/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

>>176061189
>acts of crueility are justified if its just a misunderstanding

No fuck them. If they had gone through with it, they would have been cold blooded murderers, and in the real world, you can't just say "oh I thought s/he was a criminal or whatever. You ass is sent to prison. Or worse the chair.

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Vote for best mainline game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
Vote for best spinoff game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12100304

Go to the church and ask him him to fuck you

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oni chaning

>>176061782
>P3/4/5 best spin off

Which one of you faggots posted this on reddit?

>>176061782
no mt2 no vote

>>176061907
There's no need to be upset.

the angels were gonna do exactly what Keisuke did if you didn't pull some love and friendship out of your asshole
Amane route needed a split like Naoya got, that shit was awful

why does SJ have so much grinding

Everything I want to do, I have to grind first

Want to fuse a new demon? Gotta grind. Need a demon source? Gotta grind. Need a particular ability to help with a boss? Time to grind. Need materials to make a certain item? Get to grinding

fuck me

This is my first mainline SMT, are the others like this? I don't think I've ever seen another RPG be so stingy with giving players money and items

>>176062192
Keisuke should've had his own route.
He's the only character I was behind 100% percent.

>>176062192
The Angels were only going to do it to truly despicable i.e rapists and stuff. Not like people who read manga like in IV or even Blasphemers like Noaya.

I want Law to be like in DeSu 1 getting real tired of Law being so god dam shit.

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This is the ideal male protagonist. You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like.
Who was the artist for Spiral Nemesis?

>tfw had a dream about fellating demifiend last night
>never had a gay inclination or thought in my life but have never had a girlfriend, though i like women
w-what do i do

>>176062267
>Want to fuse a new demon?
Shit is like this in Persona, if you want a demon you have to be that level the fuck is wrong with you?

but git gud I don't remember doing much grinding and as for it being your first Mainline its not a good choice desu. Try Nocturne or IV

>>176062423
This guy is right about everything he said

Is DEEP a remake or a retelling?

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>>176062462
>not even being the top

100% gay

>No damage was dealt!
How do I Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei?

>>176062585
get a better weapon

>>176062462
Use your faggot blood to summon Lucifer

MY DEMONS ARE A BIT DIFFERENT

>>176062573
Same game with an alternative and/or expanded route. There's also minimal gameplay changes(e.g you'll be able to save whenever in Deep, in the original we had save points).

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Is this a good name?

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What's the worst possible thing they could announce about SMT Switch that doesn't involve cancellation?

>>176063039
It's a pokemon crossover
Actually that'd be pretty neat.

>>176062991
>you'll be able to save anywhere
Not cool.

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So is Midoriya a good character that is ruined by a awful voice? Or just an awful character?

>>176062532
I'm like 50 hours in at the end of sector grus

The game isn't hard at all, I just hate that I never have any money

>>176063039
Meguro doing soundtrack for it.

>>176063158
Awful voice for awful girl, checks out.

>>176063259
When did we start hating Meguro?
I want Masuko back.
>>176063039
Smirk

>>176063039
Apocalypse spinoff
2d battles
smtiv demons back

>>176063039
Guest designs

>>176063158
Its kinda hilarious that original japanese VA of DeSu1 is just as bad as american dub desu.

>>176063353
>When did we start hating Meguro?
Some time around P1P/SJ/P4

P5 is alright though

>>176063353
>When did we start hating Meguro?
He didn't make anything worthful in a decade, wake the fuck up. I love pre-2008 Meguro, but now the man is lazy trash.

>>176063131
Yeah, teleports/traps won't mean anything when you can just save scum your way through them. Some people just don't like the idea of crawling in a dungeon crawler, I guess.

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I mean, was this that bad?

>>176063754
Yes, it's exactly as bad as everyone says it is

>>176063754
It kinda grown up on me on the fourth playthrough. It actually feels better than Doi redrawn version even.

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>>176063754
Yes. Can't even compare

>>176063039
Open World.
Social Links.

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What the fuck is her problem

>>176063574
I liked P5's OST. Honestly the first good thing he did and that's mostly because he's been doing shitty remixes and Jpop.

>have kept Cerberus with me ever since Valhalla was swallowed
>about to get to get through the final bosses
>I can fuse him to make a demon that will help me way more than he is right now
I'm sorry friend, but you must be fused.

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>DUDE LETS TAKE POLARIS AND FUSE HIM WITH OUMAGATSU AND GIVE HIM GAMEPLAY MECHANICS FROM HARI-HARA BOSSFIGHT AND REVEAL HIM IN SIMILAR MANNER AS NYX LMAO
>DUDE LETS COPY AND PASTE KAGUTSUCHI DESIGN FOR MEMENTOS NOBODY PLAYED NOCTURNE ANYWAY LMAO
>DUDE I DON'T WANT TO DIRECT PERSONA ANYMORE WHO GIVES A SHIT LMAO

This game is a definition of worthless shit. I can't believe people unironically praising it all over the place and calling it magnus opus of Hackshino. Did so-called ''''reviewers'''' ever played P3? What the actual fuck, this game is literally laziest amalgamation of every megaten game of Hashino.

>>176064784
Nobody is going to take you seriously with that tone.

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>>176064892
S-shut up, nerd.

>>176062423
That and they need to make Neutral's flaws more obvious.

>>176064974

I mean, I don't even disagree with your core argument but when you make that kind of post people are just going to double down on whatever stance they already had.

>>176064784
Mementos is better than Tartarus
At least the first 3 dungeons are great
Good presentation and polish
Slinks actually do shit
Writing has better pacing than P3
Best Meguro OST ever since DDS2

>>176063754
It's not bad per se. It's actually a decent design with a good color palette but it just simply doesn't fit Lucifer.

>>176065143
Well memed, kid.

>>176064784
>perfume bottle
>floating yellow bighead
>floating blue bighead
>disco ball
>edgy teen
>darkskinned six eyed angel dude
Why the dissonisance?

>>176065143
>Slinks actually do shit

Not actually a big fan of this desu. It makes using new party members a bit awkward in some cases because the game intends you to always have baton pass.

Also it makes people value links for their gameplay value over than just the writing when the game is already so piss easy I bet you could beat it just fine doing no non-party slinks at all.

>>176064784
Hashino has literally been ripping off Megaten games since Persona 3, my man

>>176064784
You assume reviewers are autistic as you are.

P3 garbage compared to P5, senpai

P5 is unironically one of the best JRPGs made.

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>>176065445
Because this would've been better.

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>hear that SMT IV gives a strong argument as to why chaos is horrible
>Yuriko does literally nothing wrong

>>176065481
>I hate good gameplay features

SMT fans in a nutshell

>>176065603
t. butthurt p5baby

>>176065604
that just looks like a garbage ass mech. not that what we got doesn't.

>>176065603
you do this in every thread. you are aware you have a general and a subreddit which eternally hum hashino's praises, yes?

>>176065551
Would you think P2's mechanics can carry into nu-Persona?

>>176065757
I played P3 just before P5 and the two don't even compare, man

Hell, P3 is a mediocre JRPG by itself. I honestly don't know how or why it got a following. Especially considering there's much better JRPGs in the same franchise, and the PS2 certainly wasn't lacking in good JRPGs.

>>176064784
You forgot that Holy Grail literally Kagutsuchi ripoff, it even uses the same attacks.

>>176065995
>how or why it got a following

Easiest dungeons crawling of PS2 JRPGs. Also Social sims man

>>176065738
where'd you hear that? IV unironically has one of the best chaos endings in the series, from the fact you get the best demons from it, hikaru and yuriko are hot, best bro walter, you get to liberate tokyo, all the faggot luxurors die, world of strength, isabeau actually dies for a legit reason other than "MUH MONGA REEEEEE", and you get to be a fucking king.

Apoc does shit all over chaos but that's fine since it shits all over law as well

>>176065853
That Xenoblade mecha's nice anon.
>>176065604
Oh right, I forgot, there was that horned gold guy sitting on the saucer

>>176065905
I fucking wish P2 mechanics carried into P3 forward since P3 is so fucking simplistic by comparison

>>176066234
I just realized that looks exactly like a Xenoblade mech and now i'm conflicted because i liked the mech designs in that game. well, a few, at least.

>>176066129
>easiest
More like boringest

Tartarus nearly put me in a coma. Honestly, if it wasn't for idiots saying how great the story is in P3, I would've dropped that game like less than 10 hours in.

How anyone can praise P3, let alone put it above any other Persona game, including P4, is beyond me.

It's story and characters are competent at best, but the combination of awful pacing and Tartarus makes it an absolute slog to get through.

>>176065756
How is that good? Why gate gameplay mechanics?

I like Hifumi but I don't think I should have to do her s-link to have a combat mechanic that should have been there from the start. It's kind of a double slap in P5 because in almost every case the ultimate personas are pretty heavily nerfed.

I do like that in P5 it's a lot more lenient so you can pick the dialogue choices you actually want (it helps that joker isn't kind of a cunt like MC so all his responses tend to range from smooth to normal.) But having s-links get rated in terms of gameplay usefulness goes against the point of having them and shits on the whole Fool's Journey thing.

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>>176066414

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Go back to /pg/

>>176061907
Name another spin off series that is as consistently as good as Persona 3/4/5

You literally can't.

>>176066587
DDS

>>176066418
You're not wrong in the case of what you get from Hifumi. I feel like that and baton pass should've been standard abilities.

However, most everything else just felt like a nice bonus. Like getting double money if you take enemies out in the first round of combat.

If it just gave you every ability from the start, it would be a bit overpowered.

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SMT V will be about Kamen Riders in post-apocalyptic Tokyo, screencap.

>>176066587
Devil Survivor
Devil Summoners
Digital Devil Saga

wow, that was difficult, almost got me there, anon!

>>176066371
That's because it is (Gold face in the west, right?).
Anon posted it because same name as a joke.

>>176066587
All except Devil Children

More like Persona is consistently mediocre desu

Why are all the spinoffs so much better than mainline?

>>176066702
Avatar Tuner game with Kamen Rider Avatars when?

>>176066702
No because you post the worst girl

>>176066587
Neo Persona is better than main line and this upsets /smtg/ deeply.

>>176066643
>>176066730
>DDS
>good

At least Persona has fucking demon fusions and 5 has negotiations. DDS is literally Final Fantasy with an SMT coat of paint.

>>176067069
This. Time to grow up and admit you lost, SMTfags lmao

>>176063241
You can sell some Forma for pretty high Macca. Try that maybe.

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>>176067215
>haha dude le ebin shitpost lmoa xd

>>176066587
Majin tensei
>>176066730
>DDS
>when the plot drops somewhat in two
>>176066702
>that slow realisation when no protag owns a sweet bike and traverses through Tokyo on that
20+ years.
>>176067004
More experimentation of settings really. Got SRPGs with cyberpunk or modern day, devil summoning detectives but in comfy non-nuked town, high school shit with grid based combat, Hindu Sentai, etc

>>176067403
jeez calm down haha

You SMTfags are a sensitive bunch aren't ya lol

>>176067215
>i-it's not good because it doesn't play like a reel SMT!
by that logic, p3 and p4 are barely smt games.

>admit you lost
haha whatever bro. I just like good games - if personacucks want to shell out big bucks so we true atlus chads can get game series known for quality without autistic normies shitting things up I'm fine with that

What early demons should I get in SMT1?
Starting to think playing this was a mistake.

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>>176067512
delete you fucking post right now motherfucker

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>>176067558
>autistic
>normie

>>176067558
>chads
>will eat anything from atlus with the mainline status and felate eachother
True chads are the Devil Summoner bros

>>176067596
I too would like SMT1 advice.
What's a solid way to divide points between the heros for a first playthrough?

>>176067558
P3 and P4 have fusion though, which is pretty much the main defining feature of the SMT series. DDS does not have fusion so it is by definition less of an actual SMT game than P3/4/5.

>>176067721
Final is hated here kid. Otherwise every mainline was good so far.

>>176063754

It would fit an alien who came to do shit. But it is awfully ill fitting for Lucy.

Is there really no shut the fuck up dagda option till the end

>>176067864
>Final is hated here kid

Not really.

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>>176068043

>>176063158
Good unit, bad character, awful voice

>>176064784

You are forgetting that everything Yaldabaot was a shameless imitation of what Nyarlathotep did in the original persona trilogy

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tfw fucking /v/ gets it but /smtg/ keeps denying reality baka

>>176066414
P2 IS is worse in that aspect. Better story and characters though

>>176067798
10 INT.
Focus on vit and str with some occassional agi/spd
>>176067596
If you reasonably dropped 10 INT you can get any really within the prison, anything really with healing or buffs would be fine.
You need at least 10 to negotiate with people.
>>176067864
>hated
Don't lie to me, even with the plot, a lot of you guys like the gameplay or at least one character.

>>176064784
it's not mishmash, it's homage!

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>>176068215
>not being a megatenfag

>>176068043
everything he says is right?

>>176068215
>rivals Jung
P1 and P2 duology is literally Jung

P3-5 is a high school student's interpretation of Jung

III > Strange Journey > IV:A > IV > I > II

>>176065756

I think they would work better as game mechanics automatically unlocked as the "plot" progresses or as sidequests actually related with what they unlock. I mean, why the fuck chilling with a kid or playing shogi would let the team carry more ammo, somehow let bullets pierce resistance, learn how to swap party members, how to escape in one turn and etc?

>>176068278
Forgot, as in raise int until it's at 10 points.
>>176068350
Why do that when you can just shitpost and act superior over things you like?

>>176067824
DDS has you actually fighting demons and not some gay ass edgy 12 year old deviantart user's designs, plus it actually has press turn. That's one point more for DDS being an SMT game than P3 or P4 - of course, P5 fixes this, but P5 is such a happy-go-lucky game with zero sense of atmosphere, and doesn't possess the same sort of focus on themes a real SMT games would have, instead opting for an even more watered down version of the Jungian stuff from P3 or P4.

>>176067721
True chads enjoy all Atlus has to offer and view it all with unbiased eyes. I like Devil Summoner as well as mainline or Devil Survivor, no need to fight.

>>176067713
You'd be surprised.

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>mainline is so deep
>persona sucks
>next game literally has mr potato head in it

How does it feel to be wrong, SMTfags?

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>>176068289

>>176068623
>press turn

Out of the mainline games only 3 has Press Turn (Nocturne, IV, Apocalypse).

>>176068679
It feels refreshing that I don't have the autism of someone browsing the /smtg/ thread and openly cocksucking everything persona related

>>176068679
Mods will fix it

>>176061782

>Mainline

oh shiiittttt this is actually hard.

I'm stuck between Nocturne and SMTIV:Final.

I don't really like any of the characters in Nocturne, but the way they were developed looped SUPER well into the story of the game, and its pretty fantastic.

SMTIV: Apocalypse is what SMTIV should've been.

THIS IS HARD YO.

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>>176068679
Get that busta out of my game

>>176068215
That's P1 and 2 though

How can I get Makatora on Daisoujou in Nocturne?

>>176069021
But IV is better than Apocalypse in pretty much every way other than gameplay

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>>176069907
You forgot better demon designs and affinities in fusion (a bit redundant but they are nice)

Doi fix up the design nicely enough

So are Nocturne and SJ actually still any good or are they both victims to aging like milk?

>>176070193
Nocturne has aged like wine.

>>176069907
>pretty much every way other than gameplay
And story. And characters. And music. And designs. And...hm, well, everything.

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Why is DeSu 2 so hard? Is it because I fell for the "STR is good in this game!" meme? DeSu 1 was piss easy but this game is fucking my ass.
>>176070193
Nocturne has aged like fine wine and SJ isn't even that old but it's still fine.

>>176070193
Random encounters are a pain in the ass

Aesthetic holds up well, but Nocturne's fusion is shit

What is with Demonic Gene, is it just a what if story?

Is there a way to see what route I'm on in SMT4?

>>176070270
IVA's story was garbage. Throwing everything in your face and making it easily as understandable as possible doesn't make it good, IV had a great fucking setting with a ton of depth to it and a story that was very tastefully done instead of them straight up stating what was going on at every possible junction.
IVA suffers severely from the same exact thing the modern Persona games have, they feel the need to go over the very basic story and twists a hundred times in endless exposition to make absolutely sure even the slowest retard that bought their game won't miss out on anything, meanwhile anyone with half a brain catches on in a tenth of that time and is bored shitless for most of the game

>>176070193
For anyone interested in SMT proper Nocturne is must play, but I wouldn't recommend it otherwise.
DDSes have similar dungeon dwelling and press turn combat, wrapped in better game and demon negotiation and fusion has been done better in other SMT games.
Though Nocturne looks pretty at times and has good OST, which you can listen on youtube while looking through an artbook.

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>Number of SMTIV bosses: 89
>Number of SMTIV:A bosses: 87
What went so wrong lads?

>>176070303
You actually need to go full AG and get multi-hit/multi-strike at the second you see it in the skill crack pool, then proceed to rape everything in sight. Also get the best party members (Fumi for Magic and Jungo for Phys and whatever you want as another magic user) and proceed to rape everything in sight.

>>176070303
I suck ass at srpgs and don't remember having any real issues with DeSu 2.

>>176071123
I'm playing IV right now and I definitely wouldn't say it doesn't state what's going on.

>>176071512
There is a lot more to it than what they tell you. Wait until you get a bit further.

>>176071294
This.

DDS is the true masterpiece of SMT and anyone who thinks otherwise is a contrarianfag.

>>176071123
>Throwing everything in your face and making it easily as understandable as possible

I noticed this when i first played IVA.

I found it very odd and offputting.

>>176071123
>throwing everything in your face and making it easily understandable as possible doesn't make it good
I didn't even say Final's story was good to begin with, but all right. Please explain to me how the game does this.

>great fucking setting
I'll agree, but it was the same setting between games.

>ton of depth
>story that was very tastefully done
Now you're losing me. How did 4's story possess 'depth'? The majority of the plot is, "hey, we don't like this person, go out and get them for us". It's a slog that moves at a snail's pace except out of a few key events with alignment zombies that never develop for characters.

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>>176071596
I need to replay DDS

>>176071596
It's not that good.

>>176071573
Let me rephrase, replaying. I didn't care much for it at release so I'm giving it another shot.

Which parts would you say are handled well in that regard?

>>176072089
Name a better SMT game.

>>176072183
jack bros

>>176072183
Final Fantasy VI.

>>176072183
Jack Bros

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1-3 - 100% IV on highest difficulty
4-6 - SJ
7-9 - Soul Hackers
0 - Try an Etrian Oddest game

>>176072183
Persona 5

Anybody got some fanarts of when Asahi got very personal with a snake? The game only give us a picture of her googles being very wet but maybe you guys found something with a different angle? ahahha

>>176072413
haha wouldn't it be funny if the atma avatars got gassy from eating haha that'd be pretty funny

>>176072575
hey, one at a time man. haha.
I mean, surely I can commissioned it someway, but maybe some ryona guy or the japs could have make it first.
Just asking, man.

>>176072304
>100% IV on highest difficulty

Is that even fun

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>>176073079
I don't know. Probably?

>>176073079
IV is not fun no matter how you play it.

>Tfw you will never be haunted by ghost Navarre

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Pixie is best waifu

>>176073415

I want to marry my starter pixie companion!

>>176073415
That's pretty darn cute anon

>>176073403
>tfw You will never get doped by Ghost Navarre

>look up the price of some of the kaneko art books

wew

It might be cheaper to fly to Japan and scout out Jimbocho

>>176074287
Did you check yahoo auctions yet?

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>>176073415
Obviously

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>>176073415
Not quite, son of man.

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>tfw playing the beach DLC for the first time
Nanashi is pretty cute would rub my dick against his swim short while his friends are too distracted playing at the beach desu, no homo.

>>176074849
I think that's gay.

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>>176074849
I think Doi has something in mind with Nanashi and toot in loo's design

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>>176074384
Still a bit pricey. Guess I'll put them on my "shit to buy when im not brokeass or someone asks me specifically what i want for christmas/birthday because apparently money isn't an acceptable gift" list

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN94qTjXQic

>>176063158
Completely awful.

>>176063754
This is what chaosfags look like.

>>176064086
She talks big.

ACCEPT YOUR MIGHT

Finally playing Nocturne. What should I know before I dive in?

>>176075708
WE'LL SACRIFICE THE SON OF HEAVEN

>>176075708
I AM THE HEAVEN ABOVE OUTSIDE YOU

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>>176075708
Agree with everything this man says.

https://twitter.com/iiotenki/status/860982884630495232

Cute

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>>176075565
>lawfags

>>176070898
Cynical man in the bar

>>176075901
Nah brudda, I be a funky hip hop fag, ya!

>>176075708
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED

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So... anybody here actually played this shit or what?

>>176075708
>>176075872
Also punch this faggot in the face

>>176063593
On the other hand, being able to mark the map in-game so you can set up what the tele-traps do also removes all challenge teleporter mazes had, because it's just trial-and-error and memory in the first place.

>>176076056

If she's a so called divine being, why she dresses like a slut craving for cock? Even Succubus is more conservative

I decided to cheat and give myself infinite money in SJ because this economy is fucking busted

I regret nothing, and I am a casual

>>176075708
I WILL NOT CRACK

>>176076328
Because chaos is associated with arrogance and law is associated with humility. So succubus wears a dominatrix outfit and angel wears a submission oriented outfit. Its actually giving a subtle indication of more elements of the sides themselves.

>>176076328
Watcher angels are punished by God for lusting after human

>>176076421
Is cheating in SMT proof of chaos?

>>176076070
Isn't it just a tutorial for the mmo?

>>176076513
lawfags cheat too

A big problem with lawfags is they're so hypocritical

Was Strange Journey the last time Kaneko did human and demon design?

>>176076753
SJ and Devil Survivor, yes. Both came out in the same year.

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>Nocturne asks me to put in my first and last name
>I see, so your name is [Last Name] [First Name]
???

>>176077051
Japanese name for Japanese people.

>>176076513
I don't know, seems like proof of "fuck me, they could quadruple the amount of money random battles give you and it wouldn't be too much"

just a bit, anyways

>>176077051
YOU WANT PREY GEEM?

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>>176077051
>american calendar
>months comes before days
?????

Could anybody help out a major fucking failure?

I literally just started SMT IV and I can't even get past the first real boss-the twin Naga's. What level are you supposed to be for these assholes? I'm level 7 and have one demon with Agi skills but no matter what I do these assholes wreck me. Their fucking lunges always hit and crit/OHKO my guys so I'm dead after only two turns.

Like, I honestly can't tell if I just need to grind or if I'm actually this fucking bad at a game.

>>176077436
>European calendar
>Muslims come for days

>>176077496
just make more demons with agi, then. it's not particularly hard

also, that's not the first real boss

>>176077051
Having your family name first makes a lot more sense. America is just backwards as fuck in everything they do.

>>176077496
You don't need to grind and you're not bad at the game, IV is a weird piece of shit with a weird difficulty curve. Try to make another demon with Agi and pray you get smirk in your whole party so you don't get ohko'd.

>>176077496
Haha just hit the weakneses man just like use Agi lmao

>>176077923
Leave it to euros to put the least important information first.

>>176078017
But most of EU uses Family Name followed by Given Name :thinking:

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>>176078095
>:thinking:

>>176078095
:ok_hand:

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>>176077436
>not using letter abbreviations for months so people can easily read it regardless

>>176077436
>>176077051
It's only logical to show the most important information first. For dates that's the actual day the majority of the time so day/month/year is easily the most logical. For names likewise your Last Name is much more important when it comes to lists and the like, sorting by First Name makes absolutely zero sense so why would you lead with it. That's purely an american thing and backwards as fuck, you don't even call them First Name and Last Name in the rest of the world, I've literally never heard any brits say that for example. It's Family Name followed by your Given Name, anything else is retarded af

>>176068679
but you are wrong waifu fag kun

If guns use DEX, does that make a neutralfag world a wurld of dex?

What is the closest thing to a canon name we have for Demi Fiend? Besides, you know, Demi Fiend. I might just call him Hito Shura if there isn't one. Also, what stats should I be investing in?

I'm playing Nocturne as my first SMT. So far, it's pretty fun. Just beat Matador. I enjoyed planning and fusing demons that would stomp the fight. So far, I'd have to say the worse thing about this game is the negotiation system. Even if you use an appropriate demon with helpful negotiation skills like seduce, it still feels like a total gamble and for no real reason. You could replace the system with a dice roll that sometimes takes your money and items and nothing would change. I understand that you can use demons of the same family to increase your chances and sometimes other demons will tag-team in with their skills, but it feels more like an annoyance when it doesn't have to be. It's not a BAD mechanic, but I'd have to say it might be the weakest considering how integral it is to the game.

>>176079813

STR if you aim for the true demon ending, magic or support is fine otherwise

Just got to the last boss of SMTII.

But I can't fight the yellow fuck because my attacks won't fucking connect. I tried looking around the place but I couldn't find any demons with Sukukaja nor a mansion to try to make one.

Is there hope for me yet?

Does anyone have a torrent link to the original megami tensei games? And shin megami tensei 2? They have to be translated

>>176079879
Nocturne has one of the better negotiation systems so strap yourself in.

>>176080042
Which route? If Law or Chaos I'd think that Satan and Lucifer can do something. And if you have that something you can just hope you stay alive for the 10 000 turns needed to slowly kill that bald yellow head.

>>176080120
Not really. It's overly punishing early game, when you don't have any resources and no support skills for negotiations on demons and later on it's more or less triviality, as you have excess amounts of everything so it's just a matter of spending some time.

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>>176079813
Naoki Kashima in the CD drama

>>176070193
>aging
What the fuck does this even mean? They were playable when they came out, they're playable now.

>nothing can be more bullshit than metatrom horde reinforcements
>mfw red health Satan shenanigans
Am I supposed to summon in three demons with recarm and hope one of them doesn't die?

>>176080661
>Kash Nao

>>176080736
>They were playable when they came out, they're playable now.

Horse buggies were pretty good for their time

>>176080217
I'm doing Law.

Satan can hit significantly more often than the rest but it's still not much considering how much HP he has. Do I have no other options though?

>>176080736
It refers to things like outdated and unbalanced mechanics, sometimes graphics and music.

>>176080881
no, you're supposed to say you have to rely on your demons, and he'll just kill a random demon in your stock.

Is strange journey as everyone says it is?

>>176081028
It's an absolutely retarded concept and has no merit to it, especially not for games that are PSOne and onwards. Both Nocturne and SJ are modern games.

>>176081003
Maybe, but that was more or less the way I beat him.
I also cheated and had a savestate at the beginning of that fight, so death didn't totally crush me.

>>176080120
By which you mean The Worst One, then sure.

>>176081263
Fuck I mean as good*

>>176081305
Well, I'll guess I'll try. Thanks anon.

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>>176080956
Did you seriously compare video games to a method of transportation?

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>>176081294
>It's an absolutely retarded concept and has no merit to it
Your opinion is an unpopular one.

>>176081498
What makes video games special that they're immune from progression?

>>176081518
The popular opinion is that Persona 4 was a great game. Doesn't mean it's true.

>>176081390
Fusion is shit, dungeon tracks become mind numbing(Eridanus' theme is the only exception) after a few hours and if you don't want Doomguy to be an item dispenser, you have to grind. Other than that, it's completely fine.

>>176078095
:goonsay:

>>176081294
Being a basic dungeon crawler with minimal story and few underused characters I'd might say that Nocturne was dated already when it came out.

>>176081498
It's not a bad analogy.

Things get refined and more convenient over time, and video games are no exception.

The SMT series in particular is great about adding lots of good quality of life improvements with each game.

>>176081729
I guess people don't walk anymore since cars were invented. They've basically invalidated every other form of travel besides flying, and walking has really bad controls and gameplay.

>>176081729
It's an awful analogy, actually! It's not just apples and oranges, it's apples and aspirins. They both serve wildly different purposes.

>>176081626
Because media doesn't "progress," it goes through phases. Also, this: >>176081803

Is it just me or does SMT1's arcade theme sound like thriller?

>>176081803
Bad comparison because walking can be more convenient, but it depends on where you live.

If you live in a city, it's very convenient, as it means you don't deal with traffic. It's also cheap and affordable.

If you live in a rural area, you're not gonna fucking walk anywhere.

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>>176081676
The concept of finding games capable of being outdated is a lot more general than whether or not somebody considers Persona 4 a good game.

Especially when technology is one of the most fastest progressing things we have.

>>176081971
>Because media doesn't "progress,"

Yes it literally does

>>176082090
>literally
>l i t e r a l l y

We used to call out idiots who misuse words on this site. When did it all go so wrong?

>>176082182
He literally used the word correctly my man. Maybe check out a dictionary sometime? :^)

>>176081263
>>176081390
No.

>>176081971
Media literally does progress you troglodyte.

Show me one movie that is shot on black and white film. Hell, you'd have trouble finding people that use actual film these days.

Also things like cinematography has evolved immensely. In the 20's and 30's, they just shot everything head on, it wasn't until much later that people realized that certain camera movements can have certain affects on the drama of the film.

In the same way, game mechanics get refined, and developers find ways of making things better.

That's what matters here, mechanics getting refined over time. When you're used to one thing, it's a bit hard to go back to something that is inferior.

Like most NES platformers are awful to play now, if you've played any platformer at all since even the PS1 era.

>>176082090
>Media progresses
>When 90% of stories are either based off of "the hero's journey" or Shakespeare

>>176082182
Would you prefer figuratively or metaphysically?

>>176082182

Mildly upset that I can't tell if you're joking or not.

>>176082367
This. SJ is shit. Only Nocturne is more overrated.

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Hey guys any interest in resurrecting this team for the 4cc /vg/ league (virtual soccer)? Persona general revived theirs for this season and I figured it might be fun to jump in too.

We USED to have a team but it hasn't played in a long time: https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//smtg/

Basic plans:

1. Add in a few reps from the SMT games that came out since the team last played.

2. Maybe move YHVH back to goal and try and get him a big full body blender based on his SMT:IVF appearance. Why? Because the best goalie gets to appear on the /vg/ team even if the general doesn't "win" and we must PRAISE HIS NAME BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

3. Try not to job to persona general.

Gotta find interest among people here, if you're interested give me a reply.

>>176081973
It's no Blue Monday, but yeah I hear it a little.

Has a fusion failure ever given you something better or useful?

Usually it fucks me up in other games but I just started SMT4, level 9 in Naraku and I got a fusion failure that gave me a level 16 Hooligan. Really worked out.

>>176082441
>Soccer
NO FUCK EUROPE

>>176082497
It's futbol in europe you nigger.

>>176081263
I'm towards the end of it, I've had fun so far. It's my first mainline SMT though.

It's a little rough around the edges in terms of balancing. Some dungeons are pretty fine, others have extremely annoying hazards to deal with. A handful of boss fights are incredibly difficult without specific set ups. The game is INCREDIBLY stingy with giving out exp and money.

Other than that, I've been enjoying my time with it, and I generally don't like dungeon crawlers much.

>>176082375
>Like most NES platformers are awful to play now, if you've played any platformer at all since even the PS1 era.
I otherwise agree with your post, but I think this is bad line, especially when 2D platformers is, in it's basic elements, simple enough genre that even on NES there were games that still stand on their own. Especially when compared to PS1 era which was time when 2D platformers were forgotten in the face of 3D gaming and the whole genre went into hiding for couple generations.

Why is mainline so shit?

>SMT1+2
Outdated and just overall mediocre. Both are 5/10

>SMT3
7/10

>SMT4
6/10

>Apoc
6.5/10

>SJ
7/10

>>176082441
Nanashi (number 74) and Dagda from IVA

>>176082635
Rayman and Klonoa, nigga. Although I guess Klonoa would be like 2.5D or some shit.

Also, the only NES platformers I find passable these days are Mega Man. The controls are super tight and there's generally not too much bullshit. That said, I might as well just play Mega Man X, since it does everything better.

I guess that's my main issue, many NES games just got straight up improved in the SNES generation

>>176082481
My first fusion error ever in 4 was Yoshitsune in IVA.

Never used him for a fusion because I'd feel bad about getting rid of the only Famed demon I ever got + grew too attached to him, so I just kept him as a Bad Company machine.

>hehee chase me around every floor

Fuck wukong fuck monkey people

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What's so bad about letting the evil and wicked die /smtg/ ?

>>176065603
>P5 is unironically one of the best VN made.
fixed my friend

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Really thinking of getting that Mara statue, should I put it in the weeb closet or out in the open

>>176083262
On your office desk

>>176083258
I'm pretty okay with that, honestly

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>try to use Necroma

What the fuck is this?

>>176082797
>i don't care the gameplay
>for me mediocre animu garbage story + weifus > great story
wew lad back to your cancerous general

>>176083258
>best VN

Even within the same series, P2 IS (and P2 as a whole) is better

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>>176083358
it looks so good

I finished nocturne today and still like it less than IV. Come at me nocturnebabies. Starting DDS soon hope it's better

>>176083456
Man, it really should've been 1/2 of that MSRP.
>>176083415
>for me mediocre animu garbage story + weifus > great story
He'd probably rate IVA higher than 6.5 in that case.

>>176083374
I was also given the option to use Samarecarm on a Torifune, whatever that is. What kind of glitch is this.

>>176083415
>great story

Dude, I like SMT's sparsely told plot, but let's not go too far

>i don't like gaem

>WHAT DID IT NOT HAVE ENOUGH WAIFUS FOR YOU YOU FUCKING CASUAL GO BACK TO PERSONA GENERAL

fucking calm down, dudes

not everyone likes the same things

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>>176083662
>>176083374
What is this creepypasta bullshit

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This will never get old
This is why personafags and smtbros cannot be friends.

>>176083785
>WHAT DID IT NOT HAVE ENOUGH WAIFUS FOR YOU YOU FUCKING CASUAL
To be fair, that is an issue in Apocalypse.

There really wasn't enough Dagda screentime

>>176083785
WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT MY GAME?

>>176082013
TARTED

>>176084070
I've honestly never seen a franchise with more pointless in-fighting than this one

Not even fucking Sonic fans get all that butthurt when some idiot says Adventure was a good game

>>176084070
So as of now, we all agree that IV and Apoc's OST is better than P3-5 right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDsDYCI3fyc

>>176084350
It's a different flavor of music. I enjoy both series of it but I do prefer SMT IV and Final more.

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>people said how great Jungo is in Desu2
>it's thursday and he's still not here.
>realize i let the fucboi die
oops

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Okay explain to me one thing

How the fuck is Mastema supposed to be even slightly a good guy if he's in charge of Reds

Is it that retarded japanese thing of "oh well he knows what he did was wrong so it's okay that he keeps doing it, it simply can't be helped"

>>176084350
smt4 is by far my favorite mainline ost. I probably like p5 a bit more but would rank smt4 as my second favorite. when you fuck up negotiation and it transitions to battle theme is god tier

>>176084648
He's not in charge of Reds, he's in charge of Midtown. All he's doing is being hired muscle for the Ashura-kai while also doing some shady shit of his own behind the scenes

And by the way
>mastema
>good guy
ahahahahahahahhaahahahahah

>>176084648
He's trying to fuck with the (((archangels)))

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>>176084786
>Mastema
>not good

He's literally an angel anon

>>176084350
I love IV/A's music, but for some reason I got really sick of IV's normal battle theme quickly.

IVA's normal theme is god-tier, immediately fell in love with it the first time I heard it.

>>176082441
Anybody else? The opportunity exists to see a loose representation of dagda slide tackle a loose representation of a persona protagonist. Thought that might be something you'd be interested in.

So how would you guys rank the franchise and its spin offs?

DeSu (Srpg fag) > Mainline > DDS > Raidou > Persona

Although I do like P5 alot more then R1

>>176085026
Mainline > DeSu > DDS > Persona > Raidou

persona isn't great but raidou is just an atmospherefest and not much else

>>176085026
Desu(waifus)>everything else

>>176084648
>he knows what he did was wrong so it's okay that he keeps doing it, it simply can't be helped
This is more common on western shit muh misunderstood villain is a cancer that plages western storytelling for ages.

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>>176085257
Amane best girl pixie BTFO?

>>176085228
Considered how after one sequel the, everything got improved in Raidou it's rather impressive when you compare it to persnona and its a shame we do not have Raidou 3 or something.

>>176085026
>>176085228
Which series have better human waifus? DeSu or Persona?

>>176085026

Raidou > Mainline > DDS > Persona

Never player tier: Megami tensei, giten, desu, devil summoner.

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>>176085026
SMT = Devil Summoner > MT > DDS > DeSu = Persona

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>>176085472
That's not Yoohoo.

>>176085309
To be fair, Mastema is one of the few morally ambiguous characters in SMT4, where Lucifer is KILL EM ALL I AM TRASH ALIEN 1000000 DEAD LAWFAGS and Merkabah is genociderman

>>176085026
They're all great but I'd have to say

Mainline > Summoner > Persona> DDS

I've never really played a raidou game

>>176085608

Human waifus a shit, everybody knows the cool stuff is in demon waifus

>>176085623
>>176085621
>devil summoner
wow I forgot about this. I liked SH but since I do not have a physical copy I tend to forget about it

>>176085228
2000s games + original IV + TMS > 90s games >>> numale post-PQ modern trash + P4

>>176084070
i dont understand why SMT and persona have this silly ass rivalry.

they're both great

persona has it's social links and character driven stories

SMT has its awesome dungeons and combat systems and grand long running story

Is it overly cheating to import a save file with all Grids unlocked and placed right in front of Satan in DDS2 but, otherwise, beating him on your own merit?

>>176085987
Half the game in Persona is VN shit
And for the case of 3/4 the vn shit is awful

How is a game that is half a game really, more popular then an actual game? Ill tell you, waifus. Fuck waifus

>>176085987
>i dont understand why SMT and persona have this silly ass rivalry
What are you talking about? Persona lost decades ago, nobody gives a shit about these waifusims here.

>>176085987
The P4 milking and Persona becoming the face of Atlus (aka Fatlus) make people salty

>>176085987
I'm just mad that P4 ruined what p1-3 set up.
Same with how FINAL ruined SMT.

>>176085987
according to /smtg/, persona is plain shit and smt is average at best

>>176085987
>social links

How is that a plus? They are hollow stories of the mc talking to people with problems that they could solve by themselves without the need of a guy that all he does is to nod in approval.

And character driven stories would be a plus, if the characters were good, or at least weren't horrible school anime stereotypes with the same character types in every persona game.

>>176086221
this

>>176085987
A good part of it is because Persona is objectively more popular and successful.

It's also why you don't really see much SMTfags bitch about P1/2.

>>176086215
>ruined what P3 setup
You mean Slinks and horribly paced story because of the shoved in social sims?

>>176085026
Hashino's Persona > DeSu > Tadashi's Persona > DDS > Mainline > Raidou

>>176086338
that's because p1 and 2 are still basically using the core SMT formula.

>>176085987
>and character driven stories
>DUDE SECKS WITH TEACHER LMAO

>>176085987
Because Persona has drifted further and further away from its original intent, to place highschool angst and issues under the spotlight of Jungian psychology, with a backdrop of demons and shadows becoming real and threatening the world

Now the games are half-VN with atrocious pacing, and are still running off a simplified version of pressturn gameplay, though I haven't experienced the Baton Pass of P5 yet, they just haven't mixed character-driven plot with RPG gameplay as well as Persona 1 and 2 did, their combat-systems aside.

>>176086375
atleast the SLinks were good in P3.

>>176086215
I'm mad that P3 ruined what P1 and IS/EP set up. And then P4 danced on P3's corpse and proclaimed itself shitking of schizophrenia mountain

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>>176085808
A combo of Debisama, SH and Raidou is just plain adorable.

> Anon with the translated SMT 1/2 cia never uploaded them

Feelsbad

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>>176086338
>you don't see SMTfags bitch about P1/2

If Hashino actually read Jung and write better characters beyond tropes then SMTfags wouldn't bitch about P3-5

Can somebody remind me what the fuck the deal with reverse hills was in SMT IV, cause I don't ever recall it being mentioned how or why it was an upside down version of the building above.

>>176085987
Yeah but the way you describe them makes them sound like they each have a totally different appeal, so many people might only be interested in one of them. Then again, something not appealing to you isn't really a reason to resent it rather than ignore it, so I guess it's just people worrying that Persona will lead SMT to be neglected or changed into something they don't like in the name of profit, maybe.

>>176085987
the funniest thing of all is persona fags have even more infighting among them.

where the kids who played p3 first act like they're better than the people who started with 4.

>>176086406
Yes, and also them being niche titles (in comparison). The lack of obnoxious people claiming ____ is their waifu and arguing which girl is best kind of helps with that.

I've met a fan of Persona who played pretty much all of the spin-offs and editions but hasn't even touched 1 or 2 somehow.

>>176086338
>A good part of it is because Persona is objectively more popular and successful.
Also objectively better crafted and released on actual consoles

>>176086549
Hey, atleast P4 was self distinctive game on its own, while P5 essentially is just a bunch of traced ideas from the entire series.

>>176086640
it's so sad too because the psp rerelease of p1 is probably the best in the franchise.

>>176086484
ill give P3fags Sun, that little girl and Devil (tanaka)

but the rest were fucking awful (moon) or boring as hell (magician) P4 had Dojima, Nanako, Ai. but had some awful ones (daddy issues Yumi)

P5 has the most good ones,(Sojiro, Hanged man, Sun, Temparance) and its worst ones are just meh/boring rather then shit.

>>176086626
Hashino never was a script writer.