/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

nth for how is your game going?

If Godot is so good then why are there no Godot agdg games?

Name even one indie game that was made on source. Not a ""game"", I mean a real yesdev Game.

CL for scripting, Idris for the engine

>>174940853
Zeno Clash

>>174940853
Fistful of Frags?

>8ch hates Source
>420chan hates Source
>desuchan hates Source
>4chan hates Source

What is actually wrong with it? Can someone explain why Source is so bad?

>>174940936
ZC was source?
thats pretty cool

>>174940875
>not making your own special snowflake lisp like everyone else
do you even

>>174941017
LISP IS THE MOST POWERFUL LANGUAGE

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I want to incorporate Blast Pit style puzzle into my game. Yay or nay?

>>174940459
>GM shit the bed with their last update.

How so?

>>174940982
And Zeno Clash 2 used UE3.

I will leave the conclusion as an exercise to the reader.

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Working on enemies is fun. Been working on this guy. He is going to be quite difficult, able to punch your shit out if you get close, slam you with his hammer, and also charge you into the wall as his most powerful attack.

>>174941531
I like the little frame of weight when it falls in his hands.

>>174940853
Alien Swarm

>>174941772
>valve is indie

>>174941531
nice rorclone

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Squirrel Sphere - Basketball minigame

Try to score a basket using various ramps and obstacles. 10 courts with increasing difficulty.
This is a concept of what an easy court would be like

>>174941887
You forgot to replace the placeholder textures.

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so ill probably be doing a kickstarter late to mid may, hopefully by that point ill have my AI, sword combat, and gun combat all at least functional and presentable.

realistically for a no asset/art game what would be a reasonable amount to ask for? i would need enough to pay someone to help me with networking and art.

should i not even bother with a kickstarter and just fund it myself?

>>174941214
as long as it doesnt involve a lengthy fetch quest to push three buttons that you can't find easily.

>>174941982
What are you even planning for this game? What's the core loop?

>>174941662
Thanks

>>174941858
Thanks

>>174941982
>art
Should be simple to ask around for rates. You can get an actual number for this, if you know how many characters you need

>networking
Depending on how your game is coded now this could be a massive task. You're aiming for low latency and replicating all of your physics across the network?

>>174942125

a multiplayer foccused fighting game with a linear single player campaign if i can do either of those.

>>174941982
Fund it yourself
What are you honestly going to spend the money on if youre going to keep it artless?

>>174942291

>You're aiming for low latency and replicating all of your physics across the network?

more or less. i'm aware this could be extremely difficult. i would be happy even with basic peer to peer with just 2 person pvp or co-op but these kinds of games don't typically have multiplayer for a reason.

>>174942502

help with networking/moddeling, i can't do that myself. i wasn't planning on keeping it artless.

i could do the art myself but that would slow my workflow down a lot.

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>>174941982

400,000 dollars.

>>174942728
>i wasn't planning on keeping it artless.
oh, well then sure, i can see this getting some traction, especially if you put in your own sandbox tools for people to make their own stuff. Like someone re-making 2fort and other iconic maps/modes.

>>174942619
Iirc you're using the unity ragdoll with custom movement, right? I thought that the ragdoll doesn't replicate at all. You might have manually record all the bone positions and send them. Maybe an authoritative server would be a good model here?

But I think once you get the physics replicating at all, whether it's 1v1 or a 100 person FFA is a matter of scaling. The fundamental system should work with either way

>>174941887
Went back and watched your greenlight trailer, your game actually looks kind of fun
Nice job anon

>>174942984

no its a custom rig i made out of rigid bodies and joints.

where would be a good place to start with learning how to setup an authoritative server for games?

>>174941982

i would probably back this. i couldn't give you an estimate on what a good number would be though. probably less than 5000.

Man Chinese localization seems like a clusterfuck hell.
They really need to develop a new unified standard.

>>174941982
Have you considered getting someone to help you with art for ONE character and some backgrounds, then your kickstarter will have more appeal?

>>174943318
The chinese? Or do you mean character encoding?

>>174943581
Well from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WeZ3X_HZ6U
more towards the languages themselves.
But Chinese is also pretty bold and ugly so yeah, thats also a problem.

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>>174943453

i can do some basic art and i was planning to for the kickstarter. the metanoia dev gave me some parts to mess around with as well just to see if it would work but im not sure how that would go legally.

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I recently learned that q3map2 can output ASE models from .map files. Through an unholy process from Noesis to Blender, I have a workflow for making really simple models, like this armor pickup.

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Someone make the 80's jam page please

>>174944051
No because 80's isn't a valid game theme.

>>174943856
If you're doing a KS for art (and also networking but this post is about art) then you're going to need to line shit up with an artist at some point.

Would it not be reasonable to find an artist you're interested in working with before you start the KS, either paying them to make some good "this is what the game will look like" models or paying them up front with the understanding that you want to continue working with them (I think it's better if you get them to do the models without being paid because it shows commitment to the project but I'm sure some/maybe most people would perceive it as a way of getting a free model), and then going into the KS with some "pretty" to draw people in?

Your concept is money worthy already, if you follow through, but the type of people who spend cash on KS like to have something to look at.

>>174943856
I mean, you sign a contract or something to use the assets for advertising? Or he just gives you all rights to them.

I don't even know whether having some art or all placeholders is better. If it's all just boxes it's at least clear why you need $X,000.

>>174944169
Yes it is, and enough people want it.

>>174944169
Is mayonnaise a valid game theme?

>>174944638
yes

>>174941982
>realistically for a no asset/art game what would be a reasonable amount to ask for?
You ask for what you need. Kickstarter is not for just getting whatever money people will give you (yes, yes, I know). So spend some time making a plan, calculating costs and a timeframe. If you're going to be bringing other people onto the team, talk with them about their compensation and commitments/contracts. Kickstarter is like seeking an investment; your investors want to see that you have a plan and the means to execute it within a reasonable timeframe.

Or... you could just say you're making a cool game and ask for whatever the hell you want because your game looks cool and the general public is not that smart about this.

Game Idea

Furtris

Tetris, but with gay furry porn

Continuing on with voice commands for a co-op game, what could be some puzzle solving related lines? I got:
>Push/Pull it!
>Activate/Trigger it!
>On my mark
>Wait/Go!
>3 second countdown
>Slowdown/Speed up

Just throwing some things out there. Would also probably result in people spamming pull it and trigger it.

>>174940716
Can I see your game anon?

>>174944887
Are you creating an asset pack or are you trying to make audio assets before you've even designed the game?

>>174944301

i have a few people who offered to do art for me, i was in contact with one recently but he doesn't really do the style i was after. he mainly does organic characters. i realize the key to KS money is 90% presentable art, not that i'm complaining, it is what it is.

>>174944887
>Put it there!
>Harder!
>Oh, that feels good!

>>174944325

>Or he just gives you all rights to them.

we weren't really clear which is why i can't really use anything anyone gives me. i read up on CC rights and it seems you can get screwed in so many different ways.

>>174945241
In my post I fucked up and suggested paying them twice, but I meant either find an artist that would be interested in participating for the long haul and getting them to make some models for the KS as a show of good faith or paying them if you have to. Either way you're already aware of the possibilities ahead of you, I'm sure.

>>174945097
I like to write down whatever ideas I have floating around in my head so that I can remember them later for when I do implement them. I can also think about how any current systems I am working on might relate to later ideas (hint: currently none relate to voice commands but it helps me to keep looking forward).

>>174945317
G E T I T I N W R I T I N G

>>174945317
>we weren't really clear w
Then make it clear or otherwise you're fucked

>>174945317
Tbh getting a contract for that is probably good to practice. You'll need to have a contract for the final art assets anyway, you don't want to get fucked then without knowing the process

>>174945241
I think having a few pieces of good concept art to show alongside your "prototype" gameplay would be good enough for people. Your webm's have enough entertainment value on their own even in your early state. I imagine people would like the idea of seeing something cool like that and then seeing what it could become after they've funded it. That would actually be different from what we usually see, I think, where people often put up videos of what look like finished games while asking for money, and I think that difference could even be leveraged to your advantage.

>>174945861

i'll see how it goes with my current artist but i'm pretty sure he's going to back out. i think he's expecting me to change my desired style. the art style i want wouldn't really scream click bait meme dollars but its integral to the kind of game i wanted to make.

IS THERE NO EASY SHADER TUTORIAL??

>>174946285

>>174946073

thats what i gathered from a cursory reading of how these things go. you can get fucked six ways from sunday no matter how you try to prevent so its always better to stay safe and not bother with "free assets" no matter how well intentioned.

>>174941964
gonna work on that and a crowd in the arena as well
>>174943004
thanks. once put out a demo ill do another round of marketing and that should help

>>174946358

i had a similar train of thought. i think too much polish early on can kind of feel scammy at this point. like "why would i fund this if they're already done" kind of mentality. but at the same time i'm not really sure where the line is. i guess it really depends on the game.

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Added some extra types of movement for traveling around the Overworld HUB to get to Worlds/Levels

Also put in an orbit mode before entering a World/Level and nifty atmosphere/cloud graphics.

>>174944785

i have a pretty clear grasp on specifically how much i need for what but it would be nice to get just a little additional security if i can. i dont want to milk it for everything i can but if i get slightly over funded i wouldn't complain. i think i'll look around at sucessfully funded games with a similar scope and needs and base it off those.

>>174947796
pretty basic but this looks kind of neat. you should make a 3D shmup Rtype gradious kind of game.

>>174941531
Can't see the left arm in the impact/follow-through, looks a bit janky

>>174947796
Overworlds are kind of tedious, though have a lot of nostalgia factor. Maybe put some easy enemies or an obstacle course or something in there

>>174948372
Why are overworlds tedious? Admittedly I really enjoyed the calm sailing of Wind Waker.

>>174948594
Wind Waker travel was filled with mini-adventures. Storms, enemies, treasure-hunting, platforming. And once you get halfway or so through they give you limited teleportation as they realise that sailing from one side of the map to the other would be boring.

If there's no gameplay in the the overworld it's just a really slow level-select menu.

>>174947858
>it would be nice to get just a little additional security if i can.
I would absolutely factor that into the goal amount as well if I were doing a Kickstarter. My post wasn't to say "don't ask for any more than you absolutely need" so much as to say "do ask for everything that you need."

Hey Ethan B musicguy, if you happen to be here, how much do you charge for say 10 songs?

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>>174868913
Time for my very first progress.

----[ Recap ]----
Game: PixelBrothel
Dev: Unnamed
Tools: C++/SDL2
Web: None Yet
Progress:
+ Functional Garbage Prototype UI
+ Basic Game Mechanic assigning jobs
+ Doesn't Crash
+ Unit-tested, Unit-approved
+ Future UI states should be much faster
- Functional Garbage Prototype UI
- This took me 3 weeks
- No way to add more workers
- 0/10 font

>>174948924
Not totally sure what I would add. I definitely see your point, but i think just adding "Go around this hazard" or "Go through this good thing" isn't really a fix.

Not sure if it is a stimulus problem, where players just want to be doing something "active" all the time. Which I think isn't a problem.

I kind of reject the notion of Sailing across the world in Wind Waker as boring, but I love those visuals and I am a patient person who knows how to relax.

I think the main issue is repetition resulting in the player being bored due to predictability of what is around the next corner. Which I totally agree that it is a problem

The only ideas I can come up with off the top of my head would be
>Maybe something that patrols around and if it sees the player it chases them.
>Something akin to a Day/Night Cycle where visuals change
>World itself moves around so getting from A-B is unpredictable
>GUI with a small 2d mini-game to keep "ship engines" running.

>>174949719

he's offline right now, i know him IRL. what kind of game is it?

>>174941982
>should i not even bother with a kickstarter
yes you should bother with it, its free money baby
and like you said you need to hire networking and art people

how much should you ask for? As much as you think you could get

>>174950170
rather ironically given what everyone has been talking about with this prospective jam, high-paced sci-fi / synthwave

>>174950449
he does comisions whenever he can, he's leaving for LA soon. whats your email i'll give it to him.

his email is:

[email protected]

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>>174950629

not bad. i like the road layout.

>>174950449

i woke him up, he said he can get back to you tommorow, just send him an email now and he'll check it out.

>>174950629
Hi Bartum

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----[ Recap ]----
Game: Legacy Code
Dev: legcodev
Tools: GMS, Photoshop
Web: legacycode.itch.io
Progress:
+ Random polish and number tweaks
+ Refactor tiny amounts of code
- Went camping for a few days

>>174951140
oh man this was an unnecessary response

I'm going to email him right now though

Anyone familiar with Gamemaker?
I'm trying to get my walking sprite to look right, and it does on its own, but not with the stationary sprite in the cycle as well.

I want to skip over the first image in the set when walking is initiated, what's the easiest way to do that?

>>174951549
Make two sprites, one for standing, one for walking. Switch between them by setting sprite_index, image_index, and image_speed.

>>174951549
I just woke up, but this should still make more sense than it does.

>>174951549
I have almost zero idea what you're trying to say, but if you want to skip over the first frame, just manually set image_index to 1 when you're setting the animation.

>>174951915
Wouldn't that just keep it on the second image indefinitely when movement is initated?

>>174952016
if image_speed is set to 1, it'll progress normally.

So like, on initiate:
sprite_index = sp_whatever;
image_index = 1;
image_speed = 1;

If you've already got animations playing normally, then image_speed is likely already set, meaning you won't have to double down on it.

>>174951775
>>174951915
Okay I have stationary sprites and a walking cycle.
When my character walks the stationary sprite sticks out like a sore thumb, how can I skip over that stationary sprite while walking is initiated so it just goes through the image index from 1-9 instead of 0-9.

>>174952016
image index declares starting frame of animation when the animation is called

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>>174952117
>>174952171
Trying this, it just stays on the second image when moving.

>>174952117
Is your stationary sprite interlaced in the walking animation? Meaning like, stationary is frame 0, frames 1 ~ whatever are for walking?

if so you could always do something like,
if walking && image_index == 0
image_index = 1;

With this in the step event, it'll switch off the stationary frame before drawing it, meaning it'll never be displayed. If you don't have a walking variable, you can test it against speed.

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>>174952163
what the hell, why do you have a standing sprite in a walking animation?
What are you trying to achieve with it?
just delete the fucking frame in sprite editor and set a proper idle

>game maker noob question

i want to make sure that if i press the jump key 2 to 50 pixels in advanced of landing on a block that a jump will occur after i land.

currently i have

if (place_meeting(x,y+2,obj_wall) && key_jump == 1)
{
delayedjump = 1;
}

what is a good way to get it so that i can use this code for y+ 2 or y+3 or y+4 ... y+50 without typing it all out or is my thinking retarded and i should just make it so that it's y + a dynamic variable?

>>174952312
Sorry, this was ment for >>174952016
But I guess >>174952163 sort of covered it.

>>174952305
You're constantly setting image_index to 1. You're only supposed to set it to one when initializing, but >>174952312 would account for that + looping the animation

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>tfw you were losing at your own game but then you realize a strategy you could have used

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>>174952323
Because I don't know what I'm doing

>>174952437
When I try that it tells me the argument is malformed. I don't have a walking variable, just speed.

>>174952471
>>deletes obj_enemy

>>174952607
..Then check it against speed.

The idea is, if you're in the state of "walking" and image_index is equal to zero, immediately set it to one. How you check to see if the player is "walking" is up to you and your variables.

That being said, having your idle animation as a single frame, which has been nested in your walk cycle, isn't the best of plans to start with.

>>174952751
I am checking it against speed.
I also fixed the error so it "works", but putting the code like that not only doesn't stop it from putting in the stationary frame, it now keeps the walking frame even when stationary.
I'm just gonna remove the idle frame, but that means I need to rewrite my move script a bit.

this only took a few minutes to come up with so excuse me if i fucked up. i think my logic is right though

https://pastebin.com/j22V4srg

>>174952423
check if it's not meeting y + 1
AND it's meeting y + 50

that ensures it's inbetween 2 and 50

>>174952471
>tfw losing at your own game so you delete the part you were losing at

>>174953123 was a reply to >>174952423, my bad

>>174952607
>Because I don't know what I'm doing
alright, I'm not a stellar coder but I can tell you
>>174952305
this is a weird as shit way to go about it, since you're already checking if there is movement and what direction are you facing
just make a walking sprite and standing sprite and call them separately with if/else just like you're doing now
I don't see you actually declaring the sprite single time in that code so I'm assuming you're just working with the one you put into the object
that's a shit way to do it unless you don't plan to have any other animations on that character

if you just had sprite_idle and sprite_move, you could have the same code you have right now, you would be just saying

if (!moved) {
sprite_index = sprite_idle;
image_speed = 0; //this could actually me an animation, but whatever
image_index = 0; //this would be actually redundant
} else {
sprite_index = sprite_move;
image_index = 0;
image_speed = 1;
facing = get_facing (dir);
}

>>174952883
>it now keeps the walking frame even when stationary
That's really weird. You're checking this in the step event right?
Something like
if hspd*vspd != 0 && sprite_index == sp_walking && image_index == 0 {
image_index = 1;
}

Cause there's no way that should get locked on it's self. Whenever it meets the trigger condition, it sets image_index to 1, meaning it'd breaks those same conditions.

Sorry if this hasn't been helpful, it's hard to debug someone else's code by proxy without knowing how they've set everything up.

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>>174953264
Yes it's in the step event.
My sprites are named like this however.

>>174953221
I'll try this in a second, only I have four separate sprites for each direction, the latter two are the animated ones, was importing all the animated but got hung up on this so I stopped for now.

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>>174953437
And this is my step event as is.

>>174953437
Can I ask what sort of game you're making? If your direction sprites are actually redrawn, then good on you, but if you're just rotating the sprite to face other directions, I'd suggest using image_angle instead.
But one step at a time, I guess.

>>174953593
It's an RPG. They're separate sprites.
The down and I will assume up sprites are fine, it's the right/left sprites that look weird because idle the arms and back are straight, while when walking the character's arms curve and they slouch a bit so their stomach pokes out.

>>174952305
The code here sets image_index to 1 for every tick that the character is supposed to be moving, hence why it locks on the second frame.

Try something like
if !moved {
image_speed = 0;
image_index = 0;
}else if image_index = 0 {
image_speed = 1;
image_index = 1;
facing = whatever;
}

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Castle Tycoon but you control your own character rather who has to move around to do things rather than a UI-heavy top-down overview in most tycoon games. Lose state is your character dying to assassins or natural causes (you have little/no combat skills of your own, but you have bodyguards).

>>174954267
>Tycoon but you control your own character rather who has to move around to do things

sounds positively awful

>>174954254
It still plays the 0 sprite.

>>174954475
Well fuck.

Steps is calculated before any drawing takes place, idea was if you changed off the frame before the draw event came around it'd never display.

>>174954662
Well that's the movement script, not the step event in the player object.

My step event is here >>174953553

Well at any rate thanks for the help guys. You all tried, I'm just too dumb and inexperienced I think. And tired.

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>>174953220
>>174953123
This works well thanks.

i do want to ask though, is there a way to use a range of numbers in general?

The only thing i've seen is random_range, irandom_range, min and max


>>174953175
couldn't get your idea to work. is there an example you have of this logic working? It would be useful knowledge for the future

>>174954849
i use the superior xna

made my own engine :)

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>>174944638
>>174944765
ATTACK HELICOPTER JAM.

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How's your progresss going today, anon-kun?

>>174954807
Alright I just tested this, I was assuming that if the script is called during the step event, then the step won't (shouldn't) finish until the script returns a value.

The image index thing works if it's run out of step, but not if it's run out of a script executed during the step.
So maybe just tag

if hspd*vspd != 0 && image_index = 0 {
image_index = 1;
}

directly into the step event.

>>174955145
That's still playing the 0 sprite for me.

You tested it? Can I see your code? I can't imagine why it would work for you but not for me.

>>174955341
Made a sprite with the first frame a red box, then roughly 10 other frames which were all blue boxes of various shades.
Made an object, assigned the sprite.

Create event:
image_speed = 1;

Step event:
if image_index = 0 {
image_index = 1;
}

Dropping the object in a room and compiling only ever shows the blue boxes.
Tested this in GM8.0 as well as Studio 1, but I don't have access to S2.

When I ran it again with setting the image_index via a script, the red frame would be drawn.

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>>174955574
Oh wait, my image speed is 0.
Well fuck me that fixed it, setting image speed in create to 1. Thanks.

I dunno if I should be happy or slap myself.

Is the main problem with making money on mobile games that it is too easy to pirate? What about using advertisements and in-game cosmetics/currencies? It seems like there aren't that many "good" games and you can actually stand out if you have something that isn't a clash or sim clone.

>>174955854
If you're just selling the game, it's easy to pirate. On android the piracy rate is like 95%.

You can't pirate microtransactions, so that's where most of the money is made.

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>tfw considering googums patreon to get him to him draw cute girls
>first bullet point is that he can refuse

>>174956030
>googum
>cute girls

if you like giraffe girls

>>174955854
>It seems like there aren't that many "good" game
Actually this is one of the main problems. The market is completely flooded with shovelware, to the point where it's very hard to get a good game noticed.

At this point it's almost a numbers game:
Spend a year making a really solid game, OR release like 12 half assed free to play clones in the same time. Think about things like flappy bird. Games don't need to be these deep, well designed things to rake in money, so people just push out garbage hoping that one of them will be the next big thing.

>>174956101
>he doesn't remember googum before his final form

he wasn't always like this

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>>174955854
The main problems with making money on mobile games are that nobody is willing to pay for them, there are a billion similar games out there and piracy is extreme; that and you cant actually make a decent game for mobile controls.

The only people who make money off of mobile games are companies with the connections and financial backing to do saturation marketing and cheat the app ranking charts with fake downloads. If you don't have both of those things going for you game, you won't even get a singledownload, let alone be able to monetise your game.

>>174956149
how do we know this is the real googuns and not just a particularly spicy shitpost phantom though

>>174956546
He posted content from his loli-sim artistic aberration on both his site and twitter, so it's safe to say that its really him and the meltdown probably hasn't even begun yet.

I'm new here, are mmo devs welcome?

>>174956819
Yes, post your MMO.

>>174956932
fuk no

>>174956819
only if you give free memberships to agdg

>>174955115
the semester's almost over
I-I'll get to my game in the summer, o-ok?
this shit is tough

>>174956030
the refusal clause is to protect me from furries

>>174957657
do you ever do just regular ass comissions

>>174957803
thats too much like wagie for me.

what kind of variables do I need to throw something in an arc in 3D and how would they change over time? i feel so retarded

http://poal.me/47u15f
http://poal.me/47u15f
http://poal.me/47u15f

>>174958019
Don't mind the shitposts
Construction jam is nice.
And don't fucking use a poll that can let other users add.

>>174957927
Make a velocity vector and add a gravity vector to it every frame. If you're not experienced it's probably easier to use a physics engine.

>>174958019
>>174958080
tumor jam is winning.

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>>174958019

>don't suggest stuff like "fuck jams"

>>174958240
So gogem jam? nice

>>174958206
no im pretty smart i will do it thanks

>>174958334

gogem jam could be fun

>>174958240
Whats wrong with loli jam though

>>174958536
How many real entries for loli jam were there again? Like 2?

>>174958536
Apparently nobody but two people wanted to make games for it.

>>174958630
>>174958609
>>174958536
that's fine, lets make every jam loli jam
i'll expand loli sim each time.

>>174958240
>don't suggest meme or meaningless themes, they will be ignored

>>174958609
>>174958630
Then if admin doesn't like loli jam then we'll do construction jam.
You guys are making it complicated

>>174958724
>if admin doesn't like
who gives a fuck what admin thinks? he doesnt even make games polls dont count as games.

>>174958630

i think a lot of people might have abandoned midway once they saw the amount of hatred people were expressing toward loli jam.

>>174958770
>>174958770
polls have more gameplay than your 'games', goog

>>174954857
what do you mean by a range of numbers? are you looking for something like clamp? https://docs.yoyogames.com/source/dadiospice/002_reference/maths/real%20valued%20functions/clamp.html

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I really cant seem to get this thing to run on my system. Unity just shows pic related and never gets past it. Please send help.

>>174958839
What are you system specs?

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>>174958904

>>174958019
>literally ZERO gameplay suggestions except maybe construction which is not even new
This is the state of agdg
And whatever theme wins, people will complain that it's not gameplay-related and generic
Fuck you all faggots

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>>174959036
>obviously ironic poll
>"This is the state of agdg Fuck you all faggots"

>>174959231
Just like your games are obviously ironically bad right?

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>>174959279
shitposter aint got no chill

http://poal.me/gfreah
http://poal.me/gfreah
http://poal.me/gfreah

>>174959036
>This is the state of agdg

Someone with a functioning brain would realize that the reason your poll is getting shit on is because people are sick of shitty jams and the retarded cunts who push these polls without an ounce of commonsense or organization.

Instead of being an autistic faggot and trying to line up yet another jam right after loli jam failed and in the middle of LD, maybe you should consider dropping the jam thing until people are actually show some interest in having one again?

>>174959446
>someone is doing something I don't like
>should I ignore them?
>nah I'll tell them how much I hate it, that will surely make them stop
Yeah nah you're retarded. 90% of Jam shitposting is made by people like you who don't give a fuck about Jams.

>>174958997
Have you tried reinstalling yet? Also your gfx card is hot as fuck, get some more case fans.

waifu jam soon friends

>>174959572
I'm sure there's a subreddit you ca take your shit ideas if you don't want people telling you how retarded you are.

>>174959573
Yes i reinstalled a few mintes ago to check before posting here.
I also think it's kinda hot, but if we should belive sources apparently the card can go up to 80 C and then the fans will start spinning faster to not go over that. I don't think i have room for more fans anyway. It's a small case.

>>174959572
Stop shitting up the thread with polls for jams that nobody wants to do and people will stop probably messing with your polls.

You only need to look at how many serious answers you got for your poll to see that absolutely nobody wants a new jam and absolutely everyone wants you to fuck off.

>>174959771
I'm sure there's a subreddit where people don't make game jams, you can go there if you want.

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Make Generated Name Jam happen!

How do you feel about Jams in agdg?
http://poal.me/bkszie

>>174959774
Well you're probably fucked then. Try UE4 or godot, I guess.

>>174959362
>Construction
>Monster
>Generated Name
Video game

>Loli
>Shota
>Christmas
Video shame

>>174960170
rip... That goes my opportunity to make GOT 2017

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mogishodev do this with hearts

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>>174959362
>monster is winning
>mfw I suggested that only so I can make a monster girl game

>>174959774

my card also runs at 80 degrees, i thought it was normal.

Why aren't there any decent games that were made with Godot?

>>174960850

because you haven't made one yet.

>>174960887
I haven't been convinced to use Godot instead of a better engine, so duh

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>>174934060
It makes more sense when you've been doing music for a while and just see sound things as sort of layers of disparate elements.

So you just think about how you'd make the sound in your head out of the little building blocks, I made a little jetpack noise with my mouth then thought about how I could implement each tiny bit of my mouth noise into real audio.

So I'd need a little techno sound like an object activating, a sound like a rocket firing or an afterburner, the sound of the rocket sustaining it's firing and a sound of the rocket flaming out.

I used a little neuralyzer like sound I made in alchemy a while ago (really good synth for sound design as it has a really good granular synth engine in it) layered on top of an explosion sound for the jet firing, I used the sound of like a gas stove to be the sustaining sound, then another explosion enveloped up with a low pass filter put on it to make it sound like muted flames. Bit of EQ'ing and reverb and what not for sound quality and you're done.

Most of what will make it sound neat and tidy is the timing and enveloping of everything though.

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A-a-a-a-a-arlight I meann alright agdg how h-h-h-how did I-i-i-I do?

>>174959573
>61C
>hot

mate

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My LD entry: https://noro.itch.io/petit-adventure
A small rpg but helluva lot of coding even for this simple one. Not sure if I want to make rpg again.
(meme times) Made with Godot btw.

>>174961789
REEEEEEEEE PEDO DEV
jk looks cute and well done
good job

>>174961621
logo good
game bad

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>java

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>>174962058
>adventure game studio

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https://raw.githubusercontent.com/miloyip/game-programmer/master/game-programmer.jpg

what level u @ bois?

>>174961621
I like it yet it's hard to read. How can it be fixed? I don't know.

I like games that operate on tabletop paradigms, dice checks and the like, cause you can be a lot crunchier and more complex when the computer's handling the math overhead.

So I'm fucking around with goofy ideas for resolving tests. If I'm doing an opposed test, character's X vs opponent's Y, how stupid do you think it'd be to add X+Y=Z and roll 1dZ, with success if the result is under X?

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>>174962303
I moved the text down a bit, the K was clashing with his white foot.

>>174962035
omg thanks Iv been hoping I could make a good logo on my own iv been asking agdg for months if I could pay someone to draw me boxart/a logo and I couldnt find anyone willing since everyone dislikes Bokube heheh.

>>174962394
Better

What does agdg thinks about XNA/FNA/Monogame? Pretty good games were made with it, like Terraria, Axiom Verge, Stardew Valley, etc. Plus its C#, nice and easy

>>174962394
I like it anon.

>>174962394
This version is more readable than the last one. Also don't spaz so much.

>>174940978
dev tools are shit

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>>174963075
>>174962865
>>174962476
Is this version better without all the white space?

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>>174963450
Or how about this with straighter BG lines?

>>174963450
get rid of the tiles and just do solid colors.

>>174963450
As bad as the previous one. You have weird smudgy gradient between the colors, the rabbit has a white outline that is barely visible on beige, and the whole thing is too bright and completely out of tune with the rabbit and text colors.

>>174941531
The hammer drop effect looks fucking sick.
I'm not an artist but this looks great to me.
Obviously I can't notice small things but overall it looks dope.

>>174964050
oh shit nigga real g games steppin through

>>174954317

>>174954267 actually sounds awesome, but it would probably be hard to design properly

HELP ME THINK OF AN IDEA AGGY PLEASE :(

>>174964050
i unironically began my game devving adventure with this thing
it was before i could lay my hands on tgf

>>174965056
A game where you suck AGDG's collective dicks.

>>174965117
tranny girlfiend?

>>174965221
Real answers only please. I really need an idea right now. Something I can make in less than a week. Nothing too big.
Just want my short vacation to be as productive as possible.

>>174965512
connect 3

>>174965512
That was a real answer. Besides if you're going to be that much of a bitch, just use an idea generator and JLMG.

>>174965056
Pong

WITH GUNS

>>174965056
A game where you have to code a game against the clock. You mash the keyboard to make lines of code. Go too fast and your mania bar goes too high and you and your computer burn out. Go too slow and you generate too much apathy and the game is never finished. Random events change the amount you can safely code.

In the end you make a game that no one notices

>>174965720
wtf this is my idea

>>174965720
Suing you for plagiarizing my life

>>174965795
its now everyones for free :-)

>>174965056
tower defense but you control the attackers

>>174965867
At least some success will come of it

>>174965720
>>174965795
>>174965867
apparently the idea that i've been keeping from anyone is not as original as I thought
because this is MY idea as well...

>knee deep in the guts of my RPG menu code

i need a cigarette

i quit 2 years ago

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Who wants to rip my ludum dare entry a new asshole?
https://shodanon.itch.io/tumblin-down

>>174965953

Real time strategy game?

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hey guys how does my character look?

>>174966265

vape bro

>>174966337
With his eyes I guess

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>>174966379

>>174966369
I chew the nasty nicotine gum

>>174966337
Is this an h-game?

>>174965680
I really want to make this right now but it's past my bedtime.

Is the point of shaders that you can change the hue of everything quickly or wtf?

>>174966470

Just stop taking nicotine :)

>>174967104
Shaders can do all kinds of visual effects. They can modify the pixel values/positions and 3D model shapes and similar stuff very quickly.

>>174965680
Neetdev rippoff

Vaporwave Jam when?

>>174967104
https://www.shadertoy.com/

Wait, so how does pixel art not feel tedious as fuck? I get that when artists get good, they can draw more quickly because they have the idea of what they're drawing in their head more clearly and the skill to translate it, but with pixel art there doesn't seem to be a way to avoid going pixel by pixel. How is that not numbing, or at the very least hand cramping considering you're doing all that shit with a mouse?

>>174968082
I thought we were having a gelatinous cube jam?

>>174968171
>Using a mouse for anything art related

Tablets exist for a reason.

>>174968171
How is any art not tedious?

>>174968208
Don't you mean >DMCA Jam

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>>174968253
>

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>demoday posting
>lasts a week tops, visibly begins fading away not even after the submitting period is over
>jam posting
>lasts well over a month with the same intensity

>>174968171
>you're doing all that shit with a mouse
>art
You're doing it wrong is how you're doing it.

Making any kind of 2D art is equally tedious. If you don't do pixel art there's a lot more polishing that you need to do, and it probably takes even longer. I don't find pixel art tedious, it's fun to do. I do find programming way more tedious though.

>>174968171
>how does pixel art not feel tedious as fuck?
it really doesn't once you know how to actually do it
>but with pixel art there doesn't seem to be a way to avoid going pixel by pixel.
there is

it works like with everything else
you gid fucking gud and develop good workflow, think outside the box and discover shortcuts

>>174968171
I find it less grating than high res art because the pixel placement is very precise and it makes me feel like all pixels I place are one step toward a better piece but when drawing with a tablet you have to be very careful when you draw each line and if your hand slips an inch you have to erase the whole line and draw it again and repeat until you get a proper line and do it multiple times all the time whereas on pixel art all you would have to do is move a few pixels or paint over the part you screwed up. And this is even more of an issue when doing animation.

>>174968171
By the way theres nothing wrong with using a mouse for art if you dont need the features a tablet has

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>>174960732
Thought they turned out fairly well honestly! The color doesn't clash either (though I do miss the blue)

>>174968495
I understand that people have different talents and skills and whatever, but I have an incredibly hard time understanding how someone can find programming tedious but not art

idea-less devs, go here and steal some shit
>>>/v/374939239

>>174968968
Art: Draw thing see result
Programming: Work for hours or days before result
I can see it

>>174969134
>Art: Draw thing see result
yeah! just be yourself, man!
now draw the rest of the fucking owl!

>>174968968
>>174969302
autism

>>174969302
yes assuming you can both draw and program

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I'm split on how I want to sort data and display it, I can make a strong case for either.

A: More intuitive flow for how new data would be added visually (like how we read left to right). Would look nice if entire grid is shown but odd if only displaying rows with data.

B: Can take up less screen real estate if you only display columns with any data, adding new ones as they fill in. Would look odd if the entire grid is shown.

Note: most of the menus currently in-game are single vertical columns being scrolled up and down.

>>174969367
But I didn't post that second thing
I guess I can understand what they're saying, though. On the other hand, if something doesn't work as a programmer, you just debug it. If something doesn't work as an artist, theres no definite why to why it isn't working, and there's no real guarantee that you'll be able to get what you want if you keep working at it, rather than just good enough.

>>174969093
Those are shit ideas, wtf.

>>174969857
Depends on what you're using it for and why. I don't think it'd be too confusing to do A usually, but B when screen real estate is at a premium like in battles.

if you can program you should practice drawing more and if you can draw you should practice programming more

flexibility is strength

>>174970134
But I don't enjoy drawing

>>174970257
This. It makes me cry every time I pick up a pencil.

>>174970352
Draw with pen

>>174970257
>>174970352
then you are stunting your own potential for growth

>>174970134
>be a jack of all trades instead of becoming a master of one
Another quality shit advice provided to you by amateur /agdg/ general

>>174971035
Jack of all trades with a game > master of one with nothing

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>>174964602
Got a 3D model version of the logo going now! Gonna use it for the in-game main menu. I have to fill the holes with the colored tiles.

>>174971035
Post you are game.

Art focused games with shit gameplay are the bane of indies.

>>174971035
>he doesn't explore all aspects of gamedev
>he's okay with being just a replacable tool

you'll never master gamedev

>>174971246
I don't have enough VISION to make an amazing game on my own
And I definitely don't have enough composure to keep something to myself, I need someone to bounce ideas with and talk about what I'm working on with, and having a partner in crime fills both those while also giving a unique voice in terms of VISION

>>174971152
>>174971246
Masters of one thing are the people who get hired for teams and work on big games. Jacks of all trades work on pixel platformers alone for 4 years and cry in the bed at night in their tiny apartment when their game flops.

>>174971763
So what are you doing in this thread for AMATEURS?

>>174971763
leave faggot this isn't a "successful business venture" thread

>>174971878
People always talk about getting money and "making it" instead of creating great games, so I don't think so m8.

>>174971937
WIYG

>>174971937
you are telling them to ditch 1MA and get hired by a studio, so what's your fucking purpose in a thread where people make games on their own and people avoid collabs like fucking fire?

>>174971763
>Masters of one thing are the people who get hired for teams and work on big games.

and paid shit wages to work shit hours with shit conditions. Why? Because they're replaceable tools

>>174971937
are you denying the possibility of it

>>174972009
>What
>I?
>You
>Get

Anyone that uses unreal know how to make black deferred decals?

For some reason it makes black parts of the decal transparent by default and I have no idea why or how to stop it doing that.

>>174972085
Smaller teams can have a lot of passion in them and be great places to work at. You can have a lot of control on your side of the project.

>>174972098
At least they make games.

>>174972379
Which decal blend mode are you using? (in the material)

>>174972540
Translucent, currently. Which one should I be using?

>>174972674
If you haven't already, you should go to Edit > Project Settings and enable DBuffer Decals (in Rendering)

That lets you use all the DBuffer blend modes which generally work much better (at a negligible increase in performance cost)

/agdg/ likes comforting lies instead of uncomfortable truths.

Normal for people who live miserable lives.

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Anon, can you step inside my office for a minute? We need to talk.
I have a friend, his son is a very good programmer so I hired him. I need you to train him to do your job, and after that we'll see what we can do with you. We do need someone to oversee the design of the UI, you have some art experience right?
>I u-uh I get u-uncomfortable p-ppicking up pencils
I see, well that's unfortunate. Looks like we're going to have to let you go then, after all we make games here and you're no longer of any use. Thank you for all your years doing whatever tiny contribution you added to this team of 300+ people.

In a sidescrolling shooter, should the player be able to aim anywhere, or only up, down, left, and right?

>>174973120
>>>/biz/pgdg

>>174972782
Tried Dbuffer blend modes and that hasn't done it.

The black sections of the decals display in the content browser preview but not in the material editor preview on in the world as a decal which is puzzling.

>>174973120
>it was an honor working for you and your wife sir
my wife? what do you mean
>oh, oh! uhh nothing sir i was uh... confusing her for someone else haha.... *bites lip*
....

>>174973242
>not in the material editor preview on in the world as a decal
You what?

>>174971698
If you both spend just a small amount of time learning what each other does, then you're speaking the same language and able to convey ideas from greater understanding.

>>174973118
When you say /agdg/ are you including yourself in that group?

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>>174973383
Pic should explain better.

>>174973118
Here's a fun little fact that you might not know. /agdg/ is not one person, it's actually made up of several people. Most threads get over 100 unique posters.

>>174973806
Yeah the material editor preview doesn't like decals, I wouldn't pay too much attention to that.

What is plugged into the opacity? Does anything show up if you make opacity 1 instead?

>>174942035
First good sourcepost I've ever seen.

>>174973146
You mean like a metal slug type game? I guess it'd depend on the design of the game. I'd lean towards at least 8 direction shooting like gunstar heroes (or free shooting with a mouse) if you don't have any specific ideas based around limiting the directions the player can shoot.

>>174973982
>agdg has hundreds of posters
>recaps get about 30 games
explain

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Does this look comfy?

>>174973146
the easier you want your game to be, for the control of the character then add more directions

>>174954267

The Guild 2 is a mixture of RPG and empire building set in the middle ages/ Renaissance era.

>>174974253
Currently the Colour is just a vector set to 0,0,0 (black) and the Opacity is an alpha mask. Although I have tried with black text on transparent background and still no luck.

Setting the opacity to 1 on the one with transparent background doesn't seem to make a difference either.

>>174950146
Im not the guy youre replying to but i dont think you should add anything that makes navigating the overworld more difficult
What you can do is add secret areas with money or collectibles, objects or creatures you can interact with, other ships flying you can talk to, a minigame somewhere, ect.
The shovel knight expansion specter of torment was a good example of an overworld: several characters you could talk to (who sometimes gave you tips), secret areas with collectibles, a few shops, a tower climb minigame, a cute dog you could pet & play ball with, and an area full of rails where you could safely practice rail grinding

>>174973476
Oh, I'd love to help the hypothetical artist I'm working with understand what I'm doing. I love explaining things, because I'm a jerk. I'd also love to try and learn how and what they're doing. It'd at least let me be more helpful when they ask what I think about what they're working on (I have artist friends and it's embarrassing when they ask for opinions and I can't give an answer that is at all useful.)

I probably sound like a faggot, but whatever, we're all anonymoose here and I'm underslept

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Started to do basic movement and inventory management.

>>174974443
>All of the lights are cold colors
>Practically the entire scene is cold colors
>Asks if it's comfy

You don't know what you're doing

>>174974664
Odd.

And this is with 'Dbuffer Translucent Color' as the blend mode?
Does the thing you're applying the decal to have Receives Decals enabled?
Does stuff show up if it isn't black?

>>174974491
Or if he still wants the game to be difficult, but have more intense challenges or more focus on reflexes and enemy design than placement

Twin stick shooters aren't necessarily easy, for example

>>174974443
With a pretty background and more dramatic lighting, maybe

>>174974424
Each game is a collab of at least 3 people

>>174974424
Not everyone likes/cares about the recap

gonna say this

i put a sound effect in my game a little "beep"
where i was testing at what point my character would get stuck on a corner at a specific angled jump

and i find myself sitting inside my game room trying to make the sound effect go off even though i have long fixed the issue


add juice to your game anons

>>174974934
If I change it to a non black color I can get it to display in the world although only on Translucent, Stain and Emissive blend modes and the decal looks pretty washed out.
The washing out might be a separate issue though.

>>174975023
i thought my reply was concise enough

>>174975292
Sound is the point where your game actually starts to feel like a game. A lot of people neglect it until the end but I think sound should be worked on at the same time as graphics and gameplay.

>>174975405
Brevity is the soul of shit
You don't wanna be a shitter do you

>>174975336
The washing out (and barely visible blacks) is a limitation of the standard decal blend modes, they only work well for dynamic lighting and any baked lighting makes them basically useless. DBuffer should fix that.

>>174975595
Hmm, I can't get anything to show up with the DBuffer blend modes on though. Don't know why. I have the settings turned on in Project Setting > Rendering.

>>174975768
Run the game, open console, type r.dbuffer ? and see if it is set to 1.

Not sure if that's one of the settings which requires the editor to be restarted.

>>174974792

Out of curiosity, are the shadowed areas the same colour as the lighter areas?

e.g. is the dark part of the armour the same hue as the lighter part?

why does unity lens flare suck so much

>>174976401
make it yourself you talentless asset hack

>>174943856
Man superjail was such a great show.

File: particools.webm (1MB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 640x480px

Added particle batching, even with lighting drawing in every particle I can get pretty good performance.

what is 'juice'

>>174976401
Because they want you to buy a better one

>>174976047
r.Dbuffer was grey in the console in game (assumed that means its 0), restarted the editor, still grey, checked the setting in project settings to check it is turned on and it is turned on.

This might be the problem then that the setting in the Project Settings is not turning Dbuffer on properly?