This general is for discussing new, old, and upcoming MMOs, or MMOs with populations that are too small to sustain their own generals. If you are on one of these forgotten/niche games, looking for a guild, or friends, or just want to know the state of the game, ask here.
>Recommendations
http://pastebin.com/4ykaqgvu
>Game databases
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm
http://www.mmobomb.com/games/
>Popular foreign MMOs & MMOs in development
http://pastebin.com/iALuQdht
>Popular upcoming MMOs
Bless: http://bless.aeriagames.com/
Dark and Light: http://www.playdnl.com/
Albion Online: https://albiononline.com/en/home
Ashes of Creation:
http://www.ashesofcreation.com
Previous thread: >>175491782
ded gaems
ded guilds
ded genre
ded threds
>>175676073
How long before the mods come? And are we ever going to play together? And by together, I mean you guys minus me because I don't play with anybody.
So by the last thread it's confirmed to be Ashes of Cremantion right?
>>175677116
God damn
Ashes of Cremation
>falling for the kickstarter jew
>>175677116
More like Ashes of Why Bother Getting Excited for or Writing Off a Game That Isn't Even Out of Alpha.
Or just AoWBGEfoWOaGTIEOoA for short.
>people actually falling for the kickstarter memes
Are people so xenophobic about gook/chink games that they're willing to join pyramid schemes and throw away thousands of dollars for something that won't even be developed?
>>175677903
Anon, you know the answer to that.
>>175677903
Name a single good MMO that isn't dead. People are desperate. Desperate people are easy to manipulate.
>>175677586
broski you can go to Burger King and usually pay $1.50 for 10 nuggets, assuming you live in the states.
ded game general
>>175678172
Maybe he got 100 nuggets.
NovaRO!
>>175677903
>implying there are any good gook/chink/nip/slim games to play
People would probably Kikestart a yellow man's game if they didn't just borrow money from gorillian dollar megaconglomerates instead.
>>175678397
Dude could have.I got 40 once and the cook told me "you made the right choice".
>>175678701
I'm pretty sure chinks/gooks don't pay their employees and just make them work 16 hours days, only to tell them that their salary is tied to how much shit gets sold in the cash shop.
>>175678019
As if it was only MMOs reaping in the cash off kickstarter and other scam sites. People are stupid and willing to ignore all prior evidence because "this time will be different" and "this media object will meet all my lofty expectations if I pray and pay hard enough"
>>175678397
>>175679283
So far I have backed Hyper Light Drifter and Little Witch Academia 2.
No regrets.
>>175679543
Yeah well I've backed Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, and Cube World, so fuck you.
>>175678334
are you ranking up cooking anon
Death to Theme Parks!
>>175679864
Theme parks with sandbox endgame elements are the only good MMOs. Regular themeparks grow stale and sandboxes have no content.
>>175679974
should be sandbox with themepark elements
>>175679974
>Theme parks with sandbox endgame elements
What games do this? How does that work?
>>175680083
That makes even less sense.
>>175680083
I prefer themeboxes with sand elements.
>>175680229
I prefer boxes fill with sand themed elementals.
>>175680313
I hate sand
>not backing skub
>>175679543
>mfw I backed RCRU
>>175681420
mah nigga
>>175679813
I did before I quit.
mabi made me feel lonely
>>175676073
thanks doc
Daily reminder Darkfall: Rise of Agon will take the market by storm, and be the defining mmo of this generation.
is bless ever coming out in the west
>>175681970
Have to make friends anon, or any MMO feels lonely.
>>175679283
jews everywhere...
>>175683678
jesus how come she looked so cute in the 90s and now she's so ugly
>>175684294
wtf is wrong with you? she still looks quite nice today.
>>175683365
Do go on.
I hate myself and want to die!
>>175686074
Life sure is frustrating, isn't it? Don't worry, it's only temporary.
>>175679543
>not backing Konosuba 3
>>175687083
I would honestly prefer runaway magic to muscular endurance because at least it doesn't kill the shit out of my dps and I could pretend they're boots without the final enchant.
>>175686074
>I hate myself and want to die!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP06kxW_M3I
>>175687238
I have no idea what any of that is desu
Let's Play A Game!
>>175687660
>>175687716
>>175687660
>>175687716
IT ENDS TODAY!
>>175687909
The Mokou never ends.I actually want to play games with /vg/.
weebs need to be stopped
kill yourselves animeshitters
>>175688357
>>175688371
You can't stop us, kid.
Have a good day.
>>175677116
Ashes of Lies.
They didn't even make it to launch without going back on their promise.
Why does Albion allow only male characters?
>>175689183
Girls don't play vidya james
>>175689183
Doesn't matter either way cause they're ugly as shit
>>175689339
What about boys that like playing cute girls
>>175685582
Honestly, Anon, I'm just so disappointed with everything out right now, I'm pinning all my hopes on the unreleased, because at least they have yet to crush my dreams
>>175689387
Stop it. Get some help.
>>175689620
>get help for your heterosexuality
what has the world come to
Anyone ever heard of Karos Returns?
Steam just recommended it to me, it's got a bunch of negative reviews from a few years back but looks like it's just relaunched in february.
Gonna give it a whirl I guess.
Who's in?
>>175689895
>>175689589
I'm in the same situation. I was banking on AoC until they announced a Kickstarter and revealed their true nature. Rise of Agon doesn't appear to offer much over the current stock of decade old games, but maybe I've overlooked something.
So, do go on.
>>175689620
There is literally nothing wrong with playing female characters. It doesn't make you gay or a tranny, it's a cosmetic choice that allows to further cultivate your character's aesthetic.
>>175689895
Never heard of it
>>175689339
But in previous thread we came to conclusion that Albion will be filled with filthy casuals, so there will be some grills involved for sure.
>>175689589
Soon we will only have hope for games that release their name and nothing else. We will have our dreams crushed by the first release of actual gameplay information. The ability to hope and dream is truly the worst human trait. It only leads to disappointment.
>>175689895
>it's got a bunch of negative reviews from a few years back but looks like it's just relaunched in february.
>>175689339
I was invited in a mabi guild and according to discord every second member is a grill. I mean pics are easy to steal but they just can't shut the fuck up about assorted real life garbage so it's believable. It's horrible.
Since I'm bored as fug and have a month of my life to piss away into oblivion, might as well ask this here:
Mainly looking for MMOs that either let me go full merchant with a thriving/not ded marketplace/economy to gain shekels and enjoy being evil, have lods of shit to build/craft, or just allow me to be the weapon/armor smithy and/or miner to finally live out muh dwarf dreams. Any MMOs that especially have a focus on any of these three things (especially crafting, smithan and minean)?
>>175690746
Mabinogi
What's the least dead game right now?
>>175690239
>>175690274
something like pic related?
>>175691048
wow is always the least dead of all deads.
>>175691209
I thought it finally started to die off
>>175690746
XIV? Not sure how fucked the economy is and you might need to do more than a month but you can craft crap that sells p. quick. The only problem is you can't be a dwarf, on the other hand the midget race is full sand jew. Well one other problem being you'd want to level a combat class too. It's not a sand box or anything.
>>175690746
Ragnarok online has all those things except for dwarves and mining.
Nova RO more or less has a thriving player market economy and if you play the market right you can profit big.
discord.gg/dUqF3bT
lets play mmo
>>175691048
ESO if you believe Zenimax's lies, but even if they're telling the truth it's split between platforms.
FFXIV and WoW are very alive, for better or for worse.
>>175691313
It's a slow bleed.
>>175691574
>discord
>>175690009
There's nothing more gay than a man who likes the female form.
>>175692239
Apparently I'm a massive faggot.
>>175691574
why go to discord if there's /mmog/? is this not enough for your circle jerk needs?
>>175692639
His ego needs a good stroke and if he tripfags here we'll just filter him.
>>175690746
Mabinogi
>>175693118
do people still play this?
>>175693438
Lots of people, it can still draw in a small crowd for events and I've never had a problem finding people when it comes to getting help in game.
Mabinogi 2.0 when
>>175693118
I play!
>>175694093
Virtual weddings make me cringe.
>>175692639
>>175692723
Not him but if you're trying to get a group together using Discord is way better for doing a headcount and actual discussion as opposed to filtering it through a sea of false flag and shitposting
>>175694464
if that's the case why post here, at all?
>>175694346
That's a storyline wedding though, not a player one.
I mean player weddings are also a thing.
>>175694464
>trying to get a group together
Then I don't know what you're doing here aka the ded general
>>175694464
>willingly using malware
>>175691574
I'm other joining your botnet
>>175696417
>>175683465
Russian version is closing. I think it should be removed from the OP
>>175696972
/poeg/ misses you.
MMOs were a mistake
PERIA CHRONICLES WAS JUST A MEME REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>175691574
>discord
die of aids botnet enabling neurotypical nigger
>>175697085
I just want a fake world where people don't hate me, that's all.
>>175697501
Stick to single player games.
>>175691574
fuck off, the thread is dead as fuck already, no need to make it even more deadder by inviting everyone into your circlejerk
>>175697501
i hate you for saying this
>>175697501
and i want a world where my existence is acknowledged
>>175697551
I have been, just because there's no good MMOs. I want other people though.
>>175697602
I'm sorry.
>>175697656
Hello.
>>175691574
>>175688435
All you need kid is aonther fatman.
>>175697656
i didnt ask for this feel
>>175689387
>Doesn't matter either way cause they're ugly as shit
>What about boys that like playing cute girls
Play as trap?
where can i erp with real grills?
>>175697862
Yeah, I hear America has plenty of them these days.
>>175697501
>>175697656
>>175698271
In a game called Real Life
>>175697784
>sorry
i hate you even more now
>>175698816
that sounds unrealistic...
>>175698553
so ugly
With all the private servers out there, I am surprised there has not been a vanilla rift server.
>>175698271
Careful with that one, anon. Most of my group of friends back in highschool are now married to the healsluts they erped with online. RPing started out as a joke to pass the time. Before long they were doing it unironically. Then they jumped over to erp. Not even a year later their online waifus were ditching their prior lives to move across country with them.
Stay safe, anon. Avoid erp.
I did it. I'm finally FREEEEE no more music training.
>>175700627
Good job, now go for master title.
>>175700627
How long did that take?
>>175700627
Is playing music fun?
>>175700409
>tfw erp to do all the dangerous/impossible things that get me going
>and it's competely safe, always satisfying
I hope I never become that much of a normalfag
>>175701745
A month, mostly just a few hours a day, leaving and checking my PC when my lute breaks or my hunger is low.
>>175701824
Kind of, like all things leveling the skills can be a bitch but using them once they're maxed can be pretty fucking amazing.
>>175700627
>musical knowledge rank b
No wonder you took so long.
>>175676073
stalk
hard
>>175700627
>FREEEEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N8scP0sH0c
>tfw whoring yourself out for nice equips
fuck i really want to play mabi but you guys were telling me to just buy an account and i got discouraged
>>175706656
no fun when everything is already leveled for you.
>>175706656
Mabi is shit though.
>Ashes of Creation isn't out yet
>MMOs are ded genre
>Can't play WoW sub fee
>Play Pserver cuz most mmos are just p2w anyway
I think I've found a valid reason to commit suicide
>>175708224
Same
>>175704914
stalk
elf
>>175708224
>Ashes of Creation isn't out yet
It's a fucking scam.
>Can't play WoW sub fee
You can pay with gold, anon.
>I think I've found a valid reason to commit suicide
I won't stop you, but have you considered just going batshit insane and eventually committing suicide by cop instead? I want to hear about the MMO addict who shot up Blizzard's HQ in a crotchless fursuit.
>>175709026
>playing current WoW
>>175709026
>You can pay with gold, anon.
You have to use real money first before being able to use in game gold.
For the autists who decided to go as a blacksmith (aka me) in Malbanogi, where's a good area to start at for mining and craftan shit? And how much work/autism should I expect to do/use before I start seeing lods of gold flowing in to spend and swim through?
>>175709026
>You can pay with gold, anon.
Not that anon, but holy shit really? I haven't touched WoW ever because I never felt right about paying a monthly sub after already paying for the box. I might just give it a shot now. Thanks.
How the hell do I join the NovaRO guild
>>175709529
You still have to pay an initial sub fee beforehand.
>>175709608
Box price comes with one month. You'd have to bumrush to endgame, but that's no problem if you're buying the latest expansion pack because you can just use the free boost.
>>175708224
>playing 4 different MMOs
>don't know which I want to play more than the others
>end up just posting on 4chan
>>175709026
>It's a fucking scam.
Ik but they are the best jews in the market imo
>You can pay with gold, anon.
Don't have money to pay the initial month to farm 'em goldz due to shitty country
>I won't stop you, but have you considered just going batshit insane and eventually committing suicide by cop instead? I want to hear about the MMO addict who shot up Blizzard's HQ in a crotchless fursuit.
Nah, I still got some dignity left, i might as well let my family find me dead in my bedroom naked cuz i had an anneurism while jerking off to gay furry shit
>>175709974
I came back to dfo literally the same day /dfog/ died... Haven't downloaded nor played (appart from WoW ofc) anymore mmos since
>>175709974
>want to play something
>play nothing
>just re-read old manga in an attempt to relive the past
>and shitpost on 4chan
>>175710437
Expand your horizons beyond Naruto and Bleach, and read something new.
>>175710437
What are you reading?
>>175710167
Post Paypal.
>>175710569
Sorry bro, but my firsts were Love Hina and Flames of Recca.
>>175710570
I just finished Rurouni Kenshin and now I'm reading Houshin Engi
>>175710570
Akumetsu
>>175709401
you will lose money until you're rank1, even then it'd be difficult to gather mats.
Train your Metallurgy and sell unknown ore fragments for 30k a stack.
>>175710727
Read Angel Densetsu.
>>175710727
Kenshin was good.
>>175710731
So was this. Good taste y'all.
>>175702559
Now what are you going to max next?
I need to get my Playing Instrument up still, so I can get Vivace and March Song...
>>175710603
Don't even bother, I'll just shill over some single player rpgs soon and completely stop playing mmos and come shitpost here anyway
Reasons? I'm moving to Spain next year gonna leave most of my gaming stuff here.
The aggro in mabinogi is retarded as fuck
>>175710823
>30k a stack.
Did prices go up?
Last time it was 15k per stack.
>>175710976
Good luck anon. 4chan will be here for you.
>tfwthat guy posting about it makes me want to play WoW now
>>175711058
No, I just overprice everything. Rich lazy people don't care.
>>175711195
Do you sell them in the cart thing or the private shop?
>>175709604
Archer Village, outside of payon dungeon.
Guild name is Nice Meme andwe aren't dead
>>175711231
use the kiosk, it saves space and you won't need to buy a license every time. If you switch channels, the item stays in the kiosk, so it acts as a bag you can't open until you tidy/set up kiosk again.
>>175711149
Same. I know I won't even enjoy it but it's alluring somehow.
>>175711396
Yeah. I would probably continue leveling myWarrioralt instead of focusing on mySPriestmain and eventually grow tired offarming WQs for gear, along with theMythic dungeontreadmill.
>got so bored I actually started playingLoL
>actually enjoying it
Shame that it's a massive grind to actually get to the real game.
>>175711691
It is fun sometimes. I quit for autistic reasons and can never play again but I think about it sometimes.
>>175711691
LoL is only fun with friends and doing stupid shit together.
I stopped playing when Pen stopped publishing the Elo rankings.
>>175711691
Gosh anon, I am sorry. At least play a good game in that genre.
>>175710994
git gud
>>175711935
LoL is the only passable game in that genre
>>175711935
Like?
Smite turned to garbage.
I'm not playing Blizzard shit.
that MxM game was beyond retarded.
And I honestly don't know any others that are still alive.
>>175712338
The only one I would personally recommend isdota 2______but I am over two years clean and have no intention of going back. I missHoNin a weird sort of way.
>>175712465
>Steamy turds
At that point just play an RTS.
>>175712465
Oh yea, I forgot about DOTA.
I don't even have/want steam installed.
>>175712465
Well, I should have added that since I have not played in so long, I do not know of all the changes that may make the game still be worth playing or not.
>>175712338
Mxm was pretty gud actually, much higher skill ceiling than most MOBAs due how aiming works and switching between 2 heroes. Too bad it's even more grindy than LoL
>>175712465
t.dotard
>>175712820
I'm not an anythingtard, shitposter-kun.
>>175712820
>Unironically playing NC Shit games
>>175711691
mobatrash ruined videogames forever
>/mmog/ - Anything but MMOs
Hype/cautious optimism Strawpoll time.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12883267
>>175713152
Nah, modern FPS games did.
when are they going to fix dfo
>>175713227
nah, mobatards ruin every game they play
>>175713226
>optimism
Funny. You raise an interesting point there though, I hadn't noticed all the As, Bs, Cs and Ds until now.
>>175713459
Nah, modern FPS games did.
>>175713590
Nope.
>>175713653
Yep.
>>175713152
Millennial scourge with their buttcheeks spread wide taking it up the ass from trash devs and jew publishers catering to moms and literal retards ruined videogames
>>175713696
Nah.
>>175713696
Twitch community also ruined videogames forever btw
>>175713653
Looks like you never touched Counter-Strike pre -1.6 then if you really think that Mobatards are that bad.
I remember when we just blamed the Jews. Simpler times.
>>175713958
>pre
you mean post
go is also cancer
>>175711691
>playing LoL after what they did to Mao
>>175714104
I think we can all agree Gangplank is the most raped character, having been redesigned for the worse twice.
Mobatards go from game to game saying "oooh how can this game not belike my dota or lol!? wtf no cd on skills? CRAZY!!! thumbs down I had to grind for an hour I am a mentally broken retard"
>>175713983
You can't always just blame the jews.
>>175714160
Works on my machine.
>>175714146
GP is great if you just power farm until level 13 then you can start criting people for 700+ dmg.
>>175714104
>wahhh I can no longer build full tank and shit out damage while literally sitting in 5 people and healing to full every second
>>175714146
GP is still fine, git gud
mari or alexina?
>>175715034
alexina
>>175715034
I believe anons are playing on alexina.
>>175714381
>just power farm until level 13
>pic related
This game is hellish if you don't get second pick in your lane.
>>175714967
He used to be godly and then great. Just fine isn't fine.
>>175715034
I play on Tarlach.
Please play with me.
>>175711691
>not just buying 5-6 champs and play aram only
>>175715034
Mari is the best, it has the most old players.
>>175713040
meanwhile you faggots are shilling nexon games, fuck off
>>175715143
>bitching that your overpowered champ got nerfed
>>175715150
should i?
>>175714967
I never played Mao top anon. I played him support and now his new utl is shit.
>>175715034
alexina
>>175715410
He didn't even get nerfed you raging faggot. Barrels are a better denial tool than mutiny ever was. They just made him less fun.
>>175715410
There is literally nothing wrong with nexon games
>>175713226
>Isn't it wierd how they all start with a letter early in the alphabet? Is it a marketing strategy for lists sorted by name?
Don't you know why Apple was named Apple?
Go back to your general you LoLshitters.
>>175715710
Yeah just like how there's nothing wrong with NCsoft games you faggot
>>175715637
>mutiny
What the fuck are you talking about? Where did I even mention his old kit? He's been nerfed repeatedly after the barrel revamp because he was literally top tier in competitive back in S5/6
>>175715834
>>175715809
Because apples are fucking delicious?
>>175715926
Man I remember just playing GP full crit years ago and my 1st item was maylady.
>>175715834
>>175715926
Oh, I guess you just replied to me to talk about completely unrelated nonsense. Good to know. Great was mutiny, good was raise morale, fine is barrels.
>>175716094
>shitty doto wannabe ability
>shit ability
>great ability
git gud, or better yet just go back to doto with your dumbass denies
>>175715992
Green apple are the best and if you like any other color you're a baby.
>>175715985
>>175716089
This space is reserved for complaining about MMOs and people of the pre-Christian monotheistic faiths. You may handle all the fun you want in the designated fun loading and unloading areas.
>>175716283
You can't bully me, punk.
>>175716261
>doto wannabe
That's the entire point of League of Legends you autist. To capitalize on the success of WC3 DotA with an independent free to play title.
>>175716404
that's the point of the entire MOBA genre you mean, because people got sick of playing RTS and would rather play 5v5 with their hero units
>>175716403
>>175716512
>>>/lgbt/lolg/
>>175716404Sometimes I wonder how many moba 'newfags' are unaware that WC3 dota was ever a thing.
>>175697656
Hey niggy wan some fug
>>175716791
and then you realize that dota literally copied that idea from AOS back during starcraft/BW days
>>175716732
Why link me to lgbt?
>>175716791
DOTA ruined custom games.
the list was 90% DOTA.
I just wanted to play tower defense and Uther party.
>>175716791
tides of blood > dota
enfos > dota
footmen wars > dota
>>175716931
I'm aware although AoS was vastly different in of itself from what dota became., then dota popularized the concept.
>>175717053
I don't understand the point of your post, anon. Nobody was discussing WC3 maps or ranking them in any manner.
>>175710976
>moving to the most neurotypical country on earth
My mind's telling me no...BUT MY BODYMAH BAWDYIS TELLING ME YEEHUS
>>175715992
>>175717171
No.
>>175716974
I am just memeing not-anon I'm sorry.
>>175717171
Do it faggot
>>175717105
I am, just like how you went way off topic from whatever was being discussed further up the thread
>>175716974
>image.jpg
>>175717281
But anon how will I ever live with myself if the hair style I want is lost to me forever?
>>175717372
I'm probably going to, but first I need to come up with a new IGN because I have besmirched my current one with indecent behavior.
>>175717434
Old iphones can be the best bang for your buck because most applefags are obsessed with the LATEST AND GREATEST feature removal from Steve Job's new ego.
Where da mmos at?
>>175717701
In Development
>ASTA is in maintenance again
>>175717528
that makes you a fag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84EevAKfeqA
Technically he is correct I suppose... but then he puts his own referral link at the end of the video.
>>175718004
Actually hetshitters tend to use Apple more because of slutty women being conned by Apple into looking down on "green bubbles" used to indicate a message sent from a non-Apple device. Fags just care how nice the dick pic is.
What's a fun MMO that's alive?
>>175718298
idk wtf u just said to me
>>175718105
It's not a pyramid scheme at all. It's just paid viral marketing, also known as shilling. This is one of two legitimate reasons to not trust them. The other is >>175689095 their belief that a level advantage you can buy isn't pay to win, which bodes very poorly for the future of the game.
>>175718462
Let me fap on your Vella
>>175676073
>>175646641
>>175646991
>>175647367
>THEY don't know about my SONS
CALL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8lqu4itiXY
>>175718583
Straight males buy Apple products more than other options because Apple tricked easily manipulated women into thinking they are a status symbol and included a feature in Apple products to identify messages sent from non-Apple products.
Gay males don't care about this because they weren't the target of this manipulation.
Straight people buy Apple.
>>175689095
>>175718625
Well I guess the question would be to what extent being higher level is an advantage, and by what amount they will be.
>>175690746
try EVE
>>175718892
>EVE
>one month
>>175710994
A lot of it depends on the enemy you're facing. It's actually pretty unique.
>>175711802
It was probably changed because the top looks better.
>>175718004
Mainly just use this thing to play ps1 games and post on here when I'm not on my comp. What I'm playing now.
>>175719714
>anime sameface
>ever a good thing
>>175720062
>hating Smug
>this kills the game
>>175720163I actually didn't remember exactly what that image said. I just assumed it was hating on anime images by the filename. Notice Annie is not smug at all, Riot was just getting complaints from Tencent that the little girl getting beat to death by the guy from 300 looked emotionallly disturbed instead of a more manic insanity. I feel that the new face detracts from the theme of the skin and it causes me to lose my erection when I see it on the loading screen.
Any if you guys remember Secret of the Solstice? It was a fun RO clone.
>>175720394
A million dollars of extra funding in a day and a half is bad for the game?
>>175720649
The Chinese ruin everything.
>>175720649
Have you seen how ugly the old rito splash arts were? The chink ones were actually better.
>>175710903
Probably musical knowledge and the buffs/debuffs and whichever skill gets me the most talent exp. Until my stuff sells though, I don't have the gold yet to keep buying all these skill books.
>>175721089
>the chink ones were actually better
>>175721268
>im-fucking-plying
>>175721981
I want Soraka to heal my dick.
>>175721089
Western v2 = Chinese (case by case basis) > Western v1 > Cucked Western edits
>>175721981
Nice cherry picking.
>>175722168
what about based Western edits?
>>175722356
I mean the official ones like sameface Annie and Graves can murder people as long as he doesn't smoke.
>>175722279
You know you just posted the chink version of alistar right?
>>175722562
That's the point.
>>175722674
and how's that worse than the western version?
>>175722674
Now that's a rape face.
>>175722785
you tell me
>>175722674
>>175722875
Why is the artstyle so inconsistent?
>>175722875
You're making my point for me though, the chink versions were better
>>175723042
>the chink versions are better
Well gave that Nin Online a try. It's uhh. I guess not awful, but it's really bleh.
Also looking at the cash shop in it, holy crap.
>>175723149
I see no proof that says otherwise
>>175723276
Are you sure about that?
>>175723367
Yes
Don't make the thread reach the image limit this early.
>>175723478
I think you need more convincing
LOL FAGS OUUUTT
>>175723550
I think you should try convincing me instead
I'm wait for a good MMO to come out to play until I decompose, what should I do in the meantime?
>>175723839
shitpost on 4chen
>>175723882
This leaves me feel very hollow, like play a bad MMO which is exactly what I am avoid.
>>175723979
You need to introduce yourself to some 'ing's, ESLfriend.
>>175676073
>300+ posts
>50 IPs
merging with /mmog/ was a mistake
>>175724110
you're a mistake
>>175683365
>he sincerely believes this
>>175724057
My English is a fucking. I forget about a lot of word modifiers. It can still be read most of the time.
>>175724541
>a fucking
we /x/ now
>>175724653
how 2 summon succubus?
>>175724653
It's a Youtube meme.
>kinda want to go back to Tera
>look through forums
>community is up in arms
>apparently some guy reverse engineered their networking encryption to optimize the code and they banned him
>thought of going back to GW2 to waste time so went to their general on /vg/
>it's absolutely nothing but erp
There's nothing in that game, is there?
>>175725060
Well there's ERP.
>>175724794
Does a fucking originate from youtube? I'll always associate it with /x/ anyhow.
>>175725119
If I wanted to masturbate I would do it alone and not share my shame with someone else
>>175723839
>what should I do in the meantime?
Learn the harmonica so you can shred that shit over voice chat as you raid.
>>175723839
>>175723979
You know "decompose" but not "ing"?
Just do what we do and complain about MMOs. Practice your Engrish.
pls reply
i kno ur on
How many Age of Sail MMOs are there? I can only think of Uncharted Waters Online. Any others with all the ship sailing and captain-ness and stuff?
would i be dumb to take music as my first talent?
>>175727219
Not really.
You do miss out on a weapon you can repair cheaply if you pick a combat talent.
>>175727380
what would you recommend?
>>175726420
i like beggy...
I HAVE BEEN STUCK ON G3 FINAL DUNGEON FOR LITERALLY 5 YEARS
>>175728083
I'd honestly just pick Close Combat and switch to a music talent later.
But if you really want to start using music then go ahead.
>>175728213
Use the help board.
Or just skip it because DK is shit.
>>175683365
don't you mean darkfall new dawn? Pretty sure rise of agon is just a copy of the original darkfall where as new dawn there's actual changes happening to make it better
>>175728213
I know that feel anon. It's really hard compared to G1/G2, and no one ever seems to feel like helping with it.
>>175728512
But you'd totally skip the plot and doing things in the correct order anon!
>>175729332
this, dark fall roa is going to die fast because its even worse for new players than eve and has no long term gameplay like economy participation besides pvp
Now that nyaa is gone for good I need something else to do instead of weeb shit.
Anyone have some non-weeb mmos?
I don't want to pay for WoW.
I didn't like Wakfu.
PoE isn't an mmo.
And if there's really nothing else I'll go back to RuneScape.
>>175730464
Just use Shana Project
>>175730523
I didn't use it for anime.
I used it for VN and other shit.
>>175730464
>non-weeb mmos?
gw2, ESO
>>175729332
oh shit, is that what it is? Please explain, I am confused now. I thought New Dawn was the reboot?
>>175730629
Don't you have to pay for those?
I don't want to pay for those.
>>175730464
play runescape with me faggot
>>175731015
Fuck it, sure. Why not.
Want to duo some bosses with me? I'm still having trouble doing spider so I can't do that.
>>175730843
You can play Gw2 as a f2p player but you'd have a bunch of restrictions
>>175730792
they are both reboots but ROA is launching with minor changes and mostly quality of life fixes without changing the core game
new dawn is changing the core game, doing things like adding local banking and regional resources to give the game a real economy
Wait, DFO died? Why is /dfog/ in here now?
>>175730464
>non-weeb mmos
What's the point?
>>175731250
wew, honestly anon ROA still sounds better. Local banking will kill DND
>>175731292
ppl just got lazy about bumping the thread and making new threads
>>175731240
the game is "f2p"
>>175731292
Welcome to purgatory. Take a seat, anywhere. We have no chairs left. You many now reminisce about how okay your game was and complain about its decline. Call everything new shit to help sustain your newfound unhappiness and spread it like a virus. Enjoy your stay.
>>175731442Everything was fine until that one update messed everything up, now everything is shit
Why even bother playing MMOs at this point?
If I had money I'd be playing all the single player game I've missed out on.
>>175732332
Why bother living?
>>175732368
Can't you just pirate them?
>>175732374
to wallow in misery and fap to anime tiddies
>>175732456
I was gonna say the same thing but then I realized there's no PS3/4 emulator yet.
>>175732456
My computer sucks.
And there's things like Bloodborne, Star ocean 5, Digaea 5, Gravity rush 2, and more on the PS4 (which I don't own)
>>175732332
People don't like me in real life and find my personality tiring in social media, forums, or chats but usually put up with me in games where I can help them accomplish their own goals.
>>175732368
Money don't mean shit if you don't have the time. I've been NEET for years now and I still don't have enough time to play every game I want. I'm like 3 gens behind on my backlog and playing mmo's just make things worse, they're like 1 huge stall with no end on your back log. The good thing though is I never run out of games to play.
>>175732879
how do i become NEET and not end up homeless
>>175733015
have rich parents
>>175733072
rip, looks like im gonna be a wageslave for life then
>>175733015
>live in US
>get diagnosed with a disability (depression counts)
>collect monies from state and federal programs
>give money to slumlord
>get murdered because Obama made it illegal to own a gun while on SSI but that doesn't stop the guys who murdered you because they clearly don't care about laws
>>175733072
This or claim some metal dease like autisum or some other disability and if the money isn't enough open up a patreon and become a streamer or write up a program/app people would want or draw porn. All of which makes you some decent cash.
Fuck my ass raw I keep seeing WoW everywhere I turn. Is 4chan being targeted?It looks tasty.
what level should i rebirth? i keep reading "whenever leveling gets hard" but is there any "efficent" way to go about it?
>>175733491
you should rebirth on cooldown
>tfw a NEET because I can't get a real job but still have too much pride to apply at McD
I don't know how long I can last
>>175733461
Living in the US sounds easy.
In Canada if you have one arm then you're not considered disabled.
Apparently if you can stand on your own two legs and be able to brew coffee then you can't apply for disability.
It's hard finding a regular job with one arm and no education.
Fuck this place.
>>175733491
It really doesn't matter these days.
Just stay under level 1000 until you have a good amount of skills leveled.
Remember to do exploration stuff for AP too if you desire.
>>175733574
>tfw can't even work at McDonalds because I'm a dropout.
Man, I fucked up my life.
>>175733574
Give oral sex to strangers behind the Olive Garden in exchange for currency.
>>175733595
What happened to your other arm?
>>175733760
Got into an accident.
Had it cut off.
>>175733491
Mabi? Don't really need to rebirth much unless you need to change talents for the talent exp bonus and even then you don't need to reset levels even though you have the option to do so. The only time you should reset your levels is if you're trying to lower your cp(combat points).
>>175733884
Or of you ran out of AP.
>>175733595
Yeah it is. America may be ass backwards in a lot of ways but a lot of stuff sure is easy when you have the strongest economy in the world backing your wallet. Unfortunately no amount of money will make my foreskin grow back.
>>175733595
>if you have one arm then you're not considered disabled
Jesus Christ, I feel bad for you guys.
>>175733952
You are complaining about a vestigial penis cover to a man with one arm. Get a little self awareness you autist.
>>175734062
arm < foreskin.
>>175733609
>>175733884
thanks anons
>>175733015
Live in europe
>>175733595
>stand on your own two legs and be able to brew coffee
>It's hard finding a regular job
Have you considered brewing coffee?
>>175734186
I have applied to Starbucks and some other shit, but they don't want to hire me.
>>175733952
>no amount of money will make my foreskin grow backiktffuck
>>175734062
I was not suggesting our plights were equal, just giving him an example of the shit in the rose garden.
>>175734298
Remember to hate Protestants and never buy Kellog's Corn Flakes. This time it was the Christians, not the Jews.
>>175734294
accuse them of being against disabled people or some shit, you'll get hired in a heartbeat
>>175734561
That's another American thing. Only brown people and transsexuals matter to Canada's oppression Olympics.
>>175734472
>never buy Kellog's Corn Flakes
pls explain
>>175733793
Can you play games? I always thought i would only play MMO if something happened to my arms/hands, and here we are.
>>175731382
except that roa is constantly having their servers go down and will die for the same reason the original died, which is only people who played at the start can really enjoy it unless you macro/bot 24/7 because of the retarded skill gain. There's also the part where there's no reason not to kill every other player you meet besides friends, so it's gonna just be a gankfest seeing as you only lose out on not being able to visit your capital city which is a newbie zone anyway.
>>175734827
Not a lot of games.
I have a gaming mouse and that's usually enough for games like RS or Wakfu.
Only thing that sucks is that I can't type fast with one hand.
>>175733574
>too much pride
Pride before the downfall anon. Learning to swallow your pride can be the hardest thing to do in life for lots of people but at the same time you can get a ton of respect from it. Everyday won't be rewarding to you but you'll definitely grow as a person as time go on, that's if you care about all that metaphorical bullshit that is.
>>175734753
John Harvey Kellog was an American Protestant "doctor" who used psuedoscience to "prove" cutting off a man's foreskin or burning off a woman's clitoris with acid would reduce masturbation. The former caught on for some unimaginable reason. Corn Flakes were also part of his master plan to stop you from masturbating. I'm not making any of this up.
>>175735404
I always learn the most horrible things on this website.
>>175735404
I hope Dante's Inferno rendition of Hell is real, and I hope he's there.
>>175734993
Is it the G600?
I imagine this bastard could get you somewhere. The third click can work like a proprietary alt key for a whole new set of side buttons.
>>175735404
Corn flakes? Stops you from masturbating? I'd love to know how. I'd understand if they were super tasty, but they are just plain corn flakes.
>>175735404
this is a lot to take in
thanks for giving me a direction for my aggressioni guess
>Remember to hate Protestants
also, im 'roman catholic'
>>175735404
>Corn Flakes were also part of his master plan to stop you from masturbating
How exactly does it do that?
>>175735903
It does not, hence why he said pseudoscience.
Protestants belong in a gas chamber.
I aeem to have been spelling his name wrong, 2 g's. My apologies.
>>175735630
I hope it teaches you never to trust anyone who justifies their actions with faith alone - faith in anything or anyone mind you, I'm not just shilling for r/athiesm.
>>175735825
>>175735903
>Kellogg was an adherent of the teachings of Sylvester Graham, inventor of the graham cracker, who advocated keeping the diet plain to prevent sexual arousal. Those experiencing temptation were to avoid stimulating food and drinks, and eat very little meat, if any. Kellogg also advocated hydrotherapy and stressed the importance of keeping the colon clean through yogurt enemas.
>>175735846
Properly directed hate is good. It makes you ready for the next time they do something shitty.
>>175735803
Yup. Got it for like ~$55.
>>175736171
>If you feel like doing something lewd, stop eating meat and shove yogurt up you ass.
You say this man was a doctor?
>>175736171
How did America go from hating sex, to being sluts?
>>175736364
The false dichotomy of the two part system played a major role. Either you were a racist and a sexist or you hated the church. Feminism was all about going against the old ways and that meant all of them. The only way to get anything done in American politics is to paint your opponent as a demon, damning everything they stand for in the process.
>>175736364""""""feminism""""""
These aren't video games at all.
>>175736709
It's depressing, so close enough.
>>175736709
post fmages
>>175736709
I am sorry anon. I did get a little carried away. It's just very frustrating and people should know who their Enemy is.
Why aren't we playing H&H as a family? I thought that was supposed to be a thing.
>>175736829
Someone explain the "bug" thing to me.
Did she have a buggy release?
>>175736938
I don't play but she looks kinda like a moth to me.
>>175736938
>>175736998
bug mage is love
>>175737093
bug mage is life
>>175737093
>>175737210
i miss bug bug posters...
All these posts makes me miss my BM.
I remember I had a +13 spear.
>play a korean casino game
>lose every pull
I've died and gone to hell.
I start it to play maplestory a few days go, in the reboot serve and all. I was planning to play alone from the start, but then some of my friends start it to play as well. Two of them already stopped officially, one of them today. and now we don't have enough people for party quests.
The /msg is no more and even if i was planning to play alone from the start, this whole situation gives me a bad taste in the mouth.
i just wanted to reach to the end game in one chinese rice field guys, fuck.
Whats the most popular private server of pre-big bang maplestory? Not sure if this is the right place to ask
>>175737879
Royals
>tfw watching Overlord and wanting to play an interesting MMO with a group of good friends
At least I have chocolate
>>175738203
>watching shit
wew
>>175738231
There are only so many good things to watch though, and I don't know anime as well as an anxiety ridden shut-in should.
>>175738203
>tfw dropped that show after the 1st ep
does it actually get interesting aside from the generic "trapped in MMO" trope?
>>175738445
Nope.
Typical gary stu power fantasy.
>>175738347
If you're anxiety ridden shut in you should enjoy either Aria or YKK.
>>175736938
A mage that controls and summons bug minions
Hence bug mage
>>175739092
>Aria
I loved that show so much, I was so depressed when it ended.
I wish I could watch it for the first time again.
If I were to play Ragnarok Online, which private server would one be advised to pick? Rise of Midgard seems nice.
any recommendations for an MMO with the best exploration and astmosphere?
>>175739729
Sure, if you like pre-re then RoM is fine.
Nova is the only good renewal server though.
>>175738347
Re:zero was pretty good if you haven't watched it.
>>175740223
No the fuck it wasn't.
>>175740223
No it wasn't. It was pretty shit.
>>175740298
>>175740308
Well i'm not neither of you so it was good.
At least it wasn't some generic shit.
>>175740223
No it wasn't
>>175740432
What are you talking about?
It was the embodiment of "generic."
>loser goes to fantasy world
>is a gary stu
>everything with a pussy wants his dick
>can't ever lose
>gives shitty monologues about how his beliefs are the correct way to live
The only people that liked that garbage are "muh waifu Rem" faggots.
I thought this was /r9k/ for a moment and now it's /a/. Can't we go back to complaining about EmEmOh?
>>175740795
Play Tera with me!
>>175737782
Play elliniams
>>175741197
Waiting for the wipe.
>>175740623
Generic setting maybe, but the story itself wasn't really all that generic. I really don't give fuck about Rem.Besides i can't think of many animes with anywhere near similar setting or story, closest one would be steins gateEven that is pretty farfetched
I just wanna be a Vampire.
Or at least some kind of an edgy blood mage.
And there's only like 3 MMOs that have anything like that.
>>175741416
Wakfu
>>175741416
It really is kinda silly that all the edgy or niche classes/specializations are always left out in most games. It's pretty hard to find a decent game with a good or fun necromancer class and shape shifting is extremely rare as well.
ITT sweet mounts
>>175741416
Just play World of Darkness when it comes out anon.; ;
nOvarO~!
press F to pay respects
>>175742145
FWhat happened?
>>175742193
Retarded company can't handle the shitfest.
>>175742193awful launch, people who paid 150 couldn't play, every major patch caused 3 days of downtime, removed random drops used for crafting and put them, alongside BiS items in the gamble boxes, bots everywhere, they even flew around to steal land, tons of dupes, labor points workaround allowed them to sell millions of labor potions in the cash shop, and allowed whales to skyrocket their way to the top, regrade gems in the cash shop, apex, and much more other P2W items that in many ways were worse than the korean and russian version.
>>175742193
I remember one incident with the p2w whale streamer who got scammed live during some giveaway/charity stuff.
The thing is, the game actually ALLOWS scamming. It's meant to be sandbox or something like that, so tricking others is allowed. But when shits like this happened to a known paying member, and he spends a lot too, the company decided to rollback on him and save his ass.
Of course, shitstorm followed, debating why the company should side with p2w players even though what the scammer did was perfectly within the game's rule.
>>175742547
the community manager is litterally doing wendsday livestreams where he(she) goes on adventures with the NA fresh-start zerg guild... One of his(her) guild members got caught with a mod, denied it, then the mod creator came forth and pointed out the signs of the guild member using the mod, then he admitted it on the forums, deleted his post and he still haven't been banned.
if you've used any money on this game, issue chargebacks, their legal team is really weak, and you can cite failure to deliver product because of all the server downtime.
>>175741860
>>175741416
>I just wanna be a Vampire.
Be a NEET. It's like being a vampire IRL.
>>175743502
I sure hope that show gets a S3.
>>175743614
except instead of making pussies wet they dry up
>>175742547
>have scamming as legit part of the game
well im not surprised it died
>>175743502
who is this qt animes?
>>175743765
RS is still alive and well, and many people praise it. Scamming noobs was so damn fun.
>>175743910
Cyan
>>175743765
>the game should protect stupid people from doing stupid things
really makes my neurons fire
>>175744335
yea, like playing a shit game
>>175741416
>Vampire
That actually sounds like it could be a pretty cool class/job/race is done right.
>Vampire race
>game has day and night cycles
>during the day time, if your Vampire character is out in the sunlight they lose a bit of HP every few seconds/minutes
>standing in shady areas can prevent this along with cloudy or rainy weather that blocks the sun
>buffs, potions, equiptment can also prevent or slow down the HP draining
>certain skills would have a drain effect where you recover your HP everytime you used it
>can build your Vampire to be physical or magical oriented
>>175744968
Sounds dumb.
>>175744990
Just like mmo's, its perfect.
>>175744968
Silly anon. That would require too much creative thinking from the dev. You know they hate that.
>>175744968
>getting punished for no reason
>being useless for half the time
That is not how you vidyagaems. Instead of just losing HP you should also be inflicted with a special burn status and have all your attacks deal big fire damage.
>>175740059
bdo
>>175744968
>going back to the vanilla wow "drink after every fight" combat
nah
>>175746052
stay
hydrated
>>175709397
No you dont, the resub button on launcher just asks if you wanna pay with gold/real dollars
bdo a shit
>>175736829
That's one of mine. I think that was when I pretended to be a bug.
Give me mmorpg with good pvp and fun leveling up system!
>>175748953
this and something that has people on it, no ghost towns and dead chat channels.
>>175748953
>>175749169
error not found
>>175748953
>MMORPG
>Good PvP
You're in the wrong genre of games anon.
>>175749169
>>175749273
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
IM NOT GONNA DIE OF OLD AGE UNTIL I GOT GOOD MMORPG!
>>175748953
>>175749169
How about wishing for something more realistic, e.g. world peace or loli princess waifu?
>wake up
>feel like playing Dragon Nest
>start the game
>feel sad
I literally cant bring myself to play this game anymore even though it was so much fun..
I just want 1 ( one ) friend to play with so it isnt as boring.. please
>>175749716
It'll just be double boring because it'll be even easier
>>175676073
>MMO
>Video game general
Since when have chores been games.
>>175749771
At least I'll have some company instead of my retarded hero pet.
But I guess you're right , it's time to put DN down for good.
>>175749772
Your whole life is a chore anyways.
>>175749883
Good. Now join me in Mabinogi
>>175749713
>new MMO that lets you create a waifu with your character
>customize her appearance, pick her personality, and pick her class from a set of unique support classes just for waifus
>she'll follow you around like a pet and use skills automatically or manually if you choose
>for balance reasons her power level will be similar to that of the helpers in Diablo 3, you'll be doing most of the work
>maybe have some dating sim elements or spots in the world where you can interact with her
Why has no one done something like this yet?
>>175750152
cos its 2017 and sjw are gays.
>>175750152
Well, maybe not exactly like what you described, but PSO2 has a system very similar to that. There's no personalities or specific classes, but you can make and customize a partner for you that you can take on missions with you.
Fuck you, you failed to keep dfog going, niggers.
>>175749934
Do you see a 'whole life' thread on /vg/ ? Life isnt a game, thats why and neither are MMOs.
>>175750683
It's not a popular game to begin, that's why there's no general for it.
>>175750683
>Life isnt a game
Oh anon, you still have a lot to learn...
>>175750595
Rude girl.
>>175751375
What you gonna do, cuck?
>>175750595
It was best to put it out of its misery.
>>175749713
World peace wont give us good shooters games and lolis is stage 3 cancer and prison shower rape!
Give me good mmorpg!
>>175751413
Punish you, spoiled brat!
>>175751897
S-stop
>>175751961
only if you become my gf
>>175751961
Bad little girls should be punished...
>>175736938
>buggy release
the class was a buggy meme tier class for years and the buggy as shit chink designed 2nd Awakening didn't help either. It wasn't until recently that they actually fixed the bugs with her and revamped her which caused her to become one of the top damage classes in the game.
Make dfo great again
>>175752605
>posting a literallywho class
even shit like meme lancers and 3 gays are more relevant than kuno
>people giving up their comfy neet life to slave away for a kike
can someone redpill me on wagecucks? they fell for the worst meme
>>175753010
Kuno is the best
And dont you forget it
>>175753121
How much neetbucks do you get a month?
>>175753137
>dont you forget it
But I forget that Kuno is a class on a daily basis since I never see anyone in game with one anymore.
>>175753306
>actually logging in
omglol
>>175753285
none, my mom works 2 jobs to support me and i get $50 a week allowance, 27 yrs old
>>175750152
i thought the point of mmos was to have real sidekicks
>>175753370
Only $200 a month? Not enough for me.
>mom has to work two jobs
That's kinda sad, bro.
>>175753471
don't worry, ill wait till she dies, rent my house and continue to be neet
>>175753370
you're me except my mom is a neet with rich parents
>tfw have to leave the house to have alone time
Is Luna Online any good? It's an ancient weeb game about dating another neet and have a family with some slime slapping on the side. With shitty grafix like that the playerbase of 3,5 anons could be decent.
Uncharted Waters Online, Voyage Century, and Pirates of the Burning Sea about the only 'age of sail' type MMOs around?
>>175754549
pirates of the carribean online was cool as fuck, you could walk around your ship and have your mates man the cannons and shit. shame it was the only game that did that. imo uncharted waters online is the only decent game you listed, but you may as well play EVE.
>>175754750
Haven't tried Pirates of the Carribean Online, though I'd imagine UWO still wins out on any of them due to its sheer scale and options.
It's a shame the character models in UWO just always seem a bit... meh and off in some way to me.
And please, I don't hate myself enough for EVE.
Yet.
decide my next ro classno ranger/gene/ab, maybe not bragi/service slave for now too
>>175755315
taekwon
>>175755315
sura
Man, what is the NovaRO ID? I just made an account but my username won't let me log in. I checked the account on the site and i saw no traces of any ID. Neither did i recive any e-mails, am i doing something wrong?
someone stop me frombacking AoC
>>175756861
They already met their goal, what's the point of backing them now. Wait until an alpha at least. You'll most likely be able to support them after kickstarter on their website and not miss out on anything relevant.
>>175755364
>>175755665
alright, let's do this
>>175756967
They added stretch goals.
>>175756861
Wait for more info, don't fall for the limited time offer bullshit. They're just trying to pressure you. There's a whole month for them to fuck up or impress you.
>>175756861
>backing a pyramid scheme
>>175757712
A pyramid scheme with only two levels is not a pyramid scheme.
>>175757975
Top Level - Devs - Take home just over 85%
Mid Level - Referall shills - Take home just under 15%
Bottom Level - Conned idiots - Take home nothing
Any good news on anything yet /mmog/?
>>175759323
Ashes of Creation might only be a little bit of a scam.
There are 40 days until E3 2017.
Cornflakes might be able to help with nofap.
We are closer to the sweet release of death now than ever before.
>>175756861
You seriously think it's a good idea to back up a "totally not a pyramid scheme" made, by a guy who has made a fortune with a "totally not a pyramid scheme" product.
>>175759985
>death
Does someone know when it will be released?
>>175760346
They still need more backing but the devs have a solid track record so it should be here before you know it.
>>175756198
Anyone? Pretty please? I've no idea where to find the damned ID and i've been looking for it for an hour now
>>175760618
try making another account with the same email
>>175759985
>Cornflakes might be able to help with nofap.
Why would I try to not do the only thing keeping me going?
>>175760953
So you have nothing left to live for of course.
>>175760760
Should i be recieving the id in an e-mail after registrating? Cause they still send me e-mails for password resets, but i don't get anything else
>>175761123
I got a welcome thing in my email but buts about it
>>175761298
So how do you log in through the client? Was your e-mail or username the ID? Cause neither works for me. And if it's smth else where did you find it, given how my account page on NovaRO doesn't list anything like that?
>>175677903
Do you even know what a pyramid scheme actually is
>>175761471
It's the username
>Have enough funds to make game
>Kickstart it anyway
>>175761471
Try resetting your pass word and log in through the client with the username.
Since you're able to send password reset emails it probably means you just need to set a new password to log in.
>>175761732
>ask for more money to add more features
>GREEDY FUCKS JUST MAKE THE SHIT GAME THE CHINESE INVESTORS PAID FOR
>>175761876
>asking people to pay in advance for an idea
>>175762047
>people want something
>there is no funding for it
>Hey, let's work together to fund it so we can all reap the benefits of the final product.
>EAT SHIT SCAM MOTHERFUCKER PYRAMID SCHEME BASTARD FUCKS.
>>175761623
>>175761737
>>175760760
>>175761123
Phew, seems it finally works. Thanks guys
>>175762478
Yea i like those kickstarters that "release in early 2015" then "delay to 2016" then its released but without any milestone goals, and they start working on next kickstarter game before finishing DLC they promiced in kickstarter milestone.
Ideas can die.
>game by the fucking everquest next developers and staff
wow take my money!!!
Darkfall is tommorow, who /hype/?
>heard that Albion online is in beta stage
>decided to try it out before release
>registered on there website
>downloaded client
>turns out i have to pay to "betatest" for them
>>175763187
Meanwhile there's successful Kickstarters as well. Not that this will be one because it's an MMO with only two digits of developers but still.
>the two developers the team for crashes of creations have are
>a web designer
>and a fucking mobile app creator
>>175763442
>lots of neat features
>large open world
>absolutely no content
Yep, that's a litter box.
>>175754549
>>175754750
Try blackwake
It's not really a mmo but you can roleplay as a pirate
>>175753471
>That's kinda sad, bro.
Some people just like working. I absolutely hate it, and not in a "everyone hates work" sense. I would rather lay in bed and stare at a ceiling then work.
>>175764098
Sounds familiar, but can you actually be acute femalecaptain
>>175764068
>sandboxes have no meaningful content
>theme parks have no meaningful gameplay
>there will never be a game with support classes again
>even drive by buffs seem rarer than ever
>rather than making tank/healer more interesting they're just making them DPS with defensive cooldowns
>>175765084
you can work like this too
just join some human immobility research project
>>175766121
This is one of my biggest gripes with modern MMOs. They throw all sense of teamwork out the door and it becomes "welp you've all got dodge buttons, good luck" shitshows like Guild Wars 2.
>>175766361
Well you cant have class roles and action combat together
>>175766121
Ashes of Cremation has a bard class.
>>175766361
t.dpsbab who sits in fires and yells for heals
>>175766495
Why not?
>>175766526
Fuck that I play healers to simulate the ego stroking admiration that girls get on a daily basis.
>>175766121
For whatever reason modern MMO players have an autistic obsession with being able to solo everything and treat their parties for dungeons or raids like they're beneath them.
>>175766495
How does it feel to be wrong?
>>175766851
Tera would have been neat if it wasn't the pedo game of the century.
>>175766851
What do sexy children with animal ears have to do with anything?
>>175766648
That's pretty pathetic anon
>>175766998
Sure it is, but nobody ever gets excited because DPS #1424321 in their guild logs in for the evening.
>>175730464
https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/
>>175766998
>he isn't pathetic
>>175766790
I play solo because I'm a horrible person
>>175766963
Just don't play a Elin then? I been playing the game for years and I have yet to make a elin.
>>175765614
No, but you can be a cute bara captain
>>175767426
You should stop playing MMOs then.
>>175767572
I play MMOs to punish myself for being a horrible person
>>175766851
Elins have an entire containment thread for themselves on this board. Get out,
>>175766361
Yep, it's all to support tunnelvision and make things less complex because that's """"""""fun"""""""
>>175766790
And this mostly, not saying people shouldn't be able to solo at all but it should definitely be less effective, ie you might need to manage resources or heal more
Grouping in an mmo should always be a benefit, but that just doesn't happen in the days of quest by railroad
>>175766851
Tera has artificial action combat
>>175767426
This. I don't deserve a team...
>>175767572
...but I still want one.
>>175767148
That's why trinity is an inherently broken system, >muh dependency and teamwork is just a thinly veiled excuse to slot X roles into the raid and have a role dedicated to literally watching people's HP bars because they can't do it themselves.
Is DFO worth getting into if I look for something grindy but don't like people interactions?
En Oh Vi Ay Ar Oh!
>>175767962
Just play a single player grindfest JRPG.
>>175766790
A lot of players are coming from single-player RPGs and expect something similar, but with 100x bigger world and other human players occasionally crossing path.
The way party forming works in most games is rather primitive and forceful. Straightforward stuff like "you need at least 5 people and / or 1x tank x1 swordsman 1x wizard 1x healer" to go into the dungeon is horrible. Why is there no system like "you can go anywhere you want alone, but you can hire some mercenary (another human player) in the nearby town to help" and only form parties with players you already know.
>>175767658
>provide counter example in a discussion
>REEEE containment general
Fuck off
>>175767892
How so?
>>175767978
Enoviaro is my favorite MOMRGP too.
Does anyone remember the party system on Trickster?
5 people of same gender=x2,5 exp
5 bunnies/dragons/lions etc.=x5,0 exp iirc
Why hasn't this been recycled in newer games?
>>175768413
That sounds terrible. Why do you want this?
>>175720851
>Chinese
Yeah, the commies ruin everything just like how they're ruined.
>>175767928
Sounds like you're just mad your character majored in feminist dance DPS theory instead of something in demand.
>play a tank
>everything is usually fine but the DPS sucks
>play a DPS
>damage is much better but whatever tank can't even hold aggro off the healer who can't keep up
>play a healer
>tank can't hold aggro and DPS does no damage
>>175768548
I-It makes the overall gameplay more fun
>>175768573
>implying I didn't have 1 of every class because autism
>>175768708
this is why most mmos allow you to solo, the majority of players are shit and hold you back
>>175768708
You forgot
>play a hybrid character like a bard or monk
>suck at literally everything
>>175768806
Me too anon, me too.
>>175768708
>>175768910
Make friends with good players. Queues were a mistake and you Kirito wannabe "I don't need anyone else because I'm so great." faggots are the worst.
>>175768910
>the majority of players are shit and hold you back
this is what each of these shit players thinks
>>175769052
>Queues were a mistake
I been sayin' this for YEARS, automated grouping and queues for PvP were the blow that brought the genre to it's knees.
>>175769168
Everyone has been. The antisocial people it beings to the genre add nothing to the games. MMOs have to be about bringing players together.
>>175769168
>wanting to spam the shit out of every channel instead
no thanks
What if you're an autist who is afraid of people and doesn't know how to make friends? Queues are actually a blessing for me.
>>175769329
>missing the point entirely
You're supposed to play with your friends and guild, not random assholes.
>>175769359
Me too thanks
>>175769443
What if you have no friends nor guild?
>>175769359
typing an LFG message in a public channel never exactly took social finesse, anon.
>>175769329
I wish fags like you would go play single player RPGs and have NPC party members like you seem to want so badly.
>>175769510
Make some or join one. If you're not playing with friends these random players may as well just be AI companions.
>>175769265
so much fun
>>175766495
wildstar
>>175769574
But I like seeing others having fun with each other.
>>175769359
>>175769510
>afraid of people
>still parties with people through queues
>>175769859
There's no interaction with queue robots.
>>175769624
>join guild
>nobody talks
>nobody wants to do dungeons unless it's with the inner circle clique
>inner circle clique just hang out in their secret discord laughing at everybody else
>>175769987
If you can't beat em, join em.
>>175769987
What shit kind of guild are you joining that they unironically use Discord?
>>175769443
What? Playing with random assholes is how you make new friends.
Even in games with queues I've done this before (even nu-wow amazingly), though what kiboshes it nowadays is pacing and difficulty.
If it's slower and difficult you will make friends because you will have time to gauge people. If it's all a steamroll people are interchangeable and they know it.
>>175770232
>people are interchangable
That's cold
>>175770232
>spam the shit out of every channel
This isn't how you make friends.
>>175769987
>tfw a long time ago was the inner circle DPS that got slotted for every raid
>spent my free time organizing groups of our weakest players to get as many upgrades for them as possible in a day
I would have understood you anon. We would have been friends. :(
>>175770232
That's a good point. My MMO friends came from long frustrating nights working our way to the bottoms of dungeons. When you speed run piss-easy loot pinata content nobody seems to matter.
AoC stream today at 5 EST
Any of you guys interested in seeing what this juice salesman has to show?
>>175763565
Don't you know, anon? There are no such things as beta testing anymore, not with mmos. Once the game hits alpha it may as well be done. They'll charge full price for admission, and a little extra since they're letting you play early. Find any bugs in a beta? Take some time, get to know them. They'll be there years after release. But hey! Give the company a few hundred dollars and they might just let you have a mount.
>>175772136
It has potential if the combat isn't shit.
i want robots to take over so i dont have to deal with people
>>175772659
when robots take over they most likely make it so they won't have to deal with people as well
>>175772659
Just stop playing MMOs.
>>175773023
maybe they will keep us like zoo animals
>>175766851
reminder that EU/US can't run fine on the highest budge specs
meanwhile JP/KR can run at max FPS at present 4~5 on fucking hardware 8 years old
>>175774864
cool story
>>175774864
I can run it on my Thinkpadin 480p.
>>175772659
I want to be a robot
>>175772330
>western MMO
>non-shit combat
pick one and only one
>>175775849
I mean combat depth not flashy lights and animespeak shouting.
what's so bad about dex? (mabi)
>>175776032
>Wow tier tab targeting combat
>depth
>>175775218
It's a huge fucking issue, for some reason western variations always have issues with performance.
Like hello what the fuck are these people doing? Literally just change the strings and leave it be.
>>175774864
Tera still has those optimization issues? Damn, it's been like seven years now.
>>175776265
>WoW tier
No.
>tab targeting
Not a deal breaker by any means. Aiming is not depth.
>>175776032
combat depth can be found only in turn based games
>>175776476
What did you think of Blade And Soul's combat?
>>175776032
https://youtu.be/KTNuxmformY?t=20
wow such deep and interesting combat!!!
>>175776716
When are MMOs going to give up on the whole seiging a castle nonsense? It's never fun.
>>175776496
Every game is turn based. Each turn is called a tick, and most turns are spent waiting on actions to complete.
>>175775849
Mmo combat is terrible outside arena anyway, because mob design and ai
>>175775849
>MMO
>non-shit combat
>>175776496
>>175777070
Autism.
>>175776970
i agree. we need more flowchart ai scripts to fight
>>175776579
>implying /mmog/ plays games
>anons still think you can do action combat with hundreds of people on-screen, and also make it enjoyable at that scale
>>175777097
>>175777229
>what is Vindictus
>what is Tera
>what is BnS
>what is BDO
>what is DN
>>175768413
That would require your mmo to not be dead and force people to only party with certain genders/class.
>>175777501
Proving me right? Not necessary, I'm sure everyone here agrees already.
>>175777284
When are fighting game devs gonna make MMOs?
>>175777284
I'm all for trying to innovate but how many times does a mechanic have to fail before the industry stops wasting their time on it?
Lets go ahead and take yet another stab at rifts and public event quests while we're at it, might as well seal the coffin with as many "shitty MMO indicator" nails as possible.
>>175777501
>BDO
>>175777470
Wasn't there a Kingdoms something something MMO that was based on some Xbox games? It featured huge open field battles with action combat, I think.
>>175777704
>public event quests
Ashes of (re)Creation has those too, don't worry. I can't understand why people think it will be any good if by some miracle it's not a scam.
>>175776248
Who said dex was bad? Its not like you can make stat builds in that game.
Have a good day.
>>175777646
Sounds like you never played any of those games kid, stick to your WoW.
>>175776248
Old news about hardships of leveling certain skills. Majorly irrelevant. Squire grinder drops more failing potions than you'll ever need. If you are not doing that, resets are available for everyone, should be enough -dex if you are under 1-2k worth of level up dex. And heavy armor halves the rest. Generally don't touch "guides" older than one year.
>>175778050
This thread is my first time hearing about it, and my guess is extreme desperation.
I really don't understand why this genre is just so stagnant and awful. Lots of other genres find ways to innovate, and I feel like a developer could easily use polls and market research to figure out what made MMOs so popular in the first place.
My guess is it's because MMOs are biggest genre aside from mobile games to be infested with the korean grindean formula, that you're slowly starting to seep into other genres now. I'd happily go back to paying a monthly fee for an MMO with absolutely NO cash shop, freemium, pay-to-not-grind, bullshit.
>>175752605
>and they still refuse to expand the avatar selections
>>175776716
>the transition from prerendered in engine footage to actual gameplay
Jesus Christ. How did this pass quality control?
>>175778485
Stop pretending anyone is calling WoW good. Nobody in this entire thread has.
>>175778612
Well, the answer is already there and it failed.
WoW made mmos popular. Before WoW mmos were a niche hardcore gamer need thing.
Everyone tried to copy WoW, and failed, so basically the old formula is fucking dead.
>>175737879
Either go Rien or Legends. Destiny and Saga are good if you like custom stuff that enhances gameplay.
>>175737901
>broken content
>account creation still disabled after 4 months
Nigga what.
>>175778612
>no cash shops
Subs only don't make enough money. They want more and cash shops are the easiest way to do it.
>>175777501
None of those games have clever mob ai or ai fights with depth
I'm so bored
>>175777501
>posting replies to garbage posts and expecting a response beyond nuh uhhhh
>>175778985
they make "enough" but publishers are jews, same reason cash shop shit has been seeping into so many other games lately
it'd stop as soon as consumers stop tolerating but people are fucking stupid
>>175776248
stamina is a meme, dex would be relevant if you couldn't just rebirth every single day up until fucking 1000
>>175778612
gooks cant make good MMOs anymore because heavy static + dynamic taxes meaning they have to make three times as much money as they used to do break even
>I feel like a developer could easily use polls
Never a good idea, MMO players are stupid and don't know what they want, they're also masochistic as fuck and the best way to get a good MMO working is to strip every single quality of life feature away from people so they have to bond together to work around said fucking missing feature.
It's over no matter what, individual developers are too afraid to pursue MMOs because of the boogeyman conspect of "birrion dorrar to make MMO" and other fantastic memes, MMO playerbase have turned into shit because the modern MMO is seen as the base standard
Maplestory had no budget and less than 5 people working on it. Most profitable MMO.
Take a fucking hint, MMO devs
>>175778612
MMO players don't kow what they want. I hear people say they want WoW end game in a new MMO all the time. What fucking end game is that? They describe all sorts of convoluted sandbox bullshit then get repulsed when you suggest a sandbox game with all of that.
Sub fee MMOs don't exist anymore because you can always make more money with a cash shop and people love money. There is no going back after Pandora's Jew gold has been uncovered.
>>175778997
Name one MMO that does. Specifically a western MMO if you want to continue that reply chain.
>>175779116
Argue about video games you don't like with us.
>>175772659
im still waiting for fembots
>>175779438
Thats what im saying.
None of them. Thats why mmo combat sucks generally
>>175779452
hopefully soon. although we will likely have to acquire them from some underground black market or something
>>175779558
name one good game with good AI
doesn't even have to be an MMO or anything
>>175779558
Name a single game ever made that has """"clever mob ai or ai fights with depth""""
>>175779689
Halo? Dunno lol but i bet its a shooter of some kind
>>175778612
It's the reason a lot of other games stagnate. Investment vs profit. MMOs take a lot of work and a lot of money to keep going. Especially since shiny graphics is an arms race you can't win.
So, no risks taken ever. A niche audience can't be a target for a product that needs to be big as it can to start turning a profit. So the idiots just keep trying to release the same core thing with tweaks, hoping to scrape a slice off that WoW glacier.
>>175779808
ARMA 2
>>175779869
>some shitty ass shooter
how does it have """"clever mob ai or ai fights with depth""""?
>>175779869
>a game that manages to stress out even the most recent and strongest of CPUs because of how many calculations the AI does
>"duude lmao just now do it for massive multiplayer"
also arma AI is turds
>>175779834
>Halo
>good AI
This is the game where you could stand on a really tall box and enemies would lose line of sight and stop shooting at you.
>>175779869
Okay so you want one of the most CPU intensive milsim AI systems on a massively multiplayer scale. It's not possible.
>>175780025
>>175780075
The AI is actually pretty outstanding. They organize proper search parties to weed out snipers and whatnot. It's not about them being smart because that's impossible, it's about giving the AI the tools to adapt to a player's actions.
>>175780075
i don't know about Arma 2 but Arma 3's ai are better than most players when it comes to close quarters combat. I'm pretty sure they let the ai cheat a little bit.
Is FFXIV any good?
>>175780262
Whatever, at least i was right about it being a shooter
>>175780727
Yes but it's so mainstream it's starting to overtake WoW so we can't play it. Also fuck off to your general, etc.
>>175780631
>computer AI is better at accurately shooting at a moving target because it knows where to aim for headshots at any given time
you don't say
>>175780936
Why would I want to ask the people that circle jerk it in a general? obviously they'd say yes.
>>175781048
Not what I'm talking about at all. I mean as far as knowing your route through a complex area or if you turned around while circling an obstacle. Nobody considers aiming to be ai.
>>175781319
/vg/ is usually pretty honest about what to expect out of the game and who it's for. /wfg/ has been warning people to stay the fuck away for years.
So what's the take away from all the shitposting these last two threads? Still nothing worth looking forward to?
Nothing
>>175782336
Basically yeah
>>175782575
I play MMOs in the vain attempt to make friends but I'm too antisocial to even keep the most basic of friends. At least I can play with other without too much social interaction in MMOs.
XIV is my ur-example of a polished turd.
Looks great. Good worldbuilding. Nice music. Lots of little things like pets, mounts, casinos. Armory system is linda cool if you're an altaholic. Character customization is good.
But then, the overworld is instanced zones with tons of invisible walls. The story is rubbish and you're forced to do all of it. Combat is seriously underwhelming yet still bloated. Absolutely no meaningful gameplay customization, only one stat is worthwhile for you, gear progression is only vertical, and cross class skills is acsham because of what's available everyone takes the same useful ones. Crafting is a great system that's entirely ruined by RNG and macros.
'm subscribed now only because the cosmetics game is on point (great armor designs really) and the alternatives are also pretty bleak. I might just pick out all the really bad stuff because a lot of the wrapping is so good, but when the worst part of a game is the gameplay something is fucked.
>>175783541
>>175780727
>fucked up the quoting
DFO is still alive ?
>>175783541
How big is his dick?
>>175784950
lol
Legit question, why don't people play Wildstar?
I've been playing it recently and it's honestly fun. Aside from some cash shop jewery (that only makes you level faster) and the art style, what's bad about it? Leveling and questing isn't grindy, it's fun and varied, there's lots of stuff to do on the side, professions are fun and varied, paths are unique and have a lot of content, dungeons and instances are good, music can be great at times...
I really don't get why it's not more popular. It's just outright fun to play when you get past the cartoony look.
>>175783541
I found the armor (not clothes and robes) to be pretty bad in general in FFXIV. Otherwise I agree.
I don't play it anymore because it just wasn't enough for me to look cool, and the character models are very simple and lack real customization. But then again, I don't have an alternative, either.
>>175785697
cats are fucking dumb
only a cat girl is acceptable, so fuck you
Which dying mmos run well on a toaster? They also have to have lots of options for dressup.
>>175783541
This is how I feel about what little I played of Bless. Their biggest weakpoints are the super linear questing in an open world and fucking up every ability so it can be used tab targeted or action targeted with neither feeling good at all. Aesthetically it's amazing but would make a better movie than a game.
>>175785697
Most people look for an MMO with a checklist of sorts, myself included. Pay to win and cartoony artstyle means most people won't even give it a chance. Its deadgame status puts me off, which is ironic or something.
>use 40 (FORTY) hell tickets
>get ONE (1) epic
can't make this shit up
>>175785697
>why don't people play wildstar?
The launch was a record breaking shitshow. It's sad because the game really is great at its core, but the launch was inexcusably bad for months with both frankly incredible amounts of bugs and really tremendously shitty optimization. The UI was (is) bad but mods made it great. Mods also made mouse aim possible, the game was not designed around it despite being far superior to play that way. It also raped casuals hard - people swinging into dungeons and adventures when it didn't crash got reamed if they thought they could fuck around without dodging, interrupts or proper gear. If you made it to the endgame there were no casual or solo options worth doing.
I'm happy to say all of those problems were fixed in the f2p and steam launch but by then it was too late. Their incredibly fair F2P system is good too and has helped but it's not perfect. And they introduced massive power creep that turned a fun early endgame into the equivalent of WoW heroics, which really turned me off last time I returned.
>>175785924
I really like the heavy armor before it goes full anime, mythrite for example is great and simple, reminds me ofrunescape. But the regular clothing IS the important part. Very few games let you dress down your armor how you want and let you look like a normal adventurer.
>>175788203
that's pretty average, any higher would be worse
>>175788565
I remember I couldn't run it on my toaster well.
what mmo lets me be a big guy berserker
>>175735228
This. You are speaking the truth, Anon.
>>175741746
It will be about Garu
>>175786813
PSO2 runs on toasters and has a lot of options for dress up. It is the main reason I stay.
What games let me play as a cute undead girl?
>>175794085
>pso2
did that ever get an NA release?
>>175794392
Japs hate NA, so no.
>>175794392
Baka gaijin piggu.
>>175794392
You'll have to play with the nips. I've been playing for about a year and a half now. There is a tool that translates a lot of stuff.
>>175794657
Can it translate the chat too? Not being able to communicate in an MMO sucks.
>>175794392
From what I heard, its some issue with SEGA NA and whoever published it in SEA or something.
holy shit
I picked up a whole fucking BOX full of Ragnarok related discs of remixes/doujin music/elemental/battle offline and all that kind of shit
and one of them is something unholy
>Disc 1 is .mp3's filled with erotica that just consist of ragnarok related names/places and lesbian nips having intercourse
>Disc 2 is remixes of the original soundtrack
>>175795497
I think there is one but I don't use it. I don't really talk to the nips much. You could ask in the PSO2 general.
>>175795773
It would be a licensing nightmare and I would worry they would censor some of the lewder outfits.
>>175795776
Upload please
>tfw no bf
>that AoC stream
Am I supposed to open kuma's Victor chest? Or just sell them?
>>175796038
wait, I found out that there's a second one and I'm looking if I can find it too.
>>175796843
How bad was it? I would like to feel ever more superior to plebeians with delusional hope.
>>175797697
Was almost all discussion, here's the footage of the game they had. The video is lower quality than the stream was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vBXcNov6uE
>>175798297
>These tokens will allow players to succumb to the darkness inside their soul
I don't even believe this shit. Who are they even marketing this to?
>>175798916
Are you tall and cute?
>>175795497
since when have you needed to communicate in an MMO?
>>175799243
How can you ERP if you don't understand what the other person is saying?
>>175799158
Yeah, here's a really hard one, are you a girl?
>>175799404
M-Maybe
>>175799404
Define
>girl
>>175799297
>not ERPing through emotes and animations
you are only on a couple levels of ERP
>>175799513
>>175799528
Do you have a penis?
>>175799528
>Define
>>girl
G.uy
I.n
R.eal
L.ife
>>175799698
D-Define
>penis
>tfw you're a girl but everyone thinks you're a boy
>>175799957
>tfw biologically intersex and get lumped in with easily manipulated degenerates
>>175799830
something you should like
>>175800295
I have a lot of things I like. Mostly because I like them. So, yes. I have a greaty bounty of penises.
>>175799957
>tfw you're a robot but everyone thinks you're just another fleshbag
>tfw no gf
>>175800428
Will you at least wear a skirt?
>tfw you lie about your gender online to avoid complications
>>175800642
Naturally.
>>175800896
ok you are my gf now
Jesus christ this thread
Is this what nihilism looks like
It's what it looks like when no mmo
I just want a husbando who protects me.
>>175801053
Wonderful. What games do you play?
too bad you aren't a girl, loser LOL!!!!
>>175801159
Pessimism, anime, /pol/, memes, and traps.
Everything seems to be in order on my end.
>>175801378
MMOs?... Currently nothing
>>175801790
We were truly made for each other.
which one of you is this?
>>175801931
Is that what you look like? I'm in love
>>175801936
>>175801931
This is me
New thread without degenerate erp olease
NovaRO
>>175802381
*unzips dick*
It's too soon, wait a little longer.
>tfw you get a gf and 10 minutes in you are cucked
>>175802738
suguha is a goddess, lord forgive my dick
SHIT show though
>>175802738
Who cucked you, anon?
>>175802597
*licks it like a lollipop*
>>175803174
Sir that's inappropriate behavior. We're in a Dairy Queen, not a gay bath house. Hurry up and place your order.
can we have a new thread yet?
>>175803738
No, fuck off.