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Welcome to Sonic The Hedgehog General. Here we discuss Sonic games as well as the entire franchise including cartoons and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more!

/sthg/ #739 - Best Pals Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>Sonic News<
Archie to Send Update About the Comic to Subscribers Later in April
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/04/19/sonic-291-listed-as-cancelled-email-going-to-subscribers-about-sonic-comics-later-in-april/

Sonic Forces and Sonic Mania Nintendo Direct Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7bsS2mWDuw

Iizuka states that the 3rd character will be "unexpected" and WILL be revealed at E3 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQc6c14KHTs

Sonic Mania and Forces Famitsu Article
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/04/12/famitsu-has-released-new-information-on-sonic-mania-forces-iizuka-interview/
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/04/morio-kishimoto-is-directing-sonic-forces-no-boom-sonic-will-be-at-e3/

Sonic Runners Adventure Leaked Rumor
https://www.sonicretro.org/2017/04/sonic-runners-adventure-leaked/

>General Interest Links<
Sonic Time Twisted
https://overboundstudio.com/index.php?action=game_page&id=1

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html

Green Hill Paradise Act 2
https://mega.nz/#!bdtByBRB!QENQpUU2fzjYSs79s0Y0lR5Zx1Tt5CI6v3f-buPsUo4

The Current Archie Comic Situation
http://theamazingsallyhogan.tumblr.com/post/157126289491/sonic-the-hedgehog-scott-fulop-narrative-ark

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom-season-2

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1st for "My name is Knuckles, I'm Sonic's best friend"
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I'm burnt out on trying to play as Tails 50 times on Special Stage 5 in Sonic 4 Episode 2. If only there was some sort of counter that could keep track instead of just playing it til it pings....
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>>174539321
I like the idea of knux and him as beasties more than tails
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>>174539321
>>174539395

MY
MAN
COOL

need a gif of this
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Silver a cute.
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>>174539176
First for raaaangs
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Threadly reminder Sonic is on the right side of history. Be like Sonic! Way past cool.
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>>174539591
Silver sucks
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>>174539625
>>174536104
hey anon, here's a set piece I was toying around with.

in new york there's the famous Guggenheim museum, it's know for having a spiral walkway (pic related). I thought it would be good for Gallery dash.

I did an experiment here in 3ds max, a simplified version.

I'm guessing you might place corridor pieces end to end to make a building or perhaps you'll just make one large room.

It's not ready but what do you think?
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>"Studiopolis is a generic casino level"
This entire video makes me upset.
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>>174540229
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The are perfect for each other.
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>>174540478
Why's she look so smug though?

it's because she stole my husbando isnt it
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>>174540131
As long as there's enough elbow-room for Sonic to move about within these corridors and perhaps some railing to keep players from swerving off, then I think that this'll be a fantastic addition to the level! Well done!!
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I beat the boss and saw the credits, pressing enter closed the game. Did something fuck up, did it not register that I beat it? Why can't I access level select?
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>>174540586
>Why's she look so smug though?
Because she opens his hearth so now both finally live and learn.
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Best waifu passing through
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I made a Bump
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>>174541353
>wake up
But I want to sleep!
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>>174541350
Quite the hips.
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>>174541350
I disagree but respect your choice. Wave is a good girl and underrated.
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>>174539774
Holy shit I never knew how much I wanted this
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>>174540619
I think i'll make the path wider.

would it better if I made it tilted like here? (upper image)
also how does collision work. I've worked in UDK and in that you import objects as ASE files.
You export the asset from 3ds max, except when you do it you create an object in the scene with called 'UCX_item', the ucx being the collison. (lower image)
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>>174541853
She might as well be wearing nothing with how tight those spats are and how much she enjoys freedom
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>>174541353
What if anon was dead?
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>>174542289
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>>174542759
I'm in love
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I assume this is the best place to ask.

Does anyone here have a Sega Saturn controller? I need a little help with something.
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>>174542115
That inner-tilt should work pretty well, but I'll have to test it in-game. Luckily, for the both of us, Unity generates its own mesh colliders once you've imported it meaning, as long as it imports correctly, the colliders should match the mesh perfectly. FBX format seems to work best in my experience, but you can try exporting as your favorite model type and I'll see if it works.
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Sonic Adventure: the Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itrLTY9g9Ls
>rated R
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>>174542759
Im afraid my memories need to be refreshed
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OH FUCK
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>>174544001
Oh no! There has never been a review of the most low hanging fruit of games before! What ever shall we do?!
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>>174544001
I've watched enough people play Sonic 06 that I never want to hear about it ever again.
Every reaction and joke is the same every time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbS1Q4RjPlQ
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>>174544001
Must be getting really desperate for hits. Must be why James is doing the video and not Mike.
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>>174544001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgJ2hdh7s7Q
>NO, IT'S JUST I'M BLUE AND AM HEDGEHAWG!
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If Sonic were real would he do drugs?
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>>174545419
Nah. Speed is too slow for Sonic.
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>>174545419
was there ever a sonic version of this?
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>>174545419
Once he hit a certain age, he'd need lots of arthritic medication for his joints and probably something for the incontenence.
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>>174545727
now your pokemon are a different matter
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>>174544001
The Nerd seems to like Sonic, so I'm not worried.
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>>174542115
Is there an IRC for this project?
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>>174547189
>taking good discussion away from the thread so it can turn into a circlejerk of egos
How about fuck the hell off.
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>want to do stuff
>have to get to sleep early because of appointment next morning
I hate such days.
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>>174547337
So are you just pretending to be retarded or what?
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>>174547337
I'm trying to get in touch with someone who's compiling all this stuff into a game. I wanna try my hand at contributing some level design or voice work when I have the chance. But I have no clue who is actually working on shit.
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Tried something a little different today. Tell me what you think of the new voice.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0MTixqsfMxS
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>yfw The Sonic fanbase Isn't the most cringe worthy fandom anymore.
Thank you Steven Universe
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>>174547779
You're pretty good.
>pretty.....good......
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>>174547843
Thanks furries, undertale, epic Mickey and I'll even go as far to say overwatch too.
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>>174547984
What happened with Epic Mickey?
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>>174547843
What'd they do this time?

>>174547779
Wow that Sonic needs to slow down a little. Otherwise, it's basically really damn good.

>telling Sonic to go slow
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>>174547779
That Robotnik is top fucking tier.

Sonic sounds a little annoying imo.
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>>174548074
>What'd they do this time?
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>>174547724
This guy is a true master of art!
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>>174548220
That's been the case for a while. Not too recent.
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>>174547779
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0MTixqsfMxS

This Sonic is actually really close to the official one...
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Hey, gang! I've got something that might help streamline this whole thing:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bw9wQojS0lxpOHBEdERyNXVIeWM?usp=sharing

This here is a public Google Drive folder. Here, you may submit anything that you feel would help contribute to the project! As this is a public folder, we're gonna have to go on the Honor System here and not do anything stupid. This is your one and ONLY chance to not fuck it up. If someone deletes someone else's stuff, or anything like that, I'm tearing it all down and we'll have to figure out another way to get stuff into the game in a semi-streamlined manner.

So, if there are still any drawfriends out there working, feel free to drop some textures in the Textures folder. I'd love to see what kind of things you come up with in terms of tileable textures.
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It's 4/20 so here's Blaze!!
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>>174548559
God bless, but it only takes one ass to ruin it.

I give it a day.
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>>174548912
With the crazy progress we're making a day might be all we need. Doubtful, though.
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I remember last year someone drew some really good Tails porn and linked it, but I couldn't find the post in the VG archives. Does anyone remember that, or have it saved?
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>>174548559
Suggestion: make a second read-only as a backup in case someone deletes everything.
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>>174540746
I'm not retarded on purpose please assist.
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>>174548559
How big should the textures be?
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>>174548559
Thank you so much, I'm saving this link for later. I actually was toying with the idea of voicing Antoine D'Coolette. Are we open to Archie Sonic?
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>>174548559
>Trusting the Sonic fanbase not to fuck things up.
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Good afternoon.
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>>174550161
>Archie
Do we have to?
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http://gameloftclub.ru/novosti-i-anonsyi/gameloft-i-sega-gotovyat-novyiy-ranner-vo-vselennoy-sonika-sonic-runners-adventure.html#comment-935

Runners Adventure is releasing RIGHT NOW
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>>174550161
Wait, there are going to be NPCs?
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>>174541071
>>174540478
I miss when Tikal was the guide in Sonic Adventure 1, before they replaced her with Omochao. Her voice was actually nice to listen to and it made so much of a difference.
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>>174550161
Not him, but I doubt Antoine will be involved.
I'd be interested in hearing your impression
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>>174550539
...Well...we don't HAVE to.... I could try Knuckles? Is there a Knuckles yet?
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Why is /sthg/ always either boring as fuck or really filled to the brim with shitposting and bad ideas?
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>>174550538
I mean this would make sense if Sonic 3 was like 5% of the entire package.
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>>174550763
I have no practice doing any voice work, but I will post some attempts at various characters this weekend on the general and see how it goes.
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>>174550079
I would prefer either 512x512, or 1024x1024. No need to go crazy HD with these at this point.

>>174550161
>>174550709
If we were to include NPC's, I fear that it would take away from the focus of making a fun level. Plus, animating characters, even simple talking heads, can be a challenge. Even moreso, if someone's favorite Archie/Game character is left out of the lineup of NPC's, someone is going to ask "Why isn't Fiona/Relic/Clove here?"

It's going to be enough of a challenge getting us a good Bump model for the statue. Let's start with that.
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>>174540229
Not too bad. His arguments about using Green Hill again and the level design pathing are fine, but Studiopolis being a "generic casino level" and the barrels in Mirage Saloon "slowing you down" are easily the most retarded things I've heard in a long time. Doesn't help that his voice is kind of annoying.
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>>174551003
That implies TPP has 95% more content
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>>174551221
Just add Chao and Flickies as NPCs if you have to.
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Is the Drive even working? It looks like I'm the only person uploading anything and the music doesn't play.
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>>174551221
Well, which characters are you trying to get voiced. I'll give one of those a shot.
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>>174551705
It works if you download it and play it. The native player doesn't seem to like those tracks.

>>174551759
As of now, it looks like we already have our Sonic and our Eggman and that might be all we need.

I'm sure this goes without saying, but if you submit something to the Drive Folder, post about it here so we all know something new has dropped. If it's a texture, or something equally visual feel free to post it here too so we can get a quick look at it.
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>>174551494
Okay good fucking point.
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I usually like the AVGN and James's content as a whole, but that was very boring and run of the mill.

I hope he just did it to get the epic memers off his back and that this isn't representative of his work going forwards.
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>>174549619
>Tails porn

Oh sure, I know exactly what you're talking about.
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>>174539176
You forgot to change the previous thread.
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>>174552417
Eh, it was nowhere near as bad as your average 06 review. At least he didn't go all "WORST GAME EVER, WHAT HAPPENED TO SONIC?!" like some reviewers do.
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Would Sonic X have made more sense if Chris were a girl?
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>>174552729
Oops. It'll be fixed next time.
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>>174552007
Another question, since I'm going to try and compose some test tracks and upload them, what tone or style of music do you want this level to have? Piano solo, guitar, etc?
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>>174552729
For reference sake

>>174470064
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGC4ce_AVcc

I want Andy Turstall to make more Sonic tracks. Hopefully Sonic Mania features some.
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>>174530719
Lets just have a poll then.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12790787
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>>174552732
True, it wasn't bad, but AVGN is the only review show I watch nowadays because I expect better from him, but whatever.
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>>174552953
Now THAT is a poll-worthy question.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12790807
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>>174552417
Felt more like a classic review, without the same amount of swearing.
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>>174553364
I can't tell what you mean by any of this unless you post examples.
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>>174512080
I remember reading this but not exactly when, probably a year ago when it was posted.
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>>174553364
Are those sprayed parts of shading supposed to represent dithering?
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>>174553364
>Smooth and Silky tied with Crush 40 buttrock
How do "museum/art gallery" and "loud guitars" have any connection whatsoever?
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>>174553458
Well, Crush 40 should be obvious.
>Funky Fresh
Something like Launch Base Zone
>Ambient Trance
Something erie and haunting like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0BbwTnGYGQ
>Smooth n' Silky
Like Adventure's Casino
>Powerpuff
Lots of drums and high-intensity beats. Eurobeat would fall into this category.
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By my calculations... why the fuck isn't waifu posting going on?
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What can I do to get a bluetooth controller to work with pic related?
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>>174553976
>>174553976
I guess the word DASH makes it more upbeat I guess?

But I think of it making Smooth and silky like something you would hear at a important art museum filled with celebrities and socialites and Sonic just crashes in running thru the entire place while the pieces of art flies about.

That blue hellion is ruining art.
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>>174554278
Because we're having actual discussion
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>>174554304
"Dash" might not even be in the final name. That's just the working title. It could very well end up as "Golden Galeria," or "Museum Mayhem," or something.
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Alright. I'm gonna call voting to a close at the top of the hour. Sound good? Then we'll look at the results and, for everyone who voted "None o' these!" Please state what genre you had in mind and, if there's enough of a following, we'll consider making a new poll with it and a couple finalists from this current poll.
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Who do you think is the most handsome sonic character? No homo tough.
besides there's girls on this general
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>>174555130
shadow is lowkey very attractive

sonic is a cutie too though

And Knuckles...especially Knuckles.
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>>174555130
Shadow for sure
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>>174555130
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>>174553364
Smooth & Silky is by far is the best choice. Ideally it'd be pretty jazzy. I thought of the Casinopolis music the moment I saw the Bump statue.

https://youtu.be/FY2Ws_LjszI

That being said, Casinopolis was not a linear stage pushing you forward. There was a main area that you branched off from, and I don't think that's what we want for the level design. When you drop down into the garbage area, and it's more linear, the music picks up. This would be the PERFECT starting point for the music.

https://youtu.be/DbUnNSChvb4

I know a music artist who can produce that jazzy sound, and he's a real guitarist. We've worked on a couple of things before.
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>>174555130
Theres no girls in this general.
Only men.
HANDSOME MEN
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>>174555210
Cute. I'd like to see more boxing Amy pics.
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>>174555130
Sonic
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>>174543018
No one? Fuck.

I'll just import one from japan I guess.
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>>174555130
Isn't shadow canonially described to be handsome?
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>>174550594
>Currently 5:56 PM where I am
>No Runners Adventure.

Yeah so.......Rumor debunked.
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>Alvin Earthworm still hasn't come out from his depression stage.

>SMBZ will never be finished.
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>>174470064
Because OP screwed up the link to the last thread.
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>>174555508

That was used by Rouge to describe him in Sonic X and Sonic Chronicles which...aren't exactly that canonical.

What is canonical is how a good chunk of bios of Espio loves to point out his "cute and curly tail".
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THE SACRED BATTLE SYMBOL OF PAIN AND SORROW
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>>174552417
Honestly, it really was boring. But mostly because it wasn't really his material.
I mean, his actual complaints weren't really unique to Sonic 06, but more like about the modern gaming in general, outside of bugs and nitpicks. And the biggest problem for him was the title of the game.
He probably did this episode more because of requests or something like this, not because he wanted to.
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James Landino, one of the composers just posted that the soundtrack to STEJ will be available on 4/25 and will be available on Bandcamp, iTunes, Amazon Play and Spotify.

You can pre-order the soundtrack over on Bandcamp now for $10

https://materiacollective.bandcamp.com/album/spark-the-electric-jester-original-game-soundtrack

Artists credited on the album:
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James Landino
Paul Bethers
Andy Tunstall
Michael Staple
Funk Fiction
Falk Au Yeong
Pejman Roozbeh

I know its not Sonic. Please don't hurt me
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>>174555848
What would we do if this was our only way to attack in games, correctly completing a long sequence of touch screen controls.
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>>174555130
Eggman
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>>174555552
>Amy
>Wearing pantsu
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>>174555552
Cute!
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Aaaand DONE!

Smooth n' Silky wins! So there's your answer, >>174552953
But, for posterity, the Anon that voted "None 'o there." Care to give us an example of what you had in mind?
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>>174555552
Lewd
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>>174556189
>>174556219
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>>174555948
>There will never be a Wolf mobian in the Sonic games.
>Secretly wants Liru to magically appear in it and interact with Sonic and gang in hijynx causing them grief and injuries due to her nature.
Hold me.
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>>174556217
Okay, I guess I'll try to make a couple of smooth jazzy tracks and upload them soon.

Just to give you a heads up, the percussion might sound terrible.
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>>174556481
Anything would be great, terrible, or not. Thanks for contributing, Anon.
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>>174556217
Whoops. That was a misclick, sorry.

I voted for both Smooth and Ambient.
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>>174556773
Oh. Well. There we go! It's unanimous!
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>>174555130
Knuckles. Even before Boom he was always more barrel chested than sonic, without being HUGE. He has them badass dreadlocks and his pointed face makes him look more manly.
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>>174555130
Shadow~
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All of the people that said shadow are fujofags
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>>174555460
What is your question? I don't have one but I know a bit about them.
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>>174557116
Only fujos know who best boys are.
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Has a Sonic game ever made you cry?
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>>174557178
Damn right Shadow's voice is so sexy he would defintely be a top.
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>>174555130
Sonic of course.

>>174555380
>Killer 7
My nigga

>>174555552
Lewd!
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>>174557178
Hm?

>>174557261
No. but I cried once with a fan-made thing
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>>174557261
no, a sonic game has made me sad though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O41bpujWvz4
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>>174557534
Ugly style
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>>174558009
I can't draw that good.
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>>174558009
>Blaze will never leave a light burn on you, marking you as her lover
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>>174557534
Aren't you that Tikal guy?
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>>174558376
That's hot
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>>174558376
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It's going to be hilarious when

1) Archie doesn't release a statement by the end of the month like everyone is expecting.
2) Subs get a short, simple form letter, probably with an issue of Jughead, in a few weeks that only says "Your remaining Sonic subscription has been changed to Jughead. Please contact us if you would instead like a different series or a refund."
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What if the comic doesn't get cancelled, but changed into a graphic novels that come out every half a year?
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>>174559163
How well do graphic novels sell?
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Okay, guys. New poll. Which Sonic model should be used? Keep in mind that, assuming we have an animator on-hand, we could theoretically give custom animations to certain models if required.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12791138
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>>174558934
You all act like this is Archie's fault and that they're not going to give a shit that a 25yrold series is coming to an end.

>>174559163
That's not how comics work.
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>>174559163
As long as the graphic novels consist of some moderately context-minimal self contained stories ala Mega Man Gigamix/Megamix, I'd be all for that shit.
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>>174559389
Not Classic. Classic doesn't work in 3D. Plus we have a voice actor onboard.

Use either Modern or a custom model. I'd prefer custom, so that we can make our own Sonic design.
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>>174559414
Archie comics doesn't give a shit about anything not called Riverdale.
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>>174559389
What's the difference between of current model and Modern?
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>>174559587
The current model that's already in the engine.
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>>174559542
>so that we can make our own Sonic design
Please no.
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Hey guys...lets take the Truck from Sonic adventure 2...and put rockets on them
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>>174555130
>nobody said Tails
W-Will I catch shit if I say Tails?

because I think Tails is the most cute and handsome.
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Time to put Sonic 4 Episode 2 into the gutter. Hopefully to be never played again.

Finally got that fucking Achievement.
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>>174560154
Tails is a given.
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>>174559414
What in the last four months has given you any indication that Archie cares or will talk about a comic not currently being published?

The subs will be changed but otherwise everything will stay exactly the same as it is now. Archie won't comment on or acknowledge Sonic. Ian and the artists will continue to say they're only freelancers and won't verify whether the comic is 100% dead at Archie.

There's no "THANKS FOR 25 YEARS, SONIC FANS" letter coming. If you think there is, you're in denial the same way you were about the comic being cancelled.
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>>174559389
If I say "Adventure" or "Adventure 2", will you interpret that to mean "HD modern model but with Adventure proportions"?
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>archie sonic is dead forever
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>>174555130
Sonic The Werehog.
Alternatively, Vector, Storm and Knuckles are people which I would love to hang out and do homo stuff.
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>>174559163
But if they can do that they could also just keep releasing the comics like normal???
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>>174560154
I said Tails! >>174557526
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>Modern is currently winning by a landslide
This is honestly surprising.

>>174560380
Does such a version of the model exist? If so I'd like to see how it looks.
Let's compromise and say Adventure would mean DX's model with Dreamcast's materials, meaning not shiny.

Adventure 2 would likely be Battle's version.
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>>174560370
>What in the last four months has given you any indication that Archie cares or will talk about a comic not currently being published?

Gee, maybe the fact that they obviously never planned on cancelling it. Drop the edgy "all corporations are evil uncaring cunts" bullshit.
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I'm gonna give it until the quarter hour. It seems like Modern is going to take it, but we'll see. The clock it still ticking.
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>>174560225
For many motives that can be said over why S4E2 was bad or good, the one thing that made me throw up was not making Tails playable, EVEN if they bothered to bring back Tails and make him follow Sonic after years.

Just why? To this day, I'm still waiting for a mod that let's me play Tails in singleplayer.
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What kinds of voices or voice actors do you imagine for the voiceless characters (Mighty, Honey, etc), either based on their Archie personalities/dialogue or what little we've seen of them in the games?
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>>174554303
I'd like to know that myself.
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>>174561163
Tends to be whatever fan voices I like, usually comic dramas.
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>>174561163
I honestly think Roger Craig Smith would have been a better fit for Mighty.
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>>174561163
Aigis' voice from P3 or just her original voice from the show.
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>>174552807
It would be mildly less bad but still not good
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>>174555686
It didn't need to be rebooted in the first place. And that new Mecha Sonic looks fucking retarded.
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>>174561163
Andrea Libman for Honey
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>>174561163
>Thunderbolt or Cassia are Peridot from SU
>Clove is probably Laura Bailey
>Akhlut is Clancy Brown
>Antoine is still Rob Paulsen
>I want to say Bunnie is Rogue from the X men cartoon, but it feels off
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So I been trying out of trying something like Sonic and seen that Spark the Electric Jester came out. Then I seen this review.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/SuccinctAndPunchy/recommended/601810/
Thoughts? I never seen much venom about a indie dev until now.
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>>174561289
fuck, Aigis' P3 voice actually fits a lot
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>>174555948
Has there been any news of more updates to Wolf Girl?
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>>174561348
>All female characters are Laura Bailey
There. Done.
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>>174560406
Good. He was too OP for his own well being.
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>>174561348
Bunnie would be Ashleigh Ball.

I know >pony but goddamnit, I listen to her as AJ and can totally see her as Bunnie too.
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>>174560748
My familia

>>174560420
W-What was posted?
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What is it like to breath in the disgusting air of darkness while never losing out?
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>>174561928
Nothing, all I said was I wanted a qt 3.14 fox bf to cuddle.
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>>174562063
Smog. Choking on it. Every time your moving forward your insides ache. You can never rest when it does this. Leaving you in a stupor of coughs and fits.
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>>174561350
It's pretty fun from what I've played. I didn't enjoy it as much as Freedom Planet, but I did like it a lot. The review pretty much nails everything. I guess English isn't the dev's first language, I don't know how he doesn't pick up on this shit.
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>>174561928
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>>174561350
I feel like more and more people are judging indie titles the same way they do AAA games.
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>>174562113
And fug.
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>>174560820
Evil has nothing to do with it. Whatever has kept them from talking about Sonic is never going to change unless it resolves in a way that lets them resume publishing the books.

The only thing that's changing is the sub situation. Likely because continuing to let them sit idle wasn't tenable or because they see an opportunity to market a different Archie book to the Sonic readers. Or do you think it's a coincidence this sub announcement is happening around the same time Ian's first Jughead issue is published?
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There we go! Modern Sonic wins. That honestly surprises me. Not that I have a problem with Modern, obviously.

Now, is anyone here a skilled 3D animator? If not, we can always just try ripping existing animations from Generations and using those, but that feels a little vanilla to me. If anyone would like to take a crack at making some custom animations for Modern Sonic, go right ahead!

I'll research methods of getting the animations into Unity.
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>>174562160
I think it comes from Brits being typically critical on everything they play/touch/eat/see. I have yet to meet a friendly Sonic Brit.
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>>174562327
>Or do you think it's a coincidence this sub announcement is happening around the same time Ian's first Jughead issue is published?
There is absolutely no conceivable way they could've told Ian the book is shitcanned, assigned him to Jughead, finalized his script and finished all of the art in the span of only 3 goddamn months.
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>>174561163
Gilbert Gottfrey for everyone.
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>>174562160
The Developer is actually stationed from Brazil. In which in all honesty quite an achievement. Seeing how much funding he put towards the game's music.
Now if only he could port it onto Chowdren like Freedom Planet did. Maybe the vile reviews would lessen a bit in a more positive light.
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>>174562257
Only on occasion.
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>AMAZON SENT ME A FUCKING EMAIL SAYING SONIC MANIA CE WILL RELEASE IN SEPT 21.
The hell?
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>>174562235
Seems about right. Before, all you needed to do was be one of those guys who made a half decent game all by themselves, and have good spritework because "every game is a 3D FPS" and retro platformers are cool. The novelty of indie games has worn off at this point, so now people are looking more at the actual design of the game instead of just "WOA THERE'S SPRITES AND IT'S ONLY MADE BY A FEW PEOPLE"
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>>174562787
Placeholder.
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transgender sonic character when?

also should it be an animal that changes sex, like a clown fish.
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>>174562614
...You have a very poor grasp of how long it takes to make a comic.
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>>174562406
I can animate in Maya and SFM. I can probably figure out how to do it in blender or something but I currently don't know how to do that.

Also shoot, I didn't even see the post to vote for which sonic. I woulda voted classic.
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I heard of implications of fox fugging.
Am I too late?
>inb4 I get banned again for literally nothing.
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>>174562954
The fuck outta here.
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>>174562464
I like brits, they're either snarky fukwits or pretty chill people.
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Why aren't we Blaze posting? It's 4/20.
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>>174562752
Who is he looking at and what is the source of that image?
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>>174562790
More like "I don't care that it was made by one guy and only costs $15, I'm still going to judge your shit like Gordon Ramsey"

It's a lot easier to shit on a game and its devs when it was made by a big fuckass company with millions if not billions in the bank. That kind of cynicism for a humble indie project makes you look like a douche.
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>>174562752
o god i feel funny
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>>174560370
this. they said mega man was on hiatus and ian kept saying it's not dead. same deal with sonic. we should just accept it and move on. it had a good run and at least they finished a big story arc after the reboot.
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Welp. Cya later guys.
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>>174563251
Most of us are above the age of 12.
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>>174563124
I hope I meet a chill brit soon. It just seems like as a foreigner in their land they aren't really nice people. Are they bought up to be so venomous and snarky?
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>>174563594
I've never been to Britain but they seem to act like average citizens of earth on the internet.

It's people from Central and North America who act a bit weird desu
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>>174563251
We did it earlier
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>>174563594
>>174563801
Different viewpoints and experinces in socializing with people from different continents I suppose.
Each continent has their own way of bringing people up and both US/UK have their differences of schooling their children.

UK is much more critical then that of US. US is lax in the past but now it seems due to recent events teaching as gotten much more stricter in schools.
Take what you will. Don't expect alot of new people to be all Roses and Rainbows when you first meet them. If they don't like you. Just simply continue on your way. If they critique you. Then take their main points of the Critque and improve upon them. Or don't. You don't simply have to take shit from other people with what they offer you in the first place.
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>>174539176
> Playing Final Fortress
> Lost all lives twice
> 25 minutes per attempt
> Hour+ of my live gone
How the fuck can this game be so bad?! Literally how the fuck?! Who playtested this piece of shit?
The fucking rail section toss you into empty space! There are no rings. The controls glitch everywhere. 3 minute long rails of doing nearly nothing but waiting on tenderhooks for the jump to make it this time. No Knuckles level ups so the big robots take 2 minutes of hit/hit wait each.
What the fuck. I can see why Sega didn't release this on steam. This is WORSE than 06. At least it was CLEAR 06 was a broken glitch fest. Heroes is playable enough to lead you in and WASTE an hour of your time on its shitty level designs. Holy fuck. One anon could mod these levels into something playable but as it stands they're TWENTY MINUTES LONG?!
WHO THE FUCK MAKES A 20 MINUE LONG SONIC LEVEL

RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>174564191
git gud
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>>174563020
You can find the Generations model here: https://www.models-resource.com/pc_computer/sonicgenerations/model/4052/

If you could animate in Maya, that'd be fantastic. Think you're up to it?

We would need:
>Idle
>Jog
>Run
>Max Speed
>Spinning
>Fall Up
>Fall Down
>Hurt
>Skid

And I think that's all of them.
I will continue trying to figure out how to get the original, ripped animations into Unity.
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>>174564397
I uploaded a new music track to the folder if anyone wants to give it a listen. Told you the percussion would suck, but this is my first time trying.
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>>174564191
Jesus christ, I beat that game easily at 14. Just give up playing video games, you fucking suck.
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>>174564465
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>>174564465
I like it, but it's too slow. It doesn't sound like Sonic. This is meant to be a real level, not a walkaround gallery.
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>>174564885
Really? I thought it was both, like a Yooka-Laylee level or something.
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>>174563549
http://i.4cdn.org/trash/1492691024451.png
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>>174565042
>Amy's a slut

>but Rouge isn't
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>>174565042
>She's a slut, and you should feel bad
How dare you, you gay cow.
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>>174561350
>developer responded in a butthurt fashion
Nicely done.
When is Freedom Planet 2?
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>>174564397
Oh, so are we gonna use this model instead of making one? Just wanna know if this is for test or if you want these to be the final version.
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>>174541353
>tfw I requested that some time ago
Th-thanks

What's the logo on anon's pajamas?
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>>174565642
Yeah. We're gonna use the Generations model and, if you want to, you can try making some custom animations for it on top of, hopefully, getting the Generations animations in there as well.

I would be curious to see what a proper Peel Out animation would look like with his model, wouldn't you? Like a proper Sonic OVA peelout. Not that sissy one that Lost World used.

But before you do anything, please allow me to do what I can to get things set up here in Unity. Then we can talk about custom animations.
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Where is the new video, meme man? You said there would be videos.
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>>174564646
>>174566217
Submitted a remix of Astro Man from MM&B. That's the kind of direction I'd personally prefer to go with. Still smooth and mystical, but with guitar.
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>>174564465
I really like this a lot. But like >>174564885 said, it's a bit slow.

That said I could totally see taking elements from this and putting it in a stage. Or maybe have it be a theme for a special zone, or menu or something because I would HATE to not use this song.
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Gimme your opinion on Sally x Sticks.
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>>174566663
Shitty Ship

Better if it was Sticks X Marine
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>>174540478
>pinky out
Look at this refined motherfucker, truly the ultimate dinner guest.
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>>174566338
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"Anyways have you folks seen my fishing rod anywhere? I need some fish. Going on a long adventure see."
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>>174566217
I REALLY want to animate a bunch of little easter eggs in sonic's animation. That said I feel like the model may be too big to properly import...or at least animate affectively. I'll try it out and see.

I may actually have to shrink the model and also add my own custom controls for the model.
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Proposal:

Would it be strange to have other Sonic models on display in the museum as small statues? I thought it'd be neat to have our playable Modern Sonic standing next to a polygonal Jam Sonic statue.
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>>174567249
They did it in Generations and I didn't find it weird.
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Enough games. Is this a mostly-linear level like SA1, a super-expansive yet still technically linear one like GHP, or an entirely non-linear affair like Yooka-Laylee?
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>>174567075
>The new character is Big reintroduced from his massive weightloss.
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>>174567526
I'm willing to bet some rings we're going to have to strawpoll that, because I think everyone has a different answer.
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>>174567195
I may have a lead on Discord. Somebody says they're gonna help me out and get me the basic Generations animations. Once I get those working in Unity we'll take it from there and see if we can't get some custom animations rolling. Hang loose, brah.

That reminds me:
I'm still looking for some Drawfriends to make some stylish textures. Any takers?

>>174567526
I would very much prefer this to be a linear, single-level, point A to point B experience. I don't have 8 months to pour into this thing like I did with GHP. I don't even think I have 8 weeks.
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I only now just found out that Batman: The Animated Series and Sonic 3 & Knuckles use the same font.
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>>174567763
Well then that renders my concept art unfitting, cool.
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>>174565109
Bueno.
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>>174563251
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Stay funky fresh /sthg/
https://youtu.be/a78zSOM1w7k
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>>174567763
Well I shrunk the model. I'm gonna throw the textures on it and see if I can mess around and add some controls. If I can add controls to this It'll be much easier for more animators to animate.
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>>174567763
Well then >>174564465 definitely doesn't fit. Fuck.
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Wow, im liking Spark the Electric Jester. Though, in my opinion, it could be a bit more challenging. Then again, I must still be in the beginning
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Did "Spunky" finally leave?
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>>174568248
Wait til you get to your third Playthru.
1st playthru is easy.
2.nd is intermediate
3rd is tough
4th is basically skill based challenges.
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>>174564931
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>>174567950
Are you kidding? If you're talking about this then you are very much mistaken. This artwork may not be an exact blueprint of the level design, but the ideas it portrays are still VERY much relevant.

>>174568204
I don't see how. The music is a fine start in my opinion.

If you know my work then you know that when I say "Point A to Point B" I'm certainly not implying that it'll be Unleashed-levels of linear. I'm thinking more Adventure-like. Perhaps even a bit more free than that. Just not GHP-levels of "See that mountain? You can run up it."
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>>174557116
Nope I ship him and Maria
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>>174564342
>>174564623
Fuck off with your "git gud2 horseshit, this game is a pile of ass. There is no getting good. It's a fucking crapshoot every level, and every level is an endurance test.
I'm literally bored going through these levels over and over only to die on a glitchy rail 15 minutes in. It's fucking terrible.
This is true nadir of Sonic Team. Had a half working engine and even gameplay style but fucked up the controls and the level design.
I haven't played a game this bad since the 2000s.
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>>174568476
Do you mean Sparky the Autistic Hedgehog?
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>>174565042
What about blaze?
Scourge?
Silver?
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>>174569121
Stop! If you say his name you might summon him!
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>>174568935
what are you doing here, elliot? shouldn't you be helping john?
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There are nowhere near enough people pressing F for Archie Sonic.
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>>174568935
Again, I beat it as a child for fun with no problem. You just suck ass faggot.
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>>174568714
>The music is a fine start in my opinion.
Eh. It's still too calm and slow. This isn't an atmospheric level like Ice Cap, it's a museum full of robots and Eggman shit-talking you over the intercom.

I think we should hold off on music until there's something significant to play. Music in a video game should only be started when the composer plays the level and gets a feel for it.
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>>174569216
Its been four months. I've lost track of how many F's I've pressed.
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>>174568935
Maybe you need to quit being a bitch.
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>>174564191
>>174568935
what version are you playing? i've literally never had rail problems on PC. I hear PS2 version is actually ass and has a number of glitches.
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>>174569208
That's not fair, Elliot never game overed
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>>174569216
Archie got what was coming to them To be fairly honest.
Sonic should be a free media to where another comic book company should tackle into making much more stories tying into the games in the future instead of its own separate thing. I blame the writers they hired and I blame some of the artists that they had.
This is just me saying as a Gaming Sonic Fan that the Archie Comics it was basically the same retelling of stories over and over with some foreseeable twists here and there.
You know it to be true. Don't deny it.

Also what furry Sonic Girl poster do you think Travis should put up on his wall?
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>>174569216
I don't care about Archie Sonic, so.
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>>174569191
I haven't left. But honestly, I've been paying slightly less attention to what goes on here, because my focus is split between work I should really be doing, and Undertale ideas and stuff.
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>>174558376
I never knew how much I wanted this

>>174563024
>filename
Why lie, anon?
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>>174303938
>>174304602
I'm several threads too slow and not that anon, but I think you'll like the articles on SS & DC:
http://www.goodcowfilms.com/farm/games/segabase_archives/index.htm
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>>174569529
I genuinely thought Archie saved the Unleashed storyline. And the non-game stories were some of my favorites. I really hope whatever comic comes next doesn't take the game storyline as set in stone, because I honestly prefer the comic versions.

Also, obviously Rouge.
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>>174569386
The PS3 downloadable. They put zero effort in. I think they literally just stretched the screen from the 4:3 aspect ratio. Everything about this screams mediocre.
Like, there's a game in here. But it's like it was handed to the EA interns or some bullshit.
This reminds me of how the dark age was and why the Sonic cycle was a thing. It was fucking real and people bitching about the modern games since Colors have no idea what an actually awful Sonic game looks like.

I need a drink.
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>>174570073
What a whiny boy.
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>>174570073
Download the GameCube version and play it on Dolphin and see if that changes your mind.

Chances are Sega just took the shitty PS2 version and gave it an even shittier half-assed port to put on PS3. This isn't new, look at all the shit they've done to the Adventure games over the years.

I won't deny that Heroes is overall mediocre, but judging it based on a shitty PS3 port is like judging Sonic 1 by the GBA port.
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>>174569843
Thanks man. And I say that as one of the people you are giving a you to several threads later.
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>>174570073
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>>174570073
It's a fine game, you just got stuck with a shit port which may or may not also be affected by your less than stellar taste.
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>>174569216
We did it back in January when the first customer service call got posted.
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290 isn't all that bad to be honest.

If you add all the subseries and the spinoffs Sonic had well over 750+ issues of Sonic made
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On the development of Sonic Mania:

>The dev team, SoA producer, and Iizuka are constantly in contact. The dev team brings up the concept first in text messages, then Iizuka corrects them. The dev team then designs the levels based on these correction(s), and Iizuka looks at it again to add adjustments to such as ring placement, terrain shape, etc.

>”There were no discrepancies between my idea and theirs. On the contrary, since all of the dev team members are the mania of manias (that is to say, really huge fans in the community), they really know the points well. Creating 2D Sonic’s levels requires a lot of skills, but to my surprise, they create good maps since they know the past games so well."

>Q: “And all of the know-how you've accumulated by today are then poured into these levels, right?”
>A: Iizuka: “Yeah, that’s right. *smiles shyly* I'm the only one left from the project team from the Mega Drive Sonic era, so I think this is the perfect project for me.”

>”The 2D graphics are made almost completely with dotted pixel art. Characters’ movements are made of each movement pattern, and backgrounds are drawn after their BG-rules. Anything more wouldn’t fit for the game's concept, even if using today’s polygon technology would be much easier than drawing each pixel. A small amount of polygons ARE used for better expression, but to keep the concept of making the continuation of ‘Sonic the Hedgehog’ of that time, we almost only use pixels."

Looks like more of the Famitsu interview came out. This is gonna be a long one.
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Would Sonic and Amy split or would one of them get greedy for 1 million rings?
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>>174569872
>Like Sonic.
>Don't like the things Sonic is actually about.
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>>174571592
Little did everyone else know that Iizuka is the shittiest memeber of the Sonic Team OG crew.
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>>174569720
It's literally not porn though.
Suggestive, definitely. But it's not outright porn.
Getting banned for something like this is like being banned for posting any webm with Bayo in it.
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>>174569529
I'm not a comic fag but c'mon man, the story telling in the comics is far better than in any of the games. And even if another company picked them up, I think it's unlikely that the comics and the games would tie in.

I think even the Boom comics are separated from the Boom games, and that was a whole new series made specifically to tie into this new spin-off series SEGA felt like making.
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>>174571962
>the story telling in the comics is far better than in any of the games.
Tonight I will remind you.
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>>174570073
>>174570501
There is no official port of Sonic Heroes to the PS3. Chances are it's just a PS2 port, game doesn't show up on the NA store.
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>>174569872
>I genuinely thought Archie saved the Unleashed storyline.
???
The Unleashed storyline was a fucking trainwreck of characterization and motive/goal establishing along with a crapton of repeated plotlines.
Literally half the fucking issues in the arc was "Sonic or FF chases after an Emerald/Temple to get it before Eggman."
Sonic didn't have any personality outside of action scenes.
Amy's powers became completely overbearing.
Tails was essentially useless outside of one fucking action sequence.
Sally did nothing but talk.
Bunnie did nothing.
Antoine did nothing.
Rotor did nothing but have daddy issues.
Chip was completely fucking inconsequential.
Meanwhile Ian shoves a shit ton of OCs and old characters in our face all for the sake of world building.

I don't see how you could say that the Unleashed storyline was "saved by the comics" when the Unleashed storyline was already enjoyable and had more characteristics and storytelling capacity than the entire Comic arc had in it's 3 years of telling it.
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>>174569216
>>174569326
>>174570896

Yeah, this has been a long time coming. Even back then I wasn't surprised, Archie's been shaky ever since the infighting over who gets the company was revealed, and Archie Sonic has been dealing with legal trouble for years.
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>>174572102
At it's absolute worst the comics are worst stories in any Sonic media, but at their best, their true best, they're the absolute best. I honestly think that the comics, more than anything, even the games, represent the insane highs and insane lows this franchise can reach
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>>174572102
Tonight, I will offer a rebuttal.
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>>174572287
The Unleashed arc was basically just filler.
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>>174571816
Oh, thought it was the one where she had tits, carry on.
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>>174572342
Elise is hotter than Sally.
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>>174571649
You can like gameplay, character design, environments, music, etc. without liking a game's story, or at least thinking an adaptation's story is better.
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>>174572287
>Bunnie did nothing.
>Antoine did nothing
>Rotor did nothing but have daddy issues.
To be fair, they've never done anything. They're completely useless characters
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>>174572312
>I honestly think that the comics, more than anything, even the games, represent the insane highs and insane lows this franchise can reach
But the comics spent most of it's life NOT representing the Sonic franchise and instead, Star Trek's.
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>>174566030
You must've inspired me in spirit, anon.

The logo is just a little Sonic head, I should've given it the emblem design or something.
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>>174572287
>Sally did nothing but talk.
Like I said here >>174572469
She's always done that. Her entire purpose in the comics was to be a nag and at one point, a love interest
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>>174572410
>Oh, thought it was the one where she had tits, carry on.
You can't just say this and not give me sauce anon.
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>>174567249
For some reason, I imagined an "Evolution of Man" style thing with all of the previous Sonics leading up to Boom Sonic
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>>174572729
Awesome!
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>>174572469
Bunnie and Antoine boinked at least once.
Also they got married, but who cares about that?
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>re-reading through the comics
>get to this issue
>notice that little box at the bottom

It's not fucking fair
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>>174572915
How is that relevant to the story?
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>>174572421
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>>174572918
I honestly wanted more Metal Sally. Hell, I wanted more Eggman victories.
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>>174572915
I meant storywise. Bunnie is pointless outside of angst, and once Antoine stopped being a coward, he lost the only relevant thing about him. If anything, the comics should've emphasized his cowardice more, made him the designated comedic relief character nobody in universe likes.
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>>174572410
>>174572746
>>174572915
So can I ask why people like these characters and think they are good ones when a majority of the time they are literally just filler characters?
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>>174572421
Fantastic taste.
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I've never read the comics, where should I start? I don't mind going trough the shitty ones, I'd just like to know what's the earliest one.
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>>174572421
I refuse
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>>174573112
Nostalgia and for Sally and Bunnie, they're thinking with their dicks. Nobody likes Antoine. He has no character outside of being a coward, and once he lost that, he lost the only character trait he had. I guess you could fix them if you reworked them heavily, but it'd change them pretty drastically. I'd personally reduce them to NPCs who ask Sonic to solve their problem, he does so, and then they're never seen again
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>>174573180
>I don't mind going trough the shitty ones

Number 1 it is then, dear anon
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>>174573112
The only Archie/SatAM character who does a damn is Nicole.
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>>174573025
>being attracted to a bitch rat
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>>174568935
I was able to beat the game when I was 12 but I still agree with your criticisms for the most part.

The game was significantly harder than the other 3D Sonic games (not counting 3D Blast) at the time. I remember getting stuck at whatever the forest level was for a long time because the level just went on for way too long and not flying off of loops and the vines was too difficult. Egg Fleet was also unnecessarily hard as well. I get that it's the final action stage and it needs to be hard but jesus it feels outright unfair at parts. The game just feels cheap at times.

I agree that most of the levels were boring and it's only made worse by having to play each one 4 times. All of levels are so visually uninteresting besides the ocean level and grand metropolis. Those were fantastic but everything else felt generic and boring. Casino level with the worst pinball physics in any video game I've ever played, bland looking canyon level, boo haunted house, admittedly cool looking sky level that's ruined by tedious enemy fights, etc.

I disagree about the rails being glitchy though. I played the Gamecube version. I remember rails mostly working and rarely ever flying off and dying while trying to switch. I know in another post you said you played the PS3 version. The PS2 version was horrible so I can't even imagine what the PS3 version is like. Sega isn't known for fixing glitches when they port and rerelease games.

so yeah I don't know why this post got so long. I just wanted to tell you I agree that Sonic Heroes is a bad game and I don't understand how anyone can defend it.
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>>174573159
>Sonic fans
>not furfags
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Been a while since we've seen this arguement. Interesting in that this guy types the same, kinda like Sparky's autism.
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>>174573297
Even then, she's a glorified Siri. She's useless. Tails could just modify the Miles Electric and it'd be better than her
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>>174573329
>Fur
No thanks. Im more into Wave
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>>174571592
”The resolution is set at the level where one can recognize each pixel, and the colors are limited too, even if it doesn’t matter for today’s games. The background also has parallax scrolling, and even if the foreground and background layers, etc., don’t mean anything, we intentionally limit the technology. We've set our standards similar to that of the ‘Saturn’, and there are a little more colors than Mega Drive’s 16 colors and 4 palettes. However, the characters' movement patterns are filled to make them look more smoothly, since it would be too sparse if everything was exactly the same as it was in that era.

>Kazuyuki Hoshino, an art director and character designer for Sonic Team since Sonic CD, is supervising the graphics.

>Each character’s moveset is that of Sonic 3's.

>While playing as Sonic, Tails will follow him; if you have another controller you can also control Tails as a 2nd player. It’s also possible to fly together with Tails.

>The level system is also similar to Sonic 3; the starting point of the same level will differ according to the character you play. For example, when you choose Knuckles, you start from a place where wall-climbing is necessary.

>The Shields' effects are also the same as in Sonic 3. There are 3 of them: Flame, Aqua, and Thunder. Flame and Thunder invalidate fire and thunder attacks, respectively, and with Aqua. you can breathe underwater. Also, with each Shield, you can perform a unique action.

>“There will be huge objects which were not possible to create with the Mega Drive.

On the posters of Espio, Fang, Bark, Bean:

>“They don’t appear in the Classic Sonic series, but they were in the stage when I noticed. *lol* Everyone in the dev team love Sonic too much, and they put these kind of Easter Eggs in every place possible. For example in Studiopolis, a sign on the building in background looks like Club SEGA. *laughs*"
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>>174573301
>not being attracted to the best ass in the franchise
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>>174573329
Not all Sonic fans want to fuck rabbits and cats.
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>>174573367
Boost is shit, though.
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>>174573270
It goes further back than that.
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>Be writefag
>Finished 999
>Thought of idea to insert cast of Sonic into the world of the nonary games.
Sonic, Amy, Tails, Knuckles, Espio, Rouge, Vector, Shadow, and Eggman
>Have no Idea who Zero will be.
FUG and I had it going so well too!
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>>174573476
YOU'RE WRONG YOU TWO-TAILED LITTLE TROUBLEMAKER!
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>>174573424
>Being attracted to this
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Mario 3D World's Mario model is 9,128 polygons
Mario and Sonic Rio's Mario model is 10,656 polygons
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>>174573478
Well fuck my ass, I never read this one
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>>174573606
>being attracted to a plank of wood
I'm gonna need Ireland to leave.
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>>174573270
>>174573478
Are these part of the same story as the ones everyone praises?

Also they're just called sonic the hedgehog, how should I look for them specifically?
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>>174573606
I prefer the post reboot design, not to mention the lack of everything that butchered her character in the pre boot.
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>>174572805
Check /trash/
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>>174573637
It's the first in a three issue miniseries that introduces all of the early players (Sonic, Uncle Chuck, Robotnik, the Freedom Fighters, etc.).
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>>174573748
Wait, so what about this one?
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>>174573670
The mini series (The 2nd link) is not good for much outside of being the actual first comics

Issue 1 is where to start, and yes, from there to 247 (And all the spin off comics) is one continuity.

Readcomiconline.To is your friend, as is the Mega in the links pastebin in the OP.
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>>174571592
I'm a sucker for JP news but the way they posted this is retarded.
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I want Iizuka to explain the EXACT reason why Mighty, Fang, Bean, Bark, and Ray can't appear in new games.
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>>174573798
shit
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>>174573925
Probably forgot about them. I also don't want him touching Mighty. Mighty is too good in the comics to end up being done better by them.
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>>174573670
http://archiesonic.wikia.com/wiki/Archie_Sonic_Miniseries_Issue_0

Read those till you get to issue 3, then you move on to

http://archiesonic.wikia.com/wiki/Archie_Sonic_the_Hedgehog_Issue_1

Also god damn, I forgot the miniseries was four long, with an issue 0.
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>>174574002
>Mighty is too good in the comics to end up being done better by them.
He's Sonic 2.0 in there. I want Sega to go with Mighty's bio in Knuckles Chaotix with him being a pacifist who loves traveling.
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>>174574118
>He's Sonic 2.0 in there. I want Sega to go with Mighty's bio in Knuckles Chaotix with him being Sonic 2.0
ftfy
I'd rather him be a total bro with enough super strength to lift an Xbox original than actual Sonic 2.0.
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Remakes of Master System Sonic when?
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>>174571592
>>174573413
>When I say mania are the target, it doesn’t mean that the game is for professional gamers only. The goal is to let every fan of classic Sonic have fun playing it, so it doesn’t require any special gaming technique. The difficulty isn’t our aim. Because I want people to enjoy every stage, I don’t plan to provide difficulty levels.

>The new action “Drop Dash” was prepared for core gamers who want to time attack stages. In the Classic series, the character needed to come to a halt before performing the Spin Dash, but we thought it was necessary to add an action that works more instantly. We will provide a leaderboard for Time Attack, so that everyone can compete online.

>”Like in the later stage of classic Sonic games, there will be routes only reachable with Tails’s flying or Knuckles’ wall-climbing, so the levels will be huge. Though we try not to create too complex and mean routes. The level difficulty is rather low that some team members say hey could become a bit more challenging.”

>Since this is the Classic series’s continuation, the game is set after Sonic 1 to 3 & Knuckles. In these games, Dr. Eggman appeared as the boss, but this time, the ‘Hardboiled Heavies’, the new characters created by Eggman, will stand in the way of Sonic and co. in the stages.

>They are robot army based on Eggman Robots of ‘Sonic & Knuckles’, and each one has different character. They are Eggman’s subordinates, but if they will stay in this position until the end or not… you’ll see. *grins*

>Although past stages are used, the game does have a story. This ‘story’ is, like in ‘Sonic 3’, made only of character movements, like a doll theater, without any dialogue from start to end.

>Old stages have their original music and its arrangements. New stages have new music. They are made with the same specification as earlier, o that the ‘Classic taste’ doesn’t fade away.
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>>174573925
Probably just has no attachment to them.

The best bet for any of them really appearing again would be in Mania/Classic Sonic sequels, as I bet they'd be classified as Classic-only characters.
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>>174574445
>They are robot army based on Eggman Robots of ‘Sonic & Knuckles’, and each one has different character. They are Eggman’s subordinates, but if they will stay in this position until the end or not… you’ll see. *grins*
Sonic fights Eggman as the boss of the penultimate stage, then the Heavies betray him, then Christian finally gets to have his boss rush stage, then they all combine together to form some kind of large super-robot as the final boss.
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>>174573810
>>174573983
>>174574038
Ok, so, the one called just "Sonic the hedgehog" is the main line, right?

I take it not all of these are related to it, and things like the Sonic X and Boom thingies are completely separated. Is there an ideal order or moment to start reading the spin off's that ARE related? Or I can read them whenever I feel like it? And which ones of these are those?
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>>174574445
>the ‘Hardboiled Heavies’, the new characters created by Eggman, will stand in the way of Sonic and co. in the stages.
Eh.
>They are Eggman’s subordinates, but if they will stay in this position until the end or not… you’ll see. *grins*
Oh boy, they're gonna rebel or something just like everything else Eggman makes.
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>>174573925
We can only guess for now, but

>Mighty
Unless he gets a redesign, he's just too similar to Sonic visually. I know, I know, Shadow gets to stay around, but he's actually popular.

>Fang
The fact that the region where Sonic is more popular knows him by a completely different name is only half of his problem. He had a gun back when that wasn't okay in this franchise, and honestly Sega might not want another Sonic character to focus on them after the reaction to Shadow the Hedgehog.

>Bean, Bark
Again, very obscure. Bean is a joke on a game most people aren't familiar with to boot. Doesn't help that they were designed for Sega-AM3 games, rather than Sonic Team games.

>Ray
The only character more obscure than Honey.
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>>174570802
>It's a fine game
No it's not. There's no reason for the stages to be so long and the controls are shit. One playtest would have been enough to confirm it needed major work.
The Amy stages are actually OK but everything else is a drag. The bosses are especially poor and I'm seriously thinking Sega most have lost serious talent either at the end of or after the Dreamcast era. Why did Nintendo even OK this?

>>174572213
My mistake. It's a PS2 classic. But from what I'm reading the original suffers most of these issues as well.
It's bad. The team mechanic is OK, but the controls are shoddy, and the level design should be in textbooks of how not to do things. (Endless bottomless pits, glitchy automatic transitions, rails and cannons that fire you into dead air)
There's a game there, but it's like the team made every effort to troll people into putting it down.
Fuck Sega man. They know autist fans are just going to buy this shit and they made no effort to fix anything.

>>174573302
> I was able to beat the game when I was 12
Maybe that's the reason. 4 fucking teams, 10+ 15 minute levels. These fucking challenges are a purgatory. Maybe Sega set out to craft a game that could sate the autism of the playerbase.
The first beach level was actually OK. I just though I'd reached a hump of bad levels, but really it's almost the whole game. Yeah, it's bad. It's needs to be analysed and understood as bad and this knowledge pass on to future generations so this never happens to Sonic again. who am i kidding.
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>>174574681
Someone get the reading list for this man

Might as well list the relevant ones
>Sonic the Comic
Not relevant to anything. It's an entire seperate continuity
>Sonic X and Sonic Boom
Their own things entirely. Not relevant

>Sonic Universe
Covers characters like Shadow, Knuckles, Blaze, and Silver in stories seperate from what Sonic's doing at the time

>Sonic Select and Comics spectacular
Irrelevant. Just reprints
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>>174573925
Most people here can explain, no reason for them to.
Putting characters in games just for the hell of it is what brought down Sonic's rep for years, throwing in some unmemorable nobodies would hurt Sonic.
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>>174574118
>Sonic 2.0

he's not even, though.
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>>174574945
>mfw I actually don't mind long stages, and prefer them immensely over the 3 minutes of running you get in Generations
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>Why did Nintendo even OK this?
Oh please, Nintendo don't give a fuck.
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What the fuck do I do about this?
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>>174574945
No one cares that you're shit at the game, fuck off
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>>174574681
Sonic the Comic, X and Boom are the only ones in separate continuities, and even then X crosses over in its last issue while Boom crosses over during the second Sonic/Mega Man crossover. Sonic the Comic is a completely separate UK comic done by a different company. Everything else is side-series, mini-series and other assorted specials, all set within the same continuity.

If it's any help, the clusterfuck of side comics is mostly only a problem in the early years. All of the mini-series and single-issue specials end before issue #50 of the main Sonic, the Knuckles comic ends before issue #80, and the last quarterly special ends somewhere in the #90s. After that it's just the main Sonic comic for a good 100 issues until Sonic Universe starts up.
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>>174575176
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAA
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>>174571592
>>174573413
>>174574445
On the delay of Sonic Mania to Summer 2017:

>”The dev team members’ commitment is so high that the development is being delayed more than originally planned at the beginning. They are also mania, so they want to put many things into it. Normally, when we set our schedule, we calculate back from the due date to estimate the time available for one stage, but later, there were too many things we wanted to add to the original plan.”

>We try our best not to delay the release, for example, by adding more staff, but the dev team members are very particular about the game. I’m sorry to make you wait, but please look forward to it.

>The core staff originally included 2 programmers and 3 graphic designers. This small team was, however, expanded as development was taking too long

>The project started out like an indie game, thus a small team. This is also the reason why the product will be a digital download, which is cheaper than a normal physical copy. I hope this makes it easier for people to buy the game. Please play it.

>Platforms will include PS4, Xbox One, and Nintendo Switch. The Switch has two individual controllers, so if you hand one to another person, you can play it as 2-players anywhere.

>The collector’s edition, for which the pre-order has already ended in US and Europe, includes a Classic Sonic statue standing on a base shaped as real-sized Mega Drive. This Mega Drive will call out the sound logo ‘SE-GA-’ if you switch it on, and the cartridge has a gold ring hidden inside. *laughs*

>It's not decided yet if the Collector’s Edition will be sold in Japan, but they are thinking about it.
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>>174575176
collect all the chaos emeralds and time stones
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>>174575176
>"in development" for 12 fucking years
>still has fatal crashes
The fuck? I understand it's just a fangame that's probably been worked on intermittently, but that's just bad form.
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>>174575176
Collect all the chaos emeralds and time stones.
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https://youtu.be/lcE4-6QGgpc

What if Sonic had a Persona 5 Plotline and he was the MC leading the Phantom Theives, gets captured. Gets grilled by Madonna of G.U.N while he retells his story of how he and his group of friends become the few that changed the hearts of many.
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>>174575346
>The project started out like an indie game, thus a small team. This is also the reason why the product will be a digital download, which is cheaper than a normal physical copy. I hope this makes it easier for people to buy the game. Please play it.

Still not a solid reasoning as to say WHY A CLASSIC SONIC TITLE ISN"T GETTING A FUCKING PHYSICAL CART/CD

You have the fucking money Iizuka. You are not fooling anyone you jap fuck jew
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>>174575447
>>174575419
Yes no shit, but the game crashes at the ending and I can't level select because it crashed.
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>>174574957
>>174575293
So I can read all the Archie mini series in whatever order I feel like before getting to issue 100 of the main series? Alright.

Are Sonic Live and Sonic: Megadrive also part of the Archie continuinity?
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>>174575604
Its not worth the risk.
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>>174575176
That's a lot of ram, man.
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>>174575698
Not in any order. There's a specific reading order, especially when it comes to Knuckles. Because the Knuckles mini is a precursor to 32 issues of echidna bullshit

>Sonic Live
Yes, but it means absolutely fucking nothing and you can skip it
>Mega Drive
Part of the reboot continuity but it can be read on its own, and is most likely meant to be
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>>174575698
Sonic Live is Ken Penders shit. Don't read it unless you like Self Insert shit.
Sega Megadrive is part of Archie but not of the main storyline of Sonic the Hedgehog. Basically its a different retelling of the video games set in the classic days.
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>>174575346
Man, that thumbnail made me think of a very old Iizuka, senile and clutching a torn Sonic plushie.
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>>174575746
If they plan on alienating their fanbase with their logic that Digital only is the way to go then I hope Sega as a business can burn in hell along the rest with Capcom, Nintendo, Konami and Microsoft
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>>174575346
I didn't know the preorder for the CE edition has ended.
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>>174571592
>>174573413
>>174574445
>>174575346
On the Sonic movie:

>”The live-action movie is being produced by Sony Pictures and Marza Animation Planet. SEGA does supervise the story, but it remains in its position of out-licensing. So I cannot say too much about it, but Tim Miller (Main works: ‘Deadpool’) is the executive producer and his right-hand man Jeff Fowler is the director. Actually, their studio, Blur Studio, is the company that created the CG cutscenes for ‘Shadow the Hedgehog’. I found them as I was looking for a good CG company in the US. It is by total coincidence that they are creating a Sonic movie now again. I’m relieved that Blur Studio is taking charge of it, as they’ve been saying they liked Sonic since back then."

>The US-branch of Marza Planet is in the same floor of the same building as Sega of America. Sony Pictures and Blur Studio are also in Los Angeles, which is great for close communication.

>”There were many offers for making a live-action movie of Sonic, but it is finally happening. I’m looking forward to it very much.”

On Sonic Boom:

>”I’m so relieved that we could finally deliver the Sonic Boom TV show to Japanese fans.

> Iizuka is very busy since he moved to US a year ago; “I thought I wouldn’t have much to do, but I was so wrong *laughs*.” Apart from game development , his team has to not only supervise licensed goods, but do PR and marketing as well. “Every day is a downpour of new cases.” Just by looking at the media, there are movies, comics, and animations. Mobile titles are organized by SEGA Networks of the US, but he has to check these contents too.“
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>>174567763
>>174568162

Running into issues Rerigging this model. For whatever reason there is a knee control that's doing practically nothing which is basically making every leg movement awkward and stretched out, as well as making it so that Sonic's leg cannot bend at the "knee"

The only way I'd know to fix that would be by redoing the entire legs. But I dunno if that'd fuck with the other person's ability to add in sonic's animations from gens.

I'll probably have to try again some other time to make better rig controls.
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>>174576046
I mean the fact the game is mainly remade levels, 16 bit, and expected to only sell to a fraction of the fanbase the fact it got a limited edition or any screentime at events is amazing.
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>>174576173
>>There were many offers for making a live-action movie of Sonic
But...why? Why does nobody want to make a CG-only Sonic film?
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>>174574445
>>Although past stages are used, the game does have a story. This ‘story’ is, like in ‘Sonic 3’, made only of character movements, like a doll theater, without any dialogue from start to end.
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>>174575604
>>174576046
FYI the number of fans who insist on a physical release for digital products is very low and decreasing every year. You're very much in the minority.
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>>174575823
I'll try to finish the Knuckles thing before issue #80 then, I don't know what the other ones would be, are there any more that become relevant before issue #100?

>>174575834
I guess I can deal with, I'm not sure, I don't read comicbooks so I've never had to deal with it other than the ocassional cameo on a movie or something.
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>>174576271
Hollywood is stupid and doesn't learn lesson. They made 2 Smurfs, 4 chipmunks movies and probably countless other "cartoons go to the human world" CG movies. They're always bad.
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>>174576271
Money.
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>>174576173
>>”The live-action movie is being produced by Sony Pictures and Marza Animation Planet.
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>>174576465
>I'll try to finish the Knuckles thing before issue #80 then, I don't know what the other ones would be, are there any more that become relevant before issue #100?
The Tails mini series and the Sally Mini series

Fuck's sake, I have to do this shit myself

Here's a reading guide. It's outdated, but here
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>>174571592
>>174573413
>>174574445
>>174575346
>>174576173
>”For example, Sonic in ‘Lego Dimensions’ is an out-licensing of character rights, but since it is an actual game, we check the content. It was very hard during development, but I think it was worth it, since it is highly rated by users. Like this, we check everything with the name Sonic on it. Schedule management and communication with cooperating companies are done by local staff, but the quality is always being checked by me and Hoshino."

>”This also means that the quality control was not enough until now. As a result, some of the things previously produced were with our reluctance, to be honest. Right now I can move the projects within my range, which I find good.”

>”The team in Los Angeles today has completely different members than when we were in San Francisco. There are people who are accustomed with media or licensing, making up the team with many connections to Hollywood. It’s very rewarding for me.”

A final summary:

>“2016 was the 25th anniversary of ‘Sonic’, and this year 2017 awaits release of ‘Sonic Mania’ and ‘Sonic Forces’. The 'Sonic Boom’ TV show will finally be aired in Japan. I think that all of these are important steps to the coming 30th anniversary. This is the year in which the team I belong to was born, and its achievements will come out. I wish to show a new expansion of ‘Sonic’ to the fans without disappointing them, so please look forward to it.”

That's it for Mania. Next time, Sonic Forces.
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>>174576726
>”This also means that the quality control was not enough until now. As a result, some of the things previously produced were with our reluctance, to be honest. Right now I can move the projects within my range, which I find good.”
RIP comics
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Where should I start of I've never played or read Sonic, but my favorite character is Tails?
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How good is Sonic Time Twisted?
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>>174576960
Sonic 2. Start with Sonic 2. As for the comics, skip to the reboot at Sonic 252 because the pre-reboot is rather cruel to him. For cartoons, AoSTH, Boom, and X will give you all the Tails you'll ever need, especially the first one. X Tails suffers though, but that's only at the end
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>>174576175
Don't sweat it. Like I said before, I'll handle getting things set up such that normal animations are working. I just need your artistry with animation.

I've ALMOST got Modern Sonic in. I hope everyone is okay with Lost World's animations to start off with. It's the only one I could get working.
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>>174576271
Because it's really expensive.
I want another Night of the Werehog.
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>>174576960
Get an emulator and play Tails Adventure. It's a Tails-only lightweight Metroidvania (although the music is pretty disappointing compared to the main Master System/Game Gear games). The game's villains, the Battle Kukku Army, are also B-list villains in the newer comics so it's relevant to that now too.
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Guise.

What if...

Guise what if...

What if ....

What if the third character is pic related?
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>>174577239
Oh, also play Sonic 3&K, the Adventure games, the Advance trilogy, and Colors.
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>>174577391
What a stupid choice that'd be.
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>>174576726
Damn, he really is trying. Must be painful when stuff doesn't work out despite trying so hard. Also
>The 'Sonic Boom’ TV show will finally be aired in Japan
I'll be laughing so hard if it's more popular there than in the U.S, hope it finds some success at least.
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>>174577391
What if the third playstyle is fucking Bunny
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>>174577391
>They killed the comics so comicfags wouldn't have to worry about the games affecting them anymore
Sasuga Sega.
>>174577352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZOnzCn-EOU
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>>174576805
Didn't the rumor back in December about the comics ending say something similar?

Or am I thinking of the Boom ending rumor?
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>>174577457
>>174577558

What if the third playstyle is Antoine (Sword), Sally (Fists), Bunnie (Guns), Rotor (Hammers) and you DMC style-switch your way through fights, with each style-switch causing a support-character like striker attack on switch-in?

Why am I not making this sonic game? You know it's going to be something shittier than that, like Sonic's kid from the future.
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>>174576726
Well, I hope it works out.

Also, that system where Hoshino and him veto everything sounds very arbitrary. Though I kind of had that feeling before, so maybe I'm just having confirmation bias.
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>>174577391
>Out all the characters.
>Out of every single character made in Sonic's name throughout the entire franchise.
>They choose fucking ANTOINE.

That would break the Camels back for me with Sonic.
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>>174576696
That's really useful! Thanks anon.

A lot of the comics listed in there aren't specified in the site, are the mini series included in the "sonic the hedgehog" comic? Or should I look them up separately? Maybe the mega link in the OP has them with the same names that they have there?
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>>174577893

Anotine is the biggest dicked G in the whole franchise, bar none.

BAR FUCKING NONE.
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>>174577946
The mini series need to be looked up on their own. You're better off using the Mega in the OP.

Also have liquor on hand so that when you get to Knuckles, it hurts less
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>>174578024
He's a cuckold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVbm44HNNFc
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>>174578024
>Anotine is the biggest dicked G in the whole franchise, bar none
>implying
There's a reason Sonic is as confident as he is.
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>>174577703
>like Sonic's kid from the future

How would this place react if it was Sonic & Amy's kid from the future? How would Sonic & Amy react in game?
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>>174578024
>Implying he isn't a cuck
>Implying the only reason Bunnie didn't go for him is because she thought she didn't have a chance with Sonic and Rotor was a fag
>>174578204
This. Also it's hilarious to think that there's any girl that isn't attracted to him. Why Bunnie didn't take a shot at him baffles me
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>>174578203
>that image
What are they talking about?
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>>174577703
>>174578332
Niggas, it's going to be Big and Blaze's kid fro the future.
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>>174578332
I dunno, Sonic Battle?
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>>174578203

>SatAM Antoine

Well, there's your problem.

also, see >>174572915
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>>174578203
I still don't know if I should watch this series.
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>>174578505
See >>174578365

Sonic's objectively more of a man than he is. He should just go home and guard the castle or whatever. OR just sit on his hands and wait for Sonic to save the day
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>>174578365

She sort of did....though that's because Patches was the real cuck.

Though Patches was trying to cuck Sonic.

I'm cuckfused.
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>>174578505
Fucking a cripple doesn't exactly make you a "G".
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>>174573925
Fangs reason was that Rouge took over his roll as the treasure hunter/jewel theif characters.
>>174574838
Fangs pop gun shouldn't be an issue. Its a cartoony toy
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>>174578615
>See my post pls

Anon, no one's interested in your old ass bait. Give it a rest.
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>>174578660
This. If anything it just highlights how desperate and sad he is that he settled for that instead of pursuing the princess more, or at least going after someone rich and powerful.

Fucking a cripple makes you less of a man. He's a beta male, and it shows through Bunnie
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>>174577247
In all honesty Lost world is aesthetically some of my favorite sonic.
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>>174577661
They said that Sega wanted to reign in the franchise because Boom wasn't as successful as they had wanted, or something. It's a really flimsy excuse to kill the comic if that's what happened, but what else can you expect from Sega.
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>>174577247
>>174578738
>Lost World

Dead on arrival.
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>>174578425
Would Sonic just run from the sight of his & Amy's kid?
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>>174578852
Faster than a nigger.
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>>174577459
You know what this means...

STICKS ON PIXIV
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Sonic needs to go back to Japan. Sonic needs a new manga and anime.

>"A-DUHHHHHH, Nippon doesn't care about Sanic!"

But they are the only ones who know how to do him justice when they care. I had enough of dirty gaijin further dragging Sonic's name in the mud.
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>>174578738
I like Lost World's Sonic model because it's not as exaggerated as the boost game models, but everything about it aesthetically can go sniff a chimney full of dick-scented candles.
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>>174578852
Gotta go fast.
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>>174569529
We really need Sonic characters doing this. I seen Tails doing the Moe to Honey the Cat. What about Knuckles to Rouge or Shadow to Maria or Sonic to Sonic
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>>174579289
I'd rather see Maria to Shadow or Cassia to Clove
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Generations good?
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>>174540229
Does this have something to do with Sonic the Fighters?
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>>174579514
ye
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>>174579514
It's ok
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>"Alright /sthg/, ready to work on that game tonight?!"
>"YEEEEEEEAH!"
>7 hours later
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>>174579514
Generations as good as it gets if you like Modern Sonic.

Classic is better than 4, but not quite like the Genesis days. Still actually good, but eh.
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/sthg/ help, my head's spinning
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>>174579289
>>174579396
Well /sthg/ where are the art bros?

>>174569529
The template is right there! Get to making some fresh content. I even welcome it if its anon doing it to Bump!
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>>174579667
WATCH OUT! YOU'RE GONNA CRASH! AAAHHHH!
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The thing that saddens me the most about the potential loss of the comics is the fact that we'll lose the best representation of E123 Omega ever. He hasn't appeared in a mainline game in over 10 years (not counting the handheld games and M&S games), and the last game he played a starring role in was utterly awful.

If the comics go under I'm going to really miss the way he's been written.
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>>174579667
WHAT A WILD RIDE
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>>174572287
>the Unleashed storyline was already enjoyable and had more characteristics and storytelling capacity

I must have played a different game. I don't remember this deep storytelling you're alluding to.
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>>174579396
>or Cassia to Clove
>Clove will never go full yandere over Cassia
Fuck everything

I kind of wanted the whole "Sisterly bond" thing to go in a super fucked up direction
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>>174579867
I hate this thing so much.
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>>174577946
>>174576696
Here's an updated one
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>>174579867
Ok want to know why you think you played a different game?

You never talked to all of the people in the game and actually read what they said about interacting with other NPCs/Main Characters/Side Characters.
If you want to fully enjoy Unleashed. Play thruoughly. Absorb information and 100% it all.
Yes that means grow balls of steel and complete the Hotdog Missions.

Toughen up buttercup.
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>>174579746
>no more Battle Bird Armada being badass
>no more Babylon Rogues worldbuilding
>no more Team Hooligan shenanigans
>no more Mighty and Ray actually existing
>no more chances for Blaze to show up
>no more cute Vanilla and Cream moments
>no more Team Dark interaction and development
>no more Amy having a personality other than Sonic's stalker
>no more Knuckles actually being competent
>no more angstless Tails
>no more MASTER PLAN Eggman
It's not just Omega. We'll be losing the best versions of most of the game cast too.
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>>174577459
They can't do worse with it than CN has.
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Hope characters aren't so nerfed in Runners Adventure and I could do this again.
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>>174579867
Not him, but while I wouldn't classify the storytelling as "deep", it was a very charming and well-written romp through various cultures, getting to know people, fleshing out the world as a whole, and it really felt like a true world adventure

...if the player bothered talking to NPCs and doing side quests, which 90% probably didn't because it's a Sonic game and they just want to get to the next day level because it's a fucking Sonic game.

This is where the comics diverging from the games is a good thing, because it can expand upon the stories of the games in ways that people don't care about when playing the games but are definitely receptive toward when reading a comic.
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>>174580319

I really think people are going to miss this more when it's actually all gone.

The memers are having their fun now, but a lot of these characters are essentially gone now.
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>>174580319
>>174580405
Only hardcore comicfags will still care. The games are literally all that matter to the public.
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>>174580319
>No more Babylon Rogues
YAMEROOOO
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>>174580405
Enough of them will be around, that's what matters. They'll be there in Forces, cheering Sonic on, and life will go on
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>>174580319
>people keep harping on the FF
>ignoring the fact that the game characters actually did shit
I need more Eggman being a tyrannical badass and mastermind. And maybe Eggmanon reading some of this if it hasn't already been done.
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>>174580319
Shit, I forgot:
>Team Chaotix actually being enjoyable with character traits beyond the dumb big guy, the serious quiet one, and the annoying child
>Silver being more than just memebait
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>>174580556

God, that's almost worse.

Watching Amy and Knuckles just stand on some random planet in Lost World was fucking painful.
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>Post yfw you're not a comiccuck.
Now finally this glorified /co/ general can fucking die.
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>>174580486
And there are plenty of people who are fans of game characters who aren't Sonic, Tails and Eggman, and the comics were the only way to get those characters in any meaningful way. Appearances in Generations and Lost World aren't enough because all of those amounted to two or three lines at the most, probably same with Forces.
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>>174580215
The NPC interaction parts are fine, but ultimately most of it is so far removed from the plot and core gameplay that it's difficult to recommend someone replay the game just for that. There are some genres of game where that stuff works (RPGs), but in Unleashed it really is fluff.

The actual core story and cutscenes are full of bullshit. There are some good moments, but there's also
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When the comics are finally confirmed cancelled, please don't shitposts the general whining about it
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>>174580639
>Tfw Boom dies soon
>Tfw games forever from that point
Feels good
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>>174580595

At least the last Sonic Universe is a Chaotix arc.

Just as Gaia intended.
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>>174580215
So the inconsequential sidequests make the storyline deep?
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>>174580667
As long as you don't shitpost the general laughing about it.
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>>174580556
And I feel for fans of those characters, especially those who know they could be much more then offscreen mics spamming YOU GOT THIS SANIC
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>>174580621
They're supporting characters, they're there to support Sonic, what the fuck do you want them to do
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>>174580621
It's been pretty much said that Forces will have these characters do something. And for some reason, Runners & LEGO Dimensions have also shown characters outside of Sonic doing something useful, so there's hope.

>>174580639
>>174580708
>>174580667
>Wanting one of the reasons /sthg/ was even created to die
>Wanting something negative to happen to the Sonic series

Have a (You)
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>>174580667
>>174580753
Why even set expectations for things you know are going to happen?
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>>174580710
>Last 4-part arc before reboot was Chaotix
>final arc before cancellation was Chaotix
Pottery
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>>174580795

Not be essentially Dragonball characters in Dragon Ball Z
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>>174580754
Yeah, they can also job and cheer Sonic on on screen too
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>>174580639
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>>174580806
>It's been pretty much said that Forces will have these characters do something
Where was that said?
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>>174579867
>>174580159
>>174580658
>>174580745
OH I'm sorry.
I must've not read the same comics as you all.
Please show me where I can find this truly deep retelling of Sonic Unleashed where the characters have actual goals, traits and personalities that doesn't make them walking character tropes and where half the FFs could literally be gone and the story wouldn't change a bit.
Please show me this deep story where the nolstagia and OC characters aren't literally just one-siders with the obvious intentions of "this'll lead to something someday...hopefully." Tell me where this story is where almost each issue is a re-run of the last one.

I would LOVE to read this.
Please. You guys are over glorifying the comics to ridiculousness at this point.
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>>174580806
Faggot, I came here mainly to talk about the games with the other stuff as a side dish. If you want to only talk about the comics then go to /co/.
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>>174580708
>tfw Mania and Foerces bomb
>mfw Sega ends the franchise

can't wait
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>>174580639
Hopefully it can turn more into a gaming general and we could actually discuss about a few speedrunning tricks and talk about our favorite stages in games

StH1-Scrap Brain
StH2- Hill Top Zone
StH3- Hydocity
S&K- Flying Battery
SCD- Quartz Quadrant
S3DB- Spring Yard
SAdvent-Emerald Coast
SAdvent2- Final Rush
SHeroes-Frog Forest
SRush- Altitude Limit
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>>174580795
>Knuckles was a playable character in 3&K, Advance 1-3, Battle, Adventure 1&2, and Heroes
>Amy was a playable character in Advance 1-3, Battle, Adventure 1, and Heroes
How about be fucking playable again
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>>174580806
If you want to talk mainly about the comics then go to fucking /co/ that is literally what it is meant for.
/vg/ is meant for mainly VIDEO GAMES and the stuff surrounding it. Not the other way around which is how this general has been for the past 500 fucking threads now.
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>>174581001
Forces will hopefully bomb so Sega realizes nobody likes the friends getting in the fucking way
>>174580967
They can't. The comics are shit, they just won't admit it. Thank god they're gone so this franchise can focus on the games, and those can focus on Sonic instead of the side characters nobody outside of hardcore fans cares about
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>>174580967
They see the comics as the golden dynasty of Sonic and the entire franchise needs to be modeled after it
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>>174580967
I didn't say anything about the comics, I was just refuting the claim that Unleashed's storytelling was great.
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>>174581037
Or you could not be a bitch and talk about that stuff now.
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>>174580949
The guy directing the game pretty much said that we'll see the "heroic actions of Sonic & The Resistance," so we'll probably see them do something.

>>174580975
>>174581060
Can you please point to when I said I'm only here for the comics, or are you gonna keep shitposting? And the last few threads have been mostly about the games & the fangame GHPAnon is working on. Have another (You) Shitpost some other time.
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>>174581081
Well they're wrong. They're shit and have always been the worst part of the franchise. They should've died a long, long time ago. Hopefully once they die and Boom dies it's just the games from here on out, and hopefully those are just 3D Boost and 2D Mania. If you don't like those or the stories those tell, you need to fuck off
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>>174580885

Fuck, that was Matilda's arc, wasn't it?

>We'll never get bad-ass little girl with pile-bunker arms adventures
>We'll never get Fish Princess adventures with scared dolphin

Feels the absolute worst, man.
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>>174580196
Thx senpai. I take it only the most recent ones aren't in the mega link, right?
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>>174581169
Yeah, they'll probably sacrifice themselves to help Sonic save the day. Hopefully, so we don't have to see them again. Maybe then we can reduce the sheer amount of character bloat
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>>174581118
And I never said that Unleashed was great I was saying it was enjoyable.
Nice way to shove words in my mouth though. Learn reading comprehension.
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>>174581192
>Mighty finally reunited with his sister
>Penders goes nuclear
Goddamn it.

>dolphins name is Echo
Kek
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>>174580795
They can be more than cheerleaders. They can actively participate in the game's story and gameplay beyond digging up medals for challenges. Maybe even be playable. Hell, maybe even have whole stages and stories to themselves.

The universe of Sonic the Hedgehog has grown huge, there is a lot you can do with it other than make Sonic run around with occasional outside dialogue.
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>>174581192
>We'll never see the donut steels again.
Wow, what a loss.
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>>174581239
Yes
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>>174580967
I haven't read the comics since way before the reboot, I'm just saying that Unleashed's story was bad, and based on how the comic went after the de-Pendering I imagine I'd like it more than what the game had to offer.
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>Only MY vision of the franchise deserves to exist!
Oh boy, it's that time again huh?
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>>174581367
Yep. Time for another edition of "baiting /sthg/." Remember to report & ignore shitposters, folks.

Anyways /sthg/, what aspect of the series brought you into Sonic? Did the comics bring you in, or was it the games, or the TV shows?

>>174581239
The most recent ones aren't in the link, but that's because the MEGA hasn't been updated in months.
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>>174581318
>They can be more than cheerleaders. They can actively participate in the game's story and gameplay beyond digging up medals for challenges. Maybe even be playable. Hell, maybe even have whole stages and stories to themselves.
Yeah, but that takes attention away from Sonic, you know, the character who the franchise is named after. It's called Sonic the Hedgehog, not Tails the Fox. At most, they should be there to help Sonic. Nobody wants to see a game called Sonic the hedgehog where some literal who does shit with no Sonic in sight. That was the problem with the comics. There was an entire comic where Sonic never showed up. Sonic Universe, but there's no Sonic. That's fucking stupid
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>>174581367
The games are the original and definitive version, dude. The entire franchise is built on it. The rest of the stuff is just advertisement for it.
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>>174581419
Sonic X.[/spoilers]
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>>174581367
Yup, time to sit back and watch the thread skyrocket to thread cap thanks to the vicious cycle of shitposting. So fuck it, again, time to speed run specter knight.

>>174581419
All of the above.
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>>174581419

It's like the same two guys, as well, sometimes fed by some random who has no idea from /v/...they've gotten to be barneyfag tier.

I keep leaving for a month and coming back and they're still here. With the same shitty bait.
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>>174581303
>I never said that Unleashed was great I was saying it was enjoyable.

Great, enjoyable, whatever point is the main storyline and characters are shallow as fuck.
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>>174581419
Games initially, got a Genesis for Christmas with Sonic 2. Started collecting the comics and watching the cartoons soon after.
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>>174581419
AoStH got me introduced me to Sonic.
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I'm gonna miss the comics, but what always bugged me was how literally every character introduced ended up being more interesting and likeable than the FFs. Even in the reboot - Relic, Coral, Razor, Clove, Breezie - these characters aren't even constantly present but I enjoy and love basically whenever they're around. The FFs have always just been kinda...there. (I do really like Rotor though, on the few occasions he is actually required to talk). They're neat on paper and have fine designs, but they're just not fun characters. I can't even put my finger on what it is. Literally every other character (in my opinion) is fine, and I love Amy/Big/Cream in the reboot despite them appearing nearly as often as Antoine and Bunnie. But somehow I'm never really happy to see Antoine and Bunnie around.
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>>174581419
I don't think we can pin every surge of arguments on /trash/. I think it is safe to say that this general harbors people who have conflicting opinions they feel a need to try to force on others.
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>>174580486
The public? The average normal fag doesn't give a single fuck about Sonic. And most fans of the series care about the other characters (except for classic fag shitposters). And the fact of the matter is that the games give little to no development or screen time at all to nobody but Sonic and maybe Tails.
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>>174581595
And the comics aren't?
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>>174581147
I just did and its you not talking about it anon.
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>>174581419
Games. I had seen some of the two Sonic cartoons out at the time, and I enjoyed them, but I didn't watch them much. I had S3&K on PC as a kid, had no idea that the Dreamcast existed, and when I went to a friend's house and saw the Sonic Adventure intro I knew I needed one. I've considered myself a fan ever since.
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>>174581574
Could it be possible that... it is actually people with DIFFERENT opinions?
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>>174581475
Are you that insecure about Sonic that you are literally afraid his friends become useful and actually help ? That's...very petty and sad really.
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>>174581681
>But somehow I'm never really happy to see Antoine and Bunnie around.
Probably because they don't have any character to them whatsoever. I could shit out a better character for them in a minute
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44kFp9K7Cus
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>>174581574
You're not wrong. It always uses the same diction and arguments, and when called out always resort to >>174581732. What should we call this /sthg/-centered Bareyfag-fag?
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>>174558376
>you'll never experience Blaze being possessive over you
>you'll never have her exercise her royal right to claim you via burn
>you'll never hear her whisper into your ear that you're hers and hers alone now in the most seductive way imaginable
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>>174581708
Why do you keep reflecting to the comics? I'm talking about Unleashed the video game here.
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>>174581681
I always thought it was strange that Bunnie and Twan existed and even held up in the reboot. They were literally walking Southern and French stereotypes, respectively, and even the chances to give them character kinda failed.
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>>174581681
The FFs were only around for Nostalgia's sack. Maybe they had a place in their own universe in the pre-reboot, but in a more game oriented setting they are literally pointless.
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>>174581732

With literally the same arguments every time?

I'm not even really sure it's two people. It might just be one guy with a VPN.
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Ok /sthg/ its fun chatting with you guys or things or autismos or Chris-chans or what have you. But I got some Sonic's to play to pass the time til this plane lands into Tokyo for business.
Peace
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>>174581574
Funny thing is the last two threads have been pretty good, with all the stuff that GHPAnon & some of the other users was doing. Very nice seeing /sthg/ doing something productive. But of course, the same shitposters show up afterwards.

>>174581732
If you feel the need to try & be a cunt about your opinions, you're still no better than shitposters.

>>174581515
Funny enough, the Advance games, Heroes & Sonic X introduced me to Sonic. Ever since then, I've been hooked on this series.
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>>174581912
No need for a VPN when everyone's got a phone and airplane mode.
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>>174581867
Because that was my original point of the argument and post and you're trying to separate my initial reason for the statement to try and make me sound dumb.
Do you think I'm stupid and don't' know how to debate or something?

If you wanted to talk about strictly the Unleashed plot you should have announced that instead of swiftly saying that Unleashed's plot was shit because I will agree with you that it wasn't great and it was shallow but my initial point of discussion was that the comics weren't that better either.

If you have nothing to add to the conversation then don't join it because it makes you look like a pompous asshole.
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>>174581064
Here's a free (you) but if Sonic forces bombs it will be another nail in the serie's coffin, if not the final one.
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>>174581847

He's been gamesonlyfag for a bit, but that's not really fair to the games, is it?
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>>174582026
You're more right than you think.
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>>174581885
>and even the chances to give them character kinda failed.
Antoine at least had a character, but his one defining trait was ripped from him for no good reason. Bunnie never had a character to begin with. At the very least she could've actively been discriminated against for her cyborg status instead of it being relegated to lashbacks. Like have the team be constantly wary about her because she could be remotely hacked and she could break their spines by sheer accident
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>>174582026
>It's another "Sonic will die if this game fails" post.
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>>174580368
how much did you have to pay to get there, anon?
no really, did you actually pay?
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>>174581475
It is stupid for the franchise to not make use of these many characters with many fans. Incorporating other characters in the game has worked fine before. Note that when I say "fine" I mean "players in general were fine or even happy with it", not "you were fine or even happy with it".

Making other characters more prevalent in the games will not only appeal to their fans, but also bring more variety the gameplay, something that considering the recent emphasis on multiple playstyles, Sega seems to want to pursue. The best part about it is that it absolutely would not be as forced as you make it out to be, it's not like killing off Sonic to shoehorn in Bubsy or an OC. These characters have been utilized in past games just fine, they have a history with the franchise and the players that can be worked on, and many people want them.
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>>174581686
Even Classicfags cheered for Tails and Knuckles as playable characters.

Sonic only is just blatant Iizukaposting.
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>>174582239
Maybe it is Iizuka posting?
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>>174582239
>Even Classicfags cheered for Tails and Knuckles as playable characters.
Because Tails and Knuckles ARE classic characters.
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>>174582048
Not really, no. He goes beyond hating secondary material like the comics and shows, being unable to stand the thought of anyone other than Sonic and Eggman having any sort of focus or impact on the game, let alone the plot (which he cries the series shouldn't have at all).
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>>174582023
>because I will agree with you that it wasn't great and it was shallow

Ah, see that's all you had to say, instead of this bullshit.

>the Unleashed storyline was already enjoyable and had more characteristics and storytelling capacity than the entire Comic arc had in it's 3 years of telling it.

You can go back to being butthurt at the comics now.
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>>174582317

Is Fang a classic character?
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>>174581475
>Yeah, but that takes attention away from Sonic, you know, the character who the franchise is named after. It's called Sonic the Hedgehog, not Tails the Fox.
You're absolutely correct. Sonic is stale, boring and overdone. He should be retired as the main character while other characters have their own games. Bring him back in maybe ten years.
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>>174582115
>but his one defining trait was ripped from him for no good reason

He was still a bit of a coward post-reboot, just not debilitating so.
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>>174582191
Nope, I did it all free which made it all feel sweeter when I placed that high with Cream. Wanted to shell out at least $5 in the beginning but waiting a few months to see if it'd stay that way. I saved myself $5.
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>>174582379
>Shove words in my mouth.
>Then try to act like you don't know that you're trying to redirect me.
>Then act like as if I'm being butthurt over the comics because I didn't like how the Unleashed story was played out.
You need to go back to college and learn debate skills buddy because now you're just acting stupid.
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>>174581951
For me it was that but no Heroes.

It was Smash, of all things.

>>174582317
It's because there's finally another Classic game Classicfags have been REEEEEEing since 4.
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>>174582436

I'd kill for a Sly Cooper styled Rouge game.

Or a R&C styled Tails game

Or a Dungeon Keeper styled Eggman game

Or a DMC styled Shadow game

Or a fighting game

Or a competent JRPG

This franchise has a lot more potential than just platformers.
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>>174582508
It was too toned down. It's more fun with it's debilitating
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>>174582149
>legitimately thinking that bomb after bomb won't eventually kill any franchise.
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>>174582436
>He should be retired as the main character while other characters have their own games.
Look, I'm a big fan of other characters being playable, but no. Absolutely not. The only way he should be retired as a main character is making a game like 2006 (but better obviously) where other characters are equally (or almost as) important. Unless the games are really low budget, we're not getting another Tails Adventure, Knuckles Chaotix, or Shadow the Hedgehog.
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>>174581915
>Chris-chans
Speaking of Christine how is that person still alive to this very day?

I am quite curious as to see what ex-Sonic fan has become to become the most despicable autist among autists.
What about SammyClassicSonicFan or that one woman Alix Hinorol who actually got so focused that she married Sonic and made siteposts about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEdsyOyjfsE
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>>174582274
>Why aren't you all excited for the coming golden age of Sonic the Hedgehog franchise?
>With those shit comics and their pesky lawsuits and decades worth of content and fans and fond memories finally out of the way, we can focus our full attention on the game that finally appeals to what the official playtesters have always made fart jokes over: Sonic & Classic Sonic & Modern Sonic & Adventure Sonic
>Who the hell is Blaze?
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>>174582239
Well, I did said classicfag shitposters specifically.

Besides Tails and Knuckles were playable in the classic games like some other anons pointed out.
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>>174582572
>Holy Invasion of Privacy, Eggman!
I'd buy it.
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Wait a moment... Spark the Electric Jester is out? And it's actually in english?!
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>>174582525
Should clarify I waited to see if the game would stay a good non money grubbing game.
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>>174582642
>Thinking Sonic is even capable of dying now after surviving the mess that was 06.
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Is it me or has this general went Brit Snarky like when 10:00 PM EST hit?
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>>174582572
FUCKING THIS

HOW MANY COOL SPINOFFS COULD WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM ALL THE BUDGET THAT WAS DUMPED INTO BOOM?
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>>174582149
Real talk: why would the series end if Forces bombs? Why Forces and not, I dunno, 06, Secret Rings (most people seem to hate it), RoL, or Lost World?

I can see it driving off a lot of older fans, but on the other hand, I see wee lads/lasses wearing Sonic shirts and those hats with the ears and quills all the time--would Sega lose them as well? I find that hard to believe. Even if they don't hold on to today's kids for long, there's always another batch tomorrow.

>>174582642
Maybe "eventually" is the key word here, but there've been a lot of bombs.
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>>174582572
Fighting Game or RPG can work, because you don't have to focus as much on Sonic but still have him there.

Also I'd just really like another Sonic fighting game.
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>>174582820
>made by GameLoft
Please, for your sake, don't hold your breath.
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I'm going to have to ask.
Is there any defined personality for Sage and Bump for the general.
In my eyes I see Bump as a dumb bimbo deer and Sage as a sleepy, grumpy sloth but I've seen a lot of people here associate her with shitposting as well.

What do you guys think?
This MAY or MAY not be lead to something. I make no promises.
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>>174582936
Secret Rings was cool
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>>174582808
Yes Anon. Whats your Steam? I send you a copy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS6AQ68IYbs&index=1&list=PLTsPmYOQxpNZ4e8khiUgJTqBskoSq-06T
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>>174583028
Bump is happy and Sage is all grumpy and stuff. That's it.
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>>174582936
>Real talk: why would the series end if Forces bombs
For the same reason you won't be seeing any more Metroid, F-Zero, or Star Fox games anytime soon.
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>>174583028
You pretty much got it down I'd say.
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>>174582436
>Sonic multimedia universe
>huge franchise with lots of characters getting their own games
>different games trying out different styles and combinations of gameplay and characters
>bring in actual competent writters to make a meaningful story
> Maybe even get some T rated games or even above that from time to time
>Sonic focused games become rarer
>Every time a new Sonic game comes out it's a GTA level event
>Sonic games get years of development time to perfect the gameplay, without needing to add unnecessary gimmicks, just the best fast gameplay trough perfectly crafted levels

If only...
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>>174583028
Bump is nice, excitable, and a bit clueless.
Sage is irritable and rude/sarcastic.
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>>174582906

I will never understand why Sega made Boom. The comics were literally rebooting during the time that Boom was coming out. I know this is a controversial opinion, and comicsfags don't want the possibility of the games' taint reaching them, and gamesfags don't want comics stuff in their games...but

Like, why make an entirely new thing when you have literally an entire world just there for the taking. They could have just TOOK it. It was theirs. They owned it.

>>174582957

I really want a simplified VF with a Super system with Sonic characters. That would be my dream.
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>>174582890
The Brits attacked.

>>174583028
You're pretty much on-point with Sage, & Bump is a huuuge slut.
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>>174583030
It was my first 3D Sonic game as a kid and I dropped it cause it was shit.

I'm 19 Swatbots, pls no bully
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>>174582728
Man I remember playing this fangame on Newgrounds back in the 2003's or so when I was 13. Now 13 more years later. I can name only a few songs from the game thats been midi'ed and placed into it.

Hated the story but I thought Lumi was an interesting take on a new character. Even though they forced a romance between her and Sonic too quick.
Meh as Fanfiction it could always be much more worse off then this.
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Things are going great, everybody! Just one more question before I show my work to everybody: Sonic's shade of blue can be easily edited, meaning that we can make him whatever shade we like!

So, /sthg/, what is our Sonic's shade of blue?
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>>174583052
I doubt this is real, but here it is anyway:
steamcommunity.com/id/hottestdadjokeof2016/
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>>174583012
I know, but the biggest stickler for me was the roulette wheel and the "leak" already makes this game sound like the game it should have been from the beginning. Just buying the characters you want upfront without leaving it up to chance.
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>>174583028
Bump is a fun slut. I wouldn't call her a stupid bimbo, probably somewhat ditzy but not to the extent of retardation. Sage is basically a resident shut-in shitposter.
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>>174583157

They could have grabbed Ian Flynn by the nuts, dragged him to Japan, locked him in a room, and just said "GET TO WRITING GAIJIN" and he would have happily complied and made something 10 times better than Boom.
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>>174583115
There's a difference though. Nintendo has the groups those games appeal to mostly covered already. Mario Kart is their racer, they didn't need F-Zero around. Metroid and Star Fox appealed to slightly older audiences than most of their games, and they seem to think Zelda is for that these days.

Sega doesn't have another children's series right now really.
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>>174583028
Bump is an exhibitionist by nature and has the enture year as her mating season. She likes to invite others to have fun out only to "accidentaly" have her clothes ripped on trees and "accidentaly" trip and fall in with her naked pussy in the face of others when trying to wake them up, only to pass it off as they are dreaming and take that oportunity to force them to give her an oral
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>>174583028
It's going to vary from person to person.

Bump's always seemed to me to be a chipper, optimistic (if not a bit naive) gal who embodies good times and positive discussion.

Sage is lazy, cranky, and antisocial. Other people's bad time is her pastime, fitting for the personification of shitposting and arguing for arguing's sake.
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>>174583234
Dark blue.
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>>174582936
We need to actually see some actual sales figures, because this series either isn't as big as people think, or it's way bigger than people think. Regardless I don't think Forces bombing is enough, but it would be the second or third game in a row to not do spectacularly. Maybe Lost World did good, I don't know, review scores don't mean shit, sales is what matters.

Sonic 06 is a bomb in reviews but it actually sold very well, and i'm sure it's selling even better now that it's become a meme.
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>>174583028
>Sage as a sleepy, grumpy sloth but I've seen a lot of people here associate her with shitposting as well.

Those aren't mutually exclusive.
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>>174583410
Lost World sold like shit.

...'06 is still being sold?
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>>174583364
>>174583191
>>174583305
Some thirsty anons out tonight
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>>174583234

Purple
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>>174583410
I bought my copy of 06 last year. I looked under the price sticker and saw that I bought it for a good 10 bucks more than the previous person to own it bought it for.
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>>174583157
The japs don't like the comics.

I for once would like the games and comics and cartoons to get made into a single continuity once and for all. I guess it doesn't matter anymore now that apparently the comics are dying.
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>>174583285
did anon deliver?
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>>174583234
The planet as cool and blue as him.

>>174583565
In all fairness, the Japs don't like Sonic period.
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>>174583578
He delivered a friend request.
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>>174583315
>we exist in a universe where this didn't happen
This is the worst timeline.
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>>174583497

I still see more used copies around than even Unleashed.

That thing sold unbelievably well for how garbage it is.

And here's the dirty secret about sonic: The vast majority of people who buy Sonic are confused parents for their kids. I'm talking, of the ~2 million average, about 1,950K buy the games for their children.

So none of this matters. All that matters is brand recognition.
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>>174583028
I wouldn't consider Bump a bimbo. Just overly physically affectionate, and very laid back, especially when it comes to clothing.

I don't see her trying to seduce everyone she comes in contact with, just being happy to meet new people, and very "touchy feely".

Other people have their own interpretations though, I don't think there is any accepted "canon" for them.
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>>174583565
>The japs don't like the comics.

You can't dislike something you can't read.
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>>174583498
She's the mascot of a 4chan general and a sort-of personification of thread bumping, of course she's going to be a slut.

Although there's a difference between "yeah, you're a nice guy and that sounds like fun" and "GIVE ME ALL COCKS IN ALL HOLES NOW." Maybe it's just from looking at too much porn but the latter is overplayed and stale at this point. I prefer thinking of Bump as just a friendly and cheerful girl who treats sex as any other fun activity. I think of Sonic as having the same attitude.
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>>174583565
The elevens don't care about Sonic anyway.
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>>174583565

The Japs love the comics when they get them over there translated.

I've participated in some 2ch threads. The fans over there love them. There's just not enough people doing translation work on it, and not enough Japanese sonic fans period.

He's sorta passe over there because Sega more treats him like a baseball mascot than a character.
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>>174583673
>used copies

I know '06 sold well, my cousin had a Platnium Hits or whatever copy for the 360. We enjoyed multiplayer.

That sounds interesting. Got a sauce so I can read more?
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>>174583647
Im more surprised they fucked up 06 in every way possible. Hell, they had time travel in their plot! Time travel stories are awesome by default! And they managed to fuck it up big!

Now Silver is forever hated due to his debut game and we don't even know where he came from anymore since 06 was erased from canon
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>>174583723
>Bump being a cuddler
Man, she hit enough buttons already
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>>174583497
>>174583543
>>174583673
I don't know if it's on PSN or XBLA but you can still find brand new copies in Amazon. I don't know how retail works but I'd imagine any brand new copy sold is still positive in some way for SEGA.

Clueless parents might be a part of it...In 2006 when phones and tablets weren't big still, but I can assure you most sales of that game nowadays are dumb people who buy it to be like "LAWL LOOK AT THIS SHIT GAEM ISN'T IT FUNNY?"

This is what the internet has created, a big group of people who reward actual mediocrity.
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>>174583875
>Time travel stories are awesome by default!
They are literally doomsday to a story.
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>>174583723
>very "touchy feely"
>Sage has to deal with that shit on a regular
Sage deserves a better roommate.
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>>174583804
I will say I've seen much more jap fanwork of the preboot comics than the reboot ones

>>174583875
>Time travel stories are awesome by default
What Bizarro land do you come from? Bob & George had it right: Time Travel fucking sucks.
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>>174583875
>we don't even know where he came from anymore since 06 was erased from canon
This is the thing I'm expecting to be most disappointed in Forces not covering. Someone at Polygon says they saw him in the game, but you just know they won't bother bringing up why he's there, even though it's the first mainline console game he's been in since 06.
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>>174584017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKYxIaZtOVY&list=PLB0A5EB21C07F2747

You will never be a 90's kid.
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>>174584017

They're still getting trades from way back then just translated now.
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>>174584017
>>174583961
>>174583875
Time travel stories are always awesome if you're in Sonic's target demographic or are capable of turning you brain off; either way you're fine with glossing over the inevitable plot holes.

Time travel stories are always terrible if you're an adult who overanalyzes the plots to kids games.
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>>174583630
but did he get you Spark the Electric Jester?
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>>174583028
>Sage's angry, shitposting behavior is partly due to sexual frustration and loneliness
>Bump has made advances. Out of attraction, or is she just trying to cheer up her friend the only way she knows how?
>Sage is oblivious to these less-than-subtle advances as she is blinded by breast envy
>Having no experience with such things herself she can't recognize flirting and just sees Bump as a dumb, promiscuous deer flaunting off, leading to more frustration and shitposting
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What does /sthg/ think of Mecha Sonic Model No.29 aka Rocket Metal Sonic from Sonic The Fighters?
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>>174584359
Pic related.
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>>174584309
We had a nice little chat, but that's it. No game, at least not yet.
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>>174584359
He has a dumb looking head.
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>>174583959
Checked both digital services, I found Unleashed but no dice on 06.

Amazon has both, as well as the reviews...
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>>174584359
I like it and think it's a neat alternative to the original Metal Sonic.
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>>174583723
I vouch for this headcanon
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>>174584359
CLAMPS
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>>174581419
Can't remember.
It was either getting the OVA on VHS or Sonic Heroes. Probably the OVA, though.
Either way, it was Sonic's design that really reeled me in. He looked so cool to child me.
Still does too.
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>>174584309
>>174584453
Actually just got it. He even apologized for the delay. He's a nice guy.
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Soooo basically what I'm getting at is:
Bump = Nep
Sage = Blanc
Am I in the right ballpark?
I'm asking because I might write a comfy Slice-of-life story between the two.
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>>174584543
I hate people.
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>>174584709
>mfw I was thinking the same thing
>mfw when I did the same with the neps and need to continue it
You Mayfolk alright that poor spine.
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>>174584278
>turning your brain off
I too enjoy Roland Emmerich movies.
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So we know that Chaos Control can freeze and turn back time, so how long until we see a character use Chaos Control to erase time?
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>>174584829
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>>174552417
Just watched it and I liked it, even if it wasn't a particularly stand-out episode.
I can appreciate that he didn't use the game as a chance to slander the franchise in general as most reviews like to. Not like I expected it to considering James is usually more respectful than that but it's still refreshing.

Also
>Sonic '06 is older now than Superman 64 was when the Nerd reviewed it back in 2008
Where did the time go?
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>>174585015
Obligatory
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>>174583028
Their personality's are whatever an anon happens to think, so very different. Personally always pictured Bump as that one girl you meet in highschool who's on good terms with nearly everyone cause of how optimistic and caring she is. Throw a little bit of innocence and contradictory clothing and boom, you got Bump. Sage on the other hand is that girl in the corner who only speaks up in class to say something snarky or realistic.
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>>174584709
I know nothing of this Neptalk, sorry anon.
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>>174584359
Meh, it was alright. Reminds me more of a shark or those pirate robots in Rush Adventure though.
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>>174583234
Zaffre.
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>>174583234
Warm Blue
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>>174585024
Jesus, a lot of those are far more recent than I'd imagined.
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Sonic Forces you to shoot yourself.
Sonic Forces a geopolitical war between nations on the brink of war.
Sonic Forces you to hold his baby after he wrecked your baby maker.
Sonic Forces you to realize you're a wonderful human being who deserves to be validated and helped in times of need.
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Hey /sthg/ if I were to start a youtube channel and play through the sonic games, what kind of videos do you think would be better:

>LP's of me just starting with sonic 1 and playing all the sonic games through in order, talking over them and just being chill.

>short humor focused cuts of bits from each game I find funny or things I can riff on. so like a video on sonic 1 that'd last say 5 minutes, of rapidfire fun stuff.

>focused essays, like the history or sonic in cartoons with a rundown, or a look at say all the handheld games in a video or all the classic games with some trivia or something.

I see a lot of people just sort of playing the games on youtube and getting large audiences. I'm not in it for an audience and I wouldn't be facecamming, but I would like to start a channel and also I'd be able to do videos on shit like the cartoons, or games and shit.
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>>174586075

If you're going to do all of them, you better do it right.

Tails Adventure or RIOT
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Whew! That was quite the endeavor, but we've got ourselves a Sonic! Here's a shiny new Webm for you all to chew on.

So, just a heads-up, I'm not going to be at my main rig tomorrow night, so I won't be able to work on anything, but I'll likely still check in to see how things are going. By Saturday, I hope to see lots of new stuff from the rest of you. I'm really excited about this. I think this is going to be something special. I'll also be keeping an eye on the Drive.

G'night, ya'll!
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>>174586549
>Tails Adventure
So LP with commentary or dunkey style highlight reel?

Are people really going to want to sit through an hour of me stumbling through tails adventure? because i'll do it.
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>>174587181
Night anon!
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>>174587181
That looks very good!
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>>174587181
So what's this whole project? Is this a remaster of Green Hill Paradise or is a new thing?
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>>174587484
He said he's just making a level for fun with the help of this cesspool.
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>>174587564
Alright. Would be cool if he made another game with this too.
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>>174587283
not that anon but Tails' Adventure is actually pretty good but no one ever bothers playing/finishing it so yeah I'll probably sit through an hour of you stumbling through it as long as your commentary is good
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>>174587564
That's one way to put it. Basically, I want to make a Sonic level that tributes /sthg/, the community at large and the rest of the franchise. The theme we came up with is a museum where the player runs through various exhibits about Sonic and the community while Eggman narrates, Colors-style. With that said, I'd like to involve as much of this small community as possible to pool their many talents into one project.

Drawfriends to make concept art and textures
Voice actors for Sonic and Eggman
Musicians for stage music
3D modelers and animators for the environment
And, of course, a heaping helping of Idea Guys to keep fresh ideas flowing.

If there is anything that you would like to contribute, submit it to the Drive Folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bw9wQojS0lxpOHBEdERyNXVIeWM
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The anon writing that female Sonic story here, I think I'm about half way done jotting it down in my free time, about 4350 words so far. I hit the point where everyone's meeting up, and I just realized I don't have a way to point out which of the two Sonics is which with both having the same name

So anyone has any ideas on how I get around this little issue? I was just thinking of giving fem!Sonic another nickname to make it easier
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>>174586075
you could do a mix of all three. There's no reason not to unless you want the channel to be very strict about what it posts. Just have fun with it.

>LP's of me just starting with sonic 1 and playing all the sonic games through in order, talking over them and just being chill.
just play the good/interesting ones. There's no need to do the game gear ones, 3D blast, etc. unless you legitimately love them. They're just not interesting to look at or watch someone play, even if your commentary is good

>>short humor focused cuts of bits from each game I find funny or things I can riff on. so like a video on sonic 1 that'd last say 5 minutes, of rapidfire fun stuff.
I like fun and sonic-related trivia.

>>focused essays, like the history or sonic in cartoons with a rundown, or a look at say all the handheld games in a video or all the classic games with some trivia or something.
These would be good. I like analysis/essay/etc. videos.
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>>174580595

To be fair, Vector isn't portrayed as the big dumb guy in the games either. He's goofy, but he's the one solving shit, not Espio.
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>>174588205
Ironically, Espio is the muscle.
Charmy still a shit either way
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>tfw just realized Espio is short for Espionage
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>>174588069
Sonia?
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>>174588487
Well for Knuckles?
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>>174588581
Nikki
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>>174588581
Nipples.

Knickles?
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>>174588581
Mittens.
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>>174588386
That is beyond slow anon.
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>That kid who called Knuckles "Fists".
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>>174588707
>>174588713
>>174588823

I got something, thanks

Since Shadow's the edgehog that spawned a million OCs, I made the female Shadow more based off of OCs that were based from Rouge

I made the male Rouge more like the swave superspy time, that was one of the easier ones next to Knuckles
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Dun DUN duuuun Du-nana-dun DUN dun
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>>174584640
Some anon earlier said there was a furry girl in Spark. I refused to believe it but....Could this be her?
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>>174589448
dun dun dun dunnn doo do
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>>174589448
fun fact he says "I'm Sonic! Sonic the Hedgehog!" differently every time for those recaps
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>>174590534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DTu_OddI2M&spfreload=10
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A lot of us didn't know GHPAnon wanted a completely linear A-to-B experience with this museum. A lot of us thought it would be like Yooka-Laylee, where it was totally open to explore. That's why we chose Smooth & Silky.

That's as good a music theme as any, but to make this a bit clearer, I've put a new folder in Drive inside the music folder with examples of the earlier poll. Try to imagine each of them playing in a Sonic museum level with Eggman narrating over it, and tell me your thoughts.
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>>174590534
Because each recap introduction wasn't recycled.
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I want Amy to be gay for Blaze.
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>>174590938
Cute
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Freedom Planet
Spark the Electric Jester
Mighty Number 9
Indivisible
Bloodstained:Ritual of the Night
CrossCode

What do these games have in common?
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>>174591773
Oh! I know I know!

They're all on Steam! That was it right? Right??
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>>174591773
They all suck ass!
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>>174591773
Looks like that image is missing some Mikus.
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>>174591954
Last I checked Freedom Planet, and CrossCode were pretty good anon.

>>174591848
True but thats not the only thing they have in common.
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>>174592040
They're all kickstarted, but only one of them managed to shove Shovel Knight in there.
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>>174591773
All of them were inspired by other games.
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>>174592040
Oh...

Then...It's...That they all support controllers!
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>>174591773
Kickstarted
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>>174591773
They were all successful with people feeling that more could've been done to improve upon the game themselves with the money raised.
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Cute boy hedgies
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>>174592619
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>>174592619
OH NO! AMY!
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https://rule34.paheal.net/image/2140970/2140970%20-%20Princess_Elise%20Sonic_Team%20pallidsfm%20webm.webm
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>>174592941
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>>174592941
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>>174592941
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>>174592941
I-is that Sonic's dick?!
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>>174592941
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>>174592941
>2 seconds long
>no sound
It's shit.
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>mania should have been out by now


God is a lie.
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>>174593689
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>>174539691
get bent, cunt
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>>174595304
>14 hours later.
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>>174595553
Silver fans are pretty autistic
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>>174595553
>>174595586

Not even the guy who posted the picture, I'm just tired of characterfags and people trying to rile characterfags
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>>174595586
Literally any sonic fan of any degree is autistic in some way
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>>174595674
But Silverfags desperately try to defend a character that is unanimously agreed by 99% of the fanbase to be shitty.
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>>174595848
>Unanimously agreed by 99% of the fanbase
Show me the stats, then. I don't care what character it is, they all have awful fans
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>>174595553
This is a thread, not a chat.
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>>174595890
>they all have awful fans
But the character isn't awful with them.
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>>174595956
That's a matter of opinion at that point. Every character has a fucking defense force (Nicole, Silver, and Amy are especially prevalent here) and it does nothing but shit up an already cancerous general
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>>174596004
But people don't look at Nicole or Amy and go "Ugh!" like they do with Silver.
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>>174595890
>Falling for the bait
>>
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>>174596098
I want you to leave this general and come back when you asked your average Sonic fan if they like Silver. The answer is obvious.
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>>174596228
You're just as bad as silverfags, anon. Because you refuse to shut the fuck about a fictional character
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>>174596279
It's the Silverfags who are so protective over their Trunks ripoff. You say ANYTHING bad about Silver and they freak the fuck out.
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>>174596371
You're just as obnoxious going on about how he's apparently a shitty character
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>>174596418
I think you should remove the word "apparently" from your post.
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@174596371
Yawn.

So /sthg/, what Sonic characters would you say are underrated?
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>>174596497
Most either have a following of some sort or are just flat out bad and forgotten
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Which Sonic VA is your favorite?

Mine is Martin Burke
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Go to sleep, it's almost 4am, holy hell.
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>Debuted in THE worst game in the franchise.
>Never had good gameplay.
>His only major role outside of 06 was some forgettable handhelds that became shovelware in a month.
>Messed up both Blaze and Nega's origins.
>Is literally Trunks the Hedgehog.

Give me legit reasons why this character shouldn't join Might, Fang, etc in the scrapped brigade? The only good thing I can name about this character was his theme.
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>>174596640
west coast?
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>>174596735
Because unlike Mighty, Fang, and etc. Silver actually has fans. It's not hard to understand
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>>174596735
Go to bed, anon. You're bait is tiresome.
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New thread time isn't it
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>>174596767
Best coast.
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>>174596782
>Mighty and Fang don't have fans.

What are you smoking, anon?
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>>174596830
They probably, but Silver marginally has more, even if it's not on the same scale of other characters like shadow or sonic
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>>174596735

Because he's not literally barred from ever appearing beyond cameos that are more than pictures again. And since he's Sonic Team made, he never will be that barred.
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>>174596878
More people actually like Might and Fang, and they also don't hold the stigma Silver possesses.
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>>174596942
any proof to back up that first claim?
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>>174596975
Do you ever see people bash them like they do Silver? No.
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>>174596975
Any reason you're still responding to cheap bait?
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>>174597048
Do you think Silver is a good character?
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>>174597082
I like him, but I dont constantly post him
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>>174597082
I think he's alright. There's worse characters than Silver, but he's not in my top 5 either. When portrayed well, he can be pretty fun, tho.
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New thread
>>174597712
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>>174596640
8:20am here
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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