/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

spiders still aren't strategy

>>174643562
YOU FUCKING SPIDER CUNT

recomend spacial gaem

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>>174643562
Hey guys was going to suggest these changes to the OP

What do you think?

The spider guy beat me to it

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Mysteries of the Universe edition

This thread is for all strategy games that do not have their own thread, focusing on 4X (eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, eXterminate).
tags: /cbg/ /rtsg/ /wgg/

>Stellaris
- Future FAQ Pastebin goes here
- WIP Ship Design Guide for 1.5.1 by Anon https://pastebin.com/2QWUPKSh
- Wiki http://www.stellariswiki.com/Stellaris_Wiki
- (Outdated?) Mod archive https://mega.nz/#F!hpBCSbCC!vZNs1Qhip_UJQPSSdoZjUg
- (Outdated?) Mod recommendations http://pastebin.com/qsTFCyvh

>Endless Legend
- Manual http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/289130/manuals/User'sManual.pdf?t=1413562467
- Wiki http://endlesslegendwiki.com/Endless_Legend_Wiki

>Civilization Resources
- Fix for Civ IV BTS XML errors: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ljdms8ygix2btcs/AACC_IGIy7zAkomwA6S4DJp3a?dl=0
- Civilization Analyst (Civ VI, Civ V, BE) http://well-of-souls.com/civ/index.html
- District Cheat Sheet https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/civ6.gamepedia.com/2/29/District_Cheat_Sheet.png?version=07510f0f43d7188e00e7046c90360dba
- CIVILOPEDIA Online (Civ V) http://www.dndjunkie.com/civilopedia/
- Civ V drafter http://georgeskleres.com/civ5/
- Civ V Giant Multiplayer Robot - http://www.multiplayerrobot.co
- Civ V mod workshop http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse?appid=8930
- Civ V mods http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=393
- More mods http://pastebin.com/5ANRmRur

>Alpha Centauri (SMAC & SMAX)
- Essential improvements http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Sid_Meier's_Alpha_Centauri#Essential_improvements
- Official short stories https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cn11q7nqa00te/Alpha_Centauri

Last thread : >>174602464

>>174643752
Aurora 4X

>>174643562
>everyone hates spider threads
>spider OP waited until page 10
>no one else made a new thread
I think we deserve this.

The time it takes to gene-mod a species is determined by your Society research, right?

Would it be advisable to build a habitat and fill it with research buildings to make gene-modding, and research in general, go faster?

You don't need to be complaining about spider bro if you can't be fucked to make a thread

swear ya'll would have us falling off the 10th page

>>174643730
Nothing can be as bad as that retard.

>>174643851
I was going to but I barely opened the thread when spider-anon did it >>174643784

>>174643741
Thanks anon

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>>174643864
To a point. You get diminishing returns the more you build, but the increase in tech price also diminishes.

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>>174643784
>spider guy
At least call me Spider Man.

And if nobody minds your OP, I'll use it next thread.

>>174643851
Thank you for saying it how it is.
My secret dream is to trigger someone so badly that they'll consider it their sacred duty to keep the thread up, while having the impression they're helping. And also to convert people to the spider faith.

>>174643645

The frigates are a nice addition and both carrier type ships are cool

not to mention the playable leviathans that got added in update 5

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Am I fucked?

>>174644123
No because AI rebellion is the easiest crisis.

>>174644109
How are those, anyways? It sounds like a dumb gimmick though I always wanted to raise a fleet of Ether Drakes.

>>174644217
Unless he was going for that 75% of 200+ population is synths achievement

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>>174644048
Actually I took a second look at that chart and it's misleading. The last two data points have the same science output but one has 5 extra 20-tile planets.

>>174644123
Depends on how many synths your empire has.

>>174644248

I have no fucking idea , you need to build them i think but only after having defeated the original

I haven't make it to the points were leviathans are kill able yet , the mod got updated for pirates just a few day ago

If 4chan would be in some game, it would be a fallen empire in stellaris.

>>174644521
Which type though?

>Start a game with 3 friends
>Clustered player start turned on
>Right after game starts, pirates, hijacked ships, and cultists all up in my shit
>Friend stationed north of me gets notifications that the cultists "invading him" are being destroyed despite never encountering him
>Start spreading south since no other option in a spiral 4arms
>Every planet has either pirates next with 4k+ or culitsts with 2-3k+

Good start.

>>174644521
>not bronze age roach civ on some toxic planet

>>174644704
The militarist that likes to fight with people to humiliate them.

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Seems the Unbidden needs reworking.

They've only taken over about 1/5 of the galaxy and have stacks of 4x 60K fleets on every route into their territory. A FE has awoken but is doing nothing to attack them, and the other empires are just going about business as normal.

I'm just going to cheat desu since it's practically impossible to defeat them.

>>174644737
Playing with friends is OP so having a rough start is nice. I did a MP session a while back but we didn't get very far, the guy who hosted had by far the worst start and yet ended up the most powerful of us because me and the other guy were close by and had to share systems, and we were basically complacent while he was fighting tooth and nail to expand from the start.

>playing space cat pirates
>fanatic militaristic/authoritarian
>conquer some mushroom guys
>recently conquered, they're very rebellious
>unrest causes one planet to shift towards militaristic, another to authoritarian
Wut

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r8 my ethics

>>174645060
>>174644737
>play MP to be buddy buddy with others

That's not how you MP

>>174644737
Oh also:
>Start has 3 planets in border
>One has no resources
>Rest have no energy resources
>Stars are so awkwardly scattered nearby that theres no smart use for frontiers.

If it wasn't for my Unityfagging this would have been salvageable.

Just experienced a sudden drop in mineral income. What happens? I wasn't attacked or demolished any building.

>>174645154
>not doing a comp stomp with your bros
If MP games were more common then I'd probably want to be more competitive about it, but it's hard organizing an MP session with more than 2 people which makes it rare.

>>174645132
cheat/er

>>174645130
It tells you why in the event pop up.

>>174645214
>tfw no bros to MP with

>>174645182

consumer goods ? maybe your props are reproducing fast and your mineral production stays the same

>>174645182
Have you done any edicts? Also did you move your fleet out of docking?

>>174645154
>>174645060

They're both playing megacorps so they're more advanced and have absurd amounts of money compared to me.

I shoulda went militarist like I originally intended.
Ended up doing pacifist xenophobe spiritualist hahaha kill me

>>174645363
Yeah never go pacifist in MP sessions. It's either gonna end with you fighting against the other human players or you all ganging up to take on the galaxy.

Do you usually try to fill all traditions? The perks don't seem that great when you have your ascension path + habitats, and diplomacy and supremacy seem quite useless given that I wanna conquer everyone

>>174644968
>Cheating in a single player game

WEW LAD
Seems you need to gitgud

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See this is why i'm an authoritarian militarist.
These poor xenos NEED my guidance.

>>174645182
Consumer goods and ship upkeep are the only two things that really detract from mineral income. If you changed your living standards for one of the species in your empire to a higher standard, it would increase the consumer goods penalty on your mineral income, similarly if your population is rapidly expanding it would also tax your mineral income more. And obviously you'd know if you were building lots of ships.

>>174644968
How do you fuck up that bad? Unbidden are super easy. Every time I encounter them I barely even have to fight because they get wiped out so fast.

>>174645540

Well thats okay.
We're probably going to restart anyways because one of the other two is new to the game and doesn't understand everything yet, and is experimenting with ethics.

What kind of military build would YOU guys recommend?
Not to say that I just want to straight up purge them or anything, but hey, the option to put them in their place if needed would be nice.

>>174645614
Not really sure what I could do to "git gud."

Their numbers are so overwhelming I have to have a ~100-150k fleet to defeat just one of their doomstacks.

>>174645716
They spawned the other side of the galaxy and the other empires wouldn't let me through until at last I got complete access recently.

>>174645591
>supremacy seem quite useless
Just by adopting it you get +20% border range, which is always nice. And if you want to conquer people then why wouldn't you take supremacy? It lowers warscore costs and fleet upkeep among other things. Diplomacy is pretty garbo though, mostly because diplomacy is a joke in Stellaris.

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>>174645943
No, you need a 70k fleet to defeat ALL of their doomstacks. One by one.

>>174646004
Oh god, I meant domination

>>174646074
A 70k fleet to defeat a 240k doomstack? Seems a bit ambitious even with the guardians of the galaxy perk.

>>174646004
>Just by adopting it you get +20% border range
That extra 20% is fucking insane. Just took it for the first time today and all you need to do is just colonise worlds next to another Empire and eat them alive while they bitch and moan at you.

>>174646091
Domination is definitely more niche, but it has some nice options in it. I especially like the one that boosts governor skill level and gives you 2 more leader slots.

>>174646294
Kinetic artillery and giga cannons with a corvette swarm to hold their fleet in place

>>>/n/1048091

this is relevant and autistic

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>>174646470

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Reminder: This is how you treat conquered Fallen Empires

>>174644315
Wasn't that done on purpose?

>>174646461
I have all of those along with focused arc emitters and it didn't do too much. Made a dent but the numbers were too overwhelming.

>>174646386
That's basically the main reason to go Domination, imo.

>>174644968
>jump doomstack to portal
>if anyone is in the way, declare war
>kill unbidden

if you don't have a big enough doomstack, you're not playing right. i had a 350k one the last time they showed up; i mopped the floor with them

>>174646598
no, it was done in haste. The last two points were supposed to show the effect of a few more planets once you had a whole bunch. I mostly did the chart for me, but I figured someone else here might be interested in seeing it.

>>174646573
>not keeping them as 'domestic' slaves

>>174644704
good question. Militant Isolationists is most likely option.

>>174646659
Seems a bit constrictive to spend time building up a huge deathstack every game just to defeat the unbidden desu especially since that requires extensive expansion.

>>174646573
>not Nerve Stapling them
>not integrating them into the Hivemind

>Hard AI gets plus FIFTY percent to evertyhing, including research
Why is this allowed?

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I just got Endless Space and I'm not very good, but good enough to enjoy with friends. I've played a custom automaton and blockaded myself in and waited for wonder victory, which worked out.

Now I want to try a more militaristic game, so I'm building a custom Hissho faction. Here's what I have:

>Big Fleets ++
>Deadly Weapons +++
>Masters of Destruction ++
>Isotope Fabrication +
>Advanced Machining +
>N-Way Fusion Plants +
>Mineral Rich +
>Headhunter - Pilot +
>Dust Archaeology +
>Dust Impaired --
>Sloppy Sawbones --
>Eternal War -

My goal is obviously to maximize my fleet power while also starting with an ok industry so I can actually make the fleets early. I'm looking for some recommendations on how to better this build though. I've played the first few turns a few times and it seems like I might need to drop something for optimistic +, any thoughts? Core mining + might also be something to switch out for, for the sake of building fleets earlier and also expansion.

>>174646906
Not really, I was playing tall that game. Once you have enough habitat spam up, which doesn't take any more than a few decades, you'll be gaining so much energy you'll need to trade it all to a merchant outpost before you start hitting the cap. I assembled that fleet in less than a decade.

>>174647112
"difficulty"

>>174646573
I live with mine just fine.My race is superior synth with real intelligence, not AI bullshit, best of both worlds.

>>174647235
Sounds like I should go for habitats more often

>>174647326
>FEs just deal double damage on insane
FUCK OFF PARADOG

>Perk for Habitats so you can get Mega-Engineering to appear on your research list
>Perk for Dyson Spheres
>Perk for Ringworlds
>Perk so you can afford them
>Game ends before you can build any of them

Who the fuck thought this was a good system

>>174646367
>tfw your border pushes theirs back and you get free mining and research outposts

awwww yis

>>174645182
Did your leader change?

They might have had a bonus to mineral production.

so guys

how do I early game in stellaris? I'm gonna start up a game tonight or tomorrow, once I get a chance and the in-laws are gone, but so far I've only played a few multiplayer matches with a buddy, and we always have to stop just after getting destroyers

>>174647440
>not having a habitat over very planetary body by 2350 at the latest
kys cuck baka desu senpai

>>174647490
It's fucking good isn't it? Reminds me of Civ 4 culture devouring.

So, is it evil to play as a species that believes they exist in a state of grace, and want to bring other species into that state with them, so they conquer and genetically modify entire species so that everyone in the empire has the same genetic traits that just so happen to make them content, productive slaves?

>Fighting much stronger enemy
>fly a single corv into his territory
>his entire fleet pulls back to kill it
>fly the corv out
>fleet turns back and starts attacking again
>keep flying in and out
I might not win this war, but neither will you, xeno scum

>>174647684
There is nothing wrong with slavery.

>>174647524

Hmm ? get the important early game tech ( influence and tier II mine/energy plants) then priorise weapons , shields and trusters/ftl

keeping a strong army means that enemy AI wil l think twice before declaring war , then you can choose when to war yourself

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>>174647440
>>174647539
>Not having habitats by 2257
casuals

>>174647686
Eventually they'll start to sue for peace and it will take you 100 influence each time to say no.

I did what you did.

>Cheap as shit S/S/S corvettes with maxed evasion.
>Cheap as shit L/M destroyers with maxed tracking.

I'm coming for you, galaxy.

>>174647684
Unless you're authortiarian and use caste system you won't be able to keep them content from an RP prespective unless you nerve staple them which isn't really keeping them content.

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>>174647773

>taking perks

I shiggy wiggy

>>174647375
Yeah, they're fucking broken. Once the Build Habitat -> Get Energy -> trade for Minerals -> Build Habitat feedback loop gets going, you'll only stop when you're tired of building and then colonizing them. I think that game I was pulling 1.5k energy a month before I decided it was time to anschluss a nearby FE. After I did the synth ascension, I was at nearly 3k a month. I finally just quit because trading the energy was getting tedious.

>>174647748
Think of it this way.

The species 'homo sapiens' believes that 'Humanity' exists in a state of grace.

'Humanity' has a collection of genetic traits, and so 'homo sapiens' wants to spread 'Humanity' to as many species as possible by genetically altering them to possess those same traits.

>>174647773
With the time it takes to build, you won't have one in 2257 either.

>spawn near the core
>Exit to Menu

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>Hope to god DoW3 isn't bad so I have something other than Stellaris to play
>Beta day comes
>its shit

>>174647959

is the core bad desu?

>>174647968
Oh, no.

What's that matter with it?

>>174648009
It just isn't comfy.
Too dense and hektik.

>>174647968
please be rusing or /v/eddit

>>174647968
I'm legit sorry to hear that, anon. It's never good to be let down by something you pinned hope to. Maybe there's another type of game you've never played before that you could get into.

>>174648109
>too dense
dude i love spawning in the core if you're xenophobe/fanatic xenophobe. fill expansion, grab interstellar dominion, the borders tech, and then the supremacy opener and you're taking over 10+ systems from a single colonize/outpost.

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>>174645132
>Zerschmetterlinge
Got me, you cheeky cunt

I wished the expansion planner screen showed which planets have the modifier that allows them to be terraformed into being livable. I know I got that event on something I surveyed but I can't remember which dead rock it is.

>>174648525
Either that or it could let you set notes on systems.

>>174648119
>>174648058
Not him, and I've not tried it, but nobody I know who liked DoW1 has anything good to say about it, but neither does anyone who played DoW2.

Seems they singularly managed to miss their target audience entirely.

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so, an interesting game.
War in heaven and unbidden happened at the exact same time on different sides of the map.
Now the galaxy is split into 3 camps and the wars are about to begin

>>174648525

do what people did before the expansion planner was a thing

write things in a notepad

>>174643562
what's pic related supposed to do?

>>174648625
why didn't they just make dawn of war 1 but bigger

why why why why

>>174648634

Vorlons vs Shadows vs Third Space

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>>174648634
>those notifications

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>>174648687
i am kill

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>>174647882
>Not finishing policy trees
ISHYGDDT

>>174648704
Got to appeal to the MOBA-fags and e-sports types, anon.

>>174648851
It just seems to show which bonuses districts receive from adjacent tiles.

Don't understand the point 2bh since it's pretty clearly explained in-game anyway.

>>174648634
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=808227508

No thanks required my main man

>>174648851

what the fuck am I looking at

>>174648704
RTS is dead the exception is Starcraft II but it's Esport bullshit and Nublizzard keeping it afloat, also south Koreans

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>conquer medieval earth
>start renaming the solar system with the human names
>try to remember the name of the Galilean moons
>realize Galileo was never born in this universe and i probably prevented his existence

>>174648058
>>174648119
I've only played 3 matches so take this with a grain of salt

UI and Controls are wanky, and the game is just Dawn of Eldar 3 as their units outrange and outgun, unless each ork player ive met is really stupid. Havocs don't have suppression anymore it seems and Assault marines don't work if they just kite so SM is limited until late game, haven't got to touch Orks yet.

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For the worm in wait thingy
does it get fucked as a whole if i "fail" one of the mini events ? I want to destroy the buildings to prevent the colony from disappear but don't know if that also stops the mayor events from the worm quest

>want to play galactic slavers
>only race thats decent enough to use as domestic slaves are proto-avari space elves
Is there a mod to fix this? I dont want to have my people fuck goat headed hairy men. And half them empires are plants.

>>174648440
Making a huge empire is sure great, but sometimes, you roleplay as a nation that should stay small and build high.

Is there any purpose to Unity once you've unlocked all ascension perk slots?

Can I just replace all the unity buildings now?

>>174648851
The only thing about this game is its district system, i prefer civ 5 and civ 4 in any other aspect.

>>174649453
That's the good thing about being a slaver rather than a typical xenophile though.
You can just genocide all the plants and use the space elves everywhere, genemodded as needed.

>>174649172
>Havocs

but chaos isn't in :^)

>>174649535
Nope and yes

>>174649535
>Can I just replace all the unity buildings now?
Yes. They really need a late game unity sink to make it not useless.

>>174649696
>>174649758
cheers lads

>>174649535

I'd keep the ones that add something other than unity

Symbol of purity happiness and such

>>174649629
Yea but just one race... I mean if they mad ehumans look better or maybe some other humanoids. I mean really, 5 humaniods in total. What were they thinking. Atleast the no ears can be some kind of food.

>>174649818
No problem frienderino

>>174649906
yeah, i was meaning for the hypercomms forum since that only gives unity

>>174649473
It's still "building high" if the blob from your 5 planets is taking up an entire galactic arm.

is there any use for unity after you unlocked all traditions?

The robot pop I built before researching droids isn't upgrading, what do? DO they only upgrade once I get synths?

>>174650095
wait until the next month

>>174650126
I did wait several months, still a robutt

>>174650001
I'm always playing on huge (or whatever biggest map is called), so it's not that easy. My 17 core system + 3 huge sectors is only covering like 1/4~1/5 of the galaxy.

So
>habitats are great
>ringworlds are expensive, useless, and show up too late
>dyson spheres are too expensive when you could just build energy habitats
>science nexuses are too expensive when you could just build science habitats
>sentry array is cool but not worth dumping 70k minerals into when you could just be building ships

>>174649660
"Devastators", you know what I mean

Maybe it was just easier to ignore DoW1 and Retribution's issues because I got to play my favorite factions

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>>174650026

>>174650214
>>174650126
Okay, it worked after about a year
Nevermind I guess

>>174650238
Basically, megastructures arrive so late in the game that they are totally redundant. A ringworld would be baller as fuck if you were still mid game, but by the time you have all the techs and perks needed to build one it's kinda meh. And by the time it finally finishes the allure of all those gaia tiles is also not so great. Every time I finish a ring world I already have the power to terraform regular planets into gaia worlds so big whoop?

>>174650238
Well, evetything you wrote is right, but in late game on big as you already focused on developing your empire and having fun, not expanding. If your goal is to conquer everybody you propably did this already at this point or your victory is 100% sure.

>>174650304
Bane?

>>174649696
Not him but how do I build over Unity buildings that are now in sectors?

>>174650878
You can't unless you take the system out of the sector first, then put it back in when you're doing replacing it.

>>174650975
Jesus fuck why don't they let us just develop tiles in sectors? I jsut checked after asking that and the AI has built 300 robots on empty tiles and not cleared any blockers.

>>174651057
I only use sectors to connect areas. Like if I have to inhabit a planet and I dont want it I use that.

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>>174650238
>Get habitats
>Discover the Cybrex System
>All those habitats
>All those hamburgers

>>174651057
Well that's more your fault than anything. We've known the sector AI can't develop planets for shit since release and their attempts to fix that have been fruitless. Always put undeveloped worlds into sectors at your own peril.

>>174649348

I've never successfully finished this thing

>>174651568
>Well that's more your fault than anything.
Sure thing lad I'm going back to a good game now smell ya later

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I finished my religious space elves game. Which of these should I play now? I'm thinking about the pacifist plants since I've never really played a peaceful game before.

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>>174648851
Optimizing cities in Civilizations VI.

>>174643784
The stellaris stuff is *insanely* outadated, not too mention horribly organized. The mega link is like 400 folders with no titles.

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>unbidden spawn
>warp in with my 100k of fleet and destroy the portal straight away
was i supposed to wait or something?

>>174649953
I know what you mean.
I wish there was a way to blacklist some races when starting a game.

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Who /unbidden/ here?

>>174644521
Militant Autists

>>174651156
What's with the Cybrex system? Isn't it only a ruined ringworld with living metal?

>>174652250
you can build habitats on each of the destroyed ringworld segments

>>174650238

Habitats are inefficient as fuck in terms of unity/science

That's their main (and only) downside

>tfw your highest level science ship just decides to survey enemy territory while I'm fighting a war
>ends up getting destroyed
What the fuck. This shit shouldn't be possible with evasive stance. I knew the AI was dumb, but jesus.

Where's a good source to find the DLC for Stellaris? Vanilla's getting a bit dull and I'm not keen on shelling out like $40 to get a bunch of shit they pulled from the release version.

>>174652707

>he didn't buy the turkish portrait DLC

>>174652545
Don't set science ships to autoexplore during wars. They have a nasty habit of stopping what they were doing and heading straight to the nearest enemy held system to commit suicide.

what are the must have to make playing steshit less painful?

>>174652707
https://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68551

>>174652545
Problem is evasive does not consider enemy mining stations as hostile, the mining stations do fire on enemy civilian ships.

>>174652707
I just got it off pirate bay.

>>174652063
Are there other crisis? I've never gotten anything other than Unbidden, I even hold off researching jump drives myself every game but the cunts still show up.

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>>174651971
>82 cruisers and 82 destroyers

>>174653120

Why the fuck do mining stations even have weapons anyway. They have enough power to stall a SINGLE corvette and absolutely nothing else

>>174653489
There are 3, but Unbidden is so heavily weighted that you're lucky if you ever see them.

The others are AI Rebellion and the psionics one

>>174653543
To punish those who don't set their army transports to follow their fleet.

>>174652984
>>174652707
any risk if you unlock the dlc's for the steam base game, i don't want to lose my account...

>>174653489
Yes. There's unbidden, AI, and zerg

>>174652545
>I knew the AI was dumb
>Has his science ships on auto-explore during a war

No anon, you are the dumb.

>>174653736
I linked my paradox account to it and people from /gsg/ have gone on paracuck forums laughing at people who bought the DLC. I've only got my own experience to go by but I think you'll be alright. As long as rubes buy their shovelware at 1 dollar per megabyte pirates will be fine.

>>174653671
>>174653743
I get synths every game and I've still never got anything except Unbidden.

Which is a shame, the Pretheryn or whatever they're called sound quite cool.

>>174653889
whoa there lad better prepare some ointment if you're going to burn people this hard

>>174652980
>>174652980
>>174652980
>>174652980
>>174652980
>>174652980
MUST HAVE MOD

>>174654006
Unbidden will usually happen if someone researches warp
AI will usually happen if someone researches it before someone researches warp
Pretheryn will usually happen eventually if no one researches warp or AI

>>174653489
>>174654006

Unbidden always pop because some fuck always gets jump drive, which is what triggers them to spawn. Prethoryn Swarm will happen if no other crisis happens after 350 years in game AFAIK, they're suppose to be the default crisis. AI requires some one to build synths, research AI, and then keep synths enslaved for it to have chance to show up, which is a rare enough combination of factors for it to basically not exist.

>>174654116
Think of something about Stellaris that annoys you. Now look up to see if there is a fix for it on the workshop. You could also read the sticky and stop asking to be spoonfed.

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>>174654185
get t fuk out of my board
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>174654185
The only thing about Stellaris that annoys me is the price but someone ITT already fixed that for me. Based 4chan saving me dosh.

I want a mod that lets me add new portraits without breaking cheevos

>>174654175
So what you're saying is I need to conquer every other species in the galaxy before any of them can do something stupid research jump drives or synths in order to see the Prethoryn?

Sounds like a fun thing to attempt at least.

I thought the FE's were supposed to stop the kids from researching dangerous techs, or is that just the player and the AI can do what the fuck it likes?

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gonna try another go at the hive mind

>>174654393

Paradox solved this by breaking cheevos for you

>>174654393
>Caring about achievements

why tho

>>174654549
because it feels neeto when you unlock a rare cheevo

>Set my species to Full Citizenship once I've conquered a few xenos who will live in the caste system
>Primary species pops still become enslaved if they work on farms or mines

Great game Paradox, 10/10.

>>174654410
Only the materialist FE will fuck you up for researching dangerous tech, but only if you research enough dangerous tech (usually two or three) so they're more likely to bring the hammer down on someone building waifubots than researching jump drive. Be aware though that just because some one does research jump drive doesn't mean Unbidden are guaranteed to happen, the game basically rolls the dice each time to see to which crisis happens, and certain events just weight it towards different ones.

Personally I'd like some more crises implemented as is . Unbidden and Prethoryn 60k rape fleets are fun and all but once you figure out how to cheese them there's no more enjoyment to be derived out of them, and AI rebellion is almost always anemic unless it spawns in some shit tier weak empire.

>>174653543
It's explicitly to kill autoexplore science vessels and thus troll the fuck out of you.

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>>174653543
Would love to be able to design mining stations, along with science/construction ships.

A mining station built using the combat station frame with a bunch of small/medium turrets that doubles as an outpost because the "outpost" module was moved into the additional effects slot.

An outpost with a crew and maintenance bay so it allows fleets to dock with it for repairs and reductions in maint cost.

A science module in a cruiser hull to make an armed science ship.

A construction ship with multiple repair nanite swarm station module, built into a battleship hull. To make a mobile repair base.

A battleship with a wormhole generation station module, to make a mobile wormhole generator.

They could have done so much with the ship design system.

>>174655230
>Play commonwealth of man
>find the sol system
>Earth is nuked so hard it aint even a tombworld, it's straight up toxic.

Atleast this proves that the Xenophobe FE that held the system deserved the nervestapling.

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>>174655164
Surprising how effective Kinetic Artillery destroyers with Flak Artillery is against the Prethoryn. They did something like 3x the damage compared to an equivalent number of plasma cruisers.

>>174654768

>Full Citizenship
>Caste system

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>>174655887

Why choose?

>>174656080
Fuck off, attention whore.

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i hate paradox, this fucking half done they've make is GETTING ME INSANE
OK, LETS DO IT, I WILL MAKE A SPACE-BASED GRAND STRATEGY, HOW DO I BEGIN?!

>>174655548
sounds like alpha centauri...

>>174656295
Start by learning English.

>>174656359
>airplane hull + colony pod = long range colonization missile
I miss that game.

>>174656440
cruiser turned into a sub, transport with carrier, you've just made a nuke carrying sub, 16 planetbusters sitting off their coast, in one turn their continent and feeble people are obliterated with only ocean remaining in their stead

>>174656379
commom bud help
also


>enemy in defensive pact with spiritualist who loves me
>make no agrsion pact with the one who loves me
>unsurprizinly he will enter the war anyways
why
i mean
WHY

>>174656720
Learn English, drop the name and the animeposting.

>>174646573
>Not giving them the delicious trait and eating them

>>174656791
bud, why the fuck are you calling me namefag

>>174656894
>anonimo

>>174656894
Because you're a retard, "bud".

>>174656690
>Lal war decs me for building planet busters
>sink the continent he's on
>Diedre bitches at me for fucking up the planet
>turn her cities into literal craters
>Miriam bitch at me because "MUH JESUS"
>initiate the apocalypse
>Only one continent left, mine

I love SMAC

>>174656928
shit, i forgot, sorry.

>>174656928
>>174656950
>not automatically filtering all namefags
Hownew.ru

>>174656994
>killing Miriam
You monster. You deserve to be nerve-stapled.

>>174653539
still win

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>>174643562
Finally the nightmare is over
a fucking century of peace where we couldn't get empires to join our federation, but we didn't hate them enough to go to war either, somebody finally cracked and we could finally end it.

>>174657190
nerve stapling is the only way to get the smile off your face...

>>174657620
>2591
JFC

>>174649076
asl is bringing back broodwar. This is the best timeline

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>>174657620
You make Kumo proud.

>>174656720
>>174656720
>>174656720
halp

>>174658000
Fuck off attention whore.

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So cute, the Fanatic Xenophobes are tsundere against me!

Also, what else can I do to further increasing trust? Should I make a federations so I can give them association?

>>174657620
federations, not even once

>>174658307
Start by being less self-centered. We don't have any obligation to help you, and you're being annoying by constantly bumping yourself.

>>174658170
he's so tsun adorable.

>tfw I'm already bored of Stellaris 1.5

I didn't even finish a single game

>>174655887
Fuck this. Everytime i start a purifier i end up defeating the unbidden or the scourge, then i feel bad that i can't have people admiring me just becuase i'm a bit too into indiscriminate genocide

Life is hard

>>174658694
>routinely kill kids throwing stones in my garden
>local pedophile try to run away with one
>shoot him
>strangely, people aren't praising me

>spend 5 years building a habitat
>finally complete
>no pops on it
are you fucking kidding me
i have to build the habitat, then i have to build a fucking colony ship to populate it too?

>>174658634
its because is shallow as fuck, has rp but its too half done, specially combat, i am going to make a space game much better than this, just await

>>174658694
i get that problem even as xenophobic pacifists

>>174655961
Yeah, with Authoritarian, you get the choice of Full Citizenship, which is supposed to mean they have full rights as a species, or Caste System, where any pops on mining or farm tiles are enslaved but science and power tiles are free.

Is it worth ti to use one Habitat slot for Leisure District? Dunno if that 10% happiness directly translates to +10% production

>>174658872
Yes.
And you better hurry up, or the AI will colonize it.

>>174658453
only you is having issues with my self bumbing, go suck a dick

>>174659152
Wrong. I'm just the only one who think you can be redeemed. Everyone else is already filtering you.

But I notice now that I've been wasting my time, you're retarded being belief.

>>174659152
Underage

@174659152
hello /v/

>>174659316
>>174659274
samefag

>>174659521
Pathetic. Truly pathetic.

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I restarted for much less, but this is literally THE worst start i have ever seen.
These are fanatic purifiers on blue by the way.

>>174659274
*beyond

>>174659713
Give him @s you dummy

he wants the (You)s

>>174659779
I'll do better. I'll hide his posts.

Since he's too retarded to listen to friendly advices...

>>174659779
i just wanted help but underages like yourselves cant understand, i will fuck off before your dumbness infects me aswell,

>>174659743
just kick their ass you pussy

>>174660014
The difference in minerals is too big.
Also my science ships can't even leave this area.

Though i guess i would have a decent chance just declaring war immediately.

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Great galaxy name, lads.

Also, is it worth uplifting and integrating species? Is it worth it at all if those species are xenophobic?

>>174648704
You mean dawn of war 2 but bigger

>>174660442
>no base building ring around the rosie spam every unit has an ability you need to spam
>but bigger

no

>>174658865
heh, you can argue with tech but not results. Number of pedophile and thus sex crime down. Job well done

Are X slot Mega Cannons worth using?

What is new best fleet comp in Stellaris?

>>174660367
>galaxy

>>174660581
Can you put them on cruisers, destroyers, or corvettes?

>>174660537
You still killed many kids before killing ONE criminal.

>>174660696

No

>>174660615
https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/61nolh/ship_equipment_load_out_for_141_15/

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As a Hive Mind how are you supposed to suppress xeno pops that you've recently conquered? Normally I just pile a bunch of defensive armies on all of their planets after the war, but Hive Minds can't do that.

>>174660746
Pedos can't rape kids if there's no kids to rape.

>Get event for precursor artifacts
>'Planet' to scan is a black hole

>>174660779
Then I don't understand the question
What would you even put them on?
>>174660615
2 cruisers : 3 destroyers : 4 corvettes
Everything plasma, load some cruisers with flak, some destroyers with kinetic arty, and some corvettes with E torpedoes

>>174660862
>go bio path
>modify them to hive minded trait

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;_;

Wanted to uplift these space nazis, regret building an outpost now
>>174660646
FUCK NOT AGAIN, SYSTEM

>>174660896

Im still very new, I take this to mean that battleships are currently useless?

>>174660874
... Shit you're right.
I guess that's how Fanatic Purifiers think.

>non-hivemind pops in hivemind empires are killed and turned into food, since they aren't part of the hive
>yet the hivemind can engage in diplomacy perfectly well, which means it obviously has the capacity to recognize other sapient life as individuals
>hivemind pops die out in non-hivemind empires, since they're cut off from the hivemind
>despite the fact that a hivemind could have a colony clear across the galaxy and its pops be just fine, while the pops that are two systems away from its core words are apparently cut off from the hivemind
Why are the devs so fucking retarded.

>>174661036
Build more mining shit brah, no one needs that much dosh early on

>>174661002
I-I'm like 50 years into the game my dude

>>174661090
Naw man it's just a joke. Battleship-less fleets work but so do fleets with battleships
Just experiment on your own and find what you like, but plasma are definitely the best main weapons

>>174660512
Faggot

>>174660442
>DoW2
>not shit

>>174661036
Would be nice if there was a way to prevent that. Or trigger it.

They can nuke themselves even if there's no outpost to observe them.

Fact.
RTS without base building are trash.

>>174661439
It had Tyranids and they were fun to play, so 1/10.

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I saved some important piece of literary culture of the tsundere xenophobes, hopefully they will want a mutual defence pact now or even a migration treaty so we can live together

>>174661161
I found some Betharian Stone and got near a lot of gas giants/planets/etc. that I could mine +4 energy from

>>174661484
>>174661036
>find machine age civ
>build outpost and set to influence
>decades later, they descend into nuclear war
>ethics didn't shift a single time

>>174661595
I got that event twice, it stacks.

>>174661484
>Would be nice if there was a way to prevent that

Yeah, like stage a fake alien invasion and get them to blast their ICBMs into space and unify them. They would hate you,

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>tfw you realize strike craft are useful

>>174661724
Fake stage with ships/troops disguised as an other empire. They become a xenophobic vassals that hate the other empire and love you for "protecting" them.

>>174661770
Last battle I went into 50 torp corvettes, 50 k-a + flak destroyers and 50 plasma cruisers. The k-a destroyers did 3x the damage the plasma cruisers did while shooting down every single strike craft and missile from the cheap knockoff tyranids.

Torpedo corvettes did some fraction of the damage. There's a lot to be said about late game destroyers with best sensors, fleet academy and enigmatic decoders.

>>174662196
>fleet academy
Wait what? The things you build on the orbitals tation?

>>174662665
Yeah, increases accuracy, tracking and fire rate. I make it a priority to get and build them first thing.

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>>174661595
After being their literary saviors and 2400 energy later, I got them join into a mutual defense pact.

Was worth it for the new tsun dialog they give

The Hermit Kingdom still won't fucking open their borders

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Oh no, the FE is nearby?

>>174663213
Is it worth colonizing Holy Worlds? I'm likely have some Satanist FE roaming around, right?

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How am I doing?

what FTL travel method is most likely to be developed first irl?

>>174663575
You're going to have to deal with the Ir-Nuk-Val someday, putting it off is just going to make it worse.

>>174663694
Hopefully none until we can prove that kike Einstein wrong.

I'd rather not open up the can of worms that breaking causality would bring.

>>174663496
Only if you think you stand a chance of bloodying the FE's nose. They can't build new ships until they Awaken, so every ship you destroy represents a permanent reduction in their capabilities. It can be worth it to go to a war you have no realistic shot of winning to reduce their power for the next war when you have a shot at taking one of their worlds - keep in mind, though, that if you take a FE world without wiping them out, they'll instantly Awaken, and will Awaken any other FE in the galaxy regardless.

Anons, help me, i ve put the extended traits in my stellaris but when i try to create a new race they do not appear.

>>174664135
>Only if you think you stand a chance of bloodying the FE's nose

Fuck but, I can't even see them!

>>174664135

simultaneously declare war on every FE, conquer them, declare simultaneous peace

>>174664265
Don't worry, if you touch that planet they'll find you.

>>174663694
Of the stellaris FTL, warp or wormholes.

>>174663857
There's nothing rule breaking about warp or wormholes. We just have to figure out how to generate bubbles or make wormholes.

>>174664282
I mean

you COULD

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>system that I had built research posts and and observation whatevers went out of my borders some how

How is this fucking possible?

>>174653671
>psionics

Does the psychic one show up if you have gotten one of the other ones?

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>>174663769
Nah, they're Democratic crusading Butterflies with an Arctic preference and wormhole FTL. Even with all that border friction they're still friendly.

My real concern are the militant knife ears on my western border.

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r8 me

>>174664456
Someone at the nearby planet migrated to an other planet thus reducing it's influence circle?

>>174665152
I built a colony ship, fuck.

Is it possible to unbuild it? Like everyone, get the fuck back to the homeplanet?

>>174665087
>repugnant
>very strong
>fluffy butterfly-moths
I mean come on. Pick an other picture.

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Fuck you bird assholes and your phony god’s blessed planets, I want that planet

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>>174665392
>the other good planet is also near the bird assholes

I want to fucking cry

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So a droid empire called the Awoken suddenly appeared next to a nearby empire and initiated diplomacy. Even have a positive relationship with me.

So they're not thirsting for my organic blood and they're not synths, just droids. These guys aren't the AI rebellion, are they? Who are they?

>>174665530
Holy guardians do not have border friction, as long as you don't colonize a gaia or tomb world, they'll be happy.

>>174665087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3lintstLuQ
/ 10

>>174665715
They're from an event

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What can compete with Technological Ascendancy?

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>>174665715
Some AI empire did the "Limbo" quest and had droid level tech, decided to let them go instead of having them settle on one of their worlds. Thus spawning the "Awoken" droid empire.

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Ok, you guys talk a lot of Stellaris, but I want to play with stellaris /vg/, how do we go about that?

>>174666143
Mastery of nature for wide, Interstellar dominion for tall and habitats of course

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When should I take steps to form a federation?

Now seems appropriate since I have everyone liking me and I hate those holy birds.

Also, my borders are fucking cancer, I hate this

>>174666341

>2208
>Habitats

>>174666426
Well you didnt mention any date
By the way, if you wanna go for tech, you should probably start with the discovery tree

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>>174666413
>My second Prime Minister isn't the space specie as my primary race

PYRENUS
YES

>>174665927
>>174666180
So they're effectively harmless, alright.

It must suck being stuck in droid bodies, though. Those aren't really 'sapient' so these guys are just playing pretend at being people instead of truly being self aware.

I think I'm actually the only person with the tech for synths in the galaxy thanks to the Infinity Sphere, but I'm also a spiritualist and can't build them so hey.

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Why can xenophobe pacifists destroy planets of advanced aliens without remorse but can't invade primitives?

>>174665152
If I build robots, will i get my circle back?

>>174666143
extra core worlds and one vision

>>174664259
someone help pls

If I have a colonized planet in the same system as the people I uplift

Do I get to keep my planet?

>>174667185
>Why are some people okay with hitting adults but not children?

>>174667591
yes

>>174667591
Yes, and mining stations. It becomes a split ownership system.

>>174667734
>Why do people who want to exterminate all xenos outside their territory not exterminate xenos inside their territory

Is Flak Artillery still fucking awesome in Banks? Or did it get the nerf? I'm thinking situationally it might be pretty much required for taking on Fallen/Awakened Empires.

>>174668478
Flak Artillery is still a necessity for dealing with anything with missiles, and they still fuck corvette spam up.

anon who tried stellar monarch here
what the fuck,. i dont know how play this shit, it hasnt even a tutorial

>>174668631
Good to know. I wish flak was available in the early game.

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>war in heaven starts
>tell both empires to fuck off
>both declare war on me
>heft both up and break them over my knee at the same time
so this
is the power
of cruisers

How complex do you like your ship editor?

is polaris sector worth?

is there any way to change ftl method after you start?

>>174669143
Detailed within reason, but with high quality autobuilding so I can ignore it until minmaxxing ships actually matters