/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

>>175257528
>somehow I'M the bad guy

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xenos and niggers must be exterminated

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>>175257528
>(Future FAQ Pastebin goes here. If you want to contribute, reply to the OP with ideas or excerpts to use!)
Let's fix that.
What should go in there? General hints?

>>175257724
>lid throwing stones in people's garden

First for end of cycle in 750 posts.

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>>175257831
Feel free to try (lol).

>>175257756
A hint to ignore any threads made by you, maybe

>>175257756
dumb spiderposter

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>>175257831
spiders are bestest bros

>there are countless times more spiders than niggers on earth
>at any moment you are less than 2 meters away from the closest spider
>niggers kill countless times more people than spiders

purge the niggers

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>xenophobes have a problem with genetic engineering but no problem with being turned into a robot

What should Somehow I'M The Bad Guy?'s theme for when he scores a goal, lads?

>>175258145
red alert hell march

>>175257752

Cringe.

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>>175258052
Spiders are okay. They keep nuisibles insects at bay and keep us safe. Without them, we would be invaded by cockroaches and mosquitoes.

I want to make the perfect 4x game. What mechanics should I put in to make sure it's as good as it can be?

What's your favorite 4x gimmick, mechanic, faction types, etc?

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>>175258239
>a spider wearing half a doll as a hat

>>175258307
I love how Distant Worlds emulate a complete civilian economy. It makes the galaxy feel alive, instead of it being just a playground for various fleet.
I wish it went deeper, with city-states like in Civilizations, space gypsies that sell you stuff or just buy/sell ressources to your planet, without you butting in.

>>175258307
More autism is good. 4x as a genre exists solely to tickle the autism bone.

>>175258230
t. white cuck

>>175258307
I like the vastly different factions from endless games. Helps make separate playthroughs feel different.

>>175258402
All it does is slow the down the game in mid and end game.
But i suppose if you like looking at little freighters do their thing for a few mins

>>175258402
Ironically, that's a part I really loved in Startopia.
You have all these ayys in your space station, and they all work for you, but at the same time, they have their own goals, that may be detrimental to you.

>>175258631
>for a few mins
I have 23 hours in Distant Worlds : Universe, and 80% of it is "looking at little freighters do their thing".

I can't help it, I just like it. It makes the world feel alive when you have traffic like that.

>>175258145
Ride of the Valkyries

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>>175258565

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I kind of don't like it.

It's better then in Civ 5 where everyone feels *mostly* the same, but with one really weird outlier (Venice) that's just too weird for the feel of the game. But Endless Legend feels really hard for me to get into at all by just how weird all the factions are.

Hell, the most normal factions in that game are basically the elves and vaulters, then instantly after them in normality you have the people who can move cities and the bugs who can't stop fighting everyone. It's kind of hard to get into or have diplomacy.

I actually have a really similar fear for Endless Space 2, especially because both the Vodyani and Cravers seem like they're always going to be fighting people and can't really play any other playstyle. That's my main issue with Endless Legend and Space 2; it seems like all the factions are a bit too shoehorned into their victory conditions and roles.

Endless Space 1 felt a lot better in that respect that most factions could do most things, they just did it in unique ways. The cravers and harmony felt like interesting weird factions that got to fit in because they were uncommon, not that every single faction had to have some genre-defying gimmick.

>>175258307
I have already though this through.
>no hyperlanes OR different drives for each race ala sots
>2d map or planar 3d ala stellaris
>each star system is its own province and abstracted trade routes ala total war
>star system is the basic unit of the empire ala endless space
>realistic economy and planet environment system with 2-3 tiers of resources ala moo3/es
>strong customisation of ship segments ala sots2
>ships all the way from cutter to death star ala moo3

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Playing Colonization makes me really mad.
Not because of the game. It has a really simple yet intuitive resource and supply chain model that makes trading feel natural and yet no one's picked up on it even though THE FUCKING THING IS 25 YEARS OLD

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The only proper way to design a civ game is to make EVERY single faction overpowered, imbalanced, and in sore need of nerfs. No exceptions.

>>175259229
That game is ugly af. I don't know what it is but I don't want to play it, ever.

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Ok guys, the Fart Aliens are now communist, the "Union" in my name looks bad now.

>>175259393

why didn't civ 5 ever get something on FFH level of mods

>>175259164
Theres a civ 3 mod for it

>>175259393
What the hell.

>he fell for the hyperlane meme

>>175258749
Yea well youll get over it

>>175259597
What benefit do they even have? No wind down between jumps?

Is ship design in Stellaris unfixable in its current form?

I can't see an update happening where there isn't always an objectively best ship to spam, or an objectively best weapon type.
>Torpvettes
>Tachyon Lance spam
>Kinetic Arty spam
>6m Plasma Cruiser spam

All any of their "fixes" do is annoint a new weapon/ship class combination as the one to rule them all. There seems to be an underlying problem with their entire approach, but I'm not sure how to fix it.

>>175259703
>What benefit do they even have?
None, which is why you will be force to use them next patch.

So what's the best Tradition progression early game if you're going wide? Prosperity and Discovery openers are both so damn good whereas Expansion also helps get colonies on their feet while also decreasing Unity costs from rapid expansion.

I'm wondering about at least grabbing Prosperity opener and then filling Expansion tree.

>>175259817
>next patch

I don't know why you seem to think a QoL patch is going to change the fundamentals of the game. Changing engine types is something they will save for a large patch alongside a DLC release.

>>175259734
>tachyon lance spam
Is this actually meta?
1. They can buff shields and have excess power give bonuses to shielding
2. Bring back multiple computer types for the ship classes
3. Add hard shields aux component so shields can have a reduction component like armour (but less)
4. Nerf m plasma a bit

>>175259840
I always start off with expansion and the group of 3 on the left of that tradition. Getting pop growth early is a huge part of snowballing, and you need that -33% to extra planet influence cost as a wide player because otherwise the planet penalty becomes prohibitive.

The first supremacy tech which gives you border push is good though, worth a shout as one of the first you take even if you don't finish the tree.

>>175259164
link to NA map you're using?

>>175260039

All of his points were what used to be meta and got nerfed. Tachyons used to be L slots so every ship had them, then they changed it to an X slot.

>>175259436
because workship support is a meme that stifles creativity, and hardcodes most of the game

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>>175259436

>>175259840
Its pretty simple
Supremacy opener for borders
Prosperity and discovery openers for cheap stations
Expansion and supremacy is pretty good generally for wide

>>175260039
I was talking about the best ship by era. Initially it was all torpedo corvette fleets, but for a while after that TL battleships were king. Which is why they introduced spinal mounts and made TL completely worthless.

Even with all those changes, isn't there always going to be one weapon type which is better than the rest, and no mechanical reason to pick another?

>>175260127
Torpvettes, kinetic arty and
6m plasma cruisers are all pretty good right now though.
Only battleships suck in the current meta becuase they cant hit shit

>>175260282
>isn't there always going to be one weapon type which is better than the rest
Yes, this is unavoidable.
>and no mechanical reason to pick another?
Maybe if most weapons didn't have advantages over armor/shields you could have specialized ones.

>>175260370
>Torpvettes, kinetic arty and 6m plasma cruisers are all pretty good right now though

The first two are workable but when push comes to shove 6MPCs are just the better pick, in meta terms there's no reason to go for anything else.

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>Keepers of Knowledge have 1 planet and 20 pops
>get all pissy at me because i build robots and keep researching AI
>conquer them in one swift move thanks to my Armageddon class SuperDreadnoughts
>i have their planet now
>which puts me in the direct vicinity of 9 planet/109 pop Xenophobic isolationist FE that is already -240 opinion and angry at me

Fuck me sideways..

>>175260557
>Maybe if most weapons didn't have advantages over armor/shields you could have specialized ones.
Yes

Also it might be good if there were mutually exclusive specialised event chains or something which gave you buffs to certain weapon classes. It would at least give you a reason to vary it a bit.

>>175260568
Well of you want most bang for fleet cap, maybe. But battles are almost never equal anyway so like i said all 3 will work okay

>>175258239
>10 eyes
>2 mouths
>10 appendages
Stupid.

>>175260282
There are two (viable) defense types: Shields and armor.
The best weapon types are going to be whatever counters- you guessed it- shields and armor.

Choosing NOT to counter the defense types isn't an option either. If you can't overwhelm shield regen, you die. If you don't cut down on the 1000% health increase of max armor, you die. Countering shields is important and countering armor is MANDATORY.

Since there are only two things to counter you only need two types of weapons. Kinetics is a great all arounder that wipes out shields and plasma ignores armor.

>>175260830
The female half on top is a lure

>>175260857
So they need to add "a" slot loadouts to bring variety

>>175259393
Needs more hell terrain.

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>>175257528
Any realiable way to deal with advanced AI starts on hard or do people generally just dont use them/dont try to spawn near them?

Had a thing going with another faction where we defens pacted but the advanced AI fag still steamrolled my face and the one I have defense pact with is literally just sitting there and doing nothing.

What do, friends?

>>175261042
They "need" to unnerf evasion so there are 3 defense types to contend with. It's easy to choose 2 all rounder weapons. It is much more punishing to divide your weapons 3 ways.

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>>175258145
Speaking of which

https://strawpoll.com/47c67g3

Here is the strawpoll for our team just in case anyone has missed it.

Got quite a lot of responses so it probably doesn't need to be open for much longer but I said it would be open until the end of the weekend.

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>>175260647
Speak of the devil..

Fuck you, you managed to bully me once - no more fagotron.

>>175261286

How many are going to get picked?

>>175261237
>unnerf evasion
Well tracking is a mechanic all on its own that has nothing to do with weapon types only size and computers

>>175257528
>Go down the synthetic evolution path as a technology focused materialist empire.
>Churching out minerals and research extremely fast.
>Spiritualist fallen empire gets pissed I out implants in my pops
>Eventually complete the bath and get that sweet +20% resource modifier with the -25% consumer goods cost.
>Happy nation with 100% happiness replicants.
>And then the spiritualist fallen empire declares war and destroys all my space station's and most of my fleet while 5 other empires also declare war
>lose instantly

The biological and psionic Ascension shitters don't have to put up with this

>>175261231
Yea just rng them or put settings so you dont spawn near them

>build science MEGA structure
>gives me +9 more to each science than a habitat does
>costs 1000x as much and takes 1000x as long to build
really
made
me
think

>>175261382
23.
The first four will be the medal players which have boosted stats.

I guess Somehow I'M the bad guy should have his own goalhorn since he is the main man.

>>175261462
> tracking has nothing to do with weapon types
> Missiles have superb tracking at all levels
Fixing missiles would help too since they counter evasion.

>>175261573
Holy Guardians awakened as defenders of the galaxy to deal with the AI menace.

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Is this thing still bugged so you can't get the cheevo?
It's the first time I've triggered it at all

>>175261625
a habitat will add +130% to your research times tho

>>175261896

>ISS

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>>175261924

>>175261910
the 40+ research you get in each section makes up for it.

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Which planet should I colonize and what should I focus on? I want to make sure my research doesn't want to slow down but another research planet seems to be a waste

>>175262725
right, all minerals, maybe a farm or two if you need it

>>175262725
If only it had more than a society bonus, thanks lad.

>>175263045
to
>>175262971

>>175258872
agreed tho this, fair points.
However you can always create custom factions (or you will be able to one ES2 launches) to make them a bit 'normal' though.

>>175259734
>>6m Plasma Cruiser
how is that superior to 2L2M plasma cruiser

>>175262254
yes, but the nexus doesn't increase research times so it's a lot bigger than +9

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>175263698
all L has going for it is range, really

2Ms outpower a single L

>>175261132
I don't know why she has grassland patches, as she was follows Ashen Veil since forever. I guess having Illians as a neighbour really fucks the hell terrain up.

>>175263997
Range is pretty important since it means a bonus attack round.

>>175264054
Yeah, there's no hell-tundra or hell-ice terrain in the base mod, so if the Illians turn a tile to ice and then it thaws it might take a while for it to turn Hellish again. Illians have a terrain advantage over the Ashen Veil because they can go from Hell -> Ice in one step, while it takes two or three to get to Hell. Ice -> Tundra -> Plains -> Hell, or sometimes just Ice -> Grasslands -> Hell.

Basically what I'm saying is Mulcarn is our greatest hope and did nothing wrong.

>>175263997
>>175264135
L also can't hit small ships I think, M hits a lot better unless I'm mistaken?

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>>175262725
Sploosh down your ship here.

>>175264638

The tile south of it is better

>>175264638
>>175264728
He's gonna wind up moving it to the center eventually anyway so who gives a shit

>>175264638
>>175264728
Energy tile to the south would be better, putting colony ship on a food/mineral tile is a waste since colony ship/capitals only produce energy and unity now.

>first playthrough
>do the progenitor quest chain
>their home system is in the middle of a closed border Fallen Empire
>finally get there through various means
>presumably game shat itself and there's nothing in the system

>second playthrough
>do the progenitor quest chain
>home system in closed border FE again
>Unbidden spawn right next to it

What's the reward for those quests anyway?

>a fully dedicated ringworld can produce over 1k minerals a month
>energy cost offset by ~2 habitats
Have I ascended?

>Devs thinking about making the game hyperlanes only

What even IS a hyperlane? Like, in fluff terms? They just seem so horribly... videogamey.

>>175264638
> Pirate
Hey for those of us who have a LEGIT game the correct place to drop colonies is on energy tiles (but not around research tiles and NEVER at the edge)

>>175264638
colonies give energy now, not food and minerals.

the one energy tile at 3,4 would be better like >>175264915

>>175265040
It's an underlying network of subspace channels between stars, in other words, it's bullshit.

>>175264245
Large weapons usually have shit tracking, while Medium weapons have middling tracking. If we look at Plasma Cannons, Large Plasma Cannons have 5 tracking while Medium have 40, making Medium far better suited to hitting ships with high evasion.

>>175264915
>putting colony ship on a food/mineral tile is a waste since colony ship/capitals only produce energy and unity now.

Nicely done Paradox.

>>175265195
>high evasion.
is that ever an issue when trying to hit anything other than corvettes though?

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I'm in dire need of help devising a battle plan to combat the Prethoryn on The Long Dark difficulty

>>175265431

You've got this, anon

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>>175265431
H e l p

>>175265354
I think Corvettes have a base evasion of 60, Destroyers 30, Cruisers 10, and Battleships 0. This means that medium weapons will reliably hit Destroyers but Large weapons will miss destroyers some of the time.

>>175265431
>383k
>allowing them to get this big

>>175263870
>normy lines

>>175265817
>he didn't notice the 746k on his mouse cursor

>>175265982
aw fuck

>>175259358
>hating on galciv
Get a load of this faggot.

>>175264993
Energy, Minerals and Unity I believe, I might be wrong

>>175264993
In the case of the Cybrex chain, you get access to a destroyed ringworld system, which gives you living metal.

You'll be able to repair it in 1.6, or you can repair it now in 1.5.1 if you install Utopia Expanded

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>Oligarchy
>Spend 200 influence to elect successor
>Dies LITERALLY the next second I unpause

>>175267043
Maybe check the age of the person you're electing next time

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What do you think of this flag? Do you think these are ok flags for space peacocks?

>>175267403
I'll tell you when you come back with a bio

>>175267202
Age isn't listed on the political corruption screen.

>>175267403

>no bio
>nuclear MISSILES

point and laugh lads

>>175265040
I've seen it mentioned a few times on the stellaris forums and the wiki that hyperlanes are the oldest precursor construction built to assist in FTL travel, never found a source on it though. They do make a lot more sense then though, if they're in-universe an artificial construction by a race that never figured out other FTL methods.

>>175267473
Then you deserve to get memed on by Paradox

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>>175267460

Here. This how we communicate.

>>175267570
they might as well just have stargates of something ffs

>>175267570
Maybe they can make it something so the yuht aren't so fucking useless

>>175267570

Honestly, I believe that everyone should be able to research all forms of FTL.

>>175267570

That's the usual way to go in scifi. FTL = Space Magic.

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Starsector 0.8 has some sweet new tribute portraits.

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>playing alphaMod (™)
>wow these new buildings are pretty neat
>looks like I don't need to autistically min-max my planets to have enough resources to shipbuild and planet build
>wow these sure are some neat policies
>woah I can even cleanse planets when declaring war
>declare war against an empire with inferior (™) technology level because they're impeding on my space
>my fleet of 10 battleships, 23 destroyers, and 30 corvettes all with t5 tech gets destroyed by a balanced fleet of 16 destroyers and 124 corvettes with t4 tech

This mod really made me think

>>175268498
>not a single fucking white male
Sign me up fampai

>>175267403
I love you, Kayahi!

>>175268609

>falling for the autismod meme

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>>175268609
Fuck I meant to say with t3(™)* tech not t4

>>175268313
That's kinda the plan they have for FTL in the future. They want to make hyperlanes the base FTL, remake wormholes to be naturally occurring things that require tech to access that will link 2 systems across huge distances with jump drive remaining the end game super FTL.
They haven't said shit about warp but I can see them reworking warp to be the shitty prelude to jump too, with less overall speed than hyperlanes but the ability to bypass fortified systems making warp a minor game changer in war.

I'll miss warp and wormholes if they do it but a lot of balance problems the game has do stem from there being 3 radically different forms of FTL. I mean stations getting buffed through the roof would be a big deal to hyperlane empires but completely irrelevant to the other 2 meaning they would STILL be useless. Another thing I hope they bring in is system defense ships. Ships with no FTL that cost no fleet cap and are used entirely as a static defense force in high value systems, you could actually combo stations and a standing fleet for defense then, shit would be great.

>>175268652
What do you call that guy in the bottom right then ?

"ignores 33% of enemy armor"
How does this work? If enemy armor is 50%, does it become 50%-33%=17%, or 50%*0.67=33.5%?
I mean it's fucking Paradox so I have to ask

>>175269002
Looks like David Suzuki to me desu

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WHY CANT I RID MYSELF OF THIS FUCKING SECTOR?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Just fuck my poop up the rectum family

>>175269025
2nd one

>>175267570
I mean, if you consider hyperlanes as natural wormholes, it's fine, but they should make it physical.

Have the actual wormhole linking systems spawn on the system map. Instead of just randomly going to the edge of the map to FTL, you'd have to fly to the wormhole.

It'd integrate really well with later tech where you research wormhole stations and can generate artificial wormholes.

Eventually it would culminate in jump drives, which allow ships to create wormholes on demand.

Just remove warp drives entirely because honestly they're basically just fucking jump drives except shittier.

>>175269025
Math is for neeeeeerds.
Basically anti armour shooty gives armoured UFOs big boo-boos, aight.

Are disruptors still bad due the way that the AI combat targets enemy ships?

>>175269464
Disruptors are bad because energy torps are better.

>>175268652
>>175269002
>>175269040
>not recognising Alpha Centauri leaders
You are too young to be here, please leave.

>>175258230
>cringe

Fuck off reddit.

>>175269519
To be fair to them, I'm old enough to remember AC and it took a long time (and the filename) to twig for me what I was looking at.

>>175269519
>implying this shit resembles in any way based Zakharov, Deidree or Lal

Senpai plz.

>>175269515
>Disruptors are bad

Saved you a few words famalam

>>175269519
Yang doesn't look chinese enough.
Miriam and Santiago look too old.
Zhakarov isn't desuing hard enough.
Lal, Morgan and Deidre look fine though.

How do I bookmark a catalog search?

It's not giving me a unique web address anymore.

Does anyone else find Authoritarian/Spiritualist too tile-intensive to be worthwhile? You have to build Temples and Slave Processing Centers.

>>175270014
oyy rofl

>>175268609
Corvette spam wins again

>>175269997
You don't need to put a slave plant on every planet.
Only on one's with mostly slaves and mines.

>>175269025
Second one. So 90% * 0.67 = 60%.
Ignoring armor is pretty much mandatory because that example alone is 400% extra damage.

Plasma is the ultimate meta because 90%armor * 0.2medium plasma => 18% DR.

>>175270480
Is it worth running a couple kinetics for shield busting or is plasma alone good enough?

>>175270014
eyy jajaja

>>175271025
You will always lose damage to shields and later on you will lose more damage to shield regen.

Kinetics strip shields and you have to break shields anyway. So why not?

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I think I use red too much for my boys. Not enough colours.

>>175271150
Paraincompetents didn't give us enough colours in the first place.

>Empire Colour DLC $4.99

>>175271236
I bet they'd pull that even though there are mods that already do it for free.

>>175271459
That's half the content of any given expansion pack.

>>175257528
FONDNESS
FOR
PIGS

>>175271236
Why aren't the fucking colors just an RGB sliders instead of the shit we have right now? One of the most annoying things to figure out when creating an empire is to figure out what colors to use because they're all SHIT!

How can you fuck up colors in a game?!

>Borders colliding don't push each other
>They instead created a Buffer/Frontier zone both Empires claim
>Combat and invasions in this area are allowed between both Empires even if they aren't at war
>If they sign a no aggresion pack. it becomes a DMZ/Neutral Zone and only civilian units and buildings are allowed (military stations are refunded and planetary ports can only buy civilian ships)
>Only if the Empires become allies/join the same Federation, the borders become defined
How shitty is this idea?

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WHY IS THE SCIENCE MEGASTRUCTURE A GENERIC SCIENCE NEXUS.

WHY DIDN'T THEY GIVE US A MATRIOSHKA BRAIN?

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What the hell happened to my game?

Everything just disappeared, all my planets and my fleet.

>>175272283
>Text for the end game screen message, it says how you won!
Thanks Paradox.

>>175272283
PARADOX CODING at its best

>>175272283
You got shrouded.

>>175272283
Death is the true victory.

>>175272283

SHROUDED.COM

>>175272283
Have you made a deal with the Father of Sniping, The End?

>>175270480
>>175271025
Plasma is the ultimate meta and also the ultimate trap
Don't be a fucking retard and make your fleet 100% plasma cruisers, you NEED a fraction of kinetics and corvettes thrown in
Large weapons have bad tracking and plasma in particular is also really slow, so your big plasma hose won't hit shit without something to back it up

>>175272709
>>175272593
>>175272442
No, I didn't even touch psionics.

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>>175272257

>Synth Evolution Endgame Crisis.
>Creates artificial simulations for Synths to live in.
>Finally, after a trillion iterations, the Matrioshka brain calculates that they are living in a videogame.
>Stars messing with the code of the game to spawn infinite fleets out of nothing, triggering Grey Goo, and transforming more systems into more Matrioshka brains.

Are battleships with bombers worth it?
120/s attack at least looks nice.

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>>175272909

>mfw Paradox doesn't even give us the opportunity to create a Dyson Sphere to house the entirety of a Synth race population

Imagine how cool it would be to have an Endgame Crisis like that, where your borders contract entirely to a single, immensely powerful system.

>>175272179
This sounds like a great idea but I'd prefer if it were a researchable society tech instead of a base feature; it has significant value for strategic manipulation and area denial, making it available to everyone would be too easy for a player to exploit.

>>175272909
desu, access to a matrioshka brain megastructure could be good way to buff synthetic evolution

Not sure exactly what bonuses it would give. energy and research would be boring.

>>175272257
Wouldn't a Jupiter Brain be better in relation to research?

>>175273464
>desu
Suiseseki please.

>>175273503

A Jupiter Brain's just a smaller Matrioshka Brain. Though I agree, it would also involve using a Gas Giant for the megastructure, rather than a star.

>the pseudo-intelligent Isaac autists are here to ruin the thread again with incessant arguing about things that will never exist

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jesus christ

>A queen on its own is 80k fleet power

>>175268652
Fuck off you underage b&

>>175273614

Doesn't stop you from talking about ur nonexistent sex life lel.

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I LIKE SNEKS

>>175273525
Hello, newfriend.

>>175273503
>>175273603
Yeah, a Jupiter Brain is just a baby Matrioshka Brain. Not really much of a difference, just scale.

A Jupiter Brain is what the Science Nexus should have been but, Paradox.

Still, not sure what a full-scale Matrioshka Brain would give you for bonuses. Logically it would just give you a fuckton of research, but that's not particularly interesting from a gameplay perspective

>>175273614
No one is arguing about anything m8

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I have a funny joke for /stellg/

A fanatic xenophile and xenophobe walk into a war.

What DO THEY HAVE IN COMMON?

THEY ALL DECLARED WAR ON ME

>>175274620
I don't get it

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>fanatic militant fallen empire keeps attacking me
>swat the shit out of his fleet every time it shows up, but it runs away before I finish it off
>can't kill their homeworld because of the huge ring of forts around it
>get no warscore from anything ever
>always ends in white peace
>they instantly attack the second the truce ends
ad infinitum.

>>175269002
>slavs
>white

>>175274803

so just use the 10 years to build a bigger fleet to take his capital

>>175274085

Matrioshka Brain cannot be describe as anything but Godlike Intelligence as a single mind. It would instantaneously unlock all technology and act like a super-powered Infinity Machine.

Alternatively, you could use all that processing power to simulate trillions of worlds over thousands of years of civilisations in the blink o an eye without breaking sweat.

>>175274934
I've maxed out the limit and can barely afford it, and now and then he jumps from his homeworld into my northern territories and blows up a starbase or too, putting me over the limit. Perhaps this is what I get for spamming corvettes, since I think his forts can't miss.

>>175275249
>frogposting retard fell for the corvette meme

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>First anomaly in home system
>10% to fail
>Critical failure

>>175273603
>Yeah, a Jupiter Brain is just a baby Matrioshka Brain. Not really much of a difference, just scale.

Works fine for non-synth civilisations. Synth can get the bigger ones. Everyone else is stuck with planet-sized one.

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>>175275350

>>175275349
Only did it because I created a race of Cockroaches, and a trait mod I had added "swarm tactics" and "drone minded", so it kinda worked together.

Holy shit
Amoeba flagella OP at defense
Fill your military outposts with hangars and watch them systematically impregnate the entire enemy fleet like it was a Stan Rogers concert

>>175275765
What? Explain.

Will the Sector AI build synths after you've completed Synthetic Ascension?

>>175258239
So , does the girl who reincarnated into spider later evolve into drider?

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Is this a glitch?

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>>175276021
No, it's something else entirely.
;_;

>>175276021
You want real spoilers?
No

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What traits would have space bears/bulls?

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>Xenophobe FE angry at me
>demanded that i destroy my colony that is too near them
>i refused
>-420 opinion of me
>still wont attack


Come on you elven faggot, make my day !

How many trait points do you have to work with after completing biological ascension?

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>>175274264
Too bad that guy doesn't really know what human beans look like. This uncanny valley retard face confirms.

>>175277148
>diplomat
>look like their speech comes from fanfiction.net

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This is the thread for autistically posting spiders, right?

>>175277148
what the actual fuck

>>175277326
do spiders have milk?

>>175277325
I think is actually from twitter bitching about white people.

>>175277148
I like all his stuff but yeah the cyborg fairies do look a bit derpy.

>>175275871
Kill space amoeba
Analyze debris
Research amoeba flagella
Use it for defense outposts
Make hangar battleships
Fill them with amoeba flagella
Strongest defense

>>175277525
I throw in some normal fighter strikecraft with them, flagella are considered bombers so they don't have point defense effects.

>>175277484
Still retarded. I'd definitely purge them just to clear the galaxy from their stupidity.

Diplomat my ass. It's been written by someone who has no idea what diplomacy is.

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it begins

>>175277715

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!

>>175277676
>It's been written by someone who has no idea what diplomacy is.
So Paradox?

>>175277715
What's the plan?

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>>175277325
The writing is literally comedy gold.

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>>175277715
survive

>>175277676
its a meme you dip

>>175277676
>flamboyant
Never said they were good diplomats.
I unironically like them in the same way I do the blorg. I force spawn them both in every single game. I'm sorry.

>>175277893
>>175277148
Jesus fucking christ..

>>175277906
>>175277715
Fight you faggot, you messed up, its yours duty to fix it.

>>175277852
this is my backup plan

>>175277906
>a ring world
holy shit that's lucky, the one time I did this I ended up with a 10 tile pos

>>175277906
> 709K unity
> 1 world
Holy shit man buy all that stuff up.

>>175277906
I wonder what happens if you kill it

>>175277893
>>175277148
It's supposed to be ironic though, right?

>>175277906
Unless you modded it it's shields are bugged and don't regenerate. Fallen empire fleets will easily take it out eventually.

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>>175278107
its not lucky its my backup
i left it empty just for this
>>175278118
everything you learn has already been learnt

>>175277893
Purge them. Purge them all.

>>175278027
If they're flamboyant, can I burn them alive and make them even more flamboyant?

>>175277940
>it's okay to be trash because it's a meme

>>175278252

Why would anyone want to live near a Neutron Star/Pulsar?

>>175278192
>fallen empire in 2700
ive got news for you

>>175278167
They're literally space cyborg fairies.
Of course they're not meant to be serious.
Most the rest of the authors custom empires are some flavor of authoritarian/warmongerer too.

>>175278252
oh I legit thought you nabbed an AI empire's just finished but uncolonised ring word

>>175278365
its pretty?
and has neutronium

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>>175277893

Send them to Orz space.

>>175278252
>2738
do I have to play this long until cool shit happens?

>>175278365

Well, such systems would be insanely rich in rare as fuck heavy elements. All the worlds would be phoenix worlds, formed after the Supernova. Also, it would insanely radioactive.

>>175278357
>it's okay to be trash because it's a meme
You've never heard of irony?
It's okay, human communication is very nuanced, it's acceptable to not understand humor.

>>175278252

Neutron stars should deplete ship's shields. Discuss.

What should I do with my early game influcence? Outside of outposts of course.

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>>175278167
He's either a regular autist and in that case he is 100% serious or he's a twisted, evil mastermind psychopath.

>>175278801
>it's shit, but it's ironic shit, so it's all right
Okay.
I'll make a shitty MS Paint mod and just repeat it's ironic each time someone calls it shit.

>>175278970
Given how ugly they are, I think he's a legit autist.

>>175278970
He's a professional autist.

>>175278801
>t. mod dev
This is a shit humor and you should be ashamed if you laughed.

>>175257528
I made a contract with an innocent shroud entity that made my people breed more and live longer.
It's a smart choice, right?
No problems, right?

Also, found a bug, apparently if you have an immortal scientist you elect as a ruler, they die.

>>175278554
theyll be ok as long as they dont ask about the androsynth

>a civ made entirely out of faggots
>ships that fire bubbles

the orz did nothing wrong

>>175279291
i thought they are the others or whatever that ate up the androsynth and will eventually eat up our universe

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>>175279263
>Also, found a bug

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>>175278970
>>175279030
Holofrixits and hollows are good. I like the angel portraits too.
He seems to be really bad at proper human faces though.

>>175279263
The Composer, right?

>>175279638
>really bad at proper human faces

dont piss him off, least he starts WW3

>>175279384
The androsynth are gone. The orz are here.
Do not inquire further.

>>175279638
Angel my fucking ass. These are pure ayys and they should be shot on sight.

Everything in them triggers me. They look wrong and should be killed immediately.
>weird body
>face completely blank, doesn't look like a helmet
>wings
SHOOT THEM

>>175279831
They feel the same way about you faggot. Best stay the fuck away if you don't want to be purified.

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>>175279979
Bitch only I get to purify people.

>>175279831
they look like robots desu

What are the best mods who add more planet types?

>>175279648
Yep. Good guy, seemed like a reverse papa Nurgle. Do all end contracts end with misery?

>>175280149
Ya want the truth or memes?

>>175280184
The truth. I assume there's a chance I get fucked 50 years from now -though my Oligarchic Dragon Knights would have won the game by then-. Is it 100%?

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Just came in to CURSE THIS FUCKING SECTOR that I can't seem to rid myself of because I can't gift it to dickheads around me or release them because devs thought it would a fantastic idea to not be able to release vassals at will.

What do I do? These assholes are ruining my science and everything because everything is more expensive now. My six systems are more than enough for me desu.

>>175280632
you know you can take systems off the sector right you fucking retard

>>175279831
>Everything in them triggers me. They look wrong
Just as described in the bible, then.

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>>175280542
The Composer of Strands will start to alter your species biological traits on a whim soon

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>>175280786
I thought angels were supposed to be handsome men with white, feathery wings?

>>175280632
Sector off your good systems and redevelop it.
Planets paved over with labs will pay for themselves no matter how small they are.
Or just spam more science habitats.

Huh, this is weird. I clones the Commonwealth and the UN to be able to forcespawn them, but the end result is two human species in the species menu once I do discover them (I spawned almost straight in the middle)

>>175280542

Only one of the contracts is going to end horribly, but the contract with notKhorne is also pretty bad.

>>175281021
>notKhorne is also pretty bad.
That fire rate tho

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>>175280959
Thats the renaissance view of angels, bibilical angels are fucking weird, one type of them is a set of interlocking cart wheels covered in eyes.

Also nice art.

>>175281021
Do they have same traits in same order?

>>175280817
Ohohoho, so each shroud god has a different penalty? Good job paradox, I expected we all get eater of worlds effect.

What do the other chaos gods do to you?
Whispers and Pleasure guy?

>>175280959
low level angels yes

the most powerful ones looked like the ones from evangelion

>>175281112
End of Cycle gives you a massive boost in exchange for timed complete collapse and spawning Slaneesh

>>175280959
Nah they're supposed like you gene-spliced a dragon, a hydra, a goat and a lion, covered the result in eyes and wheels and made it so if you look at them too hard you die.

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>>175281093
>one type of them is a set of interlocking cart wheels covered in eyes
Yeah well no offense but if I see an angel in my room one day, I'll try to kill him.

>>175281230
That's not getting any better.

>>175281103
Yep

>>175281081
But you get fire rate deals from the random trash spirits too tho and without the cost of "randomly I will feed your pops to the skull throne"

>>175281259
Wait end of Cycle is a different 'contract' than Eater of Worlds?

>>175281352
Theres a reason they always said "don't be afraid", it doesn't make sense if they're a beautiful symbol of divinity, it does if they're a madness inducing assortment of limbs and objects.

>>175281439
Eater of worlds takes pops off worlds at intervals, End of Cycles just gives you a massive boost, a doom timer on all your worlds and when the timer reaches 0 harvests what it is his.

>>175281112
The Whispers in the Void, in exchange for massive research boost and I think some extra influence, will eventually start to give your leaders traits like, paranoid, substance abuser, etc and causing some suicides.
The Instrument of Desire gives I think +30% to energy and minerals and in exchange your species will eventually get the decadent trait and the costs of consumer goods will rise
The Eater of Worlds gives around +33% fire rate and +33% army damage and in exchange he will start to devour your pops, sometimes one, sometimes several, sometimes entire worlds
The End of the Cycle's effects are described in the Stellaris wiki

Praise be the divines.

>>175281513
I see. And what about pleasure guy and whispers?

>>175281447
Well, in retrospect, it makes sense. God created man to His image. Wouldn't make sense for the bible to insist on that part if all His angels already looked like Him.

Do I seriously have to capitalize it every time? It's a bit of a bother.

>>175281552
>The Whispers in the Void, in exchange for massive research boost and I think some extra influence, will eventually start to give your leaders traits like, paranoid, substance abuser, etc and causing some suicides.
Cthulhutech mod when?

>>175281608
See: >>175281552

>>175281621
Capitalising it every time makes it easy to distinguish between Abrahamic God and any other god as its a proper noun when used for it.

Sometimes I wonder with some of the descriptions of the Angels if religions are based on early interference with a spacefaring species. The wheel angels could very easily be some form of drone.

>>175281668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9H41sI96hU

>>175281823
I guess I'll keep doing it to make it clear I talk of God and not YHVH or any other idol.
Also, you're not the first one to ask that.

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So will this make me go fanatical spiritualist? Is there more stuff that happens if I pick this? Or is it basically a waste and should I take the 300 society research points? The other 2 options is 80 influence and 1200 energy.

>>175277326
>too many limbs
I want artists to stop fucking this up.

>>175281904
I know I'm not but its an interesting thought and would explain a lot.

>>175277326
>when you can't decide if you prefer maids or spidergirls

>>175281984
count the arms as the pedipalps and its good

>>175281984
Six legs looks silly though.

The Xenophile FE awakened and decided to ask me to submit. My Divine Draconian Tribunal didn't have any of that shit, so we preemptively waged war on the sorry plants' asses.

Well.

I hope they don't miss their preserve with all the protected species.

IT'D BE A SAME IF SOMEONE PURGED THE SHIT OUT OF THEM.

Nah. Just slavery.

>>175282054
Or cowtits

On a scale of 1 to russian Stalker mods, how much of a clusterfuck is Improved Space Battles?

>>175281980
Last time I hit the button it tried to turn my spiritualist egalitarians into a divine empire; it definitely will do the fanatic spiritualist thing.

>>175282351
Oh, right. Didn't even notice it.

Do you have to use the exact same name lists to get the same species thing? Because I'm pretty sure the default CoM/UNE already use different lists if they spawn as defaults.

>>175282573
Ya I saved and did the same thing turned me into an imperial empire with police state and imperial cult along with roughly 50% towards a tradition. I reloaded as I didnt want to do that this game. Guess ill just take the social tech influx. This would had been a cooler event if it happened later and I was materialist.

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>>175280961
>>175280780
I dont want to have them. That's the problem. I do not want to have or be in any kind of association with these despicable fucking planets. I want them out of my system and I will build a god damn wall all over up in that shit if I must. how can I just get this shit off my fucking stuff god damn it?!?!

>>175283083
Create a spontaneous vassal and bombard it into dust

>>175283083
Gas the populations, this will de-colonize them.

>>175283083
just make a new sector you autist

>>175283083
>2468
>+141 minerals per month
what did he mean by this?

>>175283083
>141 minerals a month
Jesus christ what the fuck, I have that kind of income by the fifty year mark assuming my starting location wasn't utterly fucked

>>175283452
>>175283632
It's probably more like +600 before fleettax.

>a system breaks off an FE in rebellion
>materialist faction loses the ahead-in-tech bonus
Ah.

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>wanna play a fun little test game of Sins of Solar Empires
>want to cheat just because
>game has zero cheats and every trainer i can find is some paid bullshit that has some useless crap as a promo feature

Oh ffs...

>>175284672
You can edit the maps to give you infinite resources.
Changing industrial times and other related things are unknown to me.

>>175284672
You don't cheat in Sins.

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>>175257528
So Stellaris worth playing now? I got burned by the game at launch but I saw some of new endgame events written by the Sunless Sea dude and I was wondering if it was worth picking up the new expansion.

>>175284672
>trainer
>cheats
>when CE exists
Is it not the current year?

>>175284893
No.
>>175284902
He might want shit like instant production and instant research.

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>>175284672
>cheating
>in Sins

>>175284902
Say what ??

>>175284953
>>175284953
>He might want shit like instant production and instant research.

I want only resources.

What games would you recommend to a /civ4xg/ newfag? They don't have to be simple games.

t. /civ4xg/ newfag

>>175285063
Edit the map files to give the player in position 1 500k crystals and other such things.

is it retarded to build a ringworld around a black hole, neutron star or pulsar?

>>175285232
Depends what you want. For space games, start with Sins of a Solar Empire, then go with Stellaris, then Distant Worlds, then Aurora.
For real strategy, go with Supreme Commander : Forged Alliance.

For city building, I dunno. Maybe Cities Skylines or Tropico 4.

how hard is it to make fun events in stellaris

>>175285462
Not only is it retarded, it's technically a bug as you weren't supposed to be able to.

>>175285502
The hard bit is not being an awful writer.

>>175285501
>Sins of a Solar Empire
Rebellion was one of the few games I ever legit bought. I really liked it.

>win total victory over an FE
>they just wink out of existence
What did they mean by this?
Did they prefer species-wide suicide to getting Qu'd on?
Or is this just parakuk being incapable of getting war resolution mechanics right for the twelfth separate game in a row?

>>175285729
Same here. My only complains where about how science works, and how you can't reset the camera. I always ended up moving it around.

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>>175281093
A little bit of topic, but Ars Goetia has a whole chapter dedicated to binding and evoking "angels". They are not much different than your regular demons, though more benevolent in nature than the more neutral to malevolent cousins.

>>175285587
why is it retarded specifically for a black hole? you could just use the power plants on the ringworld to heat it
not that heating it is a mechanic or anything, but for arguments sake
would neutron stars and pulsars emit too much radiation?