/fhg/ - For Honor General

>>175973714
that works, too.

>>175973830
They already said all Steel/salvage costs to upgrade gear are getting slashed.

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xth for something

>>175974180
So, are we gonna be able to upgrade gear?
Also, better keep the ability to change the look of items.

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>>175974241
xth for your something is dumb and my something is better

>>175974321
xth for something is OP and needs to be nerfed

>>175974321
xth for its friday and you should chill my dude

https://my.mixtape.moe/wveomv.mp4

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BYZANTINE

ARMOR

sharpen blades or fury /fhg/

>>175974512
that third armour set looks nice

>>175973830
If they do that l'll end up with 225k steel

Suits me d e s u

>>175974796
I didn't figure it'd be a 1:1 conversion. Maybe 10:1 or something.

>>175974521

Delete all feats and gear stats honestly

Bad concept, done badly

>>175974919
>ranged feats
getting one hit sure is fun

>>175974665
Thats the byzantine armor

Has the matchmaking been fixed or will I still get max level gearlords against my no gear Kensei? This is honestly the main reason why I stopped playing this game.

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If the matchmaking still sucks:
Steam: waabb

>>175975238
How do you think they could fix that? Anyone can have a 20 rep 108 warlord and a 2 rep ken. You want the game to pick your character for you when you enter a match?

>>175975706

pick your character(and your secondary for brawl) before matchmaking. just like street fighter

or delete gear score and feats since theyre absolute shite

>>175975274
No users found for "Waabb."

I just got my main to rep 30.. There's nothing left for me. What do I do? I-I might just have to wait until Centurion comes to begin a new with him..

>>175975238
come season 2, all XP gains are going to be increased 25% so it'll be easier to level up and get gear faster.

>>175975706
By deleting gear in a game that isn't f2p or instead delete the stats and just make it pure cosmetics, that would be a start. Ubisoft jews can't have that though.

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>>175974512
Which helmet do you think will look the most like mask of the father?

I'm hoping we get some more with beards, like the one on the right, but with more face visible.

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>>175977574
>mask of the father
stop
this meme has been dead for years

>>175977574
>giant dad memes
stop

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>>175977627
THE MEME NEVER DIES!

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>>175977043
They already made it so that gear barely makes any difference. Now they are making it so that the differences between the shittiest gear and the best gear possible is barely noticeable, and yet you still whine. You shitters are like feminists, never satisfied, are you?

Not him but attack and defence shouldn't be stats for gear. If that was the case then you would always be on even footing in a 1v1 fight na matter the gear scores.

>>175978256
>gears shouldn't have stats
>okay we'll make the stats mean less
>but I said-
>GOD YOU PEOPLE CAN'T JUST BE HAPPY

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>>175977574
>>175977627
>>175977735
>>175977758
>yfw gladiator gets this pose

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reminder

>>175978910
kawaii :3c

>>175978760
He's saying that by nerfing the gear to make less of an impact, barely anything, in fact, that they're pretty much just cosmetics.

>first match
>dc
>second match
>game crash

this session is off to a good start

>>175978781
lawbringer already has it

>>175978984
In that case, why aren't they just straight up cosmetics?
No matter how insignificant of a boost they provide, they to widen even more the gap between new players and veterans, they have no reason to exist.

>>175979227
me yesterday

>>175979227
Me two days ago, this is trash

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>>175978910

I'm assuming they didn't fix the rewards for matches with matchmaking off, am I correct?

Does the Centurion have their own songs?


I THINK NOT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1UEIDH_nwg

>>175980227
nigga please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmM_rlnYnmw

>>175980227
My mother was Korean,

and my father was a black American

It's unfortunate they won't unjew the micro transactions and make it so salvage can be turned into steel.

>>175981063
They could just rejigger what salvage is used for.

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aww muddafuggin yes

>>175978781
>>175979296
Centurion has it.

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Why am I rep 9 and still no Gold gear? Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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>>175980523
Come to think of it, TW series have OSTs fitting every faction. Medieval 1/2 for Knights, Shogun 1/2 for Samurai, Rome 1/2 personally for Centurion, and a good part of Attila ost for Vikings.
Posting Kensei theme btw:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHGUdWjoS44

>>175981323
lmao dude like upgrade your purples lol how is this even a thing

>>175981556
dont do this
when the patch hits they'll be outdated
save your steel and shit

How's Valk right now?

What about Nobushi?

>>175981736
I've been called cancer while playing both, but /fhg/ tells me there's nothing wrong with them so

>>175981159
And use it for what? There'd nothing else it's really usable on.

Either keep it as is which is generally useless. Or make it so you can salvage gear with it which they won't do because it takes away from buying steel.

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Are the servers down on ps4 right now or am i retarded?

so if your past rep 7 does yellow gear just drop all the time?

>>175981950

purple, upgrade it

>>175981685
wisdom, thanks anon. I already have 30k in the bank so i think ill be sweet

>>175981736
Cancer along with every other class because the meta currently is stunlocks everywhere.

I think Kensei is the only one without some sort of exploit

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Are servers Down right now? can't seem to get into game

>>175982065
Unless you have enough Steel/own the Season Pass, I would save your Steel until the next update, since there's gonna be an armor rework.

>>175982186
What platform

>>175982346
ps4

>>175977627
>5 million views and growing
Dark Souls was merely the beginning of the legend

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>>175982113
>nobushi
>cancer
She's Parrybait: The Hero, wtf are you on about

>>175982567
>Stab, stab, drop kick, stab, drop kick, stab, stab, drop kick, wait for bleed out

Catch up. Nobushi's are easy to counter but there meta is no different. Trap your opponent in the corner and stunlock them to death.

>>175982567
>unlocked zone is faster than pks and does as much as a heavy

>stop caring about winning and losing and enjoy doing cool stuff

is this it? have I ascended?

>>175982567
>IS IT A LIGHT OR IS IT AN UNLOCKED FLICKER
>OOPS, IT WAS A FLICKER. THERE GOES 2 BARS OF HEALTH

>>175982867
I recently stopped playing 1v1s and started playing dominion, having a lot more fun right now. Match making can really shit the bed gear score wise but it's better than fighting """tech""" abusing faggots.

>>175982867
no

>>175983060

I main dom too

I do stupid shit like bait lb to a ledge and deflect his charge then throw him off

Ive managed it 1 time out of 5

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>>175982113
>stunlocks
>>175982680
>stunlock

>>175983060
I find it much funner that the other 4v4 modes since there is no power ups and everyone can't turtle forever like in duel modes.

>>175983184
he's wrong about what makes Nobushi aids, but Nobushi is still aids.

he's right for the wrong reasons.

>>175983060
>>175983194

Still wish they had the common sense to make a "Guard the Ram" mode though

Lol people are still playing this game?

Don't you feel a little ripped off? This game is pretty shitty. I'd go into why, but I think we all know the truth.

>>175983542
New dominion like modes would be nice.

I really hope we get dedicated servers for the 4v4 modes, 2v2 and 1v1 are fine, but stuff like dominion would really benefit from them.

>>175983194

yeah you really have to be killing people as fast as possible at the capture points

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what the fuck is going on with
pS4??

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>>175983629

>>175983629
I'm glad people (Or at least one dude) feels the need to come to this general every few days to say that. Shows people still know it exists.

>>175983629
Then go into why. don't dance around and be a shit, just say why you don't like the game. or just don't go into threads of games you dislike.

>>175983629

wow anon thanks, I just realized that wasn't fun I was having, uninstalling now

>>175983983
>>175984028
>>175984035
>>175984048
you guys realize the person making this bait is one of the generals regular posters right?

>Giving away all of those (you)s for such simple bait

Come on now.

>3 elimination matches in a row it turns into me the only one left alive against 4 fucking niggers-

WAIT.

NOPE. FUCKING NO. IT TURNED INTO 4 ELIM MATCHES IN A ROW BEFORE I FINISHED THIS POST.

3 OR 4 ENEMY TEAM ALIVE

IM THE ONLY ONE LEFT

FUCK ANYONE WHOEVER PLAYS ON MY TEAM, YOU ARE FUCKING THROWING ON PURPOSE JUST TO FUCK ME. I FUCKING SWEAR THIS IS A GOD DAMNED CONSPIRACY.

>>175984218
GUARANTEED REPLIES

>>175984197
y tho

>>175984251

in elim its either

>your 4 mates vs their 1
>their 4 mates vs you

>>175984251
Just play dominion, even if you team is shit you can still win by keeping the enemy busy on their nearest point.

>>175983982
servers is down

>>175983982
>rep 0

https://youtu.be/IolgEUxkDCw

have some fresh salt

>>175984709
Salt doesn't have to be fresh, it's quite a stable compound.

>warden can bash you even on a blocked light

Well okay, I can just dash-

>can cancel the bash to gb you

Well at least I can roll-

>dashes forwards and does it again now that I have lower stamina

Why do you niggers defend this shit?

>>175984680
thats an old pic, im universal
Rp 4 now

>>175984809
Perfectly balanced.

>>175984809
>warden can bash you even on a blocked light

uh i think you're full of shit

>>175984489
>Just play dominion,

He nigger, I have 3 elimination orders, including 1 that requires 5 wins.

I'm on 5 matches in a row now. I'm literally the last one alive and have to fight 2, 3, or even 4 fucking shitters.

>>175984809

roll away

>>175985208
Just blast through them in AI matches then.

>>175983178
Zerker?

I like to deflect LB's 50/50 light after shove. Do it to the same guy a few times in a row and the salt really builds up.

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>enemy team breaking
>only one left is a warlord who's just trying to run
>activate berzerker and get enough sprint attacks on him to bring him to a sliver
>he starts running to my trap-laden point C
>runs into a beartrap and dies
>game doesnt end so get ready for his res
>he starts running again
>runs onto another bridge into another beartrap
>gb him and toss him off the ledge
>wow!
>wow!
>wow!

>>175984809
>warden can bash you even on a blocked light

i think you might be lying there anon. Warden shoulder bash is shit tier now anyway.

>>175985392
So what feats should I use on my LB for dominion? I've not played it since beta, but since you're all saying it's fun I may as well give it another go.

>>175985392
like poetry

>>175985552
for lawbringer I like the increased defense 2nd feat, and then the grenade and then the grenades or catapult

>>175984967
>>175985469

I fucked up, sorry.

He shoulder bashed me, then light, then bash, then light, etc.

>>175985712
right yeah, you just need to roll away for throw a light when hes charging the bash

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>reinstall
>pre-order bonuses are all gone except for the piss yellow neutral colors

>>175985383

nah orochi, I know the gb isnt gauranteed but I like to try it, played zerker a little last night, feels really good, dem heavies

yeah being an assassin you have more time to react since the deflect is instant vs other characters dodges taking a while to hit i frames, some low level lb last night was mad that I deflected it, I think he just wanted to spam that move and win

Where does uplay hide screenshots? I just had a samurai jack game I want to share with the general.

Fact: the guy with the turkey-emblem behaves like the scum on earth, will always gank up on you and either plays Valk light/sweep spam or Raider/Zerker, cause Alluha Akbar beards and shit

>>175986916
pictures > uplay

>>175974512
SCALE MAIL

>playing dom
>vs a rep 27 warden, 5 zerker, 15 nobu, 8 roach
>2 teammates dc at the start
>2 bots join
>fight hard with my teammate helping each other
>bots take the mid objectives and we hold both a and c
>actually mage to win because the other team is retarded

how can you not have an ounce of strategy in you head?

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>>175986916
I'll post the scoreboard when gookmoot shall allow

>>175974512

gods that byz armor is fucing sick, I hope cent has some cool deflects because he is gonna be my man then

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>he can't afford dank emotes so he zone attacks his allies to end theirs after the match

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>>175987336

>>175987336
>High rep nigger raider

Why is this always a thing? They're always trash as well.

>>175987537
WE

>>175974512

back in the beta, i decided that i would main conq because he was the only visually well designed character

looks like im getting a new main soon though

wait are they nerfing parries and adding chip in 2 weeks as well

the lads in my last dom said that, didnt hear anything like that on stream

>Got nearly 3k good boy war points in a game

Jesus, just how out numbered are the knights right now?

Yo, did Conq's flail used to be able to be charged to be unblockable in the beta, or am I misremembering?

>>175988212
how much do we normally get?
T. fellow knight who never deploys war assets

>>175988342
During season 1 it was tough getting anywhere near 1k unless it was a monster game for you.

>>175985392
>runs into a beartrap and dies
Happened to me yesterday, I didn't even realize they deal damage until then.

>>175988212
>Deploy assets on a 49% territory
>Goes to 51%

I hope it stays this way, it's actually more enjoyable seeing the effect your assets are having right away.

>>175988776
>tfw you realize stun traps and bombs do 20 damage

>>175988212
>>175988342
>>175988498
>>175988879
Wait, do you not get a ton more assets from different game modes or something?

I've only been playing duels, and I just assumed that getting 1 asset per game was the norm.

>>175989265
Dominion gives the most due to long games, you also get more or less depending on your factions population.

>>175983542
tfw you know the devs made this a thing but they will keep it for the future

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>when you smack down a shit-talking Peacekeeper who thinks you'll be easy because you're a Warlord

>>175988264
>yo

>>175989410
I was surprise we aren't getting a new mode for season 2. I mean they have all the assets there for a siege mode, guess it still needs more work or something.

>>175989498

?

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>>175989440
Warlord is more broken than PK though.

>>175989440
why would he think that? warlord is a much more broken class.

>>175989831

warlords are usually fucking shit

most they can do is headbut spam and try and ledge you, a good one is tough to beat

>>175984809
>>175985712
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOW THE FUCK IS BASH SPAMMING REAL HAHAHAHAHA JUST ROLL AWAY FROM HIM NIGGER JUST ROLL YOUR FAT ASS AWAY

OR USE A DODGING ATTACK IF YOU HAVE IT

OR JUST DODGE TO THE SIDE AS A RAIDER AND COUNTER/GB IF THEY CANCEL IT

Seriously, it's not that fucking hard. Any intermediate level player can counter bash spamming wardens with ease. Against anyone decent, bash is only good as a surprise attack or as bait (i.e. feint bash then parry a dash attack).

I just had an idea.

Would it be possible, while in the Warden vortex, to unlock and walk around the back of the Warden?

>>175989936
>warlords are usually fucking shit
so? even a bad player playing warlord is still a handful. especially if they have their bullshit feats up

>Conq and law will never fuse to reveal their ultimate form and take the shitters by storm

>queue up for Brawl
>match found
>opponents are Warden and Orochi
>quit match

>>175989831
I assumed they were new and I just humored it

>>175990203
> turn on computer
> screen turns on
> turn off computer

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>>175990160

>conq getting unblockable heavies off of shoves

>>175990203
>
>
>

just me?

Anyone on PS4 down to do some duels and help me relearn the game? I haven't played in like a month

>>175990160
Would he have a pole arm length flail or a shield and warhammer?

>>175990648
> tower shield and mace
I'd play it

>disconnect error right as I'm about to cross some fag into the shadow realm
erry tim

>>175990159

how do they get feats up if they are bad?

they can't cgb, they cant feint so you can just parry the shit out of them

>>175989541
Yeah I thought a FFA mode would be coming for season 2

>>175990781
Play Warlord and just camp your team's objective. You'll get your 4th feat after about two fights on point.

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>>175990648
Could have a peasant flail.

>>175990827
A winner stays on mode in an arena would be cool as well.

>>175978910
Anime was a mistake

>>175990625
i'll be available later, post psn

>>175991471
VulgarViper
Shoot me a friend req when your down

>>175989374
Pretty sure population doesn't matter anymore. Or is that not a thing till next patch?

>Yet another 1v1 tournament swept by warlord

When are they going to balance this bastard?

>>175991539
already got you added, i'll send a message later

>>175990827
I'm gonna be mad if season two comes and we don't get some new game mode

>>175991549
It's always mattered and they've not mentioned changing it. It's to stop out numbered factions having no chance. It's why knights have always been sporadic in their pushes, they are always out numbered so during "knight hours" (Euro time) they make big pushes, but when the Euros are asleep they get pushed all the way back.

>>175991674
Really lol
Who are you?

>>175990203
>play duel
>have a genuinely good time
>stay in match even if I'm losing
just me?

>>175991903
Caine619

>>175991714
>they've not mentioned changing it
I guess I'm wrong but I thought they brought that up during last stream or the one before that.

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>>175974512
>muh lorica segmenta
The empire is rising, and so am I.

>>175992080
I don't recall them mentioning changing the outnumber boost, I did a quick check in google and couldn't find anything on the subject though. Not sure why they would change it though, without it it just comes down to who has the most players that deploy assets.

>>175974512

Im amazed ubisoft somewhat did a good semi realistic low fantasy armor for once

>>175992401
And at the same time they add a teleporting ninja. Damn shame.

>>175992476

I like the teleporting ninja

Grind house ninjas are cool

>>175992596
I think they're cool as well, but it clashes with the gritty nature of the game. For me at least anyway.

>>175992669
Fits the 'cheesey action movie' feel I think they have going, imo.

>>175992771
It's a bit much for me, but I wouldn't play the ninja either way so more power to you.

>>175974512
That Eastern roman set makes my dick diamonds.

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HOW FIX RAIDER

This fucking tournament, what a joke. Nothing but a warlord running away and pulling mix ups with the charge.

I thought wardens vortex was supposed to be fixed?

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>tfw you sodomize lawbringer

>>175993761
It's more punishable now but fundamentally it works the same.

>>175993761
>>175993880
It comes out faster now though, so when Warden chains shoulders into each other you cannot react to them, only predict them

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>>175993503
EVEN
MORE
ATTACK
POWER

>allied Kensei does nothing but follow you around and use wide sweeping attacks that hit and stagger you

>>175993679
SypherPK may have gotten DQd but he did also get 2 $100 donations in 10 minutes, so who really won there? :thinking

I fucking hate Skirmish so much.

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>>175993863
>blade sodomy

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>be raider
>opponent side heavies
>go for parry
>they feint and switch to top light 500ms attack
>I feint but can't switch fast enough
>get hit every time

>>175993679

He's a faggot always abusing the cheesiest tactics, "I want to win"

>>175993679
>>175994304
>>175995287
Anybody have a link to the tournament? I know it's over, but maybe I could replay it on twitch or something?

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>>175995641

>>175995447
check isky's most recent vod if you wanna watch his perspective, sypher's when hes done streaming to watch the mod dq him after the finals. no overall tourney stream tho.

>playing Warden
>against a pretty good LB
>good reactions to my shoulders, great at feints (we actualy feinted each other out of stamina a few times)
>after some realy good fights we stand 2-2
>last fight, six seconds in, I ledge him
>all he can manage is a single "Wow!"

wipeout617 on ps4, I am so sorry brother. You're a great LB and you didn't deserve that, but I'm all about that W.

>>175975047
I love it when I'm facing some defensive turd with a bar of HP and I just flying hand axe his ass to death.

It's even better when they inevitably get salty. You know, if you didn't just stand there waiting to parry an attack, the flying hand axe wouldn't hit you. Turd.

>>175994038
thassa spicy meat-a-ball

>>175995701
Who was the one who actually won the tourney? I assume he has a twitch too?

>>175995770
Bruh I'm playing LB I have to play defensively because I have the opening power of a wet piece of paper.

>>175995881
Sypher won but basically got dqed for his running charge thing

>>175995770
>trying to act like it's the other person's fault

Javelin, hand axe, and kunai have practically no wind-up time. It doesn't matter if we was waiting to parry or if we was about to get aggressive; all ranged feats are bullshit. Devs even said they were never meant to be balanced.

>>175995747
Nice to know that arbitrary numbers determines how you view your self-worth to the point of sacrificing others.

>>175995985
>Defending players who turtle
Let me guess... you're one of those players?

>>175995983
what's more fucked up imo is his 4's teammate KingRichard stirring up more hate by refusing to drop the topic. at least iSkys kept his anger off stream and walked away and Kinseymister kept quiet and didn't meddle but the one niggerino had to stick his big ass nose into things like niggerinos do.

>people honestly think valks lmao 2 trip combo isn't OP as fuck

>>175995890
LB is such a pain in the ass against anybody even remotely competent.

>>175996406
Not at all, though I think people are welcome to play how they like and it's up to each player to figure out their opponent.

I'm just saying ranged feats don't punish turtles, they punish literally everyone doing anything.

The only truly reactable porjectile is Orochi's and Nobushi's bow attack. Everything else is nearly (99%) guaranteed damage unless you're retarded and start the throw while the enemy is already in a dodge animation.

You're trying to turn this around on me by saying I defend turtles -- which I wasn't. I was simply explaining that ranged feats as a whole are retarded and they efficacy does not depend on if the player is turtling or not.

>>175996624
do you mean her out of stam punish? if so, several other characters have punishes way stronger than hers, raider can do 90 dmg

>Only gamemode with players is Dom and it's just people with yellow gear and revenge builds

Being oceanic is suffering.

>>175997417
I wish the devs took away attack and defence stats, I'm cool with gear stats but they shouldn't effect the damage you do or take.

>>175997657
Wish they would remove all gear stats and make it purely cosmetic.

>>175997871
YES! This would greatly help imo

They should let you trade in salvage for crates.

>>175998071
Or let you craft gear with it.

>queue for 4v4s because lolorders
>learning valk, rep 1 and change
>matched with a team of at least 3 rep 20+, all geared out
>every. fucking. game.
fix this

>>175998290
rep doesn't matter as much as you think.

New characters are tough to be good with but if you have a fundamental understanding of the game then it's not that big of a deal

any valk players (or anybody for that matter) been noticing that your opponents have been getting free gbs off of blocks?

ever since the last patch, people have been going for gbs after blocking my lights and theyre apparently free

the fuck, ubi

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>>175998381
>hit them twice
>They pop revenge

I swear LB has the worst revenge in the game, he doesn't get any utility from it and he's too telegraphed to capitalize on the increased damage.

>>175998381
it does when theyre rep 20+ warden/lb/warlords with revenge gear that spend all game emote spamming and them getting gearcarried to victory

doesnt help that valk isnt in a great spot right now

its fucking tilting.

>>175998561
>isn't in a great spot

What? Valk is still great, even if you are shit it takes zero skill to pop revenge and spam those knockdowns.

>>175998639
>Valk is still great
incorrect

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Is Lawbringer suppose to be played aggressively or defensively? Besides shoving people off cliffs how does this guy get damage in?

>>175998792
whichever way you prefer, hes stupid high tier right now.
>block, shove, damage, repeat
>parry, unblockable 2 bars of hp
or
>shove, damage, shove, damage, over shoulder, damage, repeat

>>175998792
You don't, he's legit terrible, against anyone with any kind of reaction time you aren't doing shit.

>>175998486
Agreed. I cant even remember a time when I used revenge to fully turn around a 2 on 1 with him.

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why does warlard's heavy attack have to double with super armor while being the parry button and doing a lot of damage?

>knock a lawbringer down
>go for a heavy for damage
>he pops revenge while down, teleporting to a standing position and parrying

ex
fucking
scuse me?

>>175998890
>hes stupid high tier right now.
That's strictly considering turtling. Shoving out of neutral will get dodged and counter attacked so easily

>>175999017
Any class can do this.

>>175999025
but he IS high tier right now. anybody with a solid 50/50 is just insane because it just becomes a guessing game. guess wrong, you take damage. guess right, you might get a little damage off but if hes competent, hes still safe.

>>175999058
just because any class can do it does not make it okay

nobody should be able to pop revenge like that while prone

What's guaranteed damage as Raider?

>>175999146
This. It's asinine that there's any guessing in a fighting game. It should be all about reactions and reading your opponent.

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i felt like making this

>>175998984
Timing is way off to be relevant. It's not like the Alpha Deflect mechanic and offers incentive to be aggressive.

>>175998890
>stupid high tier
again, just because you can't mindlessly throw lights to beat LB anymore doesnt make him high tier. he still has no way to open up turtles or confirm damage without the target first fucking up

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>>175998890
In what world is anybody with eye balls not blocking at least 3/4ths of that?

Also his unblockable is the most telegraphed swing in the entire game. Its a free parry if they didnt dodge first.

>>175999253
Revenge is literally a get out of fucked situation free card. most fighting games have some meter or other mechanic very akin to this and you're made well aware of the possibility by them showing they have the ability to pop revenge.

>>175999408
lbs unblockable is guaranteed off of a parry, friend

>>175999253
Revenge should just be removed outright, it's supposed to be a crutch for low skill players but it's taken on a new life as a "I win" button for certain classes.

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who's ready for nothing but centurions and shinobis in 10 days

>>175999025
>>175999391

Lawbringer is top 5 tier. Everybody knows it but Lawmains because you still beg for buffs, and you're fucking retarded.

>>175999495
only off of light parries
>>175999529
revenge is a necessary mechanic for the team modes, I think.

>>175999538
freewins

>>175999350
Saved.

Thank you ;D

>>175999495
only light parries

>>175999550
The only classes worse than LB are conq and nubushi, he's not bottom of the barrel anymore but he's not in the top-tier

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>>175999550
>>175998890

>>175999550
>top tier
>with no way to open up turtles, or confirm damage without your enemy first fucking up
>>175999638
I'd say he's better than raider as well

>>175999638
>lb
>lower than valk, raider, and kensei
thats a sorry attempt at bait, try again

>>175999550
How do you open someone up? Turtling is his only option right now. Shoving out of neutral WILL get dodged by non retards.

>>175999529
>crutch for low skill players
>says the guy who can't manage a simple meter in a fighting game
Wew

>>175999550
The only reason he's Top 5 is because the rest of the cast doesn't have much to make them good.
1. Warlord
2. Peacekeeper
3. Warden
4. Raider
5. Lawbringer

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So is this thread just people complaining about the character they hate being top tier, the character they like being lowtier or balanced, and saying anything contradicting that is bait?

>>175999891
I don't think anything lower than 3 is top tier

also, what makes raider so high up?
>inb4 unlock "tech"

>>175999753
>valk
>not miles above LB

>>175999942
It's always been like this, how new are you?

all these onesided rep matches.


REAL FUCKING FUN!

>>175999753
Idk but Kensei, but Raider having a decent unblockable and Valk having her armor stab IMMEDIATELY puts them above anything LB has fir opening people up

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>>176000150
>Raider having a decent unblockable

>>176000075
I think they either need to implement proper skill-based matchmaking, or remove gear stats so people are on even footing.

>>176000150
>this delusional
H o l y s h i t

>>176000150
>Raider having a decent unblockable
really only useful after a bit of feint mindgames. if you run up to a fresh opponent and try to land that unblockable, chances are you're getting parried.

overall balance-wise, I think LB is on even footing with valk. I'd consider both of them mid-tier.

>>175999942
Its better than the fighting game general which is NO talk about the game and is instead just waifu wars.

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How to counter a PK light spammer with LB? Once they hit me once I just get completely destroyed.

>>176000415
if you can't manage parrying them, at least try to block and shove them to get some breathing room

really as LB though, you need to git gud and master parrying lights.

>>176000150
Wow dude, you've ejected yourself into the stratosphere of self-delusion.

WOW
O
W

Why is valkryie so unfun to face
>make 1 mistake
>now you are guarenteed to take another 2 bars of damage
who thought this was balanced

>damage reduction
>sharpen blades
>fear itself
>fast as fuck lights and zones
>revenge blender of death

What the fuck even is PK and why is it in this game? Does insane damage, has quick attacks, and has a ton of HP!

>>175999332
>reading isnt just guessing based on your opponent's habits

?

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>>176000475
I have mastered parrying lights for literally every other hero. PK has such fast lights though, and once I get hit by one I'm stunlocked and can't do anything besides sit there until they stop because they keep changing guard position.

>>176000738
>stunlocked
stop using that word

>>176000738
I'm not trying to defend PK, it's bullshit I know. and forget it if the PK knows where their feint button is. if I run into a PK like that they usually try to keep you up close, so sometimes what I'll do is backpedal a bit and if it seems like they're trying to close in I'll throw a heavy out.

>>176000559

I just hate them because every intro a fight is them leaping from fifteen feet offscreen and stabbing me twice, sweeping, then stabbing me twice while I'm on the ground.

It's honestly the most unfun class to play against where it seems every other move knocks you flat on your ass, I'll take a fucking dashing feinting Zerk over that horseshit.

>>176000824
No.

>>176000738
Honestly if you're fighting a PK as a LB you're fucked, they're essentially a hard counter to you.

>Play dominion to take a break from all the "tech" in duels
>Start playing worse because of the dominion cluster fuck
>Go back to duels
>Rinse and repeat

>want to play raider
>cant do anything
HELP

>>176000670
>actually defending shoulder bash 50/50's

Are you an actual retarded person?

>>176001149
Feint side into top
Win every fight

>>175999332
>reactions
>fighting game

I've found the guy who has never played a fighting game besides For Honor.

>>176001027
You just have to go balls to the wall and try and parry everything she throws out. It's pretty rough.

WARLORD NERF FUCKING WHEN?

>>176001227
>feint into top
>get parried
ITS NOT WORKING

>>176001068
honestly why are you even playing duels anymore? 90% of the time you get players who cheese hard or turtle. I used to think it was the mode that would be most indicative of skill, but it's really not, unless you consider turtling "skill"

play dirty 2v2s, that's a much better indication of skill, because it keeps you and your opponent attacking

>>175992269
Ye I'm sure it's just me being retarded

>>176001306
Alright, then tell me what fighting games should be about if not reacting and reading? What am I missing, oh wise one?

>>176001386
I just like there being no out side factors to the fight, but it started getting annoying with more and more people abusing horse shit. I don't even try and parry any more in duels, the amount of people abusing unlock """tech""" just makes it too risky.

>>176000584
>Has a ton of HP
Retarded bait, kys

>>176001149
much like kensei, raider is all about mindgames.

you can soft feint your heavies into a top light stunning attack, once they're conditioned to the soft feint, try throwing some heavies without changing it to the stunning top light.

if your opponent gets exhausted, zone attack them but feint it, then parry their parry attempt. once theyre on the ground, you should be able to confirm a side heavy and a zone attack (most of the time) for ~90 damage

the important thing is keep them guessing. feint your heavies and your zone, but once in a while don't feint them.

>>176001458
Most fighting games have attacks faster than human reaction times, they're all about reads.

>>176000008
That is it. He escapes nearly all mixups in the game, and unlock gets him 40 damage on guard breaks and unparryable zones.

>>175999561
>>175999627
We are at the point anyone moderately good can parry most lights with reliability

>>176000738
Just accept that PK is a completely bullshit class played by the biggest no-skill shitters known to FH

>>175996141
>how dare u try to win u big meanie :(

>>175999616
>free wins off broken DLC characters
yeah, ok usa

>>175999891
In contrast, this is Petemoo's tier list.
1. Peacekeeper
2. Warlord
3. Raider
4. Warden
5. Lawbringer
6. Shugoki
7. Kensei
8. Valkyrie
9. Berserker
10. Orochi
11. Nobushi
12. Conqueror

>>176001501
Well yeah that's my point, people abuse shit, so it's really not a mode that indicates skill.

>>176001694
> kensei
> above valk
> orochi that low
what are these memes

>>176001587
>He escapes nearly all mixups in the game
people have said that raider can tech out of otherwise untechable GBs, but I haven't been able to do it.
>>176001595
that's why a good player uses feints as well, to make their opponent unsure about trying to parry.(or being able to parry at all, because the slow guard stance switchers can't keep up with the faster switching characters)

Other than just getting better at parrying, is there anything I can do to counter Nobushi's spamming poison and running away?

>>176001793
To be fair a Kensei who can expertly feint is a goddamn nightmare

>>176001576
Nah

>>176001546
With the damage reduction at feat 2 they effectively have a lot of HP.

>>176001793
Well I don't know, Petemoo is the best player in the game right now, compared you you, a random poster on 4chan.

>>176001694
>Raider 3rd tier
>Warden 4th tier
>Conquerer last, below fucking Nobushi

Wew lad, I don't think this Peremoo knows what the fuck he's talking about

>>175999891
>>176001694
How is Raider this high on the list?

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>>175999350

>>176001967
unlock "tech" and supposedly he can tech out of GB's that other characters wouldn't be able to.

>>176001853
I'd like to see you react to a 100ms attack. Blocking in most fighting games in some bu holding back, from there you'll need to guess if you're attacker is going to attack low/overhead of grab. It's not about raw reaction speed, attacks are simply too fast.

Raider > LB

t.Raider main.

>>176001967
because while he isn't crazy himself, the fact that he has a counter to all mixups IS pretty crazy

so it's not his own effectiveness that's good, it's his resistance to the effectiveness of other classes
at least, that's what i'd assume

>>176002087
100ms? ez. I can react to 25s, git gud

t. non-fighting game player
It works there because blocking isn't as "difficult"

>>176001908
I mean, it's called thinking for yourself. It's an opinion, not fact.

>>176002148
He has a 50/50 from neutral. His unblockable zone in itself is a 50/50 mix up.

>>176002363
And if you notice, I posted mine first

>>176002396
> expecting me to know who you are and what you posted on an anonymous image board
i shiggy diggy. What do you think those placements, then?

>>176002395
It's only a true 50/50 if they are out of stamina otherwise it's just parry bait.

>>176002148
Have some info on that? Every time I play raider, I just get dunked on.

>>176002148
what's this counter to all mixups?

>Pick my level 2 PK into a Rep 15 Warden
>Spam LMB
>Win two rounds without even taking a hit before he just starts turtling and trying to parry

What a hardcore, skillful class. I didn't even feint once.

>>176001825
It's bleed dammit

>>176002527
Dash guardbreak/Stunning Tap.

>>176001813
You can't feint lights, unless you're zerker

>>176002690
As in do either, or do both inputs?

>All theses patches
>the best classes are still way more OP than anyone else.

What's the point if nothing changes?

I swear to fuck Orochi has a 50/50 from neutral. Between the speed of his top lights and zone, he's unreactable. Am I wrong? Is it because I use a controller? Am I just bad?

>>176002834
Not sure if you can option select it

>>176002489
see >>176002690, apparently dash GB lets you mitigate 50/50 mixups like warden's shoulder

>>176002395
like >>176002473 said its only a 50/50 if they're out of stamina, in which case a few characters get one
it's pretty reactable imo

>>175999350
This post does not have enough (You)s.

Bless you OC fags for what you do.

>>176002926
Can't even parry his top light because if you try, it could just be a flicker into zone.

>>176002934
God, just imagining OSs in this is making me chuckle

>Supposed to be defensive character, but has zero usefull defensive abilities and worst punishes in the game
>Supposed to be hard hitter, but has lowest damage in the game, single move with high damage requires telegraphing from the other side of the moon and does less damage than some other characters GB punishes.
What is the reason to Conquerors existence?

You know, Brawl players are the most asshurt fucks in the game. Every way you play is disagreeable to them. Had a Warden bitch at me for """turtling""" as Raider, which is funny because I was feinting, using unblockables and dodging his attacks. Apparently he would rather I just threw out easy parries for him to kill me with.

You know what? Maybe it's just fucking Warden mains, the obnoxious, elitist cocksuckers.

>>176002737
Umm zerkers can't feint lights either. What the hell are you talking about?

>>176002926
Using a controller is suffering

>>176003128
You can dodge in the middle of a swing to feint a light, or any attack, as zerker.

>>176002737
Conq and Nobushi can. Too bad they are too fucking shit to make use of that.

>>176003108
you sound pretty upset yourself

>>175974180
what does he mean getting slashed?

>>176003108
people get mad at patient Raiders cause there arent many. I do the same, and wait for my opponent to make a mistake, cause thats all you can do as Raider. most i get
>stop parrying so much
nigga wat.