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This general is for discussing new, old, and upcoming MMOs, or MMOs with populations that are too small to sustain their own generals. If you are on one of these forgotten/niche games, looking for a guild, or friends, or just want to know the state of the game, ask here.

>Recommendations
http://pastebin.com/4ykaqgvu

>Game databases
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm
http://www.mmobomb.com/games/

>Popular foreign MMOs & MMOs in development
http://pastebin.com/iALuQdht

>Popular upcoming MMOs
Bless: http://bless.aeriagames.com/
Dark and Light: http://www.playdnl.com/
Albion Online: https://albiononline.com/en/home
Ashes of Creation:
http://www.ashesofcreation.com

Previous thread: >>175231629
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Don't play NovaRO with us!
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>>175490184
>and switch to jap locale
this is the only thing keeping me from playing on kMS
I really don't want to swap locales every day.
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>>175492271
You can't stop me!
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>>175492286
Why would you need to swap locales? I've been using jap locale for about 6 years without issues.
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>>175492286
Fair reason too. I tried using applocale for KMS once, and it turned everything to garbage text as you might imagine.
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anyone played Kingdom of Loot
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So I've been trying to sell some platinum hammers in my personal shop for a week now in mabinogi and just got some pm or message or whatever from someone saying that my hammers couldn't be bought with direct withdraw so I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong here. They go for like a little over 2mil each so I can only sell them in Belvast.
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>>175492453
Unless you're using XP or below, you can't launch the korean version of maplestory while on the japanese locale.
Applocale is a ghetto fix and pisses Xigncode off
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If anyone is interested in joining our guild in Nova RO, our hometown is archer village (outside of payon dungeon). If no one is there, post your ign and someone online will contact you probably
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>>175491782
asses for your breasts, sire
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>>175496835
>no dark elf asses

at first you may be wondering

why would Shiranui expose her ass?

but i have the answer

it's not as complicated as you think

you may think "oh its because shes a slut and thats what sluts do"

but that couldn't be farther from the truth

Shiranuis generate a lot of inner heat in their bodies and do not sweat like humans do

they cool their bodies the same way dogs cool theirs, except while dogs cool their bodies through panting, Shiranuis cool their bodies by exposing their asses

their asses contain structures known as arteriovenous anastomoses, which link arteries to veins before the two can meet in capillaries. when it’s hot, these structures dilate, allowing more blood to reach the skin surface in order to cool down

a cool Shiranui is a bare assed Shiranui, so keep that in mind

also, their asses are quite sensitive so please don't slap them on the ass very hard

i'm saying this because i know it has become a hobby of sorts with you humans

Shiranui are not for sexual abuse, thanks for listening
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So what's the verdict on Albion?
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>>175491782
>>175459229
>>175496150
im going to marry booted marcella
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>>175497358
Interesting.
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>>175497358
this an oldass copypasta. So old that I even forgot Kunoichi existed in DFO since everyone ditched her after her nerfs.
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>>175497654
It's shit.
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>>175498498
Care to expand upon that?
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>>175498667
It's
S H I T
H
I
T
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How do personal shops work in mabinogi?
Do you have to stay put while you're trying to sell or can you just leave your shop somewhere and go do stuff?
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>>175498667
browser game tier gameplay for at least 90% of the time, you click on a node/resource and wait while a bar fills up, go to the next node and repeat in circles until the first node respawns
sometimes you find a trash mob to whack with your mobile moba tier gameplay

every 12 eons you run into someone else and battle them for a good 1 second, in which case one of you either outnukes the other because of bad gear/too many members jumping in or you ride away with no chance of the opposition catching up
also its unity so everyone has decompiled the game 100 times and made their own "helper" clients
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Have a good day.
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>>175499463
You can leave your pet in your place if I remember correctly.
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>>175499576
Hot damn, that sounds like a mess. How'd they fuck it up so badly? Hasn't it been in development for the past two years with money steadily trickling in during their "early access" period? You'd think they could have improved some of those features if they were so glaringly awful.
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>>175497830
>>175498487
red hot kuno ass
>ft. SD
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>>175492271
>"us"
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>play Wakfu
>finish battle
>hey, look at all this exp you didn't get because you didn't pay us
>it's like 5x more
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>>175503902
And now you know why everyone quit.

I mean, nobody played after the beta because /v/ fucked the NA server so bad they had to wipe it which they never planned to, but when f2p started and people came back, they left again right away cause of that shit.
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Whats the difference between RO classic and renewal? Is it those weird classes like tykwondo an gunslinger, or something to do with payon and morroc changing maps?
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>>175499463
Inorder to sell stuff in mabinogi, you gotta buy a license from any bank npc in whatever town you are planing to in sell and can only sell there. You also need an item bag, preferably the 8x6 one, from one of the general shops. You then place all the stuff you're trying to sell in that bag and use the license to prepair your shop, like naming and right clicking on your items to set the price. When setting the price do note that selling a stack of items(ex. 10, 10, 5), you are selling them all for that price so you'll have to divide them if you want to sell them individually. Once your shop is up you can't move too far away from it but you can use a pet or buy another item called a Brownie sold by the same bank npc where you get your license from for like 3k and they will watch over your shop while you are away for 24 hours(I think they even continue to sell until you log out if the itemer ran out), using pets don't decrease their pet timers so they are cheaper to use but you can summon any other pets. Either way, you still need to be online to continue selling stuff though.

Once your stuff sells you can close your shop and take your license to the bank npc and deposite your license like an item and you'll then get your gold in your bank and your license then becomes unusable. If your stuff didn't sell after you close your shop, you can keep using that same license until something sells. Another note is that different towns have different limits on how much gold your license can hold and sells tax and such, so you have to check which town is the best place to sell your stuff.

tl;dr It's all bullshit
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>>175497358
This will never get stale
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>>175505453
keknebbal has super saiyans and classic has actually balanced classes
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>>175500392
Nigga, none of these indie devs care about the game once the "early acess" bullshit money start rolling in
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>>175507196
That...Damn, that's true isn't it? The only one that comes to mind right away for not fucking over their fans after they got money would be Grinding Gear Games with Path of Exile.
That can't be right, though. There has to be more. It's not like every indie dev decides to slack off as soon as money rolls in.
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>>175491782
stalk fmages
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>>175506715
>classic has actually balanced classes
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>>175505453
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Who else got a key for Secret World Legends beta?
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>>175509464
>>>pre-re
>most monsters you want to farm are things you kill in one-shot

what a fucking lie

also it lists creators as supreme which is true but says BS are shit? CT WS are great

>no reason to party

EXP and MVP and bigger dungeons
I can agree with BG is shit though, hate that trash
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>>175509898
>CT WS are great
Great at what exactly?
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>>175510675
MVP, PVP, WOE, it's better than Bash for VIT checking.
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>>175511120
>Bash
ill bash u fookin ead in m8
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>>175494756
Just recently found 1mil plat hammers in Dun with the same issue, was curious why it's not sold out until I saw exactly this same issue
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>>175512285
wow
rude
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>>175505453
Renewal completely changed the game's mechanics for something drastically worse. They also added more WoW-like game mechanics. The classes they added are horribly designed, with each class playing almost exactly like the next and built in such a way that you just end up ignoring your previous 70 levels of class abilities because they are now pointless. They completely ruined the way the game is played and replaced it with a sad mockery. It was so shit that Japanese RO completely remade the game with their own version of renewal instead of using the official renewal trash.
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Daily reminder that Albion Online is the superior sandbox mmorpg at this moment
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did /dfog/ really die too?
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>>175512981
It died a long time ago.
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>>175512981
it kept constantly dying overnight last week so mikoposter just stopped making threads
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>>175512981
It lives on in our hearts or something like that.
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>>175512981
isnt everything pretty much dead?
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>tfw no jro based private server
and you wonder why ro is dead here
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>>175513094
I love Mikoposter! He's the bee's knees!
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>>175513243
i wish i was dead
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>>175513347
just because something moves doesnt make it alive
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>>175513347
same
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>>175513347
At least you're not bugbug. Be thankful.
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>>175509898
its a joke image
both pre-re and re have their cons and pros

also yes most monsters you kill for profit (at least on private servers) are shit you can 1shot with mammonite or whatever the fuck explody skill you're interested in suing
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this general is the most depressing one i have ever visited
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>>175513347
Same.
But I keep going, because I think that it might get better.
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>>175513550
Don't you mean ele?
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>>175514069
it won't
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fuck this general

mmog was a mistake
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>>175515280
living is a mistake
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time for all of us to play something together
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>>175513347
>tfw no fmage gf

because they don't exist
;-;
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>>175515551
I don't think I've ever seen more than 5 people in this general play something for more than 2 weeks together
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will it get better?
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>>175516541
>will it get better?
better than last year
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PLAY ELLINIA!
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>>175517059
After the wipe.
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>>175512981
The whole 2nd Anniversary fiasco literally killed /dfog/. I haven't seen /dfog/'s posting count lower this much ever since the initial launch of OV in DFOG made 80% of the casual shitters quit.
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>>175517059
Server for autists
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>>175516541
Do some volunteer work in your community. That way, even if it doesn't get any better for you, you'll be able to keep going with the knowledge that you made someone else's life just a little bit better. That you managed to cut down on the collective suffering just a little bit. And who knows, maybe those people will do something to make another persons year a little better. So on and so forth. It's unlikely, and it's a bit childish to think so, but it is what's kept me going for years now. Maybe one day that chain will reach you, anon.
I hope things get better. Keep on keeping on.
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>>175517401
fpriest will save dfog...
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>>175517568
Or, be an organ donor and kill yourself.
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PLAY SPIRIT LUNIA WITH ME!
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>>175517401
mmos are for autists though why even be here if youre not one
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>>175517568
>>175517584
>quote
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>>175517650
It's always good to have a fallback option.
;_;
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>>175517734
Kys my man
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When will the wipe be for ellinia
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>>175518640
I heard it was in 4 months.
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>>175518640
Tomorrow.
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is Wakfu an ERPfest
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>>175518828
I hardly see anyone ERPing in Wakfu. They probably don't do it in public and keep it in guild or private chat.
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Is the moebros on Rise of Midgard an open 4chan guild or some private clique?

They seem to be pretty pvm active
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>>175513338
I love Mikoposter too. She's literally my Goddess!
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>>175507916
Its especially true for albion, after beta 1 with its great success they decided to move the pvpers to a whole seperate continent called the outlands while the pvers have free reign on the royal island and access to all but tier 8 resources. Then they nerfed ganking in multiple ways including a reputatuion system that banishes you from the royal island if you kill more than 3 good boys a day for a week, new op mounts and gatherer sets making you all but ungankable, made instanced dungeons up to tier 6 so you dont have to grind in the open world, and an eve online local counter that tells you if there are any pvpers in the current map so you can just leave before they find you.

Albion LITTERALLY sold out to the casual crowd, if you arent in a zerg pvp guild you will be getting minimal, gimped pvp in the open world where you constantly have to monitor how many people you kill, and if your in a zerg guild you will be nothing more than a gathering and tax slave to feed your top 1% metaclub gvg team
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>>175521486
>She's literally my Goddess!
heresy
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>>175521810
>not liking girl posters
omg (lol)
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>>175521919
>/dfog/
>girls

there's only Tessa...
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>>175521919
>mikoweebs
>girlposters

mentally ill trannies don't count as girls
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>>175491782
>Ashes of Creation:
>http://www.ashesofcreation.com
This looks sort of neat. Kikestarter very soon. Not seeing a lot of info on their site. Worth getting excited for?

Anyways, came here to ask you folks what you thought about Chronicles of Elyria. Seems pretty sweet, even if the core aging and dying mechanics are jarring. /v/ said it was a scam but what do they know?
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>>175524558
I was interested until they put the kickstarter up and started selling positions of power and in game perks for large amounts of money. Never going to support that shit and it will never be a good game following that model.

As for Ashes I'm interested to see what the kickstarter things will be tomorrow, but even then i doubt it will ever make it to an actual finished product just like every other MMO like it. First testing won't be until next year if you care.
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>>175524558
>Worth getting excited for?
>excited
>for a soon to come TM MMO
maybe if you're braindead
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>>175515887
>>175515551
ASTA online
we wait u
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>>175525195
Honestly, it is pay to win but in the gentlest possible way. The only things that will last through the first life are the titles and that requires a lot of player committment and skill to hang on to. Somebody has to start as King anyways. Wouldn't make a lot of sense for everyone to be a penniless serf at some random point in history for no apparent reason. May as well use it to suck some money out of idiots.
I think what AoC puts on their KS and at what price points will be very telling.
>next year
I've been looking for a new MMO for over a decade now so that's fine.

>>175525527
I choose to believe.
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>>175517584
I want to figuratively smash that Miko with the force of a thousand exploding stars.
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someone leech me in ellinia please
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>>175526537
I want to fap on my mistress' sexy back...
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>>175526480
>I think what AoC puts on their KS and at what price points will be very telling.
Pretty much what i'm waiting for, AoC is the only thing i'm looking at right now, and only because it is the only one that hasn't made a retarded move i won't support or already closed down because of lack of money yet like every other MMO.

Like i said though, i really doubt it will make it to a finished product either way, the eternal MMO problem remains, the only ones with enough money are not interested in making a good game. And the only ones that want to make a good game don't have any where near the amount of money required to see it through.
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>>175491782
Any of you guys into Star Trek Online or?
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>>175528439
Looks like art for a browser game.
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>>175528439
>those Perfect World Entertainment consumer info leaks
lel no sankyuu. People had their IPs and addresses released publicly, and had usernames and emails stored in plain text format. You couldn't pay me to play their games.
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>>175529190
What? Did that really happen?
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>>175491782
>42 posters
We should all start playing an mmo together we could be unstoppable
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>>175529894
it will just die
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JUST 5 MORE DAYS
WHOS READY FOR /DARKFALL/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqLgDZtCsD0
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>>175529894
if you can find an mmo, i'll play.
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>>175526428
How many? Which faction?
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>>175529894
Maybe. But the game has to be good.
>>175530007
Everything will die sooner or later don't mean we can't have fun.
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>>175529894
>42 posters
>even at /dfog/'s worst, we could hit around 80 posters

suffering
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>>175530797
>/dfog/
>80 posters
And how many of those people only spout memes? No one actually played or even discussed the game.
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>>175530797
It's not like /dfog/ even played together anyways.
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>>175530797
at 100 posts into the thread? no
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>>175530797
We get 100+ posters each thread now.
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First time to the general. Just here for suggestions.
>inb4 "we get this every thread"

I'm looking for an MMO to sink my teeth in. Just something cheap/free that I can play idly to kill time and make me ignore my depression. Any ideas?
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>>175531529
Runescape is pretty casual and relaxing and can get intense if you want to do raids and high level bosses.

Plus it's free. Subscriptions can be bought with in game gold now.
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>>175530936
the occasional kdnf video and 'insider info' posts were worth it

touhou and nep posters needed to go, though
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>>175531529
Wakfu or Mabinogi if you like grinding life skills.
Tera if you like daily raid simulators.
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>>175531529
Try one of the mmoerp games and their generals?
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>>175531529
Tera, mabinogi, or LaTale.
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>>175531529
Wurm

H&H

you need to pick a game where you dont just solo everything so we can be a comfy group
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>>175529894
I'll grind for you if you tell me I'm important and you need me.
Too bad there's no games.
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>>175531737
LaTale is shit though. I really wish they make the movement more fluid, like MapleStory.
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>>175531617
>Subscriptions can be bought with in game gold now.
Really? That's nice.

>>175531685
>>175531737
Tera seems...interesting. I keep hearing it has nice combat, and has an active community.
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>>175532034
Tera is full of pedophiles so I would stay away from the community.
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>>175532164
So is 4chan, and here you are.
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>>175532242
I hate fucking kids
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>>175532034
It's alright but never read terag other than the OP.
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>>175532164
DO NOT BULLY http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/im-pedophile-not-monster
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So we were just joking about playing together? Yeah, me too. Haha.
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let's play some game
that isn't mabinogi
or latale
or fagfu
or a glorified decade old grindfest private server
or shitterstory
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>>175532842
Want to play Haven and Hearth with me? We can start our own community and stuff.
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>>175532164
>pedophiles
It's an MMO. With a loli race. What did you expect?
>>175532397
I figured.


I guess Tera it is. Thanks dudes. You're pretty chill.
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is this how you win at MMOs
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>>175532902
ill do it anon i have no clue how to play though
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>>175532902
not that guy but i would love to do this
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>>175532902
I don't really play games. Can I play with you guys too?
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>>175532902
That game was kinda neat when I saw it on /jp/. Of course, I didn't use a seed and I was gonna have to walk my way to their village. Then I heard the russians raped everyone there, so I quit
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>>175533293
>loosely based on Germanic folklore
>raped by Russians
Such realism!
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>>175533293
The game looks like utter shit nowadays, they went from the cutesy 2D to 3D and lost a bunch of features/pooped on the combat system.
It's still pretty okay though.
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>>175532842
p s o 2
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>>175532842
What's wrong with mabinogi or LaTale ?!
>>175533007
Np. Also you may want to ask for a buddy up code. It gives ya good stuff.
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>>175533214
You should fit in here perfectly. We mostly just complain about games.
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Decide to log into my old H&H account. Last time I played was 2011. Where did the time go?
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>Every interesting game has either some kind of glaring flaw that makes it unsustainable for long term play or isn't out yet (and most likely will disappoint)
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>>175533581
why did I forget about that game?

reinstalling


>>175532902
I don't enjoy being raped and seeing my hardwork pillaged by ruskis
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>>175534192
I tried to settle for a game despite its flaws to play with friends (Warframe).
Big mistake.
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>>175534356
Warframe is alright in short bursts. Fun to run, jump, sneak around for a bit.
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>>175534638
this is true
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>>175534356
My biggest problem with Warframe is the archaic as fuck trade system, but having an auction house or even a personal shop system that doesn't require you to be logged in and paying attention to the client to accept trades would cut too much into their revenue flow so nothing's changing.

Shame because I really like the gameplay of Warframe, I could even tolerate the timegating and grind but it's just too much.
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>>175534638
It suffers from done one, done 'em all syndrome. You can only enjoy sprinting/sneaking/smashing through the same 30 rooms so many times.
Also my favorite frame was Valkyr so there was the issue of being hot garbage.
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i miss gunbound
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what is this "Infinity" patch that people keep talking about on DFO? what's special about it?
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I wish there was an mmo out that is fun to play and i could sink my time into
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>>175536146
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so is that H&H group going anywhere or was it just a meme?
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>>175536786
I >>175533214 still want to play but I'm garbage so just the two of us would be like you playing with yourself.
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>>175536786
i'm still wanting to
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>>175535731
It's a patch that includes a ton of huge balance changes for almost every class including some significant skill revamps. It also makes OV even easier to run and makes Ancient/Requiem easier to run as well.
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>>175536786
It's sleep time for me. I'll check it out tomorrow. Which is another thing. Time zones kinda makes it hard for /mmog/ as a whole to play together, doesn't it?
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>tfw flying enemies that actually fall down when stunned instead of idling in place
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>>175538674
Game?
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>>175538841
LOTRO
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post more bug bug
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Is there a single MMO worth playing now?
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>>175542149
No. There aren't any upcoming ones, either.
;_;

MMOs are only fun when played with other people. It's the playing with other people that's worth playing, not the game itself.
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>>175542498
>tfw playing one of these dead MMOs trying to get through the ghost town of the regular game to get to the endgame
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>>175491782
>>156591082
im a follower of this but im more in the music, i have uploaded a few here if you wanna listen i guess https://vid.me/AnimeAndGameOSTs

yes vidme because youtube is awful, will upload more soon

if you have something uploaded you can comment or send me a message there or something.
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>>175542498
This, no matter how shit a mmo can be or how populated it is, a good community can make any shitty mmo fun and I've played some shitty ones myself.
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>>175542498
Why don't we all just make a gang and dogpile one of these upcoming games then? I'm sure a bunch of weeaboos, awkward loners, and masturbation addicts would make a fine community. I am being serious here. Take me seriously. We could be #1 somewhere and bring great pride to /vg/.
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>>175543108
warbros was already #1 in warframe till they died
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>>175543501
I know that, I was there. But they wouldn't let me play with them because I didn't play by their stupid rules. They took No Fun Allowed literally. We can still be great and bring glory to /vg/ in some MMO that isn't dead.
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>>175543108
It'd be nice but /mmog/ seems to be more about wallowing. Everyone has the dead game they're already grinding in, in other words. I'd be down for gangbanging another piece of meat but I don't know if you'd get a whole guild out of it. What would you suggest if you were to try?
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>>175539762
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>>175543108
The only thing is finding a game and like the other anon said yeah, I've played countless shitty mmos and yeah, the communities did make them fun and we could have that same effect on a game but if that was the only thing we wanted wouldn't we had already flocked to a shitty mmo and made it "fun"?

I am open to play anything if you guys want to play something though.
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>>175544048
>>175544195
I believe we could rally together. I'd personally suggest something spicy and new because conquering a dead game many of us have played already is pretty weak. While most of us have something we're clinging to we wouldn't be here if we didn't want something better. As for a specific title... well this is where it all falls apart, I guess. If I had something I'd be shilling it. I'm optimistic about a lot of upcoming stuff but it's all very far out.
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>>175544573
You're awful at this.
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>>175544573
>>175544693
I doubt anyone in this entire general could present a title.
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>>175544817
Someone did. >>175532902 People expressed interest. Bashing started. Anime girls and wallowing followed. It was like the entire lifespan of an MMO at 1000x speed.
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>>175542498
That's wrong, you are a retard. Friends will make any game fun but it will not make it a good game, when the game's faults start becoming more apparent any fun you are having will soon be over.
Most mmos suck because of the retarded practices of the developers and the greed of their publishers and not even a million friends will make it fun.
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>>175543108
we tried that with Revelation and it failed hard.
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>>175544817
World of Warcraft
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>only mmo that has a card class is FFXIV
>shit mmo
>it's a healer class

Lost Ark when?
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>>175545056
he went to bed, im eager to try tomorrow
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i sure hope peria chronicles is funwhen it releases in 2027
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>>175545321
Endless Online was very fun (to me) simply because of the community and the game wasn't even ever finished, I think it's possible.
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>>175492612
Is it free?
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>>175545737
I wouldn't count on it considering the gameplay that has been shown. Looks like utter garbage desu.
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>>175545507
>FFXIV
>>it's a healer class

FFXIV Only has DPS classes anon, you must be thinking of a different game
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>>175545815
I just want to make a cute girl in an actual sandbox mmo without dealing with 1998 tier textures like Mabinogi desu
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SOMEONE BE MY BUFFSLUT IN ELLINIA
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>>175545815
>combat is summoning pets to fight for you

W H Y
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>>175546614
>wow look at all these animey grafix!!!
>sandbox elements!!!
>ALSO HERE WE GO COMBAT IS JUST A GLORIFIED CARDGAME
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I don't know anything about maplestory. If I wanted to be a healslut/buffslut in reboot, what should I roll?
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>>175546614
>>175546851
hey everyone wanted a modern mabinogi :))
now you get to experience the joy of constantly spawning and despawning pets to AoE damage up the whazoo in your new mabinogi
>>175546882
You should roll in the garbage can
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>>175546948
You sound hurt.
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Alright, here we go again
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>>175491782
I need a buddy code for TERA.
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Sharan
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>>175548261
tera has a general you know
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>>175546882
Kanna is pretty much the only good support in Reboot. They can't heal but everyone wants them for the damage buff.
Or just roll a Bishop.
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>>175548743
i will use /terag/ as last resort, i want a buddyup code from here if possibl.e
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>>175548985
FUCK YOU
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>>175549248
no fuck you leather head
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Post more bug
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>log in to dfo
>check demon challenge prices
>47k each on a raid day
>log out

what a joke of a game
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>>175515887
Our guild has been up for 2 weeks now and we're still alive!
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>log in to dfo
>start crying
>log off
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>>175546202
Retard.
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>>175549849
No reason to lash out anon, fact is a fact, Tanks are in DPS stance 99% of the time and Healers are in DPS stance 80% of the time, everyone's role in endgame content is literally DPS. It's one of the many reasons i hate the game, but it's what people play and i can't get them to play anything else so.
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>>175549743
Define "alive"
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>xiv
Please refrain from discussing about that aborted baby of a mmo here, thank you.
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>>175550051
During our peak we have up to 9 members on at a time.
On Average we usually have 4-6 people on.
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>>175550108
This sounds lovely cozy
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In what mmo am I most likely to have my dick virtually sucked?
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>>175539081
Is it fun for free players?
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>>175550445
Isn't it a one-time buy?
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>>175550470
no lotro has a bunch of microtransactions to get it's content, like DDO.
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>>175550404
ffxiv
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>>175550404
In this game

*sucks*
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Any f2p game with Diablo/PoE gameplay?
I'd play PoE but it runs like shit.
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>>175551014
Can you be an elin?
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>>175551202
sigh

*transforms into an elin* don't mind my true form
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>>175551170
nothing
I think you can play poe on minecraft graphics though
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>>175551436
>play poe on minecraft graphics though
You mean going to the config .txt file and changing it there? Yeah, I tried that, still lags a lot.
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>>175551502
Worst part is if you use dx11 version it runs smoothly but crashes every hour or so
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ASTA online better be good for a few days or else
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>>175551795
>a few days
Now now, let's be realistic. Maybe a few hours.
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>>175551795
I played the beta before, it was pretty shitty. Literally a chink WoW clone, not even just saying that. I doubt they changed much.
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>>175551795
>>175551836
I quit in 30 minutes.
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>>175551502
sounds like you need to upgrade your cpu
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>>175548145
What mobage is this
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>>175552232
Asta
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Please post
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I wont, because I never get replies.
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>>175553792
>>175553792
>>175553792

Please take these (You)s.
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Nova RO
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>>175553970
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>>175518946
Shut the fuck up anumati
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>>175551953
Gonna try for myself, but Im not optimistic...
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>>175555180
I knew it was a wow clone going in, but I really just can't do an mmo with tab target style combat after all.
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Cheer up /mmog/, one day the mmo of your dreams will come out
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>>175556102
not possible, my dream MMO would run like shit until 2030 or so
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>>175525195
>>175524558

Made a 4Chan referral for anyone interested in signing up for Ashes of Creation.

>https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/4Chan/
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>>175559131
>capital c
This triggers me.
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>>175521804
>sold out to the casual crowd
how else would they make profits?
and actually beta is already
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How are wind archers on ms reboot? Are they a decent first character? I like to go fast and I heard they do just that.
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>>175561691
seems to be better than most of chink ports we are dealing with
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>>175561747
If you want fast, you'll be better served with a mercedes in the archer group, or a thunder breaker/striker, cause they're lightning pirates who use their fists.

Or maybe dual blades, they chain together lots of attacks much like mercedes.

You're gonna make a mercedes anyway for their link skill if you play longer than a month, so I would say start with them then make a wind archer after you get your mercedes to 120 for it's link.
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>>175561747
It doesn't really matter what your first character is since you'll be dropping it anyways at ~150 to make new characters.
But if you don't want to get the character bonuses, then no, they're not that good.
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>>175561691
they were already making profits but they decided they needed more and alienated their original audience
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>>175561808
>>175561802
Thanks guys. Mercedes it is.
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>>175562567
I'm so sorry.
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>>175562765
mercedes isn't THAT bad. It's only him getting it to 120 anyway, which is like a day, maybe two, before he can make something else that catches his eye.
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>>175562845
>>175562567
Oh and, it's not necessarily "fast" but if you want "8 gorillion lines flooding the whole screen" kinda thing, my personal recommendation is battlemage (for obvious reasons, pic related), but phantom is an excellent choice. They're fairly powerful, and can steal skills from adventurer classes, and have lots of high line hitting skills of their own.
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>>175562845
I take it getting 120 for the link doesn't take much time? Should I make that my goal for the first few weeks, getting all the good links then going back to play the class I enjoyed the most to level cap?
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>>175563894
I would say make a mercedes, a demon avenger, and a luminous. They're by far the most important link skills. Then decide on a main. Work on that, and whenever you get bored, make another link char. Like a kanna, or a xenon, etc.

And yeah, definitely. Set reasonable short term goals for yourself. Week one, your goal should absolutely be get your first char to 120, if you follow the leveling guide, you should be able to hit it in about 15 hours accounting for fumbling around because of not knowing how to do shit.

Also stat allocation on every class but xenon can safely be done automatically, and skill point allocation just about always leads to every skill being maxed. General priority is passive>buff>utility>attack skills though, so level up your passives first.
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>>175564503
You rock, anon. Thanks.
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>>175536786
Never played the game but I'm interested in joining.
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>>175537085
make sure you have some step by step instructions on how to meet up with the rest of the group for people who arent able to make it to the first embark
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>>175563894
Getting to 120 takes like 2-3 days.
150 takes a week.
And yeah if you don't know what class you want to main I would get all the good links first. That should give you a variety of classes to choose from.
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>>175562958
BM is good if you have fast internet with no lag. They're bottom of the DPS chart without telecast.
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>>175517331
I quit because of Otherverse too cause I didn't like the shitty gimmicks. It also made me realize I had no friends to play the game with.
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>>175566109
That was one of the reason I quit too. But it was mainly because Hell mode spawns freeze my game for a few seconds. And that's usually enough to kill me, which was super annoying and made me waste my Demon Invite.

If OV was the only reason you quit then you could go back since they made it easier to solo now.
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>>175562958
Default damage skin best damage skin
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>>175550445
the payment model is kind of a bunch of bullshit sadly, it's a game I'd love to recommend but unless you want to grind turbine points or pay cash money it's lame
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>>175562368
no they didn't
and most likely they've been looking for investors to keep development running
so they must keep their ROI high or they will rapidly be out of business
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>>175559131
And why should I give you money?
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Is Vindictus any good?
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>>175572502
Yes
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>>175572502
No
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>>175572502
Maybe
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>>175572982
>>175573124
Epic meme, friend. Could you please elaborate why its good and or not?
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>>175573370
Yes
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>>175573370
I don't know.
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>>175573370
Fast paced action combat, you can throw dragons, Delia is very sexy and cute
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>>175573579
I just looked at the Wiki, are there no real classes? All i can find are 9 different Characters. Are they the Classes of this game?
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Jesus christ, Mirror Arad is a fucking chore. Can't believe people do this 10 times on multiple characters on a daily basis.
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>>175573579
Isnt the game dead tho
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>>175573715
They're the characters, which are the classes I suppose, yes.
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>>175573715
>>175575587
Comparing characters to traditional classes would be: dps, dps, dps, dps, dps, dps and dps.
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>>175574232
Too long and too much work. I only do it on 2 characters at the most
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>>175575223
Isn't that why we're here? To play ded mmos?
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>>175577442
No, we're only here to complain and wallow in nostalgia.

No gaming allowed.
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>>175577442
No way, fag.
I just complain that MMOs are dead and act smug when newfags post upcoming ones with little lights in their eyes. Their smile and optimism will die soon enough.
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>>175577498
>>175577630
Jokes on you two, I jump through MMOs like a mindbroken slut jumps on dicks like in my erodoujins haha
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>>175575223
MMOs are a dying genre anon.
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>>175577910
>dying
They are already dead
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>>175577442
My pain is meaningless and empty. I have no words to describe the suffering the death of this genre has brought me. The only fitting description for the emotion I feel at this moment would just be a noise: a mix between the sound of a cell door creaking closed and the death cries of a mute. So instead of moving on from my NEET squalor I shitpost here and hope better days I don't deserve will be handed to me by a game developer.
>>
when was the last time the west release a big budget MMO?
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Do we have a guild up on asta yet?
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>>175578521
2014, The Elder Scrolls Online.
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why are we still here? just to suffer?
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>>175580295
Yes.
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>>175580295
Misery loves company
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>>175580295
i feel that this is getting asked more frequently
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>>175580295
It’s one of life’s great mysteries isn't it? Why are we here? I mean, are we the product of some cosmic coincidence, or is there really a God watching everything? You know, with a plan for us and stuff. I don’t know, man, but it keeps me up at night.
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>>175581124
Is it God's plan to have shitty MMOs churned out left and right, only to be replaced by mobage?
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>>175581229
Yeah he's kind of a dick.
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>>175580295
I just want my shitty mmo's back. Stuff like Dragonica and Dragons Nest but alive
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>>175581965
MMO's what, anon?
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>>175580295
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I want a lewd MMO
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>>175581229
Can china save us?
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>>175582485
Tera panders to erpers
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>>175582712
God, I hope not.
>>
kickstarter up for AOC
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1791529601/ashes-of-creation-new-mmorpg-by-intrepid-studios

>$750,000 goal
sounds a bit cheap for a mmo but I don't know shit
>>
>>175582809
It's already at 300k so I think tits going to be fine.
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>>175582809
They already have a lot of money.
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>>175583156
Don't they just start this kickstarter today?
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>>175582809
These pledges got me worried.
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>>175583596
Why? It's all game time, cosmetics, and design input shit.
I want to see these additional character customization options, they're all I'm interested in.
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>>175582809
750k for a mmo this ambitious? Not gonna happen.
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desu i've never come across a game with better events than ms

prove me wrong
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>>175583835
Yeah I thought the same. I ain't backing shit since Albion disappointed me I want to sell my legendary account but I can't change the account e-mail
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>>175582809
>Monster tokens are an item that enables players to play as monsters within our event system. These range from playing with your friends as a horde of zombies all the way to a massive dragon yourself!
Well I'm deleting my account. These people are clearly retarded.

>>175583835
>>175583246
>We’ve got private backing that will allow us to produce a core viable product.
Read, niggas.
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>>175583156
>>175584157
Why are they crowdfunding if they're funded?
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>>175585290
Because they could always use more money.
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>>175585290
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>>175585375
That and they will have an army of people who invested money in the game that will be ready to shill it at every occasion.

It seems to happen with every crowdfunded project
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>falling for the kickstarter jew

name 1 kickstarter mmo thats come out and wasnt shit
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>>175582809
>Kickstarter MMO

This will surely end well
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>>175586502
Star Citizen
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>>175585290
more money and it generates attention
>>
mmo is dead
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>>175555459
ASTA is an oldschool/classic mmo and it does it really well. It's pretty much vanilla WoW. Which isn't bad at all.

But yes it's nothing new.
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>>175585290
>Why would people want more money when they already have some money?
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>>175587503
ur ded kiddo
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>>175587943
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>>175587034
star citizen is still in development anon
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>>175588805
>implying they're even developing it
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>>175582809
As someone who pledged $125

>I'm selling my revelation online account which I spent £10 on for $700. This more than gives me disposable income
>The kickstarter runs for a month during which time they are streaming. If it truly looks dogshit I can always cancel my payment.
>They already have a developed product. I have questions about the game's stability due to its graphics, but the concept looks good and they have a working gameworld, so that's a good start.
>While I agree it sounds too good to be true, this mmo ticks all my boxes for "perfect mmo." I'm willing to give it a shot.
>I'm a competitive player and I'm always in the top 10 pvp/pve of any mmo I play. So for me, alpha access is valuable as fuck to get as much info on the game as possible.
>This game blends the economy of eve, open world of archeage, and has aspects of other mmos I've really liked. All of which are good signs.
>The devs have clearly stated they designed this game to counter the p2w trend in mmos, so if they somehow DO go p2w, pretty much everyone will turn on them. Good incentive not to go p2w. I'm fine with cosmetic cash shops.
>If I play the alpha and I still think the game is going to be shit, I can always sell my limited edition kickstarter access to somebody else and get back most if not all of my money depending on how hype the game is.
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>>175589513
>not knowing how to greentext correctly
Please lurk more, newfriend.
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>>175582809
>We've been working on this for 14 months now!
>shows us nothing but some generic magic particle effects and fantasy outfits they bought off of the Unreal market
>won't reveal the source of their purported private backing
>fuckhuge kickstarter tiers
It's a fucking scam.
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>>175588805
you mean selling fake ships at $100s a pop?
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>>175589557
>been here for over 10 years. I don't have to conform to your newfaggotry ideals of greentexting
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>hyping for some kikestarter MMO this close to E3
We're due for a AAA by now, why bother with this nonsense?
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>>175589781
Clearly fucking not. Do they believe you are convincing? I'm sure your ass gets jealous of the shit that comes out of your mouth. An hero, you filthy fucking shitposter.
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>>175589781
Congratulations, you've been doing it wrong for a decade. Greentexting isn't even le epub 4chan oldfag invention. Your time here means nothing, and is no doubt a lie anyways since you're clearly underage.
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>>175589597
>It's a fucking scam.
welcome to every single crowdfunded MMO
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>>175590059
An 18 year old could have been born late enough not to experience linequoting. He's not underage, you're old.
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>>175589982
>>175590059
If I was a newfag, could I do this?

â–²
â–² â–²
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>>175590280
>>175590059
>>175589781
Why does it matter how long you been on 4chan? At the end of the day you're still a faggot.
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>>175590386
Newfaggotry is correlated with age, and post quality.
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mmog was a mistake
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>>175589513
>>175589557
>>175589781
>>175589982
>>175590059
>>175590214
>>175590280
>>175590386
>>175590571
has this general hit a new low?
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>>175590684
I regret posting that link
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>>175590684
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I think we can all agree that novaro posters are the worst shitposters.
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>>175590684
Newfags who refuse to lurk are a large contribution to the overall quality of the website as a whole, yes.
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>>175590684
No, we're just scraping the bottom of the barrel a little harder.

I wish there were video games to play.

>>175590768
You should at least get paid for your shilling.
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>>175591024
>talking about up and coming MMOs is shilling
You need to go back to /v/.
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Have a good day.
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>>175589881
>AAA
>good gameplay
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>>175590914
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tfw can't go to next zone until I find more tin and get to 30 armorsmithing
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>>175591129
robot anus makes me happy, but what does this have to do with mmos?
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Why hasn't anyone stolen ideas from MMO animes? A lot of the mechanics they have are plausible or even executed in other genres but just don't exist in any real MMO.
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>>175591893
Totally not a wow ripoff.
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>>175592063
This is a depression general cleverly disguised as video games.
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>>175592126
>A lot of the mechanics they have are plausible or even executed in other genres but just don't exist in any real MMO
I dunno, MMOs have adapted the mechanic of being SHIT pretty well.
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>still at tin
AHHHHHHHHHHH
I guess I'll just buy some
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>>175592126
And what ideas do mmo anime have that's so great again? I can only think of 3 and neither of those wow'ed me in terms of gameplay but then again its been forever since I seen those 3.
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>>175592515
irl permadeath
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is it possible to afk farm on ro?
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>>175592461
Fuck
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>>175592515
Not them but I like basically everything about Log Horizon's DATABASE world. Genuinely difficult to get to dungeons with time limited rewards so there's actual pressure and stakes. Having crafting skills be subclasses that also directly affect combat and aren't just a gold sink/generator. Class variety instead of just the boring trinity.
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>>175592605
if you don't want to pick up loot, yes
private servers allow you in some cases to afk farm and get loot at the same time with shit like autocast paladin/lordknight
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>>175592605
You can afk farm and level in Granado Espada, you should join me.

Don't bother its shit
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>>175592919
So.. what old Mabinogi was?
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>>175592461
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>>175592919
>time limited rewards
say goodbye to every single non-meta class/build, and people spamming "LF1m for raid must have 8213719+ gear score" even more than they already are
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>>175593067
Sort of but slightly less garbage core gameplay and also not ded in currentYear.
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>>175593254
This. Nothing is mechanically wrong with MMOs, it's the MMO userbase. I saw a post on reddit that presented it eloquently but the gist of it is min maxxing shitters pushing the RP out of MMORPG ruined everything.
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>>175593482
That's why RP servers exist.
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>>175593482
Quest mindset ruined everything.
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>>175593549
This.
MMORPGs very quickly turn from being a dude in a fantasy world going around helping people and killing the bad guys with cool abilities and techniques to being a dude killing X amount of enemies in one spot and moving on.

Questless mmos where?
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>>175593758
>Questless mmos where?

Like...all the sandbox garbage?
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>>175593543
Those are all ERP servers anon. You're supposed to play for fun, not Excel practice.

>>175593758
Sandbox MMOs. They end up being low on content though. Even the first tabeltop RPGs had quests, quests are good.
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>>175593881
>Even the first tabeltop RPGs had quests, quests are good.
They had quests, not literal chores/second hand tutorials.
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>>175593758
I'm not at all against quests per se, but moderns mmo feels like we're doing chores instead of playing something fun.
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Anybody play Dungeons & Dragons Online? Just downloaded. Thoughts?
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>>175593881
A tabletop quest is gathering a party and going off into the world for a day or more for adventure. Not decimating the local population of goblins.
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>>175593758
I said this in the last thread(or the one before that). AI will fix everything wrong with mmo's.
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do people actually enjoy tedious quests and leveling?
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>>175593957
Then your problem is with mindless fetch quests specifically?
Also many did have literal chores, but they had the potential to be fun because there are no mechanical limitations to imagination with a good DM.
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>>175593482
>>175593758
>min-maxers
That's just competitiveness and efficiency of human nature at work. Also min-maxing became a thing due to restrictions. Inability to take every single talent in a skill tree, inability to cram 10 of every class into a raid, inability to dps down a boss before enrage timer, etc. Early MMO design pretty much forced people to min-max in order to complete content.
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>>175594129
So you think we need an MMO where anyone can do anything limited only by imagination? Make the engine and you'll be a god of a microcosm. Realistic goals senpai.
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>>175594114
Only if there's some decent rewards at the end of it.

New skill every few levels is the only thing that keeps me going in most games.
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>>175594114
I prefer plain old korean style grinding to do quests.
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>>175594129
No, my major issue is having to go back and forth to report in shitty quests that are the only way of actually progressing.
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>>175594535
So if instead of turning the quest in, the quest completes by itself after you kill 10 boars, you're ok with it?
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I reckon this will be the last zone I quest in before defaulting to IAs.
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>>175594667
>put on hype music
>grind enemies
It is comfy.
>walk to loredawussadon
>talk to prince skinnywilly
>walk to mount jamalska
>kill 30 black boars
>walk back to loredawussadon
>give 30 black boar teeeth to prince skinnywilly
>YOU'RE AN HERO IS YOU!
Worst shit ever.
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>>175592985
Why did this game has to be such a shitty grindfest? Couldn't they have been more creative than putting NPC there giving quests to kill x number of y.

The questline is a fucking joke. The only thing I remember about it is that you once had to make chocolate tofu for that one fatass.

So much potential wasted.

Also, why the fuck Catherine INT?
Just use the marionette lmao
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>>175594667
Not him but I could see something like that working as a mix of old and new styles.

>no quests, just go out and do your thing
>join adventurers guild
>extra payout for every X monster kills
>areas beling to certain factions, get a bonus from them for every X enemies you kill on their lands
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>>175594667
>If you save our city nothing meaningful will happen but we will give you these boots that are worse than what you already have, experiences points, and some gold.
At lwast I expect nothing meaningful to happen when I kill boars.
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>>175594114
Sometimes you just wanna turn you brain off and do some mindless tasks from time to time, especially after a long day of school or work. I had a habit of grinding a lot in single player games when I was a kid, even in game that didn't need grinding. It got to the point where I had a few of my friends at school give me their game or save files and level their characters up just so they could catch up to me. I think grinding is just one of those things you grow into to the point where you don't mind but today's mmo's make grinding too tedious even for me.
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>>175595516
That's a symptom of autism. Not 4chan meme autism, real autism. You are very likely neuroatypical.
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>>175595140
This af.
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>>175595272
That sounds a lot like Elite Dangerous and the powerplay system.
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>>175595219
At least that game had some really nice music.
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>>175595958
It does, and that was horrible. This is probably exactly hownit was pitched because it doesn't sound half bad.
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Asta really captures that vanilla wow feeling of having to open your mail one at a time to get your stuff from auctions
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>>175595516
but how is that different than going to a quest hub, picking up all the quests, go grind the mobs you were going to grind anyway, then turning those quests in after they're done? Then going to a new hub further up the road and repeat?
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How are y'all playing ASTA? I played a while ago and eventually dropped it but I may as well fuck with it again. However
>go to website
>Service Closure Announcement etc
okay
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>>175596503
Name one game that has good quest XP and good grinding XP as well, not to mention actually lets you progress efficiently without having to run across some straight line of garbage quests
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>>175596670
It's on steam now.
If you're joining in, roll on Ora.

Also, anyone who's playing add DPS to friends, let's see if we can get a guild started or something.
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>>175596465
I unironically have clunky UI nostalgia. It kept the weak of will away.
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Speaking of asta, anyone doing the fishing daily? It says to fish up salmon in sulkyung but I've been here for like an hour and so far, in about 100 total fish caught, not counting boots, 0 salmon.
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>40 man raid
>everything lags so hard I die before even seeing the spell effects

Yep, asta got the vanilla feeling down perfectly.
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>>175553792
And this (You) too
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So why did everyone flip a shit over the AoC Kickstarter? Doesn't seem like my cup of tea because of the classes but the backer rewards seem fair enough.
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>>175582809
>there is one backer pledging over $10000

Is this real?
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>>175596893
Tera, people used to grind BAMs all the way to max level
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>>175599758
Probably. Someone gave Chronicles of Elyria 25k USD.
Money does not make you smart.
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>>175599795
hence the word HAS instead of HAD
but yes, that's what I did, I never even touched the quests after getting to the first BAM after tutorial
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What's a naisu MMO where I can be just a simple healer doing my work?

no healslut edition
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>>175595219
The game didn't really put much efford into the story until Viron and the newer upc's/npc's came out and I'll admit it was kind of interesting after that. The quests however is what killed it though. Playing the private server from the start just to realize this game had WAY too many quests, what makes this worse is the game isn't open world so you're going to be seeing loading screens non stop and the quest are nothing but backtracking to the same npc.

>"Hey, go ask that guy if he can help me with a project"
>*travel through several different maps later*
>That Guy:"No I don't wanna help"
>*travel back through several different maps later to quest giver*
>"He said no huh? Ask him if he'll do it for a favor"
>*travel through several different maps later*
>That Guy:"No"
>*travel back through several different maps later to quest giver*
>"He still won't help? Ask the guy standing next to That Guy if he'd help"
>*travel through several different maps later*
>Guy standing next to That Guy:"No"
>*travel back through several different maps later to quest giver*
>"He won't help either? Ask him if he'll do it for a favor"
>*travel through several different maps later*
>Guy standing next to That Guy:"Sure I'll do it for 300 pieces of leather"
>*commence to farming leather and continue the backtracking simulator*

Almost every quest is like this and sometimes longer(story quest). The game built up way too many quests over the years to where I don't see how any new player could keep going.

>Also, why the fuck Catherine INT?
Wanted to test if she could make a good magical res tank and tank magic damage(I mean they even gave her a expert tanking stance, it seemed possable) but I stop playing due to too many quests to ever find out.
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redpill me on dfo, is it worth the time? I want to play a fun game and I don't mind the grind.

I do hate p2w games tho, so that's a dealbreaker for me.
Can I get cute outfits playing without paying?
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>>175601170
>p2w
>cute outfits
Are you retarded or just stupid?
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>>175601170
Do you want to spend an entire week soloing everything because it's brain-dead easy and nobody bothers partying at that level?

You will look like literal beggars without those pricey cosmetic.
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>>175601379
>he doesn't know you can attack people with cuteness therefore winning any pvp match
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>>175596893
Tree of Savory
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>>175601379
>looking cute is not a form of winning
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>>175594045
overly complex character building, and you have to pay real money for most content(quests, quest lines, adventure areas...etc and you can't get their rewards/gear any other way since they're binding).

I played DDO when it was subscription based, and it was pretty complex back then, being loosely based off of the PnP, but definitely doable.

now they have epic levels(21-30), epic destinies, and you have to rebirth your character 3 times to fully build them.

but the dungeons can be pretty fun as a solo casual player, only mmo I've played where platforming was a major part and there were lots of dungeon hazards/secrets to be found.

tl;dr
fun to scratch the surface(especially if you can disarm traps), any deeper and despair
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>>175600629
All of them? What in particular are you looking for

Wildstar has good healing mechanics but ded
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>>175601379
Pay to win stopped meaning an advantage you could only get by paying to having to spend a single cent ever because penniless NEETs hijacked the term.
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>>175602383
>lots of dungeon hazards/secrets to be found.

That sounds neat.
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>>175602671
Being able to solo most of the "story quests" without needing a 40-man raid.
Preferably still a big community.
Oh, and character customization / creation being more than just "generic dude with black spiky hair"
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>>175600629
Haven't laughed this hard in a while.
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>>175594045
Tries to marry tabletp rules to MMO gameplay and I think they succeeded for awhile, character creation is super flexible and there are some great quests

BUT

Power creep hit this game hard as fuck

Early game gets access to things like free hits for 3w and late has executes for thousands of bonus damage

This makes leveling piss easy (except for elite traps) and endgame a retarded number crunch because you need to be minmaxed to be useful whatsoever
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>>175531617
>Plus it's free. Subscriptions can be bought with in game gold now.

hey, that's nice. I'm actually tempted to play
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>>175603837
What's the last MMO you played, Everquest? All of its bastard offspring allow for what you're asking.


The last game I played where healing seemed most fun and the game wasn't ded was TESO I guess if you haven't tried that.
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>>175600629
I don't get the angry healer or healslut memes. I've always been treated with great respect as a healer. While I apologize profusely for my own mistakes because I am in a high responsibility role I don't hesitate to criticize others if I can offer a way for them to improve upon their performance. Everyone is always very polite to me, even though they'll turn around and chew another DPS a superfluous anus for any criticism, with advice or not. I tend to blame myself more than others blame me for anything. Not once has anyone propositioned ne for internet sex. Although I think I would like it if they did. I've always wanted to try RP but I don't want to hurt anyone else's experience with my lack thereof.
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>>175604836
The last MMO I played was Blade & Souls. Never played Everquest though, so apologise me for being a retard in this kind of topics.
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>>175604925
It depends on the community/MMO you're playing in.

I once got shat on in eden eternal for not healing enough even though I've already maxed out everything I could.

The other times in WoW, I just chillax in the back doing almost nothing and when shit hits the fan, it's usually the tank fucking up or dps attacking too early.
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>>175604925
>I don't get the angry healer or healslut memes.
>is just a healslut with too much social anxiety to be slutty
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>>175605002
Yeah most MMOs are pretty solo friendly now which is why that requirement threw me is all.
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>>175605218
Interesting. I've played many MMOs but WoW was the one where I found the most negativity directed towards me. It was mostly over Blizzard's poor understanding of class balance though, as priests were bottom tier at the time and I'm not a fan of alts.

>>175605345
>wanting to RP makes you a slut
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>>175606230
People don't understand the difference between eRP and straught up cybersex.

If you want to try RP just go for it, the worst thing that could happen is you act retarded for a moment.

Just remember:
>not everyone can read your mind, don't tell people how you feel, tell them how you look
>brevity is the soul of wit, especially in public rp
>you control your characters actions, not theirs
>the only way to win at being a special sue-flake is not to play

Of course depending on who you're playing with some or none of these may apply.
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>>175602846
>Pay to win stopped meaning an advantage you could only get by paying
By stopped you mean from the day 1 it was fucking used? The first game it was adapted on had no fucking advantage on the purchasable items.
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>ASTA at 58%
>gonna make a ranger/similar type of bow user
shieeeet hope I don't drop it quickly again
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>>175608485
You'll realize it's just another generic MMO with nothing new on the table and drop it in a week.
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>>175606210
So, uh, I still dont know what MMO to play since there are fuck-many.
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>>175608958
I know. I've already played it once but I remember little and maybe I'll enjoy playing with /v/.
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>>175582809
> Pledge $1,000 or more
>Leader of Men
>Kickstarter Exclusive - Demonic / Angelic Character racial skin
Why does it all have to be tier stuff? Why can't it just be like a point system backer's market or something?
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>>175602671
tfw no other raiding game will ever replicate medic healing
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>>175608986
NovaRO!
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>>175609112
Stop being a poorfag then.
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>>175609112
>people are paying hundreds and even thousands of dollars for skins they can't even see in a game that isn't even out of alpha
What about this seems like a good idea to you? Explain yourself this instant.
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>>175609764
Except you're wrong.
They're not paying for the skin, they're paying so that the game comes out and the skin is just an extra reward.
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>>175608986
I will start playing Black Desert Online (BDO) on my filthy new spic server... it will release on a couple of weeks! fresh start for everybody
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>>175609918
Except no, fuck you.
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>>175608986
spoiled for choice then

what games are you considering? Post them so we can meme them to death and thin the list
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>>175609112
>1000$ backer reward
>for a racial look
>its angels/demons as well
for what reasoning
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>>175609112
shit, you just reminded me of that jew game and I still have it installed on my computer even though I only played for like 2 hours.
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help me decide my next ro class
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>>175610852
Bard/dancer
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>>175609745
Help me maybe?

>>175609764
I'm willing to spend $200 or whatever to back a game and get stuff in return. It's just saddening when the stuff I want is really really expensive.

>>175610686
Oh no, there's lots of other stuff too, that's just what I want. I like enjerus.

>>175610719
What game?
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>>175611238
Yeah I have a huge enjoyment for demons myself, played Dungeon Defenders for hours upon hours just to unlock the Demoness skin for the Summoner in it.
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>>175611352
Your passion is admirable but debirus are bad. Be a good instead.
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>>175611238
>>
dumb weeb posters
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>>175611856
Weebs should be gassed.
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>>175611856
Why would you say this?
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>finally started ASTA
jesus christ why are all floating names so xboxhuge?
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>>175611765
Oh, Recettear is pretty fun. I didn't finish endless mode though, only got through the first few dungeons before I got tired of waiting for my stupid adventurers to come buy better gear.
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>>175612402
No one fucking cares.
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>>175612465
I care
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>>175611574
I used to have an angel character on champions online, and I had a secondary outfit/costume switch that was a devil. I used the devil one to erp
one day one of the guild member leaders noticed this and threw a bitchfit, 10/10 times
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>>175612465
Rude.
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>>175611352
>a huge enjoyment
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>>175612465
Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. I was just having a conversation, it wasn't supposed to be terribly interesting. They shared their experience with the game so I shared my own.

>>175612635
Demons are top tier sluts. I'm not sure if it's their forbidden nature or that they are in the most literal sense made for sex but it ticks a lot of the right boxes.
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>>175613019
>I was just having a conversation
This is an mmo general. Recettear isn't an mmo so it doesn't belong here. Just like how discussing my popped hemorrhoids doesn't belong here.
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>>175613207
You don't belong here.
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>>175611014
>Bard/dancer
give me an extra option, just in case
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>Ashes of Creation devs are the EQNext devs
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>>175613207
I didn't intentionally start the conversation, it just developed naturally. I'm sorry for off topic posting, I'll try to bundle my replies so it doesn't waste space on its own.
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>>175613495
Fuck that guy

Reccetear was fun but I didn't finish endless mode to any degree either because it really lost something without the sword of damacles business
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>>175613436
Certainly activates my reasoning faculties
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>>175613436
S-Surely they just want a chance to do right by the community.
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>>175613412
ranger
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What level can I do my first dungeon in ASTA?
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>they fell for the asta mem
olol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UQysYDRr-c

ZA WARUDO! TOKI YO TOMARE!
*teleports behind you*
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
Soshite, toki wa ugoki dasu
*player dies*

Where were you when DFO embraced kino?
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>>175616665
fucking gay jojo meme
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>>175582809
>already at 668k
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>>175616665
There is only one good JoJo meme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up82hnnPVHc
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>>175617749
How much of that is yours?
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>>175618346
I only gave $50.
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>>175616665
F. Slayer looks good, but where's F. Priest?
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>>175618346
$0. I don't back games anymore after cube world.
>>175618171
I liked this one.
https://youtu.be/qbArvIqZzkI
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>>175618479
china doesn't have fpriest yet
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>>175618669
That sucks. I bet she would look totes adorbs.
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>don't want to play dead old games
>don't like the look of anything upcoming
What do?
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>>175619767
Stop playing MMOs ?
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>>175491782
would you berry your dick in this witch?
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>>175619875
But what should I do to take my mind off my crippling depression?
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>>175620116
witches have sold their body to strange spirits
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>>175620136
Read some books or watch some happy anime.
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>>175620116
Too slutty. I prefer cute.
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>>175620264
>sold their body
l-lewd...
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>>175620116
>berry

Anon...
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Recommend me a decent free MMO. I don't care if it's pay to win, as long as I can still have some fun playing it for free. I just need a timekiller.
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>>175620116
I would berry my dick so deep inside of her she might feel it a little bit if she's super tight.
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>>175616665
>not knowing about the actual DIO fight
>>175618479
The F. Priest set is on the Korean page since CDNF doesn't have F. Priest yet.

http://df.nexon.com/df/pg/detective17#at1
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>>175620714
Learn a useful skill instead.
Or masturbate.
Both are much better than F2P MMOs.
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>>175620714
Play NOVARO with us!
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>>175616250
Like 8

But the level 8 dungeons are like a room big, dunno if that changes
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>>175620937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkgtm0uDfGQ
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>install Tree of Savior
>can't get patcher to run
>.dll errors up the ass

wew

Is it even worth trying to get it running?
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tfw finally having some fun with friends
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>>175620937
Nice. I want to pet her pussy.
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reminder to befriend witches by enticing them with candy

witches LOVE candy
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>>175621792
What are some good MMOs with witches?
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>>175622029
>good
>MMOs
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>>175622029
>good
I'm not going to fall for this again. You're just going to call my favorite MMO shit. Not this time, taffer.
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>>175622029
Skyforge.
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>>175622629
I really liked witch in Skyforge, until I realized I had to be in Skyforge to play it. They had some fun DoTs.
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>>175621554
It could be worth it, but damn you have to be extremely lazy to not do it.
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>>175621554
don't bother with tos
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>>175582809
>white humans and black humans are separate races
Hol' up.
What the fuck are they thinking? Do they hope to ride a controversy wave as advertisement?

On a different tone, why does this smell more like generic fantasy than Tolkien? I wasn't aware that was possible.
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>>175625585
redguard scum
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>>175625585
Are you retarded? That's exactly how races work.
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>>175625585
It's been done before. The Bureau of Land Management doesn't play video games so nobody makes a fuss of it.
They have made very few assets of their own and bought the majority of them from nobodies on the Unreal Engine marketplace for dirt cheap.
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>>175625731
>>175626136
I guess.

Also did not know that. That's really weird.

>>175626082
I know that, but the politically correct crowd pretends that we're all identical just with different skin colors.
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>>175626438
They're a small team with a big project. Cutting corners is the result.
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>>175551795
>>175551836
>>175551953
>25 years since the LA riots

sa-i-gu
never forget
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>fucking Nyaa Torrents is killed
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>>175627427
NANI?
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>>175627427
They get attacked like every month.
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>>175627487
>>175627427
owner took it down due to recent judgements in swedish courts
better learn to xdcc
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>>175627741
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>>175627719
Not an attack this time, its the real thing. Taken from /a/

http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&docid=190142&pageIndex=0&doclang=EN&mode=lst&dir=&occ=first&part=1&cid=353907 <-- from 26 apr. 2017

http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&docid=183124&pageIndex=0&doclang=EN&mode=req&dir=&occ=first&part=1 <--- from 2016

>The Court has already held, in that regard, that the provision, on a website, of clickable links to protected works published without any access restrictions on another site, affords users of the first site direct access to those works (judgment of 13 February 2014, Svensson and Others, C‑466/12, EU:C:2014:76, paragraph 18; see also, to that effect, order of 21 October 2014, BestWater International, C‑348/13, EU:C:2014:2315, paragraph 15, and the judgment of 8 September 2016, GS Media, C‑160/15, EU:C:2016:644, paragraph 43).

>Linking to illegal stuff was already illegal since the last year, Nyaa was just surviving over it.

https://twitter.com/HorribleSubs/status/859156149018402816

PIC RELATED with new information regarding the case.

New law in Europe has made the closing of the site real, get informed in this discussion.

Yes, Sukebei is also gone.
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>>175627741
Eh, that doesn't sound very permanent.
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>>175628030
Sounds like the EU needs an armed revo- oh right.
Good luck with that, EUnons.
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>>175628030
yurocucks strike again
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>>175628030
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I just want an anime action combat MMOrpg with alive PvP that isn't run by idiots.

Why is it so hard for this to exist.
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>>175630000
>toohoo poster
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>>175630000
>MMO
>PvP
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>China to force online games with loot boxes publicly announce item probabilities
is this gonna affect any MMOs?
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>>175631530
didnt something similar happen in korea?
courts said that spending money on rng was basically gambling, so companies should have to reveal their % odds (or something like that, i think)
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>>175631530
>China
Do they even make MMO's or better yet, do they even get localized?
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>>175631530
>China being based
Impossible, how can this be?
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>tfw you actually find a game with dumber NPCs than XIV
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>>175632073
China is the future of mmos
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>>175632198
That's a nice ass.
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>>175632198
dat ass tho
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>>175631940
Japan recently had that be put into law with gacha games, I haven't heard anything about korea.
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>>175631940
>>175631530
This already happened in korea, but dfog had their rates of Lost Treasure specifically nerfed for our region as well as the drop rate for keys to open them.

Here are the korean dfo rates http://df.nexon.com/POP/probable_item/

The difference is that their lost treasures have more and better items in them on average, so our regions item of the month rate obtain rate was higher than any other region. About 6 months or so ago the drop rate of keys from dungeons was HEAVILY nerfed as well as the item of the month obtain rate being nerfed (without putting in good non-monthly items to compensate). Of course they never mentioned this on any stream, patch note, or facebook post.

Never trust gooks.
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>>175632198
nice ass slut
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>>175503902
X7
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>>175630463
>I only play games where i grind """"opponents"""" that are designed to lose to me
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>>175633513
MMO PvP is garbage, no exceptions. Go play a real PvP game.
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>>175633603
like what?
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>>175633603
those are some hot opinions, you really convinced me
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>>175633653
Whatever genre suits your desired tactics:mechanical skill ratio. Fighting games, shooting games, stabbing games, ASSFAGGOTS, RTS, DDR, whatever you want. It'll all be better.

>>175633750
If it is not readily apparent to you then you are not worth convincing.
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>>175633828
see
>>175633750
>>
Ok, I'm on NovaRO. Now what?
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>>175633828
Be my gf
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>>175526896
ign>?
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>>175634537
uninstall
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>already burned out
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Fuck me it has been so long since an MMO where crafting has been a real focus and not just a side job came out I'm considering buying into Chronicle of Escamia. Talk me down.
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>guy posts about H&H group
>ill set it up tomorrow
>it was all a meme
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>>175634807
done
thanks anon
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>>175635589
how many good kickstarter mmos have released anon?

They already confirmed they have core funding, would you buy something that doesnt exist yet or may not ever exist?
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>>175635589
She was really mean to that boy. At least they end up together though.
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>>175635626
Every other thread we get talk of a /vg/ guild or clan or orgy and only ever so rarely does anyrhing come of it. When it does half of them vanish before the week ends to go play whatever they were playing before.
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>>175620997
Any recommendations on useful IRL skills? Preferably ones that won't drain my bank at the start? One where I can gain experience from inside my own home would be ideal? The only ones I've spent time grinding so far have been hunting, fishing, and farming. While fun, they haven't really been all that useful aside from the deep freezer full of game and cellar full of canned goods. I'd like to class change over to something a bit more social friendly since I'm headed to the city soon.
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>>175636024
>life skills
>social friendly
Cooking or drink mixing
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>>175636024
New language.
Computer stuff.
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>>175635751
I don't think any have. Not too sure.
Backers can get in 3 months early to set up shops and towns and whatnot. If I want to be a top tier merchant I'll need to get in before main street is built. I know get in to nothing three months early is nothing but it's not like I have any other options in the forseeable future. You know, other than getting a life or whatever.

>>175635823
I fetishize abuse because I feel like I'm inferior to most people and could offer little in return for their affections besides my complete and utter unconditional love despite how poorly they admittedly justly treat me.

>>175636024
They say programming is the new literacy.
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>>175636250
I didn't ask
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>>175636324
Ask about what?
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>>175636479
about your abuse fetish you pervert
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>>175636250
if they are selling a 3 month headstart with no wipe then the game is dead on arrival
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>>175636148
>Cooking
>>175636209
>New language.
>>175636250
>programming
Sounds great, thanks anons. These should keep me busy for a few thousand hours at least. Any recommendations on languages? Should I into moon-runes so I could support other anons with translating their weebshit, or would I be better off with something like spanish to better prepare for future job advancements?
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>>175636683
You in the US? I'd study Spanish.
Canada, study French.
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>>175636908
>letting the wetbacks win
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>>175636683
Spanish is the easiest language for people already fluent in english to learn. Unless you're forced by a job, friend, or romantic partner it's more efficient to learn the language of a culture you're interested in. Learning a language when you have no interest in their culture will sap your motivation in weeks.
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>>175636654
Well it's sort of necessary because the players are basically making the towns for them and many character archetypes can't survive without towns. It's also somewhat balanced because your character ages during this time and will die earlier as a result.

>>175636683
Java is versatile and as a single programming language will get you further than any other. It is poorly suited for most tasks but can still do them easily enough. /g/ can help more, read the sticky.
This image is for you. I do not know if it is true or not but I believe it.
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>>175635589
Chronicle of Escamia
>google chronicle of escamia
>no returns
??
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>>175637992
Chronicles of Elyria.
It has a reputation for being a scam for some reason.
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>>175632885
Unique Experienceâ„¢
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>>175637307
they could just do the eq next rip thing where the people make the shit and you steal it and wipe


they are making excuses to sell 3 months headstart to whales, just imagine how fucked up any pvp game like archeage or albion would be with a 3 month headstart
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>saved up a lot of money
>see equip on sale but you're still 5m short
WHY???????????
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>>175638478
>equipment is 30m
>try to grind that much
>finally get it
>equipment is sold
>cheapest one is 70m
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Can you pk in mabinogi?
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>>175638708
No.
You can duel them.
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>>175638306
Ah, that did it. Got me thinking about all their pay to win shit they pass off as "pay to start" just because you can technically lose it.
Thank you. Now I can return to being unhappy right away without wasting any money.
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>>175638757
Lame.
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>>175638782
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>>175637307
>...you really want to think about where the language is going to take you
>...if you learn a language, you will be forced to deal with these people on a daily basis
>...Don't just think of it in terms of salary, think in terms of quality of life and personal satisfaction
Real or not, there's some good advice there. Thanks, anon. Guess I should give the language part a bit more thought before jumping in.
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>>175543108
Darkfall: Rise of Agon comes out on Friday. I already have a 1 month sub on release.
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>>175638782
you can always see what its like if it releases, if its unplayable because the headstart whales are leagues ahead then you lose nothing, and if they do a wipe or something that allows new players to be on the same level as the headstarts then you also lost nothing
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>>175639229
>sub in 2017
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>>175639487
>playing games designed for people who spend thousands of $$$ monthly
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>>175590642
stop playing NovaRO
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>>175639487
Buy to Play + Subscription > Kickstarter + Cash Shop > Selling your personal info to identity thieves and distributing CP with a background process
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>>175639586
>>175639719
>defending subs
Hi shills.
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>>175639912
p2wfag plz go
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>>175639993
Either it dies or goes f2p within a year.
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>>175639912
Servers cost money. If a service is free you are the product.
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>>175640083
>you are the product.
Sounds lewd.
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>>175640083
They literally have a cash shop planned. Dumb shill.
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>>175639229
This looks sort of good. What kind of playstyle are you going for?
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>>175639912
subs are literally better than being able to pay an infinite amount for benefits
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>>175640203
I wasn't talking about any specific game, that is a very Jewish move on their part. A subscription fee is still necessary for a truly great MMO though.
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>>175632885
>About 6 months or so ago the drop rate of keys from dungeons was HEAVILY nerfed as well as the item of the month obtain rate being nerfed
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>>175640214
No idea, haven't played the previous iterations. Heard about this and looked into it, seemed interesting.
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>>175640250
>We plan to add in cosmetics and items that are not pay-to-win for our players to purchase with Nithron coins throughout development and will add our first options after release.
>items that are not pay-to-win
Shill speak for pay2advance because it's not strictly p2w

>>175640324
>A subscription fee is still necessary for a truly great MMO
not even an attempt at subtlety
>>
Play Drakensang with me.
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>>175640476
Aren't all arpgs just worse versions of PoE?
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>>175621608
RFO? Private or official server?
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People still don't realize they're basically content for the whales in f2p games?
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>>175640550
Runs better than PoE at least.
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>>175640595
Do I get a free sub if I help shill?
>>
Merchanting is probably my favorite part of mmorpgs. Am I a jew?
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>>175640892
I like merchanting too. But a lot of games have auction houses which kinda ruins the fun.
I liked it in MapleStory where you browse shops instead.
>>
MMOs should learn from GW2. Buy to play and no subscription or p2w cash shop items like potions or stat boosters.

I guess this works because of the equipment system in GW2, no refining/upgrading gear and no p2w runes/sigils.
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>>175640892
Depends on the game. In some that's pure autism, in others that's reasonable.
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Is there a single mmo left that focuses on group play for the majority of the game and doesn't focus on "Endgame"

I just want a fun living world to sink time into again
>>
>>175640576
redfox zephyr
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>>175641082
Learn how to throw away a huge community, ruin an IP, and die?

>>175641170
Contentless sandbox garbage like real life.
>>
>>175641091
I honestly prefer investing in items and wait for an update to shoot the prices up.
Made 30b in RS when the invention update hit because I bought an item for 50k and sold it for 8mil+ for 6 years.
>>
>>175640892
Which games have actual good merchanting? Or are you just talking about buying items below market price and then selling them over priced being a literal jew?
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>>175641260
Runeacape is pretty fun.
Just hang around in the Grand Exchange and ERP with other furries while waiting for your items to sell.
>>
>>175641227
Name a better MMO that's come out in the past few years that have been more successful than GW2? Or are you just addicted to the shit posting life?
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>>175641235
Oh. Yeah you're Jewish.
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>>175640892
>regularly make hundreds of millions on my rs3 and osrs flips
>bank worth tens of billions on either version of the game
>tfw feel nothing from it.
>no pride, no happiness, nothing
>haven't even played the game for close to a decade for anything other than logging in to put in a new trade offer

I do the same for PoE. I do nothing but trade. I feel so empty inside. I have all the items and currency I could ever want or need, but I do nothing with them.

Flipping can be fun, but don't let it take over your enjoyment of the game. It's an endless path with nothing lying in wait. More money just means more flips, which only continue to fuel the cycle. Try and stop before it gets too far.
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>>175641379
Well whatever more successful game I say you'll just say it's worse so eat shit. ESO blew it out of the water even when it had subs, because it successfully drew on the huge TES market instead of driving them off like GW2 did to GW players.
>>
>>175641520
Nice to see you're just talking out your ass. You must have a fun life being so addicted to shit posting on 4chan.
>>
>>175641481
Sell it for real money
>>
>>175640892
you should play EVE
there's three kinds of people in eve who do better than merchants: people who run alliances full of merchants, people who run casinos, and RMTers
>>
Trove is a good game because I managed to learn how to make MMO bots because of it's terrible systems
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>>175641481
>bank worth tens of billions on either version of the game
>tfw feel nothing from it.
>no pride, no happiness, nothing
What's the point of posting lies on the internet?
If you actually had lots of RS gold and actually played RS, you'd know that you can easily make big bucks with that much game currency.
>>
>>175641642
Tell me more about GW2's 8.5 million players. ZeniMax president Matt Firor talked about ESO'S 8.5 million players recently. Where uh... where are yours? Well you DO have 8.5 million players, right?
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>>175642158
yea but is eso a good game?
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>>175642818
not particularly
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>>175642158
Not that guy but those numbers sound entirely made up, i would even have a hard time thinking they have had 8.5 million unique accounts sign up for the game in the first place desu. I would be interested to see actual sources on that shit.
>>
>>175642818
No. Better than GW2 though.

>>175643026
Zenimax's word is the closest thing you can get, not like they're actually going to release a list of all accounts or something.
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>>175639058
His tech repair videos are good and informative though
>>
People said the terranium vendor would fix demon challenge prices but it just made it worse. What the fuck is neople going to do now to fix it.
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>>175644424
>terranium vendor
becky isn't even the real one
the real npc is supposed to be cheaper to buy terra from

they half-assedly made a Unique Experience event to cover up the fact the patch and update order is fucked compared to kdnf

we could have gotten the actual npc sometime ago
>>
>change price to as low as possible
>items still not sold
What do?
>>
>>175644676
you can only get a max of 900 invites per week with the npc. it's only going to get worse when she's gone and the other comes in for our version
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>>175645032
>900 invites per week
fuck


why doesn't neople increase the terra drop rate or something?
>>
>>175645032
confirmed for not even playing the game

they changed it so that the shop is available every day now

you can get 2100 invites per week up until the end of the event
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>>175645558
>2100 invites per week
rip panda rift runs
increased terra drops NOW!
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>>175645724
He's talking about the furry npc that gives stuff in exchange for terranium.
>>
ELLINIA WAITS YOU!
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>>175644971
>items can't sell because player can't hold that much money
How is it possable to come up with stupid shit like this?
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>>175645826
Go to bed.
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>>175645783
you're still retarded anyways

because the furry NPC lets you buy 900 invites PER DAY

so let it sink in about how gimped the becky event is for dfog and how we'll end up getting a nerfed furry NPC too
>>
Friendly reminder that Ashes of Creation is a pyramid scheme scam:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/68n6rt/ashes_of_creation_a_sandbox_mmo_which_focuses_on/dh0fyqv/?st=j279jixu&sh=37ba4f2d

inb4 le reddit le le
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>>175645558
The DNF NPC is 900 which is what they were talking about. The economy is royally fucked after Becky is gone since she didn't fix shit and that was their answer to bloated prices.
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>>175646090
The fuck are you on about dickhead?
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>>175491782
THEY
https://youtu.be/zI0oQbIdo_s?t=106
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>>175646641
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>>175646641
Please delete this
>>
Anyone plays Rise of Midgard? How is it?
>>
>>175648223
Nothing new. Dead population. Pre-re.
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>>175648298
Fuck, why are all decent pre-re ded
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>you will never experience the launch of everquest
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>>175646641
qt desu
>>
Is Mabinogi's private server still holding up?
I didn't want get in because I thought it would die soon.
>>
>>175648789
It died a long time ago.
>>
>tfw didn't even logged in dfo for "free" di for week or more
>want to play but other games are better.
>>
I want to play Dragon Nest again because I really enjoyed the story line.
But I don't want to make new characters just to replay old quests.
I wish you can watch/read old quest dialogue.
>>
>>175632073

So far revelations is their only mmo worth mentioning and it's already ruined by p2w.
>>
>>175652027
Rev and AoW are the only ones that made it over so far i think.
They both had shit companies to the port.
But the future of mmos is definitely china - look at moonlight blade, dark and light
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>>175651623
DFO should just shut down again already so they can plan on how to not make trash tier events the next time it launches again in 10 years.
>>
>>175651623
Tell me about these "other" games, I really need to know
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>>175653212
Tell me about it since I don't play DFO. How does an event make you want to not play the game?
>>
>>175653480
I switched to SP games for now...i have a bit of a backlog from all the time i wasted for mmos, so i play those.
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>novaRO guild is already dead
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>>175656771
That's what you get for posting cats.
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Welp it's another bright early morning in our purgatory. What are you niggas playing today?
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>>175656771
>because people happen to be offline due to timezone differences + things to tend to irl and I'm the only online one until people start coming online (which they always do eventually during the course of the day) it means the guild is dead
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>>175657568
what game?
i'm gonna play pirate king online after i fap, maybe try eve online
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>>175657710
RIFT
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>mabinogi/alexina
>i have no idea what i am doing and i'm having fun somehow, possibly because of it
Anyone playing on that server?
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>>175657846
I used to.
Got bored when the guild died.
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>>175646641
Crack is Over

I finally feel your cold hand
over the bright moon-light
the times we spent together looking at the stars
its gone like the dust only remaining in the dream of ours
As I gain my strength and by the time I was shining over my powers
it also brought me the same amount of sorrow.

Crack is Over
The looks I gave you, changed everything as I turned to the others
my warm heart is gone,
and my eyes are cold

"THEY call me the SONS of Sirocco (that's right)
the spear through your body what you gon do? (yeah)
No mercy in the battle the freedom is near,
(ayy ayy ayy) I got nothin' to lose no chance to the monster. (ayy ayy ayy)
You better run like everybody else does (ahh) I trust nobody cuz the trust is done (ahh)
revenge is coming you better hide the pain won't stop until I take away your life (HAHAHAHAHA)"

As I gain more power and shine...
The only thing left are left is cracked times
Crack is Over
The looks I gave them,
It no longer breathes in my heart.
It only remains beside you
in my cruel tears I drop
As my eyes became colder,
it will remain as a tear drop there.

>tfw this so-bad-its-good theme song was the only good thing to come out of Demonic Lancer

what went so wrong?
>>
what's the most EPIC upcoming (in the next few months at most) 3D MMO with good graphics, preferably sandbox?
>>
>>175657846
I am but won't be on until later today.
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>>175658263
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>>175653874
the game has almost 0 replayability for veteran players right now outside of designated raid days 3 times a week with a single limited entry per character

all the events for the past year after the event designer left has been desperately catered to getting new players into the game

before that, events gave a great incentive to actually play the game even if you're overgeared

but now we have

pls play our game and we'll give you free leveling tickets because players give up in certain level ranges and uninstall the game
pls play our game and actually hit level cap and we'll give you a free piece of welfare legendary equipment
pls play our game and we'll give you temporary useless avatars since new players want to dress up too
pls play our game and we'll give hp/mp potions shitters who constantly get hit and die even in scenarios

they could be creating events to address the horribly fucked up economy since drop rates are tuned for a population 20x larger than ours

it would actually give an incentive for people to actually run things outside of raid days if they get rewarded with useful things like enchant cards or demon invites since the market on them is drying up

but nope
>>
>>175658414
I liked how anton event was basically:

Double drops if you can do anton raid.
No drops because you can't even do raid with buff.

So if you didn't get lucky...get rekd lol
>>
Is the genre still dead?
>>
I am curious on your guy's opinion on the new trend in MMOs.

The trend of game makers thinking they are innovative by developing classless skill systems that are based on what weapon you wield. Do people actually like this? I find it to completely ruin the experience and kills any feeling or illusion of actual customization. I will be doing fine with the set of skills I have and then have to upgrade my weapon only to get a new set of shitty skills and be forced to find a better version of the weapon I had. It could be cool if a couple of skills worked this way but all of them? I felt Guildwars 2 was ruined by this, but it seems to be the popular way to go these days.
>>
>>175658306
what's your issue mother fucker
>>
>>175658184
JP theme was better
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Any game where I can be a healslut just like in the good old days?
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>>175660356
You're too demanding, my love.
>>
>>175659951
On individual weapons or just weapon types?
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>>175660784
Sure thing anon.
>>
>>175661187
I have never played RO in my life and have no idea what it's like. Should I fall for your desperate shilling?
>>
>>175661145
Sort of both. I get the idea of like a wand giving you different abilities than say a staff or even a bow. But I don't like the idea of no static class abilities. It started with weapon types like in Gw2 or even Runescape, but it is growing now into individual weapons in some new MMO I have played on mobile and in betas. I don't see the appeal. I like having static spells, especially if I can customize those like in a skill tree system. Having all my abilities change or even my class change from switching weapons is an annoying concept that kills character dev to me.
>>
>>175661314
Yes
>>
>>175661541
Ok
>>
The nexon launcher gives me aids and cancer
>>
>>175661374
I haven't played enough MMOs to see something like that but I get what you're saying. Doesn't really sound that great. What are some MMOs that do that?
>>
>>175662426
The Albion game that is coming up is supposed to be based on this system, ever item you have changed your skills. I haven't paid to play the beta so I get this from their description of the game and watching streams of it. A lot of mobile "mmo" follow this formula, especially where the skills and class are tied to your weapon. No surprise that mobile mmos are shit, but they are growing in popularity and it is starting to leech in the mainstream mmo scene see Albion. I didn't like the skill system in GW2 as I felt it was along these lines as well. I feel like this was an attempt to make the pacing in mmos feel faster as in you don't need to grind to get new skills and such, but it misses the mark.
>>
>>175656771
I'll join if you help me gear my character
>>
>>175665676
Guild isn't actually dead btw
We have a spread sheet you can use to let us know what you need.
>>
>>175666115
I need a friend
>>
>>175666115
Yo where you at nigga

I have played nova since the Christmas event and I'm bored af right now, might as well join in the fun
>>
>>175666216
>>175666258
Our home base is at archer village, outside of payon dungeon.
>>
>>175666258
haven't*

been 4 months since last login
>>
Nobody's actually playing Ellinia anymore, right? I don't want to redownload the files
>>
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>need to do one Interdimensional Rupture mission for daily challenge
>get Puppet Museum
>>
>>175656771
>novaRO
x1 drop for ww suits I kinda can understand.
x1 drop for crimson weapons was bullshit.
Now 2.5 years into server life nova nerfed valk shields to x1 and +0 valk shield cost a bit over an hour of gefenia grinding.
And upcoming custom game mode IS ONLY FOR GUILDS THAT PARTICIPATE IN WOE. Yes, for whole 150 people out of ~1000 online (not counting vendors). And the only known rewards for that mode is cute hats and not pvp gears and consumables.
>>
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>>175667502
>need to do one Interdimensional Rupture mission for daily challenge
>get Frozenheart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Z75hnqWS0
MY SOUL
>>
>>175667782
If we get enough people we might be able to woe
But right now we're lacking people and gears ;_;
>>
>>175656771
How many ACTIVE members in the guild?

Also, would you be interested in some GIB BRAGI?
>>
>Ashes will be P2P

abloo hoo
>>
>>175667782
>nova nerfed valk shields to x1
no fucking wonder valk shields cost 20m now
>>
>>175667782
Oh yeah, can't forget that you don't get loot if monster died longer than 5 seconds after your damage (fuck you gx and mechanic).
That leech end and any burn (primarily from magma eruption) don't give exp or progress eden quests (fuck you gx mechanic and sc).
That using items remove teleport invulnerability (fuck you everyone who dare trying to farm dangerous maps solo).
>>
>>175668510
>making an MMO peer2peer
biggest blunder of the century?
>>
what's the nova guild
>>
>>175668740
pay to play, my dear shitposter
>>
>>175668492
Around 10 people who log in during different times of the day

And yes, we're missing a minstrel!

>>175668839
Guildname is Nice Meme
Archer village (outside of payon dungeon) is where you'll find us!
>>
>>175668860
Pretty sure anon was joking, newfriend.
>>
>>175640203
kek at this guy talking about an entirely different game to appear as though he was not thoroughly shit on
>>
>>175658263
>sandbox
>good
oh anon, I'm so sorry...
>>
>playing rift
>can skin a werewolf
that's bretty cool
>>
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>>175668510
They have bigger problems, like being tab targeted with such generic classes. No matter how neat the Node system is - which I honestly think will lose its luster after your cozy house gets burnt down in the name of progress - without good GAMEplay the GAME is shit.
>>
>>175667461
around 3 ppl are active
>>
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>Over the lifetime of the account, whenever your friends who registered under your unique referral code spend money in Ashes of Creation, including on Kickstarter pledges, you will receive 15% of their account purchases back in either in-game credits or cash back, your choice.
>Payouts occur quarterly and will begin after Ashes of Creation has officially launched.
>In order to receive cash payouts, users must fill out the correct tax paperwork for their region ahead of a quarterly payout, which includes identity confirmation.
>If choosing to receive in-game credits, the total will be added to your in-game credit balance and can be used for in-game purchases such as paying for subscription time or cosmetic marketplace items.

https://www.ashesofcreation.com/referral-program/
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>>175669870
Well that explains the aggressive Youtube shilling.
>>
>>175669870

>>175646371
>>
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>>175646371
Where are the video games? I was told there would be video games. This isn't video games at all.
>>
Is it better to play with FP express or without it? Im level 61
>>
>>175669870
What the fuck
>>
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>>175646371
>>175669870

Lead guy responds:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AshesofCreation/comments/68tk1l/why_the_ashes_of_creation_referral_program_is_not/dh1912j/

So he did in fact sell fruity drinks to people on behalf of a shady company.
>>
>>175670956
If you want more exp, off. If you want to run off out fp as fast as possible, on.
>>
>>175639229
It looks like it was made 12 years ago.
>>
>>175633828
what about rpg games?
>>
>>175672063
It was made 8 years ago.
>>
>>175671616
There is literally nothing wrong with a fresh out of college marketer taking whatever job he can get. I'd work for Hitler right now, and my mother is Jewish.
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>>175672490
Who wouldn't work for Hitler?
>>
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>>175671616
>I am personally one who strongly believes in transparency
>Kickstarter doesn't show 90% of the rewards
>Kickstarter doesn't name their "private backing"
>>
>>175662903
The problem with Albion system is that items are more important than player skills. Actually most of the skills only unlock ability to use higher level items.

It should be other way around.
e.g. lvl 100 swordsman must be capable of deadly wield even lvl 1 bamboo fork
>>
>>175661187
2B or not 2B?
>>
>>175491782

>>175676073
>>175676073
>>175676073
>>
>>175592196

If wow would have zone invasions my dick would explode.
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>>175676114
>dat OP
>>
Did you know?
Everyone here wants you dead!
Oh, that includes me, of course.
>>
>>175676391
captures the existence and nihilism that is DFO
>>
>>175677373
Even I want me dead
>>
>>175639912

I'll pay 15 dollars a month to keep rabble out and a cash shop from being PtW.

I literally dropped 15 dollars on chicken nuggets yesterday, and they gave me way less entertainment than any game I was ever subbed too.
>>
>>175677586
Protip: Don't take anyone who misuses the term "shill" seriously.
>>
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pls undastan
Sword Master, Low Tier.
>>
>>175679638
Sword mom is good tier.
>>
>>175592487
what game&
>>
>>175632198
what game is this?
>>
>>175682186
fat purple asses online
>>
>>175681892
asta
>>
When is bless coming out?
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