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>Makoto x Phantom
>Anne x Ryuji
>Futaba x Yusuke
>Haru x Goro

Daily reminder that this is the optimal pairing in P5

Previous : >>175237515

NEWS
>New game domains registered: http://personacentral.com/potential-persona-5-spin-off-website-domains-registered-including-p5d-p5u/
>English P5 DLC schedule: http://personacentral.com/persona-5-dlc-scheduled-announced-english-release/
>Next major event announced for August 2nd: http://personacentral.com/large-scale-persona-live-event-announced-august-2-2017/
>New Persona games to be announced 2017: http://personacentral.com/atlus-to-announce-several-games-in-2017-includes-the-persona-series/
>New Atlus studio "Studio 0" to create new RPG named Project Re Fantasy: http://personacentral.com/atlus-project-re-fantasy-concept-video-site-update/
>Persona 20th Anniversary radio CD announced: http://personacentral.com/persona-20th-anniversary-radio-cd-detailed/

INFO
>P5 Info
pastebin.com/MJuR9h0S

GUIDES
>General Guide
pastebin.com/eCHRjKCZ
>PQ Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh
>P4U2 Guide/Resources
pastebin.com/M3MPepKb

DOWNLOADS
>Art, Guides, Music, etc.
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona Image Collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>Persona 5 Resources
pastebin.com/CZEvEgiE

MANGA
>Scans
personascans.tumblr.com
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
pastebin.com/L3WXvsf3
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I want to date Kawakami!
I want to put a ring on Kawakami!
I want to marry Kawakami!
I want to impregnate Kawakami and rub her swollen belly!
I want to rest my head on Kawakami's pregnant belly and feel the baby kicking!
I want to raise a family with Kawakami!
I want to tell Kawakami how much I love her!
I want to grow old with Kawakami!
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Claiming best girl
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The OP ain't your own personal memehouse, son.
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Phantom is from Sumaru City
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How will FeMC handle calling up the maid service with Ryuji and Mishima
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>>175256223
You've gone too far this time
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>tfw can't quit the Phantom Thieves and spend my days learning shogi from my autistic princess
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>>175256310
>>175256337
This will be a good thread.
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I want to make Sae happy. I want to remind her that life isn't all responsibility, that life can be filled with joy.

I want to play strip poker with Sae.
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>>175256223
Damn if the OP pic doesn't make Goro look smexy
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Yusuke is ruining the game for me. I hate him so much, I can't even put it into words. That scene with him and the lobsters got me so angry I had to start fast-fowarding through it. It was a slap in the face.

>BUT IT WAS SO FUNNY AND GREAT MAI HUSBANDO IS INTERESTED IN ART AND LOBSTERS SO KAWAII XD AND THEN HE GOT 3 NOTES WHEN I ASKED IF I SHOULD STRIP HA HA

Yusuke is a Gary Stu. He doesn't have flaws. He has Hollywood flaws. He gains everything by being handsome, then the game tries to subvert it by giving him a weakness and saying "Hey look, he's still human, he's a lonely starving artist!" But he isn't. He's a charismatic artist with an autistic side. He's not a character with flaws. He's Male Hermione.
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>>175256418
What do you think her reaction would be to Joker telling her at the end of her SL that he isn't interested in Shogi at all and was just using her for PT strategies?
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Will we ever save door-kun?
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>>175256481
>>175256310
My fellow Sadayo brothers!
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>>175256535
She's working on it.
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>>175256506

She'd concede with grace
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>>175256506
Better than Yoshida's reaction to Joker finding out he never gave a damn about being a politician.
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>>175256535
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I want to drink coffee with Akechi!
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>ywn go to Tokyo Destinyland with your boyfriend
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>>175256223
Best pairing!
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>>175256621
I don't think Yoshida would react too poorly to that, at the end of his SL anyway. He knows that Joker is part of the Phantom Thieves and approves of their reforming society. He sees that Joker is trying to make Japan a better place, just like he is.
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I'm planning on getting a Sae commission done and I was wondering if anyone could recommend some artists.
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Akechi is a good character and I can't wait for him to come back!
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>>175256838

ShindoL
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>>175256908
This. Or Asanagi.

Victim Girls Twin Wardens/Merged Fuckdoll doujin when?
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>>175256664
>L to the J, say stay laced, here's my card, B
>Royal flush and I'm the ace
what did he mean by this
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what is the best costume dlc
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>>175257127
DAN because you get meme akechi
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>>175257127
Whichever one looks best to you?
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>>175257127
Ultimax because Makoto ass.
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>>175257182
You get a good look at Makoto's ass in her default costume already, why bother?
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>>175257127
DAN
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>>175257127
DAN
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>>175256898
When does he use this cut in?
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Anyone else hoping Goro uses Robin Hood as his Persona in (the inevitable) P5: Arena?

Loki's design was pretty terrible.
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>>175257127
dan
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>>175257315
>Loki's design was pretty terrible.
Shit taste there mate
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>>175257156
>>175257258
>>175257279
Kinda lame to use Goro as the best reason to buy a costume DLC desu. It's cool and all but you'll barely see it.
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Needs more Metis
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>>175257379
nice anatomy m80
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>>175257315

You're crazy, friend. Loki's design is so good I save edited him in as my main persona.
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>>175257367
Yusuke's space pants?
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>>175257127
I like DAN, Raidou, and Catherine, but go with whatever you want.
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>>175257315
>Loki's design was pretty terrible.
End yourself.
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>>175257405
She's a robot, Anon.
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fuck guys I just wanna be good friends with Makoto
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Phantom is from Sumaru City!
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>>175257367
which is a damn shame
but a valid point
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>Wake up
>See this

What do?
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>>175256535
Messiah specifically mentions rebirth - and Elizabeth is canonically trying to do something.
Probably.

>>175256664
Door-tan is too cute for this world.
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>>175257551
MY UNCLE'S A PHANTOM THIEF!
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>>175257650
she's also not canon
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>>175257645
Ask her where my wife is and to kindly get out of my bed.
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>>175257315
Goro's real ultimate persona is Helel
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>>175257609

I wish I could do a playthrough of Goro's story.
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>>175257645
Ask her why she's sleeping down there, that is far from the optimal spot for cuddling.
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>>175257645
Put her in her bed like a good older brother
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>>175257714
>ywn get an apartment with Kawakami and let Futaba stay while she's going to school.

Why live?
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>>175257715
Joker
>The Fool: Arsene
>Ultimate Fool: Satanael
>Reverse Fool: Mephistopheles???

Goro/Crow
>The Justice: Robin Hood
>Ultimate Justice: Helel???
>Reverse Justice: Loki
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>not even two seconds in
>yukari already being cunty
jesus christ woman, i'm a scrawny emo fuccboi and you knew i was coming, what possible threat am i to you

>>175257650
i'm not a man of god but isn't jesus only gonna come back for real at the literal apocalypse though? like not the termporary coming back where he says his goodbyes to everyone, i think door-kun already got that out of the way with the lead-up to graduation
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>>175257710
Canonicity is Door-tan's only weakness. ;_;
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>>175257715
I like to think this is the reason why it didn't appear. It's literally been every Persona game EXCEPT P5.
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>>175257715
That would be interesting. I wonder if it's true? We know Helel isn't in the game, and perhaps Loki just represents the reverse Justice?
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>>175257802
It's canon in my heart and in my dreams!
So lonely ;_;
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>>175256535
Never. Stop being delusional and move on desu.
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>>175257850
it wasn't in base P3

>>175257852
loki is already a trickster god, it fits the pattern of the rest of the PT. trickster mortal to trickster god, where does helel factor into that
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>>175257829
I don't remember, were there implied to be dorm members who weren't part of SEES, or is Yukari asking "is it okay for this guy without a Persona to live here"?

Either way, yes, Yukari's a fucking cunt.
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>Hassou Tobi is now inheritable and also a skill card
What's the first thing you'd do?
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>>175257942
The point is Helel was added on. By P5 he should have already been there.

>>175257958
M A T A D O R
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>>175257816
>Helel
>Justice
I get that you just want Helel back in the game, but come on.
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>>175257930
nah

>>175257954
i think it's SEES only or the lobby would have seemed less enormous and lonely
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>>175257958
Give it to my starting Persona.
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>>175257998
i second this
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>>175257829
Yukari did NOTHING wrong.

>apocalypse
To be fair, that seems like a common occurrence in SMT.
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I wish there was fanart of Goro and his theoretical Helel

>>175257852
Nah, it's a meme but I would love for it to be true

>>175257850
Is this true? I've never played the original Persona but the one there looks more like Lucifer than Helel.
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>>175258080
hell yeah, buddy
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>>175257958
Give it to Gabriel as a sign of my love to Sadayo and solo the whole game with her.
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>>175257829
>>yukari already being cunty
Well what did you expect? She going to be a even bigger cunt later.
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>>175256404
Sensually. Or join up. Or act as their proof they had no funny ideas.
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>>175258080
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So, every game had a cameo of characters the previous game...except 3?
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>>175258108
Yukari was tempted by an outside force.
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How strong is Baal's unique physical attack compared to say, God Hand or Brave Blade? I know it doesn't matter when you can Hassou Tobi but I'm curious.
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>>175258176
persona 3 was the soft-reboot
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>>175258168
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>>175258015

Helel is pretty awesome. Margaret's IK in P4U is my favorite by far.

99999 damage to my heart.
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>>175258176
P3 had TV references of the past characters. If you go to the TV on the birthday of a P1/2 character, they will have a special show called "Trish's Who's Who" and talk about them.

The only ones that don't get a reference is Brown (New Year's) and Ayase (one of the last days in the game).
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>Shinya's dub sounds like Naota from FLCL
I've made a grave mistake.
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>Ann at rank 8
>always wants to hang out
>avoiding her because I'm not sure I'm ready to settle down

I've become a commitaphobe in a fucking video game guys, what's happening to me
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>>175258108
It's always such a letdown when every SMT game seems poised to have you to encounter THE deity only to reveal that you've just been fighting another one of mankind's genocidal imaginary friends again.
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>>175258380
she's fine with staying friends
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>spent 7 bucks on the P4 DLC set for the costumes and music
>battle theme isn't even "Face Up To The Truth" but some random song I've never heard before

What the fuck Atlus?
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>>175258015
He's obviously going to be The World.
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Do the PS4 themes come with music for the menus?

If they don't then what's the fucking point?
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>>175258420
you need to buy persona 4 to hear that battle track
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>>175258376
He's an Overlord. Have him kill Yaldy for you.
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>>175258420
Should've looked that up beforehand. It's the battle music in P4G.
The DAN DLC has Reach Out to the Truth, but it's not the same version that was in P4.
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>>175258420
Well here's your problem, "Face up to the Truth" isn't a song in Persona 4
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>>175258504
custom icons and menu sounds
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>>175257753

Patrician answer.
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I want Sae to celebrate christmas with me in a nice cabin that we rented out for the night where we can be alone and away from the troubles of the world.
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>>175258420
It's the P4Golden battle track.
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>>175258332
>>175258176
>>175258332
Persona TAISEN when?
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>>175258195
>Lovers always wins
>3's best girl is Empress or the non-canon Fool
>everyone hates Rise
>no one cares about Ann
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Fuuka wishes you a bright and beautiful morning!
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>>175258380
Ann is the easiest girl in the game, I've got her to rank 8 before I even met Makoto.
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>>175258640
It's an old ass /pg/ meme.
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>>175258703
Isn't that just because she's the first girl you meet?
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someone redpill me on persona fusing how am I meant to do it, do I really have to keep reloading untill i get the skills i want.
talking about p3 and p4
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>trying to download the swimsuit dlc
>the store is just fucking stopped.
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>>175258792
No, it's because she has no requirements except for lvl 2 kindness and you can meet her literally every day.
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>>175258826
Pretty much, yeah. Certain personas are more likely to inherit certain types of skills, so if you're fusing an Elec persona and one of the personas you're fusing has something shit like Zio, it'll almost always get carried over.
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>>175258826
More or less. Don't have to reload though, just clear the selected personas.
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>>175258826
The skills passed in fusion are random and change every time you select the personas you want to fuse as shown in the the webm I'm posting, but certain personas have some affinities to different types of elements, which means they're more likely to learn a certain type of skill.
A persona that has fire as its main theme is more likely to learn a fire skill over any other one.
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>>175258932
>>175258961
>>175258965
I see, thank you very much for the info guys.
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WASSUP /pg/ THIS GENERAL EFFIN SUCKS
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>yukari and mitsuru sitting across this giant common room from each other, with a literal glass barrier between them
>this background music with this guy grunting out fucking nonsense
>MC standing around with the worst posture in the universe and twisting the toe of his boot into the floor like some kind of bashful princess
p3 isn't so pretty anymore but this is kind of amazing
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>>175258559
>>175258610
Is it? Well it's shit. I'm sorry for all those that played Golden first.

>>175258569
Autism.
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>>175259161
>>MC standing around with the worst posture in the universe
This truly bothers me the most about Headphones-kun.
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>>175259152
Hey you guys are browsing /pg/
the WORST general on /vg/
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>>175259161
>p3 isn't so pretty anymore
have you seen p3? it was never pretty.
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>>175259253
I wanna name P3 MC Jesus Headphones next time I play P3
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>>175259563
>not Headphones Jesus as a foil to Revolver Jesus
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>>175259320
every general is garbage
turns out all people willing to sit on a board dedicated to a game for more than a day are little to no life losers.
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Here we go again~
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I liked P3 overall but it has some major problems

>95% of s.links are pure garbage
>full moon dungeons should have been longer, tartarus should have been shorter
>amount of enemy designs is pretty low, really should have just milked the demon models instead of making boring shadow chumps
>giant stretches of time where the plot goes on vacation only to check in with you to make sure you remember what it's about then fucking off again
>if you take party control away make team members not awful or at least make status effects land more effectively, marin karin is only a meme because it almost never works

There is more, but I think it could really benefit having a remake on the P5 engine more then others.

Even P2, which is a gamble for Atlus sales wise and is already a game it's fans can enjoy, You'd fix the gameplay in 2 sure, but they'd start tacking on s.links and story revisions and is that what P2fags really want?

What are some changes to P3 you'd like to see if it gets a remake?
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>there are people who think Ann is canon
>when even Hifumi and Haru have something over her
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>Just had to turn down Haru

IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>175259810
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>>175259958
god i love her
why can't she be real
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>>175259924
I think it's almost unanimous that people feel bad after turning Haru down. I know I felt like shit once I saw her reaction and even afterwards when I'd hang out with her.
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>>175259958

>>175259924
Yeah this part sucked but she's boring despite being the sweetest thing.

>>175260012
Because we don't deserve nice things.
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>>175259958
This is a fucking 30 something year old lusting over a 16 year old, not even early 20s.

That's gross, not cute.
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>>175260106

>>175260189
Kek.
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>>175260189
How so?
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>>175260189
Kek.
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http://personacentral.com/atlus-character-designer-shigenori-soejima-interview-pixivision-workplace-process/
Soejima talks about his work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YAJkM9fX_w
and draws a Makoto
>>175259201
in P4G you still get Reach out to the Truth if you get advantage in battle.
Reach Out really should've been the track for that costume, it's a P4 DLC, not P4G. and DAN should've had Dance! instead of the fucking final boss music
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>>175259869
No one believes in canon.
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>>175260242

>>175260275
We have a few shitters that drop a line or two about it once in a while, don't mind them.
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>>175259850
>>95% of s.links are pure garbage
Sun, Devil, Empress, Emperor, Tower are great. Hanged Man and Temperance are alright as well.
I agree with the rest though.

>What are some changes to P3 you'd like to see if it gets a remake?
Make Tartarus more... eventful, I guess. The only reason I didn't want to kill myself in there is because I sprinted through most of the floors.
More slinks with your team for Door-kun. Why the fuck can't you hang out with Junpei and Akihiko at all? Extra screentime would be good for Shinji too.
FeMC.
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>>175260390
>master

Scene ruined
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As much as I love Kawakami, I can't decide if Kawakamifags are worse than Makotofags or not.
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>>175259850
>What are some changes to P3 you'd like to see if it gets a remake?
I think just copying gameplay mechanics from P5 would be enough. Like you said, make Full Moon Shadow dunegons longer and similar to Palaces while tartarsauce stays as Mentos Lite.
whil I agree that most S.Links were total garbage and there are logn periods of fucking nothing, I don't really want them to change that that much.
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>>175259924
I think Haru would take the whole thing the easiest despite her reaction. She's incredibly rich, she has a lot of potential and she's surrounded by people. Compared to her, other girls have nothing. For example, without Joker Makoto will become a 30-year-old virgin like her sister, that much is guaranteed.
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>>175260501
Akechi fags are the worst
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>>175260428
She can't help herself but to slip and call him Master out of love.

>>175260501
Let's see, there's less than 20 Kawakami posts per thread, and the majority of the threads so far are Makoto and Goro posting so I suppose it comes down to you finding 20 posts more offensive than hundreds.
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>>175260578
>Let's see, there's less than 20 Kawakami posts per thread
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>you've been a coma for a week don't worry about it
fuck you igor
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Isn't it depressing that in P3, after befriending and helping out a ton of people in town, you fucking die?
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>>175260676
The entire theme of the game is the inevitability of death. The game as a whole is rather depressing, anon.
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>>175260676
Well the game's over, at least now my player avatar can't do stuff i don't want them to do in extended canon
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>>175260738
Compare to P4 and P5's absolute feel good to the MAX endings.

Only remotely downer aspect is Goro dies but the team strangely gets over it by the road trip.
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>>175260676
To be fair, you die to protect them all.

>>175260747
Aside from hanging out with the waifu of your choice and college, what would Door-kun even do that could be important?
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>>175260929
>strangely
they never really gave a shit about him
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>>175260738
Death is a bummer, but I think that P5's "here's a hundred ways people can be horrible towards their fellow man" is more emotionally draining.

Though, P5 has more uplifting, "things can get better" part in it.
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>>175260929
base persona 4 at least had the bittersweet feeling of leaving behind all the friends you made. persona 4 golden kinda wrote over that with the epilogue stuff. persona 5's ending is probably the happiest, because you really get the feeling the crew won't let his return back home get between them.
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>>175260410
Emperor sucks.
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>>175260542
>Sae is a virgin

There is no proof that's true.
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>>175261073
t. smoker
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>>175260990
True. They thought he was scum from the get-go. They just didn't know he was the dude that killed like 1/8th of their parents.
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>>175260990
Well, I don't think that's necessarily true. They cared about him in the sense they didn't want him to die and they wanted him to "see the light." But they were never really truly friends with him, because they were aware he was tricking them the whole time. So there really wasn't any genuine connection there. It wouldn't be hard to get over him.
If they bring him back and give him more depth, and he dies again, and THEN they show absolutely no concern, it would be a little weird. As it stands, they have no reason to weep over his death for long.
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>>175261136
wait, if goro was like 7 when wakaba died, then who was the persona user that killed her phantom?
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>>175260676
>>175260929

I'd just like to give my reasoning behind why some people don't find P3 ending too depressing and why some people feel P4's is.

P3 is about death, some people had already dealt with their issues with mortality before playing P3 so it won't effect them as strongly as others.

P4 has a strong days gone by theme to it, and has people reflect on their past which often leads to "what could have been" thoughts.

I personally like both a lot but lean to P4's ending having a greater impact since my father died of a terminal illness in my late teens and not playing persona games till my late 20's
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>>175261186
>wait, if goro was like 7 when wakaba died
Where the fuck did you get that from?
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>>175260659
I'm not even trying to bait, count the posts that have Kawakami, Sadayo, Sensei and image only posts and you get less than 20 every thread.
I know because I'm always on the look out for people posting new Kawakami stuff for the collection.
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>>175261186
Didn't they say Wakaba died three years before the main story?
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>>175260410
Empress is only ggod becuase it lets you fuck Mitsuru. Other than that it's shit.
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>>175261323
It's two years.
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>>175260929
>strangely
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>>175258380
Play Catherine.
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Here is what I don't get.

The Thieves caught Goro dead to rights long before Sae's Palace when Futaba swiped his phone and they told him she was just autistic.

HOW did he not deduce it was a trick and counteract with a secret plan if he's an ace, Light Yagami-like detective?

He just bought it being autism on the spot.
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>>175260990
>>175260929
>>175261039
>Only remotely downer aspect is Goro dies but the team strangely gets over it by the road trip.

Maybe they have an adventure with him (or his ghost/shadow/shadow clone ghost) in the gap between the ending and the epilogue that sorts everything out.

Like how the team in P4G sort of cared about how Adachi was doing in the epilogue because a few weeks prior he helped them beat up a crazy edge lord ginger.
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what happens if you accept yaldabaoth's deal in the velvet room, are you even allowed to?
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>>175261275
>>175261323
>>175261391
wait, it was only 2 years ago? so futaba was 13 when it happened? that would put groo at 14 or 15, then, easily strong enoguh to do it

i thought wakaba died when futaba was like 6. my bad
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>>175261439
>HOW did he not deduce it was a trick and counteract with a secret plan if he's an ace, Light Yagami-like detective?
Because he was not genus. His detective skills was all about being an inside man. Easy to catch suspects when you cause the crime.
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>>175261439
>HOW did he not deduce it was a trick and counteract with a secret plan if he's an ace, Light Yagami-like detective?
did you miss the part where he said he wasn't a real detective? every case he solved he also perpetrated with shido's help. he's intelligent, but he's no "ace detective."
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>>175261469
The world goes to normal, with Phantom Thieves running rampant and abusing their power to reform anyone who doesn't agree with them, basically they become Light as he was after L's death.
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>>175261439
he may be smart, but he's not necessarily a genius hacker like futaba.
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>>175261439
Didn't you pay attention? He's specifically NOT and ace detective, he just got that title because he'd solve the "unsolvable" crimes that he himself committed.
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>>175261469
yeah, the phantom thieves become mad with power and everyone backs down as hundreds of changes of hearts occur
you know that pic of joker smirking, that's one of the ending scrennies
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>>175261436
Once you realized she was full of bullshit (lionized personal freedom in spite of still living with her parents and being unable to even cook for herself), Catherine herself became strangely charming in her encounters afterwards
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>>175261436

Not him but I beat it recently and Catherine makes my dick rock hard. Seriously she's everything I want.
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>>175261285

It's a good thing Goro died, he'd NEVER live down Pancakes.

Joker would send a care package to prison every month containing pancake related items.

The other prisoners would find out because Mashima would spread his arrest record and personal story online.

He'd get syrup poured in his hair by guards, and any appeal process would just end in the courtroom having a pancake lunch while everyone holds back laughter.

Truly he dodged a bullet.
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That feeling when you play japanese anime game and think "they really lay the exposition thick in these things" and then you go online and realize it wasn't thick enough for some people.
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>>175261469
Bad end, the Phantom Thieves turn Tokyo into their own personal police state.
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>>175261439

He's also the type to just assume he's more clever then others. He probably saw the PTs as idealistic retards who only avoided capture due to the metaverse being unbelievable
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>>175261553
>>175261541
>>175261536

You people have to understand that, while Goro's detective status was fraud, he was a genius by default.
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>>175261585
Her endings were surprisingly super comfy. So were Katherine's (and the Good/True Freedom Endings where you chill with all your buddies in a bar and either blithely lose all of Boss' money or win a space tour), but more so with Catherine's.
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>>175261579
>>175261550
>>175261693
huh, I figured it was a bad end but not in that way

interesting
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>>175261380
It's also one of the very few times in the game where Headphones-kun doesn't just pretend to be a door while people tell him all about their dead /dying parents.
Aside from the first couple of dates, I liked it.
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>>175261747
No he wasn't. His plan was idiotic and petty.
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>>175261614
Fuck, this would've been hilarious.
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>>175261889
Not him but I thought his plan using the other card at Sae's palace was pretty smart.
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>>175260337
Here's the image, for those who need a Makoto wallpaper.
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>>175261747
i understand that quite well. i even said that he's intelligent. he's just not an ace detective as we're led to believe at first.
maybe he was just so convinced they had nothing on him he didn't think they'd have an elaborate ruse set up already, with one part of their plan being having the "autistic shut in girl" bugging his phone in around only a minute. he's smart, but he's also human, and he can't account for anything.
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>>175261747
>how did your master plan get foiled
>by pancakes
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>>175261897
I think it's more if someone came in they would have one hell of a time explaining it.
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>>175261897
Only because there's a chance of getting caught.
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>>175261747
If he was a genius he wouldn't have assumed that his plan would go off without a hitch desu.
He's a smart guy, but his hubris gets in the way. He assumed that the PT were backed into a corner with no escape, just like he assumed Shido wouldn't off him as soon as he became Prime Minister.
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>>175259850
>You'd fix the gameplay in 2 sure, but they'd start tacking on s.links and story revisions and is that what P2fags really want?
yes. the story and characters in p2 are not as good as people like to pretend and would benefit from being elaborated on.
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>>175261972
There is a long line between smart and genius.
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>>175262017
neat, thanks!
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>>175262017
Thanks
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>>175261972
I don't know why the others didn't think to use more than one card when they were told that the free coin gift was per-card.
Betting on Joker isn't nearly as obvious, but that much was at least.
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>>175262058
>>175262085
This. He's very clearly smart. Everything in Sae's Palace had to be improvised, yeah? I don't think he'd be able to plan for all of that ahead of time. But while he is smart, there's a difference between being smart and being a genius. Like the first anon said, he's arrogant and he fucks himself by being so. His downfall was underestimating the Phantom Thieves and overestimating himself.
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>>175260337
I had no idea Futaba's headphones were actually sold.
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>>175262085
in P3 it's only 120 Knowledge points
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>>175260081
>Unanimous
Fuck no. You guys overreact too much because Haru is beta bait
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>>175257954
The dorm was owned by the school(which Mitsuru owned herself), she says there was a mistake that placed you there.
People only move there if they have personas or "potential"(they experience the dark hour).

So to yukari a rando she doesn't know that doesn't have a persona just shows up at the SEES persona user base where they fight shadows.
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Post Tae
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>>175262325
Did you miss the part where I said "almost"?
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>>175261285
With teacherfags, you get the same fags spamming the same images and screenshots while circlejerking over their Oedipus Complex.

Stop making yourself look better than other equally annoying waifufags
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>>175262237
Are they good headphones, or is it just overpriced marketing?
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>$175
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>>175262237

>wireless

neets are disgusting
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>>175261614
>Truly he dodged a bullet.
Pretty sure he literally didn't
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>>175262545
It's an exclusive and very limited LP print for collectors, what do you expect?
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Metis spinoff when?
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>>175262416
>Almost
Not even close either.

There is a reason your shit girl isn't among the popular ones like Futaba
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>>175262573
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>>175262545
Essentials
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>>175262545
I love collecting records, but $175 is a bit much. I'd be content if they just put all the vocal tracks on a single 12". I still might buy that boxset though.
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>>175260578
Someone post that pic of Kawakami in maid uniform saying that she doesn't mind being covered in cum if it's for her Master.
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>>175262705
Not liking her is one thing but you have to be pretty emotionless to not at least feel bad for her.
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>>175262573
Kek.
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>>175262545

175 is pretty on point compared to other music collector's editions actually.

and only 1000? they'll sell out easily.
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>>175257829
How is she being a cunt? She's concerned that you're going to be involved in something you shouldn't be at all.
Sure she could have waited for you to leave but she doesn't mean it in a mean way.
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>>175262573
DELETE
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>>175262017
Thanks senpai!
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>>175262821
>How is she being a cunt?
The first thing she does is show you her gun and look at you with murderous intent
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>>175262821
yeah so concerned about my potential involvement that she nearly busted out her brain demon to either kill me to death or involve me for sure
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>>175262790
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>>175262903
>>175262915
I don't remember that part at all what?
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>>175262573
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Now that the dust has settled; Which, if any, evolved personas were better than the originals?
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>>175262997
The first thing she does when she sees you is try to persona you ass
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>>175263052
Does she explain why? Maybe she thought you were a shadow or something since you do look pretty dead
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>>175263048
why is makotos persona one of the transformers??
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>>175263048
man, that image makes me sad
none
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>>175263048

As I was scrolling down the image I was thinking "these aren't THAT bad, I even like a couple of them, what was /pg/ talking about"

Then I burst into laughter when I saw Haru's, what in the fuck is that?
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>>175263172
Autism.
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>>175263048
None of them. Although if I were forced to choose one, it'd be Yusuke's.
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>>175263204
Mexican Izanami
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>>175263094
>does she explain why?

No, she just pretends she didn't just show you a gun and shot you a "I am going to fucking hurt you" glare.
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>>175263048
Arsene = Satanael
Zorro < Mercurius
Captain Kidd > Seiten Taisei
Carmen < Hecate
Goemon < Kamu Susano-o
Johanna > Anat
Necronomicon > Prometheus
Milady > Astarte
Robin Hood < Loki
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>>175263048
Anat is cool because she actually transforms. Others are meh.
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>>175263325
Correct
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>>175263048
Mercurius is better than Zorro but the rest are shit
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>>175263325
I agree with this.
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>>175263325
Why do people actually like Arsene's design? I don't see it. He should be a gentleman thief but he just looks like a crooked edgelord. And I mean crooked in a literal sense, he's got bits just sticking out all over.
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>>175263325
>Captain Kidd > Seiten Taisei
no
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>>175263048
Ann's looks like something straight out of Kill la Kill.

I prefer Morgana's, but that's because I don't like Zorro at all.

Satanael is baller, Ryuji and Yusuke's are ok, I like Makoto's, and Futaba's one is eh.

Haru's is just wtf.
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I think I finally figured out what bothered me about the ending, why it felt incomplete.
The evil people beside Shido are still out there, they still have Wakaba's research as well as the data gained from Goro, and given that Joker is still being pursued shows they didn't have a change of heart.
What's to stop this whole thing from starting over again, but instead of a phony detective they start enlisting actual assassins or well trained but morally corrupt police and JSDF soldiers from starting the entire Mental Shutdown scheme again?
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>>175263412
This
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>>175263325
I thought Prometheus was a straight up improvement, until I realized it was a smiley face.
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>>175263579
WHAT
OH FUCK NOW I HATE IT
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>>175263579
>mfw
CUTE!
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>>175263502
because it was all just a game ;^)
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>>175263473
>He should be a gentleman thief but he just looks like a crooked edgelord
yeah, I'm pretty sure Soejima designed him back when the starter Persona was supposed to be Mephistopheles and they decided to keep him despite the change to Arsene
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>>175263502
Please buy Persona 5 Arena
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>>175263502
the metaverse collapsed along with yaldi, so even though they have the knowledge, they can't access it anymore
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>>175262949
DELET
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>>175263579
Oh shit
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>>175263502
The Metaverse is gone, yo.
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>>175262796
Why should I? The bitch is rich
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>>175263579
>floating neon emoji ball
>better than a satanic UFO
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>>175263692
But they're not part of Yo Gabba Gabba's scheme.
They're still out there in the Persona canon with the ability to just kill anyone without any evidence and without any method of stopping them until it's too late
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>>175263768
No! The Kawakamifag in me requires I save all the images!
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>>175263794
Her wealth has nothing to do with it. She seems genuinely in love with Joker or at least heavily invested. It's clearly painful for her when you turn her down. The other characters by comparison aren't really that fussed until you take their romance route by the look of things.
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>Completed every single confidant on my first playthrough
>Completed the last two on the last possible day
>Didn't even know it was the last day
Feels real fucking good
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>>175263754
>>175263792
And who says it can't be remade?
They know it exists and cognition is basically magic as proven by Morgana coming back.
Besides, if anything can be created once it can be created again
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>>175263841

>ignore all posts telling you why this can't happen
>continue to be wrong

k
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>>175263048
I like Makoto's transformer. Rest were meh.
Well, Satanael is cool, but so is Arsene.
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>>175263945
She tells you she fell in love with you at first sight basically and that she only joined the PT so she could be closer to you. Even if you reject her she still considers you her hero.
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>>175263754
>>175263792
did you guys already forget that Mitsuru passed all Kirijo Group research to the government
Metaverse was just one way to access CU. The gov definitely knows other ways to get in there.
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>M-Merry Kursisumassu
>M-MERRY KURISUMASSU
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>>175263579
Is he supposed to be a deadmau5 reference or something?
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>>175264053
So you should feel bad
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>>175263945
And? Why should I care for it? Seems forced as fuck, especially with the love at first sight deal. She's beta bait
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>>175264083

>Mitsuru is Nyarly

god damn it
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So I'm playing WWE 2K17 and I'm looking on the community creations for new wrestlers to flesh out my rosters and I found a bunch of persona characters.
So far I found P3 protag, P4 protag, Makoto, Haru, Ann, and Velvet twins. Pics once I find my flash drive to move stuff from PS4's capture gallery.
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>>175264083
So the government is going to screw around in the CU until they run into something they shouldn't have?
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>>175263204
Mexican mother goddess, represents fertility
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>>175264053
Lmao what a dumb bitch
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>>175264290
welcome to the plot of P5 Arena
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>you can't romance Sae

Why is there no option to ask if she has plans for christmas?
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>>175264302
Asterte is greek you uncultured swine
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>>175264252
I did feel bad because she's basically the only one that reacts poorly to it. Futaba has clear feelings for you but her reaction isn't bad. Ann doesn't give a shit about romance until you bring it up, Makoto doesn't give a shit either.

>>175264316
So cool and edgy, are you a member of the Phantom Thieves?
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>>175264424
>>175264424
>
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>>175263924
>tfw I'm a kawakami fag
>tfw I've made half the sadayo is a slut images
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How the FUCK do I input the south east arrow on Blood Temple.
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>>175264513
Only half? Step it up and while you're at it post all of them.
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>>175264483
I'd tell you but I don't want Haru suddenly falling in love with me because she likes idealizing people before meeting them.
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>>175264407
How would romancing Sae even work? Let's forget that it puts her in even a worse position than Kawakami ethically if she were to date Joker and just focus on how it rewrites most of the narrative.

Could it be done as a NG+ only thing where you have a secret but difficult option to romance Sae in the last act and nothing exactly happens but in NG+ her reaction and questioning of you is different, plus you get to hang out with her?
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>>175263579
You didn't immediate notice that in the awakening scene?
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>>175264462
>I did feel bad
I thought you were the guy who keeps saying "beta bait"
>>175264260
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>>175264252
>feeling bad for beta bait

Meh

>>175264462
Why should that matter? It's her problem if she mistook my intentions with her as anything further from friendship.
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>>175264592
for>>175264462
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>>175264592
Love is just a chemical reaction anon, her brain couldn't help but making her all hot and bothered when she saw Joker's hair and pictured how cute and fluffy their children would look.
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>>175264513
>belewding your own waifu
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>>175264343
So want malevolent being would they accidentally wake up? Nyarly?
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>>175264703
You can stop bragging about how emotionally retarded you are any time now.
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how long til i can fug mitsuru
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>>175264810
>Nyarly

No.
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>>175264083
Good thing Nanjo Group has... oh wait the government was in on the NWO stuff. Dammit.
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>>175264703
So you don't feel bad because it wasn't your doing? You don't feel bad for things that happen to people out of their control?
I feel like I'm talking to an edgy teen. Let me guess, you're dying to say "love is for idiots" right?
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>>175264854
lol
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>>175263974
they'd need to find another god, first
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>>175264808
If you don't do it, someone else will.
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>>175264424
Phoenician, you Hellenfag.
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>>175264781
And that's why she had her heart broken, even if he accepted I'm sure she would have eventually left once the idealized man she though up turned out to be nothing like she imagined.
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>>175264592
Kek.
>>175264657
Not me
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>>175264967
Sound logic.
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>>175264636
>it puts her in even a worse position than Kawakami ethically if she were to date Joker
She's actually younger than Kawakami. Sae is only 24 years old while Kawakami should be at least 3-4 years older.
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>>175260929
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So /pg/, would you buy a Persona 5: Episode Akechi expansion? Be honest.
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Is there a quick way to make money on the last day? I need funds to finish off the compendium.
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So who do you predict is going to be the true bad guy of Persona 6?
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>>175265167
Think about it less in terms of age and more in terms of circumstances. I don't think dating the prime suspect of your case is something that will fly.
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>>175264829
>You're emotionally retarded if you care for beta bait
Wew
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>>175265241
>would I buy it

Yes.

>would I be happy about it

No.
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>>175265167
Sae's age is irrelevant to the ethical aspect of it but the game already sets up Joker as the Delinquent Bad Boy that can date all the girls that would normally avoid his ass like the plague.
I am pretty sure a woman was in charge of all these shoujo-ass romances.
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>>175265252
The mascot
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>>175265252
the funny detective guy
>>175265241
yes
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>think I'm real smart for using based King Frost on the second boss
>kill the boss
>add with 5% health goes ahead and deletes me in a single turn
The Answer doesn't fuck around.
How many floors do I have to go through anyway? ~15 per door, right? R-right?
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>>175265167
>age maters

Lol. Sae is a prosecuter. Her not upholding the law she goes after others for is much more controversial than Kawakami, a teacher, dating one of her students.
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>>175264462

We need an edit of that one anime, RE:Zero or whatever, where Haru gives this long-winded confession scene instead of Rem and Joker just goes "...sorry, I love Futaba".
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>>175265241
Would buy and play while hoping for new fancy memes Tbh.
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>>175265286
*if you don't care

>>175264894
No, it's just that people kept making a big deal of that scene but it was really underwhelming when I got to it
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>>175265203
kek
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>>175262508
they're decent but still a 2013 model with red ear pads and increased price because speshul edishun
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>>175265324
>I am pretty sure a woman was in charge of all these shoujo-ass romances
Who was it? Tell me!
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>>175265434
I don't remember how many floors, but all 3 playthroughs I did clocked in around 22 hours, if that gives you an idea of how long it'll be.
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>>175265546
It was (You)
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>>175264781
>Love is just a chemical reaction anon,
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>>175265454
I like this idea. Doing it
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>>175265454
>Harufags are the same kind of pleb tier that Remfags are
JUST
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>>175265241
Yes. Here's hoping that he get a new costume and playable Loki
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>>175264781
>she saw Joker's hair and pictured how cute and fluffy their children would look.
Sheep children. Catherine connection established.
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>>175265495
>people kept making a big deal of that scene
Yeah that's true I understand that.
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>>175265623
Great, that answers my question just as well. Have a hee ho.
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What if Atlus announces that Persona 5 is going to get a second game and be a duology like Persona 2?
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>>175265241
ABSOLUTELY
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>>175265454
Futabafags are fucking cancerous
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>>175265907
Pretty much everyone would be hyped.
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>>175265673

Holy fuck, Christmas came early.

I am SO looking forward to this, anon!
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>>175265907
I'd be ok with that, BUT, we better have some stuff carry over like who we romanced or something.
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>>175265907
I've said it before. As long as they give me Sae, Katsuya, Ohya, team I'm fine with it.
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>>175265907
we'd better get pancake boy back in the party
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>>175265941
Kys Harufag
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>>175265252
The guy who tells your group that the villain is the funny detective guy.
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>>175265941
Well that came out of nowhere.
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>>175265907
That would be exactly what I want. The question is, aside from Morgana becoming human, what would it be about?
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When are the /v/kids leaving
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>>175265907
/pg/ had speculated it before. Most said that it would be a Maya situation with Goro as protag and Joker as the Tatsuya.
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>>175266039
He was too pure for this world.
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>>175265907
A duology would be great, especially since I don't really want to move away from the Phantom Thief stuff so soon.
Don't know what it could be about though.
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>>175266132
>came out of nowhere
>when Futabafags are making fun of best girl needlessly
Fuck you
>>175266048
No. You're the one who should kill himself
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>>175264279
Here's the album if anyone is interested
http://imgur.com/a/mlcsD
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>>175266148
Ryuji finding a girlfriend.
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>>175265907
As long as it doesn't get stupid with parallel universes or some kind of time travel (which is what I kinda expect from most sequels that come out of nowhere) I'd be cool.
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>>175266212
>>175266148
Goro's good twin that everyone demonizes because they think it's OG Goro and then he snaps.
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>>175266004
Romances aren't canon

People trying to turn Persona into mass effect should be burned alive
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>>175266261
Holy shit, grow some thick skin, you baby
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>>175266261
It's just a prank bro.
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haru drinks poop!
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>>175266403
He's right about futabafags being cancerous though, like people act like Makotofags are bad but there's just a lot of them. Futabafags are mean spirited cunts who would rather see other people unhappy than enjoy their shitty big bang theory midget
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>>175266329
Then can we at least romance the boys this time?
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This thread right now.
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>>175266262
GOTTA MAKE MAKOTO LOOK STRONG
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>>175266496
What makes you think that?
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>>175265941

Awwww, did I trigger you, anon?

I love Haru too and she's the one I'll romance in NG+, but I jist thought that'd be funny.[\spoiler]
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>>175266501
fuck off
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>>175266282
Would time loops be acceptable?
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>>175266496
Seems like they just spam the same images over and over like every other waifufag. I don't think you can attribute the shitflinging to any specific group.
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>>175266501
Only Yusuke
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everyone is pissed right now for no reason
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>>175266262
Haru needs breast reduction surgery!
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waifu's were a mistake
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Don't fight
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>>175266181
That was terrible in EP and it would be terrible in this case.
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>>175266629
Timeloop thing would be interesting.
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>>175262508
I've been using the ones she has at home for a long time and they're great. At least I think that they're the K or Q701/702 series.
You're going to need an amp to drive them though.
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>>175266732
let's spread some good vibes, anon.
why don't we all just relax a bit and listen to some tunes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2P_hqhu5rQ
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>>175266837

Let them fight!
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>>175266821
Romance options were a mistake
Shippers all die
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So what Mementos boss does spit out most money when is confused?
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>>175266496
Most of the Futabafags I see are more likely to spam sappy, mushy melodramatic crap.

I mean, I know I do.

>>175266629
Only if they seem cool at first but ultimately make no goddamn sense. You know, like most time travel stories.
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>>175267039
Ironically, the ones that bothered Kawakami
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Are we just gonna accept that Atlus essentially used the same villain two games in a row?
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>>175266501
Honestly I'd date Yusuke as long as he promises me to draw porn of my favorite seasonal chinese cartoons while I provide him with food.
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>>175267069
>Most of the Futabafags I see are more likely to spam sappy, mushy melodramatic crap.

yes due to their childish nature, children are also the meanest creatures on earth
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>>175267039
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>>175266262
Oh man, brotag looks really fat there
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>>175267054
I want to love this dork tenderly.
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>>175267112
You mean a god that represents the Ills of humanity? They been doing that for like 30 years.
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Sae is proseCUNT
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>>175267241
Sure, all you need is to be the most charming dude on school.
You can do at least that, right anon?
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>>175267039
The boss doesn't matter, only your luck does. 40 luck is pretty easy to get and gives you around 100k every time
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>>175267095
You can confuse them? When I tried it always missed.
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>>175267039
It's entirely based on your Luck stat.

>>175267209
Someone needs to delete the Futaba mission from this though, those broke-ass fuckers only drop 1 yen at a time.
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>>175267114
That's not really dating, it's just a mutually beneficial friendship
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>>175267206
I meant more mushy romantic stuff, but whatever.
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>>175267329
That's just RNG for you. I got it on the first cast
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>>175267114
damn that's pretty pathetic anon
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Is he right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfEFtVPFWzw
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>>175267303
>Sure, all you need is to be the most charming dude on school.
Not really.
Besides, with Makoto I can be the most charming dude on the planet.
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>>175267383
No, It's based on the enemy level.

>>175267497
No
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>>175267383
>those broke-ass fuckers only drop 1 yen at a time.
That's a nice attention to detail
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>>175267383
Apparently, based on some comments on the video this pic came from, on the Futaba mission it's random which of the two will drop 1 yen. The other will drop normal amounts of money.
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So how powerful are attendants anyway?

Margaret says she'd be insulted if you attack her with anything but intent to kill and she handled herself just fine
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>>175267293
I want Sae to cross examine me
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>>175267518
>I can be the most charming dude on the planet.
I highly doubt that
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>>175267609
I couldn't even confuse the Succubus, and I tried A LOT. The Incubus got confused every time though and only dropped 1 yen.
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>>175267069

Same here senpai.

I think all girls have their merits but I love sappy, cheesy shit. I won't get buttmad over other people having other waifus/ships. That's just fucking retarded.
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>>175267518
>Besides, with Makoto I can be the most charming dude on the planet.

That's not how it works at all
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>>175267293
prosecutie
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>>175266496
This.
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What was Nyarlathotep's fucking problem, and why hasn't he appeared in any other game since 2?
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>>175267807
Play P2 and you will find out.
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>>175267653
It's all about passion, Anon. When you love someone being charming comes naturally, as an instinct. Just don't be socially retarded, and you're good to go.
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>>175267872
>Just don't be socially retarded
Good one.
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>Labrys has exhaust ports!
>Labrys is well built!
>Labrys is beautiful!
>Labrys is shiny!
>Labrys is cute!
>Labrys has a chain knuckle!
>Labrys is an angel!
>Labyrs is innocent!
>Labrys is sad!
>Labrys is silly!
>Labrys is for kisses!
>Labrys is cool!
>Do not fist robot girls!
>Labrys is awesome!
>Labrys is sultry!
>Labrys is pure!
>Labrys is amused!
>Labrys is quality!
>Labrys is Wheel of Fortune!
>Labrys is canon!
>Labrys is a toaster!
>Labrys is a robot!
>Labrys is a Shadow Operative!
>Labrys is Robot Jesus!
>Labrys is Labrys, not Rabirisu!
>Labrys is best girl!
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>>175267868
Where can I play it?
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>>175261439
Because he wasn't an ace detective? All the crimes he "solved" were actually crimes he commited.

A better question is how Akechi took so long to realize he got tricked, I don't get how he got out of the metaverse without realizing he just got fucked.
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>>175267872
>When you love someone being charming comes naturally, as an instinct
Never change anon. you're gold
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>>175267687
Then stop making fun of other girls, pedofag
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>>175267981
Wherever you are currently posting from.
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>>175267979
labrys is shit
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>>175267632
She actively prevents you from using the strongest, best shit against her which you would do if you intended to kill her. So I just think shes a dumb baby.
>>
>Shido enrages MC
>Attack reflects
>OHKO
T-thanks, i'll pack phys block personas next round
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>>175267872
This is fedora tier
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>>175267872
>When you love someone being charming comes naturally, as an instinct.

That's not true at all, I'm very charming and I have a dislike for almost everyone I meet.

Sounds like you're just one of those neets who think "oh if this one thing was different I'd be such a better person" and don't realize that all your problems are because of yourself and not the situation you're in.
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So do the velvet twins in P5 have an instant Megidolaon murder spell if you do something in particular?
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>>175267872
She's so cute

I'll better myself for her sake
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>>175268047
Is it on the Vita's PSP library?
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>>175268128
>I'm very charming
This fucking general
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>>175268109
>he didn't ruin his first playthrough by farming Reaper to 99
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>>175268048
What about Metis?
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>>175268128
>I'm very charming and I have a dislike for almost everyone I meet.
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>>175268278
>needing to look up your /v/ reaction images on imgur
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>>175268278
I'll have you know I take a hot bath AT LEAST once a week, those charm points must have added up to something by now.
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>>175267303
In my alternative power fantasy reality i can! :^)
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>>175268546
She needs to get a better fitting bra/bikini top
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>>175267497
Sorry, I don't have technology to read person's mind to see if they have lied in their expression of a opinion.
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>>175267992
That's how it always worked for me. "Just be yourself" is cliche as fuck but everything always comes down to it. Everyone can be charming (it's not really that difficult) but most of us are too self-conscious and afraid. That's literally the only problem here.
>>175268223
That's the spirit. If you want to make yourself better in terms of charm and sociability - public speaking is your best bet. It will help you a lot.
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>>175267807
He was only giving humans what they wanted. What a loving father.
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>>175268565

Makoto has unrealistic expectations even in a self insert wish fulfillment simulator


>>175268634

Even with no top her tits shouldn't be swinging around like fried eggs hanging on a nail
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>farming out 100,000 fishing points for Soul Vest
>almost there, at 90,000
>need to buy more large bait
>accidentally hit the left directional button before I press X
>buy 99 bait for 30,000 points
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>175268694
Yeah, posting on a taiwanese cave painting forum sure shows how great your charm is
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>>175268014

Anon, are you okay? You're taking this too seriously.
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>>175268753
How good is the Soul Vest? I've just been using the Satan armor.
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>>175268753
Just get a Soul Vest+ from laundry gear my dude
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>>175267518
>Visit her on her birthday
>Just tells you to leave her alone
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>>175268694

You should probably be less like yourself
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>>175268546
VOLDO
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>>175268884
How does laundry work, anyway?
Can you save scum it?
Do the results depend on where you are in the story or is it random?
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>>175268745
>Makoto has unrealistic expectations even in a self insert wish fulfillment simulator
How did you manage to be this much of a loser even in your power fantasy escapism game?
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>>175268948
She had an argument about birthday cakes with Sae before coming to school.
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>>175268745
My 2nd option asked me for level 5 proficency, so im fucked either way.
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>>175269038
She asks for both smarts and great looks when all she is supbar in both herself
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>>175269038

Unrealistic for her, Makoto

It's like charging extra for vanilla
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>>175269145
>subpar in smarts
Top of her class
>subpar in looks
>best ass/hips in the game
>qt short hair
>red eyes
It's not nice to lie
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>>175269180
She's even less than vanilla, she's like shaved ice
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>>175268745
>Makoto has unrealistic expectations even in a self insert wish fulfillment simulator
That's not her expectations though, it's Eiko's expectations. The only reason you can't progress is because Eiko doesn't agree to a double date with you, Makoto says that herself. Makoto herself needs Knowledge - and that's obvious, she wouldn't date a dumbass.
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>>175269282
>Top of her class

If you tell her you get better grades than her she says that's not important
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>>175269282
"Top of her class" means shit when you're socially retarded.
>hips
Only looks good because spandex
>hair
Is dumb
>red eyes
Makes her look like a rat
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>>175269289
>shaved ice
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>>175269412
Ok Anon, you don't like Makoto, we get it.
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>>175269180
Ann is the vanilla girl this time around
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>>175269282
Her life skills are none, being book smart means nothing if you can't apply it.
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>>175269491
He's not wrong tho,
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So I just beat the game so spoilers ahead I guess but

Did I just summon Satan to fire a bullet into the fucking face of God?

I'm not much of a lore buff on SMT, having only played P3, P4, P5 and SMTIV, but is that what basically happened?
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>>175269412
Well, looks like someone is extra salty.
https://strawpoll.com/2f6y298
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>>175268745
>Makoto has unrealistic expectations even in a self insert wish fulfillment simulator
1. It's a fucking video game.
2. If you should hate someone for that lvl 5 Charm roadblock - hate Eiko. She's the problem, not Makoto.
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>>175269385
Because it's not? She doesn't wants you to be super smart like Mitsuru
>>175269412
>socially retarded.
That's what makes her cute
>Only looks good because spandex
Only brings up her natural assets
>hair
>not liking short hair
>red eyes
>disliking red eyes in muh anime game
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>>175269653
Satanael is a different sort of being, but without going into it, yes.
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>>175268845
It's shit. Don't waste time on it.
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>>175269653
If you've played other SMT games, you should be used to this
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Why is Igor's English va different as well? I thought it was only his jap va that passed away?
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>>175269678
Nah, Makoto agrees with Eiko if you haven't made it past the roadblock. Eiko says that you suck whether your Charm is maxed or not.
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>>175269685
>I find retards cute

Whatever floats your boat, then
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>>175269685
Mitsuru is worth it
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>>175269761
Igor is the killer.
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stop talking about makoto holy shit
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>>175260189
She's in her 20s though. Most of us are actually closer in age to Kawakami than any of the girls Joker's age so in that way it's less creepy for us as players.
Calm down, it's not like we're the ones cradle robbing.
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I know Satanael is probably considered an overdesigned edgelord but I love his design so fucking much.

That red ribbon thing he's wearing looks so cool too.
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>>175269509
She applied it when she made the plan to fool Goro and when she learned street smarts in her SL to fool that piece of shit host
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>>175269712

What this anon said.

>>175269761

Get the fuck out of here, now.

It's explained in the game.
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>>175269761
Get out until you finish the game you colossal nerd
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>>175269653
>Did I just summon Satan to fire a bullet into the fucking face of God?
That's like triple wrong.
Satanael is basically gnostic counterpart to Lucifer with elements of Prometheus, and Yaldy is also from gnostic tradition - he is the Demiurge, basically false god/God's evil half, sometimes equated to Yahweh's asshole phase, aka Old Testament God from Judeo-Christian tradition. This is also Persona, and not mainline SMT, so they are not really, well, real, but are more akin to tulpas born from human cognition.
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>>175269705
And was that other thing really God, as in the Biblical, Christian God?

>>175269712
I never finished P3 or SMTIV, but I remember something similar happening in P4 with Izanagi and Izanami. But nothing quite on the scale of Satan shooting God in the fucking head.
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>>175269861
>>175269887
You stupid fucks, even the real Igor's voice is a different actor.
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>>175269891
>Persona: Tulpa Battles
this made me laugh
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>>175269772
Makoto only says "You do look a bit disheveled", that's all. If Eiko did not have a problem with you, there would've been no roadblock. Atlus did it that way specifically so it wouldn't look like Makoto asks too much of you.
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>>175269891
>>175269653
Oh, and also Satan and Lucifer are different beings in SMT, Satan is in cahoots with God, and Lucifer's the rebel.
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>>175269861
>It's explained in the game
Not that anon, but I don't think that's what he was asking. He was asking about Igor Igor, who still has a different voice from the original Igor.
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>>175269965
no, it was god as in the gnostic god as >>175269891 says
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>>175269861
>>175269887
I'm on NG+ but used the Jap audio my first playthrough. I'm talking about the real Igor. Using English audio now and his new voice sounds like ass.
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>>175269989
In the knowledge check she literally says "You're not worth my time" if you don't meet it
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>>175269776
Makoto is too
>>175269774
Being socially awkward =/= retard
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>>175270035
Because Atlus USA didn't bother to bring the old VA back.
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I like Fake Igor's voice a lot more than Real Igor's
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>>175270071
you need to get more makoto pics
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I want to force-feed Yusuke until he pops
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>>175258176
Nanjo group is mentioned in name by Mitsuru's father and in the school's emblem things.
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>>175269479
Hiruta sensei stop it.
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>>175270068
That's because Knowledge is her real requirement, that's how you grab her attention. And, well, if you don't have lvl 3 Knowledge you ARE a retard by this game's logic.
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>>175270035
>Igors voice changed
>Everyone said the VA died and Atlus Japan changed it entirely because trying to fill his shoes with a similar voice was disrespectful
>Plot twist happens
>They mimic his old voice with Real Igor's VA

welp
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>>175269891
I think the best part about the Satanael killing Yaldy is that, well, they're both false god entities.
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>>175269891
>>175270010
>>175270029
That's still pretty fucking awesome. How do I get into SMT lore? Do I just play all the games starting from NES up to 3DS? Or is there like book of canon?
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>>175269989
>Makoto only says "You do look a bit disheveled", that's all
Which doesn't have anything to do with what they're trying to accomplish. Eiko says that you suck regardless, so it's Makoto's opinion that affects you going along with the plan.

Why should she care if you look "a bit disheveled" anyway? You're just going along with her stupid plan to snoop on her pal's bf. She IS asking too much of you, especially since you're doing her a favor by pretending to be her boyfriend to begin with.
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>>175270263
>justifying asshole behavior
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>>175269837
I thought it was Futaba and Morgana that made the plan
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>>175270112
For real? That's fucking lame.
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>>175270175
i have 231 im willing to share
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>>175269808
I want to play P5 EP with Goro!
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>>175270328
its was, Makoto just repeated it to feel smart
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>>175269828
I wouldn't call him over designed, he suits Joker perfectly.

Just giving him Satan wouldn't fit, Satan is supposed to be YHVH's judge, Satanael judges god(s)
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>>175270129
Real Igor's English voice was changed and I don't like it. It used to be Ikutsuki's voice. Now he sounds like a nerd.
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>>175270328
Wasn't it a team effort?
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>>175270328
But Makoto beat up a pussified version of Goro, she was clearly the most important person in this plan.
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>>175270452
Yes but it was mostly Morgana and Futaba, Makoto didn't really do anything extra.
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>>175270452
Everyone had their role to play, but Futaba and Morgana came up with the whole thing.
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>>175270380
>>175270460
Damn Makotofags trying to steal the thunder from the real brainiacs!

>>175270452
No. The team effort would be just everyone setting it up.
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>>175265241

only if its just getting to dick around and murder people and make e u e face as you watch them have mental shutdowns on telly knowing it was your handy work
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>be a japanese police officer, loving the whole protect and serve deal
>some asshole crashes an entire house with his car
>one survivor, a kid
>horrible stuff
>trying to get a statement out of him
>he says some guy summoned a demon horse that brought down the whole house
>mfw
Fucking kids these days.
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>>175270035
I think it's the same reason they didn't bring him back for the spinoffs, voice actors union forces them to pay a minimum rate even there's only like 10 minutes of voice work.

Since they reused lines of dead igor in JP they just got another guy who was already doing a lot of lines to read igor's part in English.
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>>175270452
Morgana and Futaba came up with the entire plan, but just before the day they were supposed to execute it I thought Makoto brought up the point about having to deal with metaverse Goro
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>>175269989
>"Thanks for going along with my plan and pretending to be my boyfriend, I dont know who I would have asked if you said no"
>"Actually wait nevermind you look kinda shitty, I'd rather not be seen in public with you"
Makoto's kind of a cunt desu
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>>175270291
There is generally no connection from game to game, unless they share the same number, so there's no real need to go back. Game-specific lore is usually explained in the relative game to some degree, but the basics that generally stay the same is that there's god - YHVH, who stands for Law, and Lucifer, who stands for Chaos, and they try to defeat each other, often through intermediaries, and that's basically it, details change from game to game, but the core is always the same, at least in mainline games.
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>>175270298
>Which doesn't have anything to do with what they're trying to accomplish. Eiko says that you suck regardless, so it's Makoto's opinion that affects you going along with the plan.
Nope. What they're trying to accomplish is to make Eiko accept you, which she does at lvl 5. Eiko admits it in a nervous breakdown later on. Makoto's opinions don't influence anything here.
>Why should she care if you look "a bit disheveled" anyway? You're just going along with her stupid plan to snoop on her pal's bf.
Yeah, but that plan wouldn't work until Eiko accepts you. That's why you start grinding, in-universe it would look like a typical makeover montage.
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>>175270729
mumumu
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>>175270365
link?
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>>175270729
RIP Mumumu.
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>>175269772
No. She just doesn't think she can pass you off as charming in person until you're at 5. When you get there she explains she thinks she can. She wants to make sure her plan will work, it's nothing against you.
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>>175270729
She's got the voice for a top tier waifu, but none of the other features that comprise one
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>>175270035
Long story short, union bullshit resulted in ATLUS getting declared Haram by popular murrican VAs, which the blew up in said VAs faces because ATLUS is now considered one of the few big budget places for small time VAs to become large time and not get buried by said union to protect it's older talent.

Result is some choppy VA here and there, but the ones that shine really, REALLY fucking shine. Ryuji, Yusuke, and Sojiro in particular are quite good.
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>>175270861
but why does it keep you from romancing her
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>>175270738
Like I said - it's Eiko, not Makoto. Makoto doesn't have anything against you, but Eiko sure does (especially since she was jealous of Makoto).
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>>175270872
I checked out some of her dates and she's actually really adorable during them. I guess most people want someone who's immediately on your dick though
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>>175270909
Becasue Makoto doesn't realize she likes you for your personality until you're the most handsome kid in school.
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>>175270909
Because she's preoccupied with her friend's troubles until you resolve them.
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>>175270872
she will never mumumu agaIn
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>>175270810
if i can get my fucking mega to work sure
i got em off another anon while me and him were gathering caption pics and sharing them, total is 350+ so i'll throw them in too once my mega's sorted
they are incredibly useful
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>>175270315
>Woman having standards is asshole behavior
I hope you marry the first retarded landwhale who asks you out anon
>B-buh it's not romantic at first
You're right. But she's the class prez and has to make sure you aren't just slacking off.
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Does anyone know the actual percentage of EXP boost you get for maxing Moon?
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>>175270909
It doesn't keep you from romancing her, it keeps you from progressing her Link. You might not end up as lovers by the end of it.
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>>175271015
>for your personality
She's into Yakuza. She probably only likes Joker because of his criminal record. She probably dumps him as soon as credits roll when he no longer has it.
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>>175271015
>Becasue Makoto doesn't realize she likes you for your personality until you're the most handsome kid in school.

It hurts that this is actually kind of true
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>>175271091
Having standards you yourself don't measure up to is pretty dickish
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>>175271060
I still have my link, though i got some new images in the past 2 days.
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>>175271163
>She probably only likes Joker because of his criminal record.
Except it's the opposite.
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Would Makoto let me fuck Sae, I feel bad for her
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>>175271180
She's top of the class until you reach max knowledge. At 3 knowledge, you're only just average.
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>>175271091
You aren't even romancing her, you're literally just asking to hang out with a friend of yours
Imagine you had a friend.
Now imagine you ask that friend to hang out. Their reply is "You're not worth my time".
If you're justifying that answer, you're a socially inept retard.
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>>175270750
So Yaldi-something in P5 was sent by YHVH to fuck around with people in Tokyo, but then Lucifer jumped in at the last second and sent in Satanael?
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>>175271163
>She probably only likes Joker because of his criminal record.
Most of the girls' archetypes play into popular romance combinations once Joker becomes the designated delinquent/bad boy character.
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>>175271180
She doesn't care about your charm, she cares about your brains. And since she's top of her class, her knowledge is level 5. She only asks for level 3.
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>>175271330
>scholarly is average
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>>175270423
Isn't Satan pretty neutral in SMT? He wasn't that fond of YHVH in SMTIV right.
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>>175271347
Trying to mix what happens in Persona to mainline, just results in missing the fucking point.
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>People bringing up Makoto's Charm requirement again
Reminder you need max courage to talk with an over the hill Yakuza despite fighting eldritch abominations made of human psyche
And Max knowledge to go punch an old woman's shadow
And needing to reach 'Can Communicate with animals' level of Understanding for Nananko to tell her super special big bro about a piece of paper she needs to give her loving but just constantly busy father
Using the meta of the game as an argument is futile and absurd.
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>>175265454
>>175265991
One billion seconds in paint. I feel autistic doing it since the scene was just a lot of close-ups of their faces anyway, nothing to edit but here you go.
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>>175271331
>Their reply is "You're not worth my time".
Can you give me the screenshot of that reply? Because I very much doubt Atlus would word it like that, she's less harsh when you she doesn't even know you.
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>>175271609
I don't have a screenshot of it, but I remember that it was that wording exactly quite vividly, because I was so shocked at how unbelievably mean it was.
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>>175271609
I think it's when she's standing outside the library and you try to hang out with her.
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>>175271482
I didn't play Final but Satan is usually ultimate lawfag and Lucifer/Helel is ultimate chaosfag
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>>175271547
You only need Rank 4 Guts to talk to Iwai. Issues about courage are a bit different though, you have Personas to back you up against those eldritch abominations, nut in the real world you ain't shit.
You need Rank 5 for the meetup with Tsuda, which makes perfect sense.
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>>175271396
It is. When you're at that level you can only be in the middle of your class's rankings during the exams even if you get all the answers right.
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>>175271347
Well in the overarching story of Persona it takes place in an earth cut off from the Amala network long ago by unknown forces, possibly elder gods, so YHVH is unlikely.

If anything yabbadabbadoo is a shard of Nyarlothotep stemming from a combination of human spiritual sloth and his personal desire for control

The Satanael is basically just Joker focusing the positive aspects of classical sin like righteous indignation, desire for change, etc. into a singular avatar. Possibly with assistance from Philemon.
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>>175271712
Well, then you'll understand if I don't trust you.
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>>175271790
You read wrong, you're ABOVE the middle names
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>>175270380
> says "I have a plan, listen closely" in regards to how they'll deal with groo as well as mcs fake death

> futaba and morgana made the whole plan

wut
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>>175271804
"Do you think Joker knows any good routines? I've seen him come in here a lot lately."
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>>175271804
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>>175271712

im sorry class prez whos being hounded by the principle and her sister to be perfect and is juggling on keeping up those expectations didnt have time for your troglodyte ass bc u ignore stat building
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>>175271781
>You need Rank 5 for the meetup with Tsuda, which makes perfect sense.
No it doesn't.
At that point in the game you've already run in to Save Makoto in a club FILLED with Yakuza, all of who are younger and more fit than Tsuda and possibly just as armed EACH.
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>>175271804
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>>175271847
Can't find a video, but here's a post by someone on GameFAQs that corroborates my story.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/835628-persona-5/75259775
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>>175271712
Actually I remember that now. I also remember someone explaining it was a poor translation. She's less harsh in the original.
>>
sae niijima: ace attorney when
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>>175272016
and then her shins split after 2 weeks.
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>>175271590

KEK.

Great job, anon.

We need a video version with "YOU NEVER SEE IT COMIIIIIN'" when Joker drops the bomb. One more project to add to thr backburner I guess.
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>>175271907
They even say Makoto came up with the suggestion in the explanation scene. I don't know how people miss this.
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>>175272150
Might as well just give Mary Sue credit for everything that goes well huh?
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>>175270328
>>175270710
>>175270613
No. Futaba and Morgana set the app to get physical proof on Goro's betrayal and then showed it to everyone

You guys need to replay the game
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>>175271763
In Final he (spoilers) basically sides with you so he can test your worthiness vs YHVH's as ruler of the universe, or just does it because "whatever lol" depending on the ending.

Also, Lucifer and Merkabah are both halves of Satan that simply exist to fight each other and keep YHVH in power. They fuse together into Satan at the end of the game.
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>>175272230
You don't know what that word means do you Anon?
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>>175271994
...shit you're right.
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>>175272303
Nobody does.
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Does no one else unironically wish Mishima was an part of the Phantom Thieves and not their errand boy?

I mean, he knows your fucking secret from the get go and he's the guy who helps you identify those sexual predators, pedophiles, assassins, and so on in Mementos.
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>>175271994
The thing that threw me off was that they referred to Kaneshiro and pals as "the mafia" while they have no problem referring to the Yakuza in other parts of the game.
What was the deal there?
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>>175272341
>credits himself for all your success and tries to sic the PT on his middle school bullies
Nah
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>>175272303
>Makoto
>not Hashino's self insert
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>>175271347
>So Yaldi-something in P5 was sent by YHVH to fuck around with people in Tokyo, but then Lucifer jumped in at the last second and sent in Satanael?
No, Yaldy is just a tulpa that has grown so powerful because of so many people's desire for powerful leadership so that they wouldn't need to decide anythign for themselves. Satanael is just the ultimate form of Joker's persona, symbolizing ultimate rebellion of sorts, that he managed to awaken because people started to believe in Phantom Thieves en masse. Remember, most mythological beings in Persona only exist because people believe in them, or have a concept of them, there are actual supernatural entities, but they are few and in-between, and usually either are exclusive to Persona series, or haven't played an important part in mainline SMT for a while. YHVH and Lucifer don't seem to exist in Persona universe, at least not as "real" entities.
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>>175272341
Nah, his heart was in the right place but he waved even harder than Ryuji.
He only got his resolve at the very end.
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>>175272341
I would've liked for Mishima to be a party member and for Rie Kugimiya to voice one of the party members so I could run around with Gintama squad the whole game.
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>>175272421
Yes she is not.
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>>175272341
He could have been the navigator honestly desu
>>175272417
He fixes that issue through his confidant to be fair
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>>175272341

or at least treat him like info hq and not constantly lying to his face or straight up bullying him mishimas an annoying shit but he does a lot for the PT as well as has y'alls back when your reputation is going to shit no questions or suspicions
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>>175272341
No, PT needed a Jimmy Olsen

I would have liked more scenes like the end where he's petitioning for Joker or rallying the crowd so he wasn't a complete buttmunch for most of the game.

But I don't think he should have been a full member.
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>>175271781
Stats never make sense because to befriend everyone you'll need to be basically perfect in all aspects. Haru asks for maximum proficiency (enough to make an eternal fucking lockpick out of literal garbage) to help her with flowers.
That's just video game logic, you shouldn't be paying attention to it.
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>>175271994
I honestly really hated that about her S.Link. At least with Haru it makes some sense to need Rank 5 Proficiency

>>175272051
>Makoto is honestly the worst character

Heh. He's not wrong though

>>175272150
>>175272241
I don't know what kind of black market shit you guys bought from Tanaka, but I want some.
>>
>Leader
Joker
>Senior Advisor
Mona
>Enforcer
Skull
>Strategist
Queen
>Analyst/Spy/Navigator
Oracle

What're Yusuke, Ann, and Haru supposed to be?
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>>175272016
That's not that much actually, professional sportsmen do several times that much for their workout.
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>>175272410
I think it's just more proof that the Kanshiro part of the story was done by the B Writing team while the rest focused on Futaba's section.
Kaneshiro will always feel like filler.
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>>175272230
>She' doesn't do shit, she's dumb!!!

>She does everything! She's Mary sue!!

She can't win
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Alright guys tell me what I'm doing wrong here, Ama

>9/20 Tuesday

>Knowledge, Charm, Guts & Proficiency all 4.
>Kindness 3

>Igor: 8
>Morgana: 8
>Makoto: 1
>Yusuke: 6
>Sojiro: 6
>Ann: 2
>Ryuji: 9
>Goro: 3
>Futaba: 1
>Twins: 1
>Iwai: 2
>Tae: 5
>Kawakami: 3
>Ohya: 2
>Hifumi: 3
>Yuuki: 3
>Good-Guy Tora: 7
>Sae: 4

Also first time playing a persona game
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>>175272560
Yusuke: Comic Relief
Ann: Eye Candy
Haru: Best Girl
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>>175272606
I think it's more like the things she does do are stating obvious shit and being sucked off for it.
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>>175272438
People need to stop mixing in Mainline with Persona, Lucifer isn't really all that important in the Persona line of games.
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>>175272560
muscle for y and a
haru might be financial backing
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>>175272532
>At least with Haru it makes some sense to need Rank 5 Proficiency
Mother fucker I can stick planets in the ground too. It does not make sense you need to be 'Above the point I can lockpick a broken lock' level of proficiency.
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>>175272612
>Alright guys tell me what I'm doing wrong here
Everything.
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>>175272606
She has a lot of followers, Anon. It's alright.
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>>175272410

I just figured they're not the same. I think they say "mafia" with JP voices too.

Like how Triads and the Yakuza are not the same, despite being organized crime establishments.
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>>175272612
Get on doing those Twins requests you lazy shit.
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What exactly is the point of Futaba's gear?
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>>175272532
Maybe try replaying the game, senpai? There is a scene explicitly showing that she's the one who came up with the ruse
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>>175272673
But Naoto did the exact same thing in P4.
She just listed off everything we knew but with more syllables and everyone loves her.
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>>175272612
>Twins at 1
You better start fuckin' doing those anon, or you're gonna regret it
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>>175272561
That's the joke, he attributes his godlike strength to a relatively unremarkable training routine. The next page is everyone calling him out on it.

Running 10km every day with no rest in between would probably kill you, though.
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>Lavenza tells Joker she loves him
>Joker doesn't immediately take her into the cell and pound that loli with everything he has
Fuck this.
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>>175272612
>Kawakami at 3
>Chihaya at 0

Anon...
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>>175272797
It looks cool.
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>>175272560
The only roles that actually matter are Morgana and Joker, everyone else has useful abilities and contribute fairly equally.

Futaba being a bit more useful by nature of being an actual genius and that being story relevant but it balances out by her being not that great of a navigator

Haru is actually pushed at bit for being extremely competent on top of being rich. Remember she's the one who saved Morgana and was doing "ok" in the palace on her own despite not having a fully awakened persona.
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>>175272847
I didn't say shit about Naoto, nor did anyone. It is possible for them both to be lazy characters.
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>>175272847
And that's why I'm not especially fond of either of them.
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>He was good when nobody else was
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>>175272890
I mean her actual gear, like her Protector/Accessory. Does it serve any purpose whatsoever?
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>>175272980
Nope. I've heard boosting her luck improves the odds of her giving support but I've never seen proof.
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>>175272873
He gets a non-degenerate girlfriend at that point.
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>>175272980
I saw some people say that her Luck affects how much she supports you, but that sounds like bullshit to me. Especially since her Luck drops dramatically when she awakens.
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>>175272980
Give her stuff with +Luck and she'll cast buffs more often.
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>>175272560
>Seducer/Distraction
Ann
>Artist (The one who draw the calling card)
Yusuke
>Backer/Benefactor
Haru
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does anyone else suck shit at persona like me i suck at time management so i always focus on obsessively maxing skills 1st playthrough dipping my toes into SLs and then NG+ finally max everyone out
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>>175272870
Shit really?
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>>175272692
You have to be CAREFUL with the plants though senpai! Otherwise they'll blow up in your face!
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>>175273139
no, you can do all the twin requests in one day
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Is it possible to fail out of a Social Link?

I flaked on Chihaya to do something else and she hasn't been available to hang out the past few days.

I don't have a save from before that either, unless I want to run it back two months...
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>>175273139
If you want to use any of the more powerful endgame Personas then yes.

Also do Kawakami as well, her rank 10 reward is arguably the most useful in the game.
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>>175273139
It's never really "too late" to start their confidant, since you can go 1-10 in literally one day if you've got the money. But you will regret it if you don't get them to max rank before the end of the game.
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>>175273139
Ye
You'll be able to strengthen personas, use them to craft the most powerful gear, and fuse above your level.
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>>175273226
It's still a good idea to do them a soon as you can
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>>175272612
Literally everything.
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>>175273272
Chihaya is inarguably the best in the game.
Then Kawakami.

Twins are the best for gameplay, especially if you count NG+.
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>>175272673
The plan to ruse Goro was her repeating shit?
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>>175273139
I highly recommend doing them ALL the moment you hit level 51. There's no real reason not to do them sooner, but you get a massive benefit from it.
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>>175272847
Even most Naotofags wont defend the awful writing in P4.

You can like a character without needing to defend every little thing about them or how well parts of them are written.

Though I would say Naoto gets off a bit easier because Naoto is dumbed down to fit in with the IT while Makoto's informed qualities make her stick out for reasons she doesn't need to.

>>175273261
No, s-links can't reverse like in P3
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>>175272886
It seems I have unpopular opinions
I dont like any of the adult women and I think Ann is a thot
Also dont like makoto
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Anyone else mad as fuck the Phan-Site percentage is fully out of your control?
That was one of the things I was interested about before the game came out and that I could change it by doing stuff outside main missions like the requests. Nope.
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>>175273373
kind of, yes. Futaba initially had the idea, then Makoto comes back with something like "Yes, that may be our only option"
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>>175273468
I feel like a big part of the story went over your head
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>>175273261
No, you can always continue it later. Are you sure that you don't just have a Mementos request blocking you from continuing?

>>175273272
Chihaya Rank 7 > Kawakami Rank 10.
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>>175273403
>No, s-links can't reverse like in P3
So is she just gonna cold shoulder me for a while or something?

That's a relief. The main thing I wanted to do was max SL so I get to see everything.
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>>175273373
That's a problem of show don't tell.
They just said the character did it. No showing, just telling. You could have put anyone's name down for making the plan and it would be fine. Before you say "Ryuji couldn't cause he's established as dumb", that is true. However, Makoto is only established as smart in the first place BY stating the obvious and being jerked off everytime she does so.
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>>175273468
>is angry that public opinion isn't something they can control
>expects others to be as well

Wow anon.
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>>175273404
Its not that you dont like them, its that their bonuses are incredibly beneficial. One gives you double points to your confidants and the other saves you loads of time for things like coffee or laundry, and lets you tell morgana to fuck off after you go to mementos or a palace
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>>175273404
even if you don't want to fuck them you should max them out
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>>175273567
I'm only Rank 2 or something. She shot me a text and I think I trained my Charm instead
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>>175273526
lol replay the game. Futaba didn't come up with any plan.

Joke and Mona approached her and asked her to rig Goro's phone. She did so and got physical proof of his betrayal, then she showed it to everyone and Makoto says that she has a plan for it.
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>>175273404
>and I think Ann is a thot

Objectively wrong though, Anne is a sweetheart who genuinely cares about her friends.

>>175273578
>So is she just gonna cold shoulder me for a while or something?

I'm not sure what her schedule is but I don't think she has any gating except her mementos request
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>>175273526
Makoto says she had something to say about that. Futaba then reaches an epiphany and says there's a way to achieve all their goals to turn the tables, and suggests letting Joker get killed in the palace. Makoto affirms and says she has a plan to get it done, which means she had already thought about it.
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>>175273706
Have you read this part yet? >>175273584
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>>175273706
https://youtu.be/ZgJ1Ek1CxYg?t=4m30s
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>>175273531
Yes I understand it's a story thing, but I wanted it to be a gameplay thing.
Like in a town building game where you go from a small village to a small city, yadda yadda. You get a sense of accomplishment from seeing your actions have an effect on the world.
I just feel detached when my requests are just things for Mishima's S.Link and the one offs for the others
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Its finally here, my l4ds!
Loved P5 so much i ordered this baby 2 weeks ago.
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>>175273913
Nice feather duster
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>>175273584
She's estabilished as smart because she's student council prez and gets good grades. Being smart is part of her character, complaining about that is like complaining about Futaba being world tier hacker

>We didn't see her doing i-it
The plan to ruse Goro was sucessful
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>>175273963
ty <3
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OK, that's it. I'm done.

This is the SECOND time I've wiped on the final Mementos dungeon. Each time I GET THE AMBUSH. Each time I use my BEST SKILLS. And each time they MISS. Then the enemies CRIT, and I DIE.

I'm done with this RNG garbage. I suffered through most of the game because the plot and characters are great, but now there are no more confidant scenes so I see no point in continuing with this utter trash.

Oh, and inb4 LOL CASUL FAGGOT. I've beaten far harder games than this. This game is NOT hard. I like games that are hard. This game is unfair, and it is unfun. Rolling dice and having to redo an hour of playtime every time the numbers come up wrong is not fun.
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>>175273913
a...are you gonna play on that old CRT?
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>>175273913
how fucking old is that phillips in the background?
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>>175274073
Save often and use buffs, faglord.
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>>175274073
Holy shit.
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>>175273913
Have fun anon
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>>175274073
Is this pasta?

>>175274121
>not having CRTs

They're max comfy
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>>175274073
>I suffered through most of the game because the plot and characters are great
You could've just switched to Safe and enjoyed the game, you know.
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>>175274073
git gud
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>>175274073
Did you forget to take your pancakes?
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>>175273913
>l4ds
>>175273976
Futaba being a world tier hacker is stupid. They give her a more dedicated background to it, but it's still a poor explanation. Makoto is still written as smart because she's smart. The plan was successful, of course, because the plot demands it.
I can credit the fact that Makoto is previously found only studying in the library before she joins your team, but that only means she studies a lot. That is it. Additionally, being a student council president does not say anything about how smart you are. It shows dedication or diligence.
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>>175274073
LOL CASUL FAGGOT
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>>175274156
I saved at the start of the dungeon, and wiped twice before I got to any save point.

Buffs don't make much of a difference, and I'm certainly not using expensive buffs on cannon fodder enemies.
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>>175273913
>duster
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>>175273812
That only confirmed that she made the plan, my mate

Futaba came up with the idea to use the Palace but not the operation
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>>175274073
If you're not going to use Auto-Masuku like someone who isn't retarded you deserve to lose.
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>>175274073
>no phys null personas

You deserve it
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>>175274241
>make the gameplay even more boring

No thanks, I'm done. I don't see any point in continuing now that I can't do any more confidants.
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>>175274317
How is SP even an issue at that point in the game?
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>>175274317
>Buffs don't make much of a difference, and I'm certainly not using expensive buffs on cannon fodder enemies.

If you're not gonna take steps to remedy the problem then stop complaining.
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>>175274241
ok whose the Anon responsible for these and where can I learn such caligraphy drawing skills
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>>175274121
I used this one to play with my ps3 until 2 or 3 years ago.
I have my ps4 and PC with the same monitor

>>175274138
More than 10 years, if my memory is good. I can't believe that thing is still working, tho.

>>175274225
Thanks, good anon!
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>>175274434
k thx bye
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Do the twins start using Almighty attacks if you fight them in a new NG+ cycle with the Omnipotent Orb equipped?
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>>175274496
Why are you so stupid
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>>175274420
They used lightning, faggot.

>lol obviously you should have personas that repel each element and rotate them out as needed

This type of retarded jrpg gameplay might have been fine in the early 90s, but there's no excuse for a modern game to do this shit.
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>>175274496

Not the Anon that drew that, but as someone who used to draw a lot of shit, I can tell you, that is someone who is either naturally very good, or who has put in a lot of hours.
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>>175273812
>everyone is explaining stuff
>slip in ""MAKOTO MADE THIS SUGGESTION"
>proceed to have Morgana, Yusuke and the MC jerk her off furiously before explaining the plan further
This is why I dislike her. Not for her, but for way characters always go out there way to praise her for anything.
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>>175274593
No. There is no punishment for being resistant to everything in P5.
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>>175274630
>they critted me with lightning

Yeah ok
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>>175274073
>not having Repel Phys
>not having Auto-Masu on your sweeper Persona

Become competent, faggot.
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>>175274496
Ask Soejima I guess.
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>>175274073

I dunno what to tell you, man. I played the game on Hard and wiped three times in the whole playthrough. Two were in the very first dungeon against that random Archangel enemy that can wreck your shit. I did a tiny bit of grinding in the first dungeon (enough to get media on Morgana before fighting Kamashida), but almost none after that. I did have a number of close calls though.

By that point in the game, you should have personas that are null to phys. I also tended to use a dedicated healer (either Makoto or Morgana) at endgame who blocked most of the time so they would usually be available to heal everyone if needed.
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>>175274291
So nobody can be notable at all?

You're looking for excuses because you have nothing else at this point, complaining about character traits that were estabilished since forever
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>>175274630
>They used lightning, faggot
Then how'd they crit?
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I just beat the UFO palace, how do I put up stuff in my room for decoration?

Is the only time you get to invite people to places when you're not gonna get a rank up scene?
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>>175274496
>>175274631
When are the idiots going to leave?
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>>175272016
>Ann trains until she's bald
>One Punch Ann
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>>175274156
>>175274413
>>175274456
>use expensive boss-killing skills and waste your SP and items on generic enemies anon!

That's fucking retarded.

Besides, it doesn't matter if I buff my defence because all my attacks miss anyways. At best I'll survive another round, maybe one more battle, but then a random mook gets a crit and it's all over.

No thank you. Rolling dice is not fun. Watching an RNG for hours is not fun.
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>>175274743
Only time I wiped was in the first dungeon, but it was my fault. Got ambushed by Succubi and Marin fuckin' Karined to death.
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>>175274225
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>>175274774
>I just beat the UFO palace, how do I put up stuff in my room for decoration?
Go examine the shelves.
>Is the only time you get to invite people to places when you're not gonna get a rank up scene?
Also after you've maxed their confidant.
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>>175274669
Same happens to Futaba and Goro pratically destroys the Casino by himself
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>>175274875
Answer me faggot, how do you get critted with lighting skills?
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>>175273812
>Futaba suggest letting Goro kill Joker in the palace
>Makoto take the credit and says she has the plan and everyone blows her for it

Makoto really is the up for taking the title of Worst Girl from Yukari.

And wow even though Shojiro english voice is alright, his jap counterpart blows him out of the water.
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>>175274743
Personas that are null to phys are worthless when the enemy spams maziodyne multiple times per turn.

>>175274761
You tell me.
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>>175274875
>use expensive boss-killing skills and waste your SP and items on generic enemies anon!
Auto-Masuku is literally free and fixes all your missing problems. Seems like you're the one that's retarded here, but at this point you have to just be pretending.
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>>175274758
I'm just trying to argue why Makoto isn't well-written. It's mainly attributed to how the cast will just jerk her off on a dime; you know it's the dev's waifu.
Other characters are generally fine though, they're never given more than what makes sense. Ryuji is athletic from his practice, Haru is an amateur gardener and suffers problems set in place by her background etc.
These are fine. They don't try to play up the characters for no reason. Makoto, and yes Futaba too, are just played up.
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>>175274968
He's baiting. Pretty successfully, given his shit effort.
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>>175274875
I'm talking about buffing your evasion/accuracy, not defense. You know, so your shit doesn't miss like you were complaining about?

And if you're so starved for items that you can't spare to use one buff in one fight then you should probably get some more.

Also Auto-Masuku doesn't cost anything.
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>this thread
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>>175274732
Why are there so many retards who think that the enemies can only use physical attacks? It's like none of you faggots have played the game.
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>>175274496
https://www.jetpens.com/blog/guide-to-choosing-a-brush-pen-for-art/pt/626

It's not any harder than regular ink pen sketching

If you're familiar with using soft media like charcoal it's easier than that imo

If you're new to drawing check out the /ic/ sticky and actually learn to sketch from life. A lot of people mess up and try to render immediately and don't put any importance on sketching

If you have a 3DS the Art Academy games are actually quite good and tech you all the fundamentals you need.
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>>175275007

I guess you mean they hit weaknesses instead of crit-hit you, then? Just don't have Morgana in and start with a Persona that is not null to elec. I typically used a starter persona that had high EN and as few weaknesses as I could get. Also sukunda (and especially auto-sukukaja) are the most valuable buffs in the game.
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>>175275002
>And wow even though Shojiro english voice is alright, his jap counterpart blows him out of the water

Its Nakata Jouji, after all.
Love both versions of Soji, though.
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>>175275082
You mean every thread ever
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>>175275007
>You tell me
Do you not know the difference between a crit and a weakness? You're at endgame and you haven't noticed this?
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>>175275138
This shit right here is why Nanako is the best waifu.
>>
https://store.iam8bit.com/products/persona-5-vinyl-soundtrack
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Does anyone have a closeup of Rise's poster you can put in your room?
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>>175275282
She's a child you sicko
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>>175275067
>one fight

It's EVERY fight where enemies don't have weaknesses, which could be another 20 before I reach a save point, and who knows how many after that?

>>175275014
Well I don't have a persona with this one obscure skill that I've never found a use for before, so I guess that makes me retarded that I expect my attacks to actually hit the enemy more than 20% of the time without needing to abuse a very specific and rare skill.

>>175274968
I don't know. All I know is that generic enemies are getting two attacks per round, and hitting every single one of their attacks, whereas I get five misses in a row.
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>>175275380
waifu =/= sexual
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>>175275282
You're going to jail.
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>>175257645
Get up, get out there.
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>>175272341

I feel like that would pretty much destroy the point of his character.

In fact I'm pretty sure he'd initially abuse his powers like Goro did if had was a Persona user himself.

Remember that guy he insisted you go after for fame and because he was after his idol?
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>>175275303
Go look at the one at the Station Square since it's the same thing.
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>>175275418
Sounds like you should tone the difficulty down, anon.
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>>175275282
imoutofu*

Nanako is basically a living saint and must be protected from the cruel world at all costs.
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>>175275164
>just magically know what kind of enemy you'll be facing and what kind of spells they use and change your party so that nobody's weak to those spells every time before you enter a fight against enemies that you are not supposed to have seen before

Do you guys realize how retarded you sound?

>>175275245
All I know is that regular enemies are getting multiple attacks per turn, which should only happen if they crit or hit a weakness. I didn't have Morgana in my party so unless Yusuke/Makoto/Ryuji suddenly became weak to electricity and didn't tell me, it was a crit.
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>>175275418
>generic enemies are getting two attacks per round
Are you sure you aren't mistaking that for them being faster than you, so after your ambush they go last on the first round and then first on the next rounds?
I've never known someone to miss that much, you must be fucking something up. Is your equipment up to scratch? Are your Persona and party? Are you using low accuracy moves?
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>>175275427
waifu is sexual you dingus. You mean daughteru
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>>175275624
Does she still believe everyday's great at your Junes six/seven years on?
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>>175258612
>Persona 4 X Persona 5 Movie war
>In the final act Akira and Yu are rushing to the final battle
>Are stopped in their tacks by hordes of Shadows/Demons
>They can't get through without wasting all their stamina they need for the final battle
>Hope seems lost
>Suddenly
>"GRANDO CROSSU"
>"SHURAI GEKI"
>Naoya and Tatsuya show up
>Naoya says "We'll clear you a path,"
>Akira and Yu are dumbfounded at two persona users as old as these two exist.
>Path is cleared
>Akira and Yu break through
>Naoya and Tatsuya proceed to steamroll the mob
>All the while the battle themes from Persona 1 and 2 Innocent Sin are playing interchangeably
>at the end of the scene Tatsuya says "Bad luck running into us"
>Yfw
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>>175275621
I would if there was more to the game, but this is apparently the final dungeon and I can't do any more confidants, so I don't see the point in playing more just so I can have hours of mind-numbingly dull RNG "gameplay" followed by some dumb anime finale cutscene and credits.
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>>175275687
S-sorry senpai
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>>175275638

By endgame, it is trivially easy to have personas that are immune to a lot of abilities and weak to nothing. You have no excuses for being shit at fusion. Especially in this game where you even get to pick your inheritances.

You just suck, man. You are complaining about a game that isn't even hard, because you are unwilling to perform even the tiny amount of work it takes to be functional.
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>>175275002
Futaba gave the idea, Makoto is the one who came up with the operation but really, the entire group deserves credit since it wouldn't work if they didn't play their role
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>>175275687
>waifu is sexual
Not necessarily, it all depends on the waifu
But little girls who are unable to get married can't be waifu.
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>>175275689
She's too much of a pure cinnamon roll to realize the corporations don't care about her
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>>175275828
An Ann managed to not be a horrible actress for once.
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>>175275661
>low accuracy moves

Well the game doesn't tell me what the accuracy on anything is, it just gives vague descriptions like "strong fire" and "not strong fire", so I don't know. I haven't done any fucking mathematical analysis or testing on the hit rate of different spells, so yes, I could be using low accuracy spells. I don't know, and I'm not autistic enough to research that shit. This is the first I've even heard of it. Christ.
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>>175275023
Your argument is nonsensical. You're basically claiming a character isn't well written because they're written to be more cognitively capable compared to other characters. Please end yourself
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>>175275948
Yeah don't you get it? A character who is just "smarter for the sake of it" and gets praised when they didn't even do anything isn't a good character. There should be a good explanation, and for me Makoto and Futaba do not have one. Have you never met a person with good grades who isn't smart?
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>>175275921
It's generally AoE physical/gun moves that have low accuracy, though I'm pretty sure the multi-target magic spells have a bit lower accuracy than the single target ones.
You should use Yusuke, the guy should never miss with his Sped Master skill.
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>>175275916
Yes, she was also pretty good with her acting in the last dungeon. She improved
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I'm an ugly nerd with a huge cock, what girl is enough of a size queen to not care about anything but my dick?
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>>175276096
>>175276096
>>175276096
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>>175275784
OK, so it's my fault for not being autistic enough to spend hours rebuying personas and checking the seemingly random ones I get and paying through the nose to fuse higher level personas all because I didn't predict that unless I have access to immunity for every single possible attack type, the enemies will one-shot me. Fucking fantastic, I guess I'm a retard then because I tried to actually play the game like a non-autist and didn't try to minmax shit to ludicrous extremes on NORMAL difficulty during a NG run.

So I guess my options are to spend hours looking up fusion guides and wasting all my money on this shit, or stop playing this retarded game. I wonder what I'll pick.
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>>175265241
>Takes place during the events of Persona 5
>Instead of human party members, Goro has Shadows as party member ala classic SMT.

Sounds cool as fuck desu.
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>>175272612
Where's Chihaya????
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>>175276172
I beat the game on merciless, all I had to do was fuse everything I had once it fell behind in levels. It's not hard. You are just bad.
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>>175276272
dead
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>>175276064
No, you're being obtuse
>smarter for the sake of it
This doesn't exists. They were written as smart because it's in the characteristics the developers chose for them. There is no "for the sake of it". A character doesn't needs to be smart to be useful

>and gets praised when they didn't even do anything isn't a good character.
But when they get praised is because they did something.

>There should be a good explanation, and for me Makoto and Futaba do not have one
The explanation is that they studied and developed their intelects more than others. You can do it tio

>Have you never met a person with good grades who isn't smart?
That's not how Makoto is though.
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>>175276172

It is so easy you don't even have to do all that research. You just have to be active about filling up your roster through negotiation and fusing regularly.

I would guess you just don't like the fusion mechanics and did the absolutely bare minimum for as long as you could. There isn't really a huge jump in difficulty between Shido's dungeon and the Mementos depths but you just happened to run into what appears to be one because your laziness finally caught up to you.
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>>175275731

So we'd also get other Megaten protags, kind of in the role of other Ishinomori heroes?
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>>175276439
I'm explaining that just because she's established to study a lot, it doesn't mean she is smart. I mentioned you can find people who have good grades but are not smart in real life to show that grades =/= intelligence.
The cast really do go "SASUGA MAKOTO" if she does so much as identify even the most obvious detail that the rest of the cast did not for no real reason other than to have Makoto do it.
A character doesn't need to be smart to useful, yes, but I'm trying to tell you that they wrote Makoto as smart just because she's smart.

And:
>Futaba is the neet she is a shut-in ahah she lives in her room doing nothing thus world class hacker who is better than trained professionals.
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>>175272934
Underrated bro with some gnarly confidant abilities.
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>>175276679
I would like that
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>>175276754
>I'm explaining that just because she's established to study a lot
My dude. That's how YOU get smart in the game and in real life too
>but are not smart in real life to show that grades =/= intelligence.
But studying -> intelligence
>The cast really do go "SASUGA MAKOTO" if she does so much as identify even the most obvious detail that the rest of the cast did not for no real reason other than to have Makoto do it.
Yusuke cares only about his art. MC is mostly a blank slate and Ryuji and Ann are legitimately dumb. You're also exaggerating
>but I'm trying to tell you that they wrote Makoto as smart just because she's smart.
This phrase made no sense, it's like your argument
>Futaba is the neet she is a shut-in ahah she lives in her room doing nothing thus world class hacker who is better than trained professionals.
She studied. You can be a world class hacker if you study like she did
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