/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

>>174690109
That UI looks fucking awful...

Thread's not capped and still on page 1 man, stop falling for the spider meme

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last thread is not capped

Congratulations, OP. You managed to make the spiderman looks like a good guy.

You're a fucking moron.

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>>174690109
>tumblr the race

I hope you're being ironic

>>174690356
Aren't the asari basically space sluts?

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>>174690356
>Asari are now tumblr race
>someone is so retarded to actually write that shit unironically

>>174690109
Is the mod just for the cosmetic portrait or is it a whole "species"?

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Since OP is a retard, I'll paste the new OP that he should have been using, directly from the old thread :


This thread is for all strategy games that do not have their own thread, focusing on 4X (eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, eXterminate).
tags: /cbg/ /rtsg/ /wgg/

>Stellaris
- Future FAQ Pastebin goes here
- WIP Ship Design Guide for 1.5.1 by Anon https://pastebin.com/2QWUPKSh (embed)
- Wiki http://www.stellariswiki.com/Stellaris_Wiki
- (Outdated?) Mod archive https://mega.nz/#F!hpBCSbCC!vZNs1Qhip_UJQPSSdoZjUg
- (Outdated?) Mod recommendations http://pastebin.com/qsTFCyvh (embed)

>Endless Legend
- Manual http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/289130/manuals/User'sManual.pdf?t=1413562467
- Wiki http://endlesslegendwiki.com/Endless_Legend_Wiki

>Civilization Resources
- Fix for Civ IV BTS XML errors: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ljdms8ygix2btcs/AACC_IGIy7zAkomwA6S4DJp3a?dl=0
- Civilization Analyst (Civ VI, Civ V, BE) http://well-of-souls.com/civ/index.html
- District Cheat Sheet https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/civ6.gamepedia.com/2/29/District_Cheat_Sheet.png?version=07510f0f43d7188e00e7046c90360dba (embed)
- CIVILOPEDIA Online (Civ V) http://www.dndjunkie.com/civilopedia/
- Civ V drafter http://georgeskleres.com/civ5/
- Civ V Giant Multiplayer Robot - http://www.multiplayerrobot.co
- Civ V mod workshop http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse?appid=8930
- Civ V mods http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=393
- More mods http://pastebin.com/5ANRmRur (embed)

>Alpha Centauri (SMAC & SMAX)
- Essential improvements http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Sid_Meier's_Alpha_Centauri#Essential_improvements
- Official short stories https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cn11q7nqa00te/Alpha_Centauri

>>174690532
>Asari trait

I would say its a mod.

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>>174690395
>>174690431
Mass effect has faggot tumblr shiil devs

>>174690615
Only since Andromeda.

>>174690615
But andromeda devs aren't original trilogy devs.

>>174690615
>not original trilogy dev
>not someone who made the concept of Asari
>still not answering my question

I mean, fuck i hate that punjabi cunt as much as any sane man but come the fuck on.

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I'll go where I please you anti-social nerd

>>174690615
>not even white
>just tries to justify his jealousy toward white people

>>174690615

Wonder how much he hates having Man in his name

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>>174690640
>>174690672
I said has, which is present tense

Anyway, a game about sexing xenos is as degenerate as it gets

>>174690431
>An entire race of mary sues

Asari are shit tier, now Turians, they are god tier

>>174690823
Nice strawman.

How are they mary sue ?

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>>174690798
Well, you won't be sexing xenos anymore if you're not a woman.

Quick question about uplifting a species. I found one in the bronze age so when the progress bar completes will it only move them to the iron age or will they go straight to space travel? Cause if its only to the iron age I dont think there is enough time in the game to uplift them.

>>174690896
Strawman? Are you getting butthurt because I insulted the waifu race?

Name one fucking flaw about them, they are the most advanced, most powerful, the most peaceful, live a zillion years and they are all attractive and to every, from us to space-raptors

>>174690903
Its enlightening, not uplifting.

And yeah, they jump straight into FTL.

>>174690903

That's not uplifting, that's enlightenment. And they will go straight to the space age, with your techs. They will spawn a new empire, as your protectorate, meaning they can't really do anything without your consent. You may choose to integrate them into your own empire later on, gaining their ships, planets, etc.

Uplifting is when you find a pre-sentient species on a planet. These species usually have unique traits and you have to settle on the planet to be able to uplift them.

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Is this any good? I just "got" stellaris and have only messed around with the empire creation and I want to try a militarist empire.

>>174690109
>Race of natural psychics
>Taking materialist instead of spiritualist

Wow just wow

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Tomorrow the true blobbing begins.

>>174690948
>>174690948
Love the hostility and projection here.

They are not the most powerful, nor they are the most advanced - where do you even get shit like that ?
And it still doesn't make them mary sue, do you even know what this term is about ?

>>174691013
I once took very strong and resilient

my armies steamrolled everything, didnt lose an army in the entire game

>>174691013

Yeah, that'll do good. Xenophobe can be dangerous for a new player since most others will hate you from the get go, even more so since you chose Repugnant.

Your ships will always win an equal engagement due to the immense fire rate boosts from DA, f-militarist and high level admirals.

Personally I'd drop enduring so you can also drop repugnant, if that's possible. Enduring is extremely good, but since you have DA as a civic and are a militaristic nation, it's not as good since if a leader dies you can immediately replace them with someone nearly as good.

>>174691079
You should have added a grossgermanium empire so that you can liberate them.

>>174691079
>khebabistan

kek, what is your race?

>>174690972
Ok thats good news. Was worried for a second that it would take 500 years which didnt seem right. Still 100 years to bring these guys to space. Im gonna do it no matter what for fun but is it worth it at all?

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>>174691195

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>>174691321

>>174691131
>>174691153
Thanks lads, will drop enduring and repugnant. is there anything i should know going in?

>>174691013
I'd trade Enduring for something else. It's barely noticeable and isn't a hard number, so your leaders generally die the same age they would without that trait anyway. It's wasted imo.

>Start pacifist game
>Becomes boring as shit once you get boxed in and borders are settled

What do you do to make this shit interesting

>>174691352
>aren't i politically subversive?

>>174691525
start liberation wars
vassalize the new empires
absorb them into yours

>>174691321

>Khebab Imperium
>Cockroach race

Kek

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Fug :D

Everyone but the hive is aligned against me

>>174691531

Why do you keep calling people out for being "politically subversive" whenever they make a post you don't like?

>>174691654
Why do you get upset when I call you politically subversive?

>>174691654

Hes a butt ravaged shitskin

>>174691684
Because it's off-topic shit-stirring bullshit. Now fuck off.

>>174691684

Because your posts are garbage, don't pertain to the thread, and nobody really gives a shit. I'm wondering why you think it's OK to shit up the general.

>>174691737
>>174691760
Why do you keep calling innocent people out whenever they make a post you don't like?

>>174691860

>deflects arguments and instead accuses the opponent of something else entirely

t. muslim

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>>174691653
You could probably remove a wormhole station in the middle, without hurting your travelling range.

>>174691905
>>174691653
Time for a good old purge.

>>174691905
>remove a wormhole station

There's never any benefit in doing that m8

>>174691102
>not the most advanced
Out of the citadel races, yes they are
>not the most powerful
When it comes to biotics, yes they are, they're the only ones who can use biotics from birth, with no drawbacks whatsoever (whilst everyone else has to use implants and have to balance power and mental instability)
They absolutely are mary sues, I know this because I've actually played the games rather than wanking off to ugly blue cunts on tumblr

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>>174691321

>>174691992
*tips fedora*

>>174691953

I keep purging my nearest neighbor but I can't destroy his last planet so he keeps growing back

>>174691957
Wormholes cost 0.25 energy each, buddy! That's pretty expensive in the long run!

>>174691992
mo money for mah programmes

>barely making 200 minerals
>get voidborne and that perk that makes megastructures cheaper and faster
>start building the next habitat before the first one even finishes
When's this shit getting nerfed?

>>174692143

Habitats don't need to be nerfed, dyson spheres and ringworlds need to be buffed

>>174691979
>they are the most powerful
>no they are not
>well yes they are in those specific categories

kys faggot.

>>174692183
But the AI can't handle it and (I'm assuming) the mid to late game in MP consists of every single player building 3 habitats in every single one of their systems, making the perk almost a requirement

>>174692203
I don't know why you two are flinging shit about Mass Effect in this thread, but the fact of the matter is that 99% of Mass Effect wars are apparently decided by ground combat, judging by the series
And the Biotic fuckery of ME1 and explosions of ME3 mean Biotics can beat anything
If Krogans were Vanguards in the canon, that would change

>>174692225
What really needs to be buffed is defense stations desu

It seems that, at best, you can make a defense station that has fleet strength equal to 1/10 -> 1/20 a main sized fleet no matter the tech era, so no matter how you look at it they're useless

And turning a system into a flower arrangement of defense stations that still die easily one by one is not the solution

>>174692296
Mass Effect is shit anyway.
>Krogans are super strong
>get rekt by the federation
>humans arrive, pick a fight with the federation
>somehow manage to beat them

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>>174691992
>>174691321

>Stellaris turned us into space/gsg/

Why build a dyson sphere when you can just build a few habitats focused on energy generation?

>>174692373
Chill its just /gsg/ leaking over.
Ignore and report.

>>174692350
I haven't played ME:A but the whole war dynamic was always stupid
We need to bail the Turians out from these giant sentien space ships LET'S GET THE SPECIES WHOSE ENTIRE SHTICK IS GROUND COMBAT ON BOARD

>>174692403

Cons:
Habitats increase unity and science costs
Dyson spheres are unconstructable in a normal game

>>174692349
Oh yeah, defense stations are fucking stupid
"haha I have snared their fleet in a hyperlane chokepoint oh whoops my station died a day later"

>>174691017
Explain please!

>>174692427
>tumbrl the post

>>174692523
All asari have psychic powers by default. Materialist makes it harder to get psychic powers than spiritualist.

>>174692514
Because /civ4xg/ doesn't mind people with different opinions.
Only /gsg/ goes completely nuts when facing what they believe to be muslim, and then start accusing them of being tumblr.

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>>174692427
>racism, their biggotry, and their unfunny, forced memes

Aren't you the spider-forcing guy though?

If I reduce robutt build time in buildable pops/00_robot_pops.txt will that also apply to synthetic ascension?
Also any other sicknasty 1337 hacks i can do to make the game less fucking annoying?

>>174690109
what a faggot UI

>>174692585
Huh, I thought asari were scientists? Am I being retarded now?

>>174692595

The fact that you're shoehorning someone with a different opinion as "/gsg/" is proof enough that you "don't mind people with different opinions".

You could just report the post for whatever reason, ignore it, hide it, move on, scroll past, whatever. It's not like they're gonna respond to what you say anyway.

>>174692605
Sure, accuse me of being whatever boogeyman you're scared of.
You're only proving me right by getting butthurt.

>>174692640
You know of Mass Effect and Asari but have never heard of biotics?

>>174692640
Asari have natural biotics (he's comparing this to psychic powers like mind control), whereas other species in Mass Effect require implants to channel their latent biotic powers. Asari can do it from birth.

They are a spiritual race, however, not materialist in the slightest. Gods and psionic powers should translate to them being spiritualists.

>>174692649
Indeed I don't mind them. Thanks for agreeing with me.

>>174692650
>Sure, accuse me of being whatever boogeyman you're scared of.

That's literally projecting what you said in your previous post about /gsg/... You are a professional hypocrite, lad.

>>174692640
Asari are the more spiritual race. Salarians are the ones who deal a lot with science and stuff.

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>A trillion Asari and Quarian race mods for Stellaris
>No recent and working ones for Turians

>forgot to do the ship prefix in the race creator

FUCKING HELL

They need to leave that shit empty in the race creator so you can come back to it after you've made the empire name

I've never tried the genemod ascension
If I wanna mod my entire species, do I have to do it to each pop manually or is there a way to convert them all at once like with synths?

>>174692716
>ad hominem
You automatically lost, pal. Sucks to be you.

>>174692740
Maybe you should take one of the turian mods and calibrate it so it works.

>>174692640
yes

>>174692769
>fallacy fallacy
Looks like it was actually you who lost
psssh. nothin personnel
>>174692781
That's really reaching, anon

>>174692769
Now I genuinely feel bad for you...

>>174692762
Fuck, that reminds me that I might have two empires that I didn't give a proper prefix to.

Fucking Paradox.

>>174692403
Just use a mod that buffs the wonders. There's no purpose in building any of them in vanilla.

What if dyson sphere output depended on type of star it was constructed around as did ring world size?

>>174693062
4 sections of size 25 aren't worth it, how much fucking bigger are you gonna make those variable size ringworlds to make them viable?

>>174690431
If they weren't before then Andromeda certainly cemented it

>"hive mind rulers are immortal"
>governor dies
>lose 80 naval capacity bonus
>suddenly war because muh naval capacity
fuck off, what the hell

>>174691979
They're also presented as hilariously incompetent despite all these amazing natural strengths as 90% of them spend 500+ years acting like dumb space sluts.
Species that have only been galactic players for less than a century accomplished more in that time than the asari did in a millennia.

At least that's what I got from them, knowing bioware this wasn't the intentional presentation though.

>>174692350
Krogan knew what they were doing by rebelling and were deliberately attacking the entire galactic community, humans didn't know shit about the council or anything and weren't the aggressor, and they hardly won, they managed to, with their entire military might, barely push out a very small fraction of a single races military. The entire conflict started because humans didn't know shit about galactic law and once the council actually got involved they told the turians to fuck off being enormous dicks for ignoring first contact procedure and actually explained to humans why opening new relays was a real bad idea and gave them the standard new council member treatment.

It's one of the few sensible things in the setting.

>>174693248
There's a billion different bonuses that refer to rulers and leaders, how have you still not learned the difference?

>>174693251
Bioware is pretty good at contradicting themselves between the lore and the gameplay.
>"Krogans are unstoppable in battle"
>lol you can punch them around, they aren't any sturdier than other fags

>>174693251
Nah it was fully intentional, you meet a couple of asari who see just how retarded their entire culture is and it seriously infuriates them how the rest of their leaders don't see it as a problem.

>>174693341
Post traumatic stress from ME1 nuthin personnel speed walking Krogans.

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>>174693178
>The Blue sexy females who used to poledancing ended being Tumblr
Is anything modern bioware can touch without turning it into shit?

>>174693296
the ruler should be fucking immortal, it died at age 65 and left me with whatever new ruler that didn't have a +80 bonus to naval capacity

>>174693371
Just fling them around with your biotic squad you stupid shit

>>174693248

Ruler is the faction leader.
Leaders are scientists, generals, etc.

>>174693390
You're a fucking idiot

>>174691992

Fucking 10/10

>>174693402
Biotics are witchcraft.

>>174693375
Almost none of the original developers still work for them, it's bioware in name only

>>174693494
Exactly, and witchcraft is more often than not the most powerful thing in an RPG

>>174692427

Kys leftist faggot

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Is this a bug or are these guys really supposed to take a fucking million years to grow a pop

>>174693390
>>174693248
The ruler of the empire itself is immortal. The individual leaders are just uplifted drones with more autonomy since even the great fucking hivemind can't keep track of everything at once.


Assuming the actual ruler did die, then it was a bug, but the more likely problem is you're just retarded.

>>174693546
Considering the fact you have made that much progress already, I highly doubt it has been that low forever
Your food surplus should make it like +1.1 or something, maybe it's just a display bug?

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>follow the Cultist leader into the system
>jump into the one where she is supposed to be hidden
>big fuck off screen comes up boasting about how she will destroy my fleet and then go to Earth to cleanse it from Unbelievers
>close the coms
>see this

Fucking retarded religiousfags ..
Shoot yourself next time and save me the trouble of chasing you around the galaxy.

>>174690356

>Anzu
>Male

Got me

>>174693660
Why the fuck did you wait that long to take them out

>>174693660
>11 destroyers & 189 corvettes
>571 firepower

How the fuck is this even possible?

So, I can build cruisers now, should I scrap all corvettes and destroyers? Also, what is the best set up to destroy a spaceport?

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>>174693296
>>174693407
>>174693457
Empire Wide Fleet Increases are Governor-only traits

Do you think it might be preferable if in Stellaris there were techs that allowed for multiple pops to persist on a single tile of a planet? Basically "building taller" techs so if you saw fit, you could focus primarily on packing your planets with more and more pops as an alternative to spreading your species out?

Presumably your homeworld could have an inate bonus to this so even without focus you can still squeeze in 2 pops/tile, or possibly make it tied to habitability so there's a reason to bother with that in end game empires with obscene amounts of technology?

Just brainstorming, would love to get your opinions.

>>174693665
anzu is a trap

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>>174693609
They have been growing that pop for ages,

I have so many because that planet is cool and most immigrated
The stupid penguins are having similar problems

>>174693294
yeah and then within 20 years the Humans were the ascendant dominant race

and actually no, the council intervened just as both sides were about to fully escalate (600 lost at Shanxi is not "barely taking it back" the Humans still had 5 other fleets fucking about somewhere else)

It's actually fucking retarded because the Humans had been building huge fucking fleets for 50 years before even coming into contact with aliens.

>>174693724
Do you have sight difficulties anon?

>>174693724
how is being blind working out for you?

>>174693724
Are you blind ?
571 is the enemy, mine has 13K.

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>>174693779
>>174693782
lol dunno

>>174693736
governor is planet guy

ruler is empire guy

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>so cute want to cuddle it
>militant isolationists
fuggg

>>174693736
You're so fucking stupid, did you even read the posts you quoted?

>>174693609
it's because the game is retarded and divides food between all the alien pops, so if you have more than like 3 types of alien in your empire you can kiss goodbye to actually growing pops

>>174693871
>tsundere starfish
>b-baka it's not like we want a research agreement

>>174693871
*angry starfish noises*

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>>174693871
aw shit

>>174693871
Makes sense, they want other races to stop their unintentional and/or nonconsensual cuddling.

Overall utopia is much more playable than say, 1.3
Mid game doesnt drag as much because "end game" starts around 3350 or so.
The problem is end game is still a bit too easy compared to early game, relative to difficulty settings. Also unity doesnt have any end game use
There just needs to be more balance for peaceful vs conquering playstyle. Diplomacy traditions need to be buffed about 3 times as hard so that it isnt useless as fuck, and they need to make factions better.
There also needs to be a mechanic to stop blobbing really fast.

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>>174693839
>>174693919
Hivemind is still bugged, ruler isn't immortal
It seems like every single immortal trait is simply not there, or just doesn't work

>>174693983
How about synthetic ascended fags, do they die?

>>174693983
>LEADER
>LEADER
>LEADER
NOT
>RULER

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>Mars returns to fold
>on the same day that Sirius 4, 13 slot planet is terraformed into Continental world

Ha, suck on that xenos.

>>174693956
>Fluffy moths vs starfish
Cutest bloodshed in space

>>174693871
>cute starfish
>fanatical purifiers
every time

>>174694041
I don't get it
Is the joke that you'll never ever colonize these undersize planets?

>>174693972
>There just needs to be more balance for peaceful vs conquering playstyle

liberate>vassalize>integrate>>>GIANTIC fast expanding blob

>>174693983

LEADER IS NOT RULER. RULER IS THE PERSON WHO LEADS YOUR ENTIRE CIVILIZATION. THE KING. QUEEN. EMPEROR. NOT THE FUCKING SCIENTISTS, ADMIRALS, GENERALS, GOVERNORS.

LEARN TO READ.

>>174694021
if you get humiliated by a FE yes

desu Fallen Empires are such dicks, making you sign a peace treaty then killing you for literally no reason.

>>174693956
>you're a stain upon the universe :3
They would be a lot more threatening if they didn't look like nyoron~

>>174694084
Why would that be faster than just straight conquering the planets and skipping the middle steps?

>>174693972
Blobbing could partly be solved by cutting fleet caps and instituting command caps for admirals. A big cause of blobbing is the sheer time investment in creating a full powered fleet so the optimal play is blobbing to kill the enemy fleet and hope yours survives. If total fleet size was smaller and split into numbers of task forces that were quick to reinforce wars would be a lot more dynamic and blobbing would largely vanish.

>>174694078
With Banks food mechanics there is literally no reason why you shouldn't grab every planet you can.

>>174694036
>>174694085
>Illbrearer
>>174693736
>>174693983

Or are you gonna tell me that "Ruler" is just a position and that Leaders that are appointed as "Ruler" aren't immortal in a hivemind?

>>174694148
tech costs brah

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what an amazing st- zzzzzzzzzzz

>>174694126
not saying it's faster

it's just not that much slower that it needs any reballancing

>>174694036
>>174694085
Same thing.

>>174694184
Hyperlanes only?

>>174694164
>Leaders that are appointed as "Ruler"
Hiveminds have elections now?

>>174694164
The ruler position in hiveminds does not get replaced. If someone other than your starting one was appointed then something was wrong with your game from the start.

>>174694184

Borders for hyperlane species should move along the hyperlanes instead of circles around planets

>>174694164
Holy shit I refuse to believe someone is this persistently retarded. Fuck off and go bait reddit or something.

>>174694164
>Leaders that are appointed as "Ruler" aren't immortal in a hivemind?
leaders don't get appointed as ruler in hivemind because your ruler never dies from the start you nigger

>>174694224

Yessir.

Overall utopia is much more playable than say, 1.3
Mid game doesnt drag as much because "end game" starts around 3350 or so.
The problem is end game is still a bit too easy compared to early game, relative to difficulty settings. Also unity doesnt have any end game use
There just needs to be more balance for peaceful vs conquering playstyle. Diplomacy traditions need to be buffed about 3 times as hard so that it isnt useless as fuck, and they need to make factions better.
There also needs to be a mechanic to stop blobbing really fast.

>>174694138
blobbing means teritorial expansion, what you're reffering to is deathstacking fleets

Overall utopia is much more playable than say, 1.3
Mid game doesnt drag as much because "end game" starts around 3350 or so.
The problem is end game is still a bit too easy compared to early game, relative to difficulty settings. Also unity doesnt have any end game use
There just needs to be more balance for peaceful vs conquering playstyle. Diplomacy traditions need to be buffed about 3 times as hard so that it isnt useless as fuck, and they need to make factions better.
There also needs to be a mechanic to stop blobbing really fast.

Overall utopia is much more playable than say, 1.3
Mid game doesnt drag as much because "end game" starts around 3350 or so.
The problem is end game is still a bit too easy compared to early game, relative to difficulty settings. Also unity doesnt have any end game use
There just needs to be more balance for peaceful vs conquering playstyle. Diplomacy traditions need to be buffed about 3 times as hard so that it isnt useless as fuck, and they need to make factions better.
There also needs to be a mechanic to stop blobbing really fast.

>>174693738
Yes.

>>174694138
Haha holy shit, a guy who has never played a Paradox game before trying to infer what "blobbing" is by context
You're cute, anon

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How bad is design? What parts should I focus on? Should I stick with Corvettes and Destroyers for now?

I need to blow up a xenophobic empire up and their shitty laser space ports

>>174693929
Well they grow 3 times as slowly but you get 3 when they are done

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the Silk Legion had a good run

>>174694451
I'm growing pops on 10 different planets and 30 habitats without ever going below +1/month
But enjoy your multiculturalism

>>174694451
yeah but that means in the meantime you're missing out on the resource acquisition, and not every xeno is as useful as another, or your own pop.

When it gets so slow as to be +0.1 a month, it's fucked.

Quick tell me how to make a 4x game that's interesting and good.

>>174692765
it's planet wide and you can select all the planets with the species living on it.

>>174694442

Change so you have Kinetic Ls and Plasma Ms.

>>174694513
Impossible.

>>174694495
I'm convinced this is the swedes at it again trying to make it so you pretty much have to have immigration if you want decent numbers of pops

>>174694513
fan service

>>174694442
>broadside
>guns arent arranged in such a way to allow broadsides
Reeeeeeeeeeeee

>>174694575
I don't have plasma yet, only lasers, still worth it?

>>174694442

>No kinetic artillery
>No plasma
>No flak

it sucks

>>174694585
That's the opposite of what my post said you illiterate nigger

>>174694634
no, you fuck, I'm agreeing with you that multiculti xenocuk paradise is shit.

>>174694608

Just load up on kinetic artillery then until you can include plasma.

At present Kinetic arty + plasma (also flak arty later in game) is the best weapon combo in the game.

>>174694513
>interesting and good
>4x
>for a large playerbase
Pick 2

>>174694667
Then why did you say you have to have immigration to get a decent amount of pops
What the fuck

>>174694483
had once a start in perfect location to observe 2 AI's being cockblocked by FE isolationist whenever they tried any expansion

they owned only 1 planet each(with no outposts)until I was powerfull enough to deal with FE

was prety fun to wach desu

>>174694623
When am I suppose to get all that shit, its still 2242

>>174694608
Different anon but not really. Plasmas are OP because their M size version has a ridiculous 80% armour penetration, lasers only have 30% which doesn't make up for their malus against shields. Just stick to a full M slot cruiser with the best weapon you have until then, aim for endgame cruisers having 1 L kinetic artillery and the rest M plasma. The artillery strips shields from long range and unlike other anti shield weapons KEEPS them down, plasma burns through hull.

>>174694303
Tech costs were supposed to stop the blobbing, but there's not really any hard benefit to stuff like that.

Personally I think your given government shouldnt have a core system limit but an actual optimal system capacity, which is improved with governing technology and eventually removed by the later half of the mid game.

The capacity each colony uses would depend on its distance and maybe a sort of centraliization policy so you could have varying levels of central control in your nation and trade ethics divergence for more colonies outright, but with potential backlash when you centralize later. Personally I find sectors are wholly poorly realized.

>>174694442
I'd swap out the front for the large weapon slot but otherwise it'll work for now.

>>174694667
>>174694634
>>174694634
>>174694585
Its funny how swedish company made a game where being multiculti xeno cuck pacifist is one of the hardest suboptimal and difficult ways to retain control over your empire...

>>174694670
Why does everyone love plasma when gauss is superior

>>174694792
Because you nuke the shields in 0.1 seconds and then need to get through 50000000 points of armor

>>174694708
I'm saying that if you want to play a xenocuck who doesn't immediately deport conquered races you have to sign immigration treaties because they grow so slowly

>>174694792
Enjoy your gauss doing only 25% of its listed damage once you're hitting hull on a fallen empire anon.

>>174694849
Oh okay I get it now. So what you meant to say is "if you play xenophile with immigration, you need to be xenophile and allow immigration"
Thanks for the information fuckwit

>>174694780

>Swedish company

Fuck it all makes sense now.

>first game play as humans
>"mankind originated in Africa"
>picture of female with dark skin
>almost all of my leaders that spawn are women or people with dark skin tones

Sweden needs to be nuked.

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>>174694738
gonna see how long I can play this out until I get destroyed or I get bored. There are a few planets I can colonise all within my borders but if I step out I anger the starfish

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>>174694849
>>174694780
>>174694667
>>174694605

>>174694921
how dense are you
if you conquer a planet, it has xenos on, if you get rid of them, everyone hates you, if you don't get rid of them, enjoy low growth for rest of game.

truly Sweden's greatest work

>>174694242
>border friction with an empire on another galactic arm you need to travel through a xenophobe FE to reach or go all the way around the galaxy to reach
Thanks Paradox.

>>174694996
ebin meme xd upvoted

>>174694935
>almost all of my leaders that spawn are women or people with dark skin tones
Nope there is exactly 2 sexes and five phenotypes.

>>174695018
If anything, Paradox is telling us that you should enslave everyone cause it's the easiest

>>174694940
you just need to start your expansion farther away from FE borders

probably about 1,5xdistance of your homeworld from their border

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>>174694935
woah...epic post my fellow aryan...

>>174695063

But way more women were spawning than men, and the majority of the men that spawned were not white

>>174695064
this
>enslave
>nerve stapled
easiest way to conquer xenos

>>174695103
Confirmation bias
>>174695078
Sounds like he should just restart

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>>174695018

>>174695132
Can you nerve staple people in Stellaris?

>>174695103
>>174695103
>majority of the men that spawned were not white
Well maybe because there is one white phenotype and four nonwhite ?

Math isn't your strong side is it ?

>>174695132
>>174695064
no, fanatical purifier is the only way to play this game.

>>174695151
Biological ascension path lets you do it.

>>174695173

SWEDEN YES

>>174695143
10/10.

>>174695175
Please tell me his nose is photoshopped.

>>174695184
So getting Utopia might rekindle my interest in Stellaris? I haven't played it since they removed embassies.

>>174695063
>>174694935
>not having mod for separate phenotypes and genders

lmao@urlife

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>>174695078
Yeah it's weird, I colonised a planet that was closer to them than they one that triggered the war.

Pic related, colonised Fedeema no problem, went a put a outpost on Soyun and Starfish got mad. Have now found Bashpat and will try that and see if they get pissed.

>>174695141
I might, but difficult situations can make for an interesting game

>>174695143
>you're mad because we can play the game
Have fun with your federation victory and diplomacy tradition tree

>>174695175
What the fuck happened to that guys jaw. It's almost a smooth flat line from his neck to his mouth, he has a more prominent jawline on his adams apple what the fuck.

So when does this get renamed to Stellaris General?

>>174695175
Jesus, every parent should slap it into their children not to be mouthbreathers
We all know what being ugly is like, there's no need to completely destroy your jawline on top of that

>>174695239
>full ebin purge meme or federation are the only ways to play the game
???

>>174695141
>not taking a challange

YOU ARE WEAK

>>174695224
It probably won't, its still mostly the same game.

>>174695103
50% females, 50% males
20% whites, 20% slavs, 20 asians, 20 arabs. 20 blacks
Obviously it only works with a great number of rulers, so you probably got a bad hand.
Complaining about it saying "computers are racist" tier

>>174695103
Theres literally a mod in the OP designed to keep you happy.

>>174695196
>one of five phenotypes is white
>phenotypes are random when it comes to characters in game
>hurr durr why aren't majority of my aren't white
>conspiracy !!1111
>/pol/ was right !!!! those damn sjw's !!!

Motherfucker do you even math ?

>>174695319
I just hope the Stellaris hype will die soon so that we can resume discussions about RTSes or whatever civ builder came out recently.

>>174695396
>>hurr durr why aren't majority of my aren't white
majority of my characters aren't white *

>>174694775
The only mechanic that can stop blobbing is one that doesnt exist yet.
Unity can be of use besides blue mana. Add another use called FEALTY. Its a new system that goes something like this:
>every leader and sector has a fealty score that you build with unity points
>every planet must have a governor, or else you have to give it to a sector
>the more leaders/sectors/larger sectors you have the lower the default fealty
>low fealty gives a chance for independent revolt

>>174695446
I just want it to die down so all the political retards will fuck off back to /gsg/ or /v/

>>174695446
When ES2 launches stellaris will take a bit of a back seat.

>>174695470
this sounds absolutly awful

>>174695446
>>174695505
Report and ignore.

>>174695505
Yeah, that too.
It's fun to talk about how we'll turn the ayys into burgers, but then there's always a retard to start bringing races into this.

>>174695529
I thought ES2 was already out?

>>174695553
Early access. The official launch is in a few weeks.

>>174695553
ES2 is in early access, they've announced the full release date and update for May 19th

>>174695573
STOP RESPONDING TO SHITPOSTERS RETARD ANON.
Report and ignore you dense cunt.

>>174695584
>>174695609
Oh, so it's soon!
I'm curious about it, I have really bad memories of ES.

>>174695470
Not really feeling that one.

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting

Won first game in Stellaris lads
Felt kinda pointless

>>174695396
Yeah was he expecting them to not allow non-white men to be human leaders in a sci-fi game? you are delusional if you think it's less of a political statement than the current system.

>>174695690
see
>>174695656

>>174695609
Does anyone here have the early access? Is it any good?

>>174695609
Full release? Isn't it at like 0.5 or something?

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>Forced to turn people into paste as a hivemind
Shit
Why can't I just displace them or something, I don't want everyone to lose their shit because i'm forced into genocide.

>>174695778
They're adding a fanatic purifier ethos for hiveminds in 1.6 so they'll probably adjust regular hiveminds to not kill purge on conquest.

>>174695726
Yes it's good.
It does things stellaris tried to do but does them well.

feels so comfy to play tall f.militarist isolationist and shatter all those blobs into small tributaries

>>174695764
They've been following along this roadmap to my knowledge, last big update was Riftborn.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/392110/discussions/0/282992562608225403/
I'm actually most excited to see if the music gets finished, apparently all of the songs in the soundtrack right now are only partially complete.

>>174695841
like?

>>174695865
yeah tall with tributaries is fun.
you get both research/unity from staying small and energy/minerals from your tributes.

>come in here expecting nice talkies about games
>it turns into full spergism
mistakes have been made

>>174695865
>>174695976
What's your other ethos besides militarist? Sounds like a fun idea for a game

>>174695807
>>174695871

>racism is bad unless its against white people then it's progressive and cool

>Have 1,9k fleet
>Enemy has 2,1k fleet
>pretty equivalent fleet setup
>have suitable weapon type for the race I'm fighting against while he has shit weapon type
>lose my entire fleet while he retains 1,5k

Love this meme

>>174696028
materialist, mostly for rp factor of purely militarist efficient oligarchy

>>174695992
/pol/ is leaking hard today.
Report and ignore.

>>174696065

Struggling to find the racism against whites

Whites are not a majority on the planet, and so is represented in game. Are you stupid, or something?

>>174695950
An actually relevant political system with different government types that are actually different.

Unique bonuses based on the party in power with ways to manipulate elections.

Populations with different planetary preferences and bonuses.

System level management and not pop tile micromanagement.

It's just a solid game overall.

>>174695647
>>174695539
Wanna explain?
Whats missing in stellaris is a mechanic for empires to break up internally.
What is bad about it? It does 3 things:
>provides a use for unity beyond blue mana, isnt useless lategame
>slows down traditions more if you expand
>introduces a way for large empires to break up or stop expanding

what is the best starting weapon in Stellaris?
I had good success with Kinetics and nearly zero success with Missiles

>>174696326
Kinetics.

>>174696326
Always kinetics. Upgrade to plasma when you get a chance

>>174696353
>>174696364
what is it with people and the "Missiles are great against corvettes"-meme then. Missiles are slow as shit and don't do enough damage for that

>>174696326
Missiles are actually the best starting weapon, but that's all they are. Kinetics are "best" because they're the best end game and thanks to random cards you can't start missiles for quick torps before switching to kinetics because techs are a crapshoot.

>>174696439
Missiles only work early game. They waste too much time and damage potential in flight to work against a late game death blob.

How do I enable mods on my pirated version? They show up in the launcher and they look like they're selected, but they don't work (even the checksum stays the same)

>>174696439
At the absolute earliest game they're best because stacks are too small for overkill to matter, PD isn't in play yet and everyone is using the most evasive ship but by the time you start being able to wage proper war people have bigger fleets and PDs.

Any mods for playing a dimensional horror or other beasts of the universe? I just want a mindless slaughter across the galaxy

>>174696081
> Suitable weapon
> Get #rekt
Then it obviously wasn't suitable, anon.

>>174696678

He might have went against destroyers. Corvettes seem to only target destroyers before other corvettes, so they end up getting shredded by the enemy corvettes. Makes early game war very dependent on having destroyers of your own.

> Majority of ants are worker drones
> therefore the elected queen should be a worker drone
Banning eugenics research was a mistake.

>>174696081
I'm assuming you're still in the corvette spam stage of the game with those fleet powers, battles are really unpredictable at that point. But with how hard you got destroyed it sounds like your fleet setup wasn't that optimal either.

>>174696518
are you getting them from skymods? They have very simple instructions. Also make sure they are updated for the current version

>>174696890
I'm making my own mod and I've done several mods for CK2 so I should roughly know how it works
I did install a random mod from SKYMOD just to see if it works (it doesn't)
All the version stuff and so on is okay, I can enable the mod in the launcher but it simply doesn't seem to overwrite the vanilla file

If you have colony development speed +100%, is that the same as reducing the time by 50% or 66%? I'm not too good at math

What are some good mods? Preferably with no random or "le funni" shit.

>>174696981
if they random mod from skymod didn't work, and you put they files in the right folders, then maybe there's an issue with the game itself? Not sure what else it could be, seems weird.

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>>174696774
>"And that's why we should have a monarchy and there is nothing wrong with eugenics"
>"That's nice sweety, make sure to eat your tendies before they get cold"

>>174697112
Eugenics would certainly prevent abominations such as that chin

>>174696981
Is it:
documents->Paradox Interactive->Stellaris->workshop->content->281990->(mod folder in numbers)->modname.rar
documents->Paradox Interactive->mod->(same numbers as mod folder number but file)
?

>>174697162
It is indeed
Like I said though I'm actually trying to do a mod myself, and even the completely local one just in the /mod folder (created with the create mod button in the launcher) doesn't work

>>174697191
>white
He looks mixed or maybe jewish

>>174697162
>modname.rar
should be .zip. All skymods I've downloaded have been .zip

Maybe Stellaris has an issue with rar files?

Also I assume the mod file is in Paradox Interactive->Stellaris->mod
If so all folders seem correct

>>174697317
Yes, zip, and yes, stellaris->mod
I dunno, I have elver of stellaris on /mod only and it works too, so maybe like that anon says >>174697102

>>174693660
>571 firepower
I have more than that by fucking 2220

>>174697412
Same anon, but yeah if you've changed a lot of stuff since you installed it, patches, updates etc. you may want to just try a fresh install, it's a pain but not sure what else to suggest

What ethos/traits are good for my first game, and what kind of basic strategy goes along with them?

>>174697412
>>174697317
Just as a test case, I'm trying to make a mod removing the mechanical trait from robots
My mod file is
name="Robutts"
path="mod/robutts"
tags={
"Balance"
}
supported_version="1.5.1"
And in the file
Documents\Paradox Interactive\Stellaris\mod\robutts\common\buildable_pops\00_robot_pops.txt I removed all the trait_mechanical lines (file was copied from the Stellaris install folder)
Mod shows up in the launcher but it doesn't work, like I said even the checksum stays the same

>>174697560

Why even bother with that, just remove the mechanical trait line from the game file instead. Game is retarded enough when it comes to replacing stuff that already exists with a mod, no point making it any harder.

>>174697560
weird that it's recognising that the mod is installed but not actually using the file. It's a simple change so maybe just do what >>174697760 said, still I'd like to find out what the problem is as that stuff bugs me

>>174696302
I just think adding another abstract resource is superfluous. Leaders imo don't even make sense much as is.

Like, something I sort of think is that Leader "generation" should be more automated, where leaders are created when relevant, as in:
Each Science Field has a de facto leader who gives benefits to everything relevant to them. They all have a specialty which influences tech pop ups (so a physics leader who specializes in Energy Field will generate more research in said field.)
Research ships and the like are based on a capacity sort of ordeal. They'd be assigned a captain when they're launched.
Planets would start with a Colonial Expedition Leader and then a Planetary (Leader), whose title is dependent on your own governing style. Planets would have their own internal elections periodically (presumably starting on the second normal election tick after they reach 5 pops) with leaders generated based on the factions who are relevant on the planet (even if you have a xenophobe faction, if no pops on the planet are Xenophobes they will have no sway on elections.)
Sectors would work the same way, so it'd be like a normal 3 tiered Federal/Provincial(or State)/Municipal system.
Factions would also, imo, need to be multifaceted so you could have multiple parties that are Xenophobic in some respect but also have a secondary interests, and Pop ethics should probably be expanded to either a sliding scale between all of the main ethics (and then your factions could have their own electability modifiers and such) or just back to how it used to be. I also think non-immigrant minorities that aren't treated as optimally would found their own racial specific parties that would promote the ethics and interests of that given race, so that unfriendly neighbor you ate's pops would all bloc up in a single faction instead of fragmenting into all of the existing ones.

Utopia has made great strides in improving the ingame but there's a LOT of work that needs to be done.

>>174697760
Experience from EU3 and CK2, I tend to change a lot of shit that I don't like over time and it's a pain to do it all over again after an update
Incidentally, I'm using the CODEX 1.5.1 version but when I try to install the hotfix (also CODEX) it gives me some shit about some gfx files having the wrong MD5 hash

>>174697884

That's why I buy games, sounds like a right pain in the ass for something so simple.

>>174697560
Should the "path=" not point to the content folder?

MODS IN MY FUCKING MOUTH COME ON

>>174697964
Naw, the file was created like that and I checked my CK2 mod as well to double-check it
The game should be able to recognize that the content folder is being changed automatically

>>174697964

Nope. Robutts is the content folder; the whole folder is paradox\stellaris\mod\robutts (op's mod)

Anyone have some tips for hard and/or insane difficulty? It seems that no matter what I try, I always lag behind and end up being fucking in asshole by xenos.

>>174697940
Yeah I normally buy games as well since it's less of a hassle and Steam games are cheap as shit
I've been burned by Paradox's dumbing down and jewery before though, just trying to ascertain whether Stellaris is actually playable in the endgame now

>>174696157
>implying a non-white majority Earth will ever make it into Space
>Implying if it does, it won't be Asians

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Is there a way to unsettle a planet?
I got rid of a shitty fallen empire AI and hes colonized these 16 pop planets and they're all awful.

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umm excuse me starfish what are you doing

>>174697837
While id like to see an overhaul thats not gonna happen

>>174698431
Not without mods.

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How do I play an Aurora game while controlling several nations and keep it going past year 1, or hell, past the first day?

>>174698431
>16 pop planets
>with FE industry buildings
>awful

???

>>174698431
purge everyone, but if you can't purge then no

>>174698498
Only their capital has the special FE buildings.

>>174698454
was you at war recently?

ai's avoid cancelling ship orders, so transporters will get to your planet, realize war is over maybe hang out for a while and then turn back

>>174698652
Should've gassed them all.

>>174698498
They were normal planets that the AI colonized, they had shit all on them.
I took the two capital buildings with the good stuff earlier.

>>174698673
A while ago yeah >>174695228
but they just popped up again then

>>174698673
*were

>>174697191
>>>/gsg/

>>174690901
That face is more masculine than my own. What the fuck is going on in Bioware?

>>174698830
Seems normal for bioware

>>174698830
liberals

>>174698830
Due to budget restriction, all employees have been locked in a closet.

>>174698830

She looks better in the release version. That whole cutscene is a total mess, though. God knows what made them choose that to showcase the character.

>>174698875
You didn't actually buy Andromeda did you?

>>174698945
There's always the few.

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>>174698476
>dat pic
Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggg

>>174690948
They're the most advanced and most powerful because they have been illegally hiding prothean tech from the entire galaxy. Anyways, Humans are the real mary sue race in the ME universe.

>join intergalactic politics
>jump ahead of literally every other race and get council seat, representing one of the biggest power grabs ever
>reapers become so interested in them they start making a human reaper hybrid, something not seen with literally any other reaper model
>reapers invade earth first because they're terrified of what the hoomans can do
>Every species in the galaxy wants to sex them.

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>>174698875
Actually shes worse.

Do frontier post borders grow over time?

>>174699012
From Steve's colonial wars campaign. Showing off C#'s windows resizing.

>>174699037
No, only with + border range effects
Your border growth doesn't come from colonies magically growing them, it comes from pops

>>174699037
No.

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>>174698945
>>174698989

>Civ ^
>released in october
>Still no way to make AI only match without downloading a mod

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>>174699081
>>174699076

ok, weird. This one here just grew a little bit to the left. I already had the +20 border range tech.

>>174699021
>>jump ahead of literally every other race and get council seat, representing one of the biggest power grabs ever
desu, it's explained in game that they tried *really* hard to do that, and that we also had a sizable space empire and population, while Volus, Elcorr and others aren't much next to the the Alliance.