cool. Don't come to Citadel Gate tomorrow.
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>>176169781
>Look fire flask is good if you pair it with bear trap that damages them and keeps them trapped in the fire instead of letting them roll out of it!
You're just proving my point here. Fire flask is easy to escape when you see it coming, at the most I get hit by the edge of the fire before I escape the area.

Meanwhile second life has won me so many fucking games.
>2v1 you're fucked as Warlord
I'd like to introduce you to my friend named ledges anon, get to fucking know them
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Why is every atack so fucking slow?
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>>176169901
nice meme
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>>176169969

she was out of the bear trap, the explosion took all of her remaining hp

yeah it'll win you elimination but that's means its just good in 1 mode, if people are getting ledged by a warlord of all things with that slow as fuck gb they are uselss

any way can we just fucking stop, no one ever changes their mind in these silly arguments and they are a waste of energy

I hope 2nd life wins you many more matches anon happy ledging
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>>176170128
Yes she was out of the bear trap, but she was exhausted and stuck in place for the actual explosion. My point is that if you don't pair fireflask with a bear trap it's laughably easy to dodge away from it.
We can stop, I'm just saying mixed with his passive feats you can't pass on second life
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New shinobi information
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>Samurai will never get a mood effect that makes a red 天 appear on their back briefly
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>>176170414
Turn off all effects.
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>>176169901
>not terminator.jpg
anyone whose ever posted this without that name needs to die
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>>176170401
>discord
>random faggot
>those shitty emotes
epic
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eiUtVT-MA4
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>>176169732
i've had a valk do the same
one time shugo hugged me like that too
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>>176170401
2/2
there's also some centurion info if people want that
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For Honor is at the E3 hype level. The only problem is the matchmaking network issues which spooks casual amigos.
Prove wrong.
Protip: You can't
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>>176170761
I can't, you're right.
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>>176170521
>expecting everybody to know your weebshit inside jokes
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>>176170757
>there's also some centurion info if people want that
please, elucidate us.
>>176170761
its the network issues and the balance issues (which aren't as bad as launch, to the devs credit)

otherwise I really like the game.
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>>176169767
instantly broken, more like.
shove off getting hit. really nigger? you'd never be able to combo him.
long arm recovery time is just fine. wouldn't be able to punish it otherwise.
>feint long arm into up light
no
lb is supposed to be a counter attacker. you can open em up easy enough once they swing.
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>>176171065
alright then
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>>176170761
What about separate matchmaking pools for premades
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>>176171338

If this is true the Centurion seems like a kensei with ways to actually open people up
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>>176171338
>This is similar to PK's stab combo except it does no damage
Why would anyone ever use this unless Centurion has a good wallsplat punish? Why would you use it if there's no wall and the first two bashes can't deplete the entire enemy stamina bar?
>>
Post the heroes that personally give you the most trouble.

This list pertains to non Duel/Brawl modes:

>"Immediately quit" tier
more than 1 Conq
more than 1 Warlord
more than 2 Lawbringers
an enemy team of Warlord, Warden, Conq, and LB
>"Consider leaving" tier:
Warlord
PK
>"dude ____ is low-tier bruh ur just bad lmao" tier
Berzerker
Raider
Conquerer
>"Tedious as FUCK" tier
LB
Warden
Shugoki
>"Actually really enjoyable to fight" tier
Kensei
also Raider
Orochi
Valk
Warden (when playing as warden)
>"I kinda feel bad fighting them" tier
Nobushi


And as for Duel/Brawl:

>"No, just no" tier
Warlord
Conq
Shugoki (yes even post nerf)
PK
>"Mixed bag of either fun or absolute cancer" tier
Warden
Raider
Lawbringer
Orochi
Berzerker
>"Gauranteed fun" tier
Warden (when playing as Warden)
Valk
Nobushi
Kensei
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>>176159792
Praise is weird man. I want to like him because he's usually chill and respectful but then he'll do off the wall childish shit in small doses. Not to mention he thinks every character is trash while simultaneously pretty neato shit with them.
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>>176172524
>he honestly thinks berzerker is good in any way
literally just a neutered PK with less options
you're literally bad
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>deflects shit on warden top light
>blocking left shits on warden
>centurion can do both
Is this the end of warden?
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>>176173087
yeah thats why all the top youtubers and streamers play him and are able to completely dismantle 4v1 ganks within a 4 second period with their feats active

also thanks for proving my point btw
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>>176166308
>N=14
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>>176173364
wait, cent is going to have a deflect?
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>>176173408
>he still complains about feats
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>>176173364
Warden is literally only good at low-level play

All the shitters in this thread need to practice the game before bitching, damn
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>>176173531
not complaining about feats, i'm just pointing out that some characters have overall better feat options than others, and Berzerker is the primary example.

Don't beleive me? Watch at 2:49
https://youtu.be/uZdqA44XCX8?t=2m49s
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>>176170592
>Random faggot who went to Montreal to play the new heroes.

I mean you are free to disregard it, but it is likely legit.
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>>176173364
>that image
Persian Immortals when?
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>>176173660
You can not parry his top light on console
Deflecting is possible if you dodge as soon as you see it.

I can easily parry valk, nobushi, first peacekeeper light, but warden top light is impossible.
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>>176174287
It's exactly the same speed as those.
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>>176174287
they're all the same speed
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>>176174287
It's possible, it's just that if your reaction speed is slow for some reason (tired, distracted, etc.) you're going to miss it.
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>>176173364
I fucking hope centurion is the warden stopper, i fucking he hope he is able to punish every thing the warden does somehow, especially his shoulder bash
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>>176174540

Warlord already in the game anon
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>>176174286
Which faction would you even shove middle eastern warriors into?
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>starting shoulder bash on neutral is suicide
>people still complaing
How fucking bad are you people?
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>>176174454
>>176174412
>>176174420
The parry window is non existent
If I dodge when I see him do top light it deflects every time

If I try and parry it just blocks or I get hit.
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>>176174636
Immortals were Persian
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>>176174742
The average player in this game is REALLY bad, I didn't realize this until recently. It's pretty scary.
>>
>trade heavys with a pk as raider
>I lose more health than she does
STAT REWORK LITERALLY CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH
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>>176175090
The average player in every game is pretty terrible. We don't notice it because we tend to be matched with people of similar skill and interact with people on forums about the game.
We are usually shielded from the idiocy.
Usually.
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>>176175410
I think PK gets a damage reduction feat
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>>176174989
I know. Persia was in the middle east.
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>>176175430
What if we're the idiots though
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>>176175814
>Persia was in the middle east.
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All of you cunts that brag about leaving games are fucking cancer. I hope Ubi starts handing out half hour bans for leavers.
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>>176175554
T W O H U N D R E D A N D T H I R T Y
HEALTH ON A (((ASSASSIN)))
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>>176176043
>Persian Empire is any of a series of imperial dynasties centered in Persia (modern–day Iran).
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>>176176142
oh I'm not trying to justify it, its nonsense.
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>>176176238
>Iran is in the Middle East
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Valk nerf when?
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This elite outfit is nice, if not just for the ornament
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>>176176370
Go to bed Ardashir I
>>
Cool, so I got a new PC and I can now play this game. Playing on a keyboard.


Where do I start?
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>>176176768
>Thracia
>Middle East
Try again, Edrogan
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>>176176786
click the icon that says for honor, after you have installed it.
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Can somebody tell me what is so "bad" about zerk?


>faster feint tech than kensei
>lights almost as fast as PK but with almost twice the damage
>overall better damage than most characters
>best feats in the game
>devastating top heavy
>assasin so deflect tech and can dodge all day
>decent zone attack that can do a full health bar of bleed with the proper feat

the only bad thing i can think about is reflex guard, less HP because assassin, and that he doesnt have any sort of way to really combat turtles
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>>176177039
its that last 'unable to combat turtles' part that fucks berserker up int he defensive meta

also i wish hybrids had deflect too.
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>>176177137
valk does
>>
The biggest faggots in for honor are

orochis

peacekeepers

lawbringers

warlords

wardens
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>>176177339

but but lawbros XD

Lawbringers even when they were shit are the biggest faggots


I dont get everyone complains about the samurai but the knights have the real cancerous fanbase
>>
Is this game dying?
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>>176177443

DUDE

ANIME

WEEBS

XD
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>>176171172
>lb is supposed to be a counter attacker
>This justifies him having absolutely no way to open people up
>Just turtle or get parried lmao
I bet you also think he's top tier
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>>176177443
I disagree, the knights' cheeze factors really only come into play in gank scenarios

meanwhile the VIKANGZ have the shittiest attitudes no matter what

samurai just meme to the point of cringing, except for orochi mains who get really fucking mad for some reason
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>>176177339
Cancerous players tend to main low tier heroes and proceed to bitch about everything. The only faggots are people who use warlord to his fullest extent of cancer and people who abuse the fuck out of bugs. Everything else is fine.
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>>176177286
i want lawbringers to have deflect
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>>176162912
>camping my point and holding it
>team just zerg rushes the fighting thats happening at B for the entire game
>don't even try to get points

dominion was a mistake
>>
The more I play dominion the more I feel like its a shit mode
>>
>>176177889

>ayy yo stay on one point
>>
>>176177523

I'll take the lack of replies as a yes.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgDBDQ04wrY
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>People still complain about being ganked when playing 4v4
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to give to the guy who asked for a tutorial last thread, feel free to change the positioning on the symbols or whatever to fit your outline, i just like the look of the one we got for the faction war
>>
>Ubisoft makes a highly competitive shooter that want to last for years to come
>R6 Siege has dedicated servers and really good map variety, but shitty modes

>For Honor wants to do the same
>No dedicated servers and the maps fundamentally feel similar
>Stopped half way between making it a MOBA and making it a fighting game for some reason so it's neither

Is ubisoft officially the /worst company/?
>>
>>176178543
>moba

What?
>>
>dueling zerker as a raider
>literally cannot block against him because of gaurd change speed

When you literally cannot win because of the game mechanics, they need to change. Not having guard change speed the same across all characters was a stupid decision.
>>
>>176178543
Siege doesn't need more modes

Have you seen games that have to much useless modes like titanfall 2?
>>
>>176178543

Ubisoft is an alright company maybe a little dumb


I like the season 2 changes a lot
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>>176178608
dominion is clearly inspired by mobas
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>>176178608
Dominion is literally like "We wanted to make the game a MOBA but decided not to part way through"

It's clear they could have taken it to full moba lengths if they really wanted to

>>176178806
I didn't say Siege needed more modes, and using Titanfall as a hyperbolic example of why having

>two many modes
>and a REALLY fucking horrible menu system

as a reason for not having good modes, is not a good argument friend.
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>>176178639
>Not having guard change speed the same across all characters was a stupid decision.
while I agree with this, you just need to take zerker out of his comfort zone to beat him. don't sit up in his grill while he feints and whacks you, don't play his game. a lot of zerker players like to play aggressively, if you backpedal a bit them come after you. what I like to do is back off a bit, then wind up a heavy. mix up your heavies with the stun tap, once he's conditioned to the stun tap just go back to throwing raw heavies. it doesn't take too long before he's dead.

that being said, a good zerker player is a real handful for any of the slow guard stance switching characters.
>>176178924
>I like the season 2 changes a lot
is there a list of all the changes somewhere?
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>>176179026
dominion is literally a control the zone, which is not a moba gametype at all.
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>Legion won the tourney with a character he didn't even play
You can't make this shit up.
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>>176179150
>a good zerker player is a real handful

yea, this guy was good. he knew specifically how to counter raiders. nothing I could do would put him off.
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>>176177630
Same with Shugoki mains. Who always insist they are better than you when they lost.
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>>176179205
it has minions, and shoehorned level ups. I'm not trying to say it's a carbon copy, just that it took inspiration.
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>>176178454
That was me. Thank you kindly sir.
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>>176179103
>TF2
>Horrible menu
Did you even play the game?
You have a checklist of game modes you want to search for that have a player count, then you press play
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>>176179205
Except part of the way in which you control the zone is you have to escort minions to it.

If they did this for all 3 zones, then made it a tug of war deal with multiple, consecutive zones for each lane, it'd literally be a MOBA verbatim.

I don't understand how you can't see it's MOBA esqe
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>>176178639
stop being so aggressive man, i main Raider and you can do fine against zerker if you're not aggressive. Just block his attacks rather than try to parry all of them. wait to parry his attacks, wait for the side dodge+light and parry that, its a free top heavy. you got to be cautious against fast opponents when playing Raider. Mix in some lights, not the stun tap cause they can dodge it easily. It might be hard, but its not impossible.
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>>176179642
I don't understand how you think it's a moba, where are the towers? Where is the core you need to destroy?
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Why haven't these fucking devs even touched warlord? He is obviously broken
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>>176179918
They nerferd him a while ago.
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>>176179918
He isn't broken, he is just good.
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>>176179587
If you are this much of a newfag that you missed the first 4 months of Titanfall 2, don't reference it as an argument.
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>>176179992
I've been playing since launch spastic, the menu system was never fucked.

An example of a fucked menu would be H1Z1 where it can open up debug shit that you can't leave without restarting the game.
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>>176179875
Towers aren't critical to the MOBA mode. If you made a MOBA that didn't have towers and had control zones instead the fundamental mechanics are the same - the towers are only there to act as hard stops for minions. Otherwise lacking player influence no matter how close / far you are from the base they will eventually trend back to the center of the map

Unless if you had clever design that would account for that
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>>176179976
oh you mean like how they """"nerfed"""" warden's sb?
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>>176180127
>I've been playing since launch
>I referenced something from the mid February patch that was SPECIFICALLY put in to address just how fucked the menu systems were

So the having a billion game modes where your front page only displays so many of them, and you have to manually tab over to a second page of lesser played modes, in no way was bad design, and they just happened to patch that out because reasons?
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>>176180295
>have to move a tab over
>wow this menu is so fucked
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>>176173497
Yes, Centurion has a deflect.
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>>176180483
>the menu is both 100% fine while simultaneously being broken enough to have to patch it out

Come back when you want to act like an adult.
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>Even if we get ranked every mode besides duels will be plagued with honorfags
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It's so easier to parry on mouse, will be hard to get used tho.
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Instant kills are retarded on 1v1s, who thought that would be a good idea?
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>>176180562
>It's broken because I say It's broken

Sick argument kid.
I guess any quality of life patch is fixing something broken now.
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>>176166308
NO heroes are built around ledges, they just benefit from it more than others.
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>>176181073
I mean any sort of person with any basic common sense would understand how UI influences user choice... and you can find any number of articles that explain how important UI design is for any number of reasons all of which feed back into user experience and influencing usage into areas you want users to actually utilize.

>quality of life patch
>literally the definition of improving something because it's not as good as it can be
>I GUESS IT MEANS NOTHING WRONG EH?

Listen, friend, I understand it's the internet and it's not fun to admit you made a mistake, but take a deep breath and come back at this with a clear head.
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>>176180831
1v1 isn't the main game mode, it's breaking it down to the smallest components, which includes the environment.
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>>176181409
>horrible menu
>needing to move over one tab to play the objectively inferior game modes with low player pop

Champ I think you might have a touch of the autism if this is what constitutes a failure in UI design for you. This is not horrible or even bad.
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>when everything falls into place
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>>176177443
'lawbros' is just an excuse to act and play like a huge cunt


the only time it was funny was when a peacekeeper told a law and a conq to stop spamming emotes, and he said "This is the prime of crusading culture you disgusting hag"
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>>176181994
i was expecting you to wallbang and top heavy him and time it right when he lost his revenge defense

you woulda had it, too. his health was low enough
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>>176181912
I mean any sort of basic, first year design philosophy disagrees with you and that any barriers negative impact user interaction but I guess you somehow know better.
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So what character is the best to learn first to teach myself the fundamentals of For Honor?
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>>176182234
All three vanguards.
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GET RID OF TRACKING HOLY SHIT
NOBUSHIS KICK
WARDNES SHOULDER
HEADBUTSS
THE SHOVE

STOP REEE
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>>176182234
Don't learn the Nobushi first unless you want to be capable of only playing Nobushi. She is dank as fuck but she, like, is the only character who you can really play the way she plays so it will set you back in learning other people.
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Is there any reason why Ubi still allows Warlord to have his unlock tech? I was just fucking one up so bad, but all he had to do was start unlock tech 50/50'ing me and I got fucked on.
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>>176182234
Berserker. The character gives you nothing for free: all success with him comes from the person playing him.

Plus, you get to learn most of the basic mechanics. He has the best deflect, so you get to actually use it and learn how to properly deflect, and he also has reflex guard, so you can't just leave your guard on the direction of your enemies fastest attack.
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>>176182306
As in any of the three or I should switch between them often?
>>176182398
Okay.
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>>176182198
I always panic when I get deflects because I never expect them to work
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>>176182509
If you really don't know, pick Raider. He's big, slow, and has a small list of moves. And be sure to do the advance tutorial and watch whichever hero you're learning's "how to play" videos.
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>>176182496
This is the biggest crock of shit I've ever read. No character gives you anything for free. Literally what the fuck are you writing.
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r8 my zerker
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>>176172106
It says you can cancel into a throw, so possibly to deplete stamina on the first two hits then throw them on the ground. If the leaping stab does that much damage, it could be a viable thing to do off a GB.
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>>176183065
getting a block as a lawbringer gives you a free 50/50
being at neutral as warden gives you a free 50/50
being at neutral as warlord gives you free damage and stamina drain
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chivalry is a much better game
and mordhau will even beat that desu
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>>176155224
>you are now completely out of stamina because a roll uses half of it.
>the warden runs up and starts vortexing again and now you have no hard counter
I used to make the same shitposts back when warden was my only main.
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>>176183065
>Play a character that isn't Berserker
>Have a bash that confirms hits
>Have an unblockable that I can use to punish exhaustion
>Have confirmed lights or GBs off of blocks
>Play Berserker
>Have nothing
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>>176183428
Ah yes. I remember when I used to lie on the Internet and make the most braindead of shitposts. Your stamina regens by the time Wardens reaches you again.
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>>176183428
>play Nobushi
>Can sprint without any stamina at all

Feels good mane
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>>176183227
epic!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogNUcZznYbg
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>>176183581
Since you're the one posting this I'm going to assume that you are a warden main. There's a chance you might be diagnosably retarded if you can't reach someone who has rolled away before their stamina regens and begin vortexing them again.
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>>176184239
what a terrible video
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>>176183227
Very cool
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>when the roach is so predictable you start consistently parrying his zone

Have I ascended?
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>>176183450
Yes, berserker doesn't have infinite combos, the best feinting in game, incredibly high punish on wall splat, nothing.

He's useless. Why should he even get axes?
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>>176185031
>infinite combos
>3 heavies and he's out of stamina
yeah, ok usa
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>>176185031
>infinite "combo" that's literally parry bait
>block
>above average wall splat damage will never matter on players who do above.
T.rep 8 zerk
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>>176183065
Some heroes have zones or safe bashes that are free damage.
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What even is warlord?

>best move set
>best throw
>best bash
>deceptive attacks
>amazing defence
>feats that increase heath, boost attack, and make chip damage like eating a light

With that attack boost his heavies hit like a fucking truck. Combined with attack/defense gear he's nearly unkillable.
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>>176182234
Berserker or Kensei probably.
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>>176185919
he's the best around and nobody can take him down
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>>176185919
Don't forget lights that block and heavies with super armor, and a dashing charge
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>ey bro just dodge wardens shoulder charge
>ignore the fact that he can charge it off to offset the timing
>or still cancel it and get a GB
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>>176185986
this.

both of these characters have very few gimmicks and are all about fundamentals.
>>176185919
yeah its fucking insane. they need to give him another swing with the nerf bat
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>>176186253
it isn't anyone's fault but your own that you're bad
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>>176186389
No one is going to take you seriously warden main.
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>Playing Elims as Berserker
>Keep getting faced up with an Orochi
>Deflects me and does Hurricane
>Attempt to dodge away from it once
>Doesn't worry, still get hit by it and can't hit them out of it

Is there a way to counter it? Roll away from it or something? Or do you HAVE to get hit by it?
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>>176186253
>block left
>parry top
>gb or light punish dash sb attempts
>watch stamina and never get low
>warden can literally not do anything but turtle
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>>176186670
Damn, meant to say *work
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>Be a hopeless pervert
>Play Nobushi because shes a perfect wife
>Keep playing against a LB in 1v1s
>He keeps beating me hard because of the parry into unblockable top
>Keep going against him again and again
>Hard as fuck at the idea of being hopelessly dominated
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>>176185575
Zerker has the best fient game in the game, if your getting parries all the time as zerker you need to adjust.
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>1v1 against a warlod that turtles

no fun
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>>176186848

So this is how cucks happen
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>>176185575
it isn't anyone's fault but your own that you're bad
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>>176187059
what if dont want to watch and i want to be the girl
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Peacekeeper and warlord being removed when?
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>>176187619
then you're a faggot
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>>176187716
i know this though
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>>176187657
>being bad enough that peacekeeper is a problem for you

[laughing emojis intensify]

t. someone who would never consider playing the class
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tfw perfect roach removal
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>>176186848
>Play no bushy
>Attack LawbriAD MORTEM INIMICUS
>whoops half my health is gone

this is the worst matchup in the whole fucking game
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>>176188312
Just use your kick bleed combo
Works ery tim for me but then again most LB's I fight are brain damaged
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>>176183227

Why do people insist on first-person melee combat? I get immersion, but it's sort of nauseating with all the twitching and spinning of your perspective.
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>>176188689
>kick

i tried that and the fat fuck backstepped
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>>176188689
She only has 1 move that is semi difficult to parry.

Nobushi is really bad.
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Lawbringer needs to be buffed.
He needs to get a permanent knockdown on shove and not just in revenge.
All lights apply a stun
Hyper armour on all heavies.
Can cancel shove into a GB
Can cancel GB's
All heavies in the second part of a combo are unblockable.
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>Centurion doesn't have a shield
>People say it'll be better because he'll be able to fist people
>The gameplay trailer makes that out to be purely incidental to the gladius
It's just warden with a short sword and a coat of giantdad-colored paint
I want to be a fucking punch wizard goddammit
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>>176189143
>He needs to get a permanent knockdown on shove

you wot. That would make him ridiculously OP
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>>176187951
Knock him down you spacker, the roach was just incredibly shit and never teched gbs or tried to parry you when out of stamina and missed everyone which was also pointless.
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>>176189143
Haha, nice meme.
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There has got to be a better way to GB counter when you're being 4-2v1
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>>176165505
how are side dash attacks bullshit, except for maybe pk's bleed?
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>pop revenge
>get insta GB

I swear revenge is fucking useless unless you're a hero that can wipe out a zone right away
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>>176189510
>Punch wizard

he may not be that, but the trailer does show him using his fist a couple of times to punch/bash people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_NLp1Xl0oM

>He switches his sword hand at 0:31 kek
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>>176190727
Those are mostly for executions
It's like how everyone made a big deal about the warden halfswording, it doesn't fucking count if it's just for a CINEMATIC takedown that you have barely any control over
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>>176190932
warden needs half-swording moves fucking now
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>>176190962
only if shoulderbash gets removed
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>>176190997
i'd be fine with that if they made the half-swording worth it
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So what key reseller is best for this game? Any deals?
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>>176170498
>inna brawl
>I and one enemy are dead
>remaining enemy vs my teammate
>in a 1v1, pops revenge and uses it to win the fight
>gets upset when I gank him every round thereafter

people are dumb
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>>176189515
thats the meemee xdd
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There is this one cuck who leaves every fucking game named "WeThePizza."

He's shit and talks shit, and its mega cancer senpai.
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Alright. How many of you faggots actually still play this game and arent just shitposting.

Also how many of you are fucking god damn warden mains you fucking cunts
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Okay, so the throw stat, right? Does It influence the oni dash?
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>>176191557
>throw stat
>dashing

no
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>>176191480
Just buy the game and suffer with us.

Ps4 here, Nobu and Kensei. Learning the joys of Shugo
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>>176191480
More than you think. I main Warlord
Muh sword and board muthafucka
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>Manage to land a long dick on literally any class 1v1 from neutral with proper spacing and prediction
>They instantly disconnect every time

literally worst move in the game

have they no shame?
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>>176192150
Do you enjoy ruining other people's fun
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>>176191480
I do both.

What makes a class your main? Rep? My wardens rep 5 but my zerks rep 8 and my laws rep 10

Just roll bro
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>be lb
>hit by the first part in the warden vortex
>hammering dodge like a mad cunt
>get hit by the next shoulder before I even start the dodge animation

I thought it was escapable
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>>176192580
It is, unlock and roll away.
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>be level 3 lawbringer
>get matched with rep 4 PK
>oh shit Im gonna get destroyed
>somehow parry like a mad man
>wipe the floor with PK
>3-0 in my favor but they left during my last execution
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>>176192275
I was playing him before I knew he was meta, not going to stop anytime soon though. Half the playerbase deserves to have their fun ruined and I'm not about to stop playing someone so damn versatile to appease the rest.
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FUCKING GIVE ME THE CENTURION FUCKING NOW
JESUS CHRIST
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>>176191480
>tfw play nothing but warden since I got in the second test and all the tests after
>all other heroes have literally 0 playtime
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>>176192742
>Half the playerbase deserves to have their fun ruined

You're not wrong kiddo
>rep 15+ anyone
>peacekeepers spamming like it takes skill
>Wardens shoulder charging people into the shadow realm
>LB's completely shutting you down in group fights
>Valks using nothing but trips

I don't even play to win anymore, but to see how unfun I can make it for everyone else
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>>176192580
>hammering the dodge like a mad cunt
>not timing the dodge properly

Fucking idiots dude.
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>>176192795
I literally have wet dreams of waking up on the 16th and playing centurion and shinobi in the kappa build
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>>176193017
I wish I had your enthusiasm.
I reckon they are going to grossly under-powered and ignored for months.
To say nothing of the still dead playerbase
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>>176192923
Some of the moves have the tiniest most fucking arbitrary dodge windows. Valk's sweep has a stupidly tiny dodge window that shouldn't fucking exist. Near impossible to dodge.
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>Lose to a PK in a 1 v1
>He leaves
>Queue again
>Same PK
>Win against PK
>Suddenly wants a rematch
>>
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>>176193793
>Beat a rep 0 level 2 Warden
>He's talking mad shit and wants a rematch
>Look him up on the stat tracker
>His main is a rep FUCKING TWENTY PK
>Deny him the rematch
Thank god for the stat tracker
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Do conqs get a confirmed heavy off of a shield bash or a GB?
Just played a match with a dude who did nothing but bash and side heavy and it guaranteed each time
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>zerker does his heavy
>garrosh roars
hnnng
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>>176194587
Doesn't work when I'm conq, but it always does when I'm fighting one.
Wall bash > Heavy > Wallbash is pretty hard to get out of, though
Bash into light is confirmed, though.
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>pop revenge
>connection error

Like clockwork
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>>176178639
I'm surprised at the lacking of bitching around the slow guard change speed, but I only started visiting
/fhg/ last week.

Is this not the most fucking irritating mechanic in the entire game? Rather than nerfing any and all fast lights, like what the pk and valk can do, why not just standardize all the guard change speeds for all characters to at least the Warden's level? Not counting the assassins, they can keep their near instantaneous guard changes.

If I get a zone attack flicker as a LB, I have to hope I was already guarding in the direction of when the indicator first shows up. If I make the mistake of moving my guard to the initial indicator, it's too late to change back to the other direction before it hits. It's a mechanic that seems to serve no purpose other than to make Valk and PK seem more OP than they really are.
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How do i make my shugoki look like Okuma from the campaign? He was a badass and I want to pay homage
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Has ubi said anything about fixing the disconnect issues?
I'm gonna drop the game soon over this shit because it's fucking infuriating at this point.
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>>176195727
Literally who?
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>>176195904
Disgraceful
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>third time today game has hardlocked at the end of a match

like, the game just stops as soon as the game ends. More infuriating than a disconnection.
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>>176165178
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>>176196290
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>>176196290
Get used to crushing Roaches while you can. At least 90% of them will instantly switch to Shinobi when he comes out
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>>176196389
I'll just crush Shinobi's then.

As Centurion.
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>>176196389
Roach never should have been an Assassin. He should have been the Vanguard while Kensei was a heavy.
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So is mouse n kb better than controller in this game? Or is it one of those where it's just a preference?
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>>176195852
pls fucking respond.
I'm dropping every game now
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>>176196579
>So is mouse n kb better than controller
yes
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>>176196492
We'll see, I'll bet anything he's going to be top fucking tier. We already know he's going to be fucking king when it comes to ganking because of his ranged hit and ranged GB
>>176196504
Then what would Shug be?
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>>176196608
honestly, when that happens just take a breather. I know it is frustrating, but dont let something this little get the better of you.
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>>176196620
The DLC?
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>>176196608
They've said they're working on it. Not much more than that. If they don't fix it when season 2 drops it's probably gonna take a long while
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>>176196639
What's the point in taking a break if I'm still going to drop constantly if I come back later?
How the fuck is the netcode so terrible?
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>>176196767
I know it sucks man, but if you really enjoy the content of the game, I wouldn't just completely drop it over something like this. sometimes it is just a particular time of day where it happens more often, or at least in my experience
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>>176196290
Holy shit, that roach was bad. Literally only the last one was confirmed
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So what are you guys going to do with the new stats? I actually think I will switch off of Revenge stat ++ revenge gain + to attack/defence++ revenge stat + on everything
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>>176196895
gear stats dont mean shit if they dont change the turtle meta
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>>176197423
The turtle meta will never end because it requires several classes to be reworked from scratch
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>>176197457
Lawbringer has fucking nothing once they nerf parrying.
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>first time in a week I'm able to get an elim match

Australian games are hard to find in this game mode for some reason.
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How the FUCK HAS WARLORD NOT BEEN NERFED YET? UBISOFT NERFS FUCKING PEACE KEEPER AND WARDEN, BUT NOT THE MOST BROKEN FUCKING CLASS FROM DAY ONE.

HOLY SHIT I AM SO SALTY RIGHT NOW.

How the fuck do they watch Warlord unlock tech 50/50 gameplay and think that bull shit is balanced? He is so fucking broken, absolutely top tier 1v1 and group fights. Absolutely enraging.
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>>176197593
>Trying to complete the "Get 50 takedowns in Elim matches" as an Ausfag

Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>176197593
>>176197905
Playing the game is suffering flatout as an ausfag.
Every mode is either abandoned or full of cheesy fuckers either abusing OP character or running maxed out gear and insta revenging

Doesn't help that there's only like 50ish players either
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There is a Warlord main named Top10AnimeFight on PC, and oh my he is such cancer.

He does the unlock shield charge/guard break 50/50 like >>176197757 said, constantly, and there's no way to counter it. Either you can spend an entire match hard rolling out of the way waiting for his buddies to come, or he fucking kills you. There's no possible way to win unless you play Warlord and do the exact same thing. Why is this allowed? Why doesn't Ubisoft remove half of Warlord's kit?
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>>176198108
lol i fight that guy all the time, he hates my guts too haha
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>>176198056
>>176197905

just managed to get two games before the lobby disbanded. back to dominion I guess
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>>176198275
Do you win? Ever?
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>>176158153

bad raider players are bad players in general

hes one of the better characters in the game. probably 3rd or 4th best right now
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>>176198426
it wholly depends on whether my team dies immediately or not. but he is a complete shitter and gets mad whenever you call him out on it
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Call me retarded since I should know by now but do you have to have your guard in the direction they are attacking to parry? Or can you move the stick in that direction and parry? Is it dependant on block speed or independant? Hope it makes sense.
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>>176151589
leddit post was 2 hours older.
I checked cause I thought they stole it too.
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>>176198490
I just wish Ubisoft would fix the shit he's abusing, because it's totally unintended. Warlord already has an AMAZING kit without him getting an unintended, EXTREMELY POWERFUL 50/50 via unlock tech. Like, Warlord's 50/50 is way stronger than Warden's. That's the sad thing.
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>>176194587
>>176195243

lol shitters

heavy->heavy bash->heavy chain is super easy to escape

heavy bash confirms into heavy, but heavy does not confirm into heavy bash

heavy bash causes wallsplat but light bash does not

GB and wallsplat confirms into heavy

light bash confirms into light attack but thats all


to get any of conq's heavy attack confirms to work consistently you have to only press the heavy button once, if you mash heavy attack the game can read the input as you attempting a charge heavy and the time difference will not allow the hit to connect
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>>176196620
>Then what would Shug be?

deleted.

trash tier goofy meme character
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>>176198108

Why even do this as Warlord? I pretty much main Warlord and memery like this isn't even necessary to win. Unlike with Shugoki and his running meme, he needed it to be top tier.
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if they just removed the cheese heros then this game would be 10/10
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>>176198514
Pretty sure it's independent of guard switch speed.
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>>176198975
Which heroes are cheese in your opinion?
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>>176165302

Same here, Im acc rep 15 and I have no idea how anyone else does this.

Works on me as Shug/Warlord/Zerker/LB/Conq but I can never get the other guy to get grabbed.
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Rate, hate
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>>176199106
>>176198975

warlord, warden(arguably) and PK are fairly cheesey. anyone else with cheesey strats arent a result of their kits, its a result of glitches and exploits that are being fixed

PK is really only cheesey because she can dodge around the map faster than 10 other characters can sprint, even while exhausted. and her stamina in general is too high. she should lose more of it on blocked attacks. her attack speed is fine

the game is admirably well balanced imo considering how unique it is, the first game of its kind, and only out about 2 months. once they fix the exploits and hopefully remove warlord's ability to carry throw in any direction i'd be happy to leave it as is
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>>176199106
warden
warlord
orochi
pk
valk
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So once they implement deadzone settings, kb+m won't have any more advantages compared to gamepad, right?
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>>176199453
>deadzone on mouse

its like you want to kill off the pc community for good
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>>176199409
The scale pattern looks meh, the ornament is too mainstream, and otherwise you look too much like the standard kensei.
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>>176199409
Meh that head piece is so overused but I like the Rest, a generous 8/10 Kensei look.
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>>176197757
he HAS been nerfed

he's been nerfed a lot, but there's so much to his fucking kit that people will find more and more stuff to do on him
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>>176199409

looks nice and generic, really functional. except the tina turner hair ruining it
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>>176199453
Not really.
kbm has faster guard switch but I accidentally switched guards all the time until I decided to screw it and go back to controller. Glad they are adding deadzone options.
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>>176199692
>>176199697
To be fair, the ornament is mainstream because it's really good and unique. Changes the entire look of any helmet
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>>176199762

the ornament is utter trash. in a game full of gaudy, shittty ornaments, this one is a turd among turds
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>>176199535
No, I meant that they will let gamepad users edit deadzones. Been playing on my xbone controller since release, and when someone brought this issue up I realized that to change the stance i need to push the stick all the way to the side. Pretty sure it takes plenty of dem milliseconds to do.
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>>176199762
Not talking about the Ornament. Just the Helmet in general is overused.
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>>176199869
Just use big picture mode on steam. They allow you to edit your deadzones.
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>Finally reached Rep 8 as LB
>Unlock black armour
>Make the spikiest, edgiest looking LB I can
>Can't get skull paint or engravings forever

God fucking damn it. None of the ornaments are edgy, either.
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which bot best to get gud at parrying lights?
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>>176200167
whats cookin' good lookin
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>>176200167

the blood eagle is cool though

beat the knight story mode on normal and get the edgy wolf engraving
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>>176199836
>hating on based takeda shingen fashion
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>>176200046
>the helmet with the only good mempo is overused
kys
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>>176200410

>long flowing hair
>pic related

pick one
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>>176200046
The best Kensei helmets are the TEETH ones, especially the red one.
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>>176200541
>wanting to be a nip immortan joe cosplayer
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>>176200273
Shaft isn't edgy enough,

>>176200369
I guess wolves are kind of edgy.
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>>176200541
How can an opinion this wrong even exist
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>>176200369
>>176200674
>wolves
>engraving title is lion
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>>176177339
>>176177656
>Play a high teir
>Fucking flavor of the month using tryhard asshole
>Play low tier
>only faggots pick low teir

Consider this: Maybe you guys just don't like the game?

Howboutchu just fuck off and people will play what they want to play
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so what will happen to our current gear when the new stats are implemented? it looks like a totally different system

like, i'm not super fussed, i've got 26k steel and 100k+ salvage, but it'd be inconvenient if stats got shuffled poorly
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>>176201054
Looks like a wolf.
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>>176201054
>>176201583
It's a fucking wolf.
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>>176201054

what a mong
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>>176179217

People give him shit for bugs but hes great at the game anyway
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So I tried using steam big picture to configure deadzones, it detected the xbone controller, everything is supposed to work but the game just doesn't react to anything i do now, not even to keyboard and mouse. Can't move past the menu, anyone had this problem?
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>>176179217
Well that truly is fantastic he won a tournament he didnt even play in.
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>>176202551

Yes. It fucked it all up for me, had to reinstall my controller drivers.
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>>176179217
do you have a link to the tourney or information about it? thanks!
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>>176199453

You have all functions at your fingertips
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This actually looks pretty nice and edgy in-match. Not bad.
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>>176204282

top edge, i like it. glad you liked the wolf idea
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>>176204385
Thinking about removing the ornament, but he looks kinda bald without it now.
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>Praise le Sun
>Building up your your format on your GF always being present
Not a good idea, once the relationship goes to shit, so will your channel
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>>176204707
Might as well ride the wave for a while then, right?
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>>176204485
get chrome spikes
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>>176204964
Don't think it really suits the rest of the look, you know? Bit too bright and elaborate. Spiked Blade looks okay.
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>>176204707
I get the feeling he beats her, something just seems very off about how she reacts when he rages at the game
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>>176205081
its hard to tell but they are actually a tad darker than they appear, and the middle section that runs horizontal is actually going to be black iron as well
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>>176205183

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T198rMCG18
Like this?
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>>176205183

absolutely. she takes no pleasure in, or shows empathy for his anger. its not like she feels comfortable enough to have a giggle at his impotent rage at petty shit like a couple in a normal relationship would, nor does she get angry on his behalf.

she just very placidly says "dont get angry babe, its okay"

legion won that woman a savage beating that night imo
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>>176205197
Well, since I am sitting on 50k and don't spend any steel on anything, I decided to take a dive and buy it. Not as edgy as I would like, but it's suitably edgy. Thanks for the advice.
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What's the meme move that every class relies on, /fhg/?
>Warden
Shoulder bash vortex spam ad nauseum
>Lawbringer
AD MORTEM
>PK
Literally just light spam
>Conqueror
Shield Bash onto wall into Heavy into Shield bash ad nauseum
>Raider
?
>Berserker
The Feintmaster has appeared! Roll a 99 to banish the Feintmaster!
>Valkyrie
Side Light into Side Light into Sweep into Top Heavy ad nauseum
>Warlord
Headbutt into Light; alternatively guard break and touchdown run the enemy to the next cliff four countries over
>Kensai
Guard break into wall splat into unblockable top cancel into side light
>Shugoki
?
>Nobushi
Side Light into Kick into Top Heavy ad nauseum
>Orochi
Top Light and zone flicker spam ad nauseum
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>>176205759

what are you trying to say here? some of these moves are actually effective or even OP, and others are garbage that no one uses anymore
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>>176205759
Raider is EAT YOUR PIZZA feints and HURK top heavies. 90% of Raider is getting your enemy onto the floor so you can smack 'em with a top heavy or a side heavy into Zone.
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>>176205759
>raider

i dont ever see a strategy with raiders other than "attack like a retard and hope it works, then say "good guess" if they block it"
OR
stunning tap ad nauseum

>shugoki
remember that damage you did to me? you didn't do that to me

shugoki's is parry into wallsplat into demon's embrace, i guess
used to be charge vortex ad nauseum
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>>176205759
>Raider
Zone 50/50 and side heavy to top light stun spam
>Shugoki
Parry -> GB -> throw to wall and back break to get all their fucking health back FUCK shugoki
>>
>on vacation with family overseas
>40C hot
>crack of my ass is basically a waterfall
>wish i was at home playing for honor

Way to go ubisoft
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>>176205942
My post had three purposes, anon.

A. I wished to see if these were, indeed, the meme moves for the various characters since I see them constantly performed.

B. I wished for others to fill out their opinions of moves that people spam.

C. I wished to illustrate how having one or two at most real 'combos' for each character denotes a lack of depth in game.
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>>176205759
you forgot to mention warlord's unlock 50/50 and his heavy hyperarmor and all of his passive feats and his all block into headbutt and his fucking everything jesus christ who thought anything about this character was OK WHO DID THIS
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>>176206189
k
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>>176206206
So by meme you simply meant what do people use to cause most of their damage?

What a silly person you are
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>>176159009
t. Rep 30 Shug Knight
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>>176206189
I know this feel t b h

The only thing worse than playing fh, is not playing fh
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>LBs that feint more than berserkers
This shit is annoying as fuck. Do they have max stamina cost reduction or something? But they still have so much health and it does not seem like they have low attack stats either.
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who is ready for Centurion?
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>>176206904
Very ready, there will be 2 types of men in the new season, the real men you play Centurion, and the weeb scum who play Shinobi
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>>176206904
Me.
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>>176207027
¿Porque no los dos?
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>>176207204
Shinobi does the Naruto run and that is just too weeb for me to deal with
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>>176207313
ill probably try shinobi because if for honor has taught me anything, its that the fast spammy class is the most op
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I've been on a break for a while due to burnout waiting for 16th to hit, but caved in and decided to play. 2 Minutes in and computer crashes. Is god telling me to not play this anymore?

>>176206904
I hope he has 4-6 Gestures and 2 Extra Executions available to buy.
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How cute do you think Apollyon is under the helmet?
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Do the knights have plumes ornament yet ?
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>>176208008
cute enough for me to make her gobble my cock
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>>176208008
She's in her late 50's early 60's.
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>>176208176
older gals can still be cute
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>>176208008
Does she have the sexiest granny voice ever?
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>>176208008
Apollyon is probably a granny.
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>>176208320

Nope. That one goes to Flemeth.
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What the fuck is wrong with some of Raider's weapons? Who designed this shit?
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Is Nyabushi someone from here btw.? I met that guy a few times and he had lewdkeeper tier autism. Or maybe it's even him.
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>>176208746
Everything about raider's appearance is poorly designed shit. The weapons are no exception
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>>176208787
it's reddit
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>>176208846
Some of his low tier weapons are pretty okay. Once you get into heroic and mythic, shit gets AWFUL.
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>>176208132
That's all you do to her?
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>tfw For Honors campaign could have easily been 10/10 if Ubi wasnt so lazy
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>>176209092

I think you mean For Honor lore too

Appolyon should be removed
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>>176208846
The worst part about all of the Vikings design is that the customisation options are barely visible, unlike knights and samurai where its clear
it annoys me
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>>176209092
It funny to think, but for honor does have a lot of world building potential, be interesting if it were ever expanded upon
>>176209141
If the put a bit more philosophy into Appolyons ideals, she could have been really good
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>>176205759
Raider's is dying.
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>>176209235
They technically try to with the character videos
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>>176209092
>>176209141
>>176209235
>For Honor SP isn't an action RPG where you find loot and gear while fighting your way through massive swarms of enemies

I hope an action RPG or something is made using For Honor's engine.

>>176209153
Knights have the absolute best customisation options by such a country mile. Maybe it's because they have so much armour/equipment on compared to everyone else.
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>pk can still light spam

getting fucking sick of this fucking game mordhau fucking WHEN
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>>176208356
If she's a granny she can move real damn well for one.
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>>176209304
>he can't react to pks light spam here
>mordhou's attacks will supposedly be even faster
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>>176209290
A game like For Honor could have actually been a fresh take on the "Open world survival" genre thats been so popular since DayZ
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>>176209395
>Takes place right after the cataclysm
>World in ruins
>Have to travel around finding remnants of armour and weapons and other gear in the ruins/remains of the old world
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>>176209290
>>176209395
So is this game "the wasted potential" of the year? I mean I still love it the way it is, but it could've been sooooooooooo much better it's not even funny.
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>>176209697
just wait for For Honor 2
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MOTH
Post yer mains
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>>176209780
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>>176209760
>>176209697
Ubisoft will get bought out by Vivendi, so For Honor 2 ain't happening. At best we might get some games inspired by For Honor.

>>176209780
Posted it before, but I love how simple and smooth it looks.
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>>176209392
atleast you'll see the attack faggot
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>>176209890
>he can't see attacks in for honor
are you blind by any chance?
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>>176209938
>implying the animations are on time with attacks
LOL
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>>176209858
Don't really like when people use their emblems as their standard symbol, but your over all design is nice.
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>>176209697

Im the biggest fan of the fighting game this game got turned into but its something we gotta deal with
>>
are Wardens the new PKs?
are all retards flocking to Warden now?
as a Warden main this is sad to see

https://my.mixtape.moe/ertjmh.webm
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>>176174286
thats not what immortals looked like

they were persian dudes in gaudy silk pyjamas with spears that had metal fucking pomegranates on the end

not literal fucking ninjas

although i would love some gaudy pyjamas
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>>176209153
Warlord has decent customisation options. And zerk gets this really cool manica and the ice pick shaped axes. Other than that the whole faction is a wash
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>>176210098
Man, Warlord is such nonsense. I don't mind the bad Warden players appearing, because you can normally beat them by light spamming as they try to charge, or by baiting out parries with feinted top heavies.
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>>176209395

No it couldnt that sounds terrible actually
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>>176209304
>Mordhau comes out
>Getting real sick of all this helicoptering and 180 degree double hit overheads and 1 handed sword spammers being op
>I'm going back to FH

War of the roses had shit combat, mount and blade had shit combat, chivalry had shit combat, and mordhau will have shit combat too
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>>176210360
Im sorry you feel that way, hopefully we can have make up sex
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>>176191480
i have a rep 10 warden but i wouldn't call him my main

getting other characters up to rep 3 one by one, currently on kensei and enjoying it a lot
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>>176194237
brilliant
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>>176209290

I found FH's SP absolutely terrible because the combat system is based on mistakes. Bots don't make mistakes. Even if they lose, they just do it to let you win. Feels like shit.
Not every game lets you win, in fun SP games the AI gives their all and is actively trying to kill you with all they have and you win through counter strategies.

The most fun part was fighting off the wolves because it was something slightly different.
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>>176196848
>>176196767

yeah maybe see if you can play at a different time of day

or if youre on console just do vs bots w/ matchmaking off
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>>176197905
>vs AI

?
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>>176210698
For Honor's SP is tacked on as fuck and is basically strung together using MP assets. On realistic, it's this horrific exercise in frustration and learning how to cheese enemies out effectively. There's also not really a gameplay "hook" to keep you interested, especially in the Samurai campaign where they don't even let you play as Shug and Nobushi.
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>>176198484
in terms of raw tools, I'd have to disagree

on a practical level, with the flow of an actual game in mind I can see how you might be able to argue that

even so, I'd still place him in mid tier at best, just below kensei
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>>176210856
and even when the Nobushi seemed like the best character in the samurai campaign
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>>176199692
>>176199743
>>176199409

not sure who i agree with more

I feel like the scale pattern is let down by the colour choice alone, and that a morioka helm would be better for that ornament

still it feels like it has potential, especially with that dragon on the back
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>>176199447
>almost half the fucking cast

learn how to parry jesus
>>
>always dodge into the long dong
>always dodge into the nobushi kick

fuck Im retarded
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>>176210440
>muh shit combat
just like for honor
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_NLp1Xl0oM

What if For Honor had some magical bullshit in the lore where different eras of warriors are teleported to this world


It makes sense certain warrior cultures would team up agasint others
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>>176211484
>something like Drifters or Fate, but with whole nations instead of heroes
>>
>>176211484

You see they should expand on that aspect Knights teaming up with Romans

It says "once the pride of a glorious dynasty" so I dont know where they are going with it
>>
How do we save Conqueror from being further ruined by Reddit?
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>>176210883
90 damage exhaust punish
Can't be GB'd after dodge
Big damage rewards for GB and parry
Has a carry throw for ledging

The fact that he can't be GB'd after a dodge is enough to put him in high tier by itself desu considering the game's top tier has been dominated by characters whose offense is made of bash GB mix ups
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>>176211871

The Devs already said Conq is too weak for their tastes, specifically saying they planned to rework him eventually, and remove the dependence on one strategy.
>>
>>176211662
Drifters would make such a good fucking game
>>
>>176211968
Last time I heard them talk about Bonk they said "HE'S STILL TOO STRONG!?!?!?" after nerfing the poor cunt to oblivion. When did they say he's weak?
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>>176211968
So reddit have already succeeded then? What a shame

I will mourn my main when they change him
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>>176200927
>says red teeth helms are wrong opinion
>posts red teeth helm

?
>>
>>176185919

>Warlord has pk fast lights and raider slow heavies
>they look the same

fucks me up every time.
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>>176205228
>YOU GOT STABBED IN YO SHIT
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>>176212361
>he has a sound cue of constipated grunting for you to tell the difference
>except sometimes the heavy is silent anyway because ???

Inconsistent mechanics are cancer.
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Do the Kensei have anything to open turtle?
I have to feint like a madman and even then I almost never get any reaction, am I really stuck having to play Warden in order for these fucks to do ANYTHING?
>>
>tfw I never meet Turtlefags and literally no one plays as Conqueror.
I must have shit MMR which is weird for someone with nearly 90% win rate.
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>>176205315
>legion won that woman a savage beating that night imo

holy shit I laughed too hard
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>>176212642
Not really. Doing a dodge into a light into an unblockable you feint or follow through with, that's all.
>>
>>176212642

This is why I feel the Centurion will be like Kensei but actually has ways to open people up
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>>176206350
nah lv 6 shug

this is what i've taken from watching these fat bastards
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>>176208746
just do it
>>
Why do people main Kensei
Is it so you don't have to feel bad for losing?
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>>176211871
devs already have said in the last stream that they won't buff the shield bash, but will add or rework more moves, since he has only one strategy and they don't like it
>>
>>176211916
hmm i see where you're coming from

clearly i need to play more as raider, but this GB stuff never seems to get used by the raiders I fight, or at least not in any noticeable way

Its also all defensive/relying on feint game

I was thinking in terms of out-and-out offensive tools that would suit his almost assassin-like health to damage ratio
>>
So many rage quitters on my warlord today

loving every laugh
>>
>>176213253
As a high rep conq main I wish they'd just leave him alone desu. But of course they're gonna listen to shit tier, no skill, ignorant reddit fags, the kind that are shocked to hear conq can feint or cancel EVERY one of his attacks legitimately, and ruin conq based on their opinions
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>>176209864
>Rep8 and still haven't seen the damn Emmie helm.
Kill me.
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>>176213359
>this GB stuff never seems to get used by the raiders I fight, or at least not in any noticeable way

Well then you play shit raiders. It's the best thing about the character
>>
>Face a rep 5 Conqueror in Brawls as Raider
>Feint my unblockable, trying to bait out a parry attempt
>He never even tries
>Eventually just let loose with unblockables over and over
>He never once parries it
>Kill him easily every round
>All he does is try to shield bash

What the fuck?

>>176213529
Took me until Rep 6 to see a single Darosh.
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>>176213249
He is and make fights entertaining.
>Is it so you don't have to feel bad for losing?
What are you trying to say here?
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>>176213624
That you feel less bad for losing when your class if inherently inferior
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>>176213624
shitters think kensei is bad when really he is solidly mid-tier as long as the kensei player can wage a good mind game
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>>176213746
How mentally weak do you have to be for feeling bad about losing in a god damn video game
Man up you sissy
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>>176213359
He has like the 3rd or 4th highest hp in the game. About the same as conq.

Yes playing as a turtle withount even using bugs already makes him great due to his gbc dodge. And his zone is a mix up from neutral even if it does take all your stamina. So just add unlock tech and gb feints. And he's pretty much 4th place.
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>>176197423
The power curve will be much narrower in season 2, as opposed to the straight line of power we had in season 1. It won't be nearly as big a deal to have epic gear in season 2.
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>>176207313
Naruto run is a feat
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>>176213753
You can be 100 times better with any other character if you can do that though. Ken is shit anon.
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>>176193521
part of this is actually the delay of guard changing on a missed block. the input of the slow guard change clogs up the queue for further inputs and your dodge is "waiting" so you can't dodge in time before the sweep hits. this is most egregious on lawbringer but i believe this is a universal thing.

so what appears to be a "dodge window" is actually just a shitty bug. i believe there is indeed a dodge window for valk's shit but it is not as fucking tight as the "window" which is the guard change input shit i just detailed
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>>176213624
>makes fights entertaining
>literally just spams feints

right
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>>176213753
He's one of the worst characters in the game unless you abuse unlock tech and gb feints. You just play alot of shitters.
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>>176212030

Latest stream, someone asked if Conq was going to get a buff and they said they planned on one eventually.
>>
>fight someone
>lose to them 2-3
>rematch
>3-0 them
>rage quit last round

I don't understand

>roach calls my warlord bullshit
>throwing out flicker zones all over the place

play multiple characters really can make you unbiased as fuck
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>>176214485
People think Ken is shit because he doesn't have a kit that does all the work for you.
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>Get this game for my birthday
>Plodding through the story mode, getting to grips with it
>See high level online play

Oh god it's terrifying
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>Literally failed to parry ad mortem
I should not be playing today. Shit mood.
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>>176197423
>>176213957

Im more interested in the increased XP gain

Basically we all get a permanent 25% XP boost now but everyone is getting 2 weeks of elite status which is another 25% and then everyone gives each 10% extra XP since elite status

The grinding is gonna be fast as fuck since the only time leveling up got slow was when you got to level 15
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>>176214798
happy birthday
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>>176214798

dont worry 99% of players arent that good and you can style on them what ever way you like
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From Reddit:

>This may be a bit too much to ask..
>But what do you all think about getting a "preview emote/execution with Effect" option? so you can see how emotes and executions will look with your equipped Effect?
>Probably would require ubi to re-record all the current previews, but, idk. Just a thought. Maybe something to do for the launch of Season 3 when (knock on wood) everything is a lot more polished.

Eric Pope's response:
>The team is currently working on a revamp of how the preview system works. No timeline to share but thought you'd like to know!
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>>176214627
Warlord IS bullshit and I play every character too.
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>>176214846
Yeah, everyone paid attention when they said "permanent +25% to all XP" for season 2. Combined with the increased Steel gail from earlier in season 1, and people will be able to progress and customzie their characters much more quickly.
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>>176215001

Yes but can you really call bullshit when you are trying to use bullshit to win?

I was using what warlord was given by the devs, he's abusing flicker zones (which I do too when playing roach) I used no bugs or exploits
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>>176214846
Im very exited for this too. Im expecting to be getting over 1000 xp from a good dom match alone.
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>>176214642
The fact that there are characters that do have this makes kensei automatically shit because he is in the same game as them.
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>>176215112
Yes, warlord doesn't even need bugs. His kit is just so damn broken alone.
>>
If you quit a match does it count as a loss?
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>>176214865
Thanks anon!
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>>176215568
Yes
>>
>>176215568

yes
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>>176215112
>Opponent is flickering
>He's only gonna attack in one of two directions
>Guess right and get a parry
>Carry him ten billion miles away while he's glued to my shield and eject him into the sun of a distant solar system

So fair and balanced desu
>>
>>176215568
no
>>
Can't post a new thread because posting is fucked up right now.
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>fight kensei
>dude grab attack
>dude heavy attack lmao
>dude feint
>dude i'm not op lmao

>fight fat bastard
>dude charged r2s lmao
>dude infinite hyperarmor
>dude guardbreak into golfswing lmao

>fight roach
>dude dodge attacks lmao
>unzips katana

>fight nobushit
>dude you literally can't tell what side i'm attacking from lmao

Daily reminder the only balanced characters are Warden, Conq and LB.
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>>176215807

unfortunately I cant snipe ledges as good on keyboard I only have 8 directions and I cant arsed to unless they do it first

>>176215909

>being this awful

dude lmao
>>
YOUR THREAD IS BREAKING
>>176215942
>>176215942
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>>176215909
at least try with your bait
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>>176215909
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>pick fat boy in duels
>ppl are saltier than if i were a pk
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>>176214942
holy shit something actually useful came from reddit

although i'd kind of prefer them to be 'revamping' the unbalanced characters
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>>176214596
You have to "spam feints" with classes that actually require skill.

Tell me successful beserkeror kensei players don't require a good bit of skill. Bitch.
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