Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

Xth for Li Li a CUTE!

holy cunt muffins let locust nest be an abathur base skill PLEASE

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I fucked up youtube links

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Just gonna post the best Chromie build in case people were wondering what it is

When do you build Jaina as anything other than Q spam?

Is Jaina good at all?

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REMINDER

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Xth for Anub'arak is the best.

>>176007539
This was actually my first thought after playing a match on him in preseason. It wouldn't push him over the top, surely?

Xth for Bandle please draw us some Chromie

>>176007660
jaina is great for pushing and you can win teamfights by pressing r

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>>176007721
If only.

>>176007660
Ring of Frost. Wait for more than a few people to stack up in team fights then press all your buttons. Friendly reminder that it's actually a ring and targets in the center are unaffected.

>>176007721
This
Draw Trist fucking Chromie or something less lewd

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>>176007621

>>176007690
>It wouldn't push him over the top, surely?
He's already in a pretty good place right now, I wouldnt want to push him into the "danger zone" if I were you, you dont want to finish like Zag right ?

Are Lucio and Malfurion the only solo healers for most maps?

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>>176007621
>When you complete the first quest and can see enemies before they see you

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4730 shards, what legendary should i craft cucks

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>>176007721
>>176007805
Working on it!

>>176007929
Desert Zagara

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>>176007968

Cydaea WHEN

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>>176007968
>chomrie x dianlo
>not chomie x uther

does this game have memes

>>176007660
>Taking Ice lance over Frostbitten
There's only one good build on Jaina, and that's not it.

Overwatch got a map before Warcraft.

Think about it.

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>Tfw been playing hots non stop for 12h
Is this what fun feel like ?

>>176008181
no actually, rather surprising when you think about it

>>176007968
based

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>>176008181
Ye.

>>176008260
Lovely to hear.

>>176008251
I'm still mad.

>wahh muh warcraf assassins

Gimme that Arathi Basin or Warsong Gulch.

>>176008251
They could have used Alterac Valley Or Warsong Gulch as maps. But I suppose they want to have a concept for a map that's different instead of what's already in the game with a Warcraft skin.

A Deathwing map would be pretty baller.

>>176008269
>stealth assassins are broken!

Thats the best bronze meme on this game

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>>176008181
Illidan 10 thousand years of feeding
Genji "I need healing"

Our meme game is pretty weak when you think about it, we should probably do something

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>UNLEASH THE PUNISHER HEROES! LET IT TEAR OUR FOES APART! MWHUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

I love getting this guy as announcer, he REALLY gets into the whole "killing the Angel" thing.

>>176008357
That meme has existed since at least Starcraft 1 it's not unique to this game

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Are these good builds for Jaina?

>>176008357
I find them annoying to fight against because it's another thing you have to pay attention to. And every single time your attention wanes for just a second, you end up dying. There's a reason why there's so many anti-stealth abilities in the game.

>>176008487
Is that using the old Water Elemental?

>>176008487
Those are objectively the ONLY builds for Jaina. Well more like build, as in singular because there's only one difference between them.

If you think anything else is viable you're below bronze.

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How do I do anything as Murky? How is the slime quest even a thing? I can't hit anyone a second time with it, since I either explode during the 4s cooldown, or waste my bubble and explode the moment I get that second slime (or even don;t get that since the guy gets unslimed while I'm in un-turnoff-able bubble)

>vs AI no longer listed in my daily quests
Did they finally fix it?

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>>176007968
Oh baby

>>176008337
A one lane Alterac Valley map with 5 forts and and a keep with a super boss in the base instead of a core.

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>>176008487
That level 1 talent is shit
Here are the best Jaina builds
Ults are situational

>>176008487
>water elemental
no

>>176008662
I could see it as a brawl, actually.

>>176008487
>water elemental
Questionable.

>>176008627
Try to lane against someone who's melee. Then you can 'poke' with it to get more quest hits. Or if you're feeling particularly suicidal Slime, then bubble and Slime again when it expires.

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>>176008181
We have a few. Emphasis on "few".

>>176008745
>>176008772
>Ring of 'Just walk out of it'
The only time Ring of Frost is any good is if you have someone else to combo with it, because you will NOT hit it on its own.

I go fury varian and you can't stop me

>>176008878
Only your losses can do anything about it. God bless.

It actually isn't bad, it's just that it's more easily countered.

Reminder only bronze shitters think arms or fury Varian is bad

>>176008878
I go Arms Varian with Parry talents.

>>176009025
>Arms
Okay, but worse than Prot
>Fury
utter garbage

>>176009141
I thought Fury was the go to talent when he first came out, what happened?

>>176008840

In that case the only time any area spell is good is when someone else can combo with it because you can't hit it on its own.

Oh wait that's not fucking true because even if it misses it can still checkmate people into shit positions to win the team fight anyway but you're fucking garbage spewing absolutes like a bronze faggot sith.

Shut the fuck up.

>>176009141
>Better than most heroes in the game still
>utter garbage
?

>>176008878
>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who pick Taunt in QM when the enemy team has no tank

What's it like being a COWARD?

>>176009478
>Not wanting to be the only Warrior in the game.
It's like you hate free wins.

>>176008646
what game is this

>>176009192
People realized how to counter him. Fury Varian is basically Butcher-lite. If you can stop a Butcher, you can stop a fury Varian.

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I want to marry Zagara!

>pick water ele
>walks into walls constantly

epic

>>176008191
Isn't the the 2 sec cooldown on ice lance more damage than frostbitten?

How do people usually build the probe these days? Full on turret?

>>176009945
you know that you can control him right?

>>176009945
I thought it was stationary.

>>176010103
Pretty much yes

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>is some down syndrome rusky dying 6 times in 7min and saying it your fault team!

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The only tolerable Overwatch hero when?

>>176010103
Build for your rift combo and push lanes like a madman. They leave you alone for a few seconds and you can blast their gates down in no time.

>>176010184
>tell him to go kill that diablo
>he just walks into the rocks around the tribute directly at him rather than going around

>>176010000
Over time, maybe. But as Jaina you should be comboing your abilities together for burst damage.

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>he doesnt play the strongest class in the game, support
ISHYGDDT

>>176010425
Ranged AA with Tyrande's trait and a stronger version of Malf's Tranquility.

I doubt it.

>>176010492
>lucio, who is about as braindead as he is in OW
>biggest brain
>auriel, tassadar, and kharazim being that low

baka tbqh

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How is 50% forced w/r a thing when i only keep losing ranked by drunk russian novas

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>>176010604
I had a 8 game win streak 3 days ago.

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OK /hotsg/ you know the drill.
Predictions?

>>176010682
uther

>>176010682
Butcher skin.

>>176010604
Obviously you got lucky in your placements and now you're being brought in line with your real rank.

>>176010682
TOO SOON

>>176010682
Some shitty horse mount or a shit hero like Abathur

>>176007621
excuse me can u tell me why Chomie is using Q on minions???????????????????????

What's the waifuposting/baraposting ratio in this general? Important info.

>>176010682
Butcherlisk

>>176010876
9% i think

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>>176010876
pretty low famalam. Every now and then a Tyrande enthusiast will post

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>>176010658
>no li-li

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>>176010876
Quite low, actually.

>>176010492
I don't understand this meme.

do two people make so much of a difference in this game that they can't put a duo queue in

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>>176010876
Too low

>>176010969
F A T T

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>>176011018
>always banned or taken by my teammate or even taken by the other team

>>176011041
Duo is cancer and you can still play as duo in team league, hero league really improved since they removed it imo

>>176010740
>rank1 preseason
>diamond all seasons

yeah buddie

>>176010969
I'm partial to Lunara myself.

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I used to loathe panda posters but, pandas are actually kinda cute and endearing

>>176008584
I sometimes take Arcane Intellect so I can push out waves without going out of mana constantly.

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>>176011473
Hearthstone got one (1) pandagirl and /hsg/ for the next few months was non stop furposting

panadas are a gateway fetish, don't start kids.

What's the best Arthas skin /vg/?

How important are the 10k healers in HL?

>>176011587
all of them r ugli

>>176011587
default Crown Prince or the yellow tint frostwyrm skin

Does hots PTR work pretty much like Overwatch where things are basically never changed from PTR to live? Or if they are it's VERY rarely

I wanna wait for the next PTR to be out before I buy any heroes

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>>176010727
>>176010730
>>176010742
>>176010923
Could have been worse tbqh, could have been a fucking Murky announcer or some shit.

>>176010804
I already got Abathur like this about a week ago
This is an OK mount for the edgy Heroes I guess.

>Legendary mounts exist
>Legendary butcher skins exist
???

why no love for cho'gall?

>>176011587
Crown Prince by a country mile

Best voice, and your little skeleton guys have paladin outfits

>>176011473
Is that adult Lili?

>>176007785
who is this cutie

>>176012264
Annie from LoL. Fire mage, has a Stun passive.

>>176012264
annie from league

>>176012183
no adult li li would be fat like all the other female pandas

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>>176012340
>>176012347
Cheers

Varian is so fucking obnoxious it's not even funny.

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>>176012428

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>>176008181

Back in the day.

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>>176012183
no THIS is adult Li Li

>>176012495
:oooo

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>>176012495

>>176012495
source?

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>six minute queue for team league
>two man party coordinates in the party chat for team ranked
>they start telling people what to do for pushing or taking objectives
>legitimately horrible pair that loses a 3v1 lane that they never leave
>a friend calls them out for being horrendous
>"we're just trying to get the ow skins xD"

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Fuck me

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>>176012495
>>176012183
>You will never be with a flustered Li Li complaining that her clothes are too tight

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>>176012428
First there was the era of experimentation. So many different kinds of Varains were tested.

Then came the stun taunt Varian. This was the only kind of Varian that was played before people whined about point and click 2.25 seconds of lockdown and he got mega nerfed.

Then came the era of sadness. No one knew how to EZ win as Varian any more. Sure, taunt was good, but not EZ wins like the old days.

Then came the era of Shield Wall Varian, who had always existed in the background, getting small buffs here and there, biding his time until he became da #1 default build. Now you gotta pick all those parry talents and spam W to win

>>176013087
>duplicate

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>>176013087
BUTCHERLISK STRIKES AGAIN
>dupe

>>176013087
>(BR)

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>>176013087
>duplicate

>>176013123
I can't remember when I did it, and I probably wasn't the first person but I did a parry build really early on too. I just remember thinking it was a lot stronger than people gave it credit. And Lo and behold it caught on.

>>176013123
>people whined about point and click 2.25 seconds of lockdown and he got mega nerfed.

I wasn't around during these days but that DOES sound like pure fucking cancer.

>>176013325
Honestly it was a little better then because Varian wasn't always taking Shield wall. Meaning you could still nuke the shit out of him.

Uther build, QUICK

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So, now that people have had enough time to try him, is Uther better than before?
He FEELS better to me but I am an unranked shitter so what do I know.

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>>176012264
Annie from League, as others have said.

Source: http://bandlebro.tumblr.com/post/129128262035/some-annie-scribbles-not-gunna-lie-i-always

>>176013325
It was.

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how can I play this game without my friends knowing about it? I don't really want to make a second battle.net account, but it seems like it's my only option...

>>176013446
just fucking stun everyone
>>176013482
quit being a pussy

>>176013445
https://www.icy-veins.com/heroes/talent-calculator/uther#25.0!1131123

I do pretty good with some variant of this one.

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>brexshit
>3 picks in
>guys we need a solo laner
>nazeebo: "I do"
>proceeds to get raped by Rag so hard he comes running to 4 man lane
>whole coordination crumbles because we got no solo laner
>snowball all the way
Lets not forget the Jaina who died 4 times in 5 minutes standing in front of everyone and when pointed out states "we give them everything for free".

>>176007406
>Hearthstone player having to make a new thread for you people edition

Not even a good OP, at that.

>>176013325
It's even worse than you can imagine. Warbringer used to add a stun as well as making the cooldown around 6 seconds. Pretty ridiculous stuff. It technically had a balanced winrate but it was the most annoying thing to go against

Here's all the changes to Varian so far, it's a little sad that he's always had a go-to build and doesn't really have the multi-class thing going for him in higher level play
https://heroespatchnotes.com/hero/varian.html

>>176013482
No, unfortunately. Show Offline feature never.

>I don't really want to make a second battle.net account, but it seems like it's my only option...
It sort of is. Friendly reminder to refer yourself for the free Raynor, Sylvanas and Stim.

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>see legendary and get excited
>it's a fucking stupid mount
why is this allowed?

>>176013446
Yes. His raw numbers are low but he gives so much armor and damage mitigation that he's deceptively strong now. He's even better as a duo support

Solo support Uther is good, duo support Uther is crazy

>>176013482
Blizzard doesn't want to make an "invisible" feature, one of the reasons being seeing friends online lets them socialize and want to get on the game they're playing etc, if everyone was offline you'd boot up your battle.net client and see everyone offline and stop playing.

Why do you not want your friends to know you're playing this game?

>>176013620
>it's a little sad that he's always had a go-to build and doesn't really have the multi-class thing going for him

This is invariably always going to happen when you give people a choice like that. Hell how many heroes have a single objectively best talent build?

>>176013668
Atleast you got the best Tyrael skin

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>tfw not intelligent enough to understand grubby's tier list

>>176013668
Yep and horse mounts are the absolute worst, except the galaxy one

>>176013734
>Why do you not want your friends to know you're playing this game?
They're probably shitters and he doesn't want to feel bad for declining to play with them.

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>>176013668
IT JUST HAPPENED AGAIN IN LESS THAN 5 MINUTES
REEE

>>176013761
Grubby is a shitter
If he didn't stream no one would take him seriously

>>176013690
My feeling aswell
Never tried duo heal with him but that must be fucking nut

>>176013620
>it's a little sad that he's always had a go-to build and doesn't really have the multi-class thing going for him in higher level play

That really is pretty sad.
Then again, I stick to QuickMeme only so I can get away with going Twin Blades or Colossus Strike whenever the enemy team doesn't have a tank.

>>176013760
>lying to confort anon
Tyrael legendaries are the best, I don't even like playing Tyrael but if a open a demon archangel I'm gonna grind the shit outta him

>>176013839
it's a joke that TLV are in LiLi's spot

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>dont pick zeratul, he is useless
>"we will see ^^"
>procced to die 5vs1 by getting caught derping around them
>do 29k damage, less on the team
>not a fucking good void prison
>"i have 100% win rate with zeratul"
>he is lvl 10 with him

What is this cancer diamond elo

Is every non common crate worth rerolling at least once unless you like the first drop?

>>176013668
I really like the idea behind this Tyrael skin but his "hair" looks more like a brain to me and the whole thing is ruined.

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If you could remove one hero from the game, who would it be?

I want this stupid faggot gone. He shouldn't even fucking exist, nothing with THIS much utility should, and is the sole reason I want to punch every one of these fucking devs in their fat ass guts,

>hots has interesting mastery system compared to other mobas with unique skins that only unlock if you get a hero high enough
>throw it all away to copy league of legends with a shitty golden medallion appearing above your head when you choose to stun yourself for half a second
What did they mean by this?

>>176013993
[PROTECTED intensifies]

>>176013993
varian

Have you ever played against a varian with a metafag build and had fun?

>>176013993
Don't worry friend, only 5 people in the world can play Medivh well and he's been the lowest win hero for an entire year

>>176014010
>over 10 days since 2.0 went live
>people STILL throwing a pissy fit over muh master skins

Give it a rest already, shit.

>>176014095
I don't even give a shit, and they can go fuck themselves with this win rate shit. This stupid piece of shit fag is broken as all fuck.

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place them bets

>>176013993
Medivh, actually.

>>176014095
God bless. I hope they continue to refrain from buffing him for the masses.

>>176014068
Yeah Varian is pretty antifun.

>>176014183
butcherlisk

What else does Probius need?

>>176014010
I'm only glad that happened because most mastery skins suck ass

Rare - 2k gold hero
Epic - 4k
Legendary - 10k
7k - ???

>>176007895
I've been seeing Auriel lately in streams. Apparently she was good all along, if only the team has a good damage dealer.

>>176013993
Nova because Blizzard pretends she's ok and so I get shitters in my team picking her and MAKING ME FAIL MY FUCKING DIAMOND PROMOS

Also Probius because there is zero counter-play to him

>>176009625
Google Rondo Duo

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>>176014214
thankfully not, but this skin still sucks

>>176014246
Nerfs.

>>176014154
Yeah, I think his kit is just a mistake. Needs a rework.

>>176014010
>get """master""" skin
>lose will to buy $ skin
The taunt self stun is shitty, though. Wonder if they'll remove it.

>>176014246
nerfs

>>176014376
>hating demon tiddy Ariel
Shit taste.

>>176013993
Lucio

Not fun to play, not fun to hear OH LETS BREAK IT DOWN and realize you just instantly lost a teamfight because you dont have a lucio

>>176014376
>but this skin still sucks

TERRIBLE taste Anon, see me after class.
You even got the best tint too.

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Reminder that the only way to master renk is him

>>176014010
>(((mastery system)))

>>176014376
Lucky. I've gotten the green one three times.

>>176014421
oh did dyrus end up getting master

>>176014394
Technically you would hear LET'S DROP THE BEAT but I see your point.

>>176011041
You can duo in every game mode except hero league. Leave that one to those who want to earn their rating and not be carried to it.

>>176011530
Problem with arcane intellect is that you'll have lots of mana and no health at all, so you'll have to back anyway.
Pointless talent unless you have a healer on you constantly.

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>>176007406
how fucking retarded do you have to be to fuck up every single mother fucking ytlink

>Hearthstone player
of course you are

>>176014154
He is the hero with the highest skill floor though, easily.
Have you seen a bad Medivh?
Not only are they not helpful, they can be an active detriment/danger to the team with misplaced portals and mistimed stops with his heroic.

will people flame me if I play Probio in ranked?

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>picks BW on hanamura because heard shes good on it
>doesnt pick bribe
AYY

so how do you get extra payload shots without destroying forst?

>>176015025
The boss

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>>176008389
>>176008181
>>176008779


heres a fresh meme I made myself from someone who just started 3 days ago.

This just about sums up half my quick matches

>>176011594
Pretty important if you want to be able to do every role. Malf, lucio and auriel at least. Auriel is solid when you have a good source of damage such as gul'dan. Malf lucio are top tier and altough it probably won't happen auriel cho'gall is a wild ride

>leaver status because i was gone for 2 minutes and the queue popped way too early
>have literally never left a game in my life
what the fuck

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tlv camera fix never

>>176015305
Where's the FEEL THE HATRED?

Is Chen shit?
I just tried him out for the first time, he felt pretty alright.
I know CC fucks him up, but doesn't that sort of apply to a bunch of other characters too?

>>176015953
He doesnt do anything

>>176015953
Of all the heroes in the game, chen is the only one whom i think has the most useless ults. His damage seems fine.

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>>176008181
>

>>176015953
The problem is he is locked without damage/tankyness for 5 sec if he is cc'd plus he is paper without his shield from passive. Otherwise he is a beast plus his barrel ult is a good meme

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Tyrande rework when?
h
e
n?

She's so out of date heroesfire probably doesn't realize they deleted the pointer to her Pierce talent and gave it to Cassia.

What talents do I get for Anub?
I've played 3 games of him and while I didn't shit the bed I always felt like I wasn't contributing very much.

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>>176016726
He's not a solo tank, peel for your squishies or dive theirs depending on the situation. Ult depends on the match. He's a spell tank so don't pick him if you're fighting a bunch of AA

>>176013734
>Why do you not want your friends to know you're playing this game?
because it's a poopy diaper baby game and I'm embarrassed about it.

>gonna level sylv to 6+
>quick match
>literally no one is pushing with me
>people are LITERALLY fucking standing away from incapacitated towers as if they'll shoot
>people are leaving my fucking lane and leaving me to solo

And back to literally never queuing for Quick Match ever fucking again.

>>176017000
Are you afraid they're going to make fun of you?
Confront them about it.

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>>176007663
REMINDER THAT WE NEED A BANSHEE HERO

>>176014068
I was pretty surprised that no one complained about shield wall back when the stun was still around

>>176015348

What about Morales? she seems niche compared to the other 2.

>>176017683
Because nobody ever took it since the stun was always better. Now that the stun is gone, you actually see people with Shield Wall and it's obvious even THAT is obnoxious as fuck.

I highly doubt they'll ever make this mistake again, giving a hero two talents, both incredibly strong at such an early level.

>get legendary hero
>it's fucking tracer
>get another legendary hero
>it's fucking valeera

>>176017703
Morales is ideally picked after you see that the enemies' draft does not consist of a dive composition.

>>176017703
She's not as important/good as malf/lucio/auriel but she could work in the right circumstances (good peel and a good stim target)

>>176016879
Is he advisable to pick as a solo tank vs a mage heavy comp?

Holy shit dudes Cho is so much fun. Upheaval is fucking ridiculous and has won us like five games in a row just because nobody is ever prepared for it.

Why would anybody ever pick the hammer?

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>Forced 50

>>176017998
Hammer build is a lot of fun, especially if you make it to 20 and get ranged attacks

>>176017998
Stops channels, shorter cooldown, helps peel. It's like comparing Falstad's Gust and I guess Varian's Tauntt. They serve different purposes.

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>abathur announcer in common box

Post ALARAK builds

>>176018126
It's fun, yeah, but to me it doesn't beat the sheer satisfaction of pulling the entire enemy backline into the middle of your team and watching them scramble before they get instakilled half a second later.

>>176017998
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Kerrigan/Kerrigan%20-%20Default/Kerrigan_Pissed02.mp3

>>176010425
>wanting omnics after seeing first hand what happened to London.

You omnic lovers ought to be hung the same day these metal bastards are scrapped.

What is the best 3 man team comp?

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At what rank do you start getting people who aren' t brainless?

>>176018437
Hahaha. Sick jokes man, you're alright, you're alright.

Can anyone recommend me a hero, fairly new here.

If it helps at all ive got the bruiser pack and really enjoyed playing ragnaros, stiches and diablo.

>>176018359
Leoric
Diablo
Artanis

>>176007406
Did they change something about the game recently? I played it a few times a couple months ago and it ran fine but now whenever I try to play my game lags to shit and I cant even move off the starting position. I know my internet is the problem somehow but its just as good as it was back when the game ran fine.

>>176017914
If all their dps were mages? I've never been in that situation so can't say 100%. I'd decide based on both team comps, probably. We have no dive other than me(anub) and they do? Probably want double warr because then I wouldn't be able to dive safely at risk of my own squishies being killed and I'd be alone out there. I just think anub works best with another frontline because then he can slither in an out and do his thing

Why is everyone playing Samuro now???

>>176018437
High diamond lmao

>>176018912
Also is every quick game in that raven place?

>>176018261
It requires a bit of follow up early on as Gall himself can't dish out enough damage to murder multiple people at once. It's pretty cool for teamfights, but it's reliant on a few factors.
Twilight Hammer? Peel, interrupts, solid AA damage increase. It's unconditionally strong.

That said, ranged Cho is all kinds of ridiculous, but I rarely ever use the ranged component outside of chasing down some nigger, since you kind of need Cho's fat body right in the frontline rather than chilling next to your backline. The slow's nice though.

Hour of Twilight is both a great and a terrible talent. This shit has won me games after wiping as we could come back in time to turn the tide, but it requires dying to get value. If I'm not sure whether I might need it, I pick this rather than the Hammer upgrade.

>first match with valeera is against stitches, gul'dan, johanna, nazeebo and genji
I am convinced the mm fucking hates me. I've already gone down to 45% winrate from 52% in the last 2 days.

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>try this game outbecause of OW shit
>Immediately get on my high horse and expect it to be horrible
>mfw it's actually the most fun moba i've played

Needs a few more waifus but looking great t b h

>>176019448
If we're not getting stomped all game, I usually just pick Will of Cho. If you can stack that shit up to 10+ then you become fucking unkillable.

>>176018715
Are you new to MOBAs or just HOTS?

>>176013293
keked

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why can't he be real bros??

>>176018715

Johanna, best goddamn tank in the game.

>>176018715
Give Arthas a try. Borderline unkillable and almost impossible to get away from without a crazy mobility skill or without help.

>Alarak
Why does nobody play this motherfucker?
Pushing people into AoE and silencing entire teams never gets old.

>>176019597
Only against Murky/Rexxar/TLV/Samfam and Illidan, where I'm sure I'll get value out of it very quickly.

Why is Will of Gall so weak in comparison?

10 kills for Cho increase his armor to 45%, that amounts to 1.818 times his normal health up from 1.333 times his normal health with the trait up. It pretty much doubles, up to quadruples his healthpool compared to without his trait.
Meanwhile even if Gall gets 20 kills, it won't even have doubled his normal damage without the trait.

It's really hard to compare them considering how much more impact armor has over damage, but Will of Gall should definitely be boosted to like 4% per kill.

Apocalypse or Hose for Diablo and why?

>>176019951
He doesn't do enough outside of being a solo laner

en taro adun, /hotsg/

>>176019951
Too hard to play for most people. Thrall, Kerrigan, and Ragnaros are easier to play and can perform just as well if not better.

>>176018715
If you like beefy frontliners you should try out Arthas, he's very good, easy to play and will force you to learn positioning.

>>176019995
Apocalypse because it's potentially a teamwide 1.75 second stun. That shit wins teamfights. Just combo it with some other CC first.

>picking hose
There's a little argument to be made for unstoppable, but it's really not what you want for Dibbles unless you want to deal mediumdick damage. In that case, pick someone else.

>>176019951
Alarak is one of those chapions that you have to expect the enemy team to fuck up so you can do anything.

>>176020097
Thanks, man
I will build the best Duplo

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place bets

>>176020195
i wish i liked him but i dont

he just seems too slow and shitty to do anything in a game where the average assassin can move around the fight at warp speeds while shelling it with 900 damage pokes

>>176020268
Duplicate skin

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>>176020268
>>176020321
i already own leablo ;_;

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Not a starcraft player here, but how do protoss eat?

>>176020268
butcherlisk or hellboar

>>176020406
CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS

anyone wanna be my friend and play 4 games with me
i'm shit

>>176020406
They're plants and take in energy over sunlight.
Why aren't they green? Come one, green aliens are so last century.

>>176020469
>They're plants and take in energy over sunlight.
They eat by photosynthesis?

>>176019661
Just HotS, although i havent played other Mobas in years so im about as good as a total newbie.

>>176019790
>>176019924
>>176020089
Thanks for the help guys, i'll try playing around with both of them.

Can someone tell me why every single Pro picks Big Red Button when playing Tychus?
Isn't Bob and Weave just better in every single situation due to increased mobility/range in general?
I feel BRB gets like no value as no one stands in the bright red circle long enough to get hit by it.

>>176020406
>tfw just got butcherlisk myself

Is this some kind of skin that drops often or are you just a wizard?

>>176020874
butcherlisk strikes again

>>176020874
No, it's a meme. It's pretty much the most worthless legendary drop there is, so people often complain and post about it when it drops, which leads to everyone thinking it drops a lot.

>>176020834
They take it because it increases the time of Odin, the nuke is just an extra benefit.

>>176020874
Because Butcher is a pretty terrible hero, and the skin itself isn't that great. Thus you have a mediocre skin you'll never get to use.

>>176017914
As a single tank Anub has a very hard time if you have no hard engaging allies like Illidan, Genji, Greymane and others to follow you. However, good Chromie can synergize with Anub extremely well. If you are in this situation it would be wise to halt their frontline and keep baiting their abilities into your scarabs and shield, and just protect your team mates by your own hitbox.
Of course, if you are the second tank you can just go apeshit in their backline as the lines collide and chase their carries away.

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Hi guys!

New player here from overwatch, just wanna ask a few questions.

1. Abathur seems to be my favorite champion, what are some good tips for him?

2. Is the community trans* friendly?

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>>176012495
>Pokies

I ain't a furfag, but...

>>176020981
butcher at his best with a maxed out quest is a little bit better than other melee asssassins

butcher without his quest is shit out of an asshole because he can't kill his target and inevitably overextends and dies

so essentially there's no real reason to pick him. he's not terrible though. he just needs a lot of time to farm his quest (which is admittedly bad design in this game)

they should just make his quest damage baseline (maybe slightly lower) and give him abattoir as his trait (as in, get 5 extra damage for each hero kill)

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>>176021124
>I ain't a furfag
You are now.

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>>176021089

>>176017347
>They made Naisha a banshee

FUCK

EVERYTHING

IS NOTHING SAFE FROM METZEN'S CORRUPTION GARBAGE

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poor guy :((

>>176021290
lol just lol at anyone who takes this game seriously

>play valla in qm
>enemy team has valla and tassadar
>play thrall in qm
>enemy team has thrall and abathur
>play illidan in qm
>enemy team has illidan and varian

why do QM mirrors exist?

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>>176021245
>IS NOTHING SAFE FROM METZEN'S CORRUPTION GARBAGE

>>176021169
Or just give him tangible benefits while you're building up the quest.

>>176021089
>tfw also OW migrant and Abathur is unironically my favorite hero
Should I kill myself /hotsg/?

>>176021672
I mean, you should. Not because of Abathur though. I like him too and I've been playing this terrible game for a long time. He is my go to in solo queue because I can take a sort of hands off approach to playing and just fuck about while my team bumbles about doing fuck all.

>>176021169
In fairness, if you rotate well you can hit 125 meat in under 10 mins easily, and after that point every group fight you can be a part of just snowballs you,

The issue is playing versus teams with competent stuns.

>>176021550
>>176021169

I'd reduce the number of stacks he needs for the bonus to 50 and increase the damage per stack to 3.

Essentially, a good couple of teamfights early on and the butcher secures the momentum.

>>176021905
Yeah, fuck off. Work for your damage you little bitch.

>>176021951

Well at least make it so he doesn't lose meat when he dies then.

>>176022007
>At least remove possible counterplay
No.

>>176022007
>I don't want to have to watch the minimap
>I don't want to have to take the scrub talent like the scrub I am
FUCK OFF
YOU
LITTLE
BITCH

Question About Tassadar:

Is the 30 orbs talent really the one you should pick up?
Im trying to learn him so I got the TTH build for him but in all my games I can't collect more than 25 even with constant wave clearing and objectives dropping me an orb, is it really the best one to get ?

Also what maps is he supposed to be played on ?

Is there a playstyle more specific to him, it says hes a support but he plays differently to what I previously played, Tyrande, Furion & Lucio.

Thanks in advance.

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>shitty abathur on your team
>enemy has chogal
never has my anus been so brutalised, is this what rape feels like

>>176021169
Late game Butcher hits harder than any other hero except maybe Zul'jin. Giving that to him baseline would be fucking retarded. Besides Butcher's problem isn't damage it's surviabilty.

Give him armor after he charges or talent like Rags that gives him armor after being stunned for a little bit.

If you want to go the extra mile make it so he can't be blinded when attacking someone with his brand.

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>>176022265
here's the best tass build
level 4 is your choice depending on comp etc, armor is usually best, move speed is also nice

>>176022383
>If you want to go the extra mile make it so he can't be blinded when attacking someone with his brand.

that's dumb

i think he needs some way to purge blind from himself (a talent ability perhaps) but i don't think that's the correct way to go about it

>>176022265
The puddle talent gives you some more damage and wave clear. Most people pick the orb talent because of your picking Tassader it's to enable a low health hero like Valla and Tracer allowing them to play more aggressively.

Tassadar is good on every map, he's more team comp dependent than anything.

>>176022490
He could still be stunned, it's not really dumb. It just means Cassia can't shit on him constantly.

>>176022490
Why he can still be stunned or rooted, he just can't be blinded when attacking someone who has his debuff attached to them.

Helol go the extra mile and make a lvl 16 talent where Butcher's Brand cleaves to people around the target. That with the cleaving auto attacks at 13 would be hilarious.

>>176022601
it's not intuitive at all

>he they picked butcher let's counter him
>oh i know, let's disable his autoattacks with blind
>oh it doesn't work for some arbitrary reason and now we lost because we didn't draft stuns instead

you shouldn't disable an entire game mechanic for a hero just because it weakens him. give him tools to play around blinds, don't just "ok blind doesn't work on this hero lmao" it

>just got the butcherlisk meme
Should I reroll?

>>176022715
nah because you will keep getting it in the future, might as well get some duplicate shards out of it when you do

>>176022709
That';s super fucking annoying dealing with Valeel or whatever the fuck that assassin is. I tried blinding her with Lucio's boop and to my dismay as she still shredded my poor teammate with her other bs.

>>176022490
>blind rage - while blinded butcher can still do damage with basic attacks but it's reduced by 75%, also gets 50% bonus attack speed while attacking a branded hero (blinded)

>>176022709
Then give him a pickable blind resist perk that replaces his regain choice or something, cause as it stands butcher only works against retards or in a team that basically builds around him.

>>176022828
i'm glad you aren't in charge of the game because that sounds shit

i think butcher needs his enrage talent moved to lvl 7 (or just make it baseline because you always want to pick it anyway) and then make enrage also reduce the duration of blinds

>>176022709
Blind does work him, just not when attacking a hero who has been branded by him. Besides people don't counter Butcher with blinds they counter Butcher with CC. Hell people don't draft around Butcher they laugh when he's picked.

>>176022715
if it was from a veteran chest, yes

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>>176022914

>>176022926
Is there a good support hero I could pick to make the enemy butchers life feel even more pathetic?

>>176022828
so getting blinded... buffs him?

>>176023135
Li Li.

>>176023135
Literally anything with a stun, blind or root renders him completely invalid.

>>176022801
>>176022927
Rerolled it and got fel malfurion. Might actually use that one.

>>176021478
>why do QM mirrors exist?
the queue times would increase if they didn't

>>176021736
Which build do you use?

>>176023139
not really but it does allow you to flail around like a retard doing as much damage as tassadar

>>176023135
Uther and go Divine Storm.

>He charges stun him after.
>Just as he about to recover Divine Storm.

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I'd bet most people in this general would prefer Zagara and Leablo over human girls

>>176023287
>>>/owg/

>>176023287
why did you post a sandnigger instead of a human then

>>176022060
>>176022046

Look, Butcher is already crap, and it's 100% down to the meat stack mechanic. SOMETHING has to be done with it.
What would you suggest?

>>176022447

So, I've been watching VoD's and stuff in the week, and I've noticed that Tassadar even though http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist ranks him mid-tier, he was first Ban in every NA game I saw. But in other regions he's not even considered.

What is it with the NA and Tassadar that he absolutely warrants a first ban?

What's with this ripoff E1M1 that plays all the time during HGC

>>176023525
Why would you pay any attention to that tier list?

>>176023525
theyre so far behind they still havent realised he was nerfed

>>176023525
Tassadar's been nerfed since then, but he enabled AAs like Valla and also provides the main counter to Zeratul. Now Auriel basically does his job but better while also being an actual healer.

did anyone save the pic/imgur link of the datamined D.VA emotes?

>>176023630

What was he like pre-nerf?

>>176023525
Grubbys tier lists are shit
Also he got nerfed recently so he isn';t as good as he used to be

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really nice tierlist you got there OP

>on broxis
>arthas and zera duo on my team
>arthas never leaves the lane
>we lose 3 beacons in a row
>hes 0.25 kills at 10 minutes in
>didnt even manage to get a tower in the lane down because he was against murky


uninstall

>>176023432
His kit is fucking garbage. Which is a shame because he actually has some cool talents.

I mean he has a shitty slow, a shitty sustain ability and than his other talent is just a hyper engage that leaves him vulnerable after it and his good ult is only good at picking someone off until lvl 20.

He's a shitty version of Leoric without the wave clear and the ability to bully people in lane.

>>176023287
human girls are to rape, monstergirls are to love.