/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>>176107541

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKVu6P5tIOk

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Post your demon 3x3's

GORO IS THE BEST SMT CHARACTER SINCE SATAN

>>176107606
Hey that's pretty good

>>176107606
How do people even make these? Do they draw over every frame of the original animation?

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Why can't megaten have a good law rep like her?

>>176107648
So are we continue discussing Persona themes?

>>176107724
>he doesn't know how to record and output his thoughts into data

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>>176107764

Amane was pretty cool as far as lawfags go. Ronny was a bit of a cunt though

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>>176107764

>>176107835
Amane >>> Law Hero > Satan >> Jonathan > Ronaldo > Zelenin > Merkabah

Should I go replay Apocalypse on Apocalypse or Nocturne on hard? (never beat either on the highest difficulty).

>>176107918
Best Law Bro

>>176108086
I'll take the opportunity that everyone is asleep to say that Nocturne hard mode is poorly balanced, pretty easy most of the time but you will die a lot to shitty rng deaths. Go with Apocalypse.

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>>176107621
I was exactly bored enough to do this

Though I would like to point out I prefer the Nekomata design introduced in Nocturne more than actual cat person Nekomata.

Why is Serph's run cycle so goofy?
They got it right with Demi and Raidou's what happened?

Am I the only one who thinks it's odd that Persona is taking more inspiration from mainline games but plenty of people still find the wider MegaTen franchise outside of Persona unappealing? I started with Persona 4 and really enjoyed the mythology and since then I've enjoyed a shitton of games in the series.

I guess I'm wondering if the VN/social sim aspects of Persona are enough to turn a RPG set in modern day with mythological elements from "Meh, whatever" to "Must-play!". I don't just want to wank off mainline for not being Persona, but I have a hard time thinking the characters alone are enough to bridge that gap.

How hard is Persona 1? Is it a bad idea to play it on Hard first time through?

>>176108791
It's more a matter of the mainline games not having any advertising whatsoever.
If they advertise Apocalypse properly it could have easily dipped into the huge Persona audience and kinda bridged the gap between the two franchises a bit, but they chose not to do that for whatever reason.

>>176108817
On normal there is nothing until the last boss that requires any effort.
And even at last boss, no brains required.

>>176108817
It's not hard at all, but you might have to do a lot of grinding if you're going to do the Snow Queen route.

>>176108817
It's a very easy game. I'd still play it on Normal just because it makes the fights slightly faster though, the combat is just so fucking slow

>>176108817
The hardest part is getting a feel for negotiations, and the shitty ass fusion system.

>>176108970
Agreed, I played it on hard and felt like I wasted a lot of time.

>>176108817
p1's difficulty exists only if you don't max mag and get megiddo

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>>176108817

Look up a recruitment guide. The game doesn't tell you this but it's possible to get stuck with a 5th party member you don't want like Brown or Ayase.

Eriko best girl

>>176109217
Ayase is cute

>>176108791
It's literally the dark souls of Persona what are you expecting?

>>176108791
It's not just the characters, it's the sheer amount of "story" that Persona games have that brings people to them. The sparser storytelling of other MegaTen games is not enough to carry people through a bunch of random battles.

>>176109252

No she's not.

>>176108817
Save when you get to the forest area, or you might be locked to the bad ending and miss like half of the game.

>>176109295
There's also the fact that SMT difficulty tends to be be a lot more unfair. Persona has very little RNG by comparison and you're not going to worry about getting killed in 1 hit in random battles.

>>176109423
I've died to hama and mudo a lot of times in P3 and P4, I think they toned it down on 5.

>>176109487
Well that's insta kill spells, I've gotten fucked up by random encounters in IV because a pixie got a smirk

It's offset by save anywhere but if I had the choice I'd lose save anywhere and have more fair battles with slightly bigger health pools for at least the protag.

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>>176109217
>>176109364
Are you the guy from /v/ yesterday?

I sense good taste from you.

>>176109217
>>176109594
I wish I could muster that much excitement about P1 characters. I beat that game and none of their personalities stuck out to me.

>>176108687
Sauce on that Nekomata?

>>176108791
Even minor shit like terminology using personas and fighting shadows instead of demons makes a game more palatable to the masses.

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>>176109701
Did you talk to them in every room? All of them ooze personality compared to some cardboard cutouts we get in newer installments.

>Nanjo singing the item shop theme
Good shit

>>176109701
http://magicwinx01577.deviantart.com/art/Old-Art-SMT-Nekomata-213319621

no idea the actual source but that's the full sized one

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>>176109804
This, actually.
Nanjo, Reiji are the best, and Mark is pretty good too.

All of the girl characters are pretty boring, though. Yuki is alright. Mai is whatever.

They only get better in Persona 2.

>>176109804
>one generic line every room
>ooze personality

>>176109892
meant for >>176109731

>>176108870
>>176108946
>>176108970
>>176108978
>>176109123
>>176109217
>>176109396
Thanks anons. I'll play through on normal so the combat goes by quicker. And thanks for the tips about the fifth member and the Forest dungeon

>>176109804
I did talk to them in most rooms, still didn't really get too attached to them. Nanjo was my favorite though.

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Best demons to tackle the fiends in Apocalypse?

>>176109940
What, as opposed to

>SEEEEEEEENPAAAAAAAAI
>We're the Phantom Thieves! Scream it loud and scream it in public!
>Fuck you, Mitsuru
>No, fuck you Takeba
>Fsteak
>Unbearably unbeariable, take a beary great picbear because this bear is a koiack moment
>Go to sleep and fuck you Ryuji
>Lol I'm gay for a girl

>Yukino bitches everywhere when you take a detour before going to the hospital
>In P2IS if you take a detour to the park she says you remember a colleague of her that love taking the scenic route
cute

>>176110169
You know you can make anything sound terrible if you post like you're going full retard on /v/

>>176110394
>like
No, I am. It's pretty silly bashing P1 for bad characterization when hamfisted writing plagues 3, 4, and 5 even more.

>>176110480
chill fám

>>176110480
Nah

>>176110394
The irony is you're simplifying Persona 1 letting characters have actual lines of dialogue outside of story cutscenes into "one generic line per room". I wish Persona 3 and onwards got "one generic line per room", plus "new lines after plot events" like Persona 2 did.

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>>176110682
I didn't say anything about P1

>>176110532
Sorry, I haven't slept.

Kill me

>>176110480
P1 plot and characters were beyond barebones even for its time the only saving grace of P1 is the localization of the PSX version.

>>176110826
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>176110890
You could have easily modified this to be MegaTen related

I want you to try and apply yourself better in the future okay? I know you're better than this.

>>176109289
But Dark Souls was leaps and bounds more popular than King's field or even Demon Souls

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>>176110965
>>176110890
Back up, I made one a while ago that was.

What the hee did you just hee-ho say about me, you little ho? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Tokyo Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Amala, and I have over 3 hee-hundred-ho confirmed fuses. I am trained in bufula warfare and I'm the top fair-hee in the entire Tokyo armed forces, ho. You are nothing to mee-ho but just another random encounter. I will wipe you the hee-ho out with per-hee-cision the likes of which hee-has never been seen bef-ho-re on this Earth, mark my hee-ho words. You think you can get away with say-heeng that shit to me over the DDS-Net, ho? Think again, hee-ho. As we speak-ho I am contacting my secret network of spies across Tokyo and your IP-ho is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, ho. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life, ho. You're hee-ho dead, kid. I can be anywhere, an-hee-time, and I can freeze you in over seven hee-undred ways, and that's just with my Ice Breath. Not only am I extensivel-hee trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Tokyo Demon Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable hee off the face of the continent, you little ho. If only you could have known what un-heeho-ly retribution your little "clever" contact was about to bring down upon you, mayb-hee you would have held your hee-ho tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you YHVHdamn hee. I will ho fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, heeho.

>>176111157
Pretty good, I'm proud of you

>>176111157
too much hee-hooing, pretty low effort t b q h

>>176108204
Dex or Mag build? Also, I've heard horror stories about the hit chance, should I invest in agility a lot?

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>>176111258
I don't give a hee who you are or where you live, ho. You can count on me-ho to be there to bring your hee-ho life to a hee-hellish end. I'll put you in so much hee-ho pain that it'll make YHVH being nailed to a cross in the desert look like a hee-ho back massage on a tropical island, ho. I don't give a hee how many reps you have or hee-how tough you are IRL, hee-how well you can fight, or how many hee-ho demons you have to protect yourself. I'll hee-ho show up at your hee-house when you aren't hee-home. I'll turn all the lights on in your hee-house, leave all the MAG running, open your spell menu and not close it, and turn your Agi burners on and let them waste MP. You're going to start stee-ressing the hee-ho out, your blood pressure will triple, and you'll have a hee ho-heart attack. You'll go to the hee-hospital for a ho-heart operation, and the last thing you'll see when you're being put under in the operating room is me hee-hovering above you, dressed like a doctor, ho. When you wake up after being operated on, wondering what ticking time bomb is in your chee-st waiting to go off. You'll recover fully from your hee-heart surgery, ho. And when you walk out the front door of the hee-hospital to go hee-home I'll run you over with my hee-ho car out of nowhere and kill you, ho. I just want you to know how easily I could hee-ho destroy your pathetic excuse of a life, but hee-how I'd rather go to a great hee length to make sure your last hee-maining days are spent in a living, br-hee-thing fucking hee-hell.

It's too late to save yourself, but don't bother committing su-hee-cide either... I'll hee-ho Samarecarm you and kill you again myself you hee-faced ho. Welcome to hee-hell, population: you, ho

I don't actually care for Jack Frost that much.

Jack is cool though

>>176110998
They forgot to add the tagline prepare to be mudod again

>>176111618
>me-ho
It would be me-hee, you philistine.

>>176111157
>>176111618
I like these, good work

ho

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Is Trauma Team in MegaTen

More importantly, is Trauma Team more or less MegaTen than Maken X?

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the United Nations, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on chaosfags and lawfags alike, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in Press Turn warfare and I’m the top smirker in the entire UN armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Amala universe, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the DDS-NET? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies from the Kuzunoha Agency and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for a world of luck, maggot. The critical hits will wipe out that pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s without Megidolaon. Not only am I extensively trained in physical skills, but I have access to the entire arsenal of demons from the underworld and I will use them to their full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, hee-ho, bitch.

>>176112215
>no over 300 confirmed fusions
>no think again, punk
>no I will fire of sinai all over you
>underworld instead of expanse
>no little clever rumor
>no you goddamn son of man
5/10 could be better.

is there a video or audio clip anywhere of the Mac OSX Albert voice speaking the lyrics of the SMT 3 boss music?

Walter and Jonathan don't really feel much like they should be alignment reps. I guess this is usually a problem but I feel it more than usual in IV

Anyone here played the DemiKids games? Dark's a little basic but pretty fun overall.

I fucking hate Chaosfags

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How do we save SMT bros?
The personachads are going to destroy us.

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Man, it sure brings back memories. What a game.

>>176112556
I think it's only really an issue with Walter who goes all in rather suddenly.

Jonathan was just bending to 'legitimate' authority again when he decides to be sacrificed for the Archangels.

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>>176113743
My fujo girlfriend left me for some Personafag and I'm not smart enough to code my own demon summoning program to get that demon pussy. They can't keep getting away with it.

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>>176113743
it's weird if you're genuinely concerned about this. SMT is the niche series, and that's not a bad thing. We get to keep our elitist atitudes, while still enjoying the mainstream Persona shit when it's convenient. It's a win/win by all accounts.

>>176113743
This popularity contest has to stop.

>>176114186
>13 phase boss fight
shit sounds like it's from a parody of JRPGs
What were they thinking?

>>176115148
numalePolaris (aka Yaldabaoth) bossfight is longer than Nyx's one though.

>>176115148
>persona does safe sections with no combat
What is this casual shit true megaten games have no rest between the action.
>persona does a long combat section
It's like a parody of JRPGs, what were they thinking?

>>176115148
I think I actually put my controller down after like the 7th form and came back an hour later to finish it.
That was beyond tedious

>talk to a demon in SMT4
>gave me a quest to kill Wukong

uh

does this effect alignment?

>>176109804
>All of them ooze personality
That's a funny way of saying "they only have their one gimmick and that's it"

>>176113743
Persona is slowly becoming like SMT, gameplay-wise. It's only a matter of time before Persona gets PRESS TURNED right in front of its waifu.

>>176115375
No way. P5's final boss is over super quickly, it's like half the fight is fucking missing.

Pascal best dog

>>176117017
I don't think so. Press Turn by itself isn't that important, but with One More it's lot easier to knock out enemy group, as most groups are homogeneous and thus one party member can more likely knock them all down.
And All-Out-Attacks are nice way to shorten random encounters and a example of the team working up together as team, which is big difference from mainline where party is main character, maybe one friend and bunch of slaves.

>>176117291
Slaves? They're all friends actually I feel a bond with them each time they level up and try not to part with them but instead fuse them

>>176117385
Every demon is fusion fodder the moment it's born and only reason it's not being fused right now is that by waiting a while I can get something more useful out of it.

Finally beat Megami Tensei 1 in Kyuuyaku! For how bullshit hard it was at times it's surprisingly short. Onto MT2.

>beat Minotaur at start of Megami Tensei 2 in Devil Busters after buying best armor and recruiting a carbuncle
>get orb of silence
>give to statue
>Pazuzu pops out, tells me I'm the saviour of the world
And I thought Persona 4 was wish fulfillment.

Incidentally, is the music that plays while Pazuzu tells you about you being a messiah reused anywhere else in the series? The melody seems really familiar for some reason.

>>176117485
STOP DEMON ABUSE
#DEMONLIVESMATTER

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What was his fucking problem?

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Hee Hoy fags.
Drink coffhee.

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>>176119945
>Akira
lol canonfags.

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Will we ever get better Demon designs than what Kaneko gave us in SMT II?

>>176119945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T1xjuGBq80

>>176120252
My wife Syaro is so cute.

>>176116258
No, it doesn't, very few of them do

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>>176120508

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>Sexy cat lady drops in
>Can't talk to her
Fug

>>176120645
Lisa did drugs and fucked old men.

>>176120694
you say that like its a bad thing?

>>176120658
Demi has gyno.

>>176120694
Ain't it great?

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>>176120771
>>176120856

>>176120658
Old Nekomata was better.
No pants.

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>>176120898
>being a loli faggot

>Raidou's map icon has his hat
CUTE

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>>176119742
>BR
>pancake ass

Send me cute Moh Shuvuu

>>176121695
Fuck off fujo.

>>176122414
t. Bunda de gaveta

>>176122550
Take that back, my ass is great.

>>176122596
Pics or GTFO

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>>176122696

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>Wake up
>/smtg/ has gone through a thread in less than a day
This is different

>>176122896
I warned you about those Personachads bro.

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>>176122741
I stand corrected.

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>>176122376

>>176123003
How can we even compete?

>>176123018
No you don't, shut up.

Two questions about Nocturne: if I go for 100% Compendium should I do it first cycle or on a later one? I am doing TDE.

And if I fuse Daisoujou at level 40ish can I refuse a better one later or are there as many Deathstones as there are Fiends? I don't want to lock myself out of a new Fiend just to have a better Daisoujou later on.

>>176109594
Literally the best Persona girl
+cute ponytail
+knows about demons and mythology and shit
+successful model
+speaks English
+wealthy
-Develops a bowl cut

>>176123308
Too late!

What if I stream Debisama

>>176123635
>-Develops a bowl cut
Eh, I think it looks nice on her. The ponytail is better though.

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Why didn't they make a DMC outfit pack for Persona 5? I want to listen to Taste the Blood while it's whooping ass time.

>tfw SMTV won't feature Dante as the Chaos Rep and Bayonetta as the law rep

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How in the fuck do I beat this piece of shit?

He spams Blight which almost wipes my party and he spams mamudo which almost always kills Flynn. It's fucking infuriating.

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Oh wow Io doesn't fuck around.

Whats the theme that plays in the Rog rants against casuals video? When Rog is insulting tyrone? I really like it so

>>176125156
Battle b1.

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>>176125031
Nigga did you just fucking bumrush Daichi?

>>176123130
Good work men, we can go home now

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>>176125267
Maybe

>>176107918
Is he cia?

>>176126226
No, he's Law.

Anyone here played the second playthrough of vanilla nocturne? How hard is it compared to maniax hard mode?

>>176126858
Why would anyone play vanilla Nocturne?

>>176126949
You aren't a true magoomi tengay fan unless you play everything including ronde.

>>176126858
Maniax/Nocturne Hard Mode is easier than vanilla SMT3 if you disregard all the extra content.
Dunno just how silly NG+ gets though, I don't even know what exactly it changes, just that it's supposed to be its hard mode. I played through vanilla once, Nocturne like 6 or 7 times, Chronicles once, and halfway through the shitty hardtype hack until I kept getting crashes and decided to wait for an update to it, and have never actually done any NG+ in any of them. I haven't even watched the extra press turn cutscene with Izanagi, only ever read about it. Doing NG+ in that game just feels wrong, it's like, why even bother? First person mode is cool but not having any fusion limitations doesn't sound very fun

>>176123860
Why not?

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>>176121060
Why does law have the best girls?
>clothes inspired by PS1 redraw heroine but better colour schemes
>cute
>useful skills
>forgiving despite a dude mortally wounding her
>dies early then soul dissapears 40hrs later in demon realm
Fuck life.

>>176128661
Because I have a full work week and my desktop's GPU still needs a replacement

I'd like to stream the PSP version though

>>176127016
>playing a Kusoge

>Amane joins you on Naoyo's route
>That MAG stat
Jesus fuck, is she worth using despite the 3 movement?

I wish my dog was as cool as Pascal.

>>176130996
Of course

So I'm nearing the end of Strange Journey

I was pretty much just told what's gonna happen at the end of chaos and law routes

They both seem pretty damn awful. Fortunately, I am neutral though.

Are there any SMT games where chaos and law aren't objectively awful?

>>176131707
II

>>176131707
Law in SJ is awful

But Chaos in SJ is fine. Are you dumb, or...?

Also in DeSu OC all routes end up good so there's that

>>176131707
SMT II has pretty good Law and Chaos routes, DeSu 1 has a great Law route.

>>176131942
Does OC let me punch Naoya's smug little bitch face in more?

>>176131770
Everyone gets fucked in the end of SMT 2, no matter what route.

>>176131942
>fine

I don't consider a demon hellworld to be fine. Considering the demons that actually want to co-exist with humans seem to be the weakest of them all, and few in number anyways.

Like, I ain't convinced demons and humans are gonna be singing campfire songs. It's survival of the fittest and humans seem to be the bottom of the food chain in that scenario.

>>176131942
>But Chaos in SJ is fine. Are you dumb, or...?
Just because you'd like your rectal cavities be filled with some Mara, it doesn't mean everyone is into the idea.

>>176132558
Ah, but it's fine to take God's dick up your ass, then? Fuck off degenerate lawfag I don't subscribe to your degenerate homosexual fantasies, I'm my own man

>>176132548
>humanity at the bottom of the food chain
I would agree but Muhreen and a lot of soldiers on the Red Sprite proved that humans, or at least the strongest of humans and the ones that really matter, are able to subjugate demons. If you're a fat fuck who sits in front of a computer screen for hours on end I can see why the option wouldn't be appealing, must not be 'comfy' enough, but humanity deserved to be knocked down a peg for creating the Schwarzwelt in the first place. It's not like Neutral even has a permanent solution to the Schwarzwelt, anyway.

>>176131707
What's bad about law in SJ?

>>176133357
Oh look at this alpha man, who could totally take on demons that both had a good track record against professional armed and geared for situation soldiers, and were invisible for naked eye.

>>176133531
The "let's brainwash everyone to be mindless servant of God" -part, I'd guess.

>>176133357
Law is crap in sj as well. Chaos is almost as crap.
>if you lift yoy can totes take on asura
Only reason why they were able to take on demons was the demonica in the first place. If a some one who is fit would get fucked. Neutral is the only choice.

>>176133357
Are you that autistic guy who was triggered over /smtg/ being full of fat chicks loving fetishists

>>176133925
Better than being ridden with Islam and /pol/

>>176133357
*tips fedora*

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>>176133925
>/smtg/ being full of fat chicks loving fetishists

>>176133608
I'm not saying I could take on demons though I'd have a better chance than your fatass. If I would die in that scenario, then so be it, there are people stronger or smarter than me that will pass their genes down. Why are you so for stagnancy and boredom?

It's not like Lucy and Mem Aleph want humanity to be wiped out, in any case, they just want humanity to not be made up of shitty people that hold the race back from actual greatness.

>>176133693
Then just mass produce Demonicas or the technology behind one and if you can't get one, so be it.
>neutral is the only choice
In neutral, it's stated the Schwarzwelt will just continue to return. You can't just pick neutral forever.

After playing SJ, the easy way to "fix" alignments to me is maybe they shouldn't be so exaggerated.

Like maybe law shouldn't turn everyone into brainless husks, and maybe chaos shouldn't be a monstrous hellworld

>>176134302
>He was not around when /smtg/ listed their fetishes under their alignments
Failure as a human senpai

>>176134508
Maybe if you consider that demons with human like intelligence are people, then yes, some people stay alive and prosper in the chaos world, but it's still genocide for humans.

And I'm all for life, I want to live and I want as many other human beings to live as well. Demons can live too, but they should do it on their own demon dimension.

>>176134509
Neutral bias is part of MegaTen's identity.

>>176134795
You do remember what Mem Aleph says, right? If human souls become beautiful, then demons become beautiful. If a bunch of horrible, shitty and weak people, or people who don't know they're horrible, shitty, and weak, have to die to create a beautiful world, I'm all for it. Life for the sake of life helps nobody, not humans or demons. You call the chaos route genocide, but humans already are genociding themselves by destroying the planet.

>>176135093
It's also really boring. It's basically having two bad endings and then one secret, less bad ending that you most likely need walk through or lots of luck to get.

>>176134509
Considering that the exploration team was still fully operational in the law route calling them brainless husks is an exaggeration also the team says in the chaos path that logic is law and now that it's out of the way they can be creative or whatever.

>>176135192
The only game that's really like that is 4, and chaos route is already pretty good in that game.

Law is always shit, so 1/4th of your post is correct

>>176135093
I dunno, being presented with choices when only one leads to anything resembling a positive outcome is kinda shitty.

>>176134508
And yet, chaos will inevitably lead to the same conclusion as well, wouldn't it? It was stated the world WAS like that at some point in it's past. The same thing will happen again.

>>176135492
>being presented with choices when only one leads to anything resembling a positive outcome is kinda shitty.
That's just how life is, following misguided ideals might very well make the world a shittier place.

>>176135705
Bitch I'm playing a fucking video game, I don't give a rats ass about life

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When the fuck is Atlus going to port SMT1 and 2 to everything in english? SMTIV would also be nice since I can't be assed to play on 3DS anymore.

>Mu-muh human superiority
Give me one reason why demons and angels aren't superior to human neutrals

>>176135926
Because we are humans and therefore we must make a boring human-centric story.

>>176135926
Well if I go down the neutral path, all the demons and angels get fucked up

Might makes right, isn't that the demon way?

Guess they should've been stronger

>>176135926
Demons are like edgy libertarians who are fine with exploiting anyone for personal gain. Angels are nazis who perform genocide to achieve their vision of "paradise".

>>176136137
>genociding human it's bad mmmkay
>genociding demons it's perfectly fine tho
proceed

>>176136454
yeah, sure

they started shit, so they get what's coming to them

>>176136454
I'm fine with killing someone if it's in self-defence.

>>176136579
Most of the time the angels and the humans are the ones who start it though

>>176136454
Most neutral endings don't get rid of all demons though

>>176135448
SJ, also Nocturne isn't Law/Netural/Chaos, but it still has one worthwhile ending in sea of shitty ones.

>>176136812
Freedom's alright

>steal earth from demons
>create the schwartz to their own incompetence and how shitty they treat the planet
>nuke demons
>lol is their fault in the first place
Humans not even once

tokyo people is asian, why The Eastern Kingdom of Mikado people is european?

>>176136579
How did demons 'start shit'?

They're born from human desires. The fact that so many humans tend to have really shitty and warped desires means that demons tend to be really shitty and warped

If anything since demons are so bad humanity needs to be genocided to make both humans and demons better. Get rid of all the bad apples and you have something beautiful. Why do both lawfags and neutralfags ignore this?

>>176137576
They are mixed race bruh is in the artbook

>demon apologists
4chan is a human/bee imageboard please go back to hell

Why does't the tips and tricks guide have the music patch?

>>176137907
that's not a tip or a trick

>>176137598
Because I don't care about demons

I want to play video games

Can't do that in the law or chaos route

humans: trying to live life
demons: I WILL DRINK YOUR BLOOD FROM THIS CHALICE, YOU ARE THE REAL MONSTERS

yeah okay pal

>>176138026
it's still rather useful tbqwu fam

Metatron is killing all my motivation to play Devil Survivor

>>176137225
w-we wuz deamun lordz n shit

>>176137225
If the demons were right, they would've won

>>176138287
>trying to live life
In the most self-destructive way possible, such heroes

>>176138287
more like:

humans: try to live shitty, boring, degenerate life that gives way to all sorts of evil desires and thus births demons
demons: well I mean i was born into this world because some faggots don't know how to live their lives properly so i guess i should change it for them

humans: 0, demons: 1

>>176140139
none of the demons ever make a compelling argument, they just want to kill humans for no reason

Like, show a demon that actually has intelligence above "DURR MURDER HUMAN"

Hell, most demons have no idea why they even exist

>>176137576
all the eggs landed there

I wish SMT4 told me that my DDS demon would get fused into something else.

>>176140439
>show a demon that actually has intelligence above "DURR MURDER HUMAN"
lucifer

wow that was hard

>most demons have no idea why they even exist
They know they exist due to human desires and act according to that desire. If those desires are shitty, as so many are, then the demons end up being shitty. And even then demons show that they want to change the world so that it's not full of faggot humans

>>176140628
>lucifer
>hey man wouldn't it be great if earth reverted to a complete hellworld where demons just ate humans all day and no one was even remotely happy at any time and everyone lived in constant fear of being ravaged by eldritch horrors
>this is for the best, I swear

>>176140628
>demons come to tokyo
>first thing they do is murder a girl in a park
>then try to create super soldiers by experimenting
>kill some dude shopping
>murder an innocent mum
Maybe Lucifer should make his demons have more self restraint to make a good first impression?

>>176138287
Demons are the heroes! They're defending the Earth!

It's the Hero's job to punish villains!

>>176140831
Lucifer has stated countless times that he doesn't like humans but he's not going to let them die if he wins, and he legitimately wants the best for them by beating up all the YHVHs and the Great Will.

>earth reverted to a complete hellworld
Not even remotely true. If Lucifer got rid of all the bad and weak people, with all the good people remaining, then the demons wouldn't be Geiger rejects or Eldritch monsters. They'd reflect humanity's new, good virtues.

>>176140847
Well those humans were weak and deserved to be removed. Might makes right, faggot, that mom should have pumped some weights or done some cardio instead of caring about her loser loner son haha

>>176141281
If there were no weak people, there would be no good virtues.

Weak people dying off would lead to the humans alive feeling smug, elitist, and arrogant.

It would make the demons even worse

>>176141281
I mean, hell toyko in SMTIV shows otherwise chaos-kun

Chaos has like 1 good ending.

Chaos and Law are a bunch of fedora wearing edgelord faggots that can barely function in real life. They never tell people what they really think because they know it would ostracize them even more than they already are. They buy into ideologies because it's they only way they feel accepted.

Meanwhile, neutral people can see things objectively, for how they really are, and don't buy into any stupid ideologies.

I hope in SMTV the ailigment reps don't fucking fuse with whatever demon. Removes alot of emotional weight desu

>>176141806
Its funnier to shitpost as chaos/law though.

>Boot up Apocalypse
>Both your mentors get slaughtered form the get go

ha ha

>>176141281
>Well those humans were weak and deserved to be removed
>jumping a guy means you're strong

My first time seeing a live chaos fag, truly a magical time we're in

>>176141459
>if there were no weak people, there would be no good virtues
The fuck does this mean? If you remove all the shit from the world then there will be no shit left.

>smug, elitist, arrogant
...over what? being alive? now you're just fishing for conclusions with your retarded headcanon

>>176141643
hell tokyo is great in 4. if you have a big enough set of testicles you get to do whatever you want, even if you're human. the fact that the majority of humans became weak little sissies means that they're unfit to lord over anything, which is fine.

i wonder if all neutralfags/lawfags are closet cucks that don't like us bulls, the chaosfags, coming in and taking what we deserve

>>176141806
>it's a "neutralfag enjoys his shitty, stagnant world of suffering and parades it to others" episode
yeah ok buddy, haha, its nice to fling shit at your strawmen, but us chaoschads are building our ranks. but its fine, just keep deluding yourself

>>176142892
see, now your shitposting is too obvious and it's not fun anymore

I'm out

>>176143081
>r-reee reeee all chaosfags are shitposters h-haha i'll go easy on you n-next time kid
this is you.

>>176143184
>I'm a huge neckbeard that can barely function in society, but I buy into extremist might makes right and survival of the fittest mentalities, and also delude myself into thinking society in general is corrupt in order to make myself feel better
this is you

>chaosfags win again
Who could have predicted this?

pretty much everybody desu. neutralfags and lawfags are bottom of the shit barrel t b h

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>>176143673
You say it like it's not obvious

>>176143673
Even lawfags are better than neutralfags.

>>176143629
Well now you're just making assumption after assumption here. I could say that I'm relatively well liked by others and function very well in social settings, but I suppose your utter hatred for what I think would make you always disbelieve me, yes? The only sort of people that endorse might makes right are the people who have might to begin with. Even idiots know deep down that they wouldn't 'come into possession of power' in a might makes right society if they didn't possess anything beforehand.

It is true I have to hide the way I think about the world, but I've always believed in survival of the fittest and that the truly strong should have their way and have worked to try and reach that even before playing SMT. And if you don't think society isn't corrupt, well, I think one of us is deluded, and it's certainly not me.

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>Matador killed half my part right before I got the exp
Dodging asshole.

>>176144390
>My ENTIRE race should get fucked and turned into drinks because we so happen to not be literally gods of war

If you un-ironicly believe this you need to kill yourself.

here I am living in the world of chaos ha ha such a a paradise just earlier today fifty demons came by and gangraped my wife and turned her into a concubine for the local demon lord what a wonderful world last week my friend got eaten by I don't even know what I couldn't even comprehend it's existence and his screams transcended all of physical existence man what a magical place this is just the best I could not be happier I have to live my life entirely in hiding now and I eat scraps because how could a humanly possibly fight supernatural demons man this is the best I am so glad I have made nothing but the best decisions

>>176144516
Same thing happend to me but I got lucky with a crit lounge. Why did you cut off half the screen?

>>176144390
>am going to study hard to become a docter so I will have no time to improve my self physically.
>demons come and kill everyone
>heh serves you right fag
There is no way humans can, unless they have some bullshit, can defeat demons right? Why openly invite such a hostile race to your own planet in the vain hopes YOU can get stronk? Fucking idiot.

>playing kmt 1
>find some room
>it's empty
>"smells like death"
>w/e
>go back into it later on
>some dude teleports me somewhere
>what follows is simulated gangrape
thanks game

>>176144554
No, I want my race to be proud of who they are and truly great, not held back because of leeches and horrible people. What's wrong with this mentality? Is it because you're one of those leeches and horrible people and you're afraid you might get axed off to make society as a whole better?

>>176144743
>Why did you cut off half the screen?
Because I don't want anyone to see my generic name.

>>176144779
Its wrong becuase there is no fucking way your average human can take on Ares, the god of war. Or Asura, or any non base level demon you moron. Yes fuck Leeches and horrible people but the answer is not open the gates of hell and hope everything gets fixed you shitposter.
>I want my race to be fucking cattle to our demon overlords
Lucifer is that you?

>>176144779
wanting humanity to improve and wanting demons to gangrape humanity are two completely different ideas that cannot be married together at all

>>176117091
Play on Hard without overpowered special fusions, puss.

>>176144936
>>176144743
Okay, I was talking about the real world in >>176144779 and >>176144390, but okay, we can talk SMT too.

>>176144743
Demons are not 'actively hostile', they are reflections of human desires. Once all the weak people get axed off, human desires won't be quite as shitty, and demons won't be so bad. Mem Aleph, Lucifer, and several other chaos reps state this multiple times throughout the series.

>>176144936
Your average human is going to either get killed or grow stronger. If they accidentally take on Ares early and get fucked, too bad. If they get progressively stronger by taking on low tier shit and working their way up then there you go.

>>176144681
If you weren't strong enough to beat fifty demons then you don't deserve your wife. And by the way
>wife
Yeah buddy in a true world of chaos I wouldn't want to be tied to one woman like some fucking beta. Do you even understand the principles of a world of strength? Of course not, you're a retarded falseflagger

>>176145665
How can humanity get stronger if we would die after one encounter with a God of War?

I am convinced you are a shitposter.

It's hell Tokyo in smtiv only three week humans exist and even then demons are assholes. So your claim if all evil humans die only good demons exist is dumb. And that is not how demons are made. They are made from our perception. If we think the dark holds spooky stuff, then spooky demons come to existence and it had nothing to do with our virtues. Also you are one of those evil people you like to go on about. "Then weak should die " a docter who can save a bunch of lives would be the first on the copping block becuase he did not waste his times on the vein effort to get stronk on the off chance ares comes. We lost a valuable human being for your dumb as fuck idea. Kill your self.

If all of humanity was on the level of demifiend, I could maybe understand this logic

But even the strongest human probably couldn't even fight a pixie without the techno bullshit, which always seems conveniently of limited quantity.

go to bed ayn rand

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>>176109804
>>176109927

I miss my slightly insane waify

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>>176131707
Law in SJ is God's will, anon. You need to embrace it.

>>176146142
Are you dumb? I said, if a human runs into Ares and isn't strong enough to face him, then they'll die, and that's fine, the weak deserve to be weeded out. But if they are strong enough to beat him, because they've built up their strength by taking on lesser demons, and they win, then they deserve their victory fully and humanity as a whole becomes stronger.

Demons aren't assholes in Infernal Tokyo, if anything, they have a set hierarchy that keeps order extremely well, unlike in 4's regular world where demons are going fucking berserk to the point where the yakuza has to keep them down and people live in shitty underground districts and 4's law world where humanity is almost nearly gone.

I mean, if you think I'm evil, then in a world of chaos you're free to stop me. But in a world of neutrality or law, you can't, you have to abide by the rules and hope an authority figure does it or, even worse, accept who I am because we'll all be brainwashed slaves. And come on, doctors who save lives should also understand that their life is worth saving and will have to go the same route as everyone else.

>megami tensei II has a demon based on jason voorhees
they should totally make him a boss some day

>>176146536
Then the people who get the 'techno bullshit' will survive and make more and the people who don't will die. Survival of the fittest and smartest. Try again.

>>176146837
post your address, shouldn't be a problem if you're strong enough

>>176147071
Strong enough for what? Gay sex? fuck off degenerate lawfag

>>176147363
we'll let nature do its thing and see if you would survive in a might makes right world, come on, post it

>>176147019
That's not fittest or smartest at all

That's just luckiest

>>176147493
>wrestling with a fat neckbeard lawfag
No thanks

do resistances stack? e.g. a demon with natural ice resist + an ice resist skill

>>176146837
What really bothered me in SMT4 is Walter and Kuebiko whining if you choose to kill him and take the area for humans, it's a clear display of survival of the fittest but you get Law points for doing it and Chaos for sparing Kuebiko

Chaos has some good points but too often it's about being a bitch for demons and that's why I prefer neutral, but especially Dagda's idea of neutral

>>176147585
muh darwinism shitheads are all talk, try living the life you preach for 1 day and see what happens

>>176147726
No.

>>176147019
Survival of the fittest implies evolutionary thinking, but I really want to see your balls (in totally scientific and non gay way) to see how you use them to pass guns, demonicas, and other technology to your offspring.

Why people acts as if humans were the underdogs? Megaten has showed many times that all a human needs to succeed is a gun and a sword and with that they can even kill the avatars of the great will and miscellaneous gods and demons.

They don't even need to be a messiah or a half-demon and many can't even use magic, all it takes is determination and the balls to defy the divine and otherwordly

>>176150231
Don't forget google glass and some kind of wearable computer and the whole fucking Demon Summoning Program business.

Even with "lol just have a gun", it's 99% of humanity dead instantly and rest after a while when bullets and food are not made with magic.

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>playing nocturne for the first time on hard
>thor kicking my ass up down and all around
>tfw just fused an oni with anti-nerve and focus
time for some payback

Any estimations how long would it take to do a neutral run of SMT IV with NG+ file?

I've been thinking of doing that for a while and I know I want to do that before I even think about getting Apocalypse.

>>176150925
You can blast through NG+ in 15-20 hours.

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3299/

Should I use this on my first playthrough if I'm a challengefag? Or is hard mode in the regular game difficult enough?

>>176150643

That would be the case, if the only demons in the world were overpowered literally god tier demons like Mara or even just Oberon level.

Just like how there's humans who will need some training (like most heroes do as several started as average guys), many members of the demon and angel hordes are lesser beings of their clans, the kind you usually see near human settlements and that a teen starting his journey with improvised melee weapons can beat into submission.

And well, it is not uncommon to find humans that somehow live in areas with mid-tier and even high tier demons despite humanity is "so weak", so it's not like only the one who becomes a hero is the only one who can do shit against demons, and those human settlements strangely located in mid tier demon territories have no issues surviving or having enough supplies to survive and even thrive.

Also, Raidou Kuzunoha proves that sufficiently trained enough humans don't even need technology to interact withdemons

Is going 1:1 with str and luck in SMT4 a terrible idea? Should I only just be focusing on one of them?

>>176151997
What's your experience with SMT?

Space Marine is canonically the weakest protagonist on mainline.

>>176153612
Isn't going str over dex bad idea anyways in SMT 4?

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>>176150862
FUCK YOU THOR AHAHAHA

>>176153696
Weaker than the fucking dweep of a hero in SMT 1?

>>176121350
>map icon in Persona 5 has his glasses

>>176153895
Yes

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Why is Thor so based?

>>176153656
Only P5 and SMTIV.

Its just that I've just heard that the game drops off a lot in difficulty after the first few parts of the game and I would rather it stay difficult throughout.

>>176154069
That's only Hard Mode. Nocturne do a fairly good job at keeping the difficulty

>>176154052
>Nukes Tokyo
>Bashes your faggot friend with his hammer
>Respects your strength if you beat him in a duel
Based as fuck

>>176154052
>>176154258
Legit the most satisfied Ive felt beating a boss

>>176153895
>>176154029
Well shit

Is STR bad enough that I should just start pumping points into Dex from now on? I'm at 44 STR and 17 Dex right now. First SMT game so I have no idea what I'm doing fellas.

>>176154603
Str is bugged in IV in that skills doesn't scale with it

>>176154603
You'd normally be fine pumping STR in an SMT game, IV just has weird stats. In IV, STR increases weapon damage, DEX increases gun damage, and both increase physical skill damage, but DEX increases it more, for some reason. So the only reason to go STR over DEX is if you want to just spam the basic attack.

>>176154798
Btw, did they change how that works in Apo, or is it still fucked there?

>>176154935
It's fixed

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I haven't followed DSJ news but their keeping the shitty co-op attack instead of adapting the game to IVA engine?

>>176111157
>bef-ho-re
trying too hard, there

>>176115614
just because a boss takes a lot of time to kill doesn't make it difficult

>>176155295
Seems like it

I hope it gets revamped at least

>>176155295
I assume it's Minimal Effort Required type remake.
Thus all mechanics, maps and such that can be kept like original, will be kept like original.

Its time to finally settle the debate which has divided this general for far too long.

Which is objectively superior: Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne or Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey?

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>>176157021
Both are shit
Persona 5 is Atlus's magnum opus

>>176157021
Jack Bros

>>176157021
Nocturne has better combat, that's it. SJ is the better SMT game

>>176156304
Doesn't seem like it, the screenshot says "neutral level 2 co-op activated" which is exactly the same as SJ.

>>176156653
I'll be pretty disappointed if thats the case. I was really looking forward to SJ with IV's gameplay. SJ while fun got stale pretty quickly when your just spamming co-op attacks.

>>176157169
And better music. And better atmosphere. And better bosses. And better-well, pretty much everything, sweetie.

>>176157324
Even for a moment assuming that they would redo and rebalance the whole game is way silly.

>>176157169
Oh please, Nocturne is the first mainline game that ventured outside of the stale law/chaos/neutral formula and because of that its not a SMT game for you? You people bitch about Persona being stale with the school aspects but you'll happily eat up the mainline recycling the same story for 25 years.

>>176157406
Better music sure, but the dungeons in nocturne are awful. Nothing else matters when a core component of the game is weak as hell in comparison.

>>176157021
I know it's the boring answer but they're too different to compare that easily.

>>176157529
come on strange journey has a pretty unique setting

>>176157021

Nocturne, all it lacks is a better skill inheritance system

>>176157529
At least mainline has story. Nocturne doesn't have shit.
Also most of Nocturnes dungeon design is areas made out of colored boxes.

SJ isn't the greatest on story side, but at least it tries to have characters that move along the story. Also some actual significant old school dungeoneering.

Anything Nocturne does well has been done as well or better elsewhere. Press Turn system is in DDS, (also 4, but fuck smirk), Demon Fusion is better pretty much everywhere. And SMT games overall generally have good atmosphere and music that's not something special in this competition.

SJ is overall good on average. Nocturne has higher highs, but also way way lower lows. And I take consistency over roller coaster any day.

>>176157021
Strange Journey.
Nocturnebabies btfo as always.

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>>176157021
>linkin park simulator vs forma hunters 2009
Neither

>>176154798
>>176154891
Wowee.

So would it be better if I just become a straight up Luck build at this point then? Or can I just start putting points into DEX and keep my 1:1 build type thing going?

>>176159305
I'd say just switch from STR to DEX

>>176157883
>expect polar expedition adventure with Mountains of Madness demonic twist
>receive one shitty icy cave and dozens of random-ass dungeons that had nothing to do with antarctic setting
fucking disappointing

>>176159558
>get to explore some twisted, fucked up world maintained by powerful demons that are beyond human comprehension instead
wow thats a really bad tradeoff. man, fuck atlus for giving us the short end of the stick!

>>176159812
>beyond human comprehension

I dunno, it seemed like they had a good handle on them, considering they shot them all in the face

Also "fucked up world" doesn't have a whole lot going for it when it's made up of 32 x 32 textures

>>176159558
I thought the setting was rad.

You can't really have something like At the Mountains of Madness for a normal video game because the fact that you fight back at all defeats the purpose.

Are there any demons < level 21 in Nocturne that learn any kind of mana refill? Just got to Ikebukuro and I'm desperate for something to recharge mana so I can journey out longer.

>>176159812
dungeons and overall setting of SJ is just hotchpotch of random designs with no logical connection between them
it's a pure fucking laziness from the game design standpoint
wasted potential of awesome antarctic theme and sci-fi setting
leave the fucking supermarket to Tokyo

>>176160791
Get something with Life Drain and Makatora. I think some Fouls learn Life Drain. Have them use Life Drain every turn and after battle Makatora all but 30~ of their mana to other party members.

>>176160850
>no logical connection between them
except for the fact that each of the sectors had to deal with one aspect of how humans are ruining the planet.

>wasted potential of awesome antarctic theme and sci-fi theme
The sci-fi is fucking there, what more do you want? and antarctic? what, you wanted the game to be one giant ice area?

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>>176159216
kek

>>176158331
I would rather a game not have a story then have it waste my time with a mediocre one

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>>176108779
It was alright
Flynn's got the goofiest run cycle imo
At least Nanashi's got a pretty good one to make up for it

>>176123549
First cycle is fine
Just make sure not to recruit Dante until you've gotten every other demon at some point
Yes you can get more Deathstones later.
I'm pretty sure you can buy them But I don't remember which kalpa the vendor is in.

>>176124724
Get demons that resist phys or have Draconic/beastly reaction to dodge
Use armor that resists dark
There are probably earrings for it.

Also get lucky, that part is important.

Imagine how toned and supple High Pixie's body must be.

>>176161094
>what, you wanted the game to be one giant ice area?
yes

>>176162249
Titania and Pixie are better than High Pixie

>>176162249
>Not preferring the slight pudge of pixies body
shame anon, though I can see where you're coming from.

>>176162249
>high pixie
>weird nipples
>bulldyke hair
>retarded pose
>slim but chunky form
disgusting. I don't even know anybody who fuses up a high pixie willingly. maybe in 4 and apoc to get alice, that's about it

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>>176138782

Caroline was the best part of Persona 5.

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>>176162721
I think you mean Justine

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>>176157021
I liked Strange Journey. When people pitched it to me as a sci-fi flavored SMT, I knew I had to give it a shot. CUz it sounds cool, you know?

About 60 hours later I remembered that I don't care for sci-fi shit, like, at all.

But I still like Strange Journey. Just not as much as Nocturne.

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>>176162560
I'd be willing to bet he meant the High Pixie from the Raidou games instead of 'That' High Pixie

>>176163442
High Pixie is just Pixie in a yukata

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SMT X JoJo.

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>>176163697
W-What?!

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fuck y'all

>>176163442

Best pixie, best high pixie, best fairy.

I just beat apocalypse and now I'm giving IV another play through, the story is IV is so much better than apocalypse holy shit. Man though, the beginning is way harder than apocalypse.

>>176164651
I'm not proud of it, but I wud fug this demon.

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>>176164651
I don't hate her or anything but Pixie

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I started DDS the other day. I'm 7 hours in. When this game get good?

>P1 is about stopping the outbreak of evil creatures that threaten humanity, where the protagonist must learn of a special spiritual power exclusive to few by way of a mystical mentor
>P3 has you battling different aspects of the arcana
>P4 is about a bunch of kids solving a series of murders in a small town
>P5 is about a bunch of 'criminals' who mean well
P2 is the only one that's not an allegory to Jojo in terms of overarching plot.

So P6 will have a female protagonist and a focus on prison, then?

>>176165337
Persona 2 has Nazis

>>176165337
shit, that would be pretty cool, not gonna lie

I would like it to move away from the school setting at least

Although it would kinda feel like it's rehashing P5's themes

>>176165494
He said overarching plot. No Jojo part is divided into 2 storyline with 2 protagonists who's a side character in the other

>>176165337
>P1 is about stopping the outbreak of evil creatures that threaten humanity, where the protagonist must learn of a special spiritual power exclusive to few by way of a mystical mentor

I feel like you're really stretching with this one, but yeah.

>>176165783
I mean, Persona really doesn't try to hide it's Jojo inspiration

It's only gotten more blatant as time goes on. Like how in P5, all of the personas stand behind the characters, in the same way that stands from Jojo do