Wargames General /wgg/

>>175273185
How is storm of steel?

>>175273571
I'm only halfway through it, but it's good. Kinda feels like I'm reading All Quiet on the Western Front again, which I guess means that All Quiet is accurate.

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Operational Art of War 3

Is it any good ?
Sheer amount of scenarios in various periods make me very anxious to try it..

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Stop playing WWII games

>>175274534
The discords chill as fuck.
I hate discord and that one actually has interesting people who actually have intersting discussions. Are you that buttblasted anime shitter?

>>175274534
It was a quick copy paste job desu

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ahah animemefags btfo

>>175274390

TOAW4 is coming soonish afaik.

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>>175274805
>Anime is tasteless
He's not wrong.

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>>175274805
I wonder who could have it in for the Discord

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To the anon who wanted a Flashpoint Campaigns torrent

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0762D77D182F788A0EADA354C14D4D461242A9D0&dn=Flashpoint_Campaigns_Red_Storm&tr=http%3a%2f%2fbt.t-ru.org%2fann&tr=http%3a%2f%2fretracker.local%2fannounce

Unfortunately it doesn't include the big update and DLC, but still should be fun.

>>175275348
Thank you based jesus.
Any source on CMANO 1.11 or newer version than 1.0 im stuck with ?

>>175274712
You can chill in your fucking discord and circlejerk the shit out of eachother but don't bring it here. This place is anonymous for a reason which is something you redditfags seem to not understand.

To the Anon who linked a mega install of RTW it had a keylogger in it.

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>>175274805
wtf I love discord now?

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I used to be in here back in the days of ALB and RD release. Haven't been playing since before Netherlands and other DLC hit. Everyone seems to hate Red Dragon in the previous thread while I remember it as Airland Battle with just more factions and units just fucking ignored naval bullshit. What happened? Did they fuck it all up in subsequent patching? I was thinking of getting Yugoslavs and getting back into it.

>>175275531

According to the slavs you should be able to download the patch off of the official site here and install it using the crack for the base game

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/483/downloads/

>>175275908
We don't hate RD, or at least I don't. I just got tired of it.

But fuck if Eugen didn't fire up the ole' pay-to-win model with those DLCs.

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>>175275561
>Anime fag is still buttblasted that his anime circle jerk discord got shit on after he threw his tendies
Anime is a disease.

>>175275908

It's not the balance I hate, it's the fact that Eugen made it possible to check people's W/L ratios, which means you have teamstacking that's worse than before.

>>175276298
you mean it revealed the teamstacking that was always present?

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Friendly reminder that Madmat has played Steel Division for 30 hours

>>175275908
scrubs found a new, simplified game to latch on to.

>>175276298
but stats make teamstacking easy to identify?

>>175275957
Oh ok.

>>175276445
>but stats make teamstacking easy to identify?
Not really, you could pad them with losses very easily. All that happened was teamstacks kicked competent players that joined their game.

There is literally nothing wrong with discord and anime.

>>175276434
friendly reminder that devs use alt accounts and play the game at work

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>combat mission devs will never ever stop being ultrakikes and jewin' their niche playerbase instead of moving to steam and acquiring shittons of new players

If I wanted to get into War in the East without prior wargame strategic level experience - is this a shit idea / are there babbymode stepping-stone games / should I just go for it?

Most of what I've played previously have been tactics based, not strategy (MOW, graviteam).

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>>175276434
Still better than those "reviewers" that gave Rome Total War 2 10/10's and haven't played for more than 2 hours or haven't won single battle.

>>175276298
Sure, but this was key so you don't end up with a team of absolute shitters as well.

>>175276848
Stop being logical.

>>175276848
>be me
>would buy the shit out of their games
>don't because I really can't be bothered dealing with non-steam bullshit
They're really jewing themselves here. I'm sure the lost revenue from steam would be 10x covered by new players.

>>175276972
Please don't remind me. I preordered that pile of shit. I thought it was going to be the successor. I imagined the polish of Shogun 2. My biggest ever waste of 80$.

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>>175276848
> Fucking hate Battlefront.com but they make pretty decent games
> Always enjoy Ostfront and modern stuff more than Western front, just personal preference
> Decide to buy Black Sea and Red Thunder for 50 dollars each because shit I will have fun with this
> Red Thunder is really bare bones and doesn't even have the fucking SS in game yet
> Black Sea is great with 3 factions but you would think that they would make some more DLC for this because shit it's topical as all hell and like Shock Force but not terribly lopsided
> They just keep churning out Western front shit over and over again. Vehicle pack for Normandy, new expansion for Italy, completely new game for Ardennes
> DLC for Red Thunder and Black Sea literally never

What the FUCK is wrong with them

>>175277234
They're greeedy shallow fucking cunts stuck in their tiny little echo chamber they call "forums" populated by stockholm-syndrome mental patients

>>175276848
I think they'd have to declunkify their games and change their business model to not charge for literally everything. They're happier fucking your dad and his friends over for their hard earned cash.

>>175276927
there are a good amount of small to medium sized scenarios that can easily be managed by someone new. The main draw of WitE is the Grand Campaign though, and that is a fucking gigantic beast with all the units you have to manage from 1941-1945.

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>Having an anime profile pic and having at least 10 pictures of little anime girls should be a warcrime
Prove me wrong.

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>>175277512
>Having an anime profile pic should be a crime

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Alright lads, once more for old times sake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTV92wqYjfA

>>175277756
It should yes.
It's about as bad as being a cuck.

>>175277836
I accidentally a meme arrow

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>>175277803

>>175277478
>there are a good amount of small to medium sized scenarios
That's reassuring to hear, thanks. Yeah, the grand campaign is where I'd like to end up, but I could see myself getting overwhelmed with the complexity and scale off the start. Guess I'll pick it up then though.

Reddit vs /wgg/ Steel Division when?

>>175278627
why bother we already know the outcome

>>175277803
>TFW you have the east german Flag covering your bookcase

>>175278714
It's ok, I'll make it interesting :^)

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>reach a few hundred hours in multiplayer
>realize you never played a match of single player
>start a campaign
>very cool intro, cool campaign map
>spend 15 minutes choosing the best sectors to put the best units in
>battle time
>enemy arty knows the perfect positions of my guys
>have a very good recon heli up in the air
>nothing exists that could spot me
>AI zergs me and my guys literally run out of rockets for all their vehicles
>after steamrolling my defenses, which can halt a real player in MP for a considerable amount due to the unit spam, the AI seems to 'know' exactly where my CV is and they rush towards it
>exit

I forgot how shitty the campaign experience was.

>>175278627
When the game is released.

>>175278627
I'm sure there are reddit in-houses already

>>175276848
It's for the best, I don't want to know how many hours I have in their games.

>>175280061
>reddit
>playing in-house
Back in RD they only ever played stacks, too high a chance you'll lose playing a balanced in-house.

>>175278627
>>175279105
/wgg/ as Allies because only redditors play as krauts. You cannot deny this.

>>175280993
>/wgg/ plays obscure allies like the Poles, French & Canadians exclusively
>destroys the cream of the evil nazis

I'd watch.

>>175281124
>Poles, French & Canadians
>obscure Allies

Nigguh wut ?
Obscure is shit like Turkey, Brazil or South Africa.

>>175281302
>Hearing of Canada before steel division

>>175281350
Maybe if you are some historical illiterate..

>>175281428
Anon. I didn't know Canada existed before steel division.

What an obscure little country it is.

>>175277512
>>175277756
>>175277836
>>175277873
r/SteelDivision is that way

>hysterically wingeing like women about anime on 4chan in spite of the thread topic

>>175282112
FOW (Fuck off Weeb)

>>175282112
With any luck, one day someone will create a FOXDIE-style virus that will kill all the weebs. The world could be a slightly better place.

>>175275908

Yugoslavia is fucking amazing. Entente (Yugo+Czech) I'd unironically the best redfor deck

RD has enough players to find games every night.

>>175282112
>He likes little girls screaming in Chinese cartoons
Just so your aware normal people who come to this thread don't, because they aren't faggots. Anime fags are littrally as bad as furrys and 90% are white dudes over 20. It's honestly pathetic. Fuckoff back to you continent board on /a/ or wherever you retards hang out at.

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>America might not have the best divisions in Normandy
>Despite being the only ones to break out in a timely manner

What did Eugen mean by this?

>>175283073
I though other divisions had much lighter landings and a much easier time. My history might be rusty though.

Dear Combat Mission Friends,

How are your campaigns coming along?

Love

Anon

>>175283014
>>175282583
>>175282186
stop shitting up the thread with your samefaggotry, immigrant

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>>175283838
What did he mean by this

>>175283073
>Americans
Spent months to slog through Hedgegrow Hell/St Lo against the 3rd Fallchimjager and a handful of half-dead infantry divisions.

>Brits, Poles and Canadians
Faced off over open territory against the best German panzer divisions this side of the Vistula River.

>>175284253
>Americans
>have the army specifically trained and equipped for speed and manouver
>get stuck in rough terrain that cancels any of their advantages and where bunch of half brained retards could defend itself against such army for a fuckoff a long time
>60 years later some faggot on mongolian basket weaving board thinks they were bad soldiers

Wew lad.

>>175282656
>Yugoslavia is fucking OP
ftfy

>>175283206
Once we got off the beachhead we were able to relatively advance quicker than any other nation in normandy. Hell we took half of France while Monty was still bogged down around Cean

>>175284532
Idk faggot, you're the one saying the Commonwealth soldiers were the shitters here.

>>175284847
>you're the one saying

I just came to the thread you dense retard.

>>175284697
>we

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>>175284687
>>175282656

What is OP about Yugoslavs exactly? I heard Matzo eaters got a Spike ATGM in a recon squad, but what could Tito get to become OP? It seemed like to me they had even less technology than DDR.

>>175283073
It's not hard to break out when you've got almost nothing facing you. Not shitting on americans either but that was the new plan anyway.

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>>175285037
Tito has a 100pt heavy recon tank with stealth technology, and the ability to shoot down fucking everything with SAMs and planes

>>175284979
I'm american, what's your point?

>>175285037
i love their tanks and and air defence. they also have the rocketbuggy from C&C generals

jews had the maglan dominating for quite a while until they nerfed the squad size and stealth after fireing their ATGM

>>175285037
You think they would but:
>T-55s and M-84s (upgraded T-72s) have great accuracy (60%+ for most cases), the most durable and capable variants of their kind
>Insane non-RAD AA (being NEWAs and Gophers), and other RAD SAMs with great accuracy that can establish a brutal ADN
>Shock troops get time travelling 112mm AT launcher, one of their transports are death dealing M113 clones with recoilless rifles
>Other good infantry choices, lots of spam
>Killer recce M-84 with cloaking technology
>Decent Mi-8/Gazelle gunship loadouts
>Air tab easily has some of the best ASFs and CAS options in the game
They're obviously one of the better Red factions since most of their units can actually hit things, and have premium pricing. They're also paid DLC, so naturally they will be good.

>>175276972

>rome 2 release

just kill me now the pain is too real

Would anyone be willing to take on a couple games against me? I'm mostly immigrating from CoH/CoH2, so I have a vague idea of what things should do but I'd like to get someone who knows what they're doing to provide some feedback. Or could I upload replays somewhere? Like a database? Or is that a CoH thing?

>>175287313
>>175276972

The Divide et Impera mod for Rome 2 actually does a very good job of salvaging the original product, if you're ok with realism autism and I mean this is fucking Wargames general so of course you are.

>>175278627
what's there to prove? The two reddits are already taken over.

A further 10v10 will just be #ANZ removing anti-weebs.

>>175287619
Go to the teamspeak in the OP.
I'm pretty sure people are playing right now and everyone there is really helpful. They helped me get gud.

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>>175287727
>tfw AE never ever

>>175287727
>The Divide et Impera mod for Rome 2 actually does a very good job of salvaging the original product,

You cant salvage something written on that shitty engine.

>>175287943
>overcome my crippling social anxiety and talk to real human beings over a microphone
OR
>sit in comfy chair with no human contact and wait for death

Does anyone else wish there were names for some of the more obvious locations on the maps? Villages, hills, major crossroads, etc.

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>>175288893

Villages will have names in the final game, in the singleplayer at least

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>Graviteam
>load up a scenario
>enemy forces have ~6 Matildas, and ~10 Valentine tanks against my nothing (literally nothing, everyone with 1/4 ammo) with a couple of tigers 6 turns away
>load up Russian perspective
>only get two Matildas, no fuel, against a significantly stronger Germany than that I was just controlling
>basically, a completely difference scenario
pleashee send helb

i am too shit for this scenarios

>>175289205
Defend the motherland, comrade.

>>175288412
Death right?

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>>175289205
Taranovka encirclelment breakout? You should have one Pak 40 that is able to take out both Matlidas and Valentines so take good care about it and try to reserve some of your supplies for it. Nevertheless it won't be enough so prepare for a lot of maneuvering, you have to choose your battles. Use forests to hide and move your platoons, attack enemies where soviets don't have armored support. You main mission is to push west and secure your position until SS LSAH comes to help you (which happens ~ turn 5). They may take different approaches but they should attack with Tigers which should relieve a lot of pressure from you. The beauty of this game is that you have to do exactly what you would have done in real life situation, and you will succeed (which also means that if you see a tank squad rolling over your positions and you have no AT weapons, you should just hide and save your life). Good luck Her General.

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>>175291418
Please.

>>175292551
Not him but you got any tips on defending? I find most of the time my units are defending to the death.

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>>175293198
>defending to the death.
as they should

>>175274534
>>175275561
Teamspeak is literally just as bad as discord

If you remove one, remove them both

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Question about CMANO.

Does this game simulate any kind of ground combat, ship boarding and suicide attacks ??
I thinking of making an Attack on Guantanamo scenario with terrorists trying to ram the base and detonate nuke using a civilian vessel and hiding in civilian traffic.

>>175292551
Thanks for the tips, I'll try re-roll and have another shot like you explained. Sounds like "avoid the tanks unless absolutely necessary until the Tigers arrive" is the going mantra. I did notice the heavily weighted points in the left of the map - so I can definitely see where your advice comes from.

With supply for infantry units - if I lock half the platoon, and put priority on the other half, it should give enough ammo to get everyone up to ~60%, right? I'm assuming that's how resupply works, and that they'll distribute ammo throughout the platoon.

>>175293198
I think if there's a command element near-by, they fight to the death and won't surrender. Can't be 100%, but I think that's the general rule. Troops like SS tend to just keep fighting regardless due to training and generally better morale, but if you kill a "dismal" morale units leader, they're liable to freak out.

>>175293198
If you defend only against infantry - dig trenches. Unit that has not moved for 2 turns can use this ability during deploy phase. Entrenched infantry will massacre platoons charging at them with no additional support, especially if you play as Germany. Take your time during deploy phase and place your units in areas that provide good camouflage and set them to ambush mode. Take a look about the depressions and elevations of a terrain to make sure your units have a good line of sight on area in front of them. Sometimes from above it might seem like they have a clear view but if you use their camera you will see they have restriced LOS, which means enemies can crawl close and toss granades at you. If you defend against vechicles you need to have some counters. Any sort of anti-tank rifles will do well against APC's but for tanks you will need canons with sufficient penetration (unless you catch them by suprise with hatches open). Direct arty hit can also burn an APC on the spot and sometimes detrack a tank.

>>175294579
Not really. There are civilian vessels and you could use them as a screen but I don't think there are dirty bombs in CMANO. Maybe there's some community-made stuff buried on their forums somewhere.

>all this butthurt over VOIP's
Let me rock y'all's world. If you don't like them or the people that frequent them....... Don't use them and ignore it.... Does it really make your sperg that hard that it's in your precious OP? The people crying are the ones causing drama.

>>175294817
Well there are nukes in weapons menu and "use nuclear weapons" ROE menu ..

What about ground combat/ship boarding ?

I had evisioned a huge scenario where you would have to board and identify terrorist boats and watch not to kill any of the civlian ships to not risk international scandal.

>>175288412
Tbh the people there are as autstic as I presume you are.

>>175295927
Problem is that it isn't even a 4chan discord but a reddit one.
>people posting reddit threads
>people announcing which posts are theirs on the thread
it's kinda obvious that it doesn't belong here.

>>175296593
Why would you lie?

Oh right you're the weeb trying to start shit.

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>>175296704
lol

>>175296889
>greg
>a subhuman naziboo
he also posts in this thread as a anon too

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>>175296704
>>175296995

>>175297149
Howling

it's more than one person doing this you dumb weeb

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>>175297149
now this one i'm not sure you mean by this

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>Shitcord are blaming anime for the shitposting problems
Fuck off back to /simg/ if you hate anime

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>>175293198
To add onto >>175294805 (they generally cover most of it), if you're up against tanks without any real counters, try leverage ditches and the like to your favor. They're extremely useful. Don't be afraid to give territory if it means you get a better battle location. A defense on an indefensible point is worse than giving the point and having a workable defense elsewhere.

Picture related generally shows how I dispatched 3 tanks (1 KV-1, 2 T-34) without many more losses than just one engineer platoon absolutely destroyed, and a much lower artillery reserve. My overall infantry losses were actually comparable to the enemies, and my non-engineer platoons were relatively unscathed.

Basically, given a map where I was up against tanks with few counters against them, I hemmed myself into the one corner I had with a gully (meant the enemy tanks had to get very close for firing angle), set up engineers and one infantry platoon on one side of the gully, and a few more infantry platoons further up it with my single Pak-38 in support. Artillery spotters were in the trees and remained silent.

One tank rolled up with a platoon of infantry through the (now flattened) forest. I flanked the infantry with one of my platoons in the gully, shelled them with everything I had, and made a dash over open ground from two directions with engineers to dispatch 1x T-34 with satchels once inf support was dead. Few losses.

Next two tanks moved up with similar infantry support. Shelled the infantry and bided my time taking losses until the tank got within charging distance. They actually came right into my gully, so I was able to get them. Basically though, the terrain use meant they had to get close enough that I could charge.

Due to lost territory, it gave me a slight loss overall, but I treat it as a victory. Had I tried the open field, it'd have been a bloodbath. One engineer platoon for 3 tanks and a similar number of dead infantry to their own losses is victory in my eyes.

>>175297368
>>175297149
>>175296889
>>175296593
samefag

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>Greg
>Reddit
Hahahahahaha you've got to be kidding me. Have you ever met Greg?

>>175295940
CMANO doesn't get down to the tactical level like that, and it's focus is on air/naval. It's a pretty flexible game but it's based off a system the Navy uses to wargame scenarios so the focus is on mostly conventional engagements.

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>>175297570
nice one greggy boy

Why is everyone so bad at Steel Division?

Every game ends up pushing the enemy to spawn

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>>175297964
I'm craig.

>>175294750
There is some distribution of ammo between the squads of a platoon but not too much. If you lock a squad out from supply he will in practice not get it. This is useful thing because if you have a Platoon with Pak40, and two Pak 38 squads you can lock 38's and keep the 40 operational. In Taranovka your supplies are pretty limited, you start mostly with 33% of ammo all across your forces and with only 10 crates in Northern and 10 in southern depot. Until the end of a campaing majority of your forces will run dry on ammo.

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lol

Which under 10k T8 should I trade in my 8.8 for?

>>175299726
Wrong thread, but question still stands.

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>commies and weebs getting removed

>>175299618
On ru <1500 yellow

>>175298989
Why don't you just join the other discord?

>>175300876
Because the other discord is his, and he's alone there

>/wgg/ already getting ruined by ts/discord drama fags

Jesus fucking christ how many threads must be destroyed by this fucking garbage. Do you really fucking crave for attention that fucking hard? There is a site you might enjoy if that's the case, its called Reddit. It lets you make a username so everyone knows it was you that made your super ebin funny shitposts. You even get upvoted for it so everyone knows how cool and popular you are! And its free!

Seriously, you fucking cancerous braindead degenerate retards are the reason /simg/ died, and it will be the reason this thread becomes unbearable as well. Just fuck off with the name fagging and discord screen caps.

Now I see why moot thinks /vg/ was a fucking mistake. Its a place for redditors who like to fit in by saying they hate reddit larp as redditors.

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>>175303868
Calm down you idiot. It's one guy shitposting.

This image triggers wehraboos

>>175303868
>/simg/ died
It was arguably never alive in the first place, thanks to those retards.

>>175287103

Fucking this.

>All higher point tanks have Abrams levels of accuracy and stabilizers
>Recon M-84 can consistently beat tanks way out of its league by always getting a couple of shots off first
>10 point troop transports that have 2 MG's and 2 recoil-less rifiles
>BMP clone with a 4 AP power auto cannon that literally rips and tears the ass of any other shitty transport in half a second
>Special Forces with a fast 1050M 26 AP power Eryx ATGM who's icon is unironically the "remove kebab" guy
>Non-Radar Newa SAM which is the best SAM in the game imo.
>Long Range MRLS system that fires fast as fuck, has great off road speed, and can launch smoke which puts up a fuck huge wall in one burst
>45 point Gazelles that carry 4 24AP ATGM's that are actually good because its cheap and fast as fuck and also carries two Igla's
>Two good ASF's with one of them being Yugoslavia's planned indegenous 4th gen fighter, the Nova Avion
>A Super Galeb which is so good at elite it should be illegal (130 points, 30AP power ATGM's that guarantee to rape literally any super heavy in one pass)

Their only weakness's are solved by playing as Entente and getting a dose of Czechnology.
That way you can get the Konkurs-M for your long range ATGM
Strop-2 for what is in my opinion the best anti-heli SPAAG in the game (60 points for 2800m range, incredibly fast off road speed, good availability)
And an Su-7 for SEAD, although that one kind of sucks because its one missile but its super cheap and usually gets the job done.

All in all it sorta pisses me off how good Yugo is since USSR should be the cream of the crop IMO but DLC will do that to you I guess.

>>175295927
VOIPs are dangerous things. They can really hurt a general if things get out of control
>t. /r6g/

>>175287854
>reddit team will be full of oldfags and ex-wgg players
>4chan team will be full of newfags that /pol/ brought over
epic

>>175307570
But the people who got into SD because of muh nazis SS are all fucking abysmal

>>175307570
Reddit team will be full of dipshits.
4chan team will be full of dipshits who has so much spare time they can afford to get good at games.

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>>175303868
Despite /simg/ fags being in the group it really hasn't been them namedropping at all, it's some assblasted weeb
Apparently we aren't hardcore enough for him and someone said reddit once in chat so now we're all redditors or some shit

Circlejerking is not a wargame.

>>175303868
I keep seeing people respond to anonymous posts with names, which makes me feel like they are sitting in a chat pointing each other's posts out, or are so fucking retarded they try to guess which posts are made by someone they know by name.

Either of which is disgusting.

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Two Mius Front questions:

1. Is there a way to reset movement orders like 'Assault' or 'Recon' back to default settings after you messed with them?

2. What do the square boxes on the unit cards mean? Pictured here three filled ones and two greyed out ones.

>>175307687
Played a 10v10 today as the allies for the first time, our team wasn't even doing terrible well at first and we still won. Not even their nebels could save them since they never followed it up.

>>175308964
I think they indicate communications.

>>175309000
People complain they always lose, and yet always play really defensively

>>175307570
>>175308315
Look at this thread and tell me there's a difference between reddit and 4chan

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>>175309405
I'm doing quite well in SD so far friend

>>175310413
Pubstomping isn't hard you nigger.

>>175311298
Not that anon, but I'm clinically retarded and would kill to be even competent at this game. I guess I'm the type of person he's pubstomping...

>>175311298
Pubstomping is literally just playing the game online you double nigger

>>175311528
Lol how about you play against good players then? I'd love to see you get 73% winrate in competetive when it comes out, oh wait you're too much of a pussy to do 1v1

>>175312049
You're not achieving anything by shit talking me really so I don't give a fuck

>>175312265
He achieved baiting the fuck out of your stupid ass and he also inflamed your ass hole

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>>175312342
okay

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>Tfw no Guards Armoured Division yet

Feels bad mang.

>>175308328
>it totally isn't us shitting up the thread we swear, even though we are even more cancerous than /gsg/

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>>175312731
Honestly cant wait.

>>175308964
Been wondering the same about those boxes but I'm too lazy to check.

>game isn't even out yet
>threads already devolving into namefag discord drama

ayyy lmoa

>>175314507
Quality contribution to the thread lad.


Does anyone think the meta will ever shift away from being overly aggressive?

>>175314703
Not in conquest. People already play pretty cautious in Destruction.

>>175315042
Good desu. It's more fun playing SD conquest than Wargame conquest purely because of how aggressive you're allowed to be

>>175315167
more like have to because then if you let the axis amass a undeadable panther blob then your fucked

>>175315717
Even as Axis I very rarely use the Panthers, and I pretty much only play 12th when I play axis.

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This one thing could have saved Red Dragons Naval

I'd would play naval maps literally just so I could use this. Honestly surprised they didn't include it since they LOVE prototypes and memes over at Eugen

Does anyone know the specifics of how manual fallback works in SD? I know the units retreat but do they just retreat away from the nearest enemy? Towards the nearest friendly? Do they retreat towards command units?

>>175317841
They usually retreat just away from the nearest enemy I think.

I've seen some units retreat in retarded directions

>have to wait until Wednesday for d2 divs and one map
>will have to wait two more weeks after that for more content

>>175313701
What'll they be like?

>>175318139
Where do people go to follow the dev roadmap?

>>175318475
There is no road map. We're all just part of the Eugen hivemind by now.

>>175318346
Cromwells, Stuart VIs, Sherman Vs, Fireflies, Crusader AAs, Sherman OPs, Achilles + Wolverines. There should be Cromwells & Stuarts in A as they were in Recce formations.

They should have both Lorried (Bedfords) and Motorised (M5, M9, M3 Scout Car) infantry. 6 Pounders, 17pdrs, Vickers MGs. The usual British infantry loadout.

3 Inch Mortars, 4.2 inch Mortars, 25pdrs, 40mm Bofors maybe Sextons.

Guards should have Staghounds (+AA), Daimlers, Dingos & AEC III's for armoured cars. Probably won't be seeing stuff like the Humber in A.

The Guards should have access to almost everything the Brits deployed as they received the best equipment.

That is if Eugen does it right... which they won't

>>175320275
Oh and they might get an A30 early on since they were also part of Recce formations.

>>175275738
Of course it did. Serves the pirates right.

>>175275738
proof

>playing Robz
>somebody with no gaems played joins
>host asks if its his first game
>"no way I have played this game lots this is just my friends account haha"
>.1 hours played

>>175326345
how dare you check stats!

>>175326345
>playing RobZ

Disgusting

>>175327730
he proceeded to charge tigers with hordes of bazooka infantry across a river

>>175328921
>he proceeded to charge tigers with hordes of bazooka infantry
Well I mean
>across a river
Haha ok

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>tfw play too much Yugoslavia and forget to turn off SAMs when I play other nations

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>>175328921
At least he wasn't charging Tigers into bazooka infantry.

>>175318139
Will they trickle in the divisions slowly over the beta or are we going to end up with like 9, and the other 9 we get at release?

How do I kill the AVRE when my ATGs bounce off it all the time

>>175332319
get closer, bomb it until it runs away, AT infantry
>>175331117
just want my 101st ;_;

>get into a nice men of war game
>crashes mid fight
EVERY FUCKING TIME

FUCK ROBZ

>>175335320
Robz is potato kruppstahl circle jerk. Vanilla is much better balanced for skillful play.

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>>175335835
>skillful play

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A bunch of kawaii uguu anime girls would be better shots than the tank crews I've been stuck with

>>175335835
>get 20mm
>dont let it die
>win
so skillful

>>175337528
>>175336012
>I am bad at competitive games.

>>175339064
What do competitive games have to do with the current conversation

>>175339064
>tfw actually bad at competitive games
NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT'S LIKE
TO BE THE BAD MAN
TO BE THE SAD MAN

>>175335835
true

>>175339186
If you think RobZ is more skillful and balanced you're a crazy person, if you are having trouble with 20mm guns you're just plain bad.

20mm gun are only a counter to dumb infantry spam and elite troops.

>>175277234
They released a Battle Pack for Black Sea on tuesday. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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>Want to play graviteam
>Can wrap my head around how to actually play it

I know i'd really enjoy the game but for some reason just can't learn it.

What are the best videos for learning it?

>>175283073

Most of the hardened German divisions were defending Caen because they thought the plan was to secure Caen and beeline for Paris.

Monty was also the slow but steady type.

>>175342000
To be honest, I kind of learned through steam comments/guides then checked some videos to learn how to deploy, attack and defend.

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>five days off work
>CMANO 1.11 Game of the Year Edition installing right now

I will fucking learn how to play it or i will die trying O!

>>175339064
>>175340458
Yea elite infantry tanking bullets is real competitive. Vanilla Mowas is a straight arcade RTS. At least Robz makes the game have realistic traits.

>>175343463
Shot somebody twice and he didnt die in Robz, checkmate

>>175343231
I'm going to bed, but if you're around tomorrow or Sunday I for one can help.

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>>175343723
Sounds like robz is a little too hard for someone.
You should take up something a little easier.

>>175343231
Reminder that you can install the updates with the cracked installer as long as you keep the same key.

My Kills/Deaths are always worse whenever I play Scots, whether I win or lose.

That normal or am I a bad Scotsman

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Any suggestions on my 3rd Armored deck?

>>175348894
Play Indianhead instead

>>175348894
Is it actually your deck or did you steal it from Reddit?

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Alright help me out /wgg/. I'm playing the Cry Havoc! scenario in Combat Mission Black Sea. The scenario needs me to capture three small villages and some checkpoints with a company of men, a tank platoon, two batteries of off map howtzers, and a unit of off map mortars. I can't even figure out how to approach the first objective. If I move my bradleys up, they get taken out by an ATGM or rocket I couldn't even see. If I move my infantry up as a screen, they get blown up. What am I supposed to do? A small woodline is in between the village and my bradleys, but my units get fucked up before even that happens.

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>>175351316

Shell the village.

>>175351316
literally >>175351543

Napalm that shit. No survivors.

t. user of that tactic in all games

>>175335835
the biggest thing about Robz is how much of a campfest it is

and crazy HEAT rounds on high caliber howitzer guns

>>175351895
If people camp you in robz just mortar them or shoot a siege gun at their line.
If your playing american buy a croc and drive up to the enemy lines and flame EVERYTHING.

>>175342160
>Monty was also the slow but steady type.
what is Market Garden?

>>175352110
a failure

>>175351543
>>175351837
to elaborate on what these guys are saying, advance under cover of the shelling. use smoke. fire on suspected atgm points. take your time.

watch this series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ6dDlqye9Q

>>175352110

you'll notice that was a complete fuck-up.

In Normandy he repeatedly said that the plan was for the brits and canadians to pin down as many divisions as possible around caen to give the Americans the maximum opportunity to break out.

What allied divisions get good tanks?
or is it wrong year

>>175352909
Canadians

>>175352029
>your

>>175352909
Guards Armoured

For singleplayer, am I better getting airland battle, EE, or RD?

I heard EE's single-player was kind of fucked by (now dead) multiplayer balance leaking over.

>>175352909
1st Polish Armored

Does anyone happen to know how to change the game's language in GT: Mius-Front using the download link from the OP?

>>175354467

The SP in RD isn't that bad to be honest.

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>>175352208
>>175351543
the arty doesn't seem to even faze the T90s hiding inside the village

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>>175354467
EE has actual single player missions in a loose narrative structure with objectives 'n sheit.

ALB has some rather messy dynamic campaigns that are not really worth playing. But you CAN play them PvP, which is the main redeeming feature

RD has a much more polished set of dynamic campaigns, some people like them but personally I can't stand them as at the end of the day they're just a bunch of destruction game mode AI skirmishes with only the most threadbare of narrative.

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>It's another hedgerow episode

>>175354467
EE singleplayer is perfectly playable. The multiplayer thing affects a small handful of the secondary objectives. They're still beatable, you just have to be very good [admittedly you won't be as a noob], and they're perfectly optional. RD has entire campaigns with that level of difficulty.

EE is better by far, it's got cool cutscenes, scripted missions, great atmosphere.

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Does anybody have a working pirate version of AGEOD's Thirty Years War? All those I can find don't work.
Does it even exist?

>>175355779
Rumor has it that the leaders and their people are now embracing one another and speaking only of peace. They used us like pawns, and they think they can blot that out with a few signatures...

My family was in Kaliningrad when the bomb fell. They were not eligible for a place in the bunkers with all the Party big shots. Now I know they are gone. I hold our leaders as much responsible for that as the cowboy in the White House, and I intend to make them all pay.

But for that I need to form an army. An army of my own.

>>175354852
nvm just had to change "loc_rus" into "loc_eng" somewhere in root\programs.flatdata

>>175355107
because arty wont faze tanks unless its lucky or you use precision munitions on spotted tanks. try to mitigate their vision by using smoke or by outmaneuvering them. all of your vehicles have smoke dischargers too.

most importantly, gain fire superiority by utilising your assets. theres a fuckton of firepower at your disposal in a brad platoon but ultimately if youre putting them up to face tanks you wont get jackshit done. i'm by no means a great commander, but ill boot up cmbs and post a DAR of the scenario youre playing in the thread if youd like

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>Phase A Firefly

>>175357649
I've never seen it be used effectively. It'll probably be better against armoured divisions like 2db or GAD, but against infantry it's rather useless

Any suggestion for a good wargame set before 1700, /wgg/?

>>175358257
Preferably a long-form one, not something like PIie & Shot or Sengoku Jidai.

>>175356005
Are you not able to just use a steam version? It doesn't even use steam if you go through the launcher like the rest of their games.

>>175358553
And how would I get one, outside of Steam?

>>175358747
Well I own it, I've got an complete ass upload speed though.

>>175357649
Britbongs will spam that shit Phase B when they get their armored divisions added to the game

>>175358993
Your call, then.

>>175358208
yeah, its role is basically shutting down vehicle usage in phase A. which means, of course, that it absolutely shits on 3AD, more so than usual. probably would be a good pick in a 12SS mirror, too.

I have seen plenty of games where the thing survived well into phase B, locked down open ground for that entire time, and easily made its points back. but yeah, it's not nearly as useful in 1v1s and against anyone who's just going to be buying truck infantry and AT guns in A.

>>175359239
>>175357649
If you're against Indianhead or Scots its pretty worthless honestly.

>>175359605
This, I can't believe the number of 12th & 17th SS players who gimp themselves by sinking so many points into such big units early on.

Half the time they're not even aggressive with it, they just sit 300m behind their lines while a horde of angry Scots attack across a huge front everywhere where the tank isn't.

>>175356005

There was an AGEOD bundle including TYW for like 2€ or something a few months ago, you fucked up.

For luftlande should I fit in phase A Fk39 card to be used as extra AT gun if necessary?
is the pak 36 dildo launcher even usable?

>>175357649
Just wait for phase A Achilles.

>>175360021
>For luftlande should I fit in phase A Fk39 card to be used as extra AT gun if necessary?

No, it's a terrible AT gun, look at that accuracy and rof.
Pak 36 is a hidden gem, it murders halftrack spam with that rof. The dildo launcher is just an added bonus.

>>175359959
I tried the 12th SS, couldn't even use my tanks because of the AT threat. Of course that's what it looked like to me, found out in the replay it was mostly empty ground. Put the firefly to use early on to deny the road but that was it.

>>175359239
has the AT ability of a towed gun but none of the ap immunity/cost-efficiency
it's not vulnerable to arty/bomber but who cares in phase A

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How's my deck boys.

t. beginner

>>175360354
>mfw 12 SS on Omaha
That map is incredibly tank unfriendly with AT infantry hiding in bushes

>>175360676
I'd drop the Jeep .50s and grab more M10s instead,

>>175360676
Do you really need that much infantry in phase A

>Jeep .50
Have you actually found that thing useful?

>>175361041
got it, ty my man

>>175361065
actually yes, maybe i'm just an advanced form of shitter so shit that my shit is a strength, but the jeep has been good in early stages to hold things down.

>>175360728
Omaha and Pointe du Hoc needs way more recon than Colombelles because of all those fucking hedgerows

>Scrub player tosses his Shermans to Panthers like feeding raw meat to real Big Cats
>Does nothing tactically, no AA net, nothing to change his situation
>Rage quits ranting "Panthers IMBA"
>Causes our Center to collapse and what was a major Victory had to be saved as a draw.

At least I got to watch Wolverines and Challengers wreck the German armor.

>>175360728
I've had a lot of success with 3AD on Omaha, if anything it protects your tanks from the longer range German guns

>>175360103
Who's getting those?

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>>175361782

>>175362029
Poland can into tanks!

>>175362095
>Achilles
>Tank

>>175362581
Poland can into destroying tanks!

>>175362581
But it does put things into tanks.

>ARVE vs Churchill V
I usually get one of them in the initial deployment, and pick another one up in Phase A. In which situations would it be better to pick one over the other?

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>>175362095
>no early war tanks

Maybe with 1938 mod

>>175363430
when 600 range isnt enough

>>175363430
Can they actually kill tanks? I swear I've lost tanks before to those support tanks

>>175363430
Use ARVE in areas with lots of cover and where you expect to fight in closer ranges. Open area use the Churchill V's range to its advantage.

Are the 6 Pounders worth using?

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>>175364319
>instead of getting comfy '40s music, we just get Two Steps From Hell

>>175363430
ARVE if there's lots of AT running around.
>Bounce
>Bounce
>Bounce

>>175365229
Why wouldn't you?

>>175365229
Yes, especially if you can take them at 2 star vet or stick a leader next to them.

>>175365851
I'm new to the game so I don't know

>>175365865
Would getting a 2* 6 pounder be better than getting two non-star 6 pounders?

>>175365998
Experience is super important, get the 2 star

>>175365998
If you can keep it alive most certainly, vet provides very large buffs to accuracy.
However it's very easy for AT guns to get sniped through no fault of their own, I take a card of a single double vet 6 lber and another card of 2 6lbers at no vet.

That might be overkill but it's what I roll with.

>>175365275
Seriously. Even a basic trumpet/bugle call would help.

You have seventy years of WW2 movie/tv/game themes to go off of and you get a soundtrack that I am 90% sure is the same as Red Dragon

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>>175366215
>>175366259
Alright, this is what I ended up taking. I replaced a Phase B Wolverine card with the experienced 6 pounder

>>175366524
post some more fitting ww2 music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm1wuKvrxAw

>>175366594
>Tank "Destroyer"
>Can't pen a Panther
Umm Eisenhower?

>>175366594
Have you ever found PIATs to be useful?

I find a 6pdr to be more useful 90% of the time

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>Build a "medium" tank
>Gets killed by stuart
Umm Wehraboo?

>>175367127
Not him but they're heaps useful, especially since Scots infantry don't carry any AT. Cheap to buy ambush troops that can destroy shit way more expensive than them. They're super shit on that factory map though

>>175367257
>Scots infantry don't carry any AT

Command infantry carry Piats and don't cost an awful lot more than the Piat team, but I agree that they make excellent ambush troops.

If I put recon into a building, are they visible or do they still get their stealth like they do in trees?

>>175367372
Oops yeah they do. PIATs are a lot better at hiding though with recon tier "Very Good" stealth so I've found more success with them

>>175367393
They not visible still and I think get better LOS on taller buildings

glad to see you back, /wgg/

>>175366857
>No Beethoven's Fifth

https://youtu.be/gZ7hYEJt2UY

Post Allied decks

>>175366940
I haven't found Wolverines very useful at all, anyone actually bother with them?

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>tell platoon to march down the road, only against one primarily infantry platoon enemy which I'm pretty sure is on the other side of the map, not afraid due to my T-34
>command element fucking up the orderly triple column formation
WHERE IS THE ORDNUNG? WHERE

>>175367670
>>175367372
Oh and I forgot, PIAT comes with the MMG Carrier which is excellent

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>>175367857
Here's my Scots in their current form. Still adjusting as I go.

>>175367886
Only really useful for bullying things that have only 1000m range.

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>>175367931
Never-mind, figured it out, had them on "remain hidden" so they kept trying to jump off the road for cover.

I better get them out of this formation or I'm going to get fucked on contact though

>>175367886
I took out two panthers with one in ambush
but the player was dumb
he also left

>>175367886
I find them useful as mobile AT guns for stuff smaller than Panthers. I use them in pairs though.

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>>175367857
Here's my Scots deck

>>175368383
>Phase B Stuarts

Why?

>>175368540
Churchills are slow as FUCK and I don't need 9 of them in Phase B.

Honeys in Phase B are fast and maneuverable tanks that are good at supporting the infantry

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>Cmd PzIV singlehandedly killed a troop's worth (4) of Shermans, plus an Achilles, a Priest and a Bren carrier
Kraut Stahl Stronk

>>175368080
Do you actually use all six 25 Pdrs?

>>175368715
Good at dying too

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>>175366857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHe6AzhRa3o

>>175368846
They are a pretty effective way to counter enemy thrusts and can usually catch Nebelwerfers with their pants down.

Also great smoke for advancing.

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>mfw i finally got my hands on CMANO 1.11 SR7

>>175368080
>No Phase A Stuarts
>15 Phase B tanks

>>175368383
>No Phase A ATGs
>Churchill OP

>>175370464
Not him, but whats wrong with the Churchill OP?

>>175370595
Off-map artillery is the biggest meme in the history of Steel Division

>>175370634
>Not Jimbos

>>175370464
Well, when my Infantry handle everything in Phase A why not hold the tanks back?

>>175370464
He's got 17, you forgot his two Crocodiles

>>175370891
You'll never use them all, Churchill IVs are also shit and can't shoot HE

>>175370874
Off-map arty is more useless

>>175347786
Scottsman can roll their opponents pretty hard. I think it means you are playing inefficiently.

>>175375183
All I know is JU-88s right now has been responsible for most of my casualties lately.

>>175375693
literally most or disproportionate

>>175370634
>>175371561
Off-Map Artillery is really good

>>175375693
They have to get really close to drop their payload, so AA is actually effective against them. But for phase A you kinda just have to take it unless you invest in a fighter or two or spam lots of AA which usually isn't a great idea since you need your other units to actually hold ground and push.

>>175376232
Disproportionate. Most notably they've been sneaking in while I am supporting a flank.


>>175376330
I've seen a lot of German players will just throw a lot of aircraft at once to swarm ADA.

>>175377084
>to swarm ADA.
What is this? Or did you just mistype AA? Anyway, aircraft are a big investment, so if they are spamming aircraft, they are giving up alot of ground units. And if you start to damage their planes and pick off a few here and there, they lose effectiveness pretty quickly. It takes a good deal of time just to reload, if you throw repairs on top, it takes along time to get all those aircraft back into the battle.
Aircracft swarms are only really good in destruction imo.

2e Blindee will be cancer

>>175378816
to me it looks like it will take luftlandes spot as worst piece of shit in game

>>175378934
Anon.

.. its Eugen.

To allow that to happen would go against all previous incarnations of France in wargame.

>>175379043
someone hasn't played RD

>>175379910
>playing RD after eurocunts op pls nerf

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that feel when freshly purified village

can someone reccommend software which can take screenshots from nonsteam games?

>>175380750
Shadowplay

>>175380750

Irfanview

>>175380750
MS paint

>Graviteam developer recommends Windows 10
LOL!