Starsector General /stsg)

>>175617464
>nothing in the OP

[REEEEEEEEEEEEEDACTED]

What do I do with survey data? Just sell it where ever or can I turn it in for rep?

>>175618367
sell it to tritachs

>try to use salamander missiles
>fire them
>enemy PD shoots them down perfectly, ever time
>enemy uses salamander missiles
>my PD is blind as fuck, couldn't hit a flying fucking barn if it came screaming at the ship
>missiles inevitably hit engines no matter what fancy flying is employed
>half-hour flameout ensues
Ban salamander.

>>175617464
Aurora is super solid as a.high tech ship.
Modest weapons for a cruiser, fast, well shielded and lots of flux.

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anon wasn't kidding around, these fucks are anti-frigates as fuck

>>175618367
>>175618427
And give your cores to Tri-Tach as well.

Don't forget to take their derelict scan missions, and in fact why don't you just get a commission with them while you're at it?
It's the smart choice.

>on laptop because retard
>shield never deploys because touchpad rightclick is garbage
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Anyone have that mod with the smaller gun graphics?

>>175618604
Wolf (SNT) is also a good frigate killer due to how annoying the drone is. It's weapons consume no flux, only it's shield does, and it has 1000 flux with 1.00 efficiency.

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>>175618604
>assault chaingun
>safety overrides
thats the stuff, my son

>>175618427
>>175618670
That's what I plan. Haven't played in a year so my old saves with my glorious paragon are dead so I want it back. Is why I ask if I can get rep with the data. When can I get a commission because I think that's new to me as well. I only remember having to build rep to buy the shit.

>>175618670
It really is. Tri-tach has the best ships. As the player, you need the hi-tech ships. You don't have the privilege of having infinity ships with no concept of loss like the AI. They can field 20 unshielded frigates and not care a jot how many go down.
You need Tri-Tachyon's hi-tech stuff to even that shit out. That's simply how it is.

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>tfw you don't want to throw away loot
>too slow
>get raided by pirates
>even more loot

>/stsg/
>not /starg/ or /stag/

>>175618948
Safety overrides is a meme.

The reduced peak time will kill your fleet in combat.

>>175619584
Those don't make any sense.

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>>175619663
you don't use it on the whole fleet, obviously. I just have this guy rigged up with safety overrides so he can run around and facefuck frigates for a few minutes, and then if the battle lasts longer than that I order it to retreat.

>http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=12004.0

>>>someone thought this shit was worth showing

my sides have been destroyed

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>>175619925
>those ships
>those portraits

>>175619663
it's good on the beginning when you're going solo frigate and want to get edge on enemy ships.

>>175619925
Those are some edgy ships.

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>>175619925
pls don't bully

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>>175619925
Those are some Mii-verse tier avatars.

On another note, Diable is out, just incase people missed it.
http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=10046.435

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>>175620437
>offer to hire /her/
did you just assume my pronouns, shitlord?

>>175620592
Dev-mode controlling the Wanzers is a fantastic feeling.

>>175620437
9th grade/10

I cant get the 1GB ram fix to work. Changing the ymparams thing won't let me start the game at all and I followed the instructions with changing flash?

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Why does the ingame description for ion pulsers just say "What a mess."?

>>175621864
Open starsector.log in the starsector-core folder and check there that your JRE 64 bits, and version 7

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>>175618128
Seriously, there should be a rudimentary pastebin by this point.

>>175622093
okay got it to work (I think), just used JRE7 instead of newest and with new ymparams with 2g-4g RAM

Added Neutrino and Diables, TIME TO RAPE PIRATES

>>175620437
He probably just added the portrait entry to the wrong section

It's really easy to do by accident.

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*slows down time*
nothin personnel...kid...

>>175622856
>toki wo tomare

>In combat, this officer is aggresive to a fault, often disregarding the safety of their ship entirely in an effort to engage the enemy.

is this hyperbole or are reckless officers 'blow up their own ship: the personality type'

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I wonder what a 3D model of the Oddysey would look like.

It's a really strange shaped ship.

Doubled all weapon ranges, not really sure about it.
Combat feels more reel but missiles are borderline useless against PD.

how much does it cost to remove D mods on a Lasher D? costs 7k to buy, like 10k for a normal, can't be that expensive right?

>>175622038
because they're useless

>>175624931
restoring a ship costs more than buying a pristine hull. you should really only be restoring rare ships that you can't otherwise buy undamaged versions of.

>>175624931
>25k

not worth it desu im not a pleb who uses shit ships

>>175624315
Then go back over it and reduce PD range. Point-defense wouldn't be that long-range, anyway. It's got to be short-range and focused.

>>175623665
asymmetrical ballz

>>175625130
D'oh.
Doing that then.

>equip Reaper
>AI never uses
>finally uses it
>big boom
hehehehehe

>>175623363
they aren't that bad, they're just bad at fighting fleets without support

Will there be a hotfix to fix these crazy, homicidal motherfucker salvagers?

>>175625715
>implying you don't deserve it for flying around with your fuel titties out like a space whore

Diable updated

the fuck is a orbital habitat

>>175626585
It's a habitat in orbit.

>>175622856
what in the fuck is this

>>175627605
http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=12110.0

I'm a new player who just got done with the tutorial. I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing now. Can anyone point me in a direction?

>>175622583
I wish there was an anti-shield fighter as fast as Claw. Them + Broadswords completely fuck things, but I always lose a couple claws before the broadswords actually get there.

phase ships are super fucking annoying with the AI
>hur i wont fight u until my phase is off cooldown

>add new mod
>need to redo tutorial
Who thought this was funny needs to be shot

>>175628186
What mod did you install, I've installed a few but never needed to redo the tutorial

Why is shadowyards such a pain to fight?
If you shields are low for some reason you can instantly lose engines and armor, and then all those ships with burn drives to get out of danger

>>175628632
Anything with mobility is complete fucking aids in this game because the AI has defense as the #1 priority. You will literally never have a fun fight against Luddic Path because even if you have them beat they'll just run away at 250 speed until their fucking engines burn out.

What's the logic behind what music plays?
I added a bunch of music using audioplus as an example and only 2 songs play, seemingly based on my location in the universe, but I have 4 set up to play.

Can someone give me some advice on equipping ships?

I've just been using auto loadout because I can't figure out what to actually do. Same with ships. I just grabbed a Mule because it seemed decent for a cheap ship at the start of the game.

>>175629352
I usually just use lasers and missiles. Ships that don't support my style get culled in the heat of battle.

>>175629031
What faction the market you're interacting with is influences the background music, and so does what faction the fleet you're interacting with is.

markets need to be bigger, it's dumb that a single person (me) can buy out all the supplies and I don't even have cruisers or a big fleet

>>175627825
Make money. Go kill things. Explore. Not necessarily in that order.

>pirate dominator cruiser

3 condors bitch

>10 seconds after a mora class pirate armada fights me

o-okay
>we won

>>175617464
Sex and romance mod when

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what a fucking bossfight

>>175629769
Check the market size before you jump to a planet. At 7 they will have more than enough to restock.

>>175631204

Speaking of, is there a 7 or larger independant planet?

>>175631108
I wouldn't be surprised if Moras become less sturdy in the next update, they're monstrous right now.

>>175631536

>get jumped by 3 mora, 2 aurora fleet

Fuck I took a beating. Got to salvage some aurorai though.

>>175631325
When you mod it.

>>175631536
Damper field on carrier(damper fields are annoying as hell anyway) that spawn unlimited fighters.
Had fight against 2 moras with some trashcans with my Falcon, flak Hammerhead and 6 wolves/lashers and a condor and get wiped.
6 Talons was too much and I not even dent them as Moras where always on 100%(at worse at 95%) replacement rate.
This is bullshit.

>while the scan find no overt contraband, the quantity of cargo found, combined with indirect evidence of your prior black market activities, is enough to raise suspicions

>>175624315
What do you edit to change weapon ranges?

I want to increase range of everything by 1.5x

>>175633430
Starsector\starsector-core\data\weapons\weapon_data.csv

>>175628829
Some behaviour options would be nice

Like setting a unit to be aggressive (or giving it an aggressive officer) so they'll actually take some calculated risks.

>>175633563
I guess I'd also have to edit the same thing in all the different mod folders too

>>175617464
are the silent armada and the outer rim alliance good mods or they are inbalanced?

>>175619925
no the worst ive's seen

shit design is ass. the ship artwork i've seen can be worke by turning colours more opaque and adding a couple filters.

but his design, god almighty, it's shit.

give him legit criticism, we need more modders.

>>175619925
>>175620148

Needs more edge.

>>175633430
>>175624315
Don't forget to increase projectile speed

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New update v1.5

http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=11997

If I wanted to change spacefighters without changing any stats, would it be as simple as a sprite swap?

>>175636607
Still needs a secret dragon dildo ship, or a mass- missile pantsu.

>>175637419
but neither of those are gundams anon

>>175636607
>only one ship
>nine "fighters"

Nah.

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>>175637585

>>175633352
>get this message
>all i did was buy a ship or two

>>175637804
>buying high tech cruisers and tactical missiles is no big deal but buying a handgun is

>>175623665
like a blue dog penis with a lot of tumors

>>175637585
Why do you want ships on the gundam mod?

>>175636607
does this out anime approlgiht

>>175638583
I don't believe so, desu at the moment the isaribi might be a bit weak but I'll wait on feedback for that. The MS' however might need a tiny nerf in damage.

now when I get to the gundams they might end up pretty anime

>>175638583
nothing can out-anime approlight

>heavy brawler with engine injection
Nice

>>175638758
mod where every ship is super powerful when

>>175636607
Fixed a small bug for the Isaribi where it had two launch bays counted as one and would cause the ship to not move, redownload for the fixed version.

Fucking hate scavengers

>>175638583
>game based around ships
>y you want ships tho????

Almost as retarded as that mod.

I hate all you guys

>>175640019
WHY?>
ANON WHY?

>>175640019
oh no

BLACKROCK FUCKING WHEN

>>175640449
After 0.8.1

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>>175622583
Here's the latest version.

I'm considering doing the same thing for all weapons, but there's a shitton of them.

Need some sort of anti phase weaponry. Maybe a phase hunter missile that can hit phased ships or something to overload them while phased forcing them back.

>>175641278
Use beams and annihilator rocket launcher. I usually have 2 lashers (if early-game) or wolves (late-game) on anti-phase duty.

>>175641276
Neat, thanks.

>>175641276
You hear my advice and put weapons on it. Nice.

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>tfw your employer wants to get rid of you

>>175641276
Tridents are a letdown compared to daggers. If they had 30 OP cost and carried reapers, now THAT would be fucking scary.

>>175641276
wtf i miss itwhen daggers had reapers :(

>>175642349
Would be super OP with reserve deployment. Pretty sure 5 reapers are enough to kill an unshielded onslaught.

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>>175636607

Isarabi is neat and all.

But how the hell did you decide to make that before White Base?

>>175641276

Maybe just a recomended for each size/type and good combos for the guns?

>>175642521
Well, at the moment only doing IBO stuff but once I get through what I plan to add I'll start on the original timeline.

Will you do me a favour, Piano Man please?
I want you to write me a song ..
They call me the hero of Antelope's Run
And I've gotta show them they're wrong.

>>>20 minutes into a new save, going full jew and exploration salvage shit
>>>find legion capital ship in a derelict

STOP

>>175622583
>>175641276
Every description should just tell you to use Sparks instead.

>>175644335
Hopefully, Alex will nerf them or at least restrict them to very rare REDACTED drops. He said he's going to make fighters weaker in one of the future updates.

>hunt down bounty fleet, its weird because its not in the same system as it says in the description
>destroy all piloted ships
>one ship gets away and destroys itself after a few seconds
>don't get the bounty
Why?

the AI is so fucking frustrating
>hur my ship is faster
>cant touch me

Im not even doing anything and this fucking frigate wont get my frigates range

>>175644446
Because you are not withing the inhabited systems to get the money transfer.

>>175644620
Reeee

>>175644446
You will get reward when you get close to the systems with relays.
>>175644442
Currently fighters are OP.
Its true lat days of battleships and beginning of carriers supremacy.

>>175644682
Just fly back to the systems lmao

>>175642029
>yfw somone is already en route to salvage whatever left of you

>>175617464
What kind of shit general is this?

It doesn't even have a pastebin or a link TO THE FUCKING GAME

>>175644509
>shove dozens of salamanders up its ass by the horde of wolfes
>the entire hull is glowing, anyone farting would blast it apart
>it STILL glides out of screen and "retreats" Every. God. Damn. Time.

Now thats bullshit

>>175645068
its not general at all
send thank to op fag and gay mods
its half dead anyway

>>175645068
a video game thread exiled to vg because it was talking about a video game instead of fapping to 2Butt or femlink

The fact that it survived long enough to have a second thread was such a shock that we didnt plan for that

>>175645068
Because it has been forced here by the mods when it was fine in /v/

>>175645068
>I'M SO FUCKING STUPID AND RETARDED THAT I CAN'T EVEN FUCKING GOOGLE A FILE NAME

wew

should i just sell survey data to any black market? i know tachyons like the ai cores

>>175645813
This is /vg/ and this is not a general, kindly fuck back off to /v/

>>175646174
>get told to fuck off to /vg/ when on /v/
>get told to fuck off to /v/ when on /vg/
wew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf3TkVBI6Xg

bideau gaems

>>175646591
Are you seriously taking his very obvious bait this hard?

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>>175646737

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>>175619474

>fighters dont go out when they are needed to attack
>fighters dont come back when the carriers are under attack

reee

>>175646107
askonia -stability 9/10 black market for max profit

>ship uses missile reload thing
>instantly vents because of the heat it generates, without firing the second volley of missiles that the ability is intended for
can't believe this behavior still exists

>>175622583
>>175641276
I second this. An informative pastebin would be wonderful.

>>175645172
>half dead
just like the game

>cruiser with my fighter support slides off the map and never comes back even after given orders
>lose my Doom and manage to save it by switching over to my last ship
>last ship was my tempest
Not going to save scum because I managed to save all the fucking cargo I have, but to lose my flagship because the game decided to bug out on me is such bullshit. I don't have the rep yet to just buy another one because I found that one on the black market.

My fleet is 4 kites and an assortment of lashers and wolves, I got 100k, what should I buy? I want to keep a high burn level.

>>175648537
more lashers

>>175649158
I guess I could buy 6 lashers and have enough supply money for a month or two

>>175649280
MORE LASHERS

>>175648537
carriers, carriers , carrier carrier carrier carrier carriers
carrier carrier carrier carrier carrier carrying carriers carrying carriers.
carrier carrier carrier carrier
carriers

How do you do bounties? All the bounties I find seem to end within 10 days when it takes 15 to get to the place

I think the black market needs a slight rework. It's too easy to use it for everything and bypass the normal market

>>175647067
Press y or z to change behaviour

>>175650407
Everything about the market is too easy, Black Market is just turbo easy mode.

>>175650478
AI controlled

Do I need that graphicslib mod to actually run Neutrino? If not, I've got literally no idea what is causing it to be unable to start

>>175650884
I believe so, because it says, y'know, Required in size 24 font and red at the top of the page.

Diable update when

>>175650947
oh

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>>175650884
>>175650947

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>>175650884
>>175650947

Common anon, how the fuck did you miss that?

>>175650953

A few hours ago. >>175620592

>>175650884
Neutrino is a shit mod, don't add it

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Is it true that one of the modders is a qt

>>175651108
>>175651072
i saw the lazylib required and immediately disregarded the red text and say 'get graphicslib for pretty lights' so i think i'm retarded

>>175651249
Nope. Its just a meme.
I know him he is a guy with typical slav face.
His sister is cute.

>tfw only shitmods got updated
SS isn't about toyships y'know

Why are beam AI ships, who outrange everything else in the game, still so passive?

>>175651560
SRA is up though
I'm waiting for 8.1 and more mods though, mostly because of major balance issues in the game currently

>>175651249
>>175651374
wtf are you creeps talking about

>>175651731
where do you think you are?

>>175651680
>ships with swag camo
no thx

>>175651560
>>175651186

What do you consider good? Boring shit like Tiandong? At least with crazy mods like Appro they give you something to do late game, even if you don't actually use their ships.

>tfw you have shit taste and don't like mechas in ur spaceships
Is there any way to disable just the Wanzers in Diable or am I out of luck? I think they're really well done and all but don't feel they fit the setting of the game

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>>175652019
btw I'm not the first anon, Neutrino is ok but I didn't noticed them before, so I have no idea how what they are like

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Any mod that gives you a ridiculously long battleship with tons of Large balistic slots? I installed Tiandong Heavy Industries and I have the urge to mow things down with tons of Ultra autocannons

>>175651785
You mean like 14th Battleground variants? You mean like Pirate variants? You mean like Luddic Path variants?

SRA might look a little flashy in the preview pictures that are up on the mod page but in game they blend in with vanilla seamlessly.

>>175652439
Steel Ocean

>>175652301
>leading pip
check out this casual

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What's a good loadout for AI Medusa?

>>175652526

4AM blasters in front and 2 Phase Lances.

>>175652443
Lots of people forget that the interpolation ingame blends most sprite styles together quite well, and that damage decals and all the other stuff helps as well

>>175652560
I don't have phase lances and that sounds silly

>>175652616

It's excellent though. I'd also recommend SO for going fast and killing shit quickly.

>>175652653
I don't think the AI knows how to take advantage of that

>>175652713
Eliminate command
Reckless personality

>>175652713

Oh, for the AI just put some long range beams. Medusa isn't really a good AI ship.

>>175652849
Any ship with a strong shield and good mobility is fine for AI.

>>175652494
>Steel Ocean
Is it in the index? I can´t find it

>>175652439
tiandong itself gives you the Xu which is basically that so..

is ExtraSystem OP? I´m not noticing the ship upgrades as much as I should because I´m doing it little by little, so honestly I can´t tell

>>175636607
This doesnt need a save reset right?

What's the best earlygame method of making DOLLARS when you've got no supplies whatsoever

>>175653193
It introduces power-creep for the player, while majority of enemy fleets don't have the buffs

>>175653347
Surveying

>>175653347
Best method? Surveying is extremely easy and extremely profitable so if you want to play the game on easy mode go for that.

>>175653183
Honestly I like the idea of the Xu but on practice it sucks
>can only aim 3 of those Large balistic guns on the same target at the same time
That´s just 1 more than that small destroyer the mod gives you. I don´t know, it just doesn´t feel right
Just out of curiosity, from which mod is that huge grey battleship at the top the pic in the OP? >>175617464

What's your flagship? I was thinking of getting an onslaught but it's top speed is like 60. I want a really big gun platform but not if it can't actually get in range to hit most things.

>>175641276
Please make one for ships

>>175652849
Both medusa and wolf are very good AI ships, they don't jump in and die like one could believe, rather they dodge shit like mlg360 pros all the time and they have inhuman reaction with the omni shield. I give them pulse lasers to avoid the flux spikes of blasters and lances. Not sure how they behave with aggressive and reckless pilots though, i mostly use steady.

>>175654071
I don't know about Wolf, too many times I've seen them teleport directly into the firing line of several enemy ships and then get thoroughly blown the fuck out in a second. Also Wolf has no Omni shield.

>several years old pic full of outdated, long dead garbage in the OP

Now Tempest, that's a damn strong AI frigate. Takes on Cruisers by itself and wins.

>>175654206
at least it gives an indication of the longevity of certain mods

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>>175654206
How about an even more outdated one, instead?

>>175654426
>Sunder used to be a cruiser
Now that does make a lot of sense

>>175654138
It CAN happen but it's rare imo. Sounds more like the problem "normal" frigates have in general in larger battles where they can get zerged easily which is why i stop using them at that point.

>>175645106
I've had Sparks get kills while the ships were already off the screen.

>>175645106
>what is inertia

>>175654138
the good thing about wolf is that they can also teleport out of the lock of missiles when their shields are near max flux
best frigatefu is still tempest tho

>>175654825
Brawler is funnier though, you can dick with everybody risk-free because of damper field.
>>175654716
Sparks kill everything anyways.

>go on salvage/survey mission
>pick up a few new old ships
>suddenly don't have enough fuel to make it back home
Oh my god it's like all these spaceships need fuel or something just let me have my fucking loot.

>>175654983
for the recovery cost, 2 brawlers are usually better than a single version of most destroyers
but >slow

>>175652439

Neutrino Ships look like space battleships properly.

Especially the Banshee.

>Cruising through a battleship while my strike-carriers engage enemies in my Banshee
>Broadsiding the fuck out of niggas with my 6+ Magnetar Burst mounts & MCEPCs


Also, Diable just dropped fellas.

Newgame modo time.

Diable out. Feel like making a fresh save asap but i'll probably wait a little bit until at least blackrock is out too, i've already blown like 40h on this vanilla patch only. I don't know what the fuck is going on with this game but it must tickle the core of my autism or something because time just literally disappears.

>>175655416
Blackrock won't be updated that soon apparently
http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=4018.msg207255#msg207255

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Giving this to Tri-Tachyon, or anyone, seems like a really, really bad idea.

But that cash'n'rep, tho.

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>>175655724
Give it to the Luddic Church.
You would believe that they will smash the cores with the hammer but that is no true.
They just brainwash AI from logic to Theo-logic and make them firm and devoted followers of Ludd.

>>175630986
no thanks i don't want this game to revolve entirely around the romances and have dudes getting salty that the lesbian doesn't want to suck your dick

>>175655926
>safety overrides redacted fleets and sparks

Please no

>>175631204
There is literally only one seven size market in the base game.

>>175637804
>be patrol fleet
>see guy fly into port
>comes back out with an Onslaught battlecruiser
>no records of him buying it on planet
>have to let him go because it's not illegal for Onslaught battlecruisers to randomly show up in your fleet

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>>175656101
I kind of fond of highly religious AI that cite verse of Holy Book and sing of Glory of the Lord in the free time when its not take part in Crusaders to spread the word or assist in faithful.
Anyone know maybe about some of SF books with this trope?

>>175656121
The game should track origin of the ships and player should register them on main ports(or acquire forged documents).
Buying from black markets ships especially should be either expensive or risky.

>>175656237
An AI would probably follow the religious rules too strictly and would declare a lot of people, and a lot of basic human activity, as being completely blasphemous and heretical.

>>175656448
Dunno.If it would be truly AI then it should have some flexibility.
Of course the main problem would be how AI handle this?
Guiding and conversion or purging and witch hunting?

>>175656316
The game should let you split your fleet. And keep track of which faction keeps records of the others, so Tri-Tachyon doesn't know your Onslaught is black market, and you can ACTUALLY FUCKING SNEAK INTO MARKETS WHEN YOUR FLEET IS HUGE again.

>>175656575
Also some civilian ships should surrender in the fight if they can not run.
Its silly that tankers and cargo haulers just force you to kill them.

>>175656857
oh well, it's just alpha yet

i'm more interested in outposts and the economy being fixed now

I want my X3 fix

every day I still weep for Stillbirth

>>175656857
There should be an option to just cripple a ships engines. It could work on civilian-grade hulls but not on military ones.

>>175656857
>>175656971
Or just have boarding vessels full of marines that can take over fleeing civilian ships during a chase.

>>175657097
Assault ships when?

>>175656548
Would an AI have the kind of natural drives and instincts that push humans to bend and break the rules of their religion? The AI could probably follow the rules closer and maybe even edit its own programming to bring itself more in-line with the religion.
You're probably right that a human-like AI would be really flexible on the religion. A more logical one would probably go full conversion of the heretics, trying to mentally reprogram everyone.

>>175657097
>Derelict Space Hulk
((( ! )))

>>175657169
If you look closely on religions they consist of set laws and can be compared to a program.
Kind of self replicating one that thrive when assimilate others.

Is there no way to add a faction and get access to it without starting a new game?

>>175657248
>find derelict
>send boarding party
>boarding party suddenly goes silent
>all attempts at hailing the team are met with total silence
>send another team
>sudden screaming starts coming from the comms of the previous team
>second team starts screaming
>comms officer on your bridge also screams and goes hysterical, has to be restrained
>write off the boarding parties and pound the derelict into scrap
>leave and never look back

I know it's not the sort of thing the SS devs are going for but the game does have a lot of potential for some deep space spookiness.
Better written deep space spookiness, hopefully.

>>175657481
Good thing there's a modding community.

But boarding civilian ships during a chase sounds like an actual feature though.

>>175657595
Shit there's even the commander pod thing that the boarding ships could use to transport marines to civilian ships. Someone call Alex.

Would it work if they added an option to seriously upgrade ships?

Like you could buy extra ordnance points for ships, at a high cost in heavy machinery, normal and rare metals and lots of cash (50k per point).
Doing something like that would also significantly increase maintenance costs. So it would give the player the option to have a few heavily customised, really powerful ships or have a large fleet of regular ones.
It would be a handy money sink for all these millions.

Maybe. Probably not.

>>175657878
No because that's all it would be, a money sink.

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these orbits legit triggered me

>>175651249
name???

>>175657878
Check out Extra Systems mod

Honestly Sparks and other autonomous fighters shouldn't be salvageable.

>>175657982
>those fast as fuck asteroids
GONNA GET YOU
LIKE A SPACE BOY
WO WOWOWO

>>175658072
Or bought.

>>175657878
Salvageable ships should:

1. Be worth a lot more money
2. Be a lot more rare

And refitting /repairing them should only remove 1 D-mod at a time instead of all of them.

So you can either pay 1.25x the cost of the ship brand new to repair it all the way back to being brand new - after fixing up the d-mods, or you can sell it for 33% of the brand new price.

>>175658190
>salvage a destroyer
>spend about 3k in supplies to patch it up the holes in the armour and restore CR
>sell it for 1.5k
>check market
>market is reselling it for 20k
Definitely need to ramp up the sale value of player ships.

Yeah, it's not like it's hard to make shitloads of cash already but it would be a more of a good sense change.

>>175658190
There's nothing really wrong with salvageable ships currently, other than that they're worth less than a couple cases of supplies. They're still objectively worse to non-damaged ships, just more economical and that's a good way to balance it.

>>175658190
When and only when there is true end-game money sink, then I will completely agree with the. As its stands though I think the values are alright.

Uhh guys wasn't the blue U sunder vanilla? Literally doesn't exist

>>175657982
GOTTA
GO
FAST

>People talkign about finding GOAT derelicts early in the game
>Literally put like 60+ hours into .8a build
>Nothing

>Install Diable
>Find a fucking Dominator right outside Corvus.

>>175659225
It happens, I once started a game right next to a derelict, non-damaged Mora.

On a sort of related note, do the carrier related skills also apply to the Mining Drones and the Terminator Drone?

>>175659337

Yes.

They apply to all ship built-in drones of all sorts. And Fighters.

>>175659141
SS+
And later weapon and ship pack
and it will be no ported to 8.1

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How do I fit this sexy thing?

Biggest ship I have, rekt a pirate fleet with it and it was salvage.

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>>175659225
They often can be found nearby inactive gate in empty systems.

So what sort of things should we include in the OP?
I was thinking of:

-Those weapons/fighters quick guides for new players
-Java 64 shit for new players wanting to install mods
-That anon soundplus mega
-How to start playing guide? Haven't seen one but we get a lot of questions about it

>>175659760
>autopulse
>burst pd
>missiles???
>the two small front facing energy mounts are useless
should work

>>175659760
It works best as a support ship with squall + high intensity + tactical lasers + graviton beams, but I used autopulse (only good against smaller ships desu) and plasma cannon (good as a strike weapon when you have kinetic support ships) as well.

>>175660158
You install either tactical lasers there if you have big heavy flux weapons (plasma/tachyon lance) or 2 antimatter blasters if you need burst damage and you already have high intensity laser.

>>175660267
2 blasters is nice but very heavy, 2 tacs is nothing.

I'd rather spend the OP elsewhere, the single Autopulse with some range mod and super strong shields is good enough on its own.

>>175660508

AutoPulse is not -that- damn good. Even with Expanded Magazines.

Tac Lasers are to be used for pressuring.

>Find a pair of Wolf Sentinels derelict
>Dat 180+ to Fleet Sensors

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>>175657982

Isn't that the Neutrino Star, hidden behind a Hyperstorm?

What's wrong? Don't you have Neutrino Corporate access codes and 25 000 supplies?

>>175660158
>>175660202

I hear a lot about autpulse and burst pd. I just can't find the autopulse.

>>175661498

>25,000 Supplies
>Literally 3.75m Credits

Don't even know how you get Corporate Access Codes

You guys have tips on increasing fps? Rich pirates slow me down to ~15-20fps. I updated my java & did the vmparams thing

fx6300, 2gb 7870hd & 16 gb ram

>>175662568

The game is CPU intensive I feel, so even if you reduce res and all that your system might still struggle.

>>175662568
hide ui

>>175662916
yep, SS is heavily single thread CPU bottlenecked

>>175618562
top kek

>>175662568

I've a FX6350 & a HD7870 and 8GB of ram and nothing slows me down except a 6 Carrier + Fleet and something like 15 fighter wings.

>>175618562
Learning how to dodge salamanders is part of getting gud anon

Just wiggle your butt a bit as they approach if you're in one of the ships with a front shield and a small gap in the back

What's a nice load out for Dominator XIV and Onslaught XIV

Currently looking to upgrade my Ludd Brawler fleet
Honestly fucking try Ludd Brawlers, they're so fucking fast and tanky with Maulers, was blown away with it 1v1ing a Hyperion and winning.

Also is there any kind of list of what ships can spawn where? I've not seen a single Hyperion, Tempest, that other sensor frigate or Scarab for sale anywhere

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when you arent claiming bounties, the duzahk system is actually pretty beautiful

>>175663943
as a fucking retard who hates salamanders, thanks mate

>>175664462
salamanders are cancer
they do help distract the AI since they tend to prioritize shielding their engines

>>175664462
It'd not hard, but it's surely a chore

>>175664462
you're going to love the heatseekers from DME and BRDY

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heh

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Do you guys have any private mods or personal rules? I have one with a ship that self evolves, I can only use that one ship but it gets better as I kill shit in the game.

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>>175663745
>Onslaught XIV

>Capture one
>Spend 45 minutes wrecking shit up and having a blast in the simulator
>Shelve it in storage, never to use it again
:(

Anywei, here's mine:
Groups
>1: TPC; Maulers
>2: Gauss; HVDs (Auto)
>3: Flaks; Vulcans (Auto)
>4: Missiles (either Auto or Manual alternating)

>>175665026
Why not make it into a real mod

>>175664997
With good sensors, maybe you could search it all in 2 loops, no sustained burn.

>>175663745
>>175665165
Dominators are shite tho. Grab an Eagle/Aurora.

>>175664997
If you click the "In-System" window in the fleet log menu, it will show you exactly where the objective is located.

>>175665262
i ended up finding it without much trouble, at least it's better than this other one just described as "far reaches" that i never managed to find, even with the neutrino detector.

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>>175665259

Way too much effort, it's just a loose set of rules that I follow and when I achieve all the requirements I use console commands to upgrade my hull.

>>175665026
might as well use ExtraSystem if you´re into that

>>175665347
oh, interesting.

>+150 armor for damage reduction calculations only
>Maximum armor damage reduction from 85% to 90%
>-20% armor damage taken
>-20% kinetic damage taken by armor
>+50% armor for damage reduction calculations only

just how strong are all of these combined?

>>175636607
Nice shit, anon!

Maybe make the next one a tad bigger? The suits are almost as big as their carrier :v

Hammerhead with fully armoured front for ramming when

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>>175666117
Size is pretty tricky to do with something thats shaped so long it would seem, maybe make it a bit wider but I dunno yet.

>Hammerhead with fully armoured front for ramming when

it's actually planned for the next release when I have more free time to really work on it

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>>175665165
>>175665272
This is what I've come up with so far, my only gripe is how awfully slow it is

It beat a Paragon 3 times in sim while AI controlled when I was running Gauss/Hellbore but then I found these bad puppies so I can't wait to throw it out there.

I've got an Eagle XIV setup with maulers and ion beams and it does a wonderful job at pushing bigger ships shit in, not amazing at taking out frigates though

Never come across an Aurora

>>175665364
I hate that neutrino detector. None of those blips ever lead me to anything.

>>175666334
I actually might try a build that's all speed, flux and all angles firepower

>>175666000
That'd depend on how those things are calculated.
Best case scenario for... Let's take hellbore against onslaught, it'd deal... 421 dmg, with base 1500 (750x2 cuz HE).
The "maximum armor damage reduction" is useful against low-calibre guns, so IR lasers or some shit deals 15 dmg per second instead of 23.
Or vulcan has 50 dps instead of 75

>>175666958
For reference, hellbore without those modifiers would deal 692 dmg to onslaught's armour.

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>>175665272
>Dominators are shite tho.
someone's never used a safety overrides devastator cannon dominator

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How do I stop hoarding weapons

>>175667165
Why not more vents so your weapons fire generates no real flux? Keep those cannons firing forever.

>>175667483
You don't.

Just leave them in storage for when you need them.

>>175667558
until I unlock the heavy armor mod, I need to keep the shields up under heavy fire.

>>175666334
That thing is pretty close to goddamn unkillable.

>>175667483
>not putting them in storage and putting crew and marines in there to organize it and protect your weapons
how can you be this pleb

>>175666334
By using the forward facing mounts as anti-missile you're losing a shitton of forward firepower. Yeah those L side mounts look fancy, just wait until they all come online when you're attacked from the side and suddenly you're on the fritz for 15 seconds. They do you as much arm as damage seeing that they're probably on Auto and they're far from neutral flux (as in the flux they build up gets dissipated between each shot).

I think you're missing the point of the Onslaught, which is -nothing gets past you-. Because if it does, you're fucked. The contributing factors being your slow turn and your tiny shield and the helping factors being those 4 forward facing medium mounts with long range weapons with relatively low flux meaning you can fuck whatever's in front of you from a mile off before they can outmaneuver you. Everything that's not facing forward should be focused on anti-fighter or anti-missile.

Also, try removing all that armor and facing the paragon again. You're just making up for the fact that the Mjolnir doesn't have enough range for it even with the Core. All that is overkill in any other situation an that's 85 points that should be going into capacitors to help you not fritz.

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>>175667483
Why contain it?

>>175668210
I didn't even know weapons had stack size limits until now.

>>175667939
You need marines there to protect it?

>>175668404
no, it's just dumb roleplaying

>>175667165
>safety overrides
Painting your Citroen red doesn't make it a Ferrari, lol

>>175668404
>>175668420

What purpose does marine fill? There is no boarding anymore?

>>175668627
None right now

>>175668210
>1,370 crew in storage
Are they just milling about, sorting stuff and wasting time, or are they frozen in sleeper pods?

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>>175668471
what did he mean by this?

>>175668735
being NEETs

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I FOUND IT!

I FUCKING FINALLY FOUND IT!

Just to confirm - animated .pngs will work in this?

>>175668837
found what?

>>175668908
the mission objective

fuck outer reaches missions

>lone cryovolcanic world orbiting a pulsar
>scan it cause why not
>it's class 4

nice.
this game will be amazing when there's something to use surveying for other than selling the data though.

>>175668908
An exclamation mark, apparently.

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Anyone know how to recover your key? The key recovery link on the website isn't working.

>>175669019
do you still have the email from when you bought it?

>>175669019
Contact them by mail.
If you remember what email address you used they will resend code on it.

>>175669019
Its the third thread in the support section of the forum (can't post the link because "it's spam")

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tape_drive

Huh and when I was thinking that Cherrych 'tapes' as memory device was just relic of the past.

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GOT ME A MARLIN

>>175670257
nice

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>I didn't need those supplies anyways

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>>175670390
yeah, just wondering what I'm actually going to need it for.
>>175670639
sweating maintenance crews.jpg

>>175670257
Shiet, pretty much all I'm playing for now is to catch one of those. Going off to a nebula on a double bounty, one of whom is a tach deserter. Vishmiluk.

Someone explain to me how the game decides how many points worth of ships you can deploy? I know you can increase it by increasing battle size in the settings, but I'd just like to know exactly how it's being split between the two sides.

>>175670804
>sweating maintenance crews.jpg

This got me wondering. If you lot had a chance to leave whatever life you have behind for a space crew gig in Corvus under some random captain, would you do it?

On the one hand:
>Spess!
>spaceships!
>space battles!
>see new worlds!

On the other:
>spacewalks (those supplies aren't going to collect themselves)
>spaceship maintenance (yes, you'll be scrubbing the decks)
>space battles (well, SOME of the crew survive their ships being disabled)
>survey new worlds (yes, that means getting in your suit and going down to the surface of the tectonically active, high gravity, toxic, irradiated, volcanic world within inches of its parent star)

Hmm.

>>175670969
in ratio of the two fleets sizes

>>175670969
Between the size of the opposing fleets. Bigger fleet = more points.

>>175671401
No-one scrubs the deck. They'll have little robots for that.

I'd go for it as long as I could still play vidya on the ship computers during my downtime.

>>175671401
Can we mutiny?

>>175632263
Get a Dominator. I can literally solo 3 Moras casually with it.

>>175671685
Only salvage run with no industry.
Hardly I can get ship I want.
Anyway Hammerhead serve me surprisingly well.
Better than Sunder(that blow two times in three battles) or Falcons(D) that suffer heavy damage.

>>175671458
>>175671515
And one side can't be reduced to less than 80 deployment points.

>>175671850
Sunder is way better than Hammer my dude.
Sunder(D) and Hammer(D) are about equal.

>>175672012
Nah. Sunder D with 3 lances will destroy hammerhead, even without D mods. Hammerhead is a better AI ship.

>>175672012
Dunno.
This Hammer serve me well under AI command. Literally last ship standing on many battles. On the other hand Sunder not so well. Not mention that I have only pulse and mining lasers to arm him.

Whats the best officer personality for carriers? Steady or cautious?

>>175672116
Not when the Hammer is running Hypervelocity Drivers. But we're talking about end game elite weapons on destroyers that you find in the tutorial.

>he doesn't put safety overrides on a sunder and give it 3 mining blasters
explain yourselves