/twg/ - Total War General

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>Potentially up to 7 months without TWH2

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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!

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So this is where Skavenblight is, yes?
I wonder if it becomes starting position in TWW2

Is there any Dwarf model reskin mod ? I found one really cool but Ironbreakers look like shit.

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Total War: Age of Sigmar when?

>>176155897
Yes but I guess there will be some Clan nest in Lustria as starting base or in Southlands. As Skavenblight is "capital" of skaven it's not like only important place. Every Clan has it's main Nest.

>>176155897
Tilea confirmed for about to go from the most comfy to the worst of the secondary faction starting positions.

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>An all slayer army would be te-

Fucked Bitchchosen and three doomstacks

>>176155970

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=755893565

Not really an overhaul reskin but it gives the Dwarf clans loreful shield patterns

Post good tw feels

>Chosokabe pays 25,000 for trading with you because you have horses

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>>176156306
Now say "Thank you Kislev"

>>176156306
This is literally impossible unless you got some crazy mods. Slayers with their lack of armor and AP dmg got no shit on Chosen.

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nth for Gelt did nothing wrong

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>>176156753
>when Chosen with GW get into melee

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>look girls, it's an Ulric worshipper

>>176156806
There walls were a big help.

All of the northern men are pretty much dead but I stand with Kislev.

Al they have left is their capital.
>>176156848
Nope.

I just had some walls thanks to my Kislev bros.

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>>176156848
with that eco he has to be playing on easy or some shit

>>176156856
But he literally did nothing wrong, it's just that the manlet fucked everything up for everyone

>>176157035
VH

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>>176155897
>>176156093

My guess is that Quetza will be the skaven stronghold in Lustria. Hell-Pit in Kislev will probably also be in the game. Under-Altdorf might also be present.

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KHAZUKAN KHAZAKIT-HA!!!

Rank Shogun 2 campaigns from hardest to easiest.

I've only done Ikko Ikki & Takeda so far and out of them Takeda seems way harder.

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>>176157245
>MAN THINGS
>ELF THINGS
>DWARF THINGS
>GREEN THINGS
>DEAD THINGS
>THINGS

>THINGS

>tfw still can't remember the lore of shadow spells

>>176156964

Simgarites converting Ulric worshipping northerners through "unorthodox" means when?

>>176156806
I'd thank her in her tent later.
Repeatedly.

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>tfw good relation Archaon is polite

>>176157810
>tfw you're mom let's Archaon into your basement when your not around
>tfw he likes it

After playing 700h it's time to look for more cool mods. Theres no cool mods.
I want some fucking maps but huge campagin map pack loads only 50% of it's components and the rest are frozen at 99%. I don't want manually download shitload of maps because mod browsing in Launcher is shit.

>>176157463
>easiest
Chosokabe and Shimazu are EZmode because of their position

>hardest
Uesugi and Tokugawa take the cake for having the worst early games

Too many factions to rank, Takeda is on the harder end, Ikko Ikki is very doable if you can get used to their different playstyle

>>176159429
I am just too dumb for Ikko Ikki and Uesugi.

post your opinion on the Total War games you played

>Rome 1
+great simplicity, runs on a toaster, very replayable
-awful movement in sieges, many siege related bugs, awful battle AI, game engine only uses 1 core

>Medieval 2
+probably most optimized total war game
-idk didnt play much

>Shogun 2
+Decent AI and sea battles
-AI cheats in the campaign
-FoTS broke online balance

>>176157810
he will kill you and take over your warherd

>>176157256
hey wait a second you're not mad jack

this durthu guy is a fucking tree

must suck getting killed by a tree

>>176160481
>FOTS broke online balance

Who's idea was it to have modern armies fight traditional ones?

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>>176160524
Then the answer is obvious,

>>176157810
Kill Archaon and wipe his armies, after wards disband you're troops and heroes, recruit ungors and faf about in the badlands.

>>176160914
I wonder.
All my experiences in onlinee go something like this:
>make all-around balanced japanese army
>realizee enemy only has 1 elite unit with firearms
>they kill all of my troops with 80 men
sometimes i even managed to get close by just getting so much cheap troops that they cant kill all of them
shameful balance

Is Radious Total War good for Attila, or does it have the same problems his Warhammer mods have?

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>>176162889
Radious was well known for his fuckery before TW:WH, I know this despite warhams being my first TW game.

What's better in terms of general gameplay? Empire or Napoleon ?

>>176163553
Between the two of them, Napoleon. For gunplay in general, FotS.

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G O B L I N S

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>>176164958

E M P E R O R S

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where on this map does sigvald live?

>>176165096
Only daemons and ascended mortals live there

>>176165231
Oh, well wheres the gilded palace he got gifted from slaanesh?

>>176165096
Chaos mini-campaign containing all of this shit when?

>>176165406
Never, no one can go there and survive let alone campaign through it

>>176165356
Probably somewhere in the Chaos Wastes

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Rate my flowchart (WIP)

1000 hours in mspaint

>when you realize Archaon doesn't have a gap in his gorget and it's actually just horrible fucking clipping in his portrait
I thought this asshole couldn't get any worse

>>176165685

Not bad.

>>176159657
ikko ikki have great starting provinces and have an even better version of the already ridiculous rebellion mechanics, which allows you to get free garrison forces in provinces that successfully rebel. In addition loansword ashigaru are great and the insane numbers of ikko ikki ashigaru + the fear stacking abilities of the monk troops means you can rout armies almost instantaneously

>>176165685
>tolkien fantasy
>not TATW
>classical antiquity linking to Attila

subpar - see me after class

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wot da zog

Goblins > Orcs

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>>176167703
Who could be behind this post?

>>176167493
Perfidious floppy-hat merchants

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>>176167703

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post these
http://store.steampowered.com/recommended/friendactivity/

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>>176167962

never forget the 6 bazillion oy vey!

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>>176155652
weebs burn in hell

>>176165096
>the bad moon

What the fuck?

Is Cataph's magic mod still necessary for Warhammer? Haven't played the game for 6 months.

>>176167357
i dont plan on adding any mods
if i did it would take me 10 times longer
im sure someone can do mod-specific flowcharts for each game

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>>176169019

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Can i do it bros?
If not then my campaign dies

>>176170332
how can you possibly have only 2 friends on steam

>>176165685
>tolkien fantasy
>warhammer

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>

>>176170470
>orc
>trolls
99% of medieval fantasy is based on tolkien
LOTR, Warhammer... you name it, its all based on the huge influence tolkien had.

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>>176170660
>LOTR is based on tolkien
do you think about what you type before you post

>>176170721
never

>>176170449
rip worst elves

>>176170456
I don't play multiplayer. Those 2 are people I know irl.

>>176169493
It sort of just randomly flies around the cosmology of the setting, passing through the Chaos realm, the Elven gods' realm, human gods' realm, etc...

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>>176169493
S C H E M E S

>>176170843
i can tell because you said warhammer is "tolkien fantasy"

>>176171239
it isnt?
i mean, all these kind of universes like Warcraft, Warhammer, Dungeons and Dragons... they are all based on Tolkien right?

>>176169493
dem chaos gods got STABBED

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>autism wont let me conquer settlement until i've completed all the chapter side missions
>quit campaign

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Total War: CHOINA

>>176165096
Is this where all the Chaosfags chill out when they're not raping their way across the actual world?

What is life like in the Chaos realms? Is it like the Christian hell? Is it a pretty chill place for everyone on board? Is there agriculture and trade? A culture?

>>176170449
did you win mate

>>176173248
Ye, i reloaded quicksave though and moved reinforcements i forgot about

>>176172998
Daemons, mortals who became Daemon Princes, Tzeentch's and Nurgle's domains would be the most chill places but you still don't want to go to either of them, there is no trade or agriculture worth mentioning, I would assume it's not like the most commonly depicted version of christian hell since that specifically serves as punishment for bad people, the chaos realms just are just there, fun fact; there have been multiple non-chaos aligned mortals who've gone there and are either surviving or came back, having said that the only one who's name I can recall off the top of my head at the moment is the chameleon skink Oxyotl, who doesn't talk anymore.

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>>176172998

Not exactly. Nobody, except for deamons and mortals who have ascended, lives in the realms of the Chaos gods.

The Chaos Warriors, as in, the ones that wear all that heavy plate armour, hang out in the Chaos Wastes, at the North Pole. They apparently just fight forever here until the next invasion.

Norscans and some other peoples, like the Kurgans, live in Norsca and in other areas close to, but usually not inside of, the Chaos Wastes.

>>176155834

it hurts

>>176174224
>>176174562
So from what I understand, the nicer places in the Chaos realms are chill and pretty pleasant, but it's for the 1%.

The 99% just fight endlessly amongst themselves until it's time to fuck real shit up?

If there's no trade or anything, where does all the Chaos gear come from? Who forges the swords? The armor? The chariots? I'm sure fresh converts bring some with them, and I'm sure spoils of war provide some more, but surely that can't fuel the entire Chaos war machine, can it?

>>176165685
Why would anyone need this

Old Friend is...

>>176155652
>anime op image completely unrelated to total war

stop

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>play empire total war for the first time
>chose Russia
>after two turns immediately come to a better understanding of the current events with Putin's shit he pulled in Crimea

Also what the fucking shit happened to Sweden?

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>>176176348

Short answer? Chaos Dwarfs.

Long Answer?

http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Armour

>>176176995

>after two turns immediately come to a better understanding of the current events with Putin's shit he pulled in Crimea

What exactly happened?

>Also what the fucking shit happened to Sweden?

?

>>176176348
Lot's of Chaos gear is made by the Chaos Dwarfs. Other stuff is just popped into existence by the will of the gods or made by daemons someway or morphed from corrupted normal gear.

>>176176438
to know what total war games to try baseed on their interests
share it with your friends

>>176155652
Fuck off with your cancerous OP image. Who is this slut anyway? Same shitter as last time. Lets not be like every other shitty general please.

>>176174224
>>176176348
>Places to survive in the Realms of Chaos

If you have the magical abilities to fly and can withstand constant existential dread, The Drifting Castle is pretty safe. Just don't stay there too long though since items there decay at a rapid pace due to some magical dust covering everything.

>>176176348
Norscans have smiths among them who make their own shit. Sometimes they even trade with the civilized world with meats, furs, and plundermoney.

The heavy metal shit is forged by Chaos Dwarf daemonsmiths and it fucking fuses to their body and the warriors live out the rest of their lives as killing machines.

>>176155976
Soon, after W3 which will be the End Times

>>176172890
Total War shit setting more like

>>176177085
>ywn be a chorf and spend all day in your comfy demonforge making the most metal shit you can imagine every day until the end times

>>176165685
>Tolkien
>Warhammer
I will come to your house and slam /a/ reaction images into your mail box until you get really annoyed

>>176170660
>99% of medieval fantasy is based on tolkien
No it isnt you dumb uneducated fucking git

Thats like saying the whole of the English language came from a 2017 copy of the Dictionary

Tolkien just took preexisting mythology and merged it into his own story, orcs/trolls/goblins/elves/dwarfs are NOT unique to Tolkien at fucking all. In fact parts of this are literally hundreds to over a thousand years before Tolkien was alive.

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>>176179628

Feels bad, mang.

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>>176180078
>whats better than a suit of armor?
>well a suit of armor merged to your flesh!
Fucking chaos dwarfs

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Why is Macedon so based? One of the coolest factions in Total War history.

>>176172890
china would only be good if it was set in the 1000-1500s, and had expansions that included all of eurasia.

has anyone tried the storm of chaos mod?
is it good?

>>176180839
China is only good as a figment of peoples imaginations

>>176180805
Well it's not really the chaos dwarfs. The dark gods are just dicks and do it to their followers for using cursed satan armor.

>>176180838

Phalanx and heavy cav.

Guys, I need an interesting restriction or idea for my next campaign. Everything is getting boring and I need to keep myself going.

something like one-stack greenskins or peasant mob only brett, but doable

>>176182778
Cav heavy army only. No Bretonnia.

Empire would be interesting, or Orcs.

>>176182778
Goblin-only greenskins, except you can't play as Crooked Moon, confederate with Crooked Moon, or recruit Night Goblin Warbosses.

>>176182778
Lord and hero units only army. Use a mod that removes the hero cap.

does anyone elses campaign map start to lag after a while?

I can play usually for around 30-40 minutes and out of nowhere the campaign map FPS will drop pretty hard,

>>176183583

Can't say I've had anyhting like that, though I'm running on an SSD, that might have something to do with it.

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>>176155834
>potentially up to 3 years without History
It kills.

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>>176172890
C H I N A

>Total War: China
>Total War: Victoria
>Total War: Medieval 3

All these games will take 3+ years to make each. SEGA could go under by then. Total War could die.

>>176185227
>>Total War: Medieval 3
gud mem

>>176184435
Fantasyfags had to go 15 years without fantasy, suck it up

>>176183583
Total War performance drops in funny ways for me. I had once where the actual graphics of the campaign map were rendering just fine and dandy, but the whole UI was lagging. Strange!

>>176185559
>what are mods
>implying anyone cared before warhammer was announced

>>176184435
So orderly and neat. I would expect more sprawl and mess and poor people smelly buildings

>>176186127
Well it is an artistic interpretation.

>>176186308
Glad photographs made artists obsolete!

>>176186058
So you're saying historyfags should be satisfied with just mods for a measly three years? I agree.

Is armor worth taking when leveling up lords? playing as empire.

>>176186481
I think we're well into our 2nd year. Soon the 2nd last fantasy game will come out and you will only have 1 more game to look forward to muhahahahah

>>176185559
>series that was always history

>>176183032
I think I have a winner, if for no other reason than the restriction level. Thank you three for the ideas.

>>176171239
Do you even know what you are talking about?

>>176171634
Not really... no.

>>176171634
>i mean, all these kind of universes like Warcraft, Warhammer, Dungeons and Dragons... they are all based on Tolkien right?
Sure thing anon

But only if you admit all modern literature is based on the cave man drawings

>>176186594
>Soon the 2nd last fantasy game will come out and you will only have 1 more game to look forward to muhahahahah
If you think CA is going to drop fantasy after Warhammer became their most renown TW game you are more idiotic than Mannfred

They will do more fantasy stuff. Or more likely after the third game they start adding the minor factions to Warhammer. But fantasy isnt going anywhere, its a staple of TW now.

>>176171634

In the sense that they steal a few concepts and names, sure.

In the details, the themes and the mood of the setting? Not at all.

Warhammer is extremely pulpy in it's approach, Tolkien is not. I don't think I've heard anyone seriously call Warhammer Tolkienesque fantasy before.

Skaven = Lizards > HE > DE

You know its true

>>176189836
dark elves a best! dark shards spam will be GLORIOUS

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>>176189836
Elves>Furfags.

>>176189932
>>176189976
WHY DONT YOU GO GET RAPED BY A HYDRA YOU SHIT SHIT ELF THING THINGS

>>176189836
>>176189976
NO WAIFU FAGS, FUR FAGS, AND SCALIES AREN"T WELCOME HERE!

>>176190198
Lizardmen aren't scalies you not-part-of-the-plan-fool. They are robots.

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Norscan shits get off of my lawn

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D A W I
A
W
I

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>>176189976
>Knife ears

I believe we, the Dawi, should apologize to the elves for our crimes against them. We should also burn that stupid book of ours. No more grudges!

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>>176190586
Someone update this now.

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>>176190586
RATS AND LIZBROS WONT STAND FOR THIS

>>176177902
What do you mean not like every other general? Someone on /twg/ assured me there was no board culture on /vg/ desu senpai

>>176190804
Lets be honest here /twg/ and stalker are the only good generals here

M&B would get an honorable mention if they had a game

8th edition went too far and even then princesses weren't a generic lord choice. #NotMyUlthuan

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KHAZUKAN KHAZAKIT-HA!!!

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By ze lady!

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>>176191149
>ever since release people have been calling slayers shit
>people actually believe it still, a bunch of patches later
>idiots continuously charging their cav and large units into slayers and watching them melt
I wish we could get a generic slayer lord and slayer hero

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Hey /twg/, what historical sites have you visited so far?

I've been to the following roman sites: Lucus Augusta (Lugo), Augusta Emerita (Mérida) and the Acueduct of Segovia

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>>176191532
Lucus Augusta was one of the best. They have a museum with a recreation of a roman street and domus, and they celebrate a roman cosplay party called Arde Lucus
The Theater of Mérida was also very memorable.

I've also seen some pre-roman celtic ruins, visiting the Castros in Galicia and related museums. Also since I live in Spain I've seen countless castles from the middle age.

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Kislev did fuck all that battle

I did all I could.

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Oh yes

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>>176192460

>mfw Hellstorm Rocket Battery

>>176192214

>Those chariot kills

BEYOND

YOUR

COMPREHENSION

what settings can I change to improve load times? I have an ssd, that shit just needs to be faster as it's triggering my autism. I thought small unit sizes would do the trick

>>176191328

the only thing that ever melts are my slayers

maybe I am stupid for trying to use them like cavalry, and flanking

half the time they don't have anything to do since the npc cav are missile users, and their monster units are almost always dead already from massed thunderer quarreler spam

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>>176191319

>>176193697
that is my exact army composition for fey enchantress

>>176193697
>>176194282
>having more than 5 (five) peasants in your army
Unchivalrous, the lot of you.

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>Gelt in charge of recruitment

>>176192560
having an ssd makes things load in like 5 seconds on highest settings, you probably have some other bottleneck

>>176193697
Honestly didn't think you'd be able to do it, but I've never play the Betties, yet.

>>176195364
loading into the campaign takes like twice as long if that's a hint

>>176195401
Yeah I was a little worried myself but having arty made the AI rush me asap, if they waited and got a full 40 unit horde going on it would have been a different story.

>>176188934
Pfft not without licenses.

>>176184435
I swear if they don't keep the real time settlement system of Rome 2 and Attila with settlements changing based on culture and expanding to their historical limits. I'm not buying it. Anything else is a step backwards.

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>10 weeks tomorrow since Bretonnia
>Still no sign of Old Friend.
>mfw

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>Stunties on this side of the southern straights

Not on my watch

>>176197142
Thanks Captain Obvious how the hell do you think Warhammer got made

Im bored /twg/

Whats the best (loosely based) historical action movies out there

>>176198993
Lord of the Rings 1-3

>>176199117
>historical

>>176198993
300
Troy
Red Cliff (the uncut ~5 hours movie)
Waterloo

>>176198993
Troy

>>176199184
>(loosely based)

>>176199267
lotr is not even (((loosely based))) on history m8

>no kingdom of heaven director's cut suggestions

>>176199267
Anon if someone came up to you and said their anus was loose and then their brain dropped out their asshole you wouldnt say they were loose

LotR wasnt quite what I was asking for

>>176199359
>that analogy

a food analogy would've been better, lad

>>176199392
Okay then

If someone came up to you and said their anus was loose then their brain dropped out their asshole and landed on a sandwich you wouldnt say they were loose

>>176199267

LoTR is (very) loosely based on European mythology.

It isn't based in history at all.

Having just played Dawn of War 3 for an hour really makes me appreciate just how good a job CA did with Total Warhams. Really puts Relic to shame.

>>176199752
Getting a nail shot through your skull would be more enjoyable than playing DoW3

>>176199789
>>176199752

What in flying fuck were they even thinking?

Did Relic undergo a collective lobotomy and forget how to make video games or is it some corporate meddling shit?

>>176199789
Why's DoW3 getting that much hate?
Not a 40k fan but I've mostly read positive things about DoW1&2

>>176199789
Every negative thing /v/ said abut the game turned out to be true. Who'da thunk it.

Also, heavy cover points, magic stealth clouds, what the fuck is going on. What were they thinking. All I've ever wanted is Company of Heroes but 40k.

>>176199510
It was a prediction of Orcs (Mudslimes and Niggers) invading the west and raping it (Europe)


America is the undying lands cause we got freedom and shit.

>>176199996
>What in flying fuck were they even thinking?
I haven't checked, but I highly suspect the people who made 1/2 are not a part of Relic anymore.

It is also very obvious their brief was
>Make a MOBA, but also put in base building from DoW 1and heroes from DoW 2

>>176200038
Fundamentally; its a shit RTS game. The unit variation is worse than 1 and 2, the number of units you can use is terrible. The base 'building' is basically non existent, and the reliance on micro is overwhelming. Lots of cool fun features like matched combat are missing, the graphics are downright worse than 2, the campaign is the worst of the entire series because you cant choose what race to play and the entire thing is a tutorial. But I guess the core reason, the one that applies to all modern RTS games, is that this offers nothing that older games dont already offer. Even TW with its frequent reskinning of previous games at least has a different setting to make the games feel like alternatives to each other, DoW3 is downright just worse than 1 and 2.

Ironically, had they just made a MOBA this would have been fine. The core gameplay is made to play like one.

>>176200047
I would blame the community as much as Relic. Its probably one of the worst communities out there, right next to LoL.

Bunch of whiny babies

>>176200347
People don't know what they want.

Video game developers should just stop listening to people.

>>176200047


that's an outright lie though anon
I actually bought the game and after playing a heap this is how it plays.

DOW 1 but imagine if last stand mode heroes were hacked into multiplayer, complete with power levels.

That describes it.
anyway back on total war where the shit is the old friend, now that the hypes over it is the worst. I have a bad feeling they will wait till e3 or some nonsense for it to be released.

>>176200229
DoW 3 looks more like DoW 1 than what DoW 2 did. It looks fine overall, but the map selection is so fucking bad.
>>176200047
> heavy cover points

There was something similar in dawn of war 1.

> All I've ever wanted is Company of Heroes but 40k.

A lot of people didn't like DoW 2 2bh

>>176200506
I want to play as Lizzies and Rattos on the new map so bad.

I'm running out of things to try in the Old World.

>>176200586
>I want to play as Lizzies and Rattos on the new map so bad.
only 7 months to go anon

>>176200506
Today is day

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>>176200630

>>176200639
today is a day anon, but THE day. I think not.


>>176200630
rip

>>176200676
>>176200752
Of course W1 was delayed by months just before release

So see you in 2018 for W2!

How long until they run out of art designs to show?

>>176189976
It's true. Fug elves. Animals go.

>>176200853
I wouldn't mind so much. Let them take the time to make it as Quality as possible.

>>176200868
>15 to 20 units per faction
>3 factions shown
Sooo, 45 to 60?

So in other words we'll be getting Warhammer 2 after Bannerlord and Dragons Dogma 2 but before Half Life 3 and L4D3

>>176200896
>quality
>as possible
>ca
>quality
Funny funny manthing

>>176200948
Where are they showing this arts ?

>>176201034
on their twitter

its also on the news feed for w1 on steam

>>176197841
>no last Greenskins vs. Empire Lord pack
>Old Friend never ever

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Today...

>>176201320
>imagine if Rome 2 wasnt a disaster
>CA never would have gotten desperate
>Warhammer never would have happened
Thank you historyfags for giving us warhammer

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Is that rat on pic ?

>>176201379

No, that's Teclis sneaking up on Malekith to put it in his butt

>>176201359
>Release: 3 September 2013
They've been working on Warhammer since 2012, soooo?

>>176201379
Those glaves on the right are Skaven. There is no way those are HE or DE, lizards dont have glaves either.

They've already 'leaked' the fact its a two sided cover (dur), so skaven are on the back

>>176201379
https://webmshare.com/play/8eLrZ

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>>176201542
you're probably right but Saurus spears actually look a little bit like that,

>>176201462
>They started working on adapting an established, 20+ year series and it suddenly blew up while they were in development

That mustve been surprising

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So what will be high tier HE, DE and Lizards melee infantry unit ?

>>176202212
High Elves have swordmasters (2h swords), phoenix guard (halberds), white lions of Chrace (2 h axes). Dark elves have Executioners and Blackguards. Lizardmen have Temple Guard.

>>176202212
Phoenix Guard, Black Guard and Temple Guard.

>>176202440
How many layers of guard are you on

>>176202212
>Lizardmen
Dinosaurs riding on dinosaurs
>High Elves
Phoenix Chariots (Bolt Throwers)
>Dark Elves
Cold One Knights (Linkin Park & Brooding)

>>176202413
>swordmasters (2h swords), phoenix guard (halberds), white lions of Chrace (2 h axes)
Just a friendly reminder that all of these units will be inevitably nerfed to oblivion due to MP shitters bitching and moaning

Grail Knights (Carnosaurs, Trollhamer torpedo, Lore of life)

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>Swordsmasters
>not in their own tier above high tier

>>176202632
retards like you fucked up mp more than the mp shitters with your constant bitching about wood elves after release, because you couldn't stand the fact that welves didn't murder everything from across the map with ease, causing CA to rush a hotfix to ease your butthurt that made elves retardedly strong

>>176202632
>nerfed
>implying they won't cost 1.5k gold and be as useless in mp as Chosen

>>176202212
>HE
Phoenix Guard (Halberd anvil), White Lions (2H axe infantry) and Swordmaters (Elven jedi)
>DE
Black Guard (Halberd), Executioners (2H Great Weapon) and Sisters of Slaughter (light armored and DOUBLE POISONED DAGGERS)
>Lizardmen
Temple Guard (Halberd&Shield, nearly Chosen tier in terms of stats)

>>176202625

None of those are infantry you fucking goober

>>176202926
:v)

>>176202632

Reminder that being appropriately costed=/=being "nerfed"

>>176202993
>chosen
>appropriately costed
>1400 gold
>really good melee stats
>but
>only 75 leadership
>not immune to psy
>only 80 models
>can get tired
>no ward save
>dies just as good any other infantry to any AA tools

>>176203165
honestly the only problem there is that they aren't immune to psychology

Fucking brettonian peasants are more resilient than the chosen of the chaos gods thanks to the way beloved son of brettonia used to be (map wide immunity to psychology) and now the grail reliquae

Ok what is the meaning of this balance of power. I mean not this one colored part but this that is half mine half enemy ?

>>176202764
>Play a faction on the eastern half of the map on woodelves op patch
>First 40 turns are business as usual, aside from 3 back to back confederations
>Encounter Durthu in the middle of fucking nowhere
>20+ settlements, rank 1 strength
>Roaming elf armies and agents everywhere
>Lose all will to play

Dark times indeed

>>176203165

Just get Arch Warhammer the Everchosen to give them immune to psychology.

>>176203435
What ? For me it was amazing. I like new elves mostly sitting in forest. But man this "preassure" I knew no matter who I fight. In the end it will be me and elves. They were strong aggresive way more dangerous than some chaos invasions.

>>176202732
Damn, if you could only see the things going through my mind when I set my eyes upon that elf...

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Ogre Mercenaries when?

To best represent 8th edition TT rules for Dark Elves/High Elves and their special rules they have when fighting each other, what could CA give them?

High Elves get a big leadership bonus when fighting Delfs?

Dark Elves get a big attack/weapon strength bonus when fighting Helfs?

>>176203583
he is referring to the way the elves used to be before they were patched to be passive, where they would go on massive wars of expansion and basically fuck everyone's shit up, especially if you were playing empire

>>176203553
It won't affect the multiplayer, though. And their lack of immunity in singleplayer doesn't really affect them, because they are your line infantry there, instead on an elite choice

>>176203643
>wanting every army in the game to have access to a bunch of fat cunts that are instantly recruitable
>wanting every ai stack to have 3-4 ogres in it bc ai can't into army comp

hopefully never

>>176203583
This >>176203752

I know what you mean about having a late game threat that's worthy of the name but I find welves to be the biggest pain to fight, barring 18 chariot stacks.

>>176204090

I'd hope CA would learn from their mistakes with the RoR and find a way to make it so you could only recruit the mercenaries from certain places and only for a certain time.

>Event where Ogres Merc teams stop in certain areas and you can recruit them.

>>176204206
>I'd hope CA would learn from their mistakes

>>176204104
Really ? I always liked fighting elves. It was hard and annoying they had elite troops and big armies which was forsing me to make special armies or to think more during battles. None other races gave me this. Maybe Archaon chosen stacks but it was anyway more frontal battle than half archer armies of elves.

>>176204206
>>176204365
There was this game Lords of the Realm 2 very old but good strategy game kinda similar to TW when I know think about it. There were traveling bands of merceneries that if they stopped in one of your provinces you could hire them from there. It would be cool in TW:Warhammer even as DLC.

>>176204567
oh I agree, my legendary toddbringer campaign went to shit thanks to wood elf reich beginning just as chaos real invasion stirred, middenheim and nordland were standing alone against the combined doomstacks of chaos+welf

and the worst part was welf could win sieges.
I actually had to ambush them all throughout the burned out territories with rag tag damaged armies to keep them from hitting middenheim.

I enjoyed the challenge, almost lost.

>>176203165
>>only 80 models

They should have a lowish model count, but their stats should be buffed to compensate.

I really like what Steel Faith Overhaul does with the elite units. Most of them got a even smaller unit size, but they are really dangerous.

E.G Greatswords feels way more like a "bodyguard" and shock troop unit.

>Gelt armor-debuffs the enemy lord
>My greatsword unit and Gelt wrecks the enemy lord in no time.

Felt good.

>>176204365
>CA
>learn from
>their mistakes

>>176198993

Gladiator

>>176198993
Ironclad is worth a watch, Kingdom of Heaven directors cut if you haven't seen it. 300 sequel imo is watchable and alexander is maybe worth it.

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>>176205173

>Ironclade
>Kingdom of Heaven

>>176205253
Lindy
calm down
listen
Lindy
think of the spandaus
and calm
down

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Why does it take them so long to finally release an Old Friend? If it is going to be solely Boris with Middenland faction then it is not worth waiting for 8 weeks.

>>176205173
These films are actually extremely appropriate for /twg/ since they aren't all that bothered about historical accuracy for its own sake.

They tell interesting stories and get it close enough.

Definitely second watching the directors cut of kingdom of heaven, much better than the theatrical release

>>176203721
Probably best done through the trait system so the more you fight dark/high elves the more bonuses your commanders get versus them.

Dwarfs & orks need something like this as well. It's nice when your general gets "Hates Greenskins" but given they have special rules on tabletop about hating greenskins I think it should be more of a definite.

>>176198993
Master and Commander is a must-see, not to everyone's liking but it really nails the atmosphere of a napoleonic man'o'war

>>176204206
I don't get why they didn't use the regional merc pool for RoR's desu.

Half of the RoR's are tied to a location by name or by lore at least so it wouldn't be that hard to figure out where each one goes.

>Surtha Ek

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>>176205880
>asinine mortals

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STUFF!
>its concept art for high elves

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>>176206424

>White Lions

Objectively best Elves.

How can other elves even compete?

>>176206424
Aren't White Lions usually depicted as a bit buffer than that?

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>louen tanks 5 units of thunderers and an organ gun without breaking a sweat

:^)

>>176203768
Arch Warhammer gives them immunity to psych in multiplayer too though

They still aren't worth it even then though ;)

>>176206424

WHITE LIONS!

FUCK YES!

I was so worried they weren't gonna get in. I know for sure phoenix guard, swordmasters and dragon princes will be in but I was so worried about the best unit not making the cut initially.

>>176206565

Only in your fantasies you perverted slut.

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>>176206530
By being harsh and curt in public, but all lovey dovey and submissive at night.

>>176206737
Helves will get their full infantr and cavalry rosters, probably even the giant eagles etc.

The Delves are shit out of luck with their mosnters, though.

Unless they find a way to recycle the snake body for some other units.

>>176202764
What are you even blabbering about you autistic retards? I give absoulutely zero fucks about that stupid, irrelevant minigame.

>>176206669
>Arch Warhammer

Why do you do this?

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>>176206963
You don't play campaign?

>>176204892
>CA
>mistakes

>>176207107
BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION

>>176207156
>retards like you fucked up mp more than the mp shitters
>retards like you fucked up mp
>fucked up mp
Literally fucking learn to write, mong

>>176206424
>those axes
>go from sensible to downright retarded

>>176206834
>A druchii woman may take as many lovers as she pleases, but when a druchii man commits himself, he is expected to remain faithful as a measure of his strength.

Yeah, all lovey dover with one of her twelve other lovers. Cuck Elves are worst Evles.

>>176207236
I wasn't that guy, but the wood elf buff affected both mp and sp.

The amber debuff nerf was also really retarded. Fucking shitters.

>>176206424
Are these variations or is a single unit chosen?

Because lion head > metal lion head

>>176207354
Variations, just like with literally every unit in the game.

>>176207348
>Amber debuff got nerfed
>Greenskin and Beastmen shamans still keep dancing into campfires

>>176207231
>Perhaps I was the asinine mortal all along

t. Felman Ingersson

>>176205341
They could be waiting to release of the one year anniversary of Warhamers release. Which I think should be the 20th this month?

In before it's Krell as a LL for vamps and thats it.

>>176207495
If its fucking krell im going to riot

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>>176207463
Forgot pic

>>176207439

Just download the "OP legendary lords" mods dude. Fucking epic. Don't forget the "no upkeep" mod.

>>176207562
Why? Krell is my number one hope for the old friend if it is just a LL.

>>176202764
Wood Elves aren't even in the top 3 factions in mp desu, they are in a perfect place for balance

>>176198993
The Last Samurai is great esp if you have FotS

>>176206620
you know it caps at 90% and is additive with other modifiers right?

i.e if you have 20% ward save the max missile resistance you benefit from is 70%

>>176207590
Do they also include Chosen Swordsmen (early)?

>>176206960
Even the giant eagle?? Are you sure, it could cost many charlemagnes to copy paste it from the NEET elf roster

>>176207741
Yes with Armored Grail Longbows of the Lady.

>>176207635
the problem with krell being a ll is that the vampire counts will have 2 starting locations with a total of 6 lls, which is way more than any other faction in the game. Ffs the empire only has one starting location, and they really need a new one - their starts are basically exaclty the same every time up to a certain point with the way the secessionists are laid out.

>>176207675
they are now, but they were toned down after the hotfix. They weren't ever incredibly top tier due to most of their units requiring a bit of micro, unlike that retarded bret peasant spam that was so common for a while

>>176207348
What was the amber debuff nerf?

>>176207635
>Krell is my number one hope for the old friend if it is just a LL.
Why the fuck does everyone seem to think Krell will be a LL?

You literally can't have a vamp lord without lore of vampires so Krell will defo be a hero if it's him.

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>>176207723
eh it still makes for funny screenshots

>>176208361
>try to hero snipe fay enchantress
>spirit leech starts healing her
by zee lady!

Thoughts on expanded japan for S2

also any mod recommendations for shogun 2?

>>176206960
There is only 1 Delf monster that matters which is the hydra. And it is the main delf monster. Not doing it would basically ruin them.

>>176208258
The power of one autistic guy spamming krell here

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Old Friend is obviously banners & musicians

>>176209101
That would be fucking amazing. Each race having their special fitting music.

>>176209209
>each faction plays their own renditions of Tipperary, Erika, and Stars and Stripes as they march into battle

>>176208175
The effect from having under zero amber went from zero replenishment to -5% replenishment

>>176209360
the steam powered carnyx the dwarfs have would be GOAT, along with the human skin drums and the empire flutes.

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>>176209101

>tfw no skeleton bongo musicians

What if skaven army mechanic works in a way that a regular unit of theirs has x1.5 of other army unit max size but stays at 50%-ish due to infighting/effects and can be increased to 100% thanks to events/Lord/tech?

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What's the better counter to these guys out of questing or grail knights

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>>176210640
>tfw no ears to listen to drumbeats

>>176210906

>implying you don't feel the drum beats in your bones

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This is going to be an ugly siege but might put the dwarfs past the point of no return

I hate Dwarfs so fucking much, i want their entire race purged

>>176211383
eat shit gobbo

>>176202632
b-but /twg/ told me mp is irrelevant and has nothing to do with balancing

>>176211437
>Gobbo
I am Welf.
Dwards are the cuntiest, most backstabbing race in the game.
Grudge my dick you fucking midget

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jesus fuck
after playing too much warhammer i forgot how brutal attila on legendary was
i've been killing at least 3-4 full elite cavalry stacks per turn but they just keep pouring in all the time

>>176210648
They may as well work like the undead morale and have unbreakable morale in groups that aren't being flanked but lose troops/crumble if they are outnumbered and alone.

>>176211516
Unbecoming action of an asrai, anon

Have you been properly relieving your stress with cute bretonnian shotas lately?

>>176210769
grail knights - the bonus vs large acts as ap if I'm not mistaken

>>176211463
honestly the only big change I can recall coming in WH as a result of MP was the healing cap - most other stuff in mp can fixed with cost changes

>>176211534
>its another sassynid cataphract/crossbow cav doomstack

godspeed, anon

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RIP in peace son & heir

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I think my autoresolve is broken.
Now i have to fight every shitty encounter