/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

BEHOLD

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Reminder that Garu is just a meme Zan.

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Is Alice our girl?

>>174992321
Why are Minotaur and Mudusa such bullshit?
I even had some of the few buffs introduced and I still got fucked plenty of times.

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For some reason I completely forgot that this existed.

>>174992749
This is a No Girls Allowed Club, but she can be /our/ mascot.

Never played these games before so I'm starting with SMT4 because I got a hacked N3DS.

But dude, where are the girls? all I'm seeing are these fags wearing swords on their hips. I get to have a girlfriend in the game at least right? I mean I heard this is like Persona

>>174994469
>I heard this is like Persona

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

>>174994469
Girls are gay

>>174992749
Alice is my girl.

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>Mfw played through SMT1 shooting everything and spamming Zio spells on bosses

Did nobody play test this game?

First time playing smt4a, kinda want to use a magic build for my first playthough. so is 3 magic 1 ag 1 luck for every level ok?

>>174992806
easiest time of my life with those two, asmodeus is the real casual killer

>>174996135
Yes.

>>174992806
4's difficulty is weird. I steamrolled both those two but got absolutely buttfucked on yamato takeru and king kenji.

It just matters really what demons you have and how prepared you are that determines fights, I guess.

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I got some charms to make a Messian necklace with. What should I do? Should I get some kind of chain that holds three and use a peace sign for the third one?

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Where my neutralfags at?

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>>174994469
>But dude, where are the girls? all I'm seeing are these fags wearing swords on their hips. I get to have a girlfriend in the game at least right? I mean I heard this is like Persona

>>174996462
Thanks

Majin Tensei translation when?

>>174996991
Sick Zelda reference.

>>174994469
You get a girlfriend depending which path you go down - thinl of it like advanced S Links. If you please the guy with the afro the most, he turns into a big titted angel later. If you make the guy with the spiky hair happy, then you get to fuck a female version of Lucifer. If you make the girl happy, you'll get in the sack with her, obviously.

>>174997373
>>174994663
>>174994743

Stop dodging the question faggot

Are the only females in the game the demons? saw a dyke haircut fary called pixie so far

>>174998030
>>174996991
But no, really why is there a triforce. I don't get it.

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>>174998210
Just a get an actual gf if you want one.

Just finished Final today.

I actually really liked it, and I've played all mainline, DDS1 and 2, Raidou, the works. Found the characters to be cute, difficulty felt just right on War, the added music was good, villains were pretty well written to make up for some of the questionable dialogue, gameplay was fluid as fuck. Did feel a bit Persona-y in parts and the final dungeon was a drag but it was overall solid.

Why does /smtg/ hate this game again? Is your collective personahate boner that hard?

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>>174998210
>saw a dyke haircut fary called pixie so far

>>174998472

My lifestyle is too tight for wasting time with a girlfriend who will take things slowly and other emotional clingy shit

All four of those dudes just look plain silly but It's good I don't get to see them when fighting

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>>174998650
Because the alignments were butchered into nonsense. Merkabah and lucifer were retconned into not even vaguely trying to not come off like assholes. And the divine powers were basically a tease, because krishna is the best alignment representative in the series and you're not allowed to side with him. Not only that, but for some reason during the fight against him he is trivialized and presented as if you beating him is a given on both endings.

Since the alignments were retarded, your team by definition had to be too. With no ideological conflict, that is replaced with bad sexual tension between bitchy milfs and six year olds.

In the end, you are forced to choose between only two endings. The retarded happy go lucky ending that is so fukken positive that you resurrect everyone from the egg, and the autism ending where you legitimately decide that a world where people are too retarded to have friends would be a good one. Both options are horrible, and yhvh manages to be the biggest letdown in the series, by being not ONLY pure evil, and borderline retarded, but cowardly as well. The game doesn't even coherently explain yhvh's motives, because it assumes you don't care.

The sole good aspect of the final part of the game is satan. And even he makes no sense, since he is depicted as having no ideology for ?? reason. At least his assesment / judgement lines about you are cool.

>>174998859
>lifestyle is too tight
The fuck does this mean

>don't see them while fighting
>don't see the guy second from the left, whose portrait is in every single battle, while fighting
Nice, almost fell for it.

>>174998650
It's the law of any game series. The most recent entry is garbage, the second most recent was bad but serviceable, the third most is good, fourth most is amazing, etc.

Just wait a few years and people will be praising Final as one of the quintessential SMT games like Nocturne's being praised for now.

>>174999345
>>Just wait a few years and people will be praising Final as one of the quintessential SMT games like Nocturne's being praised for now.

It is true that now everyone praises IV, despite it being shat on until final.

>>174996401
King Kenji was harder though.

>>174999345

Duh, he's the MC why would it matter? I'm saying all those dudes are violating the uniform code with dumb shit

>Bare chest instead of Plate carrier
It's like you want to get insta-killed
>Wearing scarfs and a colored choker
Those 2 dudes would be killed by friendly fire definitely

>>174999183
>alignments were butchered into nonsense
I wouldn't say that. It just got shifted from Law and Chaos to Neutral-Light and Neutral-Dark. This is a spinoff so I doubt we'll see anymore of this in mainline.

>merkabah and lucifer
They act pretty much the same as in 4, my man.

>fight against him he is trivialized
Well, he is the main villain of the game. I agree that not being able to side with him was a letdown (though with odin seemingly being a big part of SMTHD we'll have to see) but the idea that the big bad guy shouldn't be defeated because he's a villain is retarded. Or at least that's what I'm getting from your argument.

>bad sexual tensiom between bitchy milfs and six year olds
I always love this kind of hyperbole, because it makes utterly no sense. I thought the Toki/Asahi fight was kinda dumb but it didn't overpower the plot or other characters.

>both options are horrible
No? I get to be a god in one and I get to save everyone in the other. I'd say those are fairly good outcomes.

>yhvh is terrible
Well, he is a villain, I would assume he would act like a bad guy.

>satan
Agreed, liked that part of the final dungeon the most. Made up for a lot of it.

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>>174998221
Look at his hat.

>>175000270
>I wouldn't say that. It just got shifted from Law and Chaos to Neutral-Light and Neutral-Dark. This is a spinoff so I doubt we'll see anymore of this in mainline.

The problem isn't just shifting to light and dark even though that itself is retarded. The problem is that its crammed into a pre existing world where law and chaos exist, but then flanderizes them both into only having their shitty qualities. Basically shitting on IVs plot.

>They act pretty much the same as in 4, my man.

If you say this, you really didn't understand their iv characterization. Lucifer in iv dies talking about hopes and dreams. Lucifer in iva is basically "mwa ha ha, I want to subjugate all humans." And the angels in iva literally always sound halfway between angry and disgusted. A narrator has to inform you in a random scene that merkabah is not meant to be angry in that scene, and in fact has no real emotion. Something that the game sure as fuck butchered the presentation of.

>but the idea that the big bad guy shouldn't be defeated because he's a villain is retarded.

Huh? My point was that when you fight him it acts like your victory is assured. A weird 180 from the fact that the divine powers were treated as the strongest side earlier on.

>No? I get to be a god in one and I get to save everyone in the other. I'd say those are fairly good outcomes.

They're narriatively stupid ones though. Of all reasons to become a god, deciding that friendship needs to be cracked down on is one of the worst.

>Well, he is a villain, I would assume he would act like a bad guy.

Most villians are presented as smart or at least not cowardly. yhvh here doesn't act self aware at all. You are left wondering how he even got in charge when his intelligence seems on par with a thirteen year old school bully who doesn't understand why other people don't like them. The reveal that he was manipulating chaos all along didn't even matter, since he was an asshole from the beginning either way.

>>175000953
>pre existing world where law and chaos exist
Well, yes, it's merely a different take on the matter which is more neutral-centric. It's a bit similar to Law in 2 and how that game definitely revolved around it but you could take different paths. I do agree that law and chaos could have been handled differently in Apoc but it wasn't the focus of the game to begin with.

>didn't understand their characterization
Lucifer in 4 dies talking about how pissed he is that his paradise was brought low by a son of man in neutral and on law says that you were the stronger man in the end, all the while being a closeted lawfag that secretly wishes for order on chaos. That was expanded upon in Apoc, and he certainly wasn't an asshole in either game. I also don't remember that merky bit, was that in mikado or at ichigaya?

>your victory is assured
I still don't get your argument. He's the main baddie, he's going to be defeated, that's a staple of any RPG, though yes, I am disappointed you can't side with him. That he was presented as super powerful early on doesn't mean he can't be beaten.

>narratively stupid one
Well, the whole point of anarchy is that your natural abilities are held back because you have to be dependent on others. That's some basic ancap shit. Don't know what else to say.

>yhvh doesn't act self aware
The guy's a deluded tyrant that everyone, even a lot of his supporters if 2 is anything to go off of, hates. Your argument boils down to "I don't like this character" but he's a villain to begin with, so I don't know why that's a bad thing. You can make the argument he's badly written, I suppose, but that's not what you're saying.

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Am I doin' it right?

>>175003725
Memetastic as fuck, anon.

>>175003725
>there is no tsukihime anime
I kek'd

>>175002349

1/2

>Well, yes, it's merely a different take on the matter which is more neutral-centric. It's a bit similar to Law in 2 and how that game definitely revolved around it but you could take different paths. I do agree that law and chaos could have been handled differently in Apoc but it wasn't the focus of the game to begin with.

A game with a shitty law and chaos with only neutral options is dubious enough. But even that is tolerable. The problem isn't just that it had bad law and chaos sides. Its that it is presented as part of another game that had better ones, but is retconning them for the sake of a new plot. Its not like the sides even got corrupted over time. This takes place right when the end of IV would, but they are simply different, with all good qualities stripped to make way for shitty ones. Merkabah was one of the better characters in the series before, but got butchered entirely.

>Lucifer in 4 dies talking about how pissed he is that his paradise was brought low by a son of man in neutral and on law says that you were the stronger man in the end, all the while being a closeted lawfag that secretly wishes for order on chaos.

He has more lines than his death lines. If you answer right on neutral, he sounds semi tolerant of your choice. Not sure what you mean by closet lawfag, but there's no indication of that. Someone strong taking power is part of chaos, not a deviation from it.

>That was expanded upon in Apoc,

Not really. It was there to be there because he's lucifer and its what he does. Apocalypse more or less ignores anything positive about thier goals, to flanderize them just into "people you shouldn't like." The early chaos ending itself if you take it implies nothing positive about it at all. It just talks about people living in fear because they have no choice.

> I also don't remember that merky bit, was that in mikado or at ichigaya?

At the last showdown.

Does anyone know where to get good SMT shirts?

>>175004002
I honestly don't know what counts as a meme these days.

>>175004457
Redbubble, you can also make your own there if you don't see what you have in mind. Wearing graphic tees is faggot shit anyway though.

>>175003725

>Yusuke for P5

You're alright, kid.

>>175002349

2/2

> he's going to be defeated

The player knows this, but the characters don't have a reason to. The point is that he is as far as you know the main villian. But the fight against him on either ending amounts to your tema basically saying "give up retard you have no chance" and him realizing this during the fight. For the stupidest reasons possible no less, because apparently human willpower means you were fated to win, even though most games imply that gods are way stronger than humans and its rare for humans to win.

>Well, the whole point of anarchy is

The ending isn't called anarchy. Anarchy refers to chaos. It was the american fanbase who got confused and started using it to refer to dagda. The official name is massacre.

But this makes no sense even in the plot. In game its clear that your other teammates are useful since they do rescue you. The idea that you'd be stronger alone not only makes little sense, but even if it was true, it doesn't explain why you in particular are someone so strong that you could just use your solitude to get strong enough to challenge yhvh almost singlehandedly. The fact that this was your plan is so narriatively incoherent that it makes the entire ending shit. Not two levels earlier you couldn't break out of a prison alone, but apparently you're strong enough to kill the overlord of all gods alone now.

> You can make the argument he's badly written, I suppose, but t

A character with no positive qualities including ones necessary to keep power somehow having power is in fact being badly written. How did he get power to begin with if he's dumb as a sack of rocks? And how does he keep up the charade to manipulate people if he is this stupid? And -why- is he this big of a coward? There's no reason for half of this other than to make him as unlikeable as possible. Him being pure evil would have been fine alone. The rest was just additional nonsense that made him not a worthy foe.

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>>175004470
Everything.

>>175004642
Subtle graphic tees are p good though.

>>175004642
I'm gonna pick this up:

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>>175005204
I hope you're joking

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>>175003725
Yusuke is to pure for this world

>>175003725
>>175004684
>>175005478
Still haven't touched P5. What's so good about Yusuke?

>>175005613
He's extremely airheaded in a very refreshing way.

>>175005613
If you havent I really do suggest not going on /v/ or /pg/ this game has many twists and its a shame if you where to get spoiled

Yusuke is cool becuase despite being a guy, Atlus made an endearing "autist" eccentric painter that ist OVER THE TOP like P4. Cool dude who wastes his money on stupid shit in the name of art/ for his friends. I also really like how he dislikes you untill a certain point in the story

I hated P4 alot but I am really happy how P5 turned out.

>>175005613
He's a guy that's really passionate about art, but he's not a gigantic hipster about it.

He's a tiny bit socially inept in some situations, but among the core group he's very relatable and can have normal conversations

you know, like a human can

>>174999183
I hated what they did to Satan and how Lucifer and the 4 archeangels are a part of him because why not.

>>174999506
Everygame gets its turn in the mud
SJ, Nocturne etc

They only games i dont see getting shit on is Overclocked and DDS1-2

>>175006576
>Tiny bit
I'd say more than a tiny bit, anon.

>>175006797
What about KMT

>>175008080
He doesn't have trouble communicating or anything

Like he doesn't stutter or sperg out at shit.

He's just the kinda guy that buys two lobsters and then gets mad when someone assumes it's to eat them.

>>175009643
Too obscure.

But the moment more than 2 persons start to show some love for it, you can be sure that it will be shat on too.

>>175009643
older snes games dont count
Am playing throught KMT 1 but I got lost since I stop playing for a bit. Its pretty good but fusion is more simplistic since you cant have demons carry over any skill like in SMT I or SMT II

Speaking of which

SMT if... WHEN?!

>>175004220
>retconning them for the sake of a new plot
Well, yeah. That's the point of the game, it takes place in an alternate timeline. The good qualities aren't really stripped away, it's just that they're not focused on as much. And how was Merkabah 'one of the better characters in the series' in 4? He was a delusional genocidal retarded lawfag that wanted to kill teenage girls over manga. If anything he appears more reasonable in apoc because we actually see him as a source of inspiration for mikado and gaston, while in 4 the angels never interact with humans.

>more lines than death lines
Don't shift the goalpost. And anyway, chaos doesn't have kings or rulers, it's every man for himself. Lucy in 4 was a bit too quick to jump to "well how bout you become a king to rule them all". This makes sense considering Satan's existence proves he was a lawfag in the end.

>ignores everything positive about their goals
Their goals are the exact same between games - even the ending cutscenes are the same as 4's. They're both 'bad' endings because Shesha Flynn is still running around.

>at the last showdown
At YHVH? Still don't remember. Regardless, his voice is so robotic to begin with that it's hard to tell he has emotion anyway.

>human willpower means you're fated to win
Well yes, that's a big part of Neutral and the game as a whole. Humans have the power to reject gods instead of being ruled by them in Law and to progress and evolve without Social Darwinism in Chaos. I mean we kill gods in basically every fucking SMT game, it's not really a new thing at this point.

>official name
My bad.

>makes no sense
The reason you become so strong in Massacre is because you transcend your humanity by becoming dependent on no one, that's the whole point of the throne scene and stephen's dialogue. Dagda even talks about literally the entire game - call it bullshit but it was an established plot element, not just a random dbz powerup.

>>175010746
>SMT if... WHEN?!
20XX! He is still on time!

>>174992749
Yes, along with Scathach, Pixie, Nekomata, Lilim, Succubus, Kikuru Hime, Angel, and Ame no Uzume

>>175004780
>if he's this dumb
Well he was smart enough to make a scapegoat in Lucifer and powerful enough to make all ancient gods bend to his will. Most people don't know YHVH's true nature, anyway, they probably see him as a benevolent creator god.

I'll admit now they probably did go too overboard with making him unlikable but I'm willing to overlook that as villains are meant to be actual scumbags. Besides that, YHVH isn't really the main villain so much as Krishna, whose motives and character were far more interesting.

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Man SMT is a lot funner on Paradise mode. I'm finally able to enjoy this series.

Its because of the Persona influence that all these recent megatens got

>shit writing (SMT4:A)
>Doi instead of Kaneko for new demons
>Changing Kaneko's character designs for generic animu trash like Doi's

I can't believe they touched in such a perfection of game that is Strange Journey for no reason. Its so hard for him to leave the flower fields for a minute just to draw Alex's design and some new demons?

I'm fucking sick of these /v/ threads saying P5 is better than mainline, when the big problem is the persona pandering after that mistake of anime.

>>175013230
P5 is better than mainline

>>175013230
Best timeline

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>>175013230
>P5 is better than mainline for rehashing things mainline did except making them accessible to people who can't stomach going through an entire game without high school social simulator bullshit
P5 is mainline for idiots.

>>175013230
>>Doi instead of Kaneko for new demons
Kaneko is retired my man it has nothing to do with persona

And Maphisto, Cleopatra and the mermaid are great. Not everything is persona's fault

>>175013645
I wonder where the new P5 fans are going to end up. On the Persona or the SMT side.

>>175013905
Kaneko is really retired? I will miss him so much, I feel bad for pirating all SMT games before buying a 3DS.

>oni horde summons reinforcements four times in one fight
Does Apocalypse get pissy and refuse to cooperate if it detects you killing enemies in ways it considers too cheap or effortless or something, like instant kills?

Has anyone done a full transcription of SMTIV Offical Artworks?

>>175014235
And pirating them after, I assume.

I hope fucking persona wins if smt """fans""" continue to keep pirating from companies like atlus that barely keep their head above the water.

>>175014235
That are kill.
He did some guest art work for some manga but he has a hand off approach now. He was barely involved in SMT IV.

>>175014624
>I hope fucking persona wins if smt """fans""" continue to keep pirating from companies like atlus that barely keep their head above the water.
You sound like a massive faggot
Also Persona already won, they said it themselves, its their flag ship series. Selling a product that has you killing *record scratch* is alot harder then high school stuff. Also Atlus is doing great fiscally.

>>175014396
no, you can just randomly get up to 4 horde battles. later in the game you get a partner that's able to instakill an enemy at the start of a fight and right after the enemy takes its turns, and since hordes count as just one enemy, they have a possibility of oneshotting hordes very easily. or you could just carry trafuri/estoma

>>175014624
>pirating
World of strength baby.

>>175014624
Nah, I bought SMTIV/SMTIV:A/Soul Hackers special editions and almost Strange Journey too, but its rare to find a copy in my country.

>>175014761
>>175014836
fuck you faggots, I pirate shit all the time from big triple A corporations like Nintendo or stuff. Atlus doesn't deserve the same sort of treatment when I can pay for their products, and no, they're not doing well enough fiscally to endorse this kind of behavior. >>175014861's piracy is fine since there's no reasonable way for them to get the game, you two are being assholes.

if persona's won already, great. I hope SMTHD and 5 are delayed forever just to spite shitbrains like you.

>>175015167
Can't be mad about persona winning, what's fair is fair, sales is power. Kaz, I'm already a waifufag.

>>175015167
>Atlus is't doing well financially
That explains WHY they opened up a new studio, made new 3D HD demons, made P5 3D, working on multiple games etc. Atlus has always been Niche and now P5 is making them more mainstraim, to say Atlus ist doing well is dumb.

>implying I am a piratefag
I buy all their new shit if It interests me (fuck DAN) but shut like DDS 1-2, Raidou 1-2, P1-P2EP If I were to get them physically it wouldt go to atlus' pockets and fuck buying digitally. Get off your moral highhorde LAWfag.

>>175016576
>highhorde
Need to stop playing so much W3.

When will we get a SMT RTS/GSG/4X game?

I just beat demifiend in DDS. Do I get exclusive bragging rights?

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when will we get this?

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>>175017706
After this masterpiece.

>>175010928

>Don't shift the goalpost

A line he said two text boxes before dying isn't shifting the goalpost. It was obviously at the point where he realized that the fight might turn against him.

> And anyway, chaos doesn't have kings or rulers, it's every man for himself.

Lucifer has been called a king since early in the series. Gotou was a dictator. Kenji is a king. In desu demons have lords and courts. You don't seem to understand chaos. A strong person becoming a leader by their own power is not anti chaos. People are to know that they don't -have- to follow them. But they do if they don't want their ass beat / see mutual benefit in it. The point is that their power structures don't have universalist pretensions. They are structures of their own power that others are free to reject.

>Their goals are the exact same between games - even the ending cutscenes are the same as 4's.

I'm talking about personality and depiction. The characters are retconned into blatant anti-charismatic assholes, and this tone is carried over into their goals. Sure, the ending might be implied to be the same on paper. But if you play ivs chaos then ivas chaos, you note that iva openly calls it a bad ending. Not just because the divine powers. It simply treats lucifer as just an evil figure. If any positive references are taken out it implies a darker tone.

>I mean we kill gods in basically every fucking SMT game, it's not really a new thing at this point.

Usually its treated as surprising. A story where you were always going to win is less interesting. But that's not even this story. That becomes this story for some reason exactly when you fight krishna.

>call it bullshit but it was an established plot element, not just a random dbz powerup.

Mentioning a stupid plot point ahead of time doesn't make it less stupid. If dagda said true power came from bananas early game, and it turns out that you could beat yhvh alone using bananas, it still wouldn't make it make sense.

>>175018079
I have the right side as my phone wallpaper
Looks pretty cool desu
If I can get that as a wallpaper and sighned by Kaneko that would be rad

>>175011339
That's the point. Him being smart enough to do this implies cunning. But when you face him he has no cunning. He acts like he legitimately just has no clue whats going on other than thinking he is amazing, and legitimately not understanding why other people don't like him.

Him being pure evil is fine. But at least make him come off smart. And not cowardly. Being depicted as cowardly is the fastest way to make someone unlikable. But this makes him not even likable as a villain. And it makes all the dialogue with him weird. Toki calls him quick to forgive, and it seems genuine. Was it meant to be, or is that just more bad writing. And satan tells him he has to assess whether he is reasonable or not. But one conversation with him is more than enough to realize he's not. (Sure, at that point satan saying this was clearly rhetorical, but even so).

The point is that both main villains weren't treated as valid adversaries. Krishna was treated weak and pathetic by the time you met him for no reason, even though twenty minutes earlier you were acting like you had no plan to beat shesha... but fortunately that wasn't an issue because after telling you this he removed himself from existence forever. Then you go from trivialized krisha to yhvh who acts actively afraid of you before you even meet him. For an ending of a game that should have been the most epic ending yet, what we got felt underwhelming and like it was just trying to be II but stupider.

>>175015167
I honestly don't even care desu. If Atlus goes under, it's because they keep releasing the same shit with different animu skins, except it takes them like twice the time to make games as other people it seems like, unless they're just lazily reusing everything or busy remaking every single last gen game.

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Vote for best spinoff game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12100304

ETERNAL BATTLE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL

>>175018590
Can you post the image? I want it also.

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>>175022616
Took a second on google, was the third one in images. Step it up senpai

>>175023000
This has text all over it, it's gross!

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>Demi fiend sleeping
>Phone starts to ring
>Pixie: "Ugh, who could it be at this hour"
>*Cute music starts playing*
>Chiaki: "Hi Demi."
>Chiaki: "Sorry to text you so late."
>Chiaki: "I was wondering if you have plans for tommorow? I'm going to crush the weak under my heel and I'd appreciate if you came along."
>What will you do?
>Accept
>Decline

>>175023692
>Implying that does't add to the overall antithetic

>>175023724
Accept
>Next Persona game has you kill your friends for reasons
How would you guys feel about Persona then?

>>175024180
Indifferent as usual. Would be funny to watch the personafags react to that.

>>175024180
If that were to happen then I could finally rest in peace knowing that Persona was just a giant learning exercise to (slowly) get normalfags into SMT.

>>175024256
>Personafag waifus Law gal
>goes chaos
>has to kill his waifu
Would be pretty sweet

>>175024418
Persona 5 is taking a bigger intuitive then P3/P4 to get normies into SMT it seems with negations and stuff.

Hopefully Atlus markets SMT x Switch as well as P5. I think they will since they showed that teaser in the switch presentation

>>175024703
two of my boys played P5 and enjoyed it so much that they're interested in the SMT HD project. I hope it comes out on more than just switch but I highly doubt it will.

My compendium is at 106% and I have all the demons from Nemechi and all the standard ones. Do I have to get the final forms for Zeed as well? Two of them were at Type 1 in the Compendium.

>>175024180
>first fusion tutorial results in dagda
>he's the games mascot

>>175026956
Likewise. But in some presition it seems that SMT x Switch is for PS4 as well. Which is good since I only used my PS4 and got it for Blood bourne and now P5 and that digimon game with art from Yusuda.

If its only for switch then it looks like am buying a switch then

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>>175026956
Well, it's going to take forever to come out anyway. It's going to take even longer to come over to the US. By then, I'm sure the Switch will have a decently sizable userbase. If SMT HD is marketed correctly, it could do quite well. But it all depends on what the game is and how Atlus and Atlus USA handle marketing.

In DDS1, why does iron stomach sit right next to a 50k macca mantra right next to AP divide when
>Ache only happens at this point due to use of Devour
>Devouring requires more strategy and/or longer battles and Ache prevents reward from said strategy and/or longer battle, treating it in a way similar to how most other games penalize you for using a quick cheap strategy, like casting Death on all your enemies
>There's only 3 skills under demon beast, one of which is just random devour
>Ache is fucking annoying and looks as if its basically just set up to be an "unskilled" penalty so you have to actually set someone up to use devour at an already existant cost of using a skill slot.

>>175027569
I'm not mad, I'm just confused.

>>175027552
Says HD project and not SWITCH project so lets hope it comes to more platforms. PC included please ffs

>>175027404
>Reverse your Social links boyo

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>>175027708
I wouldn't get my hopes too high. Remember that the site was up before the Switch presentation. It could have said HD project because they wanted to keep the fact that it was coming to Switch a secret until the presentation. It would be awesome if it were multiplat though.

>shido is flynn
I knew I recognized that voice. Guess we know what would happen to Flynn if the nukes never launched.

>>174999183
I thought everyone was being an asshole to Lucifer for no apparent reason in Apocalypse. Him and Chaos were the second best group in the game because Adramelech, Lucifiuge, Belial, and Samyaza had some personality. The Lucifer being a pawn for YHVH was a major letdown because Atlus couldn't do one simple job and add Helel sprite to game to reflect that he's a servant of the lord.

>>175013230
How can you hate on Doi? The artbook revealed that he does understand mythology and some of those designs could've made it to the game if the writing wasn't shit, or the writers weren't fapping to Inanna and Toki.

I've been trying to get my alignment back up to neutral in SJ ever since going chaos

Is there another way of affecting alignment other than dialogue choices?

>>175028790
>no Helel 3D HD model in P5
Really worried they might drop it now

>>175029028
Talk to the pixie in the village. Its in the tips and tricks

>>175027545
speaking of which, is that Digimon game any good?

>>175023724
>Pixie: "You need to sneak into a Dungeon tomorrow, you don't have time for that"

>>175027569
For now get everyone to devour equally, just wait until that amount of money is not such a burden.

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>>175023724
Will she crush my head on Valentine's if I bang Nekomata and Pixie too?

Anyone got a link to the DDS Integral soundtrack? The link in the OP is dead

>>175029070
Yea its pretty good. Am a sucker for Mon games though but even then the models look good. The Apocalypse happens as well it reminded me a bit of Digimon tamers (Season 3)

Its long as fuck and I stop playing because I got hit with a wall but I plan on finishing it after P5 NG+ There is a sequal to it coming out. And the Digimon game am talking about is Cyber Sleuth not digimon world

>>175029063

I don't think I'm far enough into the game for that

Oh well, I guess I'll be chaos for now

>>175014396
No, it's sorta implied that Inanna was keeping herself alive by birthing hordes of demons faster than you can kill them.

So apparently all these years I've been wrong about SMT. I thought the teacher was the neutral hero, like the fact that she can't do anything because her sponsor doesn't exist symbolizes the long shot humanity has.

How the hell is Isamu and his enablist reason supposed to represent neutrality?

>>175030346
Stop trying to force alignments where they don't belong mate. Some games don't have alignments, and that's OK.

>>175030346
Every Reason representative is law, the teacher is neutral, and Lucifer is chaos.

>>175030610
But the other two reasons are basically chaos and law, just with the types of demons switched

>>175030346
think of it like sitting back and watching the action unfold. everyone can choose what they want to do. also, I didn't even know nocturne has alignments.

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This album is fucking great.

>>175030760
Name?

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>>175030913
ATLUS Best Selection Megami Sekai Megaten World

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mSIBFvmJSQ

>>175030346
The devs said outright that Nocturne is all chaos, all the time.

The various reasons are just various kinds of chaos mentalities that exist.

>>175030760
FLAC link plz

>>175031336
so to sum it up:
SMT2 is a very law heavy game, and most people here couldn't care for it.

Nocturne is a chaos heavy game, and most people here love it.

Final is a neutral heavy game, and a lot of people here hate it.

So /smtg/ is full of autistic chaosfags and virtually no neutralfags? nice to know.

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>>175032289
Law fag checking in

>>175032289
It's not really that simple. Most people like Nocturne because it was pretty goddamn fun.

>>175032289
You can like or dislike any game while having whatever alignment you want. Don't be dense.

>>175031459
>FLAC

I wish

>>175032489
>>175032547
and here come the autistic chaosfags with their inane damage control.

it's ok, guys, it's all right to be biased towards video games based on babby-tier philosophy, just know you guys are a joke in the patrician scene

>>175018358
How have I never seen this If... one?

>>175032579
I just need to but these damn CDs and rip them for everyone, but they're stupid expensive and also CDs.

>>175032667
Sure, I agree.

>>175032971
Yeah, they are either obscenely pricey or cheap on second hand JP sites that don't do international shipping.

>>175033309
You should be able to use a middle man service then quite easily. Try shoppingmalljapan It's like five bucks or so and I had a pretty good experience using them.

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is my sera good?

>>175033567
Just make sure you give her opposite skills and stats as serph.

>>175033309
>>175033560
in that case, is there like, a list of the Megaten soundtracks available on CD?

>>175032971
So you downloaded it or heard it on youtube?

>>175033821
check on vgmdb.net it usually lists obscure CDs even those fan re-arrange albums in some cases

>>175033840
I've aquired what I could from the sticky and other sources, but I haven't purchased any yet. I've listened to many on youtub but the audio quality is trash. I guess I have no idea what you're asking tbqh

Open world SMT game when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69xKtGiJtX8

Fallout NV with demons/negitions/fusing would be pretty fucking dope.

/pg/ is literally build of shit when it comes to discussing alignment

Are the Persona protags neutral throughout all the games and is Philemon a lawfag?

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>>175034417
>Fallout NV with demons/negitions/fusing

I want this. Badly.

>>175034571
It cant be THAT hard to mod in right?! Lets get to it /smtg/

Joshua Graham would be the best Lawfag since Amane

>>175034571
I really can see this theme working, but I doubt the Atlus devs have the skill to pull it off.

>Can't open a door because my stats are too low.

Fuck you YHVH
I put all my level up stats into only magic luck and agility
Fuck

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>>175034724
Almost everyone would go Law just because of Graham alone if he was a Law rep in a SMT game.

Helps that he got a great voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34A-ODy9u1Y

What demons would Flynn use if he was a Super Boss of a game?

Does anyone know if >>175034984 can be fixed with incense abuse? I'm currently on NG+ and I really really wanted that Chaos armor in the last dungeon.

>>175035285
Cute ones.

>>175035285
Masakado, Koga Saburo, and Asmodeus, probably.

>>175035398
>>175034984
What game? I dont remeber needed stats to open a door in SMT 1 or 2 but its been a while. I also didt know SMT 1 or 2 had chaos armor. I know SMT 1 had Messiah armor

>>175035671
it's in yhvh's universe in final.

>>175035398
yeah. I think some of the stats have to be at 200 or something ridiculous though for some of the doors.

There's a saddening lack of Ashera hentai.

>>175035186
NV was truly an amazing game and I wish Obsidian would make more open world games because bethesda has been droping the ball and is kinda shit now.

Until SMT x Open world happens, Ill just play morrowind and pretend to be a demon summoner. and always kill the gods in that game.

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>>175036073
Hate to say this, but, we're just gonna have to accept that Todd is God now.

> Ill just play morrowind and pretend to be a demon summoner. and always kill the gods in that game

Sounds like fun.

When will physical skills stop being linked to mp? This is one reason I like Persona more.

>>175037023
SMT V

>>175037023
Really dont know why they did this shit with SMT IV

>>175036403
It is. Conjuration is the bomb in Morrowind. Summon as much demons as you want. I just wish Morrowind was a bit harder like, your enemies can do the same kind of broken shit you can do or something. But I know its just a dumb dream.

What does the "curse" status effect do in SMT2?

>A persona game brought back getting items from demons

Man I hope SMT 5/HD has this shit.

>>175037752
Phys skills costing MP started in SJ.

Which one of these should I try next?

SMTIV
IVA
DS2RB
DS2OC

>>175041698
>DeSu2OC
U mean DeSu 1 OC

and why would you start SMTIV:A before IV?
its a sequel to IV.

I say IV but if you love Srpgs then I say OC

>>175041956

I just went onto Freeshop and tried to look for SMT stuff. Soul Hackers, IV/IVA, and DeSu 1 and 2 were the only ones there. Since I just beat SH, I want to see what the other games are like.

Which demon is the best at giving cummies?

>>175043227
Mishaguji

>>175043227
Lailah

Will we see another mainline smt on playstation bros? I miss it

>>175045059
I hope so. I'm tired of these shitty handheld games.

>>175045059
i dunno bro, maybe make a petition?

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Is she, dare I say it... /ourgirl/?

>>175042612
>>175041698

>Since I just beat SH, I want to see what the other games are like.

Persona 1 on PSP (with original music patch) and SMT1 on iOS are most similar to SH that are actually translated

Out of the ones you listed though, I guess go for IV

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Did the 3rd Digital Devil Story ever get translated?
Also anyone know what the fuck happens in the rest that seemingly don't actually exist?

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>goho-m is pun on "go home"
woah

>>175045059
I thought the new SMT was going to be on PS4 and Switch

Playing Soul Hackers atm but have a couple questions.

I'm having trouble figuring out what to do with Zeed. Right now I just fused him with a strong physical demon so he can auto attack, but also has some support skills but he doesn't feel all too useful at the moment. Any suggestions? Also do I need to revert him to Dolly Kadmon and then fuse with a Hero demon to get the transformation?

Also, is it worth selling a Dream ticket or should I use it? The demon it would apply to is Katakirauwa

>>175047194
Just give me at least japanese version.

>>175046256
SMT 2 is also translated (fan) but it gets the job done

>>175042612

Also SJ is another first person dungeon crawler like SH so check it out. Its getting a remake/port on the 3DS with more demons and another route so wait if you want

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what is this
http://megaten.extsm.com/

>>175048857
looks like a drama cd maybe?

>>175003725
>Apoc
>none of them
The divine powers were good

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hey its me ur persona

>>175004220
The presentation of The Divine Powers could havd been so much different. They should have filled the vacuum after Lucifer and Merkabah are defeated, instead of being able to wage war against both of them right off the bat. Would be fitting for Lucifer warning you against it, too. And the fact that you cannot side with them is the game's greatest crime, but at least Odin is getting a new chance in SMT V.

>Devil Summoner untranslated
There's a script, right?

>>175049875
I'm pretty sure, but no one with the knowhow has the will to insert it into the game

>>175035285
Minotaur with Labrys Strike

>>175049932
You fags. Why do we do nothing but spend time on Anatolian slate etching boards?
Fuck this, if no one figures it out in 5 years, I'm learning myself.

>>175050119
Someone is apparently doing the PSP version. Don't expect it anytime soon though.

>>175050119
>Altus announces an enhanced port that's getting localized as your doing the finishing touches on it.

>>175050348
When are if... and Persona 1 going to be remade in the PQ engine?

>>175050417
PQ was boring as fuck dude

>>175050417
id rather have them updated on the P5 engine

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Attempt number 13 on the last bossrush in DeSu OC.

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After someone mentioned the hard mode hack for Nocturne a few days ago I gave it a shot and I'm just dying over and over again in the tutorial. Is the entire game going to be like that because if so I don't even feel like resetting for another three hours to get through. The tutorial was already pretty shit on hard mode but this is beyond silly

>>175054415
>guys i started playing hard mode and it's hard will it stay hard

>>175054524
Well that hack advertised that it rebalanced a whole bunch of shit, INCLUDING the tutorial section to "make it harder but more fair". But it pretty obviously didn't do shit to rebalance it and just made things hit so hard you have to reset over and over until you dodge everything.

>>175051870
Good luck son of man. Its my favorite boss in SMT I think. Fun as fuck

What route did you go?

>>175054760
I don't get it.

>>175055138
nanashi

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>>175054875
Amane.

I got to the last fight yesterday but messed it up. It's totally doable but RNG is just not with me today.

I really want to finish it up because the sequel is dropping in my mailbox today.

>>175029265
>I wrote a comment without fully explaining the context at all (and they start thinking I'm referring to something else on top of that...)
>Just generally horribly explained
This should teach me to write comments right within the few minutes before I leave for work.

You mentioned devouring equally? I assume that has to do with AP Divide, but honestly I was just looking at Iron Stomach which I, by sheer chance, happen to know will prevent ache.

I don't really have any major issues right now with devouring equally. I'm not really having too many issues with the game at all, really.

The only thing that bugs me just a little bit is that they didn't quite design ache the way they should've.
Like, its inherent from the design of devour that you will end a lot of battles with it.
Why then did they make it possible for this sequence of events to transpire: 1) Defeat last/only enemy with devour 2) Get ache status 3) Battle ends with no chance to recover from ache 4) AP and XP are tallied. No AP.

I got frustrated a few times with this because sometimes I'll be on my way to switch up my mantra after one or two of my characters mastered their current mantras and I'll go up against an enemy thinking I'll just give all the AP to a character that hasn't mastered their mantra yet, but then just as the battle ends my character gets ache and I'll get 0 AP.
That makes no sense to me, especially since the odds are against it happening thus making it still worth doing.

Its not so bad. If they designed it so either you got ache *after* the AP is tallied for the battle that causes the ache (with a little textbox message or something to inform you), there was an actual meter for how 'full' you are, made it impossible to get a he after the last enemy is killed, or did actually quite a number of other things to prevent this situation, there really wouldn't be any problem.

But I guess its obvious how they would overlook this...

Are there any good video playthroughs of if... where the person playing gives at least some translation of the story and also isn't annoying?

>>175056648
Yeah

>the final boss of dds is THE FUCKING SAVE POINT FROM NOCTURNE
And I thought capcom were masters of reusing assets.

>>175057269
nah the captain is fromsoft

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Nobody likes Soul Hackers except people who don't give a shit about gameplay and just want muh atmosphere and muh demon waifus.
Prove me wrong.

>>175057558
delet this image

>>175057558
That's nocturne

>>175056051
Amane is one of the only good law routes imo. And its one of the funnest in DeSu 1. 8th day is great as well

I love memes

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>Best Atmosphere: Nocturne
>Best Gameplay: Nocturne / Digital Devil Saga
>Best Story: SMT2 / Persona 2
>Best Dungeon Crawling: Strange Journey
>Best Demon Recruitment: Soul Hackers
>Best Characters: Persona 2 / Digital Devil Saga

AFTER SO MUCH WHINING

AND HELP FROM THIS THREAD

I FINISHED MY FIRST NON-PERSONA SMT GAME

DEVIL SURVIVOR OVERCLOCKEd

FUCK BEL

FUCK MIDORI

REEEEEEEEEEE SO GLAD TO BE DONE

>>175059136
>Best Demon Recruitment: Soul Hackers
?????
Soul Hackers demon recruitment is ass

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Playing Nocturne, how do I fuse New Jack?

Is there a side boss I have to beat, or is there another demon I have to hold on to? I couldn't find anything about him on FAQs

>>175059212
I don't think it's ass, it's a slightly expanded SMT1/2 system.
The demons themselves are ass.

>>175059137
Kill yourself

>>175057558
I want to play it for the great music and demon husbandos.

Would I be disappointed?

>>175059283
Stop that I take pills every morning to not think like that

>>175059368
No, you will most likely have fun. Don't be surprised though that other people didn't like the game.

>>175059487
I've heard that the mechanics were outdated(?) as it's a remake and all, but as long as it's not really broken or a chore I don't particularly mind.

Have most people here played it, or is it a game that a lot of people parrot things about?

>>175059212
Nah. It's easily the best when it comes to negotiations. If you didn't like them you probably don't like talking to demons in general and would rather just have something like fucking P4

>>175059463
Make me bitch boy

>>174992046

Do you think they'll use press turn or demon co-op for Deep Strange Journey?

>>175061973
Both

>>175059707
I played it, I don't know if other people have, but I didn't like it.
>>175061973
I haven't seen any info that would point to them changing the combat system.

>>175061973
Probably Persona's One More at this rate.

>>175061973
It still uses the same system from the direct video

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>>175057665
Just got wrecked on this mission yesterday. Are the rest of the bosses this bullshit?

>>175069290
He was one of the easier ones

smt sucks

Just wanted to say p2 IS combat and negotiations suck ass. Other than that I really like it. According to the pastebin I shouldnt bother making better personas either?

>>175074315
The combat is fine though.
It's just a timeline combat system similar to FFX, but with autobattle.

>>175073983
;_;

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>mfw I still haven't played SJ but I've played everything else
>mfw I am not interested in the remake at all, can't exactly put my finger on it though

>>175074315
I want to play both Persona 2's through again. Dat Velvet Room. I find them comfier to play with guides so I don't get upset over missing rumours/Personas.

>>175074648
Its not awful but its terribly slow and doesnt explain how fusion skills work for example. I've just discovered its chrono trigger like in the battle vs the principal because they combo'd two Agis. Idk the game seems fun but they didnt know what they were doing with the ui's desu. Maybe im just in a bad mood and not used to it.

>>175074961
Its my first time so I dont wanna use a guide but Im not used to not fusing persinas and I think thats whats confusing me more. I've been at the velvet room but I still dont fully understand how to get new ones or if its even worth it

>>175075293
Dude just use a guide, there is absolutely no shame in using one for the P2 games.

>>175075108
Ok, I agree, the game doesn't tell you how it works very well at all.
The PSP version is even worse because it tries to force the game into some weird pseudo P3/4 ui and it doesn't work at all.
The fusion spells work by passing turn on the members that are earlier on the timeline so the characters participating in the fusion spell act at the same time.
You find out fusion spell by varying the skills you use with the characters, which is something you should do anyway so you can level up the rank of the persona.
>>175075293
Getting new personas works by getting cards from demons and buying them from Kaneko in the velvet room.
You can also dump your old personas to Igor to get items after you've max ranked them.

>>175075293
Honestly, use a guide. There is no way you're going to be getting Alice/Odin/Vairocana if you don't use one (or you're very thorough or lucky). I won't even mention mutations.

Are you playing the fan translation or the PSP version? I've only played the fan translation so I don't know if anything fusion-related was changed. Didn't like the whole "let's make P1/P2 look like P4, even though they're wildly different games" thing Atlus did with them. It's a shame there's still no "perfect" version of Persona 1.

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this is some castlevania dawn of sorrow shit

>when you've played them all realize that SMT nerds will still think you're a casual because you haven't played Nocturne
WHAT
DID
THEY
MEAN
BY
THIShttps://youtu.be/n6Ji9wSZqZM?t=172

>>175077386
>when you've played them all
> haven't played Nocturne
Ehh?

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>>175077386
Ha.

So when are we going to get the chaos version of YHVH who ends up being an actual bad guy and not like lucifer who ends up pretty much always being a cool guy? Why is atlus so biased against law and blaming everything bad in the series on law reps?

>>175079769
Law represents western religion and nips hate western religion

>>175080182
>>175079769
The one time YHVH and law ist shit is in Desu1. Even then chaos is just edgy shit with neutral being the only semi decent option half the time. Team maniax works on both mainline and desu games so idk what is going on there.

Ouroborous is fuckin my ass /smtg/

What level should I be at for this fucker? I'm 40 right now. I'm also chaos alignment and there don't seem to be many decent chaos demons around this level

I'm tempted to use passwords once again

>>175034724
>>175035186
I can't believe that /smtg/ is the group that finally gets me to play NV.

>>175030760
SMT doesn't have any albums with orchestral arrangements, right? I feel like that would be a really good thing.

>>175059137
>SO GLAD TO BE DONE

Yep, sounds like an smt game alright.

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from a loyal friend
to a fuckable waifu
behold,
the future of Shin Megami Tensei

>>175084174
We did that last game.

>>175077386
DEMI KIDS DARK >>>>>>

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>>175081660
>not playing every black isle/obsidian game

>>175080780
Your demons basically have to be all the same alignment to beat him. What's the problem? Is he healing your damage off too fast, is he overpowering you, what?

>>175083396
Yeah but the sequel dropped in my mailbox today so I started playing that at once.

Is there any good iOS emulators out there to play SMT 1?

>>175084905
I managed to scrape together some chaos demons that knew fire moves and managed to beat it

Now for round two I guess

The unfortunate thing is I have almost no demons that can use buffs

>>175059137
Grats my man. Tower of Bel is a really fun fight

Now go fight Lucifer the TRUE final boss of DeSu 1

>>175090548
DeSu 2 has a slink sort of system so since you are a personafag you should like it.

AO gives you lucifer if you max him out so focus on him if you want the rest of your playthroughs to be cake. Purple Mirror is also another demon that is OP

>>175091298
Oh, son of a bitch

I'M FUCKING NEUTRAL NOW

Gotta make neutral demons I gues

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>Isis in DDS1
FUCK YOU.

>>175081660
It has one
https://youtu.be/epn7Ne7-iMc

Playing SMT:A and have a question. Does alignment work like it did in IV or do we just outright choose an ending like Stephen kinda implied when we first meet him? I ask because a lot of the choices in this game so far aren't so much Law vs. Chaos as they are Nice vs. Dickhead and I'd really be annoyed if not being a douche forced me on the Law path.

>>175097971
There are two major endings, and you can choose them at will, but if you choose an ending that contradicts the majority of your choices you will either lose all your items, or all the demons in your COMP.

>>175097971
You get to choose, yeah.

There's two early endings, Law and Chaos, and then there's the Friendship and Massacre split later on which, while you can freely choose with a prompt, there are drawbacks based on how you acted throughout the game (For example, if you were friendship mcgee and go Massacre, you get penalized, and vice versa.)

When Soul hackers 3DS was new, someone apparently wrote something in Java to solve the MAG Grab game but the file was deleted YHVH knows when. How do I git gud at it?

>>175098463
>>175098769
kk, thanks!

>>174992046
>people even on /smtg/ tell me Persona is good
>buy P5 because of this
>Animu cringeshit
>waifu pandering everywhere
>WOW JOKER UR SOO KOOL
and people praise this garbage?

fuck

even after some brand new demons, ouroboros second form just fucks me

wave of death straight up ohko's my entire party, except for me

>>175101207
you don't fight the second form until after you destroy the energy sources, right?

just take the time between fights to swap out for demons that can buff/debuff and then go to town since the regen'll be gone.

>>175101151
if you just got the game you would be in the part where no one likes you at school and there is one girl who is to busy dealing with the fact that her friend (almost) killed her self because of her.

If you wanna shitpost go to /pg/ please

>>175101151
>Animu cringeshit
>waifu pandering everywhere
>WOW JOKER UR SOO KOOL

That's the appeal of Persona tho. If you took those away, nobody would even care it exists like just about any other Atlus game.

>>175013230
The samurai have got an awesome designs

and Doi's demons are great. Not his fault the kame rider guy drew a significant portion of the new demons in sMTIV

>>175101779
ohhh that """""deep""""" moment that all the people call "on par with SMT"
Some girl gonna suicide because she was abused
Also cmon , i am close to the end and this is gonna be my first and last persona game if every one is like this.
Absolute garbage Harem/Shounen shit and is a disgrace they use demons for this.
This pandering is VN Harem levels of bad.

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>>175101956
Sounds shallow and narcissistic to me.

>>175101728
Do buffs transfer if you switch demons out?

>>175102062
>ohhh that """""deep""""" moment that all the people call "on par with SMT"
No one called it deep, no one said that moment was on par on SMT. And there is only harem shit if you want it to be senpai. No girl is on your dick from the get go.


>and is a disgrace they use demons for this.
Now you sound like a spazz.

Honestly P5 is't as anime cringe heavy as P4. Its rather grounded 'cept for that one part where Ryujii "dies" and all the girls kick his ass which was dumb.

Are there any good SMT related channles on youtube? Fither is a massive faggot.

>>175102594
I think Morgana throwing a hissy fit also falls under the category of anime shenanigans, otherwise I agree.

>>175101956
Why are so called atlus fans the most bitter and critical of atlus and why are normies their true biggest fans? really boggles the almonds

>>175102252
they don't, but that shouldn't be a problem. just go and get some demons that can use rakukaja and tetraja and keep one of your fire spamming demons and the second form is a joke.

>>175102809
No.

>why are normies their true biggest fans? really boggles the almonds
Persona only fag detected
not even deserve a (YOU)

>>175102880
He was being a massive faggot, but at least he admitted he was and said sorry. Its a shame how right after nu-persona is finally starting to head in the right track, Hishino left to make Re:fantasy and now fucking Wada (P4 spin off dude) is in charge of persona. Out of all the SMT games I played, P4 is the only SMT game I can say I hate.

I fuckin did it, I defeated ouroboros

just barely though

I got really lucky and it wasted a lot of turns using mahama and didn't use that thing that gives status effects to everyone

>>175103156
the only people I see liking persona on 4chan are the casuals and dudebros on /v/.

surprising that all I see is constant whining, moaning, and bitching about it on /smtg/, whose blanket of discussion technically does include persona.

and now that I think of it, the same goes for final as well. really gets those axon terminals heated up

>>175103775
>/smtg/, whose blanket of discussion technically does include persona.
1 and 2 sure
The others? /pg/ exist for a reason.
I don't consider P3-5 megatens.

>>175103209
I doubt they'll make Persona 6 until Hashino is back from his elf RPG.

>>175103951
>I don't consider P3-5 megatens.
P5 has negotions and shadows are now have demon designs. That's more megatan like then DDS 1-2 Persona is my least liked spin off series and I hate P4 but fuck off.

>>175104168
I hope his elf RPG has SMT demons. I would love a Medieval SMT game that is't last bible. God its enemy designs are trash

>>175104205
Can we talk about this for a second? Why is Persona just now finally leaning towards SMT?

>>175104398
it's most likely a ploy by atlus to get more people into SMT.

Back with P3 and P4 there was no desire to do anything SMT related considering SJ wasn't really that big. With the success of 4 and Final, though, atlus is probably saw an opportunity for their purseowner buyers, which is probably why we're getting DSJ and SMTHD, with possible plans for SMT5.

>>175104781
They kind of fucked up then by not putting Shin Megami Tensai on P5 then.

Hopefully SMTHD is't just for the switch

welcome to /smtg/ where all we do is talk about how bad persona is

>>175103000
Just telling it as it is. I'm not an Atlus dicksucker anymore. Their games are OK, but honestly I'm becoming almost indifferent to them since it's the same shit over and over. Like I don't know why people want this >>175104398.

Like, I'd like to see some different RPGs from them, not just slap some demons in there, shift this here and that over there and call it a new game. Might as well just put more effort into the actual mainline SMT if all you want is another SMT game.

>>175105505
Nigga every spin off game is differnt. Persona has VN aspects, dds is akin to ff, desu is Srpg. You can't say it's the same sbit becuase they have the same enemy designs. Their enemy designs (smt demons) are one of and if not the best enemy designs in any Jrpg franchise out there so it's no wonder why people want them in more games you loon.

>>175106110
They re-use demon designs because it's cheap. Not that that's a bad thing

These are really niche games, so them only having to design a handful of new things each game means they save time and money.

Those demon models in Persona 5? We're gonna be seeing those things for like the next 5-10 years

>>175106570
Sweet. Only model that was kinda weak was metatron. The rest looked great.

>>175103775
>using the word dudebros unironically
>thinking Persona is mainstream

>>175107398
Persona fans are not different that Fifa/BF/COD/Halo fanboys anon. Also yes , persona is mainstream.

>>175107602
lmao

P5 barely cracked a million units

>>175107776
that's huge, every 15 year old is playing it

>>175108221
You need to go outside more

or do something to gain perspective

>>175108412
I think you do, nigga.

Even people that barely care about JRPGs have heard of persona at this point, if only for dumb shit like the homophobia accusations or ammo for the console wars.

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>>175107602
>Yo dude what yah favorite waifu bruh!

>>175057558
I like its gameplay.

>but it's not a flawless 10/10 game
Whatever, I still enjoyed it a lot.

>>175108652
Heard of it, maybe, not playing it.

Also just cuz nerds on websites talk about it doesn't mean it's mainstream

Go talk to some rando on the street, they probably won't know what Persona even is

>>175097836
Thanks, and I mean it. The more I listen to it, the more I like it. I fuckin love french horns, dude.

>>175106110
Well that's good for you then, I guess. I don't want to bother with their games anymore beside Persona, which is the best they can offer and the definitive experience from Atlus. Like wow, DeSu, such a unique and novel experience. Basically a bunch of Persona VN segments, then throws you on some open field where the combat is basically just from any other game they've released lately. Feels like an SRPG second and they should've put more effort into their "mainline" game. If the fantasy game is just more slapping demons into shit and calling it new, they can wait until P6 until they get anymore money from me. Here's hoping it's something different and hopefully an ARPG this time. :)

>>175108949
>heard of it
Well yes, if a large amount of people are aware something exists, then it's popular.

>nerds on websites talk about it
And nerds in colleges, high schools, universities...you do know people discuss vidya in public and not always just on fourchan slash vee and vee jee, yes?

>go talk to some rando
Most people on the street don't even know what fucking number president trump is, what the actual situation in syria is, and can't point out pakistan on a map.a good 70% of people are pretty fucking dumb and just care about their next paycheck and meal, dude

>>175109931
GTAV is mainstream

GTAV has sold like 30 million+

Persona 5 has sold 1 million.

Also people being dumb has nothing to do with the argument. Persona 5 is not mainstream.

>>175109806
fuck, dude, can you even enjoy plot, music, gameplay, any of that anymore without worrying about 'definitive experiences' and shit? it sounds like you just don't like video games in general, not even just atlus games, because you're so burned out on them. i'd suggest getting a different hobby then coming back or it'll lead to shit like this where you're complaining to a bunch of anons on a vietnamese tapestry board

Need some help on P5, I'm trying to get Futaba Passionate Listener trophy in NG+ and I'm at the end of the 7th palace, is there any area in that palace or mementos where there are tons of enemies with AoE ailments?

>>175110529
wouldn't it be better to ask /pg/?

>>175103000
>be a normie
>become a fan of Atlus games
>suddenly stop liking them because anon said so

K.

>>175110661
No one talks about any in-game tips there it's all
>MAKOTO IS GREAT
>MAKOTO IS SHIT
>GORO IS HOT!!!!
>PANCAKES
>MUH WIFE