/pg/ - Persona general

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>doing yusuke's Slink
>falls to the ground after criticism
>tell him to stand up
>Ah! I see, I must stand up both litterery AND figuratively

God I fucking love this man why could't he live with me. Atleast I got the whole summer with him

>>174595815
Nope I wish it was though.

>>174595846
Most slinks end that way.

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KINKY

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Shuake! Shuake!

why is akechi-kun the only one to use "boku"?

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Claiming best girl.

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Goro is literally me

>>174595916
>90% of yusuke's responses are him ignoring what you actually said and assuming you meant the best possible meaning

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>>174595870

You WOULD make the P2 thread right as I have to go to bed and can't talk about it wouldn't you

How do you get skill cards through "skill card negotiation"? I thought it was just asking them for an item during a hold-up, but that doesn't seem to be it.

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I'm going to romance Futaba in NG+

She said she doesn't want to get used to me not being around.

So when I leave it'll be even more soul crushing.

Maximum bully.

I wish my cat could turn into a cool van and drive all over my enemies

>>174595998

I can see where Futaba gets her personality from

>>174595998
>tfw want to finish EP to see how the story ends
>hate how slow it is

fucking reeeeeee P2EPSP when??

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/PG/

I'LL REVEAL YOUR TRUE FORM

>>174595972
>ywn lie in sensei's lap

Why live?

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>>174596045

Chinese Ozzy Osborne is an excellent role model

Someone explain this shit to me.

Why can goro understand the fucking cat? You have to see him talking in the metaverse, it's not enough to just be in the metaverse once since Sae was also in the metaverse but can't understand the fucking cat.

Why does Haru never question the phantom thieves after her father died? How does she know that you didn't fuck something up and it's entirely your fault that he's dead now? Keep in mind she just joined you and there have been cases of breakdowns in the past.

What the fuck was Makoto even hoping to accomplish by storming into fat guys office with her phone on? All she knows is that YOU need to talk to him, yet she goes in there and gets busted. Even if it was on impulse because she was so mad it was such a retarded that had like 0% chance of working out that it doesn't make sense for her to do it. Especially since even in the best case you wouldn't even get to talk to him.

Why the fuck does Igor still fucking execute personas even after the real one gets saved? The whole point of executing them was that fake igor can't fuse personas on his own, why does new igor continue that shit? And why the fuck does lavenza still charge you for summoning personas by the end of the game? Fucking jewish cunt.

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>>174596089

Why did you make a new thread? /pg/ could have been dead again.

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>always play the game in my room on small LCD
>had to sit near the screen to see shit in the green Mementos floor
>mfw I notice for the first time the awkward as hell models flapping their mouths and janky movements during cutscenes

>>174596125
>Why can goro understand the fucking cat? You have to see him talking in the metaverse

Huh, that is kind of weird, unless I'm forgetting something, but doesn't the pancake scene happen fairly early?

Also I'm still wondering how he got out of Okumura's palace so quickly after casually walking up and killing the shadow, wasn't everyone freaking out how it was about to blow

How the fuck do I get a Megidolaon skill card?

Guys, I just started on Shido's palace, and the game told me to remember my Confidants. Is this a warning that I need to hit a threshold or did the game expect me to be done with all of them by the time I finish this palace? I've done everything blind up to this point and this has me worried. Most of my links are at 7~8 with seven complete...

>>174596125
>What the fuck was Makoto even hoping to accomplish by storming into fat guys office with her phone on?

She asked the driver where were they heading hoping for a tongue slip

>>174596353
I think it's just reminding you to do them because you're nearing the end of the game.

>>174596353
It's the same as Magatsu-Inaba, once you're done with it S.Links become unavailable.

>>174596125
>Why does Haru never question the phantom thieves after her father died?
Because the other ones didn't die and just confessed. She knew the PT didn't do it

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Anyone despise Shido's boss as far as the design of it goes?

He starts as a gracefully dressed, caped tyrant riding a golden lion-like monster. Then after you whittle him down a bit he strips his clothing and ends up as a steroid buffed bald guy with power limiters that he eventually removes to glow red and have his power levels go over 9000.

What's the best fusion website?

>>174596495
No, it's pretty fitting of his image of himself.

>>174596486
What about the 50 cases of mental shutdowns? They were triggered the same way her fathers death was triggered. Or are you telling me she's so fucking retarded that she couldn't possibly make the connection between the mental shutdown of her father and the mental shutdowns that happened across the city?

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Why do some people here prefer Japanese teddie than English teddie?

Are they fucking deaf? Japanese teddie is a monstrosity

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>>174595916
Yusuke surprised me by being my favourite character in 5.

I cant remember the exact wording, but one of the random Mementos exchanges is along the lines of

Ann: I've had this weird feeling like someone is staring at me all the time at school lately.
Yusuke: Just at school? Then is isn't me.

>>174596594
I've never heard that

Personally I think Eng Teddie being slightly less annoying is a pretty strong argument for the P4 dub over sub

>>174596594
they're both shit to be fair

>>174596628
I've been lurking /pg/ ever since I finished P5 a week ago and I've heard a bunch of complaints on dub teddie which implies them thinking the Japanese is any better even if its slight.

>>174596495
Shido on the lion with Rivers playing was definitely the most pumped up battle. The buffed steroid phase(s) was garbage in comparison

>>174596625
And people still think he's a fag.

Is there a guide for maxing out the confidants in NG+ when I have maxed out social stats? Is it possible to also get all the other trophies I missed on my first playthrough like "Read all book" or "Play all videogames" and "Catch the pond guardian" ?

>>174596797
there's a guide for 100% on a fresh file, you don't need any guide for NG+. it's an easy ride

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Big bro?

>>174596797
Since you maxed social stats you don't have to worry about it

>>174596876
>>174596885
I'm scared I might fuck it up, I'm genuinely retarded when it comes to managing time properly.

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Ryuji and Ann are a ________

>>174596953
canon ship

>At June 5 evening
>Already have 3s in Knowledge and Proficiency

Damn, that was quick.

>>174596917
You dont have to manage time with max stats.

>>174595870
Ohya is Maya

>>174596917
If you have maxed all stats it's genuinely impossible to fuck up unless you ignore social links on purpose. For reference it's possible to max all confidants by october on a first playthrough so you can imagine how much room there is for fucking up on NG+

>>174595973
R.I.P. anon. You died as you lived.

>>174597042
>>174597017
Alright I'll give it a shot and see if I can manage a perfect run, thanks senpaitachi.

>>174596917
If you're worried about messing up, always bring a matching Persona for Confidant meetings and save scum until you're satisfied with the affection boosts you get.

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>just caught the Guardian

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I hope they go back a few steps in one regard with future persona games and take couple of cues from 3

The main party shouldn't have their character development and persona evolution tied to their social links. It means that any personal growth they have either has to be inconsequential or inconsistent during main story events. It also means that the world revolves even more around the MC (4 was particularly guilty with this) whereas 3 had SEES forming bonds with different people depending on their story (Yukari and Mitsuru, Aki/Shinji/Ken having their little drama, Junpei and Chidori, etc). They should still have social links, absolutely, but let it be more about getting to know them and discovering new aspects of their personality rather than solving all their emotional troubles. Give them a combo attack or special power or something if you want a reward tied to it.

The other one is pacing; in 4 and 5 there is no reason to not rush the dungeons to get them out of the way ASAP and allow yourself more time to dick around eating at Big Bang Burger. This means you need some explanation why the plot doesn't move on till the right day (Futuba sure did sleep a long time and Haru's dad survived a long time after having his shadow gunned down). In 3 you knew the day you had your big fight and could train as much or as little as you wanted in the mean time. It was admittedly helped by Tartarus being a night time activity and not having as much competition as far as things to do went; plus Tartarus itself had a lot of faults. But (and this is off the top of my head, I'm sure you could think of something better) if in 5 say you had to send the calling card and go right in on a specific day (lets say the big volleyball meet for Kamoshida for maximum exposure) but you could go into his palace prior to scout out and train. Or for Shido you wouldn't have his co conspirators knowing he'd changed for weeks and then sending him out on tv anyway, then panicking when he confessed.

>>174596953
cute couple

>>174597190

Think of the alternative.

If its NOT tied to sociallinks. What is going on in those social links? Non personal growth? Just silly events?

I'm satisfied with the way it is.

>>174596760
I never got the vibe Yusuke was gay. I can see why people would mind you, but for me he just seemed totally oblivious as to how some of his actions might be perceived, as well as having a poorly concealed desire for Ann that he rationalized as FOR ART.

I mean it probably was for art as well, but between his reactions during the operation to get into the art room and his apparent assumption that moving in with her was totally okay theres something going on

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Does it depress anyone there's a space between Futaba and Haru's seats just for Akechi but he's fucking dead

>>174597319
>depressed that an evil piece of shit is dead

Nope, also he was never part of the PT or friends with any of them so he wouldn't be there anyway.

>>174597319
>seat for Akechi
>this delusional

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>>174597319
>but he's fucking dead
Is he though?

>>174597319
No
Remembering that Akechi is fucking dead and forgotten makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside

>>174597319
If he was alive and not a criminal they still wouldn't have invited him

>>174597319
>there's space
Akechi is fucking tall boi theres no way he'll fit between those girls

>>174597319
He's in a better place anon
in our hearts

>>174597391
this, the fact that nobody remembers him is hilarious

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Why do some people have trouble admitting Makoto was raped in the Kaneshiro bad ending?

Joker didn't remember wrong.

Is it possible to reverse Slinks like in 3 and 4?

Why is captcha having me do 6 different tests?

>>174597319
Want me to give you a hint?
That seat is empty so we can see the other members clearly.
Not for your fuckboy murdering fujo bait.

Wow, Joker's dialogue choices to Mishima are so mean

>>174597521
Mishima deserves it

>As a villian liked Goro and how he realized he fucked up but it was way to late
>non stop fujoposts and he dindu nuffins

Fuck you guys

>>174597260
>If its NOT tied to sociallinks. What is going on in those social links? Non personal growth? Just silly events?

I think you'd need balance. And you could still have personal growth, it just doesn't need to be the entirety of their character arc.

Something like say having Ann's arc in 5 broken up into a main plot one about Shiho, which is what awakens her persona and a social link arc about her learning to take modeling (and her goals in general) seriously and stop stuffing her damn face, which builds off the stuff she learned from Shiho.

I doubt thats a perfect example, but I'm sure with more thought and better writers than I they could come up with something good that doesn't cause character whiplash.

Plus I really just hate how in 4 in particular all development revolves so hard around the MC. I like a more ensemble cast feel I guess.

>>174596883
Why does he look so girly? Like he'd be a 10/10 trap.

>>174597475
And how the fuck he got to end of story, if this happen?

>>174597475
Because there is no bad ending you retard. You sit in the room already, everything up to that point happened in the past. It's not like you create multiple timelines in your past by telling a story differently.

>>174597575
Honestly, I liked Goro for the same reasons I liked Adachi; they're bad people and deserve hate. They're not without good qualities (and in Akechi's case) reasons for why they're so fucked up, but at the end of the day they still deserve the contempt they get in and out of story. And thats a good thing!

Its more the dindunuffins that get my back up, but you just gotta take it in stride or delve into shitposting

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>Baton Passing to a person who just used Concentrate

>accidentally brought perfect personas to make it impossible to lose the goro fight
What a letdown.

>>174597540
Mishima is just a cute beta boy. He doesn't deserve the bullying desu

>>174596125
>Why can goro understand the fucking cat? You have to see him talking in the metaverse, it's not enough to just be in the metaverse once since Sae was also in the metaverse but can't understand the fucking cat.

I guess the implication was he'd been spying on you in Madarame's Palace.

Then again they don't seem surprised that he can understand Morgana when he first confronts the party at the School Festival either, even though according to his story he hadn't seen them in the Metaverse yet. I know they know he's lying anyway because of Pancakes but Morgana doesn't remember that until after their conversation.

So I guess Atlus just forgot or didn't care because they didn't want any filthy adults getting to understand the cat.

>>174597475
You don't have to be this desperate to justify what you fap to, its okay if it isn't canon

>>174597596
I agree. We should break immersion even more and have more scenes like Goro and Shido plot dumping all over our face.

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>>174597695
>futaba uses supercharge

>>174597190
>The main party shouldn't have their character development and persona evolution tied to their social links.
So, give most characters 2 days to talk about shit, evolve, then disappear?

>>174597750
The requirement to hearing Morgana wasn't seeing him in the Metaverse, it was just being in Metaverse, as I understood it.

>>174596125
>You have to see him talking in the metaverse, it's not enough to just be in the metaverse once since Sae was also in the metaverse but can't understand the fucking cat.


I always assumed you had to be a persona user and that they were just wrong about the "you gotta see him talking" thing.

>>174597647
>high school girl in an illegal establishment said his name in a drug induced stupor.
>Not rape
It's not good to be delusional anon.

i wish something had happened with that typhoon they were talking about on the tv before the hawaii trip. mona was worried the plane would be fucked

>>174597867
That's why Hifumi and Yusuke ended up in Hawaii too

>>174597475
>>174597845
Except that didn't happen dumbass, otherwise Joker wouldn't get far enough to get captured and iterrogated by Sae.

>>174597475

I'm no makoto fan, where's the sauce for this doujin?

>>174597832
Sae was in the Metaverse and still couldn't understand him

>>174597867
That's where they're going to place PQ2.

>>174597831
I think something like Ryuji's SL revolving entirely around training to run makes his scene with the lifeboat much more stronger. If you don't really do the SL for Ryuji it doesn't make much sense for him to have this big heroic moment. Especially when he shouldn't be able to run very well if he didn't train with you previously.

After that scene would have been a fantastic point for Ryuji's Persona to evolve desu.

>>174597831
Hopefully they'd have good writing to not have that issue, but I suppose thats asking too much.

A smaller cast would probably help. As much as I like Haru, I can't help but think without her there would have been more time to develop some of the vaguer plot points and maybe make Goro less bad.

>>174597782
I'm not sure how you're getting from one to the other anon. I'm definitely not sure how you think having a situation where the MC teaches a character a valuable life lesson which they promptly forget in any situation other than the one on one of their social link aids immersion either.

>>174597845
Those endings also show Akechi in his black mask form killing Joker which obviously doesn't make any sense, its non canon in every way.

>>174597923
Wrong, he's being interrogated for what happened in that peculiar timeline and promptly get his ass shot.

By your logic there shouldn't be any bad ends at all.

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>>174597958
>fapping to a Makoto rape doujin

I wont tell you

>>174597984
She never understood that she was in the Metaverse. Her cognition was never changed by seeing it, even if she was in it.

>>174597647
>>174597761
>>174597615
None of the bad endings are canon, nut Makotofags want to make them double non-canon. They don't even want to admit that she gets raped if you fail.

Canon is you succeeding. Non-canon, but still official, is you failing and her being raped. Fanfiction is "Joker remembering it wrong".

>>174598041
Ah, I see what you're saying now. It kind of sounded like you meant that you simply have to enter the Metaverse, whether or not you realize you're in it

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You know what, I remember and always am aware of what the eyeball monster's purpose was in P4 but forgot what pic related existed for.

What was her role again?

>>174598001
>After that scene would have been a fantastic point for Ryuji's Persona to evolve desu.

Yeah, that'd be good. And while it doesn't make perfect sense in this case because Captain Kidd was already flying around on his boat, having persona evolution tied into the main story would allow them to actually be used in scenes like that.

>>174598012
>he's being interrogated for what happened in that peculiar timeline
That's objectively false, play the game

>>174598084
fuckdoll

>>174597958
Look for Persona 5 doujins on sad panda is this really so hard?

>>174598080

What about the other bad ends? Does Haru get sold? Ann get nude pic-ed?

>>174598004
Haru goes to the same school as you, Ryuji, Ann, and Makoto but you don't see her until after Futaba's palace in an obvious 'this is your next character' flag.

They should have allowed her SL to be accessible early in the game and have it devoted entirely to gardening, that way it's a pleasant surprise she joins your team later on.

>>174596552

She trusted Morgana who explained the rules of the verse to her, none of the other thieves's targets had shutdowns, and she was the last to leave when they confronted her father after which all of them escaped as a group and had no chance to double back.

And while it could have been some complex elaloborate plan to trick her and give her father, who none of them even met before, a shutdown that was a serious stretch.

And when you consider her father himself admitted to having a contract with the people causing the shutdowns despite him and the thieves clearly not knowing each other, it would either mean the thieves were clear, or her father himself was part of the thieves plan to trick her and was willing to die for it.

>>174598098
Same to you, go look at what fucking happened and why he get his ass arrested.

Makoto become a prostitute in her bad end. There is no disputing this.

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>>174598084
To explain the jump from eyeball monster to this.

Her boss music was pretty good at least.

>>174598080
>game literally tells you its a drug induced what-if scenario
>totally canon you guys

>>174598012
He gets shot because he can't remember the plan dumbass

>>174598041
Then, shouldn't her cognition change after they told her about it?

>>174598182
I'm pretty sure either there's a sudden influx of shitposters on here, or newfags seriously can't read

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>Pounding Shido with god's hand after he goes into his Senator Armstrong form

That felt incredibly appropriate

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>>174597867
Did you ignore 95% of my post or something? Here I wasted 5 minutes in ms paint because of your retardation. You're somewhere in the middle on the timeline when the game starts. You could never be in the interrogation room where the majority of the game takes place if any of the bad ends were true.

>>174598080
>being this desperate to have his fantasy validated by a game

>>174598162
>pls dont dispute my retarded headcanon
Play the game

>>174598239
Fuck, I quoted the wrong guy. Meant this one >>174597845

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>tfw level 99 from Reaper farming on NG and beat the Holy Grail without it even attacking once
Maybe I shouldn't have done that

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>>174598141
>Haru goes to the same school as you, Ryuji, Ann, and Makoto but you don't see her until after Futaba's palace in an obvious 'this is your next character' flag.
>They should have allowed her SL to be accessible early in the game and have it devoted entirely to gardening, that way it's a pleasant surprise she joins your team later on.

Yeah, that would have been a much better way to handle it. Especially as the vegetables she provides you would have been very useful in the early game when SP consumption is an issue, before you're covered in SP adhesives and mainlining the curry and coffee you've been making Kawakami make you while you're out on the town.

>>174598287
>>174598252
You guys really need to stop being so delusional and accept the simple fact Makoto get raped in her bad end and Joker gets arrested for his connection to her and the PT.

No amount of excuses will refute this.

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I'm surprised none of you are aroused by the prospect of Kaneshiro making Makoto his chained whore stripped of all her meaningless ideals and, eventually, doing the same to Sae.

>>174598378
>make up some stupid shit
>call people delusional for calling you out on shit being stupid

>>174598378
You're fucking retarded. Never talk to me again. I hate makoto with a passion for her being a worthless whore who almost ruins your life but you not understanding the simplest things is like talking to my 8 year old sister and why she can't drink alcohol.

>>174598382
it's not my favorite

>>174598378
Explain Sae talking about Kaneshiro being their next target when they clearly didn't send out a calling card in the bad ending.

>>174598426
Not even him but you're being incredibly delusional.
If you seriously don't think Makoto had or would get her body sold off by Kaneshiro in the bad ending, you're just stupid.

>>174598426
>refusing to accept a truth stated in the game.
>not delusional.

>>174598006

I'm pretty sure it's just dramatic shadowing so the player can't see. Same reason the voice is distorted, even though we later see that Aketchi can talk just fine.

I'd rather eat at whitecastle than big bang burger desu

>>174598484
>refusing to accept a truth stated in the game
That's literally what you're doing right now though

>>174598378
If you lack the comprehension to understand what has been explained to you I'm amazed you can even read those doujins you're getting off to

>>174598515
Is WhiteCastle actually good or not? I've never eaten there

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>>174598382
Sae would deserve it

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So is the metaverse and the TV world meant to be the same thing?

>>174598483
She would. But the bad ending will never happen because you're already past the point of it being a possibility.

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Stop getting baited guys and let's talk about best girl.

Finished the first P3 movie and maybe my memory is a bit hazy since its been a decade since I beaten P3 but, was Door-kun always such a edgy faggot?

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Why do people like Akechi Goro?

Show of hands, if you weren't spoiled who didn't realize he was a bad guy upon first meeting?

>>174598467
Explain? Okay, it's pretty simple.

Joker is drugged out and what he's hearing from her is in his head.

>>174598382
While I'm into sub/dom slave stuff in general using generic characters, I always find it unappealing when it uses characters from games or other media that I like, especially when they're generally good people. It just makes me feel bad instead of turned on.

>>174598239
>>174598467
Doesn't it explain that the truth serum makes Joker fail to correctly remember what happened with each 'failed' bad end? In all the endings like that you're shot by Goro anyway who does his shitty monologue about justice at you.

The real catch is no matter what you ARE caught in Sae's casino and that doesn't change because you failed to do anything about Kamoshida early on.

>>174598607
That doesn't explain how she isn't a prostitute when you get saved from the interrogation room, try again.

wow, shidou is really popular with, uh, hundreds of the same guy

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Just thought I'd let you all know I'm marrying Lavenza soon so please stop going to the velvet room, she doesn't want to see anyone else.

Thanks.

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>>174598581
Nah. Unfortunately they took a bad interpretation of him and ran with it.

While the P4 anime wasn't very good, I'm glad they used one of the better views of Yu; a generally good, kind of weird guy who just likes making friends.

>>174598581
no. he pretty much only had douchey or neutral dialogue options at the beginning, but they eventually got replaced with nicer ones as the game went on. he was never emotionally dead or completely whiny like in the movies

>>174597647
Joker's dad is the Prince from Prince of Persia. It all adds up.

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>>174598673
No worries.
I'll just spend time with my superior velvet wife.

>>174598643
>you ARE caught in Sae's casino and that doesn't change because you failed to do anything about Kamoshida early on
Except it totally does?
>can't stop kamoshida
>get expelled
>get kicked out of house
>phantom thieves never becomes a thing
It's like you can't think for a little bit more than not at all

>>174598084
To keep tabs on Yu and the general population, I think.

Izanami gave three people the ability to enter the shadow world, and a peice of herself. Namatame had the Jesus caricature, Adachi had the disco eyeball, and Yu got the angsty poet waifu.

I never figured that Namatames shadow thing was supposed to be linked to Izanami until Marie pointed it out in her dungeon. I have no idea what purpose it served.

> captcha has me looking for gas stations

What do I do with my free time in December?
I've maxed out all stats and S.Links.

>>174598673
Caroline was better

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>Yaldy inflicts Haru with Lust

>>174598760
Exactly. In fact thats probably the worst example he could have used.

>>174598773
Fuse personas, go on dates with your love interest, catch a fish or play vidya.

>>174598673
Will she be any good in P5 Arena?

>>174598803
What would Haru's lustful fantasy even be about, she's too pure

>>174598745
>>174598673
Margret I feel, is the weakest Velvet attendant

You actually take liz on dates and does stuff
The twins and Lavensa I count as the same person for story reasons and I found them being split by Not!YHVH pretty cool
Margret was just kinda there and then makes out with you.

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>>174598673
>>174598745

We're claiming Velvet attendants? Claiming my husband, keep away bitches and whores

PQ saved him from being retconned I'm so fucking happy

>>174598843
If she splits into Justine and Caroline and you play as them both at the same time.

>>174598773
I played vidya and read books and gave Hifumi a bunch of presents she hated.

>>174598760
What he wants to say is, that the prologue isn't some kind of flashback and shows how Joker got caught. That means the PT has to at least get to Sae's Palace, which wouldn't happen in any of the bad ends.

>>174598594
I had forgotten there was supposed to be someone who sold you out by the time I got to the casino again, so I thought nothing of him joining. I knew something was up due to the pancakes thing, but I wasn't sure.

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>>174598859
She probably is the kinkiest of them all. She has that awkward housewife feeling to her where she'd give you a handjob in the bath and then slide one of her fingers up your arse because she read about how to please her man.

>>174598816
>>174598882
I didn't romance any of the girls so I guess I'll just grind in the dungeon and make my Personas huge.

>>174598859
Hugging, maybe kissing with no tongue

>>174598957
>grind
Abuse the reaper and get to max level in an hour or two.

>>174598875
Maybe it will be Lavenza and Morgana together, Kenamaru style?

We need a new duo since Koromaru is dead by now

>>174598957
>I didn't romance any of the girls
You're playing Persona wrong.

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Can't wait for playing Persona 5 Akechi Goro!

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>>174598760
>>174598814
>forgetting all the voices in the same casino escape sequence
>all Phantom Thieves talk while you escape
>Futaba does so the anything prior to rescuing her makes no sense if it never happened
>nah it still works
Want to try again?

>>174598803
What does lust even do? When Yaldy put it on Joker nothing really happened

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>>174598957
>I didn't romance any of the girls

why not?

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>Morgana is starting to feel underappreciated and left out
>Ryuji keeps going on about how useless Morgana is despite the cat being visibly upset
>everyone forgets that without Morgana, Joker and Ryuji would literally be dead.
I'm legit sad, I just wanna hug Morgana and tell him it's all okay and he's a better party member than Ryuji.

>>174598803
What does it even do? It wore off before I could see any effects from it.

Is the anime dub medium dominated by people with Jewish last names?

>>174599065
> Promise to bring Morgana sushi
> Can't afford it
> He's too dejected to complain
I felt so bad

>>174599065

While Ryuji was definitely being a tool and I wish you had the option of telling him to cut it out, Morgana had been laying into him since day one as well. They're both at their stupidest at that point of the story.

>>174599065
>Morgana shits on Ryuji from the moment they meet by calling him a moron at every opportunity
>Ryuji just takes it on the chin because he's not a little bitch
>Ryuji gives a bit of bantz back to Morgana
>Morgana starts flipping out and runs away

Stupid cat.

>>174598767

You know the 3rd player in the game doesn't really make sense thinking about it.

If Adachi wins Shadow Apocalypse. If Yu wins the world is saved. What happens if Namatame wins? Only half the world is saved?

This seems like just a cheap excuse for a culprit fake out.

>>174599053
Joker has a lust for older women and kicking ass, the latter was in closer proximity.

>>174599159
>>Ryuji gives a bit of bantz back to Morgana
>Morgana starts flipping out and runs away

this ist what fucking happend

>Morgana gets dreams that maybe he ist human
>has no place or at least feels their is no place to call home
>PT cant decide whether or not to take down Haru's dad
>Morgana gets angry

>>174599159
Totally agree man. Morgana treats Ryuji like shit from the second they meet.

>>174599065
>>everyone forgets that without Morgana, Joker and Ryuji would literally be dead.

The MC wouldn't die, and he wouldn't let Ryuji die either.

>>174599145
The worst part was i was fucking loaded, i could've bought the shop.

>>174599192
>You know the 3rd player in the game doesn't really make sense thinking about it.

Well, Izanami wasn't really going for a save the world/destroy the world thing so much as "pick three chumps, see what they do with their power, act accordingly".

Its just Adachi and his nihilism was winning out and threatening the world. No idea what Namatame would have brought about, something about self delusion probably.

>>174599232
So basically

>Morgana has personal problems
>Does't tell anyone about it
>Ryuji fires back after months of verbal abuse directed towards him
>WTF YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M GOING THROUGH, REEEEEEEEEE

Face it, the cat was being a dickhead to him the entire time before that. If you're going to talk shit to somebody then at least be prepared to take some back.

>>174598860
Margret forces herself to fall for Yu because she wants to know what the big deal is with door-kun and Liz.

>>174599159
>Morgana generalizes it against everyone in the Phantom Thieves, including you.
I bust my ass saving people in Mementos for my SLs happiness and to save people from shittier people and that cat thinks he has the right to say I forgot the purpose of the Phantom Thieves.

>>174599232
Morgana refuses to confide in you even when the option to inquire pops up. I understand if you decide to be a shit to Morgana that he flips out but it really breaks the character when you try being supportive and as nice as possible (which I did first run) and he still blames ALL of you and goes so far to nearly hit you while zipping around in Mementos in car form.

>>174599279
Namatame was never really going to win at any point of the story, anyway. He was being manipulated by Adachi from day one.

Do any of you lads have the waifu roll chart? I'm having trouble deciding

I really thought they'd casualise P5 way more and move faaaar away from its SMT roots but I feel they embraced the SMT way more than P3/4. Although the game is still far too easy.

>>174597832
No it's not.
They clearly said that you need to be able to perceive Morgana talking to be able to understand her when you're outside of the Metaverse

>>174599324
>Ryuji fires back after months of verbal abuse directed towards him

The cat was undoubtedly a dick but Ryuji was as well. They both start up the moment they meet and it never really ends. There's no right and wrong side here because they're both dumbasses.

>>174599324
>implying he waited
Ryujii gave him shit back and fourth
Morgana got personal issues but what made him fuck of was not Ryujii shit talking him but PT being indecisive. Am not saying morgana is in the right or wrong but this meme that he left because Ryujii was a dick ist true.

>>174599406
Yes but I'm not sharing. Fuck you.

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Does this improve and fix the unrealistic character designs of Persona 5?

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>Anne is sweaty!
>Anne is buxom!
>Anne is beautiful!
>Anne is wet!
>Anne is cute!
>Anne is flexible!
>Anne is an angel!
>Anne is lewd!
>Anne is sad!
>Anne is silly!
>Anne is for kisses!
>Anne is stylish!
>Anne is for sexual!
>Anne is awesome!
>Anne is sultry!
>Anne is pure!
>Anne is amused!
>Anne is quality!
>Anne is Lovers!
>Anne is canon!
>Anne is an apricot!
>Anne is an actress!
>Anne is a model!
>Anne is Santa Claus!
>Anne is Anne, not Ann!
>Anne is best girl!

>>174599485
Ann*

>>174599503
*Momo

>>174599484
Of all the things wrong with this picture, the fact that Makoto is taller than Ann is what triggers me the most.

>>174599442
Ryuji was a dick at times but honestly, 90% of the arguments they have with each other seemed to start with Ryuji suggesting something and then Morgana going "Heh, dumb idea, you're so stupid Ryuji" and then it would go from there.

I can't really think of many times where Ryuji started to argument by saying something shitty to Morgana apart from the odd time he called him useless but again, that was after several months of Morgana baiting Ryuji to snap.

>>174599462
pls

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>>174599425
after playing like 3 SMT games, unless you are just a shitter no other SMT game will be hard

And yea likewise It was nice and all those nodes felt great the last dungeon and boss fight and archeangel bosses where goat but

>Painter
>kekako eyelashes
>gives you skill cards like the painter in P2
>that painter was based off Kenako

Yusuke is fucking Kenako he is NOT in the flower fields but in P5. The lucky dog.

Should I grow carrots or tomatos?

>>174599538
what else is wrong?

Are blank cards really that fucking rare or am I doing something wrong? I found about 3 in the entire playthrough.

>>174599605

carrots. Tomatoes suck.

>>174599635
I think you can get them through itemization.

>>174599028
>Want to try again?
They're agreeing with you aren't they?

>>174599484
At least Futaba's body matches her lifestyle now.

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This should've been harus persona.

>>174599653
> carrots

Carrots are fucking disgusting and borderline inedible if uncooked while tomatoes go with everything and can even be eaten plainly.

>Shadow Sae

Holy shit dick = muh

>>174599065
>everyone forgets that without Morgana, Joker and Ryuji would literally be dead.

Joker had already awakened Arsene and they were on the movie. They still could have found their way out of the castle.

The bigger problem is without Morgana, they'd never learn how to steal hearts, which would mean they'd have no option but to attack and kill Kamoshida's Shadow if they didn't want to get expelled, which would have have serious consequences no matter how they reacted later.

So Sae's gonna end up going to a sperm bank so she can finally have a baby, right?

>>174599693
>Carrots are fucking disgusting and borderline inedible if uncooked
Are you a fucking mutant or something?

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>>174599726

>>174599751
If by "sperm bank" you mean my dick, then yes

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Eeeeeeeeekk! Roaches!

>>174599693

Who cares how they taste? This is for SP!

>>174599726
She looks worse than regular Sae.

>>174599693
nice taste anon
lemme guess, Ohya is your waifu? I agree yeah she's best girl

>>174599693
You got it the wrong way around

>>174599782
You think Makoto would let Sae use Joker's sperm for insemination if she asked?

>>174599635

You're probably not exploring Mementos enough since they tend up pop up in chests there. If you're just blasting through it ASAP only going once a month you probably won't get many.

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>>174599726
>>174599769
What a glorious fap that was when I first saw her.

>>174599656
No, they were suggesting the daydreamed bad ends could still be what really happened. Things like being arrested after failing to steal the heart of Kamoshida/Madarame/ect when it can't possibly happen thanks to all of the PTs talking to you as you escape Sae's casino in the start of the game.

All the 'failed deadline' bad ends in the game are fake and caused by the drug making Joker fail to remember correctly. They can't logically link back into the main timeline with it making sense.

>>174599747
They would have been Goro in that situation but depending on when they try killing the Shadow they could have saved Shiho from being raped. There's pros and cons to that scenario.

Anyway what happened to him would just be the same as any mental breakdown, what makes him so different?

>>174599383

That's not really the issue though. Izanami couldn't have picked a player in her game knowing he'd be a useless moron and never win.

She had to have some kind of result in mind for his victory, even if thanks to Namatame's flaws it couldn't happen.

>>174599913
>No, they were suggesting the daydreamed bad ends could still be what really happened.

No, they were explaining why the anon who thought thats reasoning didn't even make sense.

New P5 Translation patch when?

>>174599913
>No, they were suggesting the daydreamed bad ends could still be what really happened
But he literally said if you can't stop kamoshida you'd never become the PT and thus the bad endings can't possibly link to the interrogation.

I just got to the Hawaii trip and I haven't maxed a single confidant. I'm around 5-8 on most of them. Anyone got an estimate of how many gameplay days I got left?

>>174600032
a fuckton

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>>174600032
Not alot

>>174599635
Mementos has absolute shitloads of 'em.

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Is this the most determinedly dickish villain so far in persona?

I mean the whole assassinating/framing his rivals to allow for his rise to power is obviously not good but it makes sense, but so many of the things he does are incredibly petty, like what he did to Joker in the first place, forging a suicide note to make it seem like Futabas mother hated her, pushing in front of the kids to get onto the elevator

This is a guy who actively took a suicide pill rather than risk becoming a good person

>>174600032
Futaba shows up at like the exact midpoint

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So Goro also killed Futaba's mother without even a shred of doubt, right? I'm disappointed this was never brought up in-game.

What a fucking bastard, he's dealt so many crushing emotional blows to the team as is I'm surprised people think he could be their friend.

Kind of weird how they kept pushing Futaba and Yusuke as being a little pair yet never had them bond over their similar situations. Both their moms died and had their work ruined, but we only ever see them having these superficial arguments about dumb shit instead of actually trying to explore what their relationship could be if they got to know each other.

>>174600130
>Is this the most determinedly dickish villain so far in persona?

Pretty sure Hitler was a bigger dick, there's also Nyarly and Yaldy but they're not human so it's hard to judge them on the same scale.

>>174600153
Thank the fujos for that

>>174600153
>So Goro also killed Futaba's mother without even a shred of doubt, right? I'm disappointed this was never brought up in-game.

I don't think its outright stated, and if he did he must have been pretty young when he did so. But you'd think if Shido had someone else who could do that on his payroll it would be raised as a plot point, even if it were something like "Akechi killed Shido's previous cognitive assassin to integrate himself to daddy" or whatever.

>>174600130
>Who is Nyarly

What persona 5 girl would have the best butt crack?

tuturu~

>>174600153
as long as they're cute, gorofags are willing to forgive any psychopath

>>174600153
>without even a shred of doubt, right?
We don't have the proof that, he might be hesitated for a while since at that time he's still new to all of this. But in the end, he resolve to did his job.

>>174600153
No he didn't, there's no way Goro would do such thing

>>174600238
>Nyarly and Yaldy

Nyarly is definitely worse, but he's pretty much made of concentrated dickishness so I guess thats natural. Yaldy, while also a dick, at least seemed certain that he was doing what was right from his own perspective and I guess he did have some evidence to support him on that

we can at least say when he kills Haru's dad, there is zero remorse or hesitation there.

>>174600282
explain the criteria for best butt crack

>>174600290
I forgive Adachi though

>leave map screen open
>Joker keeps moaning
>get a boner
Why?

Example:
https://a.uguu.se/RPEGUWTBTqkg_joker.mp3

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>>174600153
G-Goro did nothing wrong!

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>rank 10 strength
>Justine starts "panting"
>text log
>replaying that audio over and over

>>174600153
How long ago did Futabas mother die?

>>174600367
Yes, but people will argue that Okumura deserved to die and Groo dindu nuffin.

>>174600423
I think it was only two years ago.

>>174600358
Shido probably also thought he was right from his own perspective

>>174600423
2 years, so pretty much after Goro became a metaverse hitman and likely his first victim.

>>174599913
>Anyway what happened to him would just be the same as any mental breakdown, what makes him so different?

He'd have a mental breakdown and either Protag and Ryuji (and Ann if she still follows them in and gets a Persona) freak the hell out and never touch the metaverse again, or they think Kamoshida got what he deserved and take to killing or mental shutdowning their targets becoming a much darker version of the thieves. Goro himself might even reach out and attempt to ally with them since they're doing the same thing he is.

Either way the whole game is different and Yaldy probably wins in the end.

>>174600368
Best butt obv

>>174600506
>Phantom theives become Kira from death note
>goro becomes L and not a bad guy who dindu nuffins

Fund it

>>174600480
>Shido probably also thought he was right from his own perspective

Maybe. He just seems so much more petty about it, I can't imagine how he'd rationalize some of his more puppy kicking moments

Heres the persona 5 items dumped from memory. Also includes key items, gifts,materials etc. but not equipment, i think.
https://pastebin.com/jb5TMLQi
Harvesting from memories much faster than looking in the files.
Also have the complete persona list but it gets a bit weird near the end, lokis also in it so i'm gonna try that a bit later via id swap.

>>174600445
>>174600480
How do we know it was two years, did someone say? I always thought Futaba was meant to be younger but then Goro can't have been too young himself.

>>174600153
This game had bad writing at times and sadly the whole Akechi confrontation at the end of shido's palace was the worst of it. The party being so nice to him did not make the slightest amount of sense

>>174600576
What do you think Persona 5 Akechi Goro is going to be?

>Check exhentai for new P5 doujins
>2 fujoshits
>one being with best boy

fuck there not even translated
>meanwhile loli twins have 50 translations
>best one still is the "joke" one

>>174600576
goro is already a mass murderer at that point

>>174600613
>P5AG is about the Phantom Thieves actually killing their targets and acw detective Akechi Goro and his woman, Sae Nijima team up to stop them

What would Saes persona be?

>>174600613
bad and gay

>>174600579
>He just seems so much more petty about it, I can't imagine how he'd rationalize some of his more puppy kicking moments

Shido isn't petty, he just doesn't care.

Goro is petty, his whole plan is to kill a bunch of people then whisper in his dad's ear "im ur son lols"

Except Shido probably wouldn't even care. Shido just wants what's best for himself, whatever will give him the most power. He doesn't care about relationships unless they're beneficial to him.

>>174600606
>at times
More like the whole last third of the game

>>174600718
>Shido isn't petty, he just doesn't care

Nah, he's actively goes out of his way to be needlessly cruel at times when he could be more efficiently evil and self serving. Honestly if it were just a case of him not giving fuck about anyone else (which he doesn't in any case) he'd probably have been more successful.

The more I think about it the more I think Shido is more deserving of respect than Akechi is. At least Shido doesn't hide from the truth and is completely upfront about being a piece of shit while Akechi constantly hides behind excuses and is generally a narcissistic sociopath

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WOW WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THE GUY YOU PUSH IN THE BEGINNING WOULD BE THE FINAL BOSS

WHATS WITH PERSONA GAMES AND SHOWING YOU THE MAIN ANTAGONIST AT THE BEGINNING

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Don't you all find it horrifying that Goro dealt such a crippling emotional blow to Futaba by killing her mother and tries to callously hurt her again by attempting to murder her newfound reason for living?

Like holy shit, even if they pull a redemption story, how would it pan out because he cannot join the Thieves outside of horrible writing.

>>174600820
Because then at least you had the potential to figure out who it was. A mystery is utter trash if you were never introduced to the culprit before their reveal

>>174600820
>WOW WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THE GUY YOU PUSH IN THE BEGINNING WOULD BE THE FINAL BOSS

Yeah, I remember shoving the demiurge in the opening

>>174600606
>he's our age so it's okay

Literally after school shounen tier writing

They also don't even apply it to other characters like the guy Haru's dad is trying to sell her off to.
>>174600832
They just pretend like it's not an issue like all the fujos already do.

>>174600718
>Fucked over some random kid for no reason other than he was pissed off
Dude's petty as fuck

>>174600832
>outside of horrible writing
there's your answer. don't expect anything decent from any spinoff

>Hating Goro is a new trend now for /v/tards

>>174600153

Goro killed her shadow, but her deciding to suicide into traffic was implied to be her own choice as a form of resisting becoming a coma patient, and Futaba's breakdown and anguish was due to Shido's clean up.

Goro pulled the trigger, but blaming the hitman isn't really blaming the real mastermind since if Goro said no Shido would have just had her assassinated conventionally like he'd done to people before Goro showed up (one of which was implied to be Makoto's father)

Hence why Futaba blames Shido first and foremost since he's the guy that actually wanted her mother dead.

>be a Musoufag
>get really into the lore behind the Three Kingdoms and the Warring States
>know that you should never ever ever ever ever trust someone with the name Akechi
Man, sucks for all of you poor fucks that got played.

>>174600832
>outside of horrible writing
Y-yeah and they'd never let that happen
>>174600893
>>174600606
I think the argument is that the cast argue he only ended up that way because he didn't have the knowledge or people Joker did. It's not an excuse but that's what the writers try to assert.

>>174600606
>>174600832

I really hope they do not go for a redemption route with Goro. I can understand the cast pitying him, even a certain amount of "There but for the grace of god go I" from some of them, but both what he's done and his motivations for doing so are so bad that no amount of sad backstory can undo them.

>>174600967
>>174600990
Feeling sorry for him is fine to an extent but asking him to be friends and join the team is batshit retarded

>>174600948
>Hence why Futaba blames Shido first and foremost since he's the guy that actually wanted her mother dead

>Sure I killed a lot of people but someone told me to, how can you blame me

>>174600902
It wasn't for no reason, it was to shut him up so he wouldn't say that Shido was trying to rape a woman. It's not an illogical choice it's just an absolutely abhorrent one

>>174600967
That'd make more sense if they didn't start freaking out the second they thought they might be responsible for Haru's dad dying. Goro just kept killing and did it deliberately.

hello waifu charts lplease :DDD

>>174601062
I know. I'm just saying that's how the writers try to rationalise the group not slinging verbal abuse at him and also Goro joining the team in P5G

>>174601062

Agreed.

The only recent comparison I can think of is what I've heard about Adachi in Ultimax. Has anyone forgiven him in that or does everyone still hate him even when he's doing (more or less) good? I haven't played it, just picked up bits of the plot on here.

>Some random guy's shadow in mementos' crime was stealing some money from banks and living in hiding
>everyone calls him an absolute piece of shit, unforgivable, how could you etc
>Akechi is a literal mass murderer
>it's not your fault you're not a bad guy i always liked you lol can we be friends? you're so much better than us
10/10 writing

>>174601163
They should just make a non-canon goro otome for the fujos since they don't care about actual games anyway then the people who know what soap smells like can move on.

Stop talking about groo holy shit

>>174600606

By telling Goro to get fucked because they don't care about his (very similar to their own) abuse at the hands of adults, because he personally stepped into their own happy bubbles they're basically being selfish jerks that are prioritizing their own happiness. That they have no empathy because he personally screwed with them.

Hence why their reaction was "You fucked up bad but we feel for you."

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Was Goro any worse than this psychopathic, lazy twenty eight year old manchild that had absolutely no excuse or reason for what he did other than his life was boring.

/pg/ went full retard after the game came out in the west

>>174601195
To be fair, they don't want him to actually join the team as much as just help take down Shido since he lead them to believe they have the same goal.

It's still shockingly bad character writing in a game where the character writing is so solid and consistent with anything not involving goro

Like they think to remember to always give Anne a juice when everyone else is drinking soda because she offhandedly remarks she doesn't like carbonated drinks but Futaba forgets that Goro killed her mom and tried to kill Joker?

>>174601302
Yes

>>174600878
>ACCURSED SON OF MAN, I WILL SUE! YOU HAVE NO MEANS OF ESCAPE

>>174601269
So Futaba should just ignore the fact that he killed her mom and feel sorry for him, otherwise SHE is the bad guy in that scenario right? Akechi fans are fucking stupid

>>174598084
She had literally no purpose.
As of P4G, yeah, her role was to spy on humans. The problem is that the entire reason why Ameno looks like a giant floating eyeball is because he already watches people, it's also why you actually see Inaba, the real one, under him during his fight. Not only that, her spying changes nothing as you still have to prove to Ameno himself that humans don't want the fog.
Her entire role was bullshitted in.
>>174598767
>and Yu got the angsty poet waifu.
I swear to god you are fucking retarded. Marie was an enirely different entity, one that could freely walk around a freely function in human world. Stop repeating that shit.

>>174601342
kek, this was way funnier than it should have been
>>174601351
that's literally not what that person said

>>174601195
They got to hang out with him its not that hard to understand and feel sympathetic anon. They never forgave him though but just wanted help to take down Shido.

>>174600153
DId he though? I always had the impression that Wakaba incident happened really long ago, and Goro started working for Shido somewhat recently

>>174601307
Nah. It's the invading /v/tards

>>174601302
at least no one actually believes Adachi was anything but a complete piece of shit. people wouldn't mind Akechi if it was the same for him

>>174601427
i thought this place reeked of newfag

>>174601421
Yeah he did. There is no one else that could've killed Wakaba, especially considering Shido's hand in it.

Goro is lucky haru and futaba didn't beat him to a pulp and spit roast him with strapons.

He got off easy.

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>>174601104

>>174601427
You don't have to keep saying this just because not everyone loves your special boy

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>>174601302

As a 28 year old with nothing to live for and got forced to live in bumbfuck nowhere I can imagine I'd get up to some shit if I suddenly got supernatural powers.

Probably not go full serial killer but selfishness combined with the power to execute on it is a pretty bad combo.

Also just to be clear, I'm not saying Adachi is excusable or that he deserves any kind of forgiveness or redemption but I do think he's a much better written character than Goro.

>>174601378
actually that person literally said that not feeling sorry for akechi would mean they have no empathy. which is an absolutely retarded thing to say on so many levels. it's literally blaming the victim

>>174601302

I'd say yes, in that Goro did more personal damage (definitely a much higher body count) out of stupidity and a need for vengeance. His motives weren't exactly better, but they were a bit more sympathetic though.

Adachi was scum but was more contained.

I guess it boils down to whether you feel worse crimes are more forgivable if there's a "better" reason behind it. If you kill 100 people because you had a bad childhood, is that better than killing 10 people because you're bored?

I liked Adachi better as a character because he had so few redeeming qualities and was fun to hate. His link in Golden was way better than Goro's too.

>>174601070

Why wouldn't you blame the guy that actually ordered the hit more? It's not like Goro deciding to be moral would make her mother any more alive. She'd just get killed in a mysterious "accident" instead.

>>174601489
Nah. You're just as worse as waifufags.

>>174601569
that's funny coming from a gorofag, the worst kind of deluded retard there is

>>174601487
fuck finally. thank you

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>>174601342

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>>174600584
So, loki has 3 IDs, one is a reserved no model that appears to overflow some shit borking the save menu, one has a model and the other is a crash to even gaze upon it's visage.
Now we know.

>>174601646
I love you

Please continue

I've been waiting for people to look through ID-related stuff for a while now

>>174601487
Fuck Tae
Marry Kawakami
Kill Ohya

>>174601545
imo Akechi has even fewer actual redeeming qualities, almost every single positive quality about him is an informed quality, we're told he's smart and handsome and charming but I never got any of that from playing the game

Adachi was an actual piece of shit who really didn't have any good qualities other than he was kind of nice to Narukami

>>174601547
You'd blame both.

>>174601427
Don't stoop to that, if you disagree do it with sensible discourse

It's like you guys don't understand that having sympathy for Akechi despite his horrible deeds is exactly why they're better than him.

"They made me suffer so fuck them" is HIS attitude. Not the PTs.

>>174601673
https://pastebin.com/ewDvuLfj
There is a direct correlation between ID number and position on this list, slot 1 id is at 0x96, it's a short so 2 bytes, big endian.
Loki 2nd entry is fine, 3rd is crash.
Coming up next, fusion.
Disregard all skills and stats shown, thats unrelated to the id.

>Kinky Kin-Ki

holy shit this is an item, kek

>>174601767
Having sympathy for the enemy is a retarded attitude in general, it doesn't make anyone a better man

>>174601767
This is a stupid outlook. They have the right to be fucking mad at him, the whole "if you kill him you'll be just like him" argument makes no sense. It's not on anyone else to bear the burden of your fuckups.