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Vampire Chan Edition
That's why we don't do anime OP pictures Subedition

>Warhammer II
http://store.steampowered.com/app/594570/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXxe897bW-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6WW1Nc537g
>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>FAQs and General Info
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http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

post total war stuff

previous thread >>>175904179
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Lizardmen will see The Geomantic Web
What will the other races see?
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Fuck Dwarfs
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>>176029815
Skaven - Ratpaths
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>>176029815
Do we know what the mechanic will work like?

Haha who cares they'll recycle it into 'Dark Elf Black Ark Web', 'High Elf Outpost Expedition Embarkation points' and 'Skaven under-Empire Exit point' with zero changes to the mechanic.
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>>176029746
last time I watched that shit show she was a little girl

what happened
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>anime
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>>176027930
Fucking love that image.
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How shit will they be?
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>>176029484
It's nice to give the northern provinces a chance to develop before chaos comes to kick them in the dick.

Also not mentioned by the anon that made the first post is that chaos gets delayed slightly and buffed pretty hard.

This was my first game with that mod setup
And it was only on hard
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>>176030151
shit enough
Vermintide Legendary Heroes when?
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how powerful would campaign chaos be if they didn't have the infighting mechanic?
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>playing VC
>dwarfs win the badlands bowl and start bullying me
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>Wood Elves are for /ss/
>Dark Elves are for BDSM
>High Elves are for rape

We can all agree on this, right?
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>>176030402
>play anything
>dwarfs win the badlands bowl
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>>176030069

>He doesn't know that Semen makes Vampires grow really big really fast...
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>>176030127
>>175849729
>>175860778

>>176030069
prequels
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>>176030402
>playing VC
>greenskins win the badlands bowl and send multiple 20 stacks to Blackfire Pass
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>>176030204
Just got to that part myself. First time playing with the mod (and first time on hard). Looks like your Sigvald also fucked off somewhere. Mine's lagging like 3 turns behind Archaon and seems to want to go in a completely different direction (for some reason Archy is taking his 5 stacks into the mountains, completely sidestepping me after I failed to defend Kislev, no idea why, since everything north of Zhufbar was razed).

Also, it seems autoresolve is fucked in fights against chaos.
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>>176030127

>fantasy
>video games
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I find it kind of weird that CA would announce the second legendary lord so downplayed and unceremoniously. I remember them really hyping them up for the first game, but now it's concept art on a Saturday.
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>>176030637
Uh just checking... is this a male or female 'saur?
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>>176030476
>play dwarfs
>badlands bowl is suddenly fucking hard

>play other dwarfs
>dwarfs lose badlands bowl and you gotta help them
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>>176029746
At last, a proper thread image

Good work anon
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>>176030628
I'm guessing you mean stacked against you? That might be tweaked to make sure they don't get wiped immediatley by kislev and the emipre.

Orcs seem a little strong in auto as well, again probably so they have a chance in the badlandsbowl
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>>176030453
High elves are best for marrying
Wood Elves are good sex bodyguards
Dark Elves are just sex slaves

I hate all elves tho, I would just kill them all
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>>176030453
Exactly right senpai
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>>176030637
Maybe that is for a generic Saurus lord?
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>>176030637
female
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>>176031035
Facebook says its Krok-Gar on dinosaur.
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I'm playing Clan Angrund for the first time and holy shit is this hard. I took the vault as fast as possible and Skarsnik already has 2 full stacks.
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>>176031190
>2 full stack
They are all gobbos, though
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>>176030237
>acknowledging End Times in any way
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>>176031227
Yeah but they have a giant spider. All my units just rout before I can kill it. Am I supposed to be spamming bolt throwers?
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>>176030727

No such thing as either.
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>>176031398
Just use ghost dads and yeah, bolt throwers are great too
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>>176031227
And trolls and an arachnarok.

Also, superior units mean little once the enemy outnumbers you so extremely, since the AI is actually smart enough to encircle you.
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>>176031236
they were all born before the end times, tho laddie
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What game should i play guys?
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>>176031613
Shogun 2 Takeda
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>>176030924
Other way around - the bar is heavily in my favour, but I still lose.
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>>176031179
>4 alterante heads for a LL
So they'll just recycle the whole model for teh generic Saurus Lord, adn the LL will just get a slightly different tecture finish.

Very smart, saves lots of time and money ;^)
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>>176031524
And only appeared in a game set during the end times.
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>>176030637
Didn't they do the same with Azhag and Balthazar though?
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>>176032540
who's to say they couldn't turn up earlier?
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>>176031035
Its the named special mount like deathclaw, so no
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>>176030727
just want to know if it's accurate, haha
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>>176032863
Me.
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>>176032205
Weird.

>In other news

This could actually be pretty rough
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>>176033351
What
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So... I was just gifted the NEET-elves DLC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D34QpxcA9sM
How do I into welves?
I messed around in the main campaign yesterday (both Normal & Hard) for about 20 turns each with Tree-Hitler and 420_Mr_Tumnus, and its clear I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm wiping the floor with enemies in battles (350+ kills on wildriders, wew lad) but otherwise... nothing's happening.
Where do I expand? Should I be a dick to the other welves? Go full Lebensraum on Brettonia?
I am not a clever man.
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>>176033573
serves you right

every time I'm fighting someone bretonnia joins them for no reason
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The fuck is the purpose of flaming arrows in M2TW?
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>>176032714
SKINK ARCHERS
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>>176033691
The only faction he's at war with is beastmen
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>>176033851
Looks cool
Also, people spontaneously combusting when getting hit by flaming arrows never gets old
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>>176033573
OUT FUCKING SKILLED
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>>176033851
I remember the flaming arrows in the Rome: Total War demo causing monster frame drops, so I never used them again.
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>>176033908
especially when you give them a different order when they all have their bows drawn and they all send off their arrows simultaneously
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>>176033689
I like to play antagonistic. Hit Skarsnik, then Norn, then usually east to Angrund and Tilea, even Hirn and Border Puccis.
However I suppose with some careful play you can be a Good Friend once you get past the aversion levels.
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ARE HELLSTORM ROCKET BATTERYS, HELLSTORM ROCKET GUNS, AND STEAM TANKS CONSIDERED ARTILLERY
DO THEY GET BONUSES FROM ALL THE PERKS
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>>176034479
>HELLSTORM ROCKET BATTERYS
arty
>HELLSTORM ROCKET GUNS
arty
>STEAM TANKS
chariot

I shit you not
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>3 settlements short
>nothing else to raze
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
At least i am going to win Beastmen legendary but man, this sucks.
Maybe if some random spawning faction settles something i can still do it?
Guess i am off to fight the Fall of Men battle and then wait
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>>176033893
Rough fight
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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>176033573
Fuck Nordland and Fuck white people.
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Has anyone used KAM's battle mod? I loved his submods for dei
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Fuck, how long is it going to take them to open the fucking preorders? I want my Relic Priest Edition.
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>>176030637
Because the only other Lizardman LLs to choose from would be Tetoekko and Ten-in-one, one of which would effectively be a gimped slann and better as a FLC lord, the other would probably get the skarsnik treatment with skills balanced around skinks and turned into a horde that could settle ruins.
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>>176032480
Nah Krok-Gar has a pretty notable spear and gauntlet, they'll probably just allow you to mount Old Bloods and Scar vets on a carnosaur of a different color. Still not all that much work since they can all use the same skeletons and animations.
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>Dat charge
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>>176003640
>>176004970
Instead of just razing Vlad to the ground immediately, I felt I should head back to Norsca, where it all began, and start over. Maybe this time I'll keep my sanity, I thought. Not likely, it turns out.

I sent out my agents to get a picture of what the rest of the Old World looked like, while Archaon raided up to Kislev. Pic is the result: Bretonnia and Bordeleaux have taken over the northern Empire, Mannlet holds a surprising amount of territory, and ITALIA HAS GRUNBERG NOW. The Empire is holding on by a thread, the Dawi are inches from annihilation, and the Greenskins have all but won the Badlands Bowl (either Grimgor and Wurrzag will confed or fight, I don't know which). The elves are skulking around south somewhere, and while it isn't shown the Border Princes have essentially kicked Italia out of their homes (which explains that northern aggression).

Fucking asinine mortals, indeed. At least this is gonna be a really nice change of pace.
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>>176036951
>praising Elves
no thanks
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>>176034939
Savage orcs can settle and they're the only horde faction that spawns periodically. Just hope the Top Knots settle down, or reload an earlier save.
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>>176037361
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>>176037191
Red eyes always die to Kadrin in my campaigns.
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>>176036943
I doubt it will be both. Probably only lords will have carnies and heroes will go up to Horned Ones.
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>>176035612
Hey I live in Nordland and I am white. Don't be so mean.
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>>176037594
chaos?
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>>176037420
well whole world belongs to poopoo pepee and nothing else exists anymore so dunno if they can spawn now.
At least i can brag that i beat Beastmen legendary
Can anyone confirm?
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>>176030637
Sotek/Plague Rat DLC #Confirmed
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>>176030637
they didn't announce shit retard.
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>>176029746
>tfw no vampire mistress
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>>176038418
What else would you call it? An unveiling? Wow, so different.
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>>176038475
AWAKENING
WOKE STATE
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>>176038418
>"Grymloq was the largest and most ferocious of his brood of Carnosaurs, which led Kroq-Gar to claim him for his own..."
read the fucking tweet, moron
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>tfw killing Chaos shits as Beastmen or Orcs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN6d4BjoNC0

So will we get any unique clan mechanics or quests from the council of thirteen?
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Nordland shits
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>>176030727
female (male)
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>>176038584
yeah thats exactly the same as an in-game model, portrait with abilities and everything else that LLs got when they were announced. It's no more an announcement than sayign the rat at the end of the trailer was announcing skaven with thanquol and queek lls, the number of autistic fucks in this general is unbeleivable.
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>>176038680
Is their anything they could take inspiration from the previous games and put into the game proper for maximum skaven backstabbyness for both the player and the AI?
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>>176038149
I just realized they probably will make a lizard/skaven legendary lord DLC. That'd be the first DLC I wouldnt buy because I don't care about either race.

I've been such a good goy though..it feels weird to have a warhammer release where I dont give them any shekels
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>>176038868
You're the one splitting hairs over your personal definition of 'announcement', so you really have no place to call anybody else here autistic.
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>>176038868
the whole point of the original complaint in the thread is that the second LL was announced without fanfare you berk
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>>176038898
Older games had a chance of lords being bribed and joining the enemy. That, and flipping to AI control with low loyalty, sounds likely.
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>>176037676
Same. Once playing as Von Carstein I tried to raze Karak Kadrin early, hoping it would help them, but dwarfs still killed them using Gnashrak's Lair as their only base.
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>>176038707
Get rekt
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Does constantly adding new trade partners equal more money?
Does their income matter?

Is trade a static benefit in the Total War games?
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>>176039335
more resources they have, more cash they get

if you have a bunch, you get more cash
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>>176039335
Adding trading partners does net you more income, but the income you get from it per trade partner is negligible, it can help and it's a helpful step towards improving your relations with a faction with out cheesing agents though, also it improves with the more resources you own that the trading faction doesn't.
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>>176039314
their hearts weren't even into it, why'd they join the skullsmasherz in the first place?
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Behold the most powerful Skaven wizard !! Better than Thanquol !! Witness true power !!
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>>176039837
Thanquol isn't the strongest seer in the lore though, he's actually pretty bad.
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>>176038868
Sir, your autism is out of control
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>>176039823
I have gorssel so maybe it was opportunistic
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>>176040421
Ah, even when wiped out Marienburg can't catch a break.Bretonnia should get a bonus for vassalizing nations as opposed to confederating
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>>176040632
>We're getting the band back together!
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>>176040312
Actually he is very strong, but too incompetent and stupid, at least in Gotrek and Felix
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I am experiencing a temporary lull in the desire to engage in a TW game. Old Friend please arrive.
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>>176040769
he's strong because he overdoses on warpstone tokens but he never achieves much and gets beaten nearly to death by some other grey seers.
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>tfw re-enacting Eltharions Greenskin purge across the old world
>tfw raiding Old World coastal cities for cute grills and Chaos fuckbois for your personal harem as Dark Elves
>tfw mindlessly rampaging across the Old World seemingly at random as Lizardmen

TW22 not soon enough.
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>>176040312
dude summons bloodthristers out of nothing, chaos sorcerers need to use sacrifices and shit

he's just a retard
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>>176040726
Louen and the boys having some fun one the walls
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>>176041257
>campaign bonus is he doesn't have to deal with back stabbing since he's a grey seer
>2 turns in he loses the bonus in an event
>has to do quest battles to find it again
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>>176038146
Why don't you find out for us then
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>>176041706
Flying monster indeed
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>>176038125
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>>176039014
>I don't care about either race

But lizards and rats are two of the coolest races
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So will they get cities or are they going to get the wood elf treatment?
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>>176042159
The super best friends go back to back

why is this so much fun
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>>176041907
trying, Skull-takerz and Top Knotz respawned but they are not doing anything.
Top Knotz is just standing next to ruined Akendorf like a braindead child and literally doing nothing
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>>176042460
>wood elf treatment?
please no, no one deserves this.
Amber and those gay little settlements are the shittiest mechanic so far
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I was looking at the waywatchers' and they seem to be worse than the deepwood scouts but they also cost like 300 gold more than them

what's up with that? am I missing something here?
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>>176042724
Watching badass heroes and lords trashing an enemy army is fun.
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>>176042724
They finally admit that they need some help and in come the peasants
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>>176043407
They have AP damage and better range
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>>176043407
these guys are the best ap archers in the game
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Do you take me for a wazzock?!
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>>176044119
Yes
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>>176043626
Louen hogging all the kills again.

Other 2 lords and pally on foot had 250-300 apiece
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Brettonia or Bordeuleux?
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OK, after around 3 respawns and 100 rounds Top Knotz startet settling some cities, guess i will have my long campaign win.
Now i need them to thrive so i can get those retarded raiding income achis
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>>176043626
>3 melee heroes and not a single damsel
cmon
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>>176044346
Thanks for letting us know, and good luck beastmen or wood elves DLC? Favorite faction is vamps if that matters
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>>176044296
brettonia if you wanna farm norskans
bordeleaux if you wanna farm welfs

in the end its a matter of who gets the most chivalry

louen essentially gets 2 or 3 legendary trinkets, while the other dude just gets a magic trident
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>>176044592
seems like the other dude gets a lot more army based buffs and louie is more of a fighty type guy, cant really decide which i would prefer, a hard hitting leader or 1 that buffs the whole army
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>>176044346
>Now i need them to thrive so i can get those retarded raiding income achis
>Settled Top Knotz
Good luck anon, hoping to hear your result in the next month lmao
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>>176044585
>>176044832
>settlements i already razed earlier don't count towards victory objective if i raze them again
Why is this a fucking thing.
CA wtf.
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>>176044858
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BEAST WIZUD
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>>176044204
we wuz warbozzes n shiet
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>>176044585
>beastmen or wood elves DLC? Favorite faction is vamps if that matters
sorry forgot to answer, honestly i would go with Beasmemes, i love nature aesthetic races but Wood Elves honestly have really tedious and unfun system, your main cities rebel all game long and you can't do shit about it + your settlements are tier 1 outposts that can be destroyed by like 6-unit stack.
Go with Beastmen and have fun, Wood Elves, as nice looking as they are, are just a pain in the ass and unfun to play imo.
It's your decision though anon

POOPOO PEEPEE
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>>176043407
Huge AP damage, in theory better accuracy but projectile speed messes it up

Still far superior for assassinating enemy lords/knights etc
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>>176044805
Alberic might not be as fighty as Louen, but Bret paladins and lords are pretty fighty, Biggest problem with Al is he starts automaticly at war with mousillon so between the orc incursions and that you're stuck on the defensive, but I'm pretty shit at strat and tactics so that's just me.
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>>176044204
Honestly don't see anything wrong with this if these were all real people
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>>176045232
Waystalker (the hero) =/= Waywatcher (the elite archer unit)
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>>176045339
they are we wuz kangz
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>sign a non aggression pact with Manny on turn one
>he moves his army north towards Templehof territory
>go straight for Drakenhof and take it while it's vulnurable, though with heavy losses
>Manny besieges Drakenhof
>Kruger comes and destroys Manny for me before I can do it myself

Well, that was easy. Now to attack Kruger and retake Sylvania. Why is being an opportunist so fun?
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>>176044204
You do realize all of those people were real, or at least are traditional depicted as black, in the case of St. Maurice.

>/pol/ fails once again
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>>176030453
No, high elves are for cuddling and handholding after she eventually starts getting a little freaky after a week of insulting you and getting hot and bothered.
>I-its not that I like you and your huge codpiece, baka!
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>>176044351
3 lords and a paladin
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>>176042847
Why?
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>>176046205
Yes, that's why I saved it.
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>>176042726
I guess the AI isn't programmed to do anything if everything is ruined.
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>>176046442
>you need settlements to do anything with your army, buildings and victory objective
>settlements are razed by drunk bretonnian peasant and a paladin with a broken arm

that's why
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is orion a shit LL?

how the fuck do you use him in campaign? making him a melee lord doesn't seem to work
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>>176045969
But they actually wuz kangz. As long as they're not being retarded it's fine, African (including the diaspora) history needs to actually be explored instead of black people making up dumb shit because they're too lazy to learn real history.
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>>176046730
just think of him as a cannon and not a LL and he is great
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>>176046702
But Welfs have huge garrisons and their forest has attrition.

>if the Welfs involved themselves too much in the outside world it might have terrible consequences for their forest

I don't see anything wrong with this, there's a reason they're isolationists.
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>>176046730
Welves are shit in general
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>>176046812
so I just have to make him a ranged lord, ignore his melee skills and get the good red buffs for the army?

the tree dude seems to be a way better LL than orion
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>>176046895
>huge garissons
only main cities, which STILL can be taken over by rebellion with ALL 3 defensive buildings

And normal settlements don't have good garissons, they are absolutely shit and everyone will take out of their way to raze them
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>>176046995
orion gets 4, count em 4, legendary items
endgame he is a fucking beast but early/midgame he is fucking walking trash furry dumpster
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>finally get to k8p
>crooked moon mutineers have 2 stacks + 2 waaaaghs
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>>176046962
Will tuesday be the day?
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i dont think you guys have actually lookd at alberic talent tree, he gets insane buffs for his army, like unique shit louie dont get. Imma do a legendary with him and see how it turns out
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Done it bros, legendary Beastmeme long campaign win
POOPOO PEEPEE
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>>176046514
>>176046767
Ah, I see, and that makes sense anon. My /pol/ bolter finger got a little bit twitchy.
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>>176041734
Or have it be related to his campaign goals. Like with Skarsnik and Belegar.
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>>176041734
They stop backstabbing each other if Horned Rat orders them to, they are too afraid of being warpfire raped by him
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>>176046286
She'd just shoot you through the dick and then stab your eyes out as soon as you lowered your guard.
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>>176046194
Templehof are cool guys. I saved them from mannlet and then we signed a trade agreement. I was playing as Karl.

Although, even though they had ruin dweller they didn't resettle western sylvania, just sat in the last remaining settlement.
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>>176046962
All I want is a fucking Empire sub faction, I don't even care who it is I just want to coop with a friend as the Empire god damn.
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>>176049519
get the fucking mod that has done that since day 1 then u fucking tard
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>>176049713
>using some shit mod
>having to play as geld
>stirland
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>>176049828
>the campaign is so hard i need my friend to carry me
kill urself xDDD!!111
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>>176033851
Flaming arrows deal morale damage and so are good for trying to shake the enemy. However they are not as accurate and therefore they lack as much killing power as regular arrows. I am not sure if flaming arrows stack otherwise I would reccomend trying to mix up your archers. Also as >>176033908 said they look cool.
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>>176033893
Do you have Steel Faith? I've noticed that with Steel Faith AI armies are actually trying to travel across the map to fight enemies which is nice. Its good to see expeditions from enemies rather than always just fighting your neighbors. Though it can fuck you up as it did in my latest Greenskins campaign where 2 fucking Tilean stacks pizza'd out of nowhere and raped me by turn 20 since I wasn't able to deal with the Red Fangs and Karak Azul fast enough.
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>>176050332
in my empire game of steelfaith, theres so many armies just passing through my lands its crazy, like middenland and tilea just have 3 stacks just going all around chasing orcs and beastmen
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>>176049923
>>176049713
>when the MP retards somehow find their way to /twg/
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>>176049713
What's the name of that mod? I've been looking for it, but couldn't find shit.
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>>176049828
carry on talking shit about muh boi and see what happens you colossal faggot

THE NATION FUCKING CALLS NIGGA
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>>176049519
All the fucking Empire has recieved is shitty mages that could have been added at any time and were held back to be released with the faction that uses them(Shadows, life, and Beasts) while VC have recieved a new lore of magic, a new unit, and 2 fucking Legendary Lords. I just want to play as Marius or Boris man. Empire is literally the only faction besides Chaos that doesn't have either a subfaction or atleast a secondary start position. Its bullshit.
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>>176051280

CA hates the Empire.

>Karl Franz
>Emperor
>gets bonuses to Reiksguard for some reason

>Kurt Helborg
>Reiksmarshal, leader of the Reiksguard
>assuming he ever gets added, will get -10% upkeep for Pistoliers
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>units get worse as you progress in technology
one day i will find and kill the CA intern responsible for this
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>>176051989
What?
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>>176052028
talking about Attila, half of unit upgrades are either much less cost efficient or straight up worse than their predecessors, and you are unable to recruit the old ones once you unlock the tech
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>>176051989
>early game units are rendered completely useless late-game
Worse offender desu, armies never consisted of elite-only troops, yet in any TW game its too easy to do so.
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>>176051724
If kurt is ever added he is probably going to get the Green Knight treatment honestly.
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>>176051724
>best cavalry is quickly replaced by some fucking chicken knights
That also reminds me that Blazing Knights, despite being a T5 unit, are also replaced by demis.
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>>176052270
Attila was probably the most fucked up Total War game. Unlike Empire or Rome 2 it actually had a ton of great features from the start, but the multitude of flaws baked-in to the game make it frustrating to this day.
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Yeah ok it seem im not a true understander but FUCK vh/vh . Its not fun,its not a challenge. Its jus fucking bs. Heres your army of elite units who cant hold a line for a second cos they rout when someone looks at them roughly....this is just hdhndffsdclllgggv AAAAARGH... but the enemy? Oh the enemy fucking tier 1 units ? They fight to the death. Heres your gobboes coming back from routing with 10 units...this.....i just cant
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>>176052603
yes, although i still think it's the best historical TW, because of how smooth battle controls are and the general pace of battles (faster than Rome 2, slower than Shogun 2/WH)
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>>176052638
dude VH is like +7 morale and melee attack for AI, it's nearly irrelevant after early game
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>>176053014
>morale irrelevant ever
-7 leadership is a BIG deal
Anon, please leave the thread
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>>176053162
>-7 leadership is a BIG deal
early game yes, but mid and late game your armies have much more powerful troops than the AI anyways

if you lose with elite units to tier 1 trash, you are doing something very, very wrong
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>>176053162
-7 is a big deal
lmfao go back to civ 5 noob
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>>176053014
Well maybe im just shit but i just cant fking win. My lines just dont hold for a minute that i could do any flanking and my top tier units just cant seem to do anything. Lords are all top tier and in the fight with heroes and buffs and all but no.. lines clash 10 seconds later..SIGMAR PRESERV US!!! All around with 0-10 kills
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>>176053319
>much more powerful
not always, also legendary has -10 debuff while enemies have +10.
This means if Vlad fights with Mannfred with exactly the same army. One will lose because his army will disintegrate into shit while the other one is unbreakable powerhouse.
It makes a difference anon
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>>176053327
>lmfao
>noob
back to plebbit boi
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>>176053396
are you getting proper charges?
also, what top tiers units do you mean? even with legendary AI bonuses, greatsword will always beat swordsmen/spearmen in a straight fight with barely any troubles
>>176053327
>>176053676
as i said, those bonuses are relevant only in early game
mid and late game, you will have armies with full grave guard lines benefiting from properly built lords, while the AI will still spam shitty zombies and skeletons and put random points on their lords
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>>176044204
Black Caesar
>He apparently had a harem on his island, having at least 100 women seized from passing ships, as well as a prison camp which he kept prisoners in stone huts hoping to ransom them. When leaving the island to go on raids, he left no provisions for these prisoners and many eventually starved to death. A few children reportedly escaped captivity, subsisting on berries and shellfish, and formed their own language and customs. This society of lost children give rise to native superstition that the island is haunted.
Neat.
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WHY CAN'T I JUST DO INCEST!
I'm playing Attila, and every time I get a regent who would make a sweet wife for my oldest son. However, i can't marry her to him. What the hell CA?
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>>176054273
>battleofagincourt.jpg
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>>176054016
Halbediers,greatswords,demigryphs all the works.. Dunno i usually put couple of swordsmen to the front to soak up missile fire or if fighting chaos put them to the back to mix in to the fight. Maybe the swordsmen intterrupt the charge of greats but still anyway you put them they melt...just had a fight with the true chaos of welfs who just had fking 3 dragons clash to boris while focus fired and got swamped with halbediers and reinforcing spears and quess what?...they routed...like 20 sec eweryone was running. Shielded frontline took like 10 sec of fire and ran. Cav didnt get even close to their archers before they ran. Just feels like the Ai just walks over me and i have no chance to do anything
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dwarf fags got a town that i need in my province but i cant do anything about it because were sworn allies
theres a vampire rebellion army on top of it right now, will it eventually take over and kick him out if i wait long enough?
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>>176056531
Vampire rebellion will raze the settlement if they win the siege.
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>>176056817
for the past 6 turns theyve done nothing but raid it though, and all the only building i see on it is Umgi Ruins
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>>176056763
Of course it can happen cause money, but a skirmish game seems unsuited for typical TW gameplay.
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who is the best brettonia to start with for a legendary campaign?
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Never in his wildest dreams did Frankenwurter see himself as the Empires first line of defence against the worlds greatest evil.
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>>176057157
They made a game out of vikings and the boshin war, so I don't think scale is really a problem
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>>176057416
Good luck Ian!
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>>176057240
Enchantress, her position is the best out of three possible.
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>>176057021
Then is the settlement already razed? Or maybe the Dwarfs will have to repair the ruins to establish an actual settlement which the Vamps will then attack.
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>>176057157
Entire realms go to war tho
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>>176057021
Is there an army garrisoned at the settlement?
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>>176057536

Ian thinks he deserves a raise, for being the savior of mankind and all
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>>176058416
the pic was meant for

>>176057683
>>176058441
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>>176058501
Be honest, did you autoresolve
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>>176058605
No idea, why that's happening.
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>>176058605
Probably the second case then
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>>176058501
>barely any losses
anon, don't lie to us
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>>176058501
>all those units just wiped out
>knights have zero casualties
Bullshit, you AR'd this
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>>176058668
>>176059303
>>176059716

Nope, didn't autoresolve. I don't have any mods either, it's just the power of tier 3 walls. Clockwork bombs are fucking strong.
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>>176059917
>siege-defense in a city
how do you even trigger this, have 450 hours in this game and i think i can count my actual siege-defenses in a city on fingers of one hand
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Tier 1 walls this time, and way more hellcannons. I'll probably have a few more casualties...

>>176060069
I'm not sure, I get them all the time though. You usually have to wait until the turn before you start taking attrition casualties before they finally decide to attack.
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>>176051280
the empire did get flagellants and the floppy hat lads.
>>176049052
She would suck my dick and shove her tits in my eyes.
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High elves are better doms desu, less sadistic, and in general more arrogant and controlling.
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>>176060492
>tfw no high elf ojou
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>>176029746
Oh god the anime waifu faggots are here. Soon we'll have scalies and furrie fags on the general as well. The end times are upon us.
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>>176060492
dark elves are high elves with more edginess. Humans in general get creeped out by elves because they are autistic AF with arrogance that makes you want to stab them in their stupid sexy faces.
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>>176060223
>Despiser of chaos
>Wears spikes on his head
>is bald
>heavy armor
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>>176057545
can you still get louie and albert by confeding and if so how fucked are their skills?
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>>176056545

>nothing really new just more vague shit

E3 is probably going to be the big reveal for the game.
>skaven
>release date
>campaign map
>in-game stuff

I mean they straight up said the announcement thing "we'll see you at E3". So, buckle, just a little over 1 month to go.
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>>176056763

Age of Sigmar is better suited for an RTS, not a Total War game.
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>>176060675
>Soon we'll have scalies and furrie fags
those are here already since long ago
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>>176060768
Chaos = emo
Sigmar = goth
that is why they call it gothic plate.
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>>176060768

Chaos has some good ideas OK

anyways another ez win, bonus pictures to follow
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>>176061179
Well the lizardmemes have a new campaing mechanic if you read the paper.
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>>176062265
what soldiers mod is that?
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>>176061329
NO INFECTION!
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can Skaven control rats?

Do Vampire Counts and Skaven incite Rat on Rat violence?
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>>176063381

I think it's Men of the Empire.
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>>176063381
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691688567

Also I guess I won the game basically. Hardest part of a legendary Empire campaign is the first 60 turns or so until you get 4-5 provinces
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What do. Am Empire
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>>176064195
Fuck elves! Men master race!
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>>176063670
Yes and maybe
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>>176064195
Do you even have to ask? You're allied with Bordeleux, and they were attacked by someone with whom you're not allied. There is only one correct option.
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>>176064195
Join in, acquire rightfully Bret clay, smile as Brets love you more for doing so.
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>>176064195
acquire a qt lady of the glade for KF's harem.
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>>176063779
>no floppy hats
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>>176063779
>no floppy hats
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>>176063670
In one of Gotrek and Felix books there was something like.
Skaven catching rat and killing it then saying something like "Stupid humans belive we can control rats and that they are our spies" so I guess they dont control them.
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>>176063779
>no floppy hats.
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>>176063779
rly anon?
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>>176064574
>>176064868
>>176065047
>>176065134

I knew this would happen
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>>176063779
How dare you
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>>176064195
Side with your Bretonnian buddies. Wine and horses > knife eared dendrofiles.
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>>176063670
According to the books of Gotrek and Felix, no, Skaven can´t control rats, even the skavens consider that idea as ridiculous
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>>176063540
can't prevent something that already happened senpai
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Chaos might be the shittiest campaign CA has ever released

Even worse than Alexander
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>>176064195
>elf cucks vs elf cucks

Ignore and greenskins instead.
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>>176064552

>Elves are supposed to be slim and beautiful
>Get shemale instead

And from what I've seen the high elf princess(male) also looks like a dude
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>>176066350
What's so bad about Iskanders campaign?
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>>176066350
get creative
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>>176066519
Don't give CA your business, they don't deserve your money.
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>>176066519
>shemale
>having a strong jaw makes you shemale
she is going to have strong healthy half elf elector counts.
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>>176064552

Not only does she have a boobplate, but her boobplate is on her stomach

They couldn't have made her uglier if they tried
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>>176066519
Warhammer Elves aren't you're anime sluts waifu faggot.
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>>176066519
What the fuck are you on about? it looks like a woman

Too much anime has hurt your standards
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>>176061179
>implying we'll get Skaven that early
>Implying they wont wait until the last month before release to push out all the Skaven info
>Implying it's not actually a bait and switch and Tomb Kings are the 4th faction.
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>>176052638
Do you usually play on VH/normal?

If you do you're getting major placebo effect, difficulty slider is broken so playing on VH/VH is the same as VH/normal
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>>176063670
Rat swarms better be in the game.

I want to see massed rat v bat action.
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>>176067350

I thought that there is only 1 difficulty setting in Warhammer. Why do people say that there are 2?
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>>176067258

Tomb Kings are the pre-order faction
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>>176067258
Imagine the game's Steam Reviewscore if they did that.... OverWHELMINGLY negative.
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>>176029746
How;s everyone's day going, /vg/? I'm a babby freshman and didn't pass Calc 2 and am contemplating suicide. Is Old Friend out?
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>>176067895
What's the matter couldn't handle the nonhomogenous differential equations?
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>>176067895
well you can always try next semester anon.
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>>176067258
But muh boi is Old Friend, anon
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>>176067775
I'd actually be ok with that. Would mean more content for the existing races until warhams 3
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>>176067258
Well they said there will be 4 factions at launch
>>176067775
They also said after "friendly warning" from community after pre order chaos TW:W2 will have some other pre order bonus.
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>>176060675
>Oh god the anime waifu faggots are here
They were always here, watching, learning, memeing, talking with you.
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>>176067895
Two finals on Monday, but I'm fucking around in CK2 instead of playing TW.
Just remember that calc 2 sucks, and you can always try again.
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>>176068919

"""""""""100"""""""" armor
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>>176069087
Abs of steel my dude.
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Give me Skaven and Lizardmen, i need my fap fix
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>>176068919
>points finger
>accuses you of ARCH heresy
>"Pssh, nothing personnel...chaoskid"
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What is the best way to utilize flagellents? Playing on VH Steel and Faith btw
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>>176029746
Do it.
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>>176069379
Either:

1) Speedy flankers like Forsaken
2) Unbreakable, if weak, anvil for hammering.
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>>176069226
Go away
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>>176069379
I'm a vanillafag, so my advice might not be totally applicable. That being said, flagellants a tarpit unit which can tear through unarmored enemies. They're also notably faster than every other human infantry unit (I'm almost certain it's the case in vanilla), so you can use them to chase down ranged units.
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What's he thinking, /twg/?
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>>176069929
why would you post your pic if you wanted me to go fampai
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>>176069702

>the amount of satisfaction an empire swordsmen would feel slashing open that pustule
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>>176070131
>so bat IS best girl, huh. Why would I even worship someone else?
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>>176070384
>and then getting coated in Chaos Pus
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Guys the scalies are making me uncomfortable!
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>>176070245
To distract you from posting the inevitable skaven and lizardmen porn that seems to getting popular around here
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>>176069998
They use maces, though. I was always under the assumption they were anti-armor.
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It's obvious that Skaven will be in the game, but would you rather they eventually got shown or a trailer, or that little to no information about them is ever shown or revealed till launch, letting people surprise and learn everything about them for themselves?
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>>176071049
i don't feel like getting banned bro
at least for now
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REIKSGUARD KNIGHTS
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>>176072161
REIKSGUARD, KNIGHTS!
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>>176071405
Nah, they have piss poor AP damage. Their regular damage is off the charts relative to when they're available however.
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ANON! GIMME A HUG ANON!
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>>176072161
Reiksguard are baller as fuck.
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>>176072281
what's the use of harpies?
Just trash to get artillery busy?
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>>176070524

probably tastes like vinegar
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>>176072161
who is better: demys or reiksguards?
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>>176072281
Kill it
>>176072506
Yes, alsto to tie ranged units and chase off routed infantry.
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>>176072714
Watching demigryphs send decapitated chaos warriors fucking flying in every direction is like porn to me.
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>>176072281
Calling it now, Delfs will get retextured beastmen harpies as their sole ariel unit.
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>>176073137
>The DElves will have their only flying unit aside from lord mount options
Hmm...
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How do I get a good start (VH) as Brettonia? Public order, Marienburg, and greenskins are killing me
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>>176073578
kill orcs immediately and then wait out 30-40 turns until you can confederate
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>Middenland and Hochland have been at war for several turns before I bother intervening
>Boris and Aldebrand have effectively swapped province ownership
How strange
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>>176073578
Bretonnian archers
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Why were the steam tanks so rare in lore? One you've figured out engines they should be pretty simple to make right?
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>>176074813
because reasons. I like to believe that the nuln college of engineers reverse engineered the engines and can maintain the tanks but the empire doesn't have the industrial capacity to mass produce them.
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>>176074813
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Steam_Tank
>All existing tanks were designed by the famed genius Tilean inventor Leonardo da Miragliano. After the inventor's death, the secrets of the Steam Tanks were lost with him and engineers have so far been unable to successfully construct any new Steam Tanks
Fantasy Leonardo da Vinci died.
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>>176074813
Because plot is the short answer.

The long answer would be making tanks in a pre-industrial society that uses artisans to do most of its complicated manufacturing is extremely difficult.

Using steam tanks must be a nightmare in the warhammer world, just think of the logistics of maintaining such heavy vehicles with medieval tech. There are probably less than a hundred people total that understand how the machines work to the point where they can fix them.

Also is it just me thats been getting a lot of vehicle captchas lately?
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>>176072281

I'd unironically have sex with a harpy.
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Hey guys I'm going into Empire for the first time. I've heard people bitch up a storm about vanilla though, should I download Darthmod or is that a meme mod?
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>>176075546
wonder when the empire will move away to a pre industrial division of labour system where you have a person making one component and then assembling them together. Humans can't match the artisan level craftsmanship of dwarfs or elfs but they have large numbers.
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>>176075836
Interchangeable parts?
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>>176072717
They also shut down gyros pretty hard.
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>>176073578
Orcs must die by turn 2
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>>176075705

As someone who has played of Empire, I'd say you should use Darthmod. The Star Wars stuff Darth insisted on putting in might be annoying but it's bearable with all the improvements.

Just for an example of those improvements, I've played a lot of Sweden because that's where I'm from and like like everyone who plays a TW game with their country in it, my first action is to correct history :^) Inevitably, I ended at war with Russia.

Russia, in the ~200 hours of play I have in Empire, never made a full stack. Not once. And what stacks they did build were pretty shitty, mostly Cossacks. Taking Moscow is an absolute cakewalk. Whereas in Darthmod I was actually somewhat challenged.

The mod is basically essential if you're gonna play Empire.
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>>176076574
Wow, that sounds nice from the AI alone.
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>>176069929
sauce pls
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>>176076171
yes. The empire clearly has the skills for interchangable parts for the most part. For some reason they are still stuck in the artisan phase for their actual engineering manufacturing process.
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>>176076646
Darth himself might be a bit of a meme, generating unnecessary drama but his Empire mod is pretty much the canonical version of the game. Also his American Civil War game is pretty fun.
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>>176077372
>steal assets from other modders
>unnecessary drama.
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im tired of cheezing the ai with the same artillery/ranged defensive turtling while the cavalry sneaks behiind and rapes theirs every battle

what are the most aggressive races that are the least dependent on artillery, or what other unit compositions can win fairly?
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>>176076574
>Sweden has two generic basic line infantry with the same stat and look for some reason in darthmod.

I really dislike the the mishmash feel of Darthmod. It feels like it's just some unit mods smashed together with little thought.

Also the bugs it introduced was pretty annoying.


I guess it is impossible to save Empire Total War. That setting really deserves another go 2bh.
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>>176074813
Making a TANK run on fucking steam of all things is impossible, at least one that could function for any amount of time to operate in battle. I don't blame the Empire for being unable to replicate his completely bullshit design.
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>>176078012
>
there might be a similar mod on TWCenter.
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>>176076574
what star wars stuff?
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>>176078575
darth has turbo autism.
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>>176078575
The game menu and the external mod menu was Darth Vader/Star Wars themed.


I am glad King Kong didn't make the Stainless Steel or Third Age mod main menu full of ape noises.
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>>176078045
Trains run on steam, why not a tank?
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I honestly think Med 2 and Rome have some of the best mods of all time, it's almost ridiculous how ten years down the line people are still churning out content (i.e. Divide and Conquer 2.0)
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>>176078885
king kong is literally based.
>left all his works for people to play with and tinker
>brought middle earth to life once more.
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>>176078885
oh that's fairly innocuous
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>trying to offer mannlet a non aggression treaty
>he counter offers asking me to pay him for it

Welp its time i go fuck up mannlets shit
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Ghorgons for beastmemes when?

Also, when Old Friend is out will it include Knights of the White Wolf and Teutogen Guard?
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>>176074813
i think i remember "not!leonardo da vinci" being responsible for its creation because he stole the schematics from the dwarves, but when he died due to tzeentch trickery the schematics were lost, and the few remaining ones are too valuable to the empire army to risk picking them apart and losing one
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>>176080334
>Ghorgons for beastmemes when?
Probably in Total War: WARHAMMER 3â„¢ since it's Chaos related.

>Also, when Old Friend is out will it include Knights of the White Wolf and Teutogen Guard?
Don't get your hopes up. Too much work to be included in the last FLC - and no more DLC for the first game.
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is there any way to change which direction the penumbral pendulum goes?
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>>176080334
Never, animations would cost too much, CA said so
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>>176081057
No. Much like Wind of Death, positioning is key.
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>>176080334
Old friend is one thing, arriving alone. TW:WH FLC ends not with a bang, but a whimper.
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>original cinematic trailer
>narrated by the light wizard who stars in the cinematic as he delves into a forbidden tome looking for a final answer to the oncoming apocalpyse, going insane in the process
>chaos not mentioned by name, only see him getting corrupted into a pawn of Tzeentch as his composed narration degenerates into a monster

>ingame trailer
>narrated by some bored british woman just listing off the races
>Oh yeah and then there's chaos I guess it corrupts war is everywhere, whatever, gotta stop those bad guys
I know it's a petty thing to be upset about but what the fuck, CA
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>>176048417
You're the sort of fag who makes /his/ worse.
Please never post.
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I have a question in regards warhammer in general, im playing Grim Dawn and i want to know what are the best classes to make a true Witch Hunter, Demolitionist and Soldier? (Melee+Ranged) or Witch Hunters have knowledge on magic and use it from time to time.
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>>176082943
Did they ever actually release the reason for that change?

They really did replace something good with something mediocre at best.
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>>176083894
This is not a fucking Warhammer general. If you want to talk about Total War: Warhammer that's fine but at least talk about Total War you stupid motherfucker.
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>>176083894
Demolitionist
Acquire dual pistols and pick up some Occultist gear, particularly one of their hats
Root out the heretics
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>>176083894
>Grim Dawn
>Warhammer
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>>176084126
yeah but at level 10 which other class i pick
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>>176084184
Get out already
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>>176084090
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>>176084461
He's not wrong. You gotta be some special kind of retard to walk into a thread for a series game to ask advice on another game to make a themed character build for an entirely different game.
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>>176084642
Witch Hunters are 40K in that case?
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>>176079469
>its another "break this treaty with your closest ally for 100 gold" offer from mannlet
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>>176085056
Truly a shitty schemer who seems unable to tell who I'm about to break the NAP against based on who's border I've stacked all my armies on. It's usually him though, can't let him get too high level.
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>>176084731
The point is that Grim Dawn is multiple degrees of separation from Total War, and you only connected it through Warhammer, which Grim Dawn is also unrelated to. It'd be like if I walked into the Neptunia thread and asked for Starcraft advice because both games have robots.
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Anyone played this 1212 AD yet (for Attila)? I can't keep up with what the fuck is going on because it's made by some slav that can't speak proper English and apparently they made some big drama on the 1295 AD forums because he was being fishy with donations or something, but his mod does seem to work and have a campaign so there's that

But I can't even figure out if I'm supposed to subscribe on Steam or download the MODDB files or both or neither
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>>176066519
>Looking to a british company for waifus

Its the decline of the west desu
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>>176084061
Total Warhammerâ„¢ needs to be an inclusive game that embraces individuals from each of the many genders in order to weave a more compelling story in line with CA's creative vision of diversity
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>>176084061
I also dislike how they replaced Alberic de Bordeleux's narration of the cinematic Brettonia trailer with the in-game adviser narrating the in-game Brettonia intro cinematic.
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>>176084061
Not as far as I know but chances are it will be something dumb to do with contracts. Like it's ok for them to use it for marketing because the rules change when it comes to using it ingame or some shit.
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>>176088856
man that trailer still gives me shivers, especially the last part were he's reciting the vow
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Bretonnia trailer > all other faction trailers
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>>176088472
Get back to your containment board /pol/ mouth breather
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Sometimes when I go to TWC, look at the RTW hosted mods and see all the unfinished shit I wish the mods would just lock that section of the forum and tell them to fuck off.

All the mods for that game are either finished or will never be done by now.
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>>176089795
no u
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>>176089795
so why do you suppose they added bored british woman?
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what mods should i use for a crooked moons campaign?
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Any mod that adds Norscan tribes or horde orcs to the game campaign?
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I KEEP GETTING FUCKED BY THE REINFORCEMENT MECHANICS IN GIANT BATTLES OF LORD STACKS

3 TIMES IN A ROW THE BAR WAS 75% IN FAVOR OF ME YET RIGHT FROM THE START IM AT A 40% DISADVANTAGE AS IT FILLS MY FIELD UP WITH THE UNITS I NEED LEAST AND SLOWLY TRICKLES IN MY MOST CRUCIAL AFTER THE BATTLE HAS BEGUN BEFORE I CAN SET UP A REAL FORMATION

RUSHED DOWN BY RETARD MAN POWER EVERY TIME
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>>176092919
yes
just search for a faction unlocker
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>>176091012
Clearly it was an attempt to genocide the white man and bring upon Greater Israel
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>>176061062
Yes and usually they're ok for skills, ai focuses on the vows asap and they don't get too high level with how early you confederate
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>>176087979
Subscribe to the mod and then download the mod files.

Also, does anyone here talk about Shogun 2 still? I kind of don't care for it.

I'm playing as Shimazu and at 90 turns in have done too well so far. Also, the battles are easy and sort of uneventful.

Things are supposed to get interesting with realm divide, but I have yet to see much action. RD hit me about a dozen turns ago, but I built alliances with 2 large factions, and the rest were fighting each other for scraps.

To make things interesting, I made the largest factions break their alliance and had them declare war on each other. Everyone is still busy fighting against everyone. There is not a single alliance within the realm but the one I have with the Hattori right now. I somehow have avoided the inveitable realm divide gangbang.
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>>176093176
A U T O R E S O L V E
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>>176083034
>caring about something that is half a day old

Please never post.
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TRUE KING OF EIGHT TREES
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>>176075615
You will unironically lose your penis.
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>>176093176
>he doesn't use Lightning Strike
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>>176096817
>not fighting computer melting clusterfuck battles for the fate of all creation
Lightning Strike is for pussies
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>tfw keeping Border Princes alive and raiding their shit for all that juicy money they seem to always have
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>>176095068
Shit. Did he change his mind?
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>>176097347
AI bitcoin generator + tons of ports= dosh
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>>176098404
So can beastmen awaken Norsca tribes?
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>playing brettonia have two armies getting attacked by Skarsnik
>lightning strike on Alec de Bordeleaux, who's very tired from forced march
>well okay
>battle starts on the side of a slanted hill like ALWAYS, cram everyone to the side so I can move them once it starts
>enemy is just skulkers and archers, plus a few night archers
>trees here and there, but not everywhere
>I have catapults, shielded infantry, 6 knights, and bowmen with fire
>enemy constantly disappearing and reappearing because lol sneaky :^) even when they're right in front of my units, so any Cavalry attacks just wind up with them stopping after a few feet and getting attacked by spears who also just materialize
>have to constantly micro and babysit all these cav who just stop dead in their tracks because they keep losing their targets
>gobbo archers also seem to have no problem melting infantry with large shields in the forest because lol no loose formation
>lose

Okay, try again but run away with him and have him fight Fay instead
>a couple less units, nothing major
>infantry line (3 ranked, shielded) like 6 ranks deep, they melt almost instantly against goblins head on and everyone runs

what am I doing wrong
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>>176044204
I was ready to be mad, but these are all actually plausible to both place and time period. Good show.
>Black Cowboys still getting no love.
>If I see one more black viking I will shit.
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>>176100001
These are all literal historical characters of which there are records. Except for "Zapatista Soldadera" - those existed, but that's no one specific (like all the others) and had nothing to do with race, so I'm not sure why it's there with all the others
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will this week be the week we finally see gameplay footage?
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>>176100447
Being a Zapatista was hardly a 100% positive thing. Weird that they brought it up.
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>>176073578
Just farm the orc incursions, the thing lasts like 20ish turns. You'll have King Frenchy leveled up in no time. Make peace with Marienburg if possible to get them off your back, after the urcs incursion even is finished you'll have a decent stack leveled up and you can go claim that free real estate from Marienburg. Then confederate with Bordeleaux and put their faction leader in Marienburg with his port buff. Enjoy your amazing economy.
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Is the Empire worth fighting for?
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>>176093840
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>>176100791
Not before e3
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>>176044119
That will incur my wrath!!
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>>176054756
Man flesh you say?
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>>176103875
I wouldn't think the elves to be the stupid sort, but a common theme for them (the helves at least) is that despite perhaps a dislike of humans, a belief that the last best hope for the world is a united humanity even if that is unlikely to ever happen. Hence why they ever bother to answer the call for help from the Empire and whatnot, when things get bad enough.
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>>176073578
My usual strat is to move louen to the border, recruit 2 archers and 2 footmen. Take marienburg turn 2, build walls and recruit a new lord there.

Turn 3 you force march for gorssel with both lords, turn 4 you move louen into reinforcement range and use the solo lord to cap the town. Louen force marches back towards marienburg

Set louen up in ambush stance in the light forest just west of marienburg to clear out the now full orc stack

After that it's just a game of whack a mole with incursions at couronne and marienburg
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Time to remove knife ears
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This is going to be a bloodbath
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With lion's shield active Louen will have 15% ward save, 20% physical resist and 89% missile resist

He also has the unbreakable trait

I'm curious to see how much damage he takes doing a flyover of the wood elf battle line
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>>176107838
I think he took around 50 damage from that
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The peasant mobs launch a suicidal counter charge as the wood elves approach, hoping to buy enough time for the cavalry to get into the archer line
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Party hard!
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The Horned Rat is just a rat.
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Both treemen in the front are about to drop to fire arrows, louen and his pally are finishing up durthu in the back.

Looks like my infantry line will be ok
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>>176109914
delet this this
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>Skaven still not announced
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>Approaching 10 weeks since Bretonnia release
>Still no word of Old Friend.
>mfw
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I installed windows 10 to try out direct x12 but it has even lower fps than dx11?
cpu : intel pentium g 4560
gpu: amd rx 570
send help
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>>176110597
I want to talk to the guy in charge of drawing the texture for everyone's throats.
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One down, three to go
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400 hours and i've never seen this one
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>>176110597
Monday
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>>176111468

What is that? A lord buff or does it count as a banner?
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>>176111726
Lord buff. It's pretty sweet on beastlords or gorebulls
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>>176111006
Sounds like old cpu. How much RAM? W10 eats RAM like the skaven consume their rightful lands.
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>>176111006
Welcome to W10

Enjoy your literally worse than Vista OS

This isnt just you, most people get worse performance on Dx12 over Dx11
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Will CA ever make the Chaos campaign fun?
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>>176112972
In W3 for $60
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>>176111867
>old cpu
huh I installed it yesterday. It is kaby lake. 8gb ram ddr4 2400 mhz
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>>176112528
I heard (from this general actually) that dx12 can really help rigs with slower/budget cpus
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>>176110595
ehehehehe skaven whats that??
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>>176113126
Pentium makes people think it's an old chip. As it is that's still not a particularly strong processor
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>>176061316
CA did Halo Wars 2, could literally palette swap marines for sigmarines and bases for realmgates.
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How can I get a viable start on Fay Enchantess Legendary campaign?
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>>176113461
So you're saying dx12 only helps if you have a strong processor?
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>>176103875
It's the only thing worth fighting for
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It's a long way to Karak Eight Peaks,
It's a long way to go.
It's a long way to Bugman's Brewery,
To the greatest ale I know!
Goodbye, Karak Izor,
Farewell, Karak Norn!
It's a long long way to Karak Eight Peaks,
But my heart's right there!

can someone make a smiling belegar using that one app?
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Did CA add new items for beastmen or something?
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>>176113882
no, but beastmen have a lot more items than some of the other factions, similar to chaos.
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>Use War Target Coordination with Barak Varr so they can help me fend off some greenskin
>They go the complete opposite direction with their main stacks and start burning the Border Princes

K-Khazuk!
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>>176114191
>not helping Barak Varr keep the filthy umgi in check whilst getting Karak Azul to help clean up bandlands bowl
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Total War: China
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>>176072714

Is there any reason to use the standard Demis over halberds?
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>>176114728
Soon.
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>>176114825
No, don't know why even have aa demys, they are just a shitty version of halb ones
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I think I need some spearmen for this battle
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>>176114728
I hope so. Just to see the butthurt in the youtube comments. Also the setting might be fun.
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>>176114825
Dramatically better at fighting large targets would be the big one
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>>176069473

COME ON LAKHMIDS
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>>176114825
Halberds ones are better for prolonged combat. Normal ones are better for cycle charging.
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>>176115226
KISS YOUR WIVES GOODBYE
CAUSE SOON WE'LL BE KISSING THEM HELLO
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>>176115163
>>176114825

Sorry, misread that. There can be very selective reasons- In the wood elves matchup where you can easily dispose of their cavalry anyway, the shield and being slightly better at running down skirmishers can be worth it.
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So I'm doing a takeda campaign and I'm rushing for Fire Cav, but I'm wondering, would it actually have been better to rush for Great guard instead?

The building they require doesn't buff units as much but they'd make certain that I'm the first to build a legendary horse school for the +5 charge bonus on all units.
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>>176069473
i still remember playing attila for the first time, played it with a friend and it was the first time either of us touched tw

we both went vikings and lost in 20 turns
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>>176114825
>>176115289
Also Halberd ones have lower Melee attack and defense lower charge bonus.
Halberds: 18 normal 38 AP dmg 38 Anti Large
Lance: 20 Normal 45 AP dmg
So Lance Demi are far better for fighting infantry.
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ok
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>>176114825
only vs dwarfs
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>>176113742
Responded to you the first time - I changed to W10 recently and kept having memory issues that I'd never had on W7 with 8GB ram. Would probably just cause crashes rather than slow you down though. Also yes as the other anon said, I read pentium and thought old.

All I can guess is devs aren't used to dx12 so it's unoptimised.
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>>176114728
Like their ships a Chinese tw game would be junk.

Not doing china would save CA from another rome 2 disaster.
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>>176113185
Well you fell for a /g/ bullshit meme

Dx12 is horrendous, and it has nothing to do with the games, its just bad in of itself.

It also doesnt help W10 is bad for performance, in fact its so shit M$ are now releasing a 'Gaming Mode' just so you can play at the standard of older OS systems.
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>>176093176
really wish they would do empire at war style and have a reinforcement panel that lets you pick who and when to call in reserve units
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tell me /twg/, why are Dawi such cancer?
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>>176116158
They dont need to do that, they need to make fatigue a proper system, as well as tactical retreats.

Literally for a thousand years humans have known how important it was to have a frontline that was replaced with fresh troops and to give the front line rest even in the middle of battle and yet CA has never put this into TW. We should be able to engage troops, then pull them out and replace them with a different unit mid fight so they can rest, and rest needs to be more important.
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>>176094267
Hattori might turn on you if they have no other enemies, only clans that have "dependable" trait seem to stick to your alliance, like oda.

One thing that iritates me to no end is the fact that all of the AIs in shogun seem to spam those fucking yari samurai, which are complete shit for their cost. Your typical late game enemy army consists of ~4 generals, maybe 4 cav and yari/bow samurai and even Oda clan is not doing smarter things like getting 2 ashigaru armies for the same fucking cost, which would be 1000 times better. Only Ikko Ikki spams a bit more ronin archers
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Damn...

These textures suck dick
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>>176116203
Hard to remove.
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>>176116286
well no i just mean in response to that guy's post, he had max amount of units in the battle so the rest of the army just trickles in as units dies and who comes in from your reserves is totally random and automatic
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>>176114978
>more spearmen
Beastmen Spearmen are the trashiest unit i've ever used, i think even gobbo ones are better.
Just update to Gor+
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>>176116425
Stop playing on a toaster then
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>>176116203
>that comp
uhhhhhhh, what?
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>>176116584
Oh those reinforcements

Yeah, that system is pretty rubbish. Anything would be better than this trickle stuff.
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>>176116609

No the textures just suck

And there's no underground lighting for some reason
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>>176116775
Na, your computer is a toaster

That'll teach you to get radeon
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>>176116775
Try turning on unlimited video memory
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>>176116425
The LLs got really nice textures and details from what I have noticed.
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>>176116874

I have 8gb of vram

My settings aren't getting turned down, I've also checked anyway
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>>176116946
Well I have no idea of how strict or lenient the downgrade threshold is. It might downgrade you at 1 frame loss for all I know.
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>>176117015

If you go in the options menu during a battle there's a small symbol next to the settings getting downgraded so I know nothing got downgraded
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THE THRONG IS MUSTARD
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SHAMEFUL DISPRAY
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Is using yari wall any good for siege defence when the enemy are climing up your walls?
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Old friend confirmed as vampire counts LL
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>>176093176
Reinforcements ALWAYS come in from left to right of a lineup. If you have more than 40 units in a battle. the remainder will trickle in slowly as existing units die.

If you want to be instantly reinforced by artillery, or cavalry, then you need to make an army where these units are on the left of the lineup (so, an army of only artillery, or an army of only cavalry and artilleryin the second case).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYdG8avAElY
soon
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>>176118250
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>>176118160
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>>176118347
das rite
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>>176114728
Hopefully never.
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>invade Lustria as Empire
>it ain't me starts playing
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Kind of feel like this campaigns fucked.

Is it usual for every surrounding clan to make war with me?

When I played Takeda in Darthmod everyone would happily pay me 3000 yen for a trade agreement but in this vanilla campaign it seems like everyone just wants to kick my shit in.

Defo shouldn't have turned down that hojo military alliance.
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>Turn 102
>Empire Secessionists still exist
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>>176119202
I've found that in Shogun 2 if you lose too much army or disband it you can start a chain reaction where one clan declares war on you because they're stronger, then the next one decides that since you'll be busy fighting those they can also declare war on you and repeat.
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>>176119297
Yeah, it's very easy for one war declaration to snowball and turn into a feeding frenzy.
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>>176118717
I wonder how ill they make this. In normal circumstances if you left Empire to conquer Lustria you would quickly lose your lands either to chaos,orc,vapms of just greedy provinces.
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Tomb Kings at some point in the future
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>>176114978
you need archers - when the minos charge your trashy blobs of inf the ungor raiders will be able to shoot them and make quick work of them due to their large unit size
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I fucking hate this event so much

It makes the alreading lightning fast battles even faster, is it because I have the blood DLC?
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>>176119457
build a small settlement for trade and that's about it.
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>>176119276
>you're playing as the empire
>on normal
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>>176119457
They can't threaten the Empire if they're all dead
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>>176077731
Beastmemes and woodelves
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>>176111468
>calling Pestigors "Nurgors"
FUCK YOU CA
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>>176120450
Seein how Bestigors end up being weaker than normal Gors, I get the feeling that CA wants us to use nothing but Gors anyway.
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>>176119297
yeah, i'm missing the garrison feature from warhammer right now desu.

Only being able to recruit 1 ashigaru a turn means it takes like 15 turns to build up a stable garrison for town and there's no building for turning a town into more of a fort province than a farming one. .
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>>176116203
That's some serious min-maxing going on
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>>176118250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULgMcQCXXd0
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>>176120534
Yeah, they feel like a token armoured/ap infantry
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>>176120534
I almost never use Gors either.
Just cheap chaff Ungors and the rest of my force on the big beasties
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>every single invasion has the man-power to kill me but they all instantly siege battles they probably won't win
This how Uesugi died.

Atleast I'll be able to reclaim all my shit.

Though still got another Oda stack round the corner.
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>>176119820
Yes
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>>176121023
It's complete bullshit that the Gors end up WAY stronger thanks to all the buffs from Lords and Heroes.

>>176121127
I switched to pure Mino spam, it's just better.

Bestigors have shit unit size, and their armor seems to be almost useless.
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>>176116775
>amd
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>>176121259

I just want CA to completely get rid of unit buffs, it's so obvious this is the Rome 2 team

In Rome 2 you had lybian infantry with 90 melee attack rolling over oathsworn (when Attila had barely any and were mostly limited to ammo), this game is pretty much the same, except here it's even worse, not only some units don't get benefits (like bestigors) but factions have different bonuses, you have factions like crooked moon getting massive bonuses and factions like chaos or VC getting shit ones.

I wish veterancy was the only improvement to a unit's stat, I would make the mod myself but it would require a lot of work
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>>176121176
fuck forgot pic
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git fucked
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>>176121497
I wouldn't mind if the bonus stats were not LOL SO RANDUMB.

I guess it's supposed to give a theme to certain LLs and armies, but it just fails to work properly in most cases.
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Just getting back into the series since playing Medieval 2, should I pick up Warhammer? See the FAQ hasn't been updated in a bit. Or is there another one I should grab first?
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Now in the same turn, another rival daiymo comes to claim Shingen's head.
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>>176121846

Why is their general a horse?
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>>176119457
The Explorer Challenge:
step 1. Choose your favourite old world faction.
step 2. Before you acquire (or raze in case of horde factions) another settlement, you must first own (or raze in case of horde factions) a settlement in Lustria. You can still develop your first settlement, raid, sack, engage in politics and build up your army before you leave. Also, before the first razing of a lustrian settlement, horde factions cannot make new stacks, other than the ones they start with.
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THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING I'M THE MASTER AMBUSHER
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>>176122623
Yeah it's a bit weird.

I'd expect the takeda to follow a horse, this seems strangely inverted.
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is steelfaith good
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>>176123087

Not really.
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>>176123087
Worth trying. I like it.
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IT'S TROLL TIME
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How many hours do you guys usually spend running a campaign, short or long?
What difficulty?
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>>
>Want to play out the most epic battle of my campaign
>Will probably be fucked over by shitty reinforcement placement despite 65/35 odds
>Even if I win half their army will escape in retreat and none of their units will be truly wiped out
>If I actually pursue their retreating units to finish them off or inflict real damage, I will probably be overwhelmed on my front lines (and I'm sure they will still escape)

or I can autoresolve and watch them be completely obliterated by my forces with minimal casualties

TW2 waiting room
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Okay, so in a single turn a lot changed.

I'm now at peace & trading with the rebels & hojo and the two enemy stacks got their shit kicked in so I can probably go claim their turf now.

Oda is the only real threat left.

>>176122623
He seeks to mock Takeda kinship with their stallions
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>>176123879
The true pain of Total War
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>>176122519
best be getting a kagemusha
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>Want a challenging game
>play legendary
>enemies get massive leadership buffs
>i get massive debuffs
why is this so tedious and unfun, i want challenge but i want it to be FAIR
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>>176123879
The idiotic reinforcement positioning has plagued TW since pretty much forever.

I still fail to understand how the positioning on the map has zero influence on the direction of the reinforcements in battle.
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>>176124354
Play multiplayer and test your mettle against true understanders ;)
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>>176123775
*routes*
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>>176124354
Yeah kinda sad. But AI got it's limits. I menage to beat Empire , Brets and Dwarfs campagins on Legendary. But greenskin one i beyond me. Orc boyz with morale debuff fighting other Orc boyz with morale buff. Really low chances of winning and to add to this all hateful Dwarfs.
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>>176123775
>level 1
How
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>>176124021
The only things the Takeda love more than horses are teenage boys

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takeda_Shingen#Retainers

>The two entered into the relationship when Shingen was 22 and Masanobu 16. The love pact signed by the two, in Tokyo University's Historical Archive, documents Shingen's pledge that he was not involved in, nor had any intentions of entering into, a sexual relationship with a certain other retainer, and asserts that "since I want to be intimate with you" he will in no way harm the boy, and calls upon the gods to be his guarantors
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>>176124354

Play on very hard and put the battle difficulty to normal.
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>>176124509
>true understanders ;)
>demis
>lol i runaway with 1 lord to draw XD
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>>176124802
you need like Lord and 3 heroes to offset that debuff for greenskins
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>>176118120
pls respond someone

I'm using it and it seems more effective but I can't really tell.

is it better to put your defending unit stationed on the wall or right by it?
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>>176120534
I'm refering to the renaming of nurgle beastmen buddy.

R E A D
E
A
D

T H E
H
E

L O R E
O
R
E
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>>176124938
For Yari Ashigaru it is better to put yari wall right behind the wall especially vs. Samurai units.
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>>176124943
I guess that one slipped by their resident lorefag.
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>>176056531
If you're Clan Angrund, just wait for confederation.

If you're Orcs, kill them

If you're Wood Elves you don't care about provinces

If you're using Conquer Anywhere, kill yourself you piece of shit faggot
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>>176124943
maybe only the nurgle bestigors get called pestigors?
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>>176124938
Put yari ashigaru in yari wall at the bottom of the walls while your ranged units fire into the enemy blob from above. With matchlocks, this lets you win literally any siege defense.
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>>176125215
Nurgle beastmen are called Pestigors, not that Nu-Gor thing, especially considering anything lesser than a Bestigor would not get any kind of blessing from the Big four
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>>176125043
So is it a bad idea to make the yari ashigaru man the walls?

I figured it might be better because dudes who climb up will be taken out a lot quicker.
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>>176124943
Sorry, I never read the Beastmen army book in English, I assumed that this was their name.

GW's translations have been really erratic over the years.
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Finally
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>>176125308
No. It is OK especailly if the enemy shoots at them.

But against Samurai enemies, it is better to form the Yari wall instead of parking them right on the wall.
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>>176125343
What language are you reading in? The German translations have got very bad in the last few years.
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>>176124898
Almost nobody really does that though, and you can leave if they do. When they do, its usually not the lord either, just something unbreakable and dumb you can plan for like a steam tank. But again, you can just leave if you find an idiot.

Or do the fake points matter to you?
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>>176125373
>turn 83
>1584 chivalry
what the fuck, do you fight like 8 battles a round?
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>>176125490
Yes, I read most of them in German.

I have some army books in pdf form off of /tg/, but not Beastmen.

But honestly Nurgors gets the idea across just as well as Pestigors.

I'd assumed that Nurgor was maybe the Champion of a Pestigor unit or something.
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>try Europa Barbarorum
>attack levy spearmen with 3 hoplite units, surrounding them
>crash into their rear several times with my general
>clash takes 5 minutes for the unit to rout
>general goes after them and kills barely any of them
>they decide not to rout and kill my general
Did I get memed on? The battles in this mod send me to sleep they're so slow
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>>176069473
Roll buds
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>>176113867
I recognize your tune anon and I hand you this (You) for giving me feelings.
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>>176125787
56 battles won, 16 fought personally

Close to a third of that is from traits
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>>176125259
ooh I might try this, sounds cool.

At the moment I've been re-positioning archers so they can shoot at the clumped dudes just sitting there waiting to climb but this only works on funny shaped forts.

>>176125453
yeah I think I'm getting the hang of it.

I tried a mix of both and making them man the walls is defo better if you're short of yari. I had a single unit hold off 3 units of samurai climbing the walls with the help of some samurai retainers charging at whatever was seeping through.
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>>176126342
What difficulty ?
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>>176123775
YOU GOTTA PAY THE TROLL TOLL
TO GET INTO THIS BOY'S HOLE
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>>176126438
VH/H

I don't build public order anywhere, just have walls all over and half stacks to clean up for xp
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is it just me or are 40k orks way more fun than fantasy orcs?
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>>176127076
I think there's limited shenanigans fantasy orc can get up to considering the setting.
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>Recruitment bar so long it starts a second row

That's a first
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>>176126423
The problem is that samurai climbing the walls will still simply outfight your Yari Ashigaru, if you put them into defensive spear wall they will hold the trickle of Samurai that get over the wall for longer.

If you have somthing to charge the side or rear of the climbers you should be able to break them.

If the enemy is climbing with Ashigaru it is better to just man the walls though, you should be able to break them while climbing.
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>It's only a rebel army, how hard could it-

Oh
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>>176127876
>not orcs

???
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is it ever worth skilling a goblin big boss for combat?
>>
post memes
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>>176127974
In campaign? No not really, unless you absolutely need leadership
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>>176127362

>TW warhammer does not have power cre-
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>>176127974
character hunters, especially when on a spider mount with the poison they are good at pressuring characters
>>
What if Khazrak was a GIRL
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>>176127076
Fantasy G O B L I N S >> 40k Orkz > Fantasy Orcs
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>>176128578
Hey looks like you didn't finish your sentence.
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>>176127951
Mods maybe

Fun fight though
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>>176128737

What if Beastmen, Orcs, Ogres, Lizards, Skaven and Chaos Warriors were all girls?
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>>176128578
You've been able to do that since the game came out
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>>176125373
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>>176129545

I was referring to the triple gold chevron recruits
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>>176129981

>Not having them as your vassals
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>>176130389
>ever trusting elves, even for a second

well to each their own i guess but i'm not coming to your funeral.
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>>176130171
You can do that with any faction. Emp captain + tech + building will give you gold everything.
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>>176130801
It seems that many people don't realize this because they just use global recruiting.

Also, some factions only get to recruit silver units, not straight up rank 9 gold.
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>>176130801
>tfw optimizing e.g Wissenland to be able to recruit gold rank sword infantry.

I love doing this stuff in Shogun 2 too.
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>>176129134
I'm surprised I haven't come across any /tg/ writefaggotry about this very concept.

Could make for some interesting fapbait if nothing else.
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>passing by Athel Loren to get some elven pus
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>>176131608
/tg/ doesn't do anything anymore but complain
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>>176129134
That's a lot of femdom
>>
first time playing medieval 2 (or any TW)
should i use any mod or play vanilla first
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>>176131981
Being a TW virgin is the only way to enjoy M2 vanilla
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I actually like elves, i just dont like their location or system. I want an empire to expand, not just crappy outposts
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>>176132150
oops wrong pic hehe
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>>176131876
/tg/ went to shit when the 'muh christian values' bullshit made all fun illegal.

Though I think the /wst/ is still allowed on /d/, in a quie ironic inversion of the old meme that /tg/ is /d/-lite.
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>>176132371
>>176131876
Wrong.


/tg/ started dying when drawfags and writefags got the noose

No
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>>176132494
>No
Now it's a corpse*
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>>176036636
ummm tenenhuin???
>>
I wish the speed stats of units wasn't hidden in Shogun 2.

It seems like Light Cavalry should be pretty meh compared to Takeda Fire Cavalry, but I'm assuming Light cav is faster, right?

Also coming from Warhammer I was pretty fucking suprised to fight a battle vs. a bunch of horse archers and see them get charged by yari ashigrau without even trying to move out the way.
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Does anyone have a good strategy for early game Wood Elf Campaign on legendary? Its my last faction I need and I literally can't get past like turn 30-40. It comes crashing down so so hard. I think I'm ok with them, I micro them well in battle, even a few fights where im splitting up 3 or 4 groups of my archers and kiting units with them for a few minutes to win.

But I just can't survive. Should be noted I'm not using Durthu, but the actual Welf guy.
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>>176038680
arch plz leave
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>>176054273
>>When you forgot to bring your great helm
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Chilfoy and the fay enchantress set out to burn norsca to the ground
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>>176133146
What exactly makes you lose ? Many enemies at once ? And turn 30-40 , you manage to unite some of Ather Loren ? Because I am too at Mel Gibson Legendary.
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>>176129134
Slaanesh would win
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Down south louen is claiming estalia as rightful bretonnian clay and finds this
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>>176132494
>/tg/ started dying when drawfags and writefags got the noose
that is literally what
>>176132371
said.
There is still the note from the 'muh christian blue board' nazimod on /tg/'s frontpage.

No more /wst/? Sad, it was like the last shred of creativity left from old /tg/.
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>>176133657
No, Im stuck at trying to expand and field a half decent army to take on literally anyone else. I can generally pop parravon or something before turn 30ish and stuff. But I can't fight the other welf factions to try and build my econ cause they sit on their base with a 20 stack and a 16 man garrison while I just have my 20 stack.
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>>176133779
then louen remembered that for some reason squires destroy great swords for a fraction of the price
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>>176133819
I am trying to take control over Skarsnik house for extra money.I nearly made it but some rebels forced me to go back.
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>>176133819
Are you massing wild riders? They cost 50% less and kill everything. You might have to fight manually because auto resolve is bullshit.
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Now that was an exhilarating excercise in ASININING.
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>>176132150
>I actually like elves, i just dont like their location or system.
same, i love nature themed stuff in games but Amber and those shitty outposts need to fucking go, all game long rebellions too, this shit is gay as fuck
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>>176134378
is this on legendary? I think I'm pretty solid on this game but I don't think I could pull that sorta shit off. WE is my last legendary campaign I need and I can't even get past fuckin hard lmao. Maybe im just fuckin retarded.

Admittedly I go for a archer build, which I think most people do their first goes cuz elves, and I do pretty well with it until I just get out numbered heavily.
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>>176037191
At 190 turns, I think it's time to call it a win. I just don't have the heart anymore to grind out 30+ fights against chivalrous horsefuckers. Archaon has his full stack of CHOSEN to deal with Bretonnia, Kholek has four rank 8 Giants to smash apart the VC. Without Big Bird around to provide any real impetus to go forth, sadly this campaign must come to a close.

I love Chaos too much though. this time i'll use only Sigvald, 2 Exalted Heroes, 1 Death Sorc, and 16 Aspiring Champions. Maybe get the Slaaneshi reskin mod Indypride showcased and conquer the world in class.
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>>176134563
How did you take so many losses vs varg? I feel like your free companies/xbow/cycle charging reiksguard would just rip them to shreds.
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>>176134378
Bretpatch nerfed it to 20% less but they're still great.
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>>176132494
but i am drawfag and i am here, i even made some memes...
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>>176135015
Once exalted heroes get their mount its over. they're so absurdly strong.
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>>176135205
won't mount'm. foot slog baby, for better or worse
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>>176133779
>Grail knights with a razor standard

This is perfect
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>>176133518
is most of that chivalry norsca?
you can basically autoresolve win most early~~ norsca tribes and with tech you get added bonus
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>>176134563
the archlector select looks so fucking cool
i wish he was my dad
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What's the relationship between chaos and Vamps?

What happens when a Vamp drains a cultists or worshipper? Do they get more power for hunting down champions?

Can they raise the dead of chaos?

Would Khorne accept a Vampire? What about the other three?

What about chaos warped animals?
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>>176136354
They're opposite. Chaos wants entropy and emotion. Guess what do Vamps cause by turning everyone into undead automatons.
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>>176136495
Isn't 9.5/10 Vampires raging lunatics tho
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how do most undead settlements work?
is it just a bunch of skeletons working the fields/ doing other material things, or is it a bunch of of peasants turned into vampires?
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>>176136740
Same as a Brettonian village but with a few more corpses.
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>>176136662
Yeah, but those want to turn even more people into zombies, and 10 random lunatics rampaging around doesn't make up for the thousands of people they kill and whose emotions they deprive the gods from.
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>>176081420
That was the Jabberslythe
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>>176080334

>Ghorgons

Tuskgor chariots and Jabbermemes are both more relevant to add than a third flavor of giant.
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>>176134979
Wood elves aren't 'the archer faction'. Empire and dwarves have the best ranged units. Wood elves have mobility and monsters.
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>>176136354
Vlad was drinking Chaos champions left and right during the End Times. I don't think Vampires get any stronger from drinking blood, unless in special cases, like Abhorash and the dragon or when Melkhior (Necrarch) ate his sire W'soran (only to get possessed by his spirit).

Actually in the End Times the entire Blood Dragon line except Abhorash falls to Khorne. But then again End Times is a steaming pile of lore-breaking bullshit
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>>176136940
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>>176137281
>lore-breaking bullshit
>published by the owners

What did he meme by this
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>>176136134
Nah they haven't come south this game, most of that was from orcs and wood elves.

My trebs and nights are going to have fun here, the other two stacks are 90% infantry and dogs.
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You've bought this upon yourself, Snowmonkeys.
I've finally initiated stage 2 of summoning the Elector Counts.
This is the future you chose, ASININE NORSCAN.
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the gods will look ill on those who came so close to defeat
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>>176133819
I am turn 40 now. And I menage to take Skarsnik capital with half the troops he had. Orion is beast he killed 300+ gobbos.
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What flavor of bulging codpiece do you want to choke on?
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>>176136354

The Undead and Chaos are completely incompatible.
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>>176137447
only that when several decades of lore content is smashed to pieces in a few months and characters and entire factions are killed off or do crazy uncharacteristic shit it just so happens some fans don't think it is completely legitimate
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>>176137281
if Krell can be brought over to Nagash's will I don't see why the Blood Knights couldn't become Khornate, especially during chaos ascendancy.
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>>176137648
What are those little shields on your unit cards?
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>play wood elves for the first time
>intercept some beastmen fags in the woods
>autoresolve gives me a 90% chance of winning
>decide to play it because I want to see how good my archers are
>they can't hit anything for shit becuase the map is full of trees and my 'wood' elves are super shit at fighting in the woods
>get destroyed

I actually got mad.
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Is this a bug or some shit?

26 turns in and hattorri is willing to pay 15,000 for a trade agreement.
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>>176138447
I literally have no idea how could you lose 90% battle. Have you screen of armies ?
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>>176138504
forgot pic
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>>176138029
Krell was DEAD. The dead are vulnerable to necromancers. And again, the entire bloodline of Blood Knights, all of them, fell to the one thing they are resistant against.
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>>176138559
It was more like 60-40 in battle. The autoresolve bar was wrong which is weird because it usually gives me a low chance of winning no matter what I have. I was only playing on hard.

I was playing the elf mini campaign and I had the base orion units (I disbanded the expensive archer units with AP and magic damage) plus 3 shitty archers.

The beastmen had 8 units of spearmen, 2 archers, some centigors and something else.
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>>176127362
On my last Angrund campaign my global recruitment bar started a fourth row, actually.
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>>176138890
Without screen it's hard to say. But Orion is monster with his 2 AoE abilities with a little enemy blok you could eradicate alot of Beastman. Had you any Bladedancers ?
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How the fuck do you play Angrund

This bullshit upkeep mechanic makes it stupid fucking hard to make decent stacks.
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>>176138124
I've got a regional recruitment mod. I can get units in different faction colours once I get their settlements.
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>>176139246
Yeah but Dwarfs are still strong especially vs filthy Orcs.
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HOO
HAA
HOO
HAA
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Anyone hyped for skaven reveal soon? This here novel is pretty good https://www.dropbox.com/s/g96budsiv9gebj0/76276775-Warp-Spawn.pdf?dl=0
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>>176139339
Huh, thats pretty cool.

You got a link or name for that mod?
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>>176139124
I had Orion, 2 eternal guard units, 1 deepwood scouts unit, 3 glade guard archers units and one wild riders unit.

The enemy beastmen had 8 ungor spearmen units, 2 ungor herds, one centigor unit, 2 ungor raiders and a beastlord.

If I'm going to fight beastmen and elves I should just get more melee infantry because it's really hard to make use of archers in the worldroots maps.
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>>176140128
pretty hyped but also concerned about the roster at release. Skaven are really versatile but they rely on their more exotic units sometimes and it'd be a shame to have those behind a dlc, would really affect the quality of the campaign.
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tried the yari wall at the base of the fort tactic and it was pretty cool, I'm not sure how effective it is if you don't have matchlock units though.

It let my bowmen fire for way longer, but I think I would've had less loses if I'd have just kept them in the fort.
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>>176138795
>>176138795
They might be like Aborhash who abstain as much as they can, but they're also the most likely to go full Konrad when they finally do get a whiff of blood, else why would they get frenzy?
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>>176140128
>Skaven reveal
>soon
i want rats bro but they will blueball us to the end i think
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should i go on a warpath as bad moons gobbos or should i actually try to be diplomatic
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>>176140128
>Warpspawn
I want female Skaven wizard hero that isn't baby factory, just like in this.
Too bad nobody in CA will care.
There goes my rat waifu dream
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>>176140304
Yeah I don't like fighting in worldroot. It's like worse Underway. Many trees some small cliffs it's super dark and for some reason it's really heavy map I have really low fps there.
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>>176140304
Dryads are excellent against brets, beastmen, and elves. Before you try to take out an elf city you should get fire shaft arrows.

You owuld have to abuse the ai a lot to win that. Maybe if you sen orion out front on his own, the ungors would all crowd around him and you could massacre them with arrows. Meanwhile wild riders eliminate the centigores, then route the ungor raiders, then charge into their back line.

Typically, you need to have enough melee units to match their melee units, then add in ranged units to push advantages.
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>>176140224
It's called Lore Friendly Regional Recruitment, or something along those lines. It's a three part mod and it also adds new units too, but not all of them are in my game since I'm also using Steel Faith which seems to override it a little. It does it for Bretonnians and Dwarves too.
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>>176141539
My hope would be that they can fire/attack into allied units, like a gunner crew shooting through a melee between slave rats and enemies.

The roster is obviously important, but I'd prefer a greater focus on their core mechanics first and foremost, and patiently await a more complete roster later.
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>>176142291
stab them timmy, stab them all
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>>176142305
WAZZOCK !
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>>176142119
I'm betting E3, they're banking on reddit being indicative of which faction has the most appeal. If they were smart and browsed a forum that was a good mirror to the general public(like this one), they would know that it's Pontus.
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>>176142532
>Pontus.
you got me kekked
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>>176138504
>>176138683
>spend 15,000 to get a trade agreement with faction
>decides fuck it and declares war on faction next turn, after giving them enough money to improve ALL of their infrastructure whilst they were completely crippled by multiple wars.
Are Hattori the gobbos of Shogun 2?
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>>176142379
yeah if their campaign is really good I could handle a cut roster and the pestilens units would be fine as dlc alogn with some of the other less used units like doom flayers, jezzails and eshin stuff.
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>>176141594
>samurai retainers at 44 man
>while one of yari units is dead

Samurai retainers have really good stats, use them more, it doesnt really matter if they die in the process of defending your castle
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>>176142379
That and add the proper miscast chance for spells/skaven weapons'n'vehicles and steamtanks
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>>176142940
Yes definitely. I'd prefer a gimped roster but very good/unique/authentic to the tabletop mechanics, than a full roster and bland mechanics.

Because releasing units later is easy enough and something they've done already. Revamping a faction though or making new mechanics, that's a lot harder and less likely to happen.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75RUPdkyqp0

What's a good mod for NTW that isn't LME? I've already tried Darthmod and it was shit
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>>176143092
Yeah I know, they didn't actually get inside the walls though.

I did say in the post I tried the tactic where you put yari at the base of the fort wall which is basically sacrificing them.
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>siege with LITERAL trees
Damn man, Wood Elves really love trees.
This is so fucking weird
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>>176143907
Makes me wonder what the lizardmen siege towers are going to look like
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>>176143359
ntw3
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>>176105291
What's the dish of the day?
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>>176144120
Isn't that made for MP scenarios?
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>>176142119
>to the end i think

It's very possible they'll be announced at E3, or at the very least teased at E3. Remember CA revealed Chaos before they revealed the Vampire Counts. So I fully expect Tomb Kings pre-order reveal before Skaven.

>Attila revealed on September 25, 2014
>Pre-order and release date announced on November 25, 2014
>Released February 17, 2015

>Warhammer 2 revealed on March 31, 2017
>Pre-order and release date announced at E3 June 13-15, 2017
>Released September 2017
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>>176144010
Can't wait to see skinks climbing ladders using the same animations as everyone else.
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>>176144373
Warhammer 2 won't have sieges :)
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it would be cool if this game was a city builder
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>>176144507
I've been meaning to go pack and play Caesar 3
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>>176144373
In one of videos on YT they said they need to make new animations for Lizardman as motion capture from humans is not working for them.
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Post yfw next total war after WH3 is Age of Sigmar
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>>176144878
I mean after WH3 I will be sated with "normal" content so why not ? Of course if they will in the meantime make satisfying history title. If not pic related.
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>>176144878
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>>176144878
no smegma pls kthx
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>>176144507

go and play that TW kingdoms game then for mobile
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>>176144507

Aw shit, the Master of Olympus games were my fucking jam
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>>176144878
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>>176144878
Not interested 2bh
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Post meme armies
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>>176146978
Why are slayers so bad?

What do they do different in the tabletop?
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>>176147784
being turnbased
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>>176147784
They aren't bad


They are also great fire magnets on the tabletop for monsterhammer fuckers that spam high wound shit.
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>>176148058
Killing lots of zombies doesn't prove anything
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>>176148208
They fucking deleted all their monsters.

They had Vlad and Issy so they ganked a shitload of low armor slayers.
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>>176147784
Slayers should be remade into an aspiring champion sized squad. Dwarves dont beleive in pikes for what ever reason, so they need slayers for anti large in key areas.
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>>176147784

>le slayers are shit meme

wowiezowie, I didn't now this was October of last year.

Welcome to the current year gramps
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>>176146978
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>>176148524
>Welcome to the current year gramps

You mean the current year where slayers are still shit?
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Total war would be better if they got rid of the hard cap on units in an army
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>>176148852
I agree, but there should be soft cap with a supply cost per unit or something
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>>176148852
I think it would be better if heroes could lead skirmish sized armies, or reinforce garrisons even if it was just a certain kind of hero.
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>>176147784
>>176148809
Slayers aren't shit you retard.

Play online and every dwarf army you see will have 2-3 slayers, and if they don't you can be sure they probably suck.

Slayers in TWW are actually 100 times better than Slayers on TT. No one ever took them because cannons kill monsters better anyway and they were just as slow as any other dwarf. In TWW they have a very good role as anti-cav & flankers as well as being monster killers.

An army full of slayers is utter dogshit though and not even fun to use. You gimp yourself taking more than 4 in a stack.
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>>176149731
If dwarfs had any cheaper infantry anti-large they would probably see more use than slayers
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>>176149731
>Army full of Slayers

A few mods fix that fun issue

Most fun I had with Dwarfs was with All Tabletop Lords + Dragon Slayer Hero + Slayers of Karak Kadrin

About 100 angry naked gingers against 2000 strong armies of the dead

Bet on the gingers.
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When are we going to get back to historical TWs instead of fantasyshit?

Where's muh Victoria Total War?

>ywn American Civil War that isn't a shitty mod whose devs took off for War of Rights
>ywn Franco Prussian or Austro-Prussian war
>ywn go through the transition between muzzleloading smoothbore to breechloading single-shot rifle and experience the rise of artillery on the battlefield
>ywn go through the transition from age of sail to pre-dreadnought battleships and protected cruisers

FotS barely flicked my dick, now I'm stuck here with a half-chub waiting for the main event.
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>>176150632
>Franco Prussian or Austro-Prussian war
>American Civil War that isn't a shitty mod whose devs took off for War of Rights
>go through the transition from age of sail to pre-dreadnought battleships and protected cruisers
>go through the transition between muzzleloading smoothbore to breechloading single-shot rifle and experience the rise of artillery on the battlefield

All of this sound like immeasurable snorefest and gayness
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>>176150632

You faggots are worse than the "Muh pike-n-shot" people
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>>176150957
If you don't like it you can stick to Dungeons and Dragons Total War if you like. I'm not the boss of you anon.
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>>176148852
Army Size in TW has always bothered me.
>have massive doomstack
>this stack can crush most other armies on the map
>said stack consists of 2200 men.
In my head every man on a TW battle field is standing in for 10 men, just so my armies are close to historical sizes.
It bothers me the most in The Great War mod.
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>>176151065

>"Muh pike-n-shot"

There is a severe lack of any good pike-n-shot era games that aren't niche as fuck.
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>>176151068
>Let me complain about this thing I don't like
>Hey wait. Stop complaining about my thing you don't like
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>>176151068
i hate history that goes past Medieval.

Ancient and Medieval is the best, rest can go fuck off
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>>176151254
Maybe because pike-n-shot is an inherently shit era for a videogame?

You can make a good videogame about everything, but some things are harder than others, especially when the topic at hand is a boring piece of shit era even historians agree was a boring piece of shit era as far as land warfare was concerned
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>>176151068
>When are we going back to history instead of fantasyshit
>Hey I'm not the boss of you

Funny, you were trying to be.

Your suggestions were shit you subhuman garbage, don't try and hide just because you got called out on it
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>>176151254

Pike and Shot era warfare is like a solved board/card game where everyone uses the same strategy/deck and the only determining factor is slight variances in execution.

It's fucking boring.
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>>176099630
>Using peasants as bretonnia
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>>176042241
>>176038125
>>176037594
>>176036951
I need that folder.
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>>176152249
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>>176152249
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>>176150632
Don't worry buddy soon you will get reveal of Total War China.
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>>176150156
Probably, but they wouldn't replace them.

If dwarfs had an armoured spearmen unit you'd probably see them completely replace warriors but you'd still see slayers because they're great on flanks.

You can't flank & chase with any other dwarf unit because they're too slow, apart from GW rangers, but they're vulnerable to cav.

>>176150306
>hey you can mod the game with OP shit to have fun with a monotonous army :D!
An army full of slayers shouldn't be fun because all you have are flankers and no front line to flank for.

The fun of using slayers is using them alongside your normal army to get fuckloads of kills with such a glass cannon unit, any mod that means you can take an army of them and still do well is stupid as shit.

If that's the most fun you've had with dwarfs you should learn to build funner armies.
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>>176152249
More coming.
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>>176149731
>online

Who let the retard in here?
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>>176152249
I got no more
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am i the only one who prefers unit size all the way down to medium? and no my comp aint shit. I tried ultra size and it's more cinematic and shit but I dunno I don't like it. Also the larger unit sizes make my ultimate minor settlements mod fucked up cuz the armies can't fit inside
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Tuesday is the day!
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>>176116662
Vlad gets all skellies
Isabela gets all the monsters and they always fight together.
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>page 9
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>>176122732
I already do this as Welves.

I kill off the initial beastmen, make peace with everyone and just go to norsca.
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>>176137853
What mod and how does the added place of origin on units influence the gameplay?
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Can it be done?

My son & heir's on the line.
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>>176114728
Doesn't China suffer from a lack of unit variety?
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>>176152390

>The Reikland Rapist
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>>176154442
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>>176154442
rip son and heir
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I lost the beastmen campaign

I was doing fine, I got ambushed by fucking boris on turn 28 and I lost

am I retarded? I thought these campaigns were really easy
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>>176154442

Fuck no.
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>>176154948

Nah I also got ambushed as beastmen and lost

The irony

Anyway there is a sure way to never lose these campaigns, just send one stack north in chaos territory and hide it forever
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>>176154442
If you're unable to retreat, then fight it out manually and hope you survive or bloody their nose.
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>>176154442


rip :"(
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>>176155652
>>176155652
>>176155652
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>>176154442
Your only hope is to make this battle as much of a blood bath as you possibly can.
At least then your son will die with his honor intact!
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>>176143897
Yeah, i misunderstood your post, sorry.
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