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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, May 7th:
351 – Jews in the Roman province of Syria Palaestina rebelled against the rule of Constantius Gallus, Caesar of the Eastern Roman Empire.
1685 – Great Turkish War: Ottoman forces prevailed over Venetian irregulars in the Battle on Vrtijeljka.
1763 – Pontiac of the Odawa Native American tribe led an attempt to seize Fort Detroit from the British, marking the start of Pontiac's War.
1895 – Alexander Stepanovich Popov presented his radio receiver, refined as a lightning detector, to the Russian Physical and Chemical Society.


>News
EU4 Mandate of Heaven is out. Buy it and support the devs!

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI3] - Flavormod
https://mega.nz/#F!GBByDSgS!9ia87JfAeOQgADjGq9y4hw

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!vIQnEZJK!5YCtpPMElgZJ3DDaVSaxJqEGym87SKZxfx-uKVwZmqM

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V10
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Africa Mod
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ

Old Thread >>176093270
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La Plata
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meiou and bloat is trash
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Croatian fascists have awoken.
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>>176153248
t.EU3pro
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>>Alternate Mod List and Useful Resources

>[V2] - Make Liquor Great Again by Liquorlad
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o42kc4rjg24rtiv/makeliquorgreatagain.rar?dl=0

>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.5
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - 7 Years Mod
http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA

>>[V2] - Vickymod v2.5
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - New Liangmod
http://www.mediafire.com/download/fm7kgwo9m83yqxu/New+Liang.rar

>> Updated Waggle Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB
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>D&T in EU3 era was universally lambasted on /gsg/
>MEIOU in EU3 era was universally lambasted on /gsg/
>M&T in EU4 era is praised and eagerly awaited on on /gsg/

really makes u think..................
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>>176153081
>nobody will EVER mod eu4 to remove all mana points and replace it with MTTH timers

it wouldn't fix the game since the trade nodes are still fucked up permanently as static, but it'd be a start
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>[V2] - Make Liquor Great Again by Liquorlad
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o42kc4rjg24rtiv/makeliquorgreatagain.rar?dl=0

fuck off steamcordplaza
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>>176153081

Greenlander fascists have hibernated
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Going to prepare an invasion in the British Isles.
Mercia or Hwicce?
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>>176153379
M&T is actually good though
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>>176153416
But that addon is a must-have, otherwise liquor factories tank and go bust in 1850.
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>>176153538

it isn't
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Progress has slowed dramatically since The Ruskies decided they didn't like me taking Kiev
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>>176153514
Whichever one's land is worth more dosh.
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>>176153379
False, MEIOU has always been played here.
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>>176153584

as it should be
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Meiou? Moar like Sailor Pluto amirite?
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>>176153379
EUIV is so shit that even a robmod would make it better
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>>176153609
if you get over 80 trust with them they won't care
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>>176153765
Don't kid yourself, it was always bloated shit that was on par with deaf in texas
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>>176153859
I was at 87 nigga. They still cared a lot.
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>>176153910
>le bloat

Mmmh no,its called being complex sweetheart
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>>176154062
that's weird then

they did add the modifier "wants your vassals provinces" recently so maybe trust doesn't affect that one
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>>176154161
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>>176154161
>sweetheart
This isn't reddit where you can take the moral highground by being patronizing. EU4 can't have a good mod since the game is conceptually flawed at a base level and however much you attempt to work with it, you're still working within its constraints
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20th for MLP
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I avoided the civil war
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>>176154161
>Mmmh no
>I mmmhmmm may hmmmhmmm have hmmmhmmm a hmhmhmmm use hmmhmhm for you hm
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>>176154275
I would let her have half jewish kids with me
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>>176154532
you mean 3/4ths jewish
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>>176153185
thanks
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For those who missed it

KR 0.4 mega link: https://mega.nz/#!e8th1a4J!_2WOjCvv1I6agZ39SGPuFaN-9js2rso_RoQgGpKbapk
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY INTERNET SHIT OUTS FOR 30 SECONDS AND I LOOSE THE SERVER


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Rip my Italy dream
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>>176154268
It seems to not. Good ole paradox. Really thinking mechanics through. What was the point of this? Not being able to have buffer states anymore? Was that such a problem? Were there exploits?
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>>176154756
So how's HOI4 Kaiserreich shaping up? Did they already include most of the content that was in Darkest Hour's KR?
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>>176155164
I guess it was to stop enemies from being mad at you directly for having their cores if you gave them to a vassal

My usual Castile opener of taking England's gascon provinces for example France tolerated if I released Gascony as opposed to directly owning them.
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>>176155193
Its pretty good
a lot still to go but I find that its more coherent I guess?
It seems less buggy then

The new USA focus tree is pretty nice, same with the CSA and AUS focus trees,
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Rightful borders of Metropolitan France.
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>>176155486
read a fanfic where you develop a taste
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>>176155515
Let's add millions of additional sandniggers to France, what could possibly go wrong?
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which one inb4 uninstall.exe
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>>176155670

uninstall.exe
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>>176155762
xD
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>>176155670
reform cavalry
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>>176155670
alt f4
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>>176155607
Macron is that you?
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>>176155670
Saxon King
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>>176155935
nigger
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>>176155670
Lithuanian king with a constitution
Bring back Liberty to the Iron Continent
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I got the latest mandate of heaven DLC off that sketchy Russian website and tried to add them to my game (which I had also patched fine from this same website), but for some reason, they are not showing up in the launcher? The readme says nothing to do with having to use an activator. Every other DLC works fine
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12918314
http://www.strawpoll.me/12918314
http://www.strawpoll.me/12918314
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>176156171
fuck me chaps you are not making it any easier
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Austria here, I got DCed right when I paused after war declaration on feb 25

pls dont let ai fuck up everything
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>>176156508
GR's computer died
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>>176156171
Ok going with Commonwealth restoration thanks me chaps
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>>176156508
Sardinia here, quick rundown of what happened after I shitted out?
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>>176156675
shit got real
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I Fucking hate Sweden
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>>176156728
boko no fuck up Sardina pls, I was literally just about to leave his sphere before my internet died
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>>176156547
k it's up my plug fell out
V2 3.04 PGSK HPM
73.20.197.88
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Thoughts?
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holy shit that placement
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>>176156969
Note: A majority of the Greek pops in Constantinople came from Greek pops in the Russian and Ottoman Empires.
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>>176156969
>killing Turks
>sending the rest to a fate worse than death: living among other Turks in a socialist shithole
utterly based
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>>176156969
50% is too much, and you should probably need mass politics to do it (like the other turk exchange event)
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>>176156969
when I did a megali greece the turks genocided greek pops via event before the last war to retake cores in hpm

had no option to return the favor and dropped the save after
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I just wanted to be a Plantagenent
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>>176157407
But this feels gross
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>>176157607
delete this
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>>176157607
>play meme start in vanilla
>get memed
whoa................................... kinda made me thinkk
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>>176157759
>>176157885
Now I'm going to play world police and make the world better
I already handed off Aquitaine and Sweden when I won them in the Crusades
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>>176157607

Here now you don't need to feel groß anymore
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>>176157180
>50% is too much
You can never kill enough Turks
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>>176157986
>Now I'm going to play world police and make the world better
You're playing ck2 not v2, pretending to be world police in ck2 is even more retarded than in eu4

just shift delete the save and move on
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>176158010
don't post this dogshit ever again
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it's finally happening
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any french anons ITT?
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>>176156916
rehosting its up
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>>176158220

Have I ever told you the story of Samrat Chakravartin Civakkoluntan II "The Wise"?
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>>176154389
He has a kid who watches it
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>>176158736
So is there any way to get the event to fire that allows any christian to be the HRE?

I'm in the HRE as Orthodox and I'd like to stay orthodox
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Can you reform a merchant republic into a kingdom?
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>>176159510
As long as you are Holy, Roman, and an Empire what do you need the HRE for?
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>>176159454
>he stops his sick dying daughter from watching cartoons so he can work on his autistic mod
another report to the child services
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>>176159586
Put your successor as a landed baron/count/etc. I'm not sure if you still have to with the Doge title, but now you'll be fuedal forever.
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>>176156969
Mass genocide shouldn't cost more than a couple points of infamy during that time period. Especially not if greeks are retaking their land.
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>>176159586
If you mean CK2 you can press your claim for (Venice) or Independence War to become feudal. You can also randomly bug out sometimes and become feudal.
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>>176159510
you need the treaty of westphalia event, which fires if no one is able to win the religious war in time
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Reminder that Wilhelm II and Germany were the main instigators of WWI.
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>>176159947
>jews dindu nuffin
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>>176156969
MAKE GREECE GREAT AGAIN
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>>176159947
Reminder that Austria-Hungary is the main reason the Central Powers lost WWI.
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Rate my Europe
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>>176160016
>>176159947
Reminder that the black hand was literally a Serbian-state-funded terrorist organization and holds the entirety of the responsibility for starting WWI
Germany had literally nothing to do with starting WWI
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>>176160098
Immayyad/10
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>>176159917
the problem is that the protestants rarely declare if they can't win, so if they never declare it just defaults to catholic
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>>176160098
Why does Hungary always seem to be the leading cause of border gore in CK2?
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>>176160098

>923
>Mudslimes still present

apply yourself
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>>176160098
stopped loading there
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>>176160291
>Getting raided
>Not being the raider
And that's why Catholics are losing to the Hungarians
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>>176160112
Reminder that Serbia aggred with 9 out of the 10 points of the austrian ultimatum, and found the last point negotiable, despite the austrian themselves finding said ultimatum unacceptable and only going for it because of german pressure.
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>>176160810

Catholic Hungarians can raid desu
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Institutions might top off estates and favors for the single most retarded feature introduced to EUIV.
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>>176161309

x1 respectfully disagree

I'm an Europa Universallis 4 hardcore player and I can talk for the rest of the community: we love our DLCs and institutions
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>>176161485
x1 Helpful
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>>176160817
Maybe the Serbian government should have thought twice about funding terrorists if they didn't want war
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>>176159790
He has like two or more monitors
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so what's damian plan on modding blobby 4 while his daughter dies? does he hope to get hired by parameme or something?
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>>176161309
>single most retarded feature
That's still mana. All the problems in a EU4 come from it's faulty fundamentals.
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Institutions don't even stop AI from keeping up in research, it seems to just abandon development of the provinces to keep it and ideas maxed out while sitting in wasteland.

We wuz hyper advanced desert wizards
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>>176162542
*flies above your 15th century cavalry charge with pyramid spaceship*
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>>176162542
I've been playing a Pasai > Malaya game and it's my first time with institutions and the new china DLC, now every nignog backwater seems to be able to keep up with European tech levels, so you see France or Spain at 20/20/20 and look at Kongo and they're about the same. Even natives keep up easily now.
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Is there a mod in vicky 2 that changes every itteration of beer, liquor, alcool, etc. to 'Bone Hurting Juice' yet?
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The weak democracies deny Iberia her rightful entry into Africa despite colonizing the whole world themselves, unfortunately there is no Hitler to align with in retaliation
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Holy FUCK being the HREmperor in EU4 is stressful, when do the CtAs stop, I've been out of manpower for five wars straight now but the Ottomans keep declaring wars so I don't get a recovery truce period

(won all five because Prussia anyway)
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>it was a "France allows itself to be cucked in 30 years by Germany" MP episode
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>>176164074

are you talking about real life?
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>>176164120
yes
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someone please upload the save.
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>>176164074
DELET
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>>176163420
post pops
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>>176164074
>It's a one war with Prussia and Austria's fucked beyond believe episode

He should release and play as Hungary.

T. Sardinia
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YES goy, go die for your fat anglo overlord
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>>176164074
>France allows itself to become a republic instead of staying a Bourbon monarchy
>Doesn't research any relevant military tech
>Almost loses to an enemy who is fighting on three different fronts

Truly the worst country

t. Spain
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>>176164074
>tfw checksum is still WLUM despite multiple restarts and reinstallings of HPM
>tfw vanilla checksum is WNVU but can't get to PSGK no matter what I do
You guys are using the HPM 3.6.1 in the OP, right? On HoD 3.04?

Please tell me your secrets
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>>176164074
He almost lost versus someone playing on 3-fronts

t. Russia
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The fuck is the AI doing this game
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>>176164665
>almost loses
nah, they had more troops

but when they won the big battle instead of pressing them and making sure that germany wont be a problem till 1880 or whenever the general event hits he chose to cuck me

can you please please please upload the save, i crashed, i want to run war analyzer on that save
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post screenshots from the liqqy MP
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>>176164278
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>>176164931
Not gonna lie I'm erect
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>>176164765
Are you using a steam copy? I think those only give WLUM. You might need a pedo copy
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>>176164931
>3% intelectuals
>2.7% bureaucrats
other than that i like it
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>>176164931
i like that you're embracing the power of diversity~
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>>176164881
here
https://www.mediafire.com/?girgyb912y8c255
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>>176164996
yes I'm using a steam copy, but I launch it from the .exe in the game folder rather than from the steam launcher

Will I seriously have to pirate a game I already own just to play with you
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>>176153185
w&b
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>>176165206
No. Delete V2, Delete Paradox Interactive/Victoria 2

then download V2, then 3.04, then HPM. then restart the game once after starting it for the first time

it should be PGSK then
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>>176165163
Black, yellow, white, it doesn't matter so long as they work in my factories and are catholic fascists in my majority white society
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>>176165491

>spaniards
>white

nice meme
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Is it possible to convert the culture of another kingdom's children to spread your superior way life in ck2?
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>>176165206
I'm using HPM 3.6.1, on HOD beta 3.04

It's probably the fact you are launching it through the .exe I launch it from Steam, and have had no problems.

>>176164665
>Doesn't research any relevant military tech
Really? Ayyyyyy
Switching to Republic is disgusting, desu. You and me might have to fix that

>>176164771
>Almost lost
?
They might have lost a few battles, but once it became 3 fronts Prussia was going to lose at least one of those wars. WE is a real bitch, and he couldn't keep it down.
Tbh at worst I expected France to win their war and for Prussia to take what it wants from Austria.
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>>176161309
>waaaah why did they make my braindead game slightly more complex, I want it to play itself
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>>176165741

Capture their kids, heritage focus
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>>176154417
I had a pretty bug filled run where I went military junta, declared martial law to fight the protests, the game said I won the civil war despite it not happening yet, had an event to reintegrate the union states, then the syndicalists popped up and declared war, then I got the event to reintegrate the syndicalist states but the syndicalists still existed, then the pacific states popped up but I decided to form an alliance instead of declare war, then an event fired where canada told me to join their faction so I did, then an event fired to reintegrate the pacific states and I actually got that territory but their army still existed. I assume they might have had control of hawaii or something but I didn't bother looking
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>>176165423
Not him but why does my checksum change everytime I retire from the game? Everytime I have to start vanilla and then HPM to get the right checksum.
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Was MP even advertised in the thread?
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>>176164881
who was prussia and how good was he?
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>>176166265
yes we will continue tomorrow 6pm est
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here you go
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>>176166671
this is actually pretty fucking epic
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>>176166671
>sweden
>germany
>france

yurop has been fucked ever since
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>>176166290
GR
I can't speak for how well he fought, (Although he was sitting at 100 WE for a good chunk of time during he war) but as an observer, diplomatically he got outplayed.

He declared on Austria for Spheres and literally a day later France declared for Wallonia, which he took from a GrossNetherlands after everyone told him to stop being a blobbing faggot.

For some reason he thought his spheres in Sicily and Sardinia would help him in his fight, and the Sardinia player told him to fuck off. He did have trouble shuffling armies between fronts; Sweden landed and took Memel, France took Wallonia and pushed into the Rhineland. I did see two huge ass fights against France; the first easily 300k each, Prussia winning that easily. That was early in the war, a few months later, after sitting at 100 WE for a while, another bug fight in the Rhineland say a easy French win.

tldr; Military wise it's Prussia, hard to do bad in. Diplomacy wise outplayed, even tried to get Russia in on the fight once he was loosing against France and Austria. Props to him for getting France to peace out for Wallonia so he could take Austria to the cleaners tho
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>>176166671
>Battle of Brno
heh
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>>176166671
How was Prussia so OP?
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>>176166912
what happened with austria while prussia was fighting france
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>>176166671
unironically pretty gud anon.

Sardinia did provide monetary support to Austria tho
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>>176167023
France refused to push into Prussia
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>>176166671
>forgot to list Commanders & Leaders
bad meme
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>dutch buddhist is taking stroll to himalayas

middle francia is jewish :^)
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>>176166671
this
>>176167186
Commanders are like 40% of the meme
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>>176167186
>just listing Von Moltke 50 times
I can see why he ignored it
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>>176166912
okay but how good was he?
all I got from this was that the prussian military was strong
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>>176167376
diplomacy doesn't matter when you have jesus on your side
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Thanks pricks, now I have to have a 100K stack showdown on the last piece of desert because I gave Netherlands everything only for them to betray me
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do i let proto prussia happen?
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>>176167040
I couldn't see, but it seemed like a back and forth between Prussia and Austria and their spheres, mainly on the Bohemian border. My guess is at the start Prussia had initial success, then pulled their forces west to deal with France, letting Austria to regroup and push back the German minors along with their allies. They did push into Silesia before Prussia came back after the first big battle, and pushed them back into Bohemia. Austria pushed back again when Prussia tried to stop France a second time, and after Prussia and France reached peace. Prussia started shoving their shit in and after a few weeks, stack wiped their army.

They gave up as >>176166671 says.

Reminder that this is all from a observer point of view.

But who?
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>playing as Assyria in HPM
How the fuck do I do this?
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>>176167061
Refused, or couldn't?
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>>176167469
>dragoon
As if any more proof were needed MP faggots were niggers.
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>>176167615
>>176167061
about half my army was at half strength and it seemed to risky to push forward. Even though he had 100 WE he still had Von Moltke and probably could've pulled off a win. Austria was beyond hope by that point so I made peace.
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>>176167376
As well someone playing Prussia in Vicky 2 can be.

He had the troop advantage over Austria, as well as the tech advantage. France was more even field, and he did kick their ass early on (>dice rolls)

However, he let too much of his territory get occupied, and that made his WE shoot up. In HPM, WE at high levels kills you, and that lost him his war against France.

7/10, learn to keep WE down PLS
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>>176167813
>austria was beyond hope

no I wasn't, I even managed to pull of a won battle near the end but I gave up after you peaced out without even informing me about it
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>>176167759
Dragoons are better than Hussars early game
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>>176167759
dragoons > hussars before mid-game tech
are you stupid?
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>>176167860
how good was france/austria?
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>>176167891
>Gave up after France peaced out
That isn't true at all, me and S-P had to beg you to accept a peace deal, and even then you only peaced out after you were stack wiped to 1 brigade.
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>>176168286
That's what I meant about giving up, "let's have an epic battle which I'll surely lose right"

I honestly thought that Prussia will rape me and occupy for a few years anyway so I had nothing to lose
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>>176168403
Nah, I don't occupy for gamey reasons. Go in for the war goals and get out, as they say.
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task: find Prussia in top10 GDP nations
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>>176167759
H-hey, I use Hussars anon
>>176167891
This. France dropped the fucking ball, having Prussia by the balls and letting Austria get fucked over.

I think it was the Sardinia player who suggested it, but someone suggested a Prussian-Austrian WP, France taking Wallonia, and Prussia letting Austria going through with their SGF plans. While Austria was in a questionable position, France could have been at Berlin within a month. Prussia's WE was maxed out, and it was only because France peace out that he was able to fuck over Austria.

>>176168115
From what I gathered about Austria, they tried their best as an Austria fighting a human Prussia and their spheres in the 1850s. They were loosing 1v1, but were able to pull off some upsets like that one battle near the end.

6/10 you tried your best.

France kept a front, got their shit pushed in early but quickly occupied their wargoal and forced up that WE. Am triggered that they had 300k troops on the front with no enemies in sight and didn't push into the Rhineland. An interesting note tho, I don't recall any german minors fighting them; I think they focused Austria and their spheres.

7/10 Good job with Prussia's WE but holy shit pls push fo the love of god.
Include peace and it drops to 5/10, gj fucking Austria over.
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Islamic gommunism? :DDDDD
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>>176168580
>Egypt
Russia how did you get both the Turk and Egypt in your sphere?

Will you still give me the Holy land if I form Italy?
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>>176147626
>>176148150
>>176148587
>>176150453
ASMR is quite simply the greatest single example of the triumph of the free market in action and is the reason I'm an Anarcho-Capitalist. Only the prettiest, and most importantly whitest women make popular ASMR. There are hundreds off ugly sheboons who make videos but they never get more than a hundred views, at absolute most. They eventually get sick of trying and stop, reinforcing the monopoly of the qt women and passing the benefits on to the consumer.

>>176168473
How do wars even work in MP games. At what point do people peace out? Day one or literally never? Seems if a player knew he couldn't win there'd be no point even fighting it.
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>Prussia forgot to take Schleswig
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>>176168580
>I'm 6th despite being one of the shittiest GPs with an average literacy of 19% and crippling debt
So this is the power of... neutrality
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>>176168745
usually people peace out when they know they lose because if they dont chances are more war goals will be added
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Feels good baby, I'm like second Russia right now with my moorish hordes
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>>176168580
To be fair, I'm at like 40+% War Exhaustion, so this list is NOT accurate
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>>176168690
>Not conquering the Horn of Africa
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>>176168919
>that based Libya
Absolutely ebin. When will HPM add a Jamahiriya government?
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>>176168690
>no holy land
Also what was your strategy?
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>>176169009
I'm waiting for the inevitable Great War so I can take as much as possible.
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>>176168745
It depends, if you have no chance usually you'll peace out immediately. If you actually can fight the war the players will peace out once it's clear one side will lose. There's also a third option that gamey faggots use that involves only placing out once literally every single territory is occupied, which usually results in their country being unusable for the game, it's generally frowned upon.
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>>176168690
>roman republic
utterly based
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>>176168612
this doesn't make much sense.
france is a 7/10
prussia is a 7/10
austria is a 6/10

so prussia should have gotten fucking slaughtered
whats going on?
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>>176169247
Prussia has Von Moltke, so unless the Austrian and French players are very good they can win or at least avoid total defeat if in good hands.
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>You can reform A-H in HoI4 now

We kaiserreich now
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>>176169359
so another prussian shitter who only did ok with a broken ass general

why do u people let prussian in mp?
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>>176168720
I sphered them both before the crisis, then declared neutrality so I didn't join any war, and sphered ottomemes back up.

and yes but ONLY if you form italy[/spoler]
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>>176169232
>republic
Fuck off, Pompey
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>>176169649
You haven't lived until you get a prussiapro angry
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>>176168690
>>176169232
>democracy
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After helping the Netherlands eliminate the non country of Belgium I will see their rightful lands in Wallonia returned to them.

t. The Holy Empire of Britannia

also the HK won pretty neat
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>>176169247
see >>176167469

>Number ratings from an observer with limited information should be used to determine who should have won.

France 7/10 for their front, quick occupation, and breaking Prussia's back after their second big fight. 5/10 for letting Austria get raped in the peace tho.
Prussia 7/10 good swarm tactics, good shifting between the fonts, and bonus points for stack wipes, always good. Did get outplayed with them getting too much occupied and WE getting to 100
Austria 6/10, held for as long as they did as Austria and won some good ones because of muh dice rolls. Sham France dropped them like a rock tho

>>176169651
Nice

Wait till fascist and watch it turn Italian and Catholic
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>>176169791
What would a 10/10 Prussia and a 10/10 Austria be in your eyes?
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Can someone post a map of rubber and oil in hpm
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Why don't paradox games get modding tools if they want modders do all the work anyway?

A simple nation creator tool that allows you to pick provinces on a map and generate cores for them would go a long way.
Entire nation creation process is a menial busywork, surely Paradox doesn't do this shit manually.
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>>176170304
Because autists like gigau are going to do it either way for them anyway
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>Austria inflicted 600k losses on Prussia
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napoleon's legacy MP when???
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>>176170457
>while France, having 3 times the army of Austria, managed only a little over half of that

I'm butthurt a bit, but at least I can still get back into this game
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>>176170615
To be fair, I had to switch between him and you, meaning that after I had fucked you the first time. The second time my army came around they were below half strength. A large part of the reason you killed so many prussians was because of France.
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WE NEED TO GO GROBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

i mean how i should expand now
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>>176154756
to get this to work you have to fuck around with the .mod file and paste the content in Users\*username*\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Hearts of Iron IV\workshop\content\281990\809903394
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>>176170891
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>>176167254
>middle francia is jewish
You too? This just happened earlier today
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>>176170615
>France
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>>176169982
In that scenario? (Keep in mind these niggers were pausing the game ever week to decide orders)

Prussia wrecks Austria in the opening push, occupying Saxony and Bohemia within a month or two. After France's declaration of war, and with Sardinia telling him to fuck off, shifting his army west to take on France. Along the way he should have occupied enough to force out the minors on Austria's side; would have reduced Austria's strength and freed up his spheres to push Austria. After getting to the west front, fuck up France like he did with the first battle, free occupied territory, and push into France. After the eventual second battle, assuming he won, decide how much he leaves on the French front and send the remainder to Austria. Had he kept his lands unoccupied, and kept some of France's and Austria's occupied (France wasn't occupied to my knowledge), he would have been able to win.

Austria's a similar story. It would have required more ordination with France, but getting parts of Prussia occupied to drive up WE asap is goal #1. Knocking out the German minors would have been #2, and while I do not know how much Two Sicily contributed to the Prussian cause, getting them to a WP would have helped.

T. Neutral
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>>176171823
prussia had 100 we for like half the war
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>Won't let me start independence faction
>Even if I've resigned from my liege's council

Halp I stupid what do?
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is there any point in trying to build factories related to the rgos produces in the state if you are playing in a country like brazil? half of it is rubber and coffee
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I'm making africa great again
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>>176171989
its written right there lad, liege's council, which you are part of, is loyal so you cannot start factions. wait till succession or tyrany of some sort.
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>>176172218
>Again

Africa has never been great.
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>>176172239
Even if I resign or the council is discontent, all I get is something like "There are no valid factions to create".
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>>176170032
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>>176172239
>>176172383
>>176171989
Yep right here. Just assassinated the liege and the council is discontent, now it says this. Is there some reason it wouldn't let me form an independence faction?
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>>176172281
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>>176169770
>Warring France
You better not be allied to some Germans when you do that anon
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Do I replace artillery or infantry with armor in vic2?
I know planes replace cavalry
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>>176172591
>NOT warring France after what he did to me

t. Autistria
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>>176172281
>>176172218
there is only one way to make africa great
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>>176172585
>>176172239
Also I'm playing HIP, if that means anything.
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HOI4 - Kaiserreich mod: idiot proof version
https://mega.nz/#!YllnRaab!J3SS0QpoEDMTv7Pv8piIsDVVbPC0wFkfGMEc2UXmZbw
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>>176172591
why?
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>>176172736
So you genuinely believe Africa was better in 1800 than 1900?
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>>176172736

FUGGIN EPIC :DD
kek <- this one
kek
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>>176172674
Nah, fuck France, but do you trust the Eternal Anglo to not ally Prussia for that war? Watch Prussia take Alsace Lorraine.

>>176172914
Cause fuck Prussia, that's why

T. Neutral
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>>176172591
Does the frog fear what he hath unleashed on Europe?
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>Port EU4 to Vic
>Everyone is still behaving like EU4 countries
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>>176173491
What did the frog unleash on europe?
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>>176173473
I don't need the help of prussia to tear down the feeble french.

Besides the glorious Anglo-Russian Alliance stands strong
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>>176173615
Germany
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>>176173502
>noculture
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>>176173502
>noculture
you fucked up
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>>176173872
>population: 1
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>>176174293
Nice converter
>>
What do you guys use your nat focuses on after you've maxed out soldiers/intellectuals/capitalists/bureaucrats in all available provinces?

Just more craftsmen?
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>>176174451
Encouraging in the colonies.

there's that focus for a good 200% immigration push
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>>176174451
yes, especially for assimilation
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>>176172763
It's a bug. Hotfix (Cacao3) was release a couple days ago.
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>>176174537

Does that shit even do anything? I've encouraged immigration to a little 500 pop Antilles Island i have as Belgium and have never gotten a single person there.

>>176174567

>assimilation

Elaborate.
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>>176165423
>>176165838
>tfw it's still fucking WLUM after trying these things
I've tried everything and still, I can't get the correct checksum. Does anyone have any more ideas or should I just give up?

Alternatively, is there anyone else stuck with WLUM who wants to play HPM multiplayer with me?
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>>176174724
I remember I had to install all the patches in the right order. Not sure how you did it, but i remember I had the same problem as you and order did it.
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>>176174709
it works if your emmigration push is high, aka high militancy counciousness lack of needs fullfilment etc.

In that case instead of chosing another province, they prioritize this one
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>>176174406
Everything is a underpopulated because of development/manpower convert to pops poorlyand EU nations generally ignore development.

Except China which has 95 million 95 literacy people and I had to manually gimp them.

Actually extremely high literacy is standard because converter has literacy attached to a lot of ideas and every nation is guaranteed to have 50-60% as a bare minimum.
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This is going pretty well.
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>>176174946

Honestly that just looks retarded and not even fun. Why even bother at that point with shit like Incas as a great power?
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>>176174724
>>176174843
Also, forgot I have zipped viccy with HPM and PGSK, I can upload it for you lad

Also, ELECTIONS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
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>>176174709
>Elaborate.
when promoting to craftsmen(or anything, really, it can also be used with soldiers, for example) the POP will join the existing POP group, so if you only have an accepted group of german craftsmen, polish farmers will become german (craftsmen)
>conquer state
>shutdown all factories
>wait for non-accepted cultures to demote/go away
>shutdown some of your own factories
>wait until your craftsmen go to the conquered state
>re-open factories in the aforementioned state
>the pops now assimilate to the craftsmen culture
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>>176175068
>Also, forgot I have zipped viccy with HPM and PGSK, I can upload it for you lad
Yes please, that would be nice anon
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>>176175142
about 20 minutes, ill post after its uploaded
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>>176175032
>Honestly that just looks retarded
What is every EU4 conversion ever?
That game is incapable of providing even remotely realistic results by itself and its even worse since it's CK2 conversion.
I'm gonna run it to the end to see how believable things will actually get.


GPs are going to change though, Inca is carried by prestige, there's a bunch of asian countries stronger than it.
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>>176175270
thank you
>>
imagine getting to play mp
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How is this even possible? Like wouldn't the horses absolutely destroy her vagina? Also why are horses even allowed to be landed?
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>>176175013
What even are you? Commie China?
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>>176173872
>>176174282
>white people
>culture
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>>176175520
>Engelond
>Aztecs
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>176175604
:(
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7 Karlings dead and I've finally conquered all their shit, one more and I can split the megablob that was France/Germany/Middle Francia/Aquitaine into 4 so I don't have an ubervassal I need to worry about.
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>>176175571
nah, quite the opposite.
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>>176175779
HITLER china?
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>>176175779
Fucking God awful flag, matey.
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>>176164074
>losing to the worst player in the history of V2 MP
Fucking lmao
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There are people in this thread, RIGHT NOW, that play with Sunset Invasion disabled
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>>176176029
GR is good though
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>>176175857
More like theocratic, also it has a ton of cool events since it's the cannon winner of the Asia war in KR, but the AI is too retarded to ever win as them.
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>>176176386
t.GR
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>>176176397
Make it less theocratic and more National Socialist pls.
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>>176176518
this picture is photoshopped i can see the pixels
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>>176176518
this was ages ago
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>1937 American Civil War
>recapturing the Great Lake Commies and Dixie Nazi's took over a year
>Commiefornia and Hawaii gave the US the finger and seceded
>Wake got snatched by the Nips, Guantanamo by the Cubans while the backstabbing Canadians took all of New England
>You keep all your cores for that perfect revenge

Kaiserreich's event system is fantastic compared to the base game. Why the hell are modders putting more time and effort into this than Paradox themselves?
>>
What's stopping me from just permanantly occupying a country in Vic2?
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Champa and Malaya doing what I'm afraid to do with double their combined development

I feel ashamed
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>>176177159
rebels will spring up and become annoying
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>>176177159
the feeling of knowing you'll always be a cheater
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>>176175270
It's been half an hour anon, is it uploaded yet?
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>>176177148
Because you are still going to play GoY4 like a good goy you are
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>>176177307
he did it the absolute madman
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>>176177632
sent ;^)
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>>176176578
Is national populist enough for you?
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>>176177159
Nothing, though being at war slows down your infamy burn by 70% and your WE can rack up if you're not careful.
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>>176177793
Did you accept the Ming?
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>>176176386
Compared to these SP babby HPMtards, sure
>>
>>176178009
Yes
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>>176177632
I can upload a copy. It'll take 10 minutes
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Is there any way to play as Transcaucasia in HPM without having to be a substate the entire game, or do you have to annex and release them as Russia first?
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>>176178307
ok
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>>176153248
does bloat make eu4 actually playable?

vanilla is shit
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The Forbidden City is in our hands.
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In Crusader Kings 2, do I put my chancellor on the capital of the kingdom to fabricate the claim for it?
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>>176178673
Here's the event
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>>176175142
>>176178481
https://mega.nz/#!Fu5gzboJ!bo8HszkZTDRt4Ch-vUD9yVWN50v2FZ0ZkBXSa3dYhGI
The HPM in the mod folder is 0.3.3.3
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>>176177632
fuck i uploaded to temporary session. it'll take another 20 minute. sorry for not responding was playing cuck kings 2. ill (You) when its ready
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>>176178694
You can only fabricate a kingdom claim with become king of X ambition
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>>176177632
>>176179003
bit longer, im really sorry
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>>176179192
god bless
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>>176178961
Also it has the RAM fix applied. And there might be a few meme edits to the HPM files
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More and more men flock under our banner to fight the corruption and injustice of the Manchurian emperor.
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>>176179437
Take the south quickly or you'll lose it to the Germs
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>>176174597
>check phone
>see this response
>go over to computer to download
>my internet is down

I
WANT
TO
DIE
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How do i git gud at DH
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going for muh rome

Hungary/Commonblob and myself make up the eastern bloc keeping russia and the HRE in check.

unfortunately france is only being barely kept in check by a GB/castille alliance.

naples/georgia are my vassals waiting to be annexed, although im gonna feed naples more of italy before i do. wallachia is my march i'll feed when i eventually stab hungary in the back for the balkans.

do I have a shot at trajan borders before 1821, lads?
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>>176180015
>do I have a shot at
>1570

yes
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god damnit is huey long i hate commies guy back
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Play https://youtu.be/cD65IUlS4Ug as you read.
>be me
>playing vicky2 in uni library
>hear behind me
>"Hey what are you doing?"
>think its someone talking on phone (WHICH THEY SHOULDNT BE DOING IN THE LIBRARY REEEEEEEEEEEEE) so dont turn round
>hear "Hmm?" and realise it might be me so i turn round
>its a girl
>a pretty girl with long light brown hair and glasses
>alt + tab off of game like i was watching porn
>"Oh, ugh, just playing a game to pass time."
>"Cool, what's it about?"
>"Urgh, well basically you manage a country and stuff"
>she sits next to me
>shes so pretty
>but just not so pretty that she'd be prime pick of anyone
>so maybe i have a chance
>she pushes her glasses up her cute button nose like some velma tribute act
>this is so fucking comfy, is this what it feels like to be normal?
>alt+tab the game back up
>"And, ugh, you sort of have to make your people literate and smart and prevent poverty"
>"Woah, so you control a WHOLE country?"
>wtf why does she care so much
>"Y-yeah, and you control the tax rate and-"
>group of girls in corner burst out laughing
>realise what's going on
>tell her to fuck off, nearly in tears now
>she goes back to bitch squad to laugh at how autistic i am
>shut down game and miss next period because im crying in my dorm
Don't know whether to be cynical of all human interaction from now on or allow this to happen again tbvqh lads.
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German Imperialist dogs in a desperate attempt to reinvigorate their degenerate empire seized more Chinese land.
>>176179637
I really tried anon
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>>176180695
Thats what you get for trusting 3D whores
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>>176180757
>those province sizes
I would never play this game for that. Why would anyone make a war game with so few provinces?
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>>176180695
kill her
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Anyone else getting connection errors when posting?
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>>176180695
Real and Heterosexual

WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED
>be 29 year old NEET living in mom's basement
>play victoria 2
>582th game of prussia
>mom call me on my phone because she's too afraid to come in the basement because of the stench
>son i think you should do something more produc-
>SHUT UP MOM IM TRAINING TO BE WORLD LEADER
>o-ok, dinner will be ready in 20 minutes
>JUST SLIDE IT DOWN THE STAIR WHEN YOUR DONE BITCH
>clic
>invade russia to expand polish territory
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>>176180695
fkn cunts
>>176180757
You'll get it eventually lad.
>>176180865
True
>>176180912
It was the best they had
>>176180970
This
>>176181130
No
>>176181203
Rude
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>>176181203
r u me desu
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>>176180695
You know what to do, anon
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Now that the Qing are crushed we must focus on the Germans.
Are people enjoying this?
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>>176181308
Stop doing this.
>>176181308
Reply to one post at once.
>>176181308
It's normal to reply to this many people in one post.
>>176181308
It makes you look retarded.
>>176181308
You don't want to look retarded, do you?
>>176181308
So NEVER do it again.
>>176181308
EVER
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>>176181421
>Are people enjoying this?
I preferred the Long and Assad AARs tbvqh lad, because I don't know much about Chinese history, but it's all content so carry on
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>>176181421
>Are people enjoying this?
Yes, do keep going
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>>176181369
lol
>>176181395
THIS
>>176181421
Yeah it's great
>>176181449
>lyl
>>176181569
Chinese stuff is shit, but classic KR is good
>>176181572
Agreed
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>>176180695
you know what you must do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj9ZnB5W3ZM
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>>176178961
>>176179003
>>176179192
It's been like this for ten minutes now
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>>176181819
Works for me mane
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>>176181661
Typical day at murrica school
>>176181819
fug
>>176182040
>nvm fixed it
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Using my merchantbux to flood the college with my cardinals, unfortunately my republic's lands are in North Africa so they are all turning out brown. On a level of 1 to 10 how sacrilege is this?
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With the destruction of the Qing dynasty we were presented with quite a few options.
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Ottomans pls
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>>176179010
Yeah it's on. Do I then just park my chancellor on the capital and wait?
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>>176182160

>playing catholic
>not being the yazidi merchant caliph secret shia assassin grand master
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>>176182160
The extreme worst, but who cares desu
>>176182202
Enlightenment > Tian
>>176182235
Fucking Ming is broken as fuck
>>176182257
Yup
>>176182379
Literally took the words from my mouth
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>>176182379
I'm the Most Serene Republic of Canarias and Morocco, get out of here with that mudslime shit. I've already conquered or converted all of the mudslimes of North Africa and Iberia.
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>>176130965
>>176131636
>>176133703
>>176138741
Where the fuck do you download Putinmod?
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>>176182459
Sorry anon already chose Tian before you posted
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>>176182603

yazidi isn't muslim tbqh
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>>176182603
Sorry I doubted you
>>176182669
Sorry m8, i dunno
>>176182864
no worries, get southern china though if you haven't already
>>176183001
But you said Shia and Yazidi are basically just mudslimes with blonde hair sometimes
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>>176181819
https://mega.nz/#!vAITQDzR!0jViZuC2cKvcvyLWubHEg3bPdmqJriIaoA7GmYnunDs
my viccy
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The Qing emperor continues to sacrifice his dignity, switching from German master to Japanese when the situation suits it.
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Will your provinces convert culture if they are ruled by a vassal of the local culture or is the only option to get the vassals to become your culture in ck2?
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>>176181308
thanks
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It strikes me as odd that I've never seen a communist/Soviet WC in DH/HoI3 posted here.
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>>176183378

A Berber county will only switch to Norse when ruled by a Norse
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>>176183627
Directly ruled or if the top liege is Norse?
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>>176183534
It's been overdone in the past.

One anon did a Soviet Republic AAR in KR and puppeted the whole of the Old World while the Americas fell to National Populists. Cold War began around 1949 between the East and West Hemispheres, with Japan being a Capitalist outpost in the East.
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The Germans are currently losing against the soulless communards.
Does anyone know if there's an event that starts a war between Tian and the Chinese Republic?
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>>176183534
Too easy.

It's like blobbing with gross germaniums but even easier.
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>>176183821
post your cabinet

also, just declare war on the Republic if you dont get any events in the months following a Republican Victory in the south
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>>176183986
Alright, but first I'm going to upgrade the MIL units to INF.
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>>176183673
http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Culture#Province_conversion
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>>176184134
>Central planning
>Drafted Army
>Upgrading
Is that even worth the IC?
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>>176183821
there is
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>>176183947
Doesn't matter how easy it is, it's about roleplay. Soviets are practically one of the only countries in the world justified in WC.

>>176183773
Absolutely based. How long ago was this?
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Which way /gsg/?
>>176184215
I'll be honest I'm not that familiar with the intricacies of Darkest hour, in fact it took quite a few restarts to get past the first hurdles against the Qing.
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Who will win the religious war lads?
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>>176158781
non
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>>176184482
Better screenshot.
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>>176184437

West, take the easy targets out first.
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>>176184482
The other poor devils in China, India, or Japan.
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>>176184437
GO WEST
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>>176167759
>using hussars when stacks are still 4/4/1/1
Dragoons fight better than hussars and the extra recon is a total waste
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>>176184437
go west young han
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>>176184215
>>176184437
No, it's not worth the IC.
Just build more INF and use the MIL as cannon-fodder or backline reserves
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>>176155670
What mod?
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>>176184998
KR for GOY4
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>>176184939
1× Respectfully Kek'd
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>>176184284
>Soviets are practically one of the only countries in the world justified in WC.
Which part of the "socialism in one country" did you miss
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>>176185198
>implying you can't make (((trotsky))) win in dh
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>>176169232
Oh fuck, where is that from? A friend and I are working on a mod around the 1849 republic.
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The Warlords in the West have been defeated
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is this the new meme they added in eu4 to stop you from abusing diplo annexation?

what the shit do i do, i can't burn that much prestige.

and russia/france are gigantic blobpowers i don't really want to fight
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>>176185684
Based. Who owns Taiwan?
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>>176182160
Managed to stack the college in about 10 years , used up all of my money but hey, I might get to see a brown pope someday
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>>176185757
there's no new meme, you get a -3 hit to dip rep, which affects liberty desire, I assume putting them over 50% and France and Russia jumped on them afterward
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Please negotiate, I already redeployed my soldiers.
>>176185764
Japan
>>
yeehaw
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>>176185943
hello pony daddy
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>>176185863
>its another "living interracial fantasies vicariously through ck2" post
Ebin.
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>>176185863
Forgot image
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>>176185897
You know you can strat redeploy troops quicker than moving them normally, right?
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>>176185967
It's actually just an unfortunate consequence of being a merchant republic in Africa, randomly generated bishops were brown.
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>>176186053
That's what I meant, I strat redeployed them from the steppes.
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>>176186146
Aah, okay, you said you were not familiar with the intricities of DH, so I was trying to help but you already knew that, wasn't meming you or anything fäm.
>>176186061
They really need to make better Arab portraits.
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great victory with even greater allies, Czechs
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>>176186319
Is that HIP? Those portraits look even better than the original portrait packs.
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>>176186260
They should just redo all of the portraits with as much effort as they did with the new German ones. With these new portraits anyone who isn't German looks like they have down syndrome.
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>>176186435
Yep, it is although Im a bit dissapointed with its performance since last update map got bit larger. Other than that its good
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>>176185757
>>176185876

apparently if you just drag your vassal into a war, they lose their ability to support independence.

>tfw you backstab """""""third rome""""""" while they're off a continent away in siberia trying to fight chinks
>hide behind my polish slavs which do most of the fighting
>getting tons of prestige to placate my vassal in italy

excellent
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>>176185198
If the whole world is one country though...
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>>176186471
Just like real life.
t. anglo-saxon masterrace
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Tibet has been defeated.
>>176186260
It's alright, thanks for trying to give me tips though.
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Which way /gsg/?
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Controlling two thrones, shall my new trophy be called Burgundy, or France? Also what the fuck should i do with this vasal limit, i just passed the centralization law and im still over it duchies dont work fuck
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>>176186815
South, obviously. Aren't you allied with the Japs?
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>>176186565
Where did the map get larger? I usually play with Mini-SWMH, so anything in Saharan Africa or India doesn't matter.
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>>176186847
Im retarded, picrel
>>176186916
Italy, there's now shitton of small provinces. Before update they were normal in scale, somewhat like France's
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>>176186986
CK2 already handled feudalism realistically enough, this is just bloat.
>>
If I wanted to be able to run CK2 at tolerable speeds for a whole normal game (1066-1453), what processor do you guys recommend?
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>>176187140
bloat doesn't exist

the more the merrier
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>>176187140
what you mean
>>176187158
vanilla will run just fine on medium tier procs, get shit like i7 to maximize performance
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>>176187225
>medium tier
I've never built a PC before. What constitutes "medium tier"? i5?
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>>176187215
t. meiouidf
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>>176187296
yeah, i5 are really fine as long as you take care of them - i mean change paste, clean from time to time, they will serve you well.
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>>176187296
>>176187158
go by your budget

http://www.logicalincrements.com/
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>>176153081
How the ficken do I do Manstein Plan in HoI4?

Steamrolling Poland is easy enough, even though I have to overrun it all on my own and then hand over half it to Stalin because if the game's buggy diplomacy system.

But micromanaging the invasion of the Low Countries isn't a feature in the game, resulting in just one general movement of armies and getting bogged down in an attrition war with France like what happened in ww1.
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>>176187347
i'm right you know
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>>176187397
>HoI4
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Joyous day! Our brothers to the south recognize the emperor's divine right to rule and they willingly joined the Empire.
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>>176187469
*plays laggy game because modders chose to add useless shit*
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>>176187225
>>176187363
>>176187373
Thank you anons
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Well?
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What the fuck is going on? The king of England at one point was Norse pagan, and now the king of France is.
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>>176187731
Yan'an, more central.
Unless you plan to take Russian Siberia, in which case Beijing.
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>>176187748
white nationalists
>>176187731
Nanjing
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>>176187748
>tfw you'll never be a norse pagan living in France under Capet rule
why even live
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>>176187731
Nanking of course. Great city with long history.
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>>176187748
Mods?
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I chose Nanjing for the capital since it achieved a plurality
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holy fucking shit, just by arriving on battlefield he's winning
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how do i become more gross
besides finishing off the dutch of course
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>>176188089
Just HIP
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>>176188197
belgium and poland are the only acceptable answers
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>>176187397
Invade Marseille or Toulon via Italy right after declaring. Fucks up France's AI and makes you slide through the Low Countries and Northern France like a hot knife through butter.
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Negotiate Or threaten?
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>>176188197
>Christendom successfully retakes Constantinople
>hands it to some fat Irish nobody

neat
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>>176188534
Threaten.
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>>176188534
This is too dangerous :^)
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All my CK2 DLC is gone. WTF? Anyone else have this happen?
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>>176188173
If you're going to meme, meme properly. You want to become groß.
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I'm really fucking tired of spending 20 years fabricating a claim and getting nothing.

This mechanic is terrible.
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While threatening didn't have the desired effect... loyalists have risen up in the imperialist pseudo-state.
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>>176188173
>Germany
>2nd place in industry
are you retarded?
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>>176188776
use the DLC activator again, pirate DLC disappear with each update until you activate them again
>>
Is there a console command or something that allows you to stop being a substate or satellite?
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>>176189038
Oh shit thank god, I think i had to do this before but I haven't played in a while. Thanks my man.
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>>176188984
Stop fabricating claims.
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>>176188951
sorry I was too lazy to get groß but don't worry that is my intent I just scooped up Flanders
>>176189000
I don't know what I'm doing wrong the UK is consistently one hundred points above me and I can't catch up no matter what I fucking do
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With Yunnan defeated all that is left is the false emperor in Manchuria, and Taiwan held by the Japanese.
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>>176189546
Invade and fully occupy them.
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>>176188984
Marry well to get claims, don't fabricate.
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>>176188984
Nobles weren't cavemen who went "ooga-booga thats my land now".

Marriage was the most common way of acquiring titles, followed by gaining favor at court and proving yourself in your liege's wars.

The fact that the mechanic is in the game is already pushing it for the High Middle Age standards.

The only real exception was England during the 100 years war, where mercenary captains could claim conquered French land with the approvel of the king.


>inb4 CK2 isnt only about western europe huurrrr duurrr

Go enjoy your multiple playthroughs in India
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>>176189528
>>176189675
You can't marry into the papacy.
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>>176189786
Trying to conquer the world purely via Jainism was fun
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>>176189794
>trying to take away the pope's rightful lands
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>>176189951
>pope
>rightful lands

inb4 Donatio Constantini
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>>176189951
The pope is a catholic shit who needs to convert to Orthodoxy.
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>>176187397
>dividing poland
>having problems to conquer france
>in hoi4
please never post hitler again. you re a disgrace.
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>>176188534
That's a nice space program the legation cities have.
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This is it lads, wish me luck.
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>>176190441
What's the L-infantry?
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>>176189786
This is also wrong in EU4's time period. Like just send a spy to fabricate some claim. Hardly ever happened outside of HRE infighting.

Not sure why I was memed into thinking EU4 AI would constantly attack me over claims though. Here I'm having a pretty comfy, non-expansion run and while Ottomans keep claiming my shit, not once for a hundred years have they ever attacked me for them. Only wars I fought was to kill Venice.. though they still keep existing outside of their former capital as can be seen.
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I don't think I'll be able to finish all my goals for this game seeing as how Russia and Japan are allied. So I'm gonna stop because I rather just cease this AAR then cheat and remove Russia from the alliance.
If anyone has any suggestions on which KR nation I should play next feel free to ask.
Sorry.
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>>176187363
>>176187373
Another question:
How would a g4560 compare with an i5? Obviously worse, but how much worse?
For reference, I'm currently using an A6-4455M @ 2.1 GHz
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>>176191582
Show the rest of the world
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>>176191582

Keep going and fight to the last stand.

Then do Gross Georgia
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>>176191681
The rest of the world is shit
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>>176191865

>French victory over Germany
>Britain somehow split up

What the fuck?
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>>176191865
Is there an option for based White Russia to come in and save Europe from the godless commies?
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>>176191619
Google it up lad, really. Check reviews, tests, comparisons and you'll have yourself an answer on every matchup.
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GROBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
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>>176191951
if feminists win the UoB elections, they can give autonomy to Wales and Scotland.
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>>176192392

Truly this is the darkest timeline.
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So which version of NwO is actually playable and is it good or should I look back
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>>176154756
>playing (((kaiserreich)))
The mod is made by SJW cucks.
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>>176192746
Explain?
>>
>never had any trouble getting torrented games to run
>got new pc
>download hoi4
>it just won't start
>try 4 different torrents
>nothing
Help?
>>
>>176192746
Tankies hate SJWs as much as /pol/ does, so pretty wrong on that.
>>
>>176192975
>>>>>torrents
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hoi4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>help
k lad because im in a good mood after btfoing some jewish cucks that shit talked hitler i will help you out. go to this link http://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=65592
download the game and dont forget to crack the game. all of the instructions are there
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Rate my Great War outcome.
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>>176193091
Thanks
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>play hoi4 KR
>playing as USA
>everything going fine
>suddenly Caribbean Federation randomly starts justifying war goals against me
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>>176193342
based!
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>>176193261
That fucking Balkans.
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>>176193430
It's actually surprisingly stable. I might cheat a bit to clean up the borders though.
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BELIEVABLE WORLDS
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>>176193261
What's the fancy war stats thing ?
>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/69w33y/churchill_on_the_ai/

friendly reminder that paradox is trying their hardest and you should accept every single flaw in all their games

also buy the new dlc
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>Jagellion
reeeee race traitors
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>>176195873
Says the Anglo Cuck
>>
>>176195873
the dynasty they get is either random or depends on something like prestige
>>
>>176153081
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=919921469
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Finally decided to sit down and fuck with CK2 to get my bearings. After really learning how to play it's actually pretty fun. /blog
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>>176196707
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bravo wiz
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Which Russia is more based, Republic of Russia or Russian Empire with Tsar in power?
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>>176197191
How is that even a fucking question
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>>176154275
Those feet though
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>>176197801
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>>176195873
>he says with a Lancaster on the Austrian throne
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>>176197835
>>176195929
objectively false
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How do I get into trade in EU4?
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>>176193261
>Another Great War starts
>UK with allies has ~3000 military power
>Japan with allies has around ~1500
>Japan wins
Oh God
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>>176198569
>Russia + UK vs Japan

why
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>>176198569
Here's dismantling of Russia. The actual dismantle events seem to take quite some time to trigger. Losses in this war was about 6x that of the first Great War.

>>176198634
Crisis over Patagonia in Argentina. The picture has the analysis of it, showing the countries involved. I wasn't actually in this one.
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>>176198759
And here's the absolute disaster that is China. All of it used to be owned by the Taiping Clique.

At least the eternal anglo got BTFO'd so I'm now the #1 power in the world.
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>>176198829
Shit forgot the image
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>>176198909
>clique

kek what is this memery
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do you need roma for shadow kingdom?
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>>176199575
yeah
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>>176197191
Ideal Russia is Putinist because it combines the best of all Russias under a strong and undisputed leader. Tsars were too bound by muh Euro peace and Stalin by communism. Putin in charge of a Russia with 19th century Imperial or 20th century Soviet borders would be the ideal Russia.
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>Nobody posting HOI4

Says a lot, is the game bad? Is DH objectively better?
>>
>AI sieges my forts at 21% chance
>my sieges always last until like 71%
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>AI leader of Protestant League is fucking Bohemia
>In his infinite wisdom he decides to launch the war while myself, France, and the Ottomans are already at war with Austria, preventing us from entering the League war
God fucking damnit.
>>
>>176200705
>not clicking the convert button immediately when it's available so you'll be the designated league leader when the event fires

You even get some free shit for being one of the first three Protestant nations.
>>
>>176200201
HOI4 is laughable
>>
>>176200907
I was the first protestant nation. But the league formation didn't auto-pause my game and Bohemia insta-joined, and was made leader for being first despite having like 5 provinces.
>>
>>176200471
>not using the get out of siege free button
wew
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>>176200201
Hoi4 is too much "videogamey", more or less, with most (flawed)mechanics being there just to be there, rather than trying to be used as an abstraction for something.
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>Believable worlds
>>
Im at war against ottomans along with serbia as Byzantine. What are the chances of hungary or austria starting their own war against them? They are already also at war with some big shitskin nation to the east but I dont think two wars are enough to beat the roaches
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>>176199029
you must be 18 or over to post
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>>176197191
neither of those 2 comrade
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>>176201675
I don't see anything wrong other than Ming not raped by Qing. Tbh, the whole fall of Ming is basically a string of bad luck with the whole Yangtze flood and bureaucrat corruption
>>
>>176202275
W&B
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>>176202283
What about the fact that an institution spawned in a nation that is missing every other institution except feudalism.

And fuck their ability to keep up in tech with a 240% penalty
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>>176201951
go back to /pol/ lol
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>>176202372
??
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>>176198909
Wait, what? The republic reborn? At least it holds Rome r-right?

Also
>4 years since the end of the 2nd Great War
>UK dismantle events still haven't fired
hpm pls fix
>>
>>176202357
Oh, you mean that colonialism in Beijing? I didn't see that lol. How the hell did that happen? I thought Paradox coded Asian nation to not getting colonialism idea?
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owo do i smell inheritance
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>>176202527
>4th rank in industry
>6th for military
Why are you so shit?
>>
>>176202598
>6th in military
No real fleet and just got out of war so my army is pretty small
>4th in industry
Am just bad
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>>176202598
france doesn't get any mega epic buffs unlike germania in Hyper Prussia Mod
>>
>176153609
>176156857
>176158736
>176164826
>176172218
>176177307
>176177724
>176180015
>176182235
>176184482
>176184607
>176185757
>176186571
>176191213
>176195873
>176197036
>176198105
>176199575
>176200705
>176201675
>176202584
kys yourselves
>>
>>176202576
I think that's Global Trade in Beijing.

And you can get Colonialism as an Asian country; it's just that generally most north Asian countries don't take Exploration, and Southeast Asian nations like Tidore and Makassar are too far from the Americas.
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>use dark divorce
>two days later find out wife is pregregnant

bravo hel
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>>176202527
>7 years after the war ends the Treaty of London fires

Also, does anyone know why Scotland didn't get released here? I thought the dismantling needed the country to release all civilised cores.
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>>176203469
>think India will be released as a single nation
>instead this happens
AAAAHHHHHHH
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>>176202576
they didn't
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kze-rP0sIQs
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>>176203554
And that's the end! I don't think I've ever seen a dismantled Austria-Hungary AND Russia in the same game. It looks surprisingly OK without me doing any border cleaning.

Interesting features include a fascist Russia, Netherlands, and of course UK. As well as split Italy.

I'll post some pictures from around the world soon.
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>>176203881
Africa is just a bunch of French dominions, so not that interesting. I got basically all of it in the scramble, and then released them one by one for -2 infamy and the relief of not having to worry about sieges in Africa.
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>>176203957
China and India are pretty fucked. Taiping Clique managed to move all the way from Tibet to Beijing in the last 5 years. They used to own all of China, before that it was the Heavenly Kingdom.

India is the result of a dismantled UK.

Japan is actually quite historical which is fun. Also the first time I've actually seen nationalist China.
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>>176204040
Austrialia is independent, and Indonesia was actually a GP for a short time. With all the dismantling this is actually a lot closer to history than most Victoria 2 games I've had. How often do you see an independent south-east asia?
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>>176153081
>This day in history, May 7th:
2017 - France falls to the hands of the infidel
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>>176204129
Finally, here's North America with a slightly larger US than normal, and of course independent Canada.
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>>176203874
*blocks your path*
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>>176204209
So there we go! UK fell from #1 to #4, US actually rose properly this time around, and Mexico is a GP.
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>>176204337
>Italy AND Two Sicillies
Every day we stray farther from God's light.
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Have the Ottomans been buffed even further in the recent updates? I've never seen them meme the game so hard before. 400k+ army with 665 force limit right now.
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>>176204858
MoH made the AI more aggressive so they'll blob just because they can.
>>
who's winning the liqqy 2 mp?
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>>176204858

>french niger
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>>176205140
Define winning.
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>>176204858
>sahara fully claimed in 1789
woah, so this is the power of eu4...
>>
>>176205336

highest score as of now?
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>>176205140
Me

t. Spain
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>>176205321
It was such a meme game.
>>
>>176205426

so... this is ... the power of eu4

>>176205408

why aren't you faggots posting any screenshots
>>
>>176205376
UK then probably.
>>
>>176205480
EU4 still has large wasteland areas, it's just that if you control enough provinces adjacent to a wasteland, the wasteland gets coloured as well. Still can't traverse it, though.
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>>176204337

Why didnt you spam Dreadnaughts and Battleships?

Anyways just finished a spanish game.
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What idea should I get? I feel like quality ideas are a waste because Im just going to trap the ottoman army in eboea anyway.
>>
I'm thinking of doing a reverse-colonialism run in EU4, where I start in Southeast Asia, colonise a few Indian islands and the Cape of Good Hope, West Africa, then secure a trading port in Europe.

What would be a good place for such a port? Ireland? The Azores? Cyprus? Sardinia?
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>>176207326
>he didn't take edirne
It doesn't matter, you'll get fucked in a couple of years anyway.
Restart.
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>>176207326
Admin if you just want to spam mercs with your Byzantine ideas
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>>176203554

I too would of preferred a single large India. Instead I got this mess. Furthermore the Netherlands was on the opposing side of the great war and Sweden did fuck all as a secondary power.

I actually save scummed a few times to try and get those Indian provinces but no luck.
>>
>>176207574
>admin innovative and trade if you want a thousand loans
ftfy
>>
>>176207542
we will see about that. I won that war with only serbia helping me
>>176207574
I have like 5 loans already and slowly recovering. What about economic ideas?
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HOW DOES THIS MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE
reeeeee
>>
>le byzantinium ebic runs

why don't you blobbers do an actually hard run?
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>>176207771
Alright, post after the next war with them.
I'll wait.

>>176207806
Edirne dumb GP poster.
>>
Doing an axis portugal run in DH

what am I in for?
>>
>>176207849
Because it's the best combination of relaxing and somewhat challenging.
>>
>>176207771
From my experience with economic ideas they only really help when you've already got a high income and large empire.
>>
>>176207849
>t. liquoria poster
>>
fuck you paradox why is DLC so expensive
>>
>>176208009

>memezantinums
>even REMOTELY challenging

lel
>>
>>176208131
It's intermediate in terms of challenge, yes.
>>
>>176207849
Byzbants runs are the hardest now because albania strat doesnt work anymore
>B-but muh african world empire run
just fuck off
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>>176208223
>albania strat doesn't work anymor-
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>>176208206

>the absolute state of eu babies
>>
What provinces are needed to stop Shadow Kingdom in 1.21?
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deus vult desu senpai
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>>176205408
is YYDA the right checksum?
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>>176208584
S-stop shitposting
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>>176208706

>that vanilla play-doh map
>le constantinople


simply ebic
>>
>>176207963
Praying Hitler isn't a failure.
Being bullied on a sea.
>>
>>176209151

is this a haiku?

I just want to retake the rightful soil stolen by the perfidious albion in Africa
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>>176209452
Canada and Britain will try to invade you forever, and when the US joins, they will as well.
>>
/gsg/, I'm trying to figure out some appropriate alternative ships for Chinese tech nations in EU4 for a mini-mod.

What would be some good ships to include in their progression?

I was thinking that their starting 'galley' could be the 'sea-hawk.' Their starting heavy ship could be the Baochuan, or Zheng He-style treasure ship. They could also have early combat junks as their medium ship.

But where to go from there? I know that next on the galley list would be yhd Wuhongchuan, but what of the oyher types?
>>
>>176208078
You might aswell just go eco and develop in the latest patch, especially if you have a gold mine. It's so cheap with prosperity and encourage dev and you should be sitting at over 50 PP all game with GP points and privateering so tons of excess mana.
>>
>>176207930
Im not hoping that this will crush them but it sure buys some time
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>>176210135
Now post the end of the war after your allies ran out manpower.
Also
>44 legitimacy
>>
>>176210450
I unironically, unfigurativelly, literally got a heir with weak claim and immediately got two fucking pretenders. Anyway Ottos are just one day away from our armies. This will decide everything
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What should the borders be, /gsg/? Think I'll release the southern US (minus Texas), but I can't release anything else other than Great Lakes(which only have a handful of provinces if I do release)
>>
Playing Vic2 as Italy
>bavaria becomes great power
>north german federation gets smoked in two back to back wars
>bavaria declares war on germany for hegemony
UK and sweden join in for germany
>bavaria wins UK and Sweden give up
>Bavaria now 6th in world and beat Germany, Uk, and Sweden

Things looking pretty interesting , also austria exploded and france lost its Mediterranean coast
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Guess thats all folks
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>Finish EU4 fighting Byzantine for European relevance while trying to strengthen moscowy
>Translates seamlessly to Vic 2, 3rd war to keep Moscowy from being overrun by Byzantine in 20 years.
>Indians align with Byzzies and flood us with troops.
This is actually legitimately fun.

I think Muscovy is fucked in the long run though, I need a new ally but arabs are hopelessly out of touch with industrialization despite being 3rd biggest nation by population.
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>>176211108
Keep fighting.
Your eventual loss pleases me.
>>
>>176211108

someone's gonna get memed on
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>>176211108

try to get a good general before fighting
>>
>>176211271
>>176211286
>Implying Im not gonna savescum and hire 6 mercenary divisions. And yes its ironman but Im gonna use backup
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>>176211396
>Letting women rule
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>>176208902
What map mod would you recommend, my lad?
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>>176203881
pls respond
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Please teach me the basics of Victoria 2, i feel like such a shitter everytime i try to play it

Try to use EU4 analogies if you can when explaining, like Aggressive Expansion == Infamy, right?
>>
>>176211681
its a boring lame ancient game with barely functioning mechanics and nothing to do dont waste your time
>>
>>176211681
Use the vicky II guides in the mega in the OP. As for army composition read on the forums and wiki.
>>
>>176211541

flatmap with dark water
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>>176211541
Don't let these autists shame you into using a flat map mod, seeing where mountains and hills are at a glance is very useful. Browse the workshop and find a mod that looks aesthetic to you
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>>176211794

this

liqqy 2 is shit
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Other than HIP or CK2Plus, what are the quintessential mods for Crusader Kings 2?

No meme answers please.
>>
Why do I still suck at strategy games so much
>>
>>176211941


t. johan
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>>176211967
Anime portraits are white and based my man
>>176211681
Just read every section of the wiki
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Goals and/or tips? Never played Netherlands before.

Also, do secondary powers get the free CBs against the Africans during the scramble in HPM, or is it only GP that get that?
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>>176212436
yes
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>>176212252
How fun is Vic2?
>>
>>176212746
I'd say about a 7, maybe a bit to the left and up but not quite. A little to much citrus for my taste hut a good range. Co I ld easily land in the 44% range necessary if you want, that's all i,can say about it
>>
>>176212252
Full control over Benelux, expand into India, fully control Indonesia, retake South Africa, dismantle anyone in your wsay.
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>>176212746
Very
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>>176212881
>>176212992
Is it better than EU4 with all dlcs? If so how and why?
>>
w&b
>hoi3
>eu3
>DH
not w nor b
>blobby 4
>liqqy 2
>crusader cucks 2
>goy 4
>>
>>176213176
EU3 is the most W&B grand strategy
>>
>>176213098
>is it better than dogshit with human feces dlc
>>
>>176212746
Like any Paradox game it really depends or your preference and knowledge of history.

I really like CK2 and Vicky because i'm specifically interested in the times of Feudalism and Industrialisation.

Meanwhile I can't get interested for EU4, not only because its more of a "lets make your mappainting as annoying and bothersome as possible" type of game but also because I don't know very much about the 1448 - 1780 time line.

These games very much rely on your own imagination.
>>
>>176213176
>>176213318
Im reading a lot of opinions and very few arguments
>>
>>176213406

t. EU baby
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So this happened
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wew the ottomans are so shitty in vic2
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>>176213506

the power of eu4
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>>176213395
Except when you are a min-maxing faggot like half the Paradox staff and all e-celebs who play the game.

>.t Arumba "huh Eisenhower wasn't a nazi?"
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>>176213474
Im not here to deffend EU4, im here to find out if vic2 is better, but im looking for reasons why not opinions
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>>176213629

they're both shit my autist, see >>176213176
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>>176213725
>looking for reasons why not opinions
>proceeds to point to opinions with no arguments
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>>176211681
What exactly are you struggling with? Do you not understand basic army compositions, NF strategies and what factories to build?
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>>176213406
I would say different rather than better. Victoria 2 attempts to simulator the running of a nation through its population dynamics, economic system, and international politics features. Vanilla Victoria 2 is great fun if you want to get as immersed in running a nation as is possible in a game. EUIV is a lot more "gamey," but not in a bad way. It has less depth in a lot of areas compared to Victoria 2, but offers a lot more features than it. With all the DLC you will always have something to do while playing whereas Victoria 2 can drag on at times due to having less to do when you are waiting for infamy to burn. EUIV abstracts a lot of aspects of running a nation, but that frees up the player to focus on wars/expansion.

I prefer Viccy, but EUIV isn't bad at all. It just depends if you find internal politics as or more fun than fighting none stop wars.
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>>176213926
The whole thing with capitalists and trade is all but nonesense to me right now, also i dont understand why im always losing so much money

>>176214040
Alright, but is Vic2 worth the time investment to learn?
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>t-take that von habsburgs
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>>176213868

you don't need to argue on why dogshit is bad -- it's common sense
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>>176214258
0/10
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So I've played campaigns with Spain (colonizing) and Austria (blobbing Europe with vassals), but never played Iron Man. What are some nice nations to get achievements now?
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>America just gains all my land even after turning off autotrade
fucking epic
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>>176214116

are you black?
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>>176214260
if its so commons sense why does every one play EU4 and very few play Vic2?
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>>176214245
Trade is automated unless you disable it, so no need to worry about it. At the very most you want to set manual stockpiles of critical goods, but that's nothing you need to do as a novice.

Capitlists have money of their own - the more you tax them, the less they have. If your government style permits it (i.e Laissez-Faire, State Capitalism, Interventionism...) then they'll invest in railroads and factories if they can afford them. Capitalist AI however is retarded and their investments often go bankrupt.

If you go broke early on then don't be afraid to lower military spending during peacetime, lower administrative spending a bit (assuming you play a stable, Euro GP) and tax the shit out of the poor, like 80-90%. If you must, raise tariffs a bit and get the tax efficiency techs.
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>>176214401
No, am white
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>CK2, Old Gods Greater Poland
>grab Poland, Bohemia, most of Pomerania, a bit of Moravia and Lithuania and even parts of Bavaria and majority of Hungary thanks to heretics being easy victims
>realm gets pretty tight without emperor's title
>pagan Lithuania has 33 fucking provinces
>like hell I'm going to fight against that with their event spawned bullshit
>realize I'm 2 counties short of Carpathia
>go back to dismantling heretic Hungary
>make sure the only Cathar realms are half-dead Hungary and recently raped by me Bulgaria
>easy-peasy
>time to burn some heretics
>bully some 1k stacks, start the siege
>suddenly Byzantine fucking empire converts to Cathar and joins the war
>fuck
>just a prank bro, how about a white p-
>nope
>FUCK
>it's alright anon, you have won much worse wars before
>as a defender
>okay, let's see how much surrendering would co-
>alright, it's a war then
>siege target until doomstack pops out to stop the score from going down
>okay, here they are, time to retreat and wait for split or attrition
>they have an organizer commander
>shit
>lose the battle
>retreat, gather all my troops
>doomstack goes to deal with other war
>great
>go back to siege
>doomstack's back, smaller due to attrition
>my 14k vs their 16k, I have terrain advantage and excellent commanders
>I'll show you who's the boss of the gym
>DEUS VULT
>battle goes well, filthy heretics are about to get raped
>suddenly deus not vult
>my army gets absolutely destroyed
>what the flying fuck
>heretic magic or some shit
>lose like half the units
>score goes down to -70%
>second stack appears
>no room or time to play defensively
>okay, let's stop this shit before someone decides that we really need gavelkind in Poland
>treasury: -800
>one month later my entire demesne has every single flavor of organized crime
>ruler decides it's a great moment to not be ambitious anymore
I'm going to commit a crime against humanity on those Byzantine fuckers. Like genocide. Or forcing them to speak polish.
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>>176214451

>very few play Vic2

KEK

have you ever checked /r/paradoxplaza? Liqqy 2 is their favourite game (confirmed by a poll)
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>>176214585

you have to prove that
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>>176214245
I would say yes. Learning Victoria 2 isn't that bad after a single good practice game. What nations have you tried? Some are better left after you played as an easier nation. The British Empire as your first playthrough is never going to be any fun. Japan is a great starter nation. The Victoria 2 wiki article on Japan is pretty good and will help you get started in the right direction.

Also, consider watching the first hour of a Victoria 2 let's play by a popular youtuber (Quill18, Arumba, shenryyr2, etc.). It doesn't matter which as they are all good enough to show the basics of good play and they all tend to explain what they are doing pretty well.
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>>176214739
Ok
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>liquoria posters convincing people to sink into their abandoware
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>>176214608
Is everyone pirating it then?


>>176214792
I basically am only interested in this game because i wanted to play the russian empire, are they too hard for an absolute begginer?
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>>176212915
I'm definitely going for full control over the Indonesia, and I'll take some of south east Asia as well.

Retaking South Africa might be difficult since I'm using the UK as my beating stick as the moment to take colonies from Spain.
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>>176215083
Russia isn't beginner friendly. Low literacy, giant landmasses to manage and almost always absolute bonkers militancy in the end game.

Like the other anon said try Japan first, its does a good job of introducing you to Industrialization, Westernization and Sphere of Influences, while the giant watermass between you and the rest of the world keeps you relatively safe if you mess up (which you will, every first timer goes over the 25 infamy limit because its never properly explained ingame).
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>>176213506
It was fun while it lasted
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EUkiddies in despair
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Imagine having trusts, monopolies and other types of private companies in Vicky 3. Victoria 2 needs a more polished political system, with different factions involved.
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>>176215480
What happened?
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Is Ck2+ better or worse than HIP?
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how come I don't get any immigrants as reino unido in napoopan mod even if I keep my capital in rio de janerio?
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heh nothing personal
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>>176215817
Not sure. Wasn't really watching it but here's what they have now after the ottoman war ended
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>>176216046
i meant venice. Ottoman war is still going on.
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>>176215837
It's the less autistic version of HIP, you decide if that makes it better or worse
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I feel like given my status in the empire I should have significantly more power but alas I feel insignificant.

I am the only vassal in the empire with a landed duchy title as opposed to a viceroyalty.
I answer to my own religious head since I have Antioch.
I am the only person in the empire with access to the silk road.
I am chancellor and regent.
I am the educator of the emperor whose parents and grandparents are all dead.

Shouldn't I have some serious amount of control over things? I have basically every possible title that should hold power given the young age of the emperor yet I can't seem to do anything with it.
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>>176172736
Yeah and that is playing HOI and forming Rhodesia
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>>176216647
>Ian "apartheid is racist" Smith
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>>176216551
>vassal in byzantines
>expecting any kind of fun or satisfaction
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>>176216990
Is that semen on yout mousepad?
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>>176216990
>that wrist

fat detected
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>>176217054
No, where do you see that?
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>>176217294
True
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>>176217312
Couldn't differentiate between the black and the dark blue and thought the paws were tnreee globs of semen.
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>>176217294
Fatties are W&B
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>>176216975
I just wanted to holy war against the Muslims. So far it has been going well since I won independence from my liege, acquired 6 new counties, and acquired alliances which will allow me to fight against Georgia/Armenia. I'll be Emperor within the next 100 years.
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>>176217294
t. slim jealous brown person
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MP at 6pm EST, right?
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>>176217631
>jealous
>brown

guess again
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>>176217692
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>176217715
How are the favelas treating you, Ricardo?
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>>176217731
gud meme
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>>176217848
Suck my pure German cock
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>>176218029
>all that hair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Argentines
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>>176207849
>blobbing
>not keeping aesthetic borders as >>176191213

kys my men
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>>176218261
Family is from southern Germany my dude, but keep trying.
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best v2 mod atm?
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>>176218283
>not retaking your rightful territory
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>>176218362
>South Germany
>White
hahahahhahaha oh wow
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>>176218029
Won't need to, Ahmed will be doing it for you, Fritz
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>>176218450
Oh don't get me wrong I live in the USA.
>>176218421
>trying this hard
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>>176218362
Your skin is literally brown, are you blind?
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>>176191213
I'm pretty sure EU3 didn't have fabricating claims. I remember being upset at EU4 introducing that mechanic from CK2.

I don't even remember how I used to gain land in EU3.
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apparently you become an elector if you gobble up one
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>>176218553
I get sun from going outside, so no?
>>
hair is white and based

you sissy blobblers won't get any leverage here

>>>/lgbt/
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>>176217692
MP within the next 2-4 hours, probably.
The time agreed upon yesterday is just a meme, we'll MP when everyone is here
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>>176218417
>we held these lands once for like a few years therefor it all belongs to us now

Honestly it's fucking Rome. Their justification for expansion was to further the glory of Rome, not to reclaim rightful territory.

In the true spirit of Rome you should conquer all of Africa, Arabia, Persia, Britannia, and India.

The Russians can fuck off though since their land is shit.
>>
>>176218029

are you living in germany tho? amerimongrels aren't allowed on gee-ess-gee
>>
REMINDER

It is your responsibility and honor as a colonizer to uplift and civilize sexy native girls from the americas.
>>
who were the most disgusting blobbers IRL?
>>
>>176218838
no to be honest it's just staining white genes
if you fall for the carnal desires of lesser races you're only hurting the white race itself
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>>176218518
>I live in the USA.
>claims he's german

like pottery.
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>>176218642
>sun makes you brown
No, sun makes white people pink, from the swelling of blood vessels and their subsequent engorgement.

Your skin is fucking brown. That doesn't happen from sun.


You know I am right. I'm sorry for your loss.
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Are there any links to balanced, converted CK2->EU4 saves? I'd kind of like to fuck around with one that isn't just some dude's gay world conquest or whatever
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>>176218904
Russia but we're used to it so it's OK.
>>
>>176218838
worked out great with southern america huh
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>>176218932
>not knowing the difference between sunburn and tanning

as expected of non-white celtic filth
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>>176218906
>Being a race-shithead
>Implying race is more important than culture

I'd rather hang with a civilized nigger than an uncivilized white.
>>
>>176215941
Pls respond. I even releases portugal and changed to republic to see what would happen but there's still no immigration. is this intended behavior?
>>
>>176214589
Local heretic not so tough since being crusaded.

Also I REALLY need an empire now.
>>
who /swarthybriton/ here
>>
>>176219025
black man in a nice suit > hillbilly in shitstained underwear

I can understand this logic.
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>>176219043
>that Poland

what in the fuck.
>>
>>176219096
>Now get moving on dying in your 40s of heart disease

I don't agree with this, I'm actually in quite good shape.
>>
>>176219096

reported for off-topic
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>>176219096
As much as I hate /pol/, dont bring it up here. Half of the shitposting is in jest. We just like history.

Now frig off.
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>>176219267
Stellaris
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>>176219016
>tan
>tan changes your genetics
Wew, I always thought the Las Argentinas son white meme was a joke, but you genuinely believe your caramel skin is white.

White people do not tan, we're not made for it, the skin just burns because we evolved out of Africa and adapted to our climate, you did not. You're essentially african.
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>>176219438
>irish
>white
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>>176219438
>>>/pol/
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>>176218597
Blobbing in EU3 happened through diploannexing vassals, inheriting PUs, different CBs (holy war, reconquest, religious liberation, conquest etc) or just soaking up the infamy by blobbing a little at a time.
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>>176219438
>White people do not tan
This is actually wrong.
Celtic peoples skin turn gold when tanned.
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>>176218417
>>176218724
Byzantium in the 15th century was a broke city state that just barely continued to exist. It existing as a KuK between Greeks and Slavs that unite under Rome's old banner to resist Catholics and Muslims is the most likely outcome of a 'successful' Byzantium.
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So how the shit are you supposed to play Texas. The Americans just annexed all my continental land and I am now stuck in Haiti. Most of my Texan pops are no longer in my country.

Is this worth continuing? Is there a way to core my remaining land?
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>>176219923
Anon this is a game where you can be an independent African pagan in France and go on to conquer the entire world in a matter of 400 years.

Mechanically speaking Byzantium is by far the best realm in the game in the 769 start. They have all the best laws available immediately and Constantinople starts with incredibly good buildings and an unsiegable county capital.

They also have the ability to mend the great schism which makes Orthodoxy the most powerful religion by an overwhelming margin. Then there's the reformation of Rome which gives them free CB's against half of the map because fuck your laws and traditions we're Rome.
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Is Poland a fun kingdom to form and play with an 867 HIP start?
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>>176218724
>Their justification for expansion was to further the glory of Rome, not to reclaim rightful territory.

Anon, the Byzantines continued to see every territory they lost as "theirs" even if they hadn't held it for centuries. It's one of the quintessential qualities of being a fuckin' Greek.
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>no gearing bonus for factories in DH

how am I supposed to grow fast?
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>>176220137
Reconquer Texas later, during the Civil War. You're still getting a shitload of immigrants that can be assimilated later.
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>>176220514
Even Wales?
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>>176220393
>867
Fuck off.
>>>/r/crussderkings
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>>176220551

Wales was part of the Western Roman Empire, so no. JUST-inian's grand campaign to retake the old territories was unique to him.

It's one of the many reasons why the Byzantines met the Crusades with suspicion and derision, rather than jubilation at hordes of Germans to throw at their enemies.
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New thread
>>176220391
>>176220391
>>176220391
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>>176220708
>It's one of the many reasons why the Byzantines met the Crusades with suspicion and derision
Why did they do that? Venicians were their greatest allies.
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>>176219096
The first thing I want to be done is to get that shitty post off of my chinese cartoon image board. Don't just get it out of here, get it off the internet, because I proved, son, without a shadow of a doubt, that you ain't got what it takes anymore! You sit there, and you post from your basement, and you say "talex", and it didn't get you anywhere. Talk about your "Have sex", talk about M00t 3:16 - /gsg/ 3:16 SAYS I JUST HAD SEX! All he's gotta do is go buy him a cheap hooker and take a shower to get back some of that courage he had in his prime. As the King of the shitposting, I'm servin' notice to every one of the anons on steamcordplaza.' I don't give a damn what they are, they're all on the list, and that's shitpost king's list, and I'm fixin' to start runnin' through all of them. As far as this shitpost contest is considered, son, I don't give a damn if it's treed or turkslayer. shitpost king's time has come, and when I get the shot, I'm gonna start hittin the weights, and that's the bottom line because this board is 18+!
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>>176220361
I'm talking EU4, in the CK2 time period it makes sense for it to be able to rise back to greatness and get back its entire empire and lose it several times. For EU4 just because the mechanics allow you to blob, doesn't mean you should.
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>>176204337
What mod is that?
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>>176224010
Obviously HPM.
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>>176165587
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>>176211967
dark world
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>>176230665
Based
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